Divination With Letters | Letting Spirit Speak | Jim Girouard
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today's show I'm excited about we're
gonna get into some some things that
I've been studying a little bit and you
guys know that we talked about
divination a little bit we talked about
using tarot cards we talked about tea
leaf readings and casting of lots which
it's called in the Bible and stuff and
so I mentioned on my Facebook wall a
couple weeks ago that I had used tarot
cards during a prayer session for
somebody and it was awesome it was
powerful like every card that I drew was
for the person in the situation that
they was going through and it led me on
how to pray for that person and to what
spirits work on that person very intense
and it was my first time using these
cards and it's a sensory it says it's a
Christian terror attack because there's
a deck that's
themed after the Bible is called the
terror of the Most High and so it was
really awesome using it for the first
time but when I posted about that I got
a lot of people curious and a lot of
people like unfriending me and saying
okay now you've done it you've gone a
little bit too far we always knew you
were kind of leftist and you're kind of
out there but now this is a little bit
too far you're using tarot cards to pray
for people like where does this match up
biblically and so I've been doing a
study on it I'm gonna bring that study
out soon but all throughout the Old
Testament and even in New Testament the
disciples used forms of divination and
so the casting of lots and so the
scripture says that every light that is
drawn is of the Lord and they would use
that as God says go left or go right
they would use divination they were the
the luck of the draw and they would
believe that this was God speaking to
them and so all ancient cultures did
this and including the Hebrews mention
of in the Bible so I got a teaching
coming out very soon where I'm gonna go
into a lot of detail on how you can
actually track this stuff in the Bible
in a Bible doesn't demonize that at all
very interesting so today's guest
contacted me after seeing the episode
that I did with James Gilliland the most
recent one and I guess he's he's a
someone who follows James's work he
really enjoyed the episode and he has
developed his own form of divination if
I'm correct so we're gonna talk about
that there's a lot of play on words here
where you're able to do automatic
writing or or take the spelling of
someone's name and it's very funny how
synchronicity works because I have a
friend who just got into something very
similar where she's able to get a lot of
information just by writing your name
down and understanding the letter so I'm
interested to see how this show was
gonna coincide with the information that
my friend Christi Lee just got with the
names spelling and getting the
divination to that way so welcome my
guests
Jim Gerard how you doing my brother hey
Jerry thanks for having me on it's
really an honor welcome to the show man
you you reached out to me a couple weeks
ago sent me an email of some artwork
that you did the artwork was phenomenal
yeah I want to tell you about a reading
that I did for someone else but your
name came through the reading alright
let's go yeah let's jump right into it
I'm curious about this okay yeah what I
do is I throw lettered dice I get 26 of
them I throw them five times I get a
hundred and thirty letters and then I
decode the letters into words and
sentences so I have been doing some
readings for orally forth she's got some
videos on YouTube and she's got a
Facebook page I had been doing some
readings for her and in this particular
reading her name came up and then I
named Tara came up ka ra so I wrote her
and I said who's Cara and then she wrote
back and she said it's Clara with an L
so I went back to the letters and when I
found Cara again it was an L next to the
K so Clara was spelt que el ara which is
you know it's acceptable because the
pronunciation is the same so and she
told me that
Clara's last name was Blackwood so I
went through the letters once again and
I found Blackwood okay so now I had only
fourth color Blackwood and then I found
the name rosemary Stella k-- who is a
martial artist out in Toronto and so I
had this reading I just done you know I
was just finished decoding it and then I
heard from you got an invitation to be
on the radio program and then I went
through it again and I found Derek bras
correct out of a hundred in how many
characters thirty
eight I couldn't tell you letters okay
what do you think that means well what
it means is I mean this happens all the
time like a day before I find out about
somebody the essence of their energetic
signature registers into the reading
without my knowing it and then the next
day I found out what the person is then
I look back from the reading and finally
a name spelled out what if a letter
so it's essentially like synchronicity
but it's almost like confirmation that
you're supposed to maybe walk forward
with this person reach out to this
person these type of ways is that is
that how you're actually applying it to
your life
yeah it's that and it's also a
telepathic signature entering before I
find out who the person actually is
something like that in a lot of other
things that we've seen with like I don't
know if anybody's familiar with like
9/11 in the mutton in the the towers on
all the dollar bills right the five ten
twenty fifty and a hundred they all show
that you know the towers under attack
it's all written on the money and stuff
like that comes to light after the fact
like there's no way you know before that
that you can actually get the
information and maybe stop it from
happening or if it was done by
coincidence or just through
synchronicity and not actually planned
like somebody artistically put it in
there which I think if we're talking
about the higher power or energy I think
that's a creative energy that could have
put it in there as well to line up with
that so what you're talking about is
something that that you you can only get
the messages after the fact like once
you heard my name and then you found it
or does it does it work
the opposite where you get the messages
and then look it up or is a kind of
vice-versa with with the art that you're
doing it kind of works in a
multi-dimensional sort of way like you
know this thing about people's names
entering into the letters before I meet
them that happens another thing that
happens is when I decode the letters I
get predictions of the future so it kind
of goes both ways so how I mean how are
you able to look to the future for some
of the stuff I say if you get a name or
word are you just like maybe looking up
the words and seeing their origins with
what the words mean if it's a person
that you're supposed to reach out to or
I'm saying how does that work
I usually don't focus too much on the
future unless I have a specific question
about the future like ad I've done
readings before where I get a message
from my future self like from the Year
2065 what happens a lot of times in the
readings is there could be a prediction
of the future in the reading and I might
not be absolutely certain that it's a
prediction until like several days later
it happens and then I remember that it
was written out in the reading and
that's how I realized so how is this
like how was this something that you
actually started applying to your life
like how did you get involved with it if
there's something that that you just
tried did you see different people who
are doing you know and similar readings
or something like that or was it just
something out the blue code yeah that's
funny somebody just messaged me before
we went live my opinion intake on the
Bible code and then here you go bringing
it up and I haven't heard that term in
years yeah exactly
I'm not surprised you know about the
Bible Code because I kind of I know your
story you know how you yeah
kind of in a dark place and then you
went to Christianity and became
transformed and you know here you are
today so you know I was wondering if I
could just tell you the whole story
about how I invented the method yeah
totally
okay so there were some videos on
YouTube where these researchers were
trying to prove that the Bible code was
a hoax
so what they did was they took Moby Dick
and they rien will be dick into a
computer program and they said you know
we're gonna scan through the letters of
Moby Dick's and we're gonna ask
questions we're going to get predictions
and all this other stuff but you know
sure enough they got the answers and
they get predictions and so their
conclusion was that the Bible code was a
hoax because they did it with Moby Dick
but my take on what they did was that if
you had thousands of letters that you
could access you know all you have to do
is just get the letters so my next
question was how do I get the letters so
I went to a CVS store I found five
regular dice and I took them home I
worked out a number of colored you know
five dice equals 30 numbers so I had to
add ABCD to the 26 letters of the
alphabet to get 30 and I would throw the
five dice like 18 to 20 times and get
roughly you know 80 to 100 letters and
then decode the letters and that's how I
shot it out and just started decoding
the the messages from that right you
know it's kind of a long process because
I had to figure out a letter for each
number of the days and then I found out
about boggled ice I went to a flea
market and they said do you have
scrabble I figured I'd do it with the
Scrabble tiles yeah and he pulled out a
box of boggle and he said I don't have
Scrabble I get boggle I said what's that
and they looked at the blocker that was
base it had letters on them so you know
I felt like I was in seventh heaven
I mean here's the dice would let is
already on them and so I went with
boggle dice and then years later I found
out about Campbell's alphabet dice which
are much smaller less expensive and what
I'm doing now is the people who want to
learn this method they they buy the dice
they do the guys goes at home they send
me the letters I Biko the lettuce and I
send them the reading I've seen that too
because you actually have it on your own
on your Facebook you've got some
pictures like I guess when you get these
these are letters you write everything
down so you got a tablet with this
letters all over it and then you just
start decoding after that right right so
you know you can look at the letters and
and you can try decoding yourself most
people have a hard time of it because
we're not really educated in the United
States to really be thinkers so you know
when it comes to things like that
most people don't gravitate towards you
know spending a lot of time trying to
figure out putting words together and
things like that but some people have a
knack for it and I've taught the method
to dozens of people that's awesome so do
you do consultations and stuff they take
people under your wing to kind of teach
them how to do it as well yeah it has to
be done through Skype or zoom or some
some phone video chat because if it's
just email back and forth it kind of
tells me that person I'm dealing with
doesn't want to talk to me personally
and it just kind of makes me feel like
like a pet psychic you know yeah I think
it just using me to get readings but
once we talk on skype it's it's really
much better because I can answer their
questions and like right now this is a
girl out in Colorado and she's got the
dice so you know if she invites some of
her friends over if they want to get
readings
it can do the readings and then I can
talk to them on skype and and that's
that's kind of like how the system works
yeah I'm kind of the same way when
people try to have conversations through
text message I just I would just rather
have the you know I'm saying the phone
conversation in or on skype as well
versus corresponding long messages via
text or something you know I'm the same
way yeah I mean you know you're not
gonna send a text message to your wife
right I mean she's in the other room
you're gonna go talk to her yeah yeah
that's true I mean you know I'm you know
people are getting to the point now you
know married couples and you know
they're sending text message to each
other and they're sitting right next to
each other
mm-hmm yeah it's great
it's pretty basic so there's no
technology thing and a lot of people are
scared about it man where we're headed
with this technology and I used to fight
against it man even though I would use
it I would I would fight against it
because I understood that it was
mimicking spirituality it was mimicking
the stuff that we're already able to do
with our brains and we're already
connected and then here social media
connecting us when we're already
connected spiritually we can feel when
each other is going through a hard time
when we're dealing with with stress and
under the pressure like you can feel
that when you're around people you know
I'm saying it as far as whether you're
empathic or whatever but and there's
social social media is connecting you so
you know everything about each other in
that way but it kind of it kind of I
guess I guess we lose connection with
with the spirit and how we're connected
that way because nobody I don't know
just like people I think people care a
lot less now and they feel like as far
as being social like you you you you get
your social interaction through social
media versus go and have a drink with
someone or going out to dinner or or or
having someone over to your house and
you keep up tabs with people on online
without even having to contact them you
know everything they've been doing
all week but they have no idea they
haven't heard from you and Aegis you
know it's very weird yeah you're right
that's exactly it you know I mean my my
feeling right now is that you know the
glue that holds us together that at bond
of trust that I mean the human race has
had that since beginning a time we've
kind of lost that and I think we have to
try and bring that back somehow yeah I
think we I think we can use technology
to do that I think we have to use
technology we look at the good that is
doing it's it's allowing us to do a
video chat and broadcast live over the
web and then people to able to come and
actually download this episode on their
smartphone and and years later people
will be able to listen to this
conversation and get inspiration from it
and knowledge and wisdom and and maybe
build up their intrigue to want to kind
of do some of the things that you're
bringing to the table as well so like
there is the you know I'm saying the
good aspects of it as well but we just
can't we can't we can't lose our
humanity in the information age and in
the technological age which you know the
whole thing with kali yuga they say that
man would use technology to fight
against god and whether it's literal or
spiritually we definitely see it
happening spiritually you know this
whole thing that are using technology to
to kind of move us away from our godhood
or our gut intuition of being empathic
and moving in miracles and psychic
abilities and things like that all that
stuff is like being turned turned off or
whatever it's still there but it's it's
dormant and people don't know how to
access it because you know the whole
we're just consumed with television
technology all of this stuff yeah and
the scale you're saying I've given it a
lot of thought actually you know what
you're talking about as far as you know
people you know the commit the healing
condition that's happening right now but
I kind of got a little conclusion about
that too and I really
think that is is something inside of us
like some some form of goodness or like
a light or something that is inside of
us that penetrates through all of these
sort of layers of dysfunction that we
have on the outside and that eventually
you know somehow we're able to get that
light out into the open and penetrate
those layers of dysfunction I agree I
agree I think we see that happening a
lot so people are coming into like the
newness of Technology and like I said
using it for for good versus for evil
cuz I mean it's just simply a tool like
we talked about even with like the
god-given abilities that were born with
people can use those tools for you know
I'm saying negative purposes and you can
you can channel energy you can chant
channel entities and people are using
that the channel demons or right but
then other people are using it to check
to channel a freedom of expression or
that they're channeling the holy spirit
they're they're praying to God when
other people are praying to demons and
stuff so all of this stuff is
essentially tools and it's up to the
person on how they want to use it the
intention of the person with everything
with divination with technology people
can use technology for bad or people out
there stalking children you know using
Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and
all that stuff like it's it's all up to
individual yeah you know I really like
your story a lot because you know you
kind of went into the pitch there for a
while and a really dark spot and then
you kind of woke up and you know
Christianity came along in your life
became changed and you know you got your
life back on track that uh you know the
thing I liked about it the most I think
is the the open-mindedness and this sort
of this spectrum of this knowledge thing
you have about all these various things
yeah I think they all coexist I don't
think that anybody owns them I don't
think that the Mayans owned Kali Yuga I
don't think that Christians owned
speaking in tongues I think that there's
they're mentioned in every room
legend in every holy book and they're
just you know these different things
that we have within us spirituality
nobody owns that and it doesn't matter
the terms that you you put on them it's
just whatever is comfortable for you to
use but you have to move past that it
doesn't matter if we're talking about
divination that scares people especially
church people and like the funny thing
is there's a lot of christians who are
listening to this program like they vibe
with it because they know my background
they know that i come from like a
biblical perspective to teach it but
when you hear the word divination like
that's scary it's like the word occult
from a christian perspective we have
these these words that we stay far away
from and one of them is divination
astrology these type of things because
they're taught a certain way in the
church but they're not taught this way
in the bible and so when i bring that to
the table there's a lot of people who
feel the same way and it's it's also
what's happening right now there's just
like an awakening people come in out of
religion but they still have their faith
and that's okay like you don't have to
forsake your faith to come out of
religion which means to bind in to hold
back you could be set free and found
freedom and release to be to be sent out
in into the world instead of confining
yourself within a box and in your belief
system and your parameters and making
sure they match up with everybody else
and there's beauty in that man there
really is yeah there's a saying in the
tibetan religion that's called a
heightened reality and the way that they
describe it is like after you die your
consciousness goes into a place that's
kind of like the point of no return
where you know you're looking at reality
as it really is but you can't go back
because you've lost your physical body
but you can reach that state of
awareness while you're alive in a human
body yeah yeah um you know like when you
go when you go to a funeral let's say
you know a relative is just past the
way and you see all these people sitting
there and you know they're not joking
around they're not having a party and
now they got this real sort of lonely
look on their face
that's the heightened reality they're
actually a you know in a form of
enlightenment in the sense that they
have now realized that you know the
relative is gone and they can't change
it and they can't bring the relative
back yeah it's just it's just it's a
scary place or it can be a scary place
put it that way especially like because
you get you can reach those states
through meditation you can reach those
states through you know I'm saying
Kundalini Yoga psychedelics as well I've
been to that place and it was funny
because like coming out of that place
and even you know I'm saying trying to
refer back to the Bible the Apostle Paul
talks about leaving his body or he says
it was it was so real he don't know if
he left his body or if he took his body
with them but he said he was caught up
raptured up into the third heaven and
he's seen things that are not even
permissible to speak about there's no
way he could describe it you know and
just trying it trying to describe the
things that he's seen in that realm he
would sound like a madman trying to you
know even even I'm looking at some of
the pictures behind you the shapes and
the geometry and the colors and stuff
and we want to it's so beautiful and the
colors speak it's just you go to a place
where everything's different you know
there there is no carbon matter there's
no physical material but yet it's still
alive and beaming with life but they
don't look like people or they don't
look looks like to smoke in colors it's
it's insane so to try to come back and
and and explain it the Apostle Paul said
look I I would I would be a miss to try
to explain what I would I've seen like
I've seen things that only the Angels
get to get you know get to speak about
yeah that's right the thing that really
scares them is the unknown yeah
and you know that's what the word occult
means it means hidden yeah and you know
the ones that have the occult hidden
knowledge you know people are starting
to find out the other one too running
the show you know the other ones they
have the knowledge and they're running
the show and they have the power and the
money and they're uh manipulating
weather and minds and and they're doing
all these thing that's because they have
the occult knowledge and they're
programmed society to be terrified of
anything that's all cult or hidden or
divination or Tarot or whatever you want
to call it you know most people are
terrified of that because it's the
unknown yeah it's the unknown but
there's like an empowerment to it as
well it's like they don't want you to
know I guess the people who are over
religion for the most part over the
government or schooling or whatever they
want you to be reliant upon them versus
knowing that hey you can tap into God by
yourself you have that god-given right
to tap in to the supreme power and
connect you don't need me you you can go
you know I'm saying before god yourself
and and that was it the whole thing with
the Catholic Church and the Reformation
and stuff is like you need a mediator
between God and man and you don't need
that anymore it's for us and so to
understand that there's tools to tap
into God to tap into the spirit realm
with entities and vibrations and
feelings and all of these things which
are god-given right you didn't do do
anything I mean I think a lot of people
remember these feelings when they were
was was a child like they had these
experiences when they were children and
so it's just like a reawakening it's a
it's a revival it's it's it's nothing
new it's something that's very old the
ancients knew it and so it's a revival
of the things that that that we already
have it's nothing new you don't I don't
think we're developing new gifts I think
all of this stuff is within us because
we're fearfully and wonderfully made as
the Bible says and I truly believe that
and it gets deeper and deeper so that
part of awakening is just awakening to
who we are already we don't need nothing
outside of us it's already within I I
really think that you you found the real
essence of you know Christ and God and
the real meaning of the you know the
scripture is what those words really
mean because you know if you didn't
understand what it really means it
wouldn't have changed your life it all
means you know it all essentially means
love it's all it means everything and
it's all and Jesus even said that he
said that all of it he said all the law
all the prophets all of this stuff we
can get really deep in in history or
allegory or whatever he said all of that
hangs upon love like if you're not
walking in love then you're not
fulfilling any of it but simply loving
your neighbor and loving your Creator
then if you can do these two you're
fulfilling everything all of it else
don't mean anything as long as you're
walking in love and we see that somebody
had me on a show I song it to her
brother earlier about this as well
somebody had me on their show a couple
years ago and it was it was like a New
Age show and she knew my past and stuff
and I think she was setting me up to to
kind of make this person look bad but
she said that one of her Baptist friends
sent her a message and said that Jesus
was the only way and you need Jesus to
get to God and to get to heaven and
things like that and Jesus was the only
way so she asked me my opinion on that I
don't know if she wanted me to kind of
mock it or laugh or whatever but she
said she said okay okay truce ego what
would you say this part this Baptist
person tells me that Jesus is the only
way what would you say and I don't know
what kind of answer she was looking for
but I said I would say they're right
Jesus is the only way because Jesus
represents love Jesus's love made
manifest love is the only way that his
name is in Jesus so let's get that
straight it's not like we're calling
upon the essence of this this man when
we're calling upon the name it says
whosoever shall call upon the name of
the Lord shall be said the name is the
character the character is love yeah a
provider yeah I know what I'm saying and
so that's
what it's about although all of the
doctrines and what separates me and
makes me different that's for you that's
just for you that that doesn't unify
anybody that's just for you to kind of
have a one-up over somebody what you
learned what God has privilege towards
you but this is free the Bible says
freely you receive freely give that's
what it's about it is about love man
yeah I I became a born-again Christian
in 1970 I had an amazing night vision
just a couple of weeks after that
happened but over the years I I really
ran into like a lot of Christians that
were finger pointers and they were very
judgmental and it was just very
one-dimensional and mere thinking so I I
kind of gravitated away from
Christianity and and I wound up you know
reading a lot of the Krishna books and I
got really interested in that because I
was already you know leaning towards
being vegetarian and they were
vegetarian they thought well that's
really cool because they're living the
philosophy that they're teaching so now
I wound up really getting into Krishna
consciousness in a lot of it cope but
you wouldn't know that unless you unless
you studied it right we got I guess what
somebody who's gonna be on a show in a
couple days he's gonna be talking about
universal salvation
pretty much how Christ died for
everybody and so there is no one up and
he posted something on this on his page
where he said that you don't recognize
how many people own the same car that
you own until you buy it you go out and
you buy this car and you want this car
then you start seeing that car
everywhere well those cars have been
everywhere since the beginning those
cars have already been out there but
your consciousness has changed in the
things that you're conscious of and
you're able to see it more and until you
go through different things in your life
until you're privileged I guess with
information and knowledge whether you
start reading other books or dealing
with people who believe something
differently than you you say you know
what
we're not that much different after all
even though this person is someone who
who reads the bhagavad-gita this person
does read manly pee hall or a cult
material but this person is closer to
God then many of the people of my own
sect you know what I'm saying and so
that's that's one thing that that opened
me up to realizing that look God is not
a respecter of persons as the scripture
says you know and you find out that it's
true it's just we don't we don't know
how we interpret it from what we know
like we read the teachings of Jesus or
whoever it doesn't it have to be Jesus
but we interpret it off of what we know
and until you do the research and show
yourself approved like your your realm
of understanding is only gonna be so so
big until you've lived and you know you
so you know what now I know what he's
talking about this stuff that we can
would that you know we've read 10-15
years ago but we didn't we finally
understand it now we've been reading
this stuff our whole life you know I
didn't make any sense until we had that
knowledge and experience to apply it to
that's right yeah you know I grew up
Catholic and then later I became
Christian and then I became you know
interested in Krishna consciousness I I
really get into that in a big way
you know like over the years I read a
lot of Krishna books so you know once I
get on the Internet I really started you
know watching a lot of videos to get
opinions about what people were thinking
and there's a lot of I think mental
platform kind of things and a lot of
opinions and not everybody knows exactly
what's going on out there but the thing
about the Krishna books is I only have
some kind of question or a doubt about
what they're talking about on the
Internet
I just connect to the Krishna books and
I reread them or I rethink about what I
learn you know from those books and
that's where I get my reference point is
to you know what I'm going to ground
myself in in some kind of couple
and it's not that much different I
remember when I first started reading
some of the teachers from the bottom are
Gita and so there was a thing we would
like do and it's a it's a big ministry
there's a ministry out there Christian
ministry called our daily bread and it's
basically little devotionals that you've
read to start your day and their little
Christian devotional if they give you a
passage to read and it breaks it down
and gives you a story and then how you
apply it to your life type deal so I
would read those Christian devotionals
and then I would get some of the Krishna
devotionals and I'd read them and it was
like the same thing and they were
teaching the same thing so it was so
beautiful to see what I already believed
what I already been studying put in
different words like it's the same
spirit the same essence behind it they
were just worded differently
I can understand it I don't get offended
I don't claim to be right so therefore I
could I could see it you know it was it
was so beautiful but I found out like
you can take the same thing that the
Bible teaches you just take the same
thing that Jesus taught like the same
words but just rearrange them a little
bit and teach it in the Christians want
nothing to do with it if it isn't put
said just like it's written in the
scripture it could be the essence the
spirit behind it they don't care it's
demonic to them if it's not written the
same way that's not truth to them but
truth if it's true that's universal it
applies to everyone and everything the
positive and the negative for it for it
to be legit yeah
like the positive and the negative has
to coexist you know if I'm talking to
someone who's a Christian and if the
person's heart is in the right place you
know in the back online I'm thinking oh
he said he's a Hari Krishna devotee I'm
talking to is thinking oh he he's you
know he's talking to Hari Krishna but
he's thinking God you know this guy is a
Christian until you tell him and didn't
they like ah then they you know messes
everything up you know yeah but you know
the ocean is devotion ya know yeah it's
it's
yep it's and that that's what it's about
I mean you know in this scripture say
that God is not a respecter of person
and the scripture says in the book of
Acts he said that it's a it says God
will will deal with all men as long as
they'll repent as long as they'll turn
from their sins their turn from the
things that are killing them and uh
English there's instances upon instances
even like Acts chapter 10 dealing with
them Cornelius this was a this was a a
Gentile man but by nature he was doing
the stuff that's written of in the law
and God said look I'm a deal with this
guy i'ma use this guy and show these
Jewish stuck-up proud Hebrew guys that
I'll deal with anybody who will separate
themselves and that's in and that's to
this day and he had to show those guys
in the book of Acts and in the Bible and
it goes for us cut it in and then it
tells you at the end of that story call
no man unclean call no man on clay I
mean that it doesn't matter race or
creed or what you believe
it's about your fruit judge a person by
their fruit what are they doing what
what is their belief system producing
that's what it's about and churches and
stuff that I come from they date to
judge you by your doctrine they don't
judge you by your fruit and jesus said
judge by the fruit and ever since I
started doing that like that's been a
good way to judge a person's character
is its judge the fruit and the actions
and the company they keep and see and
see what comes from that and and you
can't fake it
and Jesus said that a an apple he's not
gonna give you an orange I just hang
around that person long enough and
you'll see if what they believe has any
validation by their fruit and that goes
if you're Christian or Muslim a Jew
Hindu that goes for everybody across the
board yeah you know about 20 years or so
ago I I really developed a strong liking
towards people that were kind of like
you know doing the left-hand path you
know into like a darkness thing and you
know into you know Satanism and
luciferianism and demonology and magic
Shaymin as you know I've developed a
huge interest and all of these things
and started studying you know everything
to get my hands on but I really liked
these people because they weren't finger
pointers and they weren't like going
along announcing that they were
Satanists or Luciferian or into
witchcraft whatever and they just seen
the keep to themselves
and you know you'd never know that
they're into that unless they told you
yeah yeah so yeah I really kind of
reached out you know in the past couple
of years especially to try and reach out
to the ones that are into that kind of
lifestyle because the kind of divination
that I have it's very good in the sense
that it's a supplement to what they were
already doing yeah it is they don't they
don't have to stop what they're doing or
change what they're doing jump and they
can use this divination system like
before they make a decision to do
something like magic or sorcery or
whatever they can do a reading and get
some insights on what to do or what not
to do yep that's that's the thing with
it like all of this stuff is just simply
tools the divination is a tool like if
you're using divination to contact
demons and try to put hexes and spells
like that's possible that's possible as
well but you're doing it for the for the
you don't saying the bad reasons or to
cause harm on somebody that stuff's
gonna come back to you it's going to but
don't those same resources the same
tools if you use them for good goods
gonna come to you and goods gonna come
from it it doesn't matter what it is it
goes for everything across the board
it's the intention it's the whole Father
forgive them for they know not what they
do
there's a great that's a grace there
that's what grace is but it's for those
who know what they're doing and they're
deceiving people and they're causing
harm on purpose that's where it gets
dangerous and that's where the judgments
and all of these dealing with
other type of entities come into play
when you're doing it intentionally to
deal or cause harm on someone people
donate with oily fault how do you smelly
oily foot I'm not she does she does
videos and she kind of shows the way
that she does Eve occasions she's really
good at kind of explaining how she does
it and she's very personal and I really
like the way she approaches it because
I'm still kind of like a novice I don't
I don't do these locations myself I just
don't have it in me but I'm interested
in these things because I like knowledge
you know I'm like one of these knowledge
junkies you know I just I want to learn
about everything right I just have to
know about everything that there is you
know and then if somebody comes along
that's like really really in
intelligence I go crazy because uh it's
like you know yeah smarter than me and I
can't follow what they're saying it
drives me nuts
yeah yeah I'm the same way I'm the same
way and I think there's a lot of people
who you know who are the same way and
that's what like people wants people
like to listen to conversations where
people are talking about experiences
whether it's experiences with with ETS
or something that like physically
manifested we're not worried about your
doctrine too much anymore and what you
believe in and what you can improve and
stuff like that as far as like the
written texts or whatever we're like we
want to see something we want we want to
see that like that that what you believe
has substance to it and uh and people
have experiences people have dealt with
with entities and aliens and UFOs and
all this stuff so you know we want it we
want to kind of get into that stuff and
people love to hear stories because it
kind of validates what they believe you
know I people I mean we're not we're not
we're not we're not forcing anybody to
listen to this conversation but it's
gonna get a lot it's gonna get a lot of
listens a lot of views is people are
resonating with the people that people
are hungry
searching and is something that we're
talking about that is resonating on a
universal level with everybody with
Christians Jews Hindus Muslims all the
same
it's an eclectic bunch it's a bunch of
different people in this Universal aisle
we're talking about the tools it always
goes back to that but I want you to talk
a little bit about your artwork because
that's the first thing you sent me you
sent me this awesome picture that you
you you guess you drew and in colored as
well and it was it was awesome about
ascension and contacting ETS and dealing
with that talk a little bit about your
artwork - okay written on the wall of a
pyramid in Egypt is a prophecy of
perdition saying that the end of time
the Pleiadians will return to earth are
you okay with this idea at the end of
time I'm okay with any idea the matter
yeah yeah yeah that's that's cool
because I think you know in general most
people know what you're talking about
when you talk about end times or you
know like in 2012 the end of the Mayan
calendar happen in December 2012 and
then what happened was we went into a
new cycle of you know time sort of
reverted and started going in the other
direction
so so anyway written on the walls of the
pyramid in Egypt is this prophecy it
says at the end of time that the star
gods will return to earth which is right
now we're at the point now where you
know the public knows they're you know
they've been holding free energy
technology and all kinds of you know a
secret space program stuff and there's a
lot of things they're not telling us and
that you know ETS have been here on
earth for thousands of years and they
sort of crossbred with us and you know
all this other stuff is all kind of
coming out as part of the you know like
in the Bible it's called
book of Revelation sometimes it's
referred to as the unveiling attention
you know the [Â __Â ] loops yeah you know
[Â __Â ] apocalypse and this actual arm
covering as well apocalypse so it's a
kind of reveal this to unveil her right
you know I think the main thing here is
that revelation really means waking up
and becoming self-aware yeah I think so
too
you know if you're not waking up and if
you're not becoming self-aware you know
I I think a lot of people are sort of if
you're looking externally and you're
looking at all these things that are
going on in the world and there's sort
of you know creating a few of themselves
by looking at external things but that's
not happening at all those external
things is not who you are
yep it's funny to when you when you when
you when you read it or read the Book of
Revelations it's all it's all symbolic
about like you're saying things that are
happening within you I mean the whole
Bible is that essentially it's just it's
this allegory of your own spiritual
journey your own spiritual process that
that we all go through from Genesis to
Revelation revelation in a way that it
talks about Jesus coming back to rule
and reign in the temple well before
Jesus left us What did he say he said
that you are the temple and so Christ
coming back to sit on the throne the
Sloan is your heart Christ coming back
is Christ in your the Holy Spirit that
come to live within you and sit upon the
throne of your heart and that Jesus
essentially is out walking amongst the
people when you go out and you're
walking in Christ consciousness when
you're being a manifestation of Jesus
and then it talks about like the
prophets of the Old Testament look
forward was always looking forward to
this this new covenant that would come
and in Jesus was the fulfillment and it
said the mystery of the gospel is Christ
in us
the hope of glory that you are the light
of the world you're the hope out there
for a dying world who have no idea what
which way is up or down but you have the
illumination of Christ to go out into
the darkness into illuminate the world
Christ in you that's him it's as far as
my my doctrine and my theology Christ
has already come back and he lives
within me and each and every person who
confesses him in and that's a spiritual
encounter it's not just theology like
that's a spiritual encounter and it's
tangible it changes the world around us
it's rest a real deal okay yeah yeah
that's exactly right the other thing I
think is happening now is I think for
the first time maybe in hundreds of
thousands of years that the polarity
that when you know the duality that we
exist in is collapsing and
disintegrating and you know maybe maybe
that's why they're putting all these
labels on it like you know the event
Ascension and shift
I mean after time I don't know what
you're talking about
they don't have well they don't know
what they don't you know yeah yeah you
know if you're trying to to get a
perspective on what's happening and who
they are and where they are and you know
there's a place on Costa Rica called
Libya and what they're doing is you know
you go there for weeks and you take
ayahuasca and they give you massages and
get to meet people and have fun and you
have the experience and what happens is
you find yourself yeah as a result had
taken with this medicine and I I think a
lot of people should go there
and just you know start from somewhere
like you know to do places embarrassed
we a wine yeah yeah find out who you are
for us before you go around talking
about all these concepts oh you don't
even know what you're talking about it's
all just it's all mental platform yeah I
mean after a while I don't even know if
these people are talking about when they
talking about attention yeah in order to
[Â __Â ] what is respected and to me like my
mind goes back to the scriptures every
time man I'm sorry but that's just how
my mind works this talks about yet that
you have to die in order to truly live
and you have to die to the ego you got
to have the ego death and the ayahuasca
the psilocybin mushrooms the near-death
experiences like all of that stuff is
part of it once you die you give up
yourself
and you understand what's real it's not
about fashion it's not about how much
money I got it's not about this and that
it's not about who dies with the most
toys wins it's a it's it's about love
it's about loving God and loving people
and in helping people out and and in you
know I'm saying making your brother and
sisters journey just a little bit easier
man those who are having a hard time
kind of dealing with these emotions and
energies and and heartache and things
like that that's what it's about and you
have to die to truly live I mean that
that concept is is all it's not just in
the Bible it's in all the holy books you
know yeah like like right now we're we
having a conversation in a dialogue and
we're talking on the internet you know
we're having an experience you know you
you can't take an idea like having an
experience in sold books and DVDs and
make a living on something that's based
on an experience you know it has to have
some sort of like fireworks behind yeah
it does you know it has to be some sort
of grandiose label on it like extension
5d and you know a lot of these people
think that hey you know aliens and come
down and save us or something you know a
lot of people believe that yeah and I
find it funny I've been behind the veil
man I've seen I've seen some crazy stuff
I've contacted the aliens the Angels
whatever you want to call them I've seen
them do aerial phenomenon and let me
know they're out there
of stuff that a lot of people probably
will never experience like I got to see
some stuff only because my heart desired
it I think if you want it it's there for
you so that I'm nothing special in that
regard but I think if you want it you
can have that stuff happen as well but
most people don't want that bad enough
they would rather you know get a good
night's rest you know instead of being
outside stargazing for six hours and so
I've seen a lot of stuff in these other
people but but I can't tell you exactly
what's going on and some of these other
people who I'm sure they haven't done
the work that I've done I'm sure they
haven't done they've got it they've got
books they're telling you I'm talking
with the Arcturians from Sirius these
beings from Sirius B and the Orion
Council of light the Galactic Federation
this is who they are I don't know how
they're getting this information whether
they're trying to channel it or they're
making it up or what I don't I have to
call BS on a lot of this stuff I really
do yeah the idea I I have right now it's
just very basic and simple just you know
bring back the glue of you know trust
and brotherhood in friendship and you
know I'm trying to do that for this
introducing this divination system
because there's a certain point where
when this system starts taking off and
it starts working for people what
happens is there's a certain type of
telepathy that happens which is higher
self higher self telepathic
communication and something like that
can only happen through trust and
friendship yeah yeah that's why that's
what happens with you know maybe maybe
something like that is just me maybe I
haven't
maybe I'm mad that I don't have more
information that I did I feel like I
should you know after having these
encounters and stuff maybe you can get
the information from these beings well I
don't know but um but from my
experiences it works a lot differently
than people say it's not as easy as
people make it out to be from from doing
this but uh it is about doing the
spiritual work yourself and trance
sending spiritually over your own ego
over your own fears and doubts and own
beliefs and judgments and stuff and I
wanted to kind of reiterate to what you
were saying about how it has to be your
own revelation we talk about this too
because it's not you don't just take
somebody's word for it see like the
Western Christianity and I have friends
who are big on evangelizing and street
preaching and things like that they go
out there and they try to beckon people
to come by taking their word for who God
is hey I had this experience with God
when I was 14 God visited me and changed
my life and that's good like that's
their experience and encounter but they
want them to kind of like stop at that
like okay let me believe this man's
Gospel and follow this man or go to his
church or whatever but it's it that it
should be like a beckon for you to
encounter God in your own way that I had
an encounter and so can you come get to
know God for yourself I think that's
what it's about and dealing with the
spiritual giftings in the bible and the
psychic abilities and things like that
it talks about Peter Dylan with Simon in
the scriptures and they were casting out
demons they were healing people and
having revelations and all types of
stuff in the Holy Spirit they would lay
hands on people and they would transfer
the energy and the Holy Spirit would
engulf them and they get born again and
was called the baptism of fire and
Simon's seen that and he wanted to buy
it he said oh yeah come here
how much do y'all charge to teach me how
to do that and essentially we can put it
in a book and give it to you right
that's the same thing okay I wrote all I
wrote the steps down in the book this
book is $14.99 by the book and you'll
learn how to do what I just did no he
rebuked him he said no this comes this
comes by by by supplication alone
there's no way that you can learn how to
do this they rebuked him and he went
away sad but he's essentially it's
showing those that want to take the
shortcuts and don't want to have the
encounters they want to they want to
take a short and you can't take a
shortcut you can you can fool people you
can't fool God you can't afford your own
conscious that would you have to put
your
on your pillow every night and close
your eyes and you had to go to those
realms and be with the would the Creator
and you know if you're deceiving people
you know if you're leading people to
stray and you have to do the work there
is no shortcuts yeah yeah yeah that's
why I really like these these people
that are into like the dark hearts and
stuff I pay usually of EI collating know
I remember man I he's got this this
website called become a living God and
you know it's basically magicians and
sorcerers and I'm kind of interested in
with what they're doing a lot a couple
of this books and you know I've been
studying it but you know like I was
saying before I'm really trying to reach
these people into those kind of arts
because they already do divination and
it's something that would help them but
they don't have to change their
lifestyle those would be it would be
easier to reach those people than
finding someone who is brand new to any
of those concepts and then you have to
deal with in my case a lot of Christian
people who demonize those concepts
because that's what they were taught to
demonize what they don't understand so -
I mean that's what I'm doing I'm
reaching out to people who who are in
you know all of this stuff I have people
who deal with um every religion or
belief system under the under the Sun
and I don't have to convince them back
in Christianity I had to convince you
like it was my goal to win the
conversation win you over to my belief
system I don't have to do that like your
belief system is your belief system or
reason you've experienced things
differently than me
you've come to a different conclusion
that's okay it doesn't mean that I'm
wrong or you're wrong it just believes
that we're looking at the same thing a
little bit differently you know if your
hearts in the right place and you around
you and you know they feel a certain
something you know some kind of an
entity or a by there's something you
know a good feeling and then they find
out they you're a Christian or you're a
Bible reader or something like that yeah
you're just automatically honest
reading the Bible on the rondall he'll
good gonna church uh you know yeah you
know they'll see and you and realize you
know that's that's what I want is about
yeah you know
but you know if you go out there and you
start pointing your finger and start
telling them you know you're gonna burn
in hell and all this [Â __Â ] you know
forget it yeah you know it kind of kind
of works both ways they're not stupid
anymore they think they know what's
going on you know well I think that's
something that only um will only last
for so long like I have people who look
up to me I have people who like learn
from me and stuff but they're not under
me they're there yeah I'm saying walking
with me and we're learning from each
other I'm learning just as much from
this person and their journey as well
and there's a longevity there if you
promote yourself as a teacher or as not
a teacher but as someone who's like
lording over people once they find out
that you only know so much or or they
find somebody else teaching something
different they're gonna leave you
they're gonna be gone like I've seen
I've seen them come and go I had people
who were in the Christianity and then
you know even in something as small as
them like they want to you know drink or
do drugs they cut off all their
Christian friends because you guys are
demonizing everybody
you can't walk with them there so but to
let them know that look I'm with you
like you don't I don't I don't Lord any
knowledge over you I don't I'm not your
ruler or whatever then I think that week
we can walk together and have longevity
with a friendship right and and that's
what I'm seeing what happened in and you
know the people I'm involved with this
is I it's a genuine friendship it's a
genuine concern for their their life
like wanting them to just to to learn at
their own pace because if they you know
once they figure out or they're like you
know what I don't believe in aliens no
more true stick I got a leave or
whatever like there's people who are
gonna see that but but if you're a
friend and you're sticking with that
person I think you have I think we have
friends till we die I got think there's
people that when the Bible says you find
a friend who was closer than
brother like I have those friends in my
life you know yeah yeah if you're not
the real deal
they'll sense it they'll go elsewhere
well only for Tom like if you tricking
people it's only for a season I people
are eventually gonna grow up they're
eventually gonna you know come out of it
you you'll keep some people longer than
others trust me I've been a part of many
different sects I've been a part of all
of them and teachers who have charisma
people who are copying off of other
teachers and they got followers and they
got money and all of this stuff like
I've been I've been a part of all that
stuff and it only lasts for a season
every time the rug comes from up under
I'm just study cults for a minute and
what happens when these people start
communes and they saw having relations
with the women who are part of the group
and so all of these you can name them I
mean there's so many of them they all
fall apart you know and there's people
who are still there's coats still to
this day like the Jim Jones stuff duh
yeah all of that stuff that's still
happening like I know those people I
know people who live in the woods who
have a following and they live in the
forest you know and they have taken a
vow of poverty and that's what they
teach that everybody sure and they're
like homeless people living in the woods
who have a cold like I know those people
yeah I think there's going to be some
advances in technology that it's really
gonna help us to sort of you know
resonate with all these changes that are
happening like on an energetic level
like like for example they've got a
cloning technology where they they can
take a piece of flesh from a cow let's
say and they can clone a thousand pieces
and then the cow doesn't have to be
slaughtered so you know I've been
vegetarian for more than 30 years now
and I stopped eating animals in 1970 so
you know most people immediate is and
they don't want to stop so now this
technology is coming in what the
technology does is it allows for these
animals to continue living and they're
not being hurt really they just take
enough
small piece of flesh and then all these
people I want to eat me they just
continue doing it
there's no slaughtering in the animals
mm-hmm okay now some of this pollution
is their technological I think is part
of the solution but you know from an
awareness perspective you're responsible
for your own awareness and what about
that we're about to see you see some
stuff come out that is good yeah it's
gonna blow a lot of people's minds it
already is what we already have oh it's
but they just kind of get it just a
little bit at a time like I remember it
used to be crazy to have to have a
device in your house that can hear you
at all times
I've got a couple of them that we you
know Alexa you know those apps and stuff
you can ask it any question you can talk
to anybody who has an Alexa app and it's
it's crazy they have to market it to it
to us to get us ready if there was just
to implement all this stuff we'd freak
out but we want it like people want
others to know what they're doing right
so there's this thing with like hey man
the government spying on you like people
are so hungry for for fame or just to
just to be somebody they want to post
their every move on Facebook so it's not
like you got to hide something like they
want people to know what they're doing
so for them to have a device in their
house listening to them
that's something exciting you know
somebody somebody's interested in them
you know they're not lonely anymore or
whatever the case is man it's very
interesting how it it's just done slowly
but surely over the time and you'll see
stuff that we're against now they'll do
it in a way to eventually we'll accept
it with with open arms and it's gonna be
it's gonna be normal
everybody's gonna have these selectors
in the house you know I can fight
against it and get freaked out I
remember people thinking that the you
know back in the 70s there were
microphones in your lamps like all the
lamps had microphones in them like all
you can look up all this stuff man yeah
yeah it's like here's some kind of
DeBlase talking to me I want to go at it
with a sledgehammer yeah
and I enjoy the house point I used to I
used to I used to get freaked out when I
don't want my car talking yeah you know
what though I would I think and I think
I think some of that the studies are
coming out is show different a little
bit differently there but I think that I
think riding in the inner in a car that
that has cameras all the way around it
and knows what's coming up there I think
you'd be safer doing that than driving
next to some of these people who are
texting while they're driving having a
conversation and opening up a can of
Pepsi while they're driving like it I
think it would be you know a lot safer
to be in some of these these are these
big vehicles they drive themselves these
smart cars I'm okay with that
you know up to a certain point like take
me some some getting used to jumping in
the car and I being behind the wheel you
know I'm gonna be a nervous wreck
mmm-hmm I'll probably get used to it but
I mean you know I mean what are the
direction is there to go I know that's
where we're going like we have to get
used to it that's the thing I mean we
can try to fight against it I don't
think we can at this point
you know I don't technology the only
thing I don't like about technology is
they give it all of these things and
then they just sort of spring it on you
but nobody is gonna ask you if it's okay
with you that they that they put this
technology on the market yeah well
people are gonna want it they're gonna
give you a little bit more and then when
it's time to implement the next thing
you're gonna want it like like I said
the whole Alexa thing like if they
would've gave us that 15 years ago we
would have freaked out but now we're
like okay my phone can listen to me my
phone can order me a pizza my phone can
do this and that now you have the Alexa
that's just always on you just say its
name and tell it what you wanted to do
like and that's insane you I could say
Alexa play Californication bother Hot
Chili Peppers okay it just starts
playing and I got a speaker system and
everything I think it's I think it's
neat you put in your car and like it's
me but it has
tone I don't have anything to hide like
there was when I was studying the
Illuminati and secret societies and the
Freemasons and all of this stuff yeah I
was in a spooky place like hey they're
listening man they're listening so what
I don't have anything to hide like I'm
not doing anything I'm not supposed to
be I'll I hope I ain't unless you it
just depends on what they what they
think is though so we're talking about
having knowledge and information about
UFOs and contacting ETS and then we're
talking about that on open forms then
maybe that's something they don't want
out that's the kind of stuff I would be
concerned with now you know targeted
individuals and things like that it gets
another a whole nother realm of thinking
and we could do a whole episode on it
really yeah I mean you know most
artificial intelligence does not respond
the vulgar language yeah I mean I think
I was thinking about that like my wife
will cuss at Alexis sometimes and it's
like what if it was like a real
relationship with this device what if it
learned your personality and learned
that if you if you show aggression and
anger towards it or towards whoever's
running it or whatever that that thing
could show anger and aggression back
right that's the real AI that can the
artificial intelligence that can almost
assimilate feelings and emotions and be
there you know that they had that movie
that came out her weather dude had it
was Joaquin Phoenix who had the
relationship pretty much with Alexa his
smartphone you know yeah I mean you know
if these things become self-aware and
you get pissed off hey and if it gets
pissed off back at you it's just gonna
chop your head off you know and it's not
going to have remorse it's not going to
think twice about killing efficient
technology doesn't have a perfect
killing do that be okay with it yeah
yeah there's no remorse there's no
conscience it just it kills you because
you know you pissed it off
it's happening now maybe maybe
technology I definitely I definitely I
definitely know the video games are like
someone who like the UH the video games
are desensitizing people like if you're
playing Call of Duty and you spend eight
hours a day six hours a day three hours
a day killing people and finding
strategies on how to kill people
and then when it's time to go to the
army you've been doing this for years
killing people on on these video games
and seeing people get their heads blown
off and stabbing people and so something
like the army or it's time to go to war
like you're you're totally ok with that
you're desensitized to that from seeing
it on television or playing the video
games it's almost like a prep yeah it's
like a prepping tool yeah yeah there was
a guy named Jared Rand I don't know if
you're familiar with him but he's sort
of like like a spokesperson on the
forefront of introducing and new
technologies and he was saying that you
know people need to sort of you know get
together and start communicating again
and one of the things he said really
kind of struck me was that he said it's
not going to happen on the website on
the internet that people really have to
get together and gather together in
person it's there's some there's some
deep some deep revelations that people
are getting with with AI transhumanism
merging with technology very interesting
man give people a way that they can
contact you they can check out your work
if they want to learn some of the the
art state that you're teaching people
with the divination of how to actually
do this themselves or if they want a
reading from you dot tell people how
they can get them in contact with you ok
they can buy the dice in a place called
puzzle warehouse.com it's like all one
word and they call Campbell's alphabet
nice it's the campbells alphabet soup
company I'm not even making me space for
yes my other things yeah it's a it's a
dice game it's a dice game you know
that's what letters on them and this
puzzle Welsh calm will send you a box
for like $13 and there's no shipping
okay so I'm on Facebook they can get in
touch with me there and set up a Skype
or a zone and I would prefer the pic
getting paid in touch on scraper zoom
first because what happens is if they go
out and they buy the dice and then get
in touch with me later what happens is
they develop these expectations and as a
result of having expectations they start
doing a few readings and your
expectations aren't met and then they
drop out and they lose interest so I
would prefer they get in touch with me
first
on skype they could even call me on the
phone that will be much better than you
know an email and I can explain to them
you know don't have any expectations
when you get these dice you know I'll
give you some ideas about what kind of
questions to ask in the beginning and
you know that's going to change like in
time you can start asking more specific
personal questions and get into more
detail later
hmm in the beginning it's kind of a
delicate process where you have to go
about it you have to do it a certain way
is what I'm saying yeah Oh yep if you're
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Jim Jerrod everyone thanks for hanging
out with me Jim all right there's a
pleasure talking you and maybe we can do
this again sometime
definitely sounds good my brother it was
good to connect with you here
Jim Gerard ladies and gentlemen um very
interesting eclectic person just like me
right just like all of us it's cool
people hit me up all the time wanting to
come on the show I have to like I try to
do a little bit of research and not
because I get I get people hit me up all
the time and something some people are
just like all over the place and they're
oh my god I get weird emails put it that
way so Jim this ended up being a good
one Jim hit me up man showed me his
artwork cuz okay let me check him out
and had a conversation with them and
went back and forth with them several
times we tried to make the show work
yesterday but I had some stuff come up
and a good thing was able to reschedule
today because this this episode turned
out to be a really good episode man I
know I'm like a lot of things you hear
from me it's just I just read I just
repeat myself a lot and I'm okay with
that
even in my music like it's it's I'm just
repeating myself I'm not bringing
anything new to the table there's
different ways to explain and discuss
some of the things I've already stated
my mission hasn't changed like
everything's still the same but I like
to get other people's take on it I like
to get other people's points of view and
perspective about these same things that
we're talking about like I'm talking
about all spirituality just in general
but we talk about aliens we talk about
angels let's get somebody else's concept
of them it doesn't mean they're right
doesn't mean that I'm wrong people get
mad that I don't fight from fight to be
right you know and then fight to get the
last word in and stuff like that I don't
I don't know I don't have that need and
I I don't because I used to have that
need right when I was in Christianity
like I wanted I had to be right
you can't have a Christian like all
these Christian debates are nasty to me
I got friends who are getting into these
debates and trying to prove theology and
they want I've had some of them reach
out to come on my show like big names
want to come on my show and use the
platform to have a Christian debate and
prove why they're right and this other
guy is wrong I'm like no if you want to
come on and tell your story
that's cool we'll do that but you want
to come on here to debate people and
improve why they're wrong and you're
right and no that's nasty to me I'm not
doing that I'm sorry I graduated from
that I really did I could say that I
graduated you're still you're still on
that level I'm not on that level anymore
I'll say that with confidence it's not
what it's about
not to me some people think it is it's
it's not about that to defend their
faith and to prove their point
that's fine you you know you turned off
people in the in the midst of that and
you uh I hope it makes you feel better I
hope you feel more validated because you
belittled me in my belief systems you
laughed at me even on camera right I
went on you know somebody else's show
I'm not gonna say no names but if you
guys follow me you seen the awkward
interview that uh that I've recently did
and that person's gonna come back on my
show I'm here soon I don't want it to be
awkward but we're gonna have an
interesting conversation but it works
the same way just like you the
Christians out here will turn their nose
up at the New Agers or at the mystic
mystics and your your your Gnostic and
you practice mysticism and it's demonic
they'll turn their nose up and laugh at
you and all this stuff but the New Agers
do it to me like when I saw if I want to
show and I mentioned Jesus they'll laugh
or or or or think it's real primitive
and they're you know you believe all the
old concepts or whatever the case is and
they caught Li laugh at it listen to the
Joe Rogan podcast listen to them talk
about Jesus and and make fun of the
desert religions that's what they call
it oh you still follow the you know I'm
saying the desert religions and all of
this stuff and they just poke fun of it
and stuff so it works both ways like but
I think it I think it's a defense
mechanism like I think people do it
because
they you know I've been talking about
this you have to like belittle people to
prove your point or so that you would
get the upper hand right you have to
make somebody feel less than you you
take you take away their validation and
people who I've defended over the years
I have been people reaching out to me
and then going in on me and sending me
messages and crazy stuff and I don't
really talk too much about it because I
try to keep the peace I mean I don't I
want to practice what I preach so if I'm
talking about how belittling people it's
only to make yourself look better I'm
gonna try my best not to belittle people
on here like sometimes I know it just
just comes you know but um I try not to
do it so with that being said we got
some interesting shows coming up I got a
bunch of shows booked I'm I'm in this
weird place because we're coming up on a
hundred episodes so I'm making our way
to closing in on a hundred I don't know
where we're at now probably late 80s
early 90s so I want the hundredth
episode to be good so I'm trying to get
a good guest on here somebody who would
make it interesting and and be somebody
who would who just just make a good
guest in general so I'm not going I'm
not going to prolong it just to get a
better guest on here but we'll see if
you guys have anybody who you think
would be a good guest on the show who
who won't try to get on here belittle me
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stand for
that maybe some of it you know Jordan
Maxwell you got a my hat goes off to
Jordan love them I'll have him back on
here soon again
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