Aligning With The Divine | Chantelle Rene
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Chantel Renee Intel welcome to the
podcast how are you I'm great thanks for
having me
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thank you for having me my pleasure I
guess a good place to start let's hear a
little bit about your background and
what you bring to the table and and some
of the work that you do and then we'll
just take it from there
okay well like you I'm a truth seeker
I'm as far back as I can remember as a
child I was just always in my inner
world communicating with creation God
whatever you want to call it so as a
child I was just always pondering about
creation and just lost in my own mind
with that so the journey started for me
very early I was the only child and we
moved a lot so but the inner world and
inner realms felt more real and solid to
me than the outer room so that was kind
of where it all started for me but over
the course of my life I just I've been
dedicated to raising a family
I've been married 18 years and just
recently I've you know surrender to what
I know I'm here to do on the planet
right now it's just to be in service of
others ascension to help them along so I
just released a book aligning with the
divine and I'm really passionate about
merging science and spirituality
together because it brings the left
brain and the right brain into harmony
so that we can just embrace more a
little easier easier I guess you could
say I've always had a great fascination
with like cymatics frequencies and
sounds and so I tried to do my best to
keep this book simplified for everybody
but also give them practical tools to
challenge their limiting beliefs how to
guide their emotions so there's a lot of
information in this book that came
through me I really can't take credit
for you know just being the only one I
think that it you know was guided and I
was just a vehicle for it to come
through so the book was something I
didn't really see coming I just kind of
surrendered into the process of what I
was being guided to do and then so on
the personal work side I do spiritual
counseling and hypnosis and hypnotherapy
past life regression work is extremely
powerful for people to step into their
inner healer and you know step into
their powers so I absolutely love that
work and that's kind of briefly what I
what I do awesome let me ask you this
I'm ask you this question
um you said that you moved around a lot
when you were growing up did you have a
mom and dad there in your life in your
job yes yeah my friends were teenagers
when they had me and my dad just moved
like look I don't think I was like 32
schools I went to well yeah and I was an
only child but I really now reflecting
back see how much I actually served me
because it kept me really in constant
communion with the divine I mean I don't
know what you use to describe it's kind
of indescribable you know all that is
and that just felt so safe and so secure
to me but I you know it was always
inside like in my inner world you're
saying so I it wasn't bad I think but
when I was moving a lot it was hard for
sure yeah that's it I mean that's why I
was asking because like a lot of people
who were into spiritual work or people
who were empathic like they've had like
a harsh upbringing right or they didn't
fit in so they drew themselves away
whether it's two books whether it is to
mysticism movies you know that speak
about this kind of stuff or whatever and
it just seems like there's a common
thread there for people who had like an
unstable upbringing I myself you know
would go to a school for two months and
then go to another school for three
months and then go back to the same
school you know too much later and I was
always moving around myself and I just
kind of see myself one who you know
what's fascinated in something that
never changed which is the spirit realm
which is God or spirit of source or
whatever the case is everything else was
like failing and unstable around you but
that truth that dimension is always
there in constant right mm-hmm
no absolutely and I realized there was a
very specific moment when I was probably
I don't know I grew up in the South like
Georgia Florida Texas and there was this
moment where I walked in I was fishing
with my dad and we went to this bait
shop and I there was this big sign and
it said if you're black don't let the
Sun Shine on your back
and I just I remember it like hurting my
heart because of the hatred just on that
sign you know so I kind of I think I've
always known that we were really
ignorant of our are are more
similarities than I mean how can you
judge somebody based on skin color I've
just never been able to wrap my mind
around that yeah so and being in the
South was hard because there was a lot
of that ignorance going on and you know
just judgment and you know so that was
difficult cuz I had definitely an empath
and it was that was hard for me it's
being around racism yeah I've definitely
had to deal with that as well as one
doing who you know I'm saying hip hop
I'm from the south as well so being like
a lot of times the only white guy in the
buncher but you know doing rap groups
and and even schools or whatever the
case is having to deal with that and
that's always been something I've never
been able to see you know I never been
able to see color I always judge the
person's character and that's something
that kind of comes through as well we've
had to deal with that here in the South
it's insane I think it's getting better
though some people are still trying to
trying to hang on to that it's kind of
weird at this point you know I see to
see this generation trying to hang on to
that it's so far out the window but yeah
just be an empathic man just just being
with the people who are oppressed being
with the people who are hurting who are
struggling and those are you know they I
think in the end they really do have the
coolest stories and they are the coolest
people man people that that have been
through some type of struggle right and
so that's that's something that's really
cool to think about coming from the
south I want to ask you this because I
was I was looking through your book and
it was funny too as I was reading
reading it and I was sharing out on the
discord who I was interviewing today and
a bunch of the people went over there
and checked out your website read the
synopsis of the book and immediately
bought it without even here in the
interview they just went over there
bought the book it's like I need this in
my life so shout out to those people who
did that and everybody make sure you go
over there and support her work as well
but I wanted to talk to you about this
idea there's just something that I've
dealt with in my life personally and
then again I have friends who are kind
of caught up in this cycle cycle as well
but
one of the things in your book you say
that you kind of help people deal with
our breaking the cycle of self-sabotage
patterns and that that could be really
devastating if you're building something
up if it's a life's dream a goal if
you're headed down a path and you just
like do one thing that just tears it all
up or just pulls the platform out from
up under everything that you've been
building upon I've done it on many
occasions and if you're not careful you
can keep doing it right I have friends
who have done it and they've you know
made a lot of people mad over the years
doing it and they always come back
though that's the thing like they're on
a path and then they self-sabotage curse
everybody out whatever the cases they
they run away from that and then they
come back and try to act like nothing
ever happened but you can't really undo
that stuff essentially talk a little bit
about the self sabotaging well one of
the main things that we I think that we
were definitely not taught to do growing
up is to check in with like your
thoughts I mean our thoughts are
incredibly powerful I think you know the
new thought movement kind of addresses
that but harnessing the power of your
thoughts and really knowing what you're
thinking is one of the most powerful
ways to stop that but it is a process
and so I work with the subconscious mind
a lot with people and we collect you
know wounds and traumas and negative
thoughts when you're a child someone
says something to you or you know you've
been bullied those collect in our energy
body so if you think about like our
nervous system I mean we're wired to
receive free flowing energy and then
these these experiences happen and it
blocks the flow coming through so when
you work on the subconscious mind you
can basically redirect all of that you
can you can basically have those leave
and then communicate directly to your
subconscious mind and then those
patterns will be broken so that's the
quickest most effective way I would say
is hypnosis by playing directly into the
subconscious mind but then you also
really have to look at what those blocks
are why are you sabotaging yourself
where did that come from now once you
look at it through the
awareness and no judgment it's really
important to be not judgmental of
yourself and then once you look at it
then it's really up to you to choose if
you're gonna feel that or if you're in a
fuel your focus of what you really want
to do but self-sabotage also we also can
fear a fear stepping into our greatness
we can fear you know achieving something
it's really just inner reflection you
just got we all have to take time to
really think about what we want and and
do that in our work because nobody else
can do it for us so what why do you
think people do that and I'm saying I'm
I'm really uh you know hitting on this
because I've done it so what people
would you know be scared of their their
destiny because you know their dreams
are too big or they don't feel like they
deserve it like they want it but in when
they really think about it there's like
there's no way you know they're family
they come from a family who you know was
in poverty they didn't go to school all
of these things that are like kind of
like weighing against them um so they
felt like they're on worthy so when they
get close to it they saw getting
successful or whatever then they just
turn around and destroy everything is
that pretty much what it looks like a
lot of times well yeah I think so and
you know most of we're a product of our
environment what we grew up with like I
mean you know if you have parents that
were programmed by their parents that
you know who were in the depression or
whatever it gets passed down to keep
ourselves thinking small I remember
specifically a family member of mine
saying to me oh you can't write a book
and I was like watch me but you know so
we have to think about like where we we
absorb other people's projections
because other people don't understand
how they are emitting their inner junk
on to other people we just take it as
truth because we're not in our power yet
most most of the time but yeah I mean
think about when even when we don't
realize it like our imperfections offer
reflections so you know it just depends
on how serious your struggling like are
you struggling to where you have such
low self-esteem that you're going out
and seeking love outside of yourself for
random casual sexual partners or just
your maybe giving all of your energy
away freely you know so it's really a
circumstantial thing I think but yeah of
course I really recommend working on
yourself it's the greatest thing you can
do for yourself as well as for Humanity
I feel like if you don't find that
healing you kind of take that stuff with
you into your relationships into your
practice yeah it's like that extra bag
yeah oh I agree I'm all about like you
have you responsibility for the energy
that we give as well as receive because
before we like I think actually what you
now that it comes full circle for me
once you do that once you're ready to be
responsible for what you're what you're
thinking what you're putting out into
the world and once you're taking in and
that takes spiritual maturity but when
you look you know through your daily
experiences in your relationships and
you go I like to say like you go into a
higher perspective and you just look
down at everything and you and you also
have to kind of be in your heart you
really have to be able to be in a space
of compassion for yourself and for
others otherwise you're not taking the
path of least resistance I guess we
could say mm-hmm
you know because when you're living from
your heart first things tend to move a
lot more effortlessly at least that's
hot what I've found because the mine
we've been taught is the powerful you
know I'll Mecca but it's actually I feel
like once the hearts online then the
mind follows mm-hmm what do you think is
the best way to do that I mean oh like
what like what's a good place to start I
know you you talked about hypnosis and
things like that self-hypnosis is it
just kind of admitting it I like that's
kind of a good place to start that you
just need to admit that you need help or
admit that you have these character
flaws and defects and things like that
was a good place to start
well you just gotta get humble and just
realize that you're you know you're you
know you are you know imperfections but
I think our imperfections are gifts for
this experience on the planet as well so
I don't want people to get lost to that
but we just have to be able to sit with
ourselves an unconditional space look at
it and be willing to move into the
feelings that don't necessarily feel
good and that's the belief in itself
that you know I don't want to feel that
because it hurts but you know life's
meant to be felt so once you if you just
move through that whatever is hurting
you it doesn't have any more power just
it gets you know integrated so a good
place to start is challenging your
belief systems and in my book I have a
worksheet that will take you on a
journey of seeing what beliefs you've
actually borrowed from society what
you've heard and you've just adopted you
know we're like very programmable human
beings I mean you know we we mimic we
whatever we resonate with that moment we
just take it in as our own so in that
section of the book it helps you to
unravel your questions maybe that you
won't ask yourself and a lot of it is
that inner work of just thinking about
it because we don't think about it on
autopilot and then we try and then we
fail because we don't go deep enough you
know we start to go deep but what I've
found is if you just realize that those
things that have happened to us have
already happened to us but we're
bringing them into our present moment
once we look at it illuminate it and and
feel okay with just what happened what
the self-hypnosis and just kind of
admitting that you kind of have some
kind of you know stuff going on with you
I think everybody does right I know so I
don't think that you're a bad person or
less of a person because you're dealing
with care you know these these things
that have happened to you you know what
I'm saying so it's something that
everybody has to deal with and come to
terms with right yeah and the cool thing
is once you kind of get a once you kind
of clear up the disharmony within you
you can navigate your life and go
through experiences and not get attached
to things things can just move through
you you you don't have to cling on to
stuff it's what we cling on to things
causes resistance I guess you could see
in the quantum field you know but if you
could just get torii what not that you
have to take a bunch of [Â __Â ] from people
or anything but I'm just saying let's
not let things that have happened to a
state in our bodies and in our emotion
or emotional field because that prevents
us from experiencing joy and those
higher vibrations or higher emotions
that we all really want to kind of
reside in at most times but most of us
we can get into depression and and doubt
and self-esteem issues and those are
dense emotions that keep us in a
contracted energetic state and we
weren't we didn't have tools we don't
most of us don't have tools to get
ourselves back up right it's not just
about thinking happy thoughts happy
thoughts I mean we got to be real but
about being with those emotions but then
moving through them and letting them go
and like I said that comes with with
maturity and with awareness and just
owning it not talking but you gotta
really be why shouldn't say you have to
be but it helps to be it like like a
bird's-eye view of yourself watching
yourself because our minds want to
wander but we're not our minds we're
here to master our minds and once we get
that kind of you know focused in it's a
lot easier just to experience life and
be present because honestly priming
being present with peace in your heart
isn't that the ultimate ideal yeah
the message I got some years ago was
heal yourself and then heal the others
or essentially heal the healers like I
was doing a lot of private consultations
and stuff as well and everybody who was
coming to me for the most part they
wanted to do something similar to what I
was doing like they all wanted to be
healers they all were in empathic or
they had angels that the UM saying come
to them and all of these these crazy
things that were happening to them and
they just wanted to make sense of it all
and really to talk to someone who was
you know on that same level the same
playing field and and and pretty much
know how they can step forward in
walking in their destiny but they know
they
they're dealing with you know the those
things or whatever so it like everybody
I've had it's been very similar
experience maybe like attracts like or
something but have you noticed that -
that a lot of people who come to you
they want to be healers they want to use
their their gifts and things like that
to heal humanity oh absolutely because
you know anybody that is coming to me I
just have some kind of small something
to offer them on their journey you know
and you know I kind of screen clients or
a screen people I work with because I
genuinely want to work I'm not just
trying to take people's money I really
want to see their heart come on come
online and open up and you know to feel
like they're not the only one because I
sure as hell felt like I was crazy like
I didn't come out like - to write a book
like this was really challenging for me
just because my family I was worried
about what they're gonna think because
it's so far out there for so many people
you know I'm talking about the evolution
of human consciousness and you know
energy and you know people are very
religious and I respect all of that but
I had to really and I you know so I'm
thankful for you and people like you or
who are bringing conscious communication
out into the forefront because we all
have this in us it's just it's been so
suppressed and you know if people get so
excited - like oh this is just as my
truth this is my tribe you know so yeah
we're all here to just basically ignite
each other and um you know know I love
the saying know thyself you lie self and
when you know yourself you heal yourself
but then you also know that everybody
else is one and the same with us like
you know do do you resonate with oneness
the divine law of oneness so when you
also when you you go into the
perspective of that we're all one and
that everybody is reflections for our
spiritual growth and amplification you
can really rise up through a lot of crap
quick it's just about keys of
remembering as we already know it forgot
yeah so um as far as people you know
wanting to heal them set up one - you
kind of mentioned saying yes
to the call or answering the call or
whatever is that I mean does that look
like being authentic and being okay with
coming out because you can answer the
call within but until you like fully are
okay with it and not be scared you know
what I'm saying and that's one thing
that what-what were like it kind of it
kind of shifted gears for me was the
fact that okay I'm gonna embody this
this is what I am people are talking
about me making fun of me regardless if
I'm in my shell or if I'm just open with
my ideas and the experiences that I'm
having and in the way that I express
them but to like walk in that spirit of
authenticity to where you don't really
care you're you're answering the call
because there's a lot of other people
who who you know they have that call to
the description of Bible says that I'm
saying many are called but the chosen a
few that many people are called but not
a lot of people are going to answer the
call and really step out and embody it
you know so it just it just shifted
gears for me when I just you know
quit quit carrying about quit caring
about the opinions of men and what other
people thought and I literally like I
literally it was like night and day
to where stuff just started opening up
and and people you know getting healed
and chains fallen off for people who you
being open because it's like you have to
you have to you have to kind of play the
hypocrite if you don't because you got
to kind of act like you don't believe
certain things around certain people
your boss your mother you don't saying
your your family your friends your
in-laws
hey I seen you on the internet and
you're talking about aliens approaching
you're right okay what do you mean how
many aliens was it you know at the
family gathering the boss calls you in
office and says tell me about these
aliens and they got a doctor or mine
worried about what other people thought
I'm so glad I pushed through my fear
because that one little three minute
video or whatever impacted so many
people yeah that's that's the thing you
don't want to look at it but human
nature you know you try to see try to
look over see see what you can see
and for me he ended up biting me on the
butt because I I was looking into the
other realm and trying to reach my hand
in there see if I can grab something and
something reach back and grab me and it
wasn't good you know but I've dealt with
that as a teenager like dealing with
those demons and the demonic and stuff
like that
but now everything's good oh I'm sorry
I'm just gonna say do you feel like they
attach themselves to you oh they did
early on I've been exploring the whole
thing like I'm saying like having that
encounter at like four years old there's
a lot of people have had those
encounters when they were younger and
that's what I've been exploring a little
bit with people is the fact that it's
almost like that realm tried to mark
them or to scare them and keep them away
from their destiny most of them are like
people who are fabulously it's gonna
bring up about a fascination with the
other side because you encountered it at
such a young age when most people don't
even believe that it's real you've
you've already encountered it at the age
of four or five six whatever you know so
it puts this weird feeling within you
you know I'm saying whether you pursue
it or not but I've been talking to
people about the fact that they were
almost like marked already to do
something big and then that other side
like the negative forces were like
trying to scare them away from doing
anything spiritual or getting into
anything that seemed outside of the box
if you will you know yeah well they feed
on fear mm-hmm they want to create that
yeah yeah I think you also served you
wire you know so wake now oh I
definitely did it's so weird cuz and
I've been I've been trying to you know
graphs the the concept even from from a
Christian perspective of like you know
we're always talking about casting out
demons and casting off negative energies
and entities off and out of people but
which which demons were sent
just to serve you you know which which
situations were in your life because you
needed to be taught a lesson you there
was some character flaws and character
defects or some doors that you opened up
yourself that you know I'm saying that
came in so this idea of which demons do
you rebuke and which ones do you learn
from right obviously I think you learn
from them all even if you rebuke them I
cast them out of somebody but it's I
don't think it's always just hey come to
the healer and we're just gonna you know
say this prayer and they're gonna be
gone now that happens but I think it
really takes the person walking into
sermon and say hey you got to learn you
got to learn these lessons that are here
you keep doing the same thing over and
over open up the doors to these types of
relationships these types of forces in
your life or whatever the case is and
you just keep doing it over and over and
it's really not good to try to cast them
out especially from like a biblical
perspective without learning how to
clean it up you know it says it's
actually pretty dangerous because if you
get rich at how to get rid of them and
you don't clean yourself up and close
the door then they're gonna come back
with stronger entities you know I'm
saying that a much nastier than they are
and and it says the state of that person
is it's worse off you know more later
than they were to begin with and we see
that with drug addictions and any type
of addiction really that uh you know
that can end up taking somebody's life
in the end really no absolutely I think
that you know it serves us well
sometimes and I know that's hard for
like the logical mind to understand but
it serves us well because it allows us
to strengthen the light within and it
moves us to have to step into our power
and to ignite our you know our inner
being us and I know that you were
Christian or you're Christian or um
pretty much that's another story I'll
just share my version of Jesus okay so
Jesus for me as a child I was born on
Easter so I was always very interested
in you know this beautiful man and
Jesus to me basically taught me directly
he said what wait what they seek and me
is already within thee and I don't feel
like he is going to save us I feel like
he already gave us the tools to save
ourselves and it's really gotta just be
the inner work that we do so yeah so
like once you like you've been doing the
work and that's why you're able to cast
your demons out because you expanded the
light within and there's no room for
them anymore yep
yeah but it's changed over the years
like hindsight's 20/20 you're able to
look back and so the demons that you
were like what trying to rebuke and
trying to get rid of now you're kind of
glad that they were there like you said
because if they would if that stuff
wouldn't happen I wouldn't be doing what
I'm doing today you know and I wouldn't
have those experiences or those
encounters you know I'm saying to live
to tell about him and I wouldn't I
wouldn't change a thing you know on this
side of it like having the wisdom of
that and having the empathy for people
who are going through similar situations
or whatever the case is that's what it
gives you you know a sense of empathy
that you actually care to help people um
saying where they are and you can you
have the knowledge and the wisdom and
the empathy that the love it you can't
do it without that you just most people
don't care you know that other people
are going through stuff but if you've
gone through it it's something that you
identify and others who are dealing with
the same type of struggles and things as
well well most people who don't have
compassion is because they're really
looking through just their ego lens
which he goes great serves as well but
they don't see how actually connected we
are so it's just a state of their where
they're at you know but um yeah that's
pretty interesting and you probably felt
really crazy like even sharing that with
people probably right did you don't
share it with your family were they okay
like what they believe you or um well it
took a long time right cuz you're a
little kid and then it took like you
know talking about it at like sleepovers
and stuff as a teenager hey anybody ever
had this happen
yeah yeah I had that or I've seen this
or whatever watch the documentary on it
you know when you're young and you know
oh wow so something something's up like
I'm not the only one that's had these
kind of sleep terrors or sleep paralysis
or whatever and I remember my sister
told me several years ago that she was
dating a guy and they would just have
one of those deep God God talks or
whatever hey do you believe this what if
the universe is this those kind of talks
and uh she mentioned to him that that I
had that encounter as a kid at a demon
woke up with demons on me and stuff or
whatever and he started crying he says I
want you crying he said because I had
the same thing happened to me as well
but I've just been too scared to tell
anybody and this dude is in his mid-30s
and he's never mentioned it at all he
just suppressed that he thought he was
crazy I thought that he made it up for
some kind of crazy thing so when you
know just the power of just being open
right and just letting people know that
they're not alone that's just in that
that quick example the goth you know
found out that he wasn't crazy you know
just in the midst of a conversation
about it
no absolutely people I mean I love the
saying of you know we are the students
of life and the teachers of it's lessons
so I think it's just great when you can
just share your truth and you know but
we judge ourselves we you know put those
like I don't want to say it because you
know people think we're crazy I totally
get that yeah trying to figure out how
to phrase it or hide you that's what
we've been talking about how lately this
coming up with ideas like hold on like
how did you get that download like how
do you articulate the download and
there's so many ways that we can write
in in in a lot of people I'm not
convinced that everybody knows as much
as they even pretend to know I guess I
met with the Orion Council of light and
they I met with the Arcturians well the
Pelagians woke me out of my sleep and
told me this message isn't something I
saw I believe and understand downloads
and I get them but to say like exactly
these are the beings from this planet or
star system or whatever the case is like
it gets a little squirrely for me even
from like whether you want to say well
even you know just with our
analogy of source God's Spirit the
universe Jesus God the Holy Spirit which
one told you Jesus told me this God told
me this and then the Holy Spirit told me
this and they're like it's all it's
really the same life force essence I
feel like it's communicating with this
and you can put whatever you want you
know your name on it it's it gets really
squirrely too really because because it
they sound the same we've we've been
exploring this idea okay well what do
they sound like like do they but it all
sounds the same a lot of times it sounds
like you they speak with your own
dialect writing your own voice and to
say like this is what it is I've been
stopped I've been stargazing and had
telepathic communication I've been in
prayer and had that still small voice
I've been you know a self seen UFOs and
had that communication as well you know
but it all sounds the same it's this
inward dialogue that that you know
communicates with you and things and
finding the ways to articulate it
without sounding too crazy like you can
sound as crazy as you want I can easily
you know say that they I'm talking to
aliens right I'm looking at UFOs and
they're communicating telepathically and
or I can say they're angels I'm
communicating with angels well I had
these angels appear to me in the night
sky or the angels told me this to say
that so it gets really squirrely on how
crazy we want to sound because all of
this stuff is it's pretty it's
interesting and it does sound crazy to
even come out and even emit this stuff
but like some people don't want to sound
crazy as as you know other people so
that they don't talk about it right
unless they're in like a private
conversation
versus being on a podcast or in a song
or something like that you know yeah
yeah I I always like to guide people to
challenge everything you know question
everything because there's always more
truth to be unfolded so I like that you
feel that way too as well because yeah
there's we were you know if we really
want to be honest I mean who really
knows anything you know well that's the
thing about
starting your brand or your school or
your cult or whatever the case is like
you have to act like you know it all so
you have to like in point and say that
was the octarians or that was the Orion
Council of light or that was simply put
God God doesn't sound as sexy as some of
the other things so we got to change it
up we got to say it was the Angels which
it could have been like it really is it
gets really squirrely and you know and
I've had so many encounters of so many
crazy mystical experiences with entities
and and synchronicities and stuff like
that which I believe that's how they
speak as well either they or it or the
gods or whatever that the Angels the
Archangels the ascended masters whatever
you want to call them they speak through
everything in life but trying to
articulate it can be curly yeah some
things just really are best felt and not
said that's why that's why I like in the
midst of it all I love to have these
conversations just see what have you
seen and kind of hold it up against what
I've seen and what I've experienced and
hold it up against you know my hundred
and fifty guests I've had on this show
right and just kind of you know I'm
saying see a pitcher you know and see
who's telling the truth and at that and
and and just and just see what kind of
stands at the end of the day but really
at the end of the day it comes down to
practicality like how can you bring how
can you make this ascended knowledge
practical like how can you help someone
who's struggling with addiction how can
you help someone who because a lot of a
lot of these people can a lot of people
don't have that even the desire to and
there's that empathy or whatever they
don't even have that like they're just
doing it to whether it's to sell books
or to kind of go on Gaia TV and and and
sell lectures on this stuff that they
can make it up as they go versus having
something tangible like look these
practice these practices work and that's
one thing which skal wanted to have you
on here because of your book you have it
all mapped out where it's really
tangible it's not just some crazy out
there ideas and stuff that literally
works for people
yeah that's why I really tried to to do
is to you know and there's a lot of like
worksheets so it helps use like I said
know thyself got to get to know yourself
and then you can heal yourself like I I
don't like to preach any one thing I
like people to step into their own
creative potential their own creative
mind whatever what are your beliefs this
is what I have to offer but when it what
is what resonates with you and I also
like to remind people that we know the
truth by the way we feel you know mm-hmm
and and and another thing I really liked
a guy could one too is getting into the
inner body sensations learning how to
feel our emotions our you know how to
feel things because that's like the best
navigation system we have as our
emotions and they're incredibly powerful
communicators so I think emotions like
human beings if we need to learn
anything it's how to manage our emotions
and how to be with them without pushing
them away or clinging on or projecting
garbage on other people you know I think
that's like really powerful way to start
learning how to feel because we know
ourselves we drink we smoke we whatever
you know but then when you actually can
be kind of clear and comfortable in
feeling I mean that's pretty amazing
we're in these human bodies we have
these sensations we have you know what I
mean we just don't tune in we're always
so obsessed on the outside but there's a
lot of magic that is within us all yeah
that's one that's one of the biggest
things because a lot of these we've been
talking about this a lot lately too but
a lot of these groups whether it's
Christianity sects have come out of and
stuff and then you know maybe even some
of the Gnostic or like hyper spiritual
groups that kind of deny those feelings
right or those impulses or even just
just like the size of here you're saying
humanity that you do like to have fun
and you like to go play golf with your
family and go see a movie and go have a
good meal or whatever the case is and so
those
don't seem as in as spiritual as
meditating and astral traveling and
communicating with the angels or
whatever Kate says and so like a lot a
lot of people will kind of push off just
to like the very essence of the humanity
but I think you know that's spiritual to
write everything that we do it's not
just because I because if if that's all
they see that's all they're gonna expect
and it gets really it gets really weird
cuz I had people you know I'm saying
look at me like that and they get that
they see me doing human things I'm
making people laugh or telling jokes and
they're just like appalled or something
that I'm a human because they think that
I'm some like super duper advanced
spiritual guru or whatever the case is
but at the same time I think I am right
it's it's it's it's both of those both
sides exist and they both work together
it's not just all one or all the other
yeah we have to remember I mean we're
we're actual animals - we have a
cardinal side to us and that's another
thing that you know what I feel like
we're all ascending I mean when I say
ascension it's what I feel ascension is
is integrating our higher self into our
lower self and thus bringing more of our
spiritual energy into our physical body
so as such and sometimes people think
you're gonna fly off the planet or
something that's not how it is for me
it's just really raising your light and
bringing them together and so this is
off subject - I usually don't talk about
religion but so you know like in the
church where they had the priests they
would needed to abstain from sex right
that right there puts a resistance on
the natural state of being and there's
you know you could say well they did
that so the money would go back into the
church when people died there was no
family but so what you did was you
created you wrapped somebody that is
designed to experience and express
sexuality and you put them in
constraints and then look how it how it
you know leaked itself out mm-hmm if you
know that so that's just one way to look
at it so when we suppose you know we
have to be real we have these real
thoughts I have dark
I look at them they go by they just
flowed through me attached to them yeah
that it becomes our reality and then we
start bringing in and materializing in
our relationships that's the whole thing
I really am passionate about is teaching
people the power of our thoughts yeah
and we are animals and it's amazing that
we have these bodies but we are sexual
beings we do have darkness we do have
light it's really just about bringing it
into balance you know and any time we
put a restriction or a resistance we
create a magnetic field that just
attracts more resistance so just let's
get into the free flow yeah it works it
works both ways cause like we're talking
my having that that um empathy towards
people it's you have the empathy because
you've been through something and now
you want to help people right so you're
looking for people like you resonate
with people who have been in abusive
relationships you resonate with people
who have been on drug addiction or pill
addiction or whatever the case is like
you seek out those people because you
know how to get them out of it you know
how to share your story what worked for
you so you're empathetic towards those
people you start looking for them and
then on the opposite side the opposite
spectrum of like you know the the
preacher side or the the Catholic priest
side of what you're suppressing or
you're acting like you're against it
secretly because you're struggling with
it or you you're like dealing with it
and so a lot of those preachers who are
against homosexuality just where they
just always vocal gays well you know we
got to get the gays you know all this
suffering they're just always like that
they're the ones who are caught and you
know having gay prostitutes with them
you know what I'm saying though exactly
and you know like when you hear like
black lives matter cops lives matter all
that that is doing is creating and
fueling separation like I cannot
irritate I don't watch the news and
that's why because it's just so I make
that rate when you do that it's like a
beacon of more of that emotion and but
yeah that's exactly what you're just
saying it's just like yeah what they
like what you're against and what your
vocal
about is usually you're amplifying is
usually what you're hiding within and
you got to act like I don't like gays is
really your your yeah inside you you
have a you know you might be gay you
don't know it if you've and and uh and
is this the same way for those people
like who like I'm real big on I mean we
talked about it today about being
authentic and the power and the
deliverance that's come that comes with
being authentic and um I'm passionate
about that because I went through it and
it works for me so I'm genuinely gonna
try to reach out to people and try to
help them and guide them and let them
know what happens when you become
authentic and you quit carrying about
caring about the opinions of those
around you when it comes to walking out
your destiny
you know everybody's destiny is
different like some people are content
where they are they don't want to go
deeper they don't want to you know take
that that that step of faith or that
leap of faith in into their their new
job with a new career full-time doing
what they love to do they're okay
changing tires they're okay changing oil
or working at the factory or whatever
that's everybody doesn't have that that
zeal within them to to be free some
people have given up on it I think that
if you have given up on it you can
always go back and recapture it but
everybody doesn't have that same Drive
that you know you have to kind of go out
there and you know be almost like that
superhero you feel like your story is
supposed to matter you you know I'm
saying leave a legacy of helping as many
people as you can and have fun while
you're doing it like I think that's what
it's about really you know what I'm
saying
yeah that's that's true I'm actually
gonna be going on and see it for me I
had a lot of resistance taking money
like very honest it was very easy for me
to have a business a product plan I
developed that's nothing to do with
spirituality
yeah okay I'm still sharing on social
media like I do and I'm doing this
business okay and then when it comes to
doing service with people I had a
resistance like I just want to help
people but I had to stop that because
energy is energy and so basically the
universe you know
flushed away all of my when we were in a
flood a natural disaster in 2016 we had
like a river come through a house
basically so that was a huge ordeal but
it took away I was already writing the
book tube so it was like okay stop
working on this and get on your path if
that makes any sense
but I think what I really wanted to talk
about was manifestation like because you
know that's huge in the community it's
all about manifesting this I want the
big house big car I personally try to
invite people to think about what
they're really wanting to manifest
because we know the stories of people
who've manifested you know a mansion or
a car or whatever and at the end of the
day they're lonely and empty in this big
house with a fancy car so I really try
to inspire people when they're doing
their manifestation and they're trying
to get clear of what they want to
experience in our life to think about
focus on spiritual prosperity like what
do you really want do you really want a
big house just keep clean and pay all
these taxes and bills and stuff or do
you want one more simple life what do
you really want because we've been
programmed like the rap videos I know
you know all about that you know get the
car get the girls and it really isn't
satisfying it does nothing for you it's
like you just experienced and that it's
not real wealth yeah oh you know
enriching and focusing on what really
matters I think because people you know
the secret was an amazing thing that
came out but it's missing a lot of the
mechanisms like the other laws that go
with the law of attraction that really
bring manifestation and play
so I feel like when we're a manifester
if we want to focus on what makes you
feel good when you go to sleep you have
peace in your heart like you go to sleep
and there is not a care in the world
right and then not like the best feeling
well you know people are stressed out
all the time
like look I remember almost like in
school when I got in trouble or like
when I was working at my job like it was
just weird and I put up with this for
years my whole adult life almost where
you don't want the weekend to end Friday
you having fun Saturday you think about
it tomorrow Sunday Sunday you wake up
man better go to work tomorrow oh my god
I gotta go to work and there's just
weird hyper tension there and you're
scared you're like man I wish I didn't
have to but I gotta go I gotta go and
then so you go you know the next day
comes Monday morning comes and you clock
in you go to work but it's just fear of
Monday morning you know I'm saying you
couldn't go to bed just at Bliss okay
you like you didn't like as the sun's
going down you're like dang we have to
work you know I'm saying who used to
feel like I used to feel that way about
school and then for work my entire adult
life this weird fear I you know and
there's a lot of people who feel that if
you want that to go away like that can
go away like that that feeling can go
away like whether it's just to be
content at your job and be there and
kind of kind of work it until you open
something else up you definitely have to
do that but as far as simplifying your
life like I have a lot of people who
look at what I'm doing or they the whole
full time thing is always something
that's really you know everybody wants
to do what they love full-time you know
and I think everybody everybody should
and everybody deserves to if they work
the steps and if they if they build it
if they try it everybody can do it but
you have to simplify you can you might
not be able to live in like you're
saying the big old house and the big
mansion and you might not be able to go
eat out four times a week you might not
be able to
you know get your hair done every month
or every two weeks or get your nails
done there's things that you gotta have
to kind of do without and simplify to
get your bills down low to say look we
can survive and still be good if we did
this and that's a process because people
get into so much debt mr. Wade society
setup is to get you in debt and keep you
in debt so many people have to work
against that and it's even that idea say
I'll never be able to because I'm
$40,000 in debt sixty thousand a hundred
thousand whatever in debt so I'll never
be able to you know do that but you can
still ways to simplify and get your
bills down low and get a smaller house
get a mobile home whatever it is what's
worth more that feeling of being scared
like man I don't want to go to work man
I do not want to go I wish this can last
forever is that worth the big house
getting uh you know having a bigger bed
having an extra bedroom and a nicer
house or is simplifying living more meek
and more humble but getting to wake up
and do whatever it is that your heart
desires tax to make a paycheck or make a
living doing the money is probably gonna
be a lot less starting out till you get
on your feet and do your business and
your branding and stuff like that but
for me there's there's no there's really
no price on that there's no price like
what do I have to give up to do that
right and I did it and I'm doing it and
um it didn't come easy it doesn't come
easy it is a step of faith a leap of
faith which you told this and then
there's that fear as well you got the
parents and you got the in-laws and
everybody oh you're doing what you're
quitting your job to do to do music
really we got there's another job over
here they're hiring it's like mom this
is my job like I'm doing this and I'm
sustaining myself you know what I'm
saying and that whole journey but I
believe that if people want it they can
do it you can do whatever the hell you
want to do and they should do it right
yeah absolutely and I like you know not
everybody can just you know drop their
job it's like you said you know putting
take baby steps towards moving in that
direction you know certain don't watch
TV one night and go in there it's all
about building momentum you know I write
a book and finish a book list like
and I did it through a flood it was all
about the small intentional steps
pushing it forward because it can be
overwhelming when you say oh I want to
quit my job and go here people don't
know how to get from one in one point to
the next it starts and little baby steps
phone calls your you know calling logo
yeah
yes I mean just moving the energy
forward and then you'll be surprised how
much it'll manifest for you but yeah we
acquired like two hundred thousand
dollars in debt because of the flood we
didn't have insurance so but it was
really kind of magical because I was
well there wasn't that time but I was
writing this book and I was able to
practice everything I wrote it was like
I was being called for my walk what
you're talkin here so you know and
things worked out beautifully I mean so
and we were in a camper with four people
and mm-hmm
it was dying in dogs and so I mean I've
been worried and have anything before
and then we got back to pretty quick so
yeah well then I mean there for you it
kind of produces in you whether it's
from that or from having humble
beginnings but it produces in you a
gratitude for everything yeah well
you're gonna key that's the key to
everything though it is I think you have
that attitude no that's like if you if
you can get that moving in your body
that energy and you can raise your
frequency not to sound science C but you
feel that in your body you admit it
because I did have a moment I was
cooking out of a crock-pot and I had to
wash the pot was in a camper our house
is flooded it's a construction zone and
I cook something in a crock-pot and I
was out it was hotter than hell was like
a hundred ten in Louisiana and I'm
cleaning this pot out with a garden hose
and I didn't have a scrubber because
everything is just gone in the garbage
its disaster and I'm like this really
sucks and I'm like then I was like wait
a minute
i Scott myself this comes from awareness
yeah I said I got electricity to run
this crock-pot I had food to put in the
crock-pot like
so say so if you lift yourself out yeah
you know and it it just changes
everything
so yeah two days awesome today it's just
not one of those like just be grateful
it's it's awesome it's powerful even
with that overwhelming feeling about you
know I'm saying having to go back to
work you know between Sunday and Monday
that transition this is like sucks the
life out of you there's a way out of
that too you know I'm saying you have to
have that game plan but you have to kind
of approach that with gratitude as well
because I got convicted because I was
feeling that way or I would be on the
job and what am I doing here I'm not
supposed to be here I got I got a
destiny I'm supposed to live up to and
I'm here you know doing this or doing
that or whatever the case is for 40 50
hours a week and I can't I don't get
sleep and I there's no way I can do what
I want to do and stuff so you get
overwhelmed but I have to a guy convict
I'm like man this is something I asked
God for this like this this job is an
answered prayer like I remember where I
was doing a much worse job nastier jobs
physical a lot harder physical manual
labor and I prayed prayed to God for
this job please give me this child hope
it goes through I went to the interview
like I'd like so this job is an answered
prayer and now I'm complaining about an
answer something I prayed to God and
asked God for that's awesome right so
that kind of changes your perspective
like look man this is a this I was a
blessing it's people who would even kill
for this job you know and didn't kind of
go back and look at the other jobs that
I've worked that were bad jobs you know
there were jobs but you know I'm saying
it's all part of that alchemy though
going from one level to the next until
you're doing what you're supposed to be
doing I think that every place that
we're in whether we end those dead-end
jobs or that that stress is there you're
supposed to feel that you're a person
you got to know what that feels like
you're learnt you got to learn from that
stuff I don't think I don't think that
any of us even if we get off the path
for months weeks or years at a time
it's all used man it's all used in our
story and it's all used in our alchemy
somehow like somehow I think that we're
all right where we're supposed to be
that moment and and it whatever that
desperation comes in that you want to
get serious about your life and about
your dreams or what you want to bring to
the table and your dreams are too big
and there's no way you can do it there's
little ways that you chip away at a time
most of my music I got 200 songs under
my belt I probably wrote 170 of them on
the job like we're working so there's
something you can do you don't saying
there's something you can do whether
it's in send that email out pull out
your text-to-speech on your phone and
you know I'm saying write your book
while you're driving to work I used to
do that I'd be driving to work but that
hunger in me I don't want to go to work
I want to turn around I'll pull out that
phone so let me just start writing let
me just start creating something you
know bringing it to the table you've got
a fuel your passion you've got to put
energy towards that or it's never gonna
take off so that's great advice
yeah it's uh it's super spiritual stuff
and like I said it comes back down to
being real practical like what are the
Angels telling you they're telling you
what that we're secrets of math and
science and how to build spaceships not
like how do what is all that stuff if
you can't if it's not gonna help
somebody in their day-to-day you fulfill
their dreams like walk in their destiny
you know in all of this stuff and I
really do think that it is it is it is
deep it's crazy deep stuff right but
we're supposed to take it and make it
practical for the lay people because you
know it sounds sexy and it sounds very
intriguing we and I do a good job making
it sound that way in my music right
traveling the ethers communicating we
eat teas and summoning UFOs like it's
really cool but it makes people want to
do it
but we have to come to terms even if
that they want to do it that's one thing
but then they don't have to do it
like you don't have to fast for three
weeks and then have an angelic being
approach you and then tell you this and
then it changes your life and it's a
message you don't have to do that
because we've done it like we've done
we've been through the trauma we you
don't have to be in the abusive
relationship and
you don't have to go down that road to
learn you can learn from the people who
have already done it the people who have
had the experiences and we can make it
practical we can tell you look you're in
a toxic relationship get out of it stop
finding not meeting those people at the
same place you keep meeting these people
at the bar rooms and and then you don't
know why they're alcoholics and they
want a party and all this stuff and you
want to settle down like you know all of
this stuff comes into play it turns into
something that's real practical at the
end of the day I mean yeah I totally
because there's billions of people on
the planet and a small percentage of
them are talking about the spaceships
and you know there's people dealing with
just regular everyday human stuff yeah
you know and the whole thing of like you
know not wanting to be human is really
sad because I'm sure you hear that right
sometimes like I don't want to be well
it's such a blessing and such a gift
that you've been given and I really feel
that we chose this also on some level
you know that we don't have to just
evolve into something else it's that's
like a false illusion almost like where
are we trying to go other than right
here right now because it's really all
there it is you know we I think we get
in this trap of trying to arrive
somewhere when there's no place to
arrive except to be fully present in the
moment whether that's at the job you're
at or you're in the moment moving
towards which one experience in the next
moment it's moment by moment by moment
by moment because we all get this you
know and we visualize we do this but it
all happens right now and I think that
baby steps help people kind of click in
into gear but moment by moment
it's choice and choice is the most
powerful thing we have and we have to
exercise it yep that's what it's about
just making making those choices making
the right choices think negatively oh
well you're in a new moment right now
what are you gonna do with it mm-hmm you
know people want to be like I think is I
think it's part of understanding just
like free will of understanding that uh
the people would rather be the robot
like they would rather my people
struggle with what we can call sane
or you know addictions or whatever the
cases that are not good right they need
they want to overcome them they need
help but they're just asking pleading
for help you know part of that help is
showing resistance showing self-control
maybe starving it out right when it
comes to like worshiping God or
worshiping the creator of what that
essence is the fact that you have a
choice it's a choice to do that you're
not a robot you don't have to do that
like you have a choice whether you can
give in to your addiction and it's gonna
that's gonna birth an outcome if you
keep doing it over and over and over and
over it's gonna birth an outcome or if
you deny it you say you know what I want
to do that acknowledge it I love to do
that like people who are on drugs they
love that feeling of that instant high
smoking crack meth addiction eventually
you you learn to hate it but you love to
hide there chasing the high but you have
to give up a piece of yourself to get
that quick fix you can easily get the
quick fix or you can say you know what
and I'll do it as in worshiping God for
me that's just what works for me and say
you know what I would I want to show
towards my destiny I want to that's not
gonna get me where I'm supposed to be
whatever that addiction is whatever it
is it's not gonna get me where I need to
be I have to I know I have to give that
up to get to where I'm going cuz I can't
bring that with me you can't bring it
with you you can't bring the crack
addiction to your fortune 500 company
it's not gonna happen you can't bring
them it won't happen so it's those
choices each day I can do that and get
the instant gratification be okay cuz
you love to do it there's things that we
love to do it's an instant gratification
to the fleshly desires but it's like you
know what and I tell God to say I love
God more like I love my family more I
love my my mind more that I could be a
robot and just easily upthat's out of my
system I don't even care about it
there's there's no devotion in that to
like the higher intelligences and God
like you're not a robot it is the
freewill it is the
choice and at the end of the day you got
to make those right choices well I agree
but I also look at you know we're
program does children I don't like to
use the word program but it's really
what happened you know so fear leads our
lives a lot of times that we don't
realize we have this choice this
freewill choice this infinite potential
to tap into we don't even have awareness
of this quantum field of energy that is
dancing around this constantly we don't
know how to navigate into the real realm
if you really want to look at it like
that you know we're taught to think
small or you know like my kids are in
public school but when they come home I
keep them open and keep that you know I
do my side of things at home but you
know you're that you're gonna get a job
you know work the rest of your life
you're not we're not supporting our
children and growing and tapping into
creative things you know what I'm saying
like imagine if there was something for
you that that you were really talented
as an artist so let's get him in a
career path on that they keep you in
like the you know the basic job systems
so with the fear comes in a thinking
outside of the box because as children
we were free thinkers you know and then
that changes through that we can't blame
it all in the schools but it's a large
part of it mm-hmm yeah they don't reward
that but there are schools and it's cool
when you can find those schools man that
actually cater to you know what the
strengths are and those kids and what
they're interested in like Utah before
we went live you talk about your son you
know loves gaming and strengths
live-streaming video games and stuff and
like now we're in a place where you can
make a living doing that now and you can
make a great living like there's 14 year
olds making millions of dollars a year
he's already generating some and I
resisted not because I was like I don't
like having all these people
energetically exchange like my son he's
16 now and he still wants to go to
college and so I'm gonna support him on
that he's gonna do computer tech stuff
as well so yeah exactly I mean we can do
really what we want especially now in
this time and age yeah
you're doing what you're doing I didn't
realize that you were doing this
full-time
yeah I did well I'm about a year in I
got let go from my job
August of last year and then I went six
months on workman's comp which was just
pennies draw on your pennies so after
that was like the test are you gonna
sink or swim like you're gonna find
another job or you gonna stick at it and
I do my podcast and do my music and I do
graphic art and things like that on the
side as well for people and build
websites I do music and so you know that
was like you know the push from the
creators I look and you go try it you
know and so you know my wife was on was
on board with it because she knew how I
was just getting SuperDuper depressed
you know I'm saying feeling like I was I
was you know made for or like I'm saying
greatness or whatever doing great things
but then in the end you know feeling
that because because not everybody feels
it's not like not everybody feels that
way about about Monday morning there's a
lot of people who get up and go to work
that's not the default for everybody
like you can turn that off I guess
people get up on Monday mornings and
they love their job they can't wait to
go see their patients or whatever they
do they service people who love back and
groceries man and when you meet those
people who are authentic and they love
what they're doing I don't care what
they're doing I've talked about that I
got tattoo artists who are they love to
go to work and draw on people like they
get a kick out of doing that and but if
you meet us there's people who are
working at McDonald's who love it
they're just smiling joking laughing too
you know yeah we need all kinds of kinds
it takes a you know everybody to make
the world go round so as long as we feel
good about ourselves we're enjoying our
life who cares what you do yeah so
that's what I'm talking about fight that
feeling man and if that's you your
you're a perfect candidate like if you
have that you know Saturday Sunday like
oh man I gotta go back to work I had
that for like man 27 years no matter
what job I was doing so I got a
I didn't like you know all the jobs I
hated my jobs that was I was not
supposed to you know that's not what I
wanted to do with my life and then it
gets depressing you can really fall in
it depression like man I wanted to be a
rapper man I want it to be there so I
wanted to be that but now while I'm
cleaning toilets I'm a janitor you know
what I'm saying like what am i doing you
sent it with a scrub brush in your hand
cleaning toilets like literally and that
could be that you can get depressed
really easy but you have to pull
yourself out of it I'll say take that
that that negative energy and that's
where the power is when you feel that
stuff coming in your chest you know that
you're a perfect candidate I got Doosan
about this man yeah being that also
means being in tuned to those feelings
and you know you obviously have wrong
totally not feeling anything well I
think I think a lot of people are in
tune with them but they just they think
it's default like there's no way they
can change it like they've you know they
have kids now and then it got a mortgage
and you got a car note like there's no
way that I can do this you know and even
like the system is against me all odds
are against me which really they are but
there's other odds too that are forever
in your favor that have plans to prosper
you and bless you and and have your you
know saying future and mine and get with
those plans right you know I'm saying
this scriptures even in the Bible man
all throughout the Bible were like God
just promising you a great future and
you know you're gonna enjoy life and and
and I'm saying live it to the fullest
and nothing's gonna stop you and note
nothing and nobody can hold you back to
fulfilling your destiny and like those
are the things that have helped me you
know I'm saying cuz you you believe it
you read it but when you you have to
apply it you have to apply that yeah you
just know that it exists but once you
grab it and you become the manifestation
of those scriptures or of those lectures
or whatever the case you've whatever
you've been listening to and it starts
working and it does and it all of it's
practical and it seems so far out of
reach and you know people would even say
oh well you got this and you got
supporters and stuff like that that help
you like that's something come overnight
you have the bill bill didn't come
overnight and I was and I've been
talking about this a lot lady I know I
sound like a broken record but it's just
good to discuss I've always felt this
thing we're like that people deserve to
to have their dreams manifested like
everybody deserves it right and I felt
that way like you know God loves you and
that you go breaks the love of God and
you can you know walk in your dreams and
you deserve to do whatever you want to
do if you want to be a musician if you
want to be a painter if you want to
start your own business you deserve it
but yeah it took me you know reading
this book by Melanie Hall about black
and white magic at the end is talking
about me you know God doesn't care if
you're happy or sad like those laws just
exists
those universal principles they exist
and you deserve what you work for you
don't you don't deserve to have
something handed to you that you didn't
work for it goes back to what we've been
talking about you're not going to be
grateful for it you're not gonna be
grateful for it because it would just
hand it and hand it to you you're not
gonna care about it but this now I
protect it my file fight for it I'll
fight you for it you know what I'm
saying and I paid for this man you know
what I'm saying and everybody there's a
piece of you in it
they had nobody has seen like those
hours of studying and research and sweat
and tears literally that's an ocean
sweat and tears like literally crying
over your dream sweating for your dreams
sweat blood sweat and tears literally is
like the magical ingredients to make it
happen if it yeah if you cry have you
cried over your dream yeah people do you
cry with broken people like come on man
it's but it really is blood sweat and
tears to make this stuff happen oh
absolutely and I want one thing I think
that's also really important that I like
to remind people is that like self love
has to be there if you don't believe in
yourself you're not gonna be able to
move into those directions it just will
not ever happen so learning to love
yourself unconditionally and that might
sound cheesy and cliche but that's where
it all starts
fill that well at first then it will
just come out and then your you know
what I'm saying by that like if you
don't believe in yourself the universe
is gonna reinforce that you can know how
valuable you are to like I know that I
have something amazing to bring to the
table and I do it I'll do it pretty good
but there's this you can get caught up
of wanting to uh you wanting somebody
what we call to put you on right even
with me like there's other podcasters
who do stuff similar to what I do and
they have a bigger reach and they have a
network and it's like man what can I
join a network and you're waiting to
join a network you're waiting to get put
on you're waiting to get retweeted
you're waiting for a record deal you're
you know and that stuff might never come
you may never get added to the network
you may never get a record deal you
always want that that one person to hear
you or that one person to partner with
you it may never happen like you have to
go you have to you have to build it for
yourself if you want it bad enough and
so just sitting there knowing you have
something to offer be like if if they
knew and that's how you feel like if
they only knew what I can bring to the
table man I would be a great asset to
their company to their business to that
podcast but this I would even like as a
guest on this show people are watching
and so many people want to come on I
wish I can come on the podcast and and
talk to you well I'm never gonna know
unless you email me right yeah you
actually have to do something - like -
like manifest it right practical stuff
like that it starts here in the ethers
in the mind and that would be awesome if
I was on his show and then it went and
then it would bring awareness to my
brand it would bring awareness to my
music or to my book and man I could do
that but you got to pull it out the
ethers and practically do something
practically get on your facebook or your
email and send me a message like
practically make it happen put energy
behind it as you just got to do that and
say the same thing for five years yeah
it's something about having those good
ideas because they just exist nobody
knows about them you daydream about them
you fantasize the bottom and sometimes
you
it almost seems like God's taunting you
over them because they're just great
ideas but they they're not they don't
exist in the physical they're just in
here and there's so many of them and the
true alchemy of what I call the true
shamanism is to really go into the
ethers and be able to bring it out we
have to go into the dream state and pull
it out and manifest it into your reality
and you can do that but it takes the
dream state it takes spirituality you
know manifestation and all of those
things are beautiful in it I think I
really do it's think it starts with a
lot of that but it then it comes to okay
when I wake up what do I do
how do i yeah choice and action mm-hmm
and that's what you that's what your
book teaches right you bring it back
down to is that I mean is that a good
way to put it that you it talks about
going into the ethers or seeing yourself
healed or seeing yourself embodying as
if it already is yours I mean I say it
in a lot of different ways but I really
focused on the feeling the spiritual
prosperity first because yeah all the
time as you're chasing something that's
just gonna pull you further off your
path you know but ever there's lessons
along all parts of that journey but yeah
that's um that's a scripture and uh it's
pretty cool John third John chapter
after 1 verse 2 it says dear friend I
pray that you may enjoy good health and
that all may let me read a different
version um King James Version says
beloved I wish above all things that you
may have prosper and be in health even
as thy soul prosper so I think that's it
I think that's a good analogy as far as
that the outside looked like the inside
that it starts it starts with the inside
prosper in your soul and then it's gonna
start it's gonna start transforming the
outside I had a friend of mine he was
pushing 400 pounds and it was on a
psilocybin and encounter that uh we both
walked by them
was walking outside and we stopped and
we looked in the mirror and I said what
do you see man he's 400 pounds he's like
I see ya I say oh you know somebody
who's obese I need to lose weight and I
don't like the way I look and say well
what do you see on the inside and uh
usually I see someone who's you know
saying genuine who cares and things like
that and so like you know let's focus on
getting the the outside to look like the
inside really good person is on the
other side you see people all around you
who own the app it's the opposite on the
outside they're made up their stunning
they're the most beautiful person you've
ever seen got the right make up bodies
great whatever but on the inside they're
dying they're dead they're what the
Bible calls it calls them uh dead
Sepulchre is like a whitewashed tomb
you're like a gray like a tomb there's
nothing on the inside nothing of
substance there but on the outside it's
it looks great you know what I'm saying
so to really be able to embody what's on
the inside and manifest it on the
outside is is what it's about because I
know you want it I know you think about
it like you dream about it dream about
it so much of jobs you drives you mad
right can I read something real quick I
chose to close my book with this quote
that what you have will save you if you
bring it forth from yourselves that
which you do not have within you will
kill you if you do not have it within
you and that's the gospel Thomas is
exactly what you're just saying mm-hmm
that was you know I think it was on that
same psilocybin encounter that we went
it was the fact that I went in seeing a
healer
we went and seen a someone who did Reiki
healing and they got a meditation and
then we went to a float tank and then
had psilocybin or what it was just a
men's retreat and it was amazing and um
and I had this real deep desire within
me after the you know meeting with the
lady the energy here looks like I want
to be a healer I was just overwhelmed to
consume what did with them I want to be
a healer I want to be a healer then I'm
having this dot I'm having this inward
dialogue with God it's like no you don't
want to be nothing you already are
y'all ready are healing a healer if you
keep wanting to be something you you
always gonna keep chasing that you want
to be it because that's already within
you we just have to focus on bringing it
out creating it and it's already there
you're not you don't have to you don't
have to that's the kingdom of heaven is
within you don't have to look for
anything outside of yourself you don't
have to buy anything that they're
selling you everything is within for you
to go within and experience and
encounter the the depths of God the
depths of the spirits in the death of
who you are and to really embody that
and so when I understood that it was
like man I don't need anything outside
of myself and then begin to show me
different ways about how I heal people
through whether it's being empathic and
being a man of prayer and being putting
healing modalities and my music and all
of these types of things that you
already are this and you're already
manifesting if you want to do this now
begin to help gift steps I gone within
getting the steps and up pulled out my
sort of writing stuff down I still that
was that was four years ago now I think
it was I've still got the the piece of
paper folded up on my wallet of the
steps that I was given to make that
happen and you don't you're not becoming
you already are it's the fact we're just
bringing it out of you absolutely
so I guess it'd be a good place to end I
really enjoyed it go ahead and tell
people where they could check out your
book and check out your latest work well
thank you I really enjoyed our
conversation too the best place I would
get it is on Amazon because the
hardcover is now the same price as the
people back and it's I really and then
just look up a line and if you're gonna
order it I would do the hardcover and
also it's on eBook or Kendall to awesome
make sure you guys check that out I'll
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said y'all check that out support her
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www.weg.net
not with me today it's been a blast
thank you so much we have to do it again
soon yes thank you it was a pleasure all
right you have a good one you too don't
tell Rene ladies and gentlemen really
enjoyed this episode a lot of technical
difficulties I'm sitting here looking at
my internet the whole time and uh man
the the upload speeds it's going in and
out so I'm sorry for the technical
difficulties hopefully once I've seen
that happening I ended up recording this
on the cloud so my download was great
150 to 180 download that's for really
fast but download means nothing when
you're uploading broadcasting you need
to have at least eight to broadcast HD
and I had anywhere from four to zero and
it would drop out so sorry about those
inconsistencies hopefully we'll be able
to get that fixed here soon cuz I got
some really cool interviews coming up so
I did record this hopefully I can piece
together all the audio and make it sound
good and you guys can watch it again
later so I didn't have any blips or any
mess-ups from her in so if you're
listening it was in and out I recorded
it also recorded the last interview that
I did that kind of the same thing
happened so I need to get to the bottom
of that see what's going on with these
people so with that man I enjoyed this
this interview I hope I don't sound I
think I will though like I'm so hoping
I'm sounding redundant I hope I'm not
too repetitive like I know I said the
same things a lot I said the same things
a lot in my music you begin to repeat
yourself over and over the message
hasn't changed like it's still the same
message from day one so there's nothing
I don't know like I have so much with
Demi that I'm trying to articulate and
get out
I would be a spoiled brat to keep
wanting more I'm still receiving more
but I'm not like I'm trying to be a good
Stewart with what I've been given put it
that way so I've tried to find neat ways
and interesting ways to get that
information out to the mat to the masses
whether it's through different ways of
saying the same thing that's all you get
in my music you know I'm saying you get
there's only a handful of things and at
the end there's only one essence of it
at the end of the day but uh I don't
know maybe it's because I'm the creator
and I'm the one who knows where this
stuff comes from and how its put
together but um it is what it is
I don't know if there's any new
everybody's looking for the new rep the
new revelations we're other aliens
saying what is God saying what is this
saying what's up what's happening
everybody wants something new y'all
haven't even done the work with the old
stuff yet you know I'm saying I want a
new word from God I need a new word I
think fresh outpouring you already had
an outpouring you didn't do nothing with
that one what you're gonna do with this
outpouring nothing yeah so it be
faithful with the few he'll make you
ruler over more you want more be
faithful with what he's already given
you that's truth on everything like how
can true seeker how can you be faithful
with your own podcast in your own
business and paying taxes and all this
crazy stuff how can you be faithful with
that when you can't be faithful to get
up and clock in and go to work and and
not complain you like you're yeah you're
going but you're complaining the whole
time you complaining the whole time yeah
but I do it and you don't do it
complaining the Bible says to do all of
your work as you're doing it unto the
Lord isn't the Lord the one who opened
up the doors and you're there to begin
with
does he let you do things that he
doesn't know about is he not there
watching does he not oversee it like is
this something that you can do to hide
from him Adam tried that didn't really
work that well he was able to see him
put clothes lose naked put clothes on
what are you doing I'm naked man trying
to cover up trying to hide your sin
that's the sin is trying to hide it I
don't necessarily think that it was the
fact that he ate the the apple with even
all that stuff like I don't think that's
necessary factor he tried to cover it up
and hide it like there's grace for you
it's healing
there's repentance it's all that for you
but his sin is when you get crazy start
trying to hide it up premeditate it you
have to go kill the animals and take the
skins and on and you had to make that
stuff when you easily could just walk in
forgiveness walk in love and confess
your sin look I screwed up God I'm sorry
if you still love me yeah I love you man
I made you I knew you was gonna do it
right
my God is a part Adam why did you do
such a thing it's like look man I put
that within you you're going to go after
those things
but you're not gonna stay with them I
knew you was gonna go after those things
look I already knew it ain't nothing new
look I put it within you cuz wine you
just like me
made of my image I saw what I did it too
right
that's the Creator man but the sin is
when you're trying to hide it you're
trying to cover it up the sin is the
premeditation the sin is the second look
we talk about this a lot the sin is the
second look the sin is not like you
driving in your car you look at a woman
and you just try and you know you notice
her voluptuous body and you immediately
watch she's really beautiful that's a
beautiful woman I enters your mind the
sin is if you keep entertaining it like
if you keep dwelling or you keep trying
to take a peek or you keep looking back
over your shoulder and you have to
sometimes ethic not sometimes a lot of
times you have to consciously make
yourself not look I mean sister the
thing man is so crazy it's like it's
something it's a mechanism in the way
that we're built do you want to look at
that thing that's kind of odd the thing
that's off on somebody right there's
this lady and it's a sushi restaurant
and she's just I mean she's got her
boobs pushed up real big and spandex and
little she's busting out of all over her
clothes on purpose right and and you
can't help but notice her she's a
good-looking woman and during your face
right and there's these women you have
to like consciously tell yourself not to
look at their boobs because they've
pushed up in your face and you're trying
to make eye contact hi I would like to
get the Bama roll please
making direct eye contact but it's
something in you not that not even the
lustful thing right not even that you're
like oh my god they're just so
not even that thing but the thing that's
like this is weird and you just want to
look at it trust me it's the same way I
have friends with jacked-up teeth and
they have brown one tooth this brown one
tooth is yellow the next one's brown and
black and when I'm talking to them it's
just weird telepathic thing where they
know that I'm trying to I'm looking at
their teeth and I'm trying not to look
at the teeth what's wrong was your teeth
hey how are you
damn entities damn entities you're
trying not to look at the teaser trying
to make a maintain eye contact so it's
not about the the big boobs in your face
or their messed-up teeth there's
something within us that we're like we
look at the things that are different
you know something is going on you know
it's crazy so crazy I don't know what it
is if somebody's got something jacked up
on their face you like keep looking at
if they got a lazy eye you're like what
do I you're trying to like look at their
nose but you're and that's even weird
this gets totaled and holding next level
crazy because they know you're looking
at it right or becomes like you can
discern that they know you know that
they know are you trying to have a
conversation with that person and they
know that you're there like trying to
she's trying to get you to look at her
boobs right you're like I'm not gonna do
it I'm not doing it all right crazy
spiritual warfare out here ladies and
gentlemen
it's all part of it it's all part of it
um staying conscious don't let the devil
get you don't fall victim I could say
this uh um there's a good song about
that too man if you guys want to listen
to it it's um by casting casting Crowns
it all starts with the first look we'll
try to think it's called slow fade man I
want to read I'm gonna read these lyrics
man this is so good it's like it starts
with that that first alright now we get
those thoughts Chantel just told you she
gets those thoughts I get those thoughts
we all do we're not exempt from it and
the Bible talks about spiritual warfare
it's talking about those lofty thoughts
that you're having that they come it's
when you dwell on it that it begins to
give birth to the next start and uh
Kenny posted a comment here a little
while ago he said that your life is
based off of choices right and then each
choice and you're just responding to the
previous choice that you made even when
they're bad choices right so I'm making
all these bad choices and you're you're
like six months down the road responding
off of it you know still being affected
- and making choices based off of a
choice you made six months ago you're
working at a job looking for another job
because you signed that resume and went
to the interview that was a choice that
you did so everything is based off the
choices
you know I don't think it's the first
sin so anyway this uh this song slow
fade I'm not gonna play it but I'm gonna
read the lyrics be careful little eyes
what you see is the second glance that
ties your hands
as darkness pulls the strings be careful
little feet where you go for it's the
little feet behind you that are sure to
follow
it's a slow fade when you give yourself
away it's a slow fade when black and
white are turned to gray and thoughts in
vain choices are made a price will be
preyed paid when you give yourself away
people never crumble in a day it's a
slow fade it's a slow fade be careful
little ears what you hear this is good
guys when flattering leads to compromise
the end is always near be careful little
lips what you say for empty words and
promises leave broken hearts are stray
it's a slow fade when you give yourself
away next part the journey from your
mind to your hands it's shorter than
your thinking be careful if you think
you stand you just might be sinking
people never Cumberland crumble in a day
as a slow fade be careful little eyes
what you see anyway be careful it's wood
your entertainment we're entertaining
it's in garbage in garbage out it's not
what go
into a man that comes out for what comes
out it's not what goes into a man that
defiles him but what comes out but if
you're putting in garbage more than
likely that stuff's gonna regurgitate
some someplace I remember when I first
first came to the Lord and uh was
working on renewing my mind but the life
of me I was tormented by master P lyrics
tormented by master pilla every I could
not get master P out of my head I'm like
I'm just want to think lofty thoughts
good thoughts beautiful thoughts and all
I'm thinking and it's just replaying
over and over in my head for days man
cuz I had filled my mind up with those
thoughts they're like second nature and
this comes up that's why the Bible says
to to meditate upon the Word of God and
it's something about your hearing be
careful a little ears what you hear
Bible talks about hearing it talks about
what you see baba says faith comes by
hearing and hearing by the Word of God
faith comes by hearing okay so what
you're listening to this podcast serves
is that right music definitely serves
lectures teaching preaching whatever
whatever you're listening to is going to
come back up
be careful little ears what you hear be
careful little eyes what you see the
things that you're looking at throughout
the day guess what you're gonna see when
you close your eyes ooh it's gonna come
back up garbage in garbage out
what you're beholding who the eyes the
eyes are the window to the soul what
you're beholding it's going to come back
up when you close your eyes trust me umm
job said this he said I've made a
covenant with my eyes that I might not
look upon an evil thing then he went on
to say us if I happen to look upon this
evil I happen to look upon this
wickedness may it not cling to me cling
to me
how is looking at something gun to allow
it to cling to you because you really
sometimes you have no choice right Wow
but the first times that you've seen a
dirty magazine or a pornographic film or
something when you most of us when we
were little like we just work digging or
plundering or found it late slaying out
whatever the case is like it does
something to you like so you're like a
victim to that you don't really have a
choice at that time but in we're talking
about earlier like what I'm doing now is
based off of choices or experiences
moreover that I had when I was four I'm
doing this because of encounters I've
had in this in the spirit realm when I
was a kid right just because one
experience led to the next one question
allowed me to dig and ask ask another
question until you go deeper and deeper
and deeper and deeper any things just
kind of start making sense
the same way when it comes to maybe
those pornographic images that you've
seen and entertain when you were a kid
you think that this is what sex looks
like you think that this is what love
looks like you think that it's as cat is
supposed to be casual cause these people
in these magazines in these movies
they're having sex and it was going
one-night stands in his casual and you
you're responding to something that
happened to you when you was a kid it's
casual
it's okay do it with as many people as
you want son whatever you don't know the
implications of this stuff and people
are still responding later into their
adult life from something that happened
to them when they were four when they
were seven when they were 11 12 13 16 20
whatever it is you're responding to life
off of a belief of a pattern from an
experience that you had which wasn't
even your fault to begin with but you're
essentially the victim that's why the
Bible talks about renewing the mind man
we've got to renew the mind get those
thoughts out of there cast them down it
says every imagination and high thing
that exalts itself against the knowledge
of God anything that goes against your
greater good anything that goes against
that which is true and beautiful don't
entertain him
you have the power to do that don't
entertain it as it leads to patterns man
destructive patterns in your life it's
deep it gets deeper I'm not even gonna
go into a lot of everything about sex
virtual attachments marriage sexes
marriage
biblically when you exchange the energy
to Bible says the two become one flesh
when you come together like that Bible
also says that he who joins himself to a
harlot becomes one flesh there's science
secular science proving this new
theories that you retain the DNA from
all of your past sexual partners you
don't just forget about that many of you
fast and pray to forget about those
things and it still doesn't go away
that's how powerful it is if you know
better you do better it's crazy I'm
gonna I'm gonna go into a little bit
more detail on that I've been writing
some stuff in the past but I think I'm
gonna include it in my book as well um
because it's very spiritual it's
definitely dealing with the spirit realm
coming into one flesh to become a one
flesh is definitely a spiritual topic
that needs to be discussed and how
that's performed and
all that kind of stuff so anyway I've
still been um writing I've been doing
some some more writing and uh woke up
this morning to get a good bit done to
cover the topic of fasting at a couple
pages on fasting in there and the
spiritual implications of that um that's
it
that'll do well thank you guys for the
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