I’m In A Romantic Relationship With The Ashtar Command | Joy Elaine

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In this episode of The TruthSeekah Podcast TruthSeekah speaks with Joy Elaine about spirituality, fairies, dragons and her romantic relationship with a member of the Ashtar Command. In a nutshell it is believed that the Ashtar Command act somewhat as the guardians of the galaxy. Many people claim to have been in contact with these extraterrestrial beings through channeling. Joy Elaine says that she has been aboard their UFO spacecraft which she says that there are over 26 million craft above the earth right now. Joy goes into detail about an experience that she had with one of the members of the Ashtar Command by the name of Tonas. Tonas told her that they had known each other for thousands of years. Joy explains on the podcast that her and Tonas are now in a romantic relationship and has seen their children that they are to bare. Joy says that it only takes 6 hours for the babies to fully develop and enter the world with all the wisdom of their ancestors. Joy wrote in her book Path of Sweetness that Tonas confirmed that the Ashtar Command ships are superior to all other spaceships. (Remember that since the Ashtar Commanders are non-dual beings they can create or modify a spaceship with a thought while species in duality who are perhaps interested in conquest have to physically construct their ships.) It seems foolhardy to me that other ships would fire upon the ships of the command and yet Tonas said they have. He also told me that the command ships have cloaks of invisibility as well as shields to protect them from attack.

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I'm In A Romantic Relationship With The Ashtar Command | Joy Elaine
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speaking with joy Elaine today joy
welcome to the podcast how are you I am
great thanks for having me on I'm
excited to talk to you and when I looked
at your repertoire and in your books and
the things that you're bringing to the
table it's a wide range of topics so
it's really hard just to say the
pinpoint I like to kind of name the
podcasts as we go live just to kind of
give a general idea about what we're
talking about but you cover a lot of
topics in your books and experiences
throughout your life so we're pretty
much just got guests gonna gonna do an
overview of everything that you bring to
the table and I'm sure I can pull out so
some questions in and out of there that
I already have so if you want to start
off it'd be awesome just to kind of give
an overview about who you are what you
bring to the table and maybe just kind
of set the books up a little bit would
be great all right thanks Terry
so there are six books that I have
self-published and I and they are the
joy chronicles my name is joy so I
thought that was a good title for the
books and they are my experiences with
ascended masters dragons fairies
leprechauns and other beings that we
think many of us may have think that
they are mythical well you know it's
kind of hard when you're not seeing
something to actually maybe believe in
it you know that's that's some of my
close friends or in that position but
the thing is they are not on the same
dimension that we are we've had
interactions in the past if you can
imagine with dragons that weren't so
great and so in the second book that I
wrote called blossoming of love I work
with aghia that's the embodiment of
birth to restore the dragons to earth as
we'd actually killed him off two times
in the past and she brought them back to
the seventh dimension so that's a pretty
safe place because earth is earth and
everything honors is now in the fifth
and sixth dimensions so that's a little
bit of a an overview of where we are
with you know with our evolution
I've studied a modality a healing
modality called serenity vibration
healing since 2003 and the work that I
did with that helped me get clear enough
to bring this information in the books
through and also I learned how to
energetically travel to different
dimensions in different times so that's
where these experiences are occurring
initially in the first book which is
called passive sweetness I step onto
this tenth dimension onto an ashtar
command ship that's beautiful and so my
opening question usually is is I want to
go back to where this stuff started for
you like
what were some of the early experiences
that you've had was that when you were a
little kid most people you know they
have these weird things happening to
them when they're a little kid and
beings coming in their room or being
able to see fairies while they're in the
forest playing and things like that did
you ever have those encounters when you
was a little kid yeah but see the thing
is I grew up and I forgot so glibly a
farm and for the first eight years of my
life I was what I considered a wild
child I mean I was outside as long as
the weather was halfway decent I was
outside barefooted running around on our
farm interacting with the cows and the
animals we raised and climbing the trees
and just living really really close to
nature and of course that's that's the
way that if you want to connect with
nature bit spirits then you need to be
out in nature I didn't really even we
then we moved from that farm when I was
about eight and I was devastated I want
to stay there I just couldn't I just
couldn't imagine living another place
even though we only moved about a mile
down the road I was I cried and cried
and cried and it wasn't till about four
years ago when I'm speaking with one of
my angels Iser said it's you're a fairy
I could talk to and he said how about
you connect with Shania that's a fairy
you knew when you were a little girl she
had forgotten that and so when I
energetically connected with her it was
like I cried you know she said she was
sad when I left too because you know I
was I spent a lot of crying time
climbing trees and she said she would
sit with me in the trees and so then she
said if you come back we can climb a
tree together and I said well you know
I'm not so much into climbing trees she
said well then if you just take off your
shoes and walk on the ground I can't
connect with you so if you're really
interested in connecting with the
fairies that's the best way to spend
some time outside and just get quiet you
know maybe take your shoes off lay down
on a blanket in the grass and just asked
for the fairies communicate with you
they will and eventually you'll start
maybe hearing them or seeing and if you
haven't so far well as everybody
see these fairies when they're little
when they're a baby mm-hmm then we get a
little bit older and we just kind of
maybe you know that's not supported in
our family our society and so we just
forget we just let that go and and
pretend that there are no such things
mm-hmm
that was how I reconnected with a fairy
and I did that at the end of the first
book and then books two or three six
there's just lots of fairy information
yes the thing is where it connects with
your imagination right because we have
all of these different you know things
that we're encountering and a voice told
me this and I seen this in my dream or
whatever these these different ideas are
but when it when you know that realm
crosses over into our realm is when
things kind of get real right
What Where does imagination come into
play with it because it there's a lot of
people who are experts in this field or
so-called maybe self-proclaimed experts
but they've never had a physical
encounter they can tell you all of this
lore magic how to see or hear fairies
but they've never actually seen anything
and it surprises me as all the people
I've talked to on here they've never had
those physical encounters and that
that's like the juicy stuff it's a hold
on something's going on versus it's in
your imagination
I know your imagination it plays a big
part in yeah yeah and I'm said talking
to them telepathically things like that
but when it crosses over what was some
of the first the first times when you
knew that it was real was it with
dealing with this very speaking with you
and then you seen a manifestation or how
did that well see I started practice
practicing for any vibration healing in
2003 and that helped me start to get
really really much clearer improved my
clairaudience my clairvoyance so that I
started seeing things I admit I didn't
hearing and seeing things at NIDA like
many of us do that because we're in a
kind of relaxed state so but now you
wake up and you forget what you saw are
you heard so I can I've been keeping for
probably 20 years I've been keeping a
little digital voice recorder under my
pillow and I
just enough to record what I heard and
then when I wake up in the morning I'm
like oh oh you know that helps you that
helped me to get more in tune with what
was happening and then when I when I
started seeing I know the fairies and
Spence and I'd actually only seen him a
couple of times so it's not like it's it
really isn't an everyday experience for
most people and and it's not really
every day for me but I hear very very
clearly so when you hear a Fairy speak
or when you telepathically get a message
then you know there's no need to try to
convince yourself that they are real I
mean it's it's just you know when you
have those kinds of experiences people
you know you know when you another
person thoughts or when you experience
that paranormal paranormal event nobody
can tell you that you didn't experience
that so that was encouraging for me and
the coolest thing is okay you're
wondering well where are people going to
see these fairies and what are they
going to see the leprechauns and what
are they going to see the Dragons we're
going to see all them when we were in
the 8th dimension they'll be back
because at that point in our evolution
we won't be killing anything we'll be
able to coexist with those species and
those beings now how are we able to
raise our vibration so whenever we are
in a relaxed state or where there's
things that you can do and and in ways
that you could train yourself to see
into those dimensions so like through
meditation through translate things like
that are we able to kind of raise our
vibration to kind of be in both
dimensions at once when we were able to
see a lot of that stuff cross over well
the good news is that we're all raising
our vibration no matter what we do
because that's just a process that earth
is in we're all lifting up now may not
seem like that I mean there's just
describing there's a lot of chaos going
on but that stuff that's coming up to be
released so I mean raising your
vibration that's a wonderful phrase that
you brought to the table I'm really glad
you said it because it can be simple it
can be simple things like stop watching
the news yeah be a little more loving to
yourself
or your kids or your you know your
neighbors
find a job that you really love instead
of one that you hate you know if you if
you follow your passion in that regard
that's really important because if it's
just they're going to work every day and
they just hate it I mean how much how
awful can that be for you you know it
came here reincarnated to be here at
this time because this is the pinnacle
time in Earth's evolution it's it's it's
a happening place so consciously or
unconsciously everybody that's here now
is taking part in this elevation of elam
evolution of Earth so I think it's more
fun to do it consciously and enjoy
Chronicles the books that I've written
give you insights into what's happening
and how you can be a part of the work
we're doing
there's descriptions in the back of each
of the books how you can take part in
the transmissions we send to earth I
mean just started in 2014 in her first
transmission was April of that year so
you'll get a chance to actually travel
in time and it's easy you're just doing
it with your energy body and it's easy
to do you just sit down and you look at
the data in the book where this
transmission happened and you say hey
I'm just going to shut my eyes and I'm
just going to pretend that I'm stepping
onto that spaceship and I'm going to
take part in his work that joy and turn
on TV I start Commandos I met in that
first of all our sending to earth see if
then gifts to yourself from the past how
cool is that
mm-hmm it gets into just like some
really weird questions it's like because
I understand like we're trying to make
sense of it all right everybody has
these different stories that they bring
to the table and we got to figure out
who's telling the truth who's making it
up what's you know are these good
benevolent beings or are they you know
are they demons masquerading as angels
of light if you let some people tell it
so but I understand that there's
description about what it says as a man
thinketh in his heart so shall it be and
I pretty much like whatever you can
believe for whatever you're looking for
you're gonna find it if you want to see
fairies if you want to communicate
with him if you want to see them if you
want to communicate with gnomes and
elementals or you want to contact the
light beings or the ashtar command all
of this stuff you can do whatever you
put your mind to it starts off with your
imagination just that weird blurry line
is like is it already real and I'm able
to tap into those areas or is it real
because I believe it and I'm looking for
it and it kind of becomes a part of my
reality because there's a lot of people
who will never experience this stuff
ever
but we've experienced so much and you've
been encountered so much over your life
so what is it what is it begin with is
it's like because whatever you're
looking for you're gonna find whether
it's goods bad whatever outcome fairies
entities ailing you're gonna find them
they're they whether they exist out
there or they exist because you believe
they exist that's some weird in between
realms there but um how much does that
play and and and and wanting to move
forward and saying are these real
there's a start with an idea of like hey
we exist won't you look for us or
something or we're gonna send these
books to you or you're gonna see this in
a movie and we're gonna speak to you
through that movie and get you to
encounter it's like how does that really
work with with with us pursuing this cuz
it could be kind of weird like hey what
are you doing trying to talk to the
fairies what you talk to the fairies
what fairies you know they don't exist
you're making it up yeah yeah well you
know he's we do create our own reality
individually and Co creatively we're all
creating man and so in the past you know
this is these subjects have not even
been able to be talked about I mean
forget it
forget talking about fairies when I was
growing up I mean I'm one of the baby
boomers you know we're one of the older
generations but you know I've seen
things in the future okay first of all
the parameter life step for the beings
that I connect with are that they are of
the light and they are in the highest
good floor
for me and for the universe so I'm not
messing around with any of the lower
energies any address
that's not where I am I just I just got
I've got shields then I got thanks in
place but I don't have any interactions
with those kinds of beings so when I'm
talking you know what I'm talking with
are like ascended masters or galactic
masters like sananda Jesus is one of the
mentors and people that I speak with so
serious and ESA's and hat or and taught
the Egyptian Pantheon we thought there
were gods and they have the abilities of
God so that's why we say they're gods
but they really are they really have the
abilities that we will eventually have
that can I talk about duality and
non-duality Derek yes
okay so earth is a dual world and it's
always been that way since it's a very
very beginning of birth being created
and humanity is you just again duality
which what's duality duality is their
struggle they're just the right there's
the wrong there's a good there's a bad
there's a hot there's a cold they're the
opposites okay and there's always
resistance to what we want to create now
that you may have noticed at that time
between we want something to manifest
and the time that it actually manifests
is getting shorter I don't know if
you've noticed that or not yes
time is a up in that regard and so as
we're rising as you you're personally
taking control of your own life and
saying hey I'm going to choose things
that are good for me I'm going to choose
things that make me feel good joyful and
happy you you raise your vibration and
when enough of us start doing that or
continue doing that many of us have been
doing that we lift our we lift
collectively our energies so as I said
we're in the fifth and the sixth
dimensions physically right now of
course we're all energy so we exist
everywhere
right I mean we're more than the
physical body so what energy
energetically were everywhere so as we
move up into seven and then finally into
the 8th dimension 8th dimension is the
first non dual dimension of Earth non
duality means and hear me now instant
manifestation you think
what a diamond on my hand you have a
diamond on your hand you think today I'd
like to be a couple inches taller and I
want to look like I'm about 25 and that
manifests
there's no aging there's no illness
there's no hatred there's no war there's
none of the kinds of things that we
experience it's instantly manifesting so
I'm all for that because I've seen
myself in the future I look like I'm
about 23 I didn't really even know who I
was I had to go to the council and I say
who is that who's that woman best thing
that's you I liked it I liked the
possibility that I could be that way now
between seventh dimension and eighths
dimension there's a barrier so people
that are still into hatred into Wars and
all the kind of stuff that we've been
experiencing will not move into that age
dimension yeah who was the embodiment of
birth told me she's not going to leave
anybody behind so we all have that
option available just about you know
taking care of your own stuff duality
and non-duality that's we're in this mix
of moving out of the duality into non
duality is that a bad thing because I've
been I found a lot of peace in embracing
the duality and I'm not just all this
and I'm not just all that there is a
balance in all things you know that's
just fine you know I mean that's a good
way to deal with us with reality that
we're currently existing in it's just
going to get easier it's going to be
easier that as more people start you
know following their dreams following
their passions start you know turning
into who they really are and deciding
that they really want to be you know
that all becomes it all becomes more
graceful and that's really what the
books are about they're really about
having fun while letting people know
what's happening and giving them a
chance to be part of what's happening in
a more conscious manner yeah
best Keys having fun while doing it
versus I don't want to be here I don't
like to you know I'm just mad at
everyone and
about it believes what I believe in just
discourage like that's not a good way to
know and you know we've all done that
and I you know I've had enough tools in
my toolbox my energy toolbox that I can
work on myself and let some of that
stuff go because it doesn't empower you
doesn't it doesn't lift you up it
doesn't make you happy you know we just
get into this habit of we didn't have it
looking at what we don't like
yeah and of course that just feeds that
situation we can shift our thinking to
start focusing on what we do choose what
we do want yep look for the good in your
life look for the good in yourself
that's that's the magic key to do and
it's it's gonna be a little bit
challenging
now you're talking about challenging
what was some of the opposition that you
faced when you embrace your destiny when
you said okay this is Who I am and I'm
gonna walk in and I'm gonna tell people
I'm gonna start writing books and go
public because that's a sometimes that's
a big dark night of the soul a big Gulf
and a gap in between of like I Know Who
I am but I have to do it in secret I
can't let nobody know that I believe
this stuff like word how long was that
gap in and what type of opposition did
you face when you finally say you know
what I don't care what people think this
is who I am well you know luckily I have
a really good support group with the
people that practice the stirring a
vibration healing you know we connect
with each other and support each other
so I have people that have experienced
it's like kinds of things that I've
experienced so you know we wear of like
mind now family is another whole story
yeah I have two boys mother not boys
there yeah there a young man 35 and 41
and I told the younger one a few years
ago when I first started bringing this
information through I said you know we
don't have to die in the future and he
goes mom everybody dies well that's been
true you know and who would want to live
forever if they or didn't feel good or
if they had an old body and I'm not
someone I'm talking about I'm talking
about perpetually regenerating bodies in
the 8th dimension and look
however you want and feeling great so
you know I think and my sons want to
believe me and my older son said mom
when I see a dragon I will be on your
team 100% so you know you can't if if
you experience something personally and
it's vitally important for you to share
it you can't let what people say stop
you that was my main goal in writing
this first book because it wasn't a
write a book you know I know what what
am I going to talk about a friend of
mine who's I work with energetically
said you know I see you writing all
these books my kept saying no she can't
be right and then when I met just asked
our commander and that got to talk about
in the first book stepped aboard his
spaceship I told you his name's Tony oz
he's over 25 million years old I've seen
him he looks like he's 30 okay striking
my hands him I wasn't expecting that and
when I when I did it I thought and I
learned all these met these wonderful
things that he was telling me I didn't I
knew that they were true
the Masters that I've been working with
had also told me those things and so I
thought you know I've got to tell people
I've got to let people know give him
hope
encourage them the only one that earth
is really magical and they're gonna be
you're going to be able to accept that
and feel that magic more and more and
more as we continue to evolve we are
magical human beings just the ordinary
human being is a magical being and we're
gonna remember that we're gonna start
being able to manifest those abilities
that we read about teleporting telepathy
clairvoyance clairaudience all those
kinds of mastery gifts that's that's our
future those around our future and some
of us have experienced those already
you know I've experienced telepathy I'm
teleporting with my energy body now when
I visit these different realms but soon
in the future I'll be able to do that
with my physical body I love the idea of
just saying I think I'll go to Santa
Barbara today and poof there I am
so you know if you don't believe it
that's fine you know everybody yeah
everybody has their own little paradigm
that they can be maybe stuck in I think
it's yeah I think it's important to
approach everything with a little bit of
skepticism though right I mean you want
to just take everybody has a truce
everybody has an encounter some of it
contradicts their other stories or
contradicts the next person or whatever
but so I think it's I think it's healthy
to approach all of this stuff with some
skepticism versus just taking you know
what where the real answer is in your
heart listen to your heart listening to
your own inner guidance you know I could
I could speak from now until you know
three weeks from now and some people are
just going to say this is baloney and
that's theirs perfectly their right to
believe that but if you turn in if you
stop and think about it and just you
know tune into your heart that's that's
the guidance that we're going to be
we're going to be using one more on
heart consciousness
I mean I'm not saying not to use your
brain that's important you know we're
taught to think think think think think
but you know you're not going to find
the answers in this really here you know
the most important answers are gonna
come from brain mix what's hard yeah
that's what becomes real we have these
thoughts and ideas and things like that
that you believe in your mind or have
these awesome ideas even in your heart
but you have to start speaking them out
you got to start creating it confessing
it and you start seeing things around
you change you start seeing your job
situation change you start seeing your
friends start changing and stuff like
that versus just being a victim of life
or just being on default and you just
got all these friends around you who
don't believe in you they that kind of
toxic and your relationship with them
and things like that but you can start
creating that stuff as you believe it if
you can believe it you can create it and
bring it into your reality and you know
I'm saying why wouldn't you want I mean
why would you want to have a bunch of
friends around you who doesn't who don't
support you and they envy you in all
this kind you can have you can create
whatever you want that dream job
have to be stuck at this job I don't
care what kind of circumstances they are
you can create the job that you want for
yourself if you're creating a need if
you're if you're filling a need that
exists and I think everybody has those
things within them that we can do with
just being able to tap into it and
believing it because we've been told
that you know your best days are behind
you and you know you should have tried
20 years ago or 10 years ago and now you
have a family and kids so you just kind
of stuck where you are you know you
start believing all of that stuff and
you just settle for default but uh
understanding the power of creativity
the power of your spoken word and your
thoughts have the power to create that's
why I really like the Scriptures it
talks about renewing your mind over and
over and making sure that you're
thinking beautiful thoughts and you're
filling yourself with love and unity and
things like that because you because the
mind is powerful the things that you're
thinking about you're gonna create them
you're gonna expect them that's why when
we keep we're always in and worry and
doubt and stressing about bills and
fears when we keep thinking about that
stuff that stuff just genuinely just
keeps coming back to us versus thinking
about beautiful things and expecting
blessings and expecting God to use us
and help us to change other people's
life you saw if you have to rewire your
brain but when you start moving like
that believing like that you start
seeing that stuff happen in your
everyday life and all of those beautiful
experiences that biblically that the
disciples Jesus they all experience
healings and miracles and dealing with
angelic beings on higher realms of
density traveling to other dimensions
and all of that stuff they encountered
that stuff on a daily basis so it's
really it's really cool just whenever
like all the holy books and some of the
ancient books talk about this kind of
stuff because I deal with a lot of
people who were coming out of religion
and they've they're scared to have this
conversation you know but it's it's in
the book with you talking about leaving
your body and traveling to other realms
but you said one day you're gonna be
able to take your body with you the
Apostle Paul had some very similar
encounters where he it was so real he
didn't know if he took his body with him
or is your spirit try
to these other realms or whatever so a
lot of people feel like this condemning
spirit when it comes to religion in
their the hierarchy but the Bible really
promotes all of this cons of so that's
why it's really beautiful to talk about
this stuff yeah like when you thought
about mastering and we call it mastering
the mind and there I would like to
direct people to my website because some
of the blog's that I've written one is
about you know self-love how to love
yourself more dreaming the future and
I'm rollin into several of the blogs the
serenity vibration healing work that I
have done so that you can actually do
some energy work yourself you know we're
working with your career we're working
with God and it's not it's not anything
it's only put the serenity vibration
healing work it's put in place by the
Creator and your God self so though that
part of you is know the truth of your
nature knows that it's connected with
and is part of God anyway those blogs
like there's some great ones on the
ferries or someone's i'ma dragons
there's long on self-love there's one on
a bridge into non-duality for a death
search technique that's very simple you
visualize and energy bridge that starts
right where you are and and leaves into
that higher dimension and you step onto
your bridge because you know if you if
you've been like if you're like me in
the past when I had experienced somebody
that I loved or was close to me was in
trouble I would do this I dive right in
trying to help well you know that both
of us your ended up in troubles in it's
called enabling I think you say they all
work anyway you step on your bridge your
bridge your life which is above this
term well that's that might be going on
in your life you've got somebody that's
you know and dicted to something or you
you've tried to help on this network you
step on your bridge and you just
visualize the bridge and it will be it
will be there for you and you see that
turmoil is just flowing underneath the
bridge
and how you help those other people in
your life you just send them up you
stick on your bridge on your a neutral
place on your higher dimensional
location and you send them love it's and
that's called a breach and non-duality
it's on my website on my blog awesome
talk a little bit about your information
regarding the ashtar command how did you
start dialogue with them like how did
those early conversations go how did
they approach you or did you approach
them how did that work out
I pushed him I had been using the
surrounding vibration healing for a long
time to work on myself and then I
started looking around thinking well
guys you know earth could use some help
too because I went back to that time my
head as a child was very connected to
nature
and so I started you know I started
working with some of the some of the
here the energy he was that I work with
personally and I knew that they had high
degree of integrity I started putting
together some some of the things that
they had done that didn't feel quite
complete and and making them more
complete by taking them to the
collective councils of light those
councils oversee everything that is
applied to Earth so I put together this
energy package it was having to do with
the cities of light on earth and I just
used my energy body and I just said on
with I'm going to step on this ashtar
command ship because I'd hurt I'd
learned about the ashtar command from
his other healer sure enough I'm on the
ship and I went with a friend of mine
who does serenity vibration healing also
and she was seeing better than I was at
stun she said oh he's really handsome
I'm thinking oh great well okay I hadn't
been interested in any kind of a
relationship for a long time and she
said he looks like he's very smitten
with you and I'm thinking what and then
she just asked him are you smitten with
her and he goes yes very much so and if
she comes back we can hold hands and I'm
like okay well there's a little more
than I was expecting but that was so
fascinating and of course I had to go
back and later later much later in
several books later I
learned that from sananda was one of the
ascended masters that I work with that
torn us as the iShare commanders named
tonus and I had like had had like seven
hundred and eighty five or six
incarnations together and some of those
since they were on non-dual worlds were
still happening right so it's no wonder
that out of the 86 million asked our
command ships that were located a berth
above earth of that time 86 million I
stepped onto his ship now they're on
higher dimensions on like the ninth the
tenth dimension above earth which so
they wouldn't be visible to us I mean
the cool thing about I mean just think
about the a star commanders they can
they can keep people from coming here
and taking things from Earth but they
can't just come down and fix everything
like my son wants them to do said mom
why don't they just come down and fix
this stuff I said what they can't is
there we have a free world planet we
need to choose what happens here so the
books that are written offer you a
chance to vote your input is vital to
our a gradual evolution and elevation on
my blog there's some there's a site
there's a section called I mean on my
website sorry joy Elaine comm there's a
section of world missions and they're
about four there's probably 15
four-minute recordings of different ways
that you can get involved in helping the
earth one is working with the ashtar
command so 86 million ships there
non-dual beings and they are just here
to support earth and they've been doing
that for thousands of years
have you ever so you said that you it's
been something that you've been done in
the like whether it's the dream state or
just leave in your body have you ever
had any of those encounters that that
showed up in the physical realm whether
it be seeing UFOs or strange lights in
the sky and them communicating with you
that way
well the when you talk to physical realm
they're so different so many different
ways of being in the physical realm and
when I when I interact with these beings
on the higher dimensions I'm either I'm
sleeping it and I wake up for the books
are actually I'm sitting on my on the
sofa in my front room and I'm and
energetically transferring to these
dimensions and I'm and I'm I'm speaking
to them and I've seen I see maggini that
I meet in the first book I've seen tonus
VI chef commander when I when I meant
when I'm doing that so I don't know I
mean they didn't manifest in my front
room because you know they're not
supposed to do that they're supposed to
stay in those higher dimensions are you
let me ask you this are you and just
don't want to be clear are you a
relationship with one of these told us
mmm okay so let me think in the studies
that I do with the ascended masters we
occasionally move back in time to take
tutorials to study with to study with
them in ancient times and tone us and
the second time I met him in this Rhea
in this timeline he told me he'd known
me for a million years he happened to
see me at one of those ancient academies
and he wasn't allowed to talk with me
because that would have been against the
rules you know he couldn't approach me
and I didn't approach him but he
followed me through time to all the
tutorials that I've taken since then and
that's been since 2000 months before
2014 I forget when I actually started
that so with every a said well Wendy
know me for a million years I'm like
holy cow
and he he you know he's he's deeply in
love with me I love him but I haven't I
went to wait to experience the kind of
love that they do in the higher
dimensions because there's no there's no
the relationships that I've experienced
so far you know you end up wanting to
fix the other guy yeah and I
to do that anymore I've avoided any kind
of a relationship and he assured me that
that doesn't happen on the east
dimension you know you just it's a
different kind of love it's an
unconditional full-on love that that I
think I've experienced for my children
but I've never experienced with another
man so it is a romance the long-distance
romance yeah that's interesting
very interesting yeah and let me tell
you something else I've seen the future
where we have two children together
wrong I've seen their children because
they don't have they don't have babies
and the higher dimensions the way we do
is today the child is not conceived
inside the mother
it's conceived in an energy nest but
that's a that's a mother and father form
between them and in the space between
them it takes about six six hours for
the baby to mature and the baby is born
with the entire the memories of the
entire genetic line of both the mother
and father so pretty magical Wow yep let
me ask you about dragons because some
people here I want to know a little bit
about the dragons there's a lot of lore
when it comes to dragons they have like
in the Bible we talks about the
Leviathan he's right the behemoths these
type of creatures that may be literally
existed may be our spiritual entities or
represented nations or people groups but
then again if we look at the Chinese
culture we look at all the other
cultures all over the world dating back
to ancient history we always see these
big statues and the veneration of the
reptilian the veneration of the dragon
what if what are your studies have shown
you and experiences with the Dragons I
talk with I talk with gia that's from
the research that's the embodiment verse
she manifested an energy body to be part
of the celebration we had in the first
book in this series and I asked you
about dragons because you know I was
kind of like I found out that things had
been stolen from earth and I was kind of
well one I didn't want the things that
launder that year and she said and she
and Woon Fred it one friend she
suggested I speak with wound Fred and I
said okay she said he's he was um the
Dragon King and he was the reaction
killed off the Dragons two times in
history birth the last the last dragon
was killed in 420 AD after after Jesus
was killed so I said okay uh uh and it
worked
I used something that the fairies gave
me and work with me and we bred we
brought back all the dragons four
million of them came back I told you I
think that she placed him on the seventh
dimension so they're not flying around
this guy so anyway I talked about site I
talked with Lutheran and she said she
told me that wounded was a healer when
he was in first alive and he was a
golden dragon and he has a really really
deep voice I mean you could imagine the
dragon he's told me he's five elephants
tall and weighs 40 tons she's one of the
biggest dragons and they do fly I
actually invited him to join this
council but we've been told I am raising
a Dre and I shall fight him - parents
try to rescue their baby so well you
know they always did but those man
they're really fired and they do cause
you know this don't situations with
catching things on fire so they're
trying to teach the babies to be know be
calm around humans cuz they really what
much of course just with us peacefully I
mean four million dragons you know
flying in formation now they're they're
not you know we're not supported as well
as they are in the you know you
mentioned China and England and you know
places like in New York people have more
of an openness to believing in those
kinds of beings and here in the states
you know we're a little more skeptical
we're like no no no that's really true
or not but you know hang around you're
gonna see him in the future yeah those
are those are it's interesting
especially when we look at like the game
of Thrones and things like that all the
dragons that are coming back into the
lore and things like that now people are
obsessing with dragons very interesting
book in my series creature on the front
of the dragon print that was born
Mother's Day 2015 and that is very
accurate I really worked closely with
graphic designer and and moon for it and
the frame the descriptions he gave me
that so that you know you're gonna
you're gonna look at what a dragon looks
like that baby was born he was golden
moon furred said you know it's
traditional when the egg starts to crack
open they they both parents breathes
fire on it does the baby emerges I like
oh boy but you know that's just part of
their ritual so you know people I've
talked with a lot of people who
mentioned that Game of Thrones I never
wash it I just got a little bit into it
and it just was too it was too violent
for me I'm really not into that but
dragons you know are gonna be part of
our future and peaceful in a peaceful
way so I'm excited about that
coexisting with the Dragons in the
circus yeah well there's a species of
reptilian that's not so good but you
know and I found that out in the book
but I really you know I really don't
want to focus on that today yeah
definitely well go ahead and plug your
website one more time my Internet's kind
of going in and out right now so I'm
afraid I'm gonna lose you here shortly
joy Elaine jo y al AI n e.com
I'm on Facebook and those are links on
my website I've got some great articles
in my blog about leprechauns and fairies
and King Arthur King Arthur and
Guinevere and the Knights
several of his knights joined our
council in the second book I got Abraham
Lincoln John F Kennedy Cleopatra and
Mark Antony Caesar on the council in
book 2 blossoming of love
and check out the blog I think that if
you're struggling with anything you know
different areas in your life I think
some of those articles are really be
helpful I mean just tune in with your
you know heart consciousness and say you
know is this for me
I hope you I hope it is I think it would
fit a lot of people because it's it's an
easy way to start just start helping
yourself you know there's all the
answers outside of you so what you know
the answer is humans that you Intuit
that are inside you those are the ones
that are important one last question
here I'm gonna take this question from
the chat Christy folks wants to know if
there are good fairies in bad fairies or
are they all good I'm glad she asked
that question because I've read those
books about you know oh you eat
something in the fairy garden and you'll
never leave and they steal children that
is absolutely not true there is no such
thing of the big fairy absolutely that
if you don't remember anything about
this interview there they aren't they
are earth keepers they're about joy and
love and without the fairies this is
what you get mother Mother Earth told me
she said without the fairies earth would
be dead they support every living thing
on earth all trees all the grasses it's
supported by the fairies and the fairies
exist everywhere except Antarctica mr.
Harrod desert and the ocean even if
you're an if you live in a desert as
long as there's some kind of greenery
you're going to have a fairy garden here
and there there's over 25 million
fairies they just cover the earth and
they'd love to interact with you so get
out there and work on their ground and
say hi to your fairies put your feet on
the ground yep put your feet on the
ground thank you for asking that
question that was great I'm glad I had a
chance an awesome well I enjoyed this
discussion joy and love to have you back
on again sometime in the future and I
really enjoyed it so you have a good one
thank you thank you Jerry blessings to
you and yours
alright god bless I'm joy Lane ladies
and gentlemen
Julie I'm sorry about the internet man
this internet some I don't know what's
going on they gotta fix it though I
don't know it's really taking me off I
know I'm going in and out
if you're watching this on the
livestream I believe that the audio
portion will be good if you miss that
part about the Dragons I receive some
comments here where I was cutting in and
out but if you missed that you want to
rehear it make sure you listen to it on
the podcast and because I'm pretty sure
that the the audio will be preserved on
the actual podcast apps so I'm recording
this and I'll upload that audio the
internet provider yeah there some crazy
stuff going on it got really this
interview got really intense really
quick man ain't really weird a lot of
them do a lot of them too hmm I'm just
thinking to myself like like no
disrespect but like the more
conversations I have with people
sometimes the less I believe a lot of
this stuff you know there's like a
common there's a commonality when it
comes to people who were into this stuff
man you know there's something even with
me you know I had to put myself on the
chopping block to like I read some of
your comments y'all are making me laugh
must have been a fairy census to let you
guys know Chris garner says there must
been a fairy census to actually know how
many fairies 25 million I think the
number was twenty five million fairies
out there now there's just a commonality
man with like people who were really far
out there and maybe it's supposed to be
there maybe this is like maybe the
commonality is people who have come from
a harsh upbringing had things taken away
from them no stability had to move
around a lot
taken away from what was what was
magical for them there's just
commonality there that causes people to
go within in to withdraw from society to
withdraw from
their peers even in elementary school in
middle school and kind of go into the
books and go into the fairy lore and go
into Tolkien and all of that stuff and
all that stuff it's beautiful and
magical in itself but there's a
commonality there is that a character
flaw that produces people who are
unstable who don't function well Ince's
society or is that a commonality that is
a perfect concoction for people who were
open to higher understanding to look at
things differently to ask bigger
questions and not be concerned or really
moved with the carnality things of life
are the things of this world - mystical
right because as you believe it you you
create it right we've all got some crazy
stories right I think that's one thing
that links us together then it gets
weird when you start having
relationships with these angelic beings
I know and I'm not the one to call demon
and call this and call that which I
believe in that stuff but then I
remember the last time that uh the
Angels wanted to have relationships with
women what happened
you know Genesis six if you believe that
narrative that the angels looked upon
the daughters of men and saw that they
were fair and wanted to give them
children and let me show you what the
children will look like it gets weird
tone Oz the ashtar command all of these
type of entities like
just because I haven't experienced it
doesn't give me the right to say that
it's wrong or it doesn't exist I mean
look it up you know but just because you
have experienced it doesn't mean doesn't
give you the the fact to say that is
right or truth right I mean it gets
really weird it's really weird
repeatability is one thing it happening
in your mind happening in happening in
your imagination happening in the dream
state there's to me that's a little
slippery when it does cross over that's
mostly you know and I'm taken back to
the Jacy Johnson interview rest in peace
Jacy Johnson but when I'm talking to him
about spirituality and things that go
bump in the night he's into
cryptozoology and he says it becomes his
it lands in his realm or his field of
study and research when something
touches the ground when something
becomes physical ghosts and fairies and
all of these things that live in other
higher dimensions aliens whatever it's
one thing but when they exist and show
up on the earth and move around and and
become physical beings then it becomes
something that I want to look into and
research that we can actually track and
Jacy Johnson it's been one they actually
go out there and track these type of
entities in Bigfoot and all of these
crazy excuse me
Thunderbirds and things mentioned Ivan
cryptozoology the things that touch me
but their feet on the earth you know
what I'm saying and so that's that's the
part set that interest means so there's
a lot of people who I've talked to who
have haven't had those physical
encounters it's been
but who what's real you know the
physical just because it shows up
physically doesn't mean it's more real
than the spirit or the essence of
something the spirit of it right I mean
just because you can't see it doesn't
mean it's not real look at the wind I
mean look at you know some people say
god I can't see God you know but you see
the essence and the life force of God of
the wind you feel it you're moved by it
you know it doesn't mean something that
isn't real just because you can't see it
there's so much stuff going on even with
this blasted internet these signals
being shot everywhere y'all can't see
that but you've experienced it because
I'm a able to go live and talk to a lot
of people at one time
or lack of when it's messing up right
we're able to experience it but um it
gets weird especially the relationship
thing you know what I'm saying something
Chris is talking about psychology here
why do you look for that stuff like why
do you need a relationship with an
entity like why do they want to be with
you intimately because you have failed
relationships did you lose a husband
that you were really close with I've
talked to those ladies you know what I'm
saying and there's similar stories who
would in failed marriages because of
their work or whatever the case is or
the husband went on to wedlock says okay
I got a husband who won't leave me I
mean that even goes into the Christian
psychology of it I'm married to Christ
he'll never leave me he'll never forsake
me unlike some people he will never
leave me never forsake me so there is
you can't benefit from that that
ideology that understanding that truth
you know I talk about that only aspect
of a father having a father walk out and
leave me but I now have a father who
would never do that
and it's personified through Christ
through the Godhead father God why do
you call god father well because
yes you know so that's the with God like
we just try okay well we mixing it
together like we just got to have the
conversation like the name for God is is
yeah or a hyah aah hyah a shara hyah
means I am that I am and I will be
whatsoever I will be and so essentially
like the universal essence of God will
be whatever you need them to be if you
need God to be a father he'll be that if
you need them to be a mother if you need
it to be a husband a friend
so you attract that that's what you need
and that's what it shows up to you as
whatever you need at that specific time
and it becomes real to you and other
people won't experience that and it's
just this really weird realm because
we're talking about things that you
can't see we're talking about things
that you can't experience and but when
it comes to having relationships
extramarital relationships with entities
Chris Garner's posting the red flag I
seen that because I when it comes to
having relationships with entities man
like I've tried to do some stuff like
that in the past years ago when I was
young end up getting possessed a man end
up getting possessed trying to have
relationships with entities doing
rituals out of the Satanic Bible and
things like that with making pacts with
female demons or whatever you want to
call them it just gets really weird man
um you have to draw a red flag you have
to use caution you don't you have to
approach this with a skepticism but then
again just because I haven't experienced
it just because you have an experience
that doesn't mean it's not real but
there's those people listening who
have experienced who knows knows all too
well what it's like to feel that way I
do see that commonality though there
with a lot of people who have been
unstable and me I've been you know I had
that childhood moving from school to
school father walked out looking for
identity looking for you know and then
you find it in these other other
whatever you want to call this but I do
it doesn't negate the fact that this
stuff is a real or it exists just
because you haven't experienced it just
because you haven't encountered it I
mean that's one of the whole mysteries
of this whole thing in general is um you
know we're able to experience things
that other people will never experience
that's a weird notion I believe that
biblically I believe that like I'll show
you things that you don't know and can't
find out what's what a promise from God
gets really really slippery but it's
like the more I talk to people man it's
um I'm a skeptic I'm Thomas the doubter
I doubt it you got to show me show me we
can go we can go within and we're opened
up to a whole realm through spirituality
through our mind we create things we
have imaginary friends that come back
and speak to us women were older you
know what I'm saying like it gets insane
that's funny that uh somebody in the
chat awhile ago posted six six seven
that's kind of a synchronicity for me
because some I don't know why you posted
that but I was listening to the radio
yesterday on satellite radio and the
host was talking about somebody's
address an artist address and was 667
and he was talking when he was the
neighbor of the beast wasn't a beast but
he was a neighbor of the beast
so goodness my dogs are barking um yeah
I think man insane I want to give a
shout out real quick to uh Dave Dave
with uh five to nineteen is zine if you
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magazine they did a feature on me and
they featured Danya on the cover and a
few guys are familiar with the true
seeker podcast I interviewed Danya
several months back really a cool lady
who's has a beautiful voice she also is
in what was she into shoe Fiat no I
can't remember it now but she was into
it was like the offshoot of the Hindu
tradition I can't for some reason the
name is uh I can't think of the name
anyway but they did a spread on me and
I'm just gonna show this on camera right
quick many uh did a spread on me and did
an interview it's really cool so if you
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you can go to five to nuns on comm pick
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so yeah shout out to Dave and uh five
two nuns on for putting this together
doing a featurette on your boy asking me
about life and all the school stuff so
yeah Danya was a really cool guests I
had on here too so that's this year as
well sherry says sounds like her
imagination casting down all imagination
that exalts itself against the knowledge
of God here's the thing though like
which parts of that cast itself against
the knowledge of God in which parts of
the imagination does it take
to believe in the higher realms to even
believe in Christ like we're talking
about like I'll just say like that lady
believes I'm pretty far out there stuff
some pretty weird stuff but as far as
Christianity in the Bible in the church
there's some far-out stuff in the in
those books too right listen pretty
far-out stuff in there so it's so funny
that like people who are into the Bible
or into Christianity will make fun of oh
my god you believe in this oh you know
and they make fun of you and all that
kind of stuff for being far out there um
when the Bible is pretty far out - like
you have to believe in some pretty crazy
stuff to believe in the Bible and um you
know it's just part of it it takes faith
supernatural realms exist and they're
they're kind of iffy they're blurry we
don't know we don't know everything we
don't have it all figured out it would
be too easy then you know but I really
do think that you know bringing all
these conversations together there's
something you can glean from you know
like if we look at I mean we look at
like I said the disciples the Apostles
the prophets like those were some really
spiritual people who were stargazing who
were in contact with God the voice of
God the cloud of God the fire of God you
know what I'm saying they seeing crazy
miracles because they believed it and
they trusted that inner intuition that
inner guidance system that energy PS to
move from one one realm to the next like
the voice of those angels those dreams
beginning an angel speaking to you in
your dreams like that's pretty crazy
right but we have those conversations
like it's real it takes a level of faith
but a lot of times I think it comes with
an encounter first for a lot of people
you just follow the encounter and then
for others maybe they believe it starts
with the imagination and then the
encounters kind of catch up with the
imagination or your belief your belief
system which comes before the other this
thing is probably different for
everybody you know I said I think I'm
doing most of the stuff I'm doing today
started out from those early encounters
I had as a little kid you know seeing
beings in my room and letting me know
that something existed like something's
going on I can't really put our fingers
on it and say this is what it okay that
was demons from the seventh dimension
who came to check on me or came to
extract my DNA or came to put fear in my
heart like you really it's really it's
slippery all of it is every single bit
of it and it moves in the realms when
people started doing this stuff were
they moving too around where they just
start making it up as they go and what
do you make it up from you pull it out
of your imagination you know there are
those people that are in in all of these
realms they're in Christianity they're
in the New Age circles they are the
quarry Goods the David Wilcock Emery
Smiths they are these people who make
this stuff up as they go like are they
having these encounters or are they just
really good storytellers some of these
people are just really good storytellers
and if you say something with a level of
authority the masses the people looking
for somebody to follow the people
looking for truths a lot of times
they'll believe it hook line hook line
and sinker just because the way you
present it as a Jordan Maxwell as a bill
donohue oh man bill Donahue this like if
you if you say it like it's real people
will believe it man you know but at the
same time you put yourself out there too
to belittle other people's beliefs or to
say what's real and what isn't
Rene Ruiz says spiritual discernment
shout-out to Rene how are you my friend
shoutout to Jakob without brother Chris
Guarnere by holding us down in the chat
Jared yeah
Cheri says once you fight demons I think
you keep your guard up a little more
yeah I do say that um I have and because
that's where I come from right demonic
realm but then again you don't want to
have your guard up so that you just shut
down to everything you know what I'm
saying so then it gets kind of block out
all the like everything or just call it
like it says those Christians out there
who call everything demon demonic they
call everything everything those demons
you know we don't want to be those
people either expansion of the mind
expansion of the consciousness but just
you know um Christie folk says follow
Jesus follow Christ to a place on fathom
see that's the team and I did that for
me that's the safe zone like that's the
discernment for me it's Christ you know
I'm saying like everybody's different
but for me follow following crisis of
mystical experience going into those
realms through Christ having that
relationship with Christ with God and if
God opens up those doors if you can
believe for it you can do it through him
which I believe is the right way which
is you know but then again you know God
is all God is in a little bit of
everything so Christ in you the hope of
glory Chris Paul says Christ out of you
is the manifestation of that glory
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these other dimensions and alternative
realities are a slippery slope best to
have grounded grounded footing in Christ
yeah yeah start there because that's all
the mystical experience you'd need you
have access to everything through Christ
you really do that's I mean don't fight
it that's really what it comes back down
to and whatever Christ leads you to you
don't saying like do that approach it
through Christ if you lead you to the a
stark command that's what he does if you
lead you to the Elohim if you lead you
to the platings that's between you and
them you don't like but ya go through
Christ he is the gate here's the door
you don't saying do it the right way
don't get possessed protect your neck
for real with that I'm say peace and
Shalom I see y'all in discord love y'all
peace
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