The Testimony of An Ex-Huslter | Interview With Illuminate
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this episode the testimony of an ex
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alright so that's out of the way I want
to bring on the guests I got a bunch of
stuff I'm gonna address here and I don't
know if I should wait to the end or do
it now or maybe we'll do it together
because I'm sure he could be he can give
some some
some godly advice on some of these
issues man so some stuff we've been
dealing with man through social media
and stuff like that so we're gonna get
into it so without further ado Nathan
illuminate what's happening buddy my
brother was going old man hey welcome to
the show brother thank you my brother
good to be here man yeah man I got I got
some topics I want to I want to touch on
we're gonna go into that a little bit
later but first let's hear just a little
bit about your story man I think it's
always awesome to speak on testimonies
because what God has done in the life of
us of you of me of people out there
who's been touched by the hand of God he
can also do that and in the life of
those listening so testimonies build
faith man let people know where you came
from it's people I guess struggling man
let him know where you came from man I
grew up in Richmond California in the
Bay Area I myself am a first generation
Christian to my family my parents you
know did the best they could you know
mom's was the waitress my dad was
actually the drummer for the band tower
if I were my father was a musician
pretty much his whole life since he was
12 years old he's playing professionally
but unfortunately man he ended up
getting hooked on heroin in that
industry man so mom's was a waitress who
ended up becoming an alcoholic and
getting on meth Pop's was a heroin
addict so that was what I was born into
in Richmond and in a base so that they
split by the time I was three so you
know moving with moms from pillar to
post stand with partners stand with
friends I mean you know how that goes
bro when you living in a ghetto and
everybody has owned drugs and alcohol
you know and I just put this out here I
don't share too many people brothers
still live by the holy spirit today
because God set me free in this area but
as a child I was molested numerous times
by different people a God set me free
from that you know what I'm saying
because when you're in the dark places
that's the stuff that's happening behind
closed doors so why it's so important
that parents are to be present in their
child's life and know what their kids
are doing
and not just have him go off to the side
or just fleeting with whoever you can
because you don't know what's happened
to you babies yeah you know what I'm
saying
so anyway so getting past that by the
age of twelve I'm gang banging in the
streets you know I was never the the
hardest kill in my hood or nothing like
that but I was the only white one to
black so I had to prove myself you know
what I'm saying so there was that by the
time I was 18 my father overdosed on
heroin was found dead in the Vallejo in
room 111 had crushed my heart broke even
though I wasn't serving God and I was in
my sin man that's just like I felt like
a part of my soul left with my father's
man so the alcohol wasn't doing it no
more the trees wasn't doing it the women
wasn't doing it pills wasn't doing it my
aunt and my cousin were going to victory
outreach in Richmond and my they had
been praying for me and ministering to
me for the longest so I got a try
and on the railroad the Lord met me on
me like for real and God revealed
himself to me back to end like and I was
on fire for Christ for like six months
but I didn't surrender everything in my
heart to the Lord I still had my own
desires that I wanted to pursue and do
for me to have fame as I was already
wrapping back in the deck so I back slid
for nine and a half years in row in
those nine and a half years on me I
started getting weighty pretty gangsta
rap not just selling cocaine but
snorting cocaine selling meth using meth
I mean you know trees was elementary or
whatever you know what I mean but I
became an alcohol became a cocaine
addict dude I'm hop in 30 pills in a
weekend me and my homies sitting doing a
half ounce of Molly in a weekend you
know what I'm saying so like I was just
trying to numb the pain and I was trying
to self-medicate in any way that I could
grow I even became as low as pimping bro
had no morals at all in my life
so got approached August 19 2009 I was
in my prostitutes living room and I woke
up that morning on the night before bro
like I was
you know when you feel the presence of
evil how you really feel that there's a
demon present and you feel fear crawl up
your spine that's the feeling that I
felt and I knew because I was back
slidden to call on the name of Jesus so
I had a pistol I had a banger and
everything but I know you couldn't shoot
a demon bro
so I'm spooked you know what I mean I
start praying I put the blankets over my
head you know what I mean I'm not gonna
front but the next morning I wake up let
me I go look in the beer I wash my face
and I looking at mirror and I didn't
even recognize who I was I'm like being
who if I become God I don't even know
who I am anymore
I go out find a laptop up you know
scrolling on there whatever probably by
the hour later I come across this this
girl send me a message on facebook and
at that time I'm thinking yo this is
either I'm gonna be trying to set me up
or this could be some work cuz I was
family right so I look on her page you
know giving back how you could see the
YouTube videos on a myspace page you
didn't see what it was but you just seen
the YouTube video yeah so I click play
on the video and it ends up being a skit
about the Lord and it's my life house
everything and as I'm sitting there dude
like literally by the end of that skit
homie like I'm sitting back like this
I'm like up like this glued in
bawling-crying snot hanging from my nose
on me raise my hands to God was like
lord I can't do this no more without you
so that's when I reach a render my life
to Jesus Christ August 19 2009 and I
haven't looked back hey man
those are some times man when you feel
the presence of evil right do you still
feel that at times maybe when you go
into some of those uncharted territories
or you haven't felt you do have it it
doesn't happen I mean for me because I
was Bachelet nice to always wake up
couldn't move couldn't talk couldn't
breathe getting held down even solid
kind of gasp out Jesus you know what I'm
saying that you say oh I was Bachelet
but rose so now they be certain times
and it's not like we're not going to be
like trembling with fear or anything
like that but I can feel the presence of
the enemy homey and I'm like yo hey
everybody right now crap
yeah so we come together because I mean
even though yeah we're we're men we you
know we look like this and we're big of
a masculine homey this battle is oneness
Jeff we're out no doc hey let me go head
up
toe-to-toe with a demon brush it's not
gonna happen this happen here romance oh
yeah that does happen from time to time
in certain places but not everywhere so
was it like an instant transformation
did you get saved get fill with the holy
spirit and never look back
is that what happened or was it a
gradual thing that some things try to
pull y'all because you know there's like
a lot of people who kind of hit rock
bottom but didn't they struggle man to
get up and they fall back down or was it
inst him and he's like drop that old
that that old man behind and have never
been too solemn never look back Oh me
literally bro like on the real like the
Lord removed every single desire to
drink to smoke to snort to anything so
like okay some of I'm living with my
process right and all of that goes to
the point of where it grow like I
couldn't even post her up no more on me
I'm wondering like what am I gonna do I
called my partner who had gotten saved
four years prior right just instantly
remember this number he still had the
same number I talked to him and ball on
the phone for like a half hour and a
half right and then I'm like no what am
I gonna do I can't keep living this life
then I don't want to go back home to the
hood row where I'm a target to heck the
hoods you know what I mean because I was
a robber and we were active and
everything else so I was it's like man
what do I do
you know what I'm saying so I didn't
want to drink didn't once smoke couldn't
post her up but she still had regulars
so she was coming back to the crib
giving me the money and bro like I had
to put it in a dresser drawer and not
even have it on bro I got it I wanted no
part of that life I'm in where I'm like
maybe five days because I was there for
no longer than six more days bro but
like maybe the for the fifth day I'm at
the barber shop and I still had a pistol
on me right and I remember talking to my
partner the same enough that I call my a
brat like is it wrong if I'm strapped
and he's like well and I was it was it
was an honest question back man you know
what I mean well I mean I
that God can protect us bro so I
wouldn't you know do that my okay we'll
call him so from that day on I never
carried a gun again
you know what I'm saying so it was this
like it was I was innocent but I was
whatever there whatever God wanted only
like I was willing to get rid of
anything like I felt like I didn't even
look at a woman homey for like six to
eight months provoke like I was in the
honeymoon no but um yeah oh my stumbles
and falls out you know wait you know
thought like okay let me try you know
thinking I could drink again or let me
go you know what I mean like these
things happen right I haven't walked us
ass in free singing with angels everyday
life you know what I'm saying yeah like
now but God did remove every desire but
over the years on me if you're not
careful you know when you compromise a
little bit it'll take you further than
you want to go yeah and you know yeah
the biggest thing being that you know
sin separates us from God period bro you
know what I mean so if it's a little bit
of Stano it's a lot of sin it's gonna
separate you from the Lord Nick and
harden your heart man and it's in those
times when your heart is hardened that
you'll make the decisions that you'll be
like dang I can't believe I ever would
have done this again yeah I mean that's
the thing but like I got people you know
they laugh at me when I say it man but
I've been man I gave my life back to the
Lord I got saved in 1998 and I I fell
away for about two years and rededicated
in my life at my rock bottom
full of demons for going schizophrenic
talking the evil spirits all this kind
of stuff in September 7th of mm yeah my
life back to the Lord and was healed
delivered man set free went through
deliverance and all this stuff so I've
I've been doing this thing a while right
but I've noticed man Never Say Never
right I'll never do that again it's
almost like you tempt in the Lord
it's a lord but you probably rather say
Lord if your grace will sustain me help
me get through it if I'm tempted or I'll
be honest with the Lord and be honest
with brothers I am tempted but grace
helped me get through this because I've
seen mighty men of God fall man
I've seen mighty men of God who were
delivered from meth crack cocaine
alcohol addiction pornography all of the
the isms banned and they were in the
industry serving beautiful life
beautiful families man and one day
something happens man it's a delicate
faith that we have man it's this place
that we walk in and a high calling
such a beautiful mighty anointing but
it's delicate man it is delicately we
have to treat it we have to treat it
like the scripture says those who have a
delicate faith
it says weak in faith in the King James
people look at that that you know what
this is weakened faith but it's a
delicate faith because man we were
talking at a prayer meeting other day
was brother was talking about how it's
so easy for him to no matter how far
he's gone he can always pray in the Holy
Ghost is right there with him he could
feel the presence of God no matter
what's going on the strongest trials or
temptations or even his own personal sin
but I'm saying he's like so he's almost
like a license to sin I wait there's no
license of sin even though you feel like
you can sin and God still loves you he's
still there we carry an anointing that
we have to be protective of man because
even though you you may fall sometimes
man it takes a while to get back up are
you walking at the levels man you'll
fall and you'll fall into the depression
sometimes even as many tears even as
ministers of God that the pressure may
sit in for a few weeks a few weeks you
may not read about it may not want to
pray but you still looked at as a
minister and stuff that's why I just
want to encourage everybody out there
who are ministers who are struggling you
know I'm saying fighting the spiritual
battle be open be transparent before God
and before your brothers man because
we're here for one another to lift one
another when we fall in those areas men
don't always feel like you have to be
the one to bear someone's burden you
know what I mean because we all need to
be a bar our burdens bore with one
another
if you know what I mean because that one
thing that I've seen take people out
like none other is pride bro when I've
noticed it and I've seen it happen even
in my own life before when I've looked
down upon somebody for doing something
bro that's when I'll find myself one day
doing that same thing and then I'll
remember how I looked at that God
forgive me
there if not there there before your
grace go I you know what I mean because
we look at other people and we click the
point the finger at them but it's like
oh you're just one decision away from
doing something just as bad if not worse
decision man that's why like I move like
in a couple of different circles I've
studied on in a lot of circles man and I
have a lot of New Age of friends and and
stuff so they are on this enlightenment
movement like we can we can reach these
levels and we can almost become Jesus
and become Christ and it's it's almost a
perversion of Christ in us is the hope
of glory Christ out of us like the
manifestation of that glory that's the
truth but there's this perversion there
that we can walk in these high levels or
whatever and that's tempting to get
there because sometimes you you're on a
spiritual plane where you're so close to
God
stuffs happening left and right but the
whole thing about that is like you said
in an instant man one thing man you a
woman get too close to you yeah somebody
have have a bag somebody whatever the
case is every like you know saying the
enemy knows what it takes to draw each
one of us away he knows what it takes we
got it we got to be careful saying to
God it is a delicate faith and it's no
time to play like playtime is over the
anointing is dead the power of God is
for you to move in those levels with
without measure right now you don't have
to wait you have to go through testing
right now if you go and preach the
gospel pray for the sick miracles will
happen guaranteed but to walk in that
calling man it's delicate it's a highway
to holiness like the scripture says man
and that's what I pray that God will
keep us on that Highway to holiness and
not be on this ups and downs and falling
and we're down for a couple weeks and
we're so powerful for a
month or whatever the case is I know so
many people like that and I've been
there myself man but thank God you know
what I'm saying like the Lord wants us
even keel he wants a steady he doesn't
want us up and down and up and down I
remember a mentor in my life told me
that and when I look back and my younger
days are serving Christ if know you can
be emotional home before you learn to
get your motions in check and the Lord
doesn't want us to be so emotional man
you know whatever me really really fast
to me touch them some real quick a true
seeker
he was talking about holiness and
walking in these messes of anointing and
these high corners and that which is
amazing right but I'll never forget I
read a book by Rick Joyner called the
final quest him and everything it was
every believer needs to read that bro
bro and there was one part in there
speaking about the most beautiful thing
in heaven which was the cloak of
humility and but then it said that how
your armor the shiniest your armor will
ever be is when you were just in the
presence of Christ so just us I as
ministers when we're up there on the
platform on stage when we're in the
presence of Christ that's when our armor
will glean the brightest and if we're
not careful it'll blind us that's why we
got to put on that cloak of humility
yeah you know what I'm saying I found
that look that that's birth that is in
the prayer closet is in the sense of
chambers of the Lord you you never
graduate from that you never you never
graduate from turning off the TV and and
and opening up the scriptures and
spending time not just reading but
worship music getting in man talking to
God and then let him talk about to
listen and that's that's where we that's
where the powers burst well you know
what was the quote men who can kneel
before God can stand before men and I'm
telling you and it all measures up
whatever you want is burst on that
carpet telling you hands down
you never graduate from that and many
people who have pride come as quick
cometh before fall I'm tell man I'll
never
if I stay on that carpet and I and I and
I keep my flesh in check and and and and
late my desires before the Lord he man
he makes away every time amen every time
we're good we're good
he'll whisper in my ear he'll he'll open
up my heart speak things to me burdens
and strongholds and stuff sometimes you
can't find nobody to pray pray for you
you need a touch from God
instantly man you come off that that
carpet I've come off my personal prayer
carpet by myself vibrating or the Holy
Ghost for two-three days after that from
just an encounter with Jesus you know
that's what I set out guys
the secret place get him back intimacy
intimacy because I heard one preacher
said he said man you know people
nowadays well we'll three years four
thirty years of ministry when Jesus
prepared 30 years for three years you
know yeah so it does man and any of us
who walk with the Lord or have been in
any kind of ministerial experience man
bro you know that you can operate in it
without being but you can it's scary
yeah because you learn you'll ministry
in the flesh dude and if you're not in
the spirit homie right it it's dangerous
because you'll go further and further
and further from the heart of Christ one
thing the Lord showed me was that the
more you chased a ministry ladder the
further you get away from the Heart of
Jesus yeah but if you'll just stay
seeking after Christ the Lord will
promote you and insult you before
everybody man you don't have to do it
yeah you know me like it was get to know
him and make him known and that's all
yeah people are chasing a platform
people are chasing a microphone man and
I think we've all been here we've all
been there and but that's wholly not
where I said I would encourage people to
check out the ministry of Todd white and
he his his ministry is birthed in the
street going into Walmart you know I'm
saying praying for people seeing seeing
people saved and and just just out in
public they just they go out in public
and God touches people let that be your
middle nation because anybody an amazing
anybody can stand stand up with their
mic that was my biggest conviction back
in the day was I can I could preach up a
storm and talk about Jesus all I want
but coming to the stranger or like the
person taking my money at McDonald's
like can I tell that person cuz I can
see it in their eyes you know I'm saying
I can see that their their soul is
crying out for me to tell them about
Jesus man because I have what they're
looking for and you all do if you guys
are you guys are Christians if you guys
were born again and the Spirit of God is
living within you you have the answers
that they're looking for they're they're
searching far and wide some of them
don't know we get offended and try to go
back and forth with these people like
it's some type of fleshly intellectual
battle man it's a spiritual battle and
we have what they're looking for they
may not know it but we do so we have to
carry that with a high price yeah that's
that's also you say that so well because
that's one thing is that I remember I
remember coming out of McDonald's one
day and I remember seeing somebody and
how member like my heart wasn't pricked
for them and I remember walking back to
the car and being like Lord break my
heart for what breaks yours I've gotten
so busy in handling everything that now
I'm not stopping for the one yeah and
that's not me and you know well we need
to be honest with ourselves especially
as ministers man so many people try to
paint their lives like they got it all
together and everything is doing now
make no mistakes like we need to be
honest man with the people yo we don't
make the right decision every time only
we're not these we're not the more
Christ is only I fail him daily bro but
it's his Holy Spirit in us that makes us
want to do better that makes us want to
seek Him more that makes us gonna you
know what I mean answer the call to that
one because it's like bro we have the
key to eternal life
I remember one pastor tell me when
somebody said dude if you if you knew
somebody was in a forest and that whole
forest was on fire I wouldn't want it
that person yeah I was like well yeah
you think we're in this world and the
forest is on fire so we better tell
everybody that we can mhm you know what
I mean so you know yeah I just want to
encourage people man to pray for bonus
because man when you speak the Holy
Spirit will respond to that man I've
seen more miracles happen outside the
four walls and I've seen happen inside
the four walls that's real because it
wants to make himself known
he wants his glory to spill out into
these streets and not just you know for
people to elebrate it inside these four
walls man yeah that's so that's the I
mean that's the proving ground really
man that that's something that a lot of
people can't do but we're all called to
do it people like to say well you know
I'm not Evangelos I'm more of a teacher
no I'll do it out I've got friends who
tell me that all the time
you know that's you know that you know
that's your call you're more than you
supposed to go out there make disciples
of all nations man you're supposed to go
and that's that's what we're all called
to to go out there and tell the world
the gospel to go preach the gospel into
all nations man and that that is the
Great Commission and that's for that's
for believers to go and in it nobody's
exempt from that the scripture says to
do the work of the evangelists and to go
out there and do it wherever you go you
know what the jesus said he said pray
not for the world but for the ones that
you have given me out of the world and
then so you don't like we like so many
of us has to have this big picture of
these stages and record labels and
record deals and full-time ministry and
all this kind of stuff but we're you
know neglecting the family we're
neglecting the people at Walmart the
people at the bank whatever you ask god
man wake up and and and ask God to train
your ear to hear what the Spirit is
saying to the churches and I'm telling
you he loves people man and ask him I
mean just just it's just so simple man
just to walk in and the prophetic you
can walk into these these places in
public and just ask the Lord say Lord
how do you feel about that person what
would you say about that person
and he'll tell you he'll speak to you
because he loves them he loves people
and you know risk yeah
taking how you have to that's mighty
takes a yes ma'am that's right you're
not you're not gonna bat a thousand
anyways period so you're not you're not
even gonna hit the ball unless you swing
the bat basically and take some risks
man ask the Lord man like you know of
Lord I remember praying for it for the
gift of word of knowledge and I remember
you know being afraid at first to kind
of you know speak to people when I felt
it but then it's like when I started
speaking it and it was right on and it
was accurate it's like y'all or would
you answer my prayer but had I not have
taken some risks and went in okay this
sounds super end of record now you know
what I mean
it said that instead of person and
they're like oh my god how do you know
that I'm like man I don't know if God
knows it and he loves you he wants to
set you free you know what I mean
because the wants people to know him
more than you want them to know him you
know what I'm saying don't be afraid to
take risks me you don't have to have a
word for everybody you don't be one of
those weirdos you know what I'm saying
but like literally real talk man be like
hey Lord you know what I want to be your
hand and feet today God what do you feel
for this person yeah and the Lord will
say something because you know the Lord
wants them to know that they're loved
yeah you know what I'm saying this whole
thing is about love everything in this
is about love and he wants to be his
children to be restored to him say hello
mm yeah since I've given you the
Ministry of reconciliation reconciled us
a little back to the Father yes that's
our ministry reconciling them back and
and that's to through through the the
cross through Christ and uh that's how
that's all of our jobs so definitely
being encouraged in that man there was
an instance I wanted I wanted to kind of
touch about you you made a post about
some shoes that you that were given to
you it's God or whatever and it calls on
Instagram and on Facebook and I think
you got some messages and stuff
what would I happen with some some my
shoes that were given to you okay with
the weirdos I was just speaking about
displaying oh they're out there man no
way man brother
the homie have been listening with a
very easy as men and I got messages from
people telling me that what you call it
they know me you're not even how can you
wear those you're not even a real
Christian yeah and they're like those
Easy's are blasphemous I hate the
brother back I said hey man I said a
pair of shoes is blasphemous like
where's that in the scriptures you know
what I mean so I can understand where
they're coming from yeah I'm not gonna
just bash them like that yeah because I
remember it and I'll be honest and open
Z right now so there was a show that I
had dipped with the homies social club
and I've never seen a fur and rocking a
pair and I was back then I was more
religious back then this is a couple
years back and I was you know I wasn't
looking at Kanye like he was a lost soul
I was looking at Tanya's just being the
instrument being used by the enemy you
know what I'm saying I wasn't but then I
seen on this last tortoise Pablo tour I
seen a video where this dude is
basically spilling his heart and you see
that he's affected by this industry
homie and he starts basically speaking
the real about these companies and he's
this MEP trying to monopolize and take
over everything and brainwashing this
and that and I'm like yo man this dude
is hurt this too was hurt right now so
it changed my perception and my outlook
so I started praying for this brother so
when the brother asked me is like y'all
I didn't like the shoes or the the the
first ones that came out but I like the
newer ones that came out right so the
homie was like yo I wanted to bless you
like man for show so I would have done
if I would have been like nah I can't
receive that blessing because these
religious folks I would have done a
disservice and blocked another brothers
blessing then yeah we can't live our
life stripping off these religious folks
anyway and I was just talking to my boy
Brian Trejo on Saturday like a bro we
can't have anything bro
like people like wait we're just not
supposed to just have anything cool for
our family I like you I want you just
like dead in the dirt with - it's the
people are I in some it I didn't say the
word weirdos you said it and I got
Robert Moore here in the chat room just
Owen I'm a weirdo weirdo nation oh
that's kind of Robert Moore play any
song in the chat Rob he's definitely the
homey but uh yeah dude they're there
they're out there I've been there and
I've been closed to that as well I had
just this guy years ago man he was you
know we were doing street ministry and
putting videos up on YouTube and it
inspired him to go out here ESOP man I
love what you guys are doing I'm gonna
go out put the videos up man I love what
y'all doing you know we search in our
home for anything that doesn't exalt God
any secular music and burning that stuff
getting rid of it idols and stuff like
that man inequal crazy like any statues
of angels any pictures of Jesus like we
don't everything away all the nests
idolatry and you're like weird level of
holiness man that God may be called he
may be calling you - I can't lie and say
that he's not calling you to this but
that I had a brother who actually and
these that they're out there man they're
totally out and they're not just in a
Christian community let's get that
straight there's local it's a whole
nother a whole nother show but there's a
lot of churches that debt or like
incubators for these weirdos and they
kind of give them a platform and give
them a place totally a whole nother show
but it ties in but anyway this guy he he
wrote Lecrae a letter and says I love
what y'all are doing I love y'all's
ministry but why do you have to wear the
Houston hat
why can't you just wear a plain hat I'm
not against a hat you can wear that your
hat backward but long does it have to
have a basketball team logo on it and he
like sincerely got that Bennett paper
wrote this letter sealed it up put it in
the mail to him prayed over it Lord
tell him not to wear that hat you know
and all this stuff man and
it gets too weird levels man I got to a
place where I was contemplating wearing
scrubs like the level of holiness
oh really yeah man cuz out you know yeah
I wanted to just what I didn't want to
have anything I didn't wanna have you
know I don't want to have no no you
wanna go he was funny get the the canvas
cheeky probably because I was running
with the with the Hebrews allies there
for a while
so that would that way yeah wasn't too
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that opens up a lot of cans of worms and
I'm gonna go ahead and touch on this
because I took some notes today that I
wanted to kind of do some ranting on and
touching on but I'm gonna just tie you
to this part and I do say it isn't it it
is in the Christian world man there's a
lot of them their levels of holiness or
at these word levels you know gets you
nowhere like there's no such thing as
Christian rap there's no such thing it
can't rap rapping the gospel cannot
coexist you know light and darkness kind
of dwell together and like people are
really on a tip like they really believe
in their mind that gospel rap is demonic
or gospel rock or skillet you know all
these bands or whatever and people are
there this there's weirdos out there
trust me I've been in I've been into all
these movements I've been a part of all
these movements I know people who are in
every religion on the face of the planet
yeah I know people who are in it all and
in each and every one of them there are
crazy people they are crazy people we're
just lucky that our our faith doesn't
condone violence right we're lucky yeah
but the same spirits that are getting
people to do all kind of crazy stuff man
it's it's the same spirits out there
widget we're just lucky man that we
don't have a lot of violent movements
here that you know I'm saying there are
those violent movements who use the
Bible and used the Quran and all these
types of scenes and they do preach and
teach hatred off of it right so those
people are there too but I had this this
this lady I got I wrote a couple things
down this is recent stuff this label a
fan she would call in to the podcast and
just talk and it got weird cuz she was
like the only one calling in every week
so we take her call and stuff and and
she was really sharing all my music and
all that kind of stuff and sharing the
podcast yeah we got a supporter in a way
she wrote me this long message
professing her undying love to me and
she knows I'm married right and and then
she she has my phone number she got my
phone number off the internet and she
starts texting me and says that the
Illuminati and the Masons had a meeting
and told her that she was my queen that
we are to be together and my wife is not
really my wife and all this stuff and
she really believed that this was a
crazy person who needs mental health or
needs Jesus they you know needs
deliverance we say like that that was
just one case I had to try to cut this
lady off on every kind of tires I have
different ministers you know there are
people who were involved in ministry
their wives have secretly hit me up
professing their undying love to me it's
weird I'm happily married I've been
married since I was 17 years old I'm 33
years old man happily married praise God
he's on that Amen bro I get messages
some dude hits me up from time to time
on Facebook and tells me he's the
Archangel Michael and he wants to know
do I believe him
I said well show me a sign and you
showed me then I'll believe you
and you know you got to show me
apparition do something I just can't
take your word for it you know and yeah
there's another guy who hits me up and
he wants to he wants to meet through
portals in the spirit realm me and him
go travel through portals and and meet
and hang out me him and another guy
I'm like what it's not that's not
happening
this one lady hit me up said that she
was my mom from a past life and she's
just watching over me and I said okay I
said you know I don't really believe
that she's like I am you don't need to
make fun of me son I said I'm sorry mom
these people need Jesus man so so I'm at
the point I was like I'm tired of just
givin people half the truths man I'm
just trying to give them to the gospel
man give them what can save them what
can change them and what they need is
Jesus there's people who are you know
I'm not making fun of them them but they
need help man and they're in your
churches No they're in your churches
yeah yeah and their prophesy loving
people and praying over people and all
kind of stuff man
it let me let me let me let me add to
this big fast man any movement any kind
of movement there's always gonna be some
weird folks follow them with it and that
doesn't necessarily represent that move
yeah but when people want to be involved
in other people want to be included and
grow like man okay so I'll just keep it
a hundred Bethel right amazing ministry
up in Redding California I went there
myself it was blown away at just how
easy it was to hear and connect with the
Lord there broke yeah it was amazing but
then there are larger by scene the chick
grabbing the stakes dropping it like it
was hot yeah you know what I'm saying so
it's like people like I guess they call
them like the Shabbos I think he's like
the people there doing the whoa and
stuff like that right like me I'm like
yes we yeah but with in and in that you
know what I'm saying like bro every
movement is gonna have some people come
to it want to be a part of a book but
like yo real talk on me these people
like they need deliverance on me they
need mental help there's people that are
schizophrenic like they're real talk
they might need some medicine homey or
they need the Lord to deliver them from
this actually I know people that were
schizophrenic that were on a gang of
meds that God has delivered them and now
they're straight in pain you know what
I'm saying but like
it's not a joking we're not so you know
look at it like it's a game yeah but all
stall don't give that any attention
because the enemy always wants to cause
distraction so when it's the enemy homie
don't play no mind stay about your
father's business to keep moving be
careful out there man
these people they come up with all kind
of stuff and for bit for like baby
Christians to get caught up and with the
with these people it can lead you down a
crazy road man you start believing what
these these people are doing is saying
I'll put it this way man when I was
whenever I came in out of the occult
when I when I got born again in 2000 and
God came back into my life
rid me of demons this is what I did
short testimony I was so full of demons
here I was in and out of trances that it
was like I wasn't doing it myself like
I'd be watching TV and it would suck me
into the spirit realm and I'd see all
these spirits flying back and forth and
they're talking and I couldn't
understand them I come back in my body
open for breath crazy I'm crying I need
help and I had been filled with the Holy
Spirit two years prior to that so I knew
that there was a piece and I would put
on Benny Hinn I'll turn the TV on and
he'd be praying for people there falling
out in the glory of God falling back and
it's just peaceful look on these people
face and Iwate man we'd be smoking and
my brothers Weiss I may have turned it
out that's fake I'm like nah man it's
real man I used to be there I used to do
that man I used to I used to get in the
presence guy that's real y'all and I
just got to this weird place where I
called out to God and I got rid of all
my idols threw everything away and oh my
girl gave her an ultimatum said looking
either serve God with me or we get we
split up right and she was crying I
threw everything away man posters CDs
books idols all of it do it all in a
garbage bag
chunked everything we own man and you
know she said well how you know how can
i believe in jesus i don't believe in
jesus i said well if you can believe in
the goddess and the god of the moons and
the spirit entities and animals if you
could believe in that stuff you can
believe in jesus just give it a try and
if two weeks passed by and our life
isn't 100% better then we'll go back to
serving these other gods
to give it two weeks so she said okay we
prayed together man I was coughing up
blood everyday it was wild stuff and
hearing voices singing spirits and
shadows in my house and I opened up the
phone book and I called all the churches
I can find I saw I knew Assemblies of
God non-denominational those are the
churches you want right who believe in
you know I'm saying people going through
deliverance and I call and I left a
message on all the answer machines hi I
believe I have a demon I need prayer can
somebody help me I just called to him
all right the next day one pastor called
me back and I said hey I believe I'm
filled with demons and I need prayer can
you help me he said sure give me address
I'll come over the house the pastor came
to my house he prayed with me and my
girl and then he came to pick us up for
church after that Bible study Church and
I was feeling better I had given my life
back to God I was feeling better but I
was still in this weird haze man I would
go there I would feel like I was
dreaming the whole time and the Lord was
just it was just a long hard road man to
kind of get where I need it to be and so
he pick us up bring us to church all
that and then I moved away about three
weeks into that moved the way moved back
to Alabama so just was in Louisiana
moved to Alabama a couple months ago Bob
we go back to visit family we go to
visit that church they have a saying hey
brother Derek's here everybody you know
he he came to the Lord tell your story
help me stand up they clapping all that
said back now it was a charismatic
church they'll you know go around to
church seven times and shout and Jericho
and her dancing and tambourines regular
Pentecostal church they are they're
weirdos they were totally weird of the
pastor's the widow children I'm sorry
but it was a weird place but most of
them are it didn't seem nothing
different about a year went by and we
went back to visit family we wanted to
go back to the church I go to the church
to see what time they oh they open for
service and all the numbers were and
Tom's were scratched off to the glass
they sprayed you could see the traces
where they scratched it off and then
they had all the windows were had on
aluminum fall over all the windows so
this is weird and I said certain had a
sign on the door service by invite only
oh this is weird
let me try to call them so we go home
getting a phone book you know I'm trying
to find the church's number they won't
answer at the church so I call people
with the same last name as the pastor
like I really wanted to go back right
and they're like hanging up on me don't
you ever call this number again we're
not affiliated hang it up hang it up was
a man what's going on
so we didn't get to go a year after that
my mom comes in town into Alabama visits
us for my daughter's birthday she said
did you hear about that church I used to
go to said now what happened she said it
was all over CNN CNN what happened the
the pastors were having sexual
intercourse with the children and they
were doing animal sacrifices at the
church I said what she said yeah
teachers sheriff's officers police
officers people up on like on like the
mayor's Council and stuff they were all
in on it they would bring their kids to
church and swap their kids out at a
church and they were killing animals and
cats and paints pentagrams and banging
them all over church it's a whole thing
going online was on CNN it was so weird
and and I read the story and they said
the way he would get people is he would
find people who were struggling with
drug addiction and he would go pick him
up and bring him to church and build
rapport with them and bring him back and
forth I'm like wow he was covered to
pick us up break it us to church if you
don't say anything like I was like man
sir - the appearance man it looked like
a regular church you don't know what's
going on behind closed doors man that's
why you got to be you got to be on your
game man
like we talked about this weird stuff
going on the church sometimes it starts
out with little stuff like that man just
little bitty stuff and then but I don't
know where that in my mind can't find
where that yeah right I don't know and
they were like bringing their kids and
they had rules like you could do
whatever you want just no bruises do not
bruise the children and Manny brah I
went to school with some of them kids
and stuff and I didn't even know not
like that what's going on man it's crazy
out here you got to be careful man you
got to be careful
there's no telling who you're dealing
with what you're dealing with you got to
be walking in the spirit of Christ to be
able to discern what's going on I was a
baby Christian he could have took
advantage of me did something like that
would happen I would've told I would
have the scream so they lucky I didn't
find I would have screamed on him like
you're in advance but I says well you
don't know who you're dealing with man
this stuff happens all the time this
isn't no one all the isolates isolated
incidents this stuff happens all the
time man people getting invested I mean
you hear it that people don't want to
deal with Christians because the
Catholic Church and what's going on with
that whole thing and they always use
that as the standard or something for
Christians that's nowhere around what
we're affiliated with and stuff man but
um just got to be careful out there
y'all it's deep man I made it out it's a
baby Christian man you only know what
you're talk you know what I mean
so you know if something doesn't feel
right search the Scriptures ask other
Christians man you know what I mean like
people yeah
yeah ask other people like the only the
only dumb question is a question on ass
now so what would you go say all Muslim
say well go ahead and jump into some of
these phone calls I got this call to
spend here since the beginning from
central California caller what's going
on we speaking with hey Christopher
Christopher what's happening man you got
here yeah yeah yeah now I'm just a
first-time listener first-time caller I
do follow a brother Nate on the Facebook
and you know I just had a quick question
um you know I was out there at the the
bench you guys had on Saturday and I
heard brother Brian saying something
about a five-fold and you know like I
could I could do this research myself
but I you know I was always going down
Facebook earlier I seen that there was
this uh this this feed
what is it called here again what we're
doing trace bug laughs yeah yeah this
little tuning in thing and then the
whole it's all get down there you guys
are doing right now I know I just
figured I'd tune in
- brother Nate or even possibly you if
you guys could just kind of explain to
me what a five-fold is or if you guys
know anything about that yeah totally
yeah I'll hold ministry um you could
find it in your Bible in Ephesians
chapter 4 starting in verse 11 but he
said he gave some to be apostles
prophets pastors teachers evangelists
right so those are the five offices so
the Apostles the builder the prophet is
the seer the pastors and teachers you
know obviously the pastor he Shepherds
the flock the teacher teaches the flock
and the Evangelist is a soul-winner
so that's why he's saying five fold but
they all work together they all work
together so basically what it's saying
is this man is it that you should be
going to a five-fold believing church
because it's a biblical church it's a
Bible based church they teach what the
word says so I mean it's it's pretty
simple man I don't think I mean there's
a lot more that we can get into but that
would take so much building on your
interpretation of it and just a
foundational level but just the
foundation of the church is the Apostles
and the prophets yeah like it says in
Ephesians 2:20 so you know nowadays the
pastor is the most celebrated but it's
actually the least spoken of in the
scriptures but I truly believe in the
fivefold ministry and the power of the
Holy Spirit man manifesting through the
fivefold ministry you want to go touch
on it Derek are they all work together
like you said and it's beautiful when
you see it definitely you know the way
that the church is set up now with one
man running the entire show or even
having deacons under them it's not
supposed to be like that we we you know
we do a lot of home meetings and stuff
and we can tell when we're sitting in a
room full of believers and
we all have our different offices and
I'm saying the profit can kind of see
where a service should go or where we
should go next and in here
you know I'm saying the song of the Lord
what what type of music we should play
you know I'm saying whatever it is and
then kind of move in that area that's
one thing like the profit is only a
neglected office and many of our
churches you know I'm saying like a lot
of you know you know Baptist
denominations don't even acknowledge
this stuff they think it's dead it died
with the Apostles but I believe it's
alive and well and God calls apostle to
apostles and he calls prophets not to
prophesy because you you may all
prophesy but a prophet is to restore the
foundations to say hey we were going
this way but we've kind of veered off a
little bit let's get back to where we
started let's get back on the goal so
all of these these offices are needed
for like a a living body right a living
and the Apostle in Barcelona prophet are
always to be hitched they should always
be in agreement the the prophet see sees
and submits that word city apostle and
see apostle job whether to accept that
work and lead in that manner or to
reject it but the apostle and a prophet
should be hitched together the apostle
is the one he's the builder man a lot of
times the Apostles the one that lays
lays on the hands and people will
receive the gifts to the Holy Spirit but
the Apostle and a prophet man think
about this if it says that they're the
foundation of the church and they are
the least spoken of or accepted today
you don't think Satan might have a
little hand in that I think he does yeah
because and yes fivefold is the proper
way a shirt should be set up in all five
offices should be working together in
harmony and it's a beautiful thing does
that help answer your question Chris
yeah yeah it does I'm over here with my
notebook in hand too right now so I'm
again it was a seasoned chapter he said
chapter four yeah Ephesians chapter four
speaks of the file called but if you
want to look at the foundation of the
church go to a thieves in Chapter two
so if each ins to when it comes to
chapter four
okay and there was a fossil the apostle
the prophet and over to other three
evangelist pastor and teacher
and you said a preacher the last teacher
teacher Oh teachers like a teacher okay
yeah these preachers in theirs teachers
okay okay so preaching is proclaiming
the Word of God teaching is explaining
the Word of God okay okay yeah yeah like
I like that okay yeah you know just a
quick question I have for you guys um
another thing is I could just get some
prayer for myself
and I'm trying to do a better job of
raising my son and I wanna you know I
just like been really like feeling that
I should be teaching them and raising
them in the right way and and they
exposing them to the truth and he's our
young he's a young child he's gonna be
turning eight so I'm you know I've been
kind of like weary on the things that I
do introduce him to as far as the truth
cuz uh you know some truths are just a
little bit too heavy just to tell him
right away but uh yes we could just get
some I could just get some player for
that you know that everything comes at
the right time and I know that I move
back I know that I move on God's time
mm-hmm you know maybe just just some
prayer pray for that
I'll pray and then we'll meet he that's
fine father I thank you for my brother
Chris God I thank you for him and his
family lord I thank you that you've
called him as a mighty man of God Lord
he wants to lead his son in the ways
that he should go
you said raise up a child in in the way
that they should go and when they're
older that's not the part but God I'm
asking yes to need my brother Chris in
the way that he should go God and that
facility just flow from the head down to
the feet God and and then down through
his son God I'll ask you to bless his
loins god bless his generations Lord his
family's lot I'm asking you Lord for
just a new revelation of who you are a
greater understanding of your grace and
of your love God
and your piece Lord that expands in all
areas of his life Lord give them a first
touch right now God let him know that
you love him right now god bless you
Jesus with your precious Holy Ghost Lord
stir him up fan the flame right now God
of what he's called to do
father God let it burn in his heart with
a passion and a zeal for you in Jesus my
son Jesus might in Jesus name Amen amen
awesome thanks for calling in man
much love brother I see you next year
Salaam Salaam brother thanks for my god
bless Lou a man we got another one from
Northwest Arkansas and then we'll go to
North Carolina I'm pretty shy know who
North Carolina Northwest Arkansas we got
a call on the line what's going on who
we speaker with well am I on Joe
Arkansas was happening whose figure with
what's illuminate we might recognize his
name they call me honey Hughes Thank You
800 fuses Northwest Arkansas how you
guys doing tonight I recognize the voice
was having a brother how are you man not
much just days also chilling out so just
saw yes yes tonight first time calling
I'll show longtime listeners of your
both love the music so awesome brother
man look what's the Lord doing in your
life right now hunter right right now
everything's we kind of don't study for
the most part about three four months
ago my fiance and I got a brand new
apartment because we had been house
hunting well apartment hunting I should
say because um the house we were living
in it was owned by my fiancé's ex
husband at the time she was supposed to
got in the house and divorce people
who's ever flies husband decided to
foreclose on the house so we had a very
much backup move in like two weeks
and so for the first couple months we
were staying at hotels and then we
my co-workers at work said they got
someone run out of the apartment come
over shelled application and we get the
place so we ran over like that day
everybody's got the apartment on the
spot two weeks later we started moving
in and we've been here about three four
months now in our brand-new apartment be
thankful for that journey man those
those are beautiful Tom's brother the
struggle is awesome he's so goodness
yeah I really tested the relation it's
really just a relationship between me
and my fiancee a lot of sleepless nights
because we also work overnights too and
so that the depth of the strain on the
relationship sometimes to conflict with
the job and stuff as we have some
coworkers are just devils members taking
over them so it's like gossiping and
just about erase you go man yeah hunter
quick question yeah what's up when is
your fiance gonna become your wife
brother you guys got plans on that you
guys have free premarital counseling not
counseling we're just um we're not
wanting to like we're not one to do like
a big old fantasy wedding or anything
just cause a money issue because of
where we work but we are one to
eventually one it should be like at the
westward dad we just want to surprise
someone they've taken with us to the
courthouse just pyramid to do it at the
courthouse is what the idea we're doing
I would say we're not that we don't have
a date set but which it cuz we're
driving we're trying to figure out how
exactly it works down here so but it's
really soon though I gear I promise you
that really really soon okay whether you
already know where I'm coming from as a
pastor brother you guys shouldn't be
shacking up brother without without you
know me make sure that you guys make
sure you guys make that happen okay make
that like a priority on the list
oh it's up there don't worry okay
alright so the question was asked I got
this one for illuminate what a question
I got is when it comes to the music that
object inspiration from in regards to a
Christian hip-hop
it's like I originally started with
Lecrae and all them guys but then I
start getting a juice - you eliminated
and seven and Pyrex while Joseph
standing swinging now before Malik
Iraq's I was able to relate to you and
seven and all them and get and all got
all you guys in Bryant rail more that I
could see look cray
because even though like I'm just a
middle-class white guy I didn't grow up
in the hood or anything I just felt like
I can relate to guys things like you
guys getting through the struggle with
it you guys are able to get out of it
and I feel like I go through my own
personal struggles like every day and
I'm always having to fight and so what
that ties into is a lot of I see a lot
people they dog on the former hustlers
that become the Christian hip-hop
evangelist saying like because they'll
still keep the appearance and they'll
still have the tattoos and all that
other past life and people are like they
shouldn't be doing that they shouldn't
have the the mean mug appearance still
they put it like because if there's a
say is there truly say they should be
testing all that aside what what do you
say to people who who tell who say stuff
like that to you
I actually I smile a lot more pictures
to be honest with you if you get around
me I'm pretty happy dude I got the joy
the Lord now you know something like
that but you never know what somebody's
uh yeah conviction is or you know
brokers like to be honest with you like
not where the seven he doesn't like
taking picking bro and like seven
doesn't like taking pictures so whenever
were torn are we doing what we're doing
I come on man let's hurry up and get
this over with so it's not something
that's like a joy to him you know what I
mean but I think that me personally well
I've got the joy of Jesus so I'm gonna
show it if I'm not in the smilin mood I
might not smile the most I might just
like every stuff just to look on my face
you know what I mean
I haven't smiled in every picture I
probably won't smile in every picture
but I think that it's wrong for anybody
to judge somebody for doing something
that they think they should do where
does this say
the Bible that it's unbiblical to not
smile you know what I'm saying
like that's just a you know a matter of
opinion bro but I would encourage
Christians to smile and show the joy of
Jesus because I don't think people will
love this Jesus that we speak up if we
look angry and upset all the time you
know what I mean
and I want to help ya I will add on to
that hunter oh I will say to you and to
many other young Christians out there
who are watching this or watching
illuminate myself 7 whoever they don't
fall for we have to look like them to
win them you know because I know because
you don't have a lot of tattoos you
don't have a lot of piercings and stuff
like that but you hang around people who
do so don't fall for the trick that if I
look like them then they'll listen to me
the truth is that if you have the Holy
Ghost
then they'll listen to you walk in the
power and the anointing so it's not what
we look like that wins people or lets us
to be accepted in circles or whatever if
you're doing hip-hop talent in it plus
anointing man talent plus anointing work
with that don't worry about getting all
the tattoos and and and and and feeling
like you know maybe one day you'll look
like this artists or you look like Sonny
frumpy OD and stuff like that I got
caught up on that
totally man years ago but that's that's
totally not the Lord man the Lord can
use you and will use you even greater
man if you're just authentic and just so
full of him and not have your mind see
I'm gonna tell you what that does it
actually puts strongholds in your mind
where you be going around fantasizing
about looking like something else or
when I'm able to get the tattoos or when
I'm able to do this and it kind of takes
you out of out of the present moment to
be in this now moment of God using what
you have and who you are now which is
the greatest moment of all is this now
moment that we have right now it's the
only moment we ever have and we'll never
get it back so don't and that's why
Christ said be anxious for nothing don't
be too far ahead and seeing weird
visions like that man be in the moment
be full of the Holy Ghost and you'll
have what a lot of people don't have and
you have
they're looking for a man I want to
bless you with that dude yeah and the
reason though my whole purpose of my
whole last album authenticity was to
promote authentically being yourself
just be you the best person you could
ever be is you because if you get around
a cat that was like a real G the worst
thing that somebody could never do that
never was is try to act like one cuz
they can see right through it so this
identically be you bro be be the person
that loves Jesus because even me that I
come from a rougher Street background
when I get around a Christian who is a
square but like they love the Lord and
they're unapologetically themself like
bro I love that even more than somebody
who comes from where I come from you
don't have bro you don't have to go
through the struggle to low Christ grow
just love Jesus and authentically be
yourself man yeah yeah I can understand
that because there were days like I used
to Biden in like 25 $30 shirts because
it was like a guy had this shirt from
the high tops of Morris the only time I
might and the only time I ever thought
about when I was just laying outside was
like are people noticing this shirt
doesn't make me look cool and I find
myself like it's like I don't have those
so shortly unfortunately a longing that
stole for me several months and back but
fortunately I fortunately I find myself
just being more comfortable it's a $5 $3
t-shirt from war more being just even
like this feels like it just feels like
this in myself you know yourself and the
only pair of pants I have the only pair
of pants I had I would say black would
be them tating will be the Redskins
again the only reason I got them because
the red and I love rocket Reggie that's
my color so also brother Rocket Man I
work with the elastic and they would not
be fitting me that's all I gotta say
about real quick sir Graham alright well
first off I just wanted that I wanted to
thank you both of you before I
contribute to my album I've been working
on I just wanted to just express that
and say thank you to the both of you for
contributing to that and
and number two Zeki it was if you don't
mind I do have a couple prayer requests
okay okay all right first off of course
I got me and my fiancee - our
relationship with cookie the girl
through Christ as we move farther along
as we stick our steps day by day and
hopefully even they'll get better more
as we say are those vowels which I
really look forward to doing that's
don't worry Lily that will happen number
two number two number two would be for
my music that God speaks through me that
the words that I'm writing on my paper
are not just my own but it's God
speaking through me on that and number
three three and well three and work out
of the same thing is I'm I'm currently
looking for a better employment right
now because as I said the environment in
my current work environment I healthy
one has gotten to the point where the
devil's been told suicidal thoughts in
my head cuz it's only because I'm close
to this a while back it's almost like
every night I just want to pull that
trigger and I'm taking all my willpower
not to half the time so it's like just
pray for me on that as well all right
well let's pray father God we just come
before you in Jesus name giving you
praise on up in glory Lord thanking you
God that you are just master of all god
and lord I thank you for hundred God
thank you for the love God that you have
for him God that you place within him
father thank you God for the passion and
love that he has for you got in for your
people father god I just pray for this
relationship you can say God I pray that
you would be the the right guy that
you'd be the foundation and they would
continue to build upon your truth God
that you would be the one that that
continues that to lead them closer
together father I pray God that their
wedding would be beautiful and it would
be soon father I also pray God that uh
that you would give him the words that
you want him to speak God that as he is
putting this news together God that he
would be glorifying you God that it
wouldn't just be him in speaking that it
be you speaking through him as your
vessel in your Oracle father and also
we just bind got every attack of the
enemy on his mind right now father God
we cast down the spirit of suicide God
any strongholds God anything causing
these thoughts right now father and we
pray that you would open up just just
open up a door for better employment God
but even more than that father got up
where that he would strengthen our
brother hunter through this right now
God that he would realize that he has
the victory in you to endure and
persevere through anything father God
that he never has to take his life God
that that is not a way out father God
but Lord you are strengthening him
through this struggle father God so let
him be focused upon you God let him be
focused upon your spirit God I pray that
he would be able to fulfill your holy
spirit God in these dark times that let
him know that you're with him father God
and then open up another door for
employment God and I bless him and his
future bride for father and all that
they do in Jesus name we pray amen amen
amen
very much free time I love you both god
bless brother we learned on their live
taste out yet for the kingdom peace
peace he's awesome man yeah he needs to
go ahead and release that album man
we dropped the collabo probably two
years ago now I'm ready to hear it ready
to promote it for him totally would you
say that your first time talking to him
yeah I never we only like tight to email
yeah but I hate foreign so that's what's
up man that's a good brother you had a
spirit of suicide man that's something
that we we we have dealt with and we're
dealing with and we look at Chris
Cornell from Soundgarden just passed
away
what was it Thursday Thursday morning
from suicide he hung yourself in is that
right hung yourself in his hotel room
the lead singer from Soundgarden and
Audioslave man one of the great voices
of our generation
one of the top probably top three in my
book man he's up he is up there and you
know depression spirit of depressions
we heard of suicide mixed with pain
pills and and crazy medication overdoing
it which I think I think our next caller
may be able to speak on that caller from
North Carolina who we speaking with on a
serious note man I'm killing speaking
about suicide and depressing man oh wow
yeah man it's real real man something
when when he was actually talking about
that I a situation that I had saw on
Facebook actually came to mind I don't
know if you remember recently uh this
teen couple they might have been from
Chicago or Detroit I can't remember but
they were really like popular on social
media and the girl killed herself and
then the boy followed up and killed
herself a few days later and it went
viral and people were just obsessed with
the fact that oh they were so in love
they both QT theirselves she killed
herself in hammers yeah I was like and I
was like wow I just thought for what it
was I was like wow that's deception of
the enemy you know that that's that's
the spirit just traveling through
Facebook and social media like wildfire
it's not even you being in interacting
with that spirit that spirit is
traveling via the wave of the Internet
you know what I'm saying I've never seen
a suicide travel via social media but
they glorified it and and I've noticed
lately in the news I've seen kids
killing it was at an alarming rate yeah
little children that's crazy
eight-year-olds hanging themselves but
will eat at school or their parents link
then and I really do feel as if there is
a strong depression and suicidal spirit
on our country right now and and it's
real I've been through it last year I
had maybe two or three times where I was
on the verge
I had a gun in my mouth last year I
tried to overdose last year I tried to
over the get take several pain pills and
go drive my car I wanted to die last
year you know and and not thinking that
uh I just wanted to escape right then I
was having the worst year of my life and
uh anybody who might be listening is
going through something like that
just hold on because I went from having
the worst year of my life to snap of a
finger having the best year my first gun
so so there's anybody out there
listening right now that might be
battling depression I'm telling you that
I can do it just you just hold on you
don't give up it's never worth giving up
you know I talked to a friend of mine
that I went to Iraq with out of killing
them stuff the other night and it
trained me it drained me emotionally and
spiritually and I started feeling down
the next day yeah I started I was like
oh no no no let me pray let me go pray
about this that's real you know
contagious you might not even know who
you're entertaining and what you're in
training man but it's a thing it's a
spirit thing that's nothing is is worth
taking your life over nothing especially
especially when ministers men people who
are like involved in busting up the
enemy's Kingdom like you have to be
table with other brothers man you have
to have somebody to talk to when you
have those crazy thoughts that you just
can't go public about you have to you
have to go to somebody and in private
man especially ministers because you
have a target on your back man you
praying for a dude or talking to
somebody out of killing themselves and
then you have an overwhelming sensation
to kill yourself the next day like
that's totally an attack of the enemy
that's how he works man and that's why
we all need one another our hierarchy
doesn't go like this it goes salaries we
all are accountable to one another each
each one of us I'm not greater than
anybody I'm
heed the people who just got born again
like I need them we need each other man
about amen amen
you got anything else she went uh yeah
you can't think you wait on that bro my
um my uncle yeah recently killed himself
my my dad's brother back before I was
born man he was so depressed man that he
went in a garage man at an old school
and let the exhaust so he was writing a
suicide note and I my dad told me this
so my dad broke down crying I never
forget it was like man you could tell
when he got towards the end it's why I
didn't got less legible and less legible
until you've seen just the scribble
across the paper man but you know
suicide is never the answer
because all it does is create more and
more pain yeah
you know what I mean like though my
whole family still hasn't healed from
that like his not everybody in my family
is a Christian so you know what I'm
saying like my grandparents my aunts and
uncles like there there's still a gaping
wound in their heart and soul from that
and yeah it definitely is as ministers
we have to be real we have to be I have
a support system we have to have
accountability to what might be able to
be honest and open and because dude
every day I would feel like a Christian
let alone minister you know what I'm
saying a certain day so brothers like me
you can miss me with all this right now
yeah and that old me wants to rise and
if I don't kill to this flesh bro and
and make it you know line up with the
spirit and the word of God bro then I
couldn't be doing you know dumb stuff
just like everybody out there is doing
it man we wake up every single day with
uh the choice are we gonna serve God or
serve self you know what I'm saying and
it's a conscious decision every day to
serve God and take every thought into
captivity man and cast it down yeah so
well any of anybody listening to this
dealing with a spirit of suicide we
pray for you right now and so father God
right now God we just come against the
spirit God we come against the saliva
the enemy God that that is gonna be the
answer to help anybody escape any
feeling that they're feeling God that is
alive from the pizza hell god that will
not solve anything that will only make
it worse father
so we bind and rebuke this demonic
spirit we cast it down
Oh God we just pray a fortress around
their minds and arts record now God that
they would only be able to hear your
truth God silence the voice of the enemy
and all of their lives God and show them
God who they are and you got on what
they have to live for God let hope arise
let joy arise die let them know that
they are loved so father God right now
God holy smear do what you do best sweep
through home sweep the largest we sweep
their minds and do some demolition work
and rebuild it the way he wanted done
father and Jesus name Amen angle and
it's also about hearing the voice of the
Lord and like understanding that when
Jesus says that my sheep know my voice
in a stranger's voice they will not
follow the stranger speaking so in those
times when you hear something like the
suicidal urges and you feel like go
ahead and do it man you've been wanting
to do it you should have been done this
you shouldn't you know you hear those
voices they speak like that
that is a perfect time to understand
what the enemy's voice sounds like hold
on
that's the enemy's voice you can learn
it rebuke it stand upon the Word of God
the promises of God and then when that
voice comes again in other situations
look at that website Custis fool out
whatever it is you hear that that voice
and you can learn it to discern it and
follow the voice our Father
versus the you know I'm saying the voice
of the flesh that wants to let man go
ahead and give in you know you're just a
human - you're just a human - let them
but I'm saying let them have a piece of
your your mind I get it all the time and
I I follow sometimes man I fall
sometimes I give my piece of my mind you
know so
brother the three that are talkin you
ain't the only brother way it's a little
brother whining all of us man and
everyone of us but you know what I want
to tell ya you guys friend something uh
your thing these are two genuine guys as
to where you might stumble across guys
who are not as genuine and I know so
many Christian hip-hop artists on a
personal level way beyond music I have
to acknowledge that there there there's
a lot of actors in this genre and act in
this culture but I just want your fans
to know as someone who knows both of you
fairly well that both of you are genuine
men and then genuinely have a heart out
to God and genuinely have a heart for
God's people
you're not just about making a dollar
you're not just about making getting
famous or having fans you're actually
genuine people that care and I
appreciate that I appreciate that
because last year when I was going
through my little thing I'm talking
about illuminate no I cut the luminate
out he refused to live because I like me
and I've got him I'm dropping I drop the
l-bomb and all that you don't saying he
was like no no no we thought we'd knock
who's gonna handle this like men of God
and he just was happy to be the next
person that contacted me when I was
already about to explode so he called
something that went even his fault
yeah wait he cares enough for me to not
trust me back out and and throw me away
you don't I'm saying though he's a
genuine got there for me you know I'm
saying and I just want y'all fans to
know that they're listening in that you
guys are genuine and I know both of you
on a very personal level not know music
level but on a personal level and I
appreciate you guys doing man yeah the
feeling's mutual
yeah yeah but you know I did have a
question man I could use some got it um
I know social media is a very powerful
tool and
and the crazy Christians on social media
you know the ones that don't have faith
that don't have profile pictures they
just have scripture like 13:7 a majestic
background as their pictures don't know
who this person is
so I'm talking about God on social media
that I don't talk about God who I used
to because even if I just said something
just simple like something simple that
they can find the argue that's not how
Jesus Jesus you know how God performs
miracles and they'll argue down so it's
like God you know and they seem to come
out of nowhere you get thirty friend
requests for me because you commented on
somebody else's post yeah and so I I
quit talking about God as much on social
media I went back to being more funny in
and uh joking even though I don't joke
really like crazy dirty nasty jokes
could I went some more reticular style
joking but since I've done that I've
gotten more people to reach out to me
and there I'm coming in despair reaching
out to me you didn't define Christ and
I've been able to lead more people to
Christ and stepping away from that I
don't know if you want to call it a
Facebook Christian community type deal
and and I just want to know you know cuz
sometimes about it with it sometimes
I'll post something about you know Jesus
I'm always gonna post something about
Jesus but sometimes I battle with him
I'm not talking about you there's
nothing but then it's like I'm also
wrestling with a lot had more people
reach out to me it seems like they feel
like I'm more know let me touch on
everybody fast when I first got saved I
had to have the Christian t-shirt I had
to wear the Christian had had to have
the Christian everything but now was to
the point o me we're a Christian is the
very core in essence of Who I am you
know what I mean so people are looking
for real people while the
come for genuine people they're not
looking for somebody who's gonna put up
37 scriptures a day and you know what
I'm saying just only just focus on that
like rope should I should you not put up
Scripture that's not what I'm saying at
all but I'm saying like be yourself be
the real you let your personality shine
through you know what I'm saying
don't just be holier than thou so you're
like literally your act like you're
unapproachable cuz people look like
regular people bro that aren't like that
they're not attracted to that brother
actually turned off by that beat a real
you bow that's true that's true and I'll
say this because you know I've struggled
with this this has had I've talked to
both of you guys about this that that's
turned me off when I try to start
posting Christian stuff and then they
they all come out the woodwork or it was
the enemy though the whole time because
like clockwork it would happen Manny and
it would put me in this weird little
place well I'm like you know what y'all
keep it y'all keep y'all's little
religion I don't want nothing to do with
it like it had me like that but where
I'm at now and the season that I'm in
and I think this is a safe place it's
like I'm done debating debating is over
we're in a season of declaration we just
declare the world God
we declare the truth of God and as the
Oracles of God and we're not about
Facebook debating and in that that leads
nowhere
declare the Word of God and that that's
it just share it we if you wanted to
debate you could have called me five
years ago when that the one that's all I
did was debate you lost your chance and
now we just we were moving in signs and
wonders were spreading the gospel that's
all that's about all this debating and
well will you show me no I'm not doing
it no more sorry we're declaring the
Word of God don't get into these
facebook debate exactly because it's
crazy I had a guys telling me yesterday
that Steve verdict is doesn't preach
from the Bible and I said I sees his
church every week the man doesn't not
preach from the Bible you know what I'm
saying and then they're telling me all
these horrible you know and I just got I
just said man you know what I'm just
gonna troll them and play with them a
little bit but I'm like oh come on and
that push you that lets you know like if
they can they'll come tomorrow and they
illuminate sales crack cocaine and if
that precising was that they would
affect you you could be like luminate
just saved 1,100 orphans they won't care
no they're gonna stick to their guns
that illuminate chill crack yeah you
can't stop for them people no you just
want negative energy but you'll never be
a that's it you'll never be able to
suffice that because they just want to
have some negative it's not you're
actually sweet you'll switch topics of
negativity for exactly one issue they
gonna have another one all but you did I
got guys who are friend me because I
used McDonald's as an example of while
ago brother you feed your child
McDonald's and they'll like unfriend me
and say I don't hear from the Lord
because we eat McDonald's every night I
had a biscuit the other day you know I'm
saying like that's how these people are
so we can't you can't get caught up on
all these people's tangents and stuff we
just out here to teach and declare and
to prophesy the truth to God over people
and if they want to deal with that
that's the spirit of debate and if I'll
let it happen only if they're doing it
now they're out there doing the work of
the ministry and doing a certain type of
way and it's working then we could talk
there are people that have yeah there
are people that are like [Â __Â ] that
are called to apologetics know some
people they do okay and they do it well
me personally I could do it a little bit
but I don't feel like that's my strong
point you know what I'm saying though I
will sharpen you know will sharpen each
other with the word but if you want to
get down and select just downright
debates until what
is gonna be pointless I'm gonna have to
let you do that on your own bro cuz
that's not profitable to me that's that
to me that that now has become
constructive yeah and I'm not gonna
participate nine point nine out of ten
it's non salvation issue there's nothing
to do with with salvation and people
being saved and dying in crisis
something it's strictly religious
opinion you know it and this is never
it's like it's a little just just little
contentious stuff like this like we got
a comment right now from Brendan
Schroeder and he's saying is to
illuminate he said luminate that water
bottle been empty for thirty minutes and
you sitting there still taking sips of
that water it be empty for thirty
minutes
like you said you take a swig of the
water but the water that I drink you
know nothing of my sister okay now I was
gonna say I love you I'm looking forward
to seeing you what this weekend man what
was week um yeah you know why track
Saturday we're going to that uh cave on
stage I don't know he's a Christian
comedian we've had tickets today so
we're gonna be there I'll be back late
at night but I'm still come through the
hotel but uh the second thing I wanted
to talk about I can write comedies
really well you know Sally I've got some
funny stuff cooking in my head and I'm
constantly being told
I've seen these some famous face with
people stealing my joke
and I'm just torn because it's like I
want to do comedy in a sense sometimes
but then I'm like the stuff that I I
know and that's really funny isn't
necessarily Christian so how do I go
about doing comedy but still being able
to bring glory to God you know you
understand what I'm saying you
understand yeah I'm not think I think
with that one bro that one is um
everybody comes down to a conviction
issue but if you want to do a photo Lord
you're gonna have to ask the Lord to
give you strategic ways to tie it back
into him because I do know this comic
guy up in a bay named Dennis Gaxiola and
he tells some funny stuff in it at the
hand like the man knows that efreet so
he brings it to an altar call you know
what I'm saying so that could be Gloria
God so so man just asked the Lord to
give you a strategy or to show you how
he wants you to use that gift for him ro
and allow him to birth that and you tied
in at the end man cuz you do have some
funny stuff brother like I'm saying like
all the a people all these people I see
doing stuff and somehow they blew up
viral and their quality sucks and it's
not even that funny some of them are
funny but in their millions of views I'm
like every time I see it I think of you
man that's the Lord dude that's the Lord
every time I see it I think of you I
don't think well hey let me try that I
think of Robert Moore every time I see
these videos get it crackin ya brother
Wayne tell me don't miss a caller you
miss you darling Hey look I'm gonna tell
you all of you following God luminar
you're doing a good job one thing I got
against you all the time y'all were
black how would you go where is it black
you and datin both of you all of you all
the time yeah hey you know what I almost
got you though almost cuz we used to do
this on the little podcast we did as I
was gonna
ahead of time its help we got a caller
from Shreveport Louisiana caller go
ahead yeah I didn't have it played
through while we're sitting here telling
ya
that's funny when that like we did that
one me Robert was doing our little
podcast that's funny because I'm
interacting with I'm to on the whole oh
wait um yeah yeah there's room for that
man there's room for that but it's all
about authenticity so don't be somebody
you're not if you're not funny don't be
funny
we're funny dudes you know we cut up all
the time we did a podcast where we were
just cutting up for two three hours
straight so totally totally it's when
people think we're so serious all the
time and it it kind of hurts the the
image of like I'm a holy man and I'm
always walking in the spirit and always
know we tell jokes we laugh we make fun
of one other lovingly like we have fun
man you know I'm saying do my pastor is
a hack like does actual stand-up comedy
yeah like he's hilarious out but he is
anointed man of God apostle you know
what I'm saying like whoa everything
that we do doesn't have to be this
sovereign divine move of the Lord you
know what I'm saying like well it's okay
to have a personality in a gift roto to
make people laugh that's a gift in
itself man because there's so many
things going on in this world homie like
well we need more laughs more stuff to
make his lab yeah
I'll smell Nelson laughter is a medicine
and why are you while we're on that you
know noticing God doing things with
secular rappers play okay 25,000 going
crazy yes what you won't break them down
into worship yeah you know and I've been
seeing that a lot of people have been
knocking it but I'm like yeah I realized
the gospel is being preached two lost
souls by the master yeah he's gonna find
a way man if the church is the church
then I'll do it he gonna he's gonna use
the rocks out there yeah rocks will cry
out you know all of creation man is
groaning and waiting for the
manifestation
the sons of God and so if we don't do it
he'll find somebody or something that
will hear you he'll do it but yeah
that's a blessing that chance is doing
that that's awesome man
and even some of the celebrities coming
out like I wanted to do it just a whole
thing on like all the celebrities who
were born again and all the you know
like Alice Cooper Dave Mustaine Dave
Mustaine from Megadeth like man all of
these people I lit up Brian had was from
corn
Shelby fill these so many people man so
so many people in that line of work who
are Christians you don't see a lot of
Christian actors athletes there you go
the athletes
yep yes mm-hmm
all right Robert we got one more call
brother thanks for calling in and we
will let you soon brother here hey man
we got another call from California
caller from California who we speaking
with yo hurry up take me on say what's
happening man welcome to the show
breathe was good was good let's go all
them ladies - my big brother man and uh
ah - me down for a cool little mini so
tonight I had a question man I had a
question I was just kids and it's open
for you know it's over for all course I
was curious to know like as far as you
like when you first became saved in your
walk where like did you ever go through
like a series of like spiritual
oppression cuz I notice for myself of my
walk like I was I got saved at 16 but I
recall I was having a conversation about
that before where I was like you know
you can get saved and still not
necessarily not award and still be
walking lost you know and so now that I
feel like God has been touching my heart
within the last couple of years and I'm
wanting to give more serious I've
noticed certain polls on my myself
mentally physically any respira slinger
like just
desires are closer to God I feel
spiritually oppressed as if like my old
identity is trying to remind me of what
I was versus why I am now and so did you
ever go through seasons of dealing with
stuff like that
well when I when I came to Christ man
like by the grace of God like I was able
to jump straight into community and that
really helped me out a lot about being
surrounded by so we're you know when
when I was might have had these thoughts
or whatever like they would establish me
and my identity in Christ Rho I mean
yeah this flesh will never see heaven so
we're gonna battle this flesh till the
day that we die bro literally our spirit
as always was for the heaven bro this
flesh will never see heaven dude so it's
always gonna have to be something that
we are at war in it's contrary to the
spirit and then there's different
atmospheres you saying like just like
how when Saul got in the atmosphere of
the prophets he sort of prophesying well
if there's other atmospheres that are
ungodly then that means that there's
other you know dark spirits that are
more welcome there then you know have
more Nexus the fiery darts at us or
oppress us or you know so you know it's
about creating and cultivating a godly
lifestyle and you know devotional time
with Lord have an atmosphere filled with
the holy spirit you know can have some
worshipping if you live with somebody
who's not saved and they're still
allowing you know some darkness cracking
off rope you don't have to allow that in
your room you can have some worship
music playing and when you're gone
cultivate an atmosphere yeah yeah you
know what yeah so it would be you know
being proactive because it is a battle
we are in a war
we'll be proactive yeah remember that no
man so yeah I was definitely helpful man
I'm gonna definitely start playing more
Worster for sure that's actually what I
had told you
earlier this year one my grandma had
passed away man like I was in a season
where I was praying and I was playing
music mom's playing worship music and I
literally started praying and then all
that stuff started to happen and it did
shift the atmosphere and like he was
talking about so I think here that again
is kind of confirmation I need to go
back to that what's coming out the world
and I was I was involved in deep
witchcraft but anybody who was involved
in drugs and and stuff like that you're
totally involved in witchcraft but uh I
was coming out of that stuff yeah and
even walking as a Christian for four
weeks maybe even months I would get I
would have these weird schizophrenic
panic attacks like being in a crowd of
people and like have to leave out of
that crowd and go pray like I'd be I'd
have these weird double attacks where I
felt them wanting me back man and I just
real feel uncomfortable in my body and
I'd have to get down and put that
worship it's gone and open up the
scriptures start reading and praying to
have that spirulina much like saw when
the evil spirits were oppressing him and
it was it was the worship music of David
that caused them spirits to leave and so
we be going through trials and
tribulations and battles and you start
feeling weird like that and I tell I
felt like an antidote when I put that
worship music on get in the presence of
it and uh and watch God yeah yeah I'm
saying dude I'm saying do what he does
and watch some spirits leave dude and
that's that totally I had to do a lot
man but as you keep walking it kind of
gets easier and easier and the Lord
begins to shift your battles you kind of
conquer that that land of people you get
you kind of conquered those yet
Amalekites you you I'm saying you defeat
them and then the Lord's gonna show you
another hill another battle and another
victory and another place for you to
walk in and a place for you to dwell and
stand and set up a monument of
remembrance for the Lord and what he did
for you there and he brought you out of
that land it happens man and so they
it's changes so you know I'm saying the
devil's we you know we were fighting
with ten years ago we're not fighting
with them but one of the hard things is
and you may see this to illuminate
sometimes it's easier to forget what we
came from and we in the chest
and we're doing the church thing but we
forget about okay and that's what I do I
try to put myself in their shoes okay
when I was there what was going on okay
I was at a place where I needed to hear
this I needed the simplicity of the
gospel I didn't need a biblical
theologian I needed just slider love on
me I'd say hey God loves you man oh you
know you don't believe it but he loves
you so much like those little little
things dude and that's all it takes
sometimes man to open up that door you
know the speak the word against over
people speak the truth that's what
prophesying is is the clear Word of God
and that's the truth you don't that in
your ear God loves everybody everybody
rock in that man yeah and I think it's
interesting I feel like one of the key
things that you said that stuck out was
like declaring the Word of God over
people but also think to is also
important for me to start speaking the
Word of God over myself which is what
I've been hearing lately too because you
know friend of mine I've had just
recently reached out to me and I was
tell her how I would like struggle with
certain mental things deal with anxiety
and depression and uh she was just
sharing with me she's like yo like you
need to be nicer to yourself because
you're always listening to you and it's
like well I hear stuff like that I'm
like okay so stone in the spirit was
speaking I think you know Sam I got
usually was like trigger must be really
like that I'm like okay so like I was
supposed to hear that and so I have to
remind myself that I need to be nicer to
myself I can't really be kind to anybody
else unless I first learn how to love me
with the God with the love that God
given me you know and so I'm learning
that and um I think you just kind of
like reaffirmed it again like you know
just being able to declare the word all
those people declare the word even over
myself because facebones my hand right
here model word of god so ya know like
it's taking taking it back to the word I
think yeah what's up I got something I'm
gonna send you bro
I seen a matter of fact about after
March I've seen him do a series or a
little thing on self talk because he's
actually like a psychologist as well too
and we have self talk that are
on Nike that our own subconscious speaks
to our self bro so I have something and
there was like something I'd key thing
though I'll send it to you off I'll
email it to you broke so you can be
conscious and aware of this and start
you know training yourself you know to
not receive the negativity because bro
we just haven't said I don't know why we
do it bro but we just produce and
reproduce negativity so easily as humans
bro
so you know if you're conscious of it
and take this and do this it will help
you get better and yeah it does say that
you love your neighbor as yourself so if
you're not loving yourself right you
can't let your neighbor right okay my
neighbor he's a cool guy cool yeah man
that's that's real and it's a cure
because we lose on that we lose mango
lose that the retreat was seven
everybody um and I was asking them I was
like yo so what is it with depression
man because I feel like I struggle with
this he was like when you find yourself
in a month the motor depression you're
basically idolizing and worshipping
yourself and when he said that I didn't
totally understanding but he was like
think about it like this when you start
focusing on your own uncertainty and
your own problems above the goodness of
God you're basically worshiping yourself
because you're so focused on the
negative and your self focused on you
that you can you only have room enough
in your heart to let God in
and when he said that it kind of stuck
with me and in it didn't change the fact
that I was still struggling with it for
a ton of time but when I started to
think about that little nugget that he
gave to me it started making me start it
started making me think about it a
little bit more like okay well I need to
stop focusing on me so much I need to
focus on God and then I need to focus on
other people and then my needs will be
met in the mister oh it says it he will
keep him in perfect peace whose mind is
stayed on the Lord man you know what I
mean so like is there like he will grant
you perfect peace so but uh but I'll
email those to you bro and it'll sure
amen thanks for calling
yeah the scripture says that as a man
thinketh in his heart so shall he be
yeah that you we got one more we got
time for one more
we got a boy one more here we go
we call us in California who we speaking
with yo all right Callie representing
for the homie Nate so I'll guess at the
cut and I see my homie Nate you say give
me one second I'll be with y'all right
yeah whatever man who was figure with
going on man that's out yeah go yeah
yeah been I've been listening man and uh
you know it's really really great to see
my plight my GL here you know doing this
thing I kind of was husband as the call
to be honest so I know you guys are
talking on some serious subject but I
just personally want to let him know
that uh yeah you know we're all watching
and I'm saying and you know I'm
definitely proud of them you know every
move you've been making you know keeping
everything all right with you know what
then is going and I mean yeah I don't I
don't really have no question anything
like that you know okay for sure
oh okay young brother
straighten it up okay yeah now I know
who it is okay yeah man how are you
family major you know I'm good man
I'm Dean I'm saying like I said man I
was just really um I think your post and
I was like man let me listen to the Chi
nonsense movie at the office right now
so I was like yeah let's just tune in
you know but I please but I just really
good it's a really good it's a really
good feeling it's a really refreshing
feeling you don't deem able to watch you
in them the way you conduct yourself you
know I'm saying as well as you know you
know I keep my eye out on everything
that goes on man so you know you've been
very consistent man and you know just
the day I met you I know you and I knew
you were the real one and I'm saying but
the great part about it is that you know
that now you represent the real one you
know thumb up you me so uh so I don't
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I met my brother went to check it out
I was in the Victory Outreach men's home
when I met my brother
I was not brother I was freshly freshly
shaved bro like not even saved four or
five months probably when I met my
brother man so we go way way way back he
seen me when I was still extremely rough
around Aston a still coming off for your
brother but um hey bro we should uh
I'm in SoCal now where I just got
married oh yeah I live down here in
Oxnard we should leave you know with
that as well man do you know that's our
to me you know saying uh you know I'm
proud of you young man and you know and
everything that you've been throwing it
on so thank you for thank you do me a
favor bro
shoot me a message on facebook or
something but shoot me online bro so we
could stay in such well for real okay
good good here
okay that was young bro young pro pro
you know young pro okay one by young Pro
okay so he had a little like ID for the
G which is out died for the gospel so
him and his brother young pro he and his
brothers DJ tech they rock we would like
the lightest shade of brown and I'm
really really tough man but they're
they're Christian you feel what I'm
saying what's up brothers men great
brothers yeah I met him when I was super
just coming after freshly being a goon
so good that's awesome man dude thanks
for coming on the show brother
let's pray out one last time man
anything that you're feeling that it you
know if you know if there's anybody out
there who was in the same situation you
were they still struggling they making
excuses
say a prayer man well I just want to let
people know right now before we going
into prayer like wrote the song we
started four guys there to meet you
write with your at man um I used to have
to feel I used to feel like man I go to
church when I get when I get it together
yeah when I'm you know when I'm doing
better I feel like nah I don't work like
that man you come to Christ as you are
and he'll handle it from there
all you have to do with this come and he
handles the rest like for real so man
just father God we come before you in
Jesus name God and I just wait for
anybody listening to this God that is in
a place god of stuck feeling mundane
whether they don't know you or they do
know you they just feel like they're at
a standstill in life God and they can't
get past it father I pray right now God
that you would flood their heart with
hope and peace god I pray Lord God that
they would cry out to you God even
sanaya and father God and then you would
respond to them personally God that they
would feel your Holy Spirit manifest God
I pray for the baptism of the Holy
Spirit in their life God that you father
God with
Oh God these desires thought these
worldly desires got these these things
now they are contrary to your will for
their life God and let them know that
they are loved and all they have to do
God has come as they are and you'll
accept them father and then you'll start
to take the rest from there it is a
process the salvation is instant but
sanctification is gonna take us the rest
of our life so hopeful not to focus on
themselves so much stuff to focus on you
and allowing you to do the work in them
so if that's you guys right now you just
want to accept Christ repeat after me
say I come before you a sinner in need
it was Savior and Lord I need you I'm
open coming to my heart be Lord of my
life and reign in my mind my will my
emotions in my life in Jesus name Amen
amen and there it is near there's an if
you prayed that prayer make sure that
you contact one of us contact Nate yeah
personally contact me whatever it is let
us know man we'll put some material in
your hand we'll pray with you over the
phone talk with you about your new life
in Christ man and we'll do this thing
together Nate thanks so much for coming
on the show brother thank you it means a
lot
honor definitely gonna have you back on
with you know I'm saying we'll do some
roundtable discussion with some other
artists as well yeah and you're saying
well then really I get into a mess so
thanks for coming on I will speak with
you soon brother yes well your man God
best peace there you have it ladies and
gentlemen
Nate illuminate that's what's up
good brother Oh so that brings us to the
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