Embracing Supernatural & Psychic Abilities | Leslie Luminare
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Leslie luminaire Leslie my friend
welcome to the show how are you awesome
thank you for coming on today and
hanging out with me we got a lot to talk
about there's a lot of stuff we have in
common we talking about UFOs and aliens
and communicating with with uh
otherworldly beings and things like that
and how you know many people are
communicating with them even if they
don't know it that's something to bring
to the table as well so just talk a
little bit about your work and what you
do so we'll kind of you know you have a
good place to start from there your your
background what you find there is that I
do remote interview sessions and work on
people from a distance I'm able to heal
disease and blocks and density and
attachments in their body and clear it
out and they becomes you know
spiritually activated as well having
spiritual abilities
I'm twelve strand DNA activated and just
why it's pretty much to start
transforming after these sessions I've
done a handful of private sessions and
consultations and I look at that then I
look at the audience who are like I
think the majority of people who were
listening to a show like this I had a
revelation some years ago was I heard
the voice of the Holy Spirit say heal
the healers and I found out that most of
the people who were coming for private
consultations people who were listening
to the work or into the music or
whatever they have this inward longing
to maybe do what we are doing they want
to be a healer they want to do it
full-time they are stuck and they feel
like they have these abilities and the
same thing that you're flowing freely in
they they want to do as well have you
have you noticed that that like a lot of
people who are healers who want to do
with what you're doing and they have to
get over some inner child healings and
wounds and things like that before they
can do it have you have you been seeing
that as well there's just there's so
much interaction energetic Lee that we
have it's been so amazing
the hard connection just the contrast
from working with those who are a lot
less aware and more - because I almost
couldn't handle it I'm such an impact
and when I started working with healers
distant way around the world remotely
just the connection and how we just
activate each other and our gifts and
just it's like you really recognize
you're still a family when you connect
with with them and it's just amazing -
yeah I've got it I've got a few people
that I work with closely I guess I'll go
ahead and give a shout out Chris bars is
in the chat room right now and I've been
like whatever's worked for me over the
years I've kind of took him under my
wing and shared
books and teachings and things and kind
of coached him one-on-one on some things
that kind of pouring out into him and
it's the same thing you start seeing
them emailing you with stories and
experiences of or like revelation on God
and on spirituality and how it is
shifting and synchronicities increasing
in their lives so it's really beautiful
whenever were people tap in and they saw
have any similar encounters and stuff as
well let me ask you this though like
when you started doing remote sessions
for me it was easy to do like one-on-one
sessions or we would do group sessions
that like at home meetings and we would
rent buildings out and do yoga and
energy healing and breath work and
things like that and it's very easy to
be able to put your handle on a person
or be around that that energetic field
when you're physically there so when it
came to doing like remote sessions of
someone across the world there was a
disconnect there for me at first I was
like man that's gonna be hard because
there's this gap in between and I can't
feel their aura you know those type of
things
but someone coached me and said go ahead
and try it you know I have some and the
person said it was it was actually Kelly
in the raw I was used to go on her show
a lot but she had some stuff going on
with her back in her neck she wanted me
to do the energy working and speak forth
healing and I did and she started to
tremble and she said thought of feeling
the intense fire go through a body on
her neck and she was healed just over
the Internet dude actually using video
chat so when that happened I was like
okay I can do this like it like there's
no such thing as space and time we're
connected to everybody as long as you
can get outside your head and tap into
that they're energetic field did you
start out doing anything was like you
know I'm saying like the one-on-one
sessions where you were physically there
or has it always been over the internet
and was there disconnect at first until
you're like hey like the first couple
times I hate this this can work I could
do this well I encouraged my local
clients because for the second one you
say at home and I work on you and they
found that it was more powerful and I
found it more beneficial for me and just
the energy seem Greece so much
for people that way in my very first
non-local client she was shaking on the
ground mister aggressively and she
called me was so excited to next day she
she fired but like negative people he
had really raised vibration and saw
everything that wasn't good for her
anymore it just just yeah I was it was
one of the best days of my life just
like so happy that I could help someone
so dramatically and all these healing
sessions seemed to be that way yes it's
part of like just approaching it to like
to face essentially like you know this
is gonna happen when you show up and you
have those intentions and you know just
like almost like you know we here
the law of attraction or the secret
visualize what you want speak it out
create it and in in in the secret of
stuff like that it's done for like
finances and life goals or parking
spaces you know what I'm saying those
type of things but um but even to take
that to the energy healing sessions as
well to say okay this person is gonna
their life is going to be changed after
this conversation with me that that
they're gonna get what they're looking
for they're gonna cry or whatever they
are looking for they're gonna find it
and go in with that expectation and then
it starts happening you start doing this
stuff on faith especially early on
because you really don't know you know
what I'm saying you you're approaching
it and then they they start crying you
know they start getting like I said
childhood wounds dealt with and things
like that over the phone or over Skype
session it's really beautiful they
actually feel I mean okay I'm just gonna
sneak her a tiny bit of energy for a
couple seconds this was a couple days
before her session she emailed me saying
oh my gosh you know I've been covered
and shimmer dust what what's happening
to me
I didn't know she'd feel it this
strongly just like for a couple seconds
so that was really shifted her knock her
socks off in bed yeah I knew dude my
whole life I was supposed to do this and
I was very aware as a kid the age of
three
what if you had happen when you was a
kid that's what we're talking about
before we went live like what are some
of the things that piqued your interest
in that and whether you talk about being
aware like what were some of the things
that were happening well so I was three
and I went to school for the first time
but before I did I had I felt I knew
what society was when I went there it
was not what I remember it like it was
people seemed chaotic they weren't
spiritually connected they just were
just very disordered and rude and mean
and you know reply just they didn't seem
very spiritually I'm really confused
with this idea they're all very
telepathic we had spiritual abilities
Jesus what he did was perfect like
normal we all were doing that and so I
was you know I would go back home and I
were just talked to I guess like to God
I felt like God what what's going on
here I miss playing it like I was so
confused where am i what's wrong with
these people who are they so like kind
of like animalistic you know I didn't
understand the wars and the home but
just how people work and it wasn't I
felt like a completely and I felt like I
just wanted to go back home forever I
came from and you know I kept saying
you're here to teach them to show them
like yeah and I would I would try to say
things and talk about my spiritual
abilities and they would just you know
they didn't want to hear in history
they've taught you they killed you
killed witches or anyone who had any
kind of spirit like what the hell how am
I supposed to get anywhere and teach
anyway if they're just gonna kill me so
I was yeah for 22 years I ever just kind
of really depressed like I can't was
supposed to do so but it's interesting
even my first word were light you know
get a light worker clocks would call me
like five o'clock and I'd go and look at
a clock and it would be five and then
six o'clock like every hour
hi and you know I kept I always tell
myself instantly manifesting or knowing
something would happen right before I
happened but all my wishes would just
come true and I were talking about don't
you see your thoughts like coming to you
all the time and there were like and so
initially I realized this is because my
energy was very high and these days I
can do things like walking just these
street lights will turn out a certain
point because my energy field and I can
walk up to it turn it back on in a
couple of seconds you know call this
person nowadays that the energy exists
and that's what I'm here to show and
teach for those who are more dense and
don't naturally have these strong energy
feel that stream consciousness let's
talk about that a little bit because you
do something it's called on electro
Kinesis were you able to kind of tap
into electronics or mess with lights or
shut off the electronic equipment
essentially where does that come from
like where do you start with it just
like having a overactive imagination to
like let me try this and then it worked
there because it takes practice right I
don't think you just really just walk
around and just start doing it so
where's the drive come from to spend
time to try to turn off the lights and
things like that was it like like it's
all my like your influence is like
watching people like Sabrina the witch
and stuff like that we were kids you
know what I'm saying she could do stuff
like that like what does that come from
to want to do it and then the time in
practice hits trust me I've sent that
I've sat there with the little PS I will
or whatever trying to spin it and trying
to move stuff and you know I've seen
little bitty things happen there's never
been something big but I've definitely
give it I've given it hours to look into
it so I think the same type of work and
energy goes into trying to do something
like that where do you get where does
that start at I was always turning out
the lights and when your energy field is
really strong like people who can see
energy they'll see me like this
right or anyone about hi so as the kid I
would run around this track and right
when I would pretty much cross this one
point on the track the street light
would go out and I'd be running like
okay go around come back on and then
Here I am again it would go out I'm like
okay and you know with her every night
and it would just do that every time and
so that's that's the wood it is your
energy field when it's strong it breaks
the circuit of the light and then like
princess my hand energy I can beam it
while it's out well thank you a circuit
I can send the opposite energy it turns
on the light so I don't do this stuff
Rhys it's been out for two years they've
replaced the bullet I bested it I busted
my electricity in my house I'd have an
electrician come replace the light and
fix the wiring I have to be careful
you've got video showing that too right
on your website didn't didn't someone
come out and do it like a documentary on
that as well or you were featured in
something yeah yeah I've had birds I've
been able to pet how do well yeah that's
called it barn swallow it would rooster
I pass on my door and we'll just let me
pet it any time and I called wildlife
they're like yeah and it would let me do
it any time I didn't want it get what do
you use do that of course are you a
vegetarian I've gone in and out of
different diets I you know I did a stay
dry faster I didn't eat or drink for six
days no felt great like I was hiking put
that on my channel I'm wearing two
fasting these days and I I was a raw
foodist
a few years but only only a veg stuff
you know raw vegetables raw protein
powders there's a lot of don't work with
my body that actually are healthy for
most people said I'm very limited when I
can eat yeah okay yeah I kind of asked
that because like people who are able to
kind of go out into nature and connect
with animals and stuff they say it's
something about like the animal knows
that you want to eat it or you're a
meat-eater you know what I'm saying so I
don't know if it was like having those
encounters with something where you
weren't eating a lot of meat at the time
and that energy was off of you or
something but I've heard that people who
can go out in nature and pet deer and
pet birds and things like that through a
connecting through I guess telekinesis
but putting out a certain energetic
field where you don't seem hostile like
they know like if you eat deer for a
living then you go out and want to pet a
deer they're probably gonna run you know
what I'm saying yeah and I even had a
sheep my heart energy is extremely
strong I telepathically connect through
my heart with people like when you're
writing it emailed to me I was stealing
it it's so really strong and mostly the
client workers though I can tell you
know someone has issues again yeah I
have better psyche I found it on the
ground frozen I brought it in to warm up
and the first thing it did just fly
right to my heart and go for like five
minutes
that was like oh my god and I think the
footage to my friend because I didn't
know what was going on if I recorded it
thank you
and he said feeling your heart energy oh
you're right I didn't really think about
it at first but yeah no animals could
feel the love we're putting out and the
more you open up your heart and the more
that love you're gonna stream you can
feel when people are literally loving
you
even when they're angry but it is nice
to have that connection to know you know
what energy people are paying off yeah
you know they're about themselves or
towards others yeah bill this is a part
of our evolution as we tune in one more
into our hearts we're gonna be really
you can't get down you can't be
depressed you just it's like you just
feel so amazing like that
have you heard on earth just feel so
good all the time and having incredible
miraculous experiences all the time just
like because so many think that's my
favorite thing you're just having that
love feeling in my heart yeah I never
knew I could feel such a deep love just
yeah that right there in itself if that
was the height of spirituality okay okay
why you guys talking about aliens my
guess on my energy work and spirituality
just because what you just said you have
an immense love for Humanity like this
is what it's Purdue this is the fruit
that that your lifestyle is producing in
you you have a love for Humanity you
want to see the best in everybody you
you're not there's no like racial
barriers or dogmas or you're a Christian
I'm this I'm this or whatever the case
is there's immense love everybody that's
what I keying on we talking about doing
the things that Jesus did that's what
Jesus did a huge love who he essentially
became love like walking in the flesh
and we're to do the same thing that's
why I love talking about this stuff and
I think that talking about any of this
stuff like especially for me like
stargazing or the belief in aliens or
whatever of having these encounters the
it produces like this sense of awe and
wonder this majestic feeling that God is
real is not just a theory angelic beings
they're coming from they live somewhere
there's somewhere else you know and they
travel here and they care about us and
they're affecting us and things like
that that builds my belief in God it
makes me feel more connected it doesn't
it's not like these a conspiracy theory
like it's part of your life it affects
the way you think and the way you treat
people I think that's so beautiful and
is why I talk about it some people they
don't there's a disconnect there for
them you know they don't they don't link
the aliens with God or I link them with
angels they're the same thing to me you
know we can we can those words are
interchangeable for me it really is
because they don't call themselves
aliens you know what I'm saying they
have different names and rankings and
orders and titles and things so that's
what's so beautiful for me I wanted to
kind of just touch on this comment
before it it goes away to farters people
in the chat room right now talking it up
but um someone says that it sounds like
your experience has being able to deal
with electricity and things like that
and being able to move things and stuff
they said sounds like Justice League or
The Avengers and for me as a kid I was
watching you know the x-men and Marvel
comics and stuff and you see the mutants
and and and even the bad guys wanted to
kill the mutants as well you talk about
these these healers are being persecuted
you know so it's really really cool like
watching that stuff as a kid there was
like an inner longing or connection like
you connect it with these super
superheroes that you essentially are on
the inside and it's hidden within the
comics and stuff most of that stuff
isn't made up like most of the stuff was
taken from old holy books even stuff
that was taken out of the Bible and some
of the stuff out of the bhagavad-gita
and they bring it together and they put
new names on it there's nothing new
Under the Sun so to see that stuff and
then well you know that's just in the
movies that's just a cartoon it's not
real but no like you find out that it
Israel you can affect the weather you
talked about having experiences with
cloudbursting talk a little bit about
that I've tried that as well you talk
about concentrating trying to make
something happen like I've done that as
well holding off the rain making it rain
I've seen videos where tornadoes are
headed towards little villages and they
all get out there and they start praying
and lifting their hands up towards it
and commanding it to turn away and it
dissipates right before it hits the
village like you can do that and just
like Jesus did it Jesus woke up and he
when he was on a boat and the boat was
about the capsize and the waves and
winds were about to flip the boat Jesus
was asleep because he was in perfect
peace the disciples were freaking out
they woke him
he got up he rebuked the winds and the
waves and made it calm down
and then he rebuked them for not doing
it themselves it's like look my god wake
me up man y'all got y'all coulda did
this you know and it just shows you the
power to that you have to speak to
literally the winds and the waves in
your life or symbolically the winds and
the waves that come on with you no
unexpected bills and the loss of a loved
one
you know that people speaking evil
against you like those are symbolic for
things in our lives but talk about
dealing with nature or dealing with the
elements put it that way with the cloud
bursting let's talk about that a little
bit every time I went to get my hair cut
like I dreaded it I felt like my hair
just to be touched and every time I went
it would rain and eventually my hair
better realize this he said every time
you good man lovely it's rainy and this
was after like 10 years I can't quit for
10 years it always rain and I was a
little bit nervous that he knew about my
abilities you know but eventually you
know he wasn't gonna tell anybody I
guess but yeah I realized later on but
yeah I just had this well I mean I
always didn't have to try to convince
anyone
well you just want to convince yourself
first right the kid always had a strong
connection with Jesus like I felt like
you know like I said wait where's Justin
doing these things but it was just in me
I you know I'm like here talk about that
movies I would see those and even as a
kid is like I'm a superhuman but no one
knows it okay
I knew that's like a superhero like
you're staying and I wanted to not
really be the only one man you know I
thought it was until I was you know like
when I was 22
so for those who aren't who because I
mentioned cloudbursting for those who
have no idea what it is talk a little
bit about like the actual practice of
doing that okay yeah
say for instance there's clouds you can
just kind of know I've done this and
demonstrated this and some people tell
me kind of do it some people could do it
some people couldn't do it and you know
the more you raise your energy and allow
that just realize your manifestation
ability we're going to be able to just
have to release your blocks and that's
what I hope do you know in sessions as
well just like release people's
limitations and help them to remember
their power what is soul mate energy
well besides like our connection with
well I'm workers with other people I
find sometimes you'll stumble across
someone that you just you feel that but
it's like hundred times stronger you
just have this connection that that like
for instance we have relationships these
days they're very three-dimensional
they're you know you go out in dates
look pain so you're like I mean it's
just shallow and when you like for me I
I communicate with people so much
distantly and when you have these
experiences in this connection with
people you they always know thank you
you're so telepathic with energy like I
was saying you feel and how people love
you and we're thinking about you it just
so in terms of like the intimate side
it's just like hundreds of times
stronger and they don't even have to be
there you just have these experiences
with them
it's just incredible and it feels like
what it should actually be you know I
remember like my first license I was
like I remember something way better
because I always remembered these are
the past lives and people would get so
excited about things like ooh like how
advanced are dld is it was like I
remember these but times or the
technology way better so I couldn't
understand how people got excited about
just what's in these other times that's
way better
including like you know like the
relationships and the more you do like I
said raise your energy the more
incredible yeah yeah like I said with
the six day fast like you're fed like I
literally taste I can tell who I am
feeling just because of like the taste
that I feel like the way their energy
interacts with my heart and they kind of
have a certain tasting and I don't know
I can taste smell it's like I feel them
in my lungs I'm necessarily going yeah
everybody's different and you talk about
like having a problem like early on if
you don't understand what the energy is
and how to deal with it and how it's
coming in like it's it could be
overwhelming like you're talking about
that's why I love doing this show
because I'm essentially creating a
platform that I needed when I was going
through that stuff like I needed
somebody to talk to I needed to have a
show where I can call in you know and
talk to people who who I have access to
I'm in a Bible Belt so there's no way I
can just go through a random I've tried
going over the pastors and stuff like
that they don't have no idea honestly
but um that stuff it can be overwhelming
you saying if you're walking into
Walmart or any grocery store and you can
suddenly feel the intentions and the
thoughts of the people who are shopping
as you get close to them as a kid that's
overwhelming I went to visit my brother
in prison I talked about this and how it
happened to me at when I went to visit
him in jail
all of these inmates and convicts like I
knew
why they were in jail and some of the
things that they have done and it was
overwhelming I thought I was judging
them you know I didn't know what it was
until I did more research into the
prophetic and been able to discern
spirits is what the Bible calls the
discern the spirits that are armed
people the things that they're involved
with or whatever the case is it could be
overwhelming
um whatever because you said a lot of
this came natural to you as a kid I mean
if it comes natural you kind of just
think it's second nature or essentially
first nature in your case so did you
ever come to a point where it became
overwhelming of you just have to like be
try to turn it off we talked about being
able to turn it off and turn it on and
tap into it
like you can actually do that have you
ever had those encounters where was just
a little bit too much and you have to
kind of leave I had I was into a lot of
crazy stuff so I opened up when I got in
I really got into like spirits
communicating with me there would be
times where I would be eating dinner
with my wife and I'd have to leave the
restaurant because I could hear all the
conversations and I can feel spirit it
was just insane it was like
schizophrenia almost and there's a lot
of people diagnosed with that or being
bipolar because they're influenced and
swayed by the different energies and
spirits if you there has to be a way to
to control it or to discern it or to
turn it down at a period of time you
have you encountered anything like that
just and you know that really seems to
make it a positive experience I'm not
just just feeling the love yeah I did
for life and for the people you're
around and you're sending out that
healing energy it doesn't it thank me
like it used to I used to go I I'm
really bothered by people in the density
here but you know nowadays it really I
feel a lot better yeah yeah it is
something that that I'm I think kind of
makes you thankful and and gives you a
sense of
ah wonder that you are that you have
these abilities and stuff so learning
how to to control it definitely helps
especially with being grateful and stuff
like that you will talk about discerning
spirits and you were mentioning like
doing interviews or dealing with certain
people that you know maybe I should stay
away from this person there they're like
condescending during our conversation
and I know they don't take me serious
and there's all types of different
people who have like different ulterior
motives and hidden agendas and stuff and
you have to play off a discernment let
me ask you this have you seen people
like that who are leading like masses of
people whether that's a pastor or even
like people in like the Lightworker
realms and stuff who I know people who
have Facebook pages in like the hundreds
of thousands like 400,000 likes they've
spent money to to get those likes up and
they have a huge influence but these
people are dirty like these people are
they are in it for selfish gain crazy in
there's a lot of them out there you can
feel it but being able to sense this
sometimes people can be the only one who
can sense it they don't have much proof
but but the other people can't and you
can in that there's a sense of you get
kind of distraught it can lead to
depression when you see people who have
these big platforms and you know that
they're lying that they're in it for the
wrong reasons and stuff like that I
don't understand energy they're giving
off very good and also he's you know
being sent a guy like you're you have to
kind of say well it could be that was a
little struggle too so good but wait but
yeah I could just keep pouring out the
love of the light you'll stay you know
pretty clear but yeah I definitely agree
I was just talking to someone about that
and you know sometimes when I
find someone and since me lower-energy
it's often just programming they don't
they've been programmed by some kind of
belief system you know they like
everything I say then I'll say say or do
something that you know I feel energy so
I it's based on love they don't they
don't feel it like I do and so because
of this programming and demonizing
they'll attack me yeah like you're not
understanding yeah like UFOs
I have amazing loving connections like
when they go by and they're sending
massive love vibrations you're seeing my
friends next to me we're like oh my gosh
it's like angelic like you were saying
and people who don't feel energy can't
really attack this stuff okay yes yes
the programming of thinking is that we
we sense it and we say it's angelic and
it's beautiful and since forth this on
Wonder you know helps with creativity
you know I'm saying I look at my music
and stuff and their levels of creativity
that it's kind of unlocked in me from
having these encounters and stuff but
you know the other people it's the
opposite you know they're scared they're
fit in there I'll dealt with some level
of fear just because of the programming
of watching all the abduction movies as
a kid and things like that you know and
so when I had encounters I'm like oh
Lord they're gonna take me you know what
I'm saying like I want to I hope that
they're good I'm I'm praying for good
stuff to happen and then they come and
then they get kid it gets real like oh
Lord
what if they take me you know would have
been and they don't bring me back and
they do experiments on me you have to
move past that kind of stuff you know
that's the fear and in the end up in the
program and to some people are
mentioning that's why I could never
watch this thing I don't want to attract
yeah I saw like right after I would
watch a scary movie I would see just
happen to go to someone's home and see a
dark thing in the urban center persons
ought to I can't be taken no hearing
these things
please get out yep John that stuff on
unto yourself um and so people are
mentioning psychic attacks as well
whether that's done intentionally like
someone doing a ritual or a spell or
something sending bad vibes away being
empathic it's it can be hard you know
because you can you by default can feel
it you can feel when people are talking
about you when people want to harm you
like you literally can feel it and your
auric field and your body you're
sensitive to it
you have to learn to deal with it um I
felt that coming when I was leaving the
like regular Christian Church like the
Evangelic or Christian Church on my way
out like I felt the backlash and stuff
like you're talking about with when one
person is talking about your gossip and
think of a whole congregation of people
making an example out of you and like
put tying you into their sermons and
about falling away from God and just all
kind of crazy stuff and then hearing it
from other people like that was
overwhelming for me like having all of
these people do it but you have to you
have to learn how to deal with that
stuff and where to send the energy and
how to go to your secret place your
quiet place to get with God to get with
with good energy you know what I'm
saying if not it'll you'll just be kind
of like pushed around by the winds and
the waves and anything somebody don't
like you it hurts your feelings somebody
sends you a bad email you're depressed
for the day you know what I'm saying you
have to know who you are you have to
know your identity and be confident in
that and you have to know who you are or
they'll be able to to actually tell you
who you are and especially if you're
trying to do this stuff in the public
because the bigger of a platform you get
the more of those people who are gonna
be jealous of your platform or feel like
they should be doing it and not you and
then they're doing articles on you and
doing videos on you and stuff like that
and you get so you have to get ready on
how to deal with the adversity that
comes through gossip or psychic attacks
as well people spreading rumors and all
kind of crazy
it comes with the territory in healing
it's somewhat beneficial to be able to
feel what someone's going through you
know what yeah a lot of people can we
gotta know a lot of healers and they get
it's easy it's easy to get overwhelmed
and um they can help people it can help
people come out of adverse situations
and help people find miracles in their
own life and create miracles but then
when University comes towards them
they're distraught you know and they
freak out and they panic and stuff and I
know people who do that I've done it
I still do it at times you have to check
yourself you know it's not always easy
but you have to go back to that what I
call the secret place and with the Jesus
called the up the prayer closet getting
alone with God or symbolic as the cave
and in the Old Testament where David
would run from his enemies just to be
with this creator you know I'm saying so
it's like I think we all have to be able
to do that especially in times of attack
like that you know finding that place to
go to because it could be over
overwhelming if you're not if you're not
used to it and it's gonna come it's not
like it's not really if but when write
down a frustrating thought or felt too
stressed and got into that that's one of
the things were coming yes just you have
to stay in that yeah yeah like I'm not
I'm just doing this to teach I'm not
trying to be you you know it's not for
me it's just to help people and I think
humor is very they are very special like
you go there's so much difficulty so
many struggles to be able to do this
just and it's not even before you you
know it's for the people yeah I noticed
that uh that kind of stuff comes during
times of transition and this one is kind
of like the rockiest or the hardest and
kind of can Purdue
the dark night of the soul is during a
transition because you moving from one
level to another and it's unfamiliar you
don't know how it's gonna be you don't
you don't know how to transition from
that a lot of people listening to this
come out of Christianity there's
messages now with people joining us now
saying that they've they're just not
getting into mystical Christianity right
so even that's a - even - even take that
title it's a leap you know what I'm
saying so it is uncertain we've never
done it before Eid so we'd have to watch
podcast we have to reach out to people
who have done it it makes it a lot
easier to not feel alone when you know
you got other people going through it
with you but let me ask you this so
because you come from a different
perspective and you've seen to kind of
take the high road the majority of time
in life
did you ever get into a dark place that
was like seeing the good and everything
so now you're sending love you're
sending positive energy you think the
best of every situation every outcome
that comes with the territory like
that's our goal right you're doing that
well would you ever enter the negative
stuff we're like studying the Illuminati
or everybody is by looking for the
negative end stuff versus looking for
the good and stuff now studying super
dark I just yeah it never really went
into dark arts I've been accused of it
I'm like I feel energy I would not wanna
that's not to say I had never attracted
anything it's possible because when I
when I went through my like I said I was
pretty much born awake but I went
through a transition in order to we're
gonna have to be torn down and you go
through this like where you have to wear
everything in your life is taken from
you your friends turn against you you
lose person you feel like you're
supposed to like your family isn't there
for you like people trying killing you
just like your body is falling apart you
so like you'll lose your job for a
really bad reason for like unfair
reasons just like everything happens to
be at once right just like the rug is
pull everybody you're here and the life
and finally started building and getting
successful it it's just like nothing and
you have to when we get to that in order
to learn how to how to build our
spiritual gifts because it's more about
it's not about the physical doing the
three-dimensional processes we're used
to in density it's more about the you
know manifestation and using energy to
create and attract what we want and to
build it on a lighter by vibration
anyway it really you know hermit phase
all your thoughts and energy manifest
the reality in which we're in it yeah
raising levels you know it's on you it's
in your like okay I make you progress
and but each time you make a step up you
realize well the friends you just made
you know your spiritual new spiritual
bodies they don't come up with you each
time and you have to be like okay you
know you were start to realize they kind
of started attacking you when you're up
here and they're like oh you just raised
operations like they don't consciously
just start trying to bring you back down
attacking you you're like what's going
on so every time you do ship do you have
to learn to let go are no longer serving
you least for me I I know we this I
think too fast and I have to like keep
letting go yeah it's really it is that
when it comes from those who are close
to you because I noticed that you know
and it you can expect it from the
strangers but when it happens you know
by the friends it's a little bit harder
pill to swallow especially if you're
like coming up with somebody you're on
the same level same playing field and
then something happens for you and then
something else happens for you
opportunity being consistent
with your platform you build it yourself
and that person's like hey I should have
been the one to get that promotion I
should have got that happens when a job
when real promotions you know uh-huh I
say real promotion promotions unlike the
financial side with with a job and peeta
nice are lashing out and they start
attacking and they saw backbiting and
gossiping and trying to find ways to
bring you down and things like that so
when it comes from the friends it is
hard I've had it happen many of times I
have have I have like deep friendships
with people but from time to time it's
like I have to cut them off you know
because they'll lash out like stuff they
did years ago they'll come back out and
like it's usually the conservative
Christian friends cuz that's just the
people I that's my past you know and
they're kind of working with me where I
am and then all of a sudden they'll go
they'll revert like do stuff they did
five years ago that made us cut off our
friendship you're this and they're just
lash out sigh oh my goodness yeah I
can't deal with you anymore there's no
grace there you know and it hurts when
it comes from from friends but if you
want to bring it back into your life
yeah they haven't changed yeah they've
made this person particularly made a lot
of strides and I was excited you know
and we were building I had them on the
show
podcasts you know made a lot of strides
but then if you would say something that
they didn't like they would go right
back to that fight-or-flight thing you
know and and I could see that I was so
happy for the the progress that they've
made that I gave I kind of set myself up
and that's why I talk about to like
being able to see the potential in
people and see the good in people even
if they're in a bad spot that's the
being able to kind of see someone
prophetically and see like okay you're
you're in a bad spot right now but I can
see you a year from now I could see you
three months from now where it or a week
from now where what you're going through
you're not even gonna remember it you
know you God has great things in store
for you and I'm gonna help you achieve
it I mean this is what we do right so to
be able to do that with people who don't
want it you know what I'm saying that
could be a problem
where
we were trying to help people who don't
want to help themselves we fall victim
to that of and so seeing the good in
people sometimes can come back to bite
you you know but we still do it
regardless and you got to roll with the
punches to be able to even see if this
person really wants it or do I want it
for them you know it is people who love
their addiction there's people who love
their their hurt in their trauma it
defines them makes them who they are
it's a sense of comfort it's a sense of
identity and they don't want to give
that up they might not even know that
that's just that's just a program that's
there you know changing things and
wanting to change people will only bring
you down so if you can just
unconditionally love them you're gonna
feel fine around them like they might be
in like it doesn't maybe you stick oh
you're just you're happy to be around
Linda you see that you just see you see
them for them and just you know you love
them for their where they're at in life
yeah because I remember I used to get to
me
yeah I did that in when I was in
Christianity like it was a legit thing
at first for my friends and family like
I have you feel like you have the answer
you know what I'm saying like hey I
found it this is what you're looking for
get it I'm gonna give it to you like now
I'm not ready no you need it now bro
trust me
trust me you know and you're going
around you know doing that and so I did
that in Christianity and then my goal
was to try to convert people or to
change the way that you think over to
mine but there's a level of a level of
peace that comes with it just accepting
people for where they are and kind of
feel each everybody's different like
some people and we mentioned religion we
lit mention Christianity like they're
good they're right now this is what they
need maybe for years they may never like
come to the things that you're into and
that's cool
honor them be grateful for them and try
to find a level playing field to build
with
not to force your beliefs or opinions on
anybody like that and I guess with the
Christians don't do it to us you know
what I'm saying you got to be able to
understand like that you can deal with
all men you see there's a beautiful
scripture in the Bible where Paul says I
have become all things to all men so
that I can win some he says to the Jew I
became as one who was under the law as
you know those who are free and under
grace I've I've been there with them and
I've seen that as part of my life like
I've been able to deal with with all
people where they are and not be
offended you know and to have a legit
passion or understanding for who they
are just for them being them whether you
believe in what I believe in or not but
fine find the commonalities to build
upon the people I used to work with on
the job all we could talk about was like
football and sports in the weather
but I got to a place where I was okay
with that they may never want to talk
about UFOs or aliens or spirituality or
Jesus or whatever and that's okay so you
you have to be okay with that
and be able to see the potential in
people if they are if you see the
greatness in them if they're giving off
something that that lets you know that
they they want something more out of
life and but to try to win every person
over and try to take it personal when
they don't affirm you or your belief you
have to you have to be careful of that
yeah you don't need to hold it back yeah
you know I see you offense or I turn out
street lights I used to get I was I've
been attacked and demonized for just
turning out street lights like I this is
how I was born
you had like in this lady you know I
wish these kids were asking what I did I
was trying to explain it yeah and then
this lady comes up to me don't tell my
kids you turn out street length of light
that's what I do I wasn't making it like
she thought I was thinking sir
and I could tell she was Christians I
was trying to explain it yeah yeah but
then when I I realized okay I need to
shift not be worried about what people
think it that's right yeah really not
worried you're just proud of like okay
this is your kind of start changing you
don't change you don't force the change
they start you know asking your
vibration just I've just noticed that
yeah yeah when you're just okay with you
are you happy oh yeah energy you're high
it's contagious though right other
people want to do it that's what it's
got me doing what I'm doing now of
seeing other people doing what they love
for a living and enjoying it and getting
in getting able to wake up and go to
work and do what they love for a living
like if first it kind of makes you
depress but if you're in a spot that
that you you're not doing that but I
think that that pressure that depression
and that it can it can be used for good
like almost like alchemy taking all the
bad things and using them to project you
to the life that you want like something
has to birth that hunger but yes seeing
people live their life and being able to
make money doing what they love and and
and being able just to sustain
themselves and to help people for a
living
it can be done it can be done like
whatever you want there's people who
want to support it it's it's an it if
it's a need and you feel that need that
people that people have it could be done
that's just encouragement for everybody
out there listening don't give up they
don't give up on your dreams the vision
that you have for yourself all of that
stuff don't give up on it can be done
and people seeing you live out your
dream people seeing you happy joyous
you're not depressed when you should be
you know why you joyful why do you have
peace when all of these were in a time
of war and you're you're okay with that
you're in peace you have you're not
depressed and stuff you know
freaking out over everything that's gone
social media where they're trying to
like program us and stuff like that like
that's contagious like other people want
that and so that right there is the
perfect catalyst you being who you were
created to be of uh and that that's the
biggest thing they're being ok with who
you are and not and not having to
pretend that no I don't turn out lights
I went through that like coming out of
Christian I was like I don't believe in
UFOs I had to I was trying to go back to
them to get them to accept me I don't
believe in this I don't talk to psychics
I don't you know although this kind of
stuff you know
even if people have been you know
energetically storing our problems don't
seem like it after years of my work you
know you won't have this problem anymore
you won't need to eat any as much
because you're lighter you won't need to
sleep as much you're just I think all
the time that's it's like we're just
going back to a state of almost like
perfection or oh yeah yep yep that's
good too because symbolically like Jesus
is called the second Adam and you
mentioned the Falls is perfect because
where Adam whether he's a real person or
it's just symbolic for something else
whatever that's debatable
but Adam in the fall whatever that was
brought us into a lower state of density
introduced in into the world or just the
knowledge of of addictions or that we're
separate from God or whatever the case
is right the sin is to miss the mark
like you meant for perfection but you're
settling for less like it there's so
many and in just a word the word repent
it was used is to have a change of mind
to have a total change of mind a change
of heart
so what Adam represented the fall Jesus
is called the second Adam that fixes
you know I'm saying all the wrong that
he's done and so in Christ or in love
Jesus is also representation of love
perfect love you tell my love without
judgments or love without reservations
just a universal love for everyone
regardless of anything that that is like
what's what's healing us that's what's
what's moving us to experience life the
way it's supposed to be felt and
experienced without the sin without the
the judgments without all of that stuff
and it's okay to judge like BS or stuff
that's wrong like it's okay to open up
your mouth against this so let's just
don't say we just everything gets to fly
there's some there's some bad stuff out
there that we have to speak on but to
experience life more abundantly like
it's available for it for everyone and
it's awesome that you mentioned the fall
Adam Jesus is called the second Adam and
I've been I've been using that
terminology a lot in my music the second
Adam returns to the garden keys to the
kingdom so I'm using a lot in my music
here lately there's a question here I
want before it goes too far somebody
says wants me to ask you these
experiences and abilities and being
sensitive and things like that is this
something that you have tapped in to for
the first time in your family or was
your parents into anything like this do
they cater to it was it was the
relationship with your parents just all
of this the only thing my mom I
considered her I don't know if you
believe in the soul age thing but I I
saw her as an older soul I mean I am
mature soul she didn't remember as many
abilities that had some addiction
problems but yet she had a respect for
like over older buildings and stuff and
you know there's like Chris
here that may not believe this like I
said I remember just all these
experiences and that's why I have these
abilities and and so I just kind of when
I went to cuz just cold for the first
time I was I was kind of shocked I was
like why aren't they talking about
before this life like because I have all
these memories right now you know
talking about that you know I remember
hanging out with Jason hanging out with
doing all these different things that I
know I just could do instantly this life
and never had to work on it so I asked
her like what do you believe
well we were before this life energy I
know where do we go after this life so
she was open to past lives and that was
the only thing that made me feel not so
ever happen but you know there's that
question like do we turn into ghosts
are we reincarnated you know and you
know I mean like what is it you know I
mean we had people who kids who talk
about their past find out that well they
you did the research they knew the exact
town they were living in they knew how
they died they knew their family members
they find that that situation existed
yeah that's really weird
yeah and and they're like I'll get off
like historic yeah just like there's
souls that are you know just when team
said like I've done mediumship for
people but yeah but they were so loving
it was like they were the same exact it
felt exactly like someone who had was
alive like Co work with the energy
that's enough you know just talking to
them from heaven Wow
they were just smiling and sending so
much they're just just showing me what
they did for a living I told them
but I don't like to do that some people
that begged me to do it it wasn't what I
expected yeah yeah that's awesome um I
wanted to ask you two because you
mentioned technology a while ago and I
was gonna use that as a bridge but you
mentioned like advanced technology and
how it could have been here at one point
whether it's Atlantis Egypt or lumeria
like having this advanced technology
still there they're finding advanced
technology for them that were there that
was there that they're finding now and
still don't even know how the pyramids
were built we don't have the technology
to build those now you know what I'm
saying so talking about technology and
where we are I I was in this state for a
while getting in the spirituality that
brings you closer to nature wants you to
go outside more put your feet on the
ground connecting things like that which
we need to do but I was kind of in this
realm that like I didn't like technology
I didn't like the fact that Facebook is
mimicking the fact that we already are
connected spiritually and how we can
tune into one another's energy and and
check on to check in on one another and
it's mimicking the social construct and
and it's taking place of the social
interaction there's social media and in
understanding Kali Yuga where man would
use technology to fight against God I
was really standoffish against the even
though I used it and stuff but now I'm
more at the point where I love
technology like I love to see the
advances in it and I've been messing
with people because in the conspiracy
realm which kind of merges into some of
what we do people are talking a lot
about Alexa stay away from Alexa don't
get an Alexa in your house and I like to
mess with people's eye hey I got two of
them in my house and I love them that's
awesome to be sitting around yeah I
could say Alexa play the song by so and
so and it'll play it like I loved I love
music so much especially going into the
deep catalog of music from like classic
rock from the 70s and and some 80's
music and I'm like hey plays this song
and it'll just play it no matter where I
am in the house we I really I love that
if you have a question or whatever but
you
you had an experience within Alexa too
so if you want to talk about that that'd
be cool I really don't know much about
me because well first of all
Ethan's bluetooth and I'm really since I
I'm kind of anti some aspects of
Technology yeah I felt like it should be
advanced and healthy for the body
damaging yeah yeah you know because I am
system I can tell people you know okay
this one's good but this one's gonna
make you go bald like I see people
eating this product they just start
healthy I get near I'll have a headache
for 24 hours
you know it's just so intense I don't
get it compass and put it up and show
people see this is what I'm feeling like
because they don't think I'll go because
of the magnetic field yeah point
direction anyway so yeah like so I
thought okay I I'll just demonstrate and
prove a point here the Alexa device
I knew something was gonna happen
instead I turned about him um so I
turned it on suddenly I have a black
collar copter hovering over my house I'm
like okay like I'm gonna a helicopter I
did never there's a black one yet
it was just hovering there it would not
leave it we don't have I'm living a
small town we don't have covers anyway
there's like obviously when once a week
go by yeah it was just hovering it we're
not leaving no it's just like please
leave please leave no I was like why am
I not recording this so I went outside
and I recorded it as it was all finished
my thing and the reason I was kind of
interrogating the device was because I
just looked at the video only am i
figure this said no alien life does not
exist or we have no evidence
yeah and Ruben had just been here
interview and he said you know he had
interviewed 50 ex-military personnel in
which they had to burn evidence of alien
lives I know in the United States
everyone knows that they exist I
my recordings a few phones a year before
NASA finally shows one and stops cutting
the feet off I mean we've all been seen
them recording them yeah and everything
so anyway I asked like set instead of
saying the exact same thing that she
told my gosh she didn't say like
understand a question or something but
she didn't say there's no evidence to
support the fact that okay because your
different response
it's kind of weird that like I'm drawing
a connection here I've had experiences
while meditating being in deep
meditation connecting with the angelic
realms and seeing UFOs above you while
you're meditating somebody I look up to
james gilliland that the east city
branch he they you know he has a huge
story of him meditating in the house for
hours a sister comes home and there's a
UFO above the house that he's
communicating with the angels or the
entities that are that are on the ship
and so they represent spirituality life
creativity like all that stuff right and
then on the opposite the demonic
encounters aren't the the UFOs that show
up the demonic encounters seem to be the
black helicopters that are showing up
when people are meditating or people are
trying to connect with the ETS right um
I had an encounter where we went out I
had a little men's camp out in deal
where we uh made contact and I was the
goal of the weekend was to go out and
make contact and summon UFOs or contact
them whatever so we went out there we
had some Jim Bay's playing we're playing
guitar and singing and chanting and
stuff playing djembe or along the
riverbank and um we just got our hands
up asking for sighting asking to see the
the Elohim the cherubim Dussehra from
passing by us what I refer to him as
usually and about an hour into it we
started seeing him we seen I think it
was I think we've seen
all of them within an hour and they were
just like all going the same direction
and most of them were outside of the
atmosphere but it was just it was wild
to see all of them like really fast
you'd see one and there was another one
traveling with it and real beautiful
experience so within an hour I think
we've seen 12 what's the number and then
we didn't see nothing more the rest of
the night but to have that encounter and
I went out there with people who had
never seen them before and it was like
look expect it expect to see it we're
gonna see it you know and they did they
had an encounter that changed their life
and but we woke we camped out and we
were awoken that morning at like 6:00 in
the morning of a helicopter flying above
us in the woods hovering above us
spraying chemicals on us it had this bar
at the bottom of the helicopter and it
was spraying chemicals on top of us the
guy looked at us was laughing at us and
pointing at us while he was spraying it
then he would fly off and I think I
don't know if he would go get some more
chemical or what but he'd fly off and
then he'd come back and he'd spin it
tasted like poison like we could taste
it and smell it it was a we got our
stuff up as quick as we could loaded it
into the vehicle pulled out our phone to
try to record it we the dude only had
just like 1% we tried to as soon as he
clicked it or whatever all you can see
was just like the helicopter flying away
but there's only a second left that we
got but that was insane to have this
crazy UFO encounter that night and then
that morning we wait woke into a black
helicopter spraying chemical on you in a
guy it didn't like it wasn't like he
didn't see us he was down low he was
right above the tree line pointing at us
laughing and he was wearing military
garments like that's insane we got out
we got in the car we got took our shirts
off or whatever we're trying to cover
our mouth and stuff is this insane he's
seen us and he did it anyway I don't
know I can't tell you what it was I
don't know if the two were connected I
feel like they were I really do they may
have a technology can detect I think
your field changes when you're talking
because I feel my energy
chef's you can feel them coming let's
fill this love I think take that I
almost think they have by my location
they just instantly show up we're
watching like I would see the UFOs every
day I've been surprised when they let me
record them I was really excited yeah I
would be watching a look and there's a
helicopter like in the yard next door to
me and Robin I turned around it would
zoom yeah yeah maybe it's something
we're like they have whether it's an
area that has increased sightings maybe
they go investigate that if someone's
summoning them I mean obviously they got
to know that this is a phenomena that
you can actually go outside and do this
as people who were going outside and
praying and lifting their hands and
fasting and these UFOs appear like
that's what got me into it being able to
see people do that and and and
researching the scriptures about how
they would fast and pray in the Bible
and then angels would appear you know
and all this stuff so they got to know
what's going on so maybe where there's
increased activity they go to
investigate I remember one time I was
driving in the country I was in Georgia
driving through the country and uh just
driving and I felt the connection that
the telepathic communication said look
up to your right I'm right here I'm
watching you
I looked up during the day there was a
craft there and it was the Sun was
glaring off of it it was shiny and then
it told me that uh that it's gonna have
to go because a jet was coming to scare
it off and looked over and a jet was
headed straight towards it and right
before it not not right before here but
when I got close it just disappeared it
let me see it
told me what was happening disappeared
in a jet flew right in the path of it
I'll say oh my god so it's not just one
thing just to see it it's another thing
when it's like a telepathic
communication going on that's the thing
where people say oh that's just the
military advanced you know technology
bah bah bah bah
okay we do have advanced technology but
I don't think we're communicating with
individuals telepathically in that
manner like that and then going so that
that that opens up a whole new field to
ufology of being something something
else but those are interesting
encounters and like you said when you
have these in counters are seeing these
UFOs you feel an impression creativity
all love wonder like those are good
things
you know imagination you know vibration
the more you're gonna just see these
spiritual things seem like very looking
things they have a trail that's 200
meters long it was like what did they
look like yeah I guess that like it's
about they fly about the roof height of
a house and it's not a straight trail
it's kind of random but it's you know
it's about 200 meters length like us and
link like I said and kind of just looks
like very do you see it for real and
it's always when I say can I see it yeah
I know right when you put it when you
put the attention out there and you want
to communicate you can see whatever you
want like you have to there is a place
of imagination that has to kick in
because you have to say okay if this is
real let me see it and didn't guess what
you start having encounters whether you
will it to happen or what but I feel
like everything is real you can
encounter whatever you want for the good
stuff and the bad if you like just into
the negative stuff and the government's
out to get us in the Illuminati you the
way your mind changes the way your mind
works changes you start to see the bad
and everything you start to see
Illuminati symbolism and everything you
start to see the demon and Satan and
rituals and everything right and you
demon has everything but when you start
wanting to see fairies I've had the very
very encounters with my daughter of just
seeing them just light up
like the woods around us these big blue
beautiful lights would just they just
like something out of the Avatar movie
you know when they're connecting with
those little spirits or whatever like
we've seen that I came inside and I
tried to research if it was some type of
like a lightning bug you know you see
lightning bugs a lot but they're totally
different from being these little small
green lightning bugs that I've seen to
these huge blue lights just all around
us floating throughout the trees it was
insane it was beautiful but that's how
it works whatever you want you create
your own reality if you want to do this
if you want to see this if you want to
communicate there may be a process from
having the thought and then the
manifestation right you have to act on
top of it you're not gonna see the you
can't just say I want to see a UFO and
then don't go look like you actually
have to go and do the work as well right
so you've seen fairies and you mentioned
that you've seen some elementals and
stuff as well would that be the same
thing to you or you have different
encounters with the elementals like
fireworks I was my friend it was
supposed to be someone's birthday and it
was kind of a rough day and I realized
wait they were born at 7:20 and they
haven't started their birthday
officially right when I was going
outside to tell them that these huge
like spiritual fireworks just started
but they were silent obviously before
right I forgot before I turned around
that I saw there's I don't know it's
like just things are just happy to show
up and celebrate yeah it's almost like
and I don't wanna use this in a bad way
because people will say you gotta watch
what you're doing because you're opening
up doors to spirits or demons or
whatever but almost like if you would
you know the whole vampire lore or like
Buffy the Vampire Slayer that you had to
invite them in you have to initiate
contact to start seeing this stuff like
it's all there all of this stuff exists
on different levels of and dimensions
and ghosts and spirits and fairies and
gnomes all of this stuff and people who
live their life and never see any of it
they don't believe it they've never seen
it but if it maybe it's a movie maybe
they get into my music there's people
who get into my music and then it just
they just start you know it's over like
they just saw having encounters and
looking at art uh stargazing and
sungazing it's tough you know and it
sometimes it takes something to be a
catalyst for that stuff but everything
exists like if you can believe it it
exists that's weird the fathom that's
that for some people it doesn't exist
they never experience it and they'll go
to the grave never experiencing it but
other people like I've seen fleets of
UFOs I've seen the one lights here and
there and they're flying but I've seen
them up here out of thin air in the in
the day sky a fleet of UFOs they do
aerial maneuvers they let me see them
I'm speechless blown away I'm I want to
I'm caught in a moment part of me wants
to get the cellphone and film it but the
times I've done that they're gone what
time I get everything on the phone and
I'm not looking you know so but people
may not see one maybe but I was looking
for it I was initiating contact I wanted
to see it you know and I did so part of
this like you have to kind of give
permission if you're not looking for it
you're not gonna see it and you're gonna
find what you're looking for that's the
way the universe is set up it's
beautiful but I don't think that
anything is is impossible the scripture
says all things are possible for them
that believe who are you to tell me what
my all things are my all things are
fairies my all things are angels that's
part of my all things I think that's
different for everybody
somebody who works with ascended masters
someone who works with this and that you
may not believe them could because you
because your reality doesn't allow you
to you don't have anything to kind of
reference it to
rather the only thing you have is movies
you know or in I say the movies are good
things but some people say oh you got
that from a movie you made that up
because you got it from a movie you know
what I'm saying those type of things so
very interesting being able to very
interesting that the veil between this
world and the next is very thin you know
and we have the ability to kind of tap
in yeah there's a state of preventing
that and if you're strong and you don't
have negative thought patterns going out
yeah you know I could have attract
something like demon yeah yeah I mean
you wouldn't track that based on right
holding yours your energy very low
that's when you're gonna have these
negative things around I I know the
difference because like I was drawn from
those types of things and I would go to
my friend's house and there'd be
something out there like I told him I'm
not going your house like I knew when
there was something dark I could always
feel it so tune into your art and your
you know I can wait you're feeling since
it you can tell when something's darker
like but yeah it's whatever your reality
is because like you cuz you create it
demons are real if you want to
communicate with demons you want to open
up your mind and and see demons and see
shadows and the night like those you can
do it but it's whatever you're looking
for you can do it for the good things
you could do it for the bad things it's
all tools of intention meditation prayer
like it's it's not biased it can be used
to connect with God or with the whole
you can use prayer to connect with God
and with the Holy Spirit or you can use
prayer to talk to demons and summon them
into your life at home and things like
that so is it's really just these tools
of intention is all that matters why are
you using them and what are you trying
to make happen all things are possible
so there was a time where I guess part
of me was nervous but I had even friends
who were into some of this stuff
when I was telling them about my UFO
encounters like I had nobody to talk to
and I would try to go to people who were
in the spiritual ah spirituality and
they would even tell me like be careful
man you don't want to summon in some
type of entity that's gonna abduct you
or you know possess you or something
like that I mean that's the majority I
think of especially religious people
talk first thing their mind goes to if
you're summoning UFOs are seeing UFOs um
but I read a scripture during that same
time that kind of built this reassurance
was in the scripture was if you ask you
Heavenly Father for a fish he's not
gonna throw you a serpent if you ask him
for a loaf of bread he's not gonna give
you a stone so essentially if we're out
there praying meditating and you're
going in good spirits and your
relationship is good with God and you
know if you ask for a sighting if you
ask for an angelic encounter he's not
gonna let a demon come possess you
that's not how it works
you know in reading that scripture
really helped my my it built up this
reassurance in me that I was gonna be
okay in that all I would have positive
encounter and guess what I did all all
my encounters from that I've had the
negative demonic encounters but it was
when I was a negative demonic person you
know but now that I'm in the light all
my experiences have been of the light
I've helped people get through their
darkness too but as far as my personal
encounters in the spirit realm and with
angels and entities it's all been
beautiful every single one of them for
going you know years now over 10 years
yeah yeah that into angels I mean that's
what that's one they're connected I
would go out and I would say that let me
see them if they're out there that the
cherubim the Seraphim the word Seraphim
means the fiery serpents which is the
fiery chariots they had a were in a
cloud by day in a fire by night Enoch
tells us about the fiery angels
Hebrews in the Bible and in the Book of
Psalms it talks about these angels that
are made of fire but they can turn into
men and take assume the likeness of a
human when they want to come to the
earth to to share our message or
whatever the case is with a person and
then I would see them I would see the
fiery ships and they would go and they
would say is that one and it would stop
on a dime oh my god yes that's it you
know and have all these beautiful
encounters wanting to see the angels and
doing my research on the angels and
there's so many different ones you know
the hierarchies and the angels in the
fleet and what's called the heavenly
hosts talks about these heavily and
armies of angelic armies that are out
there and being able to to see it it's
real it's it's not it wasn't scary I
mean there is that there's an intrigue
there and it you should be you should be
careful why we can't really I think that
one thing what we're doing is giving
parameters to have these encounters it's
not I wouldn't say you know you have to
be careful if you're gonna build the
intrigue you got to kind of tell people
how to do it and what works and what to
stay away from there is some things that
to stay away from and it's all if it's
all the demonic stuff if you're trying
to contact demons I don't suggest that I
don't suggest going out trying to make
pacts blood covenant with demons and
stuff like I don't I'm not into that so
I'll say stay away from that stuff but
the rest of it you know the all and the
intrigue and the creativity that comes
with it it's uh it's so beautiful
started manifest
what's happening in the Bible and how it
should be it's not something that only
happened back then yeah there's there's
sex of a sex of um of denominations of
Christians who believed that it was for
then it's not for us anymore but then
there's others who believe it they
believe in miracles they believe in
signs and wonders for it says Jesus said
that these signs shall follow them that
believe that if you believe this is
going to
like it said they shall follow not that
they might follow or they could follow
but if you really believe this is what's
gonna happen you're gonna cast out
demons you're gonna be walking in
healings and miracles and signs and
wonders and and they were communicating
with angels they were going in and out
of transit during the day and having
these encounters with beings who have
come before them like Jesus like it
really happened and if you believe it
it's gonna happen for you it's possible
and then you start seeing it then people
they have like a limitation like I
believe it up to this point I don't
believe that you can communicate with
angels I don't think that you still see
angels and that gets scary for a lot of
people you know but those same people
are okay with you talking about your
demonic encounters and seeing demons
right now I've been to plenty of
churches what they want me to talk about
my demon encounters and my past and
testimony but then when you're like okay
let's talk about these angels man we all
wait we can some of these angels we can
ask for their assistance and they can
come y'all want to do it let's do it you
know those type of things and then
they're like nah let's I don't believe
that you know it's it's really weird of
like what level of belief each person is
at and where they draw the line with it
I mean we we should have a line right we
shouldn't just let anything fly though
you start to have these I don't know if
this makes sense but do you ever feel
like you started to see through the eyes
of God like you see what's gonna happen
I guess I'm just gonna mention when I
had this weird feeling to drive to this
town like two hours away I would never
go here I didn't like the town I went
there and I was just like so depressed
like crying for hours I know what was
going on and I just was looking at this
city like what it felt so out of
alignment it just like it was like
fast-food restaurants and strip clubs in
and the churches everywhere weren't
helping any of it like you just fell
yeah to me and I was a I was like I
guess I should leave
I didn't feel better yet only a few
hours later an f5 tornado came and wiped
out oh oh wow like oh I didn't know if I
was like seeing that feeling yeah but
that was like I was just there and
feeling that yes it's depression and
like but it was almost like seeing God
wanted to wipe out this dirty stuff
it's sad but I feel like if people don't
get on a spiritual path or realize what
the true spiritual path did you know
they might like you're just you can
attract like the negative things even so
bad you lead your life from it yeah
definitely I think that's what those
feelings in a cell for I mean part of
like definitely on like a one-on-one
basis and you get around people when
you're doing energy work you begin to
feel what they're going through or what
they're going to go through and it can
move you to tears and cry that you know
in the scriptures Jeremiah was known as
the weeping prophet he just cried for
people because of their burdens and what
they were going through and he cried for
them and it was healing that will come
through his tears I've experienced that
I've been in states where I can't stop
crying
you know I'm crying of anything
sentimental or anything you feel like an
emotional wreck because you can feel the
energies man and you're crying and
weeping over it but it it shows a
passion within you that you really care
you know what I'm saying and I've
definitely felt that I've had a
supernatural encounter with Jesus to
where I felt how he felt towards or
feels towards humanity and in creation
and it was a love a supernatural love
and it came with a vision like I had a
blinding light that took over my vision
in prayer and I was with other people
and I couldn't see anything just
blinding light took over and I could see
it I could kind of make out a silhouette
in the light but it
just ain't super intense and I started
screaming at the top of my lungs cuz it
felt so good but at the same time it
comes with I love you but I I'm broken
for you I hurt for you my heart hurts
for the state of humanity like you were
saying at what's going on so was a mixed
at one time so it was a brokenness a
sadness but a love at the same time was
really intense and I thought I started
screaming at the top of my lungs in
somebody's house and they were holding
hands in a circle and they didn't want
to let me go because they could feel the
energy it's like a euphoric feeling like
they could feel the love coming off of
me and they're just holding on while I'm
like in a trance screaming the top of my
lungs in this dude's house and he I he
didn't know whether you know if you
thought the neighbors was gonna call the
cops because I'm like like 10:00 at
night 10:00 11:00 at night you know you
got neighbors and stuff and uh I know
I've had those encounters you know and
you can feel that around people you know
you can feel the stuff that they're
going through we're talking about being
able to pick up being empathic you know
and feel feel that stuff in your body
and it could be overwhelming
I remember going I remember early on
going into a room for prayer at a church
we're gonna do pre-service prayer I was
a teenager man going into the youth
group room and there was a lady around
the corner I didn't know she was in
there but as we go into the room we all
felt this spirit of heaviness come upon
us and we kind of got depressed it was
like man was we're having fun we walk in
this room and we just downtrodden what's
going on man and it was a lady around
the corner who was in there weeping and
sobbing because her husband was cheating
on her and left her and as we came close
to her in that same room we'd even see
her but we felt the energy we felt the
depression we felt the betrayal as she
was going through so it's one thing just
to feel it and walk off and talk about
it but it's you have to know what to do
it's okay let's let's minister
forgiveness let's minister healing to
speak words of encouragement over her
let's let her know that God loves her he
still has a plan for you know these
things and we did and we seen her
countenance changed when we laid hands
on her and pray
and spoke those words of healing and
that's what it's about it's not just
about and that's what we're teaching
people not to just to go to Walmart and
feel the energies and like let me get
out of here I need to get out of here I
need you got here let me get my bread
and milk and get out here right that's
what people are doing but it's like to
be able to go in there it's okay
somebody in here is dealing with back
pain somebody is in here is needs a
financial miracle in their life God
speak to me tell me who it is and let me
be their miracle today whatever it may
be just just who needs you to is there
somebody here who needs me to tell them
that you love them like something simple
practical right you don't have to be
this big awesome crazy thing but it
turns into that if you go out into the
marketplace and do that and get used to
it and learn how to balance the energies
and when God's speaking and who to
approach and stuff it gets very
interesting but that's what it's about
you can feel it in your body and and
your emotions and you're tied into it
but if you don't you'll think that this
is an attack this is a psychic attack
I'm going crazy people are talking about
me why am I getting mad you know and you
start freaking out until you learn how
to balance the energies and indeed start
seeing miracles and then you start
knowing that when you're driving to a
city and you feel a certain type of way
I hold on this is the Holy Spirit trying
to tell me something what's going on
I've been doing that week I was booked
at a show years ago when I was doing
church shows and we drove out of town to
go to this church to perform and before
we got there I felt like I was having a
heart attack like like just a few miles
outside the city I felt like my heart
was breaking but I thought that it was
in the demonic attack I'm praying
against it God please take this away
from me heal my body whatever you're
trying to do the work the end would work
because you think it's an attack from a
demon or the devil or whatever but then
you pray you like you know what God's
like I'm letting you feel what you're
gonna come up against there's a lot of
people who are here who are
brokenhearted and they're brokenhearted
and I want you to minister healing and
forgiveness to the brokenhearted and
then there's scriptures that talk about
the broken heart and things like that I
would get refreshed on and I did
from the stage we speak out on it in a
public platform and scene healing come
and you have to be sensitive to that
stuff because you cannot you know you
could do anything you can say well I'm I
gotta go to a hospital I feel like I'm
having a heart attack
I you know I'm gonna cancel it or
whatever but when you find out when you
become sensitive as being empathic you
find out what to do and a lot of it's
not just us you know it's a lot of
people who are experiencing this stuff
and when we talk about this stuff openly
it builds encouragement but it builds it
lets people know that they can step out
and and have these encounters as well
and not to just hold it in you know and
that's beautiful when people start doing
it man maybe looks lonely the grocery
store just joke around with people just
someone I feel like as we you know open
our hearts more we'll just feel the
world as family people out in public I
mean we are family
yeah yep
well spirituality the flower of life
really positive symbol teaches us that
we're all connected
you know I am another you you are
another me and we are God experiencing
itself do everyone and we are like
everyone is an expression of ourselves
and people who cross the lines or people
who trigger us you know there's things
in us that trigger that we need to learn
from it and to grow from but everyone we
have compassion for people especially
when we've been there right those people
who are lashing out
you're not moved to judgment you're not
moved to name-calling and accusation you
move to a place of I understand why
you're doing this you know because I've
been there and I feel for you because
I've been there and I'm gonna show you
grace because when I was there I needed
people to show me grace I needed people
not to give up on me you know I needed
someone to love me when I was unlovable
those type of things
and and you start to see how it works
and we're all connected so you can
decide it shows you why you can feel the
energies you can feel when somebody's
going through something because
essentially you're going through it
right you know even though the kid in
high school I just want to talk to
people who no one seemed to acknowledge
just want to be friends with the people
who have had all the friends you know I
just always wanted to help those because
you can almost feel a deeper connection
and then anyway yeah that's a there's a
bunch of people here in the comment
section saying um I see Christina
Pollard says I've cried because of the
energies and emotions being able to feel
it Brennan says I was at my great
grandfather's funeral last weekend and
had a few tears but when I hugged my
great-grandmother I felt her broken
heart and uncontrollably started weeping
it was a crazy experience oh yeah
being able to hug somebody in that
transfer and you weep with them and for
them the Bible talks about that weeping
for somebody and being there and just
releasing it with them I've done it on
many occasions and it's very freeing
you know sometimes that's the only way
those emotions will leave and that
energy leave is to cry it out to weep it
out you know and um so yes uh the big
boy seven-one-seven says can y'all talk
all day please lol it's also when you
know that you're not falling upon deaf
ears that people enjoy the conversation
that they that they're getting something
from it so we can't talk all day but
there is an archive of shows that you
can go back and listen to that I've done
and Leslie has a bunch of stuff on her
website too let's go ahead and plug your
website and your work and what you're
doing you got a bunch of really cool
videos a lot of information on your
website go ahead
plug that stuff and if people want to
contact you and uh and book a session or
appointment with you how they can do
that the process watch the videos where
the energy is demonstrated and I can you
know some people don't want me to call
upon Jesus so I will I'm respectful you
just want my own energy which I was born
with but you know you know worked on and
grown and that helps to you body the
physical problems emotional problems
stored emotions that's created trauma
and I mean it's just a range of things
but yet it also helps to raise your
energy open your heart of and really
start to live this massive love and just
attract so much good and heaven on earth
literally just the more this love and
energy and source consciousness that we
stream you know I just really hope to
assist in that process and just miracle
will just start happening you barely
even have to try it's just just good
done it just keeps rolling here just
just grows and grows and I just yeah I'm
just here to assist in that I'm here
thank you for showing up thank you for
doing what you're doing thank you for
coming on hanging out with me on this
podcast there's a lot of people who have
been watching this live they're saying
yet again another great show enjoyed it
immensely that's a binary Watcher said
that big boy also says I subscribed on
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out you work already so thank you for
coming on hanging out with me I really
enjoyed this conversation we'll have to
do it again sometime soon I will talk to
you later thank you so much Leslie
luminaire or lumen are I think that's
how we pronounce it lumen are yeah great
show another great show will respond to
one of these comments
so we started speaking about sin a while
ago we're talking about Adam and talking
about people say sin is missing the mark
so Christi shared a scripture that says
sin is a transgression of the law
totally 100 percent there's another
scripture too I think it's really
interesting Romans 14:23 that says that
whatsoever is not of faith is sin as
well that's an interesting concept to
bring to the table that they're doing
things outside of faith in God or a
belief that it's okay
is a sin because essentially it becomes
a sin to you like we're doing stuff that
other people can't do others
may you cannot and we could do we could
talk about anything like we could talk
about something as small as drinking
coffee to a naturalist or purists who
that's a sin to put anything foreign in
your body there are sects of
Christianity's that think that's a sin
listening to the certain music listening
to my music
some Christians will tell you it's a sin
you can't listen to true seekers music
stay away from it or secular music I was
listening to some I listened to some a
lot of 90s alternative and a lot of 90s
metal I just loved music from the 90s
and like I said earlier 70s and 80s and
they say that's that's a sin you can't
listen to anything if it's not Christian
music so whatsoever is done out of faith
and it's talking about partaking of food
some people will say here we go with
food some people say that eating eating
meat is a sin the law talks about eating
clean and unclean meats as being a sin
kosher and a nun kosher and this is this
is from a Jewish perspective right I ate
kosher for about eight years
quit doing all the pagan holidays and
all that kind of stuff and started
partaking of the biblical feasts and
holidays and and they're they're very
beautiful but guess what somebody's
these pagan holidays if that's what you
want to call them are very beautiful too
and I call them Christian holidays and I
think we call them Christian holidays I
think they're pretty beautiful too
Halloween's fun you know what I'm saying
but that was a lot I came a long way to
where it wasn't a sin for me anymore to
do Halloween now talked about this
immensely in the past that like I said
eight years we withdrew we didn't do
Christmas we didn't do none of that and
it finally reaching these different
levels and spirituality where it was
okay
that I understood that like I was
attracted to the spirit of Christmas
like the spirit that's in the air of
love and of expectation everybody's just
giddy man out is just so beautiful we're
talking about being moved with love and
being able to feel that Christmastime
man I long for that right I want that to
be every day man so but I was in a place
where it was a sin to do Christmas right
you know I believe that that was my
belief system I lost a lot of friends
because I was vocal about it I would
condemn people who did Christmas I would
condemn people I don't think I would
condemn people who ate pork but I'll let
them know that it was a sin put it that
way I didn't condemn him but I let him
know that that it was a sin and I lost
friends by doing that you know so it's
more of of so you can see how conviction
changes from person to person like for
one person it's okay for them the pork
for another they can't I don't know if
it's debatable about what is sin when it
comes to like a biblical perspective
because you said you know sin is a
transgression of the law so there's so
many things in those in those laws that
became a sin but sin is the issue of the
heart one that we could say that sin is
the law is put there we will talk about
the law just for a minute
the law is put there to show you I'm
telling you man this just I got out of
so much bondage we're not fully
understood this the law is to show us
that laws are like physical
representations of spiritual problems
that were going through it's like they
had to be told not you had to be told
not to steal right you had to be told
not to sleep with your neighbor's wife
you had to be told not to
you know all of these things or whatever
that made you unclean for the evening or
what not to do they had to be told rules
and regulations touch not taste not the
New Covenant talks about that God would
write the laws upon our hearts and
that's what we're in now like I really
believe like these people didn't know
whether they were more primitive or what
I really believe that these people
didn't know and it had to be told hey
don't covet your neighbor's wife like
for us we have the law written on our
heart it talks about in Romans that that
by nature we can do the things written
up in the law and we're keeping the law
unto ourselves because we're just doing
it by nature right we're doing the
things that we know we shouldn't do when
you steal something or you stole
something when you as a kid did did you
have somebody have to tell you that you
were doing something wrong
I remember stealing a pack of bubblegum
and I'm getting in the backseat and
laying down and hiding it from my mom I
tried to open it in and sit in the car I
was laying in the back of the car I'm
trying to open they're trying to be real
quiet so you couldn't hear it tear and
say wait would you why would you god I'm
like four or five years old laying in
the back and I knew I did something what
once was have it and it wasn't about
cultural training or society bringing me
up I knew deep down within that dad
didn't belong to me and I took it I knew
I stole that so that's the law being
written on our heart these people I
don't believe that that they knew they
had to have written laws and say hey do
not steal okay it says don't steal I
shouldn't steal okay don't cheat on my
wife I would like why would you covet
your neighbor's wife when you already
have a wife like that should that should
be something by conviction by your
conscious testifying and the conscious
that's how God speaks to you through
your conscious the Holy Spirit you
shouldn't be told hey don't cheat on
your wife hey don't do this don't do
that so the law was like these physical
representations of these people being
told not to do something but love that's
what Jesus says love is the fulfillment
of the law and you walking in love
towards your entire sea tired family
humanity your neighbors he said love the
Lord your God with all your heart and
love your neighbors by yourself he says
these two
love you here was add yourself these two
Commandments I give you the new
commandment she said I give you these if
you do these two you've done the whole
law you've kept the whole law all the
law and the prophets hang on these two
because it was all about love it tuns
like almost even if you want to look at
it's like allegorical just stories about
how to love and what not to do and how
not to mess over somebody and how not to
some of the basic stuff the Ten
Commandments you know I'm saying still
bear fought with bear false witness
right why would you lie you have to be
told not to lie like you you know that
your your what you're doing is not right
love is the fulfillment of the law
neighbor self God yep and it also says
in that and the new in the New Covenant
that you wouldn't have to tell anybody
about God that everybody would know God
you have that conscious within you oh
that's not true we have to go out and
evangelize and stuff everybody knows God
man it's descriptions that you can go to
you you should be able to go to the
ocean and see God me I go I stargaze on
my old man this is an immense I feel so
small something so big is out there
right it may not be your revelation
maybe you haven't stargaze for hours on
end maybe you haven't seen that maybe
haven't been to the ocean and shut your
eyes and just meditate it and breathe in
the prana the Holy Spirit and just set
in a place of Thanksgiving it's
different for everybody is what I'm
saying
and I don't think I don't think
anybody's wrong in their mind that's
legit for them and it works for them and
they're and they're right so I don't
think that you're wrong of your
revelation of God but I think it's your
revelation I think that that can evolve
and that can change and and maybe some
things that should be changed about your
revelation if god is a god that's ready
to punish you and into a correct chew
and things like that there's a you know
it's it's about love and so love is the
fulfillment of the law and in the New
Testament goes in this layers and layers
and layers of how to keep the law by
walking in love so if you walk in love
you keep the entire law
you will not change uh transgressed the
law okay well what about pork and what
about your your body and stuff like that
here we go it's all about love if you
love your body you will not potat the
stuff that's unclean in the scriptures
it's not cus like do's and don'ts in
these weird regulations like it meant
something like pigs are garbage
disposals let's just be clear they were
created for a purpose they eat things
that nothing else can eat not just pigs
but buzzards catfish bottom feeders it's
stuff that eat they eat other people's
waste catfish eats the waste off the
bottom of the river banks pigs they'll
eat anything you throw in there and so
these are some of the things that our
buzzards eat clean up dead animals off
the side of the road they have acid in
their stomach that helps them not to get
sick for one that you would get sick if
you ate it but to be able to decompose
that stuff so if you love your body you
understand that hey me not eating pork
would be a good thing to do because I'm
walking in love towards my body and a
lot of vegetarians I think they
understand this they won't make this
connection here but they love animals
and and things like that's what that
they don't want to kill animals because
they love them so it's about walking in
love towards all creation so the whole
thing with kosher if you love your body
you will put the right things in there
because you love your body your body is
a temple of the Holy Spirit right so
these are the things that we're putting
in our body and so you know the pigs
they they have no sweat glands like a
pig can eat a dead animal and feces and
all this stuff and it stays in their
skin it goes into their skin see us if
we get a fever if we eat something bad
and we get food poison or whatever we
take a hot shower we go out and sweat
and we'll sweat the infection out we'll
sweat the sickness out a pig can't do
that
it gets embedded in their skin when you
talks about you are what you eat right
legit but it goes even deeper you are
what you eat ate so it comes out like
you get sick from the things eat
everything could be solved with what you
put in would you put in your stomach
when you go to the to the doctor what
they're gonna give you something to
ingest something to put in your stomach
you could change your you gut bacteria
but change your diet and it changes the
way you think it changes the way your
body operates and stuff so even in
looking at those laws and I'm not
telling you to do it or not do it or
whatever I'm just explaining it looking
at that it's showing love like all of it
is about love love your body love your
wife your neighbor your children honor
your neighbors by not stealing from them
you know I'm saying all of the stuff is
had to be told to do and not to do
within the law I really think these
people were a little bit more primitive
and they didn't know that maybe they
didn't have the New Covenant which is in
Christ that talks about how the New
Covenant would be then nobody would have
to tell you of God that your conscious
would bear witness of God there had to
be a disconnect nobody has to tell you
not to lie nobody tells you has to tell
you not to cheat or not to steal or not
to kill not to destroy you know all of
these things so that's what the law the
scripture also tells us that the law is
spiritual right the law is spiritual but
you are carnal the law shows us that we
need Christ the law shows us that hey we
we messed up you know we need when we
have been doing things the wrong way and
there's a way to do it and so we fulfill
the law in Christ because he has come to
fulfill the law so in Christ which is
love Christ is love right we're talking
about love crisis love made manifest
into a person if love put on a meat suit
and came and dwelt among men he says God
is love love keeps no records of wrong
love does not bear false witness against
the neighbor all of these things all of
these promises it's about love man and
I'm telling you you keep the law you'll
bring forth healing it's about love
that's what it's about people get mad
when we say that because
they want rules and regulations they
want that's too easy
Joel Osteen talks about love you think
that's the right way like I've trust me
I've heard these things that people they
want it to be a little bit more
complicated or they want to feel like
they're doing something that the next
man isn't and we were talking about
keeping the law we're talking about like
trying to do the feast days or the
Sabbath or not eating pork people want
to feel like they're doing something
that the next man isn't like I'm doing
something that my pagan neighbor isn't
that makes me holy you can't be you
can't do anything to be made holy you're
holy because of what Jesus did of the
love that he has shed abroad towards you
he makes you holy he makes you set apart
it's not like you could do something
that makes you makes you more loveable
you didn't do anything to earn it grace
is a free gift given to everyone
everyone everyone is entitled to it
it's freely given freely received freely
give so that's what's up so I wanted to
just kind of go into go into a little
bit of background on the law or my
relationship with the law and a
revelation that I have got over the
years and I'm say I'm coming from
somebody who was I withdrew from
everything didn't eat pork didn't need
catfish shrimp and all that stuff for
years you know for a certain reason just
to understand the the nature of the law
and Jesus explains it perfectly that the
law is fulfilled in him and that walking
in love the highest form of love
fulfills the law for love is the
fulfillment of the law it's really
beautiful it's beautiful it shouldn't be
what it says the law is not strenuous
the law is not something that you should
have to like or as my laws and
commandments are not Grievous like it's
Grievous to be able to touch not and
taste 9 and when in wonder and worry if
you're offending God or offending people
or whatever walking in love man you put
it you put others higher than yourself
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