Illuminati Congo  Manifestation  Bringing The Dream Realm Into Reality
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today a good friend of mine someone who
was a huge inspiration I really look
at--look up to this guy many of you know
him we've been working together for a
while we've done personal healing
sessions together we've gotten groups of
individuals together at my home we've
rented buildings and had him come
through via Skype to lead holotropic
breathing sessions conscious connected
breathing yoga sessions and it had an
amazing time this is somebody I really
look up to guys I'm telling you I God
my hat is off when we mentioned
spirituality or people just being
themselves man you're the first person
that comes to mind and I try to
name-drop you every chance I get
Illuminati Congo welcome to the show
brother man it's good to connect again
like I said we've been building for a
while got some some tracks that when I
first got into the esoteric mysticism
stuff putting that in my music you were
one of the first people I reached out to
to get on my album awake in the fire so
we connected way back when and then my
process my journey there was a point in
time where I come out of the Christian
Church and dealing with all that
knowledge and the backlash that I got
from my community they crucified me and
then so I tried to get rid of all of
that knowledge all of that info stuff
and get rid of it and many of you guys
seen that I had videos of just getting
rid of anything else you'll be anything
esoteric anything that was not Christian
oriented John's seen that video I was
burning books with so what's your what's
your take on that man kind of feel
people in on when you when you see as
useful as you make it and so I didn't
feel I didn't feel any type of way about
it there was a time when I was in the
Christian Church long ago
I remember I destroyed my De La Soul
tapes this was when I was like seven to
eighth grade and it was all all the
stuff that I destroyed the sock oh just
sent a tribe called quest's it was it
was real easy stuff easy-listening was
too hardcore but it wasn't Christian
yeah what some Christian so I was there
in in that mode at a time and really I
understand is this cycle and a season
for everything sometimes you got to get
rid of certain information and only
focus on what is working for you or what
resonates with your heart and sometimes
you have to have to explore just that
path as it is without any other
influences and so I understand that and
I didn't really feel any type of way
about it it was confusing you might I've
seen I see people do it similar things
and it's confusing at times but
confusion leads to Co fusion or the
integration and so I I just bless it and
as a stepping stone young the initiation
and learning process exactly man that
dude that's a good word you just said
the whole confusion place cuz coming out
of the Christian Church like there's
things that we've learned and it coming
out of that we got to unlearn the word
confusion and those circles are bad a
bad thing I remember being like him in
Bible studies with people and if
somebody's bringing something different
that they've never heard it's a little
deep even in the Christian circles there
would be people who didn't get it and
and and understanding that they would
say okay I'm confused they would link
that what the Scriptures I say confusion
is
of God I am not the author of confusion
right obviously all things work together
we can really tie that in on how you
know confusion is a good thing there but
they see that as a bad word
I'm confused this isn't of God and their
check they check out this doesn't make
sense I'm confused you're confusing me
but until we get to a point that we are
confused we're not going to search for
the truth and search for the answer so
essentially totally backward to that
thinking confusion is a it's not a good
thing but a great thing it can be a
catalyst for going beyond the addictions
and the contradictions that's good man
so much we can talk about like I said we
got it we got a couple songs that we've
worked on that aren't released yet I
plugged my patreon I mean there they're
there for you guys who want to hear them
and there's so many people supporting
you guys I've got we're getting great
feedback and I can't wait to release
those tracks to the general public man
we did one about the angels two angels
among us which is dude I'm itching to
get that track out to the public it's a
little piece for the video yeah we step
in our video game up man
with everything that we're doing and
we've been talking about some ideas for
some of the songs that we have together
even even some of the older ones kind of
kind of revisiting them to make them
happen it'd be awesome dude if we did
something for that imagined Atrix where
you you uh embodied pan you know saying
we'll come up you know say came up with
that with that with the outfit and
everything and I know I know we just
said that just for the sake of not for
the sake of wearing it but when you
listen to the song and the lyrics that
you came you came with so just imagine
you coming in as an entity and maybe
even you channeled those lyrics I don't
know but you came in you say I'm not
from this place I'm from inner space so
you're basically coming in introducing
yourself as another being and explaining
where you came from
so my you know my my gears are working
uh sigh okay well you know how can we
make this happen to be something
beautiful and I was thinking man and you
guys in the chat room you know I know
most of you guys know this song to let
give us some feedback so maybe like
where we're finding some ancient
manuscripts on pan and we can print out
some old works and make them look like
old relics or maybe find it and it
buried somewhere and we're reading
rituals on how to summon pan and so my
verse comes first and maybe we do that
in a video and then we do this
initiation ritual summon pan and then
your verse comes in and you just come in
I guess that sounds like good imagery
and that's a beautiful song man
everything that we've done together not
to I say not to puff your head up but
definitely the puff your head up you
need to be commended man everything that
we've done together has always been
beautiful
it's been amazing and your work ethic
when you say you're gonna do something
you do it right and you do it quick
there's never been a time where we got a
John on a track for a feature where we
had to wait six weeks eight weeks six
months things like this he's got it he
knocks it out man so I commend your work
ethic all that all the positivity that
you bring to the community you have
enabled me and encouraged me to seek
after my dreams and to see you and it's
a couple people that come to my mind one
is Joe Rogan who talks about this all
the time about finding what you love and
do that and you I think you embody that
whether it's hip hop whether it's the
healing arts and just taking everything
that you love and not trying to be like
okay I'm a guru I'm a yogi I'm only in
this Lane but I do a little bit of it
all and and I am who you get man to so
to see I think the world envies that
when they see somebody walking in there
calling and being authentic man so that
is envious man and seeing what you have
and what you've built over the years and
your dedication your study your learning
and sticking with it consistency dude
hats off man I know I'm getting along
with him dude but I just wanna I
definitely want to say thank you again
for just just being you really man
that's encouraging and edifying and I
receive it and I ground it and I expand
it and it must be a reflection of things
in you and ways of you because we can't
really notice things outside of us that
we're not resonating with inside they
don't have so I always tell people that
I can't give anything that I don't
already possess so whether it's you know
going through something and then if
you've been through a lot of stuff and
you kind of get the revelation and you
understand how universal law works how
calls and reacts works and so you
understand that you know whether you're
going through a tough time you know the
outcome you know it's about trusting
about keeping perfect peace and seeing
yourself through it and really tapping
in what we use it you know going into
the spirit realm whether it's through
trance state meditation conscious
connected breathing these things that
you teach and you've taught me to bring
into my life have totally helped and
then so listening to some of your
your-your-your newer music as well I
want to say your most recent music but
you have two projects you have health
wealth knowledge of self which that's
what I'm still I'm digging that but then
you also have a new one as well called
all is Tantra there's a song when
they're kind of related to the laws of
the universe universal law and it's
called the four laws of wealth and that
song is essentially a mantra that you
know I think words I think words are so
powerful man so that song in particular
I don't I don't know how often you don't
revisit it if you do it live or you
teach it to people but man that song is
so powerful to us to be able to recite
blessings over ourselves and to change
our thinking about money and about
people wanting to give us money not like
how can we hustle money how
we try to get money from people but
there's people who want to bless you
there's people who debt their ministry
there are blessing so that they can
bless others and to align yourself with
that you song for laws of wealth as a
powerful song man thank you that the
four laws of wealth I learned from
Leonard or my one of my main teachers
and so that song and the other song on
that album I'm alive now are both
directly from the influence of the
affirmations that we use in the
rebirthing breathwork community and so I
wanted to put ideas a lot of those
aren't our affirmations that are used
already some of them are were my own
affirmations mixed in and I just wanted
a couple those together because ideas
are the source of all wealth and the
source of all forms the source of all
creation it comes from the imagination
relating back to the imagined nature's I
also I have other album that I've
released just recently called a at the
same time as all as Tantra called
intergalactic okay yes all on there that
uh that backs up the same thing I backs
up the wealth laws to and it says Jah
children are Bobek Stila borrow do what
you love and the money will follow with
never wallow suffering no wait for
tomorrow love what you do and the money
will follow so do what you love and the
money will follow love what you do and
the money will follow
so you can love right where you at and
the money is gonna come and it'll you do
what you love they go together because
you I've been in places where I wasn't
working where I wanted to work and then
I was like you know what let me love
what I'm doing right now
so that I can develop the quality
mmm-hmm that will serve me no matter
what I'm doing that's being genuine
authentic person and and it worked you
helped transition from doing stuff that
wasn't really my thing
to doing my thing and loving it all the
way that's a big paradigm shift there so
I you know I come from the Christian
community I know you do too and there's
a couple different streams of thought
there but there was a big one that that
crept in that was ugly
when it when it comes to that stuff was
the prosperity gospel and so you have
the people like creflo dollar it's maybe
some of TD jakes but there's a lot of
people Eddy long was in on it I mean it
was all about it was this thing about
getting money and all the focus and
attention was on money and using
religion or using God to get what you
want
but what what made it so seem kind of
wicked there that wasn't a purity there
it seemed wicked because it taught these
principles that those who those who seek
after money will never have enough it's
like you never are content where you are
so there's this plate you know once you
get this job okay you want the better
job once you you know get in this
building high-rise you want to get in
the main office and they taught these
weird schemes on how to do that and how
God wanted you to do that yeah so
there's a there's that there's that
system versus the other side of the the
poor righteous teacher in that a man of
God a person of wisdom a guru they
shouldn't have any money because money
is wicked money is evil you have to sell
your soul for the riches and stuff and I
think both of those are definitely
extremes and I think both of them are
wrong but there's a balance there how do
we go from this just crazy I guess we
could call an ungodly belief program
that's running there that money is evil
that as you as a righteous person
shouldn't be affiliated with the things
of the world and you shouldn't care
about those how do we have that right
attitude when it comes to money I know
your music helps but I mean how do we
change our thinking on that
well wealth is what we are we are
infinite wealth already and so to have a
desire and a determination to produce
monetary income and and to flourish
financially is is a good thing I mean we
can go to the Bible and find all types
of quotes that would back up the fact
that living abundantly fruitful and
multiplying is is the way of a source we
can also find in the Bible how greed and
avarice over ice can actually prevent
prevent you from from experience in your
wealth because our true wealth is is
what seek ye first the kingdom and all
good things shall be added unto you
and so our first wealth is the kingdom
and the Kingdom is not there there it's
not outside it's within and so what is
the kingdom the king for me the kingdom
is bliss it is eternal bliss and ecstasy
and so if I seek that within how can I
find that within I do two things that
help bring that within so that what's
out there can can be on the same
frequency so I could be on the same
frequency as the wealth that I would
like to attract out there because
there's nothing really out
it's oh it's all in and you don't
understand that yeah yeah yeah there's
nothing out there per se that's more
just a perception yeah so the fact that
it's all within us I mean we could go
back to the Bible we could use the Bible
all day under the poor all things are
pure yeah and so wealth is is pure money
is pure well so what makes a
relationship with money harmful that's
when you don't have a relationship with
the kingdom with the kingdom of love
compassion imagination the kingdom of
presence that what's the presence that
is the acceptance the accepting
forgiving loving healing presence of
source infinite intelligence aka God aka
Christ
okay you and me when we live in
alignment it's it's beautiful that you
say that because those who demonize the
whole money thing they got to understand
that it doesn't say that money is the
root of all evil I know many people have
quoted it that way but it says the love
of money this / infatuation where you're
ready to kludge somebody out of their
position to get what they got like
that's that's wicked to to envy another
man's belongings that you will do harm
to him to get it or to do whatever it
takes no matter what you have to do to
get it that's evil that's weaker so the
scripture saying is the love of money
and I'm sure that word love wasn't even
the word of a Gabbay exactly was it it
was the word of lust or Cyrus lay oh yes
and because if you can have an
unconditional love for money that's a
different thing that's that's that
impartial view for everything where you
don't attach anything bogus you just
view it as it is and that's what that's
what you and money through true
love that's what it is it's just what it
is doing money through lust then it's
something that we think is gonna help us
when money doesn't help us only
creativity love compassion ingenuity
that's what help us so when we're
looking at the whole money thing and I
mentioned it a while ago you know they
always like preach this this notion that
even without saying it like you can
never have enough there's always more
get more and get more so we find
ourselves in this place that I believe
so the scripture says that a godly word
says it's in a Timothy it says godliness
with contentment is great gain right so
to be content where you are but to still
have the ambition to pursue the things
that you're called to do that the dreams
and visions that are within you to
manifest them like how do we stay and
this is this is a this is a little war
here like a like a dichotomy how do you
remain content I found ways to do it but
how do you remain content with still
saying okay there's things that I want
to accomplish and I have to work hard so
how do I keep that drive and not get
stagnant and I'm just gonna stay here to
be content but you still have the
ambition as well
well the bhagavad-gita speaks very well
on this is to do your work but don't be
attached to the results of your work
don't be attached to the to the results
of what you do but but to do it do we do
your best
so that's one one thing that I always
use that helps me be content out I have
desires I have works and things I'd like
to manifest in my life but I'm not
attached to the results of those things
I'm more so in love with the journey
more so in love with the actual doing of
it
the results are found in the doing of it
yeah that's why I'm content is my heaven
my paradise is in the actual practice
and that's that's one of my main main
ways of finding contentment and then
also knowing that desire they'll never
be an end of desire as long as people
are embodied we're going to desire
things in one way or another and so I I
accept that I accept that desire is not
bad
we talked about doing psilocybin
mushrooms and reading The Alchemist and
and and those two have something really
in common of before us chasing your
dreams understanding time how time works
if it's real is if it's an illusion but
there's an there's a sense of urgency
there to like not to waste it like life
is precious
don't waste it the things that you want
to do go ahead and pursue them and do
them and those two for me have a little
fire within me too and to embrace them
the now moment which I think I think the
other realms like to refer to it as but
dealing with that and having a burden
not only for yourself but to help other
people reach that place as well right
and teach them principles practical
examples that would that work not
theories and and to some some people on
outside it may seem like a theory until
you get into it whether you get into
breath work it's okay
how can breathing help me achieve my
goals how can breathe and help me to
change my thinking or to be in alignment
and there's so much science and
spirituality there but it works but I
want to go a step further and just talk
about how having empathy and compassion
for other people how do you look at
people like that because I remember when
it was first happening to me
and I had I had I had it for me like I
wanted to pursue my dreams and I seen
them they came back to my vision and the
universe aligns with you and teaches you
how to pursue them what to do patience
okay you have to learn these principles
and then I'm gonna open up doors and
essentially the universe becomes a
teacher God a Holy Spirit prana which
works through everything it becomes a
beautiful song and dance but to look at
the other people so I would see people
my bosses at the time when at the job I
was working and see them old grumpy
knowing that man they had a dream too
you know and that they've lost and it's
really important that dream and it
brought even brought tears to my eyes to
like okay when do you when are you
supposed to give up on your dreams when
are you supposed to say okay I've tried
long enough and this [Â __Â ] ain't working
like okay let me just bustle into this
nine-to-five and be a good employee
obviously you're gonna be wherever you
are
do it as you're doing it unto the Lord
right but when do you give up on it so
it did just crazy empathy where I'm just
driving through traffic and seeing the
system that's built where people are
going to work where they don't want to
be I'd say and maybe my numbers wrong
but I'm gonna say 90 I want to say 95
percent maybe the numbers way off and
this may be where I need help to look at
people and see them stuck in positions
where they don't want to be where they
gave up on the dream like how do you how
do you reckon that because I talked with
my wife and she helps me with this and
she says well you know there's some
people who enjoy working at McDonald's
like it but it brings a smile to their
face they love being needed and they're
content there there's they don't
I almost assume that everybody has that
inward drive took create and to manifest
like I do how do you reconcile that with
everybody else man and know you know who
to deal with in things man you know well
there's there may be people who want to
do some different things and there's but
everyone is where the
based on ways of thinking and believing
prior to wear wear them getting to where
they're at and so that that was an
experience working at McDonald's was an
experience that that person wanted and
no matter who you even if you want to be
somewhere else who like oh I hated
working at McDonald's something about
you wanted that experience to manifest
that's why you're there now as far as
the dreams go did you give up your dream
to do the person give up to work their
nine-to-five or to work at a fast-food
restaurant sometimes they're there
they're working towards their dreams and
they they're just doing that 9:00 to
5:00 to support to support that but what
happens is when we try to start
supporting that with a nine-to-five or
with driving with lyft or uber or
whatever if we lose sight of what we're
trying to do we can end up spending too
much time doing the other thing and not
doing our our own thing and it's it's
easy to get caught up in the hustle and
bustle searching for a dollar trying to
pay the bills there's so many reasons
why people could get stuck doing in
things that aren't there their main
Forte of what they really want to do and
getting stuck in those things does does
sort of prevent the world from reaching
its its full potential from my its full
potential for harm Oh harmonious
relations around the world I feel that
everyone has some type of
creative spark that King helped bring
almost like a utopia yeah I may seem a
little idealistic with this view but I
just believe in the goodness of people
and in the creativity of people and then
the uniqueness of people and I see that
we have things that contribute that
could help with issues that we might not
have even that the next person might
have never even viewed it that way so
how can we help people is by doing what
you're doing by doing what I'm doing
about being the best we can be in our
own field and like I said loving what
you do and doing what you love if we're
in a place that you don't like love love
love what you do there
yeah and love is gonna be that that bond
that that allows creativity and
prosperity and opportunities to come
forth that that love will do it every
time just loving what you do let
everybody know that the phone lines are
open we have a lot of people in the chat
room a lot of fans of Trucy got a lot of
fans of Illuminati Congo I think they go
hand in hand man it's so beautiful but
uh phone lines are open if you guys have
a question for John Illuminati Congo or
myself give us a call if you just want
to say hello the phone lines are open
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their number is in the description and
going across the top of the screen so
dealing with that like I call that
default like we just kind of get an
autopilot and we're here by default
we're definitely there for a reason to
learn because if you don't learn from
that season in that place that you're in
you're bound to make those same choices
and keep taking that test that's what I
call it over and over you'll find
yourself cap I'm not it make McDonald's
but I'm at Burger King or I'm at Hardy
so you had these other places which you
don't want to be right and you keep
finding yourself in these places where
these things are recurring over and over
and it's like okay what's going on am I
just a failure
I'm just a mess up like am I not
destined to have anything good in my
life my father he didn't have anything
he struggled and he didn't never own
anything so people have these ways of
thinking and I like how just even in
conversation a while ago you went back
to the solution of like okay this is how
could you mention it just in
conversation about how to come out of it
in the winter so talking about the ways
that we're thinking and the things that
we're doing over and over even
subconsciously or creating this life
that we're living and so that's that's
default most of us are in that by
default we don't know how to turn it off
is it is it possible am I gonna be this
way forever but you teach tons of
methods and they work about how to
retrain the brain to retrain the mind
and to focus on the now moment which
where all the power is to do that
through conscious connected breathing so
talk a little bit about the power to
retrain your brain to retrain the way
that you think and to bring about
essentially whatever you want into this
reality and make it manifest well I'll
give a quick example based on on my
latest creation and that's me and my
lady we just gave birth at home in our
tub with no Midwife no nurse no doctors
no one all we used was connected
breathing relaxation hypno birthing we
trained our mind for months before baby
came with scenes of pleasurable easy
birds and information that supported
that we didn't take in any information
from people that supported complicated
births or complications or anything of
that nature and if we ever had any fears
related to those things we would breathe
and talk about them and find
roots of these fears together during the
during the labor we use the breath and
I'm not gonna say there wasn't pain she
did feel intense surges are pain but
also intense surges of pleasure and
ecstasy and our baby came out you know
in a wonderful gentle way and births
that are usually if you if you look
around you're not going to hear about
situations like that happening that
easily why because people aren't using
the the power of the breath and the
power of the mind to their advantage
those are the main powers we have
available to us like [Â __Â ] the religion
and the philosophy the ideas and beliefs
the breath if you could stop believing
anything you believe in right now and
you'll still live stop breathing for ten
twenty minutes and see what happens so
you can stop believing in thinking all
the [Â __Â ] you believe in but stop
having awareness stop everywhere and you
do the awareness is primordial to the
thoughts and the ideas about awareness
that ideas about life and the breath is
before any name we could ever say before
anything we could ever do there has to
be breath there has to be the
circulation of energy which is breath so
those two things are the most important
to to build with from my perspective and
I've had most of my greatest
breakthroughs whether I'm using
mushrooms or cannabis or using no other
plant ally just the breath I'm always
using the breath if I'm if I'm using
mushrooms I use the breath to go deeper
if I'm building with the cactus I only
take just a tiny bit and the breath is
what allows me to really go deep I've
I've healed through the breath myself
many times and my son if you can see my
big son he I would tell him to come give
some testimonies about the laying on of
hands with the breath work and how how
that can actually heal things
immediately I've had miracles with that
uh-huh so I I'm a devotee of the breath
of life I'm a devotee of breath life and
awareness yeah and you do seminars you
lead yoga and you know people can book
private sessions with you through Skype
to do it for private one-on-one or to
lead group sessions as well we've done
many and I'm telling you guys well worth
it and what he's talking about is the
real deal this is this is the science
behind the spirituality and this is it
you know what he's saying has some some
weight to it I'm trying to think of a
pun what Brad he's not he's not blowing
smoke so I want it I wanted to talk
about too because you touched on
birthing and you talked you talking
about welcoming your new child and into
this realm and congratulations again say
it publicly yesterday last night I had
an interview with Hope Medford of
medicine for the people
NACO bear many people know who that
group is she's amazing I've got a saw
I've got a song with her as well but she
is actually a midwife and she's a
drummer she's really big in a percussion
she has been
to Egypt and she lived in Africa for
some time with families being a midwife
and I think she said she's participated
in over 450 births so it's awesome I'm
gonna share that interview with you
because I picked her brain on some of
this stuff and it's is good but um she's
basically talking about the same thing
you are as far as like in in the birth
area as far as the energies and she
works to set up to make sure
everything's peaceful and the music and
the drumming and the candles or whatever
the person wants so it's really
beautiful but I want it so she had to
she had to go but there was a there was
a segue there that I wanted to get into
with her so I'll segue from her
conversation to this conversation
because you talk about this a lot as
well birthing trauma because you talk
about getting over trauma childhood
wounds and fears and things that were
done to us and you know we've been the
victim of predators and people who had
different malicious intent you know we
have to get over that we have to learn
where to grow through it and be healed
from it so childhood trauma birth birth
trauma particularly and we talked about
we talked about entities in the other
realm and kind of give them their their
that their do many people are sometimes
called having these UFO alien abduction
encounters where they wake up in their
bed or they wake up on a ship put it
this way they're on a ship and they feel
like these weird men these entities
looking people are watching over them
and they call it an alien abduction
there's a big there's a lot of info out
there that this could be people reliving
their birth trauma and being snatched
from the birth canal and the doctors and
everyone looking at you and they have
scalpels in their hands and different
utensils and they're watching you and
the big eyes and all in your face and
stuff I don't know if there's any
connection there after you've studied
that at all but but talk a little bit
about that and kind of relate that back
to you know birth trauma and what it is
and how we're dealing with it well so
first week on
the alien theory it's also possible
because thought produces results and
thought creates our reality that our
birth trauma may have even caused
through our thinking actual experiences
of those entities through the fear added
to the experience so there may it may
not just be and like a memory
hallucinatory loosen it might not just
be a fake memory to say the word I was
gonna say but uh it may be more more of
a case of actual things being created
based on masses of birth trauma dogs now
birth trauma happens for just about
every bird our baby had the most gentle
bird and he still had birth trauma
because to pass through that birth and
now that's a traumatic experience you
like your head has to go you have the
bones in your head are changing and
smashing and to go from being supported
for nine months without having to do it
anything to having to learn how to
breathe on your own to learning how to
eat when you would beat you were eating
through your umbilical cord
prior and now it's time to learn how to
eat and digest so there's a lot to learn
so that can be a little traumatic so
having the most gentle experience for a
new life coming in is very very wise and
love
but I'll at the doctors and hospitals
they have systems of torturing babies of
stabbing them with needles injecting
them with poisons cutting off genitalia
parts of the genitalia
slapping babies manipulating their
bodies and in armful ways taking them
from the mother cutting the umbilical
cord too soon
not allowing bonding with the mother and
the father there's so many things that
produced traumas at the birth and when
the when the child is takes these
experiences without having verbal
thoughts
it forms pre verbal thoughts about
things in these pre verbal thoughts can
begin to run and sabotage our lives
thoughts like me being here causes pain
me being here causes women think I I
can't get enough the world is suffering
the universe is not a safe place to be
and and if you look at religion if you
look at the cliches of the world most of
them are these birth trauma thoughts and
death urge thoughts that have become
common beliefs and they're accepted as
wisdom they're accepted as this this is
the way it is this is wisdom but and I
mentioned Etheridge because the the only
way back to the womb is through death of
the physical body
and people who are long to give back to
the womb and so the death earth and the
birth trauma are linked together which
are the cycle of birth and death which
is the
yoga or Tantra systems are said to help
break that cycle
you think that's linked to some of the
suicides even what we're seeing in the
media now and some of the people that
we've all looked up to even musically
yeah in general just wanting to just
want in that release and wanting that
escape and maybe they've tried
pharmaceuticals for that escape and
release and it only takes you so far man
we're so without having you know these
different techniques and being being
really comfortable because we would look
at those people and think that they're
successful right but date but within we
don't know what they're dealing with
what they're going through the
contentment and stuff like that so you
think that's kind of probably linked as
well to the suicide rates and stuff at
least uh the over infatuation with it as
well until you finally do it it
definitely is I mean I I don't like to
speak with absolute certainty according
to the motto that that I use to view the
world it definitely is we're gonna go
ahead and go to the phone lines we do
have some callers here like I said the
phone lines are open
give us a call and let us know that
you're in queue we have a call coming in
from someone in Texas you're on the line
with loominatee Kongo you got a question
yeah I had a question about what would
grey Allen saw was talking about earlier
could these possibly be for me but
manifest you know we're going to like
sleep paralysis they something I
struggle with for very long time and
just want you guys across patience on
that yeah they they are they are
definitely thought forms because all all
things are coming from a thought and
these any entities that maybe be
terrorizing us that seem like it's
happening in an astral world or in in a
dream world or in
something like an abduction that we
can't provide any type of physical
evidence for there it's a good
possibility that these entities have
took form in the absolute world the
astral world is just the world of the
mind it is there's no difference between
mind and the astral world and these
beings have taken fear they sort of feed
on fear and if you saw it or are
familiar with it great movie yeah and
how it feeds on fear in the same way the
astral beings they can actually become
tangible but they're not it's not like
they're separate from us there's only
one one of us here and that's the
supreme source in many forms and so when
we when we're looking at any type of
entity that's that is still the
underlying but basis of it yeah I could
agree with that I know Aleister Crowley
had written a book before what he said
he did some sort of saying so villain
Egypt and he summoned something he drew
it we called it lamb but later on if you
read more he said that it was him it was
a reflection of himself it was almost
like a self-portrait
maybe it's the negative aspect or
something projected forward I'm not sure
it's just something that's puzzled me
for a very long time yeah and and I
think the way to make peace with those
things is to not
offer resistance or any fear does that
mean that you that you don't effectively
protect yourself no you can but the the
issue is when we seek protection that
means that we fear something and if you
if you're seeking protection than that
then that fear will will still attract
it to you so it's a very sensitive area
to - once we start experiencing actual
encounters with any type of entities its
it's not something that I have
experience will where I can tell you or
tell anyone any type of advice on how to
proceed but I do know that more fear is
never the solution and usually more more
love and compassion and understanding is
we don't want to be loving and
compassionate to our detriment those who
we speaking with caller what's your name
my name is Manny Emmanuel Emmanuel yeah
man thanks for calling brother yeah man
we shaded mouthpiece off all right
Shalom Shalom oh yeah in the manual just
to just put the little information that
means L is with us well God is with God
with us
so talking about that man so much to be
said when it comes to entities and and
the the astral realm and in those worlds
and so essentially anything that you can
fathom is real whether we have people
who are into many different fields
fields that we will never even know
exist in our lifetime because we haven't
given it the energy and the attention
that it needs to study it in the time
and the same for us we know things that
others will never know unless we try to
communicate it through song and through
music and through intrigue and
creativity and try to bring life or try
to bring those entities out into these
realms and some
some way that have impacted us and this
goes on many different levels thought
patterns emotional entities that come
through of beings of peace and love and
they transmute that and this it gets
really deep and I you know I definitely
go back to the the the different holy
books and ancient writings about how
they dealt with them and how they had
interactions with it and and there's I
don't want to really get into too much
of it but there's a lot of detail in one
precious book that's so awesome is uh
it's called the um the Clementine
homilies which is the recognitions of
Clemente who was a disciple of Peter and
Barnabas in from the scriptures and he
talks so much about dealing with these
entities and how they exist what gives
them power and a lot of times these
focuses on like the negative stuff we
don't hear too much information about
the good ones and how we should
entertain them and how we under other
Bible says entertain angels unaware
these angelic messengers and hosts but
so all of this stuff is real we won't
know it unless we study and give
ourselves to it or we have a sudden
interaction where we're approached by a
being or an alien if someone want to
call them and things like that
totally real so people who give
themselves over to it they find it in
the universe is in such a way where
you're talking about creativity of the
mind like whatever you're looking for
you're gonna find it
that's universal that it's totally real
even in the Bible like we was given I
gave two to complete opposite ends of
the spectrum on the prosperity end of
the people who read the Bible and they
say that you're supposed to be rich and
blessed beyond measure the wealth of the
wicked is stored up for the righteous so
all of Donald Trump's wealth belongs to
you like they believe this like this is
what they believe you know and then
there's other people who say you're not
supposed to own anything that all
righteous people should sign a vow of
poverty and not own anything and they in
both of these camps have scriptures to
back up their belief system and they
have followers and it's a huge thing so
whatever you
or even in the Bible you'll find it
there's like white supremacy in the
Bible I've been around those people
who preached white supremacy I've been
around the Hebrew Israelites who want to
enslave all white people and believe
that that's what the Christ is coming
back to do to enslave all white people
and as you have led into captivity so
shall you be led into captivity and
these are realms of thinking that you do
would not know exist unless you studied
it but to that person it's the real deal
so when we're communicating with
entities when somebody is studying
fairies and the and in the fairy Kingdom
in gnomes in training their eye on how
to see these beings and communicate with
them and how they operate how they
affect our lives people have
successfully done this and they're able
to go out and teach you how to see them
and how to feel them and see the wind
blow through the trees and to make the
leaves blow and to get signs from this
realm and to the average person that's
far out it's almost make-believe and so
some of the things we talked about or
even laughed at by just the lay people
who have no concern for that or no
infatuation with it and I want to I want
to kind of segue it just into talking
about if it's real to you and your
experience because I remember reading up
when I was a teenager I was into a lot
of the dark stuff some of the dark
witchcraft on how to put hexes and
curses on people I was really big into
the Satanic Bible and I would I would do
some of the the rituals as far as like
trying to summon Azazel and some of the
Fallen Angels that were techniques on
how to do that I would try to do it as a
teenager exploring those realms and it
was scary and there was a lot of stuff
that happened like I tapped into those
realms something touched back but there
was another book that scared me more
than the Satanic Bible and that was the
Necronomicon so we had a version of the
Necronomicon that most people can get
and we know that the book the the movie
Evil Dead is based off of the
Necronomicon it has some dealings with
that but to read some of the
rituals in there and the entities that
would come through through these rituals
for you to do we were scared to death to
try them like it talks about going into
the woods and making a blood covenant
and cutting yourself and then making
sure you're alone and these beings will
appear to you and like it was the real
deal but we were scared to death to try
it because it was some of it just seemed
malicious or whatever right but then the
more research you do you find out that
HP Lovecraft craft wrote novels and he
made a lot of this stuff up and it
wasn't even to be taken serious as
something to go out and do but it was
just like almost like this really
in-depth novel or comic or something it
was just that's what he did
but to me it scared me and to me reading
that stuff and taking it literal it
became real to me even though that this
person just brought it out of the ether
out of the astral realms and made it up
as he went which maybe could be said for
all the holy books or all the writings
that we have but we have to rebirth
everything out of those realms and so
just talking about how those things are
real to some people and then how they
influence us and how we have to go there
man people it's a it it has traces in
Murph's schizophrenia and I dealt with
that I dealt with that on a crazy level
which is what led me to the Christian
Church to try to get some freedom as a
teenager man so talk a little bit about
that man just about I know you said a
little bit about like those things that
we fear to not really feed into the fear
and not really try to entertain it but
there's something that you've helped me
with in the past a little bit I mean
maybe not even knowing but the notion of
demons and evil spirits and from the
Christian tradition about how people
want to get rid of them and we help
people get rid of them and overcome and
forgive and move on because a man they
could put you in a really
weird place of schizophrenia of paranoia
and do some really detrimental things
but you've taught me how to make peace
with those entities and to understand
that we have to learn from them and that
they're not the bad guys and when we
understand the fullness of the tradition
of the Bible it even talks about how God
allows that these evil entities
the Bible says evil angels it calls them
that to come and to buffett you and to
teach you and prepare you so talk a
little bit about that man I know that's
opening up a huge can of worms but
there's a lot of people who just want us
to snap the fingers and it'd be gone but
we have to learn we have to learn from
them in order to kind of graduate to the
next levels yeah where we we see them
and we experience if there's a lesson
there if there's something an initiation
to be had so those once again I am
another you and you are another me
that's for every entity any entity
throughout all creation it's another
version of me and I'm another version of
it hurt people hurt people hurt entities
hurt other entities and how do we stop
the cycle of any hurt only with
forgiveness understanding and compassion
so once again I have I'm not in the
realm of doing exorcisms it's not my
thing so I can't really tell people who
who have a lot of things going on in
that realm what's gonna work I have a
client who he speaks to me about some of
his experiences with beings in the
astral realm when he's sleeping in
they're not pleasant experiences for him
at all
and all of the things that I've said
suggestions for him to do or ideas of
ways think about it none of that has
actually seemed to bring him any more
peace or maybe that he has seemed to
have a little more peace but he the
occurrence hasn't gone away yet and so I
just say that because I don't have the
solution for those things I I have some
ideas it looks like one of them entities
is outside your window trying they're
trying to creep up right now breath
what's going on oh right reminds me of
the old days peeking out the window man
Ike is a lot of commotion going on I got
dogs out there who what we're watching
over stuff and they're like barking at
people walking in my in front of my
house so some Negro number cuz in this
man that's Negroes we'll go to Comic Con
imma stop we needed a small comic relief
the comic relief well man I'm not gonna
hold you up too much longer dude I
appreciate you coming on hanging out
with me we have we both have a lot of
things in the works I was even maybe
even thinking of working on the EP with
you man me and you may be putting out an
EP like a little fast song deal with
just me and you so if that intrigues
anybody in the chat room make sure you
let us know if you guys would like to
hear that man maybe we'll do something
like that in the future but we've
already got some beautiful songs under
our belt man and and together and and
separately as well I mean you're a huge
inspiration to a lot of people from the
music end and then on just a healing in
and I love how they coincide and they go
hand in hand so the the aspiration for
healing and bringing that into the world
is it's done through the music as well
and I remember man going on on the
psilocybin journey and I wanted to be a
healer like we had we spent some time
with it with a Reiki healer and then we
went and did a dose of mushrooms and it
was like I just had this overwhelming
urge to be a healer and want to do it
for a living and seeing how this person
was being their authentic self and
getting paid and doing what they love
for a living and I think that's envious
or is for me it really was but in a good
way right that cuz I have things I want
to do too so the information that comes
through is that you don't so all the
things that we want whether it's money
wealth and I think this is what you're
teaching as well that it's not outside
of us and so for me the prayer was God I
want to be a healer like what do I do
and in the respond that was you already
they are you're doing it through your
music you're doing it to prayer laying
on of hands listening to people giving
consultations and knowledge and love and
it was just like an aha moment that
don't see any of this outside of
yourself but see it as it's already
there I've already given you everything
the kingdom of heaven is within you
don't need nothing on the outside
learn to go within and to bring it out
and to manifest it and that's what our
music is about illuminated Congo John
hooks is music like I said guys do a
private session with the student man
scheduled us a session or via Skype and
you'll have hands-on practical
experience where you learn from yourself
in the privacy of your bedroom like
we've done we've done many webinars what
we've done over the years and in private
sessions and it's been it's been awesome
we got I'll record it we got a lot of it
on tape and some of its online - we got
some of that stuff we put together in a
documentary and at the very end we do a
session with you after a float tank
experience and it was a really really
life-changing and we caught all that on
on tape so kind of give you a website
man and just what you're working on just
kind of plug your stuff right here at
the end
where's Illuminati : go calm that's
Illuminati like thing that people fear
oh like the place in Africa that people
don't really know about but that's the
other Illuminati Congo that
I have a new album coming now any day
now it's called 7r with my bridge and
Ross arcane and produced by da we ill
son and my G the graduate who's my main
producers for Illuminati Congo so that's
what that says out anyone I don't even
no one is but it's any day any moment
but if you hear and if you're hearing
this you can actually hit me up and be
like yo send me a CV before they even
out officially and I will after you send
me that cash that's awesome man brother
you grow in so much one final question
before we go I got a no because you're
growing so much and you're doing a lot
of work behind the scenes working on
Instagram and creating memes what is the
power of a meme and the power of
communication because you're taking
these really deep esoteric vast concepts
and trying to transmute them in a meme
and work and there's a lot of people
responding with to talk a little bit
about that for we go we're living in the
mean formation age now the Information
Age is done this is the mean formation
AIDS and what does there mean it means
that people attention spans are very
short they don't they don't even want to
watch the hour-long documentary anymore
yeah it's like all they want is to be
able to read something that's gonna help
them either laugh help them get informed
about something help them look at things
differently or whatever or help or maybe
just reinforce they stoop the ways of
thinking about [Â __Â ] that they've already
been doing in the past my my stuff is
mainly to make people laugh to give
people a little information some they
might not know or
to think about things in a in a new way
I like to some days I'll be up at just
wake up in there next thing you know I'm
making a mean and this is like why am I
doing this I don't even know but then I
realize I like tune into mass
consciousness and be like way to say I'm
sort of changing the way that masses of
people are thinking about things they're
not believing that physical death is
inevitable
a few people aren't believing it maybe
maybe a couple of the words I'm saying
is helping people question victim
mentality question that that there's
something out there that rules over them
and not from in here and so that's why I
like doing it I didn't know it was gonna
go go as far as it's been going on
Instagram but I also have aspirations of
going much farther I ought to be like
the hood Deepak Chopra you know I'm
saying I I'ma be that dude eventually I
already am in in a sense yeah and I just
think it all it's time to expand more in
the memes help that means to go viral so
quickly and you can spread some good
information really making people laugh
that's my favorite that's my favorite
type of mean like the one the deep ones
is cool the ones we info is cool if
there's valuable info but laughter like
heartedness that's according to the
comedic philosophy that's how you answer
is the kingdom and that's the way you
stay there and eternal life is with a
light heart my ways your your heart and
if it weighs heavier than a feather then
you gotta learn about light heartedness
again
yeah I just I just dropped that in my
new song that's available and paid
trying you guys go check that out talked
a little bit about that but yeah man I
think that it's it's so important
because like some people take themselves
too seriously
we know religious people and of any sect
I mean there's the zealots who totally
they take themselves and their their way
of thinking to be the only way of
thinking and they take themselves too
seriously and sometimes we got to make
fun of it sometimes we got to poke fun
of it and even the stuff that we don't
even the stuff that we believe we got to
kind of make fun of it and mock it a
little bit that's also important one to
make fun of exactly I'm making front of
roster and look roster deserve to be
made fun of because they'd be on some
really weird [Â __Â ] thanks give thanks now
let me give thanks thanks how about we
all give thanks together but don't tell
me after I do a favor for you yeah if
Thanks but that's what I'm saying I made
fun of my own yeah it's funny and I
think it think it helps other people to
take their guards down a little bit at
first at first they're appalled and
we're seeing that from the comment
sections of some of your posts that are
being more funny and more laid-back I
appreciate it I share a lot of it and
it's a lot of wisdom in it and uh and it
allows people not to take you too
seriously I had to get over myself of
being a spiritual guru and someone that
people looked up to for spiritual
information and then when I was funny
which is a huge part of my personality
my family my friends I love to see them
smile I will make myself look stupid and
do weird dances in my living room for my
family just to have them laugh and bring
a smile to their face and to see the
power and the healing behind that but to
like the audience and stuff and to that
I'm a regular person and I'm not just
meditating all day and I do I have
hobbies and stuff that I love to do you
play pokemon go over there
that's so funny but uh but I enjoy it
man you know I'm saying I I'm a big
gamer man you know I'm saying like if
people watching her video I'm just I
mean this my game room in like weig
ain't me and my wife and my daughter
were avid gamers we love it we love that
realm and in the lore and the truth a
lot of truth in in in those lures as
well are we talking about shamanism if
you're looking at those video games and
you're trying to learn about shamanism
like a lot of those terms are legit like
they're legit terms that are in all of
these video games and stuff World of
Warcraft
League of Legends like they have
abilities and stuff but if you look up
the terms like it's legit if we're
talking about ghosts and in alchemy and
potions and stuff dude all of that stuff
is in the video game so there's there's
there's so much there that kind of it's
either gonna help prime you for knowing
how to utilize those things in your life
or it's gonna dead in you to those
things where you're like oh man this
dude managed this fantasy world yeah ah
so it depends on the type of person as
long as you are seeing like yeah this
that's related to this that's related to
this you know you plan your game as as
almost an extension of your spiritual
practice that's how I watch my Netflix
and watch my athletes as an extension of
my spiritual practice it's weird for me
because sometimes it turns off and on or
there's other shows that source energies
like okay pay attention to this and
there it's been weird times of I'm
watching a totally different movie than
everybody else like every almost like
when you read the Bible or you read the
I'm saying the bhagavad-gita or the
alchemists for example all of these
people represent different emanations
within your own self and so to be
watching a movie and that same energy
that's in those holy books are
communicating with you through the movie
and you and I see a character I remember
watching watching a show a long time ago
Joe josie and the pussycats or something
that's about a girl band and it was just
on TV I was at my mother-in-law's house
it was just on TV watching it and I'm
communicating with an outside source
okay that represents you and that
represents your music career and until
you let it go I have to refine some
things in you and watch what happens to
her this is gonna happen to you
I'll see that person that represents
this and I'm like what the [Â __Â ] is
happening and this is taking everything
to another level in it and I've seen
that happen in so many times with uh
with with television man and the media
in Hollywood and there's so much
everything is spiritual man you don't
change nothing that we do in the in the
film what Hollywood is magical in Halle
the word Halle
that's a magical word right and if you
understand how that want how was used as
a wine that is we could get into oh yeah
it guy MTV they got they little
Hollywood thing going on right now were
they talking about Hollywood esoteric
breakdowns but they ain't going into the
word Hollywood you see that's that they
need John [Â __Â ] chime in from beyond guy
MTV I am don't forget us man you got to
come back and do a follow-up interview
man as long as they let me say [Â __Â ] you
gotta find another word you can't use
that word yeah you could use that
that'll work that's what that's what the
white people say hello man hey bro
thanks for coming on hanging out with me
brother
a blessing every time and in the chat
rooms blowing up man people are just
showing that gratitude for you and your
music as well so blessings my friend
we'll do it again soon Thank You G all
right Shalom Shalom so long our ladies
and gentlemen Illuminati Congo my good
friend so excited into light and
delighted to build with him and to do
what we do like I said we got some new
music coming out together very soon it
will be released to the general public
but if you want to get it early and
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stuff with that I must say peace and
Shalom many blessings to you guys I love
each and every one of y'all Shalom