The Spiritual Power Behind Music | Andy "Psalm" Byrd
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xviE6pGk-XM
Transcript source: YouTube captions

truth-seeker and/or its affiliates are
not responsible for any strange
phenomena that may occur during or after
listening to this podcast which may
include the following heightened senses
of awareness psychic abilities UFO
sightings alien contact time loss
out-of-body experiences ringing in the
ears ESP lucid dreaming increasing
chronicity astral projection telepathy
stronger intuition levitation miraculous
healings and all remote viewing please
be advised to miss an actual decision
these faintest and when I don't be
you are now locked into the to think of
to the paranormal esoteric and all
things spiritual yo what's up ladies and
gentlemen I'm your host true seeker this
is the true seeker podcast
tune in for another exciting episode
thank you guys for hanging out with me
it means the world that you guys are
here
sharing the sacred space with me got to
say a quick shout out to all the people
supporting what I do on patreon patreon
allows for you guys to support
independent art independent musicians
podcasters all that good stuff and you
guys are coming out of the Woodworks to
support me and my music and my podcast
and everything so from the bottom of my
heart huge thank you got to you guys you
guys mean the world if you want to
support head on over to patreon comm
backslash truth seeker and there you can
sign up for any level of giving per
month and you get access to my full
discography plus any new music that I'm
working on and I'm putting a bunch of
new music over there right now we're
almost done with my next album will be
entitled to see her and so I will be
giving you guys a shout out and thank
you thank you in the album credits as
well so head on over to patreon comm
slash true seeker to support what I'm
doing I think I have a got to go on a
bit of a rant so before we get started
today so I don't know if I excuse me or
what but I have to have to talk about
this so we got a artist who's coming on
today and this is the first interview
while I've actually had to read a waiver
before we do an interview kind of
getting permission to use the audio to
make segments out of the podcast and
that's what I do
we do a hour and a half two hours three
hours sometimes podcasting in there we
kind of take out clips about subjects
and topics that we talk about and I'll
do a custom thumbnail and we'll promote
it in that audio clip that YouTube video
helps to promote the episode so we'll
take a segment if we're talking about
say for instance we did one while I was
talking about hip-hop music or Christian
rap or whatever and we titled that
segment promoted it on Facebook and
sometimes the segment gets more views
than the actual podcast but at the end
of the segment it says to listen to this
show in its entirety click the link in
the description so it promotes what
we're doing so that's what I do so I had
to kind of do a waiver now with the
people coming on because the last
interview I did one of the last ones I'm
not gonna say any names but one of the
last interviews I did there was a
segment where we were talking about a
guy named Jason Westerfield I asked the
person if they can give us any info
about them what they're doing right now
because the person bragged about bragged
about knowing Jason Westerfield since
they were 3 years old and so I mentioned
you know what's he doing right now we
haven't heard from him those type of
things and the person's face lit up and
they went on a 10-minute rant about what
Jason Westerfield is doing and some
dealings with telepathy and and blue
beings that Jason knew about things like
that so I made a snippet put it out
there and obviously since Jason
Westerfield it's kind of hush-hush right
now nobody knows too much about what
he's doing it was gonna get some clicks
it was definitely gonna get clicks and
it started getting clicked like fast and
so the person who was in the interview
contacted me and said please take this
down actually sent me about 25 text
messages demanding me to take it down
and we have to get Jason's permission
like just overreacting just crazy I
wasn't gonna take it down this is what I
do you know what I'm saying this is this
is uh it's just I don't I don't think I
did anything wrong I mean he said I can
leave the interview up just take that
segment down and I wasn't gonna take it
down like I worked hard to actually make
that thumbnail and make all the images
and promote it and and uh and all that
so I was gonna leave it up a person kept
asking me to take it down they want to
get Jason's permission I felt like this
was a story we didn't need Jason's
permission to have it up anyway I've
heard stuff about Jason that if you
mention him or talk about him that
they'll threaten you with lawsuits and
I've heard this from people who were
close to him and kind of end those
Christian fringe circles as well so
anyway I didn't take the clip down I was
approached by two people
threatened with lawsuits said if I
didn't take it down they were going to
take me to court they're gonna contact
the lawyers and said that what I was
doing was dishonest manipulative and
I've been doing this this is what I do
with the podcast they said you're just
doing this for publicity I said yes I am
doing it for publicity I need clicks
this is what we do we're trying to get
out there to the world we want people to
see what we're doing we talk about
interesting topics we make snippets is
nothing different so that happened so
now I'm having to do these waiver things
and so the person then proceeded to tell
me you know I hope we can still be
friends after this I loved your
interview I love what you're doing on
the podcast maybe we can work together
in the future I'd love to keep our
salvage our friendship and I'm like no
not no but hell no joke don't ever
contact me again you just threatened me
and my family my livelihood with a
lawsuit take me to court and take every
everything from me that I have and a but
you still want to be friends if you
don't get them out of my face with that
man I don't have any time for that dude
are you threatened me and my family and
my lively I do this for a living man so
I had to get that off my chest man
Michael bathroom is my respect
Andy Saum welcome to the show brother oh
I didn't start off on the wrong foot
don't sue me Andy I love you bro doing
you a favor man so are you do you still
have that is that still up there Oh Joe
I took it down I took it oh but I have
okay tell us what it said I want to hear
I mean well he said I can leave it up in
the interview cuz like if you listen to
the full interview you know it thought
he goes on to he tells the story you
know but I just took a clip a snippet
Friday and promoted it but it was cuz
Jason Wester fields name was on it it's
gonna get clicks and I know Michael
Bassam does a lot of stuff on Jason
Westerfield I mean you know about Wow if
we talk about never Ian Clayton or Benny
hand whatever you know
those I mean that those are terms that
people are googling people are looking
up info on those people public figure
it's like Hillary Clinton or you know
Alex Jones or Donald Trump I mean you
can't copyright a name yeah you know
anyway interesting sorry I don't wanna I
don't wanna take wow it's great to meet
Andy this is this is our usual Andy we
usually talk about this mystic stuff
these really weird guys so yeah it's
just it's good to talk to you and we
hear about you know boots on the ground
building a business and what you're
doing and yeah so Andy has an awesome
testimony he's he's been around the
block he's been to the bottom of the
barrel and he's he's come back from it
he's a Christian hip-hop artist and he's
he contacted me a couple weeks ago and I
get a lot of messages from Christian
hip-hop artists and up I have a lot of
Christian hip-hop artists on the show we
just interviewed Bryan Trejo seven pyrex
some of those guys and Andy hit me up so
I always go check out the music if it's
somebody I've never heard because when
you're dealing with the Christian music
industry it's kind of oversaturated
right now and like what most people are
like a copy of what other people are
doing so that's the first thing I check
for originality and so when I went to
check out your music Andy Psalm I
enjoyed it I liked that it was different
and it was bringing something original
to the table man so kudos for that
welcome to the show brother tell us a
little bit about yourself you know I'm
saying where you are now and then we'll
get into your testimony but where are
you right now with with the music and
you walk with God man I'm still finding
now really i I've come to terms that I
think you know walking with God is a
lifelong journey I don't think I'll ever
be at the end I'm excited to think that
even when we die and get to the other
side of the fence it's the journey
continues you know what I mean so I'm
not gonna pretend I have all the answers
I know that I was four years ago living
for self just living for gratification
self idolatry just selfish ambitions
I was quote-unquote family man but I you
know was putting my family on the back
really hard for my worldly ambitions I
was a secular artist that you know
toured the country and thought I was on
my way to the top and towards living the
good life just life quickly unwrapping
for me man now fast forward four years
later I'm doing my best to not live for
self and to live live for love man
that's that's really what I feel like
I'm called to do I feel like that's what
we as people are called to do and that's
that's my daily prayers that that's
where my heart will be that's kind of
the heart behind my music I am a
Christian but I feel like a lot of
Christians get it twisted in the sense
that we're we're here to judge people
we're here to you know set the world
right and I don't necessarily agree with
that I think that we're here to love
people man I think that if anything if
we're if we're learned by you know Jesus
which is you know who Christians
proclaimed to be our leader and our
teacher he called us to love that's that
was the religion Jesus came to set if he
can even call it a religion Jesus got
crucified by the religious minds of his
day so I kind of I kind of you know I
know there's a big controversy over you
know the term the Craig stepped out of
Christian hip-hop you don't want to be
labeled electrician because yeah even in
the short four years I've been in it
there is a lot there's a lot of judgment
there's a lot of dogmas still associated
with the church and a lot of it is just
based on archaic traditions and not even
nautical principles so no I guess I'm
long-winded in that answer but she's
long story short right now I'm just I'm
just here trying to love people man
Christian or non-christian you know
secular or otherwise I just I just want
to love as as Jesus did as I believed
that God called him and all of us to do
so man wow that's beautiful man when it
when it uh when we talk about Lecrae we
just we there's a lot a lot to say about
Lecrae good and bad though you know what
I'm saying in the good and bad that I've
seen cuz I started out doing just
straight gospel music right I would call
the Christian rap it was ministry minded
to win souls for Jesus every song was
about Jesus or spiritual warfare or
something like that
I don't I don't consider myself a gospel
artist anymore but some people still do
business just because like they can hear
that in the music it's still there but
it's not like because you know some some
of those unspoken rules in the gospel
industry is like every song has to be
able to win people to Jesus like every
song and I don't believe that man you
know and it's like if your song does it
when people to Jesus then it's dissing
that and it's like who made those rules
up you know what I'm saying but I've had
I had a lot of awesome times I mean I
did gospel hip-hop probably from like
2004 - maybe 2012 2013 I was going off
and on there for a while at the end and
now it's gotten to a place where I
couldn't even do it if I want it to like
if I show up they call the cops type
stuff that still happens now it's the
best kind it is it's fun man it's
interesting man but uh but anyway like
there's so much to be said about gospel
hip-hop and I feel you about like
wanting to even go by that that term
because it has all these cliches with it
and and and then you know especially for
you or for me because first of all
you're a white rapper that's a strike
against you right and strike two you're
a gospel rapper so you're a white gospel
rapper and in most gospel rappers corny
so your music is a little bit different
it's not like okay he's trying to be
he's trying to copy or emulate what's on
the radio and for that just keeping it
original there is a huge kudos man talk
about your style because this is I think
some of its kind of dark I don't know if
I would call it horrorcore but it's got
some of those influences a little bit
woo I mean what are some of your
influences when it comes to the music
industry maybe so I lock influences to
you know my taste man right now I listen
to a lot of like indie indie rock or
honestly so it's like I don't know I'm
way against the grain of what I'm
performing but a musician you know I
quickly word little bit of guitar some
turntables so I try to you know I try to
dabble in everything it's just I don't
really try to define myself with a style
music has always been a way to express
myself I kind of mentioned this to you
before the end
I've never been I'm kind of an introvert
I don't really put myself out there in
crowds I kind of clam up when when you
know the bigger the crowd the quieter I
get but I've always found that I can I
can express myself really really well
with music I feel like you know I write
something down like yes that's how I'm
feeling that's what I won't meet no you
know what I mean
whereas if I come and try to have a
conversation with you and tell you walk
with man screw data you know what I mean
so I really and do you say horrorcore
that's funny because when I was doing
secular music I kind of got thrown in
you know the ICP broad you know that's
how I'm with my money I made this song
called duffle bag that got really
popular and I started making paying my
bills from quote-unquote Juggalo yes
definitely the dedicated man that
dedicated yeah so I never really
identified as a horrorcore person I
think I think I'm I'm kind of like you
know a glass half empty kind of guy just
you know my my bass level is like I'm
not I'm not super sorry man I'm not I'm
not a super beat kind of guy you know so
a lot of my music kind of reflects
reflects that you know but yeah I don't
I don't I don't try to I don't try to
sit down and say I'm gonna make this
kind of song I feel a certain kind of
way and I sit down and I I write that
down to express how I feel and you know
I hope it hope it comes out and you can
resonate with somebody else who might
feel the same way that's weird you said
resonate I was just about to say the
word resonate when you said resume I was
like I resonate with that and you're
like why no Oh resonating literally like
my dad's I'm kind of out of the loop
here because I'm from like classical
music world so I'm learning from you
guys about real music no I'm the nerd
I'm the nerd here guys just be honest
but um he's the same way my dad doesn't
talk much you know my grandfather was a
preacher talking writing my dad not so
much he stresses himself through music
and he the same way like oh you're a
classical musician great he's like you
get in the car with him after a concert
he's like you know what son I hate
classical music
he turns on jazz or like some kind of
weird thing and that's the cool thing is
when you're you're doing one genre but
then you start to reach into others and
I mean who knows what you'll what will
get birth from that so that's really
cool and I think that's true art and Len
last night I sat down with a guy I'll
say it later on because I don't take the
show but basically a guy that shook
hands with Mel Gibson was on the set of
Braveheart and silence just meant Liam
Neeson here in Taiwan and we just had
this like three hour conversation
he was from Scotland so we tark he
talked with the perfect accent like
these two the harder time and I couldn't
start from laughing but he we were just
talking about like merging different art
forms and he wasn't a Christian you know
wasn't it wasn't easy to like share the
gospel with him because he was really
sensitive his dad just died and but it
was like we're talking about art and
just creation and like merging different
worlds and like you're not really
familiar with this but then you bring it
together and you know there's just so
much that can be done you know I got one
real quick thing on what you say about
you know he wasn't a Christian Lestat is
he lost his father and a lot of a lot of
Christian and I actually haven't met one
Christian friend who doesn't look at me
funny when I tell this story but ok my
wife my wife see prostate cancer and
time we took him into our home for the
last few months
and basically walked him to death's door
right so it was real traumatic for her
and I even we got a lot of a lot of like
the cliche Christian like Oh was he safe
was he a believer yeah the answer to
that question was no I mean Chuck John
song I close this door sorry sorry guys
the answer to that question was no john
donne was not a believer and that really
troubled me I was a pretty new believer
in Christ so hearing people say like you
know he's going to hell I just flat-out
that was kind of things that I heard and
a night after his funeral I was I was
down in our garage
just crying out to God man like bawling
my eyes out like god is this your plan
like John was a good man he was one of
the most humble or like righteous men I
knew for not you know even God he
certainly walked a godly life from an
outside perspective so it just really
bothered me I just prayed just feeted
with God like God please just give me a
sign on that John's okay please just
give me a sign the John's okay and said
a man went upstairs my wife and my son
were up in our bedroom crying as well
just bawling as well you know and we sat
down and we were getting ready to watch
Netflix and she had her iPad sitting up
on the bookshelf and her iPad turns on
out of the blue and Spotify comes on and
you guys familiar with the song
hallelujah yeah oh yeah beautiful piano
rendition of the song hallelujah by
Brian train comes on right just out of
nowhere and the only way I can describe
is like a spiritual hug just this
electricity of the room you know is this
something our tears just stopped and we
looked at each other and I just looked
at the screen you know you know all I
remember seeing is hallelujah just their
words hallelujah and right up with
another song comes on and we are still
just like in this state of like
spiritual just energy ecstasy almost you
know comes on I don't know if you guys
are familiar with it conte partiro is is
I think it's Italian right the English
translation is called time to say
goodbye and we her dad her and I we were
all familiar with this song but we've
never looked at the English translation
of the song and yeah we thought too but
instead of saying conte partiro when the
song came on on the screen assay the
time to say goodbye and that kind of
prompted us your eggs and the the whole
thrust of that song man it's like the
whole first half of that song is like
I'm gonna be like goosebumps and start
choking I'm just talking about this but
the whole first half of it it's like I'm
never gonna see you again
you know you're gone from my life this
is the end
I'm so sad and somewhere in the middle
of that song I just like it changes
gears like no no it's not the end I'm
gonna see we can in a brand new
beautiful world I'm gonna see you again
Travel the wonderful places together and
this is not goodbye and and then it was
like done and then I like went to a
commercial or something like that for
those two songs played and we were just
sitting there like yeah right so that
caused me to just I mean I honestly
don't believe that if you don't know
Jesus I think that Jesus came I think
that Jesus came to show us away to God
for everybody not for the club not for
the clinic not for the Christians I I
strongly believe in a kind of let me be
looking at near-death experiences I know
you guys probably didn't share that but
it's like regardless of culture
regardless of context like people meet
God people who have cheese uh you know
they go you know what I mean it's like
they come back just like they don't come
back want to win souls for a team they
come back one just good man I got chills
when you said you know what I mean so
it's like that's that is my problem I
feel like with traditional Church today
and that's like kind of my rub against
the label is everything it's like I
believe in Jesus's message I believe why
I think that it's it but I believe it
and by and large we got it wrong man you
know so that's good man I think I'm
right on board with you man we got a
shout out from the chatroom
Jeremy Bowman he didn't know you were
gonna be on here he's uh yeah I guess
he's a I guess he's a mutual friend he
says what's up so it's funny that you
say that man and there's a bunch of
different places we can go there because
like people on the religious right will
say well that was the devil messing with
you right the devil was trying to
deceive you and I hate I hate that's
this like what come on what about you
know the experience that it created for
you and there's people who would fight
you tooth-and-nail and say that we would
and we obviously know God speaks through
everything it's it's it's funny you say
that you had this almost like angelic
encounter in a sense where you're with a
piece of equipment coming on and then a
song being played into you you have
feeling joy and a sense of comfort out
of the blue there was a there was a time
years ago it was probably 2002 2001
something like that where I wanted to
start doing
Christian rap music I didn't know where
to start and this was years ago right
came out of the world was a big bone
thugs-n-harmony fan still am I did I
didn't know where to start with the
music so it's like and I got all the
second music out of my house we didn't
listen to any secular music but a buddy
of mine had it and I knew that they
would get lyrics through the Ouija board
and some of the stuff they were talking
about is some of his demonic right and
so I had a friend of mine who wanted to
rap to his little brother had the bone
dog CD outside hey man let me use the CD
I'm gonna listen to it and we're gonna
redo bone dog songs and we're gonna
change the lyrics to glorify God so he's
you know it's I take the CD home with me
I put it in I'm playing their music and
I listen to a first couple bars I'll
pause it and then I'll write some
Christian lyrics to the same tempo and
try to change the lyrics and I was going
word for word and there's a lot of crazy
stuff that goes on on that on that at
least 1999 eternal album I mean there's
demons all is Ouija board is backward
masking there's there's some stuff that
you have to read backward in the in the
mirror in their cover and stuff and it
was some otherworldly stuff and like I
knew that going into it so I was taking
a chance and I felt bad I was like I
shouldn't be doing this but this is all
I know to do so let me let me do it so I
started trying to trying to trying to
rework those songs and stuff and that
night I went to bed and me and my me and
my wife's laying in bed and uh three
o'clock in the morning we were we were
awakened to the radio turned on all the
way in the living room with the bone
thugs-n-harmony intro like the first
song and it's it's a courtroom case of
somebody going to a jail for murder
but the person sentencing them is the
devil and he's laughingly so we were
awakened to the devil laughing really
loud with it devout and all the way up
laying in the bed raha would wake up I
don't know I wake up in fear not from
the devil of the CD but the spirit that
hit me was like somebody broke in our
house and stepped on the remote so
somebody's in the living room and
stepped on the remote and turned the CD
player on so I thought it was like a
home invasion you in the music's
blastin this wicked bone thugs-n-harmony
music man so that was my experience
about the radio turning on and playing
music mom was in a demonic light when
yours was in an angelic light man you
know yeah I've got a couple demonic
stories too man I don't know how much
time yeah good go ahead man let's let us
here we got it we had a bunch of people
listening man they want to hear about
some of these when when you know I'm
saying the worlds collide the two realms
even if it was just me listening I want
to hear it right up my alley I think I
think one of the things that kind of led
me to to reaching out to God and always
kind of kept me grounded in a faith was
something I experienced as a really dumb
kid my my grandma was asleep there and a
necromancer so she held seances and you
know read people's futures and they've
always they've always said the dust side
of my family has like a touch of the
psychic or whatever right so we went to
stay in her house she had a she lived
until in like Oregon so my family went
to stay in her house so she was like
real open like I live with spirits and
we were like okay grandma you know what
do move and I was I was young so most of
this to be fair I remember two stories
from my family right so I was like
really young most I remember sigh crying
under a blanket you this but you stay in
her house my whole family stays in one
room there's one one big like King
California king bed and then my
grandma's got a little bit over on the
other side of the room and as soon as
the lights go off we hear like these
heavy footsteps downstairs kind of like
same thing that you thought everyone
thought like there's an invasion in the
house that there were a be just like
stomping around the house and my family
you know that's that's what I remember
crying under a cover that's about what I
remember crying under a cover so the
rest of this is stories but my mom the
footsteps come up the stairs and our
door swings open right and then the
bathroom the bathroom door swings open
and a faucet turns off so my mom
everybody's hands and in that moment
press as a prayer to Jesus Jesus
whatever this is please just like keep
orphan as soon as she says Amen as I
done it's done I mean the faucet still
armed I mean the things it's not like
everything's back to normal but it stops
I mean it stopped just like it had never
happened
what's even more crazy is you know we
stayed there for the rest of the weekend
every time we left my mom made it a
point to talk to my grandma like hey
grandma how are the spirits Tillich's my
grandma like had names for him they
don't she was she was comfortable with
their presence my mom was like how they
doing
and every time he left they would
manifest but every time we came back in
the house like her prayer works man like
what you know whatever whoever those
spirits were her prayer works in the
sense that they stopped they stopped
messing with our family completely but
still whenever we would be felt free to
you know manifests around my
great-grandmother so that like those
stories and that experience always stuck
with me in my later years and kind of
you know like I feel like if it hadn't
been through that experience I probably
would have grown up pretty like agnostic
or atheistic in our in our culture the
trans if there's no hard proof or hard
but hard evidence then it's there's a
naturalistic explanation you know and
that's kind of the way the world wants
to go but I've always had that way in
the back of my mind to fall back on you
know like now how do you explain this
mr. sciences that's perfect for me
because I'm in Taiwan and you know there
are no atheists on this island this is
basically Chinese culture if I the the
real Chinese culture the five
thousand-year-old Chinese culture not
the Communist one on the mainland but
you always hear about in the news and
it's there are no atheists here
seriously there's like it's like one
it's like a unicorn to meets them
because they're all they all believe in
ghosts
it's a very normal thing to have
spiritual experiences in this country
that's the tenth largest economy that's
very practical but like you'll see some
guide like his God is like really nice
business is technology company or
whatever and then he goes outside in the
front of this business and he's out
there praying and you know sacrificing
the food for the ghosts and I mean they
just operate as if it's a real thing is
if the supernatural is just a part of
daily life they don't you know talk
about it they just do it and that's it's
interesting but that's that's amazing
because it's an easier that's kind of
the
the French radio network that we're
working with also it's basically the the
idea is to reach out to people who would
never go to church but using those kind
of paranormal experiences is a good way
to get to kind of reach into the topic I
think we don't believe in it yeah yeah
yeah I think so you can't deny
somebody's experience like maybe you
never saw Jesus but hey I woke up and
there was a ghost by my bed and we were
talking and this happened and you're
like oh you know what can they say like
it happened to you yeah yeah some of
those you know ministries like the earth
the early morning star ministry and
stuff like that that we were we were
influenced by they said that if we deny
the prophetic that were denying them a
portion of Jesus and it's it's funny how
like you had like a miracle or some type
of supernatural experience that
essentially led you to God or to a
belief in something evil that's out
there but something good as well that
was greater than the evil and so I
remember I remember going back and uh
because I had friends who were walking
with us in the Lord and then they got
into like the strict Reformed Baptist
theology where you know the miracles
were done away with the gifts of the
Spirit were done away with all of that
everything was done like in the past and
so uh it led me to a journey to the
scriptures to see like how Jesus used
miracles and Jesus used the prophetic
realms and things like that to win
people over and it was like almost every
time Jesus would perform a miracle and
it would win them over or the disciples
would prophesy and tell people about
their future or or or even stronger
about their past everybody can tell you
about the future what about the past and
right and hints where Jesus was at the
UH at the well with the woman and he
talked and she says come and see a man
who told me everything I've ever done
and so that's the powers and abilities
that we're supposed to be walking in man
so if we don't walk in them as
Christians as believers and we don't
answer their questions people who are
dealing with this stuff then didn't then
the people in a new way
are gonna accept him with arms wide open
and they're gonna be able to tell them
exactly what they're dealing with and if
they don't know they'll make it up and
they'll receive them and they'll give
them a voice and stuff so us as
believers in the body of Christ this
stuff is all throughout the scriptures
from Genesis to Revelation these
encounters and and and giftings and
abilities and stuff so we definitely got
to deal with this stuff I just got I
don't want to cut you off to Andy this
is your interview so just you talk but I
just got this message from my brother
SIGINT I call him SIGINT Joshua Davidson
truly the signs of an apostle were
accomplished among you with all
perseverance and science wonders and
mighty deeds 2nd Corinthians 12:12
referring to 12:12 being like government
number and God which to me I mean what's
a sign and a wonder like if you're an
apostle istic anointing or whatever you
go somewhere and just God does stuff and
there's signs and wonders it doesn't
even say which ones yeah maybe you know
mighty deeds would be a pretty big deal
but like last night but this Irish guy
sorry Scottish guy and here's telling me
about his fire there and a house feel
inside and he said I'm not a Christian
really I go to charge sometimes but I
don't really see the number seven you
know here's our kitchen each age member
shaven and like Wow number seven is like
this little styrofoam seven that he
found look behind him and we're sitting
in a in a 7-eleven and Taiwan 7-elevens
got great beer and great you know so we
had beer in honor of his father and I
looked behind him there were three CD
cases each one of them said 777 so there
was like a line of them so they were and
they were different packaging but
somehow it just so happened that there
were nine 7s in a line in a perfect
square just behind this kind like well
brother and I was really trying not to
mimic exact set because I don't want to
bother him you know I always do that
well here hey brother hey Shane so like
a drunken pirate something there are
nine 7s behind you right now
see you see it was just like it was such
a beautiful like a god thing and I just
met this guy randomly a few days before
that to me that was a sign I mean to
other people than maybe like whatever
you know but yeah I just this is the
kind of thing like when you walk in
faith wherever you go God can just
arrange stuff he can put you in the
right place the right time you know
truth Sica can suddenly call you for an
interview
I mean signs and wonders so you know and
they are so they are so personal you say
one person can you know try to undermine
and discount the sign but that doesn't
that doesn't cheapen it for the person
who got the sign you know what I mean
like our God that's right such a
personal God do you know yes it is it is
such a such a relational thing that like
the sign doesn't have to be you know
imparting the clouds they can be just
and what could seem to be a coincidental
placement of CDs you know what I mean
with it that speaks to your heart that's
that's all it needs right that's if it
can moves us to action like ways the
Bible says we're at God's hands and feet
so how does he move us to action right
through through giving us science dude
you're showing us ready I mean you don't
need you don't need you don't need work
miracles I mean life is a miracle man
like I don't know if you guys look into
like this science of the universe and
the placement of everything and you know
what it takes to keep keep us going you
know all the intricacies and things just
like interconnected but like every day
we're we're living miracles we really
are that you know I mean what was it
like Michael Bay hey that the book where
he examined the DNA and and came up with
how many different proteins and
molecules have to combine in certain
ways and there's no way that Darwinian
evolutionary naturalism can account for
it there really isn't but it's like
mainstream science still like waves the
Darwin flag and you know life is all
accounted for it's like no man life is a
miracle that was America by all accounts
by every Testament you can see life is a
miracle yes yeah it's funny it's funny
to how we see like science now is
starting to prove a lot of the stuff
that the Bible is teaching as far as
like the spirituality and
the way that we're all connected and the
different things that the Bible has been
talking about for thousands of years
science is now coming out and they're
proving it but they have no idea that
the Bible teaches this stuff and
obviously they don't use scriptures or
even give credence to the Bible but
they're sharing these truths that are
like so far out there but the Bible
we've been trying to teach this stuff
for years in the scriptures you know
that's right everybody's connected that
the power of sex when you come together
with the woman how you receive their DNA
and the two become one flesh in like
this their studies proven all of this
stuff now that that the the woman keeps
the DNA of all of her partners she's
ever been with you know what I'm saying
and there's like all these esoteric
Studies on it but that's that's all that
stuff's biblical man you know and it's
in fact it's backing up some of the
things that we believe you know fairly
wonderfully made to say the least right
what's a lot of things that scientists
forty years ago
we're refuting instead of you know I'm
convinced that mainstream science like
pop science it's not oh it's not hard
science you know it's like they're still
playing the catch-up game so yeah but
that's only on the exterior I mean these
guys the guys that created evolution
don't believe in evolution I mean that's
on record and if anybody wants to really
get to the heart of like where they
nailed evolution of the coffin from the
get-go it was GK Chesterton's the
everlasting man which was the book that
CS Lewis got saved reading so that's a
little gem for people who are truth
seekers everlasting man my G K
Chesterton but you know the guys that
are working on the real science they
understand that the stuff that Hitler
was into all that weird occult esoteric
stuff that's the real science it's the
and you know even in England they were
trying to conquer heaven and hell not
just all the world they were into all
this alchemy and all this weird occult
stuff to see if they could tap in and
breach the dimensions and that's that's
what's happening today to the CERN and
you know deep underground military
projects
the military uses psychics to contact
aliens and UFOs and blah blah blah I
mean it's all it's a huge mess down
there
we're just you know Derek and I were all
of these guys we're just trying to sort
of shed some light on it but it is such
a huge mess when you find out that in
Jesus you have the power in through
prayer through the Word of God realizing
who you are your identity with Jesus we
can do all of that stuff you know and um
I don't want to take the show cuz I'm
going to tell you guys some stories but
this is this is real like the spirit
world I mean it's a real thing and and
the science they try to make you live on
this two-dimensional world that's just
meaningless meanwhile they don't believe
it and they're going off you know doing
all kinds of stuff and we're sitting
here in church just thing ya know
whatever that's why I really appreciate
truth-seekers broadcasting it's really
revolutionary [Â __Â ] cheers Michael
Bastian I was on I was I was I was
telling somebody about my story
yesterday with the whole um I'm Jason
Westerfield thing and a buddy of mine
started looking him up and started
finding what he can find him going
YouTube and he started playing this
video he's I hate this guy's talking
about I must hey that's Michael Bastian
that's my buddy I go laugh with him all
the time you know we're on the same
network it's like what I'm like making
coffee or something the house getting
ready talking about with Jason Western
3,000 views man I mean that's the thing
these Nate's the names it's like what
you talk about people are looking for
this stuff yeah and I mean you guys are
musicians and what you guys rap about
it's you are reaching people that will
never look for this but you've got such
a platform with that and I really want
to encourage you guys totally it's
really cool right now but guys so as far
as you test the money man like coming to
Jesus was that was that like a big deal
for you or it's something you just kind
of came into did you just always have
faith or was there like a defining
moment that just like look I got to quit
living this way I have to do something
yeah big I mean was kind of like that
extent experience it's always been man
I've always had to learn things the hard
way
gosh I could talk for hours on this one
I'm good as possible here
my wife ended after about eight years of
being married she ended up leaving me
and it wasn't like a plan to leave I and
I found out she was seeing some other
guy as soon as I found out kind of like
the floodgates open she had never felt
like she could really talk to me I was
kind of I guess domineering which I
never saw myself as that she said I was
so when I found this out the floodgates
open like well I'm not happy with you I
haven't been happy with you put
everything before me you know father
you're not a good husband and I was like
no I you know and I wanted to be real
mad and offended that she that she would
you know ever betrayed my trust or
whatever but you know I ended up on my
knees that night man and on my knees for
the next couple of weeks I spent I mean
I just spent the next couple of weeks in
hard prayer and faced some really hard
truths of course all my friends were
like you know screw her bro you can do
better you don't forget that that's
smoked some meth and gin some alcohol
and fall back into the world you know
mm-hmm something inside me man was just
like super convicting during that time
like you did this you did this this is a
her fault you did this and I just
reached out man like gotta through there
let me know and he did admit like that
over the next couple of weeks it was it
was insane I could and this is gonna
make me sound like a Looney tune it
people just again look at me crazy when
I try to tell this foot I could
literally know what was gonna happen
every day your prayer I woke up and
prayed and I felt like this is gonna
happen today and I'd go out into the
world and that happened it got to the
point like my wife will gouge her this
thing out of the point where I would
call her like this this is happening or
today is an age I guess it is and then
we just come to light that these things
were happening and on top of these mini
day to day revelations I was getting he
was giving me long-term revelations
right like he's putting it in my heart
like all the all the transgressions and
everything that I had done to kind of be
a stumbling block to my family
and to be the opposite of what a husband
should be a husband should build his
family up a husband should encourage and
lift his wife up and be there for his
children and support them and once you
have a family it's not about you anymore
it's about your family right I had a
family it was still all about me and I
was just so backwards in my thinking and
that was just place so having me in my
heart that you know at that point like I
feel like when I when I call her I made
it easier for her to be she's like cool
it's all out of the bag I'm out of here
like I'm done with your nonsense and she
was gone she was starting a relationship
with somebody else and it looked like it
was over but through prayer God God
essentially called me like you know what
show her the love that you should have
been showing her for the past eight
years just start there just for you know
she's gonna be mean to you she's gonna
be spiteful she's gonna have a lot of
rage against you but just answer it was
love and I did and God he told me like
I'm gonna restore your family she's
gonna come back to you this is
everything's by Bennett's on you to be
the man that I'm calling you to be and
sure enough man within a few months
couple months she was back at my house
and me being the stubborn the stubborn
dick that I am I said thanks God got it
from here and basically stopped praying
stop seeking God kind of like okay I got
my family back got what I wanted and it
was couple of months I had turned into
the most bitter angry spiteful person
like I was a worse husband than I had
ever been and back to the point where my
wife was like acting suicidal man like I
just became like I I got so wrapped up
in my anger over what she had done to me
you know that I I just I couldn't see
her I couldn't care about what I was
doing to her in that one right and I
woke up I remember I woke up one morning
just with this resounding resounding
voice in my head what about our deal
what about what you told me you would do
what I told you out of restore your
faith you promised yes God please give
her back I will do this I will do this
I'll be the husband I should have always
been like you ungrateful spoiled little
brat what about right Wow so I just like
I went to her that morning like listen
I'm sorry I've been so terrible
please forgive me for the billionth time
get baptized with me I just felt like
this overwhelming calling to get
baptized I didn't really understand why
I wasn't really going to church at that
time I
fact I wasn't going to church at that
time at all so I reached out to a friend
and who had known from junior high who
was active on Facebook walking with God
as I came in and you you baptized me in
my wife yeah absolutely absolutely
leading up to the baptism I was like I
felt like God was just in me man like
lifted me up but our family was
crumbling it was like there was
something that was fighting that baptism
I mean that's the only way I could put
it my wife is being oppressed like she
she was hearing voices she was she was I
mean just antagonistic on it kind of
culminating on the way to the river on
the way to the river and like my mom was
in the car and we were just about to
stop the car and turn around and give it
up because like it was almost the power
we were screaming at each other well not
at each other but my wife was so
apprehensive in just like right and we
pushed through it we know we're gonna do
this we're gonna do this you know we got
baptized we came out of the water man it
was just like like a you know a new day
a new day I went home waited over my
house because I kind of glossed over but
my wife she was she's seriously
oppressed in those weeks leading up to
like she was hearing things she was like
she felt like she was being haunted so I
came home I came home after the baptism
and I prayed over my house there kind of
the same way I had seen my mom pray over
us back when I was a kid right just like
digest whatever it is just keep it from
us right never came and like it's just
been I mean I'm not gonna say it's been
perfect as there's ups and downs it's
been a rollercoaster life's been tough
externally a lot of a lot of external
forces have been working against us but
internally man it's just feeling like
since that day since since God woke me
up for the last time it's like there's
only one one thing I can do and that's
just I give honor to him because he is
just like time and again just reach down
just wake up you know wake up
see see laughter what you should see
they're wasting your days yourself you
know and he's just been so good to me
man so I'm not gonna pretend like I'm
still trying to figure out who Jesus is
to me like I've read through the
scripture and I'm trying to I try to you
know I listen to what denominations
interpretation every versus another
denominations interpretation of them and
I just try to keep coming back to a life
he reveals to me like I am loved I am
the epitome of loving your neighbor yeah
your brother before yourself and laying
down your life for your fellow man right
so it's like that's that's where I'm at
again so you don't have to man and
that's it that's the thing that um yes
that's the thing that kind of gets us is
we don't have to have it I'll figure out
I know if we talk about this all the
time with like how cults get people and
how people start movements and how
people start ministries like you kind of
have to have it all figured out and it
shows a [Â __Â ] in your armor when you
like you know what I don't know
I believe this this and this and it kind
of points to this but there's also that
that makes sense we can't do that we're
trying to build built we have to act
like we have it all figured out and we
don't and those people who claim that
they do they don't they're lying to you
they're making it up as they go they
don't have it all figured out and it's
okay it's okay to do that but it's
powerful because it comes down to what
Jesus says who do you say that I am I
ain't worried about what that
denomination said that I am or that
prophet or that preacher or that atheist
says I am who do you say that I am and
that's what I say you're the son of God
I say you're the one who died for my
sins I say that you're the one who makes
all things new okay blessed are you
because nobody told you that you came
with to that conclusion on your own and
that's what it's about our own because
that's whoever we believe or perceive
him to be that's what he is if he's the
a-hole if he's the God that hates
everybody wants to kill everybody and
that's our perception like in all
reality that's who that God is the
unknown God or the Yahweh who's wanting
to kill babies and there's people who
think that that's who God is right
that's that's their perception they
they're not able to kind of read through
the stories and and take the gems and
allegory and things like that so it
messes up their perception or being of
something that happened to them when
there was a kid because most of us judge
God off of our relationship with our
parents if our father wasn't there and
then guess what well God's not there and
so we have this messed up view of God
because
our parents were always getting on too
we were always in trouble so now we have
a relationship with God that everything
we do wrong he knows about it and he's
just there to chastise us he's not there
to love us he's not there to console us
until we can see God for who he is what
he is and that he is all those things
combined he is the essence of all life
of all love and and Jesus's love made
manifest if we're able to know him in
that revelation he becomes real to us in
a way that it doesn't matter what
happened to us he comes like he said he
makes all things new and in those things
that you didn't have he's able to
provide and he is a father he is he is
one who's gonna watch over us and can
console us in and things like that he
does chastise those he loves but he does
it in a loving way not in a way that
God's mad at you so it's powerful when
it says who do you say that I am right
wow I never thought about in that way
well yeah he's a lot of different things
to a lot of different people man Tellis
man while we got you on tell us a little
bit about your music man what you're
working on and how we can we can check
you out
yeah man so I guess the easiest way
we're just ministry music calm music is
Mb zik calm as a secular artist I was
really ambitious I was you know very
life to chasing that dream so as you
know dude doing the music as I do now
I'm almost intentionally unambitious so
I make a lot of music I got my hand in a
lot of pots but I don't I'm not really
trying to schedule were these States I'm
not really China you know be the next
big thing I'm just I'm just expressing
myself and hoping then again hoping that
hope and the people can can relay it in
a small way man like I've when I first
when I first came into the Christian
scene I kind of had this feeling okay I
gotta apply my secular knowledge to this
and like get my buzz up and do these
press releases and push these editorials
and Yatta Yatta
yeah yeah those are my numbers and I
think that God like really quickly put
in my heart like you know that's not
that's not my heart I don't care about
any of that you know that's like man's
measure this excessive
who are you blessing through your music
you know what I mean so it's like I get
one message on Facebook man you're you
means you've changed my life you know
your music saved my life even just like
those those small messages man like
that's that's what I strive for man like
if I can just bless one more person
today bless one more heart yeah one more
person to the light you know to the
light source then that's a that's job
well done in my book so yeah ministry
music calm man that's kind of where we
shine a we try to post all of our new
releases and other than that yeah social
media mm-hmm I think I think you've done
that even with this interview man is
just some comments right now in the chat
room people saying what a testimony and
they've got chills you sharing your
stories and stuff like that how do you
spell that ministry music is there a
look at it the same way am i in is t ry
music's got the the urban slang to it em
you see okay so is V I can't okay sorry
really unless I said I'm the nerd here
yeah so ministry music there we got we
get that name with you know ministry
essentially comes from the Greek word
meaning just there so that's that's our
that's our girl man we just want to
serve others and if people up and edify
through put now so I've got a couple
other artists kind of in my hometown
that I'm kind of take under my wing I
hooked up with God Squad records which
is this awesome ministry man God Squad
radio I think God's God Squad God Squad
records calm if you check them out those
guys are just doing some really good
work for the King they're not found by
any denomination but I've kind of come
alongside those guys they've come
alongside me and yeah yeah trying to
trying to help help each other in the
walk with each other accountable and
edify one another that's big man it's
big especially in the times that we're
in right now those brothers who was
there who was the real deal you know I'm
saying you can open up with them and
tell them anything and not scare them
away or whatever that guy said you can
actually be open with them right
I think it's cool to that you show you
your testimony keep doing it and it was
something that was said before we went
and we were asking you about your past a
little bit and you said oh yeah you know
just the cliche man you know everything
every you know I've you know saying the
drugs in the alcohol the music but you
know that kind of stuff
and so it can kind of seem like that or
where you kind of just brush it under
the rug because it's like everybody's
done it but then I remember going to a
lot of churches telling my testimony and
having this crazy testimony especially
coming out of like dark witchcraft and
oh and contacting demons and stuff like
that getting possessed and I would share
that as my testimony coming off of drugs
and stuff and gang affiliation and
people all you got this awesome
testimony but then the church kids who
didn't have the testimony like they
would feel they you know they were like
oh I don't have a testimony like you you
know saying I never I never drank never
smoked never had sex out of marriage or
whatever the case is I know but but but
they feel like like they have less of a
story a less of a right to share because
they don't have this cool story or
whatever you know so it can kind of lead
you to be like when people ask you your
story not so you don't make those people
feel bad you know you're not like
bragging that's what sometimes the
testimonies become that as well you're
bragging about the person you used to be
do they rob people dude like break into
people dude I used to tear up marriages
dude and just sleep around if you were
like like fantasizing about the person
they used to be yeah it's like what are
you what are you doing like hot like how
does that so instead of just telling
about the past like you gotta get to a
point to say okay how do we move forward
like how do we leave that person in the
past and be able to move forward to what
God has for us now so we're not laying
down the foundation of where we came
from you know that's our big claim to
fame that I used to be a revolution or
revelations to it's like people Ian
Clayton socks isla de Lucia you know oh
got 40 years ago I got a message from
Jesus and it was follow me and I saw a
rock fall from the sky and it you know
appeared to confirm it well what what
did God tell you yes your name yeah you
know what was your revelation yesterday
that he told you
yeah there's a song man that every time
I used to hear it it's called urine it's
called your unfailing love by I think
Vineyards version it's either early
Hillsong or early vineyard it may be
Hillsong but there's early stuff and it
says when my darkness keeps me doubting
and when my memories take the place of
you Jesus come like we have all these
beautiful memories about these
encounters with God and God showing up
and speaking in our lives but there were
years passed like and it's weird that
that they're so powerful that we're
still affected to this day we don't want
to be like so we got to find a balance
with that do we like keep wanting more
angelic encounters we want Jesus to show
up in miracles in our lives like daily
and maybe maybe that is supposed to
happen but maybe those those encounters
were so strong that they left us changed
almost where Jacob wrestled with God and
he left changed and he walked with a
limp after that because he wrestled with
God he was changed from that moment out
so he's always got that limp no matter
20-30 years so now he's able to try to
go up the stairs simulate him back down
oh he changed me right and so there's
always that - but the scripture says
these signs shall follow them that
believe that if you believe me if you
believe the gospel these things are
gonna are gonna happen you're gonna
receive power from on high the Holy
Spirit is gonna come upon you and you
will be witnesses unto me right so there
is this daily fellowship but it's not
about like living in the past or living
off of those memories because we've got
so many of them that it's easy to just
do podcast and talk about them and
discuss their owners right I think I'm
trying to listen to every great
classical work or every jazz piece and I
haven't gotten in hip-hop yet you guys
are gonna lead me down the road of me
and my brother are doing the nerdiest
thing ever we found this website called
Zophar net it has every single video
game soundtrack for every single game
for every single system since video
games were ever made
and we're going through all those
soundtracks we're weeding out all the
best tracks because there's all these
music is so dynamic you know there's no
limit to what you can do it sounds so
we're going through that I can't
remember why I'm talking about this
there's just so much that you can do and
you can overwhelmed by it and you forget
how to just enjoy that one song that
you're listening to because all the
music in your brain at the same time or
all the revelations and you know like
simplification and just enjoyment I
don't know I don't know yeah it's just
little things in life are you doing man
no I'm trying to find like I used to
have my ringtones and Mario step there
yeah I change that all my rent tones and
my answer tones like my message tone on
Facebook when somebody sends me a
message it does like the Mario jump
sound Boing plain big big gamers well
man I'm big into the game the game and
stuff but that's a whole nother a whole
nother podcast we can do that we
actually want to reach out to a lot of
those game like the music is getting so
the industry is so high-tech now the
sound industry is very very high quality
and wouldn't it be cool to get your
guys's music into some of those newer
platforms of like whatever the next Xbox
hook your they are looking for musicians
legit and I have a former missionary
friend of Japan he's doing tracks for
Konami now and he just makes all this
music and he just sells it in different
companies anime they've used some of his
music different video games what is it
taxi comm you guys heard of that no
maybe maybe it's a platform for
musicians to do just that you know get
your music licensed and published I've
got a buddy who's been working that for
a few years and he was able to quit his
job and just go full-time you know
creating jingles and sound checks and
different things for film and video
games so no yeah so yeah there's
definitely a market wall yeah that'd be
on oh I gotta get on that yes
I'm too lazy to work with the system but
he I mean he swears up and down like if
you if you get in there like
immerse yourself in it and kind of learn
the there's a really good sustainable
well if you guys need a producer kind of
live in Asia and also I speak Chinese
and Japanese you guys I don't I don't
Commission much can be like an Irish
voiceover talent for us too he does all
the voices surprises laughs he hears
them that's how you were able to do him
you just hear I mean you just repeat how
they sound that's right that's funny man
um so we have somebody like I said we
mentioned um Jeremy Bowman he's a
supporter of what I do my music and I
guess he's a mutual friend with you too
he's asking for prayer he wants to he's
struggling with a weed addiction you
know what I'm saying so he's asking for
prayer for that so if one of you guys
don't want y'all feel led to pray for
him and his addiction he say he says he
says he's holding it above his family
anything that's about the families yeah
father God I thank you first and
foremost for the opportunity these guys
Lord thank you for giving Jeremy the
courage and strength to speak out Lord
and to reach out for prayer lord I pray
that you would justify him Lord and and
not only convict him Lord but also just
give him peace God knowing that nobody
nobody's perfect in this in this world
Lord and and it's in our imperfections
that you are made perfect Lord and that
our need for you is made so so obvious
Lord and so prominent or I would be a
liar and a fool if I if I stood here and
claim that I didn't have vices and then
struggles Lord and I'm confident that
every man does down and we all just so
desperately need you Lord so our private
you just give him peace knowing that
he's not alone knowing that he's not
forgotten Lord and knowing that there is
no vice there is no addiction there is
no struggle that's big enough to keep us
from you Lord or to keep you from us I
pray that you'd have your hand and in
his family lord I pray that you give him
strength Lord to be able to to beat his
addiction or die baby to let him find
support in his family God in his church
and his friends Lord I pray that you'd
give him the strength
conviction to reach it out and hold
himself accountable with people around
him Lord who can who can lift him up
Lord and I just thank you again for
giving us the opportunity to come
together and prayer for him god I pray
that you would work this out for your
good Lord just as you do all things for
those who believe in your name we pray
amen amen
anybody out there who struggling with
any type of addiction or idols dealing
with idolatry anything that you're
holding above God or above your family
and and God is a loving father that he
convicts our hearts he doesn't let us
sleep well at night if we have these
things that were hiding from him our
trying to hold hold away from him I
missed a hold and that's the sin it's
not the sin that you're smoking pot it
descent is that you're holding it above
God are you trying to you know I'm
saying you're trying to weasel it in and
look we look back at at Adam and his
he's trying to hide his nakedness from
from God he's trying to cover himself up
when we look at David David danced naked
before God and that's how we're supposed
to be just being open and naked and not
have anything that we're hiding from God
it's like oh that's I mean how could you
even do that that's not even possible
but we still try to do it we try to hide
things from God or God convicts our
hearts and tells us to put certain idols
down certain things in our lives that we
don't need it's not to take it from us
it's not to beat us up it's just like
usually to refine us it's like snot even
a bad thing that you're doing he just
wants to make sure that you love him
more than you love that thing whether
it's a music or a music ministry or
ministry and general career boyfriend
girlfriend whatever it is it could be
anything that exhausts itself higher
than Christ and so the idols are an
interesting thing for everybody and so
because we're laying it down but lay it
down with a sense of expectancy because
I remember finding this out and then we
just start looking for anything in our
lives we start searching our hearts and
searching our lives for anything that
gets more credit or more time than God
does
and we want to get it out so that we can
have more of God so with the idols it's
cool because we lay it down at the altar
and in the Old Testament it's symbolic
of the altar of sacrifice whatever we
have near and dear to us we lay it down
the fire of God consumes it our
sacrifices and it's called a sacrifice
of praise we lay those sacrifices down
on the altar the fire of God consumes it
and for us it's people living in the New
Testament the fire of God is his
presence so his presence consumes it's
in his innocent increase of his presence
when you get that stuff out of your life
so as you lay your idols down whatever
you're trying to hold back from God just
be encouraged that he's gonna she's the
God who answers with fire look at Elijah
he answers with fire and there's gonna
be an increase in your life so so it's
essentially what do you want more that
thing or the fire of God and as you lay
it down as you give it to him expect to
walk in faith expect miracles expect
things to happen as you expect it as you
tune your mind and you begin to look for
these things and see things you begin to
walk in it your prayers will be answered
there'll be nothing that stands in a way
between you and God your being you'll be
in tune you'll be an open vessel for
what he's doing I've seen it many times
in my life and there's times you know
that's that's where we get to where we
are there's all these victories and
different things that are holding us
back or different idols in our mind or
mindsets or belief systems and when we
lay him down he's the God who answers
with fire I've seen it and in the spirit
realm and intimacy yeah one of the idols
that people can carry is sorrow like
just the things that naturally are
happening I mean myself included
everybody I know is going through
something really hard right now and it's
easy to just go into okay well poor me
mode or you feel excused because it's
not just you it's whatever and to lay
that down and to claim the verse he
gives us the garments of joy in place of
the garments of heaviness and I've
noticed like this is the this is my
sword from yesterday just briefly I was
like all right I'm gonna just start
worshiping the Lord from my heart alone
nobody's watching me I'm just gonna
start thanking him even though I feel
like dying right now from stuff that's
been going on I'm like
Thank You Lord and when I did it just
was like this cloud lifted and then I
felt led to just be like my friend joy
was saying okay you just focus on one
spot with your eyes open as pray medic
says we interviewed this guy pragmatic
and see if he doesn't show you something
in the spirit so I was just like all
right I'll try it now so I got really
quiet and I started doing that and I'm
telling you guys like I got taken
something it was like that kind of half
awake half subconscious thing but we
were just so just focused nothing is
distracting you sitting on a porch it's
I'm not kidding I suddenly I'm
underground this was so vivid I'm in
it's underground like the hallway and
I'm just walking forward and there's
this wall and I kind of walk around
looking behind the wall there's this
table bunch of government like military
looking people and then a bunch of like
weird beings standing around this table
meeting with them like what is this and
then one of them is emanating this light
but it's off colored light there's
something wrong with it and then it
looks at me and it has these this
expression of pure like filth like it's
been it's given itself to evil and it
was looking at me and I just kind of
like woke up out of it and I'm like what
the heck was that Lord and he's we're
gonna do an interview with Leonora sarva
tomorrow she's a prophetess and she's
been getting contacted by these people
our new age and they're contacting
aliens and whatever and and she's been
alerting me about this stuff and and
Lord just showed me like this is the
thing that you can see if you just would
like let go of all your problems all
your stuff and just let me take you to
what's really important so I'm thinking
about Trump something about your that's
whatever it is people are fighting about
it and here's a little glimpse of what's
actually going on somewhere and just
maybe it's not even right I'm not saying
this is a prophecy but I just I saw it
it was so vivid this thing was evil it
had like dreadlocks kind of and it was
just light was coming from it but it was
evil it was just like
it was like delighting in the fact that
it was evil and there were these
governmental people working with it like
they're doing something with it I mean
it was weird just just seeing it just I
just I knew there was something about
that but you know you'd like like just
get into the atmosphere of heaven let
God take you where he wants you to take
you and you know there's just a lot out
there you know just put it there just
leave it down and that's the thing work
I guess it's David yeah it ties in with
idols just like because you can have
that or you can have your idol like what
do you want more do you want like I want
those things right some people kind of
get on to you or whatever it's like oh
you just you just want to know you want
to find out how the universe works how
god yes I do
like that's that's a legit thing and it
ties into I mean I love the scripture
Jeremiah 33:3 come unto me and pray and
he says I will show you great and mighty
things that you do not know and cannot
find out I count like it's pretty and
it's pretty intriguing that that you can
come and spend time with the father and
if your hands are clean and your hearts
pure he'll show you things he's never
shown anybody else on the earth it
doesn't that seem crazy though doesn't
that yeah I mean I mean we've been here
for thousands of years God has poured
out his spirit you know upon all flesh
but who can show you things he's never
shown a soul a new revelation of fresh
revelation of his word of stuff that's
in the scripture or even how the spirit
realm moves and operates and how to gain
ground in the spirit realm that's pretty
intriguing to me but it's a conditioning
process people want to know like okay
true seeker what did you do to access
this knowledge like I can't tell you
it's a it's years it's it's these tests
that I'm talking about over and over and
over and over again you do so you do it
so much and you learn what to do and
what not to do and what works and what
doesn't work
and that's why we try to go live and we
talk about these experiences to find out
what what works what happens when you
wake up and there's a spirit standing
over you what do you do
and we have our brother here psalm who
says you pray in jesus name and it they
stop right and there's other people who
have similar stories like that right so
that's what we do when it happens so
it's like it's it's tools it's it's it's
wisdom for the battle to move forward to
learn from other people's mistakes I
think it came what came up in my
Facebook feed yesterday that I saw
shared a year ago you know I'm saying
a wise man learns from his mistakes so
even wiser man learns from the mistakes
of others so we can hear people's
stories about what works what doesn't
work guess what doesn't work when in
dealing with idolatry trying to hide it
from God and key and hold on to it as
long as you want as long as you can that
doesn't work if you try if you're trying
to progress in the spirit and you walk
with God and healing in miracles like if
that's what you want in your life you
have to you have to be open you have to
be in tune with the spirit I got to I
know people I do that though and they're
they literally would sell their family
out for a Harley but again call healings
I know right
that's weird out here man you know what
it and that's the thing it's this is the
body of work where it talks about the
giftings and callings are without
repentance so once you're able to move
around in those realms it doesn't it's
just because you're living in sin
doesn't mean you'd forget how to
prophesy it's like a muscle it's
something you remember how to do you
don't forget how to preach you don't
forget how to take up an offering right
just because I have sin in your life
right the giftings and callings are
still there is definitely still able to
access in them and good or bad they're
just there it doesn't it doesn't have
it's not like if you use it for bad it
does it stops working no you can channel
evil spirits you can pray to evil gods
you can pray to evil angels things like
that you know what I'm saying so it's it
works both ways it's all about the
intentions of the heart well my
grandfather started a cult by the way
and it started because there was this
guy that had a healing ministry but he
was also a pedophile at the same time
and it was a fruit healing ministry yeah
called Fort Lauderdale five the
shepherding movement I mean they it was
over by the time when I was five years
old he died and I grew up on the ashes
of that but never forget what Derek just
said it's true
I got it in my DNA so yeah everything he
said hundred percent but that's
beautiful that Andy you know you're
coming into this like you know the Lord
you've you know the real world the non
church world and you know you're talking
to us like we're I've been raised in the
stuff and you know truth seek has been
raised a lot of this and it's like you
carry something that in some ways you
have got an edge on stuff that we can
also learn from I hope that you'll
continue to just develop and explore and
not necessarily learn only from the
church people because the church people
right now I'm seeing a huge just a civil
war coming and it's happening right in
my house right now of people that gonna
come after you with a knife in the name
of Jesus for god it's horrible you don't
want to deal with those people so
actually we're looking more for for guys
like you that mean business with God and
you're obviously attracting a following
and you're building something new and
you know I mean I just I hope people go
to your website again it's um ministry
music mu zi k calm and can't wait to get
into your stuff I'll be honest with you
I haven't had a chance to listen to it
yet I'm just enjoying your spirit and
your character now I'm gonna I'm really
excited to get into yours it's good it's
good hoping to interview you as well I
had to check it out before because that
would have been a pre what a
prerequisite for having you on the show
if you woulda came to Emmy with some
wack gospel hip-hop music you know Jesus
is the light he is the way follow Jesus
every single day hey you know oh we got
we can't do that was pretty cool dude no
no no if I were to click on your video
and you would've did that in the bunch
of the kids dancing the stuff it would
have been hard to kind of have you
with a green screen the Christian blog
sites won't post will post them be
requisite yes they if they won't have
you that is a prerequisite and like fer
for like many different reasons and
stuff too you know what I'm saying but
uh but that's good man
I mean it's so we did a video and I went
on a rant on it I won't do it man but
it's something about the creativity
level of Christian music and how they
say Christian music is seven years
behind what the world is doing so even
Lecrae like Luke Ray's new album is a
really good album but he's copped their
songs del que there's the Drake song
okay Drake came out with energy like
three four years ago you know and I'm
saying it's a really really good style
album so Luke Ray's copying that there's
on the lecrae album there's a song that
sounds exactly like Big KRIT so on each
song he sounds like different artists
who were in the mainstream and it's like
a copycat I don't I don't think that
we're supposed to do that I think we're
supposed to come up with some new stuff
man I think that we are I think I think
the children of God who ever to hear the
song and the sound of Heaven were able
to come up with something new and
changed change the world with it that's
why I'm thankful I don't I'm not
bragging but I know the power behind my
music and stuff man and I know that many
of the prophets before they talk about
how this these these moves of God are
backed by a new sound a revival that
brings a new sound I mean and every
major revival there was a new type of
music that preceded it and I think that
I'm a part of that I think that what I'm
doing obviously it's not backed by the
church but it doesn't have to be it's
backed by Jesus man I've seen that the
fruit of it and how people are coming
into relationship with God through my
music and through the work that we're
doing and not just me but everybody who
I'm connected with and in this this
movement right now and we don't even
have to know each other it's like if you
hear the spirit and you get with the
wind of the Spirit of the Spirit is it
speaks to you like the wind if you can
be like the wind and be able to move
around and hear what the spirits doing
he'll move you in similar areas and you
can in in the whole level of creativity
creativity is something brand
you don't have to like try to copy off
of somebody or listen to the Insane
Clown Posse and say oh how can i redo
that for in a Christian way no you get
what God and let him speak to you and
come up with something brand-new that
nobody is doing bring something totally
new to the table and they can't say that
you're a copy of this person or your
knockoff of that and it it's not gonna
be accepted by everybody it's not
supposed to but those who press and
those who hear it it's gonna do
something for them in their spirit it's
gonna take them on journeys and give
them revelations of Jesus and in
particular and and share stories of the
Spirit spiritual battles that you've
been through in a new exciting way
because once that's the whole thing with
with this trying to copy even even
though like in in the world we can right
now we can talk about the song panda
panda panda panda awesome song amazing
song but it's done
that songs come and gone all all the
singles now that are coming out loose we
can even we can just keep on back there
was another one on the songs about doing
drugs and stuff and they become number
one singles but only for like a few
weeks and then they're gone and we're
not gonna you're not gonna hear people
riding on the street listening to that
stuff anymore there's no longevity so
what we have is stuff now that we can
put out and for years to come people can
still be impacted and affected by the
quality of music but the Spirit of God
that is in that music and that will
visit you what we're going through when
we created is embedded in the music and
people can have encounter that's what we
have that they don't have they may have
what they're going through is depression
or coming off of trying to come off with
being dope sick and high or or you don't
saying most of them most of them like
future and stuff he's talking about them
percocet mildly percocet he don't even
do that stuff but he puts out music cuz
that's what people want to hear like
this person is polluting the minds of
people he don't even do it so I mean
it's a spiritual warfare when it comes
to this music stuff - man I'm telling
you I'm just glad that I'm finally on
the right side
and man so coool you should tell us
about where you are right now I don't
think he told the told the audience yet
so my studio is a on the on the fringe
of my office back when I back when I
gave my life to God I was I was a drug
dealer and one of the deals that God
wanted me to do was kick that obviously
so I I went to him in prayer and asked
him to give me a sustainable source of
income that would provide for my family
and two years later I am the managing
member of company that's attend about
two million dollars in revenue and we
haven't gone hungry one single day since
just walking away from dealing Chuck so
I mean that's a making a long story real
short but I mean even I mean not more of
a blessing but also a blessing is the
company has grown to the point where I
am able to just put my time and energy
into you know being there for my family
and doing things I love sorry what is it
one of the downfalls is feels like a
family over there we have a lot of fun
awesome oh hey bro thanks for coming on
hanging out with this man we'd love to
do it again here soon go ahead give your
links out one more time Facebook social
media will solve music music spelled the
same in all of these mu zi k so you can
find me at facebook at soul music
YouTube is ministry music or ministry
music calm is the official website so
yeah check us out man
I think I think right now we're giving
out like a free album download if you
sign up for our mailing list so you get
over there on the website you can jump
in there and I think it's my most recent
LP covenant that we're giving out right
now so yeah man all good things and just
onward and upward all right brother god
bless you man thanks for hanging out you
as well as wonderful talk with you guys
god bless you guys start your own PG&E
hope to do an interview I added you on
Facebook at the time yeah let's connect
man for sure I look for
that's more cool this alrighty and eBird
AKA psalm ladies and gentlemen
everyone's got a story right man that
was no story to tell
awesome I'm sure he's got some more gems
to man cuz he said he's you know was
dealing with those demonic realms and
having those experiences and stuff but
it's funny how they shape you even at a
young age huh you know that's I mean
that's kind of where I come from I mean
that's the whole the fringe radio
network - it's like okay how to reach
people that would never go to church or
don't want to hear anything about God
but if you talk about something
supernatural or ghostly or even alien
they might start listening yeah looking
at a lot of comments here you go
you got atom star seed Bay you got Leo
Henry you got kissed Christie ox and God
bless you guys it's really cool to be
talking to your audience thanks for
inviting me on yeah
tree chica kind of a last-minute thing
uh yeah
Chris bars Brandon Lancaster Christina
Pollard hey girl
Jeremy obviously Panda John panda panda
panda Panda yeah man everybody hanging
out in the chat room area it's awesome
love you guys she said it's pronounced
folks Christy folks let tell me about
your book man I haven't I haven't had a
chance to buy your book about it okay I
need to write more books honestly but uh
I wrote a book and it was um it's just
my testimony right some crazy stories in
there about you know dealing with these
these demons and stuff it's called true
seeker Derrick true seeker ghost cars
the testimony of an X which and put it
in a book format and I wrote it a long
time ago and just let it sit there and
then eight years later I was like you
know what let me put these stories in a
book so we tried to edit it the best we
could there's a lot of errors in it and
stuff like that but we put it together
in a book format and I did a short run
press on them I think I'm only printed
up like 25 copies I did a pre-order
sold them all like as soon as I did it
and was excited about it
put some deep stuff in there all of my
stories all of my encounters dealing
with this like spirits and elementals
and my first time and my girlfriend over
coming to visit me
she came over and it was like a
bloodbath my mom and her boyfriend had
got in a fight and it was just blood all
over the walls and handprints or smudges
and crazy stories in there well come
from talking about getting demons casted
out of me and what that felt like and
stuff and anyway so that book is is a
ism it's available on patreon and I quit
pushing it though because you know
writing the book I was excited for my
mama to read it because like we had a
bad relationship coming up I had a you
know I had a pretty pretty bad
upbringing with my mom no dad around my
mom being a party animal but she was a
workaholic too trying to work to provide
for a family but when she wasn't working
she liked to party you know what I'm
saying
yeah so we came up under that so I put a
bunch of that stuff in the book and I
was looking forward to her for her to
read it so that I talked about how like
we had a bad relationship but now that
I'm walking with God he makes all things
new and I like now I'm able to look my
mom and I and tell her I love her and be
able to appreciate my mom now but we
went on a family vacation and she
started reading the PDF version while we
were like three three days into a
vacation up in the mountains and she
read it and she read some of the stories
at the very beginning about her and and
she had a panic attack
she started hyperventilating and
couldn't breathe and started crying and
like went locked herself in the car and
it was just bad dude and it made the
whole rest of the trip like very very
awkward and stuff man that I her husband
was asking her what's wrong what's wrong
baby was like that book the book the
book oh my gosh shouldn't read the book
it was just it was I felt terrible I
felt like a bad son that I shouldn't put
that stuff in there and I thought I did
it in such a way that she'll read it and
then keep reading how it's like ends on
a good note you know what I'm saying but
but it is one thing is showed me is that
many of us in Christ of our path
and the things that we've dealt with or
people have done to us molest
molestation not having a father being
beat by our parents being touched by
family members things like that like
most of us have come to a place where
we're able to let Christ heal that and
we get healing from it and I've dealt
with I've called that stuff out by name
I'll help people do that this is what I
do and we get healing but people who
aren't in Christ they don't get healing
they have to suppress it and act like it
didn't happen and they forget about it
and almost like create another persona
like that was another person who was
vulnerable and so it doesn't affect them
because they a lot of people try to
drink and they do drugs to cover up what
happened to them but the person that
they you know they once were but for
someone in Christ we give it to Jesus he
brings healing to those situations and
he erases it like it never happened were
justified just if I'd had never done it
and that's the power of Christ and
that's one thing I found out when my mom
read it like all those things that she
suppressed and got out of her mind
she read that book it brought her right
back to that stuff man she had a she had
a panic attack man it was it wasn't bad
and I mean it was it was bad and uh so I
don't promote it anymore because of that
but it is on my my patreon so for people
who want to read it and it's their PDF
for I think all the more to promote it I
mean that's weird because I just out of
nowhere I suddenly thought about that of
all the things that we can promote that
you're doing dude you're doing so much
you know that is one thing that I would
love to some time next time we have a
chance to do a show together just talk
about that time at your holy just next
which I mean I don't even know your
whole story yet I need to know
everything and it's a short read man
it's not as like a salon book it may be
like 60 70 pages or something with big
print so it's not long at all yeah well
I wasn't in a witchcraft thing but my
babysitter was she was in a real legit
witch called Janet woods she was um we
interviewed her a few times she actually
went through some of the
worst most horrible illuminati satan
cult stories you can ever imagine and
she tells it in such a way that it's so
hard to listen to you because she can
tell it's just it's so hard for her to
to say what happened to her but she
contacted me you know I just drive
around Taiwan talking all day in my car
or wherever and she happened to see me
talking about dissociative identity
disorder yeah in a positive light like
saying like well if we can do this maybe
there's like a good reason that God gave
us the ability to do that and that the
had made her contact me and say like
Michael I need to talk to you this is
your babysitter you know it's kind of
like weird to have somebody that changed
your diapers listening to your rants and
stuff but she's like I I was in it I was
in a program and I want to start talking
about it and I had no idea about any of
this until a few months ago and it
messed with my world because now I'm
realizing like we've been doing this
research trying to expose Illuminati and
russ dizdar and you name it you know
rest dis are okay like and now you
realize that like in your actual life
from your beginning of your life someone
that was forced to eat baby heart and
watch babies get burned alive and do
horrible wretched sexual you know
rituals was in your life and she been
healed by them but it's just like maybe
that's why I'm a little bit different if
you like this is this kind of changes
you but I would be surprised there's a
lot more people out there I'm Dan Duvall
you know he he's another host and he
interviewed the lady that talked about
the fact that Hell's Angels is covering
up from some kind of huge witch cult
where they're basically breeding babies
for sacrifice somewhere in the States
and under this big farm this like is
this place for women's to the babies are
specifically born for the purpose of
being sacrificed to see yeah yeah I mean
we have a lot of work to do man we go
those babies are and then when when you
step out when you step out and look at
the government
other babies are being born yes to be
sacrificed or put in the army as
sacrifices on the front lines and things
like that man
blood so we got a sacrifice to foreign
gods yeah the weird thing is the
psychics I know we probably covering
this off soon I've got an interview in
the Lenora tomorrow morning I don't know
what time it is but anyway um the
psychics they're contacting the gold
gods from the Bible that were the
enemies of draweth and all those what's
what are the odds
they're like the bad the worst ones yeah
like why isn't it like Thor or like you
know oh I'm Anais Chinese god or
something I'm gonna have a guy on he's a
friend and I'm have him on Thursday and
he's into ritual magic to contact angels
and we're gonna hear about his
experiences and he started off doing it
to contact demons and how the whole
demon thing is more sexy in those realms
where people are doing like you know I'm
saying ritual magic they're doing it to
contact demons so he's doing it to
contact angels he's got these pictures
and stuff he's taking what he's these
angel faces and eyeballs are appearing
on in his stuff so that's gonna be an
interesting story and he's a Christian
or King came from the Christian Church
anyway and still prays in the name of
Jesus and the Holy Spirit and things
like that so that's gonna be an
interesting show Thursday to talk about
some of the stuff to grimoires and stuff
you know oh wow the grunta grimoires
yeah Douglas Dietrich has a lot to say
about that you know what are we doing
man like what what is all this like you
know on screen truth seeker okay yes all
right what are we doing where are we
going star quadrant seven eight
so you come in peace the people that we
interview some of them they don't align
with us some of them are like against
our faith and it's it's really like Star
Trek or something like we're going out
into these random directions in the
universe of the Internet and we can
you know type in any name that you want
I'm looking at Hollywood actors you know
I'm thinking about who else can we
type in the name of your network type in
and some something what they answer you
you know we just talked to um anyway I
don't want to keep names it's like we're
going into new areas and I'm just a
normal guy like I'm really just a normal
guy with a weird life but I'm a pretty
normal guy and I wonder like what this
is gonna become you know as technology
continued to develop and I always love
talking to you because you're doing this
you know and I understand a little bit
of it you're really professional like I
really admire your everything's very
polished but I wonder where this is
headed like the big picture of it you
know like you know it's it's just a very
new thing is yeah there's the big
picture but it's um even these people
that were watching in the chat room
right now who are comment and having
these conversations and stuff it's about
the small picture you know what I'm
saying we can't overlook like like what
it's doing like these people are
listening for a reason like some of
these people work we're an hour and 35
minutes in right now and some of these
people have been listening since the
beginning for a reason
I don't think I'm that compelling I
don't think that my stories are that
cool or I have some type of charisma or
I'm a well-spoken enough to hold your
attention for an hour and 35 minutes
right but um it's something that that
we're able to do this may be from the
Christian perspective is once I hear a
lot of these people are Christians and
they have a relationship with Jesus and
they've been told to stay away from the
things that we talked about the things
that we approach they've been lied to on
many occasions and they know that and
there's nobody in a Christian realm
talking about this even some of the
names you mentioned who are some of the
bigger names they talk about this stuff
but it's all from a negative light stay
away from a lease early yeah our demons
you know what I'm saying and so we just
approach it from a light that makes them
feel okay about their experiences or
they're not crazy because this happened
and they felt like it was okay like
people
have an angelic encounters or alien
encounters if you want to say that and
they don't feel like it's demons if it's
a very beautiful enlightening exchange
that hey know something beautiful man in
that the whole we did a show about I put
the the term abduction in it just the
other day we don't even hear that word
anymore that words like from like the
beds 70s to like the 90s nobody you
don't hear somebody come out saying
they've been abducted
abducted anymore they say they've
they've been contacted or they're
experiencers or whatever they and they
love they're happy about it that they
that something outside of this realm
contacted now mojo I'm Santa but there's
like an ego trip about that you know I
mean I I got into this when I was like
long story short I saw some comment hi
Wow some of our more pal Leonardo live
ers is here dude Leo Henry I am
basically where I'm coming from is okay
I was raised on the ashes of the
discipleship movement and my parents
took us through the whole church thing
and then I went to Japan I almost became
Catholic I started reading GK Chesterton
and I would just walk around Tokyo with
my my good old-fashioned Bible right
here and read it and get miracles and
and the Lord led me to this really crazy
sect of Christianity that most people
just call heretics called the family and
I've been working with them for 10 years
well not really working with them the
whole time but living around them and
now their cult is dying just like my
grandfather's movement died but there
was a lot of good I grew up knowing that
there's a lot of good now I'm dealing
with thousands of people who they'll
never go online talking about this but
they'll come and attack me on my youtube
channel about it if you ever write like
the children of God or the family you'll
find like a lot of my videos about them
trying to preserve what was good but
then the people that grew up that just
they only lived in the group they
couldn't see you know the big picture
they're like oh it was evil and I'm in
this big debate right now about you know
there's pedophiles and there
pedophiles of all the leadership of
course they screwed up everybody does
but the entire baby out with the
bathwater when there was literally
thousands of John Connors getting
prepared to fight the Antichrist when he
shows up and the mark of the beast and
you know the everything that's happening
today basically like we're getting ready
for it it could happen in the decade
next decade I don't know but it's like
there's nobody else prepared for this
stuff and I've looked everywhere and
those guys are the ones that led me to
podcasting yeah they were the ones that
said you should listen to Alex Jones
you should start finding out about this
like well why don't you do a podcast oh
you do a podcast Michael and like oh
wait wait I'll do I don't have time but
I'm just good I got the cell phone here
I'm just gonna start talking to do it
I'm gonna tell them everything and then
five years later I meet Johnny
he invites me to the Fringe things just
built up little by little and now I'm at
the place where I'm trying to just like
bring all this information together it's
not about one sector or the church being
good or bad or or one podcast or and I
speak Japanese and Chinese by the way
and I've been living in these other
cultures and I've really ingrained into
them as much as deeply as I can not just
like I'm living here but like I go into
these cultures I marry them and I mean
you know metaphysical anyway I'm not
that culty but you know it's just like I
just want to know what's real I and
there's a lot of truth out there that
you just don't find out when you live in
America and you offend people when you
say sir and stuff when you talk about
the idea of maybe we can pray for ghosts
in the afterlife I mean what do you
think about that can we pray for people
in purgatory or Catholics believe that I
mean I remember going to a Catholic
funeral and there we had a son I mean
they they actually believe that and
there was a friend of mine when I was
studying under the Hebrew Israelites he
really he would study some of the books
that are in the Catholic Bible which is
the Apocrypha and I think it was myself
it was in the book of Maccabees or not
but
there's a there's that's where they get
that from it talks about like this this
pilgrimage or this voyage that you take
when your soul takes when you die and it
takes seven days to get to heaven and
you're there and you're tempted in your
journey and you can accept Jesus like
all of this stuff that takes place from
that point on and they pray for you for
your your journey right and this joker
this friend of mine he went to uh he
went to like a Baptist tent revival and
they let him speak and he started
preaching this he started quoting out of
those books that aren't aren't you know
I'm sayin recommended by those people
and they kicked him out you know he's
like man they kicked me out I was like
yeah dude you're goin like bringing
something totally foreign to them but
the Catholics believe that you know I'm
sayin those in those scriptures were in
your Bible in the 1611 editions they
were in the Bible they're like that when
we talk about all of the Bible is
inspired by God as God breathed this for
for edification yeah all all scripture
those were part of the scriptures those
were part of the Old Testament yeah make
a good team yeah gotta say we got some
we got some followers here Leo Hendrie
also you found the warrior shut up
borders blog that's an old blog that we
made dear friend of mine write wrote an
article about me you know so embarrassed
and a couple shows together now unite we
can talk forever like we've ever we stay
on topic though if we give a title to a
show but it's just funny because like
we've met we we hardly ever talk off air
yes yeah that's good though right I
think it's great it's like what I have a
conversation like this off air I'm like
why are we recording this you know I'm
that kind of person I'm kind of the
machine gunner like I think all of it
should just be that's why I started
podcasting is having these phone
conversations that turn into three hour
long conversations with four people on
the line prayin edification studying the
Bible this is what I'm coming up with
what do you guys think we're like
we should have recorded this so it's now
it's like that's where the podcasting
came from 2011 when I started doing it
oh my gosh but I haven't been consistent
since then though it wasn't consistency
like I've been off and on find your
first podcast oh god I don't know if
they're available there's a lot of ohms
in there I'm trying to work the arms out
you should edit them and then put in an
O instead of an O man I'm trying I try
to edit some of the older stuff because
there was some gems there so I try to
take the arms and uh and you know you
know you know and I still do it I'm
obviously we're all gonna do it at times
but there was a lot especially when I
had big guest on I got to talk to james
gilliland it's like um you know you know
what I'm saying um it was funny because
there was a lot of comments in the
comment section people making fun of me
and so it's funny it's it's funny to me
because I know I'm not the most
well-spoken person and for someone to
sit through and listen to what I'm
talking about and I have a hard time
getting the point across at times right
and but they're still listening so there
must be something to the content that
I'm not the most I'm not getting you
with eloquent speech wisdom of words but
I am dealing with British I mean I even
tried putting the suit on the whole you
if you wear a suit they'll listen to you
right like I've done that you know I'm
not against it but I've done how many
tiny know just once know a couple of
times there's some older stuff with me
wearing a little suit busted out
no there was there were times where I
wore I wore the jacket but had shorts on
sitting here doing it Sika exposed
mm-hmm learn the secrets of the early
podcast I think my first buck was so
embarrassing I was really following a
lot of Steve quale and Alex Jones and
following their model and and somebody
found this pod guy me knit was like a
zero followed
it was actually in 2011 as well it was
just on YouTube I was just posting
little videos and somebody was like you
know what Michael Bastian you don't need
we already have a Steve quale you don't
need to follow him you know you just be
Michael Bastian I was like really so you
kind of get over yourself after a while
I'm still really self-conscious but I
just don't care him like look this is
important information I'm desperate he's
just got to get it out there and let the
chips fall where they may
yeah and I've tried to I tried to rename
my show a bunch of times it started out
being the awakening podcast and then I
went with the mythos podcast I don't
know I don't know if you can find it was
on blog Talk you may be able to find it
if you're lucky it was on blog talk and
it was on some of the older shows on
talk show maybe maybe not but this goes
back to 2011 man it's all stuff but the
awakening the mythos is podcast we did
for a short period of time we are the
trolls podcast the encountering God
podcast and finally I was trying to
create these movements where people
would feel involved so it wasn't about
me but then in the ends it's like you're
kind of like trying to rebrand all the
time and creating logos and paying for
intros and doing all this stuff and
branding it and building websites and
spending hours and days doing it and
then to only change it's like you know
what true seeker is the brand is who I
am and everything that I share is what
I'm into are interested so just to be to
be okay with to share that and and
people still be involved people are
still like supporting and they feel a
part of the movement no matter what you
call it but uh you know I'm saying
what's in a name anyway you know when
you try to be something that you don't
really enjoy it just gets boring that's
what it's like wearing a suit every day
we're doing like boy yeah that's what
that's the envious thing because I and I
and I've said it MV it's not in a bad
way but in a good way
the scripture says you'll be the envy of
all nations right so to see people doing
what they love to do for a lesson
for living and and not have any
apologies with it and I've got people I
mean I know Joe Rogan talks about that a
lot
my friend Illuminati Congo love to see
what he does for a living he loves doing
what he does he's a rapper he does like
Kundalini Yoga breath work personal
sessions with people all that and he's
able to make an income off of it and I
think we all should not just me but I
think everyone should and when you see
people doing that it's envious in a good
way that it shouldn't drive you to
jealousy that you should re-evaluate
your life and your decisions and and
what you've done up to this point and
how you can be there how you can create
that life that you want for yourself and
the giftings and abilities and talents
that God has given you to bring them out
and how do we do that what do we have to
do and there's many tools and that's
what we're talking about the next show
that I'm gonna release is the whole show
is about that it's about creating the
life that you want for yourself and how
to do it and it's always comes back to
the now moment positive affirmations
speaking things into existence changing
the way that you think and trying to do
something today plant a seed today that
you want to sprout tomorrow or if it's
not planting a seed it may be put in a
little bit of water on it it may be
pulling the weeds out all of that stuff
happens so we have to do something I
don't care if it's sending one email
whatever it is do something today that
you want to manifest tomorrow don't come
like three weeks from now brother ain't
nothing happening well you ain't put
nothing in the ground yet you're not you
haven't even went out there like the
John the Baptist spirit and went out
there to the the hard ground and
actually go out there and work hard use
the muscle and break up the hard and
stony ground though this everything out
of it get the ground right so you can
put some soil in there and that's
symbolic for so many things in our life
that we can't we're not gonna be trusted
with these big great things unless we're
faithful with the few things that God's
given us so if he finds us faithful
he'll give us more that the parable of
the talents and the parable of the sower
if he's given us a little bit what are
we doing with his art with what he's
already given us people are like I got
friends who look at it and they say
brother when the Lord blesses me with
the
millionaire I'm gonna help so many less
fortunate people it you know I can't
wait till he does it and they're there
waiting for God to make them a million
I'm like bro you have so much right now
that you can already help people with in
small ways like help them now and God
finds you faithful doing that look at
look at um Cornelius the man who was who
was given alms before the Lord he was a
Gentile who was walking in the ways of
God and God found him just what he was
doing said look I might use you I found
you faithful you don't want the
limelight you don't want to be seen I'm
gonna use you because you I found I
found your prayers have reached heaven
I'm checking out what you're doing it's
working I'm gonna use you Acts chapter
10 he used Cornelius to change the path
of the life of Peter and all the
disciples who came after to walk in to
deal with the other nations who weren't
Jews or Hebrews and and that's with all
of us man if we're able to be faithful
with the things that God has given us
instead of begging for more or moping
and say you know what I'm gonna take
these two quarters and i'ma rub them
together until they make a dollar
whatever you got man and God blesses
that and then in a just I hear like
people want chairs that you never find
God blessing somebody with a chair low
or table table or a chair they don't
pray for a chair and they appear God
gives you trees and it gives you the
intellect and the intelligence in the
brain to be able to cut those trees down
and make a table out of the trees he's
given you the resources if he's given
you the vision he'll also provide the
provision for you to do it it'll happen
and there's just weird thing in the
Christian churches where it's a bad
thing to pursue your dreams you have to
sacrifice your dreams for the call of
God and you have to be a suffering
servant like I believe that stuff for
pretty time I preach that stuff but now
I found out that that's that's demonic
and probably the reason that I preached
it because I've seen the prosperity
movement and I've seen them begging for
money and if you don't have money then
you're insane and
it's not using you and if you don't tie
as you're gonna be cursed and it gets
really on a demonic tip even with that
so I was like you know what I want to
stay far away from that so I went to on
the other aspect but that's not that's
not it either it's a balance in all
things with the money with giving with
sewing with the sewing time even if you
don't have money to sew sew time and
energy that's all money is this energy
anyway prayer yeah no it will I feel
proud to have just put fifty bucks a
month into Alex Jones his thing back in
2008 until my bank account ran out but I
felt like well you know he was so tiny
back then compared to he is now and and
I don't necessarily agree with
everything on in force but it's like
whether you've got a little bit of money
or you're supporting in the spirit
you're you know you're waking up people
everywhere you go with truth or pray for
us both of us
I mean people contacting me I think
they're just like my husband's baby me
and this is happening and I don't know
that do kids and I'm like look my
daughter was kidnapped I've spent my
life supporting this family thing and
now they're like turning a blind eye I'm
gonna have to start to crying them but
then all their ex members are gonna join
me so it's weird I don't know either
pray for me to cry on each other's
shoulders let's never give up I mean
literally it looks like thor ragnarok
around here like Asgard is about to be
destroyed according to the prophecy and
we're all leaving Asgard and we're going
to the future it's my favorite line
right now and I believe I mean with what
we're doing to each of us our individual
shows getting support for what we're
getting our books and um I got a novel
you know you want to support me go buy
my novel it's like six dollars or
something it's just you know it's just
like the shack on crack but I feel like
what we're doing is so Universal that
it's almost hard to market it or to pin
it down like you can reach out to
anybody and encourage them to come into
this especially with your repertoire of
like hey New Age tear car
it's no problem come on in you know like
everybody loved you just you know
yesterday
I'm sorry not yesterday three or four
days ago I was finishing this spirit
trip prophecy thing about the Andromeda
council which I posted and I was just
working through that the Lord showed me
to do it alright I'll go I'll republish
that thing and I walk in I was feeling
really just low and but praying like God
what am I and I walk into this mall and
there's a tarot card booth and this lady
in there just looks so out of place
her eyes are so shy shiny and bright and
I'm just like okay so yeah what's going
on you know I'm speaking in Chinese
turns out okay so we make friends at
first I'm like oh I'm really off the you
know I shouldn't be coming in here this
is not Christians should do you know
don't talk to fortune tellers she was so
sweet the connection was so strong and
next thing I find out she her main she
was filling in for someone else she's
like a new recruit for this cult and her
headquarters was underneath another
fringe radio network podcasters house
that she just got it in downtown Taipei
yeah then what I'm like hold on we're
taking a selfie together this is this is
gonna figure and this version is how the
ladies like no wait I need to ask my
boss if we can you know the tables were
turned baby I went in there like like
miserable week like what am i doing next
thing I know erekle and I witnessed to
her she wanted to give me a fortune I
was like yeah I talked to God you're out
anyway it was it was like there I felt
like look I want to interview you know I
want to get it get into that you know
with these shows we have Universal cuz
you can reach me but it's it's an
immersive love is universal man you know
what I'm saying and then so therefore if
love fuels our ambition then we're gonna
be good right and then so anything that
we do yeah I mean and then when we talk
about the spirit realm and these
spiritual principles I mean we're talk
obviously we're talking about Tara
we're talking you mentioned that we
talked about prophecy prophetic
traveling the spirit all that stuff is
universal for whatever you want to use
it for good or bad the intention that's
what it's about the intention it sound
like one thing is bad I had I had a
brother who he'd seen that post about
the terror cars and I talked about just
using a deck of tarot cards in there
there if you can have a Christian deck
of tarot cards they're called the turret
of the most high is the name only have
Bible stories and stuff on them right
but but still anyway he had he went he
actually went lava calls me a Facebook
you know I'm saying and uh but then I
had a conversation with him yesterday
where I let you save it you should have
saved that but he didn't but um you know
but I was able to talk to him and I
pretty much won him over because the
stuff is universal like I can show you
the scriptures in the Bible where it
talks about using divination to hear
from God in the Bible and there's so
many scriptures you know what I'm saying
what about that scene where the Prophet
goes to the room inside of a room and
then he hears from God or prophet as I
have the dirge play the music we talked
about that yeah we talked about that
really well playing the music was able
to put them in a state a trance state
essentially right we start hearing the
music put you in a trance state how many
of us when we go to church are used to
go to church they start playing the
music you close your eyes and begin to
worship you're getting all kind of
revelation and downloads about the
future about the what God's doing now
and all kinds of stuff when that music
starts playing that's why I do like what
the churches are doing now because
they're there it's a I mean they're
still preserving some of those ancient
practices of laying on of hands of the
prayer of speaking in tongues the
Kundalini Holy Spirit whatever you want
to call it like they're still doing
these ancient practices even though you
got to put up with all the dogma with it
but some of them are still doing some of
those beautiful practices you know what
I'm saying
and it's funny too because like the
prophets that I came up under the school
of the prophets here in Mobile
yeah they they would go to psychic
events they would go there and so you
want to tell the future okay let you
know uh let let let he said yeah I can
tell the future to let me prophesy to
you let me tell you what God says and
they would prophesy and they would put
the they put the psychics on the
business going there he being able to
hear from God enough to go to
conventions and stuff like that man and
be as confident not scared or I can't go
there I'll be attacked if I go there go
there and expect it's all about
expectancy you go there and you expect
God to show up and you just go the Bible
says go into all the world preach the
gospel you got to go to their minds be
like the first step is to go yeah amen
and you got to have Alan Davenport on
your show sometime have him reach out to
your audience cuz you've got an amazing
live audience and I'm sure a lot of them
would love to get live props see this
guy if you just get like a lot of coffee
and a lot of drinks whatever you need
and you know food and go go for like
three hours for this guy like he gets
really good after about an hour and a
half you like teaches and then suddenly
he's just picking up prophecies about
every single person that calls in yeah
and they are [Â __Â ] accurate it is the
same calling into a show years ago on
blog talk a prophet I called in and his
dude read my mail I had me in tears even
calling out my friends in my life and
calling out what's going on in my life
my friend my best friend's names and
what they're going through and it was
all right on like pinpoint stuff and now
you know I told you I go on the psychic
talk shows they have me on I go on yeah
what's that like yeah I saw some of the
posts God loves people that's where we
need to be why would we mom would we
what's the point of going to a Christian
show I mean what the hell let's go to
the site show these people need what we
have they wanted they're looking they're
hungry let's like have like a bunch of
us go on one of those like just like go
and invade the psychic shows yeah I mean
obviously I say I changed the language
but sometimes I don't sometimes I do I
pray in Jesus name and just dude like I
would normally
do you know what I'm saying but they're
people jesus loves those people he died
for those people he's got a plan for
those people he has things on his heart
that he wants to tell those people all
of them you know what I'm saying but
I've been there I've had the psychics on
my show and uh in their and their
fanbase come over and they want a
reading and they're like I don't want to
be done in Jesus name though no offense
let the other person pray I'm like okay
why not whatever but I'm like if you
want the real deal let me pray bro let
me pray for you wow you want the real
deal architects and then it's funny cuz
God will give me the download and let me
know what's going on and I'm able to
speak to that situation you just got to
be able to hear and able to listen you
know well you got me cornered cuz that's
where I need to work on stuff more -
it's um just listening and praying you
know I mean I I get more faith when I'm
like half awake if I get a vision like
that light being thing with the wicked
face was like that was a real thing but
if I was gonna prophesy for you right
now I wouldn't really know where to
start man I would just start saying nice
things probably they would these get you
some of these okay for real that's me I
didn't I wouldn't know either Chris
Chris is a friend in the chat he told me
- you tell her I got this I don't need
that demonic crap I got the Bible so
Chris Chris had asked me