Exorcist and Haunted House Specialist | Heaven�s Messenger Jarred Neil
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heaven's messenger Jared welcome to the
truth seeker podcast man how are you on
this day after Christmas well thank you
very much for having me it's an honor
and a pleasure I'm doing alright was a
bit of a long evening with some sick
kids and I'm not even sure exactly where
you are but I'm up in Canada where it's
freaking freezing cold so what we're
doing the best that we can under the
circumstances yeah yeah I'm in Alabama
it's not cold we had a hot Christmas I
hate that well in some ways I wouldn't
have minded a little bit of sunshine and
heat the grass is always greener sweet
it's a good stuff man well may you just
put out a book your book is under the
same title heavens messenger you're a
clairvoyant exorcist demon hunter talked
about some of these different spiritual
abilities we call them one of the things
I think it's interesting to note that it
says that you were a you were all of
this stuff from births like it was a
natural thing that happened and that's a
really cool thing that to get into like
how you first got into the work that
you're doing and how you got into these
abilities and stuff so I definitely want
to get into that but for people who
don't know who you are just kind of give
a brief overview of who you are what you
do and what you bring to the table sure
well to keep it simple first and
foremost I'm a regular guy so I call
myself Jared heavens messenger I'm a
vessel for above I'm no more special or
better than any other human being I've
been given a gift and I try to use it to
the best of my ability and of course I
knew as a child that I was different but
I didn't understand what it was what I
had what I was supposed to do with it
that came a lot later on but I'm just a
regular guy I enjoy my whiskey and
cigars and my sports and I got a family
and I have my tattoos and I enjoy going
on the motorcycle for right here at FX
I'm just one one of the guys and like I
said I I don't claim to be holy or a
saint I don't call myself a guru or any
of this stuff I'm just a regular guy do
for the best that I can will get it with
the gift that I've been given doing
God's work spreading the message that's
what it says on your on your own on your
website in your book what is the message
man what is the the overall message
behind everything that you do I know it
has many facets but there's a message
and you're the messenger so what is the
message
well the main message and again you know
I'm always very hesitant to give a
message for almost eight billion people
but you know as someone pulls a card on
the internet now have a message for a
billion people it's nonsense but there
is one main message that I think we all
need to follow and it doesn't matter
your race background color or religion
we all need to be good and kind and we
need to try to make a positive
difference for humanity for animals for
effort for the earth the main reason
we're here is to spread goodness and
kindness and a lot of people think it
has to be a major event like if I stop a
child from climbing the walls because
he's possessed everyone thinks that they
need to do something that big and I
found and I'm gonna quote ganda from the
Lord of the Rings where he says that I
found that sometimes the smallest act of
kindness will make the biggest
difference and I think that's the
biggest message that we need to hear as
humans don't judge others and be good
and kind and try to make a difference
where you can that's good man
it sounds like something that I talk
about a lot like spirituality is deep
and mystical we're gonna get into that
stuff but it's practical at the same
time right it's extremely practical and
like I said a lot of people believe that
they need to be a guru or they need to
have tremendous amounts of knowledge
about the spirit world absolutely not
that the main purpose is to do something
positive for ourselves and for other
people and you don't need to be Einstein
and you don't need to be a girl to do
that just we need to be ourselves and
remember to do unto others that we want
done onto ourselves and I don't care
what religion someone is at the end of
the day that's the most important thing
we can know the Bible inside out but if
we're not good or kind what freaking
doesn't make if you can quote the Bible
word-for-word yep I'm with you on that
man so let's go back to the origin story
bro like what opened up these doors to
the supernatural to the other side what
what got you into this type of work well
you know as I got a little bit older
that the wait so to speak on my
shoulders got extremely heavy and I
start to understand it's not it you
simply see things predict things feel
things that I need to do something with
it I need to put this gift to good use
and it just got to a point where I
understood now's the time for me to find
out exactly what I have and what I need
to do with it and you know I'll tell you
very very quickly the story it's it's in
my book where I I asked for guidance and
I got a name and I researched the name
and I called the guy never spoke to him
before was an aide of a Native American
fellow here in Canada and he was waiting
for my call
he said you you're the guy I've been
waiting for and I know I had the right
guy I went to meet him and he helped me
to understand what it is that I had what
I needed to do with it and how to open
up properly because you walk a very fine
line when you're in the spirit world and
the physical world at the same time and
the spiritual world is beautiful it's
incredible but it's extremely dangerous
and you walk a very very fine line
between sanity and insanity between
reality and what's not real and thank
God I had that person there who was who
was able to help guide me the right way
to be able to unleash so to speak what I
had within me to be able to make a
positive difference and doing so without
losing my mind
did you ever lose your mind I'd like to
think I haven't I've seen a lot of
things from kids climbing the walls
- disgusting demons - unfortunately
people dying I've seen it all so I've
seen a lot of things that are very hard
for the average person to take again but
I think I've done a pretty good job of
being able to keep [Â __Â ] together so to
speak yeah and to continue to continue
my my mission of helping others so I you
know I might have walked that line once
or twice to be honest with you but I'm
pretty confident that I never crossed it
yeah I crossed it that's why I asked it
wasn't to take a pick a job for sighs
like I literally have been in a place
where like you feel like these entities
are overpowering you like I wasn't
covered I wasn't doing the the inner
work I was a misguided youth doing all
of these spells and rituals and stuff
like that and really crossed into some
of that territory like you said can be
dangerous I really I really believe in
that the statement as above so below
that's within so without so like this
mirror image of yes you know what goes
on spiritually in the spirit realm like
you said and then going on in in the
physical reality and then in the heavens
as well what we would call outer space
if you will but you said that you got to
be careful walking around and kind of
navigating through some of the places in
the spirit realm it's very much like
that in the physical as well right
there's some neighborhoods that you
gotta be on your toes when you when you
go there now you can pass you if you
have business to do you got somebody to
see there's a reason for you to be there
hey he's with me don't touch him I got
him and so you'll be protected right so
it's kind of kind of mirrors that a
little bit don't you think
I agree a hundred percent and I'll just
take you two step further if I may you
know you mentioned how everything
mirrors stuff above so us below us on
two percent accurate that veil that line
is getting thinner and thinner as this
I'll call it this battle what many
people in the Bible Belt would call
Armageddon for example we are in that
battle between good and evil light
darkness God Eve or whatever you want to
call it and the veil between the
physical and the spiritual world is
getting thinner and thinner and thinner
which is why there's so many different
things happening and and one of my
biggest issues in the spiritual field so
to speak and why say it's dangerous I
don't have to worry about evil entities
because they don't like me they stay far
away from me I'm known as as being a
foremost Exorcist people have contacted
me from
over 60 countries I have plenty of video
most proof text messages where demons
will do everything in their power to
stay a far away from me as they possibly
can but the average person doesn't have
a gift that reaches to that extent so
when they open a door to the spirit
world when I tell people you can't open
it to one side you're opening it to both
light and shadow and the devil doesn't
come to you with the pitchfork and horns
the devil comes as your best friend with
the bouquet of roses embark on whatever
it is right yeah and that's what is so
dangerous is nowadays anyone could take
a course anyone can get involved easily
into the spirit realm and I try to
explain to them that it's not a joke you
know they saw Ouija boards at Walmart
and there are kids getting possessed
this or playing around with the Ouija
board thinking that it's a toy as
opposed to a means to get to the spirit
world and this is this is one of the big
problems right right now excuse me let
me let me unpack that a little bit what
you just said that you're one of the you
know first and foremost Exorcist you
have this whole list of things that
you've done and you're a powerhouse in
the spirit realm and fighting evil and
things like that and you have this
supernatural Authority even and you've
done the work you've done the homework
you've done the research and you got the
scars to prove it what is that
contingent on that you stay that like
that that stays and then or you lose
your power we see like in the Bible like
there was an instance where again kind
of getting into it kind of tends to what
you were saying was I think it was the
seven sons of ski by thing is what they
called him and they were trying to cast
out a demon out of somebody and and they
didn't do the the inner work they
weren't who they said they were and a
demon looked at them and said hey I know
Paul I know Jesus but who are you
we don't even know you and you know hell
has no mention of your name we don't
know you here and the dude overpowered
them with the supernatural strength of
which happens to demonic possession and
exorcism sometimes and they ended up
beating up the guys just one person beat
up all the guys and and pretty much
ripped all their clothes off and he ran
away naked like what is it contingent
that hell knows your name that you're
somebody who's going to continue to
in the spirit is it a certain lifestyle
laid down is it that you say your
prayers is it that you're faithful with
the word with these things that God has
given you is it contingent upon anything
or I mean how would you explain that to
people to continue to walk at that level
that's an amazing question thank you and
again and I just want to repeat that
it's not that I'm necessarily a
powerhouse I'm just a regular guy who is
the vessel the question is but who am i
a vessel before so when I do an exorcism
whether it's an archangel whether it's
Jesus himself who uses my body to
perform it and I've got tons of videos
and images where people have seen all
kinds of stuff and I want to just say
that if you didn't know I'm one of the
few people in the world who suffer
stigmata and I'm assuming being an
Alabama you sure as heck know what
stigmata is okay people people witness
it okay now what do I need to do to keep
up this mission so to speak I'm not I'm
not a Holy Roller like I said I'm a
regular guy I do my prayers I believe in
God but I have a mission to fulfill and
am I using this ability for good or bad
and that's what it comes to people tell
me all the time well can't you predict
the winning lottery number well if I
were to try to do that then I wouldn't
exactly be using it for humanity I'd be
using that ability for myself oh right
so I think what it's truly contingent on
is that number one no matter all the
hardships that I go through and I make
tremendous tremendous sacrifice and I
carry burden that the average person
cannot even fathom
doing what I do and I don't give up and
it's a daily struggle on a daily battle
and no matter how hard a guest I have in
my mind to do God's work and to make a
difference
and to fight evil and to spread goodness
and kindness and I think that's really
what its contingent on God doesn't
expect me to be perfect he doesn't want
any of us at all as opposed to helping
others that might be when he steps in
and says we'll hold on a second there
yeah I've heard it said um service to
others over service to self but is like
kind of the rule but service to others
is service to self especially when you
understand that everyone is an extension
of you everyone is
everyone is a brother so service to
others is service to self so yeah
there's like a code of ethics there's
like you got to make sure that you're
you're staying at that I think there's
things that they're just like those
other people can do to open up
themselves to these these entities we
can we can do as well right even though
you're walking in the spirit and you got
all the stuff going on like it's eat if
you're not it's it's a narrow path
that's what the Bible would call it we'd
say a fine line that you have a thin
line even if you will but there's stuff
that you can do that you open up
yourselves to these entities but I think
you count the cost and you know that I
don't need to open up doors to this kind
of stuff because it is serious it is
dangerous it's different when you know
about it because most of these people
who are contacting you they have no idea
even what's going on right they're new
to it all hey this is happening in my
home my son is doing these destructive
behaviors I need help I don't know what
it is and but it's different once you
kind of know and I think I think I think
the more you kind of walk in those
levels and have more experience you
begin to kind of have some rules and
things for yourself okay this is how you
find out what the name of the Spirit is
this is how you cast it out this person
has to kind of renounce you know these
ties that they've made and things like
that you kind of gain some experience
right absolutely and it's not outpatient
even for me I've been doing this a while
but every day I'm I'm learning every day
I'm able to do some things that I
haven't been able to do before and I
think it's it's very more to everyday
life the day that we think we know it
all the day that we think we don't need
to learn anymore or it's understanding
that as much as I think I know there's
so much more that I do not know yeah
what about um I what were some of the
first experiences that you had again
going back to the origin stuff was there
any like paranormal supernatural
experiences that you had as a child that
kind of opened up to the door for this
exploration into this stuff okay I think
one of the craziest or maybe scariest
not that I was scared but when other
people deem scariest as a teenager I was
once at a party now we used to be a crew
of guys you know as you said you know we
all kind of had
very interesting youth where we didn't
ask Sirleaf oh no the Bible the way we
should have and I was at a party with a
bunch of people and there was a girl
that we knew gorgeous gorgeous girl and
she had disability where she was able to
get all the guys that she met to fall
for her and you know she would sleep
with them and then break their heart the
next day and I was the only one that you
couldn't get and I'll never forget the
moment I went are you stopped hair back
then unlike now so I went into her into
a room at a house party and I started
combing my hair and the room was dark
she walks in she stands next to me she
looks me in the eyes and it was at that
moment I understood that she wasn't even
human she was a demon
she had no I could see no soil her eyes
were black and she looked at me and she
said you don't know who you are yet
Jared she said there was a reason you
were the only one that I couldn't get
she said but I'll tell you something
she said my side will win this battle
not God and then she left and I know her
again and it was worse experiences that
I had where I truly understood that evil
is not a joke and it takes many forms
shapes and sizes and that's when it got
me thinking we'll hold on a second
what can I do to make sure that she's
not right to make sure that it's not her
side that wins this battle so to speak
now you're talking else maybe fifteen
sixteen years old so it was quite
traumatizing that's interesting man we
just did an episode before this one
about the spirit of Jezebel and it's
talking about you know the sexual
promiscuous whoredom even energy that
kind of comes in and like you know kind
of almost like a black widow or
something like kind of sets its eyes on
something it's gonna do anything that it
can to manipulate and to lie and to
deceive or to use its beauty and you
know I'm saying to kind of lure people
in and it's really interesting it sounds
like you had a run-in with some type of
similar spirit like that Oh quite a few
run-ins with with spirits like that so
to speak and what's interesting is you
know everything is energy you know God
is isn't a man in the
goddess and energy even Albert Einstein
you speak about everything as an energy
and always tell people you know making
love having says is not a sin where we
need to be careful where God is warning
us is that be careful future with you
know we realize whether it's a one night
stand or whatever the case may be we get
caught up that it's not a big deal but
we're not just sharing our body we're
sharing energy and I think people need
need to understand that whatever we do
there's an exchange of energy and when
we're doing it with beings or people who
don't have the right intentions it's
interesting like the Chinese torture the
drop of water on the forehead every few
seconds that negative energy pounds us
and it weakens us and it wears us down
that's interesting you say that -
because it's you know kind of tying the
two together there was a lady that I
interviewed and I didn't know this was
the deal but um later into the interview
she was talking about how she was in a
relationship with a member of the ashtar
command of this entity that lives on
another planet and they were like
romantically engaged I think she even
said that they had children you know in
this weird stuff and it was a very weird
interview but again like two days ago a
friend of mine shared another video with
the guy with this guy which I've seen
him before but there was a newer
interview with this guy who claims to
have relationships with these alien
beings and have like 70 80 kids from
these offworld
entities have you ever looked into that
at all is that like a like an entryway
for demonic possession or you don't you
don't say strong delusion or something
that comes in with that well it
absolutely is an entry to that and I'll
take this up further and again I can
only offer as you know my opinion based
on my experiences and I always tell
people they may have different
experiences that give them a different
opinion now I believe in aliens so to
speak and extraterrestrials but I don't
believe they're from other planets
I believe it's you know I'm going back
to the
Old Testament in the ancient Hebrew I'm
a Hebrew by the way so I speak Hebrew
and I go back to the Old Testament where
God says they thought once and they fell
again he wiped them out the first time
with the flood of Noah I believe that
these beings that people think from
other planets are actually the which
were children of humans and fallen
angels so I believe that these people
are sane and that they're telling the
truth and they are sleeping with other
beings my issue they may think that it's
certain beings but they're actually
sleeping with demons with the fallen
angels and that's my opinion based on
experiences that I've had and people
have come to see me I get calls all the
time for people who tell me they're
getting raped in the evening by entities
- that came that they can't even see and
I believe it a hundred percent and if we
call it what it is no good entity
nothing in the allah a rape someone in
the middle of the night it's never gonna
be a positive thing if you follow me
yeah yeah yeah there's some some crazy
stories and I don't think like I said I
don't you know anything that goes
against your freewill it's very strange
some of that stuff to think about it um
now when I especially when it comes to
the paranormal I know we kind of we kind
of you know are in those realms a little
bit when you know the stories I like to
hear are the ones whether it was aliens
or whatever it is when when the
supernatural becomes natural when
something from the spirit realm or from
space whatever crosses into our reality
when you move like physically see
something whether it's an apparition of
an old woman a ghost at a graveyard
whether it's you know UFOs in the night
sky whatever it is I've seen some
entities whether it's angels and
beautiful creatures or whatever
fairies goblins I don't care but it's
something when they cross over it does
something because it's not like in the
spirit it's not a theory it's not a
legend it's like literally look I've
seen this myself have you had those
encounters were something literally
crossed over and like appeared as an
apparition or you've seen something that
was just otherworldly in our realm every
day every single day and very often when
someone comes to my office sometimes
they faint sometimes they start sweating
and and their point they're like Jesus
is next to you or there's angels here
even people coming into my office can
see it you know with the work that I do
when I walk somewhere it has to be with
an army I can do it alone I'm just a man
and regular everyday people can can see
it so whenever someone tells me I saw I
saw spirit in my home or I saw a ghost
or I saw an angel I saw a demon I don't
doubt them for a second because every
single day I see it and I'll take it a
step further there are angels and demons
in human form that are walking among us
not just from the spiritual realm that
are actually in human form
all right um we had a question here in
the chat somebody was asking just to go
into a little bit of information about
demonic pacts like making pacts with
demons I mean that's a whole probably
episode in and of itself right I think
there's I think there's packs that we
make unknowingly by the actions and
things that we do whether it's playing
with the Ouija board whether it's
sending out ill intentions and evil
thoughts like I think that there's some
weird stuff that we don't even know
about that we're entertaining these
these type of entities but I know when
you're young and you watch a lot of
horror movies or supernatural movies and
stuff like that people are making blood
packs right they're cutting their wrists
or arms or fingers and they're making
these blood oaths with the devil and
demons and stuff like that and for
teenagers at least for me I was a
teenager that's why I'm referring to
teenagers but it's sure there's a lot of
adults who were curious about this too
but if you feel like I've already sold
my soul to the devil and there's nothing
I can do and there's this weird fear
that comes upon you and people are
scared like I'm sure you get these
messages all the time hey I sold my soul
to the devil I don't think I can get it
back those type of things how does that
how does that work with making pacts
with demons and maybe the sovereignty of
God and Christ comes in like because I
remember I told the guy who actually
discipled me on the Hale I made I gave
solder the devil and I remember like I
was afraid of the devil coming for me
and it would torture me with nightmares
and in hearing stuff walking through my
room at night and I thought the devil
was coming for me because I wrote it
down on paper and burnt it and made you
know do these little rituals and stuff
so I felt like I gave him my soul now he
owned it and he was like no no no no it
doesn't work like that
it doesn't work like that like Jesus
comes to give life and he has defeated
the enemy and he kind of walked me
through this this knowledge of Christ
and who he is how does that work do you
think is it kind of similar to that
because like if someone believes it then
it becomes real to them until they have
knowledge otherwise about the saving
grace of Christ and things like that
right look it all comes down to free
will and and and I just want to say
something very quickly before I answer
that question I can't even help anyone
without their free will I've had people
refused give me permission to help them
and I can't I can't take away their free
will now ask for someone who sold their
soul it's actually way more common than
people can imagine it's happening every
day and by the thousands if not by the
millions but what you said is very
accurate and very interesting it's never
too late it comes down to free will the
moment that you decide that that soil
belongs to God and not to the devil oh
the devil starts losing power and
generally the people who stay in these
packs who make these deals with the
devil many you know we know many in
Hollywood do many in the entertainment
industry do it's because they don't want
to lose what it is that they have and
they know that if they try to go back on
the deal the devil is going to take away
everything that he gave them so a
hundred percent anyone who wants to go
back to God can absolutely do so it is
never too late ever yeah that's that's
awesome too and it's interesting again
you bring up in Hollywood and things
like that and you know there's tons of
videos and there's tons of symbolism and
all of these demonic things like that
and we use symbolism like um symbolism
that it only has power to saying really
what you attached to it and they've
taken some symbolism and if perverted it
and things like that but the interesting
interesting thing is too is a lot
Hollywood coming out of that stuff a lot
of you know old rockers who are getting
born again you know Brian had welts from
corn he's a born-again believer dave
mustaine
Zakk Wylde like all these people are
being becoming vocal about their faith
Alice Cooper you know what I'm saying
I'm talking about their faith in Christ
and how they they got born again and
stuff like that and I think that's
really interesting that these people are
like hey yeah that's stuff real and I'm
gonna choose right to follow Christ and
to follow the light and that's a really
awesome that a lot of celebrities are
coming out of that stuff oh absolutely
and as you could see with many of these
celebrities work were turning the page
so to speak to become better people and
do the right thing
a lot of them get black powder
blacklisted afterwards yep right but it
just shows the power of God the power of
light the power of goodness when they
will give up a lot of the stuff they had
to do the right thing and and and we
were talking earlier about what type of
path offered three cases for cash my
friend and I got five kids to feed and
I've been offered all kinds of cash to
do things and I refuse to don't give in
to the greed and you do the right thing
and that's why I appreciate now when it
comes to haunted houses again you talk
about like people having these
experiences in the house with weird
anomalies and weird things happening
whether they open up doors and now
there's a before you yeah yeah yeah but
most of it towards the end and you broke
a couple of it at the end but um when it
comes to ghosts man what are what our
ghosts do you believe like when you get
are they demons are they are they
literally spirits of the deceased that
are trying to come through like what
would our ghosts when people are
researching that many haunted homes and
unlike what you see on TV with Ghost
Hunters I don't go with machines cameras
I go with my hands and my eyes and queer
entities now everyone talks about ghosts
but they're actually not that common a
spirit is when we die our soul
to the spirit realm a ghost is a spirit
that gets stuck here a ghost is in
between the spirit and the physical
which is why very often people will see
a ghost at the same time at the exact
same place in a home some of the ghosts
don't even realize that they're dead so
it's literally a spirit stuck in a
physical environment and it's not that
common when I do a hunt at home 9 out of
10 times there's not a ghost it's evil
spirits or demons that are hanging
around the home but Hollywood calls it
ghosts right but in my opinion a ghost
is really just a soul that's stuck I
need salt crossing over they can't do it
on their own
what about contacting the dead that's a
that's a controversial one even even in
the Bible there's some weird obscure
verses that kind of pointed to some
Saints and even Jesus communing with the
saints of old and things like that but
it's really taboo for the majority of
Western Christianity it said no no you
don't contact the dead but I'll say well
what about okay if we don't contact the
dead what happens when the dead contacts
you our ancestors are crying out they
have messages they want the bloodline
healed you know a lot of different
theories or something like that
what about contacting the dead well look
this is where it gets a little
controversial and as I mentioned I'm
Hebrew okay so it's not just a taboo for
worse for Western Christianity it's a
taboo for us Jews I mean you know when I
encounter big rabbis they cross the
street very often okay yet again and
just so you understand once upon a time
I had a long beard in a black hat so I
studied the Torah the Old Testament I
studied the Talmud I could have been a
rabbi had I chose so I've walked that
line so I know what I'm talking about
it's funny they always bring that up you
shouldn't do prophecy yet in synagogue
we read a book a prophecy as they do in
many churches they say you shouldn't
contact the deceased yet
some of the biggest biggest rabbis that
have ever existed throughout history
spoke to the deceased you mentioned
Jesus as you don't know what's around by
himself right so the
- the matter is is that some of my
biggest critics are religious people
from every religion until they need my
help and until their kid is climbing the
wall and it's not a priest or a minister
or a rabbi or an imam who can help them
so they come to me so you know I walked
the line and I never like to criticize
anyone I was once religious but I even
remember for myself when I was religious
I was very close-minded to certain
things and it's you hit the nail right
on the head when you said that they
mentioned that it's it's fine a taboo
yet if I still had a bobcat and a beard
they wouldn't be criticizing me you
follow what I'm saying oh yeah it's only
those that fit in there their idea of
who should be doing it where they don't
have an issue it but I like to remind
people of our religion God talks about
hidden holy people you don't know who
they are and what they look like if you
go back to the story of Abraham three
angels came to him after he did a
circumcision I think it was 98 or 99
years old they were beggars in the
desert right but they ended up being
three angels so you we can't judge
people by the by the cover by the book
cover you got to open the book and see
who they are so I agree with you hundred
percent so we're not bothering the dead
there is no concept of time in the
spirit world time and space don't exist
they want to answer though answer they
don't they won't and you hit and you
also said it right they visit us all the
time very often in dreams because when
we dream we're opening the door to the
spirit world right so they you know one
of the biggest things with religion is
that you shouldn't you're bothering them
it's it's tough we're not bothering them
they can choose they have free will they
can choose to answer or not answer
either we got a couple questions here in
the chat I'm gonna try to translate
somebody's to you um
so Christy wants to know let's see about
angelic experiences and I think you kind
of touched on it just a little bit as
far as like when you do an exorcism some
people see Jesus or they see angels and
stuff like that and before you go in and
you work
with these these angelic entities and
she wants to know do they assist in the
extra system do you ask for Jesus to be
present do you ask for a Michael to be
present and do they assist with these
exorcisms absolutely and again you know
I have to say it's interesting because I
moderated a right now it's weird to hear
someone like me I'm a Jew but the person
I work closely with is Jesus right now
it's my people while he was a Jew too so
it makes sense but the fact of the
matter is I can't do it alone it's not
like we see in the movie I'm not
throwing holy water I'm not beating a
person because all I'd be doing a
certain hurting the person I'm not
burning sage I'm not quoting anything
from the Bible Jesus or angels literally
use my body and how do I fight evil how
do I fight the darkness light shoots out
of my hands Jesus is light we'll
literally shoot out people of witnesses
so I mentioned I get stigmata why do I
get the stigmata again there's many
people witnessed it I need a hole in my
hand for light to come out of my hand it
makes sense right so so the question is
fantastic I can't do the exorcism it's
not me my body is what is what's doing
it but it's literally Jesus or an angel
that is doing the exorcism through my
body
so without them I cannot do an exorcism
we had don't have the power to combat a
powerful demon that was strong enough to
take a body I'm just a man I'm the tool
that they use to do the exorcism if that
makes sense yeah yeah and so I think
that kind of gives us a door into what
some people call it in the psychic
medium-- community channeling using your
body as a vessel as you said a vehicle
or a channel for light for energy for
Christ to come through when people use
it for all types of other spirits like
they almost kind of turn their body into
a Ouija board in a sense but it's it
what's the difference they're so like
versus like opening up your you know
body to channel raw or to channel these
ancient Sun gods or whatever the case is
like what's the difference in doing that
and people claiming to do that and
you'll get prophetic messages there's
energy that comes you know all kind of
weird stuff and the same thing kind of
happens with Christ though when you open
up your body your mind to channel Christ
the channel love the channel the angelic
is there a difference there is there
taboo or is it the same thing all of the
above and I'll explain why as we talked
about it to be very dangerous based on
on what I do and who I am I know who's
using my body to do what when we simply
open up you know any entity can say
they're Buddha they're raw they're Jesus
whoever the case may be but the average
person isn't at a level were they're
able to determine I mean you know I've
met many many mediums and psychics who
told me I get messages from my angel
from Maya spirit guides and I taught
them who are your spirit guides can you
name them 99% of them have absolutely no
clue who they're talking to
now it's one thing to simply talk to
someone to get a message it's another
thing to let that entity into your body
so I think that's that's the only
difference that's where the danger comes
in is can people be a hundred percent
sure of exactly who they're channeling
if you follow what I'm saying yeah I'm
the only the only entity that ever
touches my body is either Jesus or an
archangel and when I get messages from
the deceased when I get messages from
angels in a clairvoyant or what you
might call a psychic session I don't
channel any spirits I get direct
messages mm-hmm there's absolutely no
channel the only time anything touches
my body is one I'm doing an exorcism or
if I need to try to heal someone and
when it comes to healing it's also Jesus
or an angel and sometimes it works and
sometimes it does I don't claim that I
could walk around and heal everyone
I can't I filled many many people with
my hands sometimes it works and
sometimes it doesn't but again it's not
me it's either Jesus or an angel that
uses my
so to answer your question China Lingus
channeling but we need to be very very
careful when we do it how we do it and
who it is we think that we're actually
channel with that um I think you learn
again everything is energy everything is
energy you get a vibe
yes feeling hey something's not right I
just I don't feel good about this you
know what I'm saying there's something
that you learn and that's the essence
the energy the vibration if you will you
can feel it and these these Angels
energies are essences as well they carry
vibrations you can feel when they're
there your body has hair which is an
antenna that alerts you that something's
here you know the temperature in the
room changes and you get chill bumps you
know there's a lot of different ways to
know when something's a spider-sense a
sixth sense something fishy's going on
but you learn these energies you there's
a spirit of fear you can tell like an
overwhelming sense of fear comes out of
nowhere like there's no reason for you
to feel that way it could be used for
good and for bad like you can be used in
a realm of intimidation or it can be
used like an healthy fear hey be careful
it there's ain't nothing to play with
you know tread lightly and but with the
spirits that carry an essence or a
vibration or feeling you get used to
them you know who they are you know when
they show up many people walk into a
church building and they'll feel the
presence of God it's a familiar
beautiful euphoria peaceful there's no
darkness there there's only light you
can work walk into a lot of churches or
holy places or places where people are
doing energy work and you can feel the
peace in that atmosphere and what has
happened maybe the same thing for
walking into a haunted house place where
people have done a lot of seances and
made pacts with demons or somebody was
murdered in this house so whatever the
case says you can feel the vibration in
essence of it so you kind of learn the
spirits and so you get familiar right
when their evil spirits around you kind
of know the protocol you can feel that
right do you you get that as well in
your body and you can understand it a
hundred percent I could be driving to a
haunted home I live a little bit off the
island of Montreal so a lot of my
clients are on the eye
so it might take me 45 minutes an hour
to get to a home half hour away I could
even start feeling where I'm going
somewhere that's evil okay
and as human beings we all have that
ability that that's its sense that
intuition we all have it we're where the
problem gets in as as humans we're not
always smart we don't always listen to
it right and you're a hundred percent
right everything is energy everything is
a vibration but with the hardships of
everyday life there's a bombardment that
we all constantly get in our everyday
lives coming from a ton of different
sources it's not always easy to listen
to that intuition in that sixth sense or
to properly comprehend or feel the
vibration when we're in a good place
absolutely and I always tell people you
go into a room you feel something's off
get out of there without a dog listen to
your intuition you can feel the
vibration a hundred percent yeah that
was a man you know and it's I don't
think that any of this stuff is a
respecter of persons right like it only
works for angels or it only works for
Christians right it's kind of like a
universal energy code and and some
people are more sensitive to it even
from birth and people kind of have these
taboo moments and you can look back over
your life and I remember like doing like
drug deals and stuff we're going to buy
drugs and we will pull up at somebody's
house and like it's just ain't right man
this ain't something this is fishy these
are some bad people we got to be careful
you we need to relieve I'm not going you
know what I'm saying you have these
these premonitions if you will and you
can kind of see what's gonna happen you
see ahead of time you know hold on wait
we can't do this you are you've already
played it out that's a supernatural
ability people don't even know it they
just they just like oh I just I just
have a weird feeling but that's a
supernatural ability right absolutely a
hundred percent like I said not everyone
has to do what I do every single human
being has a soul it comes from God
therefore we all have a certain ability
to feel to see and to understand and
again some of us are more
or in tune to that energy not vibration
others are more open to it absolutely
but everyone has the possibility and the
ability to tune into it to feel those
things but again we have to listen to
ourselves when we do and you're right
it's not about being at you who were a
Christian or being white or being black
or whatnot I always tell people like
here in Quebec we have what's called
hydro-quebec
now hydro-quebec is the energy it feeds
actually half of the United States
eastern seaboard with electricity it's
actually coming from Canada where I am
so I always say we're like a light bulb
and God is is putting in each of us his
electricity so regardless of who we are
or where we come from we all have a
piece of garden styles regardless the
color the shape of the light bulb it's
getting electricity right and I think
it's a mistake that a lot of people make
from all sides of the fence where we're
better than them you know our way it's
the only way our way so right when one
of the things I learned I'm 45 now I
stopped a lot to learn one of the things
I learned is we all come from the same
place what we do with it that determines
whether we're good or bad are we using
that any gift we have whether it's the
sing to draw to be a speaker like
yourself to spread messages are we using
it for positive or for negative and
that's what determines whether or not
we're a good or a bad person yeah again
going you know going back to energy it's
no respecter of person it just is you
know it's people who use this who use it
for good people use it for bad it's like
the life force the essence we call it
the holy spirit if you will people like
no you can't use the Holy Spirit for bad
wanna bet
there's people do it all the time now
it's a dangerous thing to do it's very
dangerous you know you're there's
judgments that come along with that in
the end once you get found out it's
you're done it's over but there's people
who do it in churches all across America
again use rabbis and and people who kind
of have a form of godliness but denies
there of like you know and what about
people who get into this stuff maybe
some of these ghost hunters and stuff
who don't bring God or the light into
this or Jesus or anything like that is
that dangerous to not bring in Christ
and into these experiences absolutely
amazing question and the answer is yes
because I always tell people there's two
sides to every coin if you're not
bringing the light if you're not
bringing God into it there's only one
other side that's gonna come into it and
you can't play around in the spirit
world you can't be part of the spirit
realm without being part of one of the
two sides so any of these people who are
not bringing God into it it's the other
side guaranteed and I have people come
and see me every day and one of the
things they always say to me Jared why
is it I've seen 20 25 30 50 people over
the years you're the only one who speaks
about God and you know what my answer is
and it's not because I'm patting myself
on the back I'm not and it's not because
I'm better than anyone else
but my answer is maybe I'm the only one
you saw who's actually dealing with God
because if he ain't talking about God
chances are you ain't dealing with God
so your question is is spot on
you hit it on right on the nail if they
ain't dealing with God they could only
be dealing with one other side yes
interesting you say that because Jesus
was kind of accused of that right when
Jesus was casting out demons some of the
the rabbi's some of the Pharisees came
up say hey the only reason you're
casting out these demons listen to you
is cuz you're affiliated with them
you're in cahoots with these with Satan
you know and in Jesus kind of settled on
Satan that would never cast out Satan
your Kingdom divided against itself
shall not stand so they tried to accuse
him of doing that but but very well it
may seem that some people are doing that
and some people are in cahoots with with
these spirits and have and have
different packs and things like that
with with these entities as well let me
ask you about this here's something that
you know we've heard a lot especially on
like coast-to-coast a.m. when they
talked to some of the big named
exorcists right they talked about think
I think I think it was Rob
Father Malachi Martin talks about that
the life expectancy of a true Exorcist
it's only a couple of years like once
you really get into and start dealing
with the darkness and this is coming
definitely from a Catholic perspective
but they say that you know once you
start you have a target on your back and
there's almost like that you're gonna go
mad you're just gonna take a toll on
your body and they really you know look
at it it's almost like signing up to die
if you become an exorcist that you're
gonna deteriorate quick dealing with
these spirits and they're gonna come
after you would you believe that to be
true do you think that I mean I feel
like that's a fierce statement I don't
think it's true but what would you say
it's a big statement a lot of them say
that so it has to be this I think it I
think it kind of makes it to where like
you want to make sure that you've done
the homework and you you're really you
know you know I think following crisis
is a you know petition or just a a call
to die daily even though right dying to
yourself down to your will and you have
to walk a certain line so that's that's
part of it you can't partake of this you
can't go there you can't partake in this
conversation because you know that these
entities kind of hang around these type
of vibrational interest if you will so
the life expectancy that that quote what
do you think about that I'm going to
tell you that I believe there there is
some truth to what they say I will not
agree a hundred percent honestly my body
is breaking down it's taking a terrible
terrible toll on my body that being said
a lot of these people choose to be
Exorcist
okay I was chosen I didn't choose to go
into it and people who know me would say
that at some point I'm almost like a
rock I feel the emotion but I don't show
it and it's almost as if I've been
prepared my whole life to go into battle
day after day the way that I do now yes
my body is breaking down
yes it plays on my mind yes it plays on
my
like I said before it's a very very big
sacrifice and a heavy burden what I say
that it's only a few years a lifespan no
I wouldn't say that that being said I
can understand where they're coming from
just to see what they see or what I see
on a daily basis is enough to make the
average human want to go into a corner
and never come up so there is some truth
to what they say that's an interesting
thing to explore too because I've had a
couple people on here who have daily
encounters like yourself I can look back
over my life and it's like I've had so
many as well of like spiritual
supernatural or otherworldly demons
angels ghosts fairies like you name it
all of these encounters and I've
interviewed other people with hundreds
of encounters and then we've talked to
people who haven't had any and the weird
thing is when they're there are
specialists they're an expert in the
field and like they've written books but
they've never had a supernatural or
paranormal encounter and I'm like I'm
left to scratch in my head like hold on
alright you know what I'm saying it
almost seems I'm a lot of this is theory
for you what is it that someone like me
or yourself or a lot of other people who
have had so many many it's almost like
you're spoiled it's a daily thing but
then other people they're oblivious to
it is there like a genetic disposition
that kind of goes on with you again you
know I chose you from your mother's womb
type deal God like how does that work
when someone has a it's almost like
again we're spoil we had so many you
know if you count it as a blessing to be
yeah I do you know a blessing and a
curse maybe at the same time well first
of all that's not a great question and I
do see it as a blessing you know even
when I'm in the middle of a stigmata
session where I'm screaming out in pain
I ski it is it's a blessing because I
know what comes from above so yes it is
a blessing and I think why some of us
are more in tune to it some of us will
have these experiences and others don't
is a you have to believe and there's a
lot of people claim to be experts
excuse my language you don't know [Â __Â ]
it's like someone who talks
Israel the Middle East who's never been
there some who writes a book on diets
like dr. Atkins the man died he was
obese so I'm not taking advice for a man
who died when he was obese knowing he
would I should be eating right someone
who writes a book about marriage who's
been two or seven times I don't want
your opinion thank you very much so a
lot of these experts really have no clue
what they're talking about and you're
right
it's theory okay and what sets you and I
and many others apart from those who
don't have experiences not only do we
believe but because we're open to the
energy were in tuned to understanding
that there is energy and that there is
vibration so we're open to it it's only
natural that entities and other energy
will gravitate towards us right it's
like the battery karna might be the
negative and the positive for two
magnets so when we're open to that
energy it's natural that that energy
will gravitate our way someone who's not
open even if it's right in front of
their face they won't even know this
it's like if you build it they will come
and you have to build the framework for
the belief system to kind of have the
energy fill it in and it shows you that
literally all things are possible like
if you can believe it if you can imagine
it then you can manifest it and it can
show like there's entities and things
that you know we don't even know exists
that we can't you know their thought
forms their vibrations the Bible calls
them strongholds and and things like
that and we think that they all look
like this they all look like these
gremlins so they all look like a ghost
or whatever the case is and there's
there's so many entities and angels
Hebrews says that we entertain angels
unaware
that there you know we encounter people
who are messengers of God and there they
just show up in your life to bring about
a message or to open a door for you even
you know and and I think we encountered
a divine like that on many occasions
without even knowing it and if we and
again like the portion that you've been
given and you look into it's it's gets
really deep but it even that is only its
its portion right absolutely absolutely
100% and you know look just I'm just
plugging in my phone
here so we can get if we can a little uh
a little more juice on my phone before
it dies you know look what I'm gonna say
is that I wish more people would get in
tune I wish more people would open up to
to getting out of what I call the matrix
and we really are living in a matrix and
it's not a positive thing right you know
as Keanu Reaves himself said he said the
matrix is a documentary and I believe it
100% I think people need to get their
head out of their iPhones and their
iPads and I'm added a computer and even
out of certain books and they need to
look around them they need to start
feeling they need to start seeing with
their soul they need to start feeling
that energy with their body and just to
give you an example I've lost a lot of
my eyesight especially in one of my eyes
it's almost completely gone and one of
the reasons is I see a lot more with my
soul now than I do with my eyes right so
obviously I have to be careful when I'm
on the motorcycle because it's not my
soul that's gonna save me when I'm on
the motorcycle but not but I think what
people really need to start doing and as
this battle approaches they need to
start feeling what's right and what's
wrong as opposed to listening to what
they're told it's right and wrong yeah
I'm with you man a lot of people you
know when it comes to religion in and of
itself we just it's right because you
were told that it was right you know and
you were told that this is what what is
and what isn't and I think many of us
are you know from birth even we've kind
of always questioned and narrative and
then we've kind of set ourselves up to
explore the higher dimensions in the
other realms and things like that that
are just opened up to us for me it was
an experience it was an encounter when I
was a kid that really opened up those
doors I had the sleep paralysis thing
happened to me when I was like 4 years
old
and it stuck with me my whole life and
it always brought me back to what the
hell was that and it would lead me to
watch movies it would lead me to you
know be into things or even ask those
questions at parties and other people
say yeah I've had
happened to and really trying to get to
the bottom of something that happened
when I was four that opened up the door
to do what I'm doing today even right
having a conversation with you about all
of this kind of stuff is some things
that that that have happened when it
comes to maybe even that topic of sleep
paralysis and shadow beings and demons
and we've heard so many names of what
these entities are they appear in
different forms they the man with the
top hat and a trench coat appearing in
your room who are these people have you
ever had any personal encounters with
them or have you ever had to help people
who were who were having these
encounters as well you sweep around yes
III kill I kill them every week and
what's funny is I did a video about
sleep paralysis and the medical
institution will tell people that it's a
normal condition even though they can't
really explain it
ya call [Â __Â ] sleep paralysis very
simply put is when an entity is holding
down someone sometimes you could feel
them on you sometimes the person can't
breathe
sometimes they can't speak and at the
end of the day I get so many phone calls
from people who suffer sleep paralysis
and it never goes away because they tell
the doctor and the doctor says this is
simply a condition you can't fight this
with a pill or medication sleep
paralysis happens all the time it
happens to millions and millions of
people and in my opinion in my
experience it is always as you called it
a shadow person an entity a demon that
is up to no good that is holding someone
down harming them etc etc and I've had
I've had people in my office six foot
five these are people collecting money
in the streets tough people okay you hit
them with a baseball bat the bats gonna
break and they're whimpering in my
office because they're being held down
by something at night the day cats eat
yeah okay and you're a hundred percent
right
it is absolutely shadow people whether
it's it's a man with a top hat and a
trench coat whether it's a creature or
half-animal half-human they could take
many different shapes as you you pointed
out earlier
many different forms they can they can
appear a million different ways but I
would urge anyone who suffers sleep
paralysis if you did as a kid to reach
out to someone who knows what they're
doing in the spiritual field for help
because sometimes this ends very very
bad people can get killed during sleep
paralysis they get choked they can't
breathe with your stories all the time
healthy people waking up there they're
dying in the middle of the night while
they're sleeping so it's very very
dangerous
yeah it's interesting when it comes down
to you know the medical community saying
yeah it's something that happens you
know your your mind wakes up when your
body's still asleep so your cognitive
you can look around but you can't move
and you just get scared right okay if
that's real why is there always a demon
in the room there you go why do I wait
why's there always a demon watching me
in the corner or laying on my chest well
it's just the mind and you just get
scared and you think that because you're
still kind of in-between the waking and
sleep stays okay well why is it unicorn
why isn't it children why isn't it
something beautiful something fun why is
it always these grotesque entities that
are trying to you know mess with me and
scare me why is it it's something
beautiful and that's one of the things
you don't and it makes you look into it
a little bit more hold on there would be
something different it would be
elephants in my room I would wake up and
there's these all these elephants right
no that's not the case there are little
monsters and grotesque entities right
correct and keep in mind the same
medical community and not all of them
feel the same way there are brave people
in the medical community who have stood
up and said hold on a second there's
more truth to what we're being told or
what we're telling people but it's the
same medical community that always
diagnoses somebody with schizophrenia or
another mental disease when they tell
you they feel they're possessed or
they're hearing voices and in my humble
opinion I'm not a doctor I'm not a
psychiatrist I'm not a psychologist but
in my opinion out of most people that
I've ever met who are diagnosed with the
severe mental illness these people were
not sick they were possessed and I truly
believe that most people in a mental
institute are not sick they're possessed
there
you I'm hearing voices the thing is
telling me to do things and they're 100%
accurate
I always tell a psychiatrist how does it
explain them speaking a foreign language
they would still need to know that
language to be able to speak it it
wouldn't be their alter personality
speaking that language how is it their
eyes are blocked why does that
superhuman strength and you're never
gonna get an answer so it's the same
people telling you well you know don't
worry about it sleep paralysis is okay
it's just the condition they you know so
I'm not surprised by that at all yeah
yeah I'm I'm with you man it's uh this
you know I think in some cases I think
that science is is helping us like this
the science scientific community has
given us the science behind the
spirituality like sometimes they're
they're proving our religious belief so
this creation of God or what it would
whatever it's going on like there's some
interesting stuff being said but then a
lot of them kind of work to like like
like their agenda is to disprove the
supernatural oh that's just this
assisted what it is it's not it's not
God it's not an angel it's it's just
your mind playing tricks on you some
would say oh it's just DMT there's DMT
released in your brain when you go to
sleep and it's allowing you to see this
this weird stuff or they're trying to
explain it away with scientific um same
methodology I think there's a marriage
there I think that there is some like
scientific reasons why we believe
certain things and I think that our
spirituality is very primitive it's very
old and it evolves over the years now we
have some kind of framework from the
scientific community for those who are
even when people don't know it like I
like that because they don't know that
they're given some you know some
validity to your faith and and for some
of the things that you experience on a
daily basis but they are and it happens
all the time it's very interesting
agreed and it does go hand-in-hand
spirituality and science when used
properly complement each other and I'll
take Albert Einstein as a perfect
example one of the greatest scientists
that has ever lived or at least one of
them he said at the end of his life that
the more I studied the more I got into
science I've come to the conclusion at
the end of my life that there must be a
God because science could not
explain everything that I've seen so the
point being is that science and
spirituality can absolutely go hand in
hand in improving the same things but
coming from two different angles you
know it's like if you go to the Old
Testament we have something called the
Talmud where you have two rabbis
debating a point and they're always
arguing so people say how can they be so
smart if they're if they're always
arguing and my answer is very simple
they're both right depending from what
angle they're coming from they're seeing
it from their perspective and their
point of view so from a scientific point
of view they can be right just as we are
from a spiritual point of view yep
good stuff well his new book is heaven's
messenger Jared thank you so much for
coming on the podcast I'll link the book
at Tru sticker calm people to be able to
go straight to the website and get a
copy of the book it has a five-star
rating on on Amazon as well right now
man thanks so much for this interview I
really enjoyed hanging out with you and
you don't sound look look forward to
working with you more man the next time
you put out a book or you want to come
on here and talk about some of these
experiences man the platform is open
thanks so much for hanging out awesome I
really appreciate it god bless you for
doing what you do truth seeker you're
seeking the truth that's what we all
gotta do I want to thank your audience
for being part of this and once again it
was an honor and a pleasure to be on
thank you so much all right brother many
blessings thanks so much we'll do it
again alright peace thank you bye bye
Jared heavens messenger ladies and
gentlemen
interesting man I like the paranormal
conversations again I think that it
proves not only God or faith but that
something outside of ourselves exists
and it gets into a lot of things too
right because we're talking about like
these things kind of fill in your
framework your ability to believe if you
believe it then you can receive it and
then you say okay I'll believe in this
and then you'll begin to see it
everywhere again when people start
researching the Illuminati symbolism
Masonic orders and then you step out
into
any city and you're looking at the
architecture and you're looking at the
symbolisms and the signs and you begin
to like be overwhelmed because the
evidence is everywhere I can't believe
nobody noticed can't believe nobody's
seen this these pennies pentagrams and
he's all seeing knives everywhere in
these triangles why is every symbol a
triangle why is every car company named
after Star God's like why is it you
start seeing all this stuff because
you're open to it the research and the
abilities what you've looked at has
opened up your mind to receive that
information and now you see it
everywhere you don't see you know you go
out and buy a red car a red Ford Fusion
and now you're seeing them everywhere
I buy the car now everybody else buys
the car no these cars have been out
there now you use your consciousness is
open to seeing them everywhere because
now you have one and you start looking
for them and you start seeing it
everywhere so you see you're able to see
the connections to see the dots as your
framework expands I think that's a
really deep concept to look into this to
see that all of this stuff comes out of
the imagination of the creative mind
that we create for ourselves these
experiences the law of attraction
manifestation you know and it goes goes
back to our subconscious mind and
retraining our subconscious mind to
expect good thing I mean there's a lot
of people who expect bad stuff they're
looking for people to rip them off
they're looking for people to gossip
about them like I've been there that's
not good that's not healthy you know
you're looking for people to to you like
waiting for people to leave you out of
your life
and then when people give a walk out of
your life and then when you find you
know conflict with someone you go ahead
and write them off because you're just
you're so used to it and you begin to
look for it you you don't have lasting
relationships you don't have lasting
jobs you go to jobs and you only work
there for a short period of time and
you're gone there's no stability you
begin to look for these things and it
becomes a
adaptive process for you and it becomes
your norm one night stand after one that
you never can find people you know and
it's like retraining your subconscious
mind
what about start looking for blessings
everywhere what about like changing your
mind just trying it instead of looking
for people to leave you look for people
look for strong relationships look for
you know people who are gonna compliment
what you do gonna compliment your
weaknesses a team a friendship of people
like start looking for the stuff then
you start seeing it everywhere oh my god
there's all these encouraging people
with me there's all these people who
always they want to see me succeed like
you may be in a situation where
everybody around you wants you to fail
they're waiting for you to fail your mom
your grandmother your best friend they
all want to see you fail that's weird
right get out of that change your
thinking look for the people around you
that want to see you win they're out
there man they exist build that tribe
find that framework of people step into
that and then create from that place
right the belief man we're in these
we've got all of these like ungodly
beliefs is what we call them destructive
behaviors or these subconscious thoughts
that are working against us like your
mind is working against you your mind is
so powerful that it creates your reality
your expectation what are you expecting
something to expect and nothing you just
it's just a default what hey come
whatever man I don't care it is what it
is I've just accepted my lot the crazy
thing is like with age it comes even
faster and you just kind of set into
your stinking thinking you kind of set
in to well this is the way everything is
but there's somewhat somewhere in that
there's a little kids screaming oh
there's got to be more I'm gonna try it
I'm gonna reach out I'm gonna try it
find that voice man the voice of that
that inner child and and let it speak
man find that that love recapture and
manifest it you talked about the
shamanism or what a shaman is or a
walker but
the world to think that again a shaman
this one who can pull things out of
those states that manifest it into your
reality you know instead of always being
someone with the handout give something
away instead of looking for people to
bless you all the time start blessing
other people like reciprocate that stuff
and then you'll find out that it just
keeps coming more and more and more it's
very interesting in the smallest my new
level we go back to spirituality is
practical like all of that stuff is
practical practical enough that it deals
with your thought life what are you
thinking about what are you entertaining
what are you listening to you know cuz
you're gonna get it it's coming back
like what you entertain and all of that
stuff subconsciously is building the
framework for your belief subconsciously
you don't even want to do it like you
want good stuff you want good people in
your life you want friends but you just
stuck with all these people that are
working against you man so again we've
seen some beautiful things in life we're
gonna continue to see more the framework
isn't insane man with the realm of
belief you know whether it's again we
can talk about supernatural entities
aliens angels fairies gnomes spirit
beings all of that kind of stuff like
are they real can you see them if you're
looking for them you can see anything
again the Illuminati symbolism but it
makes sonic symbolism let's don't even
say lumen I just say make sonic assemble
ISM you see it everywhere because you're
looking for it you're looking for spirit
entities you're looking for a
demonically possessed people there's no
shortage if you look and you're gonna
see them everywhere people would
character flaws you're gonna see it
everywhere you know there's some people
like when you get kind of deep in
religion and you go to church and stuff
like that you start seeing uh people
everywhere who are like in stuck in that
process and then you go to church and
use you go to church and you look for
the wrong you're waiting to get offended
you go to you waiting for the pastor to
say something that you don't agree with
you waiting for the pastor to say
something that contradicts your belief
and because you're deep and you you're
studied you're well studied you're
waiting for that stuff and guess what
you're gonna find it because you're
waiting for it you can find it
everywhere and you're looking for and
you find a reason not to go because you
were looking for it the whole time you
just need it had to have someone to
vocalize it
oh there's I can't believe you we're so
past that you know you started looking
for that stuff everywhere and it's like
a negative thing that's like a negative
flaw in your thinking do it for the
other other like you can easily sit
through a Church sermon even when you
agree with disagree with most of this
stuff and say you know what I'm just
gonna get I'm gonna hold on to the good
and I'm gonna get just spit out all the
other stuff I mean you got you have to
kind of like change your thinking to be
that way if not you're just gonna be
especially in the truth-seeking movement
or the woke community people become very
condescending talking down speaking down
on other people all that kind of stuff
because of their their version of the
truth is the only one that's writing
that kind of stuff so you know it's a
real interesting when it comes to
unpacking your framework believin for
the unbelievable stuff right
supernatural when he was shot out quick
story man I ended up working with a
client the other day who reached out to
me for a private session and I heard his
story it was crazy
his name's Roger and he just did like
they think it was 10 years in a
penitentiary and it was really weird how
he found my work he found an mp3 player
while he was in jail and it didn't have
any batteries in it he found this mp3
player that somebody left and he put
batteries in it and it only had one song
on there and the song that was on the
mp3 player was one of my song he was
actually neurogenesis no no it was a the
imagine Atrix song that I have and it
talks with it talks about like
all of this stuff that we've been
talking about today the the supernatural
you know believing in the unseen
psilocybin you know ETS all kinds of
stuff and he was sitting in jail
listening to this song over and over and
over again and it gave him hope and it
gave him the the created all and wonder
to live again and to dream and things
like that and so when he got out he was
looking into my music and got all the
music and has been been listening to my
music and then seem that I do private
consultations and one-on-one so he hit
me up on booked a session with me man
and it was just really interesting it
was the first time that first of all
he'd been listening to you know my
podcasts and been listening to the music
then he got the book assassin so for him
it was just awesome to talk to me and to
have you know to ask questions and then
to just be the first person in his life
that he's been able to kind of have
these conversations with freely like
outside of jail you know because like
didn't know anyone to that he could talk
about this kind of stuff with and I
introduced him to the community and did
a guided meditation with him and his
girl and it was beautiful but I thought
that was interesting man that he found
this mp3 player in jail put batteries in
it and my music was on there and that
opened him up to just a whole nother
realm of belief and giving some
framework again for things that he's
experienced his whole life but you don't
know who to talk to about about this
stuff you know you're gonna seem crazy
if you try to talk to you know your
family at the Christmas dinner about
this kind of stuff you don't know who to
talk to so again podcast and and message
boards and discord communities and
servers or whatever this is the kind of
stuff that we have the ability to take
advantage of this technology to find a
group of people just to let people know
look you're not alone you're not the
only one who believes in this stuff
you're not the only one who feels like
you're crazy
again like like the brother said a while
ago if you go to the doctor and say hey
I'm hearing voices like you know like
what what's going on and then you don't
have no framework you know people hear
voices you're crazy you're crazy person
and then you start reading the Bible
like wow these people is hearing voices
all throughout the
in other religious texts as well they're
hearing the voices and encountering
angels and it was beautiful benevolent
voices you have to discern the voices
the bible says that my sheep know my
voice and a strangers voice they want to
follow be able to discern the voice
between the voice of the Father and God
Jesus and the deceivers like there's
other energies out there that want to
speak to you and they use your voice it
speaks almost in third person or first
person I hate you know you think that
it's you you think that you're these
voices of speaking from within of giving
you all these weird ideas and you're
entertaining it and you got to cut that
stuff off but get giving some framework
again I have a song called voices that
is talking about voices that speak to
you and and the voices that come to you
but I tell you what they are they're not
you know at least the healthy ones the
ones that you should entertain you know
the ones that you should you know this
conversation with God this conversation
with the spirit realm all of this stuff
versus the voices of demons are either
negative vibes right you got negative
stuff to do or whatever like don't
entertain that stuff see you know I'm
hearing voices Seraphim Rephaim Malachy
you know these angelic beings the
vibrations of love it's a voice it's an
essence and it speaks from within us and
we all here hear the voice of God and
like we hear again it's translated
through our imagination a lot of who
think you know spiritual experiences
premonitions hey I got a bad feeling you
know all of this stuff is communicated
to us you know and we're just trying to
find some framework for it and it could
be hard so
I just see I see a bunch of stuff coming
through on the chat here a bunch of
people hanging out shout out to
everybody hanging out Kristi Johnson
prophetic words what's up brother the
Juggalo 509 shout out to Davy Jones
gothic mystic a seam flying penguin was
here a while ago a bunch of people a
bunch of people hanging out in in twitch
as well shout out to everybody hanging
out on Twitter watch him shout out to
you guys I took the family to see frozen
the other day and I really wanted to see
that after Christmas Eve we wouldn't
seen it frozen too and I wanted to see
it because of my good friend Chris
Carter talked about it and was saying
that he enjoyed it because of all of the
spiritual mysticism and elementals and
things like that that were in it and it
kind of it kind of painted that's that
nature was alive watching frozen I'll
tell you what man again when you become
conscious of it you start looking for it
everywhere Chris Carter goes to see
frozen I mean there's millions of people
go and see the movie frozen frozen - and
they don't pick up on any of that stuff
but those who have a trained mind and a
trained eye to see in the spirit you're
watching a totally different film you
know kids are just watching Olof and
they want to laugh and the little
princesses and stuff but like there's
little gems in this stuff man
Disney and all of these people they give
you gems where I was talking to Steve
grant the other day we were talking
about the movie and I really haven't
heard a lot of people talk about this
movie but it's a one that's real big for
me was The Adjustment Bureau with Matt
Matt Damon talking about the Elohim
talking about the watchers in the hidden
hand that is controlling destiny and
kind of opening up these doors and
making things happen for you and that
movie was about it and I quoted that
movie in my song - knowing and there's
so many of them and when
you're conscious of it you see it
everywhere you can't watch any movie and
not see it and there's people who will
again you know you you look for the
negative and everything so when you
watch these movies all you see is that
the Illuminati symbolism you see Masonic
imagery you see bad stuff or hidden
meanings and messages and you just think
that's what you see because you're
looking for it other people are gonna
look for the good that they see in these
movies all of that stuff exists you
can't have one without the other like
there's a there's a balance of energy
and you pick what you want to look for
what you want to see so it's up to you
to the pure all things are pure as the
scripture says to the UM pure being pure
all things are pure like everything is
evil nobody is is good enough you know
you know you start looking for flaws and
everything and you can find it whatever
you're looking for you're gonna find it
again just knowing how powerful that is
man going and knowing how powerful that
is Davy Jones says he's gonna see the
new Star Wars tonight like it was it was
a choice between the two whether it was
going to be Star Wars or frozen but
since Chris Carter gave this long rant
about frozen - I made sure I went to see
it and then you know we have we have a
song about nature spirits I mean
Illuminati Congo called the invisible
creatures of the five elements and it's
complement that one and once I made sure
I sent that to Chris Carter as well
talking about Paracelsus and the you
know spirits of the earth air fire water
and it was interesting too because in
frozen there was like a earth air fire
water and they were like there was just
one more spirit there was one more
element that connected them all and it
was essentially the human spirit it was
essentially us or what we have ether
earth air fire water and ether or breath
right which is the spirit which is very
interesting that they're giving you this
esoteric occult knowledge in this
beautiful fun-loving Disney song which
was interesting and it was really cool
so man make sure y'all check that out
and look for that stuff in the movie
sometimes you got to be consciously
aware I mean early on you I feel like
you like when it's all new to
you like all the stuff is new then you
uh you big you're more sensitive I
remember going to see like man go and
see The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe
and like having a supernatural
experience watching that and Aslan who's
a symbol of Christ the triumphant they
kill him and he comes back and he saves
the people and the Lion of Judah and
just looking at the allegory and the
symbolism all within the movies really
interesting right
not everybody saw like made those
connections some people just seen this
movie about this line in these kids they
didn't didn't know any of the allegory
nothing to tie together but for someone
who has done the knowledge in a
researcher what you're watching a
totally different movie Lion the Witch
and the Wardrobe we look at the Lord of
the Rings all of the myths and the magic
in and the supernatural that is tied
into that stuff there's a movie called
the secret of NIMH Z I think it is
really good with Rainn Wilson talking
about free energy and portals to the
other world and stuff like that there's
so many of them out there man but when
it's it's all fresh to you it's new and
you see it everywhere all of these
movies are just giving you pieces and
synchronicities and all of this stuff
it's real beautiful so make sure y'all
stir that and wander up when you're
watching this stuff I look for it man
sometimes you got to look forward again
if you're not looking for you're not
gonna see it you're not gonna see it
you're just gonna read the script what
you're in there's a level there too I'm
just the movie and the script for what
it is it's a good movie
you know what I'm saying but when you're
able to kind of tie those those dots
together it becomes a lot more magical
you almost just kind of let the divine
teach you through everything through the
movies through the conversations through
the friendships through what's going on
in your life you're just looking for
everything in your life to be an
allegory the movies that you're watching
the music that you're listening to
we got my daughter and a new cell phone
for Christmas and it was so funny like
as she was opening it up and she's found
it was a cell phone like there was a TV
on in the background and a guy said cell
phone at the same exact time that she
opened her cell phone like just it's
like you know these little things like
that they just kind of connect the dots
man and just kind of like
you know that you're on the right path
and you're seeing you're you know
listening for the signs and
synchronicities and they're there
whether you create them whether it's
coming out of you I mean this whole
experience is coming out of us with
everything that you believe and
everything that you've tapped into in
your life it begins to manifest and
become your reality so you know you are
a co-creator join the process like be
conscious I understand universal law
understand all of these laws you know
whether you want call the universal laws
the laws of Miette you don't say the Ten
Commandments like this is us all of
these principles that are a lot older
than us and then a lot of whether it's
successful people that taught these
whether they're spiritual people whether
they're people who were financially
successful and you're trying to make
these strides in the 2020 for yourself
and to try to make something happen to
create your own podcast to create your
own channel to create your own business
to go into business being a healer and
being a counselor or a spiritual
conscious Kotche whatever it is man like
there's practical ways to do it you
don't have to reinvent the wheel look
for somebody who's already doing it and
there's a lot of people out there again
I do one-on-one sessions and and help
people and I really want to focus on
that more with this coming year off
really you know I give you this stuff in
the podcast it comes out you know we do
a lot of different things and but it's
more of a bigger groups but I want to
narrow it down to really bring this
stuff out of you
whether it's to teach you how to do it
whether it's to give you hands-on
one-on-one experiences with it setting
up sessions and stuff like that I want
to see people man step out into the best
life that the dreams and visions first
you got to recapture it I can't capture
it for you you have to do that yourself
but once you do that and I want to teach
you how to do that man you know and I
think I don't think I know that the
podcast is definitely doing that for
people it's helping people recapture
their dream it's helping people feel
uncomfortable settling for for second
best day they want to make sure that
they take advantage of
everything that God has given them in in
this life and bringing it to fruition
those dreams to recapture those dreams
and bring them out again going back to
the childlike faith without the faith of
a child would you have to embrace the
kingdom of God like these little ones in
order to see it play out in your life
and it works I'm excited for 2020 man a
lot going on a lot that we're working on
right now we're gonna be working on some
new music as well I know people are
waiting for that that's a that's a
touchy subject man music because like
again I felt like like for me personally
again I've set the bar so high with some
of these songs and the beauty and the
creativity and the essence that was
capturing that was captured in the song
like it has to be that I don't want to
put out anything that's not as good as
the last song so that's uh that's kind
of sometimes that's hard to do
everything has to line up the producer
has to come with a beat that is just as
good or better than the last beat and
you always want to step it up I
definitely don't want to just throw
something together and put it out there
that's that's just you know a standard
for like walking and perfection if you
will you know we're definitely you know
what our own worst critics and
perfectionist but then again you want to
do everything in excellence you don't
want to just half way do anything you
want to make sure that you you put it
out there I want to do a video too I see
a lot of these videos are kind of
popular so showing the back end of
YouTube and how to make money on YouTube
and how much money that someone's made
on YouTube so I'm thinking about doing a
video just kind of showing the back way
and how much money I made in in 2019 on
YouTube and 2018 just to show you look
you can do it like you know my numbers
ain't nothing there's people you know
making way more money and even the stuff
that we talk about on the podcast
most of the stuff ain't even monetizable
you know you get somebody on here and
they're talking about you know
Illuminati or any you know that stuff
immediately the the video is demonetized
you can't make any money from it because
you're talking about sensitive topics
you're talking about Jeffrey Epstein and
all this kind of stuff we're d
monetizing it so even of me describing
that like I
kind of have to be careful you know what
I'm saying because advertisers don't
want to put ads on that kind of stuff
I'll try not to get into most of the
conspiracy theories into this weird
stuff like that
but there's a niche and there's a market
for you know what we talked about here
and in spirituality obviously there's a
lot of money in it but when advertisers
come into play you there's not a lot of
money there you have to talk about
technology or kids toys as an
eight-year-old who's made like twenty
four million dollars this year opening
up toys so the ad revenue and stuff like
that is a lot more higher for that kind
of stuff that you can sell you toys and
retarget kids and stuff like that versus
talking about spirituality and those
kind of ads that come on something like
this but anyway if that stuff interests
you let me know I'm thinking about
making a video of it even if I put it on
a different channel I know that's not
for everybody but I really want other
people too
just to show you that it can be done
like with a YouTube page a YouTube
channel put ads on your stuff and pay
your light bill for the year you get
them enough money every month or
whatever to pay your light bill at least
pay a half of it maybe you know I'm
saying depending on your niche whether
it's a spiritual niche or whether it's
your teaching children how to crochet
whatever it is so thinking about doing
that gothic mystic says wait seriously
twenty-four million yeah they're
literally the little kid yep
the little eight-year-old boy so with
that I'm gonna say peace and Shalom
enjoyed hanging out with you guys and
always enjoy having this conversation
talking about spirituality in the
process it's always beautiful but man
make sure that you're encouraged to make
sure that you know you you do the inner
work because that's what it's about with
that I'm gonna say peace and Shalom make
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