How To See UFO's | Bob Oliver | TruthSeekah Podcast
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uh being able to see things that peer
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that's near and dear to my heart is we
do
our um retreats we have these retreats
that we've been doing quarterly the
reset refresh and renew retreats
and part of those retreats i love is the
stargazing to go out and participate in
the ce5
initiative and uh that that has been a
very
uh beautiful part of the events and uh
at the end of all the
the beautiful spiritual work that we do
in the meditation and
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that we do on those retreats at the end
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to do ce5 contact and so
one of the things that i'm i'm hoping
for i'm believing for and i'll put it
out there for those of you who want to
sow into this
and uh and believe in it we are looking
for
a pair of night vision goggles
generation three military grade
they're about three thousand dollars and
so um i've done a gofundme but i haven't
really promoted it i think the link is
in the description no matter where
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give to that that will take them to the
next level and we're going to hear some
stories and some experiences
with the night vision goggles and so if
anybody has any connections an old pair
around
that you want to sell for cheap message
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today
guest is my friend bob oliver bob
welcome to the true secret podcast man
how are you
i'm fine thank you good to be here i've
had an opportunity to look at some of
your
past uh video
interviews and i want to compliment you
uh i find your technique to be the best
thank you thank you i learned from the
best uh
you know listen in the years of coast to
coast am and really love the way
george nori approaches interviews and
lets the person tell their story and
that really
that really has shaped my my interview
process but i think the deeper thing is
really being engaged in the content like
i really want to pick your
brain today bob i know we had a short
chance to talk and i
asked you questions and we started going
deep but it's like you know what even in
that i'm like let's hold back because
getting that on air for the first time
really going deep on these subjects
really plays a huge part in having a
good conversation
absolutely you give people plenty of
time to talk you don't interrupt
again i compliment you on your style
thank you bob
um so you were um
ed grimsley's right-hand man essentially
you did a lot of
the field work with him and taking and
taking groups of people out for ce5
initiative not really ce5 because you
guys actually had the
equipment you guys had the night vision
goggles and we'll go out into the fields
and see things beyond your wildest
dreams with these night vision goggles
right
absolutely i go back with ed grimsley
to 2007. so
i had him in my life for just about 10
years
he's passed away now but the work that
he did he did from the heart and from
the soul
yeah he uh it was a very interesting
experience that to get that close to
another human being and and have the
opportunity to see how they
how they met the world ed was a
incredible guy
i was privileged to be able to to have
him on the podcast as well years ago and
i had a great talk and
and you can hear it in the interview
just picking his brain wanting to know
and
wanting to have my own experiences and
encounters and uh
and and ed really made that that uh uh
the night vision goggle stuff
very popular there's a lot of people
doing it but what ed was doing the
actual
you know it made it made the spiritual
far out stuff it kind of brought it into
our reality if that's the route that you
want to take i know there's different
takes and what is this stuff and we're
going to get into it i'm going to ask
you your opinion give your mind
and go deep but definitely ed's work
opened up
doors for a lot of people to be where
they are now and to ask those deeper
questions to
and you heard on that that podcast too
people were calling in
people who honored ed's work and ed
opened up the door for them to get a
pair of night vision goggles and take
people out on expeditions and
and all of that stuff so definitely uh
ed was beloved and just a beautiful soul
with his work that
i feel like i'm carrying on to it to a
degree as well and i know you are
um so i guess you know if you want to
give like the nuts and bolts like
just the the genesis of how you maybe
met ed or how you got into ufology
and just kind of give a quick background
we'll start there before we get even
deeper with this stuff
very good place to start so um ed
grimsley had
experience from his childhood and
ed was a member of the eisenhower family
so mamie eisenhower the president's wife
was related to the grimsley side of the
family
and was first cousins with ed's uh
grandfather so much later in life the
grandfather confided to ed
after after the eisenhower's had passed
away
that we actually did have treaties with
the with the aliens
and that the government knew all all
about it
uh so backing back to ed's childhood
um he had i guess three
main uh opportunities to know that there
was more going on
uh than than we know
as individuals so he saw
two flying discs with his father when he
was
probably around 14 or so
and makes an interesting story
but obviously then he knew that there
was more going on
that we weren't being told about then
when he was 16
he was with seven families out in the uh
woods hunting and late one
night around 9 30 10 they
he woke up to see that there was a
battle which he described
going on above his head so he woke up
everybody so they all sought seven
families
people but ed stayed up all night long
everybody else just went back to bed
they knew that there wasn't much more
they could do they saw it
they were tired we're going to sleep now
but out of out of that experience for
ed he really
in staying up the whole night came up
with a lot of ideas that he
questioned and wanted answers for so
he had to wait until 1996
when he got his first pair of night
vision goggles
one outside a few minutes later and
within
10-15 minutes he found out that
uh he can
be allowed to cuss a little bit on this
sure
well ed found out that he was one of the
holy [Â __Â ]
club because when you see this with the
night vision
at least eight out of ten people go holy
[Â __Â ]
yeah and so that's just how it
is and you know how can you get around
that when you're talking on the radio
and you're not allowed to say that
yeah so uh
here's the technique and how it works
ideally you want to have five pair of
night vision goggles five pair allows
you to make a conning tower
in a sense so that everybody's looking
at a portion of the sky
and in that way we're actually covering
a
a piece of space that is the size of the
canopy of space above
everyone's head so we're able to look in
all directions at once
and in using that technique we actually
see an average of 75 to 100
anomalies in an hour
the best time is right after dark
because the anomalies that we are
looking at
are being shined on by the sun at the
angle the sun is below the horizon
and so if this is the craft and the
sun's hitting it it's like a spotlight
on the craft as it's going past you
and you can easily spot it
about uh one out of ten times when we go
out using that
protocol we'll see something down low
so instead of it being out 100 to 300
miles or we can still see it it'll be
down
who knows maybe 100 yards 100 feet
a quarter of a mile but we see the
actual physical
shape of the vehicle
these craft don't normally make noise
they're there one instant they're gone
another there's another phenomena
in looking at these craft you can think
talk to them so oftentimes
we're able to say show me that you know
i'm here
for example or you can ask the craft to
brighten up
so that you know it knows you're there
and this phenomena takes place so you
have a one-on-one experience
that you know you're at least
communicating mentally
if we even know that that's the right
term to call it but we are communicating
telepathically yeah telepathically
uh so that a quick question here while
we're talking about it uh someone wants
to know what is the model or brand of
night vision goggles because
that's pretty uh specific as well you
said you can see more
with a certain model right
right so the model that ed
first found was a military grade called
a p
v s seven
third generation and
when you're shopping for these if you're
shopping with somebody who knows
what they're doing there are different
sort
goggles so uh you want to sort
one goggle which means that the the
tolerances
of the electronic pieces in the goggles
are of a higher quality so when they
assemble these
sometimes they come out of the assembly
better than another pair of goggles so
the first thing to do is uh
find somebody who's got 10 pair of
goggles that are for sale
and have him check that out he's going
to look through it and see what kind of
imaging it has and he's going to say
yeah this is a short one it's 200
more and you get the best
pair of goggles that way they run about
3 500
general in the marketplace and what ed
would do
is he made friends with a lot of the
distributors
and he started selling the goggles and
from ed you could get them for about 3
000.
that was pretty much down near the cost
end of it i think
ed was more about getting the word and
the message out he wasn't in it for the
money
anybody who does this finds out that
they lose
a lot of money trying to do this it's an
expensive hobby
you know it's a good hobby but it's not
a money maker yeah
yeah um and let's let's go back to what
you just said
um about you know when we're stargazing
we're trying to focus
almost out of the atmosphere out of the
beyond the earth's atmosphere you can
see
what may look like little pieces of rice
maybe moving
and then they stop and then they turn
around and then they do all types of
aerial
maneuvers but you say as you're focusing
way out there
something which i've had this experience
as well as i'm focusing out
something right above the tree lines
move
and what they look like bob i've seen
things that look like stingrays
flying uh that you can see through
and i've seen videos where people have
captured a lot of this on video these
clear stingrays that are flying through
the sky and
look uh things that look like balloons
or orbs that you can see through
as you're focusing way out then boom
there's one right above your head
there's a lot of anomalies as you say
that go on when you're kind of
engaging and training your eyes to kind
of see out there what are some of the
the things that you've seen as you're
focusing out and then some of these
things are right above the tree line
like you talk about
well uh first like i i say we all have a
varied number of experiences
and they're all different yeah so that's
one that i have not
had i have not seen
necessarily what you've seen and i use
the analogy of tide pool watching
so if you go to the beach and you look
in a tide pool
somebody's going to say what are we
doing this is a waste of time and
someone else says oh no no there's
there's living stuff in there someone
else says you're crazy
and someone else says well no i see a
blue fish
and someone else says you're crazy
that's not a blue fish that's you must
be colorblind that's a green fish
well lo and behold there's a green fish
and a blue fish and they're in two
different spots
and one person sees one and another sees
the other and that's why
when we go to court we're kind of
screwed when we go to court
aren't we because eyewitness testimony
is the worst
so we we were up against this
issue of one p person seeing something
and somebody else saying you're crazy
yeah
but with the night vision goggles you
can duplicate a lot of these experiences
when you want to
the night vision goggles you go out
every clear night
and you look up and the first thing you
do when you're looking out into space is
you go
my god i had no idea there's so many
stars
because the night vision takes the
ambient light of the stars
magnifies it and now you're looking at
something that you've never seen in that
way
before that's awesome that's the
beginning of the experience and then you
start
seeing things move and then maybe
something sees you
watching it it stops and you go wait a
minute i saw you moving
can you brighten up for me goes
and it just becomes a whole different
reality you know and it's a reality that
you don't
back away from easily yeah
um man so many places to go just uh
you know i've i've went outside on my
front porch and and spent you know spent
a lot of time stargazing
and i look up with the naked eye and i
don't see anything
and then uh i grab with just a pair of
binoculars
and look up through the binoculars and
as soon as i look up i see that little
piece of rice
moving pulling away you can't see it but
when you
you know when you have the binoculars
even with that you can see so much more
so i can't wait to be able to you know
use a pair of night vision goggles
to do this well you know even with night
vision goggles
what i've learned is most people get
bored oh i'm sorry i accidentally muted
you
bob mata uh unmute yourself
very easy okay
so um
i kind of lost my train of thought there
which i do at my
age occasionally but uh
ed was ed was a great teacher again um
he had from childhood this ability
knowing for certain that there were
craft out there
and constantly looking for them and
having to deal with people who thought
he was crazy
having the opportunity at least to talk
with his father who said
look uh ed don't tell people what you
saw they're just gonna
think you're crazy and you know it's
gonna create some rift in your
your ability to interact with people and
it did but he was getting over that
in his last 10 years he uh he was kind
of a guy that didn't put up with
a lot if he felt that he was totally in
the right
but he was also a guy who had uncovered
a lot about what's going on um
i'll tell you a quick story we we ed and
i traveled
around the country quite a bit went on
some uh
ship cruises and uh
um met tremendous
amount of people i mean every night ed
wanted to try to get 50 people to look
through those night vision goggles
so once people have looked it awakens
them
up and we went to roswell
was one of the places that we went
and um interesting experiences wherever
we go
i would always ask the guys in the car
if we could pull over
about every couple hours and i'd go
outside with the night vision and look
up and sure enough i'd find craft
so what this led me to discover
i spoke with one person who i can't even
remember who it was who estimated that
there's 20 million
craft coming and going from the planet
at any given time
and i find that to be a reasonable
figure when you consider
in an hour's time seeing in the in the
arena of a hundred uh
anomalies per hour above our heads
wherever we go
so um in the roswell incident
i was by that time also aware that one
out of
eight people in 2008
nine one out of eight people
had seen a ufo but in roswell
i talked to 50 people and nobody had
seen a ufo
which reminds me of men in black
and the little thing they'd hold up and
go
and everybody would forget what they had
seen
i've never had that personal experience
but it was an anomaly that
nobody that i spoke with in roswell had
seen ufos
we went to the newspaper there in
roswell it had the
same newspaper that had covered the
story back when it had happened
of the landing in roswell or the crash
in roswell and the
two people that were running the
newspaper that we spoke with
one of them lived about 80 miles out of
the area and converse
traveled to work daily and the other one
was the editor and both people
both of them had seen what we see when
we look into the night sky and say yes
we've seen a ufo
but nobody else that we came across i
must have interviewed
good 75 people so that's uh
anywhere else on the planet everybody
sees them but nobody in roswell
on the way out of roswell uh
we traveled at night we went through a
valley which i don't know if i could
ever find it again but
going through this valley i saw a little
light bulb shining from a shack about
maybe 300 yards off the road
and i thought well gee that's the only
we haven't seen any
ranches or anything and there's this
little ranch house or shack
with a light bulb on and so i took the
night vision goggles out and looked over
there
and beyond the shack you could see the
mountain range
and the mountain range was strobe
lighting
so you couldn't see that with the naked
eye but it was happening
and you could see it with the night
vision that picks up
much more in fact the way the night
vision works
it covers a broad frequency
much broader than the naked eye so if
the naked eye sees things in this
frequency
everything above and below that
frequency
is invisible and so
being that it's invisible you can't see
it
unless you have the night vision goggles
that opens up
a wider frequency when you're seeing
something you're seeing the reflection
of the light
in a different frequency that's then
brought down into the frequency
that you can see and now you have
imagery
of what you saw in this frequency
which you didn't see in that frequency
now you can see it
yeah i mean and so that um experience
that but that experience simply from
seeing a light bulb out in the middle of
nowhere
and questioning it reminds me of what i
often say and that is question
everything yeah
um bob we're getting a little bit of
interference when i talk can you turn me
down on your speakers
as as as low as you can but still be
able to hear me
and hopefully that'll that'll cut it out
a little bit
but no i mean being able to see
all of that stuff with with the night
vision goggles i'm intrigued because
i've seen so much without them
i've seen so much with just the naked
eye so being able to
use night vision goggles and go out i'm
just
i can't wait to be able to be able to
use them
it's amazing you want to have like i
said uh you want to have
four or five people minimum with you and
that makes the experience
really good but with one pair
if you can imagine you're you're looking
at
kind of a cone going up into the sky
so this is what you're viewing and
and you're essentially looking at one
one fifth of the sky so the other four
fifths of the sky if stuff is moving
around there you're not going to see it
but with five pair what we do we use a
little laser light
and if we're looking and we see
something coming from our direction
i see one then we take the laser light
shine up
and then the next pair of goggles can
follow the laser beam right up to the
craft so
we have five pair of eyes on the same
thing within
within a second yeah and that makes it
pretty exciting
can you uh for those who who haven't
heard this story
uh can you can you share like what i
feel like was maybe
ed's big moment of uh going to the the
ufo conference and
uh seeing george nori what what he did
there for those who haven't heard that
story
yeah well um george nori
and i met ed
up in santa clara at one of the ufo
conferences
and um george thought ed was crazy
well everybody in the room thought that
was crazy
and here's here's what that moment
looked like
ed stands up and says i can show you
ufos
every clear night with these night
vision goggles you can see them
and everybody in the room goes wow
that's amazing
and then it got quiet and you heard
people say i think that guy is crazy
i mean you know even within your a group
of your peers your experiences
ed and i went to a
a mufon conference in which george
knapp was heading the the
the mufon meeting and i stood up and i
said
to the panel that he was heading i said
now that you know
that you can see ufos every night with
night vision goggles how is that going
to change your reporting practices on
all of these sightings you're getting
and this was you know like over a year
and a half that we were into
getting the word out and george knapp
goes
wait a minute what are you saying
are you saying you can see ufos with
night vision goggles
and uh jaime massan stands up and says
well george we see him with the naked
eye every day in mexico
and so it takes you kind of back to what
i was saying about tide pool watching
we need to be all on the same page and
the
first page to be on is that we're not
crazy
we're just trying to get the word out
and and when he did that did uh george
nori actually he went up to the rooftop
and was able to see some right
right all right you were asking about
george norris
so um well this gets into a little bit
longer story to get to george murray
because how
how do we get george nori to actually go
and look is the question
and so i started calling into the
uh oh boy do we have how much time do we
have
we got as much as we need okay
then we got to back up because when when
ed came to monterey here's the
experience that i had
we're dealing in about a year and a half
period to get to george nori
so george nori was at the meeting that i
was at
where ed stood up and said you can see
ufos with night vision goggles
and everybody in the room thought he was
crazy so i'm sure that goes
to uh to um george nori also
but about three months later i contacted
ed ed came to monterey
and within 15 minutes i was one of the
holy [Â __Â ]
go outside and you look up into the
night sky and it's like this i go
wow you can see all those stars this is
amazing ed
and then i kind of drift down and i'm
looking at a tree
about 100 yards ago ray and i go ed you
can see a moth in that tree
and ed goes bob you're supposed to be
looking for ufos oh right
okay okay so now i'm looking up at the
sky and i go ed i think i saw one
and ed goes no bob that was a duck
oh okay
holy [Â __Â ] ed says
yeah bob you just saw one and i did
so the first craft that i saw was down
low where you could make out the
physical shape of it
and we call it a delta so it looks
delta shaped it has to i thought it had
two little tails
on the back end of the delta shape
but it's going through the sky in a
straight line
then it makes a 30 degree angular cut
like that
and when i say a 30 degree
angular cut i mean like that
so it's not snaking around like a plane
that's going real fast
it's doing a physics that we've never
heard of because it's not taught in the
schools that we go to
and i saw
i think it was four formations
of two so they're coming across the sky
like this
and then a formation of four in perfect
formation but all doing the exact same
maneuver at the exact same time
four separate craft
so you get hooked
and poor ed i kept him outside the
entire night we didn't go to bed until
the sun
came up nearly killed him but he didn't
get
a candy store right yes
exactly so um
for some people it works that way i i
got bored quite quickly i mean you go
out one night you might see something
low and it looks like it's the
millennium
falcon well you know i can't get on it
and that nobody's inviting invited me to
to go aboard yet that i'm aware of
because maybe there's a lot more going
on that we haven't even covered yet
right
so um i don't know where
where where to go exactly from there so
we were talking about george nori
so i st i got ed to come on my radio
show i did a program called the quantum
leap like you're doing
and uh well not like you're doing just a
radio show i
really respect what you're doing it's
quite a bit different
but i started that in 2000 i had ed on
the show in 2007 and here's where we get
into them
i think that's an important subject for
everybody and that's the deep state
you know what is the deep state and what
is it capable of doing
so when i had ed on my program the very
first night i think we were missing a
minute and 37 seconds of uh of audio
out of the program and when i went back
and reconstructed what was missing
ed used to talk about something called
citizens
alliance group the governor
government does not want us thinking
that way does not want citizens to be
aligned
citizens alliance group where we would
be able to talk with one another
and say well this is what's going on in
monterey
where i come from and these are the
techniques that they're using
against us and when i say against us
i'm talking about ethically morally
encompassing our lives with burdens that
we shouldn't be carrying we're supposed
to be part of
a united states but right now we've got
a union that's just about broken
states want to separate from others and
some of the states want to do it for
good reason and some of them want to do
it for bad reasons we're in a mess right
now in this country
so anyway getting back to ed
um i went through a series
of events with the deep state
involvement in my program where
things were taken off air where the
station was taken off air
and the owners of the station were very
concerned
and i even got the sense that they were
in on it
okay so
who owns the radio stations that's
putting out the information that we're
getting and how much information do they
let out
this becomes an issue
uh in in my case because i continued to
have
ed on the program after about the fourth
or fifth time
the radio station was off the air for
about six hours
and the station owner and manager were
very
frightened that's what i would say
that's what i got out of the interaction
i had with them
and i got the sense that
something was being done between the
station
and the tower where we were being
uh i can't think of the right word we
were being hacked but between the
station and the tower
somehow they were putting in equipment
where they could monitor my
show and um
after all of this period of time went by
that i was working with dad maybe six
months i started trying to reach george
nori on coast
to coast and i got through the first
time
i told geor george i said you remember
me i'm the guy that was doing
the radio show the quantum leap he says
oh yeah bob
i remember talking to you at the meeting
i said well you remember that guy that
stood up
and said you can see ufos with night
vision goggles oh yeah
yeah he was saying he could see battles
in the sky
i say well it's all true i said i got
him to come down to monterey and within
15 minutes i saw a craft that looked
like they were about a half a mile away
in the sky
and uh it's all true now you gotta
get him on your program okay we'll we'll
look into that
so another three or four months goes by
and it hasn't been contacted by uh
by coast to coast and i i
called up again and uh
this time i got through real easily but
i was put on hold
then i got disconnected and this
happened four
times and the fourth time i said to the
interviewer i said look
i've been disconnected four times i've
got some very important information i
think i'm being disconnected by the
government
and so he's i'll get you right on so i
got on and i got to tell
george a second time you've got to get
hold of
ed grimsley and
then the rest is history i even got an
accolade from george i called back about
four years later and i said
remember i'm the guy who uh told you
about ed grimsley and he goes
you're the guy who started all this
and i am yeah so that's
all that's awesome i really push
ed wanted to do this though he wanted he
wanted to get involved
in a very personal fun
meet people become a celebrity way
and so we made that happen for ed
and he ran with it and he did one
amazing job with it and he shouldn't be
forgotten
because he woke up probably more people
than anything else is waking people up
so i mentioned that one out of eight
people had seen a ufo in 2007 and eight
it is now one out of two
so when we go outside and we're talking
to people and that's what we need to be
doing
we need to be talking to people and
letting them know
that we know they know and that we are
one
now and i think that's the term the
space brothers up there
yeah but that's you know what they've
been working towards to get us to a
critical mass
and i don't know what that number is i
don't know how
dumb we are but they're working on us
yeah um man that's that's so cool
i remember two um on coast to coast and
this was after
uh i think it was after ed grimsley but
james gilliland who's done a lot of work
in this field too
and does the ce5 and does the night
vision goggles and the green
lasers and all of that which i found his
work early on too but i remember him
calling into
uh coast to coast and doing an interview
and they did like
a radio wide ce5 where they led a ce5
initiative
so kind of like okay everybody send out
good intentions
ask for sighting those kind of things
and they did it right before a
commercial break and then after the
commercial break
people all over the world called in
where they were seeing ufos
because they asked to see them oh wow
and i was like man i'm listening like
right man
i'm listening to a recording but i'm
like i'm gonna do it not with you guys
let's see if i see one and uh
and sure enough you know i would have
those experiences too so
there are people carrying that torch but
definitely ed ed grimsley's name needs
to be remembered and repeated
as much as possible um because he opened
up the door for a lot of people and
and now there's a lot of people even on
on youtube who their main their channel
is just
you know a video camcorder inside of a
night vision
you know goggle lens and and showing you
what they're recording and they wouldn't
know about this stuff if it wasn't for
you and ed grimsley out there doing
doing the groundwork to get this
information out when it was ridiculed
now it's cool now i can talk about it
with a podcast and we got listeners and
we're going on retreats but there was a
time where
even when i was talking about it like
you're ridiculed
and you're going to lose friends and all
of that kind of stuff now it's kind of
like
you know everybody's into it and into
ufology or conspiracy theories if you
will
um a couple more questions i got just
kind of directed a little bit
have you ever seen any large ship that
would that we may
call a mother ship maybe something huge
with little ships around it or something
that's
a lot bigger than the rest have you ever
seen something like a mother ship
i have not and this is going to be crazy
but i just i'm throwing this out
you may see a mothership and you may not
be aware of it
i mean you look up into the clouds and
there may be something
inside that cloud that's peeking out
so i'm not necessarily aware of it
i may have seen things that i questioned
yeah have you seen things hiding in
clouds or like
because like going in and out of the
clouds to kind of cloak themselves
because i've i've heard of those and
seen similar stuff as well
well that's saying that all of the stuff
that's in star trek is true
yeah let's say that star trek
star trek and star wars as well right
right uh because literally we we have
seen
craft we've seen examples of lasers
we've seen the stuff that i'm 74 so
we've seen the stuff that i grew up with
on as
science fiction science reality
yeah i like to say the only thing about
science fiction is that the names have
been changed
to protect the guilty hundred percent
once you are keeping all this technology
from us
okay let's let's go into this a little
bit too because you you mentioned this
and and this maybe throws a wrench into
the narrative
um wars do you see them
shooting at each other at each other
right alien races
is this us protecting our earth and
atmosphere against
invading forces what's going on what do
you believe is going on with
this war that's happening above our
heads
as much thought as i've given it i
certainly don't know
there are things that i can tell you
that i know
for example and i hope we'll go back to
this but i'm going to give you an
example of something that i know
have you seen chemtrails do you believe
in chemtrails
yes yes okay so
the interesting thing about chemtrails
when you consider that some people
believe in them and some
people believe you're crazy if you
believe in them
so um one day i was camped out in
uh well i back up about seven years ago
i saw a black line in the sky
okay so a black streak going from one
horizon to the other horizon
and i'm going well that is the weirdest
thing i've ever seen i mean
you got the air you got this black
streak
covering that much territory
how come it's in a straight line why
isn't it blown around by the wind
that is just simply weird question
everything first right
so no answer
well there were clouds up that day did
the clouds make some kind of a shadow
how could the clouds
creating a shadow make it be a straight
line well that doesn't really
fit
you put it in a box and you go i want an
answer i'm going to put this in the box
of questions where i don't have an
answer yet i'll come back to it when i
have the answer
i went on the the youtube looking for
videos of a black line in the sky
there were none that i could find there
was actually one
up but i didn't find it there's one up
from around 2012.
so about two years ago uh
about four years ago now i was laying
outside
and saw is our connection still working
yeah we came up on the screen we're good
can you hear me
okay so um it was about
about four years ago now um
i was laying outside at the monterey
sports center looking up into the sky
and i saw
what i believed was a chemtrail being
laid over monterey
a craft was laying a section
of chemtrail it wasn't a big long wide
section it was just a short section like
this for whatever reason i don't know
but
i thought that could be a chem trail
so it was that big and then the craft
continued around came back
and started laying a second trail so now
we're going to have two
trails side by side so i'm going that's
definitely a chemtrail that craft is
just laying something up there right
there
it was very small it couldn't make out
you know
really the structure of this craft
notice i'm calling it a craft
because when it finished the second
trail it left a black streak
in the sky that was instantaneous so
instantaneously a black streak in the
sky
having something to do directly with
that craft
i didn't see it disappear
i had taken my off of it for an instant
and when i looked back
in an instance time the black streak was
all the way across the sky the craft was
nowhere to be seen
i'm suggesting to you that i understand
speeds enough to say
did that warp out of here
did that go faster than
a hundred miles a hundred thousand miles
per hour
because as i mentioned earlier about the
craft
that we call the delta that craft in
going across the sky
i computed what i believe
the speed of that was and that was
approximately 40
000 miles per hour making angular cuts
this thing was more instantaneous
it takes the the delta approximately
seven
seconds to go from one horizon to
the other horizon at approximately
uh ten thousand feet or five thousand
feet
this thing instantaneous so when we're
talking about a black line
in the sky you can now go to
youtube and you can find approximately
300 videos
pertaining to the black line in the sky
but not any of those videos
has an explanation for it now let me
explain that
you know we all like to uh blog our
comments
onto the um onto the video
and i'm no different except for one
thing when i blog my video
it shows up on my screen on my computer
screen
but nobody else's computer shadow band
so you just brought up a term that i
hadn't learned
of or had the ability to use
up until about six months ago
it's called several different things
shadow band is one of them
and so when did shadow band get started
do you have any idea
i've experienced it too but how
well we go back to looking at a lot of
different
issues in the world today by the way max
jordan maxwell's my hero too
maxwell probably has uh uh gotten
a lot of us involved in this stuff yes
but he was one of the
people that was always a speaker back 20
years ago when i got started in this
and he had some amazing amazing stories
yes
um and i suspect they're all true
i have never found any you know jordan
maxwell
um what's what's uh what's the guy who
who saw the the the roswell crafts
um uh i can't think of his name
that he's from groom lake
he used is it philip something maybe
maybe
oh we'll come back to that um
i do lose my my train of thought
okay well let's let me ask you this so
another anomaly when it comes to
chemtrails
uh people have reported seeing videos
and filming this stuff of
what they would call a ufo erasing the
chemtrails
like cleaning up the chemtrails out of
the sky
have you heard of that have you heard of
that
uh i think i have
there's a lot of varied things that are
going on and
again let's take take you back to
the uh the tide pool watching we have a
lot of different ways we perceive
things these perceptions out and come up
with a pretty basically good
reality of what's actually happening so
i have i believe i have heard of
of
a variety of things that
you have to put in that box again and
keep it in the box where you question it
um
on the on the chemtrails i've worked
through the years with a number of
people
on the chemtrail issue and
most recently there are some good books
out
that that define the ken trails
in terms of paperwork
that they can come up with to
um
what i've already told you i've seen is
in the
these chemtrails yet in the past we
always thought
well these are airplanes these are
somebody's chemtrails
uh paperwork of uh
maybe some of these craft being designed
the design
features of the chemtrail spraying
equipment
patents that pertain to what's being
done with these chemtrails etc
but it's so vast
and there's so much of it to uncover and
then
the trick is well how do you get it out
to the public
i mean my my radio show i
who knows i don't know maybe i had 300
to 500 people
maybe up to 2 000 people that were
listening to it
you get a few of your shows on youtube
and
you see how many people come to youtube
and look at it
we're not reaching a large enough number
of people which could even take you back
to the concept
of the movie they live
even in that movie if they live with
rowdy ron piper
where if you had special glasses you
could see the aliens well isn't that
just about what we're saying with the
night vision gardens
i'm in that movie they said we're not
reaching enough people we're not getting
the word out
how do we get the word out well i i
believe that the way we're getting the
word out right now
here's what i want to make sure that you
understand i wanted to get that
information out on the
on the uh chem trails i've seen the
craft
the craft is gone instantaneously
that's not an airplane that's not
technology we know about
that's the technology that they have to
use
and if they're using it against us
by changing our thought processes
by dividing us into my brother's crazy
he believes in chemtrails
okay and then they put my sister
on drugs because
they can oh you need to go to the
psychiatrist
and what does a psychiatrist do he puts
you on drugs
and then you can consider uh
what was it emily rose exercising of
emily rose did you ever
see that movie and they couldn't cast
the game that was the title
but in that what was that
they couldn't cast the demon out of her
right breaking up but if it was
that's the movie correct
and the reason they couldn't cast the
demon out of her
was that they had a choice drugs
and the church said if you do it with
drugs the demon will take her
and that's what happened in the movie
and it's supposed to be a true story i
believe but yeah it is
so if we if we get two-thirds of a
population on this planet onto drugs
then we're creating a venue a window for
the
for the demons and i truly
truly believe something along those
lines is what's going on
i'm with you um we have a we have a
question here in the chat this is from
b-dawg
and he wants to hear about he wants you
to share the experience
where you uh were falling down a
mountain and had a spiritual experience
where you almost died
i had a spiritual experience
ah well are we ready for that one or can
i finish george nori
that way we're not dealt with george
norris
no let's just film for you real quick so
so finally after my probing of george
um he knew to all right we got to check
into this
ed grimsley business and it kind of
opened a window for
ed to get george to come up on the roof
and look through the night vision
and become one of the group that we know
as holy [Â __Â ]
i think that pretty well explains it so
so then
ed uh got to go on to coast to coast and
was one of the main
uh guests on that program for the next
eight years
i think he was on coast to coast maybe
eight or ten times
and he always did a good job of being
respectful
and george loved the guy
when ed passed away george did a
memorial program for ed
and uh
ed's gonna make me cry now and then
we're gonna i'll be i'll be crying for
the next
10 minutes all right so um
the person who called in is a friend of
mine
who knows me as b-dog
and the story
that he wants me to tell is to get us on
the path of spirituality
and there are many instances if you're
awake
or if you are shaken hard enough by the
universe to wake you up
where you experience things they're just
absolutely
so real that they're unreal
so the episode of falling off the
mountain
happened when i was 16. and it
kind of gets involved because it it
happened in two steps
now if there is a demonic world if there
is a
a uh something else
going on then i would like to preface
what that something is by this statement
we are spiritual beings
born into a conspiratorial world
in which we live in a drug culture and a
fear-based
society so if you can believe that we
are spiritual beings
having an earthly experience it helps
so when i was uh 16
i had a motorcycle
and the way this all occurred was uh at
16
we were going to go on motor scooter
rides down to big sur
about 40 miles away and camp out
now the year before that at 15
all my friends talked to their parents
into letting them go down to big sur
on their own and my parents said nope
you're not mature enough we're not
letting you go down there
and i didn't get to go
but my friends while i were down there
at the gorge in big sur
and the gorge was very steep sides of
the mountain
by the river my friends found
a hiker who had fallen
there crushed his head on the rocks
and by the time they got him
out of there with the rangers that
individual passed away
the following year
was the year that we were going down on
our motor scooters and there were just
myself and a fellow named don bossery
best friend
and each time we would start out on our
scooter
something would break down first his
would break down then mine then his and
mine
so we never got out of monterey for the
first five tries
and don said bob this is a bad
omen we're not meant to go i don't want
to go anymore
and i looked at don who was a little bit
smaller than me
and i said we're going don that's nuts
you're nuts these are mechanical things
i can fix them i'm good
i know what i'm doing and we're going so
i would fix the thing and we'd get
started
and something else would break but
finally
the last thing that broke was on my
scooter was the ignition coil finally
went out completely so all the little
problems i'd had
now the ignition coil failed completely
i could replace the coil
no more problems on my scooter i was
happy
we get down to big sur and the first
campground we go to
it's full don says it's a bad home and
let's get a heck out of here
no let's just go try a different
campground so we've got try all these
campgrounds and they're all full and i
said well we could camp by the river so
then we're looking
for a spot by the river and nothing that
looked good
to dawn and and he says
i want to go home i want to go home
and i said no let's go back to that
first campsite because i saw
back the campsite and they had a one
spot
that was being used as a dump of all
their garbage and i said if i move all
your garbage and set up that campsite
will you let us
have it they agreed so we stayed the
next day
we started out we were going to go
fishing up in the gorge
don went with another men we get into
the gorge area
and they got ahead of me and by the time
i caught up to them
uh dawn was on the other side of a big
pool of water and it was very sheer
cliffs there and i didn't know how he
got there
so i um i yelled to him
and he pointed over to the on the down
looking from the downs
looking downstream he's close pointed
over to the right side of the cliff
and he's trying to
say something and i didn't quite get it
and i said no how did you get
how did you get above me how did you get
through past that pawn
so now he points to this giant boulder
and it's on the right hand side of the
cliff
so i go okay i can go up to the boulder
and i'm trying to get over the top of
the boulder and down to where he is
and i'm thinking if he could do it i
could do it
and i got up on top of the boulder and i
go man this has nuts
i'm going to get killed trying to climb
this thing
well on top of the boulder there was a
little bit of a path up against the edge
of the
of the side of the walls here
and i started up this pathway
and i got up to where i was about 25 30
feet high
and i thought you know this is really
crazy i'm this isn't going to help me
out
i thought it was going to double back
and coming down on the other side of the
boulder but it
it wasn't i started back
down and the cliff little edges that i
had just gone up
gave way so now there was a spot that i
couldn't get
beyond i couldn't get back down and i
had to
make the decision to try to go up and
over the top of the mountain
well this was another bad decision
so i got about
two-thirds up and i looked down and i go
oh my god
i am really in trouble now i think i'm
gonna sit here and pray for a bit
so i prayed let god know that i was in
trouble
and then i looked up and i
i looked down i said i got to keep going
up
because i don't think i can get back
down
coming up was easy looking back down
that was
tough so i start going going up to the
top of this mountain
and when i get up to the top i realize
that it's curved over
right here and i can't get from here to
there to get over the top
and now i'm stuck and i got to go back
down
so i stopped there and i prayed for
about an hour
and you've heard the atheists in the
foxful
prayer well it's kind of like that and
i prayed and i prayed and and i prayed
some more
and i started down the mountain and as i
started
i got in a landslide i lost
my creel and my fishing gear on the side
of the mountain
and i grabbed on
and finally i came to a stop
no intervention other than prayer
and i'm safe and i have to give the
credit to where
the credit is due because
i'm in no better shape than i was
except that i'm still alive
so i prayed more i prayed
and i told god and i told jesus many
times
i don't think i can do this in fact i
i'm at the point where i
do not believe i can do this on my own i
need
help then i started out again
and this time i got caught in the same
landslide but i was picking up momentum
and it wasn't going to stop and that's
when i yelled out jesus saved me
and in those words time stopped
everything became slow motion and a stop
frame and i was a part of something i
had never been a part of before
because i was thinking but
everything around me was like a
beautiful wonderful
moment in a day it's like you could see
the bird
in the in the sky in still motion
and then a voice popped in
and the voice said bob what are you
doing here we weren't
expecting you
so i tell you prayer works
first of all
in the next period of time i got to talk
to some being
something that i did not see but we had
a communication
and the communication was
well i'm falling off of this mountain
and uh can you help me yeah well
it's just more like i'm falling out of
this mountain
and this is pretty interesting i don't
understand any
i didn't say that but i'm falling off
this mountain
and out of that i got well you can
either come with us or you can stay
and i'm thinking
if i stay i think i'm going to get
crashed on the rocks below and i'm not
going to be in very good condition for
staying
if i go then i don't get to stay
do i want to go or do i want to stay
so the conversation included back and
forth conversation
um you
you have the right
now this is what they what the what i
was told
this is in 1962
you have the right to a life review
and i believe those were the words that
were
chosen and given me
i didn't know what a life review was so
i just kind of played along with this
and in playing along with it i can
certainly remember
you know how my mind is going i'm with
somebody who's
obviously in a position to help me
because i can't help myself
i'm
i'm a manipulative human being
in the sense that i'm analyzing this and
i'm trying to figure out well
how do i make this to my advantage
i have to be careful in in what i'm
doing and what i'm saying
and likely this being knows me
better than i know myself
because i'm being helped right now
otherwise i'd be dead on the rocks below
so all of these thoughts are kind of
flashing some of them making sense
i guess some of them maybe not i don't
know
it was a long time ago
and ultimately
i say well with respect to the life
review
since i really don't understand it or
know what it is
who makes the decision and they say oh
you make the decision
of whether you have the life review or
not and i said well
what do you think he's well not much has
happened in your life
so there's not really not much to work
with here but
you make the decision if you want it you
can have it
i said then i defer this to you
if you think that i should have it or
not so i did not have a life review
and we had a little bit more
conversation and then i said with great
intention
because i felt that was important
and i felt i understood what intention
meant
i said what must i do in order
to be allowed to stay
and the intention means i didn't have to
say it but i didn't want to be crashed
on the rocks below so
what must i do in order to stay
immediately the answer
happened immediately and the answer was
you must have a leap of faith
and instantaneously i was sliding down
the mo
the mountain and the whole experience
was
gone but it was not forgotten
that's why i'm telling the story
and so that whole experience was as real
as anything that we experience on this
planet today
is real that was that real for me
except it was in a stop-motion frame
with a voice talking to me
so now i'm sliding down the mountain
and i'm on my belly and i'm sliding i
look off to my left and i see
a a cliff that i'm going to come to
with a lot of rubble around it and i see
a tree
with a limb sticking out and i literally
jumped into space
with that shoulder
and i didn't tell you how i got that
shoulder
but uh
february 28th my father's birthday
and on my father's birthday the story
goes
my mother broke her nose my grandmother
lost an eye my sister broke her arm
and i did this on the motor scooter
on my father's birthday
now i wouldn't be here
today except that on my father's
birthday when this
happened we were in state requirements
course
and they showed the movie blood alley in
which
a highway patrolman comes on camera and
says
if you ever fall off of a out of a
moving vehicle or off of a motor scooter
go into a forward roll
so here i am on my motor scooter with my
father's presence
in the down between my legs i'm in a
corner
and i look up and there's a squirrel on
a pine tree
with a pine cone in its mouth and the
squirrel
is looking right at me and chucks the
pine cone
and it's going to come right under the
front wheel of my motor scooter
and i see this all unfolding and i
all day long all day long since state
requirements class at 8 15
in the morning i can't get out of my
mind
if you ever fall out of a moving vehicle
go into a forward roll
so that's been in my psyche in my mind
all day long
and again it's like it's a small world
isn't it that'll be in your psyche for
the rest of the week
so i go into a forward roll i bail off
the motor scooter
and i see
i see a
bailing off the motor scooter
i am rolling and i see the motor scooter
do an endo flip
and if i had been on the scooter i would
have been riding at about 35 40 miles
per hour
possibly have the scooter flip and come
down on me and be dead at that point so
anyway i survived that i'm falling down
the mountain
i see a limb
i reach out
i grab the limb
with this shoulder it sounds like a
chicken bone
going always remember that sound of my
shoulder
but i only weighed 130 pounds instead of
200
so that was helpful and i'm here so you
can see
i was saved at that point but now here's
the kicker
i'm now sitting on the side of the ledge
still no way of getting down
i pray more
and i'm praying what do i do now should
i go to the right
or should i go to the left and i'm
looking over the side of the mountain
and after about 20 minutes of prayer
i get an answer go to the right
over to the right is a tree
and a bush
so i make my way over to the right and
what do i find
derek i don't know
i don't know
i find a coiled mountain climber's rope
behind the bush i tie it around my waist
i put it around the tree and i lower
myself down a couple times until i get
out of the whole mess
wow
now it's a spiritual story it's a true
story at least
i experienced that and that's what i
tell you i experienced
i get down the story doesn't quite
finish there because
i go looking for my buddy who told me to
get up on top of that rock
and i try to tell him
the story but he doesn't want to hear
about it
we go back downstream and we find these
two young girls
at the at the dam
area of the big sur river and we're
talking with him and finally it gets
very quiet
and all of a sudden i hear don
say shut up oliver
i look at him and i go what'd you just
say
and he says i didn't say anything
oh i look at the girls i
i looked at him i said don you just told
me just
shut up i didn't i wasn't even talking
you told me to shut up
and he goes bob i know what you're
talking about i didn't say anything
so i look at the girls i said girls can
you help me out here what just happened
they say well he told you to shut up you
asked him what he said he says he didn't
say anything
i said dawn do you see that and you
almost got me killed up on the mountain
today too
he had no recollection of saying
shut up he had no recollection of
telling me to climb up on the mountain
well
life
is a lot stranger yeah truth
is stranger than fiction true zika
yes sir um i'm going to share this with
you um
there was this uh experience that i had
that reminded me of kind of what you
said that there are these
beings that
have the ability to stop time
they are or maybe maybe even that's
their main job
is to control time and to make sure the
seasons come in but they're able to stop
time and communicate and move things
around
and shift and shape destinies i think we
would call them angels
um and i've seen them spiritually
they look like
and this is what weird weird people out
they look like with aleister crowley
as a lamb almost like a gray alien
that are able to pop in and out of our
reality and stop time and move things
around
uh and i think there's a connection with
the the craft do you think there's a
connection with
this experience you had with the ufos
and those things
well i i i think you're right
i i can't explain it i think we're on
the right
path of understanding
we have to figure out what are the rest
of the questions we need to keep
questioning
we've been uh we've been sold a false
narrative
of what reality society is
how things work and we're uncovering
a lot of chinks in that in that story
holds in that story or that narrative
agreed
um i'm uh
i've got some more questions but it's
really getting a
strong feedback from the there's like a
list when i talk
i don't know if there's any way we can
i'm gonna turn you down a little bit
more
you know i have the my phone uh let's
see
is that better now check one two
it's still pretty loud let me see
if the microphone is close to the
speaker
let's hold on just a moment okay
um
okay how about now it's still picking up
a little bit how's that
it's it's a little bit better but it's
still picking up um
but yeah it's a little bit better so for
you
what i mean what what does what does
ufology do for you spiritually
um right for me it opened up so
many doors i mean creatively of
god and the angels that you know at
least that's my narrative
but but for you what what did it do for
you spiritually and like
having this awakening that this was real
well working with ed really helped a lot
we both separately came to the
conclusions that
we're likely beings from
maybe other galaxies
who have all been put here to learn how
to get along together
that sounded pretty interesting i
thought
you take a look at the moon and certain
bolides that have hit the earth in the
past
and you
the or just
very very protected and
that debris in space has kept from
hitting us
these are some thoughts anyway that seem
to have
merit
the idea that we're being egged along
in the sense of today
you know a short ten years later one out
of two of us has seen a ufo as
opposed to one out of eight was one out
of ten
in 1990
95. travis walton
story
uh i met travis
i never got to interview him
but um his story
is true uh
just adds another dimension to what all
is going on
we have to consider the politics of the
world
not just ufos but the entire politics of
the world
your idea that there are beings that
know how to stop time
we certainly have other concepts
that we've been exposed to from
shows like star trek where space has
warped
we have um ideas from our own science
that there are gravity wells
we have you mentioned aleister
crowley you know of
um of the
dianetic i imagine you've probably
stuttered
studied dianetics to some degree bell
ron hubbard
l ron hubbard wrote many novels
one was called to the stars
i just happened to have read that book
i think things happened in my life
rather mystically that i would find that
book
while i was in a journey down to los
angeles
on a different mission but in that book
to the stars
science fiction book remember we changed
the names to protect the guilty
but in that story the
main character is a
engineer who works on starships that
visit
earth and need repair
so he is called to one of these jobs
but he is shanghaied and taken into
space
we have treaties we are not supposed to
be
shanghaied we are supposed to be having
a living experience on a planet
where we have the physical properties
that we enjoy here namely a hundred year
lifespan
wife for children a home
we're getting those experiences and now
he's being
shanghaied and taken back into space
which works differently than what we
experience here on the planet
in space he knows that if he's out there
too long
if they go too far of a distance
that when he comes back to earth
things will have changed drastically so
he asks where are we headed
and when are you returning and he says
if i go with
you my wife will be 600 years old when i
return
so assume that that's how things
work and we've been lied to
assume that that is how it works and
that we have been lied to
and then you begin to explore
a world that we know nothing about
a world in which we have choices that
we've never been allowed to make
and in this case i have a third grade
teacher
who studied the hopi indians
and she would tell us all of the stories
of her visiting the tribal areas and
she allowed us to learn how to
build pueblos and we were
we elected a king and queen in our
classroom
and we had a pueblo and we had we were
the hopi
indians we got to experience being the
hopi indians
and i had written a paper
in her class we all were asked to write
a paper
the first week that we were there about
what we wanted to be when we grew up
and i wrote that i wanted to be an
astronaut and i talked about
gravitational forces and
setting up a space station so we could
bring supplies and that once we were
out at that height circling the planet
that we would be able to
more easily use our rocket fuel craft to
go
further out into space she laughed at my
story
and she said you kids and your
imaginations
and i had to take that home decide
whether that was going to crush me
for a life or whether i could come up
with
a better understanding of what she had
said
which i did my understanding was well
you know i i think i'm right about the
things that i'm saying
and maybe she hasn't experienced the
same tide pool i've been looking at
well
about 20 years later we had the
bicentennial
and i got a call from my mother who said
your third grade teacher wants you to be
the guest of honor
in her classroom for the bicentennial i
said what are you talking about
you'd have to understand my mother she
goes are you going to go or not
that's all that's all we were going to
talk about
at that point i said i tell her i'll be
there so i go to the classroom
and instead of the hopi indians from
ceiling to the floor and all
on the walls it was everything to do
with space travel and exploration of
space
and she was on
hearing me by having me be the guest and
her coming to the rationalization
just like your show was doing for people
that i had shown her
that there was something coming that she
wasn't aware of and she
got aware and she brought all that
information to all the kids that
followed
so the story doesn't quite end there
because
uh i forget the exact year i think it
was 2007.
she passed away and i saw the notice in
the paper and i called
the family and asked if i could come and
visit
and they agreed so i met her sons and
daughters
and i told them that i was a ufo
researcher and asked if they'd ever seen
one
and i got a very strange reaction from
them
and i was invited into the living room
where we sat down
as a group and i was told the story
we have never seen a ufo
but our mother has
across the street there used to be a
vacant lot and a craft
landed and the occupants asked her
if she wanted to leave with them
and she told them no that she
wanted to finish out her life here on
the planet
with her family and friends
and so apparently they were told that
story by their mother
and
i find that to be a truthful version of
life
yeah man
bob man i've enjoyed this talk brother
um
what are you doing these days where can
people connect with you to ask you
questions or to check out your work and
all that good stuff
well um i give my information out to
everybody
not everybody calls so it's not a burden
but for those who would like to
you can reach me online at boboliver9
gmail.com and my phone number
i'll give out at the end of the show if
that's all right
yeah otherwise we're likely to have
people calling in right now
i can give it now i guess it's 8 3 1 3
awesome um and you've got a ton of uh
i don't know about a ton but you have
some really interesting
interviews and talks on youtube with you
and ed together
which are really good on your channel
right
yeah yeah there's uh they don't get a
lot of um
hits i probably could have set them up
better to where they would get more hits
but
it was a phenomena that is very rare
and uh ed grimsley was a member of the
eisenhower
family so mamie eisenhower was
ed's grandfather's first cousin
and they had made it packed as kids
to tell each other what was going on in
life
so ed's grandfather knew about the alien
intervention i guess with the american
government eisenhower
it's never been made formally public
but apparently it's so we know
that the universe is much different than
the way we've been told
i came across an interview um
a statement by kennedy
that i believe from my research
is likely true and that is that
kennedy had prepared a speech that he
was going to give
uh had he not been assassinated
and that speech was to acknowledge the
fact that the universe is full of life
and that we are part of the universe and
part of that life
when uh
his administration was there they were
ready to
acknowledge this and make us
more part of the uh the bigger picture
the bigger universe the fact that we are
part of something that is much much
bigger than
a planet in the middle of a solar system
and a universe where there is no life
out there that is such bull
we see life in a drop of water we see
life in the sky when we're looking at
ufos
we could be having a different type of
planetary experience than
where what we've got right now
and i think that what i would offer
towards that
is it is time to wake up
we can do it we should do it
we are prepared to do it
and that's what i want to be a part of i
know that's what you want to be a part
of
a much bigger broader view of
what life is
yeah um are you familiar with laura
eisenhower
i know laura we
have been because of ed we got involved
in all of this
early so i had been going to
ufo conventions and that sort of thing
since the mid
mid 90s they were available to us
and i know laura eisenhower personally
we're friends i don't communicate with
her but
we've done some things together in the
past
she's got some interesting stories as
well and again tied into the eisenhower
family
it's all there for us it's pretty
amazing um
i think mr trump has uh done a good
job in waking us up i think we're at a
another crossroads i think we're going
to get past
the hurdle this time
um i wasn't a trump supporter
uh in the beginning
but uh i certainly
think that any other human being on the
planet deserves as much
accolade as the next even if they're not
quite
spiritually awakened yet i think mr
trump
has done a lot to wake us up
and we'll be doing more
that's awesome um bob thanks for coming
on man and uh
i know i'd love to have you on again
because you have some amazing stories
and i'm just reading in the chat some of
your friends are on here just saying
that you have a lot more to share and
we got to do a part two man
all right love you so much thanks for so
much for hanging out with me and uh
i'm gonna be able to share these stories
with you and and hear yours as well
well i welcome you to give me a call
anytime you'd like thank you brother
we'll have to do it again okay
take your glasses bob bob oliver ladies
and gentlemen
make sure y'all check out his work again
he does have some
beautiful uh interviews on youtube with
ed grimsley himself
and uh and i know that bob continues to
to share ed's legacy and to uh
promote the work that he was doing again
um
huge piece of the puzzle that uh ed
brought to the table
and um a lot of people are doing what
they're doing
because of people like ed and bob as
well who has been there to help and
support
uh his efforts along the way but uh you
gotta go back
you gotta go back and and and do your
homework and and who these people are
again for for me i didn't come up with a
lot of this stuff a lot of people's work
research and interviews and putting
themselves out there
um me consuming that media has put a
hunger and a desire within me to go out
and have my own experiences and and to
to do my own research and ed grimsley
was definitely
a huge part of that and the work that
he's doing again
if anybody would like to donate um you
know that i know they're pretty
expensive but
um it's something that would would be
amazing because we already go out and do
the ce5 contacts with um
with my group on my um we've done some
global stuff just
you know on the podcast like wherever
you are to kind of go out but
uh when we do our our retreats and our
next retreats coming up may the f i
think it's may the first
but it's all the infos at
truthseeker.com um
and so there would be amazing to have a
pair of night vision goggles to go out
there with it
you can see so much and i've seen so
much
um without them and i'm just like
i wonder how much that i could see with
them you know what i'm saying i've never
had a chance to uh
i've been in this for years and i'm
still passionate about that stuff
but i i would love to be able to
experience that so if anybody would like
to donate or anything
send me an email and if i can trade out
work or do something for you
as compensation as well i i'd love to do
that too
um i just don't make that kind of money
to be able to spend that but if we saved
and did some
fundraisers or something listen i'm down
shoot me some ideas
everybody always tells me listen just
raise the money on your podcast
ask for it and people will donate i'm
sure and so
i did a gofundme and it's there i think
one person gave like 25 bucks or
whatever
um but it's something i guess that you
have to kind of like go on like a
campaign for like hey this is what we're
doing
and you got to really uh keep it up i
think deb gave some money thank you so
much but
anyway um you know if you can see that
with the naked eye
going out and being able to see that
look at those videos man
and james gilliland the work he's doing
at east city like they have they have a
couple pairs and
they're able to capture a lot of really
cool stuff and
for many people seeing you know seeing
us believing you know
but the eyes can be deceiving reveal to
me the answers because i'm searching for
the meaning
um i got songs about this stuff man
you know i wrote songs about that and
deb says that was me i donated yes thank
you
uh you were the only one but um i know i
have to keep putting it out there and
keep reminding people
let them know i want to read to you guys
some of these
sightings that i've had over the years
i've articulated them
some of them stand out more than others
but i want to read some of these stories
and i say read because
um after i would have early on
when i would have these experiences
i was told to write them down um whether
it's for a book or something like that
but
to write them down because the way the
mind works it's easy
to forget these things or to read into
on myself or to talk yourself out of it
um so i felt that every experience that
i had early on i wrote them down
and the interesting thing was i started
writing stuff down almost every day
like when i talk about like i gave
myself over to the stuff like i really
did because i wanted to know
it wasn't about doing a podcast it
wasn't about writing a book you know
but it was about wanting to know for
myself and
if you ask the bigger questions you'll
get the answers and so
you got to go out there for yourself i
don't think that i'm privy to this stuff
i don't think that it was just me or i'm
special i think that i went out there
and i spent hours upon hours
by myself under the stars meditating
talking to god trying to make contact
and i did
and i wrote these these down and and i
and i don't think they're
i got a whole bunch of them they're not
in any particular order
and it's easy to to forget about this
stuff i don't even probably
remember this stuff until like i read it
and then boom because you had so many
um let me just pick one here and i'm i'm
going to read a cuz i've seen so much
that's the thing
and if just one of these are true that's
the thing too
let's just say all of them are fake but
one
some of them were satellites some of
them were technology that we have
you know i'm going to read some of these
let's see
um uh here's one here it's i just titled
it a light
within a light and these are just like a
journal that i wrote down
this was in nine locksley alabama
while i was driving towards pensacola
florida one morning at four o'clock
am i was focusing on a bright star in
the sky
i had been asking the father to show me
a chariot for a few years
and have seen nothing on asking
nevertheless
i've always kept watching the sky so i
was focused on this star
and it started fluttering brighter and
dimmer and
began to change shape and color all of a
sudden
a small light as bright as the star
itself
floated out of the light and flew over
moving up and down before i lost sight
of it in the clouds
this was a star that i was focusing on
or at least what i thought to be a star
and it was it was like it was fixing a
morph it was like doing this
it's changing color and we know that if
we focus on stars and
they they look like they're doing that
anyway right changing color but it was
just like
like pulsing pulsing pulsing like this
and all of a sudden a light
came out of the star and was like doing
this wobbly
and i'm like the hell am i what am i
seeing
that's one instance guys that's one i'm
gonna keep going
um which one this one's called blink i
don't even
i guess this okay whenever i go out i
usually get some type of siding
uh one neat phenomenon i think they use
just to let me know that they are there
is simply blinking at me
usually it's out of the corner of your
eye that you almost miss it unless you
focus on that area
of the sky right focus on that area
i was out in my backyard with two
friends who have some knowledge and
interest in the field i shared my
experiences with them
we prayed that the father would give us
a sighting
and then i saw one a blink out of the
corner of my eye it's just kind of like
a quick faint
light so i said okay they're out there
and looked up and seen it blink at me in
the same area
you'll see i'm just sitting there
blinking just these little blinks right
that's just one little thing and it
could be anything right let's keep
reading
this was uh man i'm not going to read
this one but this
this is in my book but anyway i just
talk about it one of the the most
beautiful experiences um let me i'll
read it it's not too long
this one i called by the stars of orion
i stopped at an exit right past
pensacola florida to spend a few minutes
sky watching
and enjoy the view and the cool breeze i
got out and began to name off all the
constellations and stars that i knew
i then began to pray and sing this new
song that i wrote to god that's really
powerful
i was looking up at the constellation
orion and then i turned away
i looked back at the belt of orion and
saw that it was lit
very brightly and it caught my attention
because it was too bright
then i looked a little higher and saw
that it was not orion's belt that i was
seeing at all
but what looked to be three bright stars
in the position
of the belt of orion four fingers arm
span
below the constellation as soon as i
realize this the two stars on each end
begin to move
towards the constellation and the lights
on each end began to move up and one
started to zigzag a little towards the
other
they moved up towards the constellation
orion and lost their brightness
as they appeared to go into the
constellation
the star remained in place and i ran it
by
i ran uh by my work truck to get my
camera to see if i could get any video
but needless to say the camera quality
could not pick up
any lights in the sky because it was a
low quality camera phone
the middle star was actually the star
regal
in the constellation orion that was one
that that blew me away
and uh i got to see him posing as
orion's belt then i looked up a little
bit
and seen that it really wasn't orion's
belt orion's belt was just above it it
was like almost
it was like the orion's belt had doubled
there was orion's belt and then right
below
it was the even brighter orion's belt
but one star in the middle was part of
orion
and the two on each end
was in the same formation when i said
hey that's not orion it's like yep
you're right
and then they leave and they go into
the horse horsehead nebula of orion
blew my mind let's see destin sighting
oh god so mrs long
while we were on vacation in destin
florida my good friend reggie sent me a
text message wow i see i forgot i forgot
little details
i forgot i forgot all about this reggie
had been studying the ufo phenomena and
paranormal for quite a while and he's a
devout believer
in the way as well so needless to say
we've both shared our experiences and
thoughts openly with one another on this
subject
the text said i just saw a ufo in broad
daylight
i watched it for about one minute and
was praying father
reveal to me what it is then the
floating object immediately disappeared
from my site reggie then told me that
he's seen that
at another time the next day we rented
jet skis and was in the ocean
there was not a cloud in the sky i
looked up over my shoulder and saw a
cigar-shaped ufo
it looked like an airplane but with no
tail or wings the object reflected the
light from the sun
and then just started to disappear i
wanted to make sure that i knew
what it was that i saw i was not far off
uh so i told my wife to stop the jet ski
and i looked up to see if i could see
any airplanes
we both looked up in the area and i
could not see a thing
uh then my sister-in-law and her husband
came up on their jet ski
the girls got on and headed back while
me and john
which is my brother-in-law i stayed out
john is really big into this stuff as
well
and it's a believer and so i told him
what i'd seen and we've been looking at
the stars every night and watching ufo
documentaries and videos all week we
started to drive off and i told him to
stop
we both looked up and saw the same
object we watched it
just as it began to fade away see one of
the things about seeing this kind of
stuff is seeing it by yourself
but then again seeing it with others
being able to whether it's
repeatability with ufology and i think
that the ce5
initiative and the telepathic
communication and things like that
um lean to having some type of
repeatability that you can go out and
actually
conjure or we used to call this
summoning ufos
summoning ufos is what we called it um
we didn't coin that phrase it was a
video that i seen of prophet yahweh who
went out
and asked god for sighting boom they
show up
and he wasn't the only one there was
people in mexico doing this and
me watching that video studying the
bible i wanted to have my own
experiences and then these were things
that
uh i began to see this was one of the
most amazing encounters i've seen
november 11
2009 in mobile alabama
i was driving across the i-65 i-10
connector back from foley headed to work
i was listening to dr a dr stephen greer
interview
and mp3s all day and so for those of you
who don't know
uh that is the ce5 initiative that dr
greer made famous
and and and i guess i said that to say
that i while i was driving when i used
to drive i'd be looking up like i'm
barely watching traffic in front of me
i'm driving this truck
looking up every chance i get and i'm
listening
to ufo documentaries what i'm doing is
i'm building expectation that i'm going
to see something
and i would go i mean a full day looking
up
listening to these documentaries and uh
until you've seen something
i looked up towards my left while
driving and i saw a fleet of about
15 to 30 hovering lights
they were just floating there suspended
in midair
suddenly they began to shrink and when
they got small they turned into a flat
black line
which disappeared it was like they
almost blinked at me
they then reappeared from the flatline
and got bigger into the white ball again
they slowly blinked like this three
times before they disappeared
at flirt at first glance i thought they
were a flock of seagulls
seeing the white and then making that
thin black line was like them flapping
their wings and turning
the only problem is they never moved
they were all just suspended in air
this was an awesome sighting seeing that
i was praying to god to show me some
during the day in the daylight this is
during the day this was at noon 12
o'clock
um besides anyone can make mistakes for
some lights in the night sky
uh for an airplane helicopter satellite
whatever
but this was outside in broad daylight
without
a cloud in the sky to be able to look at
this big
opening of of just blue sky
and out of nowhere these lights appear
and then they you can see them turn and
they morph to be a black line
and then they cloaked it was like they
cloaked they went away all of them in
sequence
15 to 30 and they would like
show their glory which is the white
light
then they would cloak and hide their
glory and it was like
seeing this during the day man um
blew my mind when you talking about
changing my life
the spirit world angels
god is he you know all of this stuff it
made it so
much more real to me and uh and i and it
changed you know the
my life i was a christian minister and i
began to talk about this stuff and get
into ufology and stuff and they would
they didn't want to have
anything to do with that you know uh but
now they do
now you know they invite you to come on
their podcast and come to their churches
and and talk about this stuff but early
on this is oh nine you
i've got it dated 2009. this stuff
wasn't cool to talk about
um but now chris christian mysticism is
definitely on the rise and you can be a
believer and and have these experiences
and expect them and you'll see them they
will
what you believe will reveal itself to
you
and not just in your mind but literally
seeing these things out there um
so man this stuff changed changed my
mind man so
changed my life just wanted to share
some of those and there's a whole bunch
more
a whole bunch more stories that up that
i've written down and um
and then it had got to the point where i
quit writing them down just because it
began to be so many
like every day so i wrote down a whole
bunch until like it's like look i can't
be
right in every you know anomaly down
every experience but these were some of
the first ones that
really did it for me and i would take
other people out and we would have these
experiences together and
here we are what 12 years later
12 years later still talking about these
experiences
and for me it is the angelic there is a
spiritual war going on
um but but we are uh being protected and
watched over
by angelic forces um who have been here
since we were primitive
since you know they've been here since
the beginning and and they're not
demonic
there are such things as as demons or
evil forces and
lower level entities but um they have no
power when it comes to
you know the angelic um
you know what's going on uh above our
heads that we don't know we've been sold
a narrative what to think what society
is
politics plays in to a huge part of this
and they're very good at uh
getting your attention to to get your
mind off of that stuff and get your mind
on this stuff
the bible says not to focus uh um
on the things of the flesh on the things
of this world which are temporal but to
focus on the things
above which are eternal and so
the goal of the government are
rulers in this realm who are who are
over us
and have set themselves up on thrones
and and king the kingdoms of this world
um they i believe that they
when we talk about this war like ed
grimsley have seen
these things shooting at each other
outside of the
earth's atmosphere and they explode and
blow up
like star wars
who's good who's the good guys who's the
bad guys um
and i've been vocal about this i mean
many other people have but i think that
our
our leaders are the bad guys the ones
who are are testing
things on us who are letting us eat food
that that is not even real
real food that fake food um
you there there is some video footage
that you can see of of things coming
towards the uh
the earth and uh we shoot laser beams at
it to kind of
move it away or or to scare it away so
that people don't see it it doesn't come
into the atmosphere but i don't think
that they're bad guys at all the bad
guys are down here with us
when you understand um
um you know what they are to me they're
they're angels they're
angelic um we got a question here it
says are these ufos actually angels i
believe so
i believe so i believe again um
i wouldn't say that all of these are
even or ufos when we think of a ufo
we're thinking of nuts and bolts we're
thinking of metal
you know the uh beings that are that
have a ship that has an occupant in it
that's driving it
i think that a lot of these things that
i've seen over the years and other
people have seen
they're morphing they're changing their
some would call them even plasma ships
but i believe that
many of these things that we're seeing
are actual entities themselves
uh and there's a lot of research about
the cherubim of the bible
being um these living ships if you will
um so i think that they they're angels
when we
when we read um the scriptures
it says that in in psalm it says that
the lord maketh his ministers as a flame
of fire
the book of enoch goes into a little bit
more detail that says that
the angels when they're in the ethers
when they're in the heavens
which is when we look up we're gazing
into the heavens that the beings the
angels in the heavens control
are they travel as fire they are as a
flame of fire but when they want to they
can come to earth
and relay messages to mankind and take
upon
the shape of men and so hebrews also
says that we entertain angels unaware
it also echoes this notion of angels
being fire
manoa communicated with beings that
traveled through the fire almost as an
elemental spirit that comes out of the
fire this is in the bible
comes out of the fire delivers a message
goes back into the fire and uses that as
a portal to go back
to heaven so they communicate and it can
step in and pop into our reality through
the elements
through earth air fire and water um all
of these things so
and even for me that the biggest one is
when we look up the word seraphim
in the bible the seraphim is the fire is
called the fiery serpents
serpents that that word nakash
is synonymous with knowledge they carry
god's knowledge and a lot of this is
imparted through
telepathic communication you're
receiving
knowledge from the stars knowledge from
eternity that is god's knowledge that
they are the not the protectors of the
holy wisdom the holy science of
how the universe works people will try
to summon
demons or summon angels to get this
knowledge from them
and they carry god's knowledge in god's
wisdom but it means the fiery serpent
serpents is synonymous with fire i mean
with knowledge and then
the fire is how they travel the word
seraphim in the bible
means the fiery serpents they travel
as fire during the day it says the bible
says that
the israelites followed god as a cloud
by day it would look like to be a cloud
and a flame of fire by night this cloud
or what looked to be a cloud was fire at
night
and it and they followed it through the
wilderness so there's a lot of
interesting um verses in the bible about
communicating with angels about angels
that
carry messages they're messengers i mean
that's what the word angel means we got
to understand that
so are these actual angels an angel is a
messenger
when we're talking about the meaning of
that word
you're an angel if you're carrying a
message you're an angel
you're a you're one of god's messengers
the message of what his love his light
the gospel
how much god loves people like you
become an angel an angel of god angel of
the lord
a chil a child of god even the elohim
and that just gets into a lot more stuff
but just to make it more practical
and and these angels assisted uh uh
believers in in the in the scriptures
they ministered to jesus we have
angels that are watching over us that
will not uh
uh let us dash our foot against the
stone as it says in Psalms 91 there's a
lot of
of information there's a lot of um
info about the angelic in our
relationship with them in the bible and
then
through people's experiences as well
whether it's divine revelation
repeatability
encounters i'm going to be doing a lot
more um
activation and showing people how to
engage the ce5 stuff
again it takes it from the imagination
and brings it right in front of your
face
it is real it's not a theory it's not
science fiction
it's what's going on above our heads the
christian mystic
one who first started out making a lot
of this mysticism popular we're talking
about going into the akashic records
getting knowledge from god about
people's ailments and how to heal them
edgar casey edgar casey says
that the battle of armageddon will be
fought
in outer space above our heads
and maybe it's taking place right now i
don't think that our rulers are good
people
i don't think that they're people in
general
i don't think that they're like us i
don't i know that gets into a lot of
weird
crazy conspiracy stuff but hey people
are diving into it
and it's it's proven to be to be legit
there's a lot of stuff that people are
getting into um
but they're not like us you know it's
politics
it's your entertainers this stuff's
coming out the more you get into it
now i don't i don't say that stuff so
that you get into it
i say that stuff so that um you come out
of it
and stop studying it just understand
that that
that we're not the same and whether what
is that i mean
everybody has their own experiences
or research that they've done
to know that that we're just different
we do not
operate the same um and you can hear it
you can catch it you can see it
from time to time and so just know that
um but know that god is for you
that we are on the winning side of
whatever
this battle is and that it is a
spiritual battle but it's quite physical
as well um jesus is king
over all the he is the lord of the
realms of heaven of earth of all of them
he owns the keys
to death hell and the grave of
everything so he is the ultimate supreme
deity jesus christ
and so we have when whenever um
bob was in that that position the way he
thought he was about to die he was
at the end of his rope quite literally
he called out to jesus
boom his life was changed it's the same
way
go there's there's when we talk about
mysticism when we're talking about
angels and aliens and all types of other
beings and all of this kind of stuff
you can know you can know for sure you
can have experiences
i submit to you that you go through the
gate of christ
which is ultimate divine love if love
if universal love for all beings for all
for humanity
for your greatest good became the love
of god became a person and dwelt among
men
that is who jesus is read the book of
colossians if you want to know who jesus
christ is
read the book of colossians it will tell
you exactly who he is he is the head of
all principalities
all demons all powers everyone either on
this side of eternity
or the next must bow to the lord of the
realms
jesus christ ultimate white light the
greatest good
we have direct access to god through
the work of jesus christ so understand
who you are
as you move into your mysticism
dance with the dead better be 10 times
more deadly
you got to know who you are your
identity is key
your identity is key knowing who you are
in the christ
and in the etheric realms i'm going to
be teaching a lot more on this i've been
writing stuff for a couple years on this
i just didn't know how to release it
whether it's going to be done through
devotionals or a book or teachings
probably all of it um just to
get it out um but knowing who you are
because if you don't know who you are
then they can tell you who you are
if you don't know who christ is they can
tell you who christ is and who is they
listen spirits it's a spirit spiritual
war anyway even if it comes through a
person
it's a spirit what is that spirit could
be the spirit of bitterness
it could be the spirit of jealousy so
they're spirits who are jealous of jesus
christ of his authority
of his renown of his
you know judgments they're jealous they
hate him
and they hate you because you're made in
his image because he undid their work
or look like the enemy won christ comes
flips the table flips the script go
deeper into that that's what we do
on our thursday night meditations in
prayer we're going to do this on this
channel every thursday night
we're going to do a live stream prayer
it is about engaging christ going deeper
into the heart of god
jesus is the heart of god and we go
deeper into that
through meditation through prayer people
are going through we gotta make this
stuff practical
it is super far out but we have to make
it practical so that's what we do on
thursday night
school of the mystics and we're gonna do
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and everybody in your differences um
are a part of the body of christ christ
is definitely
glorified in our differences and knowing
that we can even put those differences
aside
to come together for the sake of love
for the sake of unity
and listen that really is walking in the
consciousness of christ christ
consciousness
love you guys thanks for hanging out
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we'll do it again peace peace
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tonight peace
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