God Is Talking, Are You Listening? | James Robor

God Is Talking, Are You Listening? | James Robor
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that God speaks to us and I think what
we'll probably get to to sum everything
up is that God has been speaking the
whole time it's not about what we can do
to get him to start speaking but God is
speaking so we're gonna go through some
of the ways that we can quiet down and
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in our guests for today this is James
rhobar James welcome to the show brother
how are you I'm good man thanks for
having me I'm really excited about
coming on your show today yeah your book
very interesting I got a chance to
breeze through some of it um the the
title in itself of it entitled this show
God is talking are you listening
I mean there's a that that in itself we
can unpack a lot of questions and we're
going to I'm gonna ask you some
questions I've got some stuff even I'll
written down here that I want to go into
God is talking are you listening but
before we get into the subject matter
let's just give the listeners a little
bit of background about who you are what
you do and where you come from if you
don't mind
sure so I've put all my social profiles
that I'm first the son of God that's
first and foremost
that's the known who you are and then
I'm a father and a husband second and so
that comes before anything and
everything else I do and then besides
I'm a minister I'm a Christian author
and also you can say I'm an aspiring
entrepreneur I'm kind of working on some
business things on the side so I got a
lot of different things going on
I'm originally from Indianapolis Indiana
and excuse me my voice just a little
weak today sorry about that but anyway
about well back in 2004 I met my wife
who's from Finland I was actually in the
Army as a chaplain assistant I was
serving over there on the Defense
Language Institute in Monterey
California and so I met my finished wife
actually in a Bible study there and we
decided to you know get married and live
our life together and so I came here to
Finland
actually I live in Finland Wow and I
don't know if I told you that I didn't
know yeah so it's so nice interesting a
surprise maybe so uh I'm actually seven
hours ahead of you're actually made
hours so yeah I live in Finland I've
been here since 2004 in December 2004
and we got three kids together and not
too long after when I came here we
actually started a ministry together
here that we've been doing for pretty
much most of time I've been here it's
called Kingdom glory ministries and so
we've been doing a lot of different
events mostly small but some of a little
bit larger I don't know if you heard of
David Tom Berlin from Lakeland revival
we hosted him here for the revival tour
some time ago and we just done different
stuff prayer meetings a lot of different
things but I've been preaching since I
was 18 years old I went out right out of
high school I started preaching and I've
been pretty much to ministry some level
of some capacity ever since so that's
like a real quick summary the last 25
years so I have a quick question man
like what is the culture like as far as
church culture is it very similar to the
u.s. I mean is you know what's what's
the differences or if there's any I know
the condition of the human heart is the
same wherever you go but Church culture
and the way things operate is it pretty
much similar well first of all you have
to understand the the country in itself
it's only about five million people so
it's much much smaller and that
definitely affects things you know if
you goes with some little island versus
you go to New York City yeah in terms of
the country it's a small country and and
then also that this the people in
general are a bit more quiet and just in
general so you definitely see that in
the churches you know the services are
more quiet and the people are a little
more reserved and and and then they've
talked about terms of like
charismatic churches you know we're holy
spirits like really moving I would say
less than 2% of the population when
following the net so you're a real
minority in terms of a kind of holy
spirit now there are some couple larger
organizations there's the Pentecostal
Church of Finland and then there's the
Free Church and there's a few others and
but I would say that there's been some
lost you know you almost kind of see it
a little bit in the Methodist movement
you know the Methodists
start out is the premier movement of its
time but you I don't know if you
necessarily would say that nowadays you
know so there's some of that here but
actually I have a Facebook group called
God is in Finland and one of the things
I like to say is that God is in Finland
and no matter where you go God is there
it doesn't matter what everybody else is
doing God is there and I like to focus
on that and and there are definitely
some good churches here for sure there's
definitely a community of believers and
there's actually quite a lot of
opportunity really spiritually I mean
there's a lot of people coming here to
Finland from the states you got people
from Bethel just all kind of people
coming here mission trips and stuff so
overall it's good yeah hey James your
mics cutting in and out a little bit I
don't know if it's a move in or the cord
or anything like that but uh sometimes
it'll be good and other times it's going
in and out but yeah man that's awesome
bro because the cool thing about God
hearing God working with God following
God is that you know we want numbers
like we want you know I'm saying the
more the merrier but it says where two
or three are gathered there I am in the
midst of them so if you was to do a
prayer meeting or an event you can have
a powerful encounter with God with just
you and to other people I mean you can
have a
for time by yourself but when two or
three are gathered there I am in the
midst this what he says and some of the
most powerful times have been with
really close brothers so we can just
open up with and can and in confess and
and stuff and I've been able to get
things out that we've been holding in or
we can pursue God together in a
righteous pursuit that we don't get any
kudos or pat on the back for being in a
social environment we're just here with
one mission at hand which is to seek the
face of God and to push to pray until
something happens and some of those
beautiful and encounters men have been
two or three people gathered and it have
shaped a foundation of my life and and
in and why I'm doing what I do that's
the beautiful thing about God and having
an encounter we talk to a lot of
different people from different
spiritual backgrounds and I mean I've
talked to people who you know have
traveled to Peru and ayahuasca and
traveled you know to have those
encounters and you know all of that
stuff is is good for the person wherever
they are I'm not against any of that but
it comes back to the simplicity that I
don't need anything that I can just be
in my room and make time to pray get
with God in meditation and in prayer and
he'll speak to my heart um I've had
encounters just with Jesus man where I'm
vibrating and shaking for days I feel
the glory all over my body for this you
know and that's the beautiful thing that
we don't need anything outside of
ourselves
that God has given us everything that we
need that we are the temple that we can
go in and commune with our Father in the
Holy of Holies are going within and
prayer so that's the beautiful thing
about what we're doing we don't have to
force anything what I have to making
anything up but uh teaching people to
hear the voice of God say what do you do
after the encounter how do we walk it
out how do we follow these encounters so
that's a good thing man I want to kind
of kind of jump into some of these
questions for you and I want to start
off with your promo like you did a promo
for your book with you you got you got
like I said you got a book by the same
title as this show God is talking are
you listening so you did a promo and it
was really cool because you could you go
on on YouTube and you have the video on
you it's just like a cell phone video
and you
like you got the microwave on there's
stuff going on in the background you got
a basketball game on turned up really
loud and you're coming with the message
hey I want to talk to you today I got
something to share with you in the
background it's going crazy there's
noises in the basketball game and
chanting in the crowd and stuff you say
hey I got a really important message for
you you're trying to deliver this
message and you want to talk to the
viewer but it's something on your heart
you want to share but they can't really
hear you that well they can hear you but
they hear everything else as well so and
you turn off the microwave you turn off
the TV and you give this perfect analogy
of how the voice of God is trying to
communicate a very special message with
us at all times
but we have all of this stuff going on
we got the TV we got the games we got
life we got the bills sometimes the
bills are louder than God you know all
of these things speaking at the same
time then it's when we begin to turn off
these little things and get in the the
stillness or the quiet that were able to
actually make sense and see what God's
trying to say to us man so that was an
awesome promo you did if you want to
unpack that a little bit more that'd be
awesome
well that's kind of cool to get the
feedback from that how's my mic no
you're good yeah okay yeah I was kind of
wondering cuz that was a little
different you really see promos like
that too much you know but I just like
you know I need to do something you know
and I just I just had that idea and I I
think it does kind of illustrate that
but really the main point of the whole
book and the microphone stuff yeah you
get so the main point of the whole book
and actually why the whole book was ever
written was really that point right
there see what happened was ISM I was
going through a season like many people
I say probably everybody does in their
life sometimes were you kind of
wondering where's God and why don't hear
and how come he's not talking to me you
know and so I was in a church meeting
and I was kind of feeling like this and
God just kind of reached out to me and
he spoke to me and he said it's not my
response
to make it abundantly clear to you and
what I got from that it took me a while
to understand what he meant by that and
what I understood was is it's like it's
not guys responsibility to turn the
microwave off it's not his
responsibility to go turn the TV off if
I'm doing something to block his voice
that's not his responsibility to turn
those things off that's my
responsibility to quiet the noises so
that I can hear him because the thing
about God is when he talks he speaks
clearly God God is not the author of
confusion so he doesn't have to change
something that he said because it was
confusing and now he needs to make it
more clear to you when he speaks he
speaks clearly and if it's not clear to
you it doesn't mean that he didn't speak
clearly it just means that you need to
do something so that you can understand
him
that's why Jesus spoke in parables
because he only the people who had a
relationship with him would understand
him but those who did have relationship
with him would understand him you see
and so you can't understand like God's
voice if you're not in the word because
when he talks it won't make sense to you
but if you're in the word every day when
he talks to you it's gonna make sense to
you so I just got the message from God
like hey you know I'm talking you know
but are you listening you know so and I
just got the inspiration to write this
book and you know it's been a really
great journey for me I mean I already
knew a lot about the prophetic and
hearing God's voice but going in and
studying it and trying to present the
information in a simple clear way that's
somebody who didn't know anything about
hearing God's voice that they can take
my book and by the end of the book they
would have at least the basic
understanding how to hear God's voice
and why there
hearing his voice that was my goal for
this book and then that's why I wrote
the book because I wasn't hearing God's
voice and God's told me what I need to
do I can start again hearing his voice
yeah and yeah and something like that is
uh it's universal for all believers and
I think there's something some outline
and things like that in the scripture
for me when it comes to that like I'm
really good at multitasking or I like to
think I am doing multiple things at once
and I can I'll go all of this stuff
right but when it when it comes down to
the relationship with God in the
communication process I really look at
it like the relationship with the spouse
I mean we're even the Bride of Christ
and so this this relationship like
you're in a relationship with a human
right I mean why would you do it any
differently so if you honor a
relationship with a partner or a friend
I mean being able to multitask like my
wife will be talking to me and I'll have
the radio on and I'd be in the middle of
a phone call and I'm talking to my wife
at the same time but I can do it and I
feel like I'm good and I can get the
message but it's part of that
relationship it's like she's like turn
turn that down I'll talk to you when
you're off the phone like I want your
undivided attention like you know what
I'm saying so it's part of that of
honoring God or being able to listen to
clearly hear because even though I'm I
think I'm good at it I'm gonna only hang
on to the pieces that I want to hear you
know what I'm saying and it's gonna be a
little bit distorted because my friends
in my ear and I'm listening there's a
lyric and I'm trying to have this
conversation and that's how we most of
us approach our relationship with God is
that we're trying to juggle all these
things and it even opens up the door for
like you don't say meditation for me
that the topic of that because I really
feel like approaching God I think we're
supposed to get it you know stop
thinking about the cares of the day or
what we're gonna eat tonight and all of
these things and so like in a practice
of meditation and prayer what the father
or going into worship or anything like
that
I'm really keen on emptying out my
thoughts and getting all those things
out some in it it's debatable in
Christian circles are like oh if you
empty out your thoughts you open up
yourself for possession I've heard
people say that but if we're having a
conversation out if I'm what I want to
talk to you I want I want to have your
undivided attention as well I don't you
know if you're you're thinking about
what you're doing tomorrow or what
you're gonna eat this evening or
whatever I don't really have you there
so to get all of that stuff out the way
and I think it's a level of intimacy to
really focus on God and hear what God
has to say for us like I said it's
parallel with our relationships with our
spouses and friends you know not and it
said that prayer is when we talk to God
right but meditation is when God talks
to us it is a conversation it's a
two-way street most of us will go to God
and we'll present him with all of our
worries in our baggage and hey we pray
for our friends who's going through a
rough time and then that's it and
they're done but the most powerful times
I'm talking about those encounters that
I've had with Jesus man eat with friends
and small communities there's this place
where after you pray after you worship
after you get in where you sit in
silence just for a few minutes and I've
seen powerful things happen well there
are some message that comes forth in
tongues but it's like okay we've done
our thing let's just be quiet let's just
tarry and in our mind we can't have dead
air like having a podcast or radio show
dad-dad air is not good but in in that
sense of this communication with God you
have to be still and know that I am God
to sit in silence and let God speak man
and I've seen the power of God just just
let him do his thing
be quiet for a minute I know you I know
you could do it I know you're eloquent I
know you got the words I know you know
how to lead a service and direct the
traffic of the Spirit or whatever but
just be quiet and and see what happens
man and like like a tornado man like
almighty a mighty rushing wind as the
scripture says man comes through and God
comes to and moves on
people's hearts man it changes lives in
silence so that's beautiful brother amen
I totally agree that that we have to
quiet ourselves and but you know one of
the things I talk about the book too is
God speaks in many ways and you don't
necessarily have to be quiet and that's
one of the things I talk about is to
look for his voice everywhere you go so
when you're watching a movie when you're
listening to a song and you're talking
to a friend when you're just walking to
the forest like you will hear him more
clearly what I think is that you will
hear him more often than the other times
of the day the more you take that quiet
time to be with him you say so when you
develop that relationship then you will
hear him you hear me I can hear you just
maybe tap the mic or something that's
yeah and I can hear you and on the
podcast and I can do some editing but uh
we can still hear you Mike so how are
you good it's it's weird it's doing this
weird like equalizing and like noise
gate or something you don't have no
noise gate or any effects on it do you I
can hear you good now it just kind of
goes back in and out but I'll be able to
do some editing in the end so we could
just keep going yeah man that's that's
powerful too you know and I've got that
written down because I did I did hear
you say that about God speaking through
everything right
and you give the analogies throughout
the scripture I mean man there's just so
many about God speaking through symbols
speaking through stories you know I
believe that you know the majority of
the stories in the Old Testament are
are encoded with something for us you
know that we can apply to our lives and
that's God speaking through the word and
through analogy and to parable and
things like that through in David and
and you know facing your giants in you
know as movies titled out facing your
Giants and how to do that I think King
David is a perfect example of that story
of how we base our fears you know and
the things that looks like there's no
way we can we can overcome you know and
in the same steps and things that he did
to stand against this Giants we can do
as well but but talking about that like
God speaking through movies that's a big
one music nature you know movies is a
big one like once you are awakened what
you feel with the Holy Spirit like it's
kind of hard to watch movies the same
way again I remember and it gets into
some weird deep stuff but I'll when we
watch movies the majority of the times
I'm watching a different movie than
everybody around me like the
relationship I have a guy like he starts
naming people in the movie like a
character will come and he'll give me
insight about who that is in my life or
something right and it is just it's
crazy man like okay this is the Holy
Spirit this is you and this fight in
battle is like when you fight the Holy
Spirit and I'm like in these idols and
things that you're trying to keep from
God because you want your will and like
I've been able to watch movies man and
and it's just I'm watching a different
I'll be fighting holding back tears
because we're able to hear God speaking
through everything and he's like changes
the whole narrative and uses everything
to speak to us and so it comes up it
comes up a whole deeper level and even
if you would break that down for people
like even synchronicities and stuff like
that it may not have as much power for
them but it's a really a personable
thing where it means something for you
in that season whatever you're going
through god knows it and if it's just
that if you're trying to run from God
and he's using a movie there's no way
you can go to get away from his presence
that he loves you and he'll chase you
down and I mean you know for that
relationship if I can't have you no one
else can
ideal you know um but I think a lot of
people on here like to hear about
experiences the personal encounters with
God what are some of the ways that God
has spoken to your heart through movies
if you have any examples or whatever
that'd be awesome to watch sure so it's
like there's a lot of different movies
I've really touched me I'm trying to
think of the name of this one movie
about this guy who was a abandoned as a
child and he when he grew up he he was
in the Navy and in Denzel Washington was
in the movie I'm trying to think of the
name of it and he had these problems and
the Navy his behavior problems and he
went to counseling and and then he
eventually went and searched out his
biological parents and that really
touched me because uh my my parents
divorced when I was nine and uh when I
was nine my father told me I wasn't
really his son and I had always thought
he was so like kind of kinetic related
with that and the same message they came
in the movie I felt like I was giving me
the same essence you know yeah so I
think that you can't underestimate God's
ability to reach across anything the the
point I especially want want to make
about this is that when people are not
listening to God and when they're not
taking the time to be quiet to hear his
voice and if God truly wants to speak to
them then what he basically has to do is
he has to go where they are and he has
to speak through what they're listening
to so if they're on their phones he has
to speak to them through their phone if
they're watching movies he has to speak
to them through their movies you see God
God will use anything anybody anyone
anyway you know I mean think about all
that he did for us you know
Jesus did
for us you know to provide us eternal
salvation so for him to speak for a
movie is like nothing for him that's for
us it's may seem like a big deal it's
like well God touched me actually even
in sports there's certain Sport figures
like Michael Jordan really inspired me
like like his motivation and his will to
not give up you know I think God used
that I think God taught me important
life lessons through the people that I
admired as a young man God used them to
help build a foundation in me you see so
sometimes God speaks in direct word or
sometimes God is doing something in your
life and it's it's like a life message
just like something that it's not it
doesn't come for a few words it comes
through something that God is doing in
your life and when it's all said and
done there's a message that comes out of
that you see and so God is talking that
he's talking in many different kind of
ways and I think that that's one of the
big points that I try to make is you
hear a lot of teaching about being quiet
but if that's the only time you hear
from God if the only time you hear from
God is when it's quiet yeah no yeah
definitely man any any time that you try
to put a you create a formula I mean
there there are formulas I believe but
anything we say like this is it if you
want to hear God this is the only way
like he'll be he'll blow your mind
right he speaks through everything you
say speaks through nature he speaks
through friends music movies and things
like that the thing about the silence
though I think is good for us in this
culture is the fact that everybody's so
busy you know I have friends and and
people who talk about like they don't do
was a quiet time they don't give sit in
silence because they have the notion
that I'm always talking to God I talk to
God to all throughout the day you know
everywhere I'm going I'm always praying
under my breath or in relationship and I
am to like that spot I'm consciously
aware of my relationship with my father
and uh and it's there's beauty in that
but there's something special about the
secret place man is something special
about getting intimate with God where I
could be doing a podcast I could be
writing a song I could be doing laundry
but I'm gonna put this time aside and
spend it with my father
it's almost symbolic for the wedding
chamber with the spouse to go to the
bedroom with the spouse and become
intimate and really know their heart and
and I can multitask and I can have the
conversation with you and I can do this
but to really devote this time I think
it's something special man I really I
really do think it's something special
there so it's a little bit of all of it
it's not just you know the this is the
only way or that's the only way I think
it's a little bit of all of it is
learning the way that the ways that God
speaks to us and it becomes a lot more
fun when you're out in public in random
conversations God is speaking to you
through these conversations and through
people and through signs on billboards
and all of this kind of stuff when you
become so sensitive that you can hear
him speaking through everything so I
guess it kind of leads to an another
topic of like do you think that we get
better at hearing God's voice like
there's levels to it and stuff so of
anticipating God's voice and
anticipating God to use us and things
like that do you think that there's
levels and we get better and do we
graduate like can he if we can hear him
speak in here then they'll open up more
opportunities to use us because we can
hear his voice in these different places
that people there can't hear them or
something absolutely everything you're
saying
and I think I would like to you know
restate what I said earlier is that the
more you will hear him in the quiet
place the more you were hearing in a not
quiet place yeah so it's not one or the
other but you definitely need this
secret place absolutely there's no
question about that
and I think that that's where you you
actually where you start is the quiet
place is the secret place I think the
point is is there people are very busy
they don't got three hours a day that
they can be quiet
you know there's busy moms I mean
there's your single moms working two
three jobs yeah I've got four hours to
go to the secret place every day they
got like an hour maybe if they're lucky
so they got to get everything that they
need in that one hour and then after
that whatever else God has for them
they're gonna have to get it when
they're at work when they're doing the
laundry when they're changing the
diapers and the point is is that God
don't have to stop talking to you when
your secret place time means he can keep
on talking to you but absolutely you
need that quiet place that quiet time
absolutely and if they answer your
question are there levels yeah
absolutely there's levels I mean I mean
you got people who don't know anything
about the prophetic just learning then
you got people who they got the basics
down and they're practicing but you know
they hit and miss and that's okay I'm
the first one to tell you to hit in this
because you ain't gonna hit all the time
you know that the greatest batters don't
hit 100% like in base I'm not even a big
baseball fan but I know like if you bat
like thirty percent that's pretty good I
know I'm more of a basketball thing yeah
if you shoot like 55 percent from the
field that's pretty good so you're like
a good basketball player if you shoot 55
percent from the field now a godly can
be get better than 55 percent but anyway
I think a lot of people are afraid you
know to miss they're afraid to get it
wrong you know I think
that's unfortunate because there's a lot
of perfectionism in the world and
there's a lot of things that you can get
perfect but trying to figure out God is
it's a lifelong journey it's a process
and sometimes you your honor
and sometimes you're not but I think
there definitely are levels and I think
that it's just like anything else that
the more you work at it and where you
study about it the more you listen to
other people talking about it I mean I
have found for myself that the more just
I listen to prophetic teaching the more
I go to prophetic meetings that the more
meetings that I watch where the the
culture is prophetic so it's not just
getting to a level and then you're there
it's also about cultivating it yeah
because in reality it's really God
speaking through you if you're
prophesying someone it's something that
God is doing through you so it's
actually not really he doing it you're
just the channel that he's doing it
through and so all you have to do is
just release yourself in yield to him
which you know it's easier said and done
but but I think that is something that's
worth pursuing for sure and I think that
it's it's something that we can admire
in those prophets those people who have
went to those higher levels you know we
can appreciate what they've done because
they sacrifice together and we can learn
from them you know yeah that's a good
thing too man it's just not to be I'm
descending about it because we would
think that everybody like okay if you
want it do it three hours a day you know
what I'm saying everybody could do it
but you're right man the fact of the
matter is everybody can't do it and they
rely on
people who do and that's not a bad thing
you know what I'm saying it for I'm I'm
more along it's I have to remind myself
this because I'm like okay well I'm
nothing special what I do you can do
whoever wants it whatever you want you
can do it if it's within you and you
want to cultivate that relationship and
be so sensitive to the Holy Spirit and
receive messages and all of this kind of
stuff anybody can do it it's true but
like you said it's not everybody's
calling to spend that much time like
those people somebody some people's
calling is to be a mother who's spending
hours a day with with the children I
mean I look I've had people in the past
say stuff about my wife or whatever like
he's not as spiritual as you or she's
not on the same level if my wife was
doing what I did and in in spending as
much time doing this stuff you know
nobody would be with my daughter to do
her homework you know did the chores and
things like that that she does she
complements what I do you know what I'm
saying so it's how all of this stuff
works together with complementing one
another and so that the years in the
study you know it is not a bragging
right thing you know what I'm saying
um it does take years the anointing does
cost and everybody's not going to pay
that price maybe they're not called to
pay that price but to really show up in
the role that you play in their life
whatever that may be whatever you can
impart whatever you can share or
encourage them in their walk but the
truth is I don't think we are special I
think I think we are special everyone's
special but I don't think it's something
that that nobody else can obtain I think
that what the levels were talking about
are for everybody there's some people or
profits or spiritualist who would say
that you know it's only for a chosen few
and you have to you have to be chosen by
God that's true but the chosen by God is
an inward calling I think you know it
you know what I'm saying I think that
you know your role I think you know your
calling in your dreams and what God has
placed within you
to show up and to complement people
where they are to help them where they
are whatever level that is it brings it
to a new more fun place because you
don't have to pull them up to your level
you're able to see as a seer someone who
moves in a prophetic to see where they
are and how you can help them maybe get
to a level that you've been that's a
huge thing of us going through the
testing and the trials and hearing God's
voice and not hearing God's voice and
lack of and things like that that were
able to compliment them wherever they
are so that's beautiful to to always be
conscious it's like okay
I mean some people's not gonna do the
work some people are gonna fold under
pressure that's not their calling so to
try to put our calling of being so
sensitive to the prophetic realms on
other people I guess that's a that's
putting burdens on them that they're not
called to you know do I am I making
sense there yeah that's a big one though
I mean that could be the hardest part
because we try to imitate Christ but in
the means we've Church culture we've
been imitated others in the way they do
it and think that that's how we should
do it in things you know and that's the
process you know in my opinion a lot of
teaching in the past Elise has been like
just to do this or just figured that out
and and it's not always quite as simple
as some teachers and preachers make it
sound to be like like knowing who you
are I'm 43 years old I'm still learning
about myself yeah it's not like you can
go read a book and then you know who you
are you go to the conference and then
when you're done I know who I am now
I mean you have to learn who you are not
just I mean even if God told you you
know he wrote it out word by word this
is who you are you would only know it on
paper you see so you wouldn't know who
you are by experience
so I know that I like to play basketball
because I have played basketball right
I've went out there and I've done it and
I've discovered that oh wow when I do
this I enjoy it and it's fun but I had
to go out there and I had to do it and I
had to try it and that was the only way
I ever knew if I would ever like
basketball and if I was ever good at it
and I think that's what a lot of things
you discover something about yourself
you have to learn about you have to
process it and then you have to figure
out how far are you going to go with it
because something I like Mike Murdock
says no if you know teacher Mike Murphy
he says just because you eat a banana I
don't mean you got to buy a banana
plantation right so I don't gotta buy a
whole banana plantation just because
I've bought a banana right so I can do
something I can try something I can
experience something and I don't got to
be married to the thing and I think
that's also true everybody's not and
furthermore I think that everyone that
has a prophetic ministry doesn't
necessarily have to be a prophet exactly
you can be prophetic but not necessarily
have a ministry you can be called to
have a prophetic ministry but not as so
called to be a prophet and then not
everybody is called to be a national
prophet or international prophet you
know there's levels of prophet so where
I'm at in my life I consider myself as a
prophetic teacher teacher teaching as my
gift that's what I enjoy the do as well
I'm gifted to do and I also know
obviously writing a book about God is
talking that that the idea of hearing
God's voice on being around other
prophetic people but that's an important
aspect of me but it's not the biggest
part of me
but it's something that I know will
always be a big part of me and what I do
in my ministry I couldn't imagine myself
being in a ministry I can it's all a lot
of L good so we have a lot of people in
the in the comment section they wanna
they said the mute the movie you were
talking about is Antwone Fisher
yeah Antwone Fisher okay so if anybody
wants to go back and watch that movie
man there's um I want I've talked to
people in the past home sauce is a good
friend of mine he's in the chat talking
about this but I think I've talked to
him about this like wanting to do an
episode where I talked about some of
those movies where you know God is
speaking or they have this really deep
wisdom about hearing the voice of God or
or I mean even some of the deepest of
angels and stuff like that that are
encoded and embedded within these movies
I want to like do an episode where I
talk about it but then again I don't
want to ruin it by the person like part
of the magic is them experiencing
experiencing it for themselves and not
being taught I remember years ago you
might have taken the analogy of the
movie ants and they played it at
church's Pixar movie from like early
2000s or whatever or 90s and all these
ants are marching in a row and they're
carrying stuff food and all this and
then something falls a drop of water
falls in the middle of them and they
stop in the ants watch panic and
freaking out where do I go
what do I do oh my god it's like if some
of you guys went and when adversity
comes and hard times the suffering comes
this is how you act you know what I'm
saying you start freaking out and
wondering wondering where's God and
stuff like that so the teachings and
analogies and stuff man are throughout
everything and I think you do become you
get better at hearing God's voice so you
can do different levels it's it's
communication man like a like a friend
he's obstacle stick with you closer than
a brother up you know he's like a best
friend and he I think he wants to hear
about your day I think he wants to know
about the inner workings he already
knows it but it's part of being vocal
and sharing that intimate
of you with your father and and in the
holy spirit as well and you kind of grow
in that and then you become where you go
you're on a telephone conversation and
God tells you to pray and the person's
about to get off the phone and you ain't
prayed yet and about to hang up and then
you pass a billboard that says just pray
everybody we're gonna go ahead and pray
out before we get off of here I want to
bless you you know what I'm saying like
little things like that that I've seen
throughout my life and it's like being
able to see God in all and then there's
a there's a quote that says if you can't
see God in all then you can't see God at
all you know we're talking about the
music a lot of people listening to music
to worship God I mean it's a very
powerful tool to get alone or or
corporate worship for that matter but
using music to worship God to get in the
spirit but I've heard a fasted music in
the past you know and saying okay no
music just because I'm obsessed with
music I love music and and I want to
make sure I can worship God without
music and I've brought that to friends
they freaked out that's the way I
worship God
I could never fast music and I'm like
bro if that's the only way that you
worship God is through music and we got
we got bigger problems here here you
know what I'm saying so it's like it's
being able to to use all of it to hear
God to commune with God and I honestly
bro I really that the more you study
that concept it opens up to literally
everything the good the bad the ugly the
dry places the valley the wilderness
like God is speaking through everything
and through our enemies you know what
I'm saying he's trying to teach us
things like I look back at my past and
I'll talk about my past a lot in demonic
possession and being in the occult and
stuff like that really deep and I was in
a really crazy place but at this point I
wouldn't trade that for anything because
there's lessons that God communicated to
me through experience like you're saying
that I can read 80 books and I'll never
graps
that understanding of God's love for me
that he's willing you know to go
wherever I go to reach out to me there's
no way I can in a lot of those sounds of
of you seeing God in movies and stuff
have been in different levels and
sometimes it's been running from God or
having idolatry in my heart you know the
the deeper we grow with God he exposes
every area so if you're holding on to
something too tight if you gotta let
something go even for a season like God
man he picks you apart man and it's for
good reason it's not because he don't
want you to be happy it's not that he
wants to was hold something good from
you it's because he has something better
you can't let go of something good in
order to receive what's great and a
majority of its like that is that we're
holding on to these things tighter and
closer than we're holding on to God and
in all those situations those scenarios
have played out in those movies and
things like that and the dreams even in
the dream realm of God's speaking and
having you know symbolic things in the
dreams and and being able to understand
the symbolism of not just having a bad
dream or a dream that I was being
attacked by a wolf or an alligator or a
tornado to understand look that tornado
represents my idolatry my whatever it is
you're going through your porn addiction
whatever it is like it's it's
represented within the psyche and God
uses all of it to speak that's I really
do think that's what we everyone can be
there eventually we will and it becomes
deeper it becomes deeper of this you're
never alone God's always watching he's
always speaking it's a commits a
communication process again it works
both ways and so think people growing in
levels and for us to be unless the thing
when you never arrive
and I think I'm deep I think you're deep
I think there's a lot of people
listening who they you know they
resonate with what we're talking about
I guess everyday thought but there's
people who are deeper you know what I'm
saying there's people who are deeper
there's to fathom that you know I'm
saying it's so it but that's a good
thing it's never I haven't arrived a
place it's this journey that I
understand that God is speaking to me
man that's good this gives us something
to look forward to as well like
I think as deep as your mind can go as
deep as your spirit wants you to go
think you can go there if you can
imagine it if you can fasten them it you
can you can embody it and walk and walk
in it I don't think there's any limits
to god man I really good stuff
you know one of my favorite scriptures
is that the scripture says that God is
exceedingly and abundantly able to do
above all that you can ever ask or think
so that that's a powerful statement if
you think about it what it means is
whatever you can imagine in your mind
God is not just able to do more than
that
he's exceedingly and abundantly able to
do more than that ya know count but
before beyond our comprehension that the
Bible is basically saying that we we
can't actually fathom how awesome he is
and what he's able to do and the point
is that he can speak to us in in any
kind of a way um you know there's the
the song that says oh love is all around
you you know love is not going outside
your door so I don't know if that's even
a Christian song it doesn't matter
that's this what that's the topic though
that God can choose whatever he wants to
use you know that's a good example I
didn't think of it but actually God take
that song and communicate a message to
man that that because the Bible says God
is love so if love is all around
anything God is all around right and God
is knocking on your door so he's all
around me he's everywhere and he's
knocking on your door
yeah man that's that's a deep revelation
you know what I'm saying that really is
to understand that God is love and no
matter that every good and perfect gift
comes from above and anything good
anything no boy using true in your life
is a part of God and because everything
is a part of God
I even think the dark times are a part
of God you know what I'm saying I think
that everything that we go through he is
the author and finisher man that you
nothing happens by mistake and he uses
all of our everything for his glory or
even if we call us it upon ourselves now
we can get into that but he uses it all
and he speaks through it all we were
just talking about this the other day on
our school of the mystic session that
using secular music man I mean there's
so many secular songs that um that God
speaks through and you know and people
want to
everybody has their way of Iturbide say
well that you know that person was
supposed to be a worship leader but they
were making music for the devil but it
just comes out I've heard all kinds of
weird theology behind it but it comes
down to the fact that that song wouldn't
even have been birthed if that person
was living a different life or whatever
we look at Morningstar ministries you
speak about the prophetic I mean they've
been known for taking secular songs and
remaking them and using the same courses
they I mean they did a lot of Beatle
stuff a lot of 70s music I was huge in
the Morningstar back in the day and uh
yeah just the message a lot of this
stuff is universal you know and but in
Christendom we kind of have this weird
thing about the messenger we exhaust the
messenger over the message you know what
I'm saying it really comes down to the
message of love of acceptance of knowing
who you are in Christ and and finding
out and exploring the depths of that
like I said I don't think we'll ever
reach a pinnacle I think it continues to
grow it's we've expunged we've
experienced things that uh some people
may never experience that's deep man and
they don't have to though that's another
thing to be okay with that you don't
have to go and show them these great
mysteries and revelations of the kingdom
that God has has given you because you
asked
for I think that's the you know ask seek
knock and as as far as your mind will
allow you to go god uses your
imagination he uses your thoughts I mean
the whole battle of good and evil in
demonic possession and entities and all
of this stuff it's a battle for the mind
of ungodly beliefs and stinkin thinking
and false realities and things like that
that we've accepted and lies about
ourselves that we've thought to be truth
you know what I'm saying we get to the
bottom of that stuff it all takes place
within the psyche and there is no
there's no limit to that and that's that
should encourage you because once you
feel like you've you've hit a plateau
that there's still greater levels man
and and I don't know that that's that
even should be the pursuit but it's
there to know that whatever you're
seeking you can find it and that's just
the laws of the universe that whatever
you look for you're gonna find if you
look for the good in everything you're
gonna find it if you look for the bad
and the devil and the evil and
everything demonic and all of this up
you're gonna find it it's there whatever
you're looking for you will find and so
that's part of communicating with God I
say what does the scripture say you say
if we want to hear what God's saying we
can always go back to the word the
scripture said hey whatever whatsoever
is pure whatsoever is good whatsoever is
noble think on these things entertain
your mind with these thoughts for a
reason you know what I'm saying because
we're gonna begin to see that it's going
to shape the way that we're able to
perceive ourselves God our brothers and
sisters in the world around us and we
can see people like God sees them and
that's always been my biggest prayer as
God let me see these people how you see
them don't don't let me get away from my
judgments and how I feel and my bigotry
and all of what I think how it should be
let me see these people how you see them
and then we're able to move into a state
of compassion and we learn and we grow
from experience and it just gets deeper
and deeper and deeper somebody mentioned
the sanctification process and that's
really it I'm just going these deeper
and deeper deeper levels with God where
you go as deep as you want to go at the
end of the day if you want to hear his
voice closer than a friend
you want to hear him you want to know
his heartbeat like it's there it's
available without shotover doubt you
know when you're talking I'm getting
revelation it's like you're you're
mentioning things that I either think
okay maybe I should have put that in the
book or maybe not like when you talk
about God speaks to the pain I didn't
really talk about that much in my book
but it's true like God doesn't just
speak through the movies what happened
yeah I could speak in the movies with
the the sad endings too and God can
speak through the pain in the the sorrow
and I think he does is not just he can I
think he I think actually that's what
he's trying to do yeah that's what it
counts the most man yeah he's he's not
trying to hurt us right he's not this
evil god it just gets the kid watching
her suffer he's preparing us and he's
taking us through something you know
Davis oh yea though I walk through the
valley yeah and it's not yea though I
walk to the valley the valley is not the
point it's I'm walking through the
valley because there's something on the
other side that God has for me and I
mean he wants to teach me in the valley
because there's something on the other
side that I will need to learn in the
valley before I can truly appreciate
understanding that I wouldn't be able to
unless I walk through the valley so I
mean that's that's a really good point
right there right that guy doesn't just
speak through the good things he thinks
he speaks to the pain and the suffering
and things like that and mistakes I mean
more I talk about a more excited I get
about it because it's like when you
realize how much God is is he actually
really talking when you understand how
creative he is and how much effort
puts to communicate to us you know it's
really mind-boggling really when you
think about there's this God who created
the whole world and there's seven
billion people in the world and he's
gonna actually take time to craft the
special message just for you and he's
gonna go out of his way to get that
message to you I think that's powerful
yeah man definitely um talking about
there's so many different places we can
go I just want to make sure I keep them
cuz I don't want to open up something
it's gonna take us a long time to unpack
but understanding um God speaking
through the good thing and we can hear
the voice of our Father and the
scripture literally says that my sheep
know my voice this is Jesus speaking my
sheep know my voice in a stranger's
voice they will not follow part of
learning to hear the voice of God is
learning to hear the other voices too
and and being able to discern which is
which and which is a good idea you have
a lot of people and this this really I'm
studying this I've got some teachings
and stuff I miss really deep but there's
a lot of people who God told me this God
told me that and they supposed to get a
pass you know what I'm saying because
the Holy Spirit who are you to question
what the Holy Spirit told me um and it's
contradicting things that God is telling
other people what God told me this and
he told you that and it's bringing up a
schism and a conflict between us
somebody's lying one of us is lying or
one of us has missed a mark or one of us
is there's something to that and I don't
have to really unpack that too much but
understanding when the enemy is speaking
I believe in God's sovereignty to a
level that I understand that God uses
the devil God uses every circumstance
and situation I don't think that there's
something that happen like you know what
I messed up I went down this road for
four years and but if we learn what well
you know what caused us to go down that
road the entities we were dealing with
the heartache
other people like you learned from that
stuff and God uses that to build
character in you so that when you're you
have a big ministry or a platform in
that same temptation or folly is coming
you've already learned because you've
been down through there and you're not
gonna make that mistake again that's how
you learn from those situations and I
think that God orchestrates that stuff
man that's the beauty and sovereignty of
who he is but understanding you don't
have to fall at every pitfall you don't
have to be blown around by every wind of
doctrine just to go down through there
and learn
now there's times and seasons for all of
this stuff I think but you don't have to
fall to the tricks of the enemy and to
compromise and selling yourself short
and maybe this is a hold another book
for you cuz it's kind of the you know I
think for one thing to be true I think
for your book to be true in this in this
concept we're tackling for God to speak
to us I think the opposite has to be
true as well I think that there has to
be places where the enemy is trying to
speak into our lives and trying to lie
to us and deceive us and you're not good
enough and the fee your broken your has
been you used to be a powerful man of
God now you're you fallen you know what
I'm saying all of these type of things
man that that we deal with you know I've
not deal with even to this day like I
still have to prophesy over myself and
over my vision and stay true to the path
that God has called me to I have
naysayers I have YouTube commenters like
all kinds of stuff that comes with the
territory but you have to know your
vision and if it's see it through and
it's nobody else's job to do it they're
here one day they're gone the next and
that'll preach in itself but understand
the man the voice of the enemy do you do
you have any experience with that with
understanding the voice of the enemy
speaking to you and how to discern
between the two I talked about nine ways
to know if you're hearing from God or
not and so it could take a while to go
through all that there's like a
self-check
you can't just assume you're hearing
good God told me they divorced my wife
because I think ya know as people who
think like that man because that was the
end of every movie it's just the end of
that particular scene you know you know
it's always second at all just because
things went good for them at that time
of their life what if they made part two
maybe in part two he's you know cocaine
yeah it's a movie you can't take too
much but one of the things I talk about
in the book is that that the number one
thing is it in agreement and that's a
pretty easy one because all you need to
do is is this do some research and you
know ask some people and you can confirm
most things just do the Word of God you
know what good sound biblical principles
are you know that can take care of a lot
of things right there no that's good man
yeah no that's good you know that part
too and so I learning from your own
mistakes is always big but you can never
you can never stop there you have to
learn from the mistakes of an of others
and I think that the thing there's a
proverb on that of being able to you
know I'm saying watch somebody a fool
fall into all of these temptations and
troubles and trials and things like that
and if you respond the same way or you
pursued the same things you're probably
going to have a similar end so
like we were saying if there's if that's
true if that's his fate if you smoke
crack every day you'll start robbing
people you'll start like there's there's
fruit and consequences that comes with
every action and decision that we make
so you don't have to go out there and
learn from from that when you present it
and this is a bunt but if you can
present it with smoking crack or drug
drug use or alcoholism whatever it is
you can look at someone else's life
who's been down through there in that
path and you can say no I don't I don't
want that for myself you know what I'm
saying I want something something
something something better something
greater from for myself for my family
for my kids and you don't have to
actually go down to there to learn I
think that's part of the whole alchemy
of it all this week we learn from our
own mistakes but we can learn by
watching others and other people fall
into dangers and temptations man um you
know with that with with the allegory
and the meanings behind that I have a
lot of people who have seen my story and
they learn from the experiences I mean
that's why we're doing this type of
podcast as to let people know like look
this is what's working this didn't work
please don't do this if you do you're
gonna fall into a pit if you do these
spirits accompany this lifestyle or
whatever the case is and I have a lot of
friends who who have learned a lot by
watching my life and pitfalls and and
the good things as well
and seeing me get back up and they true
to who I am and and if you do this or if
you I'm even in church culture man I
have friends who and they it's hard for
them to be a part of a lot of it too
because you have to be someone else a
lot of times like if you believe
something else or you whatever you're
gonna you know people are gonna respond
differently you know not to go into a
lot of detail but I have friends who to
this day they say look man I've seen
what happened to you and I don't want
that to happen to me man you know what
I'm saying I dare do this straight up
with it and and that's wisdom though
this wisdom to learn from everything not
just the good not just the bad not just
what happens to us but what happens to
people around us that
you know it's it's whatever seeds you're
sowing
you're gonna reap eventually you know
that's that's Scripture um I have one
more question man I just want to get
your take on this this is something that
I've been addressing on a few different
podcasts you know I do a lot of
different spirituality and talks with
people of all walks of life and uh so
I've had a chance of people when we use
the word God
there's a lot of people in spirituality
who don't like the word God I think
because it reminds them of church or
biblical principles that maybe they're
running away from you know what I'm
saying this type of understanding but I
like to term god that's just a term
obviously his name's not God I mean we
refer to I mean that's a there's the
word God is used referring to all types
of things in the Bible that isn't God
you know and that's a whole nother study
in itself but to use the word God I
think it's for us of a father figure
it's more of a personable thing that a
God who like we've been talking about
having a conversation with the creator
and him speaking back to us as we're in
prayer and things and hearing the voice
of God speak to us people want to use
terms like Source Energy the universe
lined this up and like I said I'm cool
with those words I can resonate I think
God is all of those words honestly but
it's something personable about God and
I guess in hearing the voice of God in
conversation format not just being
influenced by nature I mean that's part
of it of the way he speaks but in an
intimate way what why is that important
and unpacking that that God cares about
you like why would you you named your
book God is talking are you listening
can God talk what are some biblical
instances that God actually cares you
know that you're going through this
hardship that you're going through this
trial those type of things so I prefaced
it that way because I've been having
this conversation a lot so do you have
it would you unpack that a certain type
of way of God being personable and
caring God is our Father then what kind
of father doesn't talk to his children
yeah you know I would argue that you're
not hearing the voice of God then you
don't either
II don't have a relationship at all
where it's a very very immature very
weak relationship just like you would
say any child that's never hearing from
their parents you know on the scale 1 to
10 how would you rate that relationship
not very high so God has always wanted
to talk to us and he I mean if you think
about having if he talked to them all
the time and when we go to heaven we're
gonna be there right there with him he's
gonna be talking to us when Jesus was on
earth he was talking to disciples all
the time he was teaching them like the
idea that God would want to talk to us I
don't know why it's so strange to people
but in many churches it is you know it's
like when you start getting people
prophesying and say God told me this
then they get all weird it out and they
think there's something wrong with you I
mean well why is that strange that can I
ask you a question like why is it
strange that we would think that God
would want to talk to us you know to me
I think it's just a strange concept I
know I know you understand this and I
know you're trying to do you're trying
to put it in perspective with your
listeners and stuff because it is a
common issue I mean there are a lot of
churches that are very prophetic and
they're not yeah yeah that's funny
because I was preferencing that not even
about churches you know I'm saying but
you're
there's a ton of churches who think you
know they believe in you know I'm saying
what's the cost to say
sensationalism which is or cessation
which is that the gifts of the Spirit
died in that that was a seals book and
God doesn't God only speaks through the
word and there you and you know that
which is perfect has come next which is
the Bible they believe and if you want
to hear God speak read the Bible that
God doesn't impress putting impressions
on your heart I mean the whole job of
the Holy Spirit is to teach you there
was the Holy Spirit teaching is it still
comforting if so how does that feel is
that our relationship so there's a lot
of even Christian churches who don't
even believe in it they think that that
conversation is heretical you know what
I'm saying that God still speaks today
you know they think that the book is
closed but obviously that's not the case
and I think that they think that you
know I'm saying
miracles are done away with and God
doesn't heal that God doesn't oh it's
almost sounds like he doesn't care you
don't I'm saying it kind of implementing
that but if you want the answer is just
go to the Bible and that's it but it's
not a personable relationship but I
honestly think that the majority of
those people who believe that come from
the place of where the scripture says
that these signs shall follow them that
belief and it talks about asking out
demons healing people performing
miracles all of these supernatural feats
will accompany the believer and they
haven't seen that in their life but
they're saying if I'm not walking in
this and this isn't operating the best
way to explain it is that it doesn't
exist right I really think that a lot of
them come from that but it's funny
though because I it's not funny it's
actually sad but I was preferencing it
from like a spirituality mindset but it
really comes back to the church as well
well I mean the church is supposed to be
I mean if the church fails then we're in
a sad place and
and the church has failed in many ways
but there is still a remnant there's
still the Church of Jesus Christ that
still is alive today but if you take
those people away if you took us away
those who actually believe in God's
peace and then this would be literal
hell on earth because what you see is
people going out and shooting a bunch of
kids up in a school they are people who
have never experienced the love of God
oh and they have been raised by people
who have never experienced the Loden
ground and they've been surrounded by
people they have never heard the voice
of God and so if you're not hearing
God's voice then there's there's other
voices talking and they're gonna try to
get in your head and it won't be hard to
do if you're watching the soul and then
you know all these horror movies that
you I mean you will hear the voice of
the enemy if you're allowing certain
sounds in your ears and you're letting
certain influences come into your soul
you're gonna hear that voice and what's
that voice going to tell you what's that
voice going to lead you to do he might
lead you to go out and shoot a bunch of
people or or maybe not so bad he might
just lead you to shack up with somebody
and never go to church anywhere and you
know maybe get high every now and then
call yourself a Christian he might lead
you to do that but I know what he want
means you to do is to teach people how
to hear the voice of God to teach people
about the love of God and what he won't
do is he won't teach you how to heal
people and set people free from demons I
mean the devil is not going to teach you
how to do that and that's why you see
churches and you're right that's not
just churches because there's all kind
of people in the world but ultimately
there is one Lord there is one faith
there's one baptism of all you know
Jesus Christ is the way and you know
another thing and one of my favorite
scriptures too is Jesus says apart from
me you can do nothing so
I'm why do why would we think we could
accomplish anything especially in the
spirit room when the only true spirit
that why would we think we can somehow
accomplish something apart from him when
Jesus said his own mouth that apart from
him we can do nothing you know I know it
for a lot of people it's more about
experience because if you've never
actually been around somebody who's
actually heard the voice of God then
it's just a theory
you know it doesn't mean that they don't
believe it it's just it's like there's
people if you ask them do you believe
God can heal people do you believe God
would raise somebody from the dead they
would say yeah I believe that I believe
God can do that well have you ever seen
it no do you know anybody no have you
ever been in a meeting no so in theory
they believe it but they haven't
actually seen it they've experienced
that and when you actually see something
you actually experience it it just
changes you and now you're no longer
believing it based on your own
experience and and your experience is
what's going to ultimately change you
and just reading the Bible alone you
know I can't just read about in the
Bible that Cornelius got saved and you
know I can't just read about that he got
a vision I need to have it for myself
you know I can't just read about the day
of Pentecost I need to receive the
listener for myself
yeah you see me yeah especially man was
like you don't send a new age and stuff
to because they're doing it they're
healing people they're removing negative
entities and unclean spirits off of
people like do they get to have all the
fun you know what I'm saying like no
it's not it's not you know I'm saying so
those people who are in those type of
churches or congregations children are
having it encounters children are having
experiences with God with entities in
their room in the middle of the night
like that stuff is still happening man
that stuff didn't that's not a fairy
tale you know what I'm saying like these
churches would like what do we do
those people don't get to have all the
fun it is something very real and if the
church doesn't address it which a lot of
them are trying to especially the
charismatic ones but if they don't
address this kind of stuff then well
they don't have the answers there then
they'll run to someone who does and the
new-age community will embrace them with
arms wide open you know what I'm saying
so we as believers that's why I'm doing
the work I'm doing now you know what I'm
saying I'm trying to give you a biblical
looking at some type of biblical
reference to a lot of the spirituality
and these and things that even kids are
experiencing whether it's demonic
whether it's godly whether it's angelic
or whatever and have some type of
biblical reference or frame or the
problem there is that a lot of the
churches would just demonize anything
that they can't really conceptualize in
the Bible or they can't say this is it
and they can't put a finger on it some
of this stuff is weird you know what I'm
saying it when we get into the deep runs
of the prophetic and understanding
angels and spirits and impressions and
stuff like that
I really believe when the Bible says
that the Spirit of the Prophet is
subject unto the prophets you go to a
pastor and say hey my god this is going
on in my life they're not a lot of them
I gonna know what you're talking about
you need to go through someone who has
the experience a prophet who has been
there who knows how hard it is it's some
of these dreams and visions are not like
cookie cutter on Sunday Church stuff
some of it is of like whatever you've
been entertained the movies God uses
that stuff man whatever you're
entertained we're talking about like
hearing those voices and seeing and
repeating those visions it's garbage in
garbage out God can use whatever is in
our life whatever we entertain that
stuff's gonna come back up but the music
that we're listening to it's gonna come
back up that's why we're supposed to
listen to good decent uplifting music
that helps us watch try to watch good
movies that uplift us and help us and
thank God that God is moving through
Hollywood and I don't know if those
people knew it when they were writing
these movies or God just has his way of
using all things to bring himself glory
she is in all things I'm not really sure
how that works but it does work so
that's that's the thing about it about
just being able to see God in all of it
and entertain the good stuff versus the
bad and you know we have to we have to
we have to we have to step up as a
church man and people who bear the light
of Christ and really go places that you
know we were told not to go or places
that other people were scared to go I
found there's a lot of people there that
have questions that God loves men you
know and in every circle there's people
in the new-age circles there's people in
Islam God has to send people I think
into those those realms men to reach
them within speak their language or call
people out of it and then send them back
well however he does it he does it
definitely but gods hardest for Humanity
for every single person noting it and
that's he loves you regardless of
anything man so brother it's been a good
talk go ahead and let everybody know
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Derrick and thank you for having me here
and be nice to you know maybe sometime
I'm actually going to be in the States
that was so I do better get back from
time to time and I'm gonna also go back
and watch some of your old
I mean just discovered you know a little
while back and you know this really
interesting guy here he's got some
interesting stuff here and I just
appreciate the opportunity to come and
share and I hope that those who've
listened that you're encouraged that God
does speak and he he is listening to you
as well that's a anyway thanks man yeah
brother thanks for coming or we'll have
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of people are resonating with what
you're saying and being open before God
so that's good and then on the podcast
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man appreciate you for coming on dude
we'll do it again soon man thank you so
much all right Salaam Salaam peace James
Robert ladies and gentlemen yep good
good interview man I mean it opens up so
much so many doors for discussion about
uh God speaking to us and God using
everything and you know that's that's
definitely what I believe we've seen it
happening with movies like he's talking
about unpacking God using everything if
you can't see God at all you can't see
God at all it's about listening to his
voice honing in on his voice and
following that voice still small voice
you know um shout out to everybody
holding us down in the chat room
Christie man I see Christie sitting here
Christie folks he's saying her story in
the chat man has some deep stuff man
said God called her out of a life of
addiction and sin and said that to her
God's voice speak the loudest when she
was shooting cocaine in her veins and
said that God called her out of that
once she heard God's voice you never
looked back said it if you don't stop
doing this you're gonna die
and so she gave her life to God then
left the city and has been changed ever
since powerful man powerful testimonies
man that God is is willing to reach down
to speak to any of us wherever we are
and and you know I have a very similar
encounter counter to that of God
speaking through uh substance or going
to you substance and warning you you
know what I'm saying this not everything
is good you know I'm saying so just
because there's grace doesn't mean that
we can go out and do these type of
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y'all watch that video I really enjoyed
it too man it's about personal
relationship it's about growing with God
going in God hearing the voice of God
speaking and getting deeper and I really
want to put the emphasis on it's like
whatever you can imagine whatever level
that you see in your heart because we
see I mean we have dreams and visions of
healing people right and and it can
become a reality
healing people hearing God speak to us
moving in the spirit whatever vision
that you have for your life that you can
obtain that and walk in that so with
that being said I think we'll pretty
much
thought up another so there's a lot of
cool stuff happening new interviews just
up with Philip J watt with the mad magic
podcast I was on his show and it was
really good
Chris Bosh told me he told me it was
really good I went back and listened to
it and it was a good thing because I was
able to open up more than I usually
would ah I guess this podcast just
because I was product with some
questions and stuff and stuff prod is
not a good one
he asked really good questions that was
able to get me to go into depth about
the psyche about God about the gospel
and many things so you hear some stuff
on his show that you probably should
hear so make sure y'all go listen to
that episode as well just type in true
seeker Philip J watt mad magic podcast
that's on YouTube and all over the place
look it up it's good stuff really good
so with that being said I'm going to say
peace and Shalom I will be back live
Thursday I've been busy been working on
a lot of stuff here and working on some
websites for some people some some
pastor friends of mine and some artists
and stuff so I've been busy with that
also still getting ready to finish up
some of these teachings and stuff as
well that I'm doing though if it's gonna
be out there soon I'm gonna read through
some of these questions
Chris bosses just stay live
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I'm gonna go ahead and get off of here
I'll go live Pablo with a Q&A I'm
thinking about doing that on maybe
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there's some things that I like to
address that uh more interactive with
the community aspect of it than just um
going live on the podcast so with that
I'm gonna say peace and Shalom man I
think you guys would do it again very
soon Thursday even the long Shalom peace
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