The Christian Experience Is The Mystical Experience | Christian Padron
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pardon Christian welcome to the true
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but I'm doing great let's put drone by
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in a lot and growing up I'm sorry I
Billy not the baby's name sorry man yeah
so you said you just found out about my
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interviewed I don't do this I don't do
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do that but so yeah here we are so ya
know this is awesome that's how I roll
just let things unfold so it's good well
how'd you hear about the podcast so
I went I got some pizza with the front a
couple friends of mine a couple days ago
and we went down to this park and I ran
into this guy and I was in ministry and
we just started chatting and we're
catching up I haven't seen in a long
time and he just I think he started
talking about my YouTube channel and he
mentioned you should check out this guy
true seeker because he comes from the
New Age world and like talks to people
like that about Jesus and stuff and it
was very interested so I just sat on my
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there man it's awesome so you share
similar background as well right coming
out of the occult right yes and in
witchcraft or New Age or whatever and I
want to preface this instead of cuz a
lot of people's ups a Christian who's
come out of the New Age they're gonna
turn it off another Jesus Freak whatever
yeah I want to preface this conversation
by saying we're gonna talk about coming
out of and going back to if that's safe
to say
in some aspect but let's start with
coming out of man what was you like what
were you involved with we're like it
wasn't good like you had hindsight 20/20
I need something greater than what I'm
seeking now like a story man yeah I'll
give you a quick rundown on my testimony
pretty much I you know I grew up I knew
who Jesus was I got a Catholic Church
but I didn't really I didn't know that
people literally like had relationships
with with God or anything about the
spirit realm really
little did I know my grandpa was a sound
theta on a freemason so I had a
spirituality in general in my blood but
I didn't know anything about it actually
uh I got this tattoo let me see if I can
get it it's a tomahawk if you can see it
okay yeah I got that my grandpa passed
and I was 14 and I grew up with him and
I got that tattoo and I was about 20 and
that was right around I started getting
in a spirituality in general and I
walked into a Botanica which is like a
Hispanic spiritual shop for those who
don't know and my grandpa used to make
so my tattoos are the wood in town
hockey's to make wooden tomahawks and he
would make swords and houses and chairs
and all this stuff and I'd watch him
draw it on the wood and then he had like
a table saw and he would go and cut it
through so I walk into this Botanica and
they had six tomahawks shrink-wrapped
like literally looked like my grandpa's
hands made them and I was like what the
hell is that the lady at the counter and
she's like oh there's unto thee a ritual
tools I was like what and I went outside
and called my dad and announced I did
you know this is like yeah you didn't
know that and because growing up I
thought he was just making toys from
kids I have like this memory of being a
little kid and going on Miami with him
and him dropping off a plastic bag full
of these things to a family and I
somehow in my innocent mind I I invented
that my grandpa was dropping like making
toys for needy families oh yeah so so
yeah anyways so yeah I became an atheist
pretty quickly I kind of became like an
angsty punk-rock type where you know I
just hated a lot of things you know I
was angry I've been playing music since
I was 8 and pretty much from the time I
was 14 until very recently I was playing
drums and punk bands and in metal bands
and stuff like that guitar and a few but
usually drums and that was a kind of
what I thought my life's mission was I
guess I didn't look at it as a mission
but it's what I wanted to do was just
tour and have a recording studio and
produce bands and I was doing that and
my bands were we were probably the true
the most popular punk bands in Orlando
at the time um and it was successful and
you know everything was going how I
thought I'd want it to be but I wasn't
fulfilled by it and around the same time
I started taking psychedelics and pretty
much I had an ego death experience the
second time I did mushrooms it wasn't a
good experience but I knew it was the
realest thing I'd ever experienced so I
just like got like balls-to-the-wall
interested in spirituality and at the
same time that I was experimenting with
psychedelics I was studying mathematics
at the University in Orlando and I took
this
course called vector and tensor analysis
and it's all about n-dimensional space
and the first page of the book says Note
2 reader just because you cannot
perceive higher dimensions doesn't deny
their existence so I'm in this class
doing problems about the hundredth
dimension you know and all this stuff
and I'm having these crazy experiences
on mushrooms I'm like alright maybe
there's something I just knew I didn't
know anything so that kind of ensued a
path of seeking and pretty much after
the ego death experience that wasn't
good like I freaked out I got into I
started researching when I experienced
then I got into these ideas of the ego
and higher consciousness and the
interconnectedness and kind of the
quantum physics and almost I guess
pantheistic view that God is just the
culmination of all consciousness and
energy so I started meditating and stuff
like that and like looking at life
through that lens and I ended up going
to the springs in Orlando with a couple
friends and we all did acid and I did
asked with the intention of having an
ego death but allowing it to happen this
time so pretty much we were walking
through the forest and whenever I saw
habits drawing around I was just telling
a story the other day and I there's a
visual that goes with it but um I was
walking around the forest with a couple
friends of mine and one of them found a
leaf on the floor and it's leaf looked
exactly like a face like well at least
our trippy minds but we were all staring
at it together and laughing about it and
we called it the face leaf it was kind
of like I'm sure you've had similar
encounters but kind of like the like the
aha moments that you have on trips with
your friends where everyone just starts
laughing about something or whatever
kind of reminded me of like a Seth Rogen
movie or something like that and it's
been my friend found this leaf on the
floor I was like a profile B of a face I
had like a slit and a hole for the eye
and shortly after we found this leaf and
we laughed about or whatever I put my
headphones and I was like right I'm
doing this you know that thing
so start walking and I feel my insides
just getting lighter and lighter and
lighter and lighter and lighter and I
essentially just had this like poof
moment where I just felt energy shoot
out of myself and then I felt a oneness
with everything on a 10 on acid and at
this time I believed I was having
revelation and and unifying with the
consciousness field my current
perspective is that a spirit entered my
body and was telling me these things but
what I was realizing in that time was I
God is everything and I have to see God
in everything that I have to
specifically like I was having these
thoughts you have to see God in murder
yet to see God in rape yet to see God in
Hitler you have to see God in war and I
was like blissed out of my mind you know
I kind of when you look at like Hindu
deities and they kind of have this
almost like insane bliss look to them
you know that's what I was experiencing
and I had like this insatiable urge to
throw myself on the floor and like rub
dirt on my face and you know I was just
enamored by everything I like fell in
love with armadillo corpse-like
whole whole nine yards so shortly after
being I didn't do the crazy things but
the feelings were there you know so as
I'm walking you didn't put the home
Badillo corpse on you did you know I
just looked at it and I said just look
at all yeah you know I just had a great
love for this armadillo course yeah you
know so I'm I'm walking and then I
looked back and my two friends are
trailing behind me and you know they
didn't necessarily go in with a
spiritual intention they were just kind
of having a good time and I looked at
one of them and he looked bugged out and
I took my headphones out I was like
what's going on but more probably like
what's going on and he said that he lost
the leaf the leaf that we found and I
literally just looked at him and I said
don't worry we're gonna find it and
there was no logical process happening
at this point like everything was just
complete unfolding like like I was just
being moved by a greater force and so
we're walking around this forest that's
the hole
just leaves and after about 15 minutes I
just randomly stopped walking and I
don't make any decisions like I'm not
saying let's go that way that's probably
the leaf is or like I should start
walking here everything's just happening
and I stopped walking and the exact same
leaf is between my feet and I just
picked it up and gave it to him and kept
walking and that experience changed my
life forever because I was like that
doesn't make sense I shouldn't have been
able to find a leaf in a forest you know
especially that like it just happened
you know I'm saying the grand lesson I
took from that trip was that life just
is and you can't figure it out you just
have to accept it and when you accept it
you're liberated so that's what I
believed and that's what I took from it
so I had that kind of nugget in my brain
and so I just was like well if life just
is I'm just gonna go back to my normal
life so I just went back to playing in
punk bands being in a mediocre
relationship and I ended up I ended up
just having like a existential meltdown
all the time like I hit this point where
like on my heart I wanted to chase
spiritual things and learn more and have
more of those experiences but in my
external reality I was just doing the
things that just go into motions you
know I'm saying but then at the same
time I had this ideology that life just
is so it was kind of like a stumbling
block between me following my heart but
I had this one friend who's kind of like
a new-agey - dude and I told him it
what's going on what I was experiencing
and he's like you need to go see this
woman so he sends me to a shaman and I
ended up seeing her every week for a few
months to do inner healing and it was so
refreshing to me because I've never been
a part of a community of people that are
vulnerable and love each other and are
connected for a higher purpose you know
like with the punk stuff it's very
nihilistic and there's a lot of
beautiful beautiful people in those
communities but there's a lot of masks
wearing you know it's like it's rare
that you really get deep with someone
and like someone's like vulnerable you
know what I'm saying so uh
after a few months of doing the work
with her for myself I started studying
with her and I just went full in and I
studied with her for like two and a half
to three years and within that two and a
half to three years I was doing more
psychedelics
I dated a Hari Krishna and I would chant
mantra with her I was really into
Buddhist practices I even read some
stayed in his books at one point like
Aleister Crowley stuff because I just
you know I I believed God was everything
so I want to know about every aspect
that God exactly and so then about let
me think - and her weight and at end of
2018 so a year and a half ago I started
dating my last girlfriend Dee and she
was really in ayahuasca so I started
drinking ayahuasca with her going to
ceremonies and the experiences I was
having in the ceremonies were the same
that I had on acid and mushrooms through
this whole you know because I didn't
have bad trips after that acid trip I
would just go back into that experience
of oneness and more like miraculous kind
of stuff like the Lea thing would happen
but in ayahuasca it was way deeper I had
an experience where I felt like I had
left time and I was face-to-face with
this giant geometric being that was also
personal and I called it God and it
didn't deny that and this being told me
that there's no rules to life but choose
wisely which is like really close to
Satanism but has like a little claws at
the end of it you know choose wisely
like do with that will but make sure
it's a you know smart kind of thing um
so yeah I was just drinking ayahuasca I
thought I have life figured out you know
I thought I was enlightened and the
whole shebang and then I moved in with
Dee my ex and we started having like
crazy demonic stuff happen in the house
and I had had experiences with spirits
especially in shamanism I've heard
spirits hit walls and you know make
audible sounds and stuff like that but
this was way more intense like we would
wake up in the middle of the night
screaming we heard an explosion inside
of the house one time a one one night we
woke up
just screaming and running at the same
time just like wild stuff what's going
on and around this time in my life I
found myself debating with Christians a
lot and I didn't believe in the Bible
and I didn't believe in Jesus as
divinely incarnated but I believed I
liked Jesus and and I believe that Jesus
had reached a state of permanent oneness
and that's what I was striving for so I
always had a Jesus altar in my house and
one night I was sleeping my girlfriend
had had gone to Germany for a week and
while while she was gone I went out I
was sleeping on the couch and as I was
sleeping there was this curtain rod that
was perfectly fastened and this curtain
rod just falls and hits the ground and
wakes me up and when I woke up I just
felt this evil presence like very
strongly and I looked at my phone to see
what time it was and it was 3:00 in the
morning on the dot which they say is the
devil's hour and I know exactly and when
I saw that it was three zero zero the
evil presence intensified and out of
like almost instinct I just grabbed the
Jesus picture I was like Jesus every Oh
help me and when I said that I felt the
most powerful presence I ever felt and
I've had a lot of supernatural
experiences in my life at this point but
this was like holy and righteous and and
it was God like I just like I was like
oh crap you know and after experiencing
oneness numerous times supernaturally
mystically a oneness with all and then
experiencing the specific Spirit of God
the Holy Spirit was very different
because when you're saying oneness
you're saying everything that includes
evil that includes everything you know
but when you've seen the Holy Spirit
you're saying love wisdom truth
righteousness justice you know the the
specificity so when you truly encounter
the personality of God it's a whole
nother animal because it's all good huh
cook there's a call all good and it's an
intense
it's not just like oh I just love you
know it's like what is that but is that
being one with everything is that bad
with that would you see that as bad
though even though it's different I
would say it's not possible I would say
that it's an illusion when people reach
a state of oneness I believe what's
actually happening is there they are
becoming one with a specific spirit that
is giving them the illusion of oneness
because this doesn't make sense to me
like how can you be one with Jesus and
Hitler at the same time you know what
I'm saying like like in full communion
it they're conflicting personalities you
know yeah somebody shared this scripture
too and I didn't know it by heart but I
looked it up Isaiah 45:7 which is
talking about I'm the LORD thy God I
create light and darkness or I create
good and evil so essentially I feel like
like the oneness is like not in a state
of duality but at one like as far as
like the double minded man like we're at
this just wore whatever even though
there is a war right there's that war of
a positive and negative but at all
cooing there is something that is
greater than the war there is something
there's like a game like it's almost
like the war is being played on a game
board a chess board if you will but then
there as a god or that is holding the
chess board who like oh who like has the
rules and everything is okay this is you
you're gonna be black you're gonna be
white okay you're gonna watch you know
what I'm saying it's like the oneness
would be like stepping away from the
battle even to have this higher
perspective of like God's perspective of
like now I can look back at the evil in
my life and see like hey it was
orchestrated like everything that I went
through those acid trips or whatever I
was dealing with was orchestrated by a
greater power that used these pieces in
my life I would say for me that's how I
would see like a oneness with everything
and not just the good like choosing only
the good things in my life to be at one
with four like I'm at one with the
demons of my past I'm thankful that
God orchestrated them and allowed me to
battle them to Allah allowed them to
teach me even to Buffy as the scripture
says so
I don't submit that you know what I'm
saying like does that kind of make a
little bit sense yeah no totally and I
have a similar perspective I you know so
there's a scripture that says God
redeems all things right so I feel like
when we can look back at through a
oneness with the light because the Bible
says God is light and in him there's no
darkness at all right so when we're
walking in the in Corinthians and also
says those who are born of God are one
in spirit with him so one more one in
spirit with the Lord you can look back
at all the darkness and he redeems all
of that and makes it part of your story
right like now how you're using hip-hop
to reach people and you know I'm saying
and like with the explosion for your
harm God will in turn use for your good
like those kind of things exactly but I
guess the difference I don't necessarily
believe that God orchestrates us to go
through those things I think he just
uses it every deems it I don't think
it's God's will that you know let's say
someone is something really brutal like
raped and abused right and then now they
find God and now they're able to help
people that have been through that
themselves right I personally wouldn't
believe that it was God's will for them
to go through that but they went through
it and now he's redeeming it so yeah
that's the way I look at it yeah I think
it's it's the oneness with his Spirit
conquers the darkness but isn't part of
it and that that scripture II reference
to the Isaiah Scripture I looked into
that too right because I remember when I
was more new-agey I would use that to
argue with Christians see God is both
light and dark a lot of people know that
Scripture yeah bro for sure for sure and
Scripture they know but they yeah that
or like when Jesus says like heaven is
within you or something yeah yeah yeah
let that I be single in that whole body
shall be full of yeah
yeah or you shall do greater works than
I oh you know yeah but go ahead so so
you had this and you've had it the
encounter with the oneness with all
things and then you've had an encounter
with the oneness of the person and
presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy
Spirit is nothing for you did was a
notable difference this overwhelming
presence in your house that night then
what happened yes so the rest of that
week I was bugging out bro cuz like I I
had no Christian friends to talk to like
III don't know what's going on so I I
literally I had that experience and I
just went back to sleep and then um
pretty much the the rest of that week
well let me show you this really quick
that's like it's an important part of
this story I'll share my screen with you
real quick I cannot screen share while
you were sharing ok nevermind um so
pretty much the day after I called on
Jesus I was sitting in my living room
and at this point I had already quit on
my band's I renounced the whole punk
life and everything and I was just kind
of reflecting and I realized in my heart
there was a good part of me now because
I had renounced this you know life that
I knew wasn't bringing goodness into the
world and that's what I wanted to do but
simultaneously I became aware of this
dark part inside of me and I felt like
it felt like it was in my stomach like a
lost of pride and I realized that I
wanted to be glorified for being
spiritual like a guru or something like
this instead of pointing people to God
like I wanted to be God instead of
accepting God and thanking God and when
I felt that and within like no lapse in
time I just started bawling
uncontrollably and it was like being
born again like literally coming out of
the womb baby cry I've never cried like
that in my life and shortly after I had
that experience I looked on my ceiling
and here I'll try to show you through my
phone which was over demon no it's
better than that so I had this picture
of Jesus
that man looks like [Â __Â ] I know I know
what picture that is that's a cool piece
yeah like that picture yeah yeah so so
my ex-girlfriend had gifted me that and
I had that picture of him and after I
had this realization I looked on my
ceiling and so that's my drums hung can
see it kind of a red and white light
appeared on my ceiling just like and you
see it oh wow yeah yeah just like in the
picture that's a crappy representation
but it's angled just like it is in the
picture and everything and then I'm
gonna go get in my car to go to the park
and just like pray and like figure out
what the hell was going on and I had
receipts on the floor and they weren't
perfectly in the shape of the Cross so I
started seeing all these signs and the
rest of that week I was straight up
hearing footsteps in my house like right
in front of me like and I've done the
name of Jesus go and the second I'd say
Jesus I feel that same power calm and it
would stop and I was like bro or it
happening so I go pick my girlfriend up
from the airport I hadn't told her
anything because I'm not gonna like
texture while she's in Germany in okay I
think I believe in Jesus now you know so
I picked her up I told her what happened
and then a couple days after she got
home we sat down and watch a movie and
we both heard footsteps go through our
hallway and they were big it was like
boof boof like seven or eight footsteps
and we looked at each other like what I
told you is real and I'd be interested
to talk to about that too because it
sounded like it was like a giant like
some Nephilim stuff and I saw your book
is about that so there was an ayahuasca
ceremony happening that Friday and I was
like I'm gonna go to the ceremony I'm
gonna get answers on this and so I go to
the ceremony with the intention of what
is Jesus Christ trying to show me in all
of this so again my philosophy for
almost six years at this point was that
God is everything so when I would do
psychedelics I would just let go and
kind of dissolve into the oneness of
everything so after the second cup of
ayahuasca and the night speaking it
starts coming on really strong so I
start to surrender and a voice tells me
Christian pay attention not as a ovum
okay so I open my eyes instead of just
kind of going into a trance
and I couldn't physically see it I've
never been like psychedelically visual
person but in my heart I didn't saw that
there were demons everywhere and that
and at this point I had never read the
Bible so this idea that Satan disguises
that as an angel of light I didn't know
that though it makes sense so I saw
these people that were having these you
know blissful experiences and
simultaneously I was seeing these kind
of like overlords spirits that were
hypnotizing them if you will by doing
magic on them and putting spells on them
and things like this and I thought a
demon wrapped around my back and I could
feel it trying to put things in my head
like physically I could feel something
touching my head I could hear them
talking to me and they had this kind of
Joker II seductive vibe almost like a
used car salesman and it just got like
like increasingly more evil as I would
communicate with it and I remember I
looked in the sky and I saw this giant
white beaming cross and the light was
shining off this cross and right before
I hit the earth a dark figure would take
the light and twist it and just like
give it to everyone so you're getting
these half truths in these situations
but you're not getting the whole picture
you're not you're not getting to know
who God really is
and essentially I went through about
three or four hours of the most
traumatic experience in my life
I don't really know metaphysically
exactly what's happening but I was
experiencing hell on some level in my
spirit and my soul the bones inside of
my arm were shaking against each other I
was just like physically like I've had
panic attacks anxiety attacks this was
like otherworldly going like mental
torture that I can't even describe it's
when I actually met a homeless guy today
that told me he died in 1994 and he went
to hell and he said that demons are just
shooting him in the face and like cars
were running him over and he could feel
all of it and so that's like the level
of craziness I was
so after about four hours of that the
ceremony finally started letting up I
got up to walk away from the ceremony
and I just feel this light just poof
just like enter my body and it felt like
my whole body was just glowing like pure
white light like like like a white Sun
was inside of me and every cell in my
body was glowing like I could feel you
know cuz I'm not my I don't have perfect
posture but I could literally feel every
nook and cranny of my body just like oh
this is awesome so I went from like the
most traumatized I've ever been to the
the most power and glory and awesomeness
I have ever felt within was a snap of a
finger which didn't make sense to my
worldview before that because before
that I would have to work to that state
through meditating through doing
practices you know it's much different
this idea that no God is a personal
spirit that will touch you if you're
seeking Him not like some state of
consciousness you have to slow the
access you know um not to knock on any
of those practices or anything like that
right but it's much different to know
God personally and have that interaction
and again this was much different than
the mystical experiences that I was so
familiar with because there was a
righteousness to it
that was never important prior you know
before it was more about the blissful
feeling this was about hey there's a war
going on and people need to know me you
know like like save people you know
which there's something you know I think
a lot about how like we all grew up
watching like superheroes and like Star
Wars and lot of stuff and we all like
identify and root for the good guys
right there's war going on and and
there's something so like it speaks to
the heart so much and that's because
we're in the midst of that you know and
like that's that's true love not just
like a feeling
true love is like seeing hurting people
and wanting to reach them them and give
them the truth and give them the Lord
you know the the Ministry of
reconciliation as Paul calls it so yeah
pretty much after that I do you think so
so I mean the whole the whole deal with
WASC is like to purge right this
planting ceremony you're gonna throw up
you're gonna you gonna vomit and you're
going to have diarrhea you're gonna get
all the toxins and all the bad things
you're gonna have an ego deaths
you're gonna go through hell some people
do and on the other side they see the
light and it sounds like that something
similar that that you went through one
of the worst experiences of your life to
be able to see these spirits and seeing
what you were dealing with and what
other people were dealing with and when
you came out and you was able to see the
true light of Christ is that kind of you
kind of like still got the benefits of
the ayahuasca purging ceremony right
sure sure well here's the thing so III
know I intimately know the people that
do the ceremonies here and I intimately
know a lot of people who are in that
community and there is about 50 ish
people and only me and my best friend
where would you do internet so you're in
Orlando were you as a quest no no
but just for anyone watching I highly
recommend to not ever go there but I
just had a guy horn-like who referred
you to the podcast like who was it there
was a guy named drew banky do you know
that name mm-hmm sounds kind of familiar
actually it's in your area and or at
least was in your area and yeah he was
really uh he spent some time over there
we just did just last week yeah
oh no no and he went to soul quest or
whatever you say stay away there's been
a lot of sketchy stuff in there like
sexual stuff yeah a lot of that sexual
just inappropriate stuff going on I mean
I'm diggin so I think what got me into a
lot of the just being open up to to look
in the psilocybin and things like that
was amber Lyons story from there from
reset Emmie she I think she worked for
CNN or something journalist and she
anyway she had a nervous breakdown panic
attacks not anxiety and she just got on
a plane and went to the Amazon and I
went to see a shaman and it went to a
ayahuasca retreat and not as she liked
reflection like they were like touching
her while she was under and stuff
often yeah and I heard shady stuff so
now there's like a Yelp kind of thing
now now that this stuff is becoming more
popular that people can go on and say
hey these people are sketch man be
careful you know what I mean you can
have ratings in reviews versus like you
don't know any you don't know who where
to go to you just see one I got this one
in Florida man you know yeah you know
yeah yeah totally I actually I met this
gentleman who had experience on
ayahuasca where I tell me if I'm going
like too too raunchy with this but he
essentially was like raped by people
wearing goat max and like straight up
guy and like that really happened or did
it happen like when you know it like
really happened to him like what was
yeah in the States or yeah in Orlando in
Orlando yeah it was like it was like a
really really really small ceremony yeah
um listen we're into you know the
spirituality in the New Age and a loving
light and we turned up we turn a blind
eye to a lot of dark things and even in
Christianity I did a stream two days ago
just because someone who's listening now
messaged me and said hey I've been
learning from all these Christian people
who were telling me that the demons are
just in my head and they're not real
there's no swearing as demons and I just
had a I had stinking thinking and I had
to renew my thinking and in these
occultists and somebody who came out of
satanic ritual abuse who was in these
kind of ceremonies you're talking about
these Christians are telling big-name
people were telling them that yeah these
demons aren't real and those satanic
priests they just they were having bad
thoughts as well and they just need to
change their thoughts but it's like like
your heart I really you everythingís man
there's like literal there's demonic
forces that have personalities and
powers as well and they get in tree and
they stay through the thought life so it
did the thought life and the mind is
definitely interconnected with with the
spiritual life for sure but to say that
all you have to do is change your
thinking you know to you know that's not
the case you got to go through
deliverance you got to go through
therapy they want to come back for you I
come tell my people going through
delivers getting choked out by these
demons oh yeah my man
I've seen it easy stuff you know who I
jump I per is the desiring would I love
the look on Piper yeah yeah I uh my
roommate was telling me this I haven't
heard it from him personally yet but
he's like a cessationist and supposedly
had an experience where he was praying
for someone and they started climbing up
the walls like spider-man yeah I'm a
demon so that must have been pretty uh
those guys are undercover though like
yeah cuz I would list I used to listen
to a lot of paul Washer
and yeah he's a sensation it's kind of
like with the reformed theology and the
what do you call it the Calvinism and
things like that some of those guys have
had spiritual experiences or met God in
the midst of their darkness and it was a
spiritual encounter even though they
don't talk about it sometimes you hear
little stories like that John Piper one
and I've heard I've heard paul Washer
just do interviews talking about
spiritual warfare like dude why don't
you teach on this stuff bro yeah you act
like there's no like the funny thing
with the host is say something and
that's kind of like why I do what I do
is the fact that there's people in the
churches who are having experiences and
they don't have anybody to talk to they
go to the pastor they go to John Piper
and they just rebuke it or say just
change your thinking or whatever and
they're having like demons come to them
at night God is speaking them through
the dream state they're feeling that
empathic they're feeling energies
there's discernment of spirits there's
angelic visitation and these people have
no answer for them but you know who does
David Wilcock you know who does Corey
Goode these guys have all the answers
for you for the Christian for the the
person who's has questions but we're
like telling them not to ask them you
know we don't have the answers for them
so that's why I felt like it's my duty
because I was that young person how was
that person having dreams and visions
and seeing things in the spirit on
people I couldn't turn it off and on it
would let plague me and that pastors
were telling me it was the devil and it
wouldn't go away they would pray against
it but it was like God showing me the
prophetic in my birthright as a believer
and that's a son man and so definitely
may that's why I do this podcast I'll
talk about these things even know how
boo it may seem from a Christian
perspective or from a spiritual
perspective or whether whatever you know
that's our birthright man you know as
sort of sons and daughters you know
totally yeah when I first started having
all these experiences I literally went
to like 10 different churches or
something like that within a few weeks
and like every time I go to a coffee
shop I'd be sitting next to a pastor
when you start talking like it's every
time and I literally I had a
conversation with one of a pastor of one
of the biggest churches in Orlando I
just happened to start talking to him at
a coffee shop and I would told him my
story and when I was experiencing and
the footsteps and like all the crazy
stuff and calling on the name of Jesus
and the New World Order and like all
this stuff I've been learning about and
he literally looked at me and asked if
we could talk about sports instead no
dude I used to ball my blood bro that's
why I do it that's again that's why I'm
doing this podcast well I mean I've done
churches if we wanted to take the young
people and go pray we have prayer
meetings and people are getting
born-again again filled the Holy Spirit
we're bringing people are coming our
prayer meetings who don't go to church
they're getting baptized filled with the
Holy Spirit dedicating their life to
follow my Christ and we'll bring them to
church like man bringing them to church
in the pastor's we're like hey I don't
need to just bring them just y'all pray
at church you know wewe heard you guys
are having prayer meetings with the
youth how about just go see a movie or
like what go see a movie
yeah real didn't this was right when I
came out of the occult so we were like
we're like all we wanted to do was pray
and seek Jesus and they're born so good
no yeah well like tryna they were saying
like we were a threat bro cuz PN would
come to us for a prayer instead of going
to the pastor people would come to us
for prayer instead of going to the
leadership because we were carrying the
fire man you know yeah well I didn't
know that as a young believer though you
know and it really it took me a while to
learn but I was able to see you in my
life and other people too so yeah I'm
doing this too so yeah Jesus said to
love God with all your heart mind soul
and strength didn't say go to church you
know you could love God and you'll watch
a movie too but that's just of course of
course but I guess you know once you've
been through the darkness and
really seen how real it is uu catapult
that much further into God you know sure
and that's and that's something we
talked about too mentioning names like
Stephen Bank ours and Doreen Virtue some
of these people who came out of it and
now they're just like anything spiritual
they think it's demonic you know what
I'm saying that's kind of like the
cessationist people they're in that same
kind of boat anything spiritual anything
other word I talked about discerning
spiritual being able to feel the spirit
as demonic you all of those things and
so for me and I was telling you like
when I came out of witchcraft like I had
I was going insane I was going mad I had
demons pulling me in and out of portals
during the day I couldn't stop it
couldn't breathe it was scariest thing
in the world I'm today it's a blessing
that I'm here today that's why I love
them so much
but when I came out of that stuff and I
renounced it and God saved me I couldn't
be around incense like somebody lighting
incense I had to oak because we would do
rituals and burn incense the pagan gods
and yeah yeah I couldn't be around
secular music I would hear like bands
like Korn or Marilyn Manson song and it
was just like those I can feel those
spirits bro that I was connected with
through the music I had to get away I
did make somebody turn it off or I had
to leave like if I was at a house and
somebody turned it on I would tuck tail
and run cuz this and I was intimidated
by those spirits and I was so thankful
that they that that God saved me I
didn't want to open up any doors or
anything and I'm a lot more relaxed now
you know what I'm saying like I Know Who
I am and and you know that kind of thing
it doesn't really bother me as much now
but right when I came out of it I was so
sensitive and I just everything we know
you know incense is in the Bible right
it needs to burn since while they prayed
and our prayers are as incense to the
Father and the crystals and there's some
things that we would call new-age or
things that I definitely called New Age
or Steven Bangkok's calls New Age or
whatever that is is it in the in the
Bible those kind of things but you had
that similar experience to just kind of
like pushing it all the way and running
as fast as you can under percent under
what was it that you got saved
what year yeah
well I first got born again in 1998 and
at a prayer meeting okay and that's when
I received the Holy Spirit and had the
bat the baptism
I was only only kind of walking with the
Lord for a couple months until I got
even deeper into the occult and then
I've been back since September of 2000
so I've rededicated my life in September
of 2000 with the Lord ever since that's
awesome man yeah so yeah I'd love to
hear your perspective because it's kind
of been the same thing for me like I
said like so when I first you know my my
view of life prior to coming to Jesus
was again God's everything so I was kind
of in this state of like empty Zenoss
all of the time you know like for me
like when I hear people saying how they
have like a really hard time meditating
because they can't stop their brain from
from thinking oh yeah for me it's so
easy I could sit for hours and I have a
single thought you know and like that's
just how it was all the time but then
when I when I became Christian I wrote
that off as demonic I read zen off as
demonic about meditating off as demonic
everything was demonic and I just went
like fool jealousness like everything I
was doing was demonic and everything I
went around means doing is demonic and
they're gonna know about it
so I was just rebuking everyone and
everything all the time and I scared a
lot of people away I lost a lot of
friends I lost my partner you know like
it was like winning people but you're
just burning bridges like crazy yeah bro
would that still remember you from that
like when yeah Ames brought up oh you
stay away from this dude he's versus now
yeah conversation talk about whatever
dude they still think you're that guy
yeah yeah bro and you know my intention
was correct my delivery was horrible and
it makes you think of that there's a
scripture and first Corinthians 8 so I
think and it essentially says like you
know not knowledge just just puffing you
up it's all about noise I have a zeal
without knowledge to had the zeal but
you didn't have the knowledge to go with
it yeah yeah exactly exactly so yeah
so yeah pretty much wrote everything off
on them one day I was uh I told you in
the messenger you know one day I was
sitting on my Bible and I just heard
Deuteronomy 12 and I had never really
read Deuteronomy except for the
scripture in Deuteronomy 10 I think
where it talks about like witchcraft and
divination and stuff like that and like
I was familiar with that but that's all
I had really read so I start reading
Deuteronomy 12 and in verses 8 through
10 the Lord's rebuking the Israelites
and I have a nasb and in my translation
it says paraphrased what we're not going
to keep doing what we are doing here
today and the we're doing is italicized
which i think is really cool like we're
not gonna keep doing what everyone
thinks is right because you haven't yet
entered the resting place and the
inheritance the Lord your God has for
you so it's like essentially stop doing
what you think is right you need to
enter the resting place and the
inheritance
you know just receiving from me and then
you will naturally do what it's right
because it's not in your own power but
my spirit working through you you know
and from that point on I pretty much
started meditating for hours a day again
and it's been awesome you know um that's
kind of gone on and off for me but like
this past week I started doing and again
just sitting in silence there's a Psalm
62 the opening line is my soul waits in
or for God alone - soul waits in silence
and I just did that I just got there in
silence and I was like I'm just gonna
wait for and I started having visions of
stuff that I'm working on now and like a
lot of things that I've kind of been now
do you have like I would say I don't
want to say a ritual but do you do you
like preface it by like okay father do
you do you go in through the Holy Spirit
like father asked you is to take me I
want to love on you on this like Holy
Spirit would you leave me
do you preface it before you go in or
you just kind of get quiet and it's
already like the intention to go in
through God and fellowship yeah other
through Holy Spirit yeah it's
interesting I have this book called true
seekers
now it seekers not us do you know who
Mike Shreve is he don't know much about
him okay he was a kundalini yoga teacher
that found Jesus and he wrote a book
called true seekers and has ten
different accounts of people that came
out of the occult to know Jesus many
different paths some Yogananda disciples
uh psychics whatever you know whole
thing and one of the testimonies in
there is this guy that was like a super
devoted yogi like had no belongings just
like backpack and like would just go
wherever the universal Brahman was
leading him you know I'm saying and he
ended up going to the Himalayas because
he felt like he needed to find a guru
and while he was in the bus going to the
mountain he asked a guy on the bus do
you know where I can find a guru and the
guy just looks at him and says I think
Jesus Christ is gonna be your guru he's
like huh so he's walking up this
mountain and Jesus literally manifests
in front of him and in the book he
writes when I felt the presence of Jesus
I realized that peace was alive like
it's a person pieces of product from the
Spirit of God and he says the peace I
had known before that was the stillness
of death whereas the peace Jesus gives
is the fullness of life and meditating
for me now it's very different because
before when I would meditate it did kind
of feel like I was just going into this
dead stillness like a vacuum and now
when I met it today
there's oh like if I just close my eyes
there's always a subtle recognition of
the presence of God just there you know
I'm like that I was talking to everybody
we did some breath work last night in
the school of the Mystics and I'm like
when I breathe at the top of that that
once I I mean just it's just conscious
breathing I feel his presence like just
when I breathe if I'm aware of it now I
can breathe and just not be aware but if
I'm aware I guess take a breath and he's
just as close as my next breath exactly
exactly and and now it's like my mind
instead of just like the goal being to
empty my mind My Mind's not necess but
in a way I can't exactly
at the forefront of my consciousness I'm
aware of God the whole time I'm sitting
in silence if that makes sense it's more
like my heart is I always describe it as
like I feel like our hearts and our
minds are like a radio and spirits or
like radio stations especially when you
talk about like principalities and stuff
like that right like you turn the
lingual order through it yeah it's the
spirits you can literally turn into so I
always you know instead of getting
because religion makes stuff so
complicated I'm like just tune your
heart into the Spirit of God through
Jesus you know and I feel like that's
kind of what it is like my heart is just
a tune to him so when I go into that
meditation into that stillness silence
the goal is to commune with his spirit
and yeah it's just you know I've been
having visions and stuff from him and
that's new you know and it's awesome I
read I'll send it to you I read a
prophecy I forgot the name of the guy
that gave it but it was on a elijah list
you ever been on that side huh mm-hmm
and he he had a vision when Jesus took
him into an elevator and there was like
each floor was like a different height
of Revelation and Jesus essentially told
him like the amount of Revelation you
get is directly proportional to how long
you wait on me and I was like oh that's
awesome because I could sit there away
for hours waiting lost art man powerful
thing just because this is like those
who wait upon the Lord shall renew their
strength man they were mountable with
wings as of eagles you know they shall
walk and not grow we run and I grow
weary they shall walk in that fame man
that's it I know I probably messed it up
but it's so good just waiting waiting
isn't about doing nothing waiting is
like fixing your heart and just being
with him and say nothing else matters I
don't you don't even have to show up
it's like I just want to be with you and
just get quiet yeah um we've seen some
of the most amazing like move of God
like in prayer meetings and Bible
studies of just getting quiet for a few
minutes you know and just waiting on him
and so I mean when the scripture talks
about waiting it doesn't just it doesn't
mean not doing anything it's like an
it's a I think it's active yeah it's an
it's an active thing and it's so good
man wait yeah man a hundred percent and
it's funny I think you know I love how
the Bible talks about life and death a
lot and it's like kind of like the
occult the spiritual practices without
the relationship with God at the center
of it kind of makes a difference between
life and death like meditating without
the relational aspect just feels like
death waiting without the relational
aspect feels like death but there's an
active miss anything without his spirit
so yes yes you know yeah there it's
spiritual or not like Christianity
without his spirit sucks it turned into
dead religion and Pharisees and rules
and regulation you know yet if they're
not spirit filled and led by the spirit
you know they're not the sons of God man
sometimes God like his spirit faint
there bro it's it gets corrupted really
quick and it sucks like you could be
doing anything but I like watching a
movie and as long as you're in this in
this in you got one with his spirit and
you're in communion he's gonna like
speak to you through the movie bro yes
like nah man there's nowhere nowhere
that you can go that you can escape them
and you're always with them versus
watching that movie without them you
know and yeah allegory and symbolism and
whispering in your ear and it's like
having a best friend or a lover you know
that yeah always with and uh my life was
rocked early on by watching I was at
home sick I got sick and I stayed home
from work and was watching um
Sesame Street I was flipping I was
flipping the channel and I just the Lord
says stop stop on Sesame Street you
don't learn okay Lord I'm just saying
this little light sitting on the only
sofa and it was a scenario of uh it was
baby bear learns how to skate and was
there was a segment and so baby bear and
Papa Bear and baby bear was putting on
his his rollerskates and his dad was
helping them like put them on this is
how you do it son
Oh dad I'm scared I'm gonna fall down
yeah you'll fall down but it's gonna be
okay
but look when you fall I'll catch
you and the Lord's like the Lord is
speaking as this is playing out in front
hey that's me and that's you you're
gonna fall but I got your son you got
you mate you know you you're gonna be
okay he's like eventually you'll be
skating on your own and you'll be able
to skate really good you'll be one of
the best skaters and the Lord just like
Minister his spirit just comes in the
room like you're talking about like
that's that beautiful light of the Holy
Spirit comes in he's like he's given me
a message through watching sesang I'm in
tears dude I'm bawling bro and his
presence is just so strong it's like
what is going on that's all they're just
so beautiful bro it's like no matter
what you're doing do it unto the Lord if
you're watching Messi Street watch it
unto the Lord it does matter man he's so
good bro he really is there's no greater
I kidding I've had so many spiritual
encounters like you have and there none
of them unpair of just a moment of
beholding his glory and being in his
presence bro cuz everything instantly is
okay even though the world is falling
apart much like it seems to be right now
everything is instantly okay yes you
know that's all read out grief
disappears in an instant because
everything is okay his presence got us
here and man there's so many reasons to
rejoice and be thankful I was supposed
to be dead a long time ago so any day
that I have on this side of eternity is
a blessing I'm grateful I'm gonna live
it with gratitude he spared me you could
have died on those ayahuasca trips when
you you're your body is like having
almost having a seizure
you your bright SS were easy so many
times we escaped death death man because
he has a purpose and a plan for us man I
just want to always make sure that I'm
giving the glory back to him you know I
want him to you know he's raised me up
and giving me some kind of a name but I
want to make sure that I'm given the
glory back to him so that they just see
me we was listening to a song today I
called dyin star by Jason Upton it's
like even though I'm elevated or people
think they know me I want to make him
famous man you know I want to make sure
I'm giving the glory back to him and
letting people know you know uu is
asking me earlier like I talked to a lot
of New Agers and spiritual people or
whatever
Christians or people who have been hurt
by the church it's like do I try to win
them over or whatever it's like the I'm
into a lot of different things I'm in
the meditation I'm in the prayer I'm in
all this these kind of things or
whatever yoga and stuff like that and
they're all beautiful in and of himself
but like none of they're all like if I
was to just give you that and end it
there then it I haven't done what I'm
supposed to do like I'm like if I have
the cure but I just give you like it you
know something second secondary to what
can really change your life and what can
really set you free from anything that
you're going through and it can really
take it to the next level if I wouldn't
tell oh if I wouldn't be open and
transparent about my spirituality and my
walk with God in its Jesus you know
people have hitting me up and they're
like bro I pray I meditate I fast I do
Kundalini Yoga I'm doing opening the
third eye exercises I'm doing all these
things but nothing's working
what is it true Sikh I really I read
stuff what is that said bro you got to
you got to be born again man you got it
laughter Jesus and you would think that
they'd said aw man I don't want to do
that but it's okay tell me how I want to
do it I want to give my life to Christ
if that's what you say I want to do it
because I'm looking for answers I want
to do it let me lead you in this prayer
bro and then they just saying that same
spirit the the mighty the the the beauty
and off God shows up and wherever they
are on the other side of the country or
other side of the world God shows up and
they saw weeping crying and having an
encounter of the Living God man who
transcends space and time as you found
out through ayahuasca and less and
things like he's always at and he's
always there man and he's better than
anything so maybe in conscious of him
and bringing him into anything he's
jealous bro he wants to be like man why
y'all leaving me out you know like yeah
if you if you find out all your friends
had a hangout or a birthday party and
they didn't invite you yeah bro like yo
you mad bro yeah I'm hurt I wish I
would've invited I wanted to come man
everybody called me yeah we did I called
you because I know you didn't guys the
same ways I hey I want to come I didn't
know y'all watch a Sesame Street
you really like Sesame Street huh oh man
but yeah man you know and it's so funny
because when you were saying that right
like about having jealousy you know it's
so funny like cuz the average person
would agree that love like God is the
log or something like this but you can
define and love so many different ways
and what you were just saying about
feeling jealousy when your friends leave
you out right in some spiritual circles
they would say well that's not loving to
feel jealousy right but I believe every
emotion has its place in the context of
love you know even hatred like hatred
for people as godly jealousy a godly
hatred agonal yeah exactly so like you
know in the east like if you weren't
invited to your friend's party and and
you were feeling jealous they might tell
you oh that's Maya you have to transcend
that jealousy right and I think it makes
you numb over time and I think again
that's like the difference between life
spirituality and death spirituality and
when you're in in his and in the
fullness of relationship that jealousy
comes from a place of love it's not a
destructive jealousy yeah you know but
if you feel like that's a bad thing then
you're essentially yours numbing your
heart over time and I feel for that
ideology at the same time too right
because if you don't know that there's a
God that you can know personally you
recognize that you're a fallen creature
that there's a defect to you obviously
the only other logical solution is I
have to extinguish this thing you know
which the word Nirvana literally means
like no being you know its extinguishing
the flame you know so so my my prayer
and my heart for for people that are on
that path I look at that it's kind of
like step one you know you die to
yourself and now you gotta get filled
you know because the goal of life is not
to die mm-hmm yeah I mean I think I
think that when it happens to us
obviously I was you know saying that was
like something that God would do why
he's the all-knowing oh he's a friend
man yeah but like for us we I definitely
go through that like
you gotta like examine yourself and
everything but you gotta make sure that
you're not like reading too much into it
you know yeah yeah adding to the
narrative well they didn't invite me cuz
they don't like me or they didn't yeah I
me because I'm too smart well I got all
the ladies so whatever you know what I'm
saying you start like yeah hang into all
of the scenarios are making them up and
they're not it's not even you know but
yes I think that's even a part of being
mindful though oh they just you have to
invite me and were like looking at the
reasons am I the reason that you did you
got to talk to people to be open and
honest about everything just yeah you
just don't call a man don't invite him
and just maybe he'll get the I mean the
church does that a lot to just kind of
go see people and stuff but yeah it's
approaching it from all all scenarios
man but God is a friend bro ditch the
scriptures God is a friend that sticks
closer than a brother now he would never
leave you never forsake you he's not the
one who's gonna leave you out yeah he's
the friend that if everybody goes to the
party or ghosts are hanging out or goes
bowling hey y'all forgot the college
Eric I haven't called Eric I can leave
my house no he wants to be yeah
always thinking about his daughter
continually on you man yeah he's not
gonna let you get left out he knows
what's going on he knows what you're
going through he knows how unfair it may
seem you know what I'm saying he knows
everything and he's he brought you to it
he'll bring you through and being
mindful of that it just makes it changes
everything you know yeah man cuz it's
always like I and I say this so I was I
used to struggle with like suicidal
thoughts of Allah I want to kill myself
and like always being alone and like as
a before I got born again and with those
thoughts like just a lot of it came of
just being alone but when I got born
again dude I was never alone again
sitting in my house it was like I was
sitting on a couch and God was next to
me like hey man what's going on nothing
you know it's like let's hang out and so
all that alone it's so crazy of being
just alone with your mind and your
thoughts are like to literally being
alone with God and being conscious that
he's a friend in like a lot of people to
when they get born again they talk about
God telling them jokes yeah like having
this kind
enlike laughing out of nowhere cuz God
brought up an emotion or showed or said
something funny and laughing and then
like we know that laughter is a medicine
and it's like just the innocence man of
the childlike faith and just that
relationship with your father who just
wants to see you little smile you know
just the beauty of that relation and if
you don't know it I bid you to come into
it you know ask us about it we can
definitely make that happen it is it's
the best relationship ever but I've
never felt alone again and I spent a lot
of time by myself but I was never alone
it's it's hard to explain but it's so
awesome yeah man no I agree 100% man and
I wish I find like I tried talking
people about that so much and it almost
like it just goes one ear out the other
like they can't even fathom this idea of
like knowing God like the second you say
the the word God or the name Jesus it
completely just instantly goes religion
like it's like this conceptual
institutionalized oh you're one of those
people that believe the thing you know
it's just like a label gay people okay
okay so sad you know and it's not like
that at all you know and and I feel like
if people you know I think our theology
as a nation needs to be reformed you
know because like a lot of religion is
about doing things on your own power
like sin for example right it's like oh
you need to stop sinning because God
this and God that right yeah but you
know that the Bible says the goodness of
God is what leads us to repentance
mm-hmm and all says in Romans 8 I
believe he says the mind focused on the
flesh is death but the mind focus on the
spirit is life and peace so the way I
look at it it's like when when we're
tuned to the Spirit of God you don't you
don't want to sin anymore because it's
what's good there's nothing good there
you know not to say that you never do
again but you know it's a god [Â __Â ]
there's that better thing I always
describe it to people was like you know
you like hamburgers yeah you know so if
you got if you got on your whole life
eating McDonald's burgers and then one
day
like the best farm-to-table organic like
fresh burger you're not gonna eat
McDonald's anymore it's like that you
know he's better yeah I was having this
conversation with a guy today he was uh
he was hitting me up and in a messenger
shoutout to D crisis but he was like you
know why am I not gonna sing because
that if I don't like if I don't have to
worry about going to hell I said no you
you said you you don't sing because
you're because of what he did like you
don't not stand because you're scared of
the consequences you're scared you you
don't send because you get to not sin
like it's overcome like the things that
used to you used to be in love with you
know your whole identity changes you're
not in love with you don't you're not
infatuated with sin anymore you're not a
fat you I used to be infatuated with
ripping people off I used to be
infatuated with robbing people bro I
beat people up or whatever I can do to
scheme out and like what man I'm changed
bro my mind don't work that way no more
like when I met you I said okay what can
I get off of him what hours does he go
to work you know what I'm saying like my
mind used to operate I'm not infatuated
with that stuff anymore my mind has been
renewed you know it's so far behind me
that that person was is literally dead
and buried whit Christ you know and I'm
a new creation I'm not that person
anymore you know and that's what BB sell
you're still the same Derek you ain't
changes like yeah right
watch and see what you mean I'm still
the same person you don't know you must
not know who I was you tell me I'm not
the same person like dude we've been
changed you know and that's the thing he
changes our nature and we don't long for
it's not the thing that sucks that
you're not gonna mess up or you're not
gonna slip it's the fact that His grace
is sufficient and it's not about losing
your salvation or if you sinned and you
might go to hell and that was kind of
what the conversation was just the fact
that it's not about what I do it's about
what he did and these other religions
and enlightenment is about trying to get
to God but Christianity the message of
the Cross is what God did to get to us
you know he sent his son who was perfect
and he died in our place bro he bridged
the gap plus he became sin he who knew
no sin became sin that we might be
called the righteous
of God you know what I'm saying he don't
see us for our filthiness you don't see
us for all the wrong that we did he sees
this as his own his children man yeah
your children mess up and get it wrong
and get on your nerves and you still
love them though you never stop loving
them you would never pass them out it's
like the prodigal son look yeah go do
what you want go in the world go
hustling go live whatever lifestyle you
want boy I'm here man when you need me
I'm here
i'ma kiss you on the forehead and put a
ring on your finger and I'm saying
welcome you back into into the father's
house yeah I'm gonna forget about it and
that's what the father is he back in the
nest man and because of that we're not
spoiled brats we're thankful because we
know cuz we've tasted and seen both
sides man you know yeah that's awesome
man yeah and it you know it's I always
talk about like to just the simplicity
of spiritual darkness
you know it's like altum Utley the only
problem any of us has which has many
manifestations whether it be suicidal
thoughts or or not being able to break
an addiction or not having any purpose
in life whatever may be it's always
darkness so you need light to come into
you and God is light once you have light
and means that darkness is gone you know
and to me just like you said like you
know the testimony of seeing how people
are almost effortlessly completely
radically changed that attests to a
supernatural God it's not religion
religion doesn't change people like that
you know it can't
you need a supernatural solution and
supernatural problems you know there's
nothing like it bro literally having
your DNA changed yeah you know dying and
being reborn like being born again you
must be born again and and the old me
died he was uh you know and I'm still me
you know I'm saying I'm still the same
person but that that that that dead
person that you know what I'm saying the
depressed the lonely the scared you know
what I'm saying that that you know that
wanted to rob you he's dead man I don't
want to rob nobody you know yeah you're
reconciled Derrick for sure it's gonna
rot as the devil
Christie says I can't even imagine you
as the old person that you used to be
can't even fathom that you used to do
that god is good yeah you know awesome
it's been a long dumb yeah you know okay
I'm gonna uh if anybody asks has any
questions make sure y'all ask him I see
a couple coming through and I just wanna
ask you a questions here from our chat
Christie just she asked a while ago what
is your view on light language or what
we call praying in tongues speaking in
tongues do you have a do you flow in
that gift do you believe that yeah
absolutely absolutely I when so I didn't
give my full story because it it's very
long but pretty much after that
ayahuasca ceremony where I met the Holy
Spirit I had about eight months because
I'm extremely stubborn I had eight
months of reading every book I could
find about Jesus and the Bible at the
same time so I was reading like Edgar
Casey's view on Jesus I was reading
books and how Jesus was yogi and like oh
I'll just be Christ
exactly all this wild stuff and I also
drank ayahuasca four more times because
I just really wanted to know and then
the night I finally gave my life to Him
fully was at ayahuasca ceremony again I
had the exact same experience Holy
Spirit following me whole nine yards
so I had I've had three extremely
intense experiences with the Holy Spirit
where it literally felt like my whole
body was teeming with light and I didn't
pray in tongues it didn't happen um so I
personally because I know people that
like you know they'll baptize people in
the Holy Spirit and like okay I put pray
in tongues come on come on come on you
know I like trying to get them to do
they don't have you did it for me it's
like yeah after yeah and and that's fine
you know it's like and I think part of
that's just like a human mind wanting to
try yeah it's cool you know and God
bless people for doing that but I don't
I don't think it's necessary for me just
like a way to allow my spirit to express
itself
you know a lot of times I'll just be
like I'll get excited and lunch Nakata
cut someone you know whatever hey you
know it's not often that I'll just sit
there and start like yeah there's been a
few times where I've felt like because
some people I hear it where it's like
they can't even control it like they get
baptized in the Holy Spirit and there it
just just flies out where for me most of
the time I'm making a conscious decision
to do it and other times just like an
expression of joy or something like that
Giovanni wants to know and he's watching
on looks like Twitter periscope are you
a Christian and I don't know if it's
directed at me or you but I like I'll
call myself a Christian just because
yeah I'll wear that badge with honor
so absolutely that's my name too so kind
of uh it's funny but yeah there's a lot
of baggage around that word again right
because when people hear that they're
mine Italy turn it off like I don't know
if that guy see that's the thing that
guy might have turned it off after we
said yes yeah I don't know where you're
coming from
exactly so a lot of people their minds
go straight into dogma and religion and
its really sad man you know because me
ultimately it ultimately all that word
means to me is recognizing who God is
and I have a relationship with him
that's what it should mean yeah it's not
death burial resurrection of Jesus if
you believe that that was the
propitiation for your sin then I believe
you're a Christian and I definitely
believe that yeah 100%
so yeah by definition absolutely is it a
lot of people say you know I covered
this on her cuz I got a long message
from a guy who's been tuned in and I
hope he hope he still listens he hasn't
reached out to me since I addressed it
on the podcast I got to be careful with
that but he was just like ye you know
you I like what you're doing but if this
the Christian stuff is gonna run people
away and you're gonna like bro like what
you want me to give them like this all I
got ain't got nothing else I'm a
question bro I'm a follower of Christ
I'm a devotee of the Lord Jesus Christ
like what else do you want that's all I
can give you anything else is I'm gonna
be lying to you I'm gonna be an you a
half-truths cuz I want you to accept me
I want you to listen longer I want you
to
like I want you to subscribe want you to
buy something know the truth man the
truth is is Christ and take it or leave
it but you know what a lot of people are
accepting it and there's a lot of people
who want to know and there's a lot of
people who are hanging around yeah a lot
of people who are they already have a
relationship with Christ and they're
with this day there's no frame of
reference in the church realm to have
this conversation
we'd have been having this conversation
at church but they would have ran us up
out of there dude yeah but the thing is
that's your story man yeah
your story is not their story yeah my
story that's your story and you own it
bro and be unashamed about it whatever
that is and wherever you go you know own
it and and never be ashamed of the
gospel man you know what I'm saying what
he did for you and that's what we need
to be in and even those people who come
on here who don't have that this isn't
their story this I still love them worse
that we grow together I never said we
slept together you know love at the end
of the day is the key Jesus is love man
that his name isn't even Jesus like I
said we talked like yeah yeah sure we
call him that or whatever Immanuel he
responds to that yeah but he is love man
and if you if you I was talking I did a
consultation with a woman today and she
said uh she wanted to know about the
Jesus thing is she's trying to get back
into it she hears me talking about Jesus
and she wanted to do a one-on-one and um
just like do I
she's like she was asking this you need
to ask Jesus into your heart to be saved
do I need to ask Jesus into my heart to
go to heaven and it's like I know we
look at it from like the whole religious
thing of asking him into your heart and
like literally doing it we do that we
did it the other night we're doing
prayers over our hearts and Jesus come
live in my heart well in my heart
changed my heart you know in the
scriptures is clear he will he'll give
you a new heart yeah but it's like if
that's too religious sounding for you
you need to ask love to come live in
your heart yeah ask a look what is the
opposite of love hatred bitterness chaos
Envy anxiety like ask yeah love should
come live in your heart without love
you're gonna live in a whole lot of hell
I'm not gonna be asking about Hell on
here too
like I'm not I'm really not concerned
like people dying and going to hell I'm
concerned about the people who are
living in Hell right now on your under
percent understand utter darkness like I
got what you need right now you know
what I'm saying and and you go carry it
to the afterlife yeah but it's for total
a day
it's further now man that you can
experience the Bliss in the depths of
heaven today man so that's what I'm more
concerned with that but I really believe
that yeah we need to ask Jesus into our
heart or we need to ask love to come
into our heart and and you know what I'm
saying and I'm definitely big on that
yeah for sure and you know with the
whole whole thing like with my
background in the punk world a lot of
people were so cynical about Jesus and
God and heaven and hell on the whole
thing because they've been told so many
times a good corner hell and they're
like crap it's funny I just reactivated
my Instagram and I have a picture from
back when I was in college standing next
to a lady holding a sign says you
deserve hell and I'm like making fun but
yeah man and it's like at the same time
a lot of those same people are suffering
from depression and they're suffering
from anxiety and the suffering from my
do you know suicidal yeah a bro and it's
like you're in Hell already you know but
it's unfortunate because we're so overly
intellectual as a culture that we have
that we have just like oh that that
stuff's normal like having anxiety and
depression as a plague on Who I am I'm
yeah yeah we've gotten good at being
tired at being yes
you know you um said malnourished and
you know I'm saying you don't have
vitamin deficient
we're normal this is the new Newman
we're normal we don't know that there's
something else
yeah yeah and it's beautiful you know
and that's that's why I love testimony
men like hearing like who used to be and
how you've been changed you know like
anyone regardless of the spiritual
belief or disbelief should be able to
rejoice at a story of a person coming
out of darkness into a new life you know
and that's when it really touches people
showing like no this thing's real this
thing works
yeah that's the only proof I need you
know what I'm saying that he exists it
was all this all this stuff where he
never existed it's a fairy tale they
made it up yeah I got a life of
addiction and sin that would claim
otherwise you know that's the old proof
that I need when I was at my lowest and
I called out to God guess who showed up
Jesus Buddha would have showed up I will
be a Buddhist today if Gandhi was showed
up I've followed his tradition but when
I was at my lowest bro it was Jesus man
and I owe my life to Him you know that's
my foundation and the guy told me he's
like yeah sometimes you got to leave
your foundation and add to it my
foundation is my found a it's the best
foundation and so sure your foundation
yeah it is the the corners don't like no
whatever everything you can't that can
be will be shaken no but whatsoever it's
built upon that foundation will last and
that foundation is love and love is the
person of Jesus Christ and that's how I
know it that's my ninja into all of this
spirituality and meditation and astral
projection or whatever you want to call
like it's to him he did it you know so
we could do it yeah you know that was
awesome and it gave like and while I was
trying to touch on earlier just the
whole thing was like you know the
Baptist kind of thing is like we've
given the New Age all of the cool
spiritual technologies the out-of-body
experiences pray and seek talking to
angels like bro that's all in the Bible
man like the prophets the disciples
Jesus they were doing it and then they
continued to do it well how hard why is
it now dead for the believer but alive
for the New Ager and for the the
Satanists they get to do these things
but we don't ya know so we gotta be we
gotta have an answer for these people
who are having these experiences man and
it's not to demonize them it's not to
rebuke oh man it's it's to hear their
story and see where they're coming from
you know 100% find out that middle
ground you know what's true in this yep
any more questions I know everybody's
getting into the hell discussion going
back and forth Courtney says what are
your thoughts on Christ consciousness or
the New Age image of Jesus which I think
you
described it a little bit but going back
to some of the it's I think it's a
shallow Jesus you know I think it's if
there is a true Christ consciousness if
I must use those terms it is it is the
tuning in to the person of Christ
because Christ is a person not a
energetic state he is a person and he
talks to you like a person and if we
think about it as human beings right we
all want love and relationship you know
if the goal of life was to just reach
some sort of inner state of heightened
awareness that's so just bland I want
like a dynamic relationship with a
personal awesome funny fantastic wholly
powerful God you know and and that's how
it is he talks to me you know like he
tells me that go places and and I go to
the place and I meet a person and then
like a crazy thing happens and God just
moves and you see people get set free of
darkness and and all sorts of stuff that
it's it's fun it's awesome
you know whereas what I believed before
just like kind of coming into this inner
state there's an emptiness to it you
know I wasn't fulfilled wasn't filled by
that and so I think it's a I think it's
a big deception and if anything would
attest to that I think could be the fact
that Oprah is promoting it there's a
question here that I want to want to
address
Astrid just posted she says I went
through a delivering session and I can't
stop coughing now how long will this
last I was told that demons go back to
when I was like 14 I'm 31 now I just
want to ask you did they tell you to
cough to get rid of the demons just let
me know that first before I can really
answer that did they tell you that
coughing gets them out of you I want to
know that before I answer but yeah dude
that's a you know we I think they stole
from us bro you know Christ
consciousness stuff the Christ
consciousness stuff the spirituality the
spiritual side of Christianity
yeah one of my most popular videos is a
Christ consciousness video but but I
said it says Christ consciousness
explained from a Christian a biblical
perspective and I pretty much just said
I pretty much just said that the renewed
mind have the mind of Christ it's yes
consciousness so you got these people
who don't know Christ
it's Jesus the Christ right they don't
know Jesus Christ and they're trying to
tell you how to attain or what Christ
consciousness is but they don't even
know the Christ yes why did that video
and in his basic is nothing really deep
for some people is deeper because
they've never heard how simple it was to
yeah the renewed mind is literally
Christ consciousness that's ours we're
taking it back
so I kind of it's sad man cuz it just
shows that when people are seeking for
that this impersonal kind of self
focused spirituality this attainment of
self it just shows that they don't know
how much their Creator loves them you
know it's sad like that God is a
personal God he's also imminence and he
has an invisible energetic quality of
course he's transcendent but he also has
a personality and he loves you with a
radical radical radical love and if
we're missing out on that when we're not
seeking a relationship and relationship
is way more fulfilling and self focused
it's great job yeah I mean even with in
the Bible in the New Testament he says
look I no longer call you servants I
call you friends ya know long as he's
serving cuz go ahead finish it I say
he's friend he's dad he's Lord yeah well
it says also too it says that a servant
doesn't know the the Masters plans like
he doesn't share like the insights of
the family business ya know what I'm
saying he doesn't let them know and let
them in on certain things you can only
you can only come so far but as a friend
I could be open and honest and tell you
what I'm going through my story I want
to listen I want to know I no longer
call you servants I'll call your friends
um a stir it says that uh talking about
the breathing powder or whatever the
coughing or whatever through deliverance
we've got into things of like coughing
and
and things like that too going through
deliverance but I will say sometimes it
can get out of hand yeah and you don't
want it to get out of hand where you're
like continuing to cough that's
definitely not of God I had I had a
friend of mine who they told him that
that's how demons came out he went
through deliverance in any time he heard
a good word he would call he would just
start hacking it became a thing in
public he'd just start coughing uh he'd
say I'm hacking up demons and he just he
just anywhere and it was like it got to
be just really weird thing and sometimes
it comes out we know that this spirit is
numa and breath and things like that but
if it's not a hand I don't think that
it's supposed to be like that let me
just play for you right now me and let
me and my friend Christian here pray for
you right now that that any of those
doors will be closed and your mom you
said your mom prayed for you as well but
we're gonna pray to just because we we
love Jesus about that thing for my
friend Astra god I pray that you close
any of those doors that are open God any
of those thoughts that she's having and
those demons they want to act like they
want to keep coming in and out and back
and forth father the door is shut though
you said that you're able to shut doors
that no man can can shut you're able to
open up doors that no man can open
father we pray that those doors to the
demonic realms God some of the things
and spiritual soul types right now be
shut by the blood of Jesus Lord we thank
you for your word we thank you for the
blood of the Lamb and the word of our
testimony father that our friend is a
new creation a new creature in you and
all of those voices all of that trauma
will stop and she'll be totally new from
the top of her head to the soles of her
feet Lord let her experience your
presence father I pray whenever those
demons move with those demons show up
father that you come in Lord where the
enemy comes in father you were like a
flood you will raise up a standard Lord
you'll come in with your presence and
your pieces just for be reminded of your
goodness I pray in Jesus name and then I
saw that in Lord I also just speak life
over her lungs over her whole
respiratory system gotta ask for your
peace to fall upon her right now that
your Holy Spirit will fill every every
cell of her whole respiratory systems
give
brand-new guns right now in Jesus name
God ask that your blood the blood of
Jesus we just washed all things over her
that should be completely renewed and
that would be there be no foothold for
the enemy you'd break all that off right
now
in Jesus name Amen amen and I want you
to do this with me to Astrid and anybody
else listening you just want to
experience the peace of God just take a
deep breath in through the nostrils
peace of God
release release right now Jesus name
peace of God anytime like I was saying
even at the beginning you want to feel
that peace he's as close as your next
breath just do that conscious connected
breathing taking a breath and expect to
feel this presence expect to feel this
warmth this glory it you'll never leave
you
you'll never forsake you and so just do
that and already he says wow thank you
so much both of you you walk yeah yeah
mr. Cubano this is kind of a random when
this when I seen but I just what I don't
know if they're talking I don't even
know where this is coming from but it
says what did the et look like I'm not
brave enough to try to call them up lol
I don't know what that's in reference to
maybe I'm even behind I don't know maybe
maybe should rephrase it cuz I don't
want you to be responding to somebody in
chat and we read it as a question yeah
yeah ask it again I'm sorry but um but
yeah everybody saw my Dan Duval which is
a deliverance minister I got it's
awesome you like him yeah and I messaged
him a while back I'm friends with him on
Facebook I need to uh I'd love to have
him on yeah love to have Dan Duvall on
yeah he's big into the getting rid of
the demonic and things like that yeah
yeah his ministry is great man and you
know I wish I would have come across
this kind of stuff
but before you know people that like
like you said you know the New Age is
just kind of like taking all the fun
stuff from from Christianity left it
bare yeah man um it's a
it's there's a lot of people man ya know
like I told you in chat like I mean
there's a lot of like you know this is
my ministry you know I'm saying like and
people who don't know Jesus like I know
I'm like I'm inviting them in for the
first time but then there's a whole
bunch of people listening and they
resonate what everything we're saying
and we're just preaching to the choir
you know their questions they're
believers and that we're speaking their
language and so there's kind of two
houses there there's the the Christian
who really doesn't have a tribe they
don't really have a safe space to
explore or talk about some of the taboo
things that we've been discussing
tonight and then there's the person who
doesn't know Jesus and I'm just inviting
them to you know taste and see that the
Lord is good you know and I'm interested
in all of these subjects and there's
nothing that I don't want to talk about
or can't talk about as a believer they
think that there's things that you can't
believe what you can't talk about I
remember some time ago seeing posts on
Facebook people were sama you can't be a
Christian and be into astrology I'm like
you wanna bet
you can't be a Christian to be and smoke
weed I don't but wanna bet I know plenty
Christian through smoke weed you know
I'm saying you can't be a Christian and
do it you you mean you you did not I
don't get in to this thing of
Christianity because I meet your
expectations or your standards I'm in
because of what he did and shout out to
my homie Dan Oscar Penske but he said it
years ago and I just always repeat this
you didn't let me in so you can't kick
me out you know you can't kick me out
because I believed in you and we're
demon all that stuff the majority of
that stuff is even in the Bible we just
never knew it or maybe they knew it
early on and we're just now returning
back to it a lot of us feel like we're
stepping into new things with the Lord
he's doing a new thing I was like I
don't want nothing new I want what they
had like they had some really cool stuff
I don't need anything that's not in the
Bible or whatever like you just go back
and show me because those were some deep
individuals bro so they were super
spiritually advanced and really homeless
on the earth people grow isn't there a
verse or something where I kind of speak
against doing astrology specifically and
then there's also the like the the verse
that says like no sorcerer will inherit
the kingdom of God and stuff like that
like what's your perspective well again
it goes back to what we were talking
about earlier everything comes back to
your intention it's like why are you
doing it God put stars out there for
signs and seasons yeah yeah they're
gonna tell you like that's what that's
how we know what what the day is is
because of the Stars we know when the
new moon is we know when to plant the
Israelites followed the the moon phases
and cycles when they should rest it was
a Sabbath that it was going to be what
every every seventh day and every new
moon they would rest into a savage so
and in even when you look up the word
prophet in in the scripture it also
translates to seer and in Samuel was a
seer there's many seers in the Bible
Sears or stargazers you know the first
people who showed up at the birth of
Christ how did they follow how did they
find him they followed his star stars
sure he followed the stars in the Magi
astrologers they were the stars were
telling his story it wasn't the pastors
that showed up wasn't the preacher it
was the stargazers when he first was to
show up and welcome to Messiah to the
earth so the whole thing with the
astrology was rebuked definitely because
because their hearts weren't in it
because they could because they could
use the tool without God any more we
exactly God as I was gonna say the
astrologers were guess who else was
rebuked the worshipers he's like songs
when you sing unto me it's gonna be like
clanging cymbals I'm not gonna hear your
songs do don't we still worship we
listen you know that scripture that is
what the rebuking the worshipers yeah
let me see we can find it yeah see yeah
and for me with the stralla G you know I
finally like the more I just walk in
faith that the things I do line up is
straw astrologically like I'll hear a
friend of mine talk about something
that's happening at space geologically
and I'm like oh that makes sense with
what has been happening in my life you
know and it's like I feel like if we if
we put too much emphasis on those things
we're operating on a soul level like on
a mind level instead of a spirit
Amos 5:22 says even though you bring me
burnt offerings and grain offerings I
would not accept them though you bring
me choice fellowship offerings I would
have no regard for them away with the
noise of your songs
I would not listen to the music of your
harps it's like look your hearts aren't
in it I mean that's why Jesus ran the
money changers out of the temple hey I
don't have it I don't have a sacrifice
you can just buy one week when we get
there this is buy one it's a hold on
you're supposed to raise this animal
you're supposed to carry it with you you
know you're supposed to feed it and then
you're gonna you're supposed to bring it
during Passover or whatever they were
celebrating and you're just gonna buy
one when you get here no you like you
you've missed the meaning of it so
anytime again that we're doing any of
these practices without him everything's
demonic without him without his spirit
without love without doing it for the
right it's all the Bible people read the
Bible at to their own demise because
they're now they're not illuminated with
the light of the Holy Spirit when they
read it they have it makes no sense it's
and I told I'll tell people I mean this
makes perfect sense the Bible is the is
the most beautiful love story ever
written it's about God coming to save
humanity and sending his son and he's he
loved us so much that he redeemed us he
didn't want to leave us where we were in
our fallen state because we sinned
against him it's a love story but for
some it's all it's a horror novel -
horror story if you don't heed the
warnings if you keep sinning if you just
stay in your sin you know your your
demise you will be destruction you'll
end up in demise but for those those of
us who listen to the Spirit we repent we
change our lives we try to do better we
try to help people we do arms we do good
deeds and we do it from the right place
like they're like those are those things
are eternal they live on forever and and
so everything in like the Holy Days like
keeping Passover and all of these solemn
assemblies the feast days they're
beautiful the Sabbath's all of those
things were everlasting covenants that
God would always honor but then
once the people were doing it but the
hearts weren't in it he rebuked
everybody like anything you can think of
the like in the Old Testament God
rebuked it I don't want to keep your
your holy days I'm not gonna show up
you're doing this you're doing that I'm
not there I don't want you to do that no
more but again we continue to sing
praises we continue the same songs
that's about reading them in the reading
that in its context in its proper
context like God created is the Stars
and the Sun and all is for signs and
seasons and and and and that's what
that's what they were they were
stargazers man they were yeah and I know
the the the four animals in the throne
room in Revelation are the four corners
of the zodiac yup I believe before
living for sure yeah yeah they're all
the four fixed signs of the zodiac the
head of a man the head of a an ox a bull
and an eagle I believe is the last one
but there are the four when you look at
the zodiac that's the thing like the
zodiacs in the Bible and that but it
doesn't use that word because that's a
Greek it's Greek and we're reading the
Hebrew Hebrew Scripture what you know
what it calls it in the Old Testament
right no the mazzaroth it's called
Nazareth and it caught in it it's
talking about how God has seasons and
cycles that the mazzaroth brings in it
talks about Orion it talks about the
Pleiades it talks about the bear I could
talk about all these constellations and
how they go that the Sun makes its way
through the houses of the zodiac so like
in what God created as good man we're
the ones who corrupt things and we use
it to sell things to people or try to
tell you for just like you're trying to
use these things so you don't need God
anymore and that's what I was thinking
too like in context you might have just
been rebuking people that like you're
saying to me I'm with dad like
channeling spirits seeking angels and
disembodied souls like we have direct
access to the Father to the one who made
that holds this existence together
without him we don't exist we have
direct access to him but we're like you
know what I want to go talk to the last
spirit that lived in this house that's a
slap in the face yeah come on dude like
it's full
you know what I did to like give you
access like I had to give up my son he
became a man and and dwelt amongst you
when you killed them you killed him he
was perfect he was pure he was holy you
killed him but I did it because I loved
you like I wanted to I wanted to break
down this religious structure that you
guys have created that was never my
intention I have to destroy it you know
have to break it down so now we can
boldly come before the throne of grace
you know so now like we can a channel a
channel the Holy Spirit a channel the
Father's heart father what are you doing
what would you say to them father yeah
my love them tell him I died for him
tell them that I'm gonna make all things
new tell them that this it's not over
that they still have hope tell them he's
like this relationship your time I hear
in his voice this channeling yeah people
are doing that with disembodied spirits
they're doing that with elementals you
know they're doing it with all kind of
other thing and it really is a slap in
the face and the Lord warned us don't
consult mediums don't consult why see
what why seek the dead on the behalf of
the living like yeah you can go straight
to the they dead they had they chance
they're not here anymore
they're on the other side you know quit
trying to go to them for secrets they're
lying disembodied spirits and so you
know we can go directly to the Father
and if you go to the Father and he sends
an angel he sends a messenger I'm cool
with it but you got to make sure you
going directly to the Father for that
stuff don't go don't try to open up a
portal or go because any other gate that
you enter in through you're a liar and a
thief
it's what the scripture says and we if
we're going through the narrow gate
because there's a there's a there's a
lifestyle there is a integrity that you
must walk in if you're gonna be danced
on in both realms you know what I'm
saying you're gonna be casting out
demons if you're gonna be helping people
work through trauma these that you
become a target you get a target or you
cast out a demon out of somebody you get
a target on your back so if you ain't
done the inner work if you ain't walking
with Christ your days are numbered jack
yeah I'm telling I'm not playin I get
under the anointing talking about this
you know and I'm playing I got
experience with this they like us they
don't play fair we think it's like even
playing ground everyone has their turn
no they want you're so broke they want
to know what it feels like to possess a
human being bro they want to know what
food tastes like again they got to have
a host they want to know what chicken
tastes like well guess what they gotta
have a body
let them possess a body they can use you
and control you and influence you and
they want to know what you know chronic
masturbation feels like they want to
know what rape feels like you got to
have a body they got to have a host come
on man you gotta protect your neck out
here come on man
and then you gotta take that get fired
up man go ahead no no I feel you a
hundred percent and I think it's you
know that's a very toxic thing about
modern-day spirituality with it's just
like oh it's just the universe and it's
just you know love and light and all
this stuff but you know and and again
like I said earlier there's there's a
big when people say love I always ask
them what do you mean by that you know
because there's a big sword with that
and the biblical love which is the true
love you know Jesus came to bring a
sword not peace you can't divide between
good and evil and you know the Bible
says that you know the fear of the Lord
is the beginning of wisdom and in
Proverbs 8 it says the fear of the Lord
is to hate all things evil like part of
love is hating Google you know and again
you know like I said I used to believe
that that love was just like
transcending that duality and seeing
that it's all good but that's not true
you know like love calls us to act love
calls us to be righteous and yeah to
stand up justices right yeah and there's
there's like righteous causes out there
that aren't even Christian but they're
noble because God writes his law in our
hearts and they speak up for those who
can't speak for themselves I mean look
at like Peter and even though I'm and oh
that's a extreme example but they're
like speaking up for those who can't
speak for themselves like some of the
the vegan movements and things like that
is speaking up for animals and things
like they got a uh there's a righteous
cause even within them I'm not saying
that these righteous causes don't get
i jacked and he get misconstrued I mean
look at Christianity which should start
out as a righteous cause which has
become all you know it was all kind of
been the laughingstock of the world you
know what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah and
oh you know I so you saw that last video
I posted where I kind of started talking
about the real dark stuff like the
Illuminati and the Luciferian agendas
and stuff and I've had some people I try
talking about that stuff and they just
shut off and they're like that's so dark
like why do you want to focus on that
and you know it's not about because
there's definitely you could have to go
down that rabbit hole and get stuck in
darkness and hopelessness and it's not
about that but you got to recognize the
darkness if you're really gonna walk in
the fullness of the light and like we
were saying earlier that's part of the
reason that the Christian Church is so
ineffective is because they don't look
at the darkness like the churches are
the ones that should be talking about
the Illuminati and they're the ones that
should be talking about prophecy and how
it lines up with Luciferian agendas
going on all around us but they're not
they don't doesn't find out a lot that
stuff is that kind of recently or I'm
looking into that yeah so I was I was
even way before I got into spirituality
I had this office job and I would just
like go on Reddit and like read the
conspiracy theories but we're not gonna
have any rich oh man um probably like
2012 or 2013 some like that and that's I
didn't have any spirituality to lean on
it just made me really paranoid I
remember I would walk outside and see
like planes doing chemicals my god I
freaked out yeah but when I started
having these Jesus experiences I started
reading a lot of books on the New Age
and hot sides into the New World Order
and the whole spiritual element of it
and stuff like that so I've really dug
deep into it in the past year I would
say I've really like acquired like you
know learning about the fact that the
United Nations is linked up with Lucius
trusts with which used to be called
Lucifer publishing company you know the
Denver Airport murals and how it ties in
with the the prophecies in the
scriptures and all that stuff so yeah I
uh I spent a little while
to the conspiracy stuff which is really
big right now it's really big right now
especially with what's going on in the
world and not and I've made it a point
to stay away from it right now yeah well
you know what I say that I think the
Lord had been speaking through me the
last couple weeks because I've been like
preparing people like yeah but there's
several streams that I've did I even
titled like the problem with conspiracy
theories and while we need to be careful
the Scriptures just think on these
things whatsoever is pure whatsoever is
just what so ever is noble whatsoever is
of good report think on these things not
these endless genealogies and and myths
and fables it talks about that we get
caught up on for a good reason because
that stuff gets in your mind like
whatever you it's garbage in garbage out
like the things that you're entertaining
it changes your worldview like you're
saying like you started seeing it
everywhere you sort of seeing the
symbolism everywhere you started seeing
planes and noticing chemtrails and
noticing how buildings were built and
you know the structures and pure and
triangles everywhere you starts having
an trained eye for that and that's why
and there's a bit of paranoia that even
creeps in with it and that's it's
because of that like it's always the
what-ifs it's always the you know not to
trust and I come from that background
that's why I've been speaking against it
the last couple weeks and then now so
okay I see what was going on because
there's just everybody is a conspiracy
expert now they're sharing so much like
what's going on with with this stuff and
they're gonna kill us all man like I
come from that realm like 2008 2007
eight nine ten we were on the streets
preaching against this stuff do like the
Illuminati and the churches are in bed
with the Illuminati and all this totally
you know what I'm saying like but you
know it's not about that like we always
in a state of panic and freaking out and
pointing the finger and but definitely
Menace mob is about peace bro peace joy
in the Holy Ghost it's not about I'm
saying dick because they keep coming up
with new ways to be evil you never get
you're never gonna figure I never ends
there and they literally keep coming up
with new ways 100% and to the earth and
August
you're never gonna
once you know that your call okay so
when somebody would they would tell me
hey bro you know that they're doing this
and co 419 bro and all this awesome okay
it's the devil you talking about bro
there's a demon talking about like what
you hate my concern with them like I'm
not gonna finish what am i overthrowing
what are we gonna overthrow them we got
a solution I got a solution get in his
glorious just get your life yeah when
I'm not promised tomorrow this before
all of this happened before all of this
I'm ready I I'm not dad is where the new
world order comes I told you I was
supposed to be dead 10 years ago 15 20
years ago thats what's been dead I
supposed to be dead when we saw that we
were smoking out me my wife talked about
this today we're trying to smoke weed
and we were smoke we made us a little
bong off of a coke bottle okay I don't
know classic I did that to do doing we
just kept hitting it with man oh man
hits off of it and there was no weed in
it the plastic was burning and worth
taking big and in my lungs were like it
was like hurting so bad so it was I
brought should've died bro like I'm good
all those calls and all of these things
that I need and my judgments and stuff I
brought
bro every day is a blessing every day on
this side of eternity it's an attitude
of gratitude that I live every day with
I supposed to been dad way back then so
I that's why I say I give them all the
glory and I'm thankful so when I'm in
live in fear and I've seen all this
crazy fear-mongering and you guys have
seen it too
you only got two months to live bro
they're gonna get us hey you're gonna be
the best two months of my life I bet you
that nothing to live to my last two
months in panic and freak out I'm a love
on my family I'm a love on my friends
imma let them know I care about them
like yeah I ain't gonna be scared like
I'm not promised two months bro yeah I
never was promised two months my mom was
Dave told my the board and me before I
came here bro demons tried to choke me
when I was four years old and lay I'm
not like it's up to him you gotta talk
to him God is that okay to kill true
Sikh is it okay to take him out he says
yeah I'm gone
see you on the other side you got got me
to the last
God following him bro however I go it's
got a totally [Â __Â ] man these people
that's the Bible says fear don't fear
man that can kill the body fear God who
could kill a soul yeah I answer to him I
don't answer to your government I don't
answer these people you know what I'm
saying this is we if we lucky we get 80
90 years a hundred what you want huh
that's nothing in the essence of
eternity I'm gonna live forever in the
kingdom of heaven my government is on
his shoulders man these folks will scare
me damn them the most high going judge
these people bro and only thing that is
gonna last as my love for him and the
goodness and and what I did that when we
get up there we're gonna have a
conversation man you remember and we're
gonna be able to see our life review man
and it's gonna echo bro in eternity
young people bro it's gonna be awesome I
think about all that conversations other
joy so many times that conversation you
had with that homeless man today bro you
know that man like that what it did for
him come on man like yeah we thought
about that as I was walking away from
him today you know cuz I was like man I
wish I would have touched some more buds
like you never know what's gonna happen
from that little conversation man like I
feel it dude like when I had the
anointing move in or like when I do
something like we do a baptism or
something there's just like like I did
something man like it's gonna - yeah
decision yeah and and said the whole
point you just made man with conspiracy
stuff like that video I made that that
you were watching the only reason I
wakes people up so and that's the thing
that's the only reason I talk about that
stuff is because it shows people that
this is not just evil people randomly
doing evil agendas there is a spirit
working through them when you
investigate you find that spirit is
Lucifer or Satan and then you see what
the Bible says the Bible says Satan is
the god of this world and then you look
what the Bible says gonna happen the
world look what's happening the world
all comes together is it to me because
there's so many people you can find
channels and channels on conspiracy
stuff yeah and they never boil it down
bro you gotta boil it down what's going
on in the war
Jesus kudos yeah I made that video yeah
you got you prayed and I was a beautiful
prayer and so thanks man
definitely [Â __Â ] yeah man some of that
stuff wakes people up I mean so many old
truthers or so many believers or mystics
now that guess what they started alex
jones and at this point that got on this
album but this there was a point in time
yeah listen to Alex Jones or Jordan
Maxwell or Michael caesarean or some of
these you know David Wilcock or Corey
Goode like that was their entry point to
ask the bigger questions you know and I
got to ask them okay what about God what
about eternity what about you know you
finally run into a channel like this
well we're talking about eternity in the
bigger questions which is Christ and our
experiences right Bakker here and the
chat says they started watching Ailey
ancient aliens was their entry yeah you
know I did a show this week a lot of
talking about many people to entry being
sleep paralysis yeah like it's like
their entry into hey what happened man
you know it's starting to look it up and
there's a shout out to I mean so many I
got dude I can go on all night but my
buddy John Santiago he's looking up
alien theories and he found an episode
where I was talking about aliens and
then I'm talking about this awesome man
that it was like there's a I'm under I'm
under undercover man you bring it all
back to Jesus that's so cool man because
that's that's what it is it really does
all point back to him and there's a have
you ever heard of a PC for mm-hmm
it's like an organization alien
abduction research organization and that
the guy that was running it actually got
saved because he he he was trying to
find a way to help these people because
he saw that these people were being
tormented you know sometimes on a daily
basis and he was about to quit like he
almost gave up and then he had this like
insatiable urge to go look at a specific
file that he had on someone and he saw
that this person called on the name of
Jesus and it stopped the abduction come
Wheatly so that he wouldn't go talk to
his alien researching friends and asked
them if they've ever seen that and like
oh yeah we've come across that a couple
times but like we're not religious so
like you know it's always that it's very
keen religion thing yeah you know and
then he started investigating it more
and found more and more people that had
that same experience and at this point
he has over 650 documented cases of
people calling on Jesus during alien
abduction and it stops it and then on
top of that when people give their lives
to Lord the the duction stop 100-ish
stop completely it's awesome yeah I mean
you know we have the conversation what
is it you know is it good is it bad I
tell you it was another theory and it's
a whole nother episode but like birth
trauma like there's a lot of stuff
talking about like people earn the
trauma of when you were born in this man
with the mask and the big eyes is
pulling you out of the womb and there's
a light and your honor putting you on a
cold table and it's like there's like a
lot of research out there about like
these whole so-called abduction
phenomena so it comes from birth trauma
when you we came in in such a traumatic
way of being ripped from our mother and
in the arms of strangers and being cut
you know and all of these things and so
it's really interesting to just to talk
about it it's not I believe any of this
stuff I just we can you have the
conversation there's other people who
are interested no one and it's okay to
be a Christian and talk about these
theories and but that's what there
should be know who else should be
talking about exactly cuz date you know
David Wilcock talking about it Jordan
Maxwell's talking about it go see what
they doing right now see you know voting
good aliens and all this I mean all kind
of crazy so yeah so so if everybody
hanging out with us and chat I've been
trying to read the comments when I see
him come up so I need to get Baker Adam
starseed Bay Gavin MacDonald shout out
brother Tiger King that's funny
Tiger King cuz you've had that name for
a long time but they just came out of a
documentary called the tiger King on uh
on Netflix which is really good the
tiger King documentary pretty cool Aled
Graham says woke up at 9:53 long
afternoon nap after getting this note
notification I'm super super thankful
- truce what a Friday night treat hey
this was spur-of-the-moment we were
having a guy conversation in and
messenger and he just signed up to come
on our men's retreat and we were just
talking back and forth I was like let's
do a podcast man yeah for sure
I saw Baker says he found God through
meditation I would love to hear that
story sometime what that you know
there's this thing to where like a lot
of these people are having like Jesus
come to them during meditation a lot of
Arab people - yeah bro a lot of Muslims
Jesus are coming to them in the dream
state like while they're dreaming their
happiness yeah Jesus figure come to them
and you know they've experienced love
while they're asleep and they wake up
and is that what must I do to be safe
bro that happened to me the other day
man I uh we had a friend so man I could
tell more of my story but I pretty much
I got saved and then I had a friend that
was at the ayahuasca ceremony that all
the crazy stuff happened to me and he
grew up Christian had a really bad taste
about Christianity in his mouth and when
I told him what happened he's like bro
you created that reality that wasn't
real and all this stuff and I was like
all right bro two weeks later he goes to
he brings his go-to ayahuasca ceremony
to help her she's been struggling with
some stuff and she her eyes turned black
and she starts like demonically
screaming for hours and starts to
levitating and he said the room turned
like visibly red and like all this crazy
stuffs and then he got saved and there's
been this whole domino effect of our
friends coming out of the occult coming
to know Jesus through our experiences
and we had a friend who's kind of just
like secular he come over the other
night and he's just like what's up with
all this Jesus stuff like what you guys
doing and we kind of just like shared
you know he has a lot of problems with
Christianity and I just like address
those things from a biblical view is
like what God has those same problems
and here's the basis for it and it was
cool and then the night we just asked
him and he's on a spiritual dude at all
and we just prayed for him and then I
had him repeat after me a prayer and I
just told him to say like Jesus like but
if you're real please cleanse my heart
so I can see you and that night he
called us at 4:00 in the morning twice
freaking out because he had a dream that
Jesus came and hugged him and he could
tangibly feel Jesus hug
him and just woke up like in all that so
it's awesome yeah man I've experienced
at all and it's all different let's just
say that so but again Jesus is at the
top of it all there's just so much like
there's nothing and you don't need
anything
you don't need to buy anything you don't
need to ingest anything you can just
literally I do think that that's why the
kingdom of heaven is within that we
don't need anything outside of ourselves
he's already giving it to us and we can
go in and commune with the Father by
being still through prayer through the
breath whatever you don't you just go
within and have men the most euphoric
out-of-this-world experiences with the
king of the universe you know what I'm
saying and that's it's the most amazing
experience ever and I've had a lot and
they're all cool like like you know all
of the experiences I've had they all
have changed me and they're all part of
me in some way but Jesus takes the cake
and if you've done all those other
things but have never had an encounter
with Christ I beckon you to try it you
said in your in one of your videos you
talked about it where you were praying
for a woman and then you said that what
she was like like vibrating for days or
we pee for a couple days yeah after just
coming into like an encounter with the
with the presence of God can you talk
about that a little bit and then
absolutely it's kind of build the
expectation man let's talk about like
what that was
and then if you don't mind say a prayer
over that those listening who want to
come into that and an experienced man
just a hundred percent the power and
love of God that we've been talking
about a hundred percent so yeah you know
like you know being a true seeker myself
you know I had never heard of people
that really knew God or encountered God
I'd only ever seen religion so you know
it's my joy to like share shared the the
nonstop testimonies of knowing him and
you know and praying for people I want
people to know God that's like my only
mission ever on this earth know
and I I'm a music teacher and a math
tutor and I had a website for my
business and I called them to just
standard customer service stuff and at
the end of the cost customer service
call I asked the woman if I could pray
for her and she said no and then I was
like why not like come on everyone can
use some prayer okay let me pray for you
and she's like okay fine so then I just
humble myself and I started praying for
her and I there was just so much coming
out like I was you know really just
praying that God would touch her that
she would know that he is not a faraway
God that he's not a religious God he is
her father that loves her and wants to
know her and wants to walk with her and
wants to be with her and I'm just going
in and I probably paid for I don't know
three to five minutes straight and then
at the end of the prayer she said thank
you and hung up and that was it and then
on the next the next day I went on my
phone and I had a message on whatsapp
from Guatemala and it was this woman she
had saved my information and she
messaged me and she told me that she had
tried killing herself five months before
and that after she tried killing herself
she went into rehab and then she got
this job and she told me for a very long
time for like months and months she
hadn't felt anything she didn't she
hadn't felt any feelings I she was she's
dead just empty and she was you know
chasing men having a bunch of sex doing
a bunch of drugs getting drunk all the
time and it was all just making her
emptier and she said the day before I
prayed for her she was saying about
killing yourself again I just said that
after I prayed for her she started
weeping uncontrollably like she could
not stop for hours so you know for her
to go from months of complete emptiness
to a three minute phone call from a
stranger in another continent
you know radically making her weep for
hours that's not something a human being
can do that is a Spirit of God that
loves her and wants to know her
you know it's just so men like I love
sharing that story because you can't
really have a framework for that coming
from the new age when you're in to other
kinds of spiritualities you can't do you
can't offer something to someone over
the phone in another country over three
minutes that's gonna radically change
their lives you're like give them one
more like schedule them for yeah yeah
you just need to surrender those into
those feelings and I say after mate you
smoke weed yeah you can now yes it's
like pharmaceuticals right it's like
you're addressing the symptoms but
what's the root cause the real cause is
separation from the Lord your God you
know so so yeah man and I still talk to
her today that was nine months ago at
this point and she's brand new person
man she loves God you know like she's
changed I remember the day that we were
messaging she was like telling me that
she didn't think she could ever like
pray to God because she was so dirty and
ashamed and the next day she was sending
me voice recordings of her just singing
to God at the top of her lungs and it
was so beautiful Guatemala right wow
yeah yeah so yeah I'll pray bro yeah God
you love every single person that's
listening right now I don't care what
they've done I don't care who they are I
don't care who they think they are
because at the end of the day all they
are is your child Lord and anything that
that says other than that their identity
is nothing other than your child your
holy beloved wonderfully and perfectly
made child so I come against anything
other than that for anything other than
that is a lie of the devil and I just
speak that life and that identity into
them as a inheritor of endless blessing
and and identity in the most high
creator of all things Lord and when we
know you what could come against us what
could come against the one who created
and crafted all things who knows all
things who is in charge and in power of
all things and can make
anything happening when you are for us
and nothing can be against us Lord and I
just pray right now in the name of Jesus
that if anyone listening has never
encountered your presence Holy Spirit
that you would fall on them right now
Lord God that you put a fire in the
hearts and the minds and in the souls of
every person listening to know you more
or to come to know you it you just
humble themselves and say Jesus if you
are real I'm here I want to know you
show yourself to me and you will because
you are faithful you're absolutely
faithful and I pray all this in your
precious name Jesus amen
mmm yeah man I have so many stores like
that bro I I prayed I went to a friend
of Mines house she's been like
struggling with alcoholism and she goes
on Facebook super drunk and like calls
herself a [Â __Â ] just like all this bad
stuff and I'm always reaching out to her
like yo let's get together and one
morning she called over one night she
called me like two in the morning
freaking out like going in two different
personalities she said can you help me
and I'm wina her house and start talking
about Jesus and she's like I'm an
atheist and I was like well how about
you just pray with me that if Jesus is
real that he would show themselves to
you so we prayed that at 3:00 in the
morning drunk as all hell and Jesus real
himself there you know within time and
now her life is changing you know it's
always faithful yes somebody wants to
know can you be a Christian and vegan
what yes of course yeah I mean I I would
say well I guess it would be wrong to
say that but I would say that's what God
designed us to be if you look at the
Garden of Eden they didn't have
McDonald's they didn't have animals you
know he said the the fruits and the
vegetables are for your meat you know
yeah for sure there's a somebody sent me
a message
or tag me and an Instagram post by this
guy named the gangster vegan I think it
was and tagged me he's like you need to
get him on a podcast and it was just was
today I hit him up and uh dude was
spitting some truth and he's uh he's
like I don't know if you call himself
and he seemed like an Israelite kind of
thing but uh yeah but but he's a
believer he talked about Christ talked
about Messiah and he was a vegan so I
think I'm have him oh I'm pretty soon
we're gonna talk about it that's not
from a Christian perspective and the
diet yeah and one thing I do say is like
God usually deals with people at some
time in their life about their diet
whether it's união fasts more you need
to stay away from this or you need to
start eating that we did kosher for like
eight years
Wow we stopped we stopped eating
shellfish and bottom feeders and things
like that and yeah did that for like and
then I did a vegetarian thing and I
still try I try to do it I stress
struggle from time to time I could never
go like a month or two without we're
doing and then kind of go back but I go
back and forth with that yeah I try to
eat as vegan as possible but I
definitely don't always do that yeah
yeah you know your body's your temple
and obviously like a live food again the
life-and-death thing you know it always
comes back to that for me you know and
it's like if you're eating living food
you're gonna be more alive than eating
dead food you know and I'm actually
whoever asked that question thank you
for asking that that something I need to
remind myself of Joe Rogan has been
talking a little bit about that lately a
lot actually because he's about the
carnivore yeah cuz he's a carnivore he's
usually made fun of vegans and you know
he's usually because he does he loves
meat but lately he's been talking about
how meat eaters he feels he's just not
coming to the realization that they're
more aggressive they are like there's
this DNA thing that you feel like you
have to hunt in kill versus like Lanka
just pick up berries or pick up an apple
and just you know it changes your like
genetic makeup and he's talking about
like when he starts just eating just a
lot of meat he feels that that way it's
like he literally said I have to feel
like I have to fight off the demons yeah
said that and he's not really a
spiritual God per se
yeah some was you know not a religious
guy I think he's secretly has hidden
this but it's another conversation might
be some we can go deep on Joe Rogan he
makes fun of he makes fun of lay people
like wall who change oil for a living he
makes fun of them in really yeah there's
a it comes out every now and then yeah
something I was like because he's a bro
he's one of the breath the dudes hey bro
ha yeah fish I curse I you know I drink
beer I have a friend that had a
personally a close friend in Hollywood
who's a music producer that personally
knows Joe Rogan and said he's a Satanist
yes doesn't talk about it could be come
to the deep conversation yeah for
another broadcast one of those
conspiracy shows will do yeah
we have a list of all the the Satanists
in Hollywood we're gonna out all of them
yeah there's a bunch of man for I mean
that's what they do this come on like
it's the majority world you know it's
just part of the part of the territory
yeah I mean Adam starseeds says I have
not eaten animal flesh since 2011 I
started not eating pork off in 2010 and
stop eating chicken and fish in 2011 wow
that's what's up bro
that's inspiring the long time yeah okay
so uh Forks alchemist says that Rogen
has pics with Anton LaVey
yep he yeah he went to Anton LaVey
no no no that was Duncan Trussell went
to Anton LaVey daughter's wedding day
Anton LaVey I think I think I think Joe
Rogan did too he was with them I think
I'd seen mom you definitely know that
Duncan Trussell was was there because he
talked about it on an episode yeah then
I first eat of course you can find the
pictures of Joe Rogan doing this thing
you know there's probably pictures of me
doing that too though sure
third eyes open sashes bro yes even like
when Trump Hey it's good it's the best
ever he's doing this like look Trump is
doing sick man that was like in the
early days of that stuff of the YouTube
exposed videos they were screenshot in
people who were just like accidentally
doing it they were like yeah yeah people
doing this in the wrong angle yeah look
like I was being honest stuff dude like
I was so into it and when I found it was
so new to me that's the thing you gotta
watch out about trends and and things
because they're new there's a nice read
too into it yeah but the newness wears
off yeah whether it's conspiracy whether
it's religion whether it's the New Age
whether it's Hebrew roots whatever
movement you're getting into there's a
newness the drug culture whatever
there's an illness but eventually that
newness wears off and you look for
something else that stimulates your your
mind or something else that seems new
and exotic or whatever yeah you you're
like a dog chasing your tail over and
over but guess what
guess what's cool about God his mercy is
new every morning yeah his mercies are
new every morning I tell you when I used
to like struggle with a lot of sin and
stuff even as a believer just my own
self and my flesh I would feel I would
feel dirty for the day yeah I feel beat
up but I would know that when I go to
bed when I wake up tomorrow and this
mercies were new every morning and I
would look at Word today and it is as
much as every morning's good stuff bro I
appreciate you hanging out with me you
got a YouTube channel a bunch of yeah
videos man go ahead and plug your
YouTube and let people know where they
can check you out at and I'm sure we'll
be doing more together I really like
week I would love that man for sure I
look forward to meeting and then
it's me awesome school that you're in
Alabama that's not you so you're not too
far I'm in Florida but yeah okay we're
Orlando Orlando yeah see my youtube
channel is I love already one
it's just youtube.com so I actually I've
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just so everyone loved already would and
so when this goes out live on all the
podcasting apps I'll put the link in the
description where they can go check it
out because you got some really cool
videos and thanks man yeah a lot more to
come and comes out a lot
keep it up I'll see is key I love that
you're doing guided meditations to find
Jesus because that's something I've been
feeling strongly for a long I've never
seen anyone doing the life-changing bro
IP by freaking out like they're
literally they're coming out of it
change bro it's been that's obscene
I can't it's hard for me to even talk
about sometimes without crying just it
brings me back to like when I was
writing them and like in an encounter
with the Lord and literally on so much
ain't channeling the father and father
what would you say and I'm living I'm at
my keyboard I'm in I got the music on
I'm just in his presence our Lord what
would you say and I'm just like taking
on this journey within and not like
there's a there's a there's some
artistic creativity you're going through
you're meeting people there's angels
there's all kind of stuff but then it's
I can't get into this or this the four
living creatures you can't ask them you
know if you can hear their wings
flapping in roar you can hear them
roaring as lightning and thunder and
that's in depth it is - it's so good and
it's like okay now that you're in his
presence and I'm describing it his love
is just so good and it's coming in waves
and there's a sound effect of like woosh
woosh another wave of his glory woosh
and sudden you suddenly you feel the
Bliss and I'm like okay Lord what do you
want me to tell him tell him I loved him
like I've been with them since the
beginning I've never left them and I
just chatting his heart man you know
yeah they're so good so if you guys
haven't checked that out that's called
the throne room meditation and that's on
my website true seeker com
make sure you go check it out awesome
you said you're on Instagram - I'm on
that pretty much everything yeah it's
just true see done it again cool I'm
gonna follow you right now
the show for show thanks for hanging out
man we'll have to do it again and for
sure like I want to I want to do more
with you man and I'm sure we wait - man
that I feel a brotherly connection man
for sure we got the same father so who
makes sense
yeah man and the next time we chat I'll
have one of those c9 tens or whatever it
is someone look into right now what it
Otakon okay c920 for sure 920 okay oh
yeah I think I've got um yeah this is it
there's a link where you can get it it's
they're super cheap nothing you probably
get them anywhere from forty to sixty
that's awesome yeah cuz this camera's
not too nice so little things help man
you know this contrast is there's some
cool lighting some cool air be honest
you know saying like this is nice
there's just little things here and
there then you can you can change the
color hey this is where we fill in the
blue I like that I like that the green
light I'm partial to green light - I
don't do it a lot because it doesn't
look good but when I get in my
meditation and prayer like the green
light sir it's nice gives it a nice
contrast and that's cheap - man this
thing this was like 30 bucks and some
it's actually a floodlight for outside
but it works really good I don't really
do the red but the red look good tonight
those of you who are watching you guys
know what I'm talking about but for
those of you listening on the podcasts
are like what what I'm changing the
colors of my room so hey man yeah thanks
for appreciate this conversation but we
have to do it again see man what a
blessing I brother have a good night
god bless man I make my own peace peace
take care yep he's in discord he joined
our discord community - and he's a good
brother man really like where he's at
spiritually and walking with the Lord I
don't know what is up with this layer I
look super big or whatever all right
there it is so oh man
enjoyed it the goodness of God shall
lead all men unto repentance
that's the day knowing how good
goddess man it like makes us wanna to
serve him because he's good you know the
whole thing about the hell thing people
are asking about hell like if you win
someone to Christianity or to make a
decision based off of the fear of hell
you got to keep them with the fear
however you win them you're gonna have
to keep them you got to keep them there
you got to keep them scared you give you
sin bro he's gonna he's gonna take his
salvation away from you you're gonna
lose your salvation man you keep them
there with the fear of going to hell
because that's how you want them but the
Bible says that God's goodness shall
lead all men unto repentance no there's
a time to fear and tremble of his
majesty and how how holy and righteous
the fear and trembling is is good so
don't get me wrong but it talked about
like saving people from Hellfire that's
snatching them from the pits of Hell you
know and people are there people are
experiencing I know you know it's been
some years ago but I was there and I and
it's easy to get back there man if you
if you don't walk in the spirit man if
you start you become a carnal Christian
just doing the things that make your
flesh happy continually feeding the
flesh vs. feeding your spirit man you
find yourself in some very strange
situations and some of the things that
you feel like you overcome years ago
come creeping right back in and you
start fighting those same deep dark void
of entities forces over again so beat
walking the light as he s he is in the
light that's what we're supposed to do
so I enjoyed it
Jordan hanging out with you guys I'm
reading all the comments what's up
Deborah Christie Johnson again Baker
shout-out to you Michael
yeah you guys are awesome but yeah to
also want to mention to kind of
transitioning into like starting a
network with the podcast and I'm taking
on some some new ventures and trying to
help some smaller podcasters kind of get
on some friends of mine are starting to
step out in podcast for the first time
and so I have a network now which you
can follow me on
to check out some of the other shows
that were putting on as well I'm a good
friend Furman Jackson with the walk in
his ways impact voice podcast and hope
to have ferment on here soon - so me and
him did a lot of ministry back in the
day a lot of street ministry so we can
come on here and tell some old stories
and stuff would be really cool but I'm
putting him on his podcast is on on
there I've got the next stages podcast
on there which is only a couple episodes
that I've done with Gil and Karina and
some of those guys who are with the next
stages Daniel Levy and Michael Bassam
we've got a couple of episodes that's on
there my main man Nico Nico Morales he's
starting a podcast he did his first
episode today his show will be on there
and I know that one's gonna be deep
because that brother is uh brothers got
a lot of info Ali says Furman that's
what's up see members Fuhrman genie says
bro it's so late you okay yeah man I'm
podcasting and not gaming I know right
should be should be gaming right now it
was a spur-of-the-moment thing bro I'm
okay man I'm doing well
doing good love you bro genie shoutout
to you man with that being said I'm
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thank you my friend we will pray for the
booty god I pray that you bless your
people lord I pray that they come out
strong at the end of this thing I pray
that they come out ahead god I think you
that even like financially you're just
you're setting up ways to bless people
right now to come out ahead
not to just barely make it father but
just to be blessed financially above and
beyond anything that they can dream or
fathom Lord shaking down press together
and running over father God just simply
because you love them not because
they're there they're good stewards of
it but father but just simply because
you love them and you love to bless your
children I pray that everyone comes out
ahead financially spiritually and in
their health as well and Jesus mighty
name amen and amen love you guys we'll
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