Witchcraft and The Occult Marz Formerly Of ICPs Dark Lotus

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uh guest here. Mars, what's going on,
brother? What's going on, my brother?
Man, welcome to the podcast, bro.
Thank you, sir. Thank you for having me.
Yeah, dude. I'm excited to talk to you.
Like I said, we got a chance to talk
before we went live and we do have
similar stories, man, as far as getting
into witchcraft and and and the occult
and things like that and understanding
some of the the spirits that kind of lie
in those realms and I listened to your
story on a couple different interviews,
Faygo Lovers, things like that. And
a lot of times whenever you were going
to talk about the spirit realm and you
just kind of gave an overview. Today, if
possible, man, I want to hear some of
those stories, dude, of some of those
times where you tapped into the other
side to let the people know that this
stuff is real and that it's not always
these angelic benevolent forces that are
back there. Sometimes they're cloaked in
white light, but they have ill
intentions towards you.
Um I want Dude, I definitely want to
hear some stories today and I think some
of our viewers do do as well. Everyone's
looking for truth. Everybody wants to
know who has the truth and I think in
this this arena, I think dealing with
Christ who is truth, man, I think we
have a responsibility to to to share
these stories and I'm excited, man.
Absolutely. I agree, you know, and and
and it's funny cuz coming up
the the one thing I thought was not the
truth
was the Bible.
You know, like the thing that I was
convinced, I would look through
everything. I would go to to the Satanic
Bible, to witchcraft, to to Santeria, to
all these things, to New Age mysticism,
to transcendental meditation
to acid, to mushrooms, to all these
things looking for truth and the irony
was I was running from the truth.
You know? There's a lot of trying to
matter from a different way. There's a
lot of people doing that. Um
there's so much backlash whenever we we
just mention the name of Jesus, right? I
kind of run in a lot of new age circles
and people who are into the occult. I
have a crazy eclectic fan base of people
of all faiths.
When I'm when I post certain scriptures
or say that Jesus is the only way or
salvation is found in no other name, you
know, these these things kind of draw an
offense, right?
Um but if we talk about Buddha and talk
about Muhammad and all these other
things, everybody's okay with it.
Krishna, things like that. But when we
talk about Jesus being the way and that
he he comes to bring life,
there there's contention there, man.
What do what do you think goes on with
that?
Well, I think it kind of speaks for
itself, you know, because those other
things are of the same spirit, which is
the spirit of the world. So, it doesn't
offend as much as you mention Jesus and
it's very polarizing, you know. I had
somebody I spoke to very recently. Um
there's a project we're trying to put
together of of kind of of my life or my
testimony and they wanted me to speak
with this director and when we spoke,
you know, he was like, "Yeah, you know,
I really love spiritual stuff and I
really love, you know, how spirits work
and stuff." And you know, I let him talk
and I said, "Yeah, I'm like, that's
great, but I'm like, let me let me just
be clear on this.
This is not a spiritual thing
like that. This is a specific Christ
transformation that happened. This
didn't happen because of some nameless
God,
nameless spirit.
Go ahead. I'm sorry. That was a
Recorded? Live?
That's all right. This this was this is
a specific story of how Christ changed
my life. Instantly when I said that, the
conversation changed.
You know, cuz it's polarizing and and I
think
I think it's for a lot of reasons. I
think
one, we're all deceived and cannot
accept the fact that God might actually
love us at that level.
As crazy as that sounds, you follow me?
Like so and then two,
we have to admit that we cannot save
ourselves and we have to admit that
there there might be things that are so
out of our reach
that they're not attainable to us unless
they're given to us, such as salvation,
such as revelation. You follow me? So,
so so if if it's all about my work,
actually today so I give I give you an
example. Today I spoke with a friend of
mine and we're talking about spiritual
stuff. He he he believes in, you know,
spirituality and and all that. So, as we
were talking,
the more I would gear it towards Jesus
or or put in scripture, I could tell he
was getting rubbed wrong because he
still wants to do it. You know, it's
it's the it's the the child What is What
is that
the prodigal son?
You know, we're all the prodigal, all of
us. And at some point, all of us have
ran away from God or still are running
away and saying, "You know what? No,
thanks. I want all the gifts. Thank, you
know, I appreciate life and sex and
drugs and all these things that I'm able
to experience here, but I don't want
you, Father.
I want to do this myself."
And I think all of us have to get to a
point then where we're in the pig pen
eating out of the pig's trough
Yeah.
and we finally say, "Hold up. Like maybe
maybe I do need my maker for this. Maybe
I don't know everything." Yeah.
You know, and we need to be humble like
that. And you know, I want to encourage
people That's all right. That's part of
the process, you know. We don't come to
God by getting it right. We come to God
by getting it wrong.
You know? Talk a little bit about your
pig pen, man, because you were at a at a
place whenever you found Christ that
many would think you don't need him.
You're like at the height of your your
your success, the height of your career.
You're on tour with Korn. You're you
know, you were affiliated with the
Insane Clown Posse and the group Dark
Lotus and you know, all of that stuff
going on, man. Talk a little bit about
where you came from for people who
don't, you know, who aren't familiar
with the Insane Clown Posse um
Dark Lotus and those guys.
All right. Um
you know, to to start with, I worked
very hard.
I was I was very driven. I worked very
hard. I had a lot of ambitions of
worldly success and as as I progressed
in the field of music, I started
attaining it. Probably the
And we've done shows. I I was actually
in a rock band before called Ministry.
that today, man. Bro, the irony of that,
you know, cuz it was everything except
Ministry. You know, and I I had been
doing hip hop. I met them in the studio.
I was dealing at the time. The the main
guy liked me. He asked me to
hook up with them. I ended up in
engineering for them. I ended up going
on tour with them.
Came off that tour. I continued to do my
own stuff. Got signed. Ended up with the
Insane Clown Posse.
Then got signed to a bigger label. They
bought out my contract. I was signed to
Geffen Interscope Records, which was
actually the singer from Korn. Actually,
it was an imprint that he had, but
the actual label was Geffen Interscope.
So, the infrastructure was them. Was it
Elementry that you were on? Elementry,
yeah. It was Elementry. Yeah, Orgy was
on there as well.
Yeah. Yeah. But you know, there was no
Elementry Records. There wasn't a It's
just a name. It's just a name, but all
the back end of the record I actually
interviewed Jay Gordon like 2 weeks ago
from Orgy. He was on the show.
Did he get saved or not? No, he didn't.
He will. In Jesus' Jesus' name. That's
right.
Um
you know, so
I hit this point and bro, I was involved
in some crazy things. I mean, I had I
was involved where I could have lost my
life
literally. I had some, you know, a
situation where I had done
such a wrong to somebody that they felt
the need to get somebody, a
professional, to get rid of me.
Glory to God. I was not saved at the
time. This certain professional happened
to be my friend.
If you could believe that. That's a
whole story. Like I can't get into names
and things like that or
you know, but that's a movie. Like
the way God was working out in
hindsight, looking back in my life
before I was saved is amazing, you know.
So, I had gotten into all these things
because when when we are the prodigal
son
and we are just
you know, there's no rules. For me,
there was no rules. Anything goes. It
was my will against all of y'all. So, if
I had met you, I would be cool with you
as long as I could use you to get up. If
I couldn't, well, then you ain't got no
business in my life.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? The same with
women or or anybody in the field. It was
all about me. It was self-centered,
self-focused. It was drugs, women,
you know, partying.
It was It was that gangster lifestyle,
gangster mentality.
And I had
many low points. Like I It took me a
while to learn, bro. I I learn I mean,
almost getting killed,
went back and did it again. And
actually, after that time,
I had came back to Chicago. At the time,
I was living in LA and got into a very
serious situation.
I came back to Chicago
and dig this, way before I was saved.
Um there was a
my mom's landlady
came up to me. She was a Christian. She
came up to me and she said,
"God is going to You're going to get
saved. You're going to be a Christian
and you're going to do Christian music.
And that is what you were made to do."
Bro, I thought she was crazy.
I I would avoid that woman like the
plague. Like every time I would go see
my mom, if I saw that lady, I would like
walk out the other door, you know, and
uh the irony
that she was right.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah. But during that time, I
actually dreamt about Jesus. So,
I had been involved in
I don't know how specific to get into
it, man. Just know that I was involved
in things that that people get killed
for.
You know? And um
I was about to do it again. So, now I'm
back in Chicago. I got out of that
situation and I was still heavily
involved in
you know, the gangster lifestyle.
And I was about to commit a similar sin
again. And I have this dream. And in my
dream,
I'm walking down the street and there's
a man walking with me to the left of me.
And in the middle of the street,
there's a tree growing and it has all
these different types of fruit on the
tree.
And we're walking and the man asked me,
he's like, "Why are you going to do that
again?"
And I'm like, "I don't know. I just am."
And he goes, "Okay, let's walk." And he
put his arm around me. And as we're
walking, I walk past the tree and I
grabbed one of the fruits off the tree
and bit it.
And I woke up.
And I knew it was Jesus.
But I still didn't
know Jesus. You know? Does that make
sense? I still didn't submit to Jesus.
And actually, that day, I went to debate
a friend of mine. I had a a friend of
mine when we were younger, we used to
rob places together. Bro, me and this
dude did some crazy things. I was
dealing, he was doing his own thing. And
and we would we would literally rob
places together. So, but he got saved.
But he got saved and then refused to
talk to me. He didn't He His church was
kind of real
exclusive.
Yeah.
You know? It was like, "We're saved.
You're all going to hell."
Yeah, yeah. You know? And I reached out
to him a couple times. He just was like,
"Nah, you're the devil. I'm not talking
to you." Well, the day after I had the
dream,
he he was like, "Come over." I just
wanted to debate him, you know? I just
wanted to tell him how Christianity was
wrong and and prove to him how how silly
he was.
I ended up going to his house and, you
know, we're going back and forth. He was
reading stuff out of the Bible. I was
just kind of criticizing it.
And I remembered the dream. And so, I'm
like, I I can't remember what he was
talking about, something about a dream.
And I'm like, "Yo, I had a dream last
night." And I tell him the dream. And
his wife tells me, "That tree is in the
book of Revelation."
It It has 12 fruits and the leaves are
for the healing of the nations. And I'm
like, "That's not in the Bible." And
she's like, "Yes, it is." And I looked
it up. And I was like,
"Okay, that's weird." You know? But I
still didn't believe.
You know? So, I left there and went on
for another
man, maybe three or four years
of witchcraft,
drug use, gangbanger lifestyle.
And and just everything, you know? What
What
the Right before I got saved, one of the
turning points in my life, uh I had a
crew called Black CEOs.
Black CEOs was
a couple different
crews from Chicago in the north side.
And some of the guys in these crews were
were gangbanging still, you know? So,
you could be a gang member or you could
be a gangbanger.
Someone could be a gang member, but
you're not on the block anymore. You're
not dealing. You're not out looking for
the opposition. You're
You might have got a little older.
You're chilling, but you're still a gang
member, right? Well, some of these dudes
were just were still active gangbangers.
And one of my boys, Rope, he got shot.
Actually, a
a bunch of dudes got shot, but Rope got
shot in the head and died.
And I remember
being at the hospital and and it was so
crazy, bro, because it was like the
connection that I had with him,
it was it was something from God, you
know? And so, when I find out found out
he got shot, we went to the hospital.
By by a miracle, I got to go see him cuz
there was hundreds of people there. And
there was people fighting outside. It
was It was literally like a movie. Like
I get there, there's
at least a hundred people out there.
And since, you know, gangs kind of some
gangs mix, some gangs don't. And then
you got dudes within those gangs that
might not like each other. So, it's a
very volatile situation. And there was a
couple fights there. And people are
drinking and smoking.
The security guy walks up to me and he's
like,
"Come on, you cuz they stopped letting
people up to see my my guy, you know?"
And he's like, "Come on, I'll" He
mistook me for someone. He's like, "Come
on, I'll let you up." And I'm in the
elevator. I know who he mistook me for.
And uh he's like, "Thanks for stopping
that fight."
And I'm like, "Oh, okay. I know why he's
letting me up." So, we go up there and I
see him and, you know, he the bullet was
still lodged in his head.
And he was unconscious and he was kind
of shaking.
I remember just like
something something changed.
You know? And I've I've had other people
in my life die, but something that day
changed.
And he lived for another two days and
and then passed away.
And that was the beginning
and maybe the next It took about a year
and I accepted Christ. Now, after Rope
he he passed away, we called him Rope
30. His name was Daniel.
Um
one of the most talented people I've
ever met in my life.
So much demonic stuff was happening at
my house after that. Like I would see
him.
Bro, I got witnesses. You could come in
my living room and we would be sitting
there and you would see someone walk by
in the kitchen. And I wouldn't tell that
to everybody. And people would be like,
"Yo, who Who else is here? Who's in your
kitchen?" I'm like, "Ain't nobody here,
man." Yeah.
Yeah. All All this weirdness started
happening.
One time we were in a
I had a studio in the bedroom. We're in
the studio and one of my guys came over
and I'm telling him, "Yo, so much crazy
stuff is happening. I got to figure out
like what's going on." You know? Cuz I
didn't know what it was. I couldn't
figure it out. But there was so much
activity happening around me and in my
house and in my dreams.
And
you know, so we stopped the session.
No, actually, we're in the room and the
computer in the kitchen turned on.
And just started playing music. And I
thought, I don't know, maybe there's a
timer on it or whatever. Like it didn't
feel weird. We walk into the other room
and we sit down and I turn the computer
off. I'm like, "This kind of stuff is
just happening nonstop."
Like something like the manifestations
are getting like more and more bold.
Mhm. You know? And
as I'm telling him that, bro,
my lyric book came flying out of the
other room and hit the the kitchen floor
and just kind of slid across the floor.
Wow.
And I was like, "Bro,
I told you." And it was actually that
guy that had told me about Jesus, you
know? And I mean and and going into
this, it was just like to that what led
to that point, you know, we opened
ourselves up to that
through witchcraft. Because I had been
doing spells. Because I had been going
to botanicas.
I don't know if you know what that is.
In Chicago, they're all over the place,
man. They're You could go there and you
could have cleansings. You could put
spells on people. You Whether they're
for people to fall in love with you or
for people to get hurt or whatever. You
know? So much of that was in my life.
It's like you open this doorway
to the other side. And from my
experience, the other side,
that when you enter that way, it's never
good.
It might It might lie to you and say,
"Oh, I'm going to do a cleansing. We're
going to do a cleansing and we're going
to invoke this spirit to help cleanse
you."
Yeah. It's never that. It's always a
trap. It's always a way to trap you
little by little. Like to get a hook in
you.
And now you got to do it again, right?
Oh, that cleansing wasn't good enough.
Now, we have to do it again. And then
you do it again. Oh, now you have to
offer something. Now you have to make a
altar to them. Now you have to leave
things at the altar, whether it's
alcohol or or chocolate or whatever it
may be.
Yeah. And slowly you get pulled in
to that world.
And it was during that season
that I came to Christ.
I saw that he his name actually
makes those things bow. My friend who
told me So, as I'm going through
this demonic activity and bro,
nightmares, terror. Did you have Did Did
Would you have um
like dreams about dying calling out to
Jesus and stuff like that when before
you died? was having dreams about Satan.
Yeah. I I saw him. Like I saw demons.
I would be awake, you know, and it
didn't only happen during you know
during during sleep time. The
manifestations happened while I was
awake also. And
the way that I would know like they were
coming
and I found out afterwards there was
people that I had beef with that had
whole altars set up to me with with
goats, you know, sacrificed goats and
and animals and
You still there? Yeah.
And monkeys, bro. You know, cuz in that
stuff
there's things where you could do you
could sacrifice Rottweilers, monkeys,
goats, chickens, pigeons, doves, you
know, depending on what level
you playing at.
And it it's like it it invokes a deeper
demon or a stronger demon. Mhm.
So
during that time was when a friend of
mine you know cuz I'm going back and
forth and uh
I was talking to a to to that guy that
saw what happened in my kitchen with the
notebook. He's the one that told me
about Jesus, you know. I'm like there's
got to be a stronger witchcraft. I got
to cuz it's always like pulling you in
deeper.
So you know, what's stronger than this?
What form of witchcraft or what spell,
you know, what what botanica, what what
person knows more than I do. Let me get
them and pay them to do something. And
he was the one that said, "Yeah, there's
someone above all of this. It's Jesus."
And I was like, "Man, shut up. Like I'm
talking about real stuff. Not about you
know, this
that all the time. I get that all the
time with people like, "No, not Jesus,
man. Something else." Like, "No, dude.
It's got to be something else."
Yeah. Yeah. And and one night
during that bro there was a course where
almost the whole year I didn't sleep
through the night. You know, there was
there was
stuff. And how it would start is
you're just chilling and you feel it.
Yeah.
Like so you just feel terror. You said
you said
And I would the way it would manifest
You said you said there was something
that would happen that that you would
know that they were coming that
something was about to happen.
Yeah. You feel it. I would have a
physical feeling. It felt like something
would press up against me. So it's like
on the right side of my it usually
happened on the right side of my body.
It's literally like something is
pressing against you. All the hairs on
my body would stand up and it's just
terror.
Like the feeling of
I've never had a panic attack, so I'm
not I'm not sure, but it would just be
this feeling of the most strongest fear
and hopelessness and terror and and
and just negativity.
You know, it would just manifest.
And I and then it would start. I would
start invoking stuff to battle it
verbally. You know, to bind it or to
cast it out, but in witchcraft terms.
Yeah. You know, and um
So this had been going on and on and on
and one night
I said in the name of Jesus. Like I just
came to kind of the end of myself and I
I was like, "In the name of Jesus, like
I command you to get out of here."
And all of a sudden there was peace.
Mhm.
And me being as as stupid as I was at
the time, I was like, "That's a
coincidence, you know. Couldn't have
been the name of Jesus. That had to have
been a coincidence." But then that
started
me investigating and me
going into that. And you know, in here
let me let me say this at the time
some of the stuff is so deep, bro. Like
I don't I don't know
you know, I'm trying to not sugarcoat it
but not not expose so much because
certain names that are involved. I want
to protect people. There was somebody
there was a person that I was with at
the time a female. She came from
generations of Santeria. You know, and
she when she was married I'm I'm sorry
when she was born they buried her.
Like so she was offered up
when she was born.
And
the manifestations that would come out
of her were like a whole
other level
than than that would come on me.
And the first time when I suggested to
her
let's go see
somebody you know and I didn't know
about pastors or priests. So we went to
go see a priest. Went to see a Catholic
priest.
And
I remember we were sitting there and you
know, we're just talking to him and I
was like, "Listen, like I don't know if
you believe in demons. Our house is
filled with demons. Our lives are filled
with demons. Our minds are filled with
demons. How do you stop this?"
And he took out a coin.
And he asked her to hold it.
So as she's holding it, we're sitting
and talking and she starts shaking and
just crying.
Right? And she's just like shaking and
crying. And he goes, "Can I have my coin
back from you?" And he took it back from
her and she stopped.
And he was like, "I'm going to come to
your guys' house and we're going to talk
there."
He he had came over and then he told us.
He said that that coin that he prayed
over it
for the last I don't know how many
years. And he said what he could see
is all of her stuff.
And that she had
bro she had levels of demonic you know,
there's there's two different there's a
couple different levels, but there's
demonic possession.
But then there's also demonic
oppression.
Where you might not be physically
possessed by a demonic spirit, but those
spirits are around around you and
they're on you and oppressing your life,
oppressing your emotions, your thoughts,
your feelings. You know, and generally
just causing hell in your life.
And so and and that was the that was the
beginning of the end of me being
involved in those things. But that was
just the beginning of the war Yeah. with
the demonic. It was like when I when I
declared my allegiance to Jesus then all
hell broke loose. I thought bro I
thought it was going to be all peace. I
was like, "All right, I did it. I accept
you, Jesus." And I meant it, you know.
And actually You know what? Whenever I
was coming out of that and and not to
quote this guy, but
somebody's lyrics Manson Marilyn Manson
lyrics. He had a song, "I want to live.
I want to love, but it's a long hard
road out of hell." It's like that's when
the journey began is when you coming out
and you start resisting them. My sister,
she's not a Christian, but she says that
she doesn't want to
rebuke them out of her life or
fight them because then they will start
showing themselves. Yeah. would rather
them just be there and not acknowledge
them, not try to fight them because she
would be scared to go down that route,
you know.
Yeah.
And you know, she's just not ready yet,
but she will be in Jesus name because
one day we real we realize what they
are. Mhm. You know, because in in a
in a sense we we look at them as friends
not realizing their full level of evil.
Yeah. You dig what I'm saying?
And how the Bible says even even Satan
manifests as an angel of light.
All of it you know, the the new age
stuff and and the
and the transcendental meditation stuff
where you're like seeking guides. Mhm.
Those guides don't you know, demons
don't come to you as demons. Exactly.
Generally.
For the most part. They came at me as
demons when I finally said no.
you pulled the mask off, yeah. Yeah.
When I was like, "Lord, I submit to you,
Lord Jesus. You are my God. You are my
savior. You are my healer. You are my
everything." Then the masks came off and
we're like, "Oh, really?"
And the and the battle began. Yeah.
Bro I had what during that time I
remember I had a dream and me and that
girl used to also have the same dreams.
We would have the same visions. We would
see the same things happening. And
one night I had this dream
that I saw this demon sitting on a
throne. I didn't see his face, but I saw
him from the chest down and I saw his
hands and they had these long nails and
they're bro was so evil looking. I
remember I was just staring at it and I
was trying to look up, but I couldn't
see his face.
And as I was sitting there
and when demons
would manifest in my dreams the way they
move was real weird. They would like go
they would like zip real fast. And so as
I'm looking at him from real far away,
it was like super quick. He zipped up
and he was holding a sign to my face and
the sign said "Some sins are
unforgivable." Mhm. Like give up.
"He will not forgive you." Mhm.
You know what I'm saying?
And I remember waking up and then I had
to go ask. Like I would I wonder if
that's true. I wonder if I'm too far
gone. But it's a lie. Yeah.
It's a lie. And
I'll tell you a a demonic thing that
manifested in in the
the journey of that and the conclusion
of it lasted about 2 years.
So
I during that time of all this demonic
activity I had a dream that
this demon came in to attack my girl.
And so and and this was a dream. I'm in
bed, but I'm waiting for him.
And so I'm pretending I'm sleeping and
this thing comes in and it hovers over
her and as it's hovering over her I grab
it by the neck. I stand up and I just
start smashing his head on this table in
my bedroom. And bro, I just like smashed
his head like till it was gone. And his
body just fell like out of my hand. And
I was like, "That's what you get. You
see that?" And I hear someone laughing
behind me.
And I turn around and I turn the light
on and it's saying
and he's pointing at me and he's
laughing and he grabbed my keys.
And he jumps out the window. And I run
to the window and I look and there was a
garden
where he ran and he ran away with my
keys.
Since from that dream
the the amount of demonic warfare, the
spiritual warfare
was so intense sometimes where I used to
pray Psalm 91
I don't even know how many times a day.
Yeah. You know, the the the the score
that I went through during that season
and now coming out of that season when
that was ending
I have a dream and I walk into a a club
and it's all demons. And they're all
about 10 ft tall and they're all like
super buff, like super like just monster
demons. And I walk in and I pull my
chest out and I'm not scared of them.
And I'm walking through the club and I
see a open table and I sit down at the
table and I'm just looking around and on
the table are my keys, bro.
The keys that he took over a year, year
and a half ago. I remember in my dream I
saw them and I was like, "My keys!" And
I snatched them and woke up.
And
I woke up and that was the beginning of
a whole new season.
The and the way that I fought was
different cuz the way that I used to
battle them is I would get I would get
angry and I would power up, my flesh
would power up, and I would pray. And
and sometimes I'd still do power up.
Cuz it's a fear that enters you.
You get what I'm saying? So when I would
pray, I would be binding in the name of
Jesus, I command you, and I would get
like real hype. And and so after the
dream where I snatched my keys
I was home once and I started feeling
it. I started feeling something coming.
And I started to power up and I was
like, "Hold up.
You can't be here. This is not my house.
This is the Lord's house.
I'm not mine.
I'm child of God. Like you can't even be
here." And I didn't even get to finish
that thought and that saying that and it
was gone. Mhm.
You know, so
that was you know, that year and a half
was my spiritual warfare training or
boot camp or
spiritual Navy SEAL training.
I didn't want it. Believe that. I didn't
want any of that, man. Like a lot of it
was horrific, but glory to God now
you know, now I've dealt with the
demonic after that in other people.
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask
you. Yeah, have you been used to help
other people come out of that stuff as
well and kind of go through those same
processes?
Yes, and I've
I think you're doing it right now, too.
I think you're doing it right now. I
just got a message from somebody who's
watching and they're just like, "Man,
this is the fellowship that I've been
looking for. This is what I need." So
what's deep about
simply speaking the truth into those
places of darkness, man?
When you speak truth, truth is light.
Those wicked spirits have to flee
whether we're talking about ungodly
beliefs, people think that they're not
good enough, people think that they
can't be forgiven. And then when you
speak the word of truth over them, those
spirits leave, man. So even in this I'm
I've got the Holy Spirit all over me
listening to your story, man. It's so
similar to mine. So it's definitely so
it's powerful, man. Keep going, dude.
Amen. And you know, can I ask something
to that to to being forgiven? Yeah.
Jesus said, "Now is the judgment of this
world."
He is the judgment of this world
and of the evil one.
So whoever is listening to this,
whatever you think is going on
you are forgiven in Christ.
Amen.
That's a fact. You just now have to
receive it. That debt is already paid.
Yeah.
Completely paid. You know, it's like
it's like owing on a house. And let's
say you owe $300,000 on a house and
someone paid, you know, a million
dollars on that house and your debt is
paid, but but you're still living like,
"Nah, I'm going to keep paying. I'm
going to keep living in bondage. I'm
going to keep living this way because
you don't realize it's paid. So whether
you accept it or not, it's paid. You are
forgiven in Jesus' name. The sooner you
accept it, the sooner then he could come
in and he can turn you into the person
that he originally intended you to be.
You know? Talk talk a little bit more
about
uh you know, helping the other people
get through through
you know, their situation with
deliverance and stuff as well.
I had a
I'll give you a specific one. My
step-sister. My mom remarried uh she
moved back to Croatia and as I was going
back there
I always preach. I can't help it. Like
it's part I think I think I think once
we're genuinely touched by Christ and
the Holy Spirit and once we genuinely
feel forgiveness, you want to share
that.
be hard-pressed to find someone that's
that's had a genuine experience and you
don't want the whole world to have that
because it's so beautiful. And And so I
would be going back there and I was
preaching to people and my my
step-sister she was involved in
some weird meditation stuff and some
yoga stuff and
and she started having demonic
oppression. She started not being able
to go outside. She started having panic
attacks and she couldn't work anymore.
Um she was on like four different types
of medication.
She lost a ton of weight and it was just
all this demonic stuff happening. So it
took 3 years. I would go back there
during the summers and preach to her.
The first year she's like, "I don't know
because, you know, I don't believe in
Jesus. It's just love. It's you know,
it's just kind of this abstract
thing."
The second year I would come and she was
like, "Well, I kind of believe but kind
of not." So the third year I was there,
was there for three or four weeks.
I kept preaching to her and
the day before I left
we were sitting in uh
my stepfather's living room and my
stepfather and my mother are outside and
I'm speaking to her and I'm like, "Look,
I'm going to be leaving tomorrow.
You think you're ready. I think you're
ready to accept Christ. You understand?
Like you see it. You like know you're a
sinner.
You know he's love. You know that he was
sinless. You know he died for your sins.
Why wouldn't you just accept him,
receive him?" And she's like, "I'm just
not sure if I'm ready." And I was like,
"You're ready.
Can we pray?" I'm like, "Will you pray
with me? If I If you pray what I'm
saying?" She's like, "Yeah." So I I went
to just whatever came to my mind as far
as a sinner's prayer, you know. Father,
thank you that you are love and you love
us all. Thank you, Jesus, that you died
on the cross for us.
You know, I know that I'm a sinner
sinner. Thank you for forgiveness. Would
you come into my heart? Would you Would
you be Lord of my life?" And as we're
praying this
you could tell something weird was
happening. Yeah. You know, that the
those that energy came around and I
could feel it.
So we get done with the prayer and I
look her in the eyes and I said I said,
"How do you feel?" And she's like,
"I don't know. I feel weird. Like
something feels weird in me." I said,
"Can I just pray for you?" And she's
like, "Yeah." So I got up and I put my
hand on her back and I just started
praying for her and she started
manifesting. So as she's sitting at the
living room table, bro, and it's so
funny. She's sitting at the living room
table. I could see her father and my
mother like outside working on the
garden. You know, it's a beautiful sunny
day
and she's like starts convulsing and
like
like making these weird noises, you
know?
And I kept praying and praying and I
stopped and I She's like, "What is this?
What Like what is this? What's going on?
Like what's happening to me?" You know?
And I stopped and I said I said, "What's
going on with you?" She's like,
"Something is saying that they're not
going to go."
And when she said that
bro, I felt like the Holy Spirit just
just draped me in this love and this
power that was so peaceful. And I
remember like I looked her right in the
eyes and I was like, "There is no
choice. It has to go. I'm going to pray
for you one more time." And that prayer
and you could feel it, you know, and
that as I'm praying I bound it, I
commanded it, I cast it into the abyss
and you could just feel it. It was just
gone. All of a sudden that that tension,
that anxiety, that
stuff that makes your hair stand up, it
was just like perfect peace in the room.
I sit down and I look at her and I look
in her eyes and I'm like, "What about
now?" And she's like, "It's gone."
So now from that day, the next day I had
left for back for the States.
Within 3 weeks she was off of all her
medication.
She's never gone back to any of the
medication and any of the psychotropic
medication.
Amen. Yeah. Right. She She since then
has been saved and baptized. She goes to
a little Baptist church out there and
that kind of started a whole bunch of
people out there from our families
getting saved including my own mom. My
mom got baptized earlier this year.
You know, so So those manifestations
still happen, but I'm surprised every
time. baptize
mom?
I didn't cuz I was here. She in Croatia,
she's actually here at the moment but
she normally lives there. Yeah, that's
what's up man. I got the chance to I got
the chance to baptize my mom when she
came into faith. It was amazing. Oh bro,
I would be balling.
Yeah, it was powerful man, powerful. Um
I want to I want to kind of go into a
little bit
we kind of mentioned it is that
they always require something, right?
These spirits, these demons, right? They
you know, they require something. Um and
what I've noticed is that once you get
in deeper and deeper and people want to
see something real. Like they're they're
like people are willing to do a lot of
stuff to have one of these beings
manifest to them, right? Whether it's
through the New Age or through Satanism.
I've called I've read the Satanic Bible
as well and went through just just being
lonely. Out of being lonely, I was
trying to summon demons, dog, to come
and and and fellowship with me. So
people are willing to do that, man. Um
talk a little bit about what they want
because I think
they always want something. You said you
know, people put coins down at the
altar, they build they wear necklace or
the beads or whatever the case is but
I've noticed they want a piece of your
mind.
Yeah.
They want in your mind. That's what they
want. And we talk about we look at
people like Aleister Crowley and seeing
what happened to them at the end of
their rope dealing with these beings and
these demons that would appear to them.
They end up being like a vegetable. They
end up being
schizophrenic which was happening to me
when I was dealing with these demons.
Talk a little bit about that, man. What
what happens in your in your mind? What
do they want to do? Cuz that's the
stronghold. The demonic strongholds in
the scriptures are thought forms and
patterns and that's how they get in,
that's how they stay there. So talk a
little bit about that.
Yeah, I I think ultimately
they want a body. They want a host body
to ultimately be able to then manifest
fully. Think they can share their
thoughts with you, they can influence
you but but ultimately they want a body
and I've
you know, in Santeria they call it being
mounted. So I've been to ceremonies
where there was four people there that
were mounted.
And
they don't look at it as it's
possession. Bro, they want it.
So it's like
you know, the the descent is so deep
that it's like a honor to be mounted by
this thing and to do whatever it takes.
So they'll mount you and then live
inside of you and kind of animate you
like you're a puppet you know, to do
whatever they want to do.
and stuff and they welcome it, yeah.
Yeah, and and and but ultimately
their desire is to destroy you. They
come to steal, kill and destroy. So it
doesn't matter in what ways they have to
lie to you and give you temporary
pleasure, whether that be sex or money
or power or fame, their ultimate goal is
to destroy you. They hate you.
That's the thing. I think if we were to
realize they they loathe us.
They they do not have sympathy for us.
They have murderous rage for us. So so
they will tolerate us for a time.
And then let's say if you befriend them.
Bro, I had
two days ago, a dude walked up to me and
started a conversation with him in the
alley.
I was listening to one of my songs on
the radio. What is that? I'm like, oh
this is what it is, I do Christian hip
hop. He's like, oh really? I'm like,
yeah, you know, he's like, wow with your
tattoos. I'm like, well I used to be
involved in other things, blah blah
blah. He's like, like what? Like demonic
stuff? I'm like, yeah. Bro, this dude
was dead serious. He's like, bro, teach
me how to summon demons. I want to be
rich. Yeah.
I was like, you fool.
But that's where we're at.
No doubt, yeah. Because we don't realize
what we're actually saying. We want some
temporary thing. The price that you pay
the pain, the the struggle and you know,
hopefully you you don't die from it.
Hopefully nobody that you care about
dies from it but a lot of times that can
be the outcome. You know? But so that's
what they want. When they come at you
and whether you're doing like things
that you think is is innocent like Ouija
boards or even astrology
or even like tarot card readings or all
those are small doors being opened.
Yeah.
A lot of times when I tell people like,
you know, astrology readings, I used to
do astrology readings. Mhm. I used to be
able to do them. Yeah. Or or any type of
reading, reading auras.
You know, reading in in where I'm from,
the Muslim side of my family are from
Bosnia.
They read coffee grounds.
So all of it is contacting unclean
spirits
for some type of information.
Divination, yeah.
Right, but but what we're hoping for is
information
about the future or information about
something that we can then use to come
up in life.
So so the guy that asked me if I would
tell him how to summon demons, he wanted
information
so he could be rich. So hey, you know
he didn't care what it would cost him.
And they will never
do stuff that doesn't cost you. Exactly.
cost you
so much.
You know?
Um but I think that's what they want.
They want to steal, kill and destroy and
they want a host body and they want to
use that host body to trap other people.
We're talking about like looking into
the New Age and stuff, man. Cuz I'm I'm
I'm like
like I came out of that stuff but I'm
I'm definitely responsible for
entertaining it. So I think I owe this
interview. You know what I'm saying? I
think I owe people the truth. Yeah.
telling you before like I would kind of
give them a piece of the truth. I
wouldn't give them all of the truth. And
so in those circles there are a lot of
people who are psychics and they they
can
channel and and get messages and things
like that. And it it helps a lot of
people. They they tell them future
stuff. They tell them what to do and
it's astrology and stuff. But when it
comes down to it like what does the
Bible say about it? And I've tried to
rationalize it myself like how can I
move in these circles and be rub
shoulders with these people and not
you know, try to find some type of
common ground. Like, hey I I consult the
spirit realm as well but I could consult
the Holy Spirit.
Um so I was reading in in Acts 16.
This is the whole thing we got to look
at. It talks about the lady that had the
spirit who can go around and tell the
future to people. Yeah.
And she would go around, she would make
money. She had guys who would go out and
book people and they would have sessions
and she would tell them their future and
do healings and cleansings and all that
all that kind of stuff. And she had it
in her mind this you can read this in
Acts chapter 16 that she wanted to go
out and follow the Apostle Paul and it
kind of make fun of him for a couple
days on his journey. She was following
behind him and hey, come see the man of
God, everyone. This is the guy who's And
and but she was telling the truth. She
was calling him a man of God. She was
saying, you know
so there there's a lot to to to be said
about that.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah,
yeah, there's definitely a lot of levels
to it but what I'm getting at is the
fact that
Paul got tired of it
turned around, rebuked this evil spirit
within her.
The evil spirit left and she couldn't
tell the future anymore. Yeah. She was
consulting with an evil spirit. He
rebuked the spirit in the name of Jesus,
the one that's higher than than them
all. And then they they grabbed him and
took him in jail because the guys
couldn't make money off of her anymore.
So they brought him before the judges
and said, hey this guy is affecting our
business. Let's take him to jail. Let's
take him to court. So that's the whole
thing as far as like everything is not
beautiful. Just because you can hear
voices or just because you can you can
trance out and receive messages.
This stuff is really popular right now
and it's getting getting even more
popular. So we have to be careful of
where these messages are coming from.
Just because it seems like it's saying
good information, right? It's telling us
good stuff about the future or about
family members,
it doesn't mean that it's always
something that is out to help you, you
know? It's an evil spirit in that case.
The spirit of divination it says it says
another word for it is a spirit of
python that was used there.
Uh-huh. And it would give you the same
um concept of what a python would do.
Wrap around you, get a little bit
tighter
a little bit tighter. As you move
around, you get a little bit tighter, a
little bit tighter until eventually you
can't breathe anymore and you find
yourself at rock bottom with these
entities who are a lot older than you, a
lot smarter than you and they've been
here for a very long time. So to think
that you can outsmart or outwit these
demonic entities and you can play with
them
you're sadly mistaken, man, you know.
On your own, on your own
through the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, on your own, what we would call a
neutron. You know, if you if you didn't
pick a side
you know, like here in gang banging, if
if you ain't on a side, you're called a
neutron.
In the spiritual world, if you don't
pick a side
you you will be destroyed. You would
there's no way you can on your own wits
or your own spiritual power or thinking
can out maneuver, outsmart demonic
spirits.
It's just not going to happen, you know?
And uh
and again, it's like what you We saying
what what the the spirit of python also
reminds me it's like
it it slowly grabs you
and as it's squeezing you a lot of times
you might not even notice and the truth
that it gives you that from my
experience the truth that I got from it
it was always useless truth. So they
would know something
which is like this information. So let
me give you an example.
From my experience this is how the
demonic works.
It tells you a lie.
It gives you a little bit of useless
truth and then it tells you a lie.
So that you're confused. It's the spirit
of Babylon. It's the spirit of
confusion. There is no clarity to it.
It's always like this weird out of focus
kind of stuff. You know, so let's say
one of the one of the times that I had a
a cleansing on me
you know, the lady's telling me about my
grandfather who was in the war. He was
in World War II and something that he
had said which was true.
But what she had told me before that and
after that was lies. But then when when
someone speaks that way you tend to then
not be able to discern what's true and
what's not. So then the lie starts
getting into you. And that's how slowly
you get those strongholds in your mind.
You start believing lies, you know, and
and again for the for the most part
demonic spirits don't come at us as
demons.
Exactly.
It comes kind of innocent and kind of
like what's the big deal? What's the big
deal if you go have a palm reading? I
mean what's the big deal if you do this?
But they use those little incidents to
put a hook in you
and pull you closer. Then it's like well
why don't you do another one? You should
do a bigger spell. You should you should
try Isn't this Isn't this fun? Like you
could get more power. Try it and they
put another hook in you.
Or I know another technique that is used
is
there's a system of magic that I had
learned about that's an old system of
Aztec magic and in this system you try
to catch a demon
in your
sleep state. So it's it's a this long
process of getting to a place where
first you you learn how to spot them.
You you try to learn how to have
uh conscious dreams, right? So it's a
process that you go through and then you
spot them. They kind of play hide and
seek with you and you're supposed to
battle them and capture them and then
you could
control them and send them out to do
things for you in the spiritual realm.
Now so the way that that is brought to
you is hey, don't you want a spiritual
slave? You could do these things and you
could capture this entity and entity
then will have to do things for you, go
fight battles for you, go do take care
of revenge for you, whatever it may be.
you and set it up ahead of you and all
that. Whatever it may be. Get that girl
for you, get you that record deal, you
know, whatever it may be. But the truth
is is he caught you.
You're the one that's caught.
But the deception is that you're the one
that was given power. The truth is you
were enslaved.
And any of the
any of the spiritual stuff that leaves
out Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit
leads to bondage. It leads to slavery.
Anything that deals with Jesus Christ
leads to freedom.
Freedom from oppression, freedom from
addiction, freedom from depression.
You know? That's See that's the whole
thing that's kind of offensive, man. Um
when the scripture says that
to the Jews
it's a it's a it's a it's a stumbling
block. It's hard for them to understand.
But for the Greeks and these are the
people who were into the philosophy, the
Greeks.
To the Greeks it's foolishness. To
you know, to teach that we are sinners
in need of a savior that we can by
studying and self-betterment and
enlightenment reach this level you know,
these levels of of Christ-hood.
Essentially there's that
vein as well that you can you can become
Christ and you don't need Christ but you
become Christ and that's more than
needing him, right? So there's that
notion as well. So the scriptures tell
us, you know, for those who are into the
philosophies that they are vain deceit
but it's foolishness. But the whole
thing about it this kingdom is is a
backward upside down kingdom. When this
We're not supposed to make this look
cool. We're not supposed to make this be
something that's flashy or something
that you want just by looking at it
because you you must become foolish. You
must become you must have the the true
death of the ego which is the death of
the flesh so that you die so that Christ
lives within you. That's the true
freedom. The true freedom and is what we
have to be careful is like I I kicked
the light enlightenment out the window
because you think you reach these levels
and you do. You reach these levels and
you and these experiences and you learn
more and more and more and you have a
little authority in in in those realms
but in an instant, man
in an instant any we all can mess up,
right? You can lose it all. So it's this
place of depravity
that we have to go back to the place
that we we
need God daily. Like I need God I have
to I have to be in this mindset that I
need God today more than I need him when
I was full of those demons. I need him
and I I do. If I don't I'll get
prideful. The scripture says pride comes
before a fall and we think we can do it
on our own. Well he's raised me up. I've
learned a lot. I can I can kind of do it
without God now. I've kind of learned
how to do it without him. And so that's
the place where we have to be is just
uh focused on Christ and what he did on
the cross that he has all authority, all
power and all of these demons all of
these principalities must bow to the
feet of King Jesus. They must.
Addictions, meth addictions, gang
affiliation, any contracts that you've
made in blood they're broken in Jesus
mighty name. He in an instant I'm
talking about in an instant he can open
or shut doors that no man can open.
Whether it's philosophies that you've
learned and there's no way you can
believe in Jesus or there's no way you
can believe in God in an instant he can
come in and change it, man. And I've had
it happen to me. I've been in places
where I've learned stuff and I've dealt
with the black Hebrew Israelites and
there was a lot of stuff I was learning
with them and I just accepted the fact
that man that's I'm probably not going
to be the same after this. There's no
way I can unlearn this stuff.
And I repented before some brothers and
got in prayer and sought the Lord with
tears and in an instant he took that
spirit off of me.
Even as a Christian, man, we're we're
influenced by these outside sources if
we're not obedient to the will of God
and and to to the will of Christ. It is
a daily thing. You may not be possessed
but the oppression sometimes is just as
worse.
Oh we're going to yeah, it's a battle.
It's it's a war. Yeah. We're in the war
and there might be times when it seems
like you're not but Exactly.
times when it flares up, you know, and
if we get too comfortable, if we're not
if we're not pushing in, if we're not
praying, if we're not studying
scripture, if we're not approaching this
with faith
those things will come back and attack.
But even that, you know, from my
experience God will use for our good.
Yeah, he always does. No doubt. Even
that he will use for our good and and
and what you mentioned about
you know, the Jews and the Greeks. So I
think those are ar- archetypes for
religion Yeah. and for philosophy,
right? So so we have the people that are
religious and it's like my works and I'm
going to be good and I look at what I've
done but it it's just trash at the end,
you know? Our our righteousness is as
dirty menstrual rags at God's feet. And
that's offensive to some people because
we're like no, I'm I'm pretty good. No,
we're not. Once the the more you know
God actually my experience is the more I
get to know God the opposite happens.
The more I see that I'm not good. The
more I have the courage and the honesty
to see
who I truly am.
How much how dirty I truly am. So the
spirit of religion makes us think no,
I'm fine. I just got to do these these,
you know, steps one, two, and three and
I'm I'm good. This the spirit of
philosophy the the kind of that
rebellious spirit of I don't even need
any of that. You fools, you know, my
intellect can do all this. My my you
know, we we don't need God for any of
this. There was no God and and both of
those
trains of thought
end up in destruction and end up being
burned up. And I think if any of us live
long enough and if any of us are
intellectually honest enough
to face these questions
it it they're exposed. And I think
that's that's a big thing for me as I
walk
you know, we have to be intellectually
honest. We have to be honest about who
we actually are.
So so
you know, all of us are wearing masks no
matter what level we're at.
Whether we're a non-believer, whether
you're a stripper, a gangbanger, or
whether you're a person that goes to
church, we're all wearing a mask.
And the closer we get to God
hopefully in in Jesus name those masks
start to come off and we and we stop
being these
false
creations
and we start embracing the true creation
of God of who he is intending for us to
be and not who we think we we create
ourselves to be.
Yeah.
So it's like two different people. You
know,
Yeah. Yeah. That persona that you
receive, man.
That's crazy in itself. That's That's
You're You're tapping into the spirit
realm when you receive these personas,
these images through the television or
these images through YouTube or music
videos or whatever. Uh whether it's a
style of clothing or whatever. You want
people to perceive you a certain type of
way.
Um narcissism. All of these things, man.
This We talk about a spiritual battle,
it's in all these even in these places.
I want people to look at me a certain
type of way. I want them to see me as
this. That gets into some some spiritism
as well, man.
Yeah. Yeah. Very real
real, man. Definitely.
Yeah. And you know, in Genesis God says,
"Let us create man in our own image."
And then
fast forward to the New Testament, it
says, "Jesus is the express image of
God."
Yeah. He is He says, "He is the He is
the image of the invisible God." Yeah.
Yeah. So, he's the true image. So, the
process started in Genesis.
And then, you know,
without getting into all the details,
the whole Bible is the process and it's
archetypes of what we are going through
as believers, but the end is Christ. And
so, through the whole Bible, we have
examples of
when we decide, "No, I'm going to make
myself
in the image that I choose." Yeah.
And that, I believe, is the thing that
burns.
You know, and I'll give you an example,
you know, of of going through the fire
and having things burn in this life.
You know, I did music for probably 15
years before I got saved. And I've
pulled all those albums off the
internet. And I worked hard. Like I
worked hard, bro. And And I just after I
got saved, and it took me a little while
walking with the Lord, and I just I was
still making money off those songs and
and that style of music. And one day I
was like, "I'm just I'm taking that
down." You know? And it it burned up.
That stuff got burned up. So, whoever
we're trying to create us to be, and
whether it is influenced, like you said,
through music, through media, through
our friends, through our culture,
whatever fake personas we're putting up,
one day will be pulled. There's a quote.
Uh it's something to the effect of
there's coming a midnight hour when
every mask will be stripped off of us,
and we will stand in front of the Lord
naked.
Now,
before
that would have been a horrible
thought to me.
Now, a thought.
You don't have to try to be something
you're not. To just be able to stand in
front of the Lord and be like, "Who am
I? Who do you intend for me to be?"
Amen.
You know? And And that's freedom. That's
freedom. And that is the exact opposite
of what we get when we're coming at this
through
witchcraft or or spiritism and
New Age mysticism. Yeah. The whole thing
with that is that there's like,
you know, we have an identity crisis.
And we don't know what you know, who we
are. And so, for me, even when you're
searching for who you truly are,
you can be so open to receiving who you
really are and you allow other people to
tell you who you are versus get
versus getting in the scriptures
and seeing who God says you are. More
than a conqueror. You are loved. You are
the righteousness of God created in
Christ Jesus to do good works. You are
the head and not the tail. You have, you
know,
good thoughts about you and just
understanding who
who you are in Christ, man. That's why
we have to get into those scriptures cuz
we'll start I'll start. I do it. I start
believing what people say about me,
whether it's negative stuff or or good
stuff. Oh, man, you're super dope. I get
Dude, I get calls from people all the
time. I put my number out there for fans
and, you know, they hit me up and like,
"Man, you're so You're so dope, man.
You're so enlightened." I got to say,
"Dude, I'm a I'm just a truck driver,
man. I'm a regular person, dude." And
like, it's it's it's only through
Christ. Like, this image that you have
of me, it's it's not true, right? You
know what I'm saying? Like I may I
probably seem more spiritual on those
records or on the internet than I am
sometimes in real life. So, it's not my
good works, man. This is something
And And And so, I'm blessed when people
want it. When they say, "Okay, how do I
get what you have?" And so, it's like,
you know, "What must I do to be saved?"
Okay, you want what I have?
To be quite honest with you, it's a
relationship with Jesus and the power of
the Holy Ghost, man. Like that's That's
all it is. And they say, "Okay, I want
it." All right. Well,
pray this prayer with me, man.
Understand what Christ did for you. And
those are the That makes everything that
I've done, man. It makes it all worth
it. And that's the stuff That's the
stuff on the back end. Um
We got We got a couple people on hold
who who have called in. So, just to let
everybody know, we're going to open up
the phone lines as well. So, you guys
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it'll put put you in queue. And if you
have a question for Mars or myself or if
you would like prayer, go ahead and give
us a call. So, I'm going to take this
first call. This one says it's from um
Knoxville, Tennessee.
Caller, you're on the air. What's going
on?
Hello.
Uh well, I didn't know what to do with
that fast.
Uh
Yeah. This is Matt. Um I just That's so
true what you were saying about um not
being able to unlearn
certain things that you have learned and
and the
the uh converting to Jesus and after
you've learned a a bunch of
spiritual practices and all kinds of
stuff like that. Mhm.
Um
Have you experienced that?
uh
Yeah. I had gotten into a lot of that.
Started out with like astrology and
things like that. And I'd been
had, you know,
taken psychedelics and
you know, had first-hand experiences
with that type of stuff like,
you know, thinking I was an alien and
all this stuff into this Pleiadian junk
and that stuff. And
just like you said, getting into
confusion, you know? It can ultimately
leave you confused and stuff.
Uh
You know, going to psychics and learning
other things. I think uh
And And you know, there's been times
where I would say like, you know, Jesus,
that can't be just the only answer. And
And leave you just confused and things
like that.
And Mars, I like your I love your music
and stuff like that. I've always been a
fan. So, yeah. Oh, thank you, my
brother.
Sorry. I'm a little nervous. I didn't
I'm a little nervous. I didn't know I
was going to be on here so fast. That's
pretty cool. All is well, man. We're
just hanging out, dude.
You got any questions or anything for
Mars?
Um
Well, do you think that uh
you know, once you learn certain aspects
of yourself that uh
uh
Like for me, I got into things Like you
think Like using crystals and stuff like
that is like a form of witchcraft or
like just carrying crystals on you and
stuff like that?
What was the question? What about the
crystals?
He was He was asking that, you know,
using crystals or carrying crystals and
stuff like that, is that witchcraft?
Just Just Just having crystals on you.
I think
I I wouldn't carry them. I used to I
used to do crystal stuff, too. And And
And you know, anything that has energies
around it,
um I would I would stay away from.
Let me Let me touch on a couple things
that you said. One, I want to encourage
you, my brother, because there's nothing
that you could have done
that would make God not love you. So,
one, I want to just encourage you that
you are loved. You are a child of God.
And the work he has started in you, he
will finish.
But you have to keep pushing into him.
And now,
Right.
the the the thing about
looking into the Pleiadians and and, you
know, all the different type of ways we
can get sidetracked, it
I equate all of that to Babylon. The
word Babylon means confusion by mixture.
So,
the enemy loves to confuse us by mixing
all these crazy things up. And we're,
you know, and and have us seeking them
out. And I think that's a natural part
of our growing in Christ. So, it's okay
that
you you used to look into that stuff.
And it's okay that you're seeking. You
know, the word says, "Ask, seek, knock."
Just keep going. Keep Keep pushing
towards Christ. And I want to share a
story with you
that I think happens to all of us as
Christians, whether we're young
Christians or whether we've been walking
with the Lord for a while. And the story
is
Right. It's It's about a war. It's about
World War II and about a certain battle
that happened. And I believe they made a
a movie or a book about it called The
Man That Never Lived. So, now watch.
Check this out. There was a German town,
and it was filled with with Nazis. And
they were entrenched in this town. And
the allies had to go through that town
to be and and take that town in order
for that to be a supply route
in order for them to win the war.
But at the ally meeting, they were like,
"How are we going to get this town?
They're so entrenched in there.
We're going to lose so many people.
There's no way to get in there." One of
the allies said, "What if we just get
the Germans to leave?"
And they were like, "Well, how do we do
that?" So, this is what they did.
They found a body of a young man, the
guy was in his early 20s, and they
dressed him up as an American
officer.
And on his body, they left all these
notes in code that and the and the in
the code of this of these notes that the
Germans had to decipher,
it would the it was a lie. And what it
said was that they were not going to
attack that town, but they were going to
go attack a different town called
Sardinia.
So, they left the body there for the
Germans to find them. The Germans found
the body. The Germans had to go through
all the deciphering and figuring out the
code. They deciphered the code. They got
up and left that town and went into a
different town.
The American allies just walked right
into that town. Now, I think on a
spiritual level, that happens to us all
the time. The the devil puts stuff in
front of us for us to decipher and for
us to have to go look into. And you
know, whether it's aliens or or
whatever, you know, whether it's
crystals or aliens or or uh
any type of things like that that we're
there to discover, and he makes us leave
where we were supposed to be.
Do you follow that? Guarding guarding
the land that we were supposed to guard.
Do you follow me on that, bro? And so,
you know, we're made out of dirt.
According to the Bible, the Lord made us
out of dirt.
We need to guard this land from the
enemy.
And a lot of times, the enemy can get us
away from guarding it by by giving us
things like that to decipher and to kind
of
pull us off on rabbit trails. And we
just got to remember we have to stand
here and guard. Do you follow me, my
brother? And guard our ground. And so,
the ground that you are, and I don't
know are you a believer?
Do you believe in Do you believe Jesus
is your savior?
Yes, I I believe I believe in Jesus. But
like you said, you know, with all the
distractions around, it it makes you
like say, "Oh, that can't You know, I
understand what you're saying." But you
you know, you start looking for other
things and you know, all this craziness
that's information that's out and
um
I just, you know, recently after I had
that experience, you know, I this the
spiritual world has opened up so much
for us. It's just you know, it's almost
normal, you know, to have these crazy
you know, I was having demonic
nightmares and but I also had good
experiences at the same time. So, you
know, it made it
it made it like that where I was getting
into like
stuff with fairies and stuff. I actually
have real experiences with
you know, that realm of fairies and all
that type of stuff. I realized it wasn't
aliens. I was completely wrong.
You know, yeah, you know, it's some
fairy type stuff. I don't know if you
know anything about that. There's so
much I could talk about. I know we don't
you don't have all the time, but you
know, I recently got numbers everywhere
I go. The specific number always near is
144. You can ask anybody around, you
know. I know that number's in the Bible.
And I just I can't figure it out. Like
it follows me everywhere, these numbers
and these
all these signs and I was
it's just
it's just really crazy. I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, I I know, bro.
I've gone through the same thing. My
number was 111. And you know, I've gone
through the same thing with aliens and
stuff, and they're all distractions.
So, whatever Think of it like this.
Whatever truth you think those
experiences will give you,
it is nothing compared to the truth that
is in Christ.
that's that's the bottom line right
there.
Yeah, it's it's it's nothing. And
Yeah.
Yeah, and they will always give you a
little bit of good. They'll always give
you a little bit of a positive
experience, but that will never last.
The the the the negative experiences
will get more and more and more and
more, and those will build. And so, so
what I would suggest to you, my brother,
is
I would push into Christ. I would put
all of that to the side
and look into Christ. See who he is, cuz
I know in the beginning for me,
I was still looking at all that stuff. I
was still looking at weird
manifestations and trying to try and
understand them. And and it was just a
distraction. All those things lead to
nothing. You know, if if we follow lies,
the lie always changes.
So, if we're following those type of
things, it always changes. Like you
you know, let's say you're looking at
aliens and all of a sudden the aliens
turn into
oh, these aliens said this and I got to
go this way and then oh, that led to the
fairies and that led me to to crystals
and that lead it always leads to another
thing. It never leads to the truth.
It always leads to another deception.
You know what I mean? And then
Christ is the opposite. Christ always
leads to truth. If we look to him and we
go towards him, it will lead to clarity.
It will lead to peace.
It will lead to self-control.
It will it will lead to humility. It
will lead to love. It will lead to the
healing.
It will lead to being able to break
addictions off of us.
So, everything that you want and
everything that you truly are is in
Christ.
Everything that is false about us and
everything that will eventually fall off
of us is in those other realms.
So, in Christ, we don't need we don't
need numbers. We don't need any type of
crystals. We don't need any of that
because he is the creator of numbers. He
is the creator of matter. He is the
creator of crystals, and he is the
creator of water. He is the creator of
our dreams. He is the creator of our
imagination. So, everything is in him
and not in these other things. Do you
follow me? So, think of it like that.
So,
so, all those things are just a scratch
on the surface of our creator. Right.
So, you want truth, my brother?
Go ahead.
Um like you said yeah, like you know,
you know, Jesus is the truth. And like
you said, you know, once you
it may take some time, you know, to push
into Christ. It may actually, you know,
it may take some time to
um
you know, unravel, you know, and get out
of the stuff that you're into, you know.
Or it may take some time if you
you really want out of it, bro,
I I I believe I believe it like if you
really want to let that stuff go and you
really want an encounter with Jesus, I
believe that we can pray for you right
now.
And that and that the Holy Spirit will
touch you. He will show you great and
mighty things that you do not know and
you cannot find out through him.
That's what I would suggest. Do it
through him. Pursue him. And see and and
see see it
see what those other spirits have to say
about it.
See what see what they say. And they and
I trust
question. One more question. Can I ask
one more question about
Yeah, you can go ahead, brother. Do you
think that
Do you think that um
you know,
Jesus is along with, you know, Do you
think that some of those other realms or
whatever, you know, that some of them
may, you know, I know there's obviously
tricksters and all that, but do you
think that, you know, if you bring
something along with your soul that, you
know, that you have found out that maybe
some of those other realms could
actually be at of service for you or our
partner, you know, not I'm saying not
not demons, but something may of those
could come good that we don't know about
that may be with Jesus, too, that you
know, uh
you know, like in the Bible, don't they
use crystals in the Bible at some point
or like
and stuff like that. That's just one of
the questions I have. I don't know.
It's just
cuz I read about I've read a little bit
of the Bible, but I don't know much.
I've heard people say they use amulets
and stuff like that or
talismans or crystals and you know, the
Yeah, they did all that before Jesus.
Yeah, they Yeah, they Yeah, they would
use those things before Christ came. And
so, even like, you know, the animal sac-
sacrifices, I think you would really put
them in the same boat with the animal
sacrifices. We don't we don't do that to
to talk to the Lord, right? Jesus is
like the one true sacrifice. And so,
what what Jesus did, instead of using
all that stuff, now we can go directly
to God through Christ. That's what he
did. He He He's the bridge. So, we don't
have to we don't even have to go see a
priest. We don't have to do all this
stuff. We go directly through Jesus. We
don't have to have any amulets. We don't
have to do anything but to go directly
through him. A lot of that stuff is
there, and I'm I'm going to tell you
from personal experience like it's
inter- it's interesting to to study.
I've studied it and I've taught it even
as a Christian. But I'm telling you like
what exactly what Mark said,
most of it is a distraction. So, that
you're you're looking into crystals.
You're hanging out with new agers about
crystals or what- or look listening to
new agers who don't know Jesus and who
quite frankly
hate Jesus because of the spirit that's
within them. And I'm saying this from
personal personal experience right now.
But
that's what you'll find out, man. You're
going to find out that you'll start
looking into those things versus going
directly to the source.
And and and so, it's it's going to
occupy your mind. It's going to occupy
your time. And that's how those
strongholds get built. These strong When
we're talking about these demons,
they're not these these physical
manifestations that are roaming through
the earth like the gnomes and fairies.
They're thought forms.
They they get in your mind. Right. They
tell you They tell you lies about
yourself, about Jesus. And then because
with those things, they you know, they
bring the vibrations of the thought
patterns that Jesus isn't the only way.
He is the way
and you're kind of like Jesus yourself.
You know, you're You know, you're going
around healing people. You love God. You
love people. You can be Jesus. You don't
need him, right? Isn't Isn't that what
what those circles teach? They don't
teach that Christ died for sin and that
we can become right with God Right.
through Christ. And that's That's going
to That's going to be the big thing
there.
Exactly. But when you find out like we
talked about at the beginning, they get
offended when you preach Christ. They
get offended when you say that Jesus set
you free from pornography. They get
offended when when you say that that
that you had a home You had a homosexual
spirit upon you and Jesus
set you free from homosexuality.
They will be They will get offended.
Trust me. This is a spiritual battle.
It's not about intellect. It's not about
experience. It's It's a It's about a
spiritual warfare that that we're in
with spirits that hate Jesus.
They hate him. They hate you.
Right. They hate me.
And and let me And let me give you an
example of a of a lie, right? So, a lie
will tell me, "I need this crystal
because I need the energy that this is
going to,
you know, have around me or I need this
energy to clear someone else's energy,
you know." It's a lie because all we
need is Christ. He created energy. He
created matter, space, time. He created
everything. We don't need any of those
things.
Do you follow me? We literally do not
need any You don't need
You don't even need to like wear a
cross. You know, if you do, that's fine.
But there is no power in just a a little
cross. The power is in the Holy Spirit.
The power is our faith in Christ. So,
for an example, the things that I used
to use crystals for were the things that
when I used to have to do incantations
and One time I I did an incantation to a
to a water demon and I had to bring
money and and a food offering and some
some other stuff and then I had to do
certain prayers and and I had to Yeah, I
don't feel that.
But I'm just going to give you an
example. I had to bring these
physical things there and I thought
that's where power was. It's a lie. It's
a way to get us entangled by demonic
spirits.
The The truth is
all power, all glory, all love is in
Christ. Everything we need is in him. I
could stand butt booty naked with
nothing, no shoes, no no money, no
nothing and I have all the power in the
universe seated on the throne of my
heart because I've submitted to the
creator of this reality. And that is
Jesus. And with him, we don't need any
of those things. They just drop off. So,
the lie we've been told is you need
these things. These things have power.
You need them around you. They will
protect you. They will bring you
blessings. They will bring you luck.
They will It Those are all lies, my
brother.
The truth is all you need is Christ. You
need His Holy Spirit to sit on His
throne, which is your heart. Mhm. You
know, earlier today we talked about what
is the goal of the demonic. The demonic
is to Their goal is to steal, kill, and
destroy. The way they do that is through
deception. Their ultimate goal is for
you to worship them and for you to give
them the throne of your heart.
What is the goal of Jesus? The ultimate
goal of Jesus is the throne of your
heart. That's His throne. That is where
the Holy We are the temple of God.
We are the church. We are living stones.
So, you, my brother, you're
Your ultimate destiny, I pray in Jesus'
mighty name, is to be a living,
breathing
um body that is filled with the Holy
Spirit of Christ. When you fully
experience that, you will not need any
trinkets. You will not need any
deceptions. You will not
go to any of those side things that are
trying to get your attention to the left
and to the right. You will know, "I am a
child of God. The Holy Spirit lives in
me. Every step I take is an advancement
of the kingdom of God. I am a light in
this dark world. I am the the salt of
this earth. I am a child of the mighty
God and I am here to be a warrior for
the kingdom." And I prophesy that over
everybody that is listening to this and
I prophesy that over you, my brother.
And so now, Thank you.
is in your hands. Do you receive? Do you
want to receive that?
Yes, I do.
In Jesus' mighty name,
that's your destiny. You're Let Let Let
Let Let me pray. Do you What's your name
again, bro?
Uh Matt. Matt?
Okay. Yes. Matt is here. All right. Let
me pray for us.
Father God, I just want to thank you for
this beautiful day that you've created.
I want to thank you for life. I want to
thank you for our brother Matt. Lord, I
just lift him up and I lay him at your
feet and I pray your will be done to
him, Father. I come against every
ungodly, unclean, perverse spirit and I
bind you in the mighty name of Jesus and
cast you back into the abyss far away
from Matt's life. I break every chain of
oppression. I break every chain of
slavery. I break every lie that has been
spoken into his mind and I release the
anointing power, the mighty power of the
Holy Spirit. I plead the blood of Jesus
over my brother's mind for cleansing and
protection. Father God, will you reveal
yourself to him? Holy Spirit, would you
fill him with your love, with your
peace, with your joy, with your power to
break everything that is not from you
off of his life? Would you break
addiction? Would you break any
strongholds of the enemy, Father? And
would you fill him with a fire
to get into your word? Would you just
fill him with a passion to get into your
word? Would you reveal to him that he is
a mighty child of God that no one can
pluck him out of your hand, Father?
Would you reveal to him that you will
finish the work you started in him and
no one can do anything about that,
Father God? Would you reveal to him how
much you love him and what the cross
means, that you took on flesh and you
took on all of our sin
and you said, "Father, forgive them, for
they know not what they do."
Amen.
So, Matt, would you receive that
forgiveness? Do you receive that
forgiveness
for you? Do you know that you are
forgiven?
You do?
Yes, I do. Thank you.
Amen. In Jesus' mighty name, Amen. thank
you for calling, my brother.
Amen.
No problem, man. It's so great talking
to y'all.
Great to talk to you. Brother, get
plugged in with us, man. We got links
in the video description. There's links
to my Facebook. Mars is on Facebook.
He's got his website and uh this is
something that we got to walk out daily,
man, because dealing with these spirits,
once these spirits leave, they go to dry
places and then they come back with with
other spirits that are seven times
stronger than they are and they try to
come back to the same home. They try to
come back to the same body. So, we have
to We have to find When they come back,
if our house is swept clean and we have
renewed our mind and we've put Christ
within us, right? Then,
you know, they can't They can't come
back. But they will try to come back.
Mark my words. It may not be tomorrow,
next week. It may be 7 years, but they
will try to come back. So, when they
come back, let them find that house
swept clean and full of the Holy Ghost,
man. This is a daily thing. This is not
a theory. This is not just some some,
you know, religious thing that we've
accepted. This is a daily call that is
the most beautiful
All those meditations and all of this
this stuff that they offer has nothing
on just 1 minute, 1 hour in the presence
of Jesus that you can experience anytime
you want.
It's an ecstatic encounter. Kundalini
Kundalini is like a fake fake It's like
the uh opposite Kundalini spirit I don't
know. I think that was a Oh, pardon my
mind or what caused that that actually
happened. You know, like having and it
it's something felt something shoot up
my back. That's what I think. Other
things that people It's such a mystery
that it's so messed up, you know, that
even people that have it can't tell you
what it is. Do they? Because it's so
confusing and it's
I've I You know what? And I repent and
I'm sorry for for teaching that. And uh
It's the Holy Ghost, man. You just need
You just need Jesus. You don't need the
Kundalini. And I repent before
everybody.
And um it's it's all Jesus, man. It's
all you need.
Amen.
Talk to you later. All right, brother.
God bless.
Amen. Amen. Holy Ghost, thank you,
Jesus.
Bless them, Lord. Everybody watching
right now, God, who desires to go deeper
in you, wherever they are, God, they
their heart is genuinely thirsty for the
deep things of God.
Lord, may you guide them, Father God.
May you take them where they want to go.
Let them not look to the right or to the
left like Mar said, but keep their eyes
totally focused on you.
For you are love, for you are light.
And we thank you, Father, in Jesus'
mighty name, Lord. Bless them in Jesus'
name.
Amen. That's awesome. Wow.
We got another caller. You ready, man?
Yes, sir.
Come on, man. Thank you for what you
doing, Holy Ghost.
We got a caller from Mississippi.
Welcome to the show. Who we speaking
with?
Is that me? Yeah, what's going on?
Carl, brother. Carl Austin. Carl, prayer
warrior. What's going on, brother? How
are you?
I'm all right, man. I got called the
last 30 minutes
and I was going to say something about
the witchcraft and all that in Meridian
where I'm at, you know, and praying for
these folks and all that, but I was
going to ask for a special prayer and I
just had to do it right now for myself
and Faith, too, so
kind of
kind of both ways, man. I mean, I see a
bunch of witchcraft and you know, I see
a bunch of
demonic things going on in Meridian and
these folks are
I've seen it in churches. I've always
seen it. And
the cult-like atmosphere, you know what
I'm saying? Yeah.
Yep.
Rebellion is as a The main thing is as a
You know what I'm saying? The sin of
witchcraft, man. The the spirit of
rebellion runs in a lot of churches,
man.
You can pick that up. Mhm.
Exactly. And uh But honestly, Derek,
bro, you know how strong I think I am
sometimes and how strong as as believers
and as followers, how strong or how weak
we can become whenever we I guess you
could say we fall off Yeah.
Or let go for just a second, you know?
Yep.
No, I'm going to let go of my my pride
and my humility and I'm going to ask for
prayer right now because
as strong as I was going and as strong
as me and Faith was going together
lately,
I've had uh the the spirits of lust get
in between in between
our walk with Christ. And what I mean by
that is, you know,
I had an argument with with her
Methodist family and I'm not bringing up
religion in it necessarily, but it kind
of run me off of there to keep and go
back to my place to keep from arguments
with her family and things and until we
got our financial situation straight and
we decided where we're going to be. I
have a place, she has a place, but
both of us
both of us before we found God before we
found Christ,
both of us had our own way of our our
sexual flee, man. I know it's kind of
off the subject. I just need a prayer,
my brother. It's in the subject.
Definitely in the subject. Go ahead,
keep going.
Had our own way of finding love in the
past, you know, and I was a sex fiend
and so was she.
And it's
What's happened is we started bringing
up sexual lust.
And before you know it, and that's what
it hit me today. Just because we're
separated because work is full of her
and we're hour and a half apart,
basically.
And my truck's been broke down about
which slowed me down from speaking to
who I speak with every day for real. It
slowed me down on work. Work's been
slow, etc.
But what it's done is these sexual
thoughts, now they keep lurking and
lurking and lurking before we're sitting
and talking about stuff that we know is
not right, but yet it seems like an easy
way for us to sit there and be together.
And you know, we know why God gave sex.
We know that I ain't going to say we
know everything about the Bible, but you
know if anybody does how strong I
believe and how much I study and how
much I have studied and how much I love
people.
But I'm going You know, I'm going to
drop that pride thing, the loss of pride
in front of the world or whoever to say
I I stand and fell short because of this
and I won't let that take a beat.
Amen, brother. Well, the scripture
You know, the scripture says to confess
your sins one to another so that you may
be healed, man. Amen.
Amen.
Amen. We believe in that. We know you
do, too, so we definitely lift you up,
man.
I'll pray right now.
Father, I thank you for my brother Carl,
Lord. I thank you for calling him out of
darkness and into your marvelous light,
Lord. That you set your seal of approval
upon him and gave him a new name. God, I
thank you that you called him as a
prophet into the nations, Lord. I pray
that anything that hinders him, Lord
God, sexual immorality, thoughts of the
past or ways to kill time, Father God,
we submit that to you, Lord, and we
cover it under the blood. I'm asking you
to take that right now, God. Holy Ghost,
move upon them, give them a fresh touch
right now in Jesus' name. Fresh touch in
Jesus' mighty name. Father, you are his
strength. You sustain us, God. So any
any quick fix
to be loosed right now, no quick fixes
that we put in time, we put in work with
the presence of God. And I pray that
he'll just be more intimate with you,
Lord. When they want to get intimate
together, they'll they'll get intimate
with the Holy Ghost to move in and open
the scriptures and begin to seek you,
Lord. And that you, Father God, meet
them in those prayer chambers, God.
Reveal yourself to them in a deeper way.
Strongholds to be lifted, to be loosed
in Jesus' mighty name. Thank you for my
brother and sister. Jesus' name.
Jesus' name. Brother, I
feel it. I can feel it, man. And Mar
said I just want to
I enjoyed the last 30 minutes whenever I
get to speak to Faith tonight, she picks
me up, we're going to watch the whole
thing and
Amen. Brother, I just had to do it.
You know, Derek, you my you know my
number one man and I had to talk to you.
I appreciate y'all. I appreciate you
taking the time to get back on I'm going
to get right back where I was, man,
because I I couldn't handle it no more
when I was speaking to another brother
and you know I'm hated around anyway
because I
But
Hey.
It's part of it, brother. Hey, man,
thanks thanks for checking in with us,
man. I love you. We're going to keep you
lifted up.
Love y'all, brother. Be good. I love
you, brother.
That's what the scripture say, "Woe to
you when all men speak well of you, for
so did their fathers to the false
prophets."
Just because you're following Christ,
because you're doing the right thing,
because you're do you're doing what
you're supposed to do, you love
everybody,
you you're going to have some targets on
your back, man. Especially when when
when when you're operating in those
realms and you're tearing down
strongholds,
you're going to have targets on your
back, man. And that's why That's why I
talked to you, you know, before we went
live, I felt something in the spirit,
man. Something I had like that I that I
would, you know, be attacked for shining
light on these situations, but without
the blood of Christ,
like you you
you would be a fool
to approach those realms on your own.
If you really knew
If you really knew If you, you know, all
the spirits that are behind the movies
and things like that, that stuff shows
you a glimpse of that realm, but to to
to go blindly into those realms
uncovered to to deal with spirits and
and things like I like we said, they're
a lot older than us. They've been here
for thousands of years and they're
angry. And so they'll lie to you and
tell you they can bring you wealth,
tell you things about your future, tell
You know why they can tell you things
about your family? Cuz they Cuz they
were here for generations.
Familiar spirits that were passed down
from one generation to the next and it
can tell you stuff about people who
existed here
many years ago. They know all this stuff
and they'll whisper it to you and try to
tell you that all this is some some
esoteric knowledge that's special and
privileged just to you.
We got to be careful, man. We really do.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You know, I wanted
to say something I got
what it reminded me of when when you
said we will have, you know, beware when
people
speak well of you. I have a lyric that
says
I heard today I got another target on my
back. I'm the enemy's enemy. What's the
news in that? Like
of course we're going to have That's
That's It should be expected. We should
we should as Christians be ready for
war. We're in a war. And I think it's
when we get comfortable, when we get
compliant,
we forget these things and it's easy to
to forget that. But we're in a spiritual
war. War for our minds, war for our
hearts, a war for worship.
They want our worship. They want our
attention. They want our time. You know,
and it could be some something as simple
as how much time do you spend on
Facebook? Yeah.
It's just kind of a waste of time
sometimes, you know? I'm not about to
judge y'all for that. You know, I'm
guilty of that, too. You or how you
know, that's a form of worship. How much
time are you spending on this thing? You
know, and then it could go to the
extreme. That could be a simple little
thing and it could go to the extreme
of getting us completely off base and
whether it's with sexual lust or or
whatever ways trying to pull us away
from God's purpose for our life.
You know? But ultimately, God wins.
Amen. It It
It talks about in I believe it's
Galatians chapter 1
and it talks about Let's see.
It talks about being
removed from from the simplicity
that is in Christ. The simplicity of the
gospel. This This gospel is real simple,
guys. And that's the that's the thing
like in the new age it's got to be
really deep, really mystical mysticism
that only a few can find it. That's what
the word esoteric means, truth that only
a few people find. And so it talks about
some people
being called away from the simplicity of
the gospel and giving into the
worshipping of angels. Like this was
happening during the time of Paul's, the
worshipping of angels. And I think you
hit it right on the head when you said
that
it's not really about worshipping,
getting on your knees or making the
altars. Most people aren't going to do
that, but it's the over
um over infatuation with these things
that it consumes so much of your mind,
so much of your of of your heart and and
and your time.
Um
that's the thing, the over infatuation
with these things.
What would happen if you were over
infatuated with God?
You were over infatuated with Jesus. You
just wanted to be like him. The whole
thing about being transformed by the
renewing of your mind by the reading of
the word,
this whole association thing as well.
You know when you hang around people for
long enough you begin to talk like these
people, your friends whether they have a
certain slang.
You know, if we if if you go to
Louisiana, you start talking like them,
you come back to Alabama,
your voice changes. This stuff happens.
You start picking up on on the stuff
people are saying.
What happens when you when you're
hanging out with Jesus?
You begin to say the things that he
says. When you're hanging out with the
Holy Spirit, your your motives, your
desires, you begin to love the things
that he loves. You begin to hate the
things that that he hates. The fear of
the Lord is the beginning of of wisdom.
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil.
So we can't be scared to call certain
things evil.
We can't. It's like, "Oh, everything's
good, man. It's just, you know,
different things for different people."
No, some stuff is wicked, man. Some
stuff
I and and for me what makes it wicked is
when these things have hidden agenda and
hidden motives. And when we're talking
about spiritism and evil spirits,
or angelic they call them angelic
spirits, but when they come with another
motive,
they're lying to you.
They want something. I'm telling you,
you have to give something, whether it's
an altar, but I'm telling you they want
a piece of your mind. They want to live
in your brain. They want a body. They
want these ancient spirits who who were
causing murder and war in the earth
thousands of years ago,
they want a body.
They want to commit murder. They want to
They can't taste food anymore. They're
They're spirits that don't have bodies,
but when they inhabit a body, then they
get to taste food. Then they get to
gorge themselves on on meats and fine
wines and and committing sins and and
and trying to tell you to to to do
things and
all kinds of wickedness, man. This stuff
when we talk about the crystals it it
really gets into
um
the rocky ground as well because Enoch
goes into talking about that the angels
took men to the side and taught them all
of these different witchcrafts. They
taught them how to make makeup, how to
braid their hair certain types of way,
how to use crystals and summon angels
and summon demons and stuff. All this
stuff's written up in the book of Enoch.
So that's why it's like
we can't just say, "Hey, they used them
in the Bible that on you know what I'm
saying, on the breastplate. We you know,
you know what I'm saying, we can use
crystals, too."
No, because then therefore when you do
that,
these other spirits are in in involved
and and
like you were saying, it's something
else. It just takes the attention
away from the what? The simplicity. It's
not simple anymore.
You got to add all this stuff to it. The
gospel is simple, man.
You approach the throne boldly through
grace, by grace through faith, lest any
man should boast. See, we can boast in
our study.
We can boast in how many crystals or how
many fastings or how many mushrooms and
things like this. I've been there, man.
I'm speaking I'm not This is from
experience.
So
by grace through faith, lest any man
should boast. We receive the gospel of
grace by putting our faith
and our trust in Jesus and what he did
on the cross. We believe
and we confess it,
we're saved.
We believe that Jesus died on the cross
and that God rose him from the dead on
the third day and he suffered
pain for our sins, that he took the
wrath that we deserve, then we're saved,
man.
All these other spirits,
they must bow.
They must bow to King Jesus, man.
And they do and they will.
Amen.
In Jesus' name. Brother, thank you for
coming on the show, man. I want to plug
your links cuz you cuz you you are on
Facebook, you do have a a website. You
want to go ahead and plug that stuff,
man, where people can contact you and
Yeah, you can
Your music, too. You got you got new
music. I heard some of the newer stuff
from the
you just put out. It was really good
stuff, man.
If you guys go to marz official.com,
that's m a r z official.com,
on there I got a new mixtape out called
Rebel Music. You know, the concept of
that is, you know, the
the only true rebels in this world are
the ones that rebel against the systems
and the spirit of this world. You know,
and in my perspective there was one
true rebel in this world and that was
Christ cuz he rebelled against
everything that
all the systems that were in place at
that time down here.
And now he can live through us and
continue to rebel against the systems
and the spirit of this world. So you
could you could download that mixtape
Rebel Music for free off the site.
That's m a r z official.com.
And on the site it has links to my
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and all of
that. So I pray that it blesses you. Hit
me up. You know, if you guys got
questions, you can hit hit me up on
Twitter, Facebook, email me and I'll do
my best to get to get to it. Are you
doing some stuff at your church? I see
I seen a lot of pictures of you on stage
performing at the church. Are you
rapping up there?
I have, yeah. And I've and I've
performed I have performed
a at a lot of churches. Um what we're
doing right now, we're in the process of
booking shows for for Rebel Music. And I
have another album coming out in the
spring. It's called Wake the Dead. So
it's it's finished, it's mastered,
mixed, everything. So we're setting up a
bunch of stuff for this year and and
trying to cause a movement and and just
really trying to push the kingdom
forward boldly.
And I feel like that's I feel like
that's part of my call
that I have I have a desire and a
passion and a love to boldly
preach it to
to where it needs to be preached. So I
just pray I just pray for the continued
drive of the Holy Spirit
to to move the kingdom in that
direction, you know. Thank you for
reaching out, my brother. This was this
was a pleasure, man. So good to meet
you, man.
Yeah, we'll have to do it again,
brother. Definitely.
Absolutely.
Powerful, man. You just let me know. And
so um anybody out there who wants to see
a Marz and True Seeker collab, make sure
you leave a comment below. That's right.
Do what we got to do to make it happen,
man. Definitely, man. Excited about the
future and what what God is doing, man.
Thanks so much for coming on, brother.
Thank you, my brother.
Have you on again, brother. Shalom
shalom. Peace. All right. Peace.
All right. That was awesome, man.
Thank you, bro. Thank you.