In this episode TruthSeekah is joined by Dhanya as the two discuss Bhakti Yoga Spirituality and the similarities between Christianity and other ancient religions. Comparative theology and syncretism is a huge topic on The TruthSeekah Podcast and this episode explores some of the practices that show that spirituality and awakening are universal concepts regardless of religion. As stated in the show Dhanya comes from an eclectic background and even had early roots in Roman Catholicism and points out the emphasis on what some would call goddess worship or the divine feminine as venerated through the mother mary or The Queen of Heaven as she is also called in the Bible. In order for us to grow as a people we cannot be afraid of conversation with people from other traditions or faiths. As we have learned from this show on many occasions we really have more in common with people than we have differences. In religion we are taught to focus on the things that “set us apart” but the essence of spirituality teaches us to find common ground and with much avail there is a lot to build upon. Bhakti Yoga comes from the Hindu tradition where there are references to many gods, goddesses and deities. There is contention within the faith that says that maybe these deities are to be taken literal while other purpose that they are but artistic representations of the human psyche or cognitive experience. These contentions are very similar to those found within branches of the Christian tradition seeing as most would take the Bible literal and word for word while others see the beauty of the allegory written therein. Also mentioned in this episode is the fact that it doesn’t matter if these gods literally existed or if the Biblical characters once lived, it does not negate the power of the story and allegory. The two faiths if looked at subjectively have more in common than not. As Billy Graham stated “God has called out for himself a remnant of people for his namesake and many of them have never even heard the name of Jesus but by their actions they know God deep down within”. This is what draws us together and is essentially what the new covenant is which is mentioned in the Holy Bible ” I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord.” Jeremiah 31:31-34. This text says that God would reveal himself to everyone and nobody would have to “teach you to know God”. Our conscious declares the law of God written on our hearts. God is willing to deal with anyone as long as they turn from their wickedness.
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So I have something in common with this next guest, some awesome music at that and some talking about spirituality and just really embodying awakening. So I think that's really cool. We're going to hear about her story. Today, joining me on the podcast is Daniel. Welcome to the show. How are you? Good. Thank you. Thank you for having me. It was exciting. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you for being here with me. I heard you knew single featuring MC Yogi. It was awesome. The single is entitled another lifetime and a soft of your debut album, album, which is self-titled, same name. So So awesome song, man, I love MC Yogi and I was introduced to pretty much your work through that collab, right? I've seen this name one there and I'm really getting into your work. Your videos are awesome. You did a video for a song called Fire, which everybody needs to go check out. Really good stuff. Thank you so much. I was a super exciting collaboration to work with MC Yogi. Heck yeah. So have you been doing like a lot of festivals and things like that, a lot of concerts? Well, a lot of my audience right now is mostly in yoga studios. I traveled and did kirtan with the group the Mayapuris. And so as a supporting musician with them, I made a lot of really strong connections and relationships with people in the yoga studio circuit. So that's mostly where I've been doing stuff now, but we're also doing festivals of color and just trying to get the music out there since it was just released. or trying to see kind of spread the seeds far and wide and see what grows where. So talking about the subject matter, we're talking about spirituality and awakening and stuff like that, I'm really interested to hear your story, to hear what kind of got you into yoga, the healing practices and things like that and understanding the healing therapy of music, the music being able to kind of sing over people and just inspire and spark creativity within people which is healing in general. So let's talk a little bit about it when we're talking about spirituality or awakening. What was some of the earliest experiences that you had maybe as a kid? Like a lot of people are very sensitive to the spirit realm. Maybe they have paranormal encounters or sea angels and things like that. You have any of those encounters from like when you was younger? Well, my parents raised me in the Black Tea tradition. So it's the tradition that was kind of founded in based in India. And so a lot of my practices growing up were kind of inherently mystical, inherently spiritually charged. We had altars in our home, and we would sing prayers by chanting. We had mantra meditation, solitary mantra meditation like on beads, japa, and then also group mantra meditation, kirtan. So a lot of our focus growing up was definitely coming in contact with that, and we also kind of read a lot of philosophy. We, you know, our primary book is a Bhagavad Gita. So a lot of reading the Gita, but also, you know, growing up with the kind of mystical practices of Catholicism, my mom's family is Catholic and, you know, even very, kind of nature-oriented experiences growing up in Venezuela, being in contact with very, like, raw forms of nature. I also experience that, especially in my teen years a very strong kind of spiritual awakening. So I would say I had a pretty eclectic blend. My parents were very open to me exploring different forms of spirituality and kind of finding my own way, but definitely, you know, the root practice for me, especially growing up was bhakti yoga. What is that? As far as like the catalysis I'm coming to play, is it just more like the ritualistic, more conservative type aspects of your faith or was there any of like the spirituality involved in that as well? I think the spirituality in the Catholicism that I was in touch with was very community-oriented. It didn't feel so ritualistic. You know that structure is kind of always there but it was very community-oriented. It had a lot to do with service. It had a lot to do with developing the qualities of kind of compassion, forgiveness, seeing unity across all faiths, and also a lot of focus on the divine feminine, which is a thoughts that you say that, yeah. Really characteristic of especially Latin American cultural kind of Catholicism, so a lot of understanding the divine feminine, the divine feminine, manifesting miracles, you know, things like that was definitely something I was strongly exposed to. that's cool that you mentioned being in Catholicism somewhat and being able to see the beauty of all paths through that because like the word Catholic or Catholicism means the universal religion so essentially man like you could you could be a part of that and still have you could be open and you don't have to be set to, you know, Jesus, Mary, and God, every religion has, you know, these three type of holy trinities with the Father, Son, and Mother for the most part, and which is awesome that you actually experience that. A lot of people would speak against it, and they come at it from like a place of judgment from like the Christian community and stuff, and they would talk about how the veneration of the mother and the veneration of the woman is done in Catholicism and it's really like a, you know, they taught on this, you know, God is a father and we, you know, we just need to worship the father. But when you get into it and understand like the roots of religion that, that if it's just the masculine or if it's just the feminine, then I think things are kind of out of whack and out of balance. but we really have both sides, which is in everything, whether you're following that or not, it's there. And so for us to get in touch with that is that's where the power lies with the balance. So what would you say to that like kind of merging the two? Because we see some people like it's all about the divine feminine or it's all about the righteous father or whatever the case is. Yeah, yeah, I definitely think that inevitably, because humans are the ones that are practicing it, there's kind of inherent flaws in kind of any religious institution, just like in any institution, religious or not. So we kind of project whatever our boundaries are on to our understanding of the divine, right? But what I was taught from a very young age and it's a foundational understanding in Bhakti Yoga is that the divine is masculine and feminine. It can't be exclusive of anything because that's what the absolute divine is. It means all contradictions lie within it. all forms, the whole spectrum of masculine to feminine expression, and everything in between is included there. So it's not even like a balance of two things. It's the balance of all things. Everything is included in there. And that's, for me, one of the most satisfying things about bhakti yoga that it has, an equal emphasis on all aspects of the divine. And there's, you know, even when we chant, you know, the Mahamantra, which is our primary mantra, you're acknowledging the divine mask and the divine feminine, in equal proportions throughout the entire mantra. So that's a very, for me, it's like a very comprehensive, complete understanding of, yeah, the divine nature. So talking about like the mystical aspects of your faith and stuff like that, is so, is it open for and Jelic encounter, into dimensional beings, whatever people talk about going in the meditation, connecting with their higher self and angels and things like that. Have you experienced that kind of stuff? Was that common for you growing up? Or is that maybe a different path to take in the religion itself or the practice itself? So the practice itself kind of inherently is transcendent, right? So our philosophy is based on the principle that sound is a purest form, and it creates consciousness, so sound proceeds consciousness. And so, because you're coming in contact, the more pure the sound is that you're coming in contact with, the greater your ability to connect to all living beings and see that that kind of divine spark lies within all of them. So in that, of course, that means that you have access to higher planetary systems, lower planetary systems, an expanded vision of your current planetary system, all kinds of different beings. The goal is to be able to see all of those beings equal kind of in value. And so that's a big part of our practice. As far as things that feel like kind of supernatural phenomenons and like, you know, I personally don't feel like I've had experience in that realm. I know many people who have had that experience. I don't know necessarily that our practice is designed specifically with that purpose, but it kind of happens inevitably because is what you're doing is kind of breaking out of these thick, thick layers of kind of just material, yeah, just matter. And so the further outside of matter, you go the more you come in contact with subtle energy is the more you come in contact eventually with, you know, your inherent spiritual energy and that of others. So it's definitely in the process, though it's not really, you know, Max, you know, you kind of go into it to connect, like it happens, it happens, type deal. So I mean, it kind of sounds like it's a spiritual experience and encounter in itself just to just to be connected with the universe, with God, with all energy, so whatever, and being at one, like that in itself is, like you say, transcendent, and there's not a lot of people who, I think there's not a lot of people who can come to terms with that, just being with one, because there's so much inner turmoil within themselves or within their religious practice or faith or contradictions that they can't get over but you're talking about embracing it all and being one with it also that's a spiritual connection in itself right? Yeah absolutely I mean the cool thing about for me the cool thing about mantra meditation is that it's not tied to a faith you don't have to have a certain set of spiritual beliefs you don't have to even be convinced of anything the cool thing about kirtan and mantra meditation is that you can come with all of your doubts with all of the contradictions, with all of the shortcomings that you may be experiencing or that you may experience from others, and you sit down and you do the practice and you just being there and doing it is the practice, the means and the goal are the same, which is to come in contact with pure sound and allow the sound itself to kind of do its work and undo all the layers. So definitely, it's a such a powerful way of connecting directly to a spiritual practice without having all the trappings of individual and institution and all those things. It's so funny, man, because I've had a lot of people start telling me about the faith and stuff and you should look into it, bro, this type of things, because they're listening to my podcast and they're listening to some of the things that I'm talking about and it's like, dude, if you haven't looked into it, it's right up your alley and everything you're saying is where I'm approaching life or spirituality from and I come from the Christian tradition or whatever, but understanding it even more, even the scriptures, even the Bible of what the Bible really teaches or whatever, some of the spiritual teachings of allegory that is kind of woven throughout the scriptures are teaching what I believe you're talking about, you know what I'm saying? So about oneness, about all of it, everything's God, like everything is the universe, and it's all good. You know what I'm saying? Even the bad stuff that we deal with, the stuff that we don't understand, but all of it being used for this divine, beautiful purpose and to kind of be at one with that and not fight it, not be against it, not trying to be right or having to prove your stance or whatever. That's, it sounds a lot like what you're talking about. Mm-hmm, yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's, that's essentially it, basically. God means the all inclusive. Everything is an expansion of God's energy because if there's something that wasn't a part of God's energy, then God wouldn't be God. That's the essential, that's the essential understanding. And so kind of connecting with that and seeing like, okay, even the material is an expansion of God's energy. So it's not that it's not real, it just means it's not permanent, you know? So is there like the expressions, would it be like a form of Hinduism? Is there expressions of the different gods and goddesses that have been arrayed it as well in the practice? Definitely for Bhakti Yoga kind of Hinduism is kind of a distillation, let's say. It's something that kind of came out of Bhakti Yoga. So Bhakti Yoga is just the process, right? And so all forms of devotion, all forms of devotional service, especially are considered Bhakti Yoga, which means that you could be doing Bhakti Yoga as a Catholic student, as a Jewish student, as a student of Islam, you know, in any faith you could be practicing bhakti yoga because bhakti just means loving devotional service. But originally, yes, our scriptures come from India and a lot of important historical events happened in India according to, you know, our understanding and our practice a lot of our places of pilgrimage are also in India. So it's related to Hinduism in the sense that a lot of the typical Hindu personalities that are worshipped are also worshipped in bhakti Let me ask you about that because like coming to the understanding of what I've come through with the scriptures with the Hebrew Bible, I understand that like the characters and the people named King David Adam Solomon, like all of these people are expressions and allegory of us, of our psyche, of things that we go through in life, these different personifications that on the human experience or on the spiritual experience, we're going to kind of play out each one of those roles at some given point, right? And we're going to kind of relate to those people. We're not, we're not reading their story. We're really reading our story. Would it be safe to say, because I've, in my studies, that's kind of getting close to this. Is that somewhat of the, the Hindu gods would be not like all you worship a thousand gods is what people would say. Is it more of just these different expressions of one, all or even of yourself of the different things about you, about your personality, your psyche, the things that you go through that you would have an image of that God or an image of that personification that is about this certain aspect of one presence. Does that make sense at all? Yeah, it totally does make sense. And I think that this is something that gets debated sometimes, and it's definitely there's different perspectives from the perspective that I kind of adhered to and that I've been taught. It's that, you know, these different personalities, you know, you hear about Hanuman and Lord Shiva and Brahman, you know, Lakshmi and, you know, Durga, they're all personalities in the sense that they exist of their own right. They're their own people. And by learning about their stories and learning about their activities, their pastimes, are qualities, you can see some of what happens in your own life kind of reflected there. And you say, oh, well, I understand what's going on for me because this has happened to this great personality. And it also gives you something to aspire to in terms of their godly qualities, their good qualities. So they are their own personalities of their own right. And a lot of their teachings and a lot of their lives are kind of lessons in how we should be managing things as well. So from the back to yoga perspective, it doesn't have to be either or, either it's an allegory or it's an actual person who had all these things going on. It's kind of both because they do exist. They are their own personalities and expansions of the, you know, original divine source. And yet so much of what they go through is easily identifiable as our own kind of obstacles and struggles. Yeah, it's so funny. I've come to this conclusion with with the Bible. I'm not the only one. There's many before me, you know, the hero's journey, Joseph Campbell and these other other scholars and things. But talking about that, it's allegory, but then there's the bait of the people who were like, want these people in the Old Testament, or even in New Testament, whatever, to exist because they feel like if these people really existed, then it kind of proves their religion or proves their standpoint that no, Moses really was an actual person and he lived and he did this and whatever, but when it comes down to it, it's the same, it's kind of like a mirror image of even the debate you're talking about within, within the faith, but when it comes down to it, I stand upon like, the power is not in if the person existed. Moses, David, Solomon, these guys could have never existed. That doesn't take away the power of the story. The power is when you read these stories and apply them to your life and see yourself in them and the ways that they overcame, you overcome and the way they cast down, the things that are coming against them. They face their giants and their life, those type of things. That's where the power is when you apply it to your life. Them just simply existing as historical figures really doesn't mean nothing except that you want to keep the religious aspect of it just to be right versus applying the principles of the faith to, you know, I'm saying to your life. So sounds very similar to kind of like the, the debate that's kind of going on within, within your, your belief as well. It's pretty cool. Yeah. I think that that exists within all faiths. I think that there's definitely a fine line between yeah, people's level of comfort with, you know, this is a person. What if it's a lie or something? Exactly. What if what if the story and then people just took a story, you know, that was meant to be a metaphor. And I think that it really calls us to go deeper into the teachings and also to seek out those who have been in the faith and in the practice a little bit longer to seek guidance because they're realization, because of their depth of practice, because of their own life experiences and whatever's been revealed to them can guide us. I believe very strongly in finding spiritual teachers who can kind of illuminate the path for you that way if there's an obstacle that they they can kind of guide you through such as this, personalism versus in-personism, necessarily by finding a teacher, they're just gonna have a more developed perspective and they may shine some light on something that we may not be seeing. Yeah, that's awesome. So moving on to the music aspect of it, like we're in the live chat right now, people are asking, they wanna know about the healing power of music or can music be used to heal. I think approaching that would be from the state of duality as well, if music can be caused to cause destruction and war and help you to grieve and cope and things like that, it can be used for healing as well. Have you had any, I think as you get out there more and you've kind of been around, I think it kind of comes, especially with the type of music that you're doing, do you get those testimonies from people like I was dealing with this and then your music helped me to release it or I'm able to experience God through your music, those type of things where people are experiencing healing by listening to your music? I definitely have received the feedback that, you know, my music has, you know, moved people strongly, and I can relate to that because my music moves me strongly, not in the sense that, you know, the music is amazing, and that's why X, Y, Z. It's because the music is infused with the power of mantra and consciousness manifest through sound is going to have effect, you know, just think of the power of words, the power of writing, you know, even when you read something, even though it's on paper, as you're reading it, it's the sound of your mind kind of reading it to you. There's a voice there that reads even as you read things that are on paper. So sound is absolutely the most powerful way of communicating from my standpoint. And I do feel that it's very possible to heal through sound. I don't think that, you know, those of us who are into creating conscious music would feel justified in our efforts if we didn't truly believe in the power of sound to create, you know, upliftment and healing and illumination and progress essentially internally and also out in the world. What was some of the things that kind of got you into music? I guess it's always been a part of your life and your faith or whatever. So is it like an expression of that? Did that kind kind of just mirror over or was there like a mixture of some of the you know the sounds of the ancient world meets some maybe stuff on the radio or or popular music of the day was it I mean what was some of your influences as far as like getting into music? Yeah well there's definitely that blend that you were talking about. I dad is a musician by profession so I grew up in a musical household he's a singer he's a songwriter, he also plays piano and he's very well known in many places South America, Spain. So growing up in a musical household, I was exposed to what is our primary spiritual practice to spiritual music and mantra meditation, but I also grew up listening to the Beatles and Pink Floyd and Jimmy Hendrix and Janice Jopland and then, you know, as I was doing my own kind of musical exploration that evolved into the R&B world, and as a teenager, you know, I grew up very much in the kind of underground electronic scene in Caracas in Venezuela and, you know, just kind of really exploring the world of music. You know, I'm like really nerdy about music. I love to know about the artists and their equipment and their instruments and how they learn and how they write. So for me, it's always been a blend of traditional, devotional sounds like coile music and kirtana, you know, but it's also been, you know, very modern. What is on the radio? What is out there? What are artists doing, you know, popular and also underground alternative independent artists as well? So it's a huge blend of kind of all of those things. Yeah, it's beautiful because there's that electronic feel as well too, you know, some of the stuff that's kind of, you know, I'm saying reminisced of the 90s stuff too with that, with that love. Really cool. So there's a big difference when listening to music or versus like stuff that's on the radio. I hate this be judgmental, but some of the stuff that's on the radio now versus some of the names that you mentioned. So you didn't mention the people who on the radio now. You mentioned Janice Joplin, you know what I'm saying? Like Elvis the Beatles, these people, Bob Marley, like who put a piece of them came out and is on the music. Like they sung from a place of experience, a place of hurt, a place of glory, like whatever they're going to really to embody what a psalmist would be. You know what I'm saying? Just a part of them is in the music versus, you know, somebody else, there's a difference between somebody, a songwriter writing a song for you. And then that person, you're getting a piece of that emotion. You talk a little bit about that. Yeah, definitely. I think that there are these kind of golden periods of music where the artists are creating art because it's what's kind of born from them. You know, you don't hear later Beatles albums and go, you know, they were really trying to make a commercial hit here. I can tell they were aiming for the radio. It was like the opposite. They were so much trying to escape the commercialization of their music and their image that they went deeply internal and what comes out is this like massive exploration of different sounds and feelings and all of their kind of inner experience and that's super powerful and at that time the audience wanted that. They wanted music of substance and I think that there's always been artists throughout time that are able to stay connected to that current of I make music from what is born you know from my heart and from my mind and then you know there's just kind of what's going on now or for however long it's been going on maybe a couple of decades where it's just commercial music it's music to make money it's music to kind of party to it's not necessarily tied to an elevated consciousness and it's not really doesn't feel introspective it's not a song that you listen to and you go wow oh my god that really like it resonates so deep that meant something to me it's just kind of like well I was fun to listen to and then you kind of move on yeah there's a huge there's a huge massive difference and I think that audiences are really thirsting for meaningful conscious sound whether they know it or they don't is a different story but definitely the more I kind of travel and tour and play and connect with audiences. The more I realize like it's not satisfying them. Whatever they're hearing on the radio is not feeling that space that is kind of reserved for uplifting conscious sound. A lot of what we're hearing now, even though it's, I can't say that it's bad music. I mean, they're, I mean, they know how to write a hit. They, I mean, those people know how to do it. And the song blows up. They get success from it. They live a, you know, I'm and very wealthy life off of it, they get in the top charts, but then maybe six months later, nobody's listening to that song again. There's so many songs that have come and gone within the last 10 years, 11 years, whatever, 12 years that I know of that were huge hits, especially in like the hip hop realms and stuff like that. Nobody's riding on a street listening to this music anymore, that were that were number one singles in those those realms and stuff. So, um, it's about I think it's about having like music with longevity, like something that if a piece of view or a piece of that artist is in there, I think that's going to that's a piece of their life and it's going to it's going to live in there like it. It almost like creates a timestamp, right, of a piece of their life being in there, not versus just something that's formulated and kind of thrown together. So that's really cool. We're talking about that, but like there's all all of these other artists too Is that polite to stay relevant? Most of these guys we in it. There's been so many bands so many rap artists to where like when they started out They were hungry like they wanted to be successful and they but in their music was a piece of them and The first album is amazing phenomenal sophomore maybe goes down a little bit and then after that They don't have time to write music. They have songwriters. They just come They're living that lifestyle and then they kind of they kind of fall off and there's been so many people who are legendary and As far as the career goes like a lot of people are I don't want to say blessed But a lot of people who have died at the height of their success Like they go on they they're remembered for that body of work versus all these other guys who had to hit rock bottom and then they put out records and records and records that nobody's resonating with anymore but we still remember the old work you know it's this whole to to remain relevant and the stuff that that that people are willing to do or stay in Hungary but there is that there's those groups like you're talking about that you anticipate the new material I think tool for me is a big big one for me but what are some of the people that kind of stand out for you like these groups are like the first album was amazing second album but then it's like they're still going but it's like they're just doing it because they it's what they do you know yeah well for me I think probably the most salient artists and probably the most influential in terms of my own music is Bjork um she is in school and she's just she's so many decades ahead of where everybody else is at, like listening to some of her songs from the early 90s, from early 2000s, you realize that's where music is going now, even in terms of just production, what to speak of songwriting and themes and, you know, and she's just constantly kind of pushing the envelope in terms of revealing, being authentic, her last couple of albums are just as vulnerable and raw as it gets in terms of personal content, in terms of creativity, you know, and she has such a gift for presenting a strong, powerful, soft, vulnerable, feminine figure without tipping into that kind of commercial sexuality, you know, that commodifying the female body, that kind of thing. You see, she's never slipped into that. And for me, that holds such a power from a feminine standpoint that it's not about selling your body or selling your sexuality or anything like that, she doesn't feel asexual. She seems sensual and totally in touch with herself, but it doesn't feel like she's commercializing it. It just feels like she's expressing it like all other things in her world that she expresses. So for me, she's totally iconic in that sense, and I anticipate anything, anything and everything that she does because she's just such a powerful creative force. Yeah, that's um, when we're thinking about um, what's the name? Dolores, even from the cranberries, I think another example, man, just her, well, you know, I'm saying what she brought to the table, those those songs and that creativity and not just having the body. I know we see that a lot in like hip-hop music, you know, that they have to kind of sell the body and sell the image with it versus just letting the music kind of speak for itself, man, but there are those, those, um, um, females out there who were big back in the day, uh, definitely like in 90s alternative, who were there. I love that's like my main choice of music is 90s alternative. Um, it just takes you back. It's like a time machine, man. It takes you back. It's like a easier time helps you, you know, say reflect and stuff versus what's going on now. But and we're talking about, um, people who didn't sell out, I think I think both of those those names are mentioned or some of those with and I mentioned Those people who have kind of died at the height of their success when we look at like two pock. We look at Elvis We look at There's so many names by Marley But what if and I'm it I thought it's out there with people who are into music like what if two pock Being who he was when he was into what if he fell off like what if he got into? The genres that evolved into some very garbage music what we would call them call it now But it was popular and it was the thing like what if he would have kept going and got into that Nobody can fathom that that someone that great could could fall off like that But I think we're seeing it every day with with them still being alive I look at groups like bone tugs and harmony, which I'm like a die hard bone tugs fan and those guys the what they did for hip-hop music is just phenomenal, but they're still around and they're putting out music that's kind of laughable at this point versus they've set the bar so high. So what do you think it is within you? Is it staying hungry? Is it just being true to yourself? What is it that that helps you kind of maintain that level of authenticity? Is that what it it just being authentic about whatever it is, you know? It's hard to say because I particularly feel like I'm such a kind of junior artist. I feel like I'm a student and I'm learning. So I also have that question. I don't exactly know instinctively. I kind of feel like it's like staying grounded and maintaining a sense of humility that the work is coming through you. I think that that's an important element. You know, just 48 hours ago, we saw KRS-1 here in our neighborhood venue, the wooly, and he is as real and authentic as an artist. It doesn't get more real than him. We went to see him. He's playing to 150 college kids. It's not these massive. He's not trying to sell out arenas, but he gets up there on that stage. And his skill is just like, you can compare his skills as far as an MCE, but what really hits home is when he starts speaking. He's up there and he's literally preaching. He seems like he's preaching his gospel and he's educated, he's well read, he's so, his personality comes through so clearly and he said, you know, many times throughout his speaking and his rapping, he says, you know, I don't wear a chain because I've earned your respect and that's a fact, he's up there, you know, walking the top. It's not about what he looks like or how much money he has or, you know, his cars or whatever else that pop rock, rap stars kind of use as a bar to kind of measure success and validity and stuff. His is an internal journey and it's totally palpable through the way that he manifests. It doesn't matter what he's talking about, there's this kind of realness that comes through because that's an energetic feeling of he's practicing what he's preaching. He's not just talking about it, you know? Who are some other names? I know you mentioned him, he's definitely, He was kind of founded upon that too though. You know what I'm saying? Like that's been his message from day one. He hasn't deviated and it's the message that stands the test of time. He's still preaching that same message because we leave systems. One group that does it for me because they're still around. They've been around since the early 80s. They're still around and they're still making hits. The Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh yeah, sure. A perfect embodiment of that who's just staying true to what they do. The same type of style, like I said, font mix with hip hop, mix with reggae, mix with rock, and a little bit of everything, honestly. But who are some other people that kind of stand out for you that actually have been around for a while and they're still doing it? I think Metallica is another one, those type of bands. Absolutely. I would say, you know, Erica Badu is one of those artists who is just constantly like in authenticity at all times. not trying too hard. No, totally not. And just exploring, you know, exploring, but in an authentic way, not in a commercial way, which I think is really valid. I think even artists who do really well, mainstream like Sting, you know, he's an artist that has this incredible longevity and he has so much range. And you can't really pinpoint what it is. It's not specifically his voice. It has something to do with a songwriting something, but you just feel like he kind of lives as a true artist. and he's just kind of always in that zone and he does it so profoundly, I think he really lives it. I believe George Harrison was that kind of artist. He did pass away, but I believe that he did transcend that kind of time element when a lot of his peers were kind of falling into these weird commercial traps. He was really going internal and allowing that to be the music that he was making. So I feel like there's many artists that are like that. I think Lauren Hill is like that, even though there's a lot of turmoil and turbulence there, I think that she was another incredible artist who was able to maintain this deep, deep authenticity. And very small. That's probably why she's not on the charts and doing as good as you would. Absolutely. You understand the way that we measure a successful musician now because she refused to sell out. Yes, yeah. Yeah, and that's it's symptomatic. Kara, someone was talking about it at the show, actually. And he was saying, the people who program mainstream radio know that you don't really like these songs. But that's what they're pushing now. And people will go along with it. It's a symptom where the audience and the artists are of one same consciousness. And the moment you start to question that, you're breaking their flow, you're breaking the mold, you're going against the system. Zactyl Arocha from Rajy against the machine another awesome example of someone who just, you know, commercial success or not is holding strong to their message and to their beliefs and, you know, it produces really powerful art, but really powerful art is not always what people are searching for. Sometimes people just want kind of mindless fluff and that's what they're going for and there's always going to be artists to create that and then there are the people who really want to have an experience and go deep with music and kind of transform through sound, and there are those artists as well, just the radio is usually not where you go. So, fine. So, I mean, maybe, what if I'm being a little bit too harsh? What if, you know, the same way, because it's definitely happening, but what about the music too? Like, what if there is some type of connection in these songs that are coming out now? They're like, there are some groups step, my daughter listens to that I'm like, there's nothing in it. I think it's bluff or whatever. Just like my mom looked at me with the red hot chili peppers. You know, she was in, she was into the groups I can't knock her for because all the people you named, right? She was into Zeppelin and bad company and some of the 70s rock, which I love. You know, we're talking about listening to the 90s alternative. That even goes back a little but further of just some of that beautiful music. And there was something about an actual band getting together to create the music versus one guy in a studio with laptop type deal. There's just that life to it, but it's definitely a disconnect with the generations. Maybe I am being a little bit too harsh to say that there's like all the good music died type deal because there's some still good music out there. There's still some formulas, but it's definitely the generational gap which my mother would have looked down upon my music and I look down upon maybe some of the newer stuff coming out there, but maybe there is still some sparks of creativity and stuff out there. I think it would be wrong to just label it all bad or whatever, but we definitely see a decline in it. That's gotta be there versus just a generational gap, right? Sure, I think so. And I think that for every time that there is that kind of vacancy where people are like, where's the meaning, where's the depth, how come I don't feel moved and touched by this music? The next thing that happens is this wave of artists that kind of rises to meet that challenge, right? So why did the Beatles do what they did? It's because whatever came before was not satisfying enough and then a huge wave of people heard what they were doing and said, actually, this is what we've been looking for. And the same thing can be said of Lauren Hill, whatever, 30 years later, you know, people didn't know that they needed to hear her until they heard her and they were like, oh my, this is what we've been waiting for, she has it, she's saying whatever I haven't been able to articulate whatever I didn't even know I didn't have. And I feel like that's happening now as well. There has to be this sense of dissatisfaction with the status quo to have these artists who are usually the kind of lightning rods of a culture, the artists are the ones who are first sensing like, Wait a minute. There has to be something more. And as soon as they kind of get zapped with that lightning, they disseminate that through the, you know, larger culture. And everybody goes, oh my god, that's what we have been waiting for. There's, um, so I gotta, I gotta say this, I don't know much of their music, but I've noticed this. So there is some hip hop artists who are emerging now, some younger guys like really young. Um, I think, um, little peep was one of them, um, XXX, Tentacion, these guys who are doing music, but it's hip-hop music, it's rap music, but you can tell that their parents listen to Metallica. They listen to Kurt Cobain and Nirvana and Good Charlotte, these types of emotional punk rock type music that's influencing them because they're incorporating stylistically in the emotion that's there. So they're doing these rap songs about depression, about feelings and emotions and overcoming and struggling and things like that. So a lot of people in my generation who are like into the classic where I've been to Tupac and the Bone Dogs, like as far as lyrically, a lot of the new music is so watered down and they don't even, it really wrapped too much anymore. But I will give credit to some of these new people who I do see some spark of emotion there. It's real. Even if you don't agree with it, if you don't like that you can't connect with where they're coming from. Like it is a really motion there that they're bringing something to the table. Absolutely, yeah, there's room for everything in music. It's an ever-expanding experience. It's an ever-expanding genre, art form. And so there's room for all the range of human experience there, absolutely. Someone's asking about the music, this is Ray Lopez in the chat room, he says, what is some music that you would say is a live today? And I'll let you answer that first and then I'll answer that. So what is some stuff today that really speaks to you, influences you, puts put it that way. Influences me definitely, you know, the Kirtan music scene is just totally sparking, you know, it's such a powerful undercurrent of what's going on now in music, you know, there are pockets in all communities of people practicing Kirtan and there have been artists that have been pioneering, you know, Kirtan music, not just, you know, those affiliated with the Hare Christian movement, you know, Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, who is the first who brought mantra meditation, you know, the Kirtan art form to the West. But, you know, even pioneers like Jayutal, Krsadas, you know, and the younger artists who are like totally trailblazers, like the Myapuris, who are keeping Kirtan music like alive and pop in and just like totally sparking the conscious music scene. I think that there are current artists like Nachone medicine for the people, rising Appalachia, Trevor Hall. I was going to ask you, make sure you say your name. You know MC Yogi, artists who are responding to the fact that conscious music needs to be out there and all of their music sounds so different from one another. They're definitely showing their cultural roots, their spiritual roots. And you hear it, you hear that they are the real deal. And these people are, you know, my peers in terms of age, but they're kind of just like leagues ahead in terms of how they're able to kind of influence and create this like massive community change with their art. Yeah, I mean, some of the names you mentioned, especially those those last couple, Nako, which has kind of been like a soundtrack for my awakening ever since I heard a great spirit like that song. God, you know what I'm saying? It's like it's people like him. You could tell like he's getting that information whether it's it's he's singing from a place of of desperation and as well as you feel like his ancestors are speaking through him when he sings these songs, right? These are generational songs almost just kind of revisited in a new way and then Trevor Hall like you say. And it's funny too because you go back to your faith about the music that inspires you. There's a group or a ministry of musicians that I really respect and I listen to their music all the time but it's a Christian group called Bethel Music and there's a handful of singers with on their team and every single one of them is powerful, prophetic, they bring something beautiful to the table and it really embodies for me just the whole power and spirituality behind the music, like when these artists sing, stuff happens. We talk about their vibrational frequency when they, you know, these are people whose hearts are open before God. They're really seeking of the higher things, love for humanity. They feel it. It's not because there's that Christian song list or where they just kind of formulated the worship songs. These are people like when they saying you cry. When they sing something happens in your body, it changes the atmosphere. So Bethel music for one for me is a huge one. And I like how I go back to the faith in you do too, and it's just so similar how much influence they have. And even how similar it is, you know, I'm saying the faith in general. But I look at the music and stuff and we're talking about the spirituality behind it. And there's like some teachings of Pythagoras, some of the esoteric stuff where his understanding of music and things that they would allow and wouldn't allow the music of the spheres and things which he kind of brought to the table. But understanding the power of like what we may call demonic oppression or or or depression, right? that we go through and we get in these weird states of funk. We can listen to music, especially somebody like the people I mentioned or the people you mentioned, they have the strong spiritual connection, they're intuitive with their music, their spiritual people, then it comes out, their healers in the physical realm, so therefore the healing power comes through their music, those type of people, when they play music or tap in, those spirits of depression, those heavy burdensome, They can't exist in that same realm. Pythagoras talked about experiences like this. In the Bible, it has a King David talking about these evil spirits that torment its Saul, King Saul. But when he began to play the harp and sing, the evil spirits would leave, like they couldn't be around and it would bring him peace. Are there any similar stories like that in the Bogdovagita where it talks about just the power of music and vibration and stuff in there? I know there's a little bit of everything within the study, but there's anything that your mind goes to, like, straight to it when it talks about making you feel good or lifting the countenance and things. Yeah. Well, I wanted to speak to that first point that you said that, you know, these people, you know, when you're feeling a certain way or you have this depression, all of a sudden you hear these people and their music and it totally like kind of uplifts you and it kind of counteracts that darkness and I think that that is not just the positivity of their music, because so much of these artists that we name their music also speaks about their struggles. I think that the power of vulnerability is that, you know, I'm very influenced by like the writing of Renee Brown, you know, Daring Greatly where she talks about being vulnerable automatically sheds light. So being depressed is one thing, but coming out and saying, you know, I have these feelings of sadness. I'm experiencing this darkness and talking about that, you know, with trusted people and community, that has its own transformative power because you're shedding light on something and then necessarily where there's light, there is no darkness. So certainly the Gita, you know, testifies to that, you know, Christian tells Arjuna on the battlefield that he is the original sound of Om and that before matter existed, there was consciousness through sound. So if that is true, then it means that all power of upliftment is possible through sound. And so for us, worship of the divine happens through sound. And whenever there is that, that is absolute purity, absolute beauty, absolute love. It is totally possible to counteract darkness with sound. And it's about consciousness, the sounds that you make are going to be a reflection whatever consciousness you hold within. So for those people who are very developed in their spiritual practice, who are authentic, even though they may be struggling and experiencing contradiction and hopelessness, you necessarily that kind of purity flows through them and they become an instrument of life. That's good. That's wisdom right there. That's, you know what? That's when I started, um, that's when my podcast started taking off my podcast and my music and everything was when like it's always been spiritual. I've always discussed spiritual topics, but when I was okay with my flaws and you know, K with contradictions or trying to be right about everything or whatever and just embrace to I was as a person to talk about the things that don't make sense. There's people who listen to this episode and they listen to one, you know, that I did a year ago, they're going to hear contradictions. Some people call me on it and they hold it over my head, but it's about being authentic and being looked. I don't know everything. I'm still learning. And so for you to come to me and think that I have it all figured out you're totally wrong and I'm okay with it. The religion that I deal with a lot of people from Christianity are coming out of it. We were in a realm of we had to have everything figured out and we had to have an answer for everything and that's just not the case. We can pretend like we do and if we don't then it's like a chink in the armor. So moving to a place where you can be okay with your insecurities, your doubt and say you You know, a lot of this stuff sounds the same, it looks the same, but there's different ways of interpretation and I agree with both. There's contradictions and I agree with both. Part of me is over here. Part of me is over here. That's okay. It's not. I don't have to choose like, so for you to be like, I'm forcing you to choose what side. You know what? There's beauty in all of it. I embrace all of it and there's reasons people believe this and believe that about religion or their faith or whatever the case is, but to really walk in a place of authenticity. Like you said, I'm not having it all figured out or not being this huge spiritual person. But so you know what? I'm one with my, with my folly. I'm one with the things that I love about me, but also with the things that I don't like. And they're there to teach me. I don't have to rebuke them. I don't have to cast them down at all times. But they're here to teach me that that's what I've seen people walk in. And that right there is what's most attractive to people that's, that's, that's envious to to see someone okay with their flaws and you can't hold nothing against them. Did you see the movie Eight Mile with Eminem? Yeah, of course. And Eminem like embraces his faults and the things that what they were gonna use against them that he was a white rapper that his girl left him. He lived in a trailer and all of these bad things, he struggled and financially and he embraced it. Yeah, that's me. And he took everything away from him and they had no ammunition. And they were talking about Lauren Hill. I know you've seen the acoustic CD she put out where she talked about her power and when she became more enlightened or spiritual is when she just lived in the light. And in all these traditions talk about living in the light so that you know my flaws. I'm not hiding anything from you. I'm open. So I take everything, all your arts and all the way from you. I'm so powerful, man. Yeah, not just that. It's also that's where some of the most powerful art lives because in trying to understand your flaws and my darkness, my shadow side, all of those things, you need tools more than just the rational mind to get it. You need spiritual tools and spirituality and creativity are interlinked necessarily because we come from the great creator. I'm very influenced by the work of Julia Cameron who wrote the artist's way and she said that your bridge to God is your creativity, is your gift because God is inherently creative. That's where we all came from. That's beautiful. So, you know, to explore the darkness, using your creativity to see that beauty can come from that place. That you'll always be walking side by side with your shadow and that that shadow is healthy. That shadow is what's gonna keep you seeking. It's one, you know, who would be self-realizing enough to just say, you know what I'm done. That would be the end of their self-realization. It's always a journey. It's always seeking, it's always being open to learn and maintaining what you were kind of alluding to, which is that beginners mind, that such an essential part of so many faiths, specifically the Buddhist faith and mindfulness, beginners mind means you're always learning. This is always new, you always approach with curiosity, you always produce this kind of feeling of, I don't know, let's see, let's see what happens. And I think that that humility is the key, not just the spiritual advancement, but also to kind of longevity as a creative, because it means you're willing to be shown, you're open to learning. That's a big part of what I embrace and it's also the big question about being intuitive and leaning on the spiritual path of discernment as well because I get a lot of people who come to me and they want healing their face and trials and tribulation that they need help with. They need somebody to talk to. They want someone to lift that burden, right? And so it's the whole thing about learning which demons we rebuke off of people or help people kind of rid them of and which demons are here to help us to learn. There's things that we must go through to build character and we learn from the darkness like when I was going through so many trials and tribulations that were literally like dark, dealing with dark entities, literally, when I was going through it, like, I would have gave anything to get out of it. But now on this side, like, I'm thankful that God, we'll say God, the supreme presence, sent that into my life for a reason. And I'm thankful because I wouldn't be the person that I am today. I wouldn't have the compassion for those who are going through those type of things, you know what I'm saying? So it's about learning which demons we learn from in our own lives, but also on the road of recover. We help another people and what's ones? Do we rebuke? So that's a that's a that's a big part of it. Do you have any wisdom in that? Do you can you relate with that at all? Definitely. I mean, I'm a therapist by profession. I'm a marriage and family therapist. And so definitely I experience what it's like to sit in full kind of awareness of someone else's deep, deep struggle and a lot of times the answers. Well, all the time the answers are within them and a lot of times what it takes is just for you to trust in that divine power within them that God will reveal the path in perfect timing. You know, God's time is absolute. We're mortal humans and so we think in times of in terms of the linear, you know, we're like constricted by time, constricted by space. And once you kind of break out of that mold and you understand that, you know, experiences are absolute, the time factor doesn't feel like such a stress or any more. We're always in a rush. We need to be achieving and that's a very kind of Western culture pressure, high achievement, success, you know, perfect mental health, shame of negative emotions and negative experiences, that kind of thing. So when you kind see okay I'm always in process and perhaps my way of sharing healing is to just kind of sit with someone as they kind of experience the struggle and walk next to them not do the walking for them so to speak. It's such a powerful agent of changing. You really see the miracles that people can kind of start to realize in their own lives when they take the time and they allow themselves to open up authentically. Definitely that's something that I've been fortunate enough to witness. Awesome. Yeah. There's been some questions here in the chat that people asking about the 432 Hertz frequency. Are you familiar with that? Do you use it or have you tried it or anything like that? It's not anything specific that I've experimented with. I've read a little bit about it here and there, but it's not something I have much experience with. Cool, cool. But there is something like of playing the different pitches that make you feel a certain type of way. Obviously, there's notes that you can play just on the piano that are going to make you feel more dark, I mean, or really high up notes as well, that will also make you this really eerie feeling, like if we're looking at maybe the score of a horror movie or something like that, but it's somewhere in between in the balance or whatever, there's notes that can be played, there are frequencies during like meditation, I do a lot of stuff, what this listen into different frequencies or what do you call it on like by narrow beats and stuff like that that are that are pitched to a certain frequency to help you attain something or feeling any motion and stuff and I've actually felt that as well like I've listened to like popular bands you can find them online there's like they'll take popular songs and then change the pitch to the 432 concert pitch, and you can feel it. It literally feels different, even if it's a depressing song lyrically, it feels more brighter and it feels like it brings something to the table. So that's really cool as far as getting into the hurts and the frequencies and stuff like that. You have experience in that as well during the meditation, or even the mantras that are raised to a certain pitch in things as well. Definitely you can feel you know if we were traveling actually with a with a bus tour and Some of the information that we were sharing is how you know your body is made up almost entirely of water and When you play certain sound vibrations under a petri dish full of water You can literally see different forms start to manifest in the water And so what that goes to prove is that sound is not disconnected from what it manifests physically and then imagine what that can do to your mind to your brain and you know, so many subtle layers to that. So definitely, you know, I've done meditations and different visualizations and mantra practices where you kind of move sound, starting at your kind of root chakra all the way through the top of your crown chakra and see how sound affects each different zone of your body and start kind of channeling that energy consciously and seeing that, yeah, the different sound vibrations absolutely influenced the way that you feel in your body, what to speak of the way that you feel in your mind. there's songs that can move you in a different language. Before you even know what the lyrics mean, and it has to do with vocal tone, it has to do with the frequency of the music, has to do with chord arrangements and progression. There's so much there, you know, in the Indian classical system of music, they have the science of Raghav, which is literally kind of an emotional science in the sense that they have certain scales that they use for different times in the day, and those different times of the day are also designed to kind of arouse different emotions, different activities, different pastimes, different stories that take place at that time. And they're arranged like really scientifically. There's been, you know, generations of musicians who are dedicated specifically to learning and teaching how these different sound vibrations and different pitches, frequencies, you know, arrangements can have a huge impact on how you feel. I like it because it's kind of, I like anything like that when you're combining the science with the spirituality, that stuff that we've believed for years is now being backed by science versus where scientists use to refute your belief system and some of the Wuhu stuff, this actually proving it. There's a science behind it and all of this stuff, man, I think it's so beautiful. Hey, thanks for coming on hanging out with me. You wanna tell people where they can pick up your new album and check out definitely your new song with MC Yogi, another lifetime, and as well, the song Fire, which's the video for that's incredible. So go and plug your needs to stuff where people can check out your music. Sure, so you can pick up my CD on iTunes. I'm also on Spotify. You can find me on Pandora. If you wanna follow me, you can visit my website, www.danyamusic.com. Danya spelled D-H-A-N-Y-A, and you can follow me on Facebook. I'm also on Twitter and I'm also on Instagram. You can follow me while I travel and I post clips of some of our live stuff, as well as what I've been doing in the studio and kind of behind the scenes. I'm super excited to connect with people. I enjoy getting feedback. And I'm also open to booking the rest of this year. So if you know anybody, yoga studio owners, musical festival organizers who are looking to connect, we still have some time open, especially in the fall. and yeah, I would love to come and share music. Cool, where are you located at? What are part of the country? I'm based in Florida. Florida, we're at in Florida. In Gainesville, it's like two hours north of Orlando. Okay, I'm in Mobile. I've got friends right there in Orlando too. So I've got, I've actually have a friend of mine who owns a yoga studio over this way. So that's cool that you're actually doing a studio. So I'll see what I can work out. That'd be awesome. That would be great. I actually came through Mobile, I want to say, end of last year, we did a little Southeast tour with the Myapuris, so we're definitely familiar with the Southeast and we love playing around this area. Awesome. Well, hey, I appreciate you coming on, hanging out with me. It's been a blessing. Thank you so much. We have to do it again soon. Yeah, thank you. Thanks so much. It's been awesome. I really appreciate it. All right, thank you. Daniel, God bless. You too. Daniel, ladies and gentlemen. enjoyed the interview, great interview, great podcast, great music. She has really good music. That song with her and M.C. Yogi is awesome and speaking of those names like M.C. Yogi actually has a song with Trevor Hall as well. So make sure you check out those names we mentioned. People are like saying that they're listening in the chat room and they're writing down these names as we share them. So make sure you go back and do your homework. This is the stuff that I didn't influence as me, the stuff that I'm into. Trevor Hall is a big one, Bethel Music, MC Yogi's Dope, Nacho Medicine for the people in Danya. Danya, music.com, D-H-A-N-Y-A. Danya, music.com. Check her out, all that good stuff. Hey, thank you guys for hanging out with me today. Again, this is two podcasts back the back. Lots of good stuff happening. Closing in on 100 episodes, guys. Thank you for all the support. I've come a long way within the last six months ever since I was released from my job and decided to try to do this full time. I asked for your help. You guys have responded and are responding with a loud gong. Thank you guys for being in my corner. Thank Thank you guys for supporting me and enabling me to do what I do. You guys get some type of edification out of this. You enjoy the conversations. I don't think it's so much me. I mean, there's a lot of people who love me. They want me to do more solo episodes and they love this personal time that we spend at the end of the episodes. But then there's other people who really enjoy the eclectic type of guests that we get on from every walk and every background. in Adanya, it was hard, it's a mirror image of my faith of what I believe in. It's kind of evolved into, from a Christian perspective, which is the really crazy thing. I've had some people reach out to me and tell me I should look into that faith or whatever, but it sounds like a lot of things I talk about, but essentially, I think we're all talking about the same thing anyway, so whether you want to put a name on it or want to classify as a sect or religion of people that believe a certain type of thing. That's not even where the power is. I think that all religion is talking about the same thing deep down at the core, especially if we're talking about spirituality and understanding and interpreting the spirit realm, it just depends on which lens or which standpoint of view that you're standing at, looking at the same object. We're all looking at the same thing, but standing from a different perspective, we're seeing what appears to be something a little bit different. So I find joy in that, I find joy, I come out of the Christian faith that just was like find out what makes you different in what sets you apart from all the other people because you are different, which there's truth in that man, there's stuff that we are different about, you know what I'm saying, there's stuff that does set us apart, but I find so much beauty now, and not in debating people of why I'm different, but I just enjoy the conversations and why we're the same. There's this inward desire to know God, to know the divine, to want to know why we're here, and you see all these people, regardless of race or creed, those people who are really true seekers at heart, and they're seeking for the truth, and they just so happen to be within another religion, or within another faith or whatever the cases, but you see them hungry for the same things that you are like that's that's the beginning of spiritual awakening when you can see that when you can acknowledge God in everyone and God moving through everyone it's so beautiful and I'm telling you that is like you want to have a spiritual awakening and spiritual experience start there start with judging people by the fruit don't judge them by the religious book they have judge them by their fruit the works that they're producing the you know the what's coming out of them, what they're sharing with people, you know who the cool people hang out with are, like, who are the cool people, the people that make you feel better, the people who, who their religion is tangible, it's not religion because there is their father's religion, it's that they have a belief system that transcends religious thought or religious dogma, like those are the cool people that I really enjoy hanging out with and learning from. And so Jesus tells you to judge people, he says that, you know what I'm saying, judge people buy their fruit. A good tree does not bear bad fruit. A bad tree is not going to bear good fruit. We have an apple tree in the backyard. It's not going to give you an orange. That apple tree is going to be expected to produce apples, the orange tree, give you oranges and so forth and so on. So all you're going to do is hang with someone long enough to really partake of that fruit and see what they're about. See if they're religion or their face. See if it has substance to it. And not just the belief systems, not even how deep it is. I'm telling you, there's so many Christians out there who can get so deep, so many Hindus, Muslims who can get deep, there's deep thinkers and all of these things. But it's about what's tangible. Like, what do you have that I can apply to my life for me to help me be a better father, help me be a better husband, help me to be a better friend. You know what I'm saying? Like, those are the things that I admire in a spiritual path that's tangible that we can apply to our lives. And then it steps out even further. Like, that's just about being a good person, I think that most religions of some sect kind of deal with that, that's something that we all kind of want to do, but then it gets into manifestation and spirituality and connecting and stuff like that. And most of it is saying the same thing. So do all religions point the God, do all paths lead to God. So, Trusic, are you saying that all, you know, this is a big wheel and all the spokes lead to the center, which is God. I don't know. I haven't practiced all religions, so I can't tell you that. All I know is what is working for me, what I've experienced, what I've encountered, the divine through. And I've been involved in a lot of different sects, I've been involved in a lot of different, you can call cults, you know what I'm saying, they're different forms of spiritual practice and spirituality. Even within the Christian church is full of cults and cult leaders. So I've been involved with a lot of them. And I'm just simply like she was talking about being open with the flaws, being open with the things that the contradictions. So for you to I know there's so many like cliche things that uh you know church people say about the contradictions and how they can be explained and stuff like that. And you have to get to the bottom of it. You know what I'm saying to prove yourself right. And hey, your eternal salvation rides upon it. So that could be kind of scary. All right, like if you're wrong about eternity. Yeah, you don't want to be wrong about that. We talk about that a lot. That's an inward, that's an inward plight. You know, we have to bring to the table. So, look, hey, I think you guys were hanging out with me. Thank you for supporting my work via Patreon. Like I said, so much new stuff there. The school of the mystics Thursday night, you want to join that head on over to Patreon even if you're gonna give a dollar like you'll be you'll get access that way it's gonna be good I'm excited about this week we've been I've been wanting to kind of start something or do a teaching or a course or whatever I just my stuff that I'm working on personally isn't done yet I've got some stuff I'm gonna I'm gonna bring to the table but we're gonna do this other course by Chris Valotton called a basic prophetic training for prophetic ministry and it's about hearing the voice of God speak to us in our own lives and speak to us and through us as well. So learning how to keen in on that voice Thursday night, seven p.m. I'm going to I'm going to record those. So those of you who miss it, you'll be able to go back and listen. So we're going to do that. Make sure you join right in at seven central because of course, those are going to be short. And so they'll be easy to run through. So I'm just trying to read through somebody's comments here at the end. And Chris Barr says that 100th episode is going to be dope, son. That's what's up, bro. I might already be at 100. Honestly, I'm sitting on a handful of episodes that aren't published yet. Let's see. Lane's worldview says, you are a friend for the friendless, those stuck out in the minds in the midst of family and people with little understanding, like you say, man, There is a lot of us out here with no one to talk to about these things. Yeah, man. Yep, it's about being open for the conversation, whether it's not about being right either. It's just about being, right? Just understanding your place in society, your place in this world. And the things that you're into, I think it's okay to seek after, man. I think if some things are calling you and even if I don't agree with it, like we talked about on the interview before this one, man, you have to follow the voice of the Holy Spirit for yourself. You got to follow your revelation of God, like I can, I can, you can learn from me, you can glean from me, I can be your teacher, but you have to let the Holy Spirit teach you and guide you. It's like you can just learn and just take it and apply it to your life. If you're not doing that, then you're messing up and you totally missed it. So, but if you're inspired by the music, you're inspired by the podcast and you're applying it to your life and you're having your own encounters, you're doing it right, man. it up. So with that, again, thank you. I'm going to say God bless and Shalom. I love each and every one of you guys. Stay tuned. More stuff. Share this episode. If you enjoyed it, if you want to support the show, you can go to patreon.com backslash true secret. 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Thank you guys for doing so. It means the world to me. With that, peace and shalom. God bless, we'll catch you on the next one, peace. So much more than mine Well that does it for this episode folks To hear more episodes of The Truth, Think A Podcast Head over to truththinka.com And if you're wanting to support the show And get rewards, go to our Patreon page At patreon.com Forward slash, Truth Think A

