Channeling Jesus | Joe Rutland | TruthSeekah Podcast

Channeling Jesus | Joe Rutland
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my guest today is Joe
Rutland Joe welcome to the true seeker
podcast my friend how are you I'm doing
well true seeker thank you so much for
having me and hello everyone out there
around the world man you have a
interesting story and it's near and dear
to my heart and like I said I in the
intro like I've talked to a lot of
people over the years and a lot of
mystics mediums and channelers and
things like that and quite honestly
lately I've been pretty vocal about
channeling and reaching out to other
spirits and demons and all these kind of
things and Jesus is really near and dear
to my heart so when I seen your story
and and you said you begin to receive
messages from Jesus I was like we got to
make this this podcast happened I want
to just get into your story and then
maybe towards the end maybe we can see
if Jesus has a message for the community
listening today
sure sure I am I'm very grateful and
thankful for this gift that I've been
given and I don't take this gift lightly
search seeker I don't at all it is
something that I know is a gift
for the world they did something that
resonates within my heart and my soul
and it is something that after not
coming out publicly for a long long time
and we can talk about that in a minute I
finally decided you know this is a gift
and if you have a gift maybe you should
share it with the world
maybe but it's something visual the
person to make that decision especially
a thing like this - I mean you know
there's a lot of a lot of different
thoughts and different beliefs around
Jesus of Nazareth and you having so many
diverse yes on this great podcast of
yours you've had a chance to talk to so
many different people so I just been
really really grateful for this
opportunity to be sure with you and
everybody else so yeah well I mean I'm
excited to delve into it man and so I
love the origin stories I love the
genesis of like how was it at the
beginning like how old were you when you
started having supernatural encounters I
think this is a dive a step towards the
supernatural how was any of this stuff
going on when you was a child were you
able to see or hear when you were little
or no well it was a long time ago in a
galaxy far far away we're kind of a day
after doing this podcast paid for but it
but truly when I was a kid but go do a
little background spiritual religious
background here I was raised in physical
Church I am a native Texan if you can't
tell by my accent I was born in Houston
Texas raised in Beaumont Texas I was
going on unilateral cleft lip and cleft
palate and a Dan Severson surgeries
throughout my life
to repair that and other other medical
things as well my spiritual journey we
began has a child at st. Mark's
Episcopal Church in Beaumont Texas says
raising physical church because prophase
which is a liturgical brand of worship
and it's very it's been called Catholic
light by those who taught there there's
some there's some definite comparisons
you know between what's the Roman
Catholic liturgy is and personally Jews
anyway what what I learned there as a
child through the seeker was something
very simple that God is love I never was
oh never was it I never got into never
wasn't given the message of God is this
big giant flunking bold throwing guy in
the sky throwing you know looking at
every bad thing I do and I'm gonna go
burn in hell and also I never got that
message me personally I got the message
of a loving God and hello loving Jesus
so this is something that's always doing
within me throughout my life evident
member of different denominations
throughout my life Christian Methodist I
was Catholic for our cup of coffee for
about a year and I what I found really
in my experiences during both in
whatever denomination is part of that
for me the core things that it's about
love and that's the message that carried
through we felt leaves were a lot of
different things in my life like through
growing
in a rather dysfunctional home of course
who doesn't broken in small cellphones
be honest yeah I think really and I mean
Venice always you know but but there are
some things that are harsher than others
going on in homes and and so and there
were things in my in my life going on
those you know my parents they loved me
but there was a lot of energy more the
maternal motherly need for me as a child
as a young adolescent to be a circus
palace fathers figure father confessor
for her so there was a lot of that
started coming my way and it kind of
gotten muddied up it muddled up this is
sorry the word I'm looking for muddled
up with God is love because in a way the
way as children parents are in a way
supposed to give us direction and
guidance in our lives and and show us a
way of living that is healthy and whole
and nurturing but I am sure that many of
the guess you've had on maybe all of
them they all come from different ways
of different growing up stories if you
will adolescence young adulthood
adulthood so for me always having this
inner feeling that love is big guys love
and love is God and that's it and and
then it move on in life some you know I
needed some weight and now not my
feelings I didn't know I had feelings
let me know I had emotions I mean my
emotions feelings were not tied into
what God thought was Jesus thought of me
they were tied into what my mother
thought of me what my grandmother was
their emotion students were the kind of
guy in me and so my spiritual journey
instead of it being like a like the
arrow you live II regret it was straight
it was it was it wasn't doing all so and
people I'm sure that you know can relate
to that out there right now because not
everybody spiritual journey is like
everybody else spiritual journey like
yours is not like mine and mine is not
like yours and that's okay that's okay I
wish more people just spoke you know I
honored your journey yeah I honor your
journey if they more people did that my
humble opinion I feel like two might be
we might get along better together in
this world but but but my spiritual
journey truth seeker is one that that
for a period of time well I was raised
in a very say liberal minded household
I'll say that and then in my early 30s I
was student body right I mean I was
thinking I was extreme extreme left
extreme right and it was like you know a
absolute you know and about three years
after being student body right about
everything and having all that the Bible
is inerrant Word of God and all these
types of things and I'm not going to go
into all of that because the listeners
of your podcast know what that is about
both and and it's okay whatever your
listeners whatever you are out there my
brothers and sisters of the human race
if your left is your right your whatever
it's okay if your going to be above
that's okay too well what I found for me
I found for myself that I had to I had
to find something that was not so
extreme and what happened was saying
does that mean I had a crisis of faith
really it's what it was and what
happened was I got some outside help I
got some therapy which I needed in my
life professional help and one of the
things one of the questions for ticket
that came up inside me was what if
everything I believed to be the truth
wasn't but if everything I believed to
be the truth wasn't well then
everything's gonna be taken apart it's
with the partner you know it's like
opening up a box and seeing everything
all nice neat about the paper and it's
like oh crap
what is this mess you know and and Here
I am with this box of mess called my
life and that's when I started doing
what I call soul work deep soul work
looking looking leaving these streams
alone because I can't like I'm with man
that's where I'm at and there's so many
other people in the unlearning process
if you will even I remember yes
yesterday's just reading comments of
like they're just I'm learning you know
we've been told that this is it and it's
only this way and if you think I'm sad
the box you're wrong but there's so many
people who are like moving closer to
love and so there's this far left and
then it's far right but then I believe
that
narrow road of Jesus's in the middle and
that's where the perfect pieces of
learning how to stay in the balance of
all things is that is that kind of where
you are balance is a key to me it really
is during so let me get back to just
that little space there because it it
really begins for me to turn my life in
a different place now mind you I never
lost my belief in God or for those who
asked me if they don't believe in Geo D
maybe they believe in a higher power or
energy angels or or divine love divine
light I don't care what you taught me I
don't you call it what you want it but
for me at that that's a crucible angle
it was a crucible brother I am not
kidding you it was it was sold it was
soul work with with it and and I started
surrounding myself with actual people
men and women who were working on their
souls in ways that I was not even open
to I lived a very sheltered lifestyle a
lot of my life has been sheltered but
it's time in in the early 2000s this is
when I started peeling back the old
peeling back the layers of the onion I'm
still feeling the onion all these years
they never stopped can I get to the
onion corn leaves it just doesn't so
when I was doing this type of stuff and
I found myself in the crisis estates
found myself in a place where I started
cleaning up some parts of my life not up
now I hate to break the news to you
stick into those listening and watching
back there
I am very human I have faults but I am a
loving caring trying to passion a
beautiful handsome sexy healing name I
believe that with all of my heart and
soul that's one of the things that came
out for me in that period of my life
instead of being so like beating up on
myself but you still do eight times and
there's any old phrase get off get off
the cross Joe let somebody else use the
wood you know that I've heard maybe you
haven't heard so in it and I'd say that
no there's people out there that it's
like the phrase means you couldn't beat
yourself up basically what somebody else
beat themselves up if you good enough
that but I did that a lot I was beating
myself up over things that sometimes
we're not allowing doing and so during
this finding my balance timing balance I
became a voracious reader
I was I was hungry to heal I mean I
started reading everything I could like
if I saw a book and it resonated with me
oh I got grabbed it I didn't it didn't
matter if it wasn't if it if it didn't
fall into the Christian category I
didn't I didn't care I was like I just
wanted to get something inside of me to
help me heal and that included you know
getting sophal from alcohol which I had
been for a while now I'm looking till
say years or what that's look for a bit
I'll say that I mean it's been a while
and one of the things that really really
I begin to understand I began to
understand about my life in this period
of time was that number one I'm not
alone and number two I'm loved and
number three people really do want to
help and they care about me that's good
so a lot of people feel marginalized and
they feel like they don't have hope is
that where God comes in is that where
God steps in this unconditional love
luckily that was embedded into your
psyche that God loved you you know that
there wasn't this wrathful God who's
looking for all the wrong that you've
ever done and a lot of times we received
that from our parents our parents are
really hard on us and they're looking
for for you know ways for us that
whenever we mess up there they are you
know with the ruler trying to get us
back in but uh but losing a God is a
loving deity it changes everything right
it does it does true seeker it does
because I've been around those and you
have to they're raised with you know God
is going to smite you for ABC you know
and and if you don't and by God if you
don't say the sinner's prayer you're
gonna go to hell if you say it then
everything's good and then it's not
that's the mentality a lot out there
true seeker and investment tells me some
of the people that are watching this
right now go forth it's okay but me
personally what resonated you know about
six or seven months ago and I haven't
forgotten the point I left in the story
so I'm gonna go back okay well six or
seven months ago
I said listening to philosopher Alan
Watts some so what is his lectures
during his life was about Jesus his
religion and I'm guessing this lecture
was in the late 60s early 70s somewhere
in the US I'm not sure where he was
talking about Christianity and he made
the comment of calling what Reverend
Billy Graham presented he called it
kindergarten Christianity that was oh
okay and watch said that meaning it was
like a it's like a simply Chloe you were
born as a sinner
plus you need a Savior equals Jesus it's
very basic you can understand it it's a
gospel message and there are hundreds of
thousands of people around the world who
start there and that's something better
they hold on to
okay for me I couldn't hold on to that
and that's just later in life that came
bill became aware of Graham and it's
worth something that he did a lot of
good things I'm not here to merge grands
Billy Graham spork she did a lot of good
things for people I want to make that
real clear well when I heard watch say
that I went oh my god oh okay
like it's like you know an awareness
piece and and that takes me back to the
point I left off in my Genesis story
origin story is I began having these
awareness and these are Hopf about my
own life and about my about my response
when I reacted to other people with
other things in my life and they all
came from a place in my heart and my
spirit and my soul that were hurt and
had been damaged because I had given so
much of myself to other people that I'm
I'm the type true seeker that you know
I'm gonna ask you are you okay oh do you
need something
give me my shirt need my shirt right now
I'll give it to you here you ask me how
I'm doing it might be like walls burning
around me you know and and cars stolen
left with nothing I'll go online I'm
okay and I could I don't let you see I
let anybody see what's going on in my
wall I'll tell us a few people but it
really takes me hitting rock bottom
which I've had a lot of my life for to
accept help so to move forward in my
Genesis story now as I kept doing my
soul work and digging up all this stuff
inside me and making stops at different
denominations and different churches and
things like this I found within myself a
place that I can say within myself that
I love God I love Jesus of Nazareth and
Jesus to me is my best friend who never
leaves me them for section
and that is good enough for me
yeah that one truth right and you were
just not even touching the iceberg you
know that one the truth that I have a
friend that will never leave and never
forsake me if you stop that net we're
good but that's just so much more right
right and that's okay and that's enough
for for me and i and i'm and and to let
you and those watching you listening yes
I've read the Bible I read it back and
forth front left right inside outside
like you know more than eight nine ten
times in my life so I'm not coming at
this from like oh you've never read not
stopped yes I've read them yes I've read
the scriptures I've read the the
epistles from st. Paul beautiful letters
I've read the gospel narratives within
the Protestant and Catholic Bibles I
guess I can go here you know there were
Gospels that were not included in the
Protestant Catholic Bibles even people
talk about that too on your podcast in
the past me did the Gnostic Gospels you
know and and there's a lot in there too
but again you're getting outside the box
if you go there but I believe there are
a lot of people actually earlier through
six there are a lot of people that can
you focus yourself that are beginning to
open up to that that can fit it kinder
gentler love-filled pass and as they
choose to walk it with Jesus
or God fine the juice - water would
divine love divine light that's fine it
used to walk it with whatever nature if
that's sir excessively hip with nature
okay with me I'm not here I don't like I
don't it isn't for me to say this is the
way you need to go oh I don't think so I
don't think so that's not like that's
not like that's not my role that's not
my role but let me get to the let me get
to the point about when in the world
that I start hearing Jesus of Nazareth
so about twenty years ago almost startin
it was almost sounds like sergeant
pepper's it was twenty years ago but it
wasn't today that I was meditating quiet
just being you know still and are giving
me this this this voice has said I won't
ever leave me Memphis thank you and you
know when you tell someone you you're
hearing the voice in your head some of
them become Ralph Kramden of The
Honeymooners the Jackie Gleason charity
oh you're going to build out you need to
go right now you know so I'm not one to
you know I didn't thing but this kept on
going for six or seven months and it
won't be team more than just said it
came like hearing intuitively within my
soul like I love you and you're loved
and cared for and there's a viewer
you're surrounded by loving angels
you're just you're loved and I remember
kept on going and going finally mr.
seven months echinus and going on inside
me I asked a question inside myself I
said
who it who is this boy speaking to me
inside me and I heard it is I Jesus of
Nazareth come see you
I went okay and for the next 20 years
it's continued and even as I gain jobs
left jobs gained their transportation
lost transportation when three victims
went through you know life itself that
never left me that never left me at all
and so the toward the end of last year
in 2019 so future users won't like last
year's one been flattened including the
2019 I came to a decision within myself
that you know this is a gift can maybe
use time to it this gets out to the
world and so because well first of all
if Jesus of Nazareth man you know mount
Balaji it's not the aliens it's not it's
Jesus man I mean well yeah I mean you
know you come out but I come out and say
it's like people know you don't do that
no no no yeah but as I began to open
this part of myself up to the world and
really in the past six months I had
people
from across United States and Canada
Peru Argentina Mexico Australia Greece
that and that I've had individual
sessions with and a lot of them have let
me know that they felt more peace and
contentment in their hearts after
allowing the session to the energy of
the session to stay within them in their
parts and some people has even a few
people not even if said you know that
things that were drawn beside them had
been troubling them for a long time
whatever they heard eleven experienced
helped them feel relief from that inner
turmoil and I admit that this bit up
there is a part of me that's always felt
like a healer I think that was kind of
also something else that was kind of
ingrained in me yes at a young age to be
like a helper you know like I've had
like helping my mom helping look
grandmom you know and and take care of
their needs all that and ignoring my
which is very unhealthy there it's
really an l-sit it is it caused reasons
down the road a lot more clarity I think
that that instilled within me an ability
to want to help people heal and that
stays has stayed pretty true to this day
it's awesome
the world needs it more than anything
right now and I'm with you a hundred
percent
you know everything flows out of my
relationship with with Jesus with Christ
as well in being able to set up
encounters where other
people are able to encounter Jesus and
his love I think that when it comes to
channeling I think there's a lot of
people who channel personifications I
have people that talk about like they
channel Michael Jackson these people
would claim the channel raw you know all
of these different deities demons their
uncle's past uncle's I think that a lot
of people there's an idea of what that
is in then a channel and it's okay this
is what Michael Jackson would do in this
situation this is what he would say
people claim the channel Hitler all this
stuff when we're dealing with Jesus
we're dealing with the highest
vibrational form of love it that exists
we're bypassing any any pit stops on the
way we're going directly to God's love
that was manifest in a person it's the
highest form so being able to have
someone do a conversation you know I
noticed people who can feel the love
coming off of you even sharing your
story you know it's and then whatever
you create whatever you do it's a you're
channeling that love of Christ because
it's within you it's coming it's coming
out of you and then being able to
whether it's through a meditation
whether it's through breath work just
looking within letting people encounter
that there's no greater joy than being
able to facilitate that experience for
somebody it is true and and I thank you
for that and you know I mean now I'm in
familiar with people and I'm gonna name
a couple names here people that I've
heard that are chan worst and to let you
and let the wonderful people listening
and watching this know I'm not the only
person to channels uses Nazareth in the
world okay so I'm not here saying I am
the one no there are many others I do
too but the leg whatever comes for me
comes for me whatever comes through them
comes through them and I
don't I'm not here to have a Jesus
channeling competition yeah battle of
channelers Network Stars competition I
mean yeah you're thinking like that way
I think wouldn't would make it to where
you wouldn't be a Clear Channel
you know because you would be trying too
hard you would be it you would be your
conduit when that conduit would be a
little bit clogged up because it's like
I have to outdo myself have to be the
best I have to do that and so the
messages come through a little bit
miscued and this happens in a lot of
churches people claim to channel this is
what the word of the Lord says and
they're not a clear channel there's
hidden agendas and motives they're true
when you when somebody is you can tell
when they're walking in love and their
intentions is to heal and is to help
versus us to get a paycheck or is to get
you to follow our religion or whatever
the case is being able to discern you
know somehow these intentions it muddies
the water up a little bit because most a
lot of people were just like you know
freely receive it and not question it
but it's like oh something is off here
so I think integrity is huge when
walking in the light and being a clear
channel for for Christ right
integrity love you have to you had is
there a is there a level of integrity
that you personally have to maintain in
this dialogue that you haven't with
Christ is there like if you fall below
this level you're just not operating
right I know that the the love and grace
is there for you no matter what you go
through and what you do but just you
operating at this level spiritually for
your own integrity is there a level that
you have to maintain within within
yourself to be a clear channel I feel
like that simply the most important
things for me to be is to be true to
myself other words in other words
there's no room in me
to BS myself once I started doing that
party's over folks to see you later
you know it's because because I'm one
throw on this little piece to work
witness I mean we also have been finding
a lot of comfort and challenging company
reading the work of Ryan holiday all
three of ego is the enemy the obstacles
the way a lot of stoic wisdom and it
isn't the Bible okay so but in reading
what he is presented in his work and the
study of stoicism it's a really
practical way of living life and it's
really nurtured my own soul to that may
not be the big intention around what he
shares we share discuss those yeah but
for me it's like when I read or reread
like I maybe need your ego with the
enemy right now I bring that up because
if I allow my ego to get in the way true
seeker and say you know I'm the one I'm
the one and we start doing the song and
dance
so we'll filter down the pants routine
here then I think people are gonna
people who will run they're gonna run
away hmm I don't know if they will I
think I think you see it that way
because of the level of integrity it
takes to maintain it like a lot of
people flock to personalities and
know-it-alls and things like that right
so there's a lot of people following the
egoic path but I think it's just I think
that God has gifted you with that level
of perception so that you maintain the
integrity now
God will close those doors right of like
the people or anybody coming to you for
help or whatever wants you to ego gets
involved but I think there's people who
are following like these ego maniacs and
personalities and they and it seems like
they have they blow up you know yeah and
and you see that type of thing in any
walk of life whether it's in business
whether it's in religion
whatever politic he's a man of God the
Channel V this it's different
we woman is you know just the bomb I
mean wow this is the bomb
she's the bomb he's the bomb he's crazy
he's just a guru well she's a guru
now why is a guru but something did
probably Allen was if he was alive today
would say no was a guru you know no one
is baby this is what I what I what I
share with people what I do
it is a gift pretty sick it is it is one
that I said earlier say to those
beloved's that are listening you
watching at this moment or whenever they
see it it's it is it is askew that I
shared with the world literally having
people from different parts of the world
experience what they experienced a news
it is what ever you experience during
the Jesus chat conversation or
experience allege caller could you could
you lead us on a in in a conversation or
show us how the process would go if the
if you feel like there's a message for
the people listening today so in order
to so just to make clear which me I may
not
do for your audience just to say it I
tell people in one-on-one sessions now
say this to you through sicker and sees
all of those old people listening and
watching
I jokingly say and when that look Joe
goes and after Jack and cope with Frank
Dean Sammy at the sands about 1960 you
know Joe goes out of me I don't know
where Joe goes
physically I'm here but consciously I
don't know I jokingly say that no I
don't know whether it's true that's a
joke okay but I know that as in the ego
you go oh yeah
so I whenever I do a session with
someone I know you've learned some basic
fundamentals like I will say I quit work
I say first of all relax get comfortable
first and foremost number two when
however long the session is going to be
s they using the messages lasting 10 to
20 minutes then then three you know I'll
say that
all you need to do in my heart you want
to share do so they'll do it with me
sometimes people have nothing to share
they've shared already yes then I asked
a simple question we're entering your
foods and I'm gonna ask you two
questions I'm if I was talking to you
through sticker okay would you like a
message yes
my beloved children I've come forth to
you in this kind of space to let you
know how much love I have for you in my
heart I some I love you freely and
openly because this is the only thing I
have my heart is love for you this is
what I saw openly and freely because you
need to hear this and this importance
you notice your love very much so it is
time for so many that are hurting
anything that fills your heart so much
because you have loved ones that you
want to get well they're not getting
well you have your friends that you care
about and they're sick and you wanna do
something you don't know what to do to
you
it is not anything that you need to take
it but you need to take some stick that
about anything like that it's all my
children and you're a Mitchell you're a
you're a beloved child of God I will
never leave you this is a very important
time in your life because you desire so
much to be loved what the core of your
soul and your heart and your soul
working it you know there is no
separation in them there's nothing that
disconnect your heart and soul is always
connected everything you all are in some
why there's always shines when you came
into this world you were born with a
light within you now how about light
move outward into the world from within
you my child and something that only do
you belong to know and what you can do
to light this place
then you will know what is what's around
you is realizing you will know when you
get your life resonate outwardly from
within you do something something to
people that they can even those people
have no idea that they are loved they
have no idea and all no did they care
about anything about me I love the way I
think and sure
those have partners that are open to
receiving my love I send it to you free
do you think that what you need not
needed because you are loved and the
world needs your light will need your
heart will need your soul more each what
you offer to it never whether you read
many times and heard many times people
talk about this fallen world this is a
beautiful world it has many troubles
many trouble yourself to feel the divine
love I saved you and let that be the
energy of carry within the light within
you and the love within you and carry it
around wherever you go their life will
forever be changed and you don't have to
do anything at all open your own heart
that's a lot of things you come to your
there's so many my beloved yes or even
crossing over into their next last and
it hurts me to see so many people
suffering so much yeah wish that I think
how much they loved and the ones been
left behind to take care of their love
they want it to be well-heeled time stay
in this place my beloved child if you
just learnt love my love flowing here
you will know that a shadow about my
child how much love there is for you
no matter where you live or what you're
going through
you were loved very much so and I send
you my life the words you've read
tribute to me peace I leave you my peace
I give it to you
well one others I've loved you you've
read these words many many times in your
life maybe somewhere you've never read
these words but know that my love you
sense you freely we receive the love
that I send you but you believe in me or
not
it is
Lucian's no thing you happened go forth
into this world and let the love within
you touch others with light within you
my children I will never leave me no
perfect you were loved always they go in
peace my children and know them that you
were always last in your life
Wow that was powerful really good I felt
it I hope is that anyone who heard what
was said whatever you experienced you
experienced whatever you felt you felt I
don't know what was said I'm not play I
have no idea I feel tears and tears my
sweat it out but I have no idea what was
it what do you feel as far as in a sense
of what we would say energy or presence
of God do you feel the anointing do you
feel the fire what do you feel when when
you allow Lord know what I don't think I
can tell you about what I feel is like
like like what is known as the pineal
gland technically or in metaphysical
terms with the third eye like right here
and along here there's a lot of energy
that just is just room right there it
just pours in I don't confirm anointing
I would not use myself well I would I
clearly have felt that after like at the
Indy Indy act like right now like right
here like I need nerves the cold
compress will help please you know
there's some things that you know
there's just a lot of energy to right
there like you feel
so having read some about what that is
physicists say about the pineal or
planned or the third eye that it being
in receptor of
messages like that so I just got a long
article on it yesterday spent a good bit
of the day doing a article on the third
eye and how it's mention of in the Bible
and just what it's used for so it's
awesome you saying that some of the some
of the comments I'm reading here with
the live stream Taylor says I can feel
love right now and says this is weird
bro really strange better feel feel love
like that let's see it's another comment
battle les says I can feel calm energy
in my home and my anxiety is gone
powerful amen
spirit of the tree says beautiful
another says this brings me to tears
it's a frequency change another one says
awesome
so man it definitely what I've noticed
is like you have we have right everybody
has this to be able to the ability to
change the atmosphere whether it's with
anger whether it's with bitterness or
jealousy or gossip like that changes in
attitude a vibration people can feel it
you could walk in the room where two
people were arguing and hate wow
something's not right here
same thing with the vibration of love
and tapping into the presence of God
what is God saying what is this heart
for his people right and when you do
that and you share it and you're an
expression of that it changes the
atmosphere as well and I think that's
what a lot of people are experiencing
that they're very atmosphere of their
home changed when they tapped into this
with you and I felt the peace in the
presence and took me a moment but as I
just begin to kind of connect with you I
felt what I would call the anointing the
Holy Spirit is many were the quickening
you feel the beautiful presence of God
channeling the father's heart which is
love and it was amazing thanks so much
well well your your you're conscious Joe
says you're welcome
I mean Josephine says you're most
welcome into those that have come in on
the live stream where there's still
commenting I think you
I'm glad you receive something evalu out
of it it is I'm glad that those watching
now and those that were watch in the
future and those that will listen to the
truth think of podcast available on
iTunes and other platforms by the way
well well whoever the new experience it
is your experience it is whatever you
feel anxiety be energy what it's going
to come the Holy Spirit when I call the
anointing yeah I don't love well it's
just love man it sounds like you like a
sit like and and maybe we're kind of
running a little tight on time real
quick but you know I gotta say this
about me and music briefly like I'm 55
years old as we're doing this right now
it's your secret and my musical tastes a
lot is so stuck in like the psychedelic
60 I admitted the Beatles Jimi Hendrix
The Doors Janis Joplin you know that
type of the even Grateful Dead that type
of you know there was a shift going on
then a and in my Rose my most
recent blog post at the Jesus chats calm
it I just had a lot of stuff build up in
me after about a month I said I gotta
just look so it is it's about talking
about you know what is one on in these
times someone in the presence may early
May 2020 time we're doing this Cinco de
Mayo
we're doing this on Mexican tonight and
uh and so you know there is something
there is another type of adjustment
taking place I think within a lot of
people yeah and and whether that it and
some people may go it's your belonging
there's no going on it's and and
it's no it's this no it's just again the
extremes and they'll and so for me it
just seems that there's this again this
kind of external adjustment internal
adjustment go on at the same time truth
seeker humble yeah there's an awakening
you know I responded to a comment
yesterday somebody uh I don't know
there's just contrary he said there is
no way there is no awakening outside of
Jesus Christ and it was like give me
proof or something else like I got to
understand what you're talking about by
awakening like what do you mean what
does that term mean to you as a believer
as somebody who is experienced awakening
through Jesus Christ for me I think
Awakening is being conscious and being
able to see God in everything I think
that's when you truly woke as you can
look through inanimate objects and see
the beauty of God in everything all
sentient beings all life every situation
I think that that's true true awakening
of being a to change the shift even as
the message that came through was that
this is a fallen state this is a fallen
world this is dark no it's beautiful
we're in a beautiful place this is like
it's the same nothing's changed it's our
perception the things that we looked at
have changed if you change the way that
you look at things the things that you
look at will change and your
relationship with them I think that's
true Awakening and I think that that's
what's happening go on on a global scale
it's a shift you know whether it hasn't
started in 2012 or what some things
shifted for me around
time but definitely there's an awakening
going going on across the globe well I'm
I'm glad that there's your perception of
it I believe that you know call it what
you want yeah we we are we are all and
and it's hard to you know when you think
about like some of the people that you
go no they can't be children of the
light yes sir
and so you know so does it mean that one
should accept everybody consciously as
if something like I'll agree will clear
by this if someone is abusing you
like spiritual abuse physical abuse
emotional abuse mental abuse that's not
kosher to give the Jewish a little bit
it's not kosher okay it's not cool and
if that's happening to you from a
spiritual standpoint in your life then
do is chanting get out of it you know
you don't need to be in any of you
situations at all never so I just want
to say to everyone watching out there
around the world thank you and I Joe
sing my love just Joe to all of you out
there and just know that whatever you
call it
Jesus God white spirit universe energy
it's all okay it's all okay really
and I'm just very grateful to you truth
seeker for allowing me to come on your
great podcast and great so you just
simply stick with you and your great
audience and just share you know it's
time together
I enjoyed it man um yeah if the you know
I got good emails and stuff and a lot of
people want to come on the show and if
it would have said uh at at this moment
just right now we go through shifts and
phases and stuff and I'm just like if it
would have said Joe Rutland is
channeling raw energy I'd I would have
sent it to the channel in Jesus and I
had to check your website out it's okay
which which Jesus is a channel and
there's the thing in Christendom right
and I checked it out in yourself if it's
the love Jesus it's the one who's madly
in love with humanity and wants to heal
humanity okay let's do it let's set it
up and so I just I love your story man I
love where you're coming from and man
kindred spirits and I really appreciate
what you bring to the table so for those
who want to check out your blog and
you've got a bunch of video updates and
stuff as well there's a video update
about a message from Jesus about kovat
19 your blogs and all that kind of stuff
they can go to the Jesus chats comm
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send out regular connecting messages to
people not if they're not all I'm not
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just for me Joe to those of you out
there that might want to try it out for
a little bit we can do some you get a
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message from Jesus through me for the
world basically about the most important
emotion I believe in any person's life
and that is love it is not hate man it
is well it's good stuff man so before we
go to I just want to pick your brain
about your book a little bit talk about
your book + thoughts so ok I'm gonna I'm
gonna flash it here
there it is people + thoughts emotion
using the facial difference world it's a
collection of devotionals as well as
some essays that getting Amazon by leg
and there is a page dedicated to the
book on Facebook and cleft thoughts you
just searching the Facebook search for
cleft thoughts and there's a page
dedicated to the book and there's also a
link to purchase the book on there yes
this is this this is a sales pitch folks
yes I'm saying by the way but why the
why this book this book came out of a
podcast I do 250 plus episode called
cleft cast I'm not done any episodes in
the past few years and four or five
years but the book came out of some
things I was writing down through the
speaker and had to do with emotion
well-being of children is also parents
and excluding the clefts craniofacial
evasions comedian around the world my
dream is to have a million copies of
this book sold around the world
my dream is have these books in
children's hospitals around the world so
that when parents are there and they
have and they have a child is born with
a facial difference whatever it might be
that a copy
this book is waiting for them in their
children's hospital room and it covers
topics like like chasing those fears
away pushing through tough times
courage facing you moving through trauma
breath word power the human heart
breaking down barriers suddenly about
emotionals it suddenly unemotionally i
mean it it deals with the emotions that
are within like fear shame anger guilt
love peace joy serenity grace kindness
braces and emotion but it's a feeling of
kindness of compassion of this and let
parents with young adults know hey yeah
I mean look this face ain't gonna get me
in movies but I love my face my nose
even this one I'm not doing this way but
you know what I'm good with it and what
I want people to read the klephts
thoughts understand is that any emotion
that comes up around you having a facial
differences okay that you are loved
I say the very end of doing the cleft
cast podcast my outline I always was
every minute counts and you are loved
meaning every minute of life does cut
every minute is that strong guy you're
on earth matters and you are loved you
are loved as you are in this moment in
wherever you are you are loved so that
is what clever it's amazing
and I stand with you in that that's a
it's a great a great vision and I think
it's it's much needed I have a cousin
who was born with the cleft lip and I
also have some friends as well who went
through surgery and stuff when they were
born with it
have you have you heard the comments
that Wendy Williams made about yeah I
mean let me play that clip right quick
for those who haven't heard it it's a
really short quick audio so bad let me
just play this clip right quick so Wendy
Williams has built quite a following by
speaking her mind but she's apologizing
and I think the biggest thing is
she did this weird she grabbed her lip
and pulled it up with the time after
comments she made about Joker star
Joaquin Phoenix infuriated anyone with a
connection to cleft palate issues Wendy
Williams is an apology mode after
mocking Joker star Joaquin Phoenix's
cleft lip the attack on the actor comes
as he's on a roll this award season
Wendy says she found Phoenix oddly
attractive but then her compliment
turned nasty when he shaved off his
mustache she's got a hairline fracture
he's got one of those um what he called
it cleft lip she lingered with her
finger pulling up her lip social media
erupted you should be fired cher tweeted
one dad said I have a cleft lip and
palate so does my son who was just born
her actions are hideous and offensive
what do you think about that her actions
in that was she was she trying to give a
compliment that was just kind of taken
out of proportion what do you think
about that first of all this is not
related to the Jesus chats to let people
know so I'm gonna I'm good so I wanted
to put that caveat on what I'm about to
say I did make a comment in the press
thoughts Facebook page about it but I
will say this about her comments she
wants to get a response from the
audience she
to get a reaction from the audience and
if you listened to the audio itself
there were no like oh like there were no
gas it was all everybody was laughing
you mean so and yes she's Mia cold blood
and you know curtsied and you know
junior flex did and said I'm sorry I'm
working without one of the
organization's you know Operation Smile
and supportin would gain more
understanding about it well okay
I thought the comments that she made a
walking Phoenix for uncalled for
walking Phoenix is an amazing actor he's
one of many actors athletes who publicly
may not talk about their cleft lip cleft
palate issues but I know that whether I
my sense is I'm saying my senses I don't
know right now we really don't know but
Peyton Manning the great and it's a
quarterback for many years with us cold
from Denver Broncos and University of
Tennessee volunteer your quarterback I
mean he he and his wife go a lot of work
with the children's hospitals wherever
they're living down that would live
intended I know what a little bit
I mean Wendy Williams comments were her
comments and she is the one has to live
with those comments I wish that she had
thought but in that environment you know
she she she wants to get people's
attention yeah cuz that could have been
edited how to probably right hey listen
up with them there maybe but I don't
yeah I don't judge there is someone can
get this back to windy William
she starts up a whole nother hornet's
nest about whatever I say but I'm not
I'm not I am Who I am you know I'm a I
don't mind saying I'm a prat the world
this is me as an individual I wish this
oh thought a little more about
what she was saying or doing before she
did it but she has an audience that you
know she has a psycho audience that
enjoys her show she's paid a lot of
money it's in syndication etc so if you
just got caught up in the moment
yeah well that's but but I'm giving her
a really cop out there because if I
because I mean if I was a big-time major
league you know talk show this yeah well
I said something about you know blah
blah blah whatever just to just to get a
just to get a laugh or just to get like
a any motion out of people I I wish
you'd just you know given some more
thoughts or comments for making them but
a part of me is Joe this feels like she
may not think a lot about what's going
to come out of her mouth for she says it
you know and so anyway I wish well I
will say that I'm glad she Mia : I'm
glad she said okay I'm sorry for my
promise but it took people actually
saying hey lady you need to do a little
yeah a little work on yourself there
ain't a sophomore so that's all I think
I'll I will stop there with ya I just
wanted to get your take on it I mean I
stand in the news recently and you know
when they get your take so Joe man thank
you again for coming on the podcast your
website again
Jesus chats calm people can book
sessions with you check out your blog
and your videos and everything there at
your website man thank you again for
coming on hanging out with me man I
really appreciate it and we have to do
it again thank you so much to seeker
Thank You thanks those watching you
thanks to those who will be listening in
the future may you all had a glorious
day or night and every listed this when
you know that you're loved always thank
you my friend
god bless Joe Ruttman ladies and
gentlemen good talk man good talk good
talk being open and authentic man and
that's how you uh that's where the power
is when you're authentic not hiding
hiding what you believe hiding your
truth and so whatever it takes for you
to own up to your story to understand
that your story is unique to you and
that your differences are where your
power lies we've been told that you know
what makes us different is what destroys
us and so right if you're out of line or
you look different you get marginalized
and you get eyes on you but this is
about owning your story no let us keep
sliding owning your story man and that's
what he's done he's owned his story what
it looks like what it sounds like and uh
and and even better that it is about
bringing love to the earth right if
that's your story if that's your truth
I'm for it I want to hear about it how
are you helping people channeling Jesus
let's do it I chant oh Jesus I'm big on
that right I talk about that a lot you
know and it's something that we all can
do and I think it's simple as far as
translating the love of God back to
people what is God saying and whether
you go in through meditation whether you
go into hearing that still small voice
the quickening of the Spirit as the
Bible would call it and you hear his
voice and you speak speak that voice and
that message back to humanity back to
people on a personal level it gets fun
it gets interesting there's other tools
we have to communicate that love
spiritual technologies if you will as
far as giftings and abilities again he
says that it feels like it's a gift
and and the reason I enjoyed it even
though it was a little bit differently
some of you and chat was saying this a
little bit different it was kind of hard
to to get into it or hard to receive
it's that way for everybody just because
it's different maybe it you know he
doesn't come from a religious back well
he comes from a religious background but
it doesn't he doesn't speak to
Christianese if we can say that but you
got to understand that we're all
channeling Jesus what Jesus again people
say well with okay he's channeling Jesus
with Jesus that's not my Jesus that
ain't my Jesus my Jesus do it down with
that my Jesus don't speak whatever you
know you hear a lot of different things
if you're channeling love man you're
channeling Jesus it's your you can only
share with people that which is within
you that which you have received if you
haven't received it if you don't believe
it you can't share it with nobody
all he's talking about people
talking about this condemning God this
angry God which is an aspect of God I
believe that everything is an emanation
or an aspect of God that we see and so
some Christians some believers say some
many believers are infatuated with the
wrath of God their mind is blown with
the wrath of God how he is coming back
to to be destroyer is he destroyer yes
if he's a creator he's the destroyer he
is everything that you can think of I
think it's wrapped up in God man and so
some Christians we would see like a
far-right - this would be like Fred
Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church
God hates gay people God is gonna turn
or burn you know repent the end is near
those people have been with us since the
beginning you're always gonna have them
people they are infatuated with a aspect
of God and that's they've received that
they have a
revelation of it and guess what they
channel it and they share it you channel
it by reading the scriptures too and
just relying the message this is a
channeled message a inspired book by the
Holy Spirit the exploits that these
people did the encounters that they have
with God and you're sharing it some
people when they read it they get angry
God's coming back to destroy destroy
repent you know that's their and other
people when they read it they read a
love story how God is madly in love with
them how God is closer than a brother
that Jesus will never leave you and he
will never forsake you like we're
reading the same book but we're getting
different messages there's so much
within that book that I mean that's why
you have all of these different
Christian denominations and Christian
religions and God didn't say that and
you're putting he didn't mean that and
all these different interpretations but
when you read the scriptures for what it
is man you find out that I say you find
out people find out a lot of different
things it plays off of you know your
upbringing your you know again I always
talk about how convenient that God loves
the things that you love how convenient
that God hates the things that you hate
right and then you find that message
that resonates with you and you share it
you're channeling God you're channeling
that the message that you received what
you believed and it's coming out of you
you can't keep it in you the only thing
is that you put God's name on it and
God's stamp of approval to give it some
kind of instant validity Jesus said this
right Taylor says Jesus came to save us
from the God's wrath amen
so I think that we're all channeling a
personification of that which we have
received I do I think we're really
channeling Jesus of Nazareth it helps to
think that right it helps to understand
that we're creating encounter were
sharing his love and his message and
what he really meant we understand it
but there's other people who share the
raft in the hatred and the bigotry and
judgmental and
leave 144,000 are getting into the king
I mean whatever weird theology you have
that's what they believe and they share
it they're channeling God that's just
what they believe it's all
personification of what you believe in
what you've received if you haven't
received the love and the bliss and the
glory and the beauty and ecstasy and man
just the intimacy of God you can't share
it it comes out I hear people teaching
on Jesus every day mystics and Bible
scholars and New Agers and all these
people sharing and teaching on Jesus and
they don't share on this stuff why
they've never received it I know so I
know that everything that that they're
sharing comes from a different place you
don't know him in this way you know him
in the other way that's fine you know
him in a more philosophical you know him
more of a prophet or a miracle worker or
whatever you don't know him as Savior
you don't know him as the love of God
that's manifested the highest
vibrational form of love that you can
even fathom or comprehend if love became
a person it was Jesus you don't know him
like that
you just know him as you know a good
teacher or maybe you don't even think he
existed there's people with all types of
beliefs and stuff in it it translates
through the messages that they
communicate you know people are I talk
to a good friend of mine he say man I've
been trying to watch bill Donahue and
some of the things he's saying is coming
across and I don't really resonate with
it and he sounds it's like yeah you can
hear the bitterness in anger in his
voice when he shares about Jesus he
talks about Jesus his dialect changes I
call some of these people out that we
you know these great noted teachers
especially in the New Age and the
spiritual communities they are working
to undo the foundations that God is
built through Christ the they blaspheme
that noble name by which you're called
so anybody who is sharing it you can
you're eating of that fruit when they're
sharing about Christ when they're
sharing about God about whatever entity
that they come in the name of if it's
not in the name of love and you can have
a strong message it could be a repented
message of repentance that is out of
love that is out of brokenness right and
we have to respect it that's their
revelation of God and they're trying
their best what they've been given they
haven't received it like we have they
don't know them in this and they're not
any any less of a believer they're not
any less of a spiritual person or less
of a Christian or whatever you title
that you want to use that just because
they don't see it like you but to
understand the beauty and the blueprint
and be able to see Christ in all and
through all and see him in all of it see
him in everyone because he there's a
piece of of him in every one we're all
made in the image and likeness of a
Creator God and Jesus is the light of
the world that lighteth every man that
cometh into the world and to be able to
see that light within other people
that's a seer
that's a prophet they be able to blow
upon that that spark that's what then
I'm like Jesus did it takes work it
takes patience takes being able to see
but uh yeah when you know you can only
share that which you've been given which
has been revealed to you and if you
haven't seen it you're not gonna get it
I'm sorry you're not gonna get it cuz
you haven't seen but you have to be open
and a lot of times it takes hitting rock
bottom like like a Joe talked about
coming to a getting fed up with religion
or a realm of understand understanding
that you uh you have to question
everything you know everything that you
thought was true isn't you have to find
yourself at a very vulnerable place and
many of us find that find ourselves
there and many of us keep going back
there many of us who live there live in
a place of honor ability and seeing that
that's where power is that's where true
the death of ego is is that you know
truth is truth
it doesn't need my validation you know
it doesn't need me to speak up for it I
get to you know and I get to share that
and I get to translate that and whatever
is good in an individual that has been
revealed it's only through the person of
Christ I believe and so love is Christ
will say that that's my revelation and
that's what I share that God is love and
the Scriptures definitely testify that
and anybody who is walking in love
whether you know the name of Jesus or
not you're walking in Christ because
you're walking in love the highest form
like you know love that covers a
multitude of sins love that lays down
its life for his brothers
um there's there is nothing there's no
law against that you can't say nothing
against it there is no you don't mean
that the Pharisees and Sadducees tried
to speak up against the love of Christ
they couldn't it couldn't find any any
you know way to convict him or accuse
him and he was the love of God
manifested to the world Robert says
Jesus was a way show or how to activate
the chakras he definitely taught us how
to walk in integrity walk in love walk
in peace tap into our spiritual
abilities and by doing those you're
activating the chakras for sure
your life is coming into alignment with
faith with integrity if you don't have
integrity
you're not activating the chakras you
let your you have a blockage you got to
work it out if you don't have if you
have unforgiveness you're not aligning
the chakras I like that conversation you
know I mean I think it's symbolic for
every I think the chakras system are
symbolic for everything in our lives our
desires our voice our mind your mind's
eyes cluttered you know I'm saying you
living in a primal nature the lower
chakras everything from the heart down
you're just from the heart down you have
raised your uh whatever you wanna call
it Kundalini the Holy Spirit and you
don't live from the heart space you're
from the heart down but it's once you
bring the love of Christ the love of God
whatever you want to call it you bring
love into your heart space into your
heart center and then you're able to
raise the love and speak the love to
think about the love and to live in it
and so for sure I think that the chakras
are a good represented a good
representation of every area of our life
so I don't think that there's any
practice or meditation that you can do
to align the chakras without having to
deal with the stuff in your life the
lower-level stuff once you deal with it
it allows you to ascend to the higher
levels where the piece is where the love
is and this is where Jesus lived he
lived in these higher levels and he
showed us how to operate and how to walk
in it and through what he did and
following his example it's one thing
just to believe in what he did right but
it's another thing to follow his example
as Jesus died on the cross for our sins
well I guess what you got to die on the
cross as well for the sins of others
Jesus forgave me of my sins well you
have to go out and forgive others of
their sins becomes a lot more real but
comes a lot more you have thought would
you play a role in this you play a role
in it it ain't just some ancient story
that the book is about you you take up
your cross and follow him and do what he
did love like he loved forgive like he
forgave show long-suffering where he
showed ly and that's the whole story I
love the scriptures it's a love story to
me someone else read it and they
translate a horrid horror story horror
novel scary movie for me it's uh it's a
love story you know you turn into like a
person with the flowers he loves me he
loves me not she loves me she loves me
not she loves me she likes me not as
you're turning the pages but in the
scriptures when you read it through the
lens of Jesus as he loves me he loves me
he loves me he loves me I'm loved I'm
loved by the father I'm loved by the son
it is love that is captured the heart of
this wayward one man love forgives
covers a multitude of sins and there is
it keeps no record of wrong come on man
this is the most powerful book on the
planet that they've convinced you that
is a book of religious dogma and duties
and rules and regulations man and and if
you don't know God as that intimate
father and friend then you can you can
and I bid you taste and see that the
Lord is good best decision you'll ever
make is a decision to to follow Christ
and surrender your heart to love
surrender your heart to love best
decision you'll ever make
it'll change your life love you guys
the Lord loves you too thank you guys
for the support
it means the world everybody who
supported my work on patreon everybody
who is supporting my work on everywhere
my book YouTube my meditations
everything that I'm bringing to the
table man working on a lot of stuff
working on some courses ready to take
this thing to the next level and trying
to articulate everything my journey so
that I can share it with you and take
you with me right where I am I can't
give you anymore that that I haven't
encountered so let me go back and
articulate that let me see how I got to
this place of love how I it was love and
how I healing and being in your in
walking in your destiny man manifesting
your dreams and let me write that down
and I want to take you on that journey
with me man
so Robert says true seeker thank you for
your music as well hey thank you being
on patreon I go check it out I got some
new music on there man
got a song called breath or breathe I
think it's breathe it's good stuff and
uh I want to play this quick commercial
man and this commercial is just the
commercial for my meditation if I can
find it one of them anyway which one is
this I don't know if it's the Jesus
meditation or the
encountering the throne-room meditation
but with that being said it's free to
download right now I've made I've made a
good bit of money on that meditation and
selling my meditations is how I provide
for my family and to continue to do what
I'm doing here by buying my merch and
meditations and all that stuff you get
AK you know it allows me to keep making
podcasts and giving stuff away for free
but I'm giving that meditation away for
free the the best one I think they're
all cool they're all awesome but the
first one that I did is like for me it's
just special it's the throne-room
interactive guided meditation and if you
haven't had a chance to get it you can
download a copy for free by just going
to true sticker calm putting your email
list email their join the email list
just to get updates on anytime I release
something new or new episodes and things
like that and I'm giving it away for
free so go to true sticker com get the
free meditation and yeah all the other
meditations I have as well they're cool
so I think there's a commercial here
while so the throne-room Meditation man
this was just like a new level for me of
creating encounter really the process
behind it is going in for myself having
an encounter with the Lord
tapping into the spirit and getting in
his presence and really just petitioning
the father's heart and saying God what
would you say to them if I'm bringing
these people with me here if they're
doing this guided meditation and we're
going through this journey we're having
fun we're seeing things we're
experiencing new feelings and emotions
and sensations what would you say to him
so it's channeling the father's heart
and relating it back to the people so
man it's just a beautiful encounter and
I remember when I wrote the first one I
was so excited about it and it was just
God speaking to my heart I was able to
channel the father's heart and I would
read the script to people because I was
just so excited while I was working on
it
and every time that I would just read
the script the presence of God would
just invade me and I just burst into
tears and I couldn't even read it I'm
just like let me copy and paste it and
send it to you but every time I listen
to it I'm immediately translated back
into the throne room of God and
everything's good there and that's the
place where everything is okay we're in
the scriptures it says that we are to
hide under the shadow of the Almighty
this is the throne room of God this is a
place that we can encounter for
ourselves but this is also a place in
which we dwell so a part of us is always
there and we have access to that not as
people who have never encountered this
before in their life and it's a totally
new experience for them and almost every
time I get a testimony back from someone
they just say how God wrecked their
lives that they didn't know what they
were getting into the next thing they
know they're in the presence of God
wrapped up in his glory he's
communicating his love to them and it
just totally wrecks their lives so make
sure you check out the throne room
guided meditation visualization that I
brought to the table you heard the man
go to truth-seeker calm you can download
it for free and some of the best work
that I've done is in those meditations
and it's a whole encounter in and of
itself and I love getting the the
testimonies back from people people from
all walks of life man we got you know
devout Christians and people who are
really strict about these kind of things
and they're kind of iffy going into it I
don't know about a guided meditation man
you know like some people are scared and
they go in and they come back in tears
there's atheists going in checking it
out there's new agers who have not even
heard that there is a such thing as the
presence of God or the love of God and
they're going in encountering the love
of God and I'm telling people from all
walks of life God is not a respecter of
persons man that's the problem that's
why I think that this podcast is it's
helping so many people is that I've
learned not to be a respecter of persons
understand that God isn't so why
should I be why should I respect you
more because you call yourself a
Christian why should I respect you more
because you have more money why should I
show favoritism listen when you're
walking in the Holy Spirit you are
taking on the characteristics of your
father man you're gonna love more you're
gonna show more grace you're gonna show
more patience and that that is that is
universal it keeps no records of Rome
whether you're a Christian or whatever
you are mystic on a stick whatever it
doesn't matter you could you gonna
partake of that fruit regardless love
joy peace patience gentleness meekness
self-control against such there is no
law come on now hey check it out true
seeker com get access to that meditation
and I got a bunch more as well if you
haven't heard them
there's affirmations and meditations and
voice actors that I hired to play
different roles and there's angels that
you meet and there's people that have
professional voice actors that are
playing the roles of angels and stuff
it's it's an otherworldly if you haven't
heard it check it out true seeker calm
love you guys peace peace hey join us
wednesday got a big interview coming up
now wednesday thursday got a big
interview coming up Thursday
Jennifer Knapp I'm excited about that
one
so much
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