How To Use Astrology For Business Coaching! Deb Peretz PHD
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joining us today is miss deb perez deb
how are you
perez did i say it right yes yes
awesome good to have you my friend and
uh thank you i think the stars have
aligned and
the moon is is in such a beautiful
position for us to be having this show
we've been
doing some moon gazing and stargazing
the last couple days so i'm
excited to get into this talk with you
and explore your journey and
your expertise well thank you for having
me i'm delighted to be here
i always love um talking about
such important topics that can really
help improve
our lives awesome so we'll start out for
people who don't know who you are just
kind of giving you a little bit of
giving them a little bit of background
about who you are what you bring to the
table we'll start there
okay i call myself a karmic success
coach because
what i do is i help people align with
their karmic path
and that in a nutshell
is what we're here to do that's why we
incarnate in a body right we
our soul determines the lessons that we
want to focus on
and we come in and we have one goal in
this life
and that is to learn those lessons and
evolve as a soul
so i hope people do that and i use a
variety of techniques
but my secret sauce is evolutionary
astrology
and i that's the foundation
the birth chart from the evolutionary
astrology perspective
is a curriculum for your life right this
is this is the curriculum you're here
to learn so i help people do that
and i use coaching techniques um
i'm a martha beck life coach and i have
a background in
education so especially adult learning
which means i have expertise in
cognitive psychology developmental
psychology
positive psychology and my favorite is
applied neuroscience
we've learned so much about how the
brain works the past few decades
and you know it's very interesting how a
lot of it aligns
with what we've been told
about our true natures right beyond just
the five
physical senses that we can see so i i
use
techniques from all of those um fields
to help
my clients achieve their karmic success
that's awesome um so you you're applying
this
in in business how does that work you're
saying astrology
is the new business coach how does that
work with astrology in our businesses
so uh what it all started because i was
doing life coaching and i found that
most
of my clients were also entrepreneurs
and they wanted help not just getting
their lives in order but a big part of
their life
was their business so we started looking
at that
and the truth is that's just as much a
part of our life's curriculum as
anything else how many hours
um how what percentage of our lifetimes
are spell spent at work
so it really just fit nicely and
i as i was doing this work and i was
formalizing
my approach you know looking to see okay
how can we use astrology
to really help business owners
achieve their business goals as well as
their karmic goals and at the end of the
day
that's actually what it is you may have
known people who have
a business that is supremely
successful monetarily and they're
miserable right
or you may have people who really their
business isn't making that much
but it's exactly what they want and it's
perfect
so astrology will help you figure out
what's the right business for you
they're the ones who go into the family
business because it was expected of them
but it's not part of their path
there's the ones who thought they always
wanted to be one career
but they discover it's another so in
that sense i
use the birth chart in evolutionary
astrology
to help them grow the right business
that will bring them joy because when
your business is aligned with your
karmic purpose
that's where you find success in all the
different ways we define it
do most people that you work with kind
of know this deep down
or or do some or do you help people find
find this
i would i would say it's split some
people come to me they've already done
some work they they've either seen
astrologers they've been to
psychics they've um they've done their
own human design they've
they've done work but i would have to
say that most people
come to me within with an open curiosity
like they something inside them knows
this is right
so they find me somehow but one of the
things they say
is you know what you do sounds
really important i'm not really sure
what it is and how it works
and that's why i started my podcast
planets and profit
it was a way to show people what
business astrology looks like in action
that's awesome and so i guess uh so
is your is your life and your business a
reflection of what you do
like did you is this how you stepped
into your purpose as well
yes you may know that um often we learn
things the hard way and then we like to
take what we learned and use it to help
other people avoid the mistakes we made
so absolutely so if you think about it
um the karmic journey is
has two parts to it one is the karmic
baggage that we bring with us
into this world and that um
contrary to popular belief it's not so
much if you've stolen a past life
someone's going to steal from you in
this life
it's actually more like habit bad habits
right
so if if you had past lives of
uh being betrayed by someone very close
to you
you're going to bring that sense of oh i
can't trust people close to me into this
life so it becomes
habit predisposition and at the other
end of it is our evolutionary intent
what we're here to learn and that always
involves
getting out of your comfort zone right
so we default
to our karmic um past our stuckness and
that's what keeps us stuck
and we really have to find courage to
embrace
the evolutionary intent what does that
have to do with the question you just
asked
well i spent my most of my life in a
career in education
and i loved it i love teaching i love
the people i met i
i meet or met um
and one of my dreams when i was a child
was to be a college professor
so when i got my dream job i'm like i'm
living the dream this is awesome
and the universe sent me signs saying
you know this isn't really what you're
supposed to be doing
and i ignored them because this was my
dream job right
and um it wasn't until the universe had
to you know the universe will send you
gentle signs first
right and you can listen and go or you
can ignore them and then they send
stronger signs right until the very end
it just has to you know like
walk you on the side of the head it's
like you're saying you are in the wrong
path get over
move move lanes so that's kind of what
happened to me
and um basically i went up for tenure
and i didn't get it and so i was you
know it's at this point where i had to
decide okay
i can just go and start over at another
college
or i realized that i started you know
becoming aware
of all the signs that i had been
ignoring and it's like okay the universe
has given me an opportunity here to
realign
and the truth is it's right there in my
birth chart
my karmic past is all about teaching
within established structures
so and that's what i was doing i was
first a school teacher then i was a
college professor
that was my path and it was also my
strength
i'd spent lifetimes doing this so it was
very easy for me
but in my birth chart you could see that
what i was here to do
had to do with teaching um
about spiritual soul
lessons and issues and that sort of
thing
not in these established even
conservative structures
so i learned the hard way i've never
been happier since i left
higher ed right starting my own business
at you know i'm
i'm not young uh past middle age
and starting a business from scratch is
really scary and it really is outside
the comfort zone
but it was my path and once i aligned
with
it i was amazed that i ignored those
signs for so long
so i would like to help others and
that's what i do
i help others look at their birth chart
with an objective eye
and ask the hard questions are you
in the business or profession or career
because
it's easy because it's familiar it's
your karmic past
or are you embracing your evolutionary
intent
getting out of your comfort zone and
learning what you're here to do
wow that's so awesome now how long does
it take you to read somebody's chart is
just something that would take
hours or something that you can kind of
glance over really quick and know what
you're looking at
well that's a function both of the
experience of the astrologer but also
the
approach and style so
it takes me it takes me a fairly long
time
like i know some astrologers who've been
doing this for 40 years
they can just look at the chart and then
start talking for two hours right
but what i do i'm also
a psychic medium and i channel i'm very
closely connected to my guides and
sensitive to energy
so the truth is that when i start
working with the birth chart
doing my analysis i'll do that in
advance
of the reading and i connect to my
guides
who are then connected to the client's
guides and use whatever language that
you want the client's higher self
and i get the downloads so it does take
me a long time
to do it i am working on getting that
time down
a bit uh and and it's getting better
but because of the way i do it i'm never
going to be one of those people who will
pick up a chart and then do your reading
for two hours although having said that
when i have a conversation with someone
even when it's not a client and it's not
about a reading
i can't help but getting these downloads
that use astrology as a language right
so someone will be talking it's like
oh yeah i definitely hear some capricorn
moon
energy there or oh my god this has got
to be
you know a leo leo rising
so it does energy speaks to me
using the language of astrology um and
previous to that was using
language of tao sometimes i'll get it
via tarot
language now with that being said and
just with the conversation
and just meeting somebody whether it's
their aura or just kind of knowing
people types as you you kind of kind of
learn i guess
are you able to guess people's um birth
sign in
in uh astrological sign is that is that
something that happens like oh yeah
you're definitely
this yeah so yes and no
so many people who aren't familiar with
astrology they're familiar with the sun
sign right and they're pretty much
just focused on that the sun is
you know arguably the most important
planet in your birth chart
uh although i equate it i think it's
just as important as the moon
and the ascendant but there are 10
planets in your chart
plus the nodes of the moon plus the
angles
there's so much information in the chart
so just guessing someone's sun sign
that's just a parlor trick it's
meaningless what i get
is the energy so it's like oh yeah all
right i feel a lot of taurus
energy coming from you i can't tell you
if that's your sun sign
or your rising sign or maybe it's your
your mercury i won't it won't be that
specific and it doesn't have to be
but i was like oh you know what i'll bet
that you've got you know this really
sounds like you've got scorpio on the
mid heaven
and i'll i'll get that kind of info so
in my podcast what i do is
i interview entrepreneurs about their
journey
and i purposely don't look at their
chart before the podcast because i like
to play this game with myself
as so as i'm interviewing them i'll take
notes about what's coming to me
and then afterwards i'll look at their
charts to see and i and i have to say
all right toot my own horn but i am
usually right
again i won't say oh it's your sun sign
but i will say yeah
there's a lot of there's a lot of taurus
energy
around this i'll you know and it'll be
there
it's awesome so speaking of the moon and
in the planets
what's going on with the moon right now
april 20
29th we got a beautiful full moon but
is there something special about this
moon right now um
well i would like to say every moon's
kind of special but we had the full moon
on monday night and that was lovely
but what you really want to ask about is
the full moon next month may 26th we're
having
a lunar eclipse now
um the moon is centrally important in
fact i'm
i'm just starting a membership community
around
coaching with the moon but eclipses
are turbocharged super powerful moons
as far as um how it impacts our life
so for example a typical full moon like
the one we had on monday
that really the energy is is you know
for a couple of days around that full
moon
but with an eclipse the energy could
influence us for six weeks
uh and it usually signifies an important
development in one of our life stories
so i do a lot with the work of
an astrologer named dietrich pessen she
developed um well she studied
the the phases of the moon and she
discovered these
two and a half year um lunar phase
cycles that are re amazingly
aligned with things in our life that
come and go over two and a half years
so we can use the moon phases to help
leverage those themes and can't take
conscious
not control but with conscious intention
guide the development of these different
themes in our lives
and that's pretty powerful so i would
say every
every key moon phase i usually limit it
to the
four main phases um can really help us
navigate our life and growth
awesome that's awesome um so
again using astrology to uh
find out your soul's purpose align with
it and
what you're supposed to be doing um
that's one thing that you do and another
thing is it's like once you get into
that
right so that's a huge thing like
finding out what it is getting into it
and
a lot of us do that like i did that it
was very hard a lot of alchemy a lot of
you know saying yes and keep saying yes
and a lot of that kind of stuff and then
but once you get there sometimes it's
like okay
now what i'm here and these were my my
goals were to just get me here
and not like now that this is
established how do we scale
like how do we uh you know use astrology
to take the step
the next step the next moves and create
more goals for ourselves are we able to
use astrology to to do that
absolutely and great question so that's
why i
i hesitate to say hi i'm deb perez i'm
an astrologer
so i keep saying i'm an astrologer coach
because
how many times have you gone to an
astrologer or a psychic or medium and
had an amazing reading right
and you leave there and your head is
spinning with with ideas insights and
potential and exciting
and then you go home start doing errands
and you know
make dinner and do whatever you have to
do and before you know it six months has
gone by and it's like yeah i did nothing
you know it was great it was cool i did
nothing so
that's why it's really important the
coaching piece so like i said the birth
chart is your lifetime curriculum
but you're not going to learn an entire
lifetimes curriculum in one year
right so that's you start with
understanding your lifetime curriculum
but then you want to look at what's
going on in the current sky uh i call it
my astro update reading
so for uh
what's going on right now in the sky
and you take a look at that and how it
impacts your birth chart
that's where you get your current
curriculum
so let's say the birth chart the moment
the stars the
the planets at the moment of birth
that's what you're here to learn over a
lifetime
so that's kindergarten through 12th
grade let's say
and then if you look at the transits and
progressions for a given year
2021 how are the planets um
in 2021 impacting your birth chart
you get your karmic lessons for this
year
so each year and i'm just
using year as an arbitrary time period
right but
each moment we have different
lessons being highlighted by the
universe
and astrology gives us insight into them
so you know what to work on
when and that's key for example
you know you may have a lot of
relationship karma but it's
really not going to be um
it's not going to be the right time for
you to do the most work on it
at different period you know depending
on the periods of your life well all of
a sudden you're going to
see okay this year relationships are
going to be a key area of growth for you
let's do coaching around that um oh
this year i see there's a lot of energy
going around with
your progressed sun is the evolution of
your identity your sense of self who are
you and what do you want
um if you see that's under a lot of
pressure this coming year
then that's where the coaching
activities will focus whereas for
another person
it it might be oh you know progress mars
is being really active
so where do you need to find courage to
develop assertiveness to
to take a stand for what's right for you
so depending on so that's how it's the
interaction
between your birth chart which is the
moment of birth
your life curriculum with what's
happening
right now in the sky awesome awesome
so can you talk a little bit i know
you've mentioned it here and there what
the
the type of mode that you use the uh
modality or the type of astrology
that you use because there's a lot out
there and it gets really overwhelming
right when we start here at night
like if we're just going off the sun
signs yeah that's that's something i can
understand that's pretty easy it's like
well it's not just that
it's that and this and this and then
we've had other challenges on here and
it can get pretty complicated really
quick can you talk just a little bit
about the the modes that you use
yes absolutely you know it's um
you can get astrologers also you know
ask a question get them arguing and you
know and fighting
tooth and nail you know over the
perspective there are different
a lot of different branches i use um
i practice a type of astrology called
evolutionary astrology
and there are many people who helped
kind of develop what we call
evolutionary astrology
i'm mostly aligned with stephen forrest
and to some extent jeffrey wolfe green
are they're like the granddaddies of
evolutionary astrology
and it's quite different from
traditional astrology in
many ways the most important way is
that in traditional astrology you'll
hear things like
oh you you know your your
um your this planet is in its fall or in
its detriment
right and um these words that sound like
oh i've got a planet and a bad place
right
there is no bad placement for a planet
for you
you have the exact planet placements
that you need
to navigate this life so there is no
good or bad
um you'll hear like a lot of popular
things like oh right if
if you're um you know if you're a libra
you don't want to marry an aries you
guys won't get along
right don't dare don't date something
like this or which signs
should should you date depending on your
signs that's um
you know forget it oh no you're that
relationship's doomed because you're
this and you're that that's just not
true
astrology isn't prescriptive it doesn't
tell you
what you what you should do what it does
is describes the circumstances the
energies
the the potentials and the possible
pitfalls
so that you can use your free will
accordingly it's about
free will and you know you can make
um you can you know take two
planets or two energies that don't get
along well
well when you know in what areas and how
they don't get along well and where
they're likely to trip up
you can then take action to make it work
so that's that's the key thing and the
other key difference besides the whole
free will versus
um you know doom and gloom would be the
issue of the past lives
uh the whole point of evolutionary
astrology is this idea that
you've got this karmic baggage you're
here to release you've got your
evolutionary intent that you're here to
embrace
and that's really what it's all about
it's that movement it's that
growth that's awesome growth
moving from one level to the next
transmuting your situation looking at
what's
what the the stars are in front of you
and bringing yourself into alignment
with that right so that you're able to
harness the energy or to to flow with
the energy does that does that
well it's both it's to harness that you
want to harness an energy
and flow with the things towards your
evolutionary intent
but you want to break the pattern and
let go
of the stuff that's keeping you stuck so
by knowing that oh okay you've got past
life karma around relationships with
mother figures
then you know that doing you know
doing some work on your relationship
with your current mother
will help you release that karma so that
you can then
ha you know so that's no longer
something you bring in with you
um so with the energy and stars planets
changing
every day is this something that we look
at on a
on a daily basis a daily pattern or is
it monthly or
yearly like you said i know there's
there's you know bigger themes but does
it
for for the macro but does it all come
down to to the micro
and things and and how i'm going to feel
today how i'm going to feel tomorrow
in those things because i was um i had a
weird day just the other day i was
uninspired uneventful i knew i needed to
create because that's what i do
but i didn't i almost felt like giving
up i didn't care about it
i didn't know what it was and then i got
on a certain website and looked up
my astrological forecast and it said
yeah today's going to be uneventful
don't try to create anything
today is about resting you need to rest
today capricorn
and so i was like wow it almost brought
a tear to my eye to be able to read that
it's like wow
if i would have known that going into
the day i wouldn't have been a victim
of the energies and i feel like so many
people are a victim because they don't
know
what the energies are and we can't plan
our day off of it unless we know it so
does this come down to something we can
do daily
i have mixed feelings about answering
this question
because the truth is yes
let's take the moon that's the fastest
moving body up there right
it changes signs every two and a half
days or so
um and and the moon represents our
feelings and emotions so if you think
about it our moods
shift pretty quickly as well so i'm not
going to say that the quick
moving events which i call transits
don't affect you on a daily basis
however
i don't recommend living your life that
way because you risk falling into the
trap
of letting the planets letting astrology
prescribe what you do and how you do it
oh
well today you know is er today is going
is not is going to be a low energy
a lot of discord with the communication
i'm just not going to bother then doing
i'll just cancel this amazing interview
with someone who can really help you in
your business right
so i i don't like letting the stars
choose for you and that's what happens
when people look at those daily
forecasts
on the other hand there are big events
that are
there are some even smaller events that
are worth knowing so for example
eris is an asteroid um named after the
goddess of discord
right and right now she's being
triggered
off and on by some transits to pluto
so you may have noticed the last two
these last two weeks of april have been
kind of tough for many people and that's
because
eris is being triggered up there in the
sky
and depending on your birth chart it's
probably affecting us in different ways
i certainly felt it as well and in may
there's also a saturn uranus square
that's
pretty dominant this year and it gets
triggered on certain days like in may
we're going to have a few days here and
there
off and on where that's going to get
triggered and we'll probably
feel it so like you said if you know
that
they're going to be some times of
discordant feelings or
for example pluto just stationed
retrograde
uh yesterday yesterday the day before
and karmic wounds can get triggered
repressed wounds emotional wounds can
get triggered during
that those times so if you kind of know
and you use that to
bolster your energy your courage and to
give you strength that's fine
but if you use that to cancel
things and not do things or to do things
differently
then i'm not sure you're it's doing it
doing you a service the last thing i
would add is
when working with my clients there is so
much data you can pull from a chart in a
reading
i mean literally there's no end to it so
you
and one of the astrologers first jobs is
to decide where the cutoff point is
well the work i do is big picture soul
development work
so i cut it off fairly at the top and i
don't even look at
um some of the less influential transits
because
there's so much work to be done on the
biggest
events so it's kind of a long-winded
complicated answer to your question but
did that
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call in um i guess my next question kind
of changed subjects a little bit again
but you're you're a life coach and
you've learned a lot of
brain hacks to help people with
productivity and
different different ways to stay
cognitive and those kind of things
what are some of the amazing brain hacks
that we are just like a must
know like some of the best ones um
probably the most important one
certainly
coming back from being a teacher when we
are in a state of anxiety
and fear our brains do not function as
they are supposed to
we have this you know we there's this
thing called the amygdala in your brain
and it's kind of like a traffic
uh traffic cop and it it routes
energy or your brain energy to different
areas i'm trying to simplify this and
not get technical
so when you're in on in a state of
anxiety or
fear which unfortunately too many of us
are
it hijacks your brain function and sends
it to the
survival brain right and it doesn't get
to the prefrontal cortex which is our
thinking
judgment decision making brain
so literally you can't think as well
when you are
completely in fear mode so
therefore things that will help you
break that and learning to
not live in fear
will help you use your brain better and
by the same token
people who think that they can scare
people into doing things
are just plain wrong it's true some
people
are motivated by you know some stress is
good a lot of people think oh we need no
stress no stress
no some stress in life is good it can
motivate you you know that competitive
urge that
or that you know sometimes the healthy
anger which kind of gets you mad enough
to get going and do something
that's okay i'm talking about the
survival the fear mode
that for many of us is is just trigger
happy
so you think we we have to i say trick
the brain but hack the brain maybe to
to to overcome whatever that fear is and
to move into this state where
we're there's excitement there's love
even turn fear into excitement like
right because there's a fear that's
going to say no but there's also a
because fear is healthy in some degree
right but we don't want it to hold it
hold us back like the ego
you know like if you're going to go
bungee jumping there's a fear
but there's a healthy fear but there's a
safe fear and
we transmute that fear into excitement
is that something that we can do
yes um in fact that's something that i
talk about a lot in my coaching is the
dirty fear and healthy fear right so
embracing your evolutionary intent
always involves getting outside your
comfort zone
so for me i've had a fear of visibility
being on camera
doing a podcast putting myself out there
on social media
it was just um you know if you look at
my chart you can see that's just not
something i'm comfortable with it's
something i avoided
but when i got to know my chart better
and i saw that you know what
embracing this visibility even though
it's scary
it is part of my journey to what i'm
supposed to accomplish
knowing that gave me the courage to
overcome the fear and look at me i'm now
on video and
on a podcast that's something i probably
couldn't do several years ago
let's be honest it's something i barely
could do a year ago
um so yeah but for another person where
that visibility
isn't a part of their karmic journey
well
dealing with that fear isn't going to
help them it's just going to make them
more stressed out and more miserable
so it's kind of like yes a little some
fear like
some stress is motivating and healthy
but too much isn't and also the wrong
fear and stress and it's going to be
different for different people
what scares you and what you should feel
the fear and do anyway
will be different from what scares me
and i should feel the fear and do it
anyway
awesome that's good can i give you one
other brain hack
yeah so i i used to prepare teachers
and uh teachers have to in most states
probably all states have to pass these
exams in order to get their license
and these exams are ridiculous because
they have very little to do with the
actual work of teaching they're like
these
fill in the bubble right multiple choice
things so it's really challenging and
difficult and stressful and so many of
my students would have
test anxiety right um and
and they wouldn't be able to pass the
exams because of this test anxiety
and these are these were students that i
knew were going to be awesome teachers
because i knew them well
after four years so
um there was a study done by these uh
neuroscientists
and they they they had students they had
a group
of students journal about their fears
before a test like 10 minutes before
just take out a piece of paper
journal everything just write down
everything they were afraid of all the
feelings going on in their head
fold it up stick it in their bag and
then go take the exam
and um and they found that
they succeeded on the exam there the the
the results were
significant statistically significant
so i suggested that to my students and
it was amazing because this was not a
controlled experiment or anything but
all of a sudden my
these students were were um passing the
exams and
and doing so much better and the idea
was that this brain dump or
fear dump kind of freed up their working
memory
to focus on the task at hand whereas
before when they were taking the exam
the fear the fears were were
occupying much of their working memory
and so they didn't have enough
to just work on the exam that's so good
so next time you have something that
scares you journal about it
balancing everything you gotta you you
can only
balance so many energies at once and you
know one's going to be dominant
you know you got to make sure like the
good ones are dominant not the scary
ones not the bad ones that's telling you
no stay back like yeah you're right i'm
going to stay back
and people live their entire lives in
that smog of fear
for sure for sure um we do have a caller
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so we'll jump back into it here in a
moment
um so working working with the energies
transmuting fear
like what what what are some what are
some other tips to do that
like um because let me be honest let me
just give you a scenario um
you know i love food love to eat and
so we just got back off of a a fast it
was a
um it was a five-day fast i did three
days of it
and i feel amazing feel amazing my fear
is coming back home like you said
errands work and all those kind of
things like
jumping back into it um i'm just i'm
scared
like even drinking a sip of coffee i'm
like because i know that i love coffee
i'll drink
three cups you know it's like i i know
there's a healthy balance
and all that kind of stuff but i'm
there's a fear that i'm gonna easily
fall back into
gorging myself on delicate foods
it's just what i do um how do i how do i
you know transmute that and just is it
you know every every decision needs to
be a healthy decision
and you know to maintain the way that
i'm feeling right now
and i'm thinking i want to see your
chart and see where virgo is
um i think that i've got i've got my
birth certificate right here
if you oh yeah i got the time
well maybe after uh online after because
i'd have to
create the chart and i think that would
take more time than we have
but so yeah thinking about every
decision i think that way madness lies
what um but if you were my client the
first thing i would do is look at your
chart and find out
why do you have this compulsion for food
right where what's the source what's the
root of it
is it um you know and i will see it in
the chart somewhere right
um and then work on it that way
so for a lot for many people eating is
an emotional thing
they do it because it it you know it
provides pleasure so if you feel like
your life is lacking in pleasure you eat
for pleasure
maybe it's a way of reducing stress
so depending on what the source of your
eating
is over eating rather because obviously
eating is okay
would would be to identify why are you
doing it one example for me
is when you know sitting in front of the
computer all day long working
for me eating is a legitimate break from
work right i think a lot of workaholics
have this kind of thing
so sometimes if i just feel like i need
a break
my brain will translate it as oh i need
to eat it's like no i don't need to eat
i just need a break so the you have to
find out why it is that you're doing
what you're doing and then find another
way
um yeah awesome
um and so for me it's definitely
the pleasure pleasure part of it
so identifying other things that will
give you that feeling of pleasure
but don't have negative effects
awesome awesome so um let's see here
give me one second i gotta i know i know
what's wrong with the phone lines and
whoever's on the phone if you can hear
me give me one second literally
okay we're back all right carla can you
hear us now
yeah i can hear you now truth this is
hunter how are you doing great
hunter hunter fuse brother what's up man
sorry sorry about that that was on my
end but uh man welcome to the show
brother you have a question
um kinda sorta i mean
i've been listening since you started
but i can't say i still understand 100
because astrology was just one of those
things i just had a really hard time
trying to understand because it's always
kind of hit and miss
me personally i'm a sagittarius and so
there's a lot of stuff where it's like i
see it it's like yeah it kind of makes
sense but then there's other stuff where
it's like
that doesn't make any sense at all so
uh trying to think of a question yeah so
you you just asked a question
yeah i heard a question believer
the question i heard was why is it that
even though i'm a sagittarius it doesn't
suit me in all ways
and that's because you're only looking
at one piece
of an incredibly complex puzzle
if astrology were that easy everyone
could do it but when an astrologer looks
at your chart
we're not just looking at the sun sign
we're looking at the signs
and house placements of 10 planets
all right calling the sun and the moon
planets even though they're not we're
looking at the sign and placement of the
nodes of the moon
and we're looking at the sign the signs
of your of the angles
and we're looking at the interactions
among
all of those different things so
when i look at a chart i could explain
to you
which aspects of sagittarius sun most
likely
fit you and where it most likely doesn't
fit you
does that make sense you're only looking
at it you're looking at the tusk of the
elephant
you're a blind person look at the tusk
of the elephant wondering why
it's this is not a big animal why do
people say it's a big animal with big
leafs
big ears
yeah that makes that makes a lot more
sense because like if when you look at
the description of what usual science
series is it's like
yeah it fits me but then it's like and
this is kind of why i kind of gave up on
horoscopes is because there were some
days the horoscopes were like yeah
that's okay and like i said earlier this
was like no that doesn't seem right at
all
so yeah that does make a lot more sense
like but of course the whole sun moon
thing is completely new to me so
that's a new one on me that i'm still
trying to understand so
yeah i i you know i might i don't want
to
make other astrologers um angry but
those horoscopes in the newspapers are
to me
fairly meaningless i don't mean to go
out on a limb
uh but again uh the astrology that i do
is focused on the karmic journey and the
evolution of the soul
so those little blips one little blip in
the paper
can't fit everyone because everyone's
chart is unique
in fact i've done readings for identical
twins
and you know and so how can twins
sometimes
or fraternal twins let's say how can
they be so different have the same chart
yeah of course they can there is so much
information in the chart
and what is what is that with twins that
would make them different
or or the same i've found a a a recent
uh
documentary on youtube where they the
government did an experiment
on triplets and separated them at birth
to see if it
literally was nature which is the
heavens and the birth signs and all of
that
or nurture and there were so many
similarities
uh with these three brothers that it was
uncanny from the type of women they were
into
the brand of cigarettes that they smoked
personality types the way that they
looked they
separated these guys at birth and they
accidentally
found each other later in life it was
very interesting so what it what would
it be that would
would either join or separate the two
again just
one one uh you know degree
off in in the time of birth because a
lot of people say they have to have your
time
that that that you were born as well is
that something that would bring into
that equation
well you know a few seconds or you know
isn't going to make that big a
difference
uh a few minutes arguably will make a
difference but no
that's not really what it is with twins
first
um there's a couple things
they have the same chart there are going
to be a lot of similarities and
there are right but they also have
individual souls
with their own individual karmic
journeys their evolutionary intent
so if you think about the 12 signs of
the zodiac
that's taken the entire totality of
human experience and dividing it up into
12 buckets
so each bucket is kind of big so for
example think about
um i'll talk about the houses for a
minute
the houses in a birth chart divide the
sky the birth chart up into a pie of 12
slices right first house through the
12th house
and each house represents different
arena
arenas of human experience so the fifth
house for example
covers creative self-expression
romance it's the house of children
it's the house of play and rejuvenation
well that's a bunch of different things
right but let's say that
there's a lot of action in that house in
your birth chart so you get these twin
siblings they both have say four planets
in the fifth house so you know that
that arena of life is going to be hugely
influential to them
one but how you know how that plays out
can be different for one the focus may
be on
children right their children's the
house of children for another
it may be all about their um
creative self-expression they're artists
so
within so just keep in mind that there's
12
signs 12 houses 10 plus
planets because you know we'll use
asteroids um there's still a lot of
room for variation and variety but at
the end of the day
yes two people born at the same time are
going to have a lot in common regardless
yeah that's interesting so you can have
a lot of
similarities but there are also things
that that are going to be different
as well depending on the soul's lessons
and what you what you
kind of decided with your guides before
birth oh good so good
well deb thanks for coming on hanging
out with me i've enjoyed this
talk and uh so much fun uh learning
about this and what you bring to the
table and how we can use astrology for
business
it's awesome you know taking the steps
forward and so you have a lot that you
bring to the table
you have uh different sessions that you
do and then
you do one-on-ones and all that good
stuff let people know where they can get
in touch with you follow your work and
your website and all that good stuff
great yeah the best place to reach me
and to learn more is my website
e b deadparets.com e r e t z
dot com it's the t before the z that
trips people up
and i've got you asked about the moon
phases and how
the moon can help us i have a webinar
that i'm offering
uh next month about coaching with the
moon how to use the moon phases to help
you
navigate your karmic journey keep it top
of mind and use it for productivity and
accountability
and my podcast planets and profit
uh business astrology for entrepreneurs
um is a
is a great way for people who aren't so
familiar with astrology to just kind of
see
how can it eliminate business
awesome so with with that being said
the uh the webinars i've seen that you
have a bunch of those already scheduled
out
is that something that you do every full
moon
well it's it's i'm doing it as part of a
launch of my new membership
uh community where we're actually for
peop
um for people who want to join we will
use the moon phases
together to do this accountability and
productivity
with our karmic journey but the webinar
is designed to
give the system share the system so that
people want to do it on their own
can go and run with it so i'm
i will be offering it rig i'm going to
be doing this throughout the year
so i just finished april i did four of
them i have
four scheduled for may the community
begins on
may 26th the day of the lunar eclipse i
thought that was appropriate
but i will continue to offer it
throughout the year
as i onboard people into the monthly
membership community awesome so much fun
well deb thank you so much for coming on
really enjoyed this talk we'll have to
do it again thank you so much
thank you for having me it was great
time all right my friend many blessings
all right bye-bye
deb ladies and gentlemen parets make
sure you put that tea in there
check her out check out her work all
that good stuff um phone lines are still
open
anybody has any questions or comments
for
me anybody wants to ask anything or
um give me your stories whether it's
astrology related or not make sure you
call in
and we'll do that um i got something
something and someone that that i want
to
want to uh talk about and that is
kirby delenaro a fellow by the name of
kirby delenaro so
um i've had him on my podcast an amazing
talk
has a beautiful revelation of grace and
how
uh the grace and the cross of christ and
the gospel uh
it literally transmutes our our our our
conscience to
where we we feel like we're ashamed or
we're not worthy and things like that
and so
just going from really genesis to
revelation showing how we've
we carry guilt shame and condemnation
and how the gospel
and the story of christ undoes that and
allows us to approach the throne of
of grace boldly and how we're right and
standing with god how every everyone
already is you just don't know it
and so he has a beautiful revelation on
that had him on my show
um over a year ago but i was invited
uh someone bought me a ticket to the uh
five-day program that he just did here
in destin florida and so i went there
and i did i did three days um i had got
so much stuff that we got to get ready
for here
with my uh we have a retreat this
weekend and
do the podcast and all that good stuff
so i had to get back so i did three days
of the fasting and being a part of his
services
um his revelation what this brother's
bringing to the table
is it's phenomenal it's otherworldly it
not only for me but for so many people
uh what this brother's bringing to the
table
um everything that is in my book you
guys know i wrote a book
he covered every almost every topic like
so much
stuff that i genuinely resonate with
when it comes to channeling when it
comes to
um getting free or or even spirits and
demon spirits and
or communicating with with the ancestors
that are here and energy and
and how god is in everything and this
brother broke it down
uh in a beautiful way and made it very
inclusive
and using scriptures with it um so
everything that i've been thinking
conversations that i've been having
he was speaking from the pulpit as he
was sharing
in this this program for the five day
and uh
man it was it was so good i resonated
with his work on every
every level and so i want to give a
shout out to him and what he's doing
and all the brothers and sisters who are
still there right now with the last two
days
of the program phenomenal life changing
um so i definitely want to plug his work
he has so much that he's going on and
that has going on in teaching and
training and equipping people
and uh and teaching beautiful
meditations and and not just the
spirituality but
kirby is really big on the neuroscience
behind it and the neurochemistry how it
relates to our bodies and explaining it
explaining
energy healing with the body explaining
how to transmute
your fears with with the mind and and
beautiful things that he's developed so
i want to give a shout out to him and
his community
um three days with from were just
amazing the fasting i felt amazing
three days of fasting uh we did a juice
fast and we
drank like a juice once a day and uh but
it was and then we did dry fast where we
wouldn't have any water for like 12 to
14 hours and
man the clarity you know uh was amazing
feeling in your body passing all the
toxins and
man i want to keep it up i don't want to
let that go i
i'm not even hungry like the hunger was
came from an idea
that i just want to eat i love food
connection with food and
and camaraderie with food and and all
that kind of stuff but as far as being
hungry that passed like in the first day
like
just the brain telling you that you need
to eat and you want to eat and so
um i want to maintain that that was so
beautiful and healthy that
i just feel high off of it so good but
another experience that
that i had there that i want to speak
about um is something that
ever since i became a believer i got
born again
and um and this was in 1998 i heard
stories in in the charismatic movement
even the guy who
led me to christ they would have these
stories
about what they call gold dust and so
they would uh
just be in prayer and people would start
manifesting gold dust
gold would just appear on their hands on
their faces would be
shining with this radiance of gold gold
dust and so you hear stories about that
and
and how the presence of god would show
up and gold stuff would start appearing
on random people
in services and in prayer meetings i
remember seeing
um videos around that time as well in
1998 where
uh people would be in worship and they'd
be singing praise in these little bitty
churches and they're just really caught
up in worship and singing and
this lady was just touching her hair
this older lady and then
gold was just coming out out and they
held the bible out and the bible was
like
filled with this gold dust that had come
out of this lady's hair and it was still
coming to come to coming
um but over the years i've never
experienced it
and this was like i said i heard about
this in 1998 and i never
experienced it and i've always wanted to
so much so that i would have dreams of
it
and the dreams were were pretty
supernatural as well i would always wake
up i would be
uh in prayer in a dream and i would have
gold all over me and gold on my hands
and it feels so surreal but then you'd
wake up
and you look at your hands because their
dreams seem so real but there was no
goal there
and it was something like wow i want to
experience this and i remember two
dreams specifically that i woke up from
with this expectation
and um and you know it got kind of weird
over the years because it became you
know people started chasing these signs
and wonders and wanting to see them and
things like that
um so i remember just being at meetings
and stuff like that where people had
heard
stories or had experiences and then
we're just looking forward on people
and it was almost like you wanted to
happen and i remember like
people looking at the carpet they said
oh there's a piece of gold there's gold
dust and it was like one little
glitter or something that was there and
people and some people that's all it
took oh wow gold dust is here we see one
little piece
and it's like oh okay that's what it is
and then you look at somebody and maybe
have like one little
piece of gold on their hand and that
could have been from like you know
a moisturizer and and like uh lotion
that has glitter in it and stuff like
that so there's all of this different
stuff that that people want to believe
so bad that we kind of trick ourselves
into believing
and then over the years you also hear
about the the gold dust
uh people take the gold and they
uh get it and they put it in a vial or a
jar and they take it to have it
measured and weighed and it's literal
real gold like they're able to
cash it in people are able to pay off
debts there's also stories of
gems and rupees and things that are that
are that are forming out of hands or
falling out of the sky and landing in
people's hands or hitting them on the
foot
these little gems and roof rupees that
are like perfectly cut
and so you hear these stories and
there's videos all of this stuff i've
never i've never
been in those services i've seen so much
stuff in the supernatural but i've never
seen that so
there's a bit of skepticism there why
because there's people who try to
fabricate that stuff and to trick you
they'll bring literally bring
you know lotion or gold glitter or real
gold and they'll bring it to meetings
and
you know all it takes is one sign or
wonder caught on tape where everybody
believes and they they give and you know
they're giving donations and they're
sowing into that because they want to be
a part of it
but but those people made it up so
there's always like this healthy
skepticism that i had
which i believe has helped me to uh see
some really cool things that to be a
skeptic that i don't want to just
believe because i see one flake
or i don't want to believe because i see
a satellite in the sky like hold on i
want that satellite to stop
i want it to change directions i want it
to blink at me i want it to go into a
star
right so even with the the angels in the
night sky
so that skepticism has helped me see
some
really amazing things so with the gold
dust
there is the healthy skepticism
that i had as well so um at the kirby
delano road meeting
they're moving in this realm of miracles
and he's calling out miracles and
they're seeing tons of stuff in
people's bank accounts and people's you
know pain leaving people's bodies as
he speaks it boom it's there check it
it's there go ahead and look
you have to look and see and so many
really beautiful creative miracles and
the energy was really high in that
meeting
and and rightfully so and um i was
sitting there chilling and my buddy nico
shout out to nico morales me and him
hooked up uh during the the retreat and
uh man he's a
beautiful brother and uh he was we were
together the whole time and he was next
to me he's like
we you got anything going on man you got
any gold dust in it on your hand
i said no i ain't got nothing going on
man and uh i was like i don't know if i
really believe in it like i've prayed
for it
we had guys on here that kind of
specialize in it and
he's like look do you see it and i'm
like no i don't see it don't see it
so nico's like well let me pray for you
bro let me speak he don't really pray
for you he just
commands it nico don't really pray he'll
command it boom there it is right now
boom there it is
he'll connect in that place of zero
point and bring it out so
he wanted to do it for me and even on
that kind of skeptic on me sure i'm open
i want to see it don't know if i believe
you but sure
um because again there's people
charlatans man there's people
who are getting caught doing this stuff
and even kirby when he stepped into this
the person who taught him ended up being
a charlatan
he found out but kirby was having his
stuff come out of nowhere
because he believed it he aligned his
faith in zero point to bring it into
this now moment and so he's seeing so
many things like wild stuff
um especially financial stuff you know
in bank accounts but
nico spoke it over me he said now boom
there it is there there did you see it i
see it and i was like no
you say yep there it is look look at
your finger there it is on the tip of
your finger
and i'm looking and okay i see it see
the one little
little glitter and then it's when he
said it's gonna begin to spread and so
i'm looking at it and then
literally boom boom all over my hands
and
i'm open healthy skepticism i want it
though
and it's just all over my hands
literally my hands were covered
my the palms of both hands with this
gold
glitter all over my hands were shining
sparkling
to me i would say it looked like um
edward from from twilight when he gets
in the sun and he begins to glisten
like all over my hands were glistening
with these gold this gold glitter nobody
touched me nobody put nothing on me
and it just began to to formulate out of
nowhere
and the presence of god and the glory
was really strong in that place i was
like wow
i was blown away because like i thought
i knew i was a healthy skeptic you know
and i didn't know if it was real or not
and finally i was getting it all over my
hands
covered with the gold gold dust and
glory and it was
it was beautiful so much so that nico
walked me up to the front and and showed
kirby
and uh and everybody got to see it it we
tried to catch it catch it on camera
it's hard to pick it up on camera
um and nico had a video all the way up
to right when he put the camera on my
hands this video
turned off or whatever but um but i knew
i don't care if any of you guys know i
don't care if any of you guys believe me
i had the encounter i had the experience
and then later on
it wore off it went away so for me that
was that's a good thing
because for it not to be there be there
and then go away was the fact that
something was there and um
i'm a believer man like it was it's so
beautiful to to be able to experience
that
and um man beautiful stuff
uh if anybody of you i'm reading
comments now and and people are saying
they've had that
that happened at different places and
you know nico talks about he had it
happen to him and then it starts raining
from his ceiling like this gold dust
coming out of his his ceiling and things
like that and so
beautiful encounters there at the uh the
retreat with kirby delano road so if
you're not plugged in with his
with his work you don't know who he is
look it up kirby
d e lanaro l-a-n-a-r-o-l-l it'll come up
he's in the breatharianism he's into
breath work he's
super christian mystic but man beautiful
dude that
everything he said i resonated with and
it was good
good to hear someone like articulate
things that you've been studying and
experiencing for years even from a
pulpit from a place of authority
versus like other seekers and stuff or
somebody who has like
developed things that are teaching the
stuff that we've been believing in
revelations that we've been coming into
so definitely check out kirby delano
roll and wildlife
and so that was amazing we got a couple
calls here
sort of speaking on this people want to
come on we have a call from the
uh 954 from coral springs make sure that
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the caller from coral springs
954 hey who we speaking with
hi how's it going
oh how's it going man guy who was
speaking with
um is this the truth sneaker yep true
seeker podcast what's up man
all right let me see here i'm gonna um
eventually what we're gonna do is we're
gonna um
we're gonna get these people we're going
to copy these phone numbers down and
we're going to place them on the uh
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eventually when when people call in with
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we're gonna do like
so all right the next one here with from
the 503 randy are you there who we
speaking with
yeah what up player uh hey i was at
bethel
uh 2011 2012
in redding california and
they had that glory cloud they called
the glory cloud as a gold dust cloud and
it showed up
and you can actually look online you can
you can look up bethel
glory cloud gold dust and you can see
the videos
but i was there when it was happening
and the thing was everybody was by the
vents they're like oh is it coming out
of the van
is it coming out of the vent you know
but the air was moving it around you
know sometimes the gold dust was like
floating upwards
but here's a weird thing i was going up
there with my buddy and he was like a
second-year kind of cool guy you know
he's doing the thing
and i was going up and there's a crowd
of people and then out of this crowd
there's like a like a circular space
like if nobody's standing there
like oh that's weird it's packed and
there's an empty space here and all of a
sudden again i promise you i'm not that
dude
a gold dust spiral came out of the
ground
and just manifest and like it just came
out of the ground right in front of me
i'm like whoa
dude what is going on dude like that was
nuts man
so and i've seen it manifest on this
lady too she was talking she was talking
it's all got it's boom so
yeah man it's real it's happening it's
real yeah i got i got the video pulled
up now i'm going to check it out
that make you wonder all right i've
never seen it
wow it's big flakes too huh yeah yeah i
was there man it was wild everybody was
like
feeling it that's a lot too like that's
that's a lot whatever
yeah that was right before uh
they exiled uh westerfield yeah
jason westerfield like dude i don't know
what's going on with that but i'm still
i'm still like dude i don't know what's
going i think i don't think he's
bad yeah i think he might be onto
something you know like yeah star
child you know what i mean and then they
just like one day he's like
no too much yeah i think i think if he
would have held on to the
the chrysler-centric stuff which is what
kirby's doing he would have been good
you know
yeah yeah yeah yeah are you familiar
with kirby i don't know
no no no no i'm not actually no
yeah i kind of got into the i had like
this weird
dream i was on the moon in like a space
you know like a spiritual school
and then like doing some intuitive
impact training on the moon base i was
like write music and stuff and then
i actually was looking for uh
westerfield and then uh
i found third eye indigo on your channel
like not
i don't know what he is subs he's like
he's younger but he's like dude he'll
just drop all this infinite knowledge
for like an hour or two and you're like
dude
what like what it's like yeah
where did i indigo do i respect that guy
dude he just put out some new music too
so for sure for sure yeah he uh we did
that talk on westerfield and i got it on
it's so funny that like i got a a lot of
people actually find my
uh my podcast because they're they're
googling um
um jason westerfield because it comes up
on google
and so that was cool yeah he got on
there and shared his story i guess he
was friends with westerfield
no i guess he's like best friends with
him he grew up with him or something
like that yeah
i didn't know that and i think i think
westerfield might be doing like talks
later on but
it's kind of like low-key but i heard
like i heard he's like next level on
some
like stuff dude like yeah i i've heard
of that
i've just heard crazy stories about him
like i've heard like some people and
the weird thing is like once you start
hearing stories they kind of like
snowball and
and get added to them and stuff like
like i heard
i heard he was sitting on the on his
ceiling one day dude they walked in the
room and he was
like upside down yeah
yeah no my buddy my buddy is second year
kinda i lived with like the second year
and they
they were like interns with these like
high up people in bethel
and uh my buddy said yeah i was with uh
my friend and
we went to go see westerfield at this
hotel and we went
there and he said he wasn't there but
his buddy was there you know like his
best friend was like
second-year guy but he's like yeah we
went to the hotel
and uh he was sitting on the ceiling
when we went in the door
and then he took he said he took my hand
he he morphed into a different person
and we're like in another
dimension and like we're like in this
other world like
that's what he's saying he's like he
changed his whole body and like
changed it to a different person or
something and it's like that's some
weird stuff man like that's why i'm like
i i don't know i'm trying to figure it
out because
like i said we've had something we've
all had some weird experiences you know
we're still trying to put it together in
a way even though it will happen
yeah well just to know it's possible
that you know what i'm saying that's
what miracles show you and uh
you know and even kirby when he talks
about this like
like a lot of stuff isn't miracles
because a miracle is something that's
like a divine intervention of angels and
stuff
like that that happened but a lot of
stuff we have the ability
we already have the ability to do like
fire bending and
calling water out of a rock like moses
did like there are signs and wonders
that we already have
the ability to do we just forgot about
or we given it over to other
religions and called it demonic or
whatever
you're right yeah another weird thing is
like sometimes i have these like weird
visions about like uh
spinning metal or like having to not
bend but like spin
or move metal and like i just have these
weird visions about that like sometimes
i'm just thinking i have some trauma and
like some processing i'm like what am i
processing
what am i processing about and then i
see this like object and like just
spin the object dude and then
you'll you'll
start trying to spin the object and the
trauma will go away
i don't know if it's like some weird
like back programming or something being
like
you know some training or something but
i don't know is that something that that
you're developing or you're seeing in
the spirit or you you're somebody else
came out with
yeah actually you know what yeah you
know what
the crazy things that i you know i think
a lot in a swastikas or whatever but
one of the here's what it goes down to
so it's like okay your inner
man you know your inner man or your
imagination like magic
and i magi imagine like the magi
want to go see jesus magician i
magic nation my imagination
is my inner man and so if i can take
control over my inner man
and the world within maybe i can
manifest that world within in in this
dimension instead of having my inner man
be
distracted by you know the like i had to
quit
gaming because i'm like dude i'm
thinking about that last round like i
shouldn't be thinking about that last
round i need to be ashley projecting
i'm with you dude
i said i'm with you on that because i
love gaming too and i'm like in the same
you know same same place that that you
know what in the interesting listen to
kirby kirby said he plays he plays
video games a little bit but it's it's
something to do with with the dopamine
is that you know with our phones and
getting that instant dopamine release
through a video game or through
the lady was talking about food like in
my my connection with food it's dopamine
it's like oh this is so good you know
it's instant dopamine and so
we're getting these instant artificial
you know
uh drops of dopamine releases that are
through these external things like video
games
and so your brain gets trained that okay
when i win a game of madden or
when i went around a war zone or
whatever the case is like
that i'm gonna get this dopamine this
release and so
uh the things of the spirit are the
things that like that
we we get dopamine release spiritually
or um
naturally it gets overshadowed by the
food
like yeah so there's less and less of a
you know
a fruit smoothie that gives you dopamine
because there's a you're you know
connected with that big
you know unhealthy burger that you know
is is designed to uh to give you that
instant pleasure
and and and the key and the goal with
all this is called
delayed gratification to actually put in
the work
to get those dopamine releases through
friendships and through
camaraderie and through relationship
versus like getting the instant release
or
instant release through uh ecstasy or
pornography and things like that those
are things that we
are supposed to kind of work our way up
to and so when we start getting addicted
to all of these outside sources that are
stimulating our dopamine the beautiful
subtle things such as the mystics gazing
into the rain or
sun gazing or grounding and stuff that's
supposed to
really release our dopamine it it does
it less and less so
you're right about the uh the video game
thing for sure
wow that's it bro i'm just like back in
listener mode right now i was like whoa
yeah yeah so you know going
speaking about magic like i i that
really became a revelation of
reading uh a little pamphlet by manley p
hall called
magic and uh he talked about white black
and
gray magic and so he's talking about
magic and at the end of the book he
talks he goes in deep on this delayed
gratification and how
you know how important it is and for
when i read it it was like revelation
man
so and it was from a book magic magi
you know imagination the brain
yeah neurochemistry i'm a
yeah i'm an anti-porn guy so like i
agree with that i tell everybody don't
watch porn you know it's like
we've all been there now you know once
you're once you get past you're like
what the am i what am i doing i'm
ruining my life dude like
it's like i'm like what why am i cucking
myself like you know like
it's just you're just cucking you're
like watching someone else get the girls
you want to be with and it's not going
to make you happy in life
you know what i mean you're not actually
getting that it transmutes into your
life
you watch other people get the job that
you want yeah yeah
you know oh wow dude that sounds right
there dude i didn't think about that i
know right it's deep
wow yeah you're giving your power away
you know you don't want to give your
power away that's what god talked about
you know don't give your strength away
to like a
a hoe you know don't just don't give it
up to her like
you're powerful more than you know yep
everything is everything is meaningful
god is in everything you know
so with i'll tell you what was
interesting so
me and me and nico so when it comes to
to angels and stuff like that
you know there's where we get angels
sigils and angel magic and
you can call upon your angels and
learning your angels and stuff like that
and they're associated with colors
sounds lights even crystals and so we go
to earthbound me and me and nico on the
way out i had to stop and get a gift
from my
my daughter and um we we walk in and
we're looking at crystals because he
wanted to visit a crystal shop and i
said there's a
couple crystals in there so we walk up
and we look at this uh
uh jasper i forgot the name of i got to
figure out which kind of jasper it is
but it's a jasper stone
but we looked at it and there's this
these
glitter all over it right and so it's
like hey that looks like the glitter
that
we seen on our hands like the gold does
because it looks exactly like this so i
picked it up and put it in my hand
and just held it in my hand and then
took it off and literally i'll try to do
it now i don't know
for those of you who are watching on a
podcast let's see if any of it picks up
on camera
okay yeah so i'm rubbing this on my hand
okay you can see a little bit on camera
and because the light has to reflect off
of it right it's a reflection of glory
of the light that's already there and
and maybe it's a light thing maybe this
goldust is already there but a light
a certain light comes in that reflects
it right but you can see a little bit of
this on my hand
and it looked exactly like it but it was
covered so the same kind of glitter
and so i was like you know what i'm
gonna i'm gonna buy this stone
just to remind me of the encounter that
i had right because it's got this
glitter so i'ma hold on to it and
it's like a monument it's a it's a it's
a stone of remembrance i mean that's
that's scriptural they had stones of
remembrance so um when i look it up too
so i looked up this this jasper uh a
little while ago and it was saying
that let's see jasper um
represents the glory of god
and uh when it when it comes to to the
bible in in
in stones and so i thought that was
interesting and so
how it says jasper represents the glory
of god and this
specific glory has this gold dust on it
and it was very similar to what we
experienced the day before man
that was neat wow so we get into the
deeper research
let's see if we can recreate it let's
see if we can connect with the angel
that is behind that is associated
with the jasper you know and see if we
can recreate it
and and and develop a relationship you
know where
these things aren't so miraculous or so
spread out that we can
you know encounter these things every
day you know
yeah i was listening to this uh podcast
this other one and uh
you know they're they're talking about
uh
you've probably probably heard of it um
but they're talking about the crystals
and one of the guys was like yeah you
know chris
like crystals are like uh tools like of
a carpenter
or you know or a plumber or whatever but
if you're not a good plumber and you
have all these tools you're not going to
be able to use it you know so you have
to have like a good
skilled like you know worker or whatever
like that that made a lot of sense like
yeah you know if you get like someone
that knows what they're doing you can
probably
pull some energy from it because i'm
like we make phones from
rocks and crystals and plastic like i
don't like you know what i mean it's
kind of like
everything that we make comes from this
planet so if we can like
maybe redo some alignments or something
i don't know i'm still trying to figure
it out yeah you just gotta i mean it
takes
searching and it takes study like like
you said like that stuff that you're
getting in the spirit write that stuff
down dude
because that becomes that becomes i
would say doctrine but it becomes a
formula where other people can encounter
um getting that revelation and you can
bring them with you the stuff that
you're learning and so
i feel like a lot of us have these ideas
and things that we're getting in the
spirit or the imagination it's the same
word just to believe
is to use your imagination and um so
i i thought it was was uh pretty
imagination yeah
pretty interesting that kirby did a
perfect job of doing this kirby's got
all these
meditations and like the death of the
ego and
going doing meditations where you
actually let your worst fear come upon
you and you die
in your imagination you die in your
dream and then you look at your body
dead
to really overcome overcome your fear of
death you let that thing overtake you
like
so many beautiful things that come out
of prayer meditation and just using the
imagination that
everything comes out of your imagination
write it down so
you can share it and explain and other
people can experience it you know
yeah yeah sometimes when i'm in my
imagination
like when i feel like i'm in a battle or
something weird
i'll just like turn into like light and
just like
shine really bright it's like wow and
then
i did that once it was so weird i have a
vision of it
it's coming back to me wow
um yeah wow i wasn't
like i was in another world man i like i
felt like this
like that memory brought you back bro
that's what i'm talking about
and then but see how that memory brought
you back
you can map it out because you've been
yeah you could take people with you
it's a moment of time that was captured
for you i felt like
wow yeah that was interesting
yeah i just had this weird quick vision
of like this
lizard like reptile goofy looking thing
trying to feed off of me like something
you see off of like
kind of looked like that one from uh um
that star wars disney plus show you know
the
mandalorian it looked like that lizard
from the second season was like trying
to get at me or something
and i just like turned into light and i
just started shining so bright and then
when i
did that i noticed the animal was blind
they couldn't see and i was just walking
around walking around me and i'm like
dude i'm like a god mode right now i
feel like
i feel like i'm like a god in a way and
this little
insect's trying to get at me you know my
thoughts and i just like had so much
light
you know just shining it it looked like
it had like a glaze over its eyes like i
couldn't see it
was like i don't know and then i was
like should i kill it but i'm like
i don't know i'm not really like you
know
like and it feels like you know yeah
i had you know i feel like i have
nothing you know like mercy great for
sure
love kindness peace understanding you
know
yep yes you're serving this purpose all
things serve a purpose i mean it's just
like if you go outside
at night with a flashlight and uh you're
gonna attract
insects you're gonna attract those those
mosquitoes that want to suck your blood
uh in the same sense you have entities
that want to suck your auric
field uh they want to leech off of your
energy and so
i mean they they're just doing what
they're created to do and so it's up to
you to guard yourself
and to to make sure that you're covered
and you know who you are you're able to
tell when something steps into your art
field
that's that's not supposed to be there
that's trying to drain you and that
works with people too people who are
just trying to drain you and use you and
so
as you start sharpening those sensors
you can able to be able to discern what
it feels like when something foreign
is in your art field or close to you and
uh whether it's something beautiful or
something that's negative
yeah it's not good for bad things to get
in my order
because they just get triggered really
fast
for sure what was your name man randy
yeah it's actually that's my dad's name
it's isaiah love okay i say i love
so if you ever see me on the chat yeah i
have
i i do things around salem like i was
doing i was starting to do a
salem tv because i was working with a
city magazine and i was going to do like
some
you know look out the music and then
covet happened
so kind of laying low and i don't know
make i make music too but i just need to
get i was working on my vocals for a
while and i had to learn how to make
some master but then
something that helped me out i was like
i'll do i'll do like three
layers of vocals on the track like one
main vocal
one that's like higher one that's lower
but then i turn them down like
yep you know way quieter so it kind of
fills up the track and i'm like
that makes it sound better so yeah the
other thing i learned is like
like sometimes my base is too high i'm
like dude i'm like
so i'm using trash headphones so i have
to like redo my bass but
yeah you know everything sounds good but
sometimes i'm like i just want to make
it sound good on all the
you know every yeah uh platform
i've had i've had and have that problem
myself yeah
yeah yeah yeah so i'm like dude that
what like because i have that um
that mixing uh i got some like cool
stuff because i worked at guitar center
it was like that
nectar you know like one of those oh you
got one of those
really good yeah but it's from like a
few years ago so like because dude
i worked at guitar center and they'd be
like hey if you do this module you'll
get this 200
uh dst for free i'm like hell yeah dude
i just did them all and then i contacted
uh ableton
and i called them and said hey man you
give any deals for a
guitar center people are like yeah man
we'll hook you up with ableton live nine
suite and push for
a thousand dollars it was like uh
fifteen sixteen hundred dollars
for that saved a lot of money but yeah
yeah
there's so many tricks man we've had uh
i've done i haven't done
done it lately because i've had some
problems with uh
getting my audio to go through but in
the past i've done a lot of mixing
sessions and recording sessions that
i've kind of live streamed to show some
of the different
uh techniques with with mixing and
singing and a lot of it is about
layering the vocals
and certain ways that you can pan it and
so many takes that you can do that i've
learned from some uh
pretty uh pretty um big big names in in
the industry who i've worked with
and uh they they want their uh vocals
mixed a certain way
and uh when i started mixing my vocals
like they mixed theirs it like
you know it took it to a whole nother
level
nice yeah i love it bro hey man well
it was good good speaking with you man
feel free to call in anytime and share
stories or input and all that good stuff
man that's why the phone lines are open
brother thanks for calling in it was
good to speak with you
all right man peace many blessings
that's what it is ladies and gentlemen
man see
other people having these experiences
other people are
you know just like you other versions of
yourself
nobody knows unless we talk about it you
know nobody knows unless you share what
you've been experiencing what you've
seen what you're going through
if you keep it to yourself because of
what we talked about fear
fear that i'm not going to speak my
truth fear that people will judge me
fear that i may be wrong fear that i may
be deceived fear that there's demons
right that's going to hinder you
fear is going to you so again
transmute that fear into excitement
what is the excitement of fear of fear
if i don't share my story
fear if i don't share my story that
people are depressed and
maybe i'm the only one who's experienced
this there's a lot of that going on
that you know you got to step out but
you find out that other people
resonate with the what you're doing
because you're authentic
you're not holding anything back you're
not pretending to be some some someone
you're not now that's not forcing that
on people to hear your story and
you know going to work and telling
people about aliens and all that kind of
stuff listen you got to be able to
discern it and feel where people are
as well but when you start if you start
a platform or use your own social media
whatever
listen feel free and feel open to share
that
and so that's what this platform is
designed for this is what we do
and uh so many people at the uh uh
program that i went to just came up to
me and and thanked me
for uh for doing what i do you know
thank me for and i've caught a lot of
persecution over this from
christians and from so many questions
and
even interviewing some people and just
asking myself what the hell am i doing
here you know that kind of stuff and
then
uh but but people coming to me like man
thank you so much for just having those
conversations
and and being open and and embracing
your faith and still being able to peer
into
a lot of these conversations because
there's nobody talking about this stuff
so i
you know we man i've been doing this for
years now so
um now it's empowering and bolding
other people to start their own podcast
to embrace their their message and to
and let their freak flag fly as you
would and so it's been beautiful and had
so many people come up to me man and
it's so beautiful i get those messages
every day
but it's so cool to be able to meet
people in the flesh who come up to me
uh and speak to me and tell me how much
the show is has had an
impact on their life and it really means
the world
so man embody your truth whatever that
is
say yes keep doing it and uh listen
like there is no limit say the sky is
the limit there is there's no limits
the only limit is your mind the only
limit is your imagination what you can
believe for
and as you step out little by little you
start seeing little things whether it be
gold dust or whether it be
whatever it is that that you need what
that does it expands your face
and expands your your faith as your
realm of belief what you're able to
believe for what you're able
to uh expect and have this expectancy
because once it starts out as faith and
you've never experienced it it's
something new but once you've seen it it
becomes normal
it takes no more faith it even takes no
more belief
belief in faith or just even out the
picture because
now you know nobody can take that from
you
nobody can convince you otherwise
because you have a divine
inner knowing of something that you've
experienced now be open
to be challenged be open to question i'm
open for all of it
i'm open to believe well maybe somebody
poured gold dust in your hands when you
weren't looking listen i'm open to all
of that
i have a healthy skepticism that has
allowed me
to experience so
many uh portals in in realms of
of the unfathomable where where we are
connected to higher realms and other
dimensions with other beings that have
our
best interest in mind and also those
that don't
everything exists everything that you
can imagine everything that you can
fathom
exists and if it didn't exist before you
thought it you create it
as you believe it and then how do you
transmute it how do you
as a shaman pull it into your reality
every version of yourself
exists versions of yourself that are
happy
wealthy traveling the world in your
dream job there's also a version of you
that it
that uh exists that you don't know who
you are you're scared
you know um you're poor you're begging
you're homeless like all those versions
exist and you have to
choose which one that you want to bring
into your reality
and there's things that you do to do
that as simple as saying yes
continuing to say yes to the choices in
the life that you
want to create for yourself the world is
magical
life is beautiful with that i'm saying
peace and shalom man thank you guys for
hanging out
for those of you who are interested i
think we have three slots left open for
our
uh re retreat coming up this weekend
here in mobile alabama by the time you
hear this on the audio
apps well you know what this will be out
tomorrow i'll put this out tomorrow so
yeah
it's uh last minute we got three slots
left uh
retreat mobile alabama so go to
truthseeker.com to get
info on those tickets if you want to be
a part of that but we're going to do
more
and uh excited about the future with
that i'ma say peace and shalom man thank
you guys for hanging out with me
peace peace
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