Disl Automatic | Spirituality, Life and Success | Conversation With TruthSeekah

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Disl Automatic is a Revolutionary Hip Hop Artist whose message is to spread freedom and equality to all people and animals alike. Disl is also a huge vegan activist and has made many songs about his love for animals and distaste for corporations and industries killing other living creatures for profit and greed. In this episode TruthSeekah and Disl cover everything from Spirituality to police shooting unarmed black men all the way to their favorite movies and video games. In this 3 hour episode they leave no stone uncovered.

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Disl Automatic | Spirituality, Life and Success | Conversation With TruthSeekah
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guests because we had a conversation a
couple years back we did an interview
and it was really good we've touched on
some good topics the audio quality
wasn't really there it was some hiccups
and stuff we're alive with it but so
we're gonna probably revisit some of
those questions because we had some good
times back then and also we're gonna
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hello so without further ado diesel
automatic get being on them man welcome
to the show brother thanks for coming
all hanging out with me man yeah we are
we had it we had a really good
conversation the last time and I want to
kind of maybe revisit some of that stuff
there's so many so many things we could
talk about and we were we were talking
before we went live and I was just
itching to click the go-live button
because even like I said in the small
talk about how things work and things
operate and how you make a living as an
independent artist and little things
like that I think that it makes for a
good conversation and get people to know
how to how to help support and that
their support is needed and it doesn't
go unnoticed everybody who clicks share
on Facebook even as just simply doing
that man talk a little bit about going
full-time man like how did you get to
start doing what you're doing and get to
the place you are now as far as like
doing what you doing full-time yeah what
a true piece oh you know I've been able
to do it for awhile just because I've
been an unfortunate situation had a
little bit of had a little bit of an
inheritance a little
of investment so you know I don't know
about no means that I come from any type
of rich family and unlike that but like
we had here where I met we had land that
my grandfather acquired basically like
for nothing
and cuz back then the land here wasn't
worth anything nobody knows and nobody
was thinking about anything in terms of
oh maybe one day it'll be worth
something it did end up being worth
something so got a little bit of money
from that you know a little investment
of real estate or whatnot so been able
to do it thankfully you know in my mind
my parents have helped me out throughout
my life a lot you know I can't even
front on that and I mean just being born
into the situation that I was born in so
and at this point it's just up for me
it's all about being able to just be
comfortable live a comfortable life so
I've had that opportunity to you know
have the basic necessities of life you
know pop over and you know I got I have
my own apartment on pay rent so you know
it's uh I've definitely been fortunate
just born in the right place at the
right time but you know now I've
definitely been able to in terms of
making some kind of money from the music
I've definitely been able to step that
up as well over the past years and
really I mean I don't it's not really no
secret to it I mean I just you know just
in grinding film just been putting out
good content quality music yeah and you
know of course I mean I've been able to
link up with people like really in the
beginning Global faction from the UK
that was a huge you know that was a huge
boost for me in terms of because
obviously when it comes to to the money
that's being made I mean it's all about
the supporters and the more of more
supporters you have you know the more
the more money you're able to get and
so you know that was definitely a big
big thing that really it's you know put
me out there to a lot of people and then
after that it was really just a matter
of just grinding and putting out a lot
of music you know a lot of music for
free and really I mean like to me has
been donations people are unbelievable
like you were talking about patreon I
really haven't gotten into that but you
know I just do the donations on my
website and I mean people are you know
like I can't even you know I mean I'm
talking about I put out a a project and
somebody comes and blesses me what you
know $100 150 you know twenty ten fifty
five one whatever
yeah adds up man yeah and that's been
big and then of course merchandise sales
like sold a lot a lot of merchandise
over the years yeah you know a little
doing features here and there that's got
a given a little bit and really for me
you know any or any artist to tell you
it's really the shows in the tour in
which I haven't been able to do know
what I'm saying like that's kind of put
me at a disadvantage in terms of in
terms of that so I'm hopefully I'm plant
now hopefully I will be speaker to
existence you know I'm saying I will be
heading out either later this year or
early next year around Europe you know
different destinations basically
wherever I can go and um yeah so that's
I I would like to I don't know if you
want to cuz I definitely you know the
making the money from what we do is an
important topic and so many people I
think misunderstand it you know I've
said like a lot of people have this idea
that you know that we should as as rap
to this as activist as pontius or
whatever they're like we shouldn't even
be making any money off of it and that's
you know like that's crazy to me
I mean well what you know first of all
let's not even talk about the time and
energy and the money that we've invested
into it you know what I'm saying but to
me it's like first of all anybody who
says that like oh you know you're you
say you're
against money in this but you make it
wait a second what do you do for a
living you're not saying like I'm making
money off of it but it's a genuine
honest truthful way of doing it and I'm
not sure I got you know we are we gotta
use Google and Facebook and different
corporations but in the end of the day I
ain't working for them I ain't working
for them I'm not working for a
corporation I don't know
I'm my own boss you don't have said so
when somebody wants to point that finger
I mean it's like hold up because let's
keep it let's keep it 100 less if you're
not off the grid completely off the grid
completely because even if you're off
the grid you can still use money I'm
trying to off the grid no using money no
buying nothing from no companies no
corporations like we live in the system
yeah you don't understand like we have
to somehow make money earn a living do
whatever we gotta do you know in the end
of the day like you know um I was
actually on lopata
on a podcast a few days ago and I was
talking about this just a short like um
you know I I would love to make a lot of
money earn a lot of money from what I do
and let me tell you why because diesel
automatic will never be a millionaire I
could I could earn a billion and I ain't
gonna be a millionaire because imma use
that money to help others oh but you're
just perpetuating the cycle of the
monetary system listen listen to those
people who say that let me tell you
something you know I'm saying if you
have the opportunity right now because
we are living in a world right now where
people are suffering people animals
everybody and and the only thing that
can really help them is money and and
that is the reality of the world we live
in in this situation right now you know
anybody who says otherwise so if you
have the opportunity you see somebody
and they're starving and you could bless
them with a hundred dollars a thousand
25 whatever are you gonna say no because
I'm against the monetary system what
does that make you then fam
what is that you understand what I'm
saying so yeah give me I would but never
compromising my integrity that is the
key not sell it not changing a damn
thing that I do I can make money but if
I'm able to in an honest genuine way
where people are simply saying yo
these are we love what you do ma'am here
here's here's our blessing in the form
of this are this uh you know fiat money
albeit still so then I could take go
build that animal sanctuary you know
what I'm saying help people out help you
know look at the moral technique he
makes school made schools in Afghanistan
and [Â __Â ] like he did that with money
that he made from his music yeah so it's
like people people are people be trippin
off he comes ahead like will of all
types of stuff so the end of the day cuz
you ain't you'll never see diesel
automatic taking his money from his and
buying a fancy car and stuntin and buy a
Jew nah fam
like first i'ma help myself cuz yes I
have a dream that I would like to build
a home up in a mountain off the grid
solar power and you need money to do
that yeah it's a long-term investment to
be off the grid and eventually I would
even like to make a community up there
and make me you know for people to
either they've come and stayed is it
whatever they want to do you know so so
first off we got it each individual has
to take care of themselves and then once
you do that you can help out others you
know isn't that the ultimate goal and as
much as I don't I hate you know the
monetary system and fiat money and all
of that like that [Â __Â ] ain't going
anywhere anytime soon so if you got
trying to just sit around and be
complacent and not not try to get money
so you can help other people with it
then you gonna die a person who has
never really had well you can still help
other people without money I'm not
saying you can't but you know what I'm I
waited for it cuz that [Â __Â ] is not going
anywhere anytime soon my people believe
me yeah so we need there's people that
desperately people living beings
creatures animals humans whatever
whoever whatever you believe in it
whoever you want - how about zombie
of course so I'm thinking about everyone
and every day and and a lot can be done
with money a lot right now you know you
go and tell you go and tell a starving a
person that is starving to death a
person that is dehydrating you gonna
tell them nah fam nah that's - that's
Fiat money now you don't need that tell
them that yeah don't tell me yeah so
exactly man I think it is it's a really
touchy subject for some people but we
got we gotta look at it like this it's
safe to say that you that myself and a
lot of people that we run with we do
have a nice audience a nice fanbase and
too many people I get this all the time
they say that I'm their favorite rapper
or my favorite rappers diesel automatic
right so just think in this was this was
my case just a month ago people would
say that true seeker made you my
favorite rapper and they see what we're
doing in the videos in the podcasts and
everything we're doing is quality stuff
it rolls that stuff that's on the radio
like it like the quality the videos all
of it and so they see us and then
they're like I used to and I would tell
people you know they want to know what
you do for a living a winner you're
gonna tour where they live when you come
into where I live and I'm like I'm a
full-time truck driver this was my story
about a month ago
I'm a full-time truck driver and for and
you should see the look of shock on
their face when they find out that their
favorite rapper their favorite artist in
the universe like you are they feed off
of your lyrics and your creativity and
what you bring to the table and you find
out that that person is stuck at a nine
to five and it's not it kind of I don't
know if it like diminishes the light or
they if it brings things into
perspective of what music industry is
and how we're able to make money and pay
bills and because I mean so much we I
don't make I barely make anything off of
this I got all so when they find out
that your favorite artist is a truck
driver or works for a trash company this
is many this is the case for many pee
or that they have to they have to pay
bills and stuff and so for people to
think that you shouldn't get paid off of
it or to think that you know and I want
to encourage everybody who who helps
promote what we're doing because you
guys are helping us to keep the lights
on you guys are helping us to to pay the
bills and to pay the producers and the
beat makers and stuff and that stuff
goes a long way even if you don't have
any money to help put it into what we're
doing the share button it doesn't cost
any money to click that share button to
share it to show people your music and
stuff and so that was a really weird
thing even for me to be okay to show it
because people some of my people were
like hey man you probably shouldn't tell
people that you're a full time because
they think you're just really this
spiritual guru and you're this deep
individual but yet you drive a truck you
drive a truck they were telling me not
to tell people not to be real and just
hey this is my story this is why I am
this is why I hope B I'm not driving a
truck anymore
God kind of pushed the buttons to open
up the doors for me to kind of step out
and pursue this full-time and that's
what I'm doing I would have never quit
my job with a wife and a daughter who
I'm supporting I would have never quit
my job to hopefully make money online so
that things happen to where I had to
kind of step out in faith and jump and
that's what we're doing now so all the
support helps man you know yeah that's
what I'm saying like you know like I
said man I've been fortunate but hey you
know I know what I what I have now put
away that ain't gonna last forever so
I'm still striving to ultimately you
know have this as a you know I do do it
full-time now cuz I'm able to be as I I
have something put away I've been
fortunate enough but that ain't gonna
last forever you don't I'm sayin so
that's why I'm grinding so that I want
to do because like you said you would
you as a truck driver
you know if somebody that's the thing
people who have a problem with with
someone earning a living from this you
know music rap division ponch's whatever
you want to call it they're ready side
drives a truck yeah would you rather
have me phone now and work in McDonald's
eggs or if you don't have McDonald's in
this country
like would you rather have me go and
have to work at a bank or you know what
would you have me do you know what I'm
saying so you know and I also wanted to
you know I wanted to add like you know
when it comes to [Â __Â ] what was I gonna
say um with the money you know it's uh
damn what that I slipped my mind
cuz it was an important point I wanted
to make whatever it'll come back to me
if it comes back to me I'll just you
know I'll just refer back to it yeah
yeah good i want i wanna i want to note
this I've been doing spiritual music for
a while now right start it off it was a
it was a progression right it was
getting into doing like the political
stuff let's do rallies let's get out
there and protest and shake our fists
and stuff with that a lot of people do
that and it works for them oh I'm sorry
I knew it was going to that what are the
most important aspect of money is yes
money is fiat money when we use it we
contribute to the system but people need
to understand when people say money is
evil no money is not evil money yes it
now it has become a form of enslavement
debt obviously but really money is just
supposed to be a symbol represent so
that okay back in the days I have this
you have that we want to trade it's just
so it's just another form of trading or
bartering whatever you wanna call it so
it's like yo if somebody wants to if
someone finds value in what we do and
they don't have necessarily something
that cuz I'm hey look if you want to
show me love you don't have to give me
money maybe you got you know if you're
around my way you got some fresh produce
or some good vegan food holla at your
boy you're not I'm saying whatever you
know so it's like it's not even you know
it's not it's not evil it just it is
what it is it's it's trading it's
generating services you know what I'm
saying there's absolute
nothing wrong with that you know like
I'm um I'm always you know I try to
always support people and you know hit
them off with money when I can and you
know just I love them out there that
some other kind of wait let me you know
getting me caught album or donate or
whatever it may be
Sam yep yep and there's so many
different ways to help and in every
situation but money money is one of the
biggest ways I can't tell you just don't
I'm sorry two in a row a big big thing
too is aside from the level of aside
from the aspect of oh you're conscious
in this and you're against money but you
make money just the way that creativity
is not valued in society it pisses me
off
yeah well I'm saying like it's you could
be doing whatever you know I mean first
of all looking in schools when they
gotta cut programs they cut in the arts
they cut in the crafts they cut you know
creativity is just in general of all
sorts not just rapping it's not value
you know what I'm saying like true
creativity sure you got mainstream music
and these cats that it's making money
but even like this role like you can
tell somebody right now I promise you I
tell a lot of people you know oh what do
you do you know I do music oh you make
money from it yeah I make money from it
yeah and they still don't they they
don't take a serious I guarantee I could
tell you know you could tell it's like
alright that's cool
but I guarantee probably what do you do
for all I work at this office oh great
you know what I'm saying like the whole
reaction is different even the only way
people in society will even take you
seriously as like an artist and if you
make is if they know you if they've
heard you on the radio seen you on TV
then it's like oh okay oh then you're
then your creativity is legit you know
what I'm saying even if you just think
in a living decent you comfortable make
us some money whatever it is you know is
because it's so you know saying has been
so devalued in society and I don't think
that's going to dental you know
creativity is a revolutionary act
it's a spiritual act I mean I tell
people all the time when I'm creative
when I
coming up with lyrics or when I'm
freestyling off but off the top of the
dome that's meditation that's being a
one winner with all in existence I don't
come up with I don't come up with my
rhymes they come to me they flow through
me I know right it's freedom bro it's
freedom and they don't want us to feel
that they don't want us to experience
that yeah I mean I have I have a crazy
burden where I have to create art like
I'll go insane if I don't creating and
right and manifest something that's
within me and a part of me and bring it
out um even though it gets harder
because you keep stepping the bar up
okay here's the bar I made a song that
did really good I love the quality of
the production the the rhyming scheme
and I took a lot of time I can't I can't
go below that bar right I gotta you
gotta match it or be greater and that
that's what ice match must I try to
match all my songs to that standard to
have this this level I can't go below it
but when even so you have to wrestle
with these songs sometimes right okay
what can I do to make it more intricate
to go deeper like I wrote a song the
other day and the first half of the
verse it's just it's good but it's not I
could do better
so I'm got to go back I'm not gonna put
it out I got to go back and but the
feeling that you get when once that song
is done and you you birth something into
the universe into existence that would
have never existed if you didn't toil
over it that you didn't work hard over
and put effort in energy and breathe
into it and create it now it's here now
we get to kind of experience it and
other people get to step into your realm
and know what's going on in your mind in
your heart and the way you articulate
things and and many people or go like
having spiritual encounters and stuff
through our music or being inspired to
pursue their dreams from listening to a
song or finding out about concepts like
the song we did together bus back at the
very end of the song I mentioned you
know seek out on a mushroom experience
it a little pull up a song and at the
end we LaJolla
just dropping this nugget in there about
you know psychedelics in Iowa
Goods and stuff like that so it just it
Peaks to creativity in like um it
inspires people man and you can't there
is no price tag on that so I think
that's what this magic it's out on me
and I think that that's what people are
paying for and that's what people cuz
like the supporters are coming out the
woodwork when I got released from my job
and I started to pursue this full-time
like the supporters really did start
coming out like those who like really
believe in me and and they're like okay
we want you to to succeed and what do we
need to do like people are coming out in
this awesome man
so to birth something into existence
that didn't didn't exist that this man
and to me that's something like I'm
always you know going back to the money
even like you know the fact that you
know you people could have jobs they
could have creative in businesses but
when you you know and you get money but
when you when you are artistic you
literally are just coming up with
something like just out of your own
[Â __Â ] mind and soul and you put it out
there people who value so much that
they'll even pay for it yeah what all it
really for me what it boils down to
because my music is unsure you is the
same for you
all it is is me it's just me it's me me
me it's a reflection of myself and to be
able to have people value that and and
and and you know whatever find
inspiration because that's really the
biggest payout like you know we got into
talking about money in that of course
like that's a blessing but in the end of
the day that nothing is as valuable to
me you know is when somebody tells me
that you know my music has changed their
life
or you know I'm saying or inspired them
and some time anyway and all worth it
yeah I had I posted the other day a dude
hit me and just let the comment like
it's just a simple comment and it you
know it not made my day totally just I
mean I can say yo you you know your
music is be faith in humanity
and it helps keep me and others off
drugs yeah you know and I'm um you know
I I posted like I used to do the
opposite you know what I'm saying
I used to exact opposite yeah you know
what I'm saying industry and the music
that I made back in a day also glorified
and perpetuated that yeah so now to do
the exact opposite and have someone like
I'm like y'all I need to go with holler
at the judge like look look at that now
look at it I'm saying like yeah yeah I
you know you thought I wouldn't be spit
like yeah you know so that to me is just
the most fulfilling and people just you
know changing the way they think but
really to be honestly man the best is
that because you know the you know the
knowledge that we share the information
you know what that's in the end of the
day yes we put it out there in a in a in
a appealing way but the end of the day
it ain't none new Under the Sun yeah I
didn't come up with this stuff I learned
it I researched it I came up with I just
got a way to formulate it and put it in
later people provide sexualizes though
right and in the end of the day I can't
really what people do with that
knowledge and information I don't know
but when somebody just simply says yo
you inspire me and you you make me happy
and bring some type of light to my life
on a daily basis and oftentimes it's not
even with my music it's just with posts
that I post on Instagram or wherever you
know what I'm saying it could just be
that and that [Â __Â ] will just you know
that's what that's what keeps me good
cuz look back to the money anybody could
say whatever they want about me but
anybody knows not even just knows me and
what I'm capable of as an emcee anybody
who knows music bro if I wanted to make
money I would have gone commercial
design I woulda called commercial and
I'd be balling right now yeah maybe I
wouldn't be the biggest star but there's
a huge market that I would have part of
music for party get any commercial
whatever bro if I was just on the same
[Â __Â ] I used to be on just talking about
yeah I'm getting money I'm hustling I'm
da da da even if I wasn't doing it
anymore like all these
all these rapidly fun than starting
solar you know if I wanted to make money
believe me believe me I would not be
doing what I'm doing if it was not if I
wanted to make money because I would I
would like to I appreciate that but if I
just if that's all it was and I just
wanted to get rich I would not be out
here on every single song ain't nobody
ever heard of songs from me Pam
and no one ever heard a song for me that
strays away from some type of you know
you got these operas on now they they
drop conscious they say but then they go
back to yeah I got that done now one
single out a hundred the songs that I
put out your nonsense all that all that
money talk or that this that's dead to
me that's invalid completely because I
could have easily I now I've really been
because I really been okay I put out the
mixtape first mixed a 2012 but that was
just like put it out and well you know I
really since the second 2014 have really
been in like grinding grinding if if
then even I mean forget 2012 even since
2014 if I just was like you know putting
out this mainstream [Â __Â ] I'd be I'd be
making way more than I'm making out like
way more you know what I'm saying as
would you yeah because we're all
talented enough you know I'm saying
everybody that it you know in the fam
and that I read put and then I get down
with everyone's got the talent to do
what if they wanted to you know so I
don't think anybody can question our
integrity regardless of of what kind of
money we may or may not make from this
[Â __Â ] yeah talking about the the impact
man when I first started doing music I
chose a spiritual path back in uh pretty
much 2000 right and I got into the
church and you know my story when we
started out doing gospel music right so
we did gospel music for years and one of
the even even back then like the biggest
compliment I got performing or doing
shows or listen I have a music out
people would say when I listen to your
music I can feel the Spirit of God or I
can feel the Holy Spirit I get these
goosebumps and chills that
all of my body and it rocks me down to
the core and I feel a piece from your
music and uh and so when I kept doing
just evolving and doing the more
spiritual stuff I still get those I
still get that response and it's not
even it's not religious it's straight
spiritual it's speaking to the it's
speaking to the war that goes on within
the hearts of men and in women man and
so it's speaking to something really
deep in and even to this day like that's
the biggest compliment that I get and I
look for is that okay my music is
touching people like it's on it's it's
it's magical like you said and and it's
really weird that I'm privileged to like
I get these comments and that people are
being taken on spiritual journeys and
taken to different places and learning
things and meditating to the music and
stuffs happening in their life spiritual
supernatural things and it's pursuing
people to pursue their dreams and what
they have inside of them and and create
and just being creative and all that
stuff man so that's the stuff that
matters to me and you know I'm saying
the money if there's any money that's
made from it it goes back into it now at
this point I was like it's not about
living lavish or having all this money
and stuff like that so but I will say
that the money it the money comes into
play and I can't tell you the feeling
that I get when I do have some extra
money because I do websites or stuff on
the side too so I make my money that way
so to have some extra money that's not
going straight back to the bills and
stuff but to go out to eat and see a
young couple sitting down eating and pay
their tab pay the girl and then not even
speak speak to them like we can't speak
and make a confrontation or say this is
what it's coming from I'm blessed and
God loves you or whatever just speaking
encouraging words to them but just do it
out the blue and just know that you you
made that that person's day man you know
I'm saying and uh and just to look for
ways like that whether it's mono even if
you don't have money just saying little
positive things to people or just trying
to I said it I said all the time but
just to try to make somebody's walk a
little bit more easier so make somebody
else's walk a little bit more
comfortable to let them know that there
love to let them know that you believe
in them and and to really to connect
them with that universal power Universal
source let them know that they're not
alone in this thing man that is power
there is universal law you do reap what
you sow what you speak does come into
fruition and come into existence and
there's power behind it and we teach
that in our music I think our lives are
examples of that
definitely I'm gonna you know and it's
all you know every like I think people
get think of spiritual and it has to be
they have this like grand notion of but
they don't have to be like that it don't
have to be that deep you know just just
being kind is such a spiritual
revolutionary act like you know actually
just was it today or yesterday I can't
remember but you know there's a woman at
the gym and you know I'm very observing
I you know I've talked to people I'm
very you know communicative and you know
friendly with people and some to me just
simple as this the woman she had a new
hairdo and I commented I said oh you got
a new hairdo it looks nice
her face lit up her face lit up she was
so happy that probably made her day her
week you know what I'm saying like
something is even though okay it's
superficial that's it I don't care it
doesn't always have to be that deep it's
not really about that yeah I know all of
that but still I made her feel great and
there's no telling what that could lead
to what other things you know I'm saying
once you break past the surface you know
so something as simple as that and of
course obviously helping people out I
mean I'm always you know old people
older people here in my building helping
them with the grocery do whatever it may
be I'm saying of course you see someone
on the street maybe give them some money
that's kind of standard we all we
everybody kind of but my point is you
know just being kind a kind word a smile
oh you know you especially here where I
live I mean people are kind of known to
be you know negative by kind of and it's
understandable it's a pretty it's a it's
a fairly poor
country the standard of living is very
low you know the pay's aren't very good
and things like that so people aren't
always that happy and so you know how
many times I get I go to a store of just
whatever and they'll be like oh hi you
know well first I'll always be like hey
how are you today I'm all right how are
you I'm like I'm great
you know oh that's that's great to hear
like they don't ever hear it
but even cuz that I think can help
somebody right they be like oh this
person's a day because that's what you
hear I was how another day same [Â __Â ]
different day like yeah that's the same
yeah you know and it's just like I'm
just here I'm just existing I'm just
barely making it you know but that is a
lot of people's reality though man you
know we got a common look and I
completely that's the thing I would
never you know again I'm very fortunate
even without the music and I've never
had to struggle like that like
financially I've never had struggle I've
had struggles in different ways and very
difficult ones and hardships yeah in
different ways but financially I've
never struggled I've I've never I've
never known what it's like to really be
hungry you know like my mother for
example when she was young she knew what
that was like you know I'm saying like
they was living up on the mountain with
not much they weren't starving but she
might go extended periods of time
without eating I've never known that I
could go right now and go pack eat
whatever I want to now I'm not never be
hungry never be thirst I don't I won't
say I never will because you never know
what could happen but never have a bit
you know what I'm saying I've never even
had to you know be like oh damn and how
am I gonna pay my bills this one I've
never had none of that
you know so I can never tell somebody
who is in those situations I'll just be
positive that's ridiculous to me that's
kind of sending an arrogant you know and
coming from a privileged standpoint like
sure I'll have this I could have a
conversation with them and maybe if they
if they want to and there was
to it and maybe try to put things in a
certain perspective because even if I
haven't been in that situation it
doesn't mean that I can't understand it
and I can't empathize with them and that
I don't I know people who have been I
know how people have dealt with it you
know
that's the thing just because you know
you yourself you know the the I seen a
saying somewhere the smart people like
learn from their mistakes or their
experiences geniuses learn from others
experiences in in mistakes you know what
I'm saying so I'm saying I'm a genius or
anything like that but you know you
could learn a lot you don't have to
experience everything to to know about
it you could see other things so anyway
point is you know those people in those
kind of situations I'm not ever gonna
sit there and be just be like oh well
just be positive you know um but you
know cuz I definitely understand it's
not easy I can only imagine it's not you
know how you know it's is I got homies
right now you know close homies that are
in in in very difficult sensual
situations financially struggling to get
by and they doing everything they can to
remain positive and they're doing a good
job of it you know and I'm only I can
only be there to support them and so at
times when they when they seek it you
know offer some perspective and you know
whatever it may be but I would never
tell them to tell them I'll come on man
just you know just snap I just be
positive like nah you know that to me is
you know it's funny you say that because
you're coming from debt I'll guess
almost privileged and you don't have to
struggle you know are you a little
Ygritte Liz yeah I mean real dope yeah
but privileges it is in fact relative
though you know you got somebody there
are these people here okay
and I have told people here that are
they might complain and I have some type
of relationship so I feel open enough to
say hey listen do you you you are you
hungry
are you starving no
are you okay be hydrated no you have a
home to live in
yeah okay you're privileged yeah it's
not that bad for you nah it's all
relative but yes all things fitted I am
privileged I uh I say I say fortunate
that's the time more for her yeah why
I'm just because I feel like nowadays
privileges is it's a very loaded word
you know you got yeah which doesn't have
to be it's okay you know the privileges
there's nothing wrong with that but
acknowledge I'll definitely it is it is
wrong to have privilege that's that you
know when it when it's societal and it's
structural like white noise you think
that made you a male well let's say
that's a whole different discussion but
yeah I know what you say yeah I'm differ
in that area in that area so it's I find
it kind of kind of interesting that you
wouldn't tell people just to be positive
and then but I would coming from the
struggle I would say make be positive
we're gonna keep her for a better
tomorrow but I think you're saying that
you wouldn't just say that and keep
going yeah no I wouldn't and I like all
things I it would have to be somebody
that I have some type of you know yeah
yeah that I that I don't know okay but
even then you saying I'm no stay
positive and keep me yeah well yeah is
it there's something I've learned you
know and this comes as I learned a lot
of this with my sister synthesis big of
synthesis yeah you know just I've
learned when to listen and when to speak
yeah you know sometimes your your wisdom
and your posit it's not necessary a lot
of times people just need to [Â __Â ]
vent
yeah and just have you myself included
yeah and one and that's one of the worst
things is when you just need to vent
like sometimes even on social media I'll
post something and I may be just venting
and right away here come don't focus on
the negativity like yeah yeah Sam are
you a beacon of shining light every
single minute of the day like I'm just
keeping it real I have fleeting thoughts
you may perceive emotions whatever
it's okay to express them I want to
express them and I know the the bigger
picture I know all of it in turn in
relative terms the prospect of getting
right now I just need to [Â __Â ]
complain invent you know I'm saying so
that's what it really is about to me
knowing when okay you know this person
just needs to let off some steam and
they just need somebody to to say you
know what yeah you're right it is [Â __Â ]
up yeah Eddie you're you are in a shitty
situation Sam that sucks for you and I
really empathize with you and I feel bad
for you
you know completely a hundred percent
you're right
you know that's sometimes that is is
more valuable in what people need more
than me coming in and trying to be like
no no no listen this is how you gotta be
positive you know sometimes they just
need to get it out and to have someone
receive it and say you're right you know
what to feel where they're coming from
and then often times that could free
them up to finding on their own the
other perspectives
yeah which let's be real nobody likes to
be everybody likes to find things out on
their own yeah you know I may need to
feel like they came up with they figured
it out you know so that's really what
you know I definitely will you know when
the time is right when I feel oh of
course right I definitely you know try
to put that positive perspective on sure
it's sometimes quite frankly I may even
do it when it's not about not perfect
sometimes I may be like come on you know
let's just be positive like this it
could be worse a lot of times here too
people are very we've it's known here
that people complain a lot about this
situation so like okay somebody is you
know like I have I have a aunt and she's
older and she's an unfortunate situation
she had a stroke and she's you know and
she's very you know self pitying and
which is
understandable but like what her
oftentimes I gotta be like look it could
be wedding worse like there are people
way worse you know what I'm saying like
oh yeah sometimes it you just the the
self-pity it's hard for me to it's hard
for me to feel really sorry for people
who feel so sorry for themselves yeah
you know regardless of what their
situation is I do but then I'm like I
come on now you know there's a scripture
in the Bible man coming from the church
realm there's a scripture it says God is
not the author of confusion so people
would take that coming from the church
realm and say look if there's any
confusion then it's not of God and it's
not good because God is not the author
of confusion but to understand that
study they look at confusion as a bad
thing I like to look at the good side of
confusion and say that you're not gonna
search for the answers until you find
yourself in a state of confusion or
state of questioning man so to
understand that alchemy behind that to
like if you don't know what's going on
like that that's a really good place for
you to be because there you know that
okay it's time to ask the bigger
questions it's time to start looking for
the answers whether whether it's
financially many people in that in that
boat relationship-wise what am i doing
how am i messing things up why does it
this work and you're just confused man
but to be in that place to start asking
the bigger questions and looking for
those answers man it's a good place oh
of course that's basically everything
you just said is the the the the
starting point of all knowledge is not
knowing yeah I mean it all go it all
revolves around if your cup is full you
cannot you can't gain new information he
who thinks he knows that all novels the
least you know what I'm saying and
that's what ignorant is and that is
unfortunately of a problem that we face
because and that's one thing bro I know
you know they've always you've got all
the wise philosophers who say a you know
the the most intelligent people they
know that they know nothing and I swear
bro it's been this way for a long time
but the
older I get maybe the wiser the more
knowledgeable the more I'm just like I
do not know anything like and sometimes
it's a dilemma for me because Here I am
an activist yeah and wanting to be you
know but then I uh it's this you know
paradox I'm like okay you know there's
this information in this stuff that I
feel like it's necessary in that I but
then on the other hand I'm like but I
don't even know what I am and where I
came from and what this reality is for
sure and what everything is and
ultimately I don't know anything and
what the [Â __Â ] am I even doing people say
like it becomes this whole big you know
just knowing that of course like and I
think we do know things that we do know
things for sure certain things based on
concepts that we as humans have created
and weak for now we can stick to that
you know we want to get really deep I
mean I'm I'm one who says even our
science that we stayed this is science
hold on first is first of all the basic
premise of science is that science is
always proving itself wrong that's how
science evolves so so now you got these
scientists and these people based on
science will say no this is the science
now this is what it is the
end-all-be-all the absolute then then
you shouldn't be a [Â __Â ] scientist I
can't stand Neil Tyson Degrassi man I
can't say yeah look he drops
knowledgeable yeah he's one of the
arrogant type like it's a science man I
look back when the science said you know
all types of crazy [Â __Â ] now all forces
is not science so but even that you know
our our science I'm a science that's
based on math math numbers jika geometry
you know I'm saying on all of these
things getting still sure I do believe
there are universal principles but
everything we know is still based on our
very very limited understanding of these
things some some otherworldly entity
alien interdimensional being could come
could laugh at our our science and could
say y'all are just barely scratching the
surface it's like a it's like a
kindergartner who just learned how to
[Â __Â ] spell and read and then thinking
that they know it no know how to [Â __Â ]
you know how to write Shakespeare yeah
and then Shakespeare comes and says are
you kidding me do you wanna sell I'm
saying like so that's what I mean by we
don't really know anything because even
like even when we think we have it
figured out yeah we're always science is
always proven what we know wrong it's
always evolving so how can we right now
say anything for sure but that's all we
have to work with for now so you know
when it comes to especially like okay
there there are certain things that are
true like statistics okay when we talk
for example I talk about the war on
drugs about hey when I say you know
incarceration rates usage overdosing
availability prices when I talk about
all these things that have gone down or
up you know that negatively reflect the
war on drugs those are facts those are
statistics I don't care about who
created this world and what that doesn't
matter those are statistics those are
facts there's no debating that you know
in that sense numbers don't lie
you feel me it gets a yeah but even in
that world it gets it gets muddy too
because we're like okay well who's
behind it who started it who really is
perpetuating it who's out in the
government oh so do you think your cops
are working for you no these guys are
actually putting drugs on the street no
these guys are pulling for it to
confiscate drugs to for them to use for
themselves it gets gets muddier and in
deeper and stuff that's happening that
you don't know so to act like okay this
is it and this is only it it's just as
so many levels and we think off of off
of what we perceive and we think this is
the reality when it always there were
area goes deeper yeah no definitely
those are kind of more like that
more you know obviously you know I'm
deep on on the war on drugs just using
it as a sample without really getting
into deep into it but those are more
kind of like abstract that you can't
really but for example you know when we
talk about black people in America black
men in particular being
disproportionately arrested for drug you
know that that is [Â __Â ] black light
that is that's you know I'm saying like
you just we could we could argue well
why is that is it because the cops are
racist or what you know I definitely
have my but that stat line there's no
arguing it you know what I'm saying like
now what you say one of the things I
always find funny is like when they do
like surveys or and they kind of want to
base statistics on that like oh well you
know you'll see a and it's all it's all
what's the word translational headlines
yeah
men men now found you know men believe
that this kind of woman are women are
sexy or whatever it may be and okay
you're gonna you're gonna make a
generalization for all men based on a
survey of how many people you know how
many people how many factors come into
that you know what I'm saying you know
that it brings it into light as we watch
um Family Feud all the time yeah answers
like this
these are y'all talking to these answers
like they said they surveyed a hundred
people where who said that that was what
they right this is weird you know yeah
exactly I don't think this are very
planful I think they they just come with
writers or something come up with
somebody's you know
yeah it's artistic because it because
there's people who would debate you even
which you just said and I've seen them
do it about the disproportional numbers
where the arrest rates or the the cop
killings they're saying that you know
cops are killing more white people than
black and it's they can show statistics
improve and there's people who that's
what they do and they try to make those
cases but uh I don't know man I don't
know if it's something new I definitely
know that we now have the ability to
film it and everything's on the internet
now and everybody has a smartphone so I
think that this stuff has been going on
for sure but now it's all over the
Internet
like people are observing and and that
they're taking advantage of the
technology that kind of shows you in
Justices and stuff and when you're when
it come I think my simple factor with
with the you know the black guys being
being shot for just moving wrong or or
putting their heads up and still being
shot like these people are scared to
death of black guys man like they're
like that first of all they're scared
and they're racist too so there's that
yeah and yeah the ones where the guy
tells you to go in the car and get you
while it's show me your ID you go back
to the car to get your wallet and he
unloads on you it's like yes dudas he's
scared to death
he says life and they should not be
police officer like that just look just
the fact that people don't understand
like just the fact that those white cops
are scared of black people is race yeah
even you don't have to have hatred in
your heart towards black people to be
wasted just the fact that you have this
preconceived notion and it's not even
there for a lot of times because that's
what society pushes that's the best of
propaganda like yo I live here in in
this country where it's big all white
people and how many times I gotta check
people cuz they'll talk about black
people just and they base it off of
movies they they think all black people
are gangsters and criminals yeah you
know I'm saying and I gotta be like fan
that's not and that's what a lot of
these cops think too you know what I'm
saying so and then but I'll jump the
main without getting obviously there's
so much to get into you gonna come to
that issue in terms of emigrate ISM and
you know structural violence and these
these things and the police and well
ultimately my my main thing is that
police officers need to be way way
better
evaluated trained prepared selected he
said honestly I think I think police I
think the first as soon as there's the
technological advancement we're robots
can be fully functional police officers
should be robots on everything like I am
for know transhumanism or whatever I
what it will be robots in society
whether we like it or not yeah women
evil - there's none of us well in that
you know well that's one thing that's
you know people think technology idea
tech not know technology is not is is
neutral it is not inherently good or bad
robots could be amazing
for example police robots because they
will not have any bias unless they
program them to which you never know
with this crazy what let's assume they
don't they will not any bias they not
have fear they will stick to the strict
protocol and you know how different it
would change things when it comes to law
enforcement if they were literally
robots yeah well let me not say robots
machines because a lot of people don't
know the word robot actually comes from
the Slavic word which I'm absorbing to
say for the word is robota or rubato
which means slave and even now in my
language that ibotta means work but it
actually means servitude of people will
say like anna butter for work and
actually another thing people don't know
the word slave means sloth because for
those who don't know the slavic
subjugation of the slaves happened
almost a thousand years before you know
the African slave trade yeah and most of
the a lot of the tactics they used in
the way that they went about the African
slave trade was based on the the slavic
slave trade and the very word slave it
would be said Slava because here like if
you add an e to the end of a name like
if your name is is John they'll say when
they're referring to you to say Johnny
you know I'm saying so that's how they
would refer to my ancestors the slobby
people Slavic and eventually came slayed
so just a quick history lesson for those
of you who don't know that's deep yeah
that's a lot whenever you break down the
spelling of words and people are
associated hey with the slaves like they
that they're calling each other that
they don't even know it like we say yeah
you're saying and we break down the
spelling and the writing and the power
behind word just what we're talking
about - the power behind it we're
speaking stuff over our lives and we've
agreed to it and don't even know it
don't even know what what's going on man
what we're answering to you know yeah
I'm actually I'm I've seen the other day
and this is probably did something I
want to speak on more in-depth because
I've seen you know on Twitter somebody
said they wanted to stop they wanted to
basically get people to stop using the
word slave and instead say enslaved
people and of course to me I'm like this
person doesn't even know what the word
slave means like you're going from
saying you saying slave to enslaved
people why me as a slave of Slavic
descent
I would I would then if we're gonna do
that let's take away slave altogether
because literally think about that think
about that like I ain't I ain't taking
anything away from the from the struggle
of black people or nothing like that but
think about that yo all these every all
subjugated people are referred to as
Slavs as an esse as a nation a culture
of people how are we supposed to feel
about that you know and obviously I
understand that person does not know the
things that I know so I didn't feel any
kind of way about it but you see what
I'm saying I don't even know the words
and that is such a word that is so now
especially used and thrown around in
slave enslavement slavery slave you're
saying Slav Slavic person
can we get rid of that can we check
that's why I like I use it to still in a
lot but I'm trying to my preferred would
be subjugation subjugated person
subjugated people subject even to refer
instead of slave subject like Native
Americans calling them Indians because
they thought they were from India you
know I and it's still there they still
don't even recognize who these people
really are those type of dealers man is
there is deep when it comes down to the
words man um before we move too far I
wanted to talk about I kind of brought
it up for a second but I wanted to talk
about this progression it's definitely
taking place in in the hip-hop
communities that were a part of but it's
taken its I think because it's a
progression that many people go on just
what they're seeking for truth and
trying to make stuff happen so with
which I started out doing Christian
music and then I got into more the
political and Alex Jones and 9/11 truth
and those type of deals right and then I
did that and then it kind of evolved
okay just pointing in it a lot of that
deals were just pointing at the problem
hey let's we want change we want change
we are changed right these movements and
and they are trying to do stuff that
makes up happen but there's a lot of
just protests going on so then I think
for me it turns into like this conscious
thing okay okay so what to be conscious
okay this is how we can bring about
change this is what we can do that's
being conscious of the political
injustice and things going on and then
it goes from okay the way that I change
and do the work is to change myself and
do the work within myself and then
spiritually right to do the work
spiritually and then to influence others
to do the same that we all pretty much
have a spiritual awakening and I've seen
that with the progression of the music
of being political conscious and then
more spiritual and I if I'm right I've
seen that with your music as well and I
think that's a progression not at you've
any immortal technique right is that is
that a progression that most of us are
on is like these people who are just
shaking their fist at the government
event
surely they're gonna stay like the real
changes if I can change myself and then
begin to change the people around me
spiritually and then we can start seeing
some some real change when you speak up
speak on that a little bit yeah man I
think so I think well for me personally
it actually started with the spiritual
because it was like shoe like 2010 and
um first sis sis put me on to the secret
yeah and that was like the first thing
that like was like but see I've always
been even back when I was in Chicago and
just out in the streets while at night I
would read up on Buddhism and that's the
type of [Â __Â ] always fascinated you know
I'm saying I even have tatted on my
forearm or you know a quote from Tagore
you know I'm saying it was like I I
don't know if he was Buddhist
philosopher but I know he was a I
believe in Asian philosopher for anyway
I know I found the quote in like some
book about Buddhism and it was like you
know it just was dope so anyway I was
always into that but you know life has a
funny way of just taking you wherever
you need to go so and I didn't really
you know I didn't need to it wasn't my
time at that time even though I was
gathering little jewels and you know
little seeds were being planted in my
mind here and there it was until like
2010 when sis for me on to the secret
and then that just opened my mind of
like whoa you know it just made sense
the whole law of attraction manifest in
it you know I I still believe in it but
I've kind of that I think is that whole
secret thing it was cool but like it's a
little bit too they make it seem a
little bit like oh yeah just thinking
and everything's gonna happen like I
don't know well anyway then it started
getting just going down the rabbit hole
with spirituality watching different
documentaries and and really just
getting into uh you know the mind and
the in the spirit and that actually then
led me to the political you know I'm
saying like what really it was it was
actually uh my my my bro here this dude
his name is Lance Lance Sullivan he was
he's
from he's from Ohio Columbus Ohio and he
was out here playing basketball
professionally here in it where I live
and I met dude and we just linked up
like we were just you know vibing and he
put me on two we would we would sit
around and you know saying watch
documentaries and he put me onto this
documentary about the war on drugs and
that was you know cuz I had my whole
experience in the past and you know
succumbing to that whole crap anyway
that you know it just was like yo what
the [Â __Â ] you know I'm saying like that's
what really then turned it into like man
I gotta get political with you know I
gotta start spreading it and that just
that's when I was like that was the main
thing that was like yo if this is like
this the war on drugs and they could lie
to us this much and deceive us and then
I don't believe anything else let me go
and research all of this [Â __Â ] and let me
find out you know all the truth and and
then of course like having this talent
cuz I wasn't even rapping back then I
had stopped for years I wasn't rapping
and I was like man I gotta use the
positive but well ultimately yes and
I've been for years like yo you know the
revolution is within the revolution of
oh like that is the you know that is the
choice because look you can have all the
information or the knowledge you can
remember all the facts the statistics
the dates all of that but in the end of
the day if you are if you're just lost
if you're law all that is gonna do is
make your life miserable yeah because
especially with what we do because it is
a heavy burden when you when you find
out all this information and you know
the truth of the world we live in it is
a it is a heavy heavy weight that we all
hold on ourselves on our chest on our
shoulders and if you don't find some
type of inner peace and some type of
balance you know for me personally
I need the anger I need the dark I need
that that fuels me that's why I do
that's why I started doing what I do
yeah if you know anybody who says I'll
know the dark the Nagus turn oh you need
that to like look you know this is the
word it's a world of duality it's
yin-yang it's relativity it's all it's
all you know I'm saying like go and
there is nothing to me there is there is
nothing that is inherently bad meaning
there's nothing that we can't experience
that through alchemy cannot become
something amazing
nothing I don't care what it is the
worst most most heinous of acts of
things that could be done to you they've
been done to people and people have
managed to turn them into miracles and
into the best thing that has ever
happened to them myself included you
know the things that something that
happened to me that I thought my life is
over
it's a wrap I'm done you know I'm gonna
kill myself like all of that now it was
the it was the turning point it was the
starting point of where I'm at now and
how because I love where I'm at now and
I love Who I am
how could I ever look back on that with
anything but but gratitude that's weird
gratitude before it happening you
understand what I'm saying so there is
no you know I don't I don't I don't
subscribe to the to the notion that
there's inherent evil or inherent or
even in hearing good I mean look at it
we live in a world where you know
throughout the ages people have done
things that now we look we look down
upon but at the time they thought it was
amazingly great thing for all of other
people all of humanity sacrifice a
virgin [Â __Â ] you know I mean I don't
of course I don't agree with it or
condone it but it's hot you know and I
know the whole moral relativism it's a
slippery slope
it is it is store I do believe that we
need some type of you know moral
foundation or but in the end of the day
I am I think I would be
Eve to recognize that in the grandest
picture of the universe the universe
knows not what what is net good or bad
or negative look people I tell people
this too they say why do they why do
well if the law of attraction and that
if it's real then why do bad people have
good things happen to them you know why
because maybe those people do not feel
that what they're doing is bad therefore
they do not emit an energy yeah that the
universe is going to return to them they
could be killing somebody and they are
[Â __Â ] happy and they they're they're
feeling awesome about it of course we
had we met show last night and he said
that the universe only knows one thing
yes to whatever you're projecting with a
vibration create yeah it only knows
vibration that's it yes to your
vibration what is the vibration that you
are putting out you know what I'm saying
like look we often times we even trick
ourselves into thinking you know we may
be doing something good and do what are
you feeling good about it and then we
ask ourselves why do I always do good
stuff and it doesn't come back to me how
you doing what's your intention what's
your vibration that you're putting out
while you're doing it yeah and you win
are you feeling really good about it are
you just doing it just to do it thinking
oh it's gonna come back to me or you
don't really want to do it or whatever
it may be
it's five-page and look the language of
the universe is vibration that's it it
is vibration it's that's it so and
that's that's science as we know it I
mean maybe it's not but you know so
you're this vibration right what what
senator at the end of the day it's got
to come from something or somewhere and
then it gets deeper it gets into the
spirit realm it's like oh characters
with energy and vibration what about
beings that live and feed off of
vibrations would have things right did
it and beings that exist that eat energy
and they live off of energy angelic and
demonic so that gets into a whole
listen any story there are human beings
who they don't know it they're not
conscious of it but how they thrive on
they live off of others energy how
weather and a lot of inner patterns just
what they call right but some of its
positive to you again there's no
inherent good or bad yeah you live
people live off of our energy yeah in a
good way the energy put out through our
music to our activism and they'll it
they don't they they they're not
sustained by it in the physical weight
but they live off of it it gives them
something that that does sustain them
mentally and emotionally in spiritual so
and then of course like you said the
vampires too they they live off of they
thrive off of seeing you feel like [Â __Â ]
off of your low frequency making you you
know now you inverted by anybody you
don't have Sam then you got those two so
now will you're saying on a whole deeper
level that is crazy like that's just
like man you know if there is that if
there are like no I mean I told I can
happen some of them attached to me right
now what you do on a microscopic
organism level there all right there are
little entities and I talked about it
last night there's some of them that
look like little panda bears these
little microscopic beings that you can't
see but they're there and and your body
is a whole ecosystem of even degree so
I'm out tardigrades yeah all that hard a
few guys man and then there's other
organisms or beings on you that want to
kill those things and they want to eat
them for dinner and even in your gut
your gut is a whole area yeah all the
bacteria the gut the gut bacteria and
that changes the way that you feel that
your mo think as a person it all your
body's a huge ecosystem of what you put
in your body what you allow to live on
it if you bathed when you bathe and use
soap
you're killing some of those little
beings that rely on your dead skin to
live and you're killing them and it's
this crazy cycle man
if we look at it of what that exists you
can see them with a trained eye the eye
being a microscope and so when we're
dealing with spirituality in the spirit
realm and these other organisms
organisms there's people who can tap in
with a trained eye being the third eye
and going to it and feel energy on
people an impression like us almost like
a spirit some traditions we call them a
spirit of depression or being and remove
that stuff and they do whether it's
through prayer or fasting or changing
the diet lots of things come into effect
there but the outcome it's working maybe
it cement and mental blockages things
like that dude but it gets into so much
stuff that's interesting and lets us
know that like you said we think we got
it figured out we think that that we
have this you know and if we look at
like healing like childhood wounds and
stuff so we talked about racism like we
talked about a little bit of while ago
so someone could be racist because they
were a white kid who got beat up every
day by black guys they have this inward
racism that they hate black people they
are black people want to and they think
they have a fear they're essentially to
them it's a healthy fear because I feel
around a bunch of black I gotta watch
out I might get jumped and that's the
reality right so what we're dealing with
was trauma in dealing with that we deal
with people who go into healing circles
and sessions and who are able to deal
with that trauma deal with that wound
whether it's moving in a spirit of
forgiveness and dealing with it and
having the right the right way to look
at that situation and release it and
forgive it Indian people are finding
healing from that and and getting over
their fear or traumas in many and I'm
just using this as an example and as
we're talking about rape culture we're
talking about people being poor and
thinking that they're gonna be poor the
rest of their life and they have this
mental agreement that it that my family
was poor so I'm probably gonna be poor
too but you have to feel what they get
over it and change the way that you
think change that belief system man
and it does get really deep and it works
though so I like to talk about with how
much spirituality that works that's what
I like I don't like to deal with
conspiracies and stuff anymore I like to
deal what what works cuz this kind of
stuff we're putting into action and it's
helping people it's changing other
people live and they go on to pursue
their dreams and you empower them like
hey man pursue your dreams and to let
them know that the the universe agrees
with them and put those dreams within
them and they in the universe or God or
whatever we want to call it wants them
to be happy and it's not a sin to be
happy it's not a sin to make money like
there's people who have that poverty
mentality when we talk about money and
you get the messages from those people
all the time that they don't want to
touch money so if somebody comes up to
them with a record deal or they want
them to Commission them for work I'll do
it for free bro no let me let me pay you
$200 for that no I'll do it for free
because not that they don't need the
money or they don't want it but they
have this notion there that if they
receive the money then they'll be just
feeding into that system
my wife reading a book right now and
it's talking about the power of
agreement and and how to succeed and
stuff and they're talking about the
whole the whole money thing as far as
people equating money equating being
successful in working with okay when I
was a kid when my dad worked he was gone
for months at a time
where I couldn't show up to the ball
games my dad wasn't there to take me to
school he wasn't there to take me to the
park because my dad was out making money
to provide for the family
so they equate with being successful as
time away from the family and time
closed off by yourself so we have to get
over those those beliefs that aren't
true and limiting movie exactly man so
it is powerful and it is what about
myself like you know just the with the
music to be able to make money from it
it's definitely something that I've had
to work at it because I was you know my
father he you know for most of my child
as a janitor and there's you know
absolutely nothing wrong with that
but he was a janitor and he was very
unhappy with you know his job yeah and
my whole my whole he ultimately you know
went on and and and was able to acquire
some of his own properties and you know
it's all to the bank it's nothing owned
the bank owns it but you know how it is
you get the mortgage you collect the
rents you pay it you pay off you pay off
the bank you've got something for
yourself so he did oh he did alright but
my whole thing was always even
unconsciously in my mind I realized you
know later in life really once I started
getting involved with this and making
money from it that you know I had I had
a bad limiting belief that nah you can't
make money doing what you love if you
don't happen yeah making money means you
got to work hard for somebody else and
be civil and be unhappy and come home
like my father used to come home I grow
tired but just grumpy angry mad because
you know he had dreams he wanted to be a
soccer player you know he didn't want it
he didn't want to you know like in the
beginning have to clean people's toilets
and take out you know rich white
people's not that it matters what race
they are but that's what it was yeah
they try and if the only reason it
matters is because those were the people
that I know degraded him yeah he was an
immigrant man could it he could barely
speak English
yeah you know I'm so um his bosses
treated him poorly you know so he would
come home angry and upset and it and he
took it out on on his family even even
if he wasn't trying to we all were if I
I remember as a kid my work math my you
know once I got old enough to really you
know when I was maybe ten and a teenager
in those years worst part of my day was
when my father would come home for more
yeah and that's a horrible horrible
thing for a child yeah very no duh I was
the worst part of my day and on every
day and and that was so ingrained in me
that okay yeah he ultimately went on and
he made a decent living for himself
acquired from his own properties and
bought a house and this is great but it
what cost
to me it was all it was you had to you
had to just work work be miserable be
you know and that was definitely a
limiting belief there and I still it
still creeps in I still have to deal you
know I still have to have to UM work it
reprogramming my mind to say you know
well it doesn't have to be like that
yeah I know it doesn't because I'm doing
it now I might not be making thousands
upon thousands but I am in fact earning
money from doing what I love to do and
from being happy about it you know so
it's so many limiting beliefs man I just
posted today on Instagram about dealing
with our childhood dealing with our
childhood issues and being truthful
about them and every everything we
everything comes from the childhood
everything comes real yeah like and
that's the thing most of us I don't care
I don't care what you do for a living
how much money you got what your social
status is you are not grown you are not
an adult which most people aren't if you
have not dealt with those issues like
that is the only way to grow to be an
adult you know and of course society oh
you're 18 you're on your own you're
making a living you're an adult
what no not even close
like in that that is the root cause of
so much dysfunction in this world
particularly on you know obviously the
world is just a collective of smaller
units right of individuals of family
units so I mean when you look at if
we're gonna be real I personally I don't
know any any personally except for like
some of my homies now who have started
their own families like you know big up
a spirit and a couple of them are a
couple other my homies but I don't know
any functional healthy family units you
know I'm saying where there's not some
type of you know crazy residual issue
and people are walking around like
harboring these you know these wounds
these issues from their childhood bro
like the biggest you know the biggest
thing the spirit in terms of
spirituality and everything the biggest
thing that anyone can do and I think
that I did was start to confront those
deeper cuz everything like you know III
I had I was in a relationship and it was
tumultuous and you know and yeah the
young lady would that I was with she did
act in very you know unfavorable ways
and you know treated me poorly but and I
would get upset with her and you know
all I could think of was you know it's
her she's making me mad I'm mad cuz I
heard yeah well I started to realize no
yes sure she's doing things that are
poking Edie the issues I already have
and once I started to really analyze
myself and why why do these things that
she do that she does make me feel that
way and I could started to trace it all
back to my childhood
yeah in the Aryan sense that I had and I
realized it's not herded up that I'm so
much mad at as it is my parents even you
know like then it would be this anger I
felt towards my parents for like
behaving a certain way that caused me to
now have these issues as well that I
have to deal with there's laws and
things wait yeah exactly and and it's
hard man listen it is hard and that's
why most people don't do it because it's
hard it opens up all types of [Â __Â ] it's
a heart is a hell a it's a everyday job
it is a full-time job you
I'm always being a conscious of why I'm
thinking a certain way why I'm feeling a
certain way and you know sometimes I
revert back sometimes I'm again I'm not
perfect I you know I tell people like
look Sam I'm peaceful um but I'm not
perfect
I I can't tell you right now that I've
never ever even punched somebody in the
[Â __Â ] face I don't know cuz I I'm not
in every single situation I have not
been in every single possible situation
that could happen matter of fact I can't
even fathom every single situation that
I could possibly find myself in so how
could you are you would have to be
absolutely naive to say I will never
ever do anything look man never know
what situation you could find yourself
in and I'm not perfect
so I still to this day I can lose my
temper
I haven't been look I haven't been
violent in a long long time and I've
lost my temper oh yeah yep I one time I
yo eye on everything one time I realized
why gorillas pounce on their chests cuz
I did that [Â __Â ]
and it was not on everything and it was
completely natural yeah I didn't about
it I was just so angry in this moment
and I didn't want it I didn't want to
hit anyone I didn't want to hit a wall
so I just started pounding on my [Â __Â ]
chest bro yeah on everything I don't
know maybe it's cuz I've since going
vegan it just brought out the gorillas
me now but on everything bananas and I
realized and then it was like whoa
that's probably why they do that cuz you
have this buildup of energy little kids
do it do my daughter she when she was a
kid she'd scratch herself she'd get mad
at us and she I mean little baby
Oh like what do you do why are you
hurting yourself cuz you're mad at me
like what's the deal yeah and the bed
especially with the chest cuz like you
don't really hurt yourself pounding on
your chest well I mean I got a pretty
big chest
you know with it but it's crazy though
because that's just on on a side tangent
like you know people feel like if you if
you have if you act like aggressively in
a physical form that
oh you're crazier but no it is in us it
is in us it is a release of energy you
know of course if you release it on
someone's face that is a different story
but to have this built up feeling of
anger of whatever it is and to want to
release it physically yo a lot of
therapists tell you go and beat a pillow
up yeah yeah you know that is perfectly
normal I mean one of the most damaging
things and I feel like this whole new
age kind of pseudo you know I think it
perpetuated it yeah don't exist yeah
like you should have no negative
negative emotions yeah you should always
just be positive
oh if you feel just blah no no like the
most spiritual [Â __Â ] thing that
anybody could do all y'all listeners out
there listen to me I don't know anything
I don't know something I don't know but
just listen it is the most spiritual
thing you can [Â __Â ] do is be a human
being
that's it we are everybody you know I
think there's this notion of Oh
spirituality I need to transcend
humanity do I need to become this
enlightened individual who's gonna
meditate 20 [Â __Â ] days in a row and
not eat for 40 and then you know what
I'm saying and have people you know and
he'll get no that's for some people
that's their gender time I personally
yeah there is for some people but let's
be real most of us will never achieve
that level nor are we meant to you're
the most of us the most spiritual thing
is simply having the human experience
and that means all of it the the things
we perceive as good as bad as negative
the feelings the emotions they are all
part of us and why and what our spirit
our energy
it is why it chose to be in this vessel
if you believe that or not that is why
we are in this vessel not to get out of
it
because that's what the spiritual you
know leave it no ism be in it experience
it feel all of it yeah but learn how to
cope with those feelings learn how to
deal with them
yeah learn how to transform the ones you
think are negative into the positive
learn how to utilize the positive to
help others these things not just oh I'm
just gonna be positive all day like
you're if you could do that you must be
living in some other world or be
delusional because I don't know how you
could do that in this world I mean but I
wouldn't want to hide it should be that
there should be things that you see that
enrage you you should be pissed off if
you study PETA or what's going on with
animals and whatever you like there
should be things that piss you off man
of how black people are treated in
America or for me and everybody's
different everybody has their passion
for me it was the whole job thing you
know I'm saying and it pissed me off
because I'm working a job building
somebody else's Kingdom and what they
envisioned and built and breathes and
created I'm here I'm working trapped
building their system and Empire I want
to pursue my dreams there's things here
that I want to do full-time and that I'm
good at doing they may not make a lot of
money but I enjoy doing these and I
would give whatever I need to to give to
be able to make that happen
that's why I am now and so it moves me
to with empathy and compassion to see
people who are working these jobs work
that they don't want to be like I see
and it blows my mind man driving down
the freeway and seeing all these cars
people headed to jobs that they're at by
default not that somebody enjoys the
career they love where they are but
people who were I I feel like they're
like me and and they're uncomfortable
and we got a guy right now I'm about to
bring a collar and he's talking about
working at McDonald's I know he doesn't
see himself
in 20 years or five years or one year
working at McDonald's like we have
dreams and visions and most of us give
up on those dreams and we're like yeah
that's a dream it's only for those who
are asleep right but to really
understand that we can't obtain those
those dreams and we can't make them
happen with having goals and things that
work and and and there's so many people
there and so that's what I hate to see
other people like it was is at Walmart
and seeing people greeting at Walmart or
seeing people taking groceries I'm like
not if they like it in there cool cool I
have to get over that I don't think that
nobody could be but there's some who
really enjoy working at McDonald's they
get it through it's thrilling they love
it but yo I've been to some nice
McDonald's back in the states like Drive
countryside I like Wisconsin yeah that
seems like a decent gig and those kind
of McDonald yeah you know some of them
they paid good man and as long as I'm
making a living but but I'm but it moves
me for that person who has that dream
and they've given up on it but it's
still there's a spark there and we can
recapture the dream and we can make it
happen
I believe that everybody should be happy
man I believe that everybody should
pursue what's inside of them you want to
work with animals you and you have an
overwhelming sensation within you that's
what this was my wife to work with
animals how do I do that and the
universe and being patient and and
learning from mistakes and stepping on
in faith she's working with animals now
she's working with horses and disabled
children every day she's working her
dream job and getting paid to do it and
she loves it so that's what that's what
moves me man but yeah man and I want to
just quick add to that like we talking
about the work and a you know making
your dreams and and there's it all
starts with the mind state with the
intention we believe in but it's work to
men and that's happy a lot of people but
a Hondo man a lot of people don't really
put in the work like I noticed with this
rap [Â __Â ] you know like you know I see a
lot of cats who want to do it you know
maybe ask me for advice and then you you
know I could tell there's cats who will
think it's a overnight type of thing who
think it's like you know they might see
me I got you know I'm not even that big
but you know I got whatever however many
fuels however many followers whatever
there and you know and it was okay I
guess it was relatively short period of
time that I've been out there but people
don't understand like look every severy
even the money that I get now from music
you know when that you know how long
I've been working for that money since I
was 10 years old brother since the first
time I got in my mind I want to be a
rapper yeah it started coming up with
ideas for rap songs and I might work in
at work and when I was 13 and started
rapping and when I was a teenager and
battled an endless countless ciphers
freestyle when I was obsessed with being
the dopest emcee and all my mind thought
about was rapid I wrote lyrics all day
if I wasn't right in there as I'm
freestyling I used to sleep with the pen
and the notepad next to my bed cuz I
would wake up in the middle of the night
and write rhymes it's all I was consumed
by it yeah so you know people see they
just see the songs and see anything or
you know
nah and I literally blood sweat and
tears bro been in battles got in fights
over over this rap [Â __Â ] fights crews
battling Fighting's brawling all of that
you know I'm saying that's that's that's
the work that is needed to put in and
maybe not I understand not everyone
needs to take the same route as I did or
even do as much as I did because
especially with rap nowadays it's like
you can actually and is a big part of it
like you can put out one song in the
mainstream and beautiful and blow up you
know I'm saying like it's literally cats
who probably never rapped in a size up
and their life
yeah we have photos they've never rapped
in your life they step in the booth
somebody told him what they do they
tried it in a billionaires try that was
the trigger dad James he's one of it
listen to it listen to his interviews it
wasn't a rapper he just that by then did
it all repeated these Cadence's and
millionaire listen I wouldn't be mad if
it wasn't like that trash content I
wouldn't be mad at it of course that
makes it to me you know even worse but
I'm alive cause part of me is when I see
that it's salty cuz yeah like in the end
of the day I'm not a jealous person and
I'm not I'm not gonna focus on that but
when we talk when I talk about it or if
I think about it for whatever reason of
course bro like you know I'm um it's not
even about oh I'm an old school head and
unlike that light but there aren't very
I don't even think there's very many
very many cats rapping from my
generation that put in as much work as I
did on the street you know like cuz
that's what I'm talking about the battle
in the freestyle and the cypher is even
organized
battles all of that bro and then of
course like I started I started recorded
and professionally put out a
professional EP when I was 17 years old
you know I'm saying I'm 36 now you know
I'm talking about
so was rockin shows do did a tour of the
Midwest you know I'm saying open up four
Grammy award-winning group the roots
when I was 18 years old
you know time out when I was 21 was by
the source for those you know the new
school heads they don't even probably
know what the source is but the source
was I believe hip hop back in the day
the unsigned I discovered biggie
Mobb Deep Eminem that you know they had
a they had a nationwide across America a
nationwide um Talent Search contest
thousands of people entered I placed top
five in all of America on spot a source
unsigned unsigned height you know
started garnering record record record
label attention all of that was on the
verge of signing a deal but anyway
that's a whole nother story cuz [Â __Â ]
took a turn for the worst and you know
but here but it for the better but a
word
yeah for the better yeah so cuz right
now you I probably be one of those cats
on TV that that right now I probably be
talking [Â __Â ] about myself like look at
this dude talking that nonsense so but
anyway my point is like I you know when
I loved you like man I put in so much
work that nobody even knows about for
the most part and then of course huh you
know of course I'm gonna feel a little
bit of like when I see somebody who's
like damn this cat ain't even you know
I'm saying ever even actually really
wrapped aside from in his home studio or
you know like I used to get mad I used
to get pissed honestly like when I first
started the cat's will be like ours guys
just say YouTube rapper like yo call me
anything but do not call me a YouTube
brad.leah I mean even now you know I
don't even know if people even say that
anymore but you know back like when I
first started that was a big thing how
do you have to be a YouTube wraparound
said I think it was Waka Flocka that
said uh you could be popping in the
street but if you ain't popping on the
internet you're not popping at all right
you know yeah that's what I mean that's
the information highway that's where we
are now and it definitely we use avatar
as man and we're able to connect with
the nation's through it man um to kind
of piggyback just off a little bit about
what you talked about growing and it's
about growing in about the words that we
speak and putting in the hard work about
about whatever dream you have you have
to put in you don't just think about it
and then you manifest it you think about
it but you have to be obsessed with it
too okay and the whole thing with
shamanism and stuff with me is like the
spirituality it's like to go into those
start patterns in those realms to say oh
how can I go in there and pull that
stuff out and bring it into my reality
and to help other people do that to like
those dreams like how can we manifest
this dream I see this vision this is
what I want to do how do I make it
happen to go into those realms
spiritually meditation think about it
contemplate it and be consistent
like that's what it is even with
podcasting I love podcasting people
don't know I live this stuff I listen to
podcast up
podcasting what to do in a pod how to
interview people like what not to do
what to talk about and it's a learning
process and so to be in and to be
consistent with the man it's a lot that
people don't even know that and people
will try to tell me how to do my job and
all you should do this better I don't
like that you should do that say hey man
like this is strategic like what I'm
doing this for teaching it's not like I
don't have guests on here and debate my
guests and argue with them and stuff
because they come with another
understanding or another philosophy or
whatever the case is like it's strategic
man you know and I find I found much
peace in unity and working together but
to hit on you're talking about the words
man and never say never because I want
to kind of go back to that you're
talking about that I'll never do this
man I am I'm a human right I am
spiritual I'm very spiritual my life
consists of spirituality and helping
people and studying scriptures and how
to apply it and spending time with God
and being conscious of my words and
conscious of my thoughts and things like
that and uh I'm very spiritual but I
went to a party one night a couple years
ago I got in a fistfight at a party I
would have never I would have never
normally did you serve a month yeah I
did I I did but our buddy the voice who
took it to another level and we could
have gotten it we could have got it our
lives could have changed yeah it was bad
it really was bad right but but going
out I never thought that would happen
now was it my intention we went to a we
went to we went to watching UFC fight
and alcohol but you know drugs and
alcohol man or Provident people get in
your face and talking BS you know and
just have in your space you know right
and uh but and then even on that I would
have never thought that happened freaked
me out
and people even my friends they were
freaked out to see me go into that to
turn into that gorilla you know but even
like coming up like dealing with the
churches and stuff man
there's a lot of pastors and people who
are coming off a dope and coming off
with drugs and coming off a meth and
stuff like that and they they would say
it I'm never gonna do meth again
God gave me he changed my life I'm never
going back to it and they mean it it
comes from an innocent place but I find
out you can't you can't test God
you can't Never Say Never man because
there's people bro I'm telling man even
in the religious system is where I come
from but I've seen those people who have
beautiful marriages in there they're
doing good and then they they they let a
little slack up they quit taking those
thoughts captive like I said you know
sorry they start wander and they start
looking at other women and our beautiful
functioning family is now destroyed
because they wanted to go outside of the
marriage bed or that that youth pastor
who was helping peak coaching people on
how to get off a dope and stay off of it
they let their guard down and had a bad
day and maybe tried it one time because
it was something familiar it was a place
of comfort that they remember and they
tried dope again in it and it comes back
like a freakin flood dude and they
they're the junkies now people who were
successful had families and and great
jobs are now junkies and addicted to
pills man so I never say never and I and
like you said learn from the mistakes of
others like learn from our own mistakes
a hundred percent but if you can love
you learn about watching other people
and say okay this dude is doing this and
it's not working I'm not gonna do that
but if I do if I can't look at diesel
it's okay this is working for diesel
he's he puts out a video oh you know all
the songs that take off for diesel he
has a music video for him let me do that
let me make sure that we're putting out
visuals with our videos if we want them
to really have a life and birth
something and bring about ideas let's
just shoot videos and just find out what
works whether it's for you or other
independent artists or other people in
spirituality or other people who have
families okay this dude okay you okay I
have a successful marriage I've been
married to my um I started dating my
wife when I was 14 I'm 33
we got married I got married when I was
17 I have a beautiful marriage and God
has blessed it so there's things that
work if you want to learn what to do how
to have a successful marriage
watch us check us out I'm glad to give
advice but you can't go out you can't
you can't you can't go out to the bars
you can't go out drinking without your
spouse and leave them at home and do
things like there's just things you
can't do you can't be in a room with the
woman by yourself and just or let girls
come over and hang out during the day
there's things you can't do I have
friends who do those things in their
marriage and they wonder why it doesn't
work out you got to have it you got to
have boundaries and stuff man so we have
to learn from the mistakes and and learn
by watching other people with that being
said I'm gonna go ahead and bring in
this guest man he wants to talk to you
hey what hanging on the phone for a good
bit so we got a caller from California
who we speaking with yo yo what's up fam
who dad over here chillin man
you yeah yeah yo yo what's your name fam
do do we do I know you from from some
social media Sunday yeah oh sure what's
up was good brother
hey man hey secret man oh man don't be
puttin us down man you got you kind of
kind of muffled your speakerphone see if
you can hold the phone a little bit
closer you're kind of muffled okay yeah
just hold the phone a little bit closer
would you say no yeah I'm on
speakerphone oh whatever well I got my
iPhone I get this sounds better now so
what's good fam hey hey I have some
questions man you got yo are y'all ready
expired and sit ah
fire away man you got a towaway floor
amen
hey that Mary thing though that's this
is a hard talk right their home could be
done man I know you was he was hollering
at me the other day about a few things
bro you didn't get mad you got any
questions for do you know do my thing
like you know when the marriage were
like talking about we're looking at
other woman yeah that's all that's all
the truth right there yeah for sure man
saw are you I can't I can't like be like
you know loyal okay I'll say this man
and I do you you wouldn't believe how
many messages I get from people wanting
to know how to make it work and how can
they deal with lust and looking at women
and wandering eyes and stuff this is
what I say this is what works for me I
believe that the first look is okay I
believe that if you look at a woman you
in your mind wanders and it's like oh
man she's hot she's got a fat booty
whatever the case is how how guy's mind
works and so and so I think the first I
think the first thought is okay man but
just I think I think that the sin comes
in and we need to catch it with that
second thought we can't go back to that
we can't revisit it so you have to catch
yourself when those thoughts come in you
have to you have to catch it man I can't
entertain it you can't start thinking
about it man I wonder what she's like in
bed I'm just keeping a real this will go
guys heads right sorry start undressing
off with your with your mind and stuff
so what I do I try to catch that first
start and what helps me if I look at a
girl and it comes into my mind late man
she's bad I catch myself and say you
know what my wife's bad too I got a bad
wife I got a lawyer your wife I got a
faithful wife and I'll just start
reminding myself like what I have with
my wife and I wouldn't want to ruin what
we've built because I can easily I what
you can never say never like we said I
want to go I would I don't want to ruin
what we've built since I was 14 years
old over a one-night stand or whatever a
one-night stand would be fun you have
fun for that night or whatever oh but it
would get old and it's not worth it man
my wife is awesome she's the person that
God put here for me we're meant to be
together and I know that so that's that
that goes a long way man and these are
just some little little tricks and tips
man that worked for me in my mind and my
psyche to try to stay on that on that
track and I'll say this man I like to
give this I like to give this analogy to
it's from the Bible so Paul talks about
spiritual warfare man we got thoughts we
got things that come at us from all
types of angles like you said those
impulses we are human but we got to deal
with them just because we want to swing
on somebody just because we want to
fight somebody don't mean we're supposed
to feed into it we get those thoughts we
deal with them we say okay I'm not gonna
do that I'm gonna be the bigger man I'm
gonna deal with it wrestle with it
whatever so there's a spiritual warfare
that takes place in the in the hearts
and minds of men so we in and it's it's
promoted even in the Bible but when Paul
talks about walking in in impurity and
lust and and and sexual immorality he
says to flee youthful lusts don't fight
it
don't entertain it but youthful lust
when it just comes in like that like I
said that first start he says to flee
flee from it run from it don't even
entertain it don't give it that second
thought don't don't premeditate
something man
because it'll grow like a wildfire in
your heart and many people cannot
contain that yeah cuz would you call it
like I hit them with this girl
like it was just like one nightstand
that's it like you know the one thing I
work with at McDonald's too late that's
crazy like and she loves a good thing
you know thinking if she was at McDonald
say we were to add like a breakdown at
McDowell yeah I mean but so you always
you always got to walk in that empathy
to man like how would you feel if your
girl was out checking checking out guys
if she's walking through town or at
Walmart and she looks at a guy and she's
sizing him up oh I wonder what he's like
in bed so you have to bring that same
integrity into the marriage man say you
know what I don't want my wife out
you're looking at all dudes and
daydreaming and [Â __Â ] so I'm not gonna do
it I'm telling man
it goes like I was like damn I was wrong
okay
your mind will play with you man that
you know you when you thinking with that
other head it's dangerous yes oh so
there you go there's the experience now
it happened mistakes do happen learn
from the mistakes learn not to to talk
talking that getting close to other
women you can't do that you can't be
good close to and your wife you know or
fam you can just be like me but I enjoy
all the women you already know fam I
loved I loved the women hey everybody
everybody's walks a little bit different
man everybody's in a certain particular
situation but uh definitely show that
showed of respect and integrity in
whatever situation you're in and treat
others the way you want to be treated
and that that's just it works man if you
want to make it work there's people who
envy man what what me and my wife have
and and they would they would kill for
what we have and they would want to take
there's guys who want my wife and
there's women who want me so this is
that we have to be on on the offense as
well as well as the defense to
understand that that girls look to me as
a spiritual matter that that girls
to me as a cool rapper as a cool person
but and even you can entertain that and
let that take you places but once you
got right something started popping but
you know they wasn't messing with you
before and I was telling when you're a
rapper Hey look I'll tell you to uh just
something I feel is really important
when you know I know you know I'm not
like in truth like truth in a long-term
lit but I of course I have experience
with relationships and in the end of the
day I think it's all you know and I
learned like we spoke about I learned
from other people's experiences my own
and a lot of it to me is common sense
and logic but I feel that at the root of
any any good healthy functional
relationship and teared thoughts you
know I'd say this all the time online at
communication yo because in the end of
the day you know people who a y'all may
have an unconventional relationship it
may be people even have open
relationships that work or you know why
because they're they communicate what
they want they're straightforward honest
and and they stick to it that's that's
because a lot of people will say yeah
yeah no I'm cool with that I'm quoting
it's all good but they're later the
jealousies keep saying these sort of
things you know I'm saying so as long as
y'all are communicating saying hey look
this is what I want this is what I'm
looking for this is what I'm about this
is who I am be real be honest be genuine
let the other person know you know I
think a huge thing now is you know well
not now always has been is these games
that people want to play you know they
don't want to be the first they don't
want to let the other person think that
they that they're weak and vulnerable
that there will be feeling on this and
they're yarra and it becomes this whole
a game and like you know uh uh me
personally I've never partake in that
game you know I say look it is I'm not
out of any I'm not out of anyone's leave
but I ain't playing I ain't playing
those games you feel what I'm saying I'm
a not out of beat and I may not be out
of your league in the sense of how they
say are I'm out of your league no I'm
not out of your need
I'm just not playing the game at all you
feel me cuz that's that's the main thing
I'm just a straightforward dude
so to me that's always the best because
in the end of the day you know I've met
I've met women and been with women where
I let them know like look this is what
I'm about ain't tryin to have nothing
serious or whatever it is and they may
catch feelings and you know what I feel
for them but in the end of the day I
didn't play no games I there with no
false pretenses I told you where I stand
so you cannot get mad at me for not
wanting the same thing as you you
understand what I'm saying
you can't do that I mean you can't you
wanna be bad you could be in your
feelings you hold it against me you know
I'm saying and that's that that's just
being honest and being real and that's
you know me and any pair be open oh my
gosh do I think I ask you a question
like it you know how you know if like
she's the one you know saying like it's
like it's like extended there and [Â __Â ]
and like but I still want to like you
know like chocolate the woman but I
don't I talk to them but I don't do
anything with them so but I'm still I at
the end of the day like I'm always with
this chick like you know that's what it
is so I don't know everybody's situation
is different my answer would be find
that person that you can't live without
like that's who that because that's my
reality that's where it works for me to
find that person you can't live without
I know guys who I kind of grew into that
they just found this girl they were
digging and they got married and then
it's it just works you know I'm saying
but I say find that person you can't
live without and then and then and then
go to war for that person that's what it
does
you know mom I'm saying my girl that's
my other half
that's a part that she's a part of me
I'm a part of her yeah I'm saying we
finished each other's sentences like we
were meant to be together we're
ordaining and and so I go to war for
that one like I never let anybody mess
with my family my wife or my daughter
I'll go to hell over there you know I'm
saying so fine what you're said yeah
just just to go you say the person you
can't live without and it goes back to
what I said to you to your thoughts
did you know you can't live without to
know you can't live without somebody
what's the logical thing that you must
first do live with them how do you know
you can't yeah to me is the biggest
thing if you not if you're not really
with a person day in and day out
how can you pop like yo I've lived with
people you do not know somebody into you
live with you do not know that there's
it's a whole different story I don't
care how much time y'all spend together
during the day in the end of the day you
know and she know that y'all going home
have your own space your own privacy you
could do whatever you want it's a
completely different dynamic I know my I
got I got I know people I have a homie
was with a with a young lady seven years
got married divorced after one only
differences a little I got married the
only difference yeah I know people
people that's actually why most divorce
hath happens in the first year because
that's the main contributing factor they
wasn't really together before their time
interview that yeah yeah definitely
yes I love that we have for you to step
into this yeah I push this woman away
for like you know like I know we good to
it like just to see like you know if I
you know if I had like no real feelings
for this girl right I pushed her away
and she thought I was paying around
seeing other women there like that no
it's like nothing like that I'm not
playing games
nothing I just want to see you know oh
I'm not gonna lie I want her bag do
bi-weekly oh they put that like you know
like I don't know what it is but maybe
like oh my wheezing probably a
connection sounds like it works man you
got your winner man people people envy
that dude I know people who have
dysfunctional marriages you know I'm
saying and they fight they yell exactly
they yell at each other they degrade
each other they dog each other out I
mean that's everything we've been
talking about just learning how to cope
and how to do life and do it in a way
that it's fun and it benefits everybody
man and that's that's the way I want to
live man I've seen people do it and uh
but we we the one I'm with like I said
we've been here she'd been with me
through thick and thin when I was she
was with me when I was at my lowest you
know I'm saying that she she didn't go
anywhere she my support my backbone yeah
she'd be coming when I'm down she'd be
like oh I'm coming over
I dunno when I'm sad and like I'm like
damn like she's really down yeah if you
could tell she's into you and she's
loyal keeper because that seems like was
like the hardest thing to find people
that like people like they want to they
want to go outside the relationship and
stuff like that but if you can find
someone who's content with you and and
appreciate you man and you can only do
the same thing for them man and man
people who want that tell you hey the
problem is like I'm talking like the
other woman like on a low like a problem
would be if she was doing that you you
you can't call something yourself a
problem that's how you gotta have that
empathy eliminate that just stop doing
this fam if you're really feeling about
this young lady that way you know I'm
saying if you basically it sounds like
you can't really choose do you want that
the one you want to be about that
relationship life or about that player
life so I think you need to make that
your own brother
I I'm
why do you like being a failure like fun
like you know player no player players
play games you just sit in the field
it's not about being a player don't be a
player but if you want to be you know
stable in and just do a guy I'm sorry
fam go ahead but you've got you may have
to find other things that entertain you
you know what you stand to entertain me
robbing people breaking into houses
that's what we did for fun we rob people
and broke in their houses when they left
to go to work
that was fun to me it's still fun we can
still get a kick out of it
but that is my healthiest night and I
had gonna help me it's gonna hurt me so
you got a little you got to learn from
you get other things that entertained
you like podcast I can entertain too and
I you know I could make something happen
I can't make that happen robbing people
out here man you know I was not coming
into this expecting we'd be talking
about relationships I feel like we like
love like it's a what was that one love
life yeah it was that or that newspaper
that like asked oh yeah yeah yeah you
know what I'm talking about whatever
yeah so yeah no matter what you do man
you got it you got a home
you got make that choice bro you know
I'm saying like how old are you trying
I'm 20 like are you tripping you young
bro to me is the way I see I'll be real
with you bro
I'm in the heart will be wrong but if
you gotta kind of think about it if you
still persuade it towards other women
then then I I don't know I don't know if
you ready for the photo relations you
got my head over heels man you got a
nobody you got a lot of you know like
other things like but it's hard like you
know I'm trying to go to school and I'm
working at McDonald's and trying to make
me you know working on ice and see
get on my sleeve all that boat company
you know it's like this is excuse really
but you know I'm just gaming it cuz like
you know it's ammonia and in my
situation you know I live alone and [Â __Â ]
and when you live alone like it's like
it's it's different it's like different
when you live alone like before like I
was doing one like you know of course my
family is it but then you know I well
like you said these are like oh when
you're 18 get kicked out
you know all I boost it right that's
what I like you know like you're not
helping me I'm on my own I'm over here
like I do whatever I can
the roof on top of my you know working
out night yeah I've been on my own since
I was like 16 yeah you don't go back you
know I I don't know like I don't know
where my just like I'm trying to find
like you know what my dream is a well
and kinda you know you know see what I
can do in the future but you know I
don't know right now like you know I'm
working you know trying to go back to
school and [Â __Â ] but I know like I going
to school like you know it's gonna take
time like it's gonna take away money
like for my like you know yeah but one
thing about being hard man hard work
pays off man being consistent doing what
you're supposed to be doing it over a
Tom Eliza to call on us so it'll be over
before you know it and then if you
finish school and you've got something
to show for it so stick with it yeah
yeah you are you are you are very young
bro you know like I'm not you know I'm
not now it's really just it and the only
reason I say that is because well I know
you that's not no that's what I'm saying
and that's why you're young and you've
got a good head on your shoulders man
and you've got a good positive outlook
so I know that if you just keep pushing
forward you know I'm saying and taking
actions and having that positive mind
state you're gonna make things happen
the things are gonna open up
for you you know what I'm saying because
I believe me bro when I was twenty I
wasn't I wasn't I wasn't thinking about
none of these type of [Â __Â ] I was just
running you know I'll just out China you
know in and you know hook up I won't say
what I what I was they get money and be
with a women you know that was all it
was really about so I'm here and I play
you know I really I really I really love
to go back you know yeah I don't know no
I feel you bro but you know look man
just like I said try to really make a
decision and stick to it
that's whatever it is if you gonna be
with her do it and stick to it if not do
it and stick to it and just do it ro
don't overthink it you know like you
live alone and sit and I'm like yeah you
have been having like girls like when I
said well I like I I don't know it gets
all sometimes in like sometimes what you
want to keep like one girl like in your
bed like you know come home and then see
you in there you don't say but looks
like I don't know like probably like I'm
getting lonely like I'm experiencing
like you know like like depression like
who knows what it is like you know yes
and those are those aren't really good
reasons to go into relationships they're
actually it's not good they're actually
I'd say signs that you shouldn't go into
a relationship you know you don't want
to be going into a relationship open
that is gonna save you from something
and you know so you know I mean not my
belief is that in order for it's hard
enough for one person on my own fan to
really to really figure things out in
some and to be happy and to be
functional in life so if if you're not
you're happy
oh what's that oh like it gets old like
you know working out like you know I had
one job and then like Yuri used to it I
don't know you're setting you know you
get tired of it I'm like I'm tired of
his job like honestly like I'm trying to
get another job to like you know working
in a day and it it's pretty hard for
right now actually I believe you but you
know you kind of it
you trying to get ours but you trying to
get it trying to be full time you know
I'll trying to do you know I try to keep
your eyes up and she trying to you know
ya feet of fooling around
that's the thing yeah brother that's a
that's a you know that's a struggle man
like I said really of you will listen
and that's something I can't really
relate to you know so I can't I can
empathize I could completely you know
that's why I say just like we were just
some all truth you know right now I
can't you know I can't I could tell you
you know you're young you got a you got
your whole life ahead of you you yo you
got a good head on your shoulders I
don't know you know from what I've seen
on you and I know it's tough and I
really don't I don't I don't have it but
I don't know you know cuz I don't know
well what I what can I tell you like
we'll go try and get a job here I can't
tell you none of that I don't know
anything you know keep your head up you
know keep keep keep pushing forward and
being positive because I know you are a
positive god I could tell that just
awful off Instagram I know you know I'm
saying I know you not you not out here
being dumb I mean I don't know man we
all can be done at times but you know
what I'm saying like you're not obvious
being ignorant
you know you a smart dude intelligent
you know and I guess I just feel like
man you you know when you're when you're
that age I know like things at any age
though yeah you know it just I guess
with my brain is still in that program
state of mind like Oh 20 you know but
any age like bro any any any day can one
day can change your whole life you know
anything can happen in front of you and
you got your whole life ahead of you bro
it could so many opportunities can
present themselves I'm over here like
you know I hadn't been to school for
like one year and I'm over here like
working at McDonald's I'm already like
in used to it and like I feel like you
know I'm so I'm sucking is like room
we're like you know I don't know what to
do in my life
we're just working like I want to you
know who do something with my life right
see what you know what opportunities
while you are there that far out for me
you know but it's just like I feel like
you know I feel like I have to get
through this like you know this little
oh you even know what it is honestly
yeah what did you want to be when you
were a kid man what did you want to be
when you were a kid like no passionate
for something like I always wanted to
like you know like you like you know
people heal people's minds well you know
like you're like everybody here like you
guys are a healer but you can't hear
everyone you can't you're like everyone
else no no you can be paid you can be
paid to do personal sessions and lead
people to through therapy we were
talking about earlier childhood trauma
and people having things on there and
things they can't get over I do private
sessions with people and people people
pay me I have friends who make a killing
doing private sessions healing people
man
spending time going through their crap
with them a lot of times like diesel
said we have to we have to deal with
that stuff but we don't know how to
approach it we don't know what to do
once we deal with it then what okay we
know that we've been treated this way or
that way people like you know I do
advice well I'm over here like giving
them advice but then like I was like
what about me you know like it's like
you know sometimes like you know you
could people could be a hypocrite like
whatever but like you know I'm voice
like would say there's a lot of wisdom
in this episode man and a lot of it I
think the world we keep repeating us
learn from your mistakes and learn from
the mistakes of others learn what's
working for others and and and and
what's what's not if Jude is doing
something and he's just spinning wheels
and he's not showing any type of
progress I'm not gonna do it I'm not
gonna let me try it I bet I can make it
work nah I'm gonna find out what's
working implemented in my life and like
I said if you want if you want to be a
hero
dude I deal with people every day
who they want to heal people and whether
it's to pray for people or to go in the
spirit realm with people and lead people
on on like meditation journeys to deal
with childhood wounds and regression and
stuff like that I got people making
livings doing that doing that full-time
that you could do it without in the way
it works is whatever you want to do you
created whatever you want dude you can
and and dream big and so we teach people
to go back and find out what they wanted
to do when there was a kid before the
dream got taken away before that before
you got comfortable at McDonald's like
what did you want to be and what do you
want to do and whatever it is be
creative and you could do it you really
can man we're seeing people left and
right man who are doing it and it's it's
it's encouraging and it's contagious and
I love my passion is to see people
thriving and what and do what they were
put here to do not by default I was have
a default truck driver I think I wasn't
gonna be like who you are by you you
have something any like you you hear
like to bring something you know like I
believe in that right yeah but it's like
no yeah they would like mental illness
people like and this is like no dude I
get those minute I get mental illness
people in my inbox daily and sometimes
it's overwhelming
it really is especially late possibly
like deal with it man
I mean we get a lot of those people man
you know but there's helping there's
help and there's hope for those people
to you know people who are dealing with
stuff and I want them I want them like I
want to open their eyes and I'm saying
like you know they have a vision to like
they have something like you know I
don't know I give them like no I'm like
you know we waste right now you know
it's something a little bit inspiration
so like that and I I see that in me like
I'm like what the heck like why do I
talk like this like dude get the vision
I mean it could be as simple as starting
a podcast taking callers and given what
what am i what are we doing right now
we're taking calls giving advice
man you could do this you could totally
do this you go live on YouTube the
technology is there one night a week
started up see if it happens if it's for
you like there's so much opportunity
your first guess broke the end come on
kick started with thousands of views
when diesel gets on that no doubt man oh
that's what it's about bro oh man I
appreciate you calling me I will coming
up on the end of the show man I'm glad
you called in bro hey big love to
respect you guys were like keep making
that music bro you guys and you gotta
find me bro for hey you inspired me fam
all you know since I know you've been
showing mad big big love and support for
a long time going I appreciate to the
fullest we go be in contact we're gonna
chop it up man oh you can always hit me
up anytime on the messages on the
grandma [Â __Â ] I get to hear you guys up i
brother blessed man peace peace it's
always good to connect man and doing
like live shows people are like well you
need that you don't need to you need to
record your shows and then go back and
edit them which we do editing on the
podcasting end but I love being able to
take calls man and be be unreachable and
sometimes nobody calls him but sometimes
just those calls man who just like you
get to talk to your your favorite
artists your favorite rapper and then
you may have a light you may have a
life-changing conversation with your
favorite right and hey my day right now
both sides
I've been due for a minute yeah I mean
you know we've been we've been connected
for a while I've been I've been
interviewing people that I look up to
and like researchers and even artists
there was a band a band that I was
really big into when I first got into
church and stuff it was a Christian
hardcore metal band and he rapped and
told poetry over metal music and I loved
it
this was back in like 2001 and I found
out about these guys and I've been
listening to him for years I interviewed
him on the show the other day and I'm
like stars so I'm talking to
one of my favorite MCS if you want to
call them that but a favorite just
poetically intricate man this guy's a
huge influence on what I'm doing and I'm
talking to him and then I'm talking too
busy bone from bone thugs-n-harmony you
could make it happen dude like he just
do it and whatever just find out what
you want to do and there's so many but
find out what you want to do but then
how to do it then that takes the trial
and error okay this works just don't
work and and stuff and stop why don't
out like you know what you want to do
how you that's a bet you know it's all
it's man I feel like I am so fortunate
that our early in life found my calling
to be a rapper I didn't know that it
would be to be using my talent to do
what I do now but I knew from early age
oh this is what I need to do and from
the moment I started rapping you know
ain't nothing now the validation from
other people but of course back then my
whole Road from the first time I rapped
in front of people nobody ever said nah
kid ravening you he was always yo you
need to be a [Â __Â ] rapper and I guess
I got older okay got more popular you
need you need to you need to be famous
you're gonna be a famous rapper all of
that soda but I think most people don't
find that don't early on and especially
because of the way society is like you
know worse this there's basically this
straight and narrow path go to school
you have these options of what you can
do with your life and they're very
limited yeah and most people don't
really get an opportunity to explore all
these different possibilities and what
they be passionate about and what they
could be good at really good we're in a
good place right now with the internet
allowing us to do it it allows us to do
that just look at these companies that
are starting over up all over the place
like uber and stuff like you crazy
you can you can do what you even if you
want to work for uber you can do what
you love to do have a car and then drive
people around at your own convenience
you
for a couple hours to turn your app on
uber good that uber czar good if you
like it for a couple times with people
on everything that's a good way to
promote your music I'll be bumping my
[Â __Â ] in the car every like haven't seen
he's like oh you lined up man
he's I boom I did I did I did two rods
man I did two rides I made a hundred
bucks uh-huh and did two rods yeah it
was but then they called it a wrap they
want it like they wanted me to take my
car down to get an inspection and I
didn't know if my car could pass the
inspection at the time and so is that
I've seen just briefly things about
Wilbur being like bogus beer is they do
their their drivers dirty man if you
will just talk to the drivers and most
of they love it they work when they want
to work in it if they go to school and
then when they get off the school even
if you're driving from point A to point
B you turn your app on if you're if you
work for them and and you can pick pick
up people in oh yeah the way a lot of
independent artists are a lot of my
friends who are doing a lot of lot of
musicians rappers man they're doing it
and it worked and they inspired me to go
out there and do it I had fun only did
two of them and I would have kept doing
it if if I wouldn't had to do the
inspection I didn't think my car
couldn't pass the inspection at the time
but uh it's for me anyway look man we
don't do we don't did over to 2 hours
and 20 minutes and oh yeah we need to do
it more often man even get get some
other artists on here I know the voice
would love to sit now with us and do
like a three-way thing as well anytime
bro I enjoy it I definitely do what
happened with like talking I could talk
so that's not that's not a problem for
me any time ago we had no city I have a
shortage of things to talk about ever
Zoe this is so much going on yeah what
happened with V city was here oh oh yeah
V City he uh well he was here he was
here for three months he was supposed to
say six months but he had a unexpected
he had he was here I was paying his his
stay and all of that and then he had
some debts and bills that he had to pay
that I was I was covering for him as
well but he had forgotten about one
particular death that he had and it was
something that I couldn't I couldn't
really help him out with so and he had
to return if you excuse me if he didn't
go back it would have been a situation
with yeah you know with the finances and
stuff so you know his trip was cut short
but it was a great time while he was
here we got a lot of music done we you
know we started doing the more YouTube
videos and he was doing an editing and I
was cool but after he left I was just
kind of like and it's just like I mean
you know don't get me wrong I could do
it myself but the dynamic of us too it's
just you know for me I'm like if I don't
have to do something and I'm not really
having a it's not really fun for me I'm
probably not gonna do it you know what
I'm saying like cuz honestly I've tried
to like you know don't get me wrong I'll
still do a sit down and do it just talk
video yeah well like you know to go out
places kind of vlogging and I tried it
by myself
and it just feels more of a chore than
like I said yeah yeah yeah
you know we were at the same spot for a
minute man and we talked about it about
vlogging about doing reaction videos and
stuff like that stuff that a lot of it's
fun it is fun but then you have this fan
base who you're introducing something
totally new to them and most of all like
what is this you know they don't want to
see that side even though that's a legit
side they don't want to see it either
and a deck that opens our whole can of
worms as well but I learned that's not I
started to a poke you by video game
stuff man and they were like what the
hell like they didn't they they didn't
like it but I loved it and I do with my
daughter and we game and stuff me and my
wife came out this is our game room I
got game posters all looking all that we
are video game junky we love
the game in so this is the game I played
a little NBA this this summer house I
was like I've never when I was a kid I
could play video games when I got older
even as a teenager so that had very
short attention for video games I got
older than quickly I'm so competitive
and I'm still coming I worked oh I'm
gonna be real with you I think and and
people always gave me a hard time about
this and I'm not bullshitting I always
used to bang cats up in video games I
used to slay I'm gonna put only sports
all I played a sport man the best most
dominate and and it will get boring to
me and the big thing was they were
always are you just quitting while you
want while you on top because you don't
want anybody to take you out you know
I'm saying like cuz cats would do that
but honestly it just will get boring to
me but even now I sit down and I I try
to play a video game you know it'll be
cool for like a few days a week
give him by myself oh yeah you're older
and you got new you got other things
it's just kind of like I don't you know
like hey I'm time I wanted to check this
one out
just because I actually was probably I
was I got a song called a duty of the
recent project where I'm like um what I
say it Xbox 360 play playstation 4 when
I was just a kid I couldn't wait to
explore all the technology so like I was
like man you know what let me do that
for the kid in me you know I'm saying
like let me let me do that for the kid
that always wanted to see what what you
know if you know if when I was 10 if I
would have had seen what the video games
on that I would have lost my [Â __Â ]
mind I'd have been like yeah and what
about this and then knowing that you
could do it for a living and get paid to
pile in again we would talk because um
my well he's he's uh my first cousins
son he's into video games and he's now
into YouTube it's like years old and you
know I was telling his parents like hey
look obviously I obviously I have things
that I I would prefer
that any child does but this is not my
child
it's not my place to ultimately that kid
is gonna do whatever they're not like
super well-off or anything so I'm like
look if that's what he's into already
yeah that's what was to do encourage it
you know I'm saying like that's what
he's gonna do anyway he's gonna be
playing video games so if he can get on
YouTube and help y'all help y'all out
help himself out make some money from it
yo it's better than it running in the
streets or doing something else so I
don't know you know what I'm saying like
obviously if it was up to me I would
want him to be have his face in a book
you know I'm shaking like get it
knowledge and you know but that's not my
place and I know his parents aren't
gonna aren't gonna lead him down that
path either so ultimately it's like okay
this kid will probably end up just going
to school maybe just getting some kind
of job and you know just whatever yeah
so it's like if the alternative is
playing video games for a living
play the video games young man play the
video game yeah my um my mom and my
grandmother used to argue and fight over
that because my mom was like wanting me
to get off the game and she'd kick us
out the house y'all get outside and go
play so we go play basketball and stuff
but Vince Lee we get in the ruckus man I
like I was tell me I was like breaking
into people's houses and just doing this
mischief man you know I'm saying and
we'd always get into stuff and my
grandmother was like encouraging me with
the gaming systems and want me to stay
outside and it keeps us occupied it
gives us something and so my mom and my
grandmother would would kind of be at
Osley and my grandmother would bomb me
like the new systems and stuff and in
game to take me to rent games and I'd
literally stay in there all day like 12
hours 13 hours playing RPGs and playing
sports games and creating a full roster
of team like everything like I could all
my friends at school on the team and we
play basketball games and football I was
just just create a man and doing that
and because when that took it to another
level as a kid to being able to put
yourself in the game and make your
little dude oh I didn't play basketball
yeah even now what I went with this take
me an hour to to create my person my
wife would be like you're not even gonna
play the game you go see him create your
character for two hours I'll create it
for two hours and play the game for ten
minutes minutes game is way like me with
this basketball game I they had the face
scan all of that up yo are you for real
right now no but you know I aim for
video games cuz I even I had a long
conversation with sis I played that I
got into it it's like they hooked that
whole career mode yeah and I just
started having like I started
philosophizing about not on real like
display ah yeah it's not even conspiracy
just like the game whatever the career
mode that the light it just that's how
my mind works now like I can't you know
I can't watch a movie or I can still
enjoy it yeah well like it's nothing is
for me anymore just what it is
yeah everything is gonna make think
about something deeper they're like me
question something or you know it goes
for me it comes it goes
cuz I could be watching a movie like I'm
really into thrillers I'm into some
horror stuff I love thrillers man I look
I love movies that will that make you
deal with all your emotions they're
gonna laugh you're gonna cry you're
gonna be scared like if you can deal
with a movie that makes you cry and
makes you scared and makes you dude the
movie get out they get out movie God do
me it doesn't that's that movie is an
experience but you'll like it too
because so much deep revelation in it
that when you watch it and that's the
movie you got to watch twice honestly
like you you're not gonna be able to
catch stuff until you find out the
ending and then you go back and you're
like wow it changes the movie as you're
watching it so but there's so much so
much in it and you think you're watching
one movie and then there's a twist in
like oh I'm watching a different movie
this movies like this now I thought it
was about slavery and it got real deep
and awkward and
in the place as I would there like
kidnapping black people's to be slaves
and that's really what I do this addy
movie yeah god I want to give it away I
don't want to give it away and that
movie deals with all your emotions
because it deals with a thriller and
scary stuff horror stuff that that genre
but then they they tied in just enough
comedy to give you a bit of relief as
you're on the edge of yourself and then
you have like oh my god Wow and you
laugh yeah weird how they did it it's a
phenomenal movie no have you uh have you
seen I'm watching right now a show
actually since put me on to it and I'm
like I'm enthralled and I just you know
I usually I'll just put something on it
like before I go to bed if I'm not read
actually I haven't been reading recently
but usually I'll read before bed Ian's
first I oftentimes obviously I like to
just cuz my day is is consumed with the
work I do which is always like about
knowledge and so often times I'd like to
just put some comedy on yeah is you know
unlike with that and not think about
anything because I've been doing it all
day yeah right cuz all my work revolves
around that so anyway just recently
though I started to show the oh wait oh
wait you heard of it I've heard of it
you haven't haven't
yo it's crazy bro it's like sci-fi but
it did you like it cuz it's on that you
know what happens when we die different
realms and you know it's yo you should
check it out it's like one of the better
shows that I've seen in a long time
check it out we're watching Ozark right
now me and my wife Ozark we heard one on
Netflix and uh very much along the lines
of Breaking Bad I was a huge Breaking
Bad fan and I very much along those
lines but it's kind of like the the
whole thriller I love the thrillers I
love their keeps you on the edge of your
seat I can't stay in action movies
I'm just not it doesn't do it for me but
if you get me if you have action in a
thriller I'm cool with that
right
Shenmue fighting yeah never I never was
integers just ask Alex and like a lot
killer people like vegetarians
yeah it has to at least have a good
story yard yeah you know I'm saying like
a really good cuz that's to me I don't
I could watch any kind of movie if
there's a good storyline like to me for
example I haven't seen the new one
because they don't I haven't gone on I I
don't go to we don't have a theater in
town I live in the nearest theaters like
40 minutes away styling to be the father
to go to the theater but the Planet of
the Apes series yeah so the last one the
Rise of the Planet of the ages well
that's probably my favorite one of my
favorite movies if not my favorite movie
talk about you tell my symbolism and
deep revelation embedded in it that
movies got a lot of so many levels and
especially you know obviously the whole
aspect of just revolution of rising yeah
holding and then also that it's animals
me being an animal there's also many
layers to it bro
but just aside from all of that even if
I wasn't any of that and I didn't look
at it from you know like this I'm a
movie like how could you not
I've always cheered for the underdog for
the you know for the uprising for the
you know it's pretty impossible to be
done and I mean that movie if that
doesn't epitomize all of that when he
when he [Â __Â ] says no like yo
everybody like whoa what the [Â __Â ] that's
a crazy day man oh man I don't think I
watched a movie where I got you know
when they went when they like to me
that's it wasn't goosebumps I was crying
like when they were when they made it
you know I'm saying like that to me was
like yo like that [Â __Â ] straight up that
means what that looks weird cuz you
don't know who the root for like I don't
know if I should be for the Monkees or
for the humans or for those from bridge
the gap like I don't know
who's that I have to be for the Apes
because they you know I'll be I'll
always be for any group of oppressed
people yeah I don't give but everyone
everyone's oppressed on a level the
Pratt the oppressor is oppressed to
oppress you have to be mentally
oppressed in some way shape or form
yeah so everyone everyone can be
empathized with and sympathize with but
there are also levels to that anyone who
is being directly you know blatantly
oppressed and well in any type of way
I'm rooting for them I don't care you
know I'm saying I'm rooting for that
uprising and in that situation that aids
especially like you know in that movie
of course that was pretty you know that
was pretty obvious especially now now in
these in these new ones it's a little
different in that while I don't give it
away but I know I know how the storyline
goes but in that one that in the in the
first one The Rise of the Planet of the
Apes because they had an advanced yet it
wasn't they weren't militarized they
were just Apes who just got smart and
we're in captivity and we're like [Â __Â ]
this [Â __Â ] all we want to do is go to the
forest and have y'all leave us the [Â __Â ]
alone yeah like how can you not rule for
the Apes in that situation if somebody
hears somebody saying in the chat room
Kris garner he says but the Apes
eventually repress the humans in the
roles kind of [Â __Â ] yeah I know that you
don't give away the whole I haven't seen
the new one I'm sorry right now I know
even from the old from the old I know
that oh of course but I didn't you can't
watch that movie knowing that that's not
fair you know I'm saying you can't throw
that you gotta put that out of your mind
yeah and then it's that situation root
for the the clear the clear group to
root for which of them that's why that
that series is phenomenal I mean it
touches on so many moral and gotta do I
wanted I got this collection of older
movies in it was that one it was uh The
Day the Earth Stood Still I believe it's
the name of it when the alien it comes
down and stuff I got these older movies
and I wanted my daughter to watch some
of them and we were watching old
of the twilight zone and this is when
she was a little man I was just show her
a clap and even now like when she's
getting ready for school I'll put on
Fred Sanford or like gummy bears this I
just off the blue man just showing her
some of the songs she may never hear
about you know and so I show we were
watching Planet of the Apes and this was
several years ago she was little but
original yeah the original we're so on
and so there's this the opening scene of
where like one of the UH one of the
ships crash on on that planet
and somebody else goes there or
something I don't know the exact plot
but they get there and they're going
through the ship the crashed ship and
there's uh there's a dead woman who was
on the ship a woman named Stewart and
she's when they find her and she's all
deep you know decomposed and looks like
a zombie she was dead right and um and
my daughter laughed at it when she seems
like that part's funny she laughs I want
to show mama Rwanda she was little all
right you want me to rewind and see that
part again sorry Wanda it's you seen it
and she's like she freaked out I had a
panic attack
she watched it the first time when she
thought it was funny
she made me rewind it and she had a
panic attack Stewart and now I I'll
mention Stewart and she's scared to
death of Stewart you know his dead
corpse in the in the beginning of Planet
of the Apes that just freaks her out now
somebody somebody else said in the chat
room canto which is he's an admin he
says that uh he watched the movie get
out last night that's also we mention it
he watched it last night said he watched
the new Stephen King's it that's a great
fun I can't wait oh my that's for my
child right yeah you took my daughter to
do that that's good
oh man I don't see I don't I have such a
memory of the of the of the television
series that aired that like that to me
was like oh my god it was the most
horrifying thing as a child so they
really
I have to do a good job they did it
justice because they stayed true to the
original but I'm glad that it wasn't
just a remake they did add some extra
stuff that you like of some things that
they didn't like that they changed that
work that way it was good man did they
did it really good so something will
happen you know okay that's exactly what
happened and then they take it to the
next level like whoa they took this this
really quick I didn't expect you yeah
I'm over here I'm over here just I just
gotta wait for you know a good bootleg
copy to come out for me to watch the
movies that I watched cuz range oh I
can't Abbi yeah if there was a theater
here in town I would definitely go but
is the all that urgent and honestly to
be truthful nothing like watching a
watching a movie in the comfort of my
own bed at the crib just laid out you
know I'm almost regretted it because
there was people talking the whole time
and I'm going in and there's kids
running around and people talking I was
like man I just and it was getting bad
but uh yeah the last movie I went to see
in the theater I went with sis and we
went to go see uh what was that movie
Elysium with on that day that's a great
movie yeah that was a while ago and I
remember being like yo and it wasn't
even crowded but like the seats are you
know I'm a big dude the seats are small
uncomfortable you know I'm saying you
gotta go to the bathroom you got a
walkout got people back here with some
little kid making noise yeah man I
rather just wait at the crib until the
good coffee comes out and just be
comfortable and enjoy it
yeah especially like you got a surround
surround sound oh you know I'm got it
set up yeah that's how I do it like like
it's funny my wife gets on to me when we
watch a movie I cranked it up yeah yeah
so it's like boom boom boom with
services like we gotta sell out like we
did theater the theater experience is
sound exactly and some of that some of
it when I want to take my surround sound
further I've got a bar I've got one of
the bar
but I want to come with the surround
sound on on the sides and stuff too but
I mean move watch movies are an
experienced man you know I'm saying and
that's alright and that's something that
I'm trying to explore again with
creating our music and our videos and
stuff is kind of table to the next level
so you guys who are watching I'm gonna
be doing a lot more script writing and
doing a lot more actually a lot more
alien stuff of of peering into like
pretty much the horror genre well I'm
working on this video for Watchmen right
now and I've blown myself away like I'm
excited that we took the time to write a
script and got this kid to play this
this kid who gets abducted and we
actually have like we actually have CGI
UFOs that look really good
off of a low-budget what we're doing and
I'm excited to get the video and it's
gonna be out of Hollywood in hopefully
two weeks or so but um it's looking
really good I just need it like I spent
some money yesterday and um bought a an
alien costume like a like a big head in
the arms and hands and stuff and I'm
just gonna be recreating some of those
scenes from the 80s from the alien
movies and just kind of recreating them
and putting my own touch on them to put
in our videos and stuff man
we talked a lot about space and aliens
and stuff anyway and I never can I can't
write my own treatments to my own music
for some reason I can't cuz my mind goes
about what I'm talking about okay I'm
talking about ascension I kept all my
reputation okay I'm talking about money
like that's how my mind works I have to
but if you come with your song I can
listen to your song and we've a script
into your into your song and I never
could do that so we're gonna we're gonna
try it again and this one is though ah
that sounds amazing bra really want to
see that look forward to it and with you
around so you could actually like you
know say like do some and film some
because it's hot like like this would be
difficult man like I mean yeah let's you
know maybe we could work on something
where I'm not even necessarily in the
video and you know you just come up with
some kind of
and said that you could then obviously
you know I would yeah it's just gonna be
funded yeah you get actors if needed and
just come up with like a scenario we
could probably yeah man even watch me
but I definitely love those kind of
videos is just like you know at this
point I'm limited to the resources I
have here you know so it's usually my
videos are just the basic standard rap
video yeah we got to take it further man
we really is videos who like make you
cry and make you think you know I'm
saying the song they're like we got this
the music down lock but there's like the
videos we got it like I've done so many
just performance videos or whatever and
uh just got I'm just ready to take it
because I think that one of the first
videos I did was about we did it we did
a song about night terrors
and sleep paralysis waking up in the
middle of the night being pinned to your
bed by like we did I actually just
recently not too long ago I had an
episode of sleep paralysis that was like
the fart the first we did that song and
that was easy to write a video cuz I'm
just I'm just writing about what we're
talking about and that's all my waking
up in the middle of night and I had a
kid play me in that video and um he was
getting pinned down in his sleep and it
didn't shot to me and as a adult having
those experiences and he was playing
video games and stuff and really I was
able to write it but it was easy because
we talked about everything that happened
being me the voice and a guy named big
angel and it was a really cool video for
when we first started it but uh I'm
gonna be doing more than that because
when we put that out it caught people it
made a big impact quick and then kind of
died down but the people have seen that
who've experienced sleep paralysis
they're like oh wow you're talking have
you seen the movie what's that [Â __Â ]
called or something now there's a when V
City was here we watched it because
basically he he he's like not like like
you and I we only watched his horrible
like in comedies but he's a horror
fanatic yeah like we were just we were
just and I love Horrors - so Mia
hemorrhages you know I mean I love all
but uh yeah BPI being single and
everything I know you love [Â __Â ]
so we uh we uh what was the movie called
though we watched the damn bro
what were they doing like a shadow
people I don't know if that's the name
of the movie oh no it's about sleep
paralysis and basically all of our life
how would sleep paralysis actually it's
like when that happens is the shadow
people who are coming fight take your
soul there was an alien solar no I can't
man I don't remember that what it
exactly was but but it was it was it was
decent and the crazy [Â __Â ] is that was
most recently when I had my sleep
paralysis it was after he had left and
after we watched that movie and bro I
remember actually while I was cuz now
I'm aware of it so this is only I've
only had it maybe two or three times in
my life and this time when I had it at
first like I kind of panic but then I
was like no I know what this is you know
I'm saying and I was able to just show
myself out but was still not chill but
like wasn't [Â __Â ] but I remember the
thought even coming into my head like
all what if the shadow people help me
but I was like now that was just a movie
and but it was funny though I hit me
city of the next day like yo fam I think
the shadow people got me I hear but I
had it happen to me recently it's like
that when you're into those in those
places of like you're sleeping you're
you're sleeping but your dream is that
you're laying in your bed trying to
sleep I even as a kid like I've had
those crazy nightmares and those I fall
asleep but my dream is me still laying
in the bed and something creeps up on
the foot of the bed and walks up on my
chest and sitting there sitting on my
chest and I can't move like those are
the most terrifying dreams
man and you feel it but I have had that
they encountered of being awakened like
even it also kid my was like four years
old when I had that encounter and felt
these things pinning me down and I felt
them there laying on me and I'd seen
them like these shadows and it's not
that I couldn't speak
it's that I didn't want to I wanted to
act like I was asleep like I was scared
to death
going on you know that happened to me as
a kid and that's kind of where uh piqued
my interest in the occult or in the
horror movies or in the God and just
spirituality you want to know like
what's going on because there's other
stuff happening when we're in the middle
of the night we're sleeping like stuff's
real man and getting in that yeah you
know like I didn't me like this when I
had sleep paralysis it was like just
basically like the standard kind that
you hear by like you know I I woke up
you just could move and I couldn't move
and I tried to scream you know I'm
saying like but for whatever reason I
think it's just instinctual cuz but both
times I had I can remember and I and I
think I might have even cuz I could hear
but I couldn't hear myself scream but I
heard my dog bark ya know if he barked
cuz I screamed or you know and it was
just it's such a weird indescribable
feeling though it was being frozen or
being conscious being able to hear and
see but not really you know I'm saying
like I don't know it just as mad it's
weird because I was freaked out because
I didn't even know what it was bro yeah
I've never even heard of sleep paralysis
I just woke up and was [Â __Â ] frozen and
I remember like like that this time I
think that when I woke up I just
screamed instinctually the first time I
was like [Â __Â ] like screaming for help
like you know I'm saying like stop like
what you know I mean and that [Â __Â ] was
crazy bro like people have that and it's
a it's a you know they have scientific
terms forward and it's when you wake up
but your body's still in like rim rim
sleep and it hasn't fully woken up yet
and you can't you don't have like the
motor functions or whatever so and they
say that can all be
that's all cool we could deal with that
and it seems like what you've
experienced and your mind just went to
the the dark places because you had some
kind of reference to kind of reference
that this could be what's happening but
the weird thing is when people are
having the encounters and there's beings
in their room or there's something on
the chest or they have these other names
for they call it the old hag syndrome
they'll have deals not where they wake
up and they pin to the bed there's an
old lady scream a witch screaming in
their face or a little shadow person
sitting on their feet like okay what is
that part so why are people those
encounters where they wake up and
there's a little man standing next to
their bed and they can't move like
that's a legit thing like people are
having the only thing I could possibly
think is that it's some form of
hallucination yeah who knows what the
brain does yesterday oh yeah but you
know bro my mind is open I don't
discount anything I thought it was some
witch in my face yelling were in them
while I was oh my yeah weird stuff
happen like that when I was a kid and I
was sick like when you're laying in bed
with the flu and you have all that crazy
stuff going on when you were throwing
your body's hot like I've had weird been
taking the weird memories and stuff as a
kid that I don't remember and then get
older and I'm taken back to the same
places with this with these fevers and
stuff and it's just some weird stories
on in the psyche man like you said is it
some type of ancient like memories that
we're unlocking and it did happen to us
kind of explains the fear of snakes our
ancestors were afraid of snakes and
things like so now we have this
instinctual we see a snake we get scared
type deal right so maybe even in in the
psyche when when you wake up with the
sleep paralysis you know maybe they were
always on the prowl and always were you
know being invaded by other armies and
other tribes and other nations that they
would catch them in their sleep like
that was a tactic that people would do
is to go in and catch them in their
sleep but who knows if it's just passed
down like like regressed memories or
what you know yeah yeah there's so much
of that that we don't even know you know
so much
hey that genetic you know things that
are passed though on thousands of
thousands of years genetically from our
ancestors that have been may not be
natural to us or inherent to us but
because the genetic they were it was
done so long that by at this point it is
part of our of our you know what I'm
saying like one thing that I would say
and you know even from a scientific
standpoint is like the the craving for
meat for example you know that sure now
it's very real but I know it's um we
didn't always know as as humans to hunt
I want to eat meat yeah that was
reacquired
therefore the taste for it was also
acquired and now yes it's very real you
know what I'm saying like but that's
just one example of how you know I mean
as men I'd say this all the time like
you know it it's hard for it's it's
tough being a man in the sense of like
like we were talking with the caller T
and thoughts earlier and just we it is
our primordial you know I'm saying urge
it is its soul in us it's so I mean this
whole monogamy relationship marriage
thing is so new to us there's a speak
yeah for the vast vast vast majority of
our existence our primary role as men
was to plant our seed in as many women
fertile ground if you will as we
possibly could and that urge is still so
deeply embedded in us yeah how you know
how can we not still want to now cause
we have a different intellect now yeah
so we can try to fight those urges and
successfully do so many of them yeah but
it's not surprise it's not a surprise
that most don't most can and that's okay
yeah you know I may be going on a bit
off topic here but no you know it's just
because again we've been so programmed
to go against our natural urges that
this is what you need to do
everybody should be monogamous everyone
should be in a marriage and that's
ridiculous
show me one thing that everyone should
do that's right for everyone yeah no no
I don't yeah problem
that's what does well fear just because
we feel it and it's that primal urge and
it's putting its primordial it's been
here since the beginning we've been
doing it as a species right even with
the whole thing with it with the anger
and like feeling like we should attack
people or we feel threatened so we need
to kill them like we have to like legit
have to fight against those urges and
stuff right you know we feel like our
lives are in danger so we need to kill
them before they kill us like we have to
we have to evolve past that and say okay
this we don't have to kill these people
we can start way from them we can warn
them we can do whatever we can report
them to the police whatever it is like
you don't have to fight and put them
fists out or whatever and you um soon
make war with the people and so just
because a little that you know now of
course that I know I have to have to
keep myself in check I really do like
people threaten me or or make a pass at
my wife I literally want to put a
[Â __Â ] in the grave you know what
I'm saying like I really do oh yeah you
know you know there's a lot of those I
mean it going again back to back to the
meat even if it's at this point such a
deep urge you know we can say wait is
that the right thing to do you know we
could make these decisions and we should
especially when it's gonna hurt other
people I think with relationships I do
genuinely think that we don't have to if
if you if you if you want to be single
if you want to be not in a relationship
there is nothing wrong with that in
society and no one else should make you
feel like there is you know what I'm
saying like if that's the life you want
to live it yeah it's better because the
truth is most people can't if they could
be monogamous and faithful and then it
would be a lot different the
relationships wouldn't be as as
statistically failures as they are and
it's a marriage and all of that it's
just people aren't real about people
don't recognize they don't know
themselves enough
say wait this is informed you know what
I mean like so you know I think there's
definitely a lot I mean for women to you
know I was actually watching a woman on
YouTube talked about this just the other
day and she was saying how you know
women would be a lot of women had this
attraction to quote-unquote alpha males
and will put up with them treat him like
[Â __Â ] they say they want a nice guy but
they still go after the jerk why is that
it's kind of the same thing like the
alpha male the they they've been you
know in the vast majority of our
existence women's role was to you know
find that alpha male who is going to
only do one thing provided and protect
yeah matter how the emotional she knows
the weight treated me most alia mentally
all that mattered was he's gonna protect
you and he's gonna feed you now we call
it and your kids nice guys finish last
right and you know [Â __Â ] gets to get
gets the girl and the guy who's being a
gentleman
they you know they want the bad boy and
I got friends who deal with this and
it's sad it really is but I've got I've
got friends man who was a perfect
gentleman who would did type of dudes
who would take the coat down and lay it
in a puddle of water so the woman can
walk away maybe even you know like I'll
cancel but they did they'll overlook
that guy and go for the [Â __Â ] who's in
prison and and write it up and he's just
dirty and stuff but he's you know
there's a lot of stuff to it man but it
kind of the nice guys finish yes it's
true look it's deep there's on both
sides men we want to plant our seed
women they want that on the moat on the
deepest genetic level and the thing is
it's almost hard to blame these people
because they're so unaware of it they're
so unaware they don't even know why they
feel that way yeah we need the patch
from keep me here and always over and
over exactly and no straight I'll tell
you I don't know why I don't know why
it's just who I am it's what I you know
is that and it comes into what we're
talking about earlier as far as like the
you know the trauma of the past of the
daddy figure what kind of daddy that you
have or was dog or was you in a
relationship as a teenager where you
were in a certain relationship with a
guy who fit this persona now you're
gonna stay away from all guys like that
or in many cases I know this opens up a
whole can of worms but all guys are dogs
and they're not gonna be faithful so I
don't want guys anymore that type of
deal and there and that's that's totally
applicable you know I'm saying it's not
every case so for people who choose that
lifestyle but it's definitely there man
you know I'm saying or all guys are dogs
I don't want it guys I'm attracted to
women who they're gonna be there for me
emotionally they care about me guys I
want to have sex and key and move on to
the next one like they've you guys like
that that's not the truth though all
guys aren't like that all guys are
[Â __Â ] there's no truth that can fit
they can generalize for all of anything
and that's where we fall in the right
for every of it and whatever real a lot
of guys are yeah a lot of them but again
it goes back to our genetics and guys
just not understanding that about
themselves because I I think first you
need to understand why that is before
you can even control it before you can
you know you're not I'm saying like you
need to get to the root of wait why am I
out here being this unfaithful as you
know why am i doing this and the only
thing really say okay I see it's because
it's basically my genetics its net it
it's what's in embedded in my DNA
yeah so now let me try to overcome that
you know what I'm saying because the
easiest way out in the end that you know
is I don't know it's just how I am
yeah you know I'm saying well that's
good to kind of know how you are too
because in the spiritual community we
have the term know thyself know thyself
and you shall be known I look at that as
something very applicable to our lives
as far as knowing yourself knowing
what makes you tick okay we can look at
the anger issues the fighting issues or
whatever like okay what type of people
set you off okay well you might not need
to be around those type of people or you
may not need to go to this type of crowd
or you may not need like you know me me
being married I know where I don't need
to go as a married man I don't need to
go hang around a bunch of women or form
tight relationships of caring and and
pouring into women and them doing it to
me because then you form feelings and
emotions right know thyself I have a lot
of people who can't have alcohol at all
because when they drink alcohol it opens
up the door to like you know what I want
some pills man right and then they move
from pills into smoking crack it's
smoking meth know thyself if that if
that you have to know if that keeps
happening and over and over don't drink
at all some people can't drink it's
gonna trigger them and they're gonna go
off the deep end I know some people who
do that I can have a couple drinks I can
watch a movie with my wife and drink
wine or have a mixed drink or whatever
and be fine and I love doing that and
makes you more talkative and just open
up but there's people who you can come
over you offer them that drink and
they're gonna drive home drunk and they
don't they don't know themselves I gotta
know what change them and what they far
they can go
I talked to a buddy of mine who always
makes stupid decisions when he mixes
alcohol and and pills together and he
always does it and I look dude you got
to know your line you can't cross that
line don't cross it you can tiptoe
beside it you can dance on that line you
could do spins on that line but don't
cross the line
why did every time you go to a party
you're getting in fights
why do every time you buy a brand new
car you wreck it like the same week like
what come on dude you gotta learn you
got to know yourself man what can you do
if you're gonna drink and get shit-faced
do it at home we ain't got a drive know
where you're gonna man this is so many
people making stupid decisions that
could be avoided you know knowledge is
serebro is power yeah when you got out
of yourself you can control yourself
that's how I see it you know oh dude
we've just
yes yeah I'm over here hungry bro I
gotta go dude I'm at I'm at I'm looking
at the clock and it's I'm hungry but
then it's gonna be time to eat dinner in
a couple hours cuz we stayed too long I
didn't do a good breakfast this I'm just
trying to have to gonna hang out I think
I'm gonna eat but yeah I'm over here
like a good hour past my dinner time so
I'm like yo I'm yeah so hey man just
give everybody so because there's people
listening who have no idea warm and oh
what'd you do and and um saying how they
can find you yeah Dean's a lot of
Maddock is the name disl automatic the
right you know aut oma yes I mean you
know rap to this if you know conscious
political hip-hop social spiritual all
that accurate stuff um I mean y'all go
check me out youtube search it Google
search check me out on Instagram these a
lot of medic plant-based bigness I mean
really just you know you could just
search it honestly that's what I tell
people I don't you can find all of my
stuff you just do a google search these
a lot of medic or go to get big on them
calm diesel automatic calm but you know
check out the music that's really what
it's all about for me you know I I do I
guess some talking as well well I do a
lot of talking but you know what I'm
saying like I'll do some YouTube videos
in there but it's the music so yeah just
don't check out my music yeah check him
out guys he's online like I said just
google his name that's what like
whatever platform you're on if you like
Spotify if you like iTunes just type his
name in this is the most recent project
actually gems that's all that's on all
the digital platforms and it's also
available for free download I get big
when I'm calm so anybody want to check
that out yeah so
speaking of that we have a collab on
that album that we've done together and
we have people asking in the chat room
they want to know if we're gonna work on
any more music together if we're gonna
do any more song absolutely absolutely
absolutely I mean you know all's well
well anymore in the future yeah because
they always they're always good songs
like I don't once once you have that bar
man you know I can't go go go below this
bar and you work with people who who can
step up to that bar whoa
I know we gotta go but there was a the
place of like collabing with a lot of
local artists and friends even friends
who did music and we'd collab all the
time and we'd feature them on songs but
when I set that bar for myself like we
would get verses from friends who
couldn't make it past that bar and I had
to get to a place where I became the bad
guy or I became arrogant it's like well
I got to rerecord your verse man yeah
it's gonna add four syllables there you
got a dude you're not even on topic I
was come on we can't do this anymore
we're gonna step the game up you we're
writing a song you got to be on topic
why are you writing about this stuff and
this songs nothing to do with that I had
I had friends who sent me verses and
record it and I'm like we're not using
it man
but that's about creating new music and
taking your art seriously I'm moving to
the next level with it you know did you
ever have to do that you know I don't
think I've ever asked anybody off of the
track yeah I definitely you know even
what you don't would like the people
that I'm tight would like you know I
mean I think they all kind of look to me
anyways for you know with the lyricism
and stuff they know I've been doing this
so long it's just you know second nature
to me so you know and a lot of them
haven't been doing it as long
yeah a lot of women smoked for me for
some type of you know guidance and
within it so you know I've definitely
given people advise pointers like oh
maybe you should kind of flip this up
here and there and you know what I'm
saying yeah well just be like you know
I'm not really feeling that Corey so
whatever it may be so definitely that
you know what I mean but um
I actually it's funny I recently I said
I'm glad with this dude
TK out of the Bronx he's a vegan we're
doing a vegan track and I sent him that
I sent him a track you know I laid it
down and he was like you know when he
heard it he went nuts and then the next
day he hits me up he's like man you know
what I realized something of the day I'm
like what's up fam you know I thought he
was gonna I thought he was gonna you
know come with some like eat like he's
like man when cats get on tracks for you
they really need to step their game
I was like yo I appreciate that as a
compliment ya know I I hope I like that
I mean you know I would want hoping
that's how you get better
oh yeah better oh look in this [Â __Â ] we
do you know it's all love like honestly
I don't look at anybody as my competitor
what but when we on a track yeah
help level of competitiveness yeah okay
you know are they trying to get out
shine you know what I mean like to be
competitive but then also look at it as
the whole okay
I can't cuz you don't want to copy the
Raman scheme maybe sometimes the tracks
good to like okay we're all coming the
same way but I like to bring something
to the table to an experience so like
even even the song agape that we did
together my little bit laid-back I have
seen the distant travelers in nights and
then lay back like to this door shot
whatever and then this one comes in at
the end everyone I went out we got this
kills it at the end so it's an it's a
whole experience to it's like even
though we're not like I have to add more
syllables because I can get in that mind
state too but like that whole project is
an experience and you and everyone will
bring something beautiful to the table
and but you have to be good to do that
you can't come with a wack verse and
think that you brought something
beautiful to the table you know so there
is a debtor's that you know I'm saying
competitiveness to it to wanna and
that's why I paid people early on for
features yeah when I was at when I was a
Christian rapper guy
rapper and was getting into the
spiritual community in dealing with
lco be the lost children of Babylon who
had it on lock those years they had it
on lock and they would charge whether
there was a hundred bucks for a feature
or 200 300 250 whatever beast 13:33 all
these guys whatever I would get them I
would pay to get them on the song and
okay I have to prove myself cuz you know
the people know me as a corny Christian
white Christian rapper from the south
and I have a slang so I have to say okay
let me let me try to go deep with the
knowledge let me try to stay on the
rhyming schemes let me bring something
let me slave over these these lyrics
bring something beautiful to the table
and it worked it worked that it was a
competition because it's cool to do that
so that now their fans guess what
who was itching to hear new lcib music
beast 33 fans or itching to hear new
beast 1333 songs we pay them the money
get them to feature all as well and try
try your best to be the best one on the
track and now guess what Beast 1333 fans
are what now true seeker fans these
automatic fans another Lucy Coe fans and
that's part of it it's part of the love
and part of the commodity yeah you know
I mean like boy I you know I've uh I've
paid well the only put up que Reno oh
yeah he does the only cat I pay for a
feature but everybody every I've always
anybody the way I see it is like this
I'll always approach like that's the
thing bro oh the voice that's why I got
you know I'll jump I [Â __Â ] with him
heavy cuz he didn't even write hey you
know was well I didn't know him like
that yes that he came it paid for the
feet and since then now we found I'll do
every song it don't matter like let's go
oh money no you know I'm saying like and
that's cuz bro one of the and I've had
to tell so many people like so I'm sure
you got in a tool can come in it with a
hands out
then by what the [Â __Â ] do you take me for
a fan like are you that to me just says
you don't even value what I do yeah
if you expected me to hit you with a
feature for free without any kind of I
didn't even I'm not even it don't even
have to be money at least come to me
like look man I got zombies fanbase yeah
I really value what you do I don't got
money now I might not I'm not even
really I don't have a lot of following
to cross-promote but you know what
maybe I'll make it up to you like this I
could do this like a something fam at
least coming me humbly like I've had
somebody wanna meet like that like yo
for a feature and I was like well you
know I charged out up and they was like
ah you know what I don't have funny but
you know I understand thanks I really
appreciate it yada I was like you know
what I'm gonna do that [Â __Â ] on the love
for ya because into me so correct oh
yeah
so I've had people flip they [Â __Â ] I'll
never forget this one dude he comes at
me it was after the first mixed a job yo
what's up man your ships fire how much
from how much ya I'm not not how much
can I get you know what's up with her
feet I'm like yeah bro but you know I
you know if you could toss me a little
song that'd be cool yeah flip this [Â __Â ]
well who the [Â __Â ] you think you are you
should be I'm sure I dropped 20 albums
he sends me his Wikipedia page that he
made was when he albums out he's like I
should be charging you for a feature I'm
like fam
you came too if I came and asked exactly
that's not a word it's harsh before
secondly showing me your 20 albums that
nobody has ever heard of Mick is not
helping your call is making you look
even more of a focus as do ya and then
he started to get into all this like and
plus he sent me to track he'd know he
asked me for the feature sent me the
track before I could even respond and
bro I heard the track no I
I forgot how well but I know I responded
so I forgot the exact order but then I
heard the track after I
told him our charge and he already blue
light then I heard the track and this
guy was on there like talking about
bugging in the streets and [Â __Â ] and like
yeah just completely not on my vibe you
know I could see one thing if you talk
about [Â __Â ] in the streets and you
know I talk about my history in the
streets and related ooh
now and certain things but this cab was
like talking like he's still on the
black with his Glock and that I'm like
damn why would you even come at me like
that like you listens to my music yes
I've had so many a man people are weird
bro people are people pay teachers gave
me eventually gave me the confidence to
get good and and gave them the
confidence to charge for features
somebody comes to me like you're saying
and and I don't know who you are if we
do if we did all the features that we
get in boxed on we never we be busy it's
everybody and then if you're gonna
approach me or diesel or anybody for a
feature just make sure your quality is
good before you do that as people record
separate cell phone and oh yeah man I
got a I got a I got a iPhone with these
earbuds man it's a recording app that's
pretty dope okay I see your potential
I'm good at hearing like seeing a vision
work on this do that try to record like
this watch some of my tutorials when I
go live you know and and we you know I
can I can see the vision I see where you
going man but you got to work on your
delivery even if it's just him talking
I've heard I've had guys hit beats in
there just hey my name is so-and-so I'm
rapping on the beat you can't but
they're saying good stuff like okay okay
I could see this I could see this being
you know you're trying to you want to be
a good rapper
this this off-key stuff it could still
work you know I'm saying the thing
quality is a big part of it if you're
gonna approach somebody - because I get
did I get in boxes all the time hey
check me out I'm so I'd love to get a
verse from you and they let me hear
stuff that's just quality's bad so you
know quality and prepare be prepared
like to me this is how I'll give I'll
tell the listeners anybody who's ever
trying to get a feature from any more
more established I suppose if you will
artists or whatever yeah just have a
problem I've always opposed it is you
ready
have the track done I have a track done
ready your choruses your verse with just
a 16-bar not 20 not 24 because ain't
right rappers ain't right no 16 bars the
standards have that ready have it done
approach the person don't just send them
the track either first approach them ask
them and be ready
don't mainly be ready and do not expect
anything from anybody nobody owes you
should get you gotta go thing nobody
owns you [Â __Â ] I didn't come in this in
this doing that I didn't expect anything
from anyone I didn't expect anyone to
give me anything for free to help me out
no and they did but that's because
everyone that I ever approached for help
or for anything I was fully ready to
either pay or to provide them something
of equal value there's some type of
service from me or something because
that is how the [Â __Â ] world works no
actually it doesn't
the world is not fair this what I'm
saying is fair this is fair and that's
how it should be you know I'm saying in
all things yep oh yeah I got a go family
- let's cut it I brother appreciate you
coming all hanging out man will do it
again very soon we did three hours in
almost 20 minutes man I'm doing this
full time we got days ahead of us let's
do it I look forward to it and big up to
all your listeners man I hate you too
brother
I love Shalom peace brother diesel
automatic get big on them this is what
we do man this is family man we've been
working together for a couple years and
if you guys haven't heard our tracks
together we do have a couple songs
together
like I said we have agape is one that we
have and we also have his song bus back
that's on his album I don't I think
that's it we're definitely gonna be
working on some more very soon so
definitely go check out those tracks
really good stuff and check out his work
in general man he's a really good dude
and I really like the direction that
he's going him and just the whole crew
everybody who he is affiliated with
everybody who he promotes and stuff it's
all family it's all love and he's got
some he also has some stuff coming out
with the voice as well the voice got
some new tracks he's about to drop and
Diesel's on some of that stuff so that's
gonna be good too so here within the
very near future you will be able to
hear some new tracks from us and uh I
really dig his his work ethic and his
creativity and what he brings to the
table you know we always say man if I
can find somebody as motivated as me if
I had another version of me out there
who's getting it somebody who's hungry
to succeed somebody who's good at what
they're doing good at making good music
like I can accomplish a lot of stuff
well diesel automatic is is the same
thing he's another he's another person
who's hungry and he's good at what he
does you could be hungry and and not be
good or you could be good and not be
hungry anymore
and many mainstream rappers and bands
and things fall into that to where
they've already succeeded and they don't
really have that drive to get out there
and create something brand new and fresh
they've already done it they've got
those albums under their belt but to see
somebody who is still hungry and still
in love with the genre and in love with
the art these automatic is there and I
love to create with those people who do
it out of love versus out of spider or
out of the fact that you sent me money
love those guys man so you can check
that out if you haven't heard the songs
you want to download them it's always a
perfect time for me to promote my
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man we also got new merch as well you
can check all that stuff out on the
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I'm excited about the merch game too
stepping it up
just did this really cool manly P Hall
inspired shirt and it's really dope so
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