Ancient Aliens and The Nomoli Sacred Stone Sculptures and Deities  Ben Vonderheide
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did I say it right yes Ben von der Heide
so we're gonna be getting into some
really cool stuff today you said this is
your second podcast that you've ever
done and you guys have been trying to
get a lot of information about this
subject asking around all over Facebook
and things like that there's a lot of
gray area when it comes to this but it
is a very interesting subject and it's
multi-layered and we're gonna be talking
about the physical side of what you do
as well as the spiritual connections
that it has as well but we're gonna be
talking about the stones which are the
no MOLLE is that how you pronounce that
no MOLLE stones yes no Marlene stones no
Morley's stones from Africa man so if
you want to go ahead and
a quick background introduction about
who you are what you bring to the table
be a great place for us to start moving
forward yes well thank you to the seeker
for inviting me on your show I'm very
grateful and honored and welcome to the
world of know Molly conversely it's got
to be good
yeah no Molly I can I can assure you
well but this way as I said it'd be nice
if someone on any one listener out on
your show has any information they will
contribute because we are on a
truth-seeking mission about normally
stones along the way we have found
information and amassed that which we're
going to share today with your your
listeners and I'm confident that we will
impart information about these stones
that that they've never heard and they
can then be the ones to share it with
others and that's what I'm here for is
tissue to a campaign of awareness and
exposure if you will having had the
stones for many years and then coming
out and going out more to the public a
couple of few years back and finding
that there were so scarce information on
them that in one sense it would put you
in a position where you recognize the
responsibilities that you now have
something that you need to spread as as
you do with your show do you have
information that is valid the pertinent
in today's world and can change lives
and help perhaps and you want to get it
out so what are no Molly stones no Molly
or sacred car stones found in West
Africa and only in the countries of
Sierra Leone Liberia and Guinea they're
found deep in the bush and unlike other
stones that are found in grave sites
burial sites or at ancient temples these
are found randomly in the jungle quite
often well very independently and I will
share with you some of the theories but
in fact the bottom line is no one knows
who buried them and no one knows how
long ago they were
no current African would state that his
great-grandfather was an artistic genius
who created no Mali they would claim
their gifts from the gods so it'd
probably be publicly be best to start
back up with what are normally over all
the know Mali diet deities if you wrote
and know Mali were the tribal beliefs
are that and I thought we forget we just
had a recent development with the
relation to the Dogon which is very
interesting I'm sure many of your
listeners have heard of those but the no
Mali gods but according to tribal
beliefs were lived in the heavens and
misbehaved and were banished if you were
forced to earth
some of us might be feel the same way
punishment anyway so they were they were
reigned as they rain down upon the earth
from the skies long ago and time before
time if you will and they lived with the
natives they imparted wisdom information
knowledge and helped out the natives in
in the ways that they could and they
were said to have left these stones as
tools to be used and as messages from
them to the society
now the normally stones are known they
have been they were first discovered by
the outside world by Portuguese sailors
in the 1600s and they were there a bit
on a couple of shelves back in the
1990's I understand the unsolved
mysteries did a short piece on some that
were found in strata that dated to about
17,000 years ago they are very few
people in the African art world I found
having now spent some time with the
museum African art museum and having
exhibited these stones there and on to
the functions various various functions
and met many people looking again for
information I've found that there were
very few people who know of them as
African art so they're known but I know
now why are the unknown
the professor would say my friend
professor Kokua for anza would say that
is for a variety of reasons the first is
because they were berrykin de Graaff so
they are underground and unknown for
many years but more to the point it is
social religious political scientific
these various realms cultural reasons
and start with the religious in those in
those areas of West Africa the primary
religious movement has been from the
Muslim and the Christian sect mostly
your more radical of those sex would be
going in to have an influence on the
tribal nations and to convert them those
both of Muslims and Christians when they
find something like an O'Malley stone if
they found it was being used they would
assign automatically not only that it
was not valuable because it was a lot of
their beliefs but they would assign
negative evil onto it and thereby
destroyed and and toward any any
knowledge or threating of that word
politically in those countries generally
speaking again Muslim the Muslim the
leaders of the country are going to be
with the predominant religious group and
that is again back to that same beliefs
and they will go along with those
religious trends so they can be popular
if you want to succeed financially etc
etc now culturally it's interesting if
you were to related to say the Native
American culture where there is a huge
resurgence and has always been an honor
and a pride with their antiquated rather
their primitive beliefs and their
ancient beliefs and practices people are
picking up the value of those they use
those they go to POW wells or myself
I've gone to powwow in West Africa and
in Africa there's a great desire to be
seen
as modern and anything primitive is not
popular it's not something they want to
be identified with even when I've spoken
with Professor African professors at
universities around the United States
they will wear the garb and they will be
attached to the society in the certain
regard but when we start talking about
into the old least the tribal practices
they will immediately distance
themselves because they feel that they
begin wouldn't be seen as modern and
civilized and they do not want to be
identified with primitives so that has
also been a factor into why they have
been suppressed I think the reasons here
so what are they there are stones they
start from a couple of inches to foot
and a half and they're primarily made
out of soapstone hand carved events were
carved out of soapstone and somewhere
out of granite and we have some that are
out of iron stone what you see they come
in various designs if you will you could
categorize them and traditional normally
but traditional normally is one that I'm
holding in my hand right now would be a
female fertility figure and that one
would represent the standard
characteristics of animali their legs
are always squatted and their eyes are
exaggerated because the native says that
their eyes were like looking into the
Sun you cannot look at them and their
lips are often exaggerated as well be
other features and as with this one this
would be a fertility figure for a female
so it would be used for those specific
rights purposes etc then you would have
a male traditional and this is the no
Molly or the natives believe that the
normally gods infused their powers into
the crocodile
and that the crocodile were a
representation they also they were
amphibious then he went to the Dogon I
was mentioning a new development which
is covered but they were invidious and
that was one of the reasons why the
natives revered and they could live on
in the water and underground and in fact
they could they were prejudiced who
could take the man on the ground or in
the water and so this would be an
O'Malley against squatter figure a male
figure this would be a chief who would
be what chief would be infused with the
qualities and the attributes 15 normally
would have inspire and the crocodile is
infused if you'll see crawling up the
back of this normally figure and the
head of the crocodile almost forming a
hat if you will on top of the of the
figure looks like a mohawk yeah like a
mohawk of out of a crocodile oh thank
you I just did something here I still
see you okay okay then I'm not going to
worry about so we've got the traditional
normally then we have some of them that
are more that are infused that are if
you will conjoined between set more
human figures more humanistic and with
no Mali attributes also so and then you
have others that are purely humanistic
in their images you have some I'm not
sure if you have them but when I was
doing my research on these there were
some that look like reptilian-type
beings that look like what people would
say the you know the reptilian race of
aliens look like is that some of the
ones that debt that are you have as well
or well yes over the years we have
collected there's quite a few stones in
fact I came to find we have them
very world-class collection from with
the festered and some of the ones that I
have personally been able to connect to
and find are unusual in that they have
the most prevalent most predominant the
feature is the elongated heads and I'll
pull it up and if you can see that one
now this again is a chief figure because
he has a staff he is a revered figure he
is does have the shortened or legs of an
O'Malley not completely but relatively
and he has some features but his head is
extremely elongated similar to the
stones from Central America and others
which we've seen on the television
programs etc that they would attach to
ancient aliens so that's why we have the
ancient alien stones calm sight and
that's one of the things we are looking
for information on such a connection so
out of all of them this not a lot but
there are a few they have the elongated
head there's another one with elongated
head and almost some type of a head so
something on its head and and then we
also have along so we have a small group
of them that are would be configured in
a manner that would be consistent with
the ancient alien mm-hmm genre just from
their stature they look like they could
be some type of pygmy type species like
they aren't very tall when some of the
other reptilian statues are really tall
and slender have you looked into the
pygmy
stands up in all of these were physical
beings that showed up how tall would you
think that these entities or beings
would look well according to the natives
they were very very large they were
large okay it's in fact excuse me there
is a there's a stone if you look online
there was one that sold at sotheby's
auction
some years back normally and it is the
no molly riding on an elephant
the elephant is dwarfed by the no mom
okay there's another one we have with
the know Molly's standing on an elephant
or riding an elephant standing on a
turtle and in something dogon another
some believe that oh god some tracks of
their visualized the earth as a turtle
and so the image again is the Dogon
dwarfing the elephant and and large
compared to the earth
so the the beliefs are that they were
larger than normal humans by far
this one's interesting - this is now
there are a couple of variety of twin
stones I know there's a twin movement in
and out there 11:11 movement in the twin
movement and there are some twin stones
that have two heads in one face in each
way some have divided where one side of
the head looks like a different being
and the other side the head now this is
an interesting twin stone and this is
I've seen this image one of the time
online
this is young stone such as this I've
been able to acquire and this one has to
know Mali and as you can see they are
squatted and they're facing their feet
are touching them they're laying down
and what could be considered half of us
are coffee cos and they are so this is
the age of this is kind of a good piece
to tell about some information that we
get from a stone let's take this piece
as an example from the bush and just
came out of the bush the word was this
was a tombstone it was to be given to a
mother when she had twins for the care
and protection of the twins and the
mother both and it was a highly revered
stone would be used in ceremonies and
then she would keep it near her now when
we show this to Professor Carranza who
was the art professor Howard University
for 37 years I believe and was born in
Ghana very genius and very well
knowledgeable world-class knowledgeable
or in these things he would identify
that this image represents when the
physical and the spiritual beings of
each of us joined together and become a
higher human if you will yet when you
show this to someone from the ancient
alien theory they would say that this
potentially is the image of two normally
has they rained down from the heavens in
a sarcophagus when they came down this
would have lifted up off the top and
this would have been what the natives
proceeded
so again interesting then we will also
show them two and hand them to stone
whispers if you will who can hear the
messages inside the stones or and that's
it I mean that's something I want to
talk about as well because one of the
really intriguing things about these
these stones is the connection to
something spiritual and you said you
went to a event at MUFON where a lady
talked about being healed from one of
the stones I listened to some of the
presentations on the website well
another lady at the antique place or
whatever was talking about how our lady
came came in and was talking with her
and she couldn't stop looking at her
like it was trying to communicate with
her or just calling out to her or
something like there's this vibration or
something behind it and it really
intrigues me for the thing you're
talking about whether they're they have
messages that are stored in the stone a
really interesting thing for me is
understanding like Terence Mckenna talks
about a lot of psychedelics and
mushrooms and things like that but
there's these different artifacts that
the ETS have left behind for us to
communicate with them through almost
like a walkie talkie like this statue or
this plant or whatever it may be there's
you know talismans with which we're in
the Bible and stuff like that that they
use to remind them of their essence so
when you see this you're gonna be
reminded of me and literally we can
communicate when you look at this almost
like if a Christian or a Catholic would
look at the cross or look at Jesus hang
the cross it immediately reminds them to
Jesus they feel warm at heart and they
feel protected and secured and so this
type of stuff going on with that what
were some of the the spiritual or
supernatural connections that you've
heard or experience with these with
these stones well yes I was actually
raised Roman Catholic in and I know
there was always a trade in the Saints
yeah whether it was their garments or
their teeth or their hair or exactly
passed down yeah they said you wouldn't
be a true Catholic Church without having
one of Peters bones in your church right
have you heard that
I wouldn't surprise me well yeah and I'm
a person who supports anybody's right to
believe what they want and just remain
open-minded myself I know God didn't
check with me when he made things you
see if I'm agreed he would understand
them so I know there are great things
after occurring as far as the stones yes
I had had the stones for some years and
and and I have myself I've meditated all
my life and and I've used the stones of
meditation I also personally am NOT a
American Medical Association individual
so much I have actually hadn't have a
doctor since in seventeen that's for two
years I've been grateful to God I
haven't been plagued with any disorders
that require data and I understand there
are many people who do need doctors or
not as blessed with health as I am but I
tend to think that way and I have
surrounded myself with those type of
individuals so I would have found others
who have used two stones I guess we
could start off with a funny story my
brother in Florida my brothers are
skeptic so I sent him a stone a while
ago some years back now it's been maybe
a Turk Ain and he had to stone I think
he was using as a doorstop or something
he wasn't revering it very I
and his neighbors who are great people
were over there partying he's a big big
party guy central party USA over his ass
all the time a lot of fun and and these
they were talking about the neighborhood
to talk about how they couldn't get a
child have a child and they've been to
many doctors and they had not been
successful and he said well that stupid
goofy stone over there supposedly
fertility why don't you take that with
you
so I took the stone with him half
heartedly just for a chance and she got
pregnant and she took the stone back and
she lost a baby and she took the stone
back again and got pregnant and she now
has two children and I think eight of
nine six eight and she believes that the
stone was responsible and she then gave
it to another friend of hers who was
having trouble having a child and who
used it also so I I can't say that
there's any documented evidence because
as I've said there's no that we can't
find anybody who's used to stones but I
thought that was interesting my brother
is now still somewhat of a skeptic but
he's skeptical on his own skepticism
because how did that happen and whether
anybody else believes it or not those
mothers believe and that's what matters
can it help them out I have had other
friends of mine but yeah we talk about
the the show MUFON now as I was telling
you is interesting we went about trying
to find out about my own stones at first
and that's when I found out there was
such a lack of information eventually I
hooked up with the professor we
exhibited our stones at the Museum at
the African Art Museum of Maryland small
but very prestigious and that's where
you saw the video yes where one young
lady said she couldn't take her eyes off
the stone and as Doris said to the
director of the museum the results were
well beyond what she had envisioned the
response at that at the Museum I then
met people there and went to the
different functions and well let me get
back to the the
the after that what I found out was
there wasn't much information about him
either that there was very few people in
the African art world knew about him so
much but let me just take this through
this so you see where I end up then I
went to the Internet I had my son
contact all the groups on Facebook and
start putting out feelers to groups that
have hundreds of thousands of members
over and over again for six months with
pictures of the images of the stone
different ones saying has anybody ever
seen these stones you have any spirits I
think you tell us about we're working on
the assembling information for the book
and we can find nobody that's ever used
or has any knowledge of these stones in
America for the most part and over that
period of time we found no one
absolutely no one got back to us would
ever heard of those stones at these all
the ancient alien sites the ancient
civilization sites the healing sites the
psychic sites amazing so I took him to
some shows with psychics that powerful
powerful readings you could see them
just like electric Jones went through
them when they held the stones and then
I said okay well let's take him to the
MUFON so we went to MUFON international
that was July this year summer and then
we went to MUFON Philadelphia and we set
up a booth and we exhibited the stones
and I anticipated that there would be
people there who were experts in this
who would know of these stones and again
we found that with one exception and I
could explain that in a minute there was
only one exception not one person who
these people who spent their whole life
underneath the alien theories and they
know the stones from all the other
places not one person had ever heard of
Noman stones with the exception of bill
burns neat guy actually we ended up
driving him home that night after the
show very nice guy he's the gentleman
who started the show UFO Hunters he was
the keynote speaker and he started on
the show UFO Hunters most of you viewers
probably remember that show and he said
he'd heard of the know Molly day at
deities in Africa but he did not know
they were stoned
so it's amazing to me that well and then
at the show yes there was a gentleman he
came through and him and it is he him
and his to his sister and his friend who
was a healer and they picked up one of
the stones they say could we touch this
down and try the stone and it was the
twin stone here that I have and they
took it Nate they sat down and some
chairs and it was just striking there
was you could just feel something going
on over there and when he first came
this gentleman when I first showed up he
was just kind of not alert he apparently
had been having great neurological
issues and he was essentially being led
for the most part by his sister and he
didn't seem to recognize all that much
of just didn't seem to be real alert
I'd say that was one nice guy very
friendly but just not alert didn't seem
like he was fully there and after that
occurred when he came back he seemed
like he had just been woken up and he
said he had experienced a phenomenal
healing they all three had tears in
their eyes and yes it was quite
impressive he called me a few days later
and said he had felt a shock as if he
had been lit up again while he was
sleeping and had visualized that stone
were in his own home at the same event I
was there was a woman who was on a
motorized cart and she came up and she
got about 6 feet away from mourning
stones and she stopped and she started
crying and she said she couldn't come
any closer right now and she came back
later
she did a reading on one of the stones
and thanked us for bringing this down
once and said you were doing great work
well they are having a impact on people
in in in different types of ways right
um so I haven't asked you yet and I
wanted to ask you and other people are
asking in the chat how did you acquire
these stones how did you get your hands
on them and they're also for sale you
have some for sale on the website how
much does something like this go for and
how do you get your hands on them
well the story of how I acquired and
we'll take a minute so let me first
answer them yes the stones no Molly
stones are generally speaking if you if
you look in the auctions you'll see
their track they six to twelve thousand
is a probably an average price for some
no Molly's are stay in line with that
although the value is somewhat higher
because they were a museum exhibited I
don't think as far as I can find that
you can find any museum exhibited
authenticated no Molly available for
sale other than these and we want to put
them in people's hands to have this
impact instead of I'm sitting in museums
we want to see as you you know our
friend Jeff the shaman in Florida
acquired a stone and it it told him it
wanted to use it on all his healings and
he's used it on all his healings he one
of his late one of his clients acquired
another one and so okay back to the
price I mean we have some traditional
know Molly's that are only a few
thousand again between six and twelve is
the average we've got to the large
larger ones which are considerably more
expensive and of course the ones that
have the the ancient alien heads and
those type of images they are very
unique and and so they be at the top of
that range as far as how to acquire you
can contact me on the website and we do
have some of them and we're interested
also and in tracking them after we put
them out there so that we can get more
information for the book and the
documentary which I believe is
inevitable at this point in time because
that's the way these things were more
revealed in today's
but a book is going to be a nice start
we're going to use these also in the
book this collection and we're going to
start off with a coffee book coffee
table book if you will which is the
pictures is the phenomenal thing that
will attract and we will have
information and then of course we'll go
back over to Africa and do some further
research before we do a complete book
knowing now that there isn't a book that
covers the subject matter how I acquired
the stones is an interesting story -
over the years a couple of times and one
time in particular I was there was an
attempt to recruit me into the
intelligence community by my from a
friend of mine that became a friend of
mine showed up at my door one day and a
shout-out to him as spirit has been long
off the planet but he went by the name
of Bill diamonds in West Africa and I
want to be I want to be respectful and
cautious because I know that there is
further there's a great animosity
towards West African in the diamond area
this gentleman was a diamond man there
is and there were people that were hurt
over there and maybe some of the
relatives of those who were hurt will
someday be listening to one of these
podcasts and we don't want to be
insensitive it's so we don't want to be
insensitive but at the same time I want
to tell the story so my friend bill
diamonds was a diamond smuggler if you
will then he worked for the intelligence
community of the United States
he's long enough off planet what to
worry about that and he was a very rare
and original a real adventurer character
what a blast he would drop off he'd go
over flying the free tango the kind of
create jump up and go plane up to Guinea
and he dropped out of there and he'd
ride in the Jeep for a while and he'd be
up in in the deep Bush we would refer to
as jungle from our days of watching
Tarzan we were young and he would go
into the bush him and his guide and he
would wander around he'd say hey I'll be
back in six months
and maybe it'd be six months but more
likely to be a year or two and he'd come
out of the bottom of the jungle with
diamonds and information so bill
recruited me and then at the same time
another individual recruited me to get
involved in Nigeria I got very little
bit involvement I it was not the right
guy for that I'm not dubious enough I
again I go on I understand both sides I
understand it our government wants to be
knowledgeable and needs to protect us on
the other hand I'm not always sure that
our government is doing the right things
here my own investigative reporting is
proving that often we're not doing the
right thing here and I'm not sure we do
them over there and I'm just I felt I'd
get in I'd probably fall in love with
the people and end up fighting against
the government and I think my government
would leave me alone or I think the
United States government would not be I
could not count on you when I was in
deep bush but anyway 4,000 regions the
point is that I was not inclined in the
long run to pursue that but I was
inclined and always had been inclined
Erdman interested in spiritual and
healing and religious of all nature
facts and experience I have always been
open and I've meditated and worshiped
and sang with everything from Native
Americans to Hindus to the Christians
and to with Jewish know no reservations
so I had asked that my interest was more
the spiritual and the those areas and
when I began to collect some of the
items from him he had I have some masks
you'll see wooden masks also on the site
and a couple of swords but I asked him
not to give me any more swords cuz I
just don't like places but they
represent the energy is not what I'm and
so I took an interest in the know Molly
and acquired all that were available oh
that word that were authentic and that
were powerful over the many years
thinking that there must be many other
people out there doing the same thing
but certainly my friend had access to
and and and connections to the Chiefs
deep in the bush that other people would
not have now they would get them because
of a couple of reasons one that's we
think of the the bush in Africa's where
scars are scarcely or sparsely populated
I think is determined looking for you
know we remember the again the Tarzan
show whether it be a tribe with maybe
fifty you know well there's there's a
hundreds of thousands of people living
out there this is quite a great world
going on out there
and the Chiefs are the officials of
their own areas and they would have
these local people bring them to that
once the word got out that we were
looking for them they they'd already
been bringing him over but they they
brought more when they became available
they also have become more available
because again of the Muslim primarily
but the Christian over some periods of
time they would use both they use the
normally at the ceremonies and they knew
they'd celebrate the Muslim events to to
placate the entity connected to the
money flow the political power but as
time proceeded the Muslim power got less
and less tolerant it eventually pushed
B's out yeah so where they are protected
now because they won't be destroyed if
they are yeah that's a ton of videos of
some of the Islamic sects and stuff
going into ancient temples and just
destroying everything I mean there's
videos that I'm taking hammers and
mallets and bats in there and just
tearing everything up any type of statue
and ancient relic that it's contrary to
their narrative they're gonna try to
destroy it I mean even when like some of
the earlier stuff there's some good
documentaries out there that cover this
when it's it was the secret space
documentary there was a whole I think
Chris Evert put that out years ago
there's several of them
but when we went into Baghdad and things
like that showed the US government tanks
just running through these you know
temples and buildings with ancient
relics and I'm just crushing everything
and it's really weird whenever someone
you know even in biblical times when a
nation gets conquered the first thing
they do is they go to all of their holy
relics and gods or whatever and they try
to destroy everything so that there's no
more memory of it here on the earth and
so that's what the US has been doing
that's what the Islamic nations have
been doing and trying to you know to
push their agenda and their narrative so
years later we don't understand what's
what anymore we don't know what the
Library of Alexandria had we don't know
what the Sphinx actually looked like and
some of the other things that are there
that have been destroyed over the years
and stuff so it's very interesting that
that's happening and it's really cool
that you guys have them in the museum as
well there so I wanted to ask you as far
as doing your research have you studied
the work of Graham Hancock at all
Wow definitely look up Graham Hancock
he's a researcher philosopher lecturer
when it comes to this stuff with uh you
know ancient temples and stuff like that
a lot of big stuff on
I think it's go Beckley Tepe that was in
Turkey that they found are you familiar
with that temple yes yes ah with these
huge statues of these reptilian type
angelic figures you know mixed in in in
into the the temples and stuff some
really interesting stuff that was just
recently found I want to say within 10
years ago you know so very interesting
check out Graham Hancock's work um what
about this name credo moot wha
have you checked out his work no I
you know I've he's from Africa as well
and and definitely check out the work of
credo moot wha David Icke has like a
six-hour interview with him and he he's
from Africa he has all of these little
alien statues and and he has all of
these crazy stories where he talks about
the Dogon he talks about
communicating with these ETS and these
different rituals and stuff that they
would perform and they would give out
statues and relics and stuff and they
would have to do crazy like really deep
you know makes the Masonic initiations
look like a cakewalk type you know I'm
saying rituals and stuff so Credo moot
wah is definitely you got to check him
out especially researching this stuff
from Africa as well very interesting but
it's something about you know the space
people that came here that there's like
a resurgence on it this stuff is blowing
up we see ancient aliens and so you can
put out a show you know and if it you
know people are gonna watch it but
there's something when it just takes
over in people there based on their
religion off of it they're changing
their religion they're changing their
information then their narratives are
changing going back to the Sumerian
tablets and just some of the other
ancient cultures that predate some of
the stuff that we've been told and stuff
so the ancient alien thing is it's
really cool because all of these
different tribes and you talk about
Native American we're talking about the
Indian tribes from you know the tops
from India as well Christian lore like
Muslim they all talk about these gods
that came down to teach mankind and to
change the DNA and you know what I'm
saying these different things so every
every religion in every tribe on the
face of the earth talks about the so
called Anunnaki type beings that you
know the Zulu nations as well to talk
about those from heaven who came to
earth to to deal with mankind so
Christian narratives are most likely
going to paint the fallen angel picture
it's gonna be kind of weird to kind of
you know I'm saying try to try to speak
to some of them about it but even the
gods or the Elohim of the Bible the gods
of the Bible who came down that were
with Yahweh and they had different
talisman that they created and so
there's like different monuments and
talismans and symbols and things that
they would have that would they had
power and stuff that they believed and
it's really interesting when you start
talking about how when people hold
the artifacts they're able to receive
information or get downloads as we would
call it I have some friends who are who
are in Hawaii who actually dig up really
big chunks of crystal out of the earth
and they call him Lou Mary and crystals
and it's talked about how these crystals
are holding memories and so like you're
saying if you meditate with these relics
with these pieces that come out of the
earth you're able to tap into some type
of higher frequency and and they have
memory too many you know it's it's very
interesting to really talk about the
spiritual aspect behind these Rhiannon
that takes me makes me think of Rebecca
also Rebecca recently bought a stone
acquired a stone Rebecca came in as your
name and Rebecca's she's a professor she
is lived with indigenous tribes for
decades and as a lecturer speaks around
the world right now I think she's in
Singapore she speaks specifically on
where science meets art and the effect
of indigenous tribes upon where science
meets art which was interesting she also
happens to be in a group of professors
that are joined between a number of
universities in United States
studying what are called nanoparticles
the these ghost particles that they've
only recently discovered specifically
she's in the study of neutrinos and the
theory is perhaps these neutrinos that
come from the Sun and they are these
ghost particles pass through everything
or so small and that's why they couldn't
register and identify them there is some
who believe this is the mechanism
whereby we are receiving messages
receiving enlightenment and she came
into I went down to New Hope
Pennsylvania for a few hours and set up
the stones and at the end of that day
she came in she was her birthday and she
was 68 years ago I forget anyways she
looked at the stone and she you knew
right away you could tell by the way she
held it and what happened to her and
when she held it
she acquired the stone and she feels
that that stone it has his little tablet
on the front lever it's one of the ones
some website and we'd always called it
the the tablet it's just a nickname for
with Daphne named Herman and she
identified after she meditated with it
that it was actually described the
tablet was the message to describe and
you know was where the described witness
message and described was delivering
this message and she felt that this
stone she meditated with it she put it
in the center of all her meteors pieces
and everything else she's collected all
of her life as the centerpiece and she
felt like it has to do with her work on
neutrinos now I don't claim to
understand any of what I just told you
but that's that's my job is just to pass
on what other people reveal but it is
interesting what and there were some
guys from that it worked with NASA at
the MUFON international came by who are
supposedly going to get a hold of us and
they want to potentially use one in
research with the group to see if there
is any message that is received does it
do anything is a mechanism to register
any scientific evidence at all or even
just the impressions of other people
that people receive from them I do want
to mention the Dogons
yeah yeah this is a development just
within the last week and a half I as you
said this is my second podcast so you
know we went we went to ancient aliens
TV show I've been talking to David
silver out there for a couple years nice
guy at Prometheus productions he's
excited about the new Molly and as I
point out to him I said David when you
watch this show they show the same stone
the same Stonehenge the same rocks the
same places took likea all these same
places over over again
this is something new they haven't been
able to get it sold to the network yet
they're trying I guess they're doing
themes this at this point in time and
it's they haven't got it the
west-african show yet now I told him I
understand too because you know when
they go to Egypt or someplace like that
as he said they have an entourage that
meets and they take them they get
everywhere they want special access
you're not going to get that in West
Africa
yeah you would have you're not gonna get
those guys are pretty suits to go over
walking around that jungle just say you
know it's very dangerous you have to be
you have to know how to behave and you
have to be connected or you won't come
out it's very simple and so whatever the
reason is that's why we went to the
internet with my son we think what would
kick the message directly to people no
we found no one was aware of him there
then we said okay we'll go to a show we
went through the engineer of the the
MUFON shows and nobody was aware I'm
there so this when after that is when
the first guy who was to show contact me
he said hey do you want do a podcast I
did that podcast just a couple weeks ago
act that somebody noted on there and I'm
gonna quote it was something like
because we talked about the he talked
about the Dogon I told him I don't know
a lot about the Dogon I think most of
your listeners know this much about the
Dogon that they are the tribe which is
attributed with having identified
serious be the ghost star hundreds of
years ago and having believed the Dare
from a place that is surround planet
around the third it was as most of the
third storm maybe up there
it hasn't been filed yet and there's a
planet in that solar system that they
believe they originated from well the
Dogon after he said to her when we've
mentioned that then one of his viewers
like you guys right now Poston said the
Dogon were visited by the Nommo
fish-like beings and I said well that
doesn't mean anything to me it doesn't
sound like any these aren't fish like
beings so I don't know if that relates
but I looked it up online and I found it
that's that looks like the more accurate
translation is that they were visited by
amphibious you being well that makes a
little more sense because no Mali are
often as I showed you the one have that
crocodile on their back and they are as
you said some of them have the image
that looks somewhat reptilian yeah with
nothing so that started making sense and
I said wait a minute
no MOS is their gods that came down and
gave that information about Sirius to
the Dogon No Mas no mas nos no Lee n no
mo Li that's pretty darn close and then
I checked that and I said wait a minute
if the Dogon her from Mali no Molly from
the very country which borders on Sierra
Leone and Guinea in Liberia back in the
day long ago the Mali Empire encompassed
the very areas were these stones are
found so could it be possible that these
were once called the Nomos of Mali
shortened eventually to normal
yeah look that's just something we put
together in the last week and the first
time I mention these on your show here
yeah it's it's very interesting to note
you know the whole water thing the whole
and phibian thing where when we're
looking back at lumeria and some of the
other ancient civilizations that were
said to be here in the warren in the
earth was covered mostly in water right
it's very interesting too because you
talk about the Nommo in the different
fish beings and fish gods and things
like that we look at you know I can't
help but make the connection I don't
know if it's there but Dogon and Dagon
mention up in the Bible and it said that
the mystery religions through the
Catholic Church you know even still
venerate the Piscean deity Dagon that
you know the Catholic priests have these
big hats what they call like a mitre or
a me tree a really big one in the top of
it
look it has an opening and they look
very similar to the ancient Dagon fish
priests or whatever who wore the big
fishes on their head it's really
interesting and there's this other take
I don't know if it fits in but it's
something about the amphibian thing
where even with the Bible now speaking
about Nomo and stuff like that like
there's this take that I've heard
I'm saying not saying that I believe it
but there are people who do who talk
about how the earth was covered in water
at the beginning and we see the Genesis
story come about and somebody was there
or somebody downloaded that information
however Genesis came about that's
between you and whoever but there's a
take that they were and that there was a
race here before that were in phibian
and that they were in the water in
watched Yahweh create the landmass in
Africa right that they were watching and
they were scribing this stuff down as
they'd seen the seven days of creation
take place and God making man and then
God making animals and all these other
beings almost that kind of came in and
took over and so there's a belief there
that that someone actually wrote Genesis
from a first-hand encounter watching the
the creation story happened from the
water so I thought that was very
interesting in it it at least ties into
research to open up more doors of
exploration you're thinking man
obviously connecting dots that's right
I mean that's what you got to do right
if you're trying to get information on
this and there's not a lot of
information out there about those stones
and you know what I'm saying and yeah
you have to use the sources you've
gotten and you've got a hypotheses for
some hypotheses together and then pursue
them and see if they make sense I mean
naturally it's kind of an adventure
isn't it the whole world the whole life
is oh that's way everything that you
approach has to be like that you can't
just take lines or face face value
anymore or say oh this is the truth oh
this is what they present it you just
have you know it's kind of here a little
there a little and putting it together
till it begins to make a picture and
that's how you really get to the bottom
of it understanding these ancient
cultures who were very smart they
weren't just some primitive people like
these people understood the star systems
they're able to see things with the
naked eye that that we're just now
finding about these constellations with
high-powered telescopes and so these
primitive people knew things about the
Stars and drew these star maps and these
maps of land masses in
things like that from an aerial
perspective they were tapped into
something and it's it goes to say that
uh
I believe in those figures who came down
and they left a mark here I don't think
that they I think that they're still
here someone mentioned the fact about
Hollow Earth or these beings or things
coming from out of the earth have you
looked into that at all since these
these came out of the earth I haven't
got any information for that although
you know we have got some potential
theories well in participant a couple of
the stone readers had visualized that
these stones were tens of thousands of
years old some identified them and felt
they were much older than that one of
the things I've recently found that I
was not that aware of is there and even
in academia there's a under there's a
belief that the Egyptian pyramids did
not just come down and that was not the
first pyramids the people built that
before Egypt there was a society a Great
Society along Elam Orion that Atlantean
theories that existed that passed its
knowledge on to Egypt and that then
disappeared into the jungle if you will
many people are the belief that that was
in West Africa and that these these
stones and societies they're far
predated the Egyptian culture and as one
professor said to me said to consider
that all of a sudden they just built
pyramids of that scale is is not very
logical it's more likely that they had
built them other places and and
developed the size and even if the they
received the information on how to do it
from other cultures or from other
sources rather other than the earth
wherever they got it that believe that
they just automatically built the
Society of that level is not as
reasonable as to believe that was a
byproduct of other development and and
higher societies that existed that are
just there's no evidence
again in a place like this there could
be hidden pyramids what many many hidden
periods that have not been discovered in
yeah well let's start finding them it's
very interesting you know we think we
got it all figured out we know
everything but then they find a
civilization underwater they find a
civilization under another one that used
to be there and there's these statues of
the gods and things like that well they
have identified my understanding is from
one of my limited researches recently is
that they have identified that they
claim the Dogon are descendants of the
ancient Egyptians I'm not sure could it
be the other way around yeah I don't
know if they can identify that you know
could they say that the egyptians are
descendants of the Aged oh gods but even
the fact that they're saying as that
though gods are connected to the
egyptians certainly opens up a whole
other iron theories is a whole nother
group of potentials of what could have
been occurring in those empires long ago
in west africa it's long covered over by
growth I'm going to ask you this this is
a question from Ali she wanted to know
have the stones been examined or tested
someone else wants to know have they
been carbon-dated as well examine for
that she also brings a brings up the
question have the stones been x-rayed
and in maybe there's a link maybe not
but this always for those listening who
want to do further exploration the
interesting thing about an x-ray would
be the fact that in India the Yogi's
some of them who have ascended right
they were spending time and met at
meditation and have become petrified or
almost took turned into some type of
stone like figure but when you x-ray it
there's a man inside of there who left
that form behind through meditation and
you have this almost statue left of what
used to be a yogi who has left his body
in a cinder and it's in a petrified
state and even shrunken even so that's
an interesting question when it comes to
being x-rayed as well well simple
question quick answer on
the carbon dating carbon dating cannot
be done on stone carbon dating has to be
done on organic material so when they
carbonate a stone to do is they take the
strata around the stone and as I was
saying this show that I saw evidence of
on the internet the unsolved mysteries
believe it was called they identified a
no no Molly back this was in the 1990s I
believe the show was on that no no Molly
had been found in the blue that blue
stone it comes from meteors and that
this particular fine dated to 17,000
years ago so again what they do is they
find the strata where the no Molly is
buried and if you can get enough of the
dirt around it and there's going to be
some wood decayed in there and other
things that weren't natural decayed
that's what they'll do the the carbon
dating on as I mentioned these stones
are found individually by natives by
diamond miners and they are there is no
strata kept along with them if they're
kept at all and not destroyed as far as
the x-ray that's a good question and
somebody might be too didn't to higher
knowledge here if you look online or no
Molly you'll find also there's another
story of a know Molly figure that was
uncovered some odd years ago I don't
remember and they x-rayed it and they
identified there was a metal wall in the
stomach the stomachs are always are
often extended because that's a
powerpoint that you're that you're
getting energy from anomalies and they
identified this stomach hate a ball and
if they broke open an emollient got it
out and found what I believe I haven't
looked at for a while was a metal ball
bearing if you will that was not
possibly manufacturers at the time you
know money would have been created so
but no I have not
x-rayed these that's interesting yes
somebody was talking about that in a
chat as well about the bi-metal ball
that um so do you think that there's
some people who can try to replicate
these
do you think bill thing you know it's
interesting for something that's unknown
apparently at one point in time there
was a huge market of replicas and frauds
even that were manufactured to look old
so that when I first came out and
identified reached out to people when I
had to collection I was told by the
experts that there that any number
they're all normal in our face there
were no more real anomaly and so that's
when identify found an expert professor
and I took the collection down to him
and put him out on the table and said
you know you tell me but up until then
what I came to find him and if you look
on like an eBay or something you'll see
many no Molly for a couple hundred
dollars and yeah some for some for a
thousand a couple thousand but again
none of them are going to be
authenticated so what we what we did do
was you know when I found out that there
was that concern of Education I was very
confident because of the source and I
mean this man went in he trusted his
guides with his life and I also say this
me I should say this about Bill diamonds
it's important to say is that he went
into the bush for the diamonds but when
he was in here the people really took
his heart I mean he fell in love with
the people when he come into a village
the children would come running and so
he loved it over there anyway so don't
go yes lost Jack let's talk about
there's ya been uh I enjoyed this
episode man thank you so much for coming
on go ahead and plug your website again
folks so people who you know may be
listening on the podcast app they can
actually go and see the pictures of
these stones as well
ancient alien stones calm is the website
I I have would recommend it to look at
the video we have a video we put
together with the professor and the
director of the art museum of the
African art museum and we we have them
showing the video showing the stones
some people that I mean only a few
people will be able to own
stone but many people can receive
something just by looking at them
perhaps and and just increase your
knowledge and see something you haven't
seen before and let other people know
that these are out there that just
there's something out there because for
whatever reason we have been
unsuccessful with getting the den the
ancient alien TV show and to to reveal
this to people they'll do it but in
their time and quite frankly they have a
very successful formula they don't need
our stones they're doing fine without us
but I think that these stones are usable
I think it's an O'Malley if there is
such an energy which I like that
witnessed with other people's use of
them in my own that these they want to
be out there they want to be used like
any tool that God gave us to bring
blessings they want to be activated and
they activate shamans they activate
people they and you activate them when
you put them into play so that's what
I'm doing I'm the steward of the stones
I represent the Bennett jayvon deride
Shirley Bennett jayvon to hide
collection and proud to have found
something and amazed still trying to
figure out how this guy here in
Conestoga Pennsylvania ended up you know
the guy who seems to know fair amount
about these stones I'm not an expert in
that I know a lot I would be considered
an expert because so few know anything
yeah very interesting well I prank a
newcomer so you've got a real service to
hopefully hopefully hopefully we get
some input and hopefully uh it gets on
the forefront and hopefully we hear
about this on ancient aliens would be
really nice to just in closing if there
is anybody in your audience who has ever
used the stones as any evidence or any
knowledge of them we would certainly be
interested in in anything that we could
get garner and gather from your I'm sure
very astute crowd yeah definitely
definitely make sure I'll hit him up
ancient alien stones calm being Vonda hi
thank you for coming on brother he's
enjoyed it blessings
all right Ben Vonda Hart ladies and
gentlemen interesting show no moly
they're normally stones very interesting
when it comes to ancient relics when it
comes to talisman you know something in
the Bible it's really weird man because
you start finding out that they had
things like that in the scriptures or
whatever statues that made them remember
an essence of an angel or an essence of
God or something like that we look at
the Ark of the Covenant right and you
have the two cherubim on top of it and
they're statues and the wings are drawn
out and their wings are touching each
other they're facing one another very
similar symbolism in Egypt when it comes
from Africa so like who's first like who
is the first and that's really the big
debate when it comes to it the Sumerians
the Africans Egyptians Christian the
Indians from India like there's all of
these stories are very similar and then
it you know that you have the Christian
narrative as well the Fallen Angels you
know those who came down from heaven and
he I think even mentioned the the word
fallen or something like that it's very
interesting so everybody has a different
narrative or whatever and so what they
bring to the to the table of their study
one thing is for sure something happened
something is going on happened and it's
still happening right when it comes to
these type of of beings ETS or angels or
aliens whatever you want to call them
everybody has a different opinion
according to their study in the research
material that they found and like I said
like when I first started out a lot of
my stuff was in the Christian realm of
thinking like he said at the beginning
most of them will just say that it's all
demonic are all negative I mean there
are quotes in the Old Testament where
they would take over a nation in they
would do that they would destroy all the
idols you know they would smash them all
and things like that so are the you know
Christian missionaries
you know doing the right thing when they
go in there and they tear everything up
or you know the US Army when we go into
it to other nations and we destroy all
of their ancient relics and then there's
no more
you know remembrance of them on the face
of the earth are these the other gods
that existed who came here to cause
confusion and ruckus could be don't know
but it comes down to the fact that there
were angelic beings who came down here
to do righteous things they were sitting
here biblically to rule in rain with the
father with Yahweh and he sent them here
to reign over certain nations and things
like that maybe these are relics that
they left behind who knows so one thing
about it it does pour a little bit of
fuel on the on the fire of the
exploration that something happened I
don't think that it's an outside
invading force that's going to do harm
to humans of these type of aliens or
whatever you want to call it
they've been here the whole time they've
been watching over us if they wanted to
destroy us they could have done it at
any moment especially when we were
behind on on technology now we have the
tools to fight back and there's we
talked about this many times but there's
different videos of laser beams being
shot from earth towards these weird
craft in the heavenlies in outer space
so we're shooting down these things and
I've received the information as well
that you don't have a lot of sightings
when you're trying to willed them to
happen because if they show up they'll
get shot down so there's a lot less
sightings going on right now I don't
know if there's a certain time whenever
time is right or there's there's less
stuff going on but that's why there's a
lot less sightings and wouldn't that
suck if you were to perform a C e5 and
make contact in a crafter shows up or an
angel shows up and freaking the
government shoots it down while you're
watching it wouldn't that be crazy it
was your fault
there probably be judgment on you for
doing it it's just a bit this is just
things that kind of popped through my
mind and I
throughout my studying and through my
own personal experiences there's been
times that look we can't show up I also
often believe that cloud seeding and
some of the what you would call Kim
Trails was a perfectly open sky and then
there's and then within an hour or two
Jet's are going back and forth
crisscrossing and it looks like the
entire sky your whole field of vision
you can't see any sky it's all clouds
man-made manufactured clouds which are
chemtrails that expand it and they look
like clouds you wouldn't know it and so
that that happens and so I even believe
that that's to actually cover up some of
this UFO activity that's still going on
right now above our heads and so really
interesting stuff to apply to your
studies when you're trying to figure out
what's going on in what role you play in
this war whether it's a war of
information a war of the worlds' a war
between our world in their world again I
think the bad guys are here I think the
bad guys are tearing up the planet here
feeding us chemicals feeding us fake
food feeding us wood chips and plastic
rice and all of these things the
government and the FDA and all of the
stuff that they promote this stuff
there's a freaking McDonald's in you
know Burger King on on every corner even
in the hoods even in the ghetto there'll
be a Church's Chicken there there'll be
a liquor store there they if you plant a
garden you'll be arrested if it's not
regulated that's that's weird it's
demonic so we're talking about the good
guys versus the bad guys the good guys
are out there they're watching over us
the bad guys are here ruling who are
they did they come down from another
star system from another constellation
is it to Anunnaki here who have created
mankind to be a slave race I don't know
I do know that the elite use your energy
your time your blood your sweat your
tears to be the fuel for this machine
that they're running that is definitely
true so when it comes down to who are
the good guys and who are the bad guys
everything's out there free energy I
mean just independent people researching
putting things out there about magnetic
propulsion how to make objects lighter
like there's so much stuff out there
that's proven and these people
eventually end up getting taken out we
could do away with fossil fuel we can do
away with the the fuel industry with the
gas and all of that kind of stuff and
just use free energy but they don't want
to they'd rather destroy the earth
because they're making billions off of
that in this large companies all love a
man is this what runs the world it's the
oil industry that's demonic those are
evil people who know that there's a safe
alternative but but for the love of
money they would rather tear up the
earth that they've been entrusted with
it Reza tear it up then move to
something more better that's better for
our health better for the health of the
planet those things that's the money I
really believe that and time time is
short it's not gonna it's not gonna last
forever I really believe that so all of
these things about the gods who came
down they're coming back they're coming
back whether you want to say its Christ
in angelic armies which I kind of have
grown up with that narrative and I'm
more upon that Christ and angelic armies
whether you want to say their ships
coming back or their actual Light Beings
and angelic armies that are coming in
which the Bible calls the hosts of
heaven are gonna come back the Stars are
gonna fall and the two kingdoms can't
coexist so good and evil can't dwell
together at the same time and so that's
why all of this stuff's happening right
now and so there's an uprising even
within the people even within the
consciousness of the people who want
something better we look at projects
like The Venus Project which they've
have all of the stuff mapped out be easy
to implement they're trying to but
there's a suppression of information
there's a press oppression now of
independent media that if you talk about
this stuff you'll be de platformed
you'll be demonetized all of these
things very tricky
industry that we're in right now and but
we're in I mean we're living in very
interesting times and so I think that
those who are for us are greater than
those who are against us and in the end
we're gonna see it all you know it's all
gonna bubble up and come to the top
eventually so heat rises let's see
imma jumpin here to some of these
questions right quick in the chat or
some of these comments Rene Rene Rui
says not to mention under the Vatican
all of this stuff that they have yeah
Kenny says I keep picturing Indiana
Jones and the Temple of Doom or Cypress
Hill in the temple of boom oh so you're
Wow you're talking about you keep
picturing the the crystal skulls that's
a whole nother subject those crystal
skulls and those are like real artifacts
supposedly right there's a whole bunch
of stuff out there when it comes to this
crystal skulls that were found so we got
a um another question here or comment
from Jesus Christ Superstar
who says its Anunnaki I am a psychic and
an astral traveler I've seen many things
over the last two years I've seen the
grace all sex all set every single one
of them Wow it's awesome man
yeah it's that's the beauty of it is
that you can be the experiencer like you
can you can do the knowledge you can do
that you can get the information for
yourself through meditation through
prayer through stargazing through
research all of this stuff and just
reading all of the ancient manuscripts
that are left even the stuff that was
taken out of the Bible that we're in
there at some point but they said now
take it out when you go back to find why
they took it out is because it points
back to some of these type of gods that
were being worshiped in in the ancient
times and it would kind of show some of
these rituals and things that were
passed down through pagan tree which is
still adored by the the Catholic Church
like they still carry the mystery school
practices and not to say that it's all
bad or anything like that but it's still
being practiced today on the earth which
is uh which is very interesting that's
one thing I do like about
the charismatic Christian Church is that
they still practice some of these
ancient things and they don't even know
it I think it's beautiful
you know what I'm saying that they
practice trance state they practice
speaking in tongues they practice
healing they practice channeling the
voice of God the voice of heaven the
voice of the holy spirit of what Jesus
like they practice all of these ancient
things that the majority of Christianity
has given up on I really I really
appreciate that aspect of the Christian
Church and uh but then on the other hand
the Catholic Church are still practicing
some of the ancient rituals and things
that were practiced back in the day like
I said there's a book out there for
those of you who want to go down that
path and usually it's a really weird
path when you start out on a lot of us
have been down it and we're coming back
off of it but you find out everything's
pagan but when you find out it blows
your mind your Christmas or Easter all
of this stuff comes from pagan tree
comes from each Egypt comes from Babylon
comes from Mesopotamia Persia you know
what I'm saying to Canaanites all of
these other religious practices that
we've borrowed from and stolen from the
Jews did it the Hebrews did it the
Christians did it the Catholics did it
they're all doing it there's nothing new
Under the Sun
nothing ritual none nothing new um so
when you start studying that it can blow
your head off
you're like oh you look at all this
ancient symbolism that still being
practiced today it's on the dollar bill
it's in the Vatican it's in it's in
Washington it's everywhere all of this
symbolism the all-seeing eye or whatever
and start freaking out about it you
start seeing that you've been lied to
and you know your churches are in with
these people in this kind of stuff so it
can lead you down a weird Road at first
but I say don't panic like don't fret
it's not all bad right when you first
get woke you start seeing this stuff
everywhere you start seeing it in the
way that they build their architecture
even us here and shoe in um there's I
think it's so a women women in
Children's Hospital in Mobile there's
like all of this ancient Egyptian
paintings and murals all over the wall
you go in there you're like what is this
you're like take him back in time to
ancient Egypt but looking at all of
these gods and symbolism on the wall of
the hospital very interesting stuff man
when it comes to understanding where
everything came from so but I said all
that to say that if you want to research
that the origins of the Catholic Church
the origins of our Christianity as we
know today there's a book out there by
the by the name of the two babylons by
alexandre hyssop it's a very interesting
book there are some pictures in it when
it comes to some of the old pictures and
diagrams of you know the Dagon priest
and then side-by-side with the Catholic
priests and they show you all the
ancient stuff I don't like the
fearmonger but and it's not fear monger
for me but for some people and when it's
brand-new to you you you know when when
you're sleeping and somebody turns the
light on in your face you're you know
they could take a little time to kind of
wipe the sleep out your eyes and and get
refocused or whatever I don't know where
you are everybody's in different places
on their spiritual walking on their
spiritual journey but if you're into
finding the roots of Catholicism in the
roots of Christianity as we know it
today in the West the two babylons by
Alexander here so make sure you check
that out you can also check that out and
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by Paulo Coelho so those are two
life-changing book shout out to Kinney I
got on that book for his birthday and
he's in chat Kenny have you read that
man let me know have you started it it's
a really good book man change your life
yeah so with that being said also man I
wanted to plug
what I've recently released a man I
really just did my first guided
meditation that's recorded so I recorded
myself doing a guided meditation that I
believed that I was able to tap in to
the father's heart man just in my own
prayer time I was led to write this
meditation and hear from the heart of
God that what he would say to people and
to put that into a meditation and create
an encounter in an experience that's
highly produced I hired voice actors and
their sound effects and takes you on a
tour through ancient Israel through the
tabernacle of Moses into the Holy of
Holies and into the throne room of God
and so there's this experience that I've
created so that it's fully immersive
most of the people who have already
purchased it who have already given me a
review most of them come back in tears
and and experience something very
profound so I want to make sure that you
guys check that out you can go to truth
seeker com I have CDs available as well
as the downloadable mp3 but I guarantee
you that that guided meditation will
change you so it's a fully immersive
experience really beautiful and I'm
gonna do more man it was such a
outpouring of love that I got from it
from different people and people just
want more so there's some other ideas
we've been studying and talking about
for years this whole idea of being able
to bring people into the encounters that
we've had right we've had these
encounters with heaven we've had these
encounters with angelic beings and with
Jesus and things like that and how can
we take you into that that place well
for one we just start talking about them
and it just automatically stirs
something within you if you're called to
it you want to to know more you want to
know how you can do it for yourself how
can I get into meditation how can I
contact how can I do a ce-5 and
stargates and have encounters for myself
right as we start talking about it
naturally it slightly we just start
stirring something up within
you we've been exploring that how can we
bring people into that with us and I
definitely do it through my music as I
put a lot of that stuff within my audio
and it just ignites people and takes
them on their own spiritual journey
themselves through the music it's
powerful but even so more like with the
meditation it is like a it is a fully
immersive experience in journey that
takes you down through there so we've
been talking about how to do it even
through prayer and in in in through
meditation and stuff but this this way
man it's really beautiful and there's a
bunch of things that I've seen a bunch
of things that I've experienced that I
want to take you guys with me on and
I've got a lot of ideas on how to do
that creatively trust me there's it's
really good so you can listen to a
snippet on YouTube or on the website as
well true seeker com
you can check out a snippet of the
guided meditation it's about 17 minutes
long and ya have your own experience
your own encounter and make sure you let
me know what happens when you do it man
I'm here and I'll need to start saving
all of these testimonies and stuff
they're not submitting them on a website
they're emailing me back and they're
hitting me up through messenger and
stuff but everybody has has said man
that they've just had these explosive
encounters and so it's going forth doing
what I knew that it would do it's so
powerful that like I feel like I'm a
conduit right like I didn't make it up I
don't say I feel like I channeled the
father's heart if you want to say that
and uh as I was writing it it's just
it's powerful is overwhelming man is
intuitive writing where the Holy Spirit
said tell them this tell them I love
them I'll never leave them and it's just
like I was some things I know but it's
like you have to articulate it and find
out which part tells them that they've
been here and you've been struggling but
the struggle has not in veins and it's
just just receiving it man it is a
beautiful encounter to be a conduit of
that energy man and and as I was
recording it I tear up as I go back and
listen to it I was reading it for
friends
and I don't want to be like overly
sensitive or overly emotional but I'm
trying to read it and like I'm holding
back tears and trying to act like a man
trying to read it to my wife okay hey
how's the sound and I'm reading it and
I'm just like oh wow and I read it to
other friends and they can feel it and
I'll just share my enthusiasm with with
other friends and they're like wow can't
wait to can't wait to to really tap into
it and so it's a beautiful experience
and so I I'm I'm not bragging on myself
I'm bragging on God because I get to go
back and experience it as well that's
the that's the most beautiful thing that
I get to experience it now I can we
played a little snippet last night on
Christy leaves podcast about six minutes
of the intro of five minutes and it's
tears man it's just it's from its from
heaven so anyway if you'd like to
support my work and download that that
mp3 or CD it's available on my website
truth seeker com I'm gonna make more and
so it was a really powerful experience
Fred Lynch is in the chat what's up
brother he says since since we are all
one consciousness of the Creator could
the could be habla up could the
oligarchies I'm trying to it's really
small text alle car keys be the lesser
of ourselves acting up because they are
being revealed and cleansed
just like acnes comes from the skin I'm
not sure I know I probably read that
wrong and you easy also says I saw the
guided meditation that's a dope idea
definitely getting that bro oh
definitely renee is asking for the link
you can just go to true seeker comm and
it'll come up it'll say true seekers
first guided meditation that link will
take you directly to the mp3 download
let's see Eric from Ohio was in the
house in the chat and house dog what's
up brother I love you yeah
make sure y'all check it out with that
I'm gonna say peace and Shalom and thank
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