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Corina Toncz-Pataki joins TruthSeekah in this episode of The TruthSeekah Podcast as they discuss her new book Unveiling the Mysteries of the Celestial and Engaging the Blueprints of God. They also touch on angelic, energy, atheric beings who are allies to humanity and how they are here to help.

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Corina Toncz-Pataki is a writer who, having immigrated to Chicago from Romania during Ceausescu’s dictatorship, currently makes her home outside of Nashville, TN with her husband and 4 children. The book which documents her family’s escape from Romania, The Quest for Freedom, is being developed into a feature film as well as a companion documentary. Corina is a sought after speaker, teacher, and minister.

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Without further ado, we're going to welcome today's guest, my friend, Karina Pataki,
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Welcome to the podcast.
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I love it.
So good to be with you there.
So, so good.
Thank you for having me on.
for sure. And I want to give you your accolades again, just to say thank you,
to like I said, I remember when I was interviewed by you on your podcast, your show,
you had me on and just picking my brain about my ministry, what I do, and how peculiar it is,
and things like that. So it allowed me to be open about my testimony and my pursuit and my ambition,
and you saw something in me that a lot of Christians didn't see. It really means the world
for you to have me on your platform,
kind of roll the dice, take a chance.
And that was a couple of years ago now
and kingdom talks and those guys reached out
and fell in love with me too,
Gil and Adina and that whole crew.
And I just want to say thank you for being a real Christian
and, you know what I'm saying?
They've taken a chance with me.
And it means a lot, but it moves something in me
to be a little bit more vocal about my faith at the time.
So thanks for doing that.
What a pleasure. I want to honor. I mean, you have something so huge that God has put a new
Derek and you're shining. You're shining his light and the world needs to hear it. You're not
in a box. God has stretched you outside the box and that's so needed, especially this time and season.
So it's been it was a pleasure to be able to have you on the show with us and just show the world
who Christ is in you so yeah thank you thank you and again thank you again because you put a
you you reached out to Brian Welch for me Brian had Welch and uh you know him have become good
friends and had him on the podcast now and not a lot of people know but you you you you're the
one who told him to to hit me up and he did so thanks for that so Wendy Wendy Wendy is the one
that was like okay Brian let's do this so yeah he did it yeah he did so that's awesome yeah
So yeah, for sure for sure, that was a beautiful conversation I had too if you haven't
seen it, it was a really good talk.
So I haven't heard from you in a while, I know you've been busy, you're always working
for sure, but I would have, what have you been working on recently?
I know you put out a book and some more stuff, but what would you, what's been up?
Yeah, so just launched springtime our third book called engaging the celestial and stepping into the blueprint of God, which is basically our blueprint. So it's outside the Christian East box.
It's really what is a blueprint and, you know, we look at certain scripture that is outside again of what we've been taught on the church, going beyond, going deeper and letting the word unveiled itself, letting the lower, letting God, letting creator.
creator, just kind of reveal what is of the importance of blueprint and just walking people through
that, have mystic retreats getting ready to work on a fourth book. And I don't know, last time we
talked probably about a year and a half ago, I launched a group called Revolution Is Here,
where we are literally meeting from all over the world and we are ascending in the father's
heart and taking care of some business, some things that need to be taken care of as far as
children. You know, some of the stuff that's going on that is definitely evil. And it's out there
and it's happening. So, you know, it's a training process. I've been training people hands on,
which I love. It's not about praying. It's about actually stepping outside, going into
the realms of the father from within his heart and following his directives. And his strategies for
for what we're supposed to do and Derek,
I tell you what the response that we see in the natural
from what we do in the spirit is remarkable.
I mean, there are times one,
why are we on the Zoom call?
There's stuff happening,
exactly stuff that we've been dealing with
in the ascension, in the spirit realm.
It's literally manifesting.
So it's so exciting to see.
And that's, you know, it's a time in the season
where we have to train people hands on.
Enough of just blah, blah, blah, blah,
and actually walk the walk
and you do the talking, teach them.
And that's how, so that's to me,
that's just beyond exciting to see people growing.
So it's just been busy with a whole bunch
of little things here and there.
How hard has that been for like,
because there's a lot of stuff that you just know
in the spirit, you know how to do warfare,
you know how to call down fire from heaven,
you know how to do a lot of things,
but when you try to teach somebody or articulate it,
it's like, oh, I gotta try to explain it to you.
I can show you, but telling somebody,
is it just a thing where you just show them
and try not to tell them how does that work?
Because I know it can be hard.
It is, I mean, and you know when the Lord told me
to launch this last February,
and the February beginning of March, not this year,
you're prior.
Derek, I was just like, okay,
and we had people from every Christian background,
Baptist, you know, church of Christ, Pentecostals.
Some of them, a lot of them have never even,
A lot of them have never even heard of ascension
or they thought the word mystic was evil.
Yeah, yeah.
Attention, what?
You know, so we literally, twice a week
I would literally just train that I would talk to them
about it, show them scripture, you know,
this is, it's in the Bible.
We just have never seen it like that.
And then at the end we do hands on.
So these people now from not even believe,
from thinking that the word mystic is demonic,
We're getting toward there.
We are engaging with other cosmic beings
to help in this war, this global,
I mean, this cosmic war and help rescue who we need to rescue.
So it's absolutely the greatest joy for me
to see how people can learn hands-on.
I mean, yes, you teach them.
And yes, it was nerve-wracking
because you're like, you're teaching something
that you would think they have no concept.
But if there's a desire there,
then they're willing to not only listen,
but let's do hands-on now.
Let's see, how do we ascend?
What does the father shard look like?
How does this happen?
Oh, you mean I don't have to die
before I can go see the father, not only Jesus, but the father.
So, and not only that, but to engage and realize
that, wait a minute, there's other beings out there.
Not all of them are evil.
As a matter of fact, more of them are good and evil.
And wait a minute, we can actually engage them
and they can actually come alongside.
been waiting to come alongside of the sons, humanity, the sons that have been made on the
father's image to come alongside and help us, not just the angels, not just, you know, the desert
father, not just the cloud of witnesses, but also cosmic beings, different beings from different
realms and different dimensions, what? So it has been amazing to see people growing it. It has
been absolutely amazing. And like I told you, we can see Derek, the manifestation of what we're
doing every Friday night. You know, I want to say about let's say 75% of the time we can see
it immediate and immediate shift in the natural of what we've been doing. So, you know, when
people see that, that's all you need for them to, you know, get excited and step into the next,
the more. Yeah. Can we just talk about like that preface a little bit as far as like being outside
of the church box. So there's people who wouldn't maybe identify as a Christian. Can they get
on in on this or is there a prerequisites of being a follower of Jesus? No. So, you know,
about a year and a half ago, I had a huge encounter with a father. And this is what he showed me.
I saw a line of people on this. So there was, I was here and there was a line of people on this
side. And you know what he said to me? He said, Karina, he said, the
ones that you call new ages, the ones that the church has called
demonic, they have heard my heartbeat and they have been doing
business while my church has been busy building their own
kingdoms. So he said to me, I want to introduce you to your
brothers and your sisters from the other, from across the, from
across the gap. He said, reach your hand out and grab their
I want you to connect unity unity. They have been working in the light and they have been working out of the heart of the creator
Even if they don't know him yet as father like we know him, right?
But he said to me the father said to me you need to reach across the aisle
You need to grab their hand. Those are your brothers and your sisters and he said you have things that you must learn from them and
They have things to impart to you and you have things that you have to impart to them
So all this to say to answer your question. No, it's it's opened to whoever is operating out of the heart of creator of the father out of light
Yeah, and you know, Derek, you know, you know, I mean
The church is coming it's coming along
But absolutely whoever has a desire to operate in the light out of the heart of the father
That's what we're looking for hey and that's who yeah, that's who he's looking for
And that was the big shift for me of like how inclusive Christ is a God is of like it's not those who say unto me, Lord Lord
But those who do the will of my father and that we have people that are not of this fold Christian church fold that are
Doing the will of the father they're loving the unlovable
They're showing grace and peace to those who don't deserve it and thereby nature doing the things that are written of in that book
But they don't carry that banner or that title or they you know
most of them are church heard or that they've never heard the gospel explained in a practical way to them and
But yeah, but it opens up like who God is dealing with you know, and it's it's everybody as long as I
You know going back to the book of Acts
It says as long as they'll repent as long as you turn from your sin like God is willing to do use you in the earth
and put a seal upon you.
So that's awesome, you guys have come with that revelation.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, the thing is, when you choose to be chosen
then his light and his love, which is not,
I'm not talking about the mushy gushi love.
I'm talking about love as the ultimate source
of power and energy, the most powerful force,
the most powerful force in every universe,
every multiverse, every dimension.
So when we choose to allow ourselves to be chosen,
then that law flows through us
and there's nothing we can't do.
And he's not looking for a Christian stamp on your chest.
That's not what he's looking for.
He didn't come to build Christianity,
came to build relationship.
And unfortunately, a lot of these incredible awesome people,
they have been introduced to a very ugly father.
That's why they can relate to that.
And they've been introduced to very, very ugly Jesus.
Yeah, 100%.
Yet they're still willing to do an operate out of light.
So, you know, we have to start learning, you know,
we have to start learning from them.
And, you know, there, you know, we've been programmed,
religion has been a program and it's been twisted
and manipulated and the Lord has just shaked
God is shaking all about down
and He's saying relationship relationship, relationship,
and unity.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been seeing it for years now
And it's amazing that the entire planet is under a awakening
right now.
Everyone's having a spiritual awakening
and rising up and for most people,
the banners and stuff like that don't matter.
It's the fruit of what you bring to the table.
But I think some of the religious people
are still fighting onto their terminology,
tooth and nail, that's still out there.
but they're small minority at this point for sure.
Yeah, and you know when the scripture says
that he's going to come and shake everything
that must be shaken, Derek, we are in a season
as humanity as Christians, we have entered,
we have already, we're in the midst of a season
where spirit of revolution has been released
and with truth, with spirit of truth
and they're shaking the very core
the foundation of what Christianity and religion was based on because it was based on a lot of
control, a lot of manipulation, preaching laws, denying the power and again of love. And again,
it's not who Shigushi, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a demonstrative,
ultimate power source and energy, a creative light that creates everything. So, you know, to
transform everything according to what the original blueprint, this is not how creation was supposed
to be, this is not what God created earth and humanity and the cosmos to be. He didn't create
anything in chaos. Well, why is there chaos? It's been manifested year by year, decade by decade,
you know, uh, constantly under our watch, under our noses, you would say Christians,
and yet it's still growing more and more. Why? Because we have not stepped up into that
level and saying, shake everything that must be shaken. All I want is truth. And I want to operate
out of that power source love to create everything according to its original blueprint.
So yeah, you get me started, I mean, yeah, we're going to get you started.
I got a lot of questions.
I'm going to try to I'm going to try to cover as much ground as we can because I do
have questions without using a lot of buzzwords, right, just for YouTube and all that
take and you know the state of the world where we are right now so many people are in turmoil
they're scared to death the future doesn't look good it doesn't look bright are you optimistic
about about the future and the revelations and dreams that you've been seeing and can you speak
to that is there a hope for the distant future? Oh yeah there is a hope absolutely there's a hope
And you know, God has allowed what is happening, you know, why, for us to wake the head up,
take off our baby diaper, take the pacifier out of our mouth and step up into a position of maturity,
because if we really, really understand who we are there as humanity, as as sons of the ultimate
God, we then understand that we can create.
It is up to us.
God put his ultimate creative light
that creates everything and created light.
AKA love, okay, because love creates everything.
He put that in us.
So the moment we stop looking at fear,
the moment we stop looking at the doom profits,
I don't care what background they're from,
what religion they're from.
And as the moment we stop giving fear, power,
and when we start looking to hope, to what God said,
to, because the Bible says, or God, or universe,
whatever you wanna call it,
that there is a hope and a future, okay?
So when we understand that there is the ultimate power in us,
and it takes, this is what quantum physics says,
it takes a observer to create a reality.
So when I understand that I have to get my eyes off of doom
and boom, no matter what it looks like, it's an illusion.
The moment I understand I have to take my eyes off of that,
because when I look at it, I'm creating that.
And take my eyes off of that and put it on what I know
that the hope that he has for us, which there's hope,
there's always hope.
I am literally creating that reality.
But what has happened all this fear-mongering
and all the chaos around.
If we look at it, we're gonna freak out.
But yes, there is hope.
And again, God, creator, source,
whatever you people wanna call him,
he's the ultimate power.
He has allowed this because he wants to wake us up
into our true identity and the true power that we have.
We, he's a creator and we are creators.
So he wants us to start creating, there, come on.
He's the ultimate God.
Could he do this and change everything
and take out everybody,
everything that's evil, the evil forces?
Absolutely.
Is he gonna do it?
No, why?
Because he's created us.
How do we war?
We don't go eyeball to eyeball with the devil,
with demons, with dark forces.
No, you literally look at the opposite
and bring about that reality,
because now you become an observer
and you create that very reality.
So yes, there is hope, huge hope, absolutely.
That's awesome.
Awesome, thank you so much for that.
Like I said, there's so many,
It's been prepared, it's tactfully done.
You know, the scripture just right now just seems so,
so true.
And I don't think it was talking about this,
but the scripture that says that, you know,
come to turn mother-in-law against daughter-in-law,
father against son, and a man's enemy was that will be that
within his own household.
And it's like, man, like that seems like right now,
as far as all of the turmoil and people fighting
and disagreeing on religious beliefs and political beliefs
and, you know, did you get it, you know,
and all that kind of stuff and it is so,
man, we're so weak when we step down to that level
and try to fight and rationalize there,
you gotta be above it.
If you step into that and try to debate
and try to finagle and figure out
what the enemy's doing, oh my God, it's over.
You have to rise above it and see what the father is, right?
Yeah, because you know what, when we understand that what happens is when you focus on a particular
illusion or reality, you are literally giving that energy power and it's getting you the source of
your supply will come from what you focused on. So when you focus on that, that's what you're creating.
So that's why it's like we have to learn how to get our eyes. That's how the scripture says
focus, put your eyes on what things that are lovely and things that are good and
things that are above. He's trying to teach us. Listen, you are a creator. My power is
in you. You're creating. So when we come down to this level, we are literally
creating that and when we learn to shift, we are there. We are literally creating
another realm, another reality. Talk about 5D and 3D. We're creating that by
our observation. So this is our training. Listen, this is our training ground as humanity.
Wow. Being trained. That's awesome. Yeah. And you know, people need to know that there's
stuff that they can do, right? There's ways that they can engage. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know,
we're as far as Christians speaking, we're, you know, the Lord is so moved us out of this
binding demons and spiritual warfare the way we knew it. You know what spiritual
warfare basically is like get into the heart of the father the most intimate
sacred place that there is and focus on what he's telling me to focus on and
let that love start flowing out of you to create what is not there. So right now
it looks like doom and gloom and whatever don't focus on that get into that
place in the most sacred place at the center of his love which is his essence
which is the ultimate power and release that and that is going to create one needs to be created
and it's going to overtake what is there that's not of him what is darkness so you don't
remove it you focus on the opposite release that that's that's warfare yeah it's not what we used to
do so people are learning and I'm telling you I'm seeing it and what I do with people do I train
the way the Lord has given me the insight to train them it's a totally different bulging it's a
different ball game. So yeah, it's exciting. Man, that's awesome. And talk about our friends
again, like, you know, you kind of mentioned it a little bit at the beginning just about, you know,
we have help. We have help in the opinion in the, I say invisible realms, but there's visible
realms as well, because you can, you know, you're privy to go there at times. But, you know,
I know it goes back and I have to look at this scripture just talking about
Elijah and the young man, when they were afraid, when they woke up in the middle of the desert
and they had enemies pursuing them and they woke up and there was an army around them
and they woke up and the young man was freaking out. Elijah and we're going to die. The Lord
has left us and he's like, wait, don't lose hope yet. He prayed for him. He said, let me pray for
you that God would open up your eyes, open up your vision and he's seen the chariots of fire
all within the mountains around them and he said that there was more that are for us than those
who are against us, is that applicable for today in the spirit realm and the angels and the
beings that have our greatest good in mind? Absolutely, absolutely. You know, when we did not
understand or when we were in the church for those of us that grew up in that, you couldn't even
talk about other beings, UFOs, other cosmic beings,
because all we knew was that their demons,
well, that's ridiculous.
Demons are disembodied spirits.
These entities have bodies, like when they show up
from their realm and to ours, from their dimension,
you can touch them, they have bodies.
So they're not demons.
They're beings that God has created.
We are not the only ones that God has created.
We are the sons that are made in His image,
but there are so many other beings
and different realms and worlds that Father has created.
That's why it says that all of creation is groaning
for the sons to be revealed so we can wake up
so we can join forces with them.
So yes, in the contest that we were taught,
we thought that all of that meant just angels.
But now we're understanding, wait a minute,
our heavenly family, our cosmic family is huge.
And we're only talking about in one world.
I mean, one universe.
And now they've been talking about multiverses
for quite a few years now.
So in all of those, there are beings
that the father has created that are allies.
So they are so ready, they've been around here.
They're all over around, sometimes they allow to be seen,
sometimes not, but they are literally coming along
to help us when we are ready to engage with them
with them, so that victory, the victory of God, can be brought forth.
Derek, I'm telling you, there have been amazing, amazing victories that we've had when we
engaged, listen, we engage with angels, we engage with different celestial beings, we engage
with Mother Earth, we engage with elements, we engage with everything, and I'm telling you
the victory in that unity, it's absolutely remarkable.
So absolutely, it's, I believe that's scripture has to do with all these things as well.
For sure, for sure.
Oh, it's a picture for sure.
Yeah.
And we've had to do it a bunch, right?
We've had to ask for the eyes of our understanding or the eyes of our heart to be open so
that we can see that we're not alone, you know.
When did this change for you as far as getting this, this real and deep?
I know you've been into the angelic and engaging and stuff, but when it opens up to like
these other, you know, beings or whatever.
When did this become real for you?
Cause it has, like something has to happen to be like, man,
this is without a doubt, you know,
next level ground that got us, you know,
allowed me to see into when did this become real for you?
What happened?
You know, when it became real was 2013.
I had a very huge encounter.
And I, at that point, I was not ready to go public with it.
Because, you know, I, I felt like if people are not ready.
And so at that time, it was about almost a five hour encounter where I went, um, I was
taken with, with the issue, um, through the nebula, the eye of God, we went through it.
And I went, um, 56 light years away.
So, so was, was, was that, um, the, um, Orion nebula?
Uh, yes, the one that looks like the eye of God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We went straight through there.
It was a huge, like, almost, like I said, five hour hour encounter.
And that's when Jesus started telling me some stuff.
We came out through one of the tunnels.
He told me 56 light years away.
We came over a king plan that looked like a jewel.
He had me write down the details.
I was sitting on my sofa with a notebook in my hand.
He said, Karina, write it down.
I will write it down.
Close my eyes.
I was back up there with him.
I wrote every detail down.
And that's when he started speaking to me
about other beings that God has created.
That's when he gave me the whole download
that we are not the only ones.
And he started breaking stuff down for me.
as far as what other beings are,
and as far as the ones that are not good,
the ones that traded with Lucifer,
the ones that are allies within,
and how many more are?
I mean, there's much more for us
that are operating out of the heart of the father,
and there's other ones that don't even know him yet.
They don't even know, they don't even know.
Yeshua, they don't, they don't.
So it was a very eye opening.
So anyway, after that encounter,
it was so funny because I sat down on my laptop
and I heard the Lord say to me, go ahead and Google.
Because here I was, I mean, Derek, ready to like,
I was the one, is there a pink planet found?
You know, like, of course, it's not a pink planet.
I'm making all this stuff up and Derek, I kid you not.
I Google that and lo and behold,
exactly the pink planet they call it, the Jew planet.
A pink planet, 56 light years away was discovered by NASA.
I fell on the floor.
So, I mean, I was over that planet.
I was with Jesus over that planet.
So that's when a lot of, he started showing me stuff,
talking to me about different beings.
So that's when he was preparing me to understand this,
but I was not ready to go public with it.
People that would mentor, I did share with,
but now I'm like, okay, you know what?
This is the truth, you're ready for it.
And, you know, the channel that you've helped
with, you've helped, you were so awesome
to help with the sounds, the intro.
Yeah, I love it.
You know, it's like, it's called the quest for truth.
And then the parenthesis is, can you handle the truth?
Because truth is common.
So you gotta get ready.
So this is truth.
There are other beings here besides angels,
cosmic beings that are ready to help us.
And they've been helping us.
It's awesome.
Yeah, about 2013.
Amazing, amazing.
Talk a little bit about your retreat that you've been doing.
I've been taking groups of people out myself
and going into the woods and going out into nature.
And I've seen there was a lot of stuff
that you guys had listed, that you were gonna be doing.
Talk a little bit about the retreats
and some of the techniques that you guys use.
I'm really big into plant medicines
and chocolate and just like things that God has given us
to engage because our bodies are fearfully
and wonderfully made.
We react a certain way when you drink pure chocolate,
cacao and it's amazing, it expands the heart.
When you burn sage, when you have crystals,
like we're fearfully and wonderfully made
and we respond to that stuff.
So grounding, walking barefoot,
there's so much that we can do
and when you go out there with a group of people,
it's amazing, but what are some of the things
that's been near and dear to your heart
for these gatherings that you've been doing in person?
Yeah, so before I said that I have to preface it with this.
So we need to understand,
I know we have a whole bunch of mixture of people watching.
So I'm talking about for the Christians,
I love you guys so much.
So, but we do have to understand one thing.
Everything that is out there that is created
was created by God.
The devil didn't create jack crap.
What he likes to do is steal what God has created
and use it for his good.
Twist manipulates, perverts it, okay?
So, who created the crystals?
Can everybody say it?
God created the crystals.
The devil didn't know he didn't.
Who created our third eye?
Excuse me?
The devil created anything in your brain, no, God did.
So, who created the elements, all of that stuff?
So, the enemy just steals.
So, yes, when I know when the Lord told me to do,
to the first to do this retreat,
it was going to be an out of the box.
I mean, people had to be ready for this.
We did a cacao ceremony as well.
Oh, of course.
Well, yeah, we went to New Mexico.
The Lord is sending us a different spot
on the US and the world where there are different portals
and ancient, ancient pathways and ancient ways
and ancient beings that are there,
that are waiting for the sons to go and engage with them.
So it was a powerful thing we got to meet with the shaman,
we got to do a nippy or sweat lodge,
we got like that.
Awesome.
We have this for what the Christians had done.
It was very powerful.
I was teaching on Enoch, Markaba,
What does that mean from activating it from the heart of God?
How do we activate it?
What's the purpose of that?
We engage with the ancient spirits of the land,
the good ones that are operating out of the heart of the father.
It was insanely powerful.
And my desire was that not one person leaves unchanged.
Like, there will be a tangible change.
And I'm telling you, Derek, there
was people that had encounters with children
that they lost, that they've never been able to ascend.
It was just absolutely remarkable.
Ancient warrior showed up.
So yes, we engage with the land, we engage with the elements,
we engaged with celestial beings with,
it's just, we did, like I said, a cacao ceremony.
It was remarkable, just so much, so much, so much.
So, yeah, I think this is an incredible thing
that God is calling us back to realizing,
to engage with Earth, with Mother Earth,
with the elements, with everything he's created.
They don't belong to the enemy.
They're ours.
And they're waiting for us to engage with them.
So yeah.
That's also just a snippet, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I love it.
There's a fascination with it.
There's a return to the ancient path.
I mean, the scripture says that.
And it says you'll find a rest for you.
So obviously, we're living in the technological events age,
and we're moving further and further into computers
screens and technology and all of this kind of stuff. But there, you know, there has to be the
sacred marriage of the ancient path and the ground and the ancient ways. You know, so to go back
and remember the ways of our ancestors. And I think the more study, you know, as far as we're looking
into, like you understand, the biblical studies and then ancient history, we'd see that the early
church knew about this stuff. They knew how to engage. Jesus was meeting with Enoch, I mean Moses
and Elijah from beyond the veil that were teaching him as ascended masters, like you know what I'm
saying? So to give all of that stuff away, the early church knew about this stuff for sure.
Yeah, and remember the scripture that says, you know, stand at the crossroads and look for the
ancient ways, ancient pathways, ask for the ancient pathways, and walk in them. So there's
look, see, and walk in them. And those ancient pathways were ancient even to the patrons.
If they called them ancient, what do we call them? And those ancient pathways lead us to the
ancient of days and mysteries that had been held for such a time as this and a mystery is
only held a mystery till spirit of truth comes. The moment truth comes, a mystery is no longer
mystery, it becomes a revelation. And this is what we're supposed to do. Relationship brings forth
revelation. So there's always a mystery waiting for us to engage with it. So then then it can
become truth that then transforms us and the cultures and humanity and the planet and the cosmos
and the planet systems and the universe and the multiverse is so ancient pathways are crucial
for us to understand and walk in them, that lead to the ancient updates. Because, you know,
there's other ancient pathways that lead to other, you know, for sure. We've got to learn from
history, right? You know, but if it works, you know, why get rid of it? You know, I think that that's
like, you know, like the, you know, I think what most of us are doing with our faith and
is like just holding on to the good stuff, holding on to the parts of Christianity that work.
The parts that don't work and we're judgmental and bigoted, listen, you guys can have it. We
don't want that. But we are keeping peace. We are keeping love. We are keeping prayer. We're
keeping devotion. We're keeping intimacy. We're keeping, you know, this hunger for the secret place.
Like we're keeping all of this stuff that works and just getting rid of all of the stuff that
that didn't serve us.
Yeah, and you know Derek, it's so frustrating to me
because the problem I think that many or some have
is that they say, well, that's not in the Bible.
Well, let me get something straight here.
Okay, let's see, Jesus himself said
that everything that I have done is not written down
because there would not be enough libraries
in the world to contain everything that I have done.
So go do that and then some more.
So here we're judging.
So what we've been programmed to believe is this.
My personal encounter and relationship
with my Heavenly Father, I didn't even know middle man.
Jesus was it.
I don't need a priest.
I don't need a pastor to tell me what to believe
and how to believe it.
If I have a personal relationship with my creator,
with my father, and because of Jesus Christ, I understand that.
So what I was told is that, wait a minute,
my personal revelation, ascension,
encounter with my father and Jesus means nothing because if it's not in the Bible and if it does
not line up with the with the writings of men oh my gosh I know I'm gonna get some slack on this
yeah you guys they wrote their experiences yes it's incredible but all of the apostles wrote down
their encounters and their experiences okay so that was supposed to be for us a stepping stone
into me building a personal relationship about what we have in program to believe is that if my
personal encounter does not fit in the opinion shared of those incredible 12 men, then bad, bad, bad.
Or if my posture does not agree with my encounter, so do you understand it's belittering?
It's absolutely just a canceling out my personal relationship. That is very dangerous. So that's,
Again, the problem has been, oh, it's not in the Bible. Well, the apostles did not have
Bible until 300 years. And there's many books. I'm not even going to go there with
Constantine and stuff. It's just we have to get outside the moment any book becomes a prison
cell for who I am to fully operate out of them. Who God is? There's a problem. I don't
care what book it is. That's good. Yeah. The interesting thing from what I bring to
But there's a lot of cool stuff in it though that because I like because I like to say I told you so
You know, it's like hey, that's not in the Bible. I'm like one a bet looking here
There's crystals they use crystals to change their you know, or it feels so that they can talk to God when they put these crystals together
And I like to show them
Because there's so much in there not to not to get rid of it because there's that movement to where people say yeah
I don't need the scriptures
Jesus, you know that kind of that's when we get on trouble. I I believe personally anything and this is what I say to people and this is my
Personal stance anything that denies who Jesus is I
Get away from
And the the Bible is very important. It's like a plum line, but it's not it
It's not the only thing and yes, you know and one of the and the retreats that I did one of the teachings I did was
are nine bodies, you know, we actually have nine bodies and I'm sure there's more and kind
of people's jaws were on the floor. Well, there are scriptures for all of them in the Bible.
We just have never seen it like that. So, absolutely, there's so much scripture there that we have
just never seen it because we've been programmed and blinded by religion when it actually is in
there. So, again, the Bible is phenomenal. You guys keep treating your Bible if you're reading
can get, but don't stop. Don't stop just because you don't find that they're don't throw
out your personal encounter with a father and a Jesus. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, there's some
some stuff. It's hard to explain some stuff. It may take you a while stuff, stuff, stuff
does start making sense, but it's because we didn't have the grid though. No, we were
starting. We didn't, we read about the morning stars singing out in the heavens. And then
And we just kind of keep reading, and we understand,
as I hold on, it's different when you've been meditating
or stargazing, and then you can hear the song of the stars.
And then you read that again.
That means something totally different to you now.
So we didn't have a grid for any of this stuff.
I don't know why, probably because of religion
and it was tactfully done.
But once you're illuminated with the light of Christ,
the light of love, you're able to understand
the mysteries of God.
And they were there the whole time, but they were hidden.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, Derek, the thing is fear has done such a great job
at keeping us as prisoners in prison.
Because fear is always there saying, well, did God release?
Are you sure I?
The moment we give in to that, I'm telling you
is when we allow that thing to mess with our blueprint,
because we have been created to do as he is,
I would see now, whoa, pretty freaky looking,
pretty powerful, so am I,
now when I die in this world.
That's what the scripture says.
So the thing is, you know, we have so been so afraid
to step into these things,
but we have it in us.
It's his power to works in us.
And this is what we need to understand.
Anything, any revelation, any mystery that becomes
I'm guilty.
If it shows you who you really are
and the power that he put in you,
it is not a demon trying to tell you that.
Because a demon will never let you know
how powerful you are, because once you know who you are,
have the battle is gone.
By the same token, no matter how comfortable
the message that you hear is,
how comfortable you feel that you've heard
your grandparents teach on this.
if it denies the power that is inside of you,
then that's not a godly message.
So, you know, we have to just, oh, that's demonic,
or that's evil, that's really,
will a demon teach you who you really are
and the power that you have,
the light that you have to dispel the darkness.
So, you know, but fear just paralyzes us
from thinking straight, really.
And now have you, you know,
I know you're so optimistic and you're wide-eyed
and hopeful for the future and you've seen what's coming,
but have you stepped into anything that's been scary,
that's been fearful that made you take a second glance
or kind of checked you or any of that,
was it all scary at first until you kind of get used to it?
No, I have to tell you, I grew up in a Romanian kind
of coastal movement and everything was based on fear.
Everything, you know, and then I was in deliverance ministry
for years and inner healing.
And during that time, we focused on everything that was evil.
We looked for demons under every rock, we looked.
And during that time, there was a lot of scary stuff
because what happens is whatever you focus on,
multiples, right?
Yeah.
So, but the moment since in 20,
I wanna say 2013, the Lord there was a shift that happened.
And he took me to places and he taught me
to get my ass off of that and put it on him.
moment I started doing that there was there was just clarity there was no fear
there was no now as far as the future I did have not not I didn't have like a
fear like but I did have a freaky moment just kind of I'm just gonna say in
November we're like what yeah let's talk and again the father said
Karina put your eyes on this on me and I have I have it all. So I think there's a two part of
question answer maybe to your question. The moment we take our eyes off of dark stuff and we put
it on light that has no effect on us. So and many times you know there's there's people on
leaders leaders on Facebook and everywhere that they look for demons under everything. They look for
symbolism under everything. You know, I'm just like, oh my gosh, you know, there's a
little mouse tail on the end of the name and that person. It's like, my gosh, we're going
from one extreme to the other. Yeah. We're crying wolf. And, you know, we're losing people.
So it's like, just focus on the father's heart, just focus on relationship, just focus on light,
just focus on the creative light love that creates what is not there yet. So that's the
the only thing that's going to change anything.
It's powerful enough to do it as well.
And for you to walk in, it's possible just for people
to walk in peace right now, in the midst of a place where
the whole world is turned upside down
and people are at that question and they're scared
rightfully so.
But in the midst of that, you can still
walk in this supernatural peace and rest of God
that surpasses all understanding, right?
Like, come on, I don't want,
I don't got vigilant, I don't want nothing
to take that away from me.
No conspiracy theory, no people DMing me videos
and message, listen, you ain't trying to steal my piece.
Well, I'm just trying to wake you up.
So you see, listen, that's not my reality.
You know, and all of this,
keep creating new ways to do wickedness
and new ways to bring anxiety.
Listen, there's an ancient path that has given me peace
And I refuse, I'm going to fight for it.
I'm going to do whatever I can to be a peacemaker
because there's a blessing in it for me.
The scripture says, yes, it are the peacemakers.
And so making peace with everything and everyone,
my enemies, my friends, my families,
the spirits that are out there,
our cosmic brothers and sisters,
the elementials and those make peace with everything man.
And that's what we should be fighting for for sure.
Yeah, and that does not mean you deny
that there's horrible stuff out there.
It's just learning to walk that line
to where you see it, but you focus on the light.
So you can release that light.
So then that light can create what needs to be created.
Because the truth is there's so much horrific things
out there and it can suck you in.
That's why your focus needs to,
the focus always needs to be on, okay, I see this,
but now I'm seeing this.
This is what I'm releasing,
because we're gates, we're portals.
So when we enter into his heart
and allowed that river of love to flow
that creative light, it flows out of us,
out of our portals, and it literally creates
what needs to be there?
And that will overtake the evil, the atrocities,
you know, whatever.
So absolutely don't let yourself be sucked.
And it can happen.
You can't get sucked in the fear and all this stuff.
The moment you feel fear, turn the other way.
Yeah, yeah, just opposite of face, you know, it was supposed to rise up in faith and it is our inheritance, a piece that surpasses all understanding that if you try to understand it, you can't, you can't search the depths of it.
It's so good.
And we got to be engaging that and walking with that, living with that, dreaming with that for sure.
Yeah. And at least that piece, you know, you release that, you
release that, you know, because for instance, what we're dealing
with in revolution this year is some horrific things that a
lot of people couldn't handle hearing it. Yeah. But the thing
is you learn how to cover that with the light and the love
and the peace. And that will change the situation. So it's not
like we're sticking our head in the sand being ignorant about it.
That's not the case. The case is you realize what it is. Okay.
Well, I know I'm not supposed to engage the same thing. I'm supposed to engage the opposite to
release that in order to change this. So yeah, that's, it's so crucial. Yeah.
I'm going to open up this portion of the discussion for anybody who has any questions,
so people who are listening on YouTube or Facebook, wherever you're listening at,
you could type it there in the chat if you have a question for Karina or myself,
or for those of you who are patrons, you guys can join in the Zoom link. I've seen some people
try to join earlier, but just wanted to wait for a good portion of the discussion to go down
before we opened it up. So if you guys want to join the discussion, make sure you join in and
we'll let you ask questions and all that good stuff. And I'll try to ask them myself.
Who are some of the people that you've been checking out, right? Because there's other people
again who aren't, you know, they wouldn't call themselves Christians by the definition of a church
goer, but, you know, they all, you know, light, light workers, you know, they are carrying
that, that, that a divine blueprint and that light of Christ, I would say, who are some
of the people that, that maybe you've been gleaming from or, or studying or some, some of
their work that's, that, that's caught your attention recently that, that, that are doing
good in, in the earth right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had the honor to do a couple of interviews with her and April Elizabeth April. She's a
light worker. She's incredible and another one is Elena. I know Americans call her Elena, but
because I'm Romania, I can say Elena. She's an incredible, incredible woman that has a huge
story to regarding abductions.
And I've been watching her stuff recently.
I just, I just came across my stream.
That's a real thing.
That's awesome.
So I'm going to get to an interview in a couple of weeks.
So I'm excited about it because she brings a side of the cosmic
war that the reality of what's happening,
but with so much wisdom and with so much love and with so much hope.
So I absolutely love that.
And El Dora.
She's another light worker and she's right now in Costa Rica.
And again, they bring so much wisdom.
They bring so much wisdom.
And you can't necessarily say they're Christians,
but they do walk and they do walk in the light
and they do honor Yeshua.
So anyway, so these are just a few of them.
But yeah, there's a lot of amazing people, yeah.
Have you checked out the work of James Gilliland at all?
Have you checked them out?
No, no, no, no.
Okay, I've seen Shynell's actually interviewing him right now.
And he was the guy early on for me that was a lot of his stuff
with engaging the, you know, some people will call him ETs,
you know, our space, our space brothers,
our celestial brothers, and sisters, or the angels or whatever.
So his work early on was huge for me, James Gillin and what he said he ran.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, definitely check him out.
Can he check that out?
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
So, I think we have Stephanie Jones here with this, my friends.
Stephanie's amazing too. She's doing a good work. You there with us, Stephanie?
Hi, can you hear me? Yeah, hi, Stephanie. Hi, Karina. How are you doing?
Yeah, thank you. So good to have you on. Oh, thank you. Yeah, no, this is such an inspiring
conversation. Hey, God, God. Awesome. Awesome. You have any questions or anything to add to it,
Stephanie? Oh, I've been active in the chat. What did I say? Just agreeing a lot. And I just
have you ever read the Gospel of Mary? I read only a little bit of it. Yeah, because I've been
following him met again, Waterston. And she is all about the Gospel of Mary. And I've been quite
excited about that. Yeah, there is a lot of truth that's coming out about Mary
that the religious spirits have like wanted to destroy and squish and cover up so
yeah all these books that have been written that were hidden you know now they've
been found and I'm telling you guys there they have a lot of truth in and
Now we have to use spirit of discernment to discern, but there's a lot of truth.
So yeah, her, I've started her gospel, but I'm not done with it, so yeah.
Yeah, I'm pretty inspired by it and just really interested in what, you know, what her
life looked like.
We don't hear much of her in the Gospels.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can definitely talk quite a bit on that,
but that would have to be a different interview with Derek,
because there is definitely a lot about that.
There's a lot, and it's cool stuff.
It's amazing, it's beautiful things, so yeah.
She's not what the church has made her out to be for sure.
So when you say we're all portals,
can you expand more on that?
Absolutely, so, you know, scientifically speaking,
our DNA, human DNA is a portal.
So Russian scientists took human DNA and put it in a special vacuum and they started the vacuum and the human DNA literally opened up into a black hole or a portal.
So remember when the scripture says, lift up your heads or your gates and let the king of glory come in, we are literally gates, you know.
Um, our brothers and sisters, new agers call them, um,
shock rods on the church has freaked out about that literally their vortexes.
Literally their portals were energy can flow in and out.
What energy, the energy of the ultimate energy, the creative power that created us.
So we are literally portals, literally, literally portals, not only our DNA,
but literal portals of energy that we have in our bodies.
So and whatever we engage with is it if it's evil if it's scary if it's freaking out
That's going to flow through us that energy and it's gonna flow out in the atmosphere around us
And it's gonna create their reality the moment we allow the fathers love that creators love to flow into us
We become a portal for that and that's going to go around us and literally form that reality that's connected to the heart of the father
So you guys we need to keep that in mind
We are portals. Be careful what you take in and what your it is.
Yeah, that's good.
What was that?
Meet me and Sean, I'll talk about it the other day, but I think it was Psalm 103.
That says that I was setting a wicked thing before my eyes.
And it says anything pretty much that I look at us that I see will not cling to me.
I'm not going to allow it to cling to me.
So because everything is a portal.
And that's interesting too, when you think about gratitude or spending time with the father,
every heartache, every failure, every situation, every circumstance, every blessing is a portal that you can go into
in the spirit of gratitude and experience another revelation of the father using it as a portal.
Jesus was the ultimate one, but there's so many things in our lives that allow us to...
So if we bring it into the now moment
into this place of gratitude,
we can experience it as a gateway to the father.
Yeah, and Derek, you said something so powerful
that Jesus was the ultimate portal.
If we truly understand that Jesus became the ultimate trade
in order for us to walk in complete freedom
because the enemy required the most powerful frequency,
the most powerful currency which is blood,
Jesus became the ultimate trade.
And everywhere he bled, that became a portal.
Yeah, that's good.
So we can walk into that portal
receive the fullness of the victory that he won for us through him
trading his body and his flesh. So yeah, so good, so good.
Let me, let me ask you about this too. Not to be little, obviously, the, you
know, the, the, the, the work and the manifestation that you, you guys are
seeing in the spirit, when you guys engage, there are stains that are happening
in the physical. And whatever spirituality we have, that has to be happening.
like it's got to be happening. If not, it's vanity of the mind, right. So whatever we're engaging
inwardly spiritually, we need to see some outward manifestation or transformation. And you guys
are seeing that. But I want to know, have you seen anything cross over as far as entities are
concerned? Have you seen any of the angelic beings, any of the elementals, where when you open
your eyes you can physically see them or they're you know in our realm or whatever have you had
those encounters? Yeah there have been quite a few actually and one of them um uh last Friday night we
discussed a lady in our group had one when she was walking the Ozark mountains you know she was
writing her four-wheeler. Hope I get this right. And she, a Sasquatch came forward and was engaging
her. And it was incredible, incredible how she told them. She said, you know, I know you're much
more powerful than me and you can kill me, you know. And she said, but I know who I am. And I know
who's I am. And because of that, I know that I'm strong. And he literally put his hand on her hand
as she was holding the, you know, the whatever, you call it. And he looks straight into her eyes
and it goes, you are absolutely right. You know who you are. And so those actually, so yes, so things,
yes, so these beings, these entities are literally manifesting. So because of that, now we've
engaged with them to help us find children and, you know, or people that have been taken in woods and,
you know stuff that's been happening so yeah absolutely absolutely with yeah so that has happened
in the natural what do you think it is because people you know want them to intervene and we want
to be saved right but there's like this thing where they will work with us but they don't want
to do our work like it's up to us to ascend to evolve to choose love and to take care of our
own mess. And so they're assisting in that, and they're watching. They've been here since
the beginning. What, you know, I'm saying, why is that? Do you think that they just, you
know, want us to choose love ourselves and have been patient with us?
Yeah. And this is the thing. Like I was saying, I believe I was saying this with you because
I'm sorry I had two more interviews prior today. So I'm not sure who I said it to, but
I think it was you. There's enough angels that God can send them down and they can
annihilate all the evil. They're not going to do it because it's not their job, their job,
the job of the angels and the job of our cosmic brothers and sisters, if you're well,
are to assist and help the sons. Not to take our place. So I had a huge encounter one time years
of all the day, really fast. I was saving certain children and I was flying and taking them and
all the time I was being overtaken by these dark forces. I was literally flying with children
help, you know, protecting them. And all of a sudden, I said, Daddy, I need help. And these huge
angels came along my right and my left. And we picked up like speed of like, and I was telling
them the angels while we were flying. Oh, thank you so much for for doing this. And they stopped
and they said, Oh, we're not doing it. You're doing it. We just came into agreement with what you're
doing. We came to assist in what you're doing. So absolutely, they're only going to come around
and step into and help us when we're already doing something just like the Lord you know it's like
oh you know we have to do what we have to do and we can't do what he steps in the same thing
with them it's our job so they're here to help us and in that it's becoming a training for us
we are growing up out of being spoiled little brats that always give me gimme gimme and expecting
something to fall in our hands we're actually getting up and doing it and then they're coming
long side of us helping us, but it starts with us making a choice to get up and do something.
Yeah, that's a good point, Derek. Yeah, they take notice, right?
Oh, heck. Whenever you're doing the work, yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. And it's like that
with everything. It's like that with the, you know, with the elements. It's like that with the
angels. It's like that with cosmic brothers. It's like that with, that's our fathers. It's like that
with, you know, whatever, you know, Holy Spirit. They're there to help us as we step out and do what
what we must do.
Did Chris Carter write the forward to your new voice?
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Love him.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure you see we have a webinar coming up this morning.
Yes, I saw that.
Yeah, yeah, I saw that it's awesome.
I'll get to do something within here in Nashville
the end of this month and then something in Florida.
So he's incredible.
Awesome.
We've been talking about the elements a lot.
I have a song I did with Aluminatic Congo,
a while about called the invisible creatures
of the five elements.
And it was kind of like paying homage of veneration,
just saying their names, if you will,
the spirits that operate on those levels of frequency
for the elements, earth, air, fire, water, and ether.
And so we did a song and there's a visual,
really, really cool stuff.
And we've been having the conversation lately
where we've seen all these forest fires and tsunamis
and earthquakes, all of these things that are happening.
And I have to, you know,
it goes back to a little matter of Congo
because he said it first, but he, you know,
he goes out and builds fires and communicates
and, you know, gets in the water and all that.
And he's really mindful about working with the elements.
And he said, if we worked on our relationship
with the beings, you know, on those planes of existence,
then maybe we wouldn't be seeing as many forest fires.
maybe we wouldn't see as many, you know,
these storms and tsunamis and stuff.
And it really hit me when I was on a retreat with Kingdom Talks.
And so there was an Alabama and there was a lightning storm.
Just a, I mean, it was popping everywhere.
The power went out.
It was insane.
And then what Illuminati Congo told me, it hit me.
And I was like, you know what, it's like a little kid.
Like when a kid is trying to get your attention,
they're gonna lash out.
They're gonna act out and do stuff to make you
get their attention because you haven't been noticing them.
So it's like, if we fixed our relationship
with those beings that we might not see
as much atrocities as we do,
and it just changes, looking at Jesus working
with the elements, not commanding,
I commend that storm to be silent, to be still.
What if he just asked them?
Because he had that relationship with those beings
and said, hey, people are getting scared,
can you calm down and let us pass through?
What if there was this relationship
that Jesus had with the elements
that wasn't forgotten about?
So that's something really interesting for us
to look into, to say hello.
We've been ignoring that.
Absolutely.
We know just even to say your name,
introduce yourself, build a fire in your backyard
and say hello, man, and just see what happens.
We're desperate, we need to do it.
But see again, with that Derek fear keeps a lot of them,
a lot of people back, especially the ones
that we came out of the Christian, you know, not out of it,
but we're awakening into the next level, glory to glory,
because we're thinking, wait a minute,
if I honor them or communicate with them,
I'm worshiping them and we need to understand that.
Just because I honor you, Derek,
and I communicate with you and we collaborate
and we chat does not mean I worship you.
So it's just, so we need to understand they are here.
They're waiting for us to engage with them,
like you said, to build a relationship.
And that does not mean you're worshiping them.
It just means all of creation, including the fairies,
including the water beings, the wind, all of that.
They're waiting to engage with us as the suns.
And they wanna come alongside and help us.
So I love that.
I think that's beautiful.
And Christopher does an amazing job
introducing people to all these beautiful beings
that are connected to the elements.
I love that, I love that.
You guys are doing that.
For sure, I wrote about it in my book,
but there was a time in the scriptures
where I think it was named Manoa,
who was, he built the fire,
and this being travels down through the fire.
And it says in angel,
but we know that the word angel just means a messenger.
It was a being that carried a message.
and it came through the fire as a portal,
communicated with them, went back into the fire
to travel back to heaven.
So if we're thinking about that,
that's like, that's an elemental being,
a being that travels through the element of fire
to communicate with God's children.
Like, we're talking about, you know,
the connection with these, you know,
beings of the elements come on.
It's right there in the scripture,
it's been there the whole time, we don't even see it.
Oh yeah, a lot of it is there.
We just again, yeah, you're right,
haven't seen it, you know, a lot of it is there. And I love it. I love that the Lord is
awakening us into these truths. And so truth is here. The being of truth is here, ready to
reveal all these things to us. But we have to make a choice to step outside of fear
and engage the Father's heart and say, okay, I'm ready to relearn. Teach me. Teach me.
And anything that points you back to who he is and who you are is not the enemy. We just,
I mean, we gotta bring it down really simple.
I mean, come on, anything that points you back to who
you truly are and who he is, it is not a, a, a, a, a
believer.
It's not how to believe in.
So yeah.
As long as it's pointing you back to love, like love wins
at the end of the day.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
That's the, that's the fruit that we need in our lives.
Corinne, is there anything that we didn't touch on?
That's one you're hard that you want to share before
go. No, I think, you know, I just want to, I want to really encourage your viewers, whoever's
just watching this too. Don't feed this fear-mongering thing that's happening. Don't allow fear
to trap you to kind of paralyze you in its grip. Remember who you are. You are not this victim.
You are not your circumstances. You are not the trauma that you've been through. You are not
what the media says. You are not what it looks like out there. You are a son of the most powerful
God in every realm and every dimension and every multiverse that there is. He is not only your creator,
he's not only your creator, he's your father. His DNA is literally pulsating inside your DNA.
remember who you are and remember you are a creator. It all of the these
particle subatomic particles that are around you are waiting for you as an
observer as a son of the most powerful force that is out there to start
creating his light, his love, his government, which is all about love. So
do not anything that speaks to you opposite to who you are, turn your ear away from it.
And remember, if you find yourself in the midst of chaos, a fear of horrific situations,
of circumstances, do not give it power by observing it, train yourself to turn away from it.
What do you want your future to look like? What do you want your today to look like?
What do you want this next moment to look like for you?
You have that power in you to create it.
So you look at what you want it to be and you speak that out.
You look to that no matter what this illusion says, because you have to understand the
evil one is the master of illusions and an illusion can feel as real as a reality.
But you are the one that creates your reality.
So again, do not look at what you're going through, look at what you desire to walk through
what he spoke in your original blueprint and speak that out.
So I encourage you, turn off the TV if you have to, turn off the radio, you know, put
boundaries if you have to and just focus on whatever gives you hope.
There is a hope out there.
He has a plan and a purpose for your life.
And if you have children, remember, your children and all future generations are depending
on you.
You are the one that creates the reality that they will walk in, so I encourage you to do
that.
Amen.
Beautifully said, Karina, thank you so much for the encouragement and just allowing us
to see what's possible, to see the reality that you're living in, and the place that
you're fighting from, a place of victory, and it's fun, it's engaging.
So there's a lot of people who want to know how to engage.
They want to engage with you.
You talked about doing these things in your group
on Friday nights.
I know for a while it was kind of like hush, hush stuff.
Is it something that people need to message you
to be a part of or how can they link up
what you want on these?
Yeah, absolutely.
So if you guys want to find us,
the group is called Revolution is Here.
And you can find us on Facebook.
And what we have is we have four questions
before you are led in the group.
We would just wanna make sure that people
that come in there are serious about this stuff.
We don't want no religious crap.
We don't want no, we want somebody,
we want people that are ready to step into the heart
of the father and release love and release light.
That's it.
So if you feel a drawing towards it, again,
the revolution is here, there are four questions
that you please answer all four of them.
And then an admin will let you in.
We meet every Friday night,
people from literally around the world,
every Friday night and seven,
30 central center time.
And we just, we ascend.
And sometimes you go four hours,
sometimes five hours,
sometimes three hours,
and we just take care of business.
Awesome.
Yeah.
And then people who wanna get your books
and all that good stuff that's on Amazon.
Yeah, all our books are in Amazon.
And also, also,
Kingdewreflections.org.
But yes, you can find all our books on Amazon
and YouTube, the quest for truth.
and the incredible music and all of that was done
by, he Derek Heltas and Karen Rich,
he did the beautiful visuals, thank you Wendy.
So yeah, yeah, you guys can find us, yeah, all over.
Yeah, thank you so much for coming on Karina,
always, always a privilege and honor
and I love sharing you with the community.
And you know, you always so fired up and encouraged,
man we need that we need that fight man you know we got it we got to stay in it's easy to
it's easy to give up there's a lot of people giving up right now you know so for you yeah so for
us to see you not giving up and you still having that fight and being hungry today just as much
as you were when all this was brand new listen it speaks volumes Karina thank you so much thank you
thank you guys don't give up don't give up don't give up absolutely not thank you Derek for having me
on it was so much fun and such a pleasure thank you so much for sure we'll definitely do it again
Thank you so much.
I love you.
Bye.
Bye.
Thanks, guys.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Karina Potaki.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Hope you guys enjoyed that.
Stephanie, you still with us here in Zoom?
Yeah, I'm still here.
Awesome.
What'd you think?
Are you familiar with her?
No.
I've never.
It was amazing.
Oh, yeah, she's awesome.
I agree with everything she said.
And I was like, I want to hear more.
or so that's exciting.
What was her Facebook again?
Corinna Pataki.
P-A-T-A-K-I.
Didn't she say revolution something?
Yeah, her Facebook group, I think it's revolution is now.
But yeah, you'll be able to contact her via Facebook
if you wanna get in on that too, so.
Oh, sorry, there's noise here.
Check it out.
So thanks everybody for hanging out with us in the chat, man.
See a lot of people, revolution is here.
Yeah, it's for everyone saying in chat.
Thanks for hanging out and paying attention
to the conversation, bunch of beautiful souls
hanging out with us, man.
You guys are awesome.
Thank you all for being a part of this conversation.
Let me know who you guys would love to see on the podcast
and picking their brain and jumping in a deep conversation
with them.
Let me know, send me a message and let me know.
And I'll try to get them on.
I'm booked up probably about two months now with shows
and we got a lot of awesome people coming on
and a lot of deep discussion.
We'll be doing another podcast tomorrow,
talking about Oris.
There's this guy, Sergio, who just started seeing Oris
out of the blue and trying to figure out what it was.
And it's really interesting
because I've been hearing a lot of people talk about this.
They start seeing Oris and then they go to the doctor.
They go and they have 2020 vision or 10, 10 vision.
Their vision improves.
They start seeing lights around people
and they spiral into a spiritual awakening by seeing aura.
So that's all we're gonna be talking about tomorrow.
That my guest is gonna be talking about that
and it's gonna be exciting.
So make sure you guys stay tuned for that live stream, 10 a.m.
on Thursday, 10 a.m. central.
So we go live every Tuesday and Thursday, 10 a.m.
And then we like to do these make shift wins
on Wednesday night sometime for those who can't catch us
during those normal times.
So make sure y'all tune in, subscribe,
hit the notification bell, all that stuff.
Man, I've been dealing with COVID, man.
So that's been a roller coaster.
This past 10 days dealing with it.
And it's literally been a roller coaster up and down.
and sickness and inhales, it's just been a trip.
So yeah, some of the last, I continue to do podcast
and I'm still not 100% at health,
so make sure you guys send me some healing vibes
and good energy in me and my wife.
We've both been walking through that together,
but we are wide-eyed and hopeful,
but it's not been easy, but all things are possible.
So we appreciate your prayers and support.
And a lot of people have been reaching out.
I did a video on Facebook,
just kind of giving an update about the symptoms and all that.
But it's very strange, very strange.
I'm not an expert.
I do know that it's real.
Some kind of sickness is real
and it affected us worse than any sickness I've ever had.
So make sure you guys take care of your health.
Remember the breeze, do your breath work, grounding,
listen, all this spiritual talk is not for not.
It's for you to apply these principles.
It's for you to engage.
It's for you to build your face to know what's possible
and then start applying it to your life.
Taking care of your health is huge, a spirituality
that doesn't have real world implications
or physical body implications is again, vanity of the mind.
You're making it up.
It has to have real world implications.
So all of the stuff that we're talking about,
it's to help you when you need it and we need it every day.
So if there's any time for you to take your health seriously
and to start doing the stuff that you know
you're supposed to be doing, taking care of your diet,
you know you're supposed to,
where you need to quit eating,
stay away from certain materials, start fasting, start praying, start reading, devotion times,
all of that now is the time.
Like it's, it's high time that we awaken from our slumber and awake out of sleep.
And, uh, and there's a lot of tools and a lot of things that we have that we can guard
ourselves, guard our hearts and guard our minds so that we will be taken care of.
So make sure that, uh, that, that you're doing all that stuff, tap in, like Adam, start
I see bass as here in chat.
Yup, get out into nature and let the sun help heal you.
Yup, get in nature, take your shoes off, sit in the sun,
put your feet on the ground, earthing, all that man.
Grounding, get out the toxins out of you.
Now more than ever, do you need it?
So take the precautions.
So with that, I'm gonna say peace and shalom, man.
Thank you guys for hanging out and we'll do it again
very soon.
Peace, peace, love you guys.
Shalom.
So much higher than mine, so much higher than mine, so much higher than mine, so much higher than mine, so much higher than mine, so much higher than mine, so much more than mine.
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