Sevin Of HOGmob - Being Blacklisted From Christian Rap
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evening seven of hog mob what's going on
seven was mobbing bro how you living
baby oh man I'm blessed brother blessed
and highly favored of the Lord how you
man
you already know man God is good bro
just chilling chilling glad uh we could
finally pull this thing off you know
what I'm saying I know I've been in and
out a lot too so uh yeah it's good to be
here bro man you're a busy man dude
you're working on a new album doing
full-time Ministry full-time music you
know you know what I'm saying you stay
on the road so thank you for finding the
time just to hang out with me for a
little bit man means a lot oh yeah it's
good it's good and and uh publicly you
know I want to salute you bro for you
know all the help given the ministry as
far as like you know on the website
stuff and everything man it's it's it's
really uh helped us in an area where we
was lacking for a long time you know
what I'm saying because I'm not really
into the computer thing so it's uh it's
been dope bro so I appreciate you you
know what I'm saying God says give honor
where honors through so you know what
I'm saying appreciate that bro yeah man
I appreciate that dude that means a lot
um speaking of not really knowing much
about social media that's kind of a a a
true statement like a lot of people get
on there they check their numbers I I I
pretty much get on every day and check
my podcast numbers every day I look at
them see what we're doing going up or
down um a lot of your videos have gone
viral and you said you didn't even know
nothing about it because you don't get
on there you don't get on YouTube and
check the videos and stuff like that you
know what I'm saying talk a little bit
about that
man man I mean I think it's a blend of a
few things you know I really that's not
really my personality you know I'm more
in
I guess they call you know I'm saying
idea people that I this you know what
I'm saying like or you know having
access to me like all the time you know
what I'm saying I think that's kind of
weird
personally um yeah so so I've never
really got into it you know what I'm
saying and I've seen what it's done like
you know um to a lot of people that I've
known for a while and and they were a
certain way but then after exposing
themselves to this thing so long you
know it's changed their character and
it's changed their priorities you know
and I always I I want to make sure that
I'm always doing this for the right
reason you know what I'm saying that I'm
I'm I'm that my heart is right before
the Lord and that my heart is right
towards people you feel me and I feel
like it's very hard to do that if you
get caught up in in the hype of what you
might be for the moment because that's
really all it's gonna be it's for the
moment you know what I'm saying um and
so and I'm not in love with myself I I
know myself too well to fall in love
with myself you know that's you know I'm
saying I I love the Lord You Dig what
I'm saying um I love myself but as far
as you know not not enough to to be
constantly checking my stats you dig um
but yeah man it's been I think it's been
healthy for me you know what I'm saying
as just as a man and as an artist um
especially as a minister I think it has
been healthy for me and and it
outside it keeps indry be Out Among the
people as much as possible and so you
know that's why hog mob kind of has the
character and the face that it has and
stuff but God he he has blessed a lot of
things we released to do well you know
what I'm saying and um I try not to look
at comments really ever um not for the
good or the bad you know I think it's
dangerous if you constantly focus on the
negative things people have to say about
you and I also think it's equally
dangerous to sit and and revel you know
in uh the good things people say you
know what I'm saying yeah definitely man
um I mean that's one thing about you
know what I'm saying keeping your hands
clean and your heart pure and not doing
it for the numbers even though you know
what I'm saying the numbers are a part
of it it's good that you kind of have
other people you know what I'm saying
delegated to to actually keep up with
that stuff you know what I'm saying
where it's not that you have to create
the music see like on my end I have to
create the music I have to um promote it
myself make all the graphic art you know
what I'm saying do the videos plan the
shoot do the editing and stuff and I and
I'm I'm I'm blessed and I'm gifted at it
all but it would be awesome to just be
able to work on the music and then have
a team or people to actually push it out
there man so that's awesome that you can
actually just you know what I'm saying
focus on that versus okay now we got to
focus on the marketing and how are we
going to you know you know what I'm
saying we shot the best video ever that
we've ever done and now how are people
going to see it you know what I'm saying
you don't have really have to worry
about that you just put it out there the
fans share it it kind of goes viral on
its own you you've been putting been
putting into work for years and it kind
of just does what it
does yeah I kind of I I only want what
God has for me you know I I don't
there's not a specific platform or
there's not a specific level that I even
really want to be at you know I just
want to be where God wants me because I
feel like wherever that is that's where
I'm safe you know what I'm saying that's
that's what I'll be able to responsibly
handle um I think you can definitely
hustle your way onto a platform that
your shoulders are not broad enough to
to to to Bear you feel me and I'm I'm
here for a reason and it ain't my own
name you know I'm here to represent a
name that's greater than my own so it's
very important for me to make sure that
wherever I'm at it's something I can
handle because I don't want to
misrepresent you know I'm saying the
name of Jesus Christ you feel what I'm
saying so um I I I really try to like
you said bro we we do our best to make
good quality things and then we kind of
just put it out there bro and wherever
it goes that's where it goes you know
we've had videos I mean do millions in a
matter of a day or two and then we've
had some that we thought would have done
great that you know what I'm saying M
might only did 100,000 you know what I'm
saying and so I mean I just feel like
God takes it where he wants it to go the
people receive it however they receive
it and it's our job to just keep it
coming you feel me so with you know
doing full-time Ministry man and kind of
taking it day by day is is that like you
know what I'm saying the model of how
you live of of not thinking too far
ahead and just kind of like seeing where
you are today and not getting caught up
on on like autopilot and okay I got all
these shows lined up I got I I have to
you know what I'm saying meet all these
shows versus taking your Consciousness
man your awareness and and and staying
in the moment for that day and say okay
I'm going to give all my energy all my
attention to this day to serve who I can
and to be there and just to be aware you
know what I'm saying of of people and
you know what I'm saying my situations
around me is that is that kind of how
you live yeah I try you know it's hard I
ain't gonna lie bro I haven't mastered
the art of balance you know what I'm
saying I mean I I some I'm I'm I can
become uh really obsessive sometimes
when it comes to certain projects you
know I can sometimes I can dive too deep
into something and then neglect
responsibilities that I have and I'm
working on you know being more
well-rounded when it comes to that you
know what I'm saying um I don't know I
think I lost you bro did you still there
yeah yeah I'm here uhuh okay there you
go um so you know um I know like even
recently like right now I'm booking a
100 City missions trip I'm working on
three albums you know all at the same
time you feel me I I'm still do Outreach
in my own personal neighborhood you know
I'm still discipling um almost about 100
Guys across the country um and then at
the same time trying not to you know run
myself into the ground and even if I
can't take a whole day off I try to take
at least half a day off sometimes you
know what I'm saying so um you know it's
it's it's important to try to you know
uh uh rest but then at the same time too
much the Bible says you know a a little
sleep a little Slumber and a little
folding of the hands to rest and poverty
will overtake you like a lion so you
know you got to have that balance where
you don't want to work yourself into the
grave but you also gotta you know pay
your bills and make sure that whatever
God's put you on this Earth to do is
getting done so I'm I'm kind of learning
right now bro how to like juggle
everything a little bit better and to
trusting people and and you that's why
you got to have a good team around you
you can't just have a team it has to be
a good team and and you you know for
those of you out there that are building
a team you build it according to your
weaknesses not your strengths you know
where wherever you're not good at that's
the areas you need to find people but
you got to be humble enough to recognize
your weaknesses you know what I'm saying
because if you're the type of person
who's too prideful to look in the mirror
and recognize a flaw well then you'll
never do anything you know what I'm
saying to change that about yourself or
your situation and so you know I've been
really kind of closely examining myself
and saying okay I'm great at this and I
suck at this so let me find somebody
who's great at this and then not be
intimidated by their greatness in that
area and just give them you know the the
free reign to do what God's called them
to do in that area and then trust that
they'll get it done and it's been
working better you know we're we're a
much better machine than we used to be
now yeah I I mean that I you know what
I'm saying I think that that says a lot
and it kind of ties in with where I
wanted to go a little bit you're talking
about that you know what I'm saying
you're discipling around a 100 guys and
many people out there you know what I'm
saying professing Christians aren't part
of a local body I think I think Church
culture
and all the cliches and stuff is really
weird out there right now it it's just
it's it's kind of nasty to me I've been
I've been in it for so long and all of
the the you know what I'm saying the the
different hierarchies in the church that
are built up in the platforms and the
celebrity preachers and stuff like that
you have to go into a lot of churches
like that I I've been there too right um
yeah yeah so you have that versus going
into the heart of the streets and doing
genuine Outreach and so you have all of
these Christians these people who love
God who aren't part of a body they see a
movement like hog mob and they want to
belong I think we all want to be a part
of something greater than ourselves and
and they see hog mob as a model of
something that what the church is
lacking in discipleship what the church
is lacking in just being real and
telling me about myself and just being
real about issues um a lot of a lot of
young people have found that in hogmob
man talk a little little bit about the
disconnect there because you still go to
you you know what I'm saying a lot of
churches a lot of big fancy youth groups
and stuff but you're from the heart of
the streets man and and that's where
you're you're like trying to go the tour
and and and you're you're getting
people you know what I'm saying where
they are and it's working man and and
and there's dude I don't know how many
people's a part of hog mob movement it's
I'm sure it's thousands and thousands of
people I see him every day um talk a
little bit about that disconnect man and
and like you know what I'm saying your
vision and and where it
fits into the local church you
know well first of all I think the main
issue that we're having bro is the term
church needs to be clearly defined yeah
you know I'm big on Words you know what
I'm saying
um the church is the name of the bride
of Christ so first of all I'm not gonna
say nothing about the church amen
because that's I mean that's what Christ
died for that's his wife that's what I'm
a part of that you know what I'm saying
um you have the true church and then you
have what I call the [Â __Â ] who's in who
wears a wedding dress and is trying to
kind of stand in and and be an impostor
in the wedding you know what I'm saying
um and and and parade herself as the
bride um and I think we need to as the
body of Christ you know what I'm saying
we need to do a better job at
identifying the bride and identifying
the [Â __Â ] when we see them and not give
the [Â __Â ] the title of the Bride you
know what I'm saying so if it's not the
fellowship of Jesus Christ if it's not
the fellowship of true followers of
Jesus Christ you know what I'm saying
true biblical followers of Jesus Christ
not this madeup stuff that people are
doing nowadays you know what I'm saying
but according to the word of God you
know what I'm saying then it doesn't
even have the right to to be called the
church and we are we are disrespecting
the church by giving it that title you
know what I'm saying so I think a lot of
times we say oh the church ain't doing
this and the church ain't doing that
church it's not the church so we need
because the true church is doing all of
those things exactly you know what I'm
saying it's just that's not the majority
of what we see but the true church has
never and will never be the majority of
the population you know what I'm saying
or even be the majority of those who are
professing Christ unfortunately you know
what I'm saying so I think that's the
main thing first of all that has to
happen is we just have a better um um
process of defining Church you know what
I'm saying um I know for me I got hurt
you know um a a long time ago you know
by people who were professing to be the
church and um it caused me to shy away
and have a hard heart and a cold
shoulder to a lot of things that um you
know I probably could have benefited
from in terms of Christian Fellowship
yeah you know what I'm saying I was like
oh this is all fake so I might as well
just stay in the street so for a long
time I did that with a with a deep
misunderstanding of what the true church
really was and as the Lord started
educating me and as I took the
responsibility that I had to get in the
word and actually study for my self some
of these things then I started to
realize like yo you know what God
actually hates fakeness more than I do
you know I'm saying like God has a
problem with the same thing like you
know what I'm saying this stuff that I
can't stand he can't stand even more
exactly you know what I'm saying which
actually made me even Embrace his
Fellowship even more so um you know I
would encourage everybody man to to to
fellowship with True Believers you know
what I'm saying and if you want to know
what a True Believer looks like um I
would encourage you you know a great
place to go find that is is the book of
First John you know what I'm saying
there's there's there's a whole bunch of
information in there about the
difference between somebody who's
professing Christ and is authentic
versus somebody who's professing Christ
and truly hasn't made the commitment yet
um but you know uh um get involved man
and and don't just soak up resources
like actually serve you know if if if
you do go and attend a local church body
man serve there you know what I'm saying
don't just go and listen to a seminar
once a week like you know get involved
see what the needs are in the community
and and challenge your church leadership
to meet or or at least participate in
meeting the needs of the local community
you know what I'm saying a lot of times
that's where you'll find out if it's
real or if it's fake is are we doing the
things that Christ said was true
religion you know what I'm saying um and
and you have a lot of that right now uh
not happening you know what I'm saying
we're having a lot of meetings we're
doing a lot of preaching not too much
teaching and then there's a whole lot of
people who are saying they have a heart
for something but when it comes down to
it they really don't participate in it
ever you know I'm saying and so um you
know we just as a Ministry man we try to
do what we see Jesus do we try to do it
for the reason we see Jesus doing it for
you know what I'm saying knowing that
we're not perfect but he was perfect for
us so we're able to move forward bro in
boldness and in faith because of of of
of of uh what the spirit is doing to us
and through us and um we I'm definitely
uh trying to provide people with a
spiritual family that I didn't
necessarily have when I first came in
that's my biggest thing I want to be the
brother I never had and the father you
know what I'm saying that that um the
spiritual father that um I wasn't really
connected to you know what I'm saying
for other
people definitely man I agree with that
100% a th% Church isn't someplace that
we go to it's not a building that we go
to it's who we are you know what I'm
saying whenever we come together we are
part of the body we represent we are the
manifestation of Christ on the face of
the Earth whenever we come together as a
as a people and and and that's where the
power is understanding the body and it's
it's huge man and I wanted to kind of
talk also about um I seen an interview
did um probably a year or two ago with
the um during South by Southwest and I
think it was one of your first times
actually going out there and getting
some type of media coverage and I don't
mean any offense when I say this but now
that the whole 116 and lrae thing is
kind of died down a lot I see some of
the I'm not going to name any names but
like um people with blogs and and
websites looking for the next big thing
to kind of put out there um you guys
were able to get some media coverage
during that and for you dude you've been
putting work for a very long time when I
came in to doing gospel music years and
years ago you were there you were there
and established but your name had never
been mentioned in these in these media
outlets and now you're starting to get a
little bit of coverage and you said that
like almost your name was kind of like
blacklisted from from some of these
circles I don't know if if it's if
because you were a little bit too Street
a little bit to hood or or you know what
I'm saying what it was or the tattoos
what whatever the case was talk a little
bit about that divide and how now
instead of pushing you away some of
these people are like asking you to come
and do interviews and and you know they
want to know your take on things you
know well um I think I think it's a
combination of a few
things you know um I know myself as a
man and as a man of God I've definitely
matured over the years you I'm saying um
I I I used to be probably a lot harder
of a pill to swallow for most people
than I am at this point you know and I'm
going to just be honest I was involved
in some things early on still caught up
you know um in in in a lot of struggles
you know that that um a lot of people
were like yeah you know let let's be
careful with this dude yeah because you
know and and I respect that you know
what I'm saying I do I respect that I
actually think to a degree we need to
have more of that you know as far as
like let's not be so quick to give the
new hot dude a platform yeah and let's
actually spend some time to get to know
him and pour into this brother and make
sure that whatever Roots he has are deep
in Christ you know what I'm saying
because we're all going to make mistakes
I mean the Bible even says we got to
make room for each other's errors and
room for each other's weaknesses so
that's not you know um the the world and
the church make mistakes the difference
between them is is how they manage those
mistakes and and how they respond to the
conviction you know what I'm saying that
comes or the
that come when those mistakes are
brought to the light you know what I'm
saying whereas the world will run from
God or or or hate God more you know what
I'm saying because he's confronting
things that he's not pleased with um the
children of God you know we we embrace
the Lord we embrace the correction and
we desire you know what I'm saying to
please our father so um I think also the
the gospel rap community and culture has
definitely become more mature itself in
terms of having a greater understanding
that look this carbon copy and and you
know these these ideas that y'all had
about what true Ministry looked like or
true Christianity look like you know
they're not really panning out the way
y'all thought that they would you know
what I'm saying so now you're starting
to see and then some of the dudes that
you have been you know not you
personally but just you know the the the
Christian Community for a long time was
kind of treating bad for a while they're
the ones that are been Faithful over the
years and they're the that are still
boldly professing Christ and all of
these things so I think a lot of people
are now turning around and and
especially now that the streets are kind
of spilling into the
suburbs you know the issues in the
streets are spilling into the suburbs
you know a lot of the Church community
were not from the streets you know what
I'm saying so so now that these problems
are are coming to where they dwell and
where they're out and they're affecting
their people now it's like yo we need to
get somebody who can talk to the streets
you know what I'm saying nobody really
cared about Street Ministry until the
streets started affecting everything I
mean culture in and of itself you know
what I'm saying is being affected by the
negative aspect of of of the street life
so um I think now a lot of people are
beginning to appreciate Brothers like
myself you know what I'm saying who who
specifically Target places where most
people don't want to go because they're
actually seeing like yo somebody's got
to do it and if I'm not willing to
personally go I certainly should support
those that are you know so I appreciate
that I think we have a long way to go
you know what I'm saying um but we've
come a long way I mean I've been doing
this 17 years man and and and it's it's
come a long way so you know I'm grateful
to God for what where it's at right now
um I had another artist on here several
months back and I'm assuming it's just
you know maybe he was a baby Christian
or whatever but he does a lot of Street
Ministry um and we were talking about
testimonies and what God was doing and
so I kind of set up a question um for
for him to give a testimony and this is
what I said I going to ask you so I I
pretty much asked him like has he seen
the power of God um out in the streets
has he seen people come to repentance
and um what I've seen personally and
this is I I when I asked this question I
thought I was going to you know have
somebody just bear witness with me um I
I asked him has he seen people who were
demon-possessed
filled with evil spirits on on drugs
I've been around people who can't look
you in the face face they can't have a
conversation with you because there's
voices in there there's stuff going
around their their mind is fuzzy they've
been up for days they get filled with
the power of God filled with the Holy
Ghost God touches them changes their
life they give their life to Christ he
touches them and they're completely
transformed in an instant like I've seen
that happen at churches I've seen it
happen in the streets when I asked this
brother that he had no idea he didn't
even believe in that it blew my mind he
didn't believe in it and he's doing
Ministry I want to ask you the same
question have you seen this
fruit absolutely um I think I think
sometimes what happens is um because it
happened to me when I first came in I
was I was very um uneducated you know if
you will ignorant you know ignorant
doesn't mean stupid it just means you
lack information you know what I'm
saying I was I was ignorant towards
certain things of the spirit um and so I
actually early on had seen things that I
didn't know that that's what I was
seeing at the time so if you had asked
me this maybe you know when I first got
started I would have been like H you
know maybe not too much even though it
was happening but I was I didn't
recognize what I was seeing when it was
happening yeah you feel what I'm saying
um I also am a firm believer that you
know uh uh the more time you spend in
the spirit and and and and walking with
the spirit of God you know what I'm
saying and the more mature you get in
your relationship with the spirit the
more uh you will kind of almost see
those manifestations of opposition you
know what I'm saying I really believe
that because you're more of a threat to
the spiritual world you know what I'm
saying so there will be more spiritual
opposition uh that comes from that I've
seen all kinds of stuff man I mean you
know demon possessed people bro um you
know what I'm saying I mean we've seen
even healings like miraculous healings
you know what I'm saying blind people
deaf people can hear uh lame people
walking like we've actually seen that
with our own eyes you know what I'm
saying um uh even me I got changed in an
instant yeah so the first time I ever
saw it happen was in my own life yeah
you know I'm saying I had a miraculous
transformation you know W with with the
Lord um and obviously you know more more
change over time but but in the moment
bro I was never the same you know what
saying um so yeah we we we do see a lot
of that those are the things that I look
forward to encountering when I go out
you know what I'm saying it's not the
stages it's not the lights it's I look
forward to seeing I get excited like
dang Lord I wonder what you gonna do
this time yeah because I know it's gonna
be wild and it's always something new
because the Situation's always different
you know what I'm saying I and and we're
not out here trying to produce any
specific result you know the Bible says
one man plants one man Waters but it's
God who brings the increase so I don't
even feel like that part of the game is
my responsibility my responsibility is
be obedient to the voice of the Lord
when he speaks you know what I'm saying
um and also to live a life that um
accurately reflects the gospel that I
preach you know so anything after that
bro that's really between the individual
their faith and God you feel me yeah I
think I think the scriptures are plain
man when it says that you know these
signs shall follow them that believe
that if you believe and and you know
what I'm saying you're walking in that
that these signs these manifestations
that happened to the disciples to Jesus
like they're going to they're going to
follow you too if you if you believe
that gospel and you're walking in it and
you just go go into all the world that's
what he said go and and you know I'm
saying you're doing that and you know
what I'm saying hats off to the people
even the people who aren't you know what
I'm saying real deep or like well
trained in the scriptures or even an
experience you know you got to get your
you know what I'm saying feet wet
sometime but I think one of the big
problems is and it kind of goes back to
what you said a while ago about you know
getting in a situation or being a part
of a Ministry or dealing with
principalities in the spirit realm and
you don't know what you're dealing with
right
um which I I I'm I don't really want to
go that deep right now but for this
question um we have um people who get
born again and they have giftings
they're a good rapper they play the
keyboard well they're a great singer and
then the churches will grab them and
throw them up on a platform instantly
okay you can sing okay we need you
you're gonna lead worship they don't
know nothing about worship you know I
need you to learn these songs sing them
Sunday morning and go and they don't
know if this person is dealing with some
type of you know um spirits in their own
life addiction you know what I'm saying
they don't know what's going on talk a
little bit about that because when you
see those people fall or their faults
come out in into the wash the churches
will
like just drop them oh you sinned you're
done get off the platform it's like what
and like it it it sets up a lot of
people to fall man you know what it is
man I I consider it child abuse yeah
definitely you know it's a form of child
abuse man here you have a spiritual
child um it's no different you know I
don't know if you you know if you're a
father or not but um you know I'm a I'm
a father bro like if I were to give my
son who's 5 years old keys to my car
yeah you know what I'm saying and then
when he crashes my car whoop him and dis
not even just whoop him but disown him
for it if if the world if the world were
to see me do that the world would say I
was a terrible father you know I'm
saying even even the wicked would say
that was wrong of me to ever put him uh
you know in that situation to fail and
then to treat him so heartlessly once he
does it you see what I'm saying and and
even the word of God in the book of
First Timothy it's very specific about
the fact that you do not put a platform
under a new convert because it will
destroy him you know what I'm saying it
will it's not a matter of of if it's
just a matter of when yeah you see what
I'm saying um I mean come on bro even
we've seen what this has done to even
seasoned people in the faith yeah yeah I
mean all men has Pride which is why all
men commit sin you know what I'm saying
from sin is pride is at the root of
every sin you see what I'm saying
because we're exalting our own desire
above the will of the father in any
given moment so
um Pride so for you to think spend a
large which is what these platforms do
which is what in your social media stats
that's all you're doing you're
constantly feeding your pride if you
think that whatever you're feeding is
not at some point going to grow stronger
than whatever it is you're not feeding
which is your humility you know what I'm
saying you're a fool you feel me so I
think you know for for for us we have to
do a better job as as the body of Christ
with holding people accountable to
discipling people as they're coming into
this I mean and and to be real bro I
don't know what that process
necessarily would look like I don't have
all the answers I made a commitment to
do my part in my personal life with when
I meet young brothers and sisters
especially ones with Talent who I I know
are on their way they're going to be
here regardless you know whether they
rock with me or not this is the space
that they're in I definitely try to make
sure that I pour into these brothers and
pour into these sisters and make sure
man that they doing this for the right
reasons take them on missions trips in
instead of just music tools and and make
sure that their mind is on Ministry so
making sure that theying of the Gospel
of Jesus Christ because first of all
have you even truly received it if you
don't know it how you know how how is
that possible um but also you sure can't
go around teaching something that you
yourself H haven't received you know I
love how Paul said it like yo we're not
out here preaching cleverly devised
myths you know what I'm saying we we we
we preach to you something that we
ourselves have already received and then
you see these brothers go on to not just
live for it but actually die for it as
well you know what I'm saying so I feel
like we um like what you're doing right
now you know is a part of that process
what I'm doing is a part of that process
we just need more of this you know what
I'm saying taking this next Generation
under our wing and being the father to
the fatherless you know what I'm saying
yeah I think it has something to do with
what Paul said um Power and
demonstration not with enticing words or
these you know what I'm saying the
wisdom of words or elegant words but
with power and and demonstration I like
the phrase I can show you better than I
can tell you you know what I'm saying
right up um so we do have a lot of
people in Ministry and and different
theologies are different man and and I I
personally think it it kind of It kind
of hinders people's Ministry but you
have you have these people who are just
like um they just want a decision who
wants to follow Jesus raise your hand if
you'll follow Jesus and that's it okay
we got a convert you're convert okay
we're going to start studying our Bible
and learning it I believe in the baptism
of fire man I believe that Christ you
know what I'm saying talked about this
other baptism you know I'm saying the
baptism into our death or you know I'm
saying the baptism of water but this
other baptism of of of the Holy Spirit
and Fire Man and I think that for us to
see true true Ministry whether we're a
part of a local Body of Christ or we're
in in the in the streets doing it
whatever I think we need that baptism of
fire man are you are you seeing that in
your ministry as well well is there like
like you know what I'm saying these
these people who are who are doing that
as well who are coming to Faith and then
having an encounter with the Living God
versus a decision I think I think it it
it it over yeah it happens over a
process of time you know what I'm saying
I mean the before the apostles
experienced that baptism they they were
they had been walking with Jesus sitting
under the teachings of Christ they they
they were
me so um
sometime because that really changed
everything for me and even there was
certain addictions and struggles that I
had my whole life that didn't even stop
and or I'd never really gained any any
ground with until I I I got baptized
with the Holy Spirit you feel what I'm
saying
um but even before that like you know I
was pursuing God and and I I was seeking
you know what I'm saying um to follow
the teachings of Christ and stuff and I
think that we just have to be careful
that we um we don't put like a cookie
cutter mold on everybody and say oh well
because it happened for me in two weeks
if it doesn't happen for you in two
weeks your conversion wasn't genuine
yeah you know what I'm saying but I
definitely do agree with you in terms of
that at some point it will happen if
You' TR truly um you know what I'm
saying receive Christ
um and and I believe that's what why
discipleship the discipleship process is
so important is because it's within that
discipleship process that we see a
person kind of receive that you know
what I'm saying so I do agree with you
that certain people's uh theologies
might hinder them in these areas and
stuff like that and I believe that God
is he's a master homie at laying to
waste bad theology you know what I'm
saying um and he's also the one that
permits it at times you know to exist
you know people have certain ideas about
certain things because there are certain
things that God has chosen to keep
hidden for a time and a season that are
yet to be revealed you know what I'm
saying so I believe that like you said
bro and I try to do the same thing we're
out here to demonstrate God we ain't
here just to talk about him you know
what I'm saying we're out here to
demonstr him not not just in in teaching
of the word but also in power yeah you
know what I'm saying also also in
conviction um but also in love in the
power of love you know what I'm saying
because love is is so miscommunicated
and it's been so perverted as far as the
image of what you think when you when
you think of love it's this soft timid
kind of punk thing when really bro true
love is one of the most aggressive and
and and masculine you know what I'm
saying things that you can walk in and
um I believe that the Lord that's one
thing that the Lord is really bringing
back um to the Forefront right now
especially in the body of Christ is the
the um the war mentality that comes with
a man who's walking in love you know
what I'm saying the Warrior's mind yeah
I I I've seen that time and time again
with the difference between and and
there was a term that came to my um mind
earlier I was just thinking about this I
don't know if I'm going to do a video on
it or not but a term between um my
church brothers and my brothers in
Christ you know how like when you go to
you go to you go to a church everybody's
your brother hey I love you brother
shake hands you dap it up whatever and
you know you go to the same church and
you always shake that same person's hand
it's like part of the routine but then
like as a baby Christian you kind of
think that that's that's your church
family you know what I'm saying like
those are my brothers in Christ but
there are people there who will stick
with you closer than a brother um
because there there's this whole
dichotomy of like if I was to tell some
of those people people or the even the
pastor you know what I'm saying tell
them some stuff that goes on in my head
thoughts that I've I've had struggles
I've had a lot of them they'll cut the
cord look we got to get rid of this dude
this dude is shot out this dude is crazy
right um but there's that fake you know
and then and then you know whenever you
show that vulnerable side of you then
they drop you and they cut you loose and
or your theologies or you know what I'm
saying even the theology oh you believe
in that oh we can't deal with you
whatever the case is I've seen it many
of times um but then on the other side
when you find the true brothers in
Christ those dudes who were down to get
into the nitty-gritty with you and they
don't give a damn what you tell them
they're your they're your family like I
don't man I've had phone calls with
dudes and I've told I've told people
stuff thinking that this would be the
last phone call I've had with them and
they're down with me and they're like
you know what man we're going to pray
together I got you whatever the case is
and man it's it's totally it's a night
and day thing versus like the the the
cookie cutter fake family which but when
you're in it you kind of think that
those are your your your people um yeah
man but there's so much more there for
anybody who's listening man who you feel
alone in in in these situations man just
know that there's people out there who
care about you who won't disown you
because you're different because you
believe something different or or you've
experienced something man just know that
love yeah and that needs to be said man
for anybody out there let me tell you
something and this is coming from
somebody who looked for fellowship and
Community I mean I mean you know I'm I
was a California gang member you know
what I'm saying and and active
one that and and I've I've laid my life
on the line you know what I'm saying
many times I I was willing to give my
life and take life you know what I'm
saying for the fellowship uhuh that I
was involved in the perer the perversion
of Fellowship you know what I'm saying
that these street gangs you know offer
and um let me tell you guys something
man as as somebody who's over here on
this side and has been transformed by
the love and the blood of Christ man and
and is now actively involved in not just
um being a a member of the of the true
church the True Body of Christ but
actually actively involved in in seeing
its expansion yo what you looking for in
terms of True Fellowship is here you
know I'm saying in the true version of
the church you feel me it's here you
know um it don't get no real the love
don't get no real than over here like
you said bro I got I got brothers that I
know that that um go to church and then
I got my brothers in Christ and my
brothers in Christ homie you know we
ride with each other to the death and we
you know we have this I have this thing
with my brothers as long as you down
with Christ I'm down with you you feel
me there there that's the only thing
that will cause me to break fellowship
with a person because Christ is my first
love you know what I'm saying so at the
end of the day if you stand against him
you stand you know I got to stand
against you but as long as you rocking
with him it doesn't matter what you've
done because we've all done something
you know what I'm saying um so that's
what sin is what we have
in you know what I'm
saying so so is it in the areas of your
mistakes you know I might not be able to
mistakes bro because I've messed up too
you feel me so um you know we're here to
help each
um pursue Christ together you know I
need the accountability I need the
fellowship just as much as my brothers
do and we really love each other from
that place man and we try to help each
other we we get involved you know your
wife is my sister you know y your kids
is my nieces and my nephews man you know
what I'm saying and so we really hold
each other accountable to that level
imagine where our culture and our
society would be you know what I'm
saying if we really had that out here
you know what I'm saying if it wasn't oh
I'm rocking with you whe you're right or
whether you're wrong it's like no bro
I'm rocking with what's right and if
you're wrong then I'm going to challenge
you on that and that needs to stop if
you're going to remain in fellowship
with us you know what I'm saying like
that that's necessary homie and that's
what you see in the original church but
a lot of that's being lost now and and
you have it to where love has become so
perverted that because people love men
more than they love God and the Bible
says that you know people will become
lovers of themselves you know what I'm
saying and so now it's like if you
challenge
somebody um to to to to walk more Godly
somehow I'm not loving this person like
no bro it's because I love you homie I
got to challenge you in this area
because I don't want to see you
destroyed and I sure don't want to see
you um doing any harm to the body of
Christ as well because of your Reckless
or selfish actions you know what I'm
saying but I also um you know have to
hold myself to the same standard so you
know um man I I encourage people man you
know tasting see that the Lord is good
and taste and see that the church is
good you know what I'm saying but don't
come into this thing like I did don't
come into this thing expecting
Perfection you know what I'm saying
Christ is perfect god is perfect but his
people be messing up sometimes you feel
me um but I mean let's keep it real
bro we we didn't like a gang of stuff
was fake and and or or we experienced a
lot of people making a lot of mistakes
in a lot of areas of our life that we
still run to you know what I'm saying
like I tell my homies in the street all
the time like they like oh I ain't
trying to go to church it's it's fake
there like what you mean bro you in the
street all the time and half these dudes
just telling you know what I'm saying so
you ain't got no problem with fake you
got a problem with God you know I'm say
like so um you know um you know I just
and a lot of it is is is to it's it's
from uh um a lot of prejudices and and
things it's kind of like people are told
that it's a certain way over here but
they haven't really ever experienced
this for themselves you know what I'm
saying um and and I think especially
with our fellowship a lot of brothers
come into it and they're like yo bro I
never knew there was nothing like this
you know what I'm saying like I if I had
known this I'd have came along time ago
and that's the thing we just trying to
let people know man is is when you meet
a True Fellowship of Believers man it's
nothing like it it's going to challenge
you but but we here for you you know
what I'm saying and God does the work
man he he he'll produce in you changes
that he wants to see our job is just to
pursue him you feel me yeah I totally
agree 100% man this like the
camaraderie is is there and it may not
be a big group of people it may not be
the big hog mob numbers hundreds and
thousands of people who are down the
ride it may just be two or three people
man who you br we don't we don't got we
don't got thousands of people down the
ride let me tell you m it's it's like
you know it's I'm going to keep it
realing this is no disrespect to anybody
who supports Ministry but but this is
the reality right even Christ he had
three to 5 thousand people following him
around everywhere he went at times you
know but at the end of the day okay he
had his 12 yeah and then he had his
three but at the end of the day bro it
was only one dude that was with him when
he was hanging on that cross yeah you
know what I'm saying and it was nobody
in that tomb with him you feel me like
so uh you know you it's kind of I look I
liken it to like a sports team you know
you got
the owners you got the players and then
you got fans you know and the fans are
just as important to the to the
organization because they're the ones
that that support it and they get out
there and and and and they they they
they they financially support the
movement you feel me they spread the
word and they do all of these things so
they're a part of the organization but
then you got people who actually bleed
you know what I'm saying for it every
Sunday every Thursday night you know
what I'm saying and and those are the
brothers that you might see me rocking
with more is the brother because we
really out here in the field but then
when it comes time to make executive
decisions all the players don't get to
come into that office you know what I'm
saying yeah so your your numbers the
numbers don't matter because at the end
of the day God In the Flesh Jesus Christ
at the end of his life he only had 120
people rock with him so even by worldly
standards the world and even by most
Church standards
they would look at Christ numbers and
say he was a failure in
Ministry but those 120 people who like
you said went on to be baptized in
fire because of the work they put in
brought the Roman Empire to its knees
yeah for a se you feel me so it's not
about how many people you got rocking
with you it's about the authenticity of
the people you got rocking with you the
spirit of the people that you got
rocking with you you know what I'm
saying and and um that's what God can
can use you know so I'm not that's why
I'm not one for the numbers bro I'll
take quality over quantity any day bro
especially when it come Fellowship you
know definitely definitely um let's talk
a little bit about the the whole system
that's built upon at you know that we
call church it's not church so I think
we discussed that at the beginning but
there's a system in place right and it's
a it's a business as well and and and
most of them are ran as a business
and I've seen in in my own life and in
many other young people who who are
raised up too I've seen many young
people uh give their life to the Lord
God changed them in an instant fill them
with his fire and they have an encounter
with God and then they start going to a
church and people are coming to them for
prayer because when they pray things
happen um bondages are broken people are
are are filled with that same fire and
that same presence it just radiates off
of that person cuz they spend time with
the father and you can tell you'll go to
these different churches and and there's
those people who you know spend intimate
time with Jesus and a lot of times these
are young people and I've seen many
cases
that you know these people end up being
a threat to that system where we have
this system built that the pastor has
the answers that the pastor is the one
who lays on the hands or or you know we
may give you permission at the to call
to lay on hands or whatever but it
starts like deviating the the the power
starts being taken away from the the
pastor a little bit or something right
and that person becomes a threat to that
system or to that business um and and
that person begins to have a Target on
their back that young person who would
just come to the Lord filled with the
fire of God and they don't know anything
they're just they just love Jesus man
and they have a Target on their back
simply because they now possess what the
pastor used to have man what what kind
and there's tons of people like that t i
get messages and I'm sure you do too
where these these people are out there
and then you know they don't know what
to do they they're shunned they're they
you know there's a new term that I that
I found out um I called it
excommunication but we don't really you
know practice that term too much anymore
right oh yeah he was excommunicated we
the Christian Church really don't deal
with that but there's a new term a Blog
I found they call it ghosting where you
just they just break Fellowship they
don't even tell you they just quit
calling you they quit talking to you
they talk behind your back and there's a
term called ghosting and that's what
they're calling it now talk a little bit
about that man like have you seen I'm
sure you've seen that in your own life
going into these these structures man um
yeah I mean I've and you know I'm I'm
I'm all about being fair you know I I've
seen it uh I've seen it happen and I've
also been embraced and I've had people
pour into me and want to see that gift
um you know what I'm saying even matured
so you know and by church people in
churches in leadership I mean you know
I've had I've had great experiences um
dealing with people who profess Christ
and I've had terrible experiences you
know what I'm saying so I just want to
be fair to the other side of things too
but absolutely homie I've I've been
shunned excommunicated and
ghosted um you know what man I think at
this point
um how could I like how do I expect to
look like
Christ yet not get treated how he get
treated you know what I'm saying like
really bro what's helped me deal with a
lot of these things is studying the life
of christen because when I'm able to
study the Life of Christ and see what he
went through and then also study a lot
of the New Testament where it's talks
about yo what he went through is
guaranteed to you yeah like you're to
suffer these things you're going to go
through these things if you're truly
following him if you because the world's
relationship with Jesus has never
changed yeah you know what I'm saying so
it's not like they're cool with him now
you feel me so as much what they did to
him before they gonna do to anything
that reminds him now you know I I have
like a little joke thing that I say but
it's like you know the world is like a a
ratchet baby mama you feel me she's
gonna um she's gonna abuse us because we
look like our father oh man you know
what I'm saying yeah she has a bad
relationship with our father and she's
gonna abuse his children because they
remind her of him you feel me um and so
these are things I think I think what
needs to happen more is there needs to
be a greater level of Education to new
converts about what to expect in terms
of the persecution that is not only
guaranteed to you but God actually said
that it is his will that we suffer these
things because these things perfect us
into the image of Christ you see what
I'm saying we're supposed to look like
Christ how do you look like Christ if
you've never been persecuted and had to
love your enemies and pray for those who
despitefully use you how can you ever
exemplify that if nobody's ever
persecuted you or despitefully used you
yeah you feel me so I think that when
you have a a mature understanding of the
purpose of these things it helps you to
be able to go through them in a
righteous fashion and not become Church
hurt and bitter and angry and F the
church and I'm not dealing with that no
more it's like no bro yeah you you
definitely probably need to find you a
more healthy Fellowship you know what
I'm saying but you don't allow this to
affect your heart because ultimately
that's what the enemy is after he's
after your heart because if he can
Harden your heart he's already destroyed
your witness and your ministry is soon
to follow yeah you know what I'm saying
I wish that when we're baby Christians
even now maybe maybe we need to you know
create this but I I wish that uh those
Bible promis books that we used to get I
used to have I used to keep them in my
back pocket and I pull it out and you
just go to the situation of what you're
dealing with and there's scriptures on
it and there's Promises of God you know
what I'm saying that that you know what
I'm saying you're going to be more than
a conqueror that you're the head and not
the tail all these different situations
but I wish there was a a portion that
would tell you about the promises of
persecution like that is promise those
are the Promises of God you will you
know scripture like look look even a
scripture like okay you're more than a
conqueror you you know what it reminds
me of is when when a brother gets
married and they say you know for better
or worse for rich or for poor you know
know what I'm saying in sickness or
health well all you hear as a as a
carnal man you know we here for better
for Rich and in health yeah like we
don't hear the it's almost like those
things don't even really register to us
and we agree to it like yeah yeah yeah
for sure but we not thinking about the
worst we not thinking about the poor
we're not thinking about the moments of
sickness that we're going to have to
endure with this person we're just
thinking about the benefits so when you
hear a scripture that says yo you're
more than a
conqueror we only hear the good side of
that scripture but what we're not
realizing is why would God have to feel
the need to tell us that yeah and remind
us of the fact that we're more than
conquerors unless we were going to be in
a war yeah you feel what I'm saying
those are scriptures about war
Warfare you know you're the head and not
the tail well why would God need to tell
me that unless I got a bunch of people
who are out here probably going to be
trying to convince me that I'm the tail
yeah you see what I'm saying so that's
what I mean when I say I don't I don't
think that it's that there's not a lot
of scriptures dealing with it because
there's plenty I think that there is
definitely a lack of education but I
think even in our own perspective when
we look at scripture we have a tendency
not to see it for what it's really
trying to say because we came into this
with our own
misconception about what Christianity
was supposed to look like I know I did
you know what I'm saying I didn't know
necessarily that I was signing up for
war you know what I'm saying and yes the
battle in eternity has already been won
but I have been given a call to duty and
an assignment and a deployment that I
have to be faithful to and and and walk
out and I still have to fulfill you know
what I'm saying the mission that God has
put me on um in this space and in time
you know saying so um definitely bro I
think that would be a great topic even
for your show you know I see you
obviously have a passion for these
things you know what I'm saying um might
want to put together a whole study on
just how all the scriptures you know
what I'm saying that promis the the
believer not only persecution but also
the the greater promises that God will
see us through it you know I'm saying
and that's what we got to hold on to
yeah I mean that's I mean that's the
whole thing too man but like whenever
you're going through the persecution or
you're going through the doubt and the
um Dark Knight of the soul and all of
these questions and stuff and you've
been being treated like uh you know I'm
saying a second class Citizen and you
don't belong and nothing's lining up
like when we're going through it we get
upset we we're asking God to take us out
of it but it's in all of those those
moments man those those dark places that
we've been through um whether we're you
know we're we're spiritually being
attacked by principalities and demons
and stuff it's in those moments that
we're taught man we're taught about the
darkness and and and unless we've been
through those those dark times we don't
have a contrast for the glory of God and
for Christ's uh work in our lives like
we don't have nothing to contrast it
against so now I'm thankful and I
wouldn't take back none of it and when
it happens now that I'm more seasoned I
can see the hand of God and what he's
doing in my life and I know how to
respond to the testing and I see what
he's trying to put in me and and it's
and and that's where a character is
built in in the life of every believer
that's scriptural uh you know what I'm
saying testing perseverance and I I've
even heard it being said on on some
other podcast and stuff they're talking
about how people who were just kind of
like giving life on a Golden Spoon or
you know what I'm saying um silver spoon
and they've got everything handed to
them and and they're they're kind of
jerks man they don't really you know
what I'm saying value anything
everything's given to them they never
had to work for anything but the
interesting people people the the people
who are are funny the people who have a
story to tell the the people um who who
are just you know what I'm saying more
fun to be around are the people who who
have had a shitty upbringing who've had
the dysfunctional home the parents
fighting yeah they ran away like all
they have these stories it it it it
produces in them something that makes
them seem like better friends somebody
who's just there man and this is even
coming from the secular world where
where they're talking about so the the
um resistance applies in every aspect of
Our Lives when you when you find that
resistance you look at everybody in the
Bible what happened to them is going to
happen to you but it's a beautiful thing
because from that resistance they were
able once once it broke they were able
to Spring forth and go into the calling
that God had for their life to go into
the promised land to Def to defeat their
Giants and and all of this man so the
resistance is is is beautiful it really
is the darkness that we that we go
through
I'm telling you man see what God is
trying to teach you in in these Seasons
man we got to learn the lessons yeah
know the the the type of people who
don't appreciate resistance are the type
of people who are looking for Comfort
true um but the people who appreciate
resistance are the people who are
looking for growth um I'll use an
example like me right I'm I'm on my way
soon as we get off here I'm going to go
meet the homies at the
gym now all I'm going to meet when I get
to the gym
is a bunch of resistance exactly you
know what I'm saying but I'm looking
forward to it my day around yeah you
know what I'm saying because I
understand the purpose of this
resistance and I'm looking forward to
the to there's a greater um Glory that
comes from after I persevere through the
resistance is that I get stronger you
dig what I'm saying and so that's the
thing even spiritually homie like more
so like the Bible says you know okay
it's it does a little profit for you to
you know EX exerc your body but how much
more to exercise your spirit you feel
what I'm saying and so I um I feel like
the problem is is that most of us are
complacent in where we're at in
Christ so we now we look at it as if we
not supposed to go through nothing else
like we like okay look man already
already went through I've ared yeah I've
arrived at what I have deemed from
myself to be a good level yeah but the
Bible says that even if you're producing
good fruit God himself is going to prune
you so that you can produce more yeah so
even though you've grown comfortable
where you're at God is not satisfied
with where you're at you feel what I'm
saying and so and and if and if doing
the will of your father is your true
priority which for every True Believer
that's what it should be then homie
you're going to look forward to these
opportunities that you have to walk in
the gospel that you have that you claim
you really about you feel me because an
offense ain't really nothing to a person
who's already got forgiveness on their
heart you know the the word forgiveness
means to forgive it's to give beforehand
so I'm I'm that's supposed to already be
there just like what Christ has for me
he died 2,000 years ago for things that
I'm still yet to do you feel me so when
I do them it's not that God has to find
it in his heart to forgive me no I fall
into the arms I fall into the arms of
forgiveness that were already
laid before me before I ever even made
that mistake and that's what we have to
have for one another bro you know what
I'm saying it's not that I got to find
forgiveness for you know I already had
it in place you're just creating a
scenario in which I get to activate the
Forgiveness that I already had for you
you feel what I'm saying so I feel like
that's where we need to just get but it
takes you know you we you only get these
things things from the spirit of God man
so we just got to keep pursuing the
spirit bro I I do have to go here pretty
soon bro so um I don't know you know how
yeah yeah man yeah yeah we'll definitely
go and wrap it up man but Ju Just just
to kind of tea off on that um that's why
the scripture says that there's no
condemnation for those who were in
Christ Jesus who walk not according to
the flesh but after the spirit so you
know what I'm saying when you know I'm
saying whenever you were wward you had
nothing to fall upon when whenever you
need when you needed forgiveness or you
had you had a rough day or a hard time
and didn't know how you were going to
get through now as a child of God we're
already forgiven and we fall upon the
grace and we fall upon the rock and
we're not Crush man so that that that
that's that goes a long way man as far
as helping us make it through it but um
yeah brother I I thank you for coming on
the show hanging out with me man and we
you know what I'm saying we finally able
to make this happen um yes sir before we
go man I'm going to ask you just to say
a prayer for those people that we've
mentioned man those people who are
looking for um a church body you know
what I'm saying they're they're they're
looking for accountability like true
accountability discipleship cuz I
believe that people who truly
desire discipleship that they're going
to find it um and and for those people
who were in in those churches and and
and and they just feel uncomfortable man
just give them some hope man say a
prayer for those people man just you
know what I'm saying just some hope
brother de Heavenly Father Lord God in
Jesus mighty name first of all Lord I
lift up um the non-believers Lord out
there um who have yet to be had their
faith awakened father God lord I ask
that you move upon them right now father
God they might have questions Lord and
and and they might have fears Lord God I
pray Lord that you be the answer to that
question right now father I pray that
you that their Spirit become awakened
Lord and and they be touched right now
where they're at in Jesus mighty name
father God lord I pray that they would
recognize that that they are sinners and
and and with without Christ they are
hopeless in judgment they will have to
pay for their own sins father God and
who can stand before a righteous judge
and have hope when he is guilty so
father God first of all Lord I just ask
that they would humble themselves Lord
before you and recognize that that they
have committed sin against you father
and the penalty of that sin is eternal
death Lord as it should be because you
are holy and who are we to to deny you
the
right the right Lord God that you have
to get from our lives what you deserve
who are we to tell you that we're going
to do whatever we want to do with the
life that you gave us the wickedness
involved in that thought process father
God it blows my mind and and I didn't
realize it when I was in it father God
and I'm sure there are people listening
to this they don't realize it so I pray
that you wake them up right now and they
would humble themselves and they would
repent not just apologize but they would
make a conscious decision Lord God to
turn from their
wickedness and to follow you because you
love them enough Lord to come and die on
the cross for their sins you shed blood
the Forgiveness that you have for us
Lord it it wasn't sheep it came at at
such a cost Lord God it cost you
suffering it it cost you a reputation
Lord God you you were you were
humiliated for us you let your own
Creations humiliate you Lord we will
never understand the level of love that
it took to do what you did Lord God but
father just pray that that we blind
their IDE be
removed because you didn't stay dead
Lord you demonstrated that you were
everything that you said that you were
when three days lat later you came out
of that grave and that tomb is empty to
this day and they can formulate whatever
conspiracy theories they want father God
but it takes more faith to believe that
nonsense than it does to really
understand that you came out of that
tomb with all power and you Reign and
you are
God and your name has power and it does
change and me and my brother sitting
right here having this conversation we
are just a couple of the evidences
father God of what you can do so we lift
them up to you Lord I also lift up my
brothers and sisters who are out there
Lord um kind of like a ship with no sale
right now father God they they do
believe in you and they do desire to go
deeper but they just don't know where to
go maybe they've been hurt maybe they've
been lied to maybe they've been taught
wrong and and by listening to this
interview they're realizing yo I'm not
being taught right father I pray that
they would reach out I pray that they'd
reach out to my brother that they would
reach out to me they can go to our
website hog mop.com and send us an email
Lord God and we will do our best to try
to help them but Lord I pray that they
really truly want what they're asking
for because True Discipleship comes with
a cost true to be a true disciple Lord
your word says we have to be willing to
give up
everything everything and the first
thing we have to be willing to give up
is our way of doing things and our way
of thinking of what's right and wrong we
have to be willing to surrender that
before you Lord God and and and
acknowledge you as Lord and and and
Sovereign authority over our life father
God God and that's the hard part
everybody loves the
savior they hated him when he said he
was Lord so Lord God I just I lift my
brothers and sisters up to you right now
father God and I pray that in these last
days you would encourage them you would
send a spirit to minister to them Lord
send them brothers and sisters just like
you did me I was out here alone Lord God
and I began to pray father God send me
some brothers and you did and you gave
me the boldness to start discipling
Brothers around me and now I have this
family of Fellowship Lord God but I had
to work for it and I had to labor for it
and I had to be willing to pour into
people Lord in order to build this
Fellowship father God it didn't come
cheap nothing worth having does Father
God so Lord I just lift these brothers
and sisters up to you father um and and
and I just pray Lord that that if
anybody out there needs healing of their
mind of of their body of their Broken
Heart Lord I know all these things too
well Lord but I also know what you can
do in the heart of a person who truly
stands before you broken and just ready
to surrender father and I pray that
somebody right here and right now is
doing that Lord I lift my brothers show
up to you father God I just pray that he
would continue to just keep it authentic
to the gospel um and that he would um
accurately reflect you you father God
with this platform that he has and he
would be a good Steward of it Lord and
as he does that Lord I pray that you
would Advance it and and and give him
the things that he needs father God and
I pray the same for our ministry Lord
protect us as we go out on this missions
trip Lord bring in the resources that we
need father God so we can do your will
once again in Jesus mighty name we pray
amen Amen brother I thank you man you
guys have you know what I'm saying you
guys have have a strong team brother
with you um just before you go really
quick there's people who have no idea
who you are um tell them a little bit
about what hog mob
means hogmob is a acronym it stands for
being hooked on God and keeping Ministry
over business H OGG m be you can get a
lot more information about us um go to
hogmob.com um we got all kinds of
information about the ministry um the
different Brothers involved um certain
parts of the website my boy is actually
helping us with right now they under
construction but um we definitely have a
lot of information on there we do right
now um I started a movement called pray
for my hood where we actually go out and
we target dangerous neighborhoods to
receive the Gospel and just to um you
know there's a lot of pain and a lot of
hurting that needs to be healed and so
we go out and try to assist with that
all over the country so we're in the
process right now of hitting about a
hundred Urban neighborhoods pretty soon
so you know we're obviously looking for
support when it comes to that and stuff
but yeah man look us up my name's s SCV
i n you know what I'm saying like I said
man a former loow life you know what I'm
saying from California man that that
that Jesus Christ has changed and
delivered man and and and I'm just here
to bang Christ until the day I die man
and U you know I don't know y'all but I
love y'all God loves y you feel me and
he put that love for you in me man so
you know if y'all need anything you know
whatever we can do we will do and if we
can't do nothing you know we we'll try
to direct you to somebody who can help
you better than we can but we try not to
turn nobody away you know unless they on
some nonsense and you know and this God
bless you you know what I'm saying
straight up all right brother thanks so
much for hanging out with me man we'll
get up soon for sure much love bro
brother peace peace
seven of hog mob Ministries
guys he's a good dude man um I built
this website actually I built all the
the underground Christian rappers the
guys who are kind of taking the range
now Pyrex seven um
illuminate
um hope be.net which is a big Christian
marketing website for Christian hip hop
and also um
Dante's website and these are all guys
who are all affiliated with with hog mob
um and I'll say this man
um I still
do have a bad taste in my mouth for
Christian rap for gospel rap I don't
really listen to too much of it anymore
I used to do gospel rap and that's
pretty much why cuz I used to do it and
I've seen The Good the Bad and the Ugly
and I've seen the cliches and I've seen
um I've seen way too much uh in these
churches and stuff like that so when it
comes to the Christian rap a lot of it's
corny a lot of it's unoriginal they try
to repeat rappers that they hear on the
radio so if Little Wayne's popular
you're going to hear these rappers
coming out sounded like little Wayne
Drake comes out with these little dances
where he puts his hand on his hip and
does these little dances and so now all
the Christian rappers are doing it
dancing up in the churches on stage and
it's just
GH it's nasty man I I've seen that I've
seen it hand first but when it comes to
seven and it comes to hog mob these
dudes are legit like this dude does it
with a passion does it full-time um he's
a real dude real dude um you know what
I'm saying he'll tell you like it is
I've dealt with too
many Christians in general but
definitely Christian rappers who um they
have to be politically correct even not
not in the the social mainstream but in
the church realm and so there's things
that you say and there's things that you
do in any click that's that that gets
you received and you know you're cool as
long as you you have the lingo and we
call it Christian e they speak with
Christian e and most people who are
outside of church culture will have no
idea what the hell people are talking
about speaking Christian e you know what
I'm saying um and Seven's a real dude
you're not you're not really going to
get that from him him even though we're
talking about Ministry we're talking
about the The Good the Bad and the Ugly
for what it is I think people need to
hear that people need to be encouraged
you know what I'm saying not to give up
and not to feel like they're alone in
the end um but seven his
music um they don't they don't get a lot
of love um from the the Christian
Community I think they're starting to
now more like I said earlier on cuz some
people have kind of moved off the way
some of the big mainstreamer Christian
rappers lrae and those guys are kind of
moved out the way so now hog mob Bizzle
you know these guys are now kind of
getting more of the Limelight and so
they're you know their their name um you
know brings numbers so these these other
people are wanting to have them on so
that's one thing that's going on but
seven illuminate Pyrex um these are all
genuine dudes Briant t uh I do enjoy
listening to their music um it it is
original it hasn't changed with the
times like they they don't do trap rap
they don't do uh Mumble rap you know
what I'm saying they haven't changed
because Mumble rap's popular now they do
the old school '90s influenced old
school but yet with the like the beats
and stuff are still current in up to
date so I do like their music um but
more since I know him as a person it
makes it gives me the story behind the
music you know um and just because I've
seen that in the in the Christian realm
like I've seen the good the bad the ugly
and it's kind of put a bad taste in my
mouth same thing has happened in in my
Arena now with with like the spiritual
hip hop um you know I still I still take
uh Christian terms and and uh Christian
um you know what I'm saying ideologies
and and I put them in my music and and
use metaphors and change the names and
stuff like that but it is hidden deep
within my music as well but in in the
spiritual Arena it's kind of been the
same thing I I've met some of the people
that I've looked up to um and had had
interactions with these people and it
put a bad taste in my mouth as well
there's people whose music man was like
phenomenal and still is as far as the
music goes but I met the people behind
it and their life does not reflect the
music at all like their life does not
reflect that music about meditation
prayer elevation um Ascension you know
what I'm saying like that's the stuff
they they rap about in their music cuz
they've studied it but they don't live
it and they're they're just regular
Street dudes and that's put a bad taste
in my mouth um from the spiritual
hip-hop community and you know I think
they tell you like that you shouldn't
want to meet the uh the people that you
look up to your Idols you shouldn't meet
your Idols cuz a lot of times you're let
down cuz you look up to these people
you're like oh man and you're looking
for this this experience with them when
when whenever you meet them and you hold
these guys on on these pedestals and
you're like man these are just regular
dudes from the hood that's what I found
out with with uh the spiritual hip-hop
Community as well and I think that's
what was key about what seven said at
the beginning is like he don't want to
have you know he CU he he knows his
flaws and he knows that he's he's a um
you know what I'm saying he's still
under construction right and we tend to
look up to people and put them on these
platforms and we think that they're more
spiritual than you know what I'm saying
than they really are I I get that and
when people meet me um you know they're
you know they expect me to only talk
about spiritual stuff and I don't even
talk about this stuff in public anymore
with people for real I only do this
stuff on podcasting and music I don't go
to places and and try to engage people
about spirituality like um but if people
want to talk about it I'm totally down
totally down when it comes to that but
people put you on a pedestal and they um
you know they they've created an idol in
their mind of of of who you are and it's
not real it's an image that's what
that's what Idols
are idolatry and so I've had to I've had
to feel the uh the good bad and the the
ugly and all the the push back from that
you know with showing you know what I'm
saying some showing who I am and not
being afraid of that cuz I We Are
Spiritual Beings I'm into spirituality
I'm also into a lot of other stuff too
um so that whole dichotomy for me was
really big and trying and just trying to
get over that of just being okay with
the public seeing
me and that's why you know this podcast
was called the myth's podcast it was
called encountering God podcast but
essentially I didn't want I didn't want
to call it the true s of podcast cuz I
didn't want to put too much of who I was
out there but I was like you know what I
need I'm not going to try to keep
branding all kind of of their names and
stuff what you see is what you get and
just like we were saying you have those
friends who are just down the rod man
those fans who were just like like yeah
we like the music but we like you as a
person you know what I'm saying we we're
fans of the music um and even Grim's in
the chat room and I'm going to hip Grim
up when I get off of here to get into
some gaming man me and my wife you know
what I'm saying and my daughter we all
we we all are big into gaming and I
remember showing that side and doing
some live streaming gaming and guys man
the hatred I got from some of my
fans when I was live streaming gaming
they're like turn the games off and work
on music we're ready for new music truth
Seeker turn the damn games off and it's
was like oh wow and it was a lot of
people oh these games aren't spiritual
they rot your brain all the games are
put here by the Illuminati to keep you
and just all this crazy stuff I'm like
man you guys had this crazy uh picture
of me of something like I'm meditating
all day and stuff um which I I do I do
meditate I need that stuff so all of
that's a part of me and uh and I'm not
I'm not afraid to you know what I'm
saying to be myself and just finally be
comfortable in my own skin and just to
be public with that you know what I'm
saying
so that's uh that's a whole lot of I'm
reading the comments now you guys are
awesome hey Chanel
Grim I and I what's up brother oh man so
that yeah that's it oh man I'm glad I
seen your comment so he says huge hog
mob so I have a confession to make man
about seven and about about you James um
and a lot of other people who are fans
of of Tru seeka now for some reason and
fans of hog mob and for some of you guys
there's a reason and James this is
definitely My Confession and I think I
might even told you this I I don't know
may maybe you never heard this but okay
so I had a page I had on on uh Facebook
I had my tra fan page right it's where
people who like my music they go like
the fan page and I had about 8,000 likes
at the time and then I had I had 5,000
likes on my I mean 5,000 friends on my
regular page and on my regular page I
was friends with seven I was friends
with all these uh rappers and and band
and uh you know people who are in bands
and stuff I was uh Tommy Green from um
Sleeping Giant Sunny Sand Deval from pod
Maddy Montgomery these were some of the
bigger names of people who early on on
fa when they first got on Facebook I
became friends with them and we'd have
conversations and they they answer me
back and we kind of built relationships
like that well I was friends with seven
as well and so I wanted to get rid of my
page because it was like a straight
Christian following because I was doing
gospel rap and once I started to to kind
of stray away from that I was like you
know what let me delete this page but
instead of deleting it Facebook has a
feature where you can take your regular
page and merge it to your fan page so I
went through that process and I did that
so it combined all of my regular
friends 5,000 friends
and and it showed that they liked TR
seeka and it gave me 5,000 uh more likes
on the TR seeka page and when I did that
if you was to go to Maddy Montgomery
Sunny sandal 7 if you go to their page
in the bottom left corner where it says
bands that they like or or artists that
they like it all said that they liked
true seea so instead of them being a fan
a friend of me they turned into being a
fan on on Facebook and I got a lot of
messages and James you're in the chat um
you messaged me because of that you told
me that you seen me I didn't know who
you were you was a huge seven fan and
you seen that seven like Tru Seeker
seven listen to Tru seeker and so you
hit me up you check me out and then I'm
spitting all this esoteric stuff all of
this spiritual stuff
and essentially I seen you
start to get into it like you would you
would call me and we'd have
conversations and You' pick my brain
about geometry about vibration about the
Bible and and where the stuff is in the
Bible and things like that and we'd have
phone conversations and I've seen you
morph into where like you're very well
studied on your spirituality now and how
it pertains to your life and it it uh
helps you man
so that was one thing about the seven
stuff I had a bunch of seven fans
hit me up because they're like oh seven
listens to this guy let me check him out
and so I guess that's a confession I
should have told seven I wanted to but
we we kind of went in a different
direction so maybe he'll go back and
listen to this or I'll get the chance to
talk to him again but I thought that was
funny man there was a lot of people who
hit me up fans of pod and they're like
yeah man I see I see pod listens to
truth Seeker let me check this guy out
so people who actually had a chance to
listen to my music and they became
became fans but that's how because they
found out that their favorite rapper or
their favorite band listened to tr seeka
which they really didn't right because I
combined the pages and it showed that I
did I thought that's a funny little
story and and James Harkness that's why
you're here man you know and I thought
that's just a funny story man um every
everything works together for a reason
though man God knows what he's doing I
didn't know that was going to happen
when I when I did that but it's pretty
funny so now um we're going to wrap the
show up all of you guys who have been
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benefit from it whether it was the
prayer at the end or some of the stuff
we're just talking about church culture
and some of the the different enigmas
that go on there and some of the stuff
we don't understand and just really what
church is like in general like we've got
a crazy misconception of what church is
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benefit from this episode and so I've
been staying busy with this stuff man
putting out a lot of episodes I think I
may I think I may do another episode
tomorrow just doing another uh solo
episode doing a breakdown on song lyrics
and just going into um the meaning
behind some of the cryptic messages that
is throughout true Stick Of Music so if
you guys have a song that you want to
hear me break down like some lyrics that
that intrigue you the most send me a
message send me an email uh you can get
in contact with me on all social media
Outlets um let me know what song you
want me to break down because I got a
bunch of them and uh I may move it to
the front of the list so I'm going to do
that um I just I did that for the first
time I was kind of nervous to see if I
can
hold attention for you know a full song
I didn't know how long it was going to
take I talked for an hour and 45 minutes
by myself and I was so parched at the
end end of that episode and uh but I
think it went really well man there's a
cuz I was talking to a guy today A
friend of mine and he he said yeah man
we get I get messages from people and
they said yeah man I I love your music
but Tru Seeker man I I I love his his
flow I love his rhyme scheme and stuff
but I have no idea what the hell he's
talking about what is he what does he
mean when he's talking about the
Kundalini and uh you know what I'm
saying the spiritual ecstatic
experiences and um you know what I'm
saying vibration from the force feeling
my mind and my body divorce you know
what I'm saying what does he mean by
that
stuff and so people even Jamie Ruckman
he's commenting right now in in the chat
room Jamie rutan's like dude I have no
idea what you're talking about Jamie's
like dude I love your music it's awesome
you're rap fast I really love the
rhyming schemes but I have no idea what
you're talking about so that's what's
cool about doing the the the actual
breakdowns so that I can uh I can kind
of give you the meanings of of some of
the things and kind of turn it into a
teaching because some of those phrases
and stuff are brand new for a lot of
people they've never heard of some of
that stuff I mentioned the Book of Enoch
something that is very um Elementary to
me like in in in my Awakening like that
book came with it um so I'll go into
detail about the Book of Enoch and maybe
it'll uh pique your interest to actually
pick that book up and read or uh secret
teachings of all ages Manley P hall and
and and just tell you what the song
titles the phrases what they mean to me
how I came up with them and my meanings
behind them like I said it's also
beautiful that people listen and they
come up with their own um ideas about
what I'm talking about or what the song
means to them that's beautiful as well
but for me to actually sit down and
break the lyrics down man it just paints
a whole new picture and basically turns
into a freaking sermon or something
right just breaking down all of this cuz
I cram so much in into the music and
like bar bar for bar line for line I may
be talking about meeting an Angel um
that was made of golden light in the
next bar I'm talking about uh mystical
experiences like Joe Rogan you know who
is Joe Rogan you know how does he have
mystical experiences and how does it
relate to truth Seeker right so I kind
of go into detail about all that stuff
so if there is a song you want to hear
me break down let me know I'll push it
to the the front of the list
Jamie Ran's commenting in the in the
chat room he says he's laughing he says
mushrooms LOL that's a scary thought in
my
head it hey man this should be a healthy
fear of mushrooms man it should be a
healthy fear of mushrooms and and
respect them for anybody I I do not
recommend doing mushrooms as a as a
party drug or at a party uh I I respect
them it's a Sacrament and uh very
special to me very near and dear to me
and uh that's what the golden teachers
the song golden teachers essentially is
about and um actually speaking of golden
teachers I just released my t-shirts
again I found somebody who can print
t-shirts up for a decent price and you
can go to tr.com and I just put the
golden teachers up before that we went
live so I got a a t-shirt with a an
Angelic being that I think depicts the
the golden teachers man and it says
golden teachers so uh check it out okay
Grim says he has a giant one right here
you have a giant golden teacher right
there in front of you that's what's up
man get in there man see what the uh
Universe has to teach you man I believe
those I believe those golden teachers
man are Angelic beings dude I really do
and uh it's a when you go into those
Realms with the golden teachers with the
the the psilocybin Sacrament man you're
you're being led
by a Consciousness um an Angelic force
that that communicates with you and uh
it's beautiful it is Beau it's not
demonic it's not it is scary because
it's a new place right you go to a new
place you don't really know how things
operate and the laws change there the
laws of physics actually changed there
too and what you know what is real and
stuff but there there's a Consciousness
there communicating with you letting you
know that everything's okay I got you
and I got a couple of things I want to
show you
and uh that's when things changed for me
that's when all my music became real to
me like man and I've talked about it
before and I'll probably talk about it
when I break down this golden teacher
song and I may do that tomorrow but
that's when that stuff became real to me
is like because I've wrapped about
seeing heaven and I I like wrapped about
all of my spiritual encounters up to
having
sosyan um sacrament
and they're all beautiful they're about
traveling to heaven looking gazing into
heaven uh the gates of Orion look
peering into eternity things like this
and these are these are things that I've
done man beautiful encounters that I've
had that I've tried to uh poetically
recreate them for the listener right and
to kind of almost set it like a monument
you know in in in the scriptures when
the Israelites uh achieved the victory
or something happened something
Monumental happened happened they made a
monument they took rocks and and built a
little structure out of rocks and so
every time that they came to that place
they would be reminded of that Victory
or that promise of from God every time
they seen that monument and they would
have them everywhere man and
so um the siloc cybin was Monumental for
me in in my my my music and um it's just
it's it's it's living in my music like
those encounters are living in my music
now so when I listen to
it I'm taking back there are songs that
I will not listen to unless I'm ready to
be taken back right now and I've talked
about this on Kelly and the r he El's
listening
um you know the song Good For Me by
um um above and beyond like that
song triggers we like that word now
right triggered but listening to that
song man man and and all my friends
who've been with me when they hear that
song they just immediately taken back to
that realm and taken back to that that
that point in time where where we
encountered the golden teachers so I'll
probably be talking about this tomorrow
and try to go into more detail about
those lyrics and and my encounters
and looking it's about that time that's
all I'm going to say it's about that
time for another one so it's time for a
reset button you know it's awesome that
that we have that button
I'm just reading the comments here I
know it's not good for audio but um I
want to thank you guys for hanging out
with me listening hope you guys enjoyed
it I'm going to try to edit this out a
little bit for the the podcast version
because there was some internet uh blips
there on his end but thank you guys and
if you want to support what I'm doing
and you want to get new music I'm
telling you guys I got new music on the
patreon and a lot of you guys who are in
the chat room right now you guys are
members over there and you guys are
helping me support uh my my music
addiction and so creating new music and
um I got like three other new songs that
I'm about to put up they're in the works
we're trying to finish them up um those
and so what's going on over there is
that as soon as I finish a song I'm I'm
steadily working on music as soon as I
finish a song that it's like you know
what okay that's going to go on the
album I'll upload it to patreon
and that's only for the hardcore
supporters like I say hardcore it's like
you know what I'm saying anywhere from a
dollar to like $10 $25 a month um but
you guys get first dibs over there and
and there's stuff that's uploaded there
that's going to be there months before
it's going to appear on the album so for
those you guys who are inboxing me and
begging me for new music and you want to
hear new music patreon.com truer there's
like seven songs up there I'm about to
put three more up there's some some of
watchman's Music leaked over there that
we're about to get ready to release
um so yeah that helps me so much with
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all this beautiful equipment this
microphone uh the storage on Lipson to
actually be on iTunes and things like
that it cost money to do that stuff and
uh patreon is the perfect model for you
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and independent podcasters man there's
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and get EX exclusive content so with
that I'm G say peace and shalom shalom I
really enjoyed this episode um and I'll
be doing it again tomorrow we got some
awesome shows if you guys haven't looked
through the back catalog you got to go
look man I just interviewed Mar Margaret
perin the god Warrior from ABC's trading
spouses like come on man you guys got to
go back and listen to some of these
shows man Mary
Rodwell and it's an Eclectic group of
people here guys and it's so awesome
that you guys rock with me because I do
get those messages man even on patreon I
get those messages where people and
you're probably listen now I'm not going
to say your name but I I get messages
from people who say you know what I
can't support this anymore uh that lady
who you had on um talking about aliens
and all this I can't support it I'm
gonna I'm done I can only support
Christian stuff it's like well we're
about to interview seven from hog mob so
it's a it's an Eclectic uh eclectic
group of people that we have on here and
part of it is just being me I'm a little
bit of all of it you're going to get a
little bit of you're going to get the
aliens you're going to get Jesus you're
going to get um ascended masters you're
going to get Kundalini Awakening you're
going to get
spirituality you're going to get music
you're going to get all of it on here
man so if you guys are still listening
at this
point there I think I think I think I
hit a nerve there's something there that
you guys like and so we have a common
interest here and and even if it's just
even like for you Chanel just wanting to
get to the bottom of spirituality and
who's telling the truth and who's making
this [Â __Â ] up as they go along right
who's making this [Â __Â ] up and and and
they're doing it and in every single uh
facet there's people in the Christian
circles who are in in the spiritual
Christian circles who are making it up
as they go in the New Age circles and
the in the UFO euphology circles there's
people making it up and um that that's
one thing that I want I want to be true
to that everything I put in my music
everything that I talk about uh whether
it sounds more poetic or it sounds more
interesting than it really was there's a
lot of that you know some of that stuff
sounds way more interesting I take
something as simple as prayer and make
it sound so deep and esoteric and and
spiritual when it really is it's
powerful prayer is powerful meditation
sitting in silence is super
powerful but I'll take something so
simple and make it sound so beautiful
and so intricate and then I'll take
something so intricate and something so
far out there and make it sound so
nonchalant like just every day we do it
every day you know and that's part of
the art form in the music and what I've
kind of built my albums around my
ecstatic experiences and just making it
plain so I love each and every one of
you guys and um we're all part of a
family and
um I know you guys see yourself in my
story and just as I see myself in you
guys um even the guests I interview like
I I truly believe that what I've taken
to biblically is uh the Apostle Paul
says that I have come I've become all
things to all men so that I might win
some and I'll rock with anybody man and
I get I get judged I get I get um
persecuted it's it's nothing the joy is
so much more um worth it than the the
persecution or the the backlash so um
thanks for rocking with me guys just G
to let you guys know what it means to me
so you guys are awesome
cheer up love y'all see you next
time peace