Halloween Ritual | How To Talk With Spirits | June Ahern
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June a Hearn June June welcome to the
podcast how are you my friend thank you
for having me on a good time to talk
about there's a lot of stuff going on
when we were mentioning this we're you
know coming up on Halloween you know and
and in this whole season of just October
the weather is changing a lot of mention
of death and monsters and ghouls and
goblins and spirits and things like that
you know should we entertain this stuff
should we you know shelter our kids and
keep them away although all of these
questions you know that we all have
genuinely like should we open them up to
this what is it about should we
participate in Halloween you know we
come from a lot of religious circles
where they don't deal with Halloween at
all what is the origins come from these
type of things I want to get into and
really bridge the gap between you know
Christianity in a sense and what maybe
some people would call secular or pagan
tree or something like that right it's
in it's into things that are that
they're not familiar with the pastor
really doesn't you know go into this
stuff and we've been taught to kind of
stay away from everything and just be
over here in our corner versus partaking
in the culture partaking in the
festivities in different ways to do that
so I want
get into some of that stuff with you if
you want to start offer to be awesome
just to kind of go ahead and give a
little bit of background about who you
are what you bring to the table we can
start there okay I grew up in a strict
Catholic household certainly respect
everything I received my education and
my understanding of spirituality and
religion from my background then when I
was around the age of 19 I actually was
19 I had a serious car accident and on
the way to the hospital I expired for a
short time and I went what I believe was
to the other side I went to heaven if
you will I crossed over and then they
brought me back and it began a whole
different outlook about life and the
world where you're able to know and see
things that you don't have information
about and also then to interact with
those that have passed on and so I
follow through out of my fear of what
was happening I had to find answers why
am i happiness why am I having these
experiences why do I know these things
why is this person a period to me and it
wasn't Pleasant so I cannot say well all
this stuff happened and it was great it
was not pleasant it was frightening
certainly was not really all what my
parents wanted for me as a Catholic to
talk about knowing things about people
and I began to study the tarot cards
which was not acceptable either so I had
to really look at in time in life you
know what is superstition I'm glad you
brought that up what is the truth find
the truth what is the season all about
why do people celebrate it what is
paganism and why are people turn into
that you know and people do it out of
curiosity it's like everybody wants to
be part of something right something
different to something I'll turn into
vino correct correct
I like that something alternative they
may not experience in their own
traditional Christian religion and so
that's what people did certainly from
the 60s I know how people started going
you know it's a word learning about
spirituality in different ways and
Buddhism was one of the ways that people
began to study so I look at when you
said pagans you know paganism and this
is a time of history people that were
pagan actually meant people of the earth
making these people at the stone people
of the earth people were so dependent on
the seasons you said yeah it's starting
to get colder it's getting darker at one
time that meant so much to people they
could not survive if they did not pay
attention to the weather yeah
that was that's where it really came
from was their superstitions absolutely
were there many gods absolutely but if
you look at gods and you look at saints
it's the transferring of this power to
an actual being because Saints were
people that lived and were canonized you
know people so it's the superstition
that begins to it's the fear
superstition this fear yeah sure
and I do question everything if someone
comes to me and says oh I had these
things my house bowls or whatever I'm
like uh-huh okay and then I question I
may even go to what they're talking
about and I pick it up for myself and I
hope to put some sort of reason and
logic into it you've done some work on a
paranormal TV show as well right the
haunted house the haunted Bay stations I
don't know if I'm always as popular as
some because I don't do all this
beautiful spooky stuff yeah I look at it
I say let's go in here don't tell me
anything let's see what's here and can
you back it up that's what I asked the
producer who does a lot of research yeah
to find answers to what I have picked up
I have gone in and found
particular what you call ghosts why are
they still there why don't they move on
and I've learned a lot you know what
I've learned a lot from spirit
that are not moving on I'm like I didn't
know this before and that's that could
hate me that could be hard cuz I've been
I've been thinking about death a lot
lately and I think it's been because of
some of the things that that I've I've
been entertaining like I told you before
we went live I just watched the the
haunting of Hill House great Netflix
series great you definitely it
definitely brings you to terms with with
death and leaving so I've been I've been
in this weird place I know what the
Bible says about dying I know what it
talks about the afterlife and I don't
think my fear of dying because I still
have this little fear there like I'm not
I'm not afraid of about what comes and
what happens when I get there
my fear is like you're talking about
moving on like this this life is pretty
fun like it provides us with some really
cool experiences I mean animals dog like
just the small things man that are so
beautiful in just that notion that
you're gonna be sucked out of this
existence and not be here and have to
move on to another one even if it is
beautiful even if it is heavenly and
angelic and so beautiful like if it's
like this is a really cool place
I think people take that for granted so
I've been in this weird place about
dying not that the fear of of the
afterlife
but but the fear of not being able to do
the little small things here on the
earth so does that come into play when
we're talking about the spirits not
transitioning and being stuck here and
things like that something that keeps
them connected to this realm thank you
so much this is a beautiful place in the
smallest of ways sitting in a bus bench
and watching people and kids come and
you just beautifully small things yeah
animals are children or for me my
grandchildren yeah this time of year
really is the celebration of those that
have gone on before us I will get to
what you said those that have got it but
it's a celebration of what you just said
that's the merry part of Halloween enjoy
the life enjoy the children in the
laughter how excited
yeah about life and on the other side
leaving planet Earth and the spirits
that don't want to that's what you they
there was one spirit I met it up we
would call it an ally but it's like a
throw between streets it's a small
street and he and I asked him don't you
want to move on I was so serious I was
gonna save the soul and he said why
should I have a great time I talk to
people like you and I whoa wait a minute
isn't everybody's supposed to go to
heaven or supposed to go and then I
began to understand about dimensions
about different people in different
space of time and that if you think
about our life we actually live in
different dimensions as children
teenagers young adults and what we
thought about his children begins to
change so do they all want some are
suffering some are repeating do you have
any friends that go on and on about age
of their life when everything crashed
for them yeah like Oh God will you just
be quiet about this people don't stop at
all they're like they make everything
about them and about what was me every
conversation every sentence has to deal
with that it's kind of weird yeah that's
the spirit it's that they have not
healed
you know perhaps they were I have worked
with the police on some cases of
unfortunately murdering it's not
pleasant I don't anymore
but that's the kind of spirits will
often hang out here they want their
justice they want to stop really you
know and I do believe in prayer I'm a
very strong prayer I pray more than once
twice three times every day so can we
pray for them yes why did they stick
here well I learned some of them like
earth like you just said it why would
they want to move on yeah but thank you
physically participate in it like you
pick up your child and you hug the child
you physically participate uh-huh and
only do it from mine mentally so with
ghosts and stuff like that like what is
it like because we've seen like a lot of
these ghosts in the ghost reports and
stuff most of the time it's
then it almost seems like a tragic loop
that these spirits or this even if it is
a spirit maybe the energy the vibration
is stuck there and it just repeats over
and over maybe if someone was you know
someone committed suicide off of a
bridge or off of a house a building you
there's like a loop that's pressed into
time where you people can see that you
see the ghost that appears the way that
they died and and people are able to see
that there's ghosts towards that almost
hey let me show you this what happens in
ghosts appear to people are these
impressions what is that is that the
physical I don't know if we call this
physical but is that the spirit of that
person that's stuck in the loop are they
trying to like you said maybe show
people something that they want justice
hey I was brutally murdered
I died suddenly this is how I died
please help me like what's going on
there when we when people are able to
see those type of loops and impressions
with spirits well it certainly is a
vibration it is an energy everything is
vibrating when you sit out nature is
where you really understand what
vibration is all of a sudden you feel
the plants the flowers the trees the
birds the sky and so everything is on a
vibrational level and they are repeating
the story over and over again and yes
are they looking for help well they can
get help there's many that can get help
people pray for them and I say to
someone you know the best thing to do
with that person that hung himself in
the room and now you want to make it you
know your study but you can't go in
there I do believe in prayer as I said
let's see if we can move them out
sometimes you go in with a person like
me who converses and says listen I know
you're stuck you really can't be here
you have to stop this energy and move
your energy out of here and move it to
someplace else unfortunately it just
doesn't always happen it certainly in
places where great wars have taken place
and many people died on a field when you
go by that place you just feel it you're
now aware and you know you either kind
of accept it or you
go there and not everybody has that same
sensitivity you know they certainly
don't feel it like some of us yeah the
Bible talks about it actually being a
spiritual gift that cause it the
discernment of spirits you're able to
discern when their spirits or energies
around yes what's the difference between
people who really can't do that in pray
for spirits and people that prey upon
the living not in this area that that's
one of the reasons that I go out and I
talk to people and I say I tell people
you don't really need a person like me
if I could give you knowledge and
educate you how to live with it or do
something about it but don't rely on
other people to tell you too much
information about spirits you know what
can we do for them do we all move on to
heaven well I certainly know that there
was heaven purgatory and hell yeah well
some of us get to go if we live a decent
life and we're compassionate toward
others and we're not going to judge
others and I think that's important as
some of us don't quite make it so what
does that mean I look at it as here on
earth so our spirit we're spirits what a
spiritualism mean it means that to be in
touch with the who we truly are the
spirit of who we really are you know and
certainly if you have a difficult
childhood people that have it and then
they heal they return to their normal
person of who they are the childhood or
you know the pureness of who you are so
we if you look at yourself as a spirit
and you could come back and after you
left the physical body would you want to
hang around this earth no no that's what
you want to say and you would want to be
with your loved ones I know that you
have loved ones a family you would want
to come and say hello at times or I love
you or comfort them well that's the
beauty of being able to make that
communication but you can't linger here
you don't belong on the earth physical
earth after you leave body so what's
what's the deal with with Halloween All
Saints Day you
the Catholic Church you said it was a
holiday for you guys whenever you were
younger so what so what's the deal with
that if somebody doesn't know anything
about All Saints Day or honoring the
Saints and things like that remembering
them we're praying for them what
actually is All Saints Day ojala we avis
Halloween that's All Hallows Eve witches
meets all holy like Christmas Eve yeah
it's a holy time before the actual
celebration so you have a certain ritual
and relating back to how important it
was for people to understand whether
they didn't go down to their local
supermarket and buy food if you didn't
grow it and you didn't store it or you
couldn't barter for it you ended up
having to beg for it
so you think about begging as
trick-or-treating I'm gonna go and ask
you do you have something so I can live
the winter out or you know you relied on
charity or what happened is you you
start you start after children and
you're old people it's really a time of
honoring those during difficult times
you are willing to share what you have
so you can get through the winter or the
starving time and that's what it's about
it's like saying wow it's getting cold
it's getting dark do you have some
apples and put in storage that you can
share my children over here are really
hungry my my grandfather's dying and you
know even now elderly people die more in
winter than any other time of year or
sick sick and elderly so what did they
equate it to they equated to oh my god
here she comes here comes death the
banshees they're coming so in that way
they were trying to relate who will die
and who will live and they created this
whole ritual around but we better honor
our ancestors and ask them to help us
we're going to pray to them so pagans
you know did pray they prayed a lot and
they honored now they may not have done
it the way that we would do it as
Christians you know they kind of came
out of that and so
what it's about All Saints Day is again
honoring those who are holy you know and
then you have all souls day that
followed all saints day in in
catholicism that's that was the three
days Hallows a pulse saints and then all
souls so where does it come in was I
praying praying to Saints because I know
like that it comes from Samhain or
whatever the case says right so you pray
in for them to watch over you protection
that type of deal that's what we pray
for it st. Christopher you're going on a
trip st. Francis for animals and peace
and Saint Anthony to find things so you
do you'll find the saint that you will
pray to and so what the pagans did is
they took their gods and goddesses and
Catholicism came along you had Saints
mm-hmm mixing in the blending and so
mixing in the blending of our ancestors
who lived it a certain way because of
conditions yeah all right and then when
Christianity came stronger how do you
blend the two so people feel natural it
feels like a natural flow mm-hmm and so
you pick a saint or you play for saints
and you you honor them you go to we went
to Mass you know we would go to Mass and
we would do our ritual and that's what
it's that's how the to blend it together
yeah everything's pretty much a blend
now it's so funny cause like even the
people who think that um like they have
a like a nut like an original thing with
Christianity or like Christmas or Easter
or in any type of holiday like it's
borrowed like like everything's borrowed
there's nothing new Under the Sun it all
came from pagan tree I mean pagans were
here before Christians pagans were here
before the Hebrews and so everything is
kind of borrowed down and so you know
history kind of you know falls in the
lap of the person who won the battles
are the one who lived to tell about it
and they get to kind of change things up
and blend things together so that's kind
of what we have with was Christianity
and all of these different you know holy
days or holidays or what
you so as far as like dressing up and
stuff like that is I don't know if it's
just this sensationalizing of it but
like you have the the spirits who would
go back to the house and supposedly
trick a tree so you have a a monster or
a little creature or whatever a skeleton
who have somebody dressing up you know
kind of playing that role over and over
through through that just kind of like
the veneration of it going to the house
knocking on door trick or treat and if
you come to the door with candy or an
apple or a tree then they take the candy
and they go to the next house
but if you didn't give them a tree if
you didn't give them candy then they
play the trick on you trick-or-treat if
you don't give me a treat and I'll play
a trick and then you toilet paper of the
house or throw eggs at the house or
something like that right so was that
was that something that that happen
though is that like a literal thing that
happened do you think because as far as
like spirit spirits going back and if
you didn't honor the spirits then they
play tricks on you or haunted that house
or whatever this is it here's the ritual
the ritual is go inside to your house
get safe don't go out because the
spirits all the spirits on on All
Hallows Eve Halloween night the veil has
dropped between the two worlds they get
to walk this doesn't mean all the happy
little loving little relative this means
all spirits your outside and not a very
nice spirit sees you then they possibly
will trick you
they'll trick you into saying oh why
don't you come with me I love you let's
go over here to the trees and I'll take
you down into the underworld of course
it'll tell you that because they're
tricking you and so why do you wear it
costumes you wear costume so you can
hide from them they can't really see you
there's also a belief we used to say
what's your name Baldy Bayne ask me
again I'll tell you the same you don't
give your name to strangers they're
going to use it in some sort of form and
we know that now form identity fraud
right so dressing up had to do with not
making yourself vulnerable to this to
the not very nice to the
spirits so you were a mask and they
couldn't recognize you like let's go
let's go get Derek this year and take
him off the planet Earth
well we can't find it because we don't
know of all these people dressed stop
who he is like coming to get you so um
those evil spirits yeah so talk talking
about spirits like is this something
that uh that anyone should do is there
dangers when it comes to consulting with
spirits talking to mediums I've seen a
lot of weird stuff with like Sylvia
Browne over the years some things that
she has spoken out over people and they
believed it and it's like almost like
speaking curses over people and weird
stuff like that and I could see how
people you know can follow up under the
power of persuasion for one but um is
there is there danger with trying to
communicate with spirits I mean even a
lot of people who are deep into the
occult will tell you to stay away from
Ouija boards trying to communicate with
spirits and things like that just any
spirit that's around I had some bad
blood back in the day for trying to open
up to any spirit that was around ended
up getting possessed actually so there's
also some type of caution that's there
but just because there's caution just
because there's you have to be careful
right that that shouldn't say not to get
into it or if it's calling you or you're
into it right so should we approach it
with with caution and be careful with it
absolutely and I say this all the time I
might tell but I I do not like the Ouija
board I know my sister I have a very bad
experience with it I actually took it
put it outside the house I didn't want
it you know at night I just closed the
door and said I don't even want that in
my house absolutely and what I say is I
do a blessing before I do any kind of my
work my spiritual work whether it is a
reading privately or going on an
investigation I do a blessing to myself
I say prayers so that I surround myself
with protection and I see people go and
what
it's just like you said dirt you open up
and you can get an attachment I actually
got an attachment for the first time
after it's a long story but I and I
couldn't believe it I would get one
that's alright that's the first trick I
tell people to educate themself and
again that's why I wrote you know the
few books that are the two books and I
addressed how to talk with spirits and
also if you go for a reading this is the
kind of thing you do to protect yourself
do not just hang on somebody oh you did
this or that really does it have reason
in your life does that settle ah gee
cool to you that's what I tell people
you do not want to open up to any kind
of spirit when I saw somebody say go
ahead be with me touch me any way you
want I went no don't say that because
yes you are attracting all spirits into
your whole body mm-hmm
so absolutely or you're right people
should not open up if you feel you have
a spirit and you want to talk there are
some very decent mediums mostly all
mediums that I have ever met are good
people you may ask them for
clarification you may ask them do you
pick something up - or what do you pick
up and then ask yourself does this sound
reasonable to you can you identify with
it not necessarily in the moment because
most people need time to think about it
but do not plunk a bunch of money down
on somebody that you have not
investigated to find out what is their
tract whose record I won't talk badly
about other mediums and psychics openly
but yeah I have seen some things on
television stuff I just do not like it
all with how they present the paranormal
spirit world we had we had a guest on
here and she brought up this this idea
she said that she said she was in a
relationship with a and I guess in her
worldview it would be like an an alien
or an ET that communicated with her in
the dream realm and they were like
lovers and in a relationship is that a
red flag if someone wanting to our
spirit wants to be in a relationship
with with someone I mean not not you
know the ghost of your husband or wife
that passed but someone who is looking
for love in all the wrong places maybe
have you heard of that at all people I
am very cautious of that because really
in a physical like way other than a
loved one as you say someone that was
important should not be trying to
interact physically with you that is an
attachment that's opening up your actual
physical body now for those that
actually like speaking tongues of those
people that communicate voice from other
entities if they've done the right
cautious and they know what they're
doing
then there's a little difference but I
have heard of that and I don't see any
good in it and I don't know this person
you're speaking with so I can't really
say it would certainly raise red flags
in my mind I do know more I would
probably ask a lot of questions of her
yeah yeah it ended it for me and a lot
of the viewers as well it was off all
fun and games until we heard about that
I mean that sounds like a way you can
definitely will probably get possessed
would be you know join in union with the
spirit that that type away and you know
so let me ask you so we talk about
ghosts you know I don't know if demons
are kind of in that cup as well at times
but the the ghosts and demons whether
they physically exist or whether they
exist in your own mind only to you
whether they're even demons or demons
for that matter
it exists to kind of help you cope help
you get along in that that show well I'm
not gonna give away too many spoilers I
just encourage people to go watch the
haunting of Hill House
I want to talk about it but there's a
lot of great concepts in that show but
um talking about the the demons or
spirits that exist in your mind right
and they're there for you or to help you
get through to get over something that
person's voice is always there telling
you don't do this do that or whatever
that may not physically exist or may not
literally be the ghost of that person
but the essence is still there for the
individual well you know it reminds me
when you were speaking we learned that
there were I there was a good a jewel on
this side and I'm not evil angel of that
side right and so polarity between being
human I often look as spirits work
through physical people so if you're
calling your angel and you don't know if
your angel is helping you and someone
shows up so they show up and they say I
hope you're feeling better or here let
me give you something to help you well
that's your angel working through it so
on the on the opposite end then demons
work through a living people and why do
demons come evil I often call them
vampire entities you know they're here
to drain you yeah and you can learn a
lesson if they certainly if you come in
contact with a vampire entity you're
asking if it's in your mind or if it's
in your body if it's in your mind that
strong you will create it in your body
exactly expecting illnesses someone
keeps saying well I don't feel good I
don't feel good I don't feel good it
pretty soon they're in bed mm-hmm which
is it was an I mentally thought I was
not really well so they they can't
actually move into your body I'm very
cautious about that it really can happen
mentally it begins there where do I see
my spirits I see him mentally first I
don't want them to show up when they
show up even I go so I'm very cautious
about the vampire entities and I gave an
example before a friend that goes on and
on and on and ranging you're on the
phone you think I gotta get off the
soria same thing those kind of
Institute's
they drain you
of your energy and they drain you
emotionally you cannot cope emotionally
after a while yeah yeah definitely um
well it kind of it's it's kind of its
kind of similar to like a persona or
Topa which is a I don't know if you've
heard the heart of that term at all but
it's kind of new to me but these are
people who kind of create these entities
within their own psyche within their own
mind and they give life to it and they
talk to it and they nurse it and
communicate with it and eventually it
starts communicating back and there's
this entity that's now formed then you
create it with your own thought matter
you know what I'm saying so they kind of
sound something similar to that really
make you appear very mentally unstable
you do actions your emotions become
unreasonable and people around you say
gee what happened to you know Mary over
there all of a sudden she's just this
different person yeah you know that
brings me to something and this is not
our topic but I'll just mention it
that's what I don't like about drugs I'm
not into it I am a child of the sixties
so I do get it it's not like I don't get
them but drugs will open you up to not
very good things they will they will
open up and I'm talking about drugs like
speed or heroin or cocaine
you know they open up the psyche mm-hmm
the psyche doesn't have the ability to
shut down what is actual reasonable
logical ways of living on planet Earth
and you kind of be an artist artists
have to go to that other realm they
can't always live in really good logic
they have to how could you create music
how can you create anything if you do
not go so be very cautious people with
someone that you know that's on drugs
and begins to tell you a lot because
they are seeing it by the way yes man
I've got some crazy stories about that
and so weird too though just kind of
relating back is like when we're talking
about spirits I'm
alcohol you have wine in spirits and I
remember passing by an alcohol store
here a liquor store named Bacchus
Bacchus is the name of a pagan god of
drunkenness and revelry right and so
does like the name of the store was
called Bacchus wines or whatever wines
and spirits and so there's something
there about getting so intoxicated so
out of your mind to where you start
being able to be influenced by spirits
and so I know there's talks about these
spirits that hang at the top of doorways
and they like to hang out at bars so
that people who are drunk are severely
under the influence can't they don't
really have control of all of their
faculties their you know mind is a
little unstable they're just open to
whatever they don't really guard their
tongue those type of things and they say
these spirits hang out at the top of the
doorways and they hang out and they fall
upon the backs of people and they go
down into there that their spirit and so
you have these type of entities attached
to you hanging out at bars and stuff
like that so yes there's there's
definitely a connection there and I have
a um I've had people who are even
friends or whatever but I'm careful man
if somebody is uh hooked on hard drugs
and I don't I'm real mindful about who I
allowed to speak into my life and I've
had some weird accusations from people
who were like on heavy heroin and and
smoking crack and stuff like that but
then again they try to be spiritual they
try to tap into those realms and stuff
but they're on these hard drugs and
they're addicted it's that the the the
different delusions and things that come
with that it leaves the person mentally
unstable and when we're talking about
demonic possession or or demonic
influence I found and I truly believe
that they want to get you to a state
where you don't have control of your
thoughts where they're thinking for you
and you you know become a you know
middlee unstable you become insane and
insane and I've seen it a lot I've I had
had to deal with it and
it's about the mind keep it in the mind
sharp keeping the mine on on guard
keeping yourself the spirit of who you
are mm-hmm you said right when you set
down through the back of your neck well
that's you know your spine is your
nervous system right over the spine so
they enter right there between the the
brainstem there's a little space of them
in your spine and they enter through
there they can enter over here and your
shoulders I mean I'm always surprised
over the years of my work 45 years when
I actually see these kind of attachments
and I say whoa yeah or when I see
somebody speaking they're out of their
mind on crack but they're speaking in
tongues and they're speaking some stuff
and some of it is at this fine you know
they're possessed Pizza you gotta gotta
be careful even in the church circles
man there was a Christian ministry down
here in the South out of Panama City saw
Christian International and so there was
a kind of a training facility place for
the Christian prophets and so to teach
people how to prophesy teach people how
to discern spirits and and to speak into
people's life and be able to pray for
someone and be able to feel what that
person was going through and stuff and
so they would open it up and they would
do personal ministry where people would
drive to go there for the weekend to
receive ministry from their prophets but
I knew a guy who was on crack and he was
smoking crack and he would go there and
he would minister to people why he was
on crack and I was like man and it's
about being able to discern those people
around you like that's that's not good
to be able to do that you know and so
the discerning is a bit is a big thing
man I think we all have to get into and
like I remember the guy who led me to
the Lord back in the day he um he's he's
he's like a very spiritual guy maybe too
spiritual you know what I'm saying and
so he had someone come to the church and
it was a friend of his and it's like man
you guys are prophesying you're healing
people laying hands on people and all of
these wonderful miracles that are taking
place within your church but you guys
can't discern that you're just letting
your children run around the church and
there's a known child molesters
in the congregation and your kids are
sitting in their lap and it's like you
guys are so spiritual and able to do
miracles but you can't discern this
stuff going on so it really comes down
to be able to discern who in what you
know the Bible says to know them that
labor amongst you and know what they're
doing and know what they're going
through and not just let anybody speak
into your life there's a lot of people
who are charlatans there's a lot of
people who are charismatic they're just
really well-spoken and they're in the
churches they're in the psychic medium
they're everywhere it's not just they're
here this it you know it has no you know
respecter of persons this is in in every
field it's in every religion sin every
spiritual Creed and you have those
people who are master manipulators and
you have to be careful and you have spin
and a lot of times they are controlled
by spirits as well
yes yeah they get into their ego I can
heal people working in the field of what
I do I have to daily check and make sure
that am I really coming for the better
of a person not better for me not how I
think they should be but as it is the
person living more joyfully peacefully I
love Jesus I'm a big fan of Jesus I
think that if we really just kept it
simple and followed Jesus path of love
and sharing and peace then we would not
have so much confusion of what is right
of what is wrong because it's pretty
much set down there and for people to
lay hands on lay hands on me that you
are transferring a healing energy of
whomever whether it be Jesus God the
Virgin Mary but you're transferring that
energy to the person so if I am in under
the influence of drugs or I live a life
where I've lied and I live a life where
I'm cheating I am transferring my energy
to you yeah now you may wish a healing
so you fall back and say all I've been
healed but have you been healed from
judging and lying
have you been healed from from that
because that's where it begins when we
look out there
fear the world is a bad place that is
some of the problems that I do have with
certain religions is that they look into
the world with a lot of fear yeah I can
say let me bring the light to the world
let me be joyful and peaceful as best I
can in this world you know and be aware
as you say you know when your daughter
or your child goes out you don't say to
your children be afraid of everything
you say be be aware you know is that man
or woman standing too close to you and
keeps moving move away so I mean I'm
really look at fear why do we have to
live on fear why can't we not enlighten
ourself in a healing way so yeah there's
a lot of people preying on people using
the word religion yeah yeah it's insane
um talking about possession have you
have you ever actually had to deal with
any any exorcisms or have you dealt with
people who were possessed yes yes I
always say if I'm scared
oh boy because I I don't get scared it a
lot of things what scares me is more of
human people in there and their
attitudes so I was down in Jamaica I was
brought to Jamaica paid to come down you
know Commission's to come down to do
some classes and do some readings by
wonderful Jamaican people what an
experience and one of a man that came to
me he was a doctor and he had gone back
and forth to New York with his wife to
find a cure for her and she had cancer
and they cure it but she was they told
me she was being attacked by demons and
I'm thinking you know right you know
superstitious so I agreed to go to their
house in Jamaica now this is July and
Jamaica do you know how hot it is hot as
it is in Alabama down to their house
with a kite cocky attitude and because I
had never dealt with that kind of
possession I walked into that house and
I felt like I was walking into a
refrigerator
it turned cold I went I said I have to
go to this back room they had a room off
the kitchen it was like a storage area I
opened the door I felt I walked into a
meat locker a freezer and I just felt
such horrible energy around me
and I actually started to fade I'm not a
dramatic person so for me having to feel
like I'm fainting was a big deal and
they had to help me out and they took me
to the wife and I literally experienced
being slapped like a wet towel my
brother used to hit us with the wet
towel on to being pinched and I wish I
had taken pictures after I didn't think
about it I actually ended up with
bruises on me I could hear that his
voices exceed to the whole walls and the
woman was in bed with mountains of
blankets on her and I went to her and I
tried to comfort her and I said I will
do all I can I said but you know what I
don't have that kind of experience or
education you you need to you need to
look at leaving the spot I felt it was
the area where they were I asked you
know anything about the spot and they
didn't but I know there was a stream
nearby and I have often found that
entities can move with water like an
electrical current and so I left that
was my real first I've been haunted
buzzed I say I work with the police with
murder victims it's not pleasant it's
not for me I really removed myself
limits mm-hmm it could be intense and
some of the big-name Exorcist over the
years I've said that you know the the
ministry or the life expectancy of an
exorcist isn't that long four years tops
someone who really does a poor
profession because the mental wear and
tear that it takes for someone who's
going through that stuff that's
something and you have to be you have to
be on your P's and Q's on you can't just
approach it nonchalantly like there's no
way you go into that we do a white light
like oh you're not here and
it's mental and most but it is also
physical during I mean I actually was
ill after there you actually get so worn
down it gets in your nervous system you
start having organ problems it's not
pleasant at all I I leave that like this
like okay let's let someone else handle
it I won't know I I give people commute
asking me will you come to my house I
think I'm a demon I say not me
spirits not demons yeah and I mean I
mean that's a good thing to we're
talking my spirits and demons and it's
not just one of the other there's a
whole plethora of entities and
elementals and spirits of just
vibrational spirits of essences and love
and reflection and family so just to say
that one communes with the spirits it's
kind of a that's so that's a very broad
statement what type of spirits what have
you encountered what do you deal with
you know because we are entertaining
angels and angels are ministering
spirits that minister and so that um
send their form of spinors
spirits and there's so many so have you
ever had any I guess won't talk about
this have you ever had any encounters
with the elemental Kingdom the elemental
spirits at all angels like that well it
would be some that were over that the
elements maybe fairies gnomes elementary
I look at it I just wanted to clarify
yes fairies were thought about the
fairies the nature spirits would leave
us mm-hmm
no I don't really think I have I have
people that are very in tune to that I
am out nature well before the last eight
weeks you know I fractured my ankle and
I had surgery so I have not been
outdoors like I go out nature all the
time and I feel the energy of nature I
have not encountered the divas the
nature and the berries but I do feel the
energy around me so no I haven't had
that experience
what so you're talking about helping
people with spirits and being able to
feel them there's different ways of
feeling them smelling them even can you
you know yeah I think they play off of
our five senses right and there's
different probably with each sense
there's a way to sense that the spirit
right yeah you know mental I have a
tendency to be much more in my mind so
mental but the other night we were
having a spirit communication I had a
group about 10 and I kept smelling this
you know when you shave wood when you
work with wood that's beautiful smell of
it oh this is wonderful and I looked at
a woman I said I think that your
grandfather's here and did he work with
wood and she kind of hemmed in hard well
he did and then later she said well they
work to add a sawmill but he quit it to
go to something else
I said his spirit he was still with wood
I could smell the wood I could smell the
forest
I said he's outside and often you hear
you will hear sounds and that would be
like a message to somebody like I'm
hearing music like someone who passed on
that really liked music or I would smell
tobacco I would say to somebody you want
to smell it tobacco there's nothing here
but so our pipe smoker yep ah now so
that where the smell comes through you
know and then so it's not only what you
see it's what you smell what you're here
even what you taste I'll say to people
I'm tasting coffee I'm not really a
coffee drinker taste coffee of my mouth
I'm like a tasty coffee they'll say oh
my husband II had like four cups of
coffee every morning sounds like me and
it's just beautiful I really love my
work in that way and bringing some sort
of if hopefully my idea is can I bring
you something like comfort or knowledge
that's what I how I look at it what can
I bring you from the spirit world yeah
and there's um I guess when we're
talking about ESP extrasensory
perception that you know the different
clairvoyant clairaudient clear sentient
there's it's really cool because I like
to study that stuff and then read the
scriptures and as you're aware of that
we start seeing Jesus kind of like
operating in each one of these and then
the disciples being able to hear
something or have a dream or have a
smell or a feeling or a nudge or
whatever I'll be able to see a vision
and be able to heal people from that
I'll be able to help people you know get
to where they're trying to go so it's
been it's being able to be sensitive to
the spirit realm to help people where
they are and like you said it doesn't
matter which spirits I mean I guess
starting out for me it was it was you
know big on by using that stuff to
communicate with the Holy Spirit right
then the spirit of that that's
communicating with us through dreams
through visions through yeah Holy Ghost
right well see that's funny too because
I've been a part of circles that say
he's not a ghost he's gotta go so we're
not gonna use that term ghost the ghost
is of the you know disembodied spirits
so he's not a ghost we're gonna call him
Holy Spirit and then there's some
circles who get really weird and they
they only call a caller they call him
him they call it like it's a they like
they don't even call them spirit well
they call it spirit but that that's like
almost like that's the name of a person
like that's his name Holy Spirit you
know and they talked to him in that type
of way but you know different things for
different people you know whatever helps
them with their relationship so to me
it's all about yourself can you grow
from it do you look better from it
that's what it that's what all of us
about but talking about ESP in your book
how to talk talk with spirits you you
have a quiz in there that people can
take to see if they're if they're
sensitive to those feelings I created it
for my first book I don't get a good
psychic reading without getting conned
and you find out you know we're not
naturally usually we're not naturally
all clairvoyance clairsentience
clairaudience e clairvoyant can I see
clear audio do I hear clear sense enjoy
I feel most people are into the kind of
do I feel you you it's you could be very
vulnerable might be in that kind of
sensitive feeling everything because it
means that if somebody is upset you
become upset and you don't know why so
in the test it is asking questions to
help you decipher what kind of ESP
ability are you stronger in and how can
you make yourself how do you grow and be
stronger in the other areas and in that
way like me I am all of it now I was
really clairvoyant in the beginning as
see in everything and then I learned how
to listen and then how to feel and
feeling has to be translated into words
it often clears as sensient people
sensitives they don't have to know how
to get it up and speak about it they say
I feel it but I don't know how to say it
well I would teach people how to bring
it up and how to recognize it and say it
how to say their psychic impressions so
it's really interesting I I just love
that the telepathy and we're all
telepathic I mean it's not like you know
somebody somebody can be better at that
ability it's like I look at it at like
sewing I'm lucky I could sew a button
onto a garment mm-hmm
I have friends that can make an outfit
in the night we're gonna sit on just do
it so everyone has it and we use it all
the time and I know you're you're
married I know you and your wife will
say I was just gonna say now all the
time yeah because that's how connected
you are with your vibrational ways
now that's what love does it raises some
beautiful vibration wave and so until it
even when we speak to God or any spirits
will be in guidance we are using we're
doing it telepathically you're aware of
it that's not we can also influence in a
positive way hopefully in a positive way
our loved ones our community our country
by sending out telepathic thoughts
that's part of that ESP and I know I
brought a lot of comfort to people that
are both taking the test
take in my classes where they don't feel
like they're going crazy you know I
could tell you I think I'd be this or
that oh yeah tell me about it and then
then I help them understand you're not
crazy and then some who would do well
with a therapist or some other means
than I'd point them in that direction
yeah it's really you know and that that
takes the discernment of spirits to be
able to talk to that person and say yeah
you know we need to get you something
you we need to get you somebody else
versus just entertaining everything or
trying to be you know the healer for
everything some people need you know
those doctors or whatever there's I
think I think that there might be you
know you know submit medication that
could possibly help people and it's it
becomes weird um because I get those
messages too and trying to discern you
know where this person is mentally you
know how did they get there what you
know I'm saying what do they need those
type of things and so it's but you have
to be sensitive because like we just
said like these spirits want to get you
off your rocker they want you drooling
on yourself and seeing stuff that other
people can't see but we're built in
fashion that way so if you don't balance
the energies if you don't if it's
calling out to you you know and and
you've had those encounters and that's
what you want to pursue you have to be
able to balance the energies and in and
actually do the work or you will go mad
it just can't be just part of it you
know and then there are people who in
their brain they have already certain
chemicals are not working right or parts
of the brain and they do need that help
that helped to to have proper care
different from us and I certainly have
attracted a lot of people with bipolar
and schizophrenia yeah yeah my life
both personally and professionally yeah
and have to be very careful when they
tell me their visions because they truly
are having this experience but it's
hurting them yeah it's hurting them and
it's hurting their loved ones to watch
them you know because they don't take
care of their body anymore you know they
don't take care of themselves their life
becomes hard so it's as you said
sensitive to it there was a man that
wanted to come see me without his
medication schizophrenic yeah I don't
think that's a good idea if when you get
on your medicine I will make an
appointment for you you know even though
the medicine kind of blocks some of the
information because medicine will do
that in the psychic world yeah if I
opened up to him with with all of his
thoughts then I could possibly even feel
like I'm going bad yeah do you yeah I
mean definitely you being sensitive you
know and you're around that person who's
going through there I just we just had
someone recently who came around who
kind of told me and private that look
when I get around people they go they
start going schizophrenic it's like wow
to me that sounds like some type of
demons right some type of demonic
entities that you that um saying that
are on you that are messing with other
people I mean that's a thing too with
like being able to discern spirits when
someone has spirits that may feel
intimidating and you get around them you
can kind of hear their thoughts that
spirits communicating with you if you if
you do not balance the energy I don't
care who you are like you that stuff is
scary
it can it will drive you mad like so
you're having a conversation with
someone and you know what they're
thinking as they're trying to have a so
you're trying to listen to them but
there's this other telepathic almost
communication that's going on without
nobody saying a word and you have to
focus on what they're telling you it can
get really weird and overbearing and
there's medication and medicine to
silence all of that I don't think that's
the route I think it's balancing if
you're finding out how to turn it off
and on
developing your giftings and abilities
like a muscle you know you can get
better at it there's practice and stuff
like that but you have to if you it's
not there it's nothing to play with
right these are great examples because
it's nothing - hey watch these psychics
on TV and they're doing it we can do it
like you have to make sure that this is
something that you want to do and to get
into open those doors that there's you
know there's it could be done but a lot
of people have gone mad in the midst of
it and there's a lot of people who reach
out like I said to myself and to you and
we have to we have to figure out how to
help him because those voices can get
loud and you can't be around people
because you're just so sensitive and you
have I was in a place years ago I had to
leave I had to leave restaurants there's
this everybody's talking and I can feel
everything I'm trying to focus on my
wife and I just I have to go I had to go
sit in the car and just pray and read
the Bible just cuz it was I was so
sensitive and I couldn't control it and
there was just overbearing and scary and
not just multiple occasions what I had
to act I had to do that that's a very
good I couldn't control it
I didn't know how and if you did not
perhaps move into an area where he
worried but to balance yourself you
would read the Bible you would have
continued to feel you were going mad you
pretty soon you just be like I want to
be in a room away from everybody yeah
and there's people like that I've met
them over the years
they're wonderful people many of them
are artists yeah get it out through
their art and just talk to them and they
know they're being heard I think that's
the important part when a sensitive
finds a person like myself who says oh
yeah yeah yeah you're hearing too many
voices aren't you you could hear it you
know and just to watch their life begin
to change in a more educated way and
they can perhaps then go and help
another person because I think that's
what we're here for I think the
sensitives are here to help other people
if they can you know help other people
understand and feel they're not
weird yeah yeah but then with that
beacon if that's what you do hey I help
people feel like they're not weird then
obviously you attract the weirdos and
you have to discern through them and
some of it can be dangerous I mean I've
always heard about that stuff and the
overbearing fans and I've always heard
about pastors who would have who pastors
who would be married men and women are
just like God told me that you're my
husband you know and you're with the
wrong woman I've always heard about that
kind of stuff and now that stuff's
happening to me you know and these
people like overbearing people who would
they're not something's not clicking
like it's not you know they're living in
a different world you know and it's not
always good and I think that those type
of people haven't balanced the energy
and it can get scary man you've you know
it when that stuff happens and they
start messaging faint friends and fans
of you and it gets kind of weird stuff
that goes on and I mean we have to be
careful I've been dealing with a lot of
them a lot it's not just one or two here
it may in some cases it's been the
majority I'll say that you know that the
majority of people who come to me but I
believe that's help for a lot of people
but in some cases it's just overbearing
it's like man this is too much you know
this is really deep but then you have to
kind of remember why you're in it is to
help people and you need it when I
needed help I was in a similar place I
needed help I needed somebody to talk to
so you want to kind of be there but um
you had to be careful you saw getting a
name for yourself and people what do you
think I should do what do you think yeah
and then when they give me an answer I
can say I look at them psychically and I
see where they're coming from
yeah the chakras in the aura yeah well
you know this is kind of attached so
some really come it to me in some ways
as like and though I can't legally said
it's like a therapist mm-hmm I say to
somebody you know what do you have a
name of a good therapist because I think
that you could really heal through that
but there's times I go right to the
heart of it
and say you know you're feeling weak in
this area and if you think about it
people have come to me with stories of
going to other so-called psychics that
have taken them and said I had to give
them like five hundred dollars so they
light a candle I go well you go buy a
candle for a couple of bucks yeah you
can like it yourself so there's the
vulnerable during there always be the
vulnerable yeah I was gonna I was gonna
bring but it's like the psychic thing
too because I mean and I guess in a way
if I mean you're a psychic medium you
deal with the psyche you deal with
discerning spirits and helping people
get through that I have a friend of mine
who who goes under the title psychic and
she has a broadcast that we do together
every Wednesday nights tap in tune in on
blog talk tap into nin.com christie lee
psychic christie lee so i actually
helped with her a lot but people will
call in and they just want like that hey
man what do i do you know what do you
see i you know i want to get with this
person and you know and i am I gonna get
back with this lover and they it should
throw it to me I said there do you see
anything so it's just like you have to
you know the you know I'm saying the
ball is in your court do you want to get
back with this person let's start there
so you actually act as a therapist in a
sense it's like first you're just
calling ahead you got the answers let me
get it said what do you want I know
there are ways we can do it we can go
through prayer we can you know different
things you can do and activation and
things but it's whatever you want like
you know if you want it or not whether
you're just looking for somebody to to
speak it out and I mean there's power in
that you want somebody to say hey you
want somebody to affirm you and say yes
you're gonna get that marriage God's
gonna restore it you know and that's
where prophesying comes in you're almost
telling the future almost in that sense
but you want to make sure you're right
you don't want to just like call into
somebody you know if somebody's calling
in and they and they need help and they
want to know if this is gonna work out
you got to let them know that look the
power the power is in your hands the
ball is in your court what do you want
to do
do you want that marriage to work out
well guess what there's things to do to
make the marriage work out you know
there's things to do to make that
relationship if things to do to get that
job you know didn't happen or June that
thing happened I says well did you take
the first part of the baby the first 30
minutes was something worried there was
looking at all these steps there might
be and you know people forget why our
readers called readers they're called
readers because they're reading your
caustic records they're reading your
inner-self they're reading what you
already know that's there they're not
going to tell you how to live your life
I wrote about that in my first book when
you go to get the most out of a reading
ask a question in a certain way not will
I be back with that person you know how
do I create love and my loving partner
in my life how do I create a loving
supportive partner in my life is it this
person here can we look at him or her
I'm okay well let's look at that and see
what has to be done exactly what you
said unfortunately people think that
psychics are all-knowing and that is not
true I don't even care for the word
psychic but since everybody relates to
it I use it I call myself a verbal
communication spiritualist but so how do
you when you go when you ask a question
how do you ask a question who has that
ability to look at the big picture not
just to look at the end result will I
get a job I don't know how you're
looking for one have you point
applications in are you trying you're
probably will I do see a job and it has
that you know then you can describe what
you see in order to get it you then have
to do the applique
oh yeah an education kind of works
Hanahan and so people don't have time
for the education money yeah I am I
started I started sort of um burning
sage a couple years ago and I had a guy
come over to the house and he said do
you think that works you think sage you
know clears the spirits and stuff like
that you think it works I said well I
say yeah I do
kind of like skeptical say yeah because
once I started I started you know
burning sage I'll you know I'll I lost a
lot of friends like all the negative
people kind of stayed away from me and
it's funny it's funny cuz we'll go we'll
go to like you know I'm saying the
Indian powwow and there'll be a tent and
they'll be burning sage you know in that
you know they have trinkets and sage and
stuff for sale and it'll be nobody in
there's like you may want to put the
sage out its age maybe keeping all the
negative people away the way so I wanted
to ask you about that sage do you do you
do you burn sage do you believe in you
know clearing and cleansing before you
do anything spiritual like that I know
you talk about praying but you believe
in burning sage and in a way that
affects spirits and stuff yes again you
know we would have a high mass
frankincense and people would be like oh
I don't like that as a kid I loved it
right away
I was like oh man that's great because
you know you look at aromatherapy we'll
look at perfume let's take it said women
and men
they decorate themselves with sense to
attract right you were to attract
animals do it to attract that you sense
and how powerful the sense of smell is
and how powerful it goes to our minds
our psyche it can take us back to
childhood
it can take us to a favorite time or a
person so I do believe it in the power
of aromatherapy and certainly people are
using it more and more for healing at
this time they start you know and so
what does the stage do well it's made of
sweet grass and this made of fat that
brings up nature the Divas right we're
back to the divas now and they are
cleaning out the energy the air well
people go through and they spray their
house which I don't like those sprays at
all but they spray I use more natural
they spray their house with sets before
guests come over and I won't get to
somewhere I go oh it's burn your house
yeah chemicals it's the same thing it's
not again it's not that far out
and certainly the stage does clean the
energy in in a room in a building I do
use it
I used it the other night when I did a
whole ritual for All Hallows and I used
the frankincense in the mirth and you
use certain sense for certain reasons
yeah someone brought this up about Sage
and they said they didn't like it
because of this but this was a new idea
that I had heard it says that sage
doesn't clear out the negative spirits
Said's kind of like clears out all
spirits and then from that point of
kinda like oh I pushing the reset button
so almost like clear in the room and
then maybe being able to kind of reset
it with your spirit or the spirits that
you bring into it or whatever but it was
this weird notion that this got brought
up that the fact that it would clear out
all spirits you know then then of course
you know when you're clearing you have a
chance or a prayer but you kind of you
chance certain words and so you are
clearing the space you know but it
certainly does clear the space and if
anything is clear the psyching of your
mind it's a ritual it's a rich at the
end of the day whether it's just that
prayer some people say I don't need any
sage I don't believe in I don't use it I
just pray in your mind that prayer is
the equivalent of that sage you know
it's that ritual it's still the power of
the ritual and if I do this this will
happen or this gets me in the mood or
even like coffee in the morning I'm not
sure how how much coffee wakes me up
anymore I just it's my ritual I just
enjoy it in the morning to start the day
you know and throughout the day as well
you're just used to those rituals brush
your hair it's a ritual and you know
rituals are important because we are
physical beings you know mental
emotional physical and certain objects
physical objects put us in the right
mind frame to open up to anything and
life is just coffee in the morning I've
had people say if I don't have my two or
three cups
I'm not functioning I mean or on
whatever and I but really that's really
not true but it's true you exactly
exactly
you know and
you know that's the stuff when people
talk about say witchcraft or casting
spells and they say well it's terrible
you know they like candles and they have
thins and that well it's a ritual of I'm
connecting with things that are
physically I'm I'm looking I'm smelling
I'm hearing and it's not they're not bad
the objects like a crystal does a
crystal itself does it's age itself does
the trocars itself no it's what you put
into them does the Bible itself I knew
people who are just I mean they they
felt the same way about their Bible like
even see like in a lot of the movies and
the Catholic circles were they're like
if they're doing an exorcism they put
the Bible on them or they put the cross
on their forehead and they how they burn
up and stuff and like that
that relic has no power in and of itself
it's just pages and paper or whatever
but if you believe that it does and
maybe maybe if your belief is strong
enough that when you do that something
will happen now there's like it can it
can transfer because you believe it so
much so when that person is kind of in
limbo they don't know I look at Jesus
even like when he spit in the dirt and
made the mud and wiped it in that guy's
eyes and he was healed I don't think
that had anything to do with his spit or
the dirt I think it was just an act of
faith that if I did this and make
something up that you didn't think I
could use to do it and I've seen things
happen like that with people being
healed or whatever the case is or like
miracles happening or the spirit of a
room changing because someone did
something different and that's usually
what it is going outside of what we know
to be like this is what it is and it's
only this way and so I think that even
this podcast were able to kind of
discuss some of the things that people
think they have it figured out but
there's this more than one you know way
to kind of say to my book it actually
was a stormy or windy day my younger
sister saying oh my god oh my god you're
gonna come to my house the baby swing
was going like this she said there's a
woman here and she said she has to
talk to you and it was physically the
spirit of the woman has murdered showed
up to my younger sister because she
wasn't getting the attention off of me
that she needed so I had to drive all
the way across town in the rain with my
toddler and she had a young baby too and
her baby swing was like this yeah it was
it it it wasn't turned on and it was
swinging and then when I showed up I saw
the woman she manifests it remember I
said I don't mind seeing them in my mind
but when they actually manifest and sit
next to me and I could actually feel
them I'm not that comfortable with it
I'm like oh my god let me get through
this and so she did manifested she told
me what she needed to tell me in regards
to her murder and so that was one
example of yes actually showing up and
there was another time where I was in
bed it was maybe 2:00 in the morning and
I heard a buzzing in my bedroom I opened
my eyes and I saw one of these like
little tiny dots like electrical doc you
know buzzy and it was going up in a
shake and it was in the shape of so when
I recognized I thought well this is tall
and skinny like Jack a friend of mine
who was in the hospital and it kept
buzzing then it went away
well her about 7:00 in the morning I got
a call from her his cousin he says you
know jack passed over I said oh my god
he said he passed over about 2:00 in the
morning they brought him back okay then
he totally expired they declared him
dead I'm gonna happen and that was him
appearing to me and I'm telling you the
room was lit up with these little tiny
dots and the sound was you know when
electricity buzzing yeah that's what I
was like that was amazing I could tell
you more brother yeah yeah that actually
physically shows up yeah interesting it
does yeah I've had a lot of encounters
like that it's really cool to talk to
people who have they get a lot of people
on here who are there like an expert in
their field but they've never seen
anything in the physical reality it's
all theory or they read it in a book or
they just kind of feel it you know I'm
saying inwardly which I think that's
that's where it starts at is inwardly
with hum I'm saying telepathy and things
like that and being able to deal with
the cycle but you know the stuff I'm
that that really interests me is when
the two worlds collide you know what I'm
saying and something shows up or we
either they come to us or we you know we
go to them so that the worlds collide
you know between the two worlds or
dimensions if you will the veil there
meaning that the barrier drops yeah
you're free to move between the worlds
it's a great time to sit at your home we
always in this house we light a white
candle we put up the pictures of our
loved ones that have passed and after
the trick or treats and we lay out a
little cookie a little trick or treat
for them and then we sent my husband and
I sit and we both say we both go into
commune with our loved ones and it's
beautiful I mean it's a beautiful ritual
to have and we feel you know yes there's
tears no we miss our we miss our loved
ones that have gone to the other side at
the same time we could still communicate
with them and yeah they can show up but
you know why they don't it takes a lot
of energy you have to act physically
appear in this world to actually even
get a message over to you will take
energy that's why people say well they
came and they just said hello oh well
that's really keep thinking I don't know
if you've practiced telepathy but
telepathy you have to be clear and focus
and think and send a message like very
focused yeah so it takes energy that's
why they don't ramble on to you yeah in
you know I think a lot of times too it
doesn't come through in words like a lot
of people are listening for a message
like like an audible tell her I love her
you know what I'm saying it maybe you
get this strong sense of love that comes
upon you and you feel loved or you think
about one of your loved ones and it's a
but you have to be the one that actually
has to interpret the message for the
person right articulated in some type of
way where they they understand
you'll say I remember some people want
to say you know and don't ask for
somebody to come that you don't really
know about them because the media was
asking you're like yeah I see I see he
has kind of brown hazel eyes and the
persistent no no no you know I'm I
really don't remember I don't know where
his eyes are well you kind of taken the
energy away that's courtesy well I'm not
gonna hang around too long I said to one
person I feel Alfred has come through
for you no no no no no and then I said
well this message no no no his name was
Albert oh my god okay let's just call
him al so it's not easy for the spirit
to always get the message and
symbolically they will show you stuff
like maybe I'll loved an old car he was
restoring so I'm seeing a car or maybe
mom loves to look out of her kitchen
window and she had a favorite rosebush
so I've seen a rose bush so you're
absolutely right it's not always words
and then as a medium you do your best to
convey the message verbally and the more
present the more open the more connected
a person is spiritually that's why I do
a little meditation with the with
whoever comes to me let's open our minds
let's open our hearts mm-hmm that's what
it's about and so well I will coming to
the end of the podcast June I really
enjoyed this discussion if there's
anything else that if there's anything
you didn't didn't mention and we didn't
touch on that you want to let me know
and we'll talk about it but if not you
can go ahead and share your links either
stuff where people can can find your
work and find your books my book yes how
to talk with spirits really is about
bringing you closer comfort it's not
unusual we do it all the time when loved
ones pass we always say if I could just
say something to you I want to say
something to you so it's not unusual for
us humans to want to be connected to our
pets my whole thing in there about how
to connect with pets I think the beauty
of this time of Halloween is to have fun
but
in the place that it is a sacred time
it's a very sacred time as like
Christmas and Easter and such and my
links are June a her an ahe are n.com
from that page you can get to my blog
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you could buy my book there you can buy
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I'm here to educate people so that they
do feel a sense of connection to a
divine source and all energies that are
around us which to avoid and which to
feel grateful that they can connect with
thank you very thank you for having me
on I love this conversation oh
definitely enjoyed it we have to do it
again okay thank you my friend have a
good one thank you happy hello happy
Halloween she said I cut it off right at
the end June a her and ladies and
gentlemen happy Halloween
All Hallows Eve I've got some messages
because we are participated in a haunted
hayride over the last two weeks for my
wife's work they put it together so we
had I was I was helping a lot with it
like trying to get people ready and what
roles people played and stuff like that
it was fun
scared a lot of people some people cried
some people had fun some people were
brick wall and didn't move them there's
this weird thing that like just I'm
talking about life in general everything
about life and even that like feeling
emotions you never being being scared
that's an emotion like that's a funny
motion to play with at times right I
mean that was my fascination with horror
movies as a as a kid I wanted to feel
and you feel scared that is a weird
feeling to tap into I mean any of the
best movies out there they deal with all
of it and I'm thinking of the movie get
out you're gonna be it's a thriller
you're gonna be scared air there's
comedy in it
there's horror in it and it deals it's
like a roller coaster ride of emotions
and so essentially with this
would he call it up hey ride it was a it
was like a rollercoaster through the
woods it was a hayride and you got to
feel again you got to live again man and
so it's fun so just we're just kind of
coming to terms with it because I used
to be against a lot of that stuff when I
got really religious and you know I'm
saying just started I would didn't
participate in any of the secular
holidays no Christmas no Easter just
looking up the roots of it it's pagan
why do I want to be a fellate it was
something pagan I'm not a pagan so
started just researching our suffering
we started withdrawing from all of that
for years and so we've only started
doing Halloween the last couple years is
dressing up and walking around the
neighborhood with the family and friends
and having fun being silly scaring
people scaring ourselves all that kind
of stuff so there's so many scriptures
the Lord didn't give you the spirit of
fear but about all of this kind of stuff
but um sometimes you know people use
that even as crawling 'he's here edie
says in the chat fear can be used as an
awakening yeah the fear fears uh fears
not always bad man fear the Lord's are
beginning to wisdom
so it's you know dealing with that but
you know even with just feeling the
emotions and the movies like it was some
other movie get out we'll just watch the
whole that whole series of the haunting
at Hill House I do recommend that you're
probably gonna have to deal with some
feelings and emotions watching that some
of it was strong some of it was funny
like it was it was deep there's a deep
deep series on Netflix but it was good
and makes you think about death man and
so it's not the fact like I've been
talking about here lately even with some
of the friends in discord it's like it's
not that I'm afraid to die I'm afraid of
death or whatever what happens in the
great beyond whether it's you go to
heaven or you're just with the father or
you go to another place that looks like
this or whatever the case is I really
feel like we go back to energy it's a
different you know the I don't know
where we go but it's not think it looks
like this with that being said this is
really cool
this is fun I don't really believe in
reincarnation I don't think that we get
to push a reset button and just do it
again and if you get into prayer
meditation you can find out who you were
in a past life I don't really I'm not
really vibe with that I do believe in
the reincarnation of spirits and in
essences and there's no such thing as as
as death some of the beliefs of like the
Jehovah Witnesses they kind of believe
in like Total Annihilation is that like
through Christ you inherit everlasting
life life eternal you have life and if
you reject Christ you reject that which
is good then you are annihilated total
annihilation you don't exist anymore and
so that that that fear that you have
that you won't exist when you die like
they kind of believe in that so there's
some other religions and faiths that
kind of believe in that but I feel like
we're gonna be translated to you know
back to energy I feel like I've been to
that place for like I've visited that
place from from in the past so so my
fear of death isn't like I still have a
fear of death now but it's not that I
don't want it to be an overwhelming
because it can get scary man like if you
you can mess with you you know time I
mean just looking at my life and looking
at my daughter watching her grow up like
that's a that lets you know that you
know I still feel like I'm I'm a young
man I was talking about my wife
yesterday we still feel like we're young
like you know we don't feel like
nothing's changed but the reality that
something has changed this is the fact
that I'm able to look at my daughter and
she's growing and she's not gonna stop
like she's growing so that um I'm
outside of time for real like I don't
really measure time it's hard for me to
even keep up with dates and stuff but I
was look at my daughter she I have to
you know I'm saying I have to because
she's growing I see all pitches when she
was an infant pitch you know videos when
she was seven four you know all this
kind of stuff and to let you know how
frail this life is and how short this
life is in life is but a vapor and that
we're here one day and gone the next and
so
but this life is beautiful and so
looking at a just everything that we
have all the little stuff and it I could
just get into weird stuff I had weird
revelation just on the taste of
chocolate man you know what I'm saying
it's like man is when you pass you're
not gonna be able to eat chocolate no
more you're not gonna be able to go
swimming anymore or go off a diving
board you know I'm saying so with this
life what I kind of have have given
myself over to is just to kind of like
make everybody's life a little bit more
enjoyable a little bit more fun and
create memories men that you can you can
look back on those memories and so even
when you do pass and you're not here
anymore you do have those memories you
don't want to be the guy or the gal who
when you die people rejoice you don't
want to be the the person that when you
die people are you just forgotten about
or you left a bad taste in people's
mouth I don't want to I don't I don't
want to be that guy right I want to be
someone who is you know I'm saying
people rejoice over and some people
people you know you made people's life
better you made them smile you know the
laughter you're telling jokes being
silly like all that stuff man so I've
been and I don't know like I do I get
fascinated from time to time with death
and um but then watching this show the
haunting at Hill House it really brought
things into a lot of perspective for me
about it but um it's got kind of weird I
had to get into the scriptures and start
reading about deaths and about eternal
life and about Jesus and what he did and
I going to create a place for you and in
my father's house has many mansions and
you're gonna be with me forever so I had
to kind of read those things not that
you know don't take life for granted at
the end of the day don't take nothing
for granted man you know we look at our
children you know we look at life we're
here today gone the next and people
always tell you when you have a kid you
know hey man
enjoy those moments now because they
grow up so fast and you hear that when
they got a little kid when your kids
little
and you also hear it when you're kids 14
you know we just celebrated my
daughter's birthday so it brings things
into perspective
life is short time is frail
you know what I'm saying and make the
best of it that's why I ain't got no
time for no BS you can take their BS get
out of my face with it I don't want to
entertain no craziness so get out get
out of my face with that Kenny says I
believe that the new earth will be much
better than this this earth so yeah
there's a belief there that uh that I
guess we go to heaven when we die right
and then the New Jerusalem comes down
and earth is restored and then we get a
second life on earth maybe the Bible
says that the meek shall inherit the
earth
and so obviously job job says that the
earth is given into the hands of the
wicked but there's going to be a time
coming with the the meek shall inherit
the earth so there's that belief there
that we're gonna return back to the
earth or the earth is gonna be purified
with fire and you know first it was
destroyed with water now the next time
it's gonna be destroyed with fire and
make all things new we come back to
earth maybe ask physical beings maybe as
you know it's it's it's really unclear
really is um maybe it's a mixture maybe
it's a mixture so yeah I'm trying to
read some of these questions here or
these comments um so yeah to have this
conversation you know it is a I don't
you know I can't say that I agree with
everything that all my guests bring out
and shoot I even found myself saying
stuff that I had to go back on or people
call me on that I could award it
differently at the end of the day right
trying to have I mean it's almost
getting close to probably 200 episodes
so I talk a lot and I try not to repeat
myself even though I do and if I repeat
myself hope lives because it's something
that needed to be said but um it's about
having those conversations like why are
you talking to this person there's
people who will see that the title of
this show this episode and I stay away
from it obviously other people even
though I don't try to be there was you
know people kind of say that this is the
controversial get there
the controversial host with the
controversial show and all this kind of
stuff but I just I just kind of pride
myself on having that conversation where
you're pastors won't write your pastor
won't have the conversation or if they
do they're really condescending in it
I'm just gonna you got to be open-minded
and see how the stuff relates back to
the scriptures you know I'm saying see
how it relates back to you what's real
let's get to the bottom of it is some
there's some interesting topics you know
it's a I mean there was even people
posting in the chat that we're not
supposed to consult the dead well what
do you do when the dead consults you
because that's definitely happening
happening
it's definitely happening what do you do
okay well what about Jesus going up to
the Mount of Transfiguration and the
dead contacting him there part of me
thinks that he's contacting the dead if
he has to kind of get himself ready and
get himself prepared and go to that
place to meet he wasn't stupid he knew
what was going on the Bible says that
we're surrounded by such a great cloud
of witnesses who are like looking over
it's watching over us and here's an
instance that the Mount of
Transfiguration where Jesus communicated
with them he met with them pretty
interesting because I'm under the
impression that that wasn't a one-time
thing
I'm under these trances and dreams and
vision trance States and stuff you got
you have to get good at that like you
have to practice strand state meditation
you have to practice meditation leaving
your body being caught up to the
heavenly realms you have to practice
this stuff so that when the Bible talks
about it and it says that they were
caught up into a trance or fell into a
trance or in a dream state I don't think
that these were one-time things I think
we never really got a a picture of what
Jesus was doing when he would go into
his prayer chamber on top of the
mountain or into the cave or wherever
and speak with the father in prayer well
this one time people followed him up
there and we got to see what he was
doing his
and his countenance transformed to white
raiment and then we see MC Moses and
Elijah meeting with him at the top of
this mountain I think this happened all
the time
I think they spoke with him I think that
he imparted to him they taught him he
figured out how to do that how to get in
communication with them I believe it I
believe it so there's a bunch of there's
a bunch of stuff that was that was
something that was practiced in the east
men the people who went before you they
never leave you your grandparents whose
past that you guys were close they never
left like you when the wind blows you
feel them when you see a hummingbird or
when you smell smoke and there's nobody
smoking around you but a reminder of
your grandfather's pipe like there's
different things that remind you of
their essence that remind you that
they've still here with you you haven't
went anywhere so we're just here to have
that conversation I'm working on some
new music right now had writer's block
for a couple weeks it's over I'm happy
writing some good stuff
so dealing with that working on the
colors EP 7 song EP influenced by the
chakras not specifically about but just
kind of each song is influenced by a
particular chakra I was working on a
song called stuck on the sacral chakra
and I got stuck I got stuck working on a
song called stuck
I got stuck for about three weeks so
anyway that song is done on my end I've
got another song I'm working on now and
we are working on some really good stuff
if you want to check this stuff out all
the stuff that's already recorded it's
already uploaded it on my patreon all
those who are supporting you already get
access to that and some of it is like
some of the best stuff I've done it's
hard to top what I've already done I
feel but I have like that's the bar it
has to be has to meet or beat meet or
beat so that's a that could
strenuous it's not it's not always
that's fun you're like hold on I can't
how many times can you rhyme Kundalini
how many times can you talk about the
light that shines bright at night in the
sky I can remind fine like how do you
I'm still using these roms
but how many times can uh I don't know
we're just gonna find new creative ways
to just keep read telling that the same
stories nothing's really changed man
it's the same thing we just try to keep
the fire going
edie crawling 'he's asked a little while
ago in chat and he said uh what is the
purpose of these spiritual gifts what is
the purpose of them we talked my ESP
those are spiritual giftings ESP 1000%
it's spiritual giftings your church
won't call it that your pastor won't
call it that but if we read the
scriptures and we see how they
interacted with the spirit realm it was
through your senses and so the different
clairvoyant clairaudient clare sentience
is using your senses to be impressed by
the spirit the spirits reach out to you
so he was asking like what is it used
for
and there was a teacher man that I
wanted to get some years ago I had some
friends that we used to work with in the
spirit and we used to do ministry
together but they got involved in
something that's called the reformed
theology and so it's more of the belief
of what has cost some cset cessation
cessation which believes that the
spiritual gifts have died that they're
not for today that God doesn't heal
nobody anymore there is no more apostles
there are no disciples all of that stuff
is kind of sealed within the book and
God only speaks through the book he
doesn't speak to your heart he doesn't
convict you of sin whatever the case is
this how we talk about having this
relationship with the Holy Spirit they
don't believe in that anymore so there's
a it's a it's a Baptist theology John
MacArthur's big on it but they make fun
of spiritual giftings and stuff it's
really funny because they just give the
spirituality and the spiritual gift
things over to the new way
it ain't dead with the New Age they're
still thriving when it comes to
spirituality and so for those in the
churches who will say that it's it's
done away with and people and you run
into a problem when people are having
dreams people are having visions and
they're in church and you're like no
that's demonic we got to get we got to
pray that off of you and that's that's
really where they approaches it approach
it from but that's not the case God
still speaks through his Spirit through
the same way the same interactions that
the disciples and apostles had it's the
same interactions that we can have and
so where does it fit in and so I've got
a teaching that I've done some years ago
right back where my friends kind of
departed from hanging out what they
didn't want to be associated with this
would be around us this was in Christian
ministry because they went to another
Church and all that kind of stuff but I
had a study that I did where the Lord
led me to the book of Matthew where it
showed Jesus operating in spiritual
giftings and healings and miracles and
it was he was able to win people over
because of the spiritual giftings and it
wasn't that he just healed somebody he
had a word of knowledge or a word of
wisdom that came forth where he knew
things about people that the only way he
can he could know these things is if God
told him so he operated off of a word of
wisdom and then he spoke it out and he
won the person over then he was able to
kind of pray and heal that person and so
this is how all this stuff works
together then they received the gospel
know what they received the message and
so I've got that outlined and I may do a
video on that just to kind of show you
the reasons for the spiritual giftings
and some of the people who have learnt
under in the past believe that denying
people the spiritual giftings is denying
them a piece of Jesus and if Jesus
needed it then how much more do we need
it if the disciples needed it how much
more do we needed it I tell you what it
makes it a lot more fun and it makes it
more interactive and we become
co-creators we'd be this whole dance and
song a dance of the mystery of the
being revealed unless it makes it a lot
more fun and if you want to understand
it
I'd say read the Bible and study the ESP
stuff together understand you stand out
you don't have to go too deep into it
watch what you get into obviously but be
led of the Holy Spirit in the different
ways that the spirit communicates with
you she talked about smell you know I'm
saying being able to smell things being
able to smell fragrances and sweet
aromas or we've been involved in in
exorcisms casting demons out of people
before and you smell garbage smell
rotting flesh so up you know what I'm
saying you smell that when demons leave
so and then we've been in the presence
of the Lord where there's just an
overwhelming sweet aroma that a [Â __Â ]
that shows up but overwhelming sweet a
rote aroma that appears and it's like
sweet honey or honeysuckles or man fresh
bread you know what I'm saying and you
smell these these pleasing smells and so
it deals with with the senses and so
it's really interesting when it comes to
being insensitive to those realms and
with how much telepathy and you're
talking about things that you can't
prove like the only thing that you can
prove through telepathy as if you're
able to kind of do something that's that
actually shows up or manifest in the
physical realm so that was me you know
having all these UFO encounters that
would speak telepathically okay how do I
get people to believe me you don't think
I'm a crazy person let me try to be able
to recreate that if there was a time
where I'm meditating or if they all
communicate say hey look let me show
some people there's all these people
think I'm crazy let me connect and will
you show up will you show these people
and there's been times where we've went
out and I've done that and they appear
that people see all types of crazy
maneuvers and stuff going on in the
night sky and there's also been times
where we try to do that and nothing
happens at all so you know you be the
judge but yep but yeah ed says cool
you've done exorcisms yeah man yeah yeah
we've participated in a lot I've had
them done to me you know in the past
when I was a young teenager I've it was
going through a lot of crazy dark stuff
and I've had it done to me but I believe
in you know confession just just
confessing to your brother's confession
to people around you to kind of rid
yourself of spirits as well sometimes
they want to latch on to you but if you
confess it you know that you know they
don't they can't hide anywhere you have
to bring it to the light so there's
things that we can get caught up in
Maude you know I've people confess all
kinds of stuff to me you know what I'm
saying and I'd do that to other people
just so that I don't have to hold it in
the whole sin with Adam dealing with in
the garden was the fact that he was
trying to hide stuff from God or trying
to hide it from other people and that's
the whole thing about sin and stuff that
you're trying to hide that you don't
want people to know about because you're
vulnerable that's why this podcast is
doing so good because we're vulnerable
here you know I've getting messages keep
being vulnerable keep doing what you're
doing you know what I'm saying and it's
showing people look we're trying to hide
and act like everything was good all the
time and we still you know struggle and
we still wonder and we still worry and
we still fear we still doubt you know
all these stuff still plays and just be
open and honest with it and not acting
like we have everything figured out
because we don't and I say run from the
people who claim that they do it's
working so home Saul says you can heal
right now with kind words yeah man
confession confess it before the Lord if
you don't really have nobody to talk to
but I would say I would suggest finding
somebody who can deal with that and who
can help pray with you and and confess
it I mean that's what we kind of do here
that's what we do in our discord chat
even as a believer man I had things that
I was going through that I felt just a
weighty oppression oh and what I
wouldn't call it possession demons
didn't you know I have total control of
me but
it's the same thing being oppressed it's
the same thing you feel the weight of
those spirits you feel the weight of
that stuff and until you confess it
you're gonna try to carry it and you're
not meant to carry that stuff jesus said
take my my yoke upon you learn from me
for I am gentle and lowly in heart take
my yoke take my baggage take my burdens
so he can take yours so we're not we're
most of us are going around here
carrying things we're not supposed to
carry and carrying them too long man
results in death you know sin when it's
fully conceived it gives birth to death
and so the sins and the things we're
trying to hide from people hide from
your wife your spouse your your boss
whatever hiding stuff from people don't
do that the Bible says to be in the
light as he is in the light and there we
have freedom from from our sins because
we confess it there's a there's a
beautiful DVD or a V or whatever you
could probably find on YouTube but
Lauren Hill did her live in MTV Live
thing back in like 2001 maybe where she
kind of retired from the music scene and
then came back doing this open acoustic
almost Christian thing just a lot of
worship songs and just her adoration to
God but she talked about the power of
being vulnerable and just like the media
how they want this juicy stuff that
nobody knows and she just kind of
started walking around telling the media
just being open and honest and say hey
this is it that's what's going on and
then they didn't they weren't hounding
her no more the paparazzi and media
wasn't hounding her no more but she was
just being open just kind of telling
them you know giving them the stuff like
it's not a secret you don't have the
scoop anymore because I'm open and then
um and she said even so like she had
things that she wanted to get out and
they wouldn't even cover it things that
she wanted to get out but yeah people
want the the the juicy stuff and that's
where the spirits like the high - in the
juicy stuff and tell you you know don't
tell nobody that they're gonna do this
and we got stuff we go through man
little weird thoughts that we've had
that we can't get out of our head man
you try to keep it to yourself
you gotta confess that stuff man find
somebody you can't just tell anybody you
can't tell anybody anything you know you
have people that you can't even tell
your dreams and your visions I have very
few people I talk about my talked about
this with King James like I have very
few people that I tell my next move now
I won't tell them what I'm doing I won't
tell them what I'm working on my guests
that are coming up I have only a certain
amount of people who I'm just open with
them and just open with everybody with
certain things that I go through people
will take it and they'll use your
weaknesses against you they'll hold it
over your head all of this kind of stuff
so you do have to be careful you know
I'm saying the Bible says not to take
your pearls and just cast them before
swine something that is so precious to
you and you're just gonna give it to the
pigs
let the swan just trample them under
their feet laugh at it make fun of it
you know call you names that stuff's out
that even the people you didn't you
wouldn't think would that's the that's
like that's the devastating thing when
you share visions and things with people
who you think are gonna be like yeah man
let's do it pursue it I believe in it
you know God's got your back you can
make it happen you should confess things
to people who you think we're gonna
appreciate it and they laugh at you or
they say no I don't think that's God or
whatever the case is you know I've had
to deal with that in the past you know
you were just looking for affirmation
we're talking about the psychic thing I
really think that that's dealing with
the affirmations to a lot of these
people already know what they want
before they call the psychic hotline
they just need to hear somebody else
vocalize it they need to have somebody
else vocalize it you need to have that's
why over and over I always said look
I'll give you the permission I'll give
you the permission to prophesy I give
you the permission to fulfill your
dreams you can do it there's nothing
stopping you you are the only thing
stopping you get with God know that you
can birth it walk in it sometimes we
need to be able to hear somebody
vocalize that and just kind of let us
know look we're not alone and then just
that man that's prophesying been able to
look at the valley of dead bones and say
look you're gonna live again man
I know it looks like you've been dead
you've been here a long time and you're
in a dry place but doesn't there's a
season come and God has greater things
in store for you
prophesying is just simply declaring the
Word of God over somebody prophesying is
simply relating the Oracles of God the
prophetic word of God now getting a word
of knowledge getting a word of wisdom
about something specific that that
person's going through there's that too
and that kind of deals what prophecy as
well because you're able to prophesy
what that person is going through a
prophesy get kind of specific knowledge
but as far as just the scriptures in
general no your best days are ahead of
you it's up to you how bad do you want
it I can't do the work for you prophesy
on the word of faith over people so
there's promises of God that we know
that we can just sprinkle throughout our
conversation then let it be seasoned
with salt as Paul says when we're just
in our in our conversation that's what
we talk about casting out demons through
conversation so we just speak in the
word of truth through speaking the word
of faith over people through
conversation speaking life not death
blessings not cursings over people in
casual conversation and stuff it's
moving stuff is shifting and then if
you're sensitive you can know you can
feel it just like I can feel it right
now as I'm speaking as ministering to
somebody somebody needs to hear it
everybody can do that you know if you're
so sensitive to the spirit you know what
to say what to do when to do it
everything else is vanity it's about
walking in the spirit walking in the
truth with the renewed mind I just did a
video on that if you haven't watched
that go back and watch the Christ
consciousness video it's essentially
just talking about having the
consciousness of Christ through the
renewed mind that's what it's about
renewing your mind daily we talked about
dealing with exorcisms talked about like
communicating with spirits and we're all
dealing with spirits whether we want to
admit it or not whether you know you are
or not we're all dealing with spirits I
deal with the Holy Spirit
for the most part we also deal with
other spirits as well Holy Spirit brings
other spirits with it as well
but it's about being sensitive to it and
knowing it and walking with a certain
level of conviction holiness and
convocation the giftings and callings
are without repentance so you could be
doing whatever living in sin committing
adultery running around on your wife
stealing whatever the case is just
shooting heroin with all of this kind of
stuff that we know people who are doing
this and the giftings and abilities are
still there the calling is still there
because it's without repentance it's
gonna stay there but there's a certain
level of holiness that I've made myself
walk in if my hands are clean and my
heart's on pure I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna deal with it if I have secrets in
that's not confessed that's how I've
learned to kind of confess it because
I'm so much engaging the spirit realm
I'm engaging my spiritual life and my
spiritual walk that I can't have
anything that's gonna muddy the water I
can't I gotta be able to receive as a
clean and open vessel so you know there
would be times where just on a roller
coaster I miss in it or I'm not I'm in
it and I'm not and it's not that I'm not
in it I just pull away I'm just
sensitive there were times in the past
where I was going through stuff and you
know people wanted to be baptized and
things like that and I said look I'll
hold the camera I'm not I'm not doing I
don't want to be seen I don't want to be
you know I'm just gonna be in the
background and know when it's time to
draw away and know when it's time to
work that's what it's about and you have
to be able to want to do that you have
to you have to be the one to judge what
seasons you're in hands clean heart pure
you don't have a naught against anyone
gossip slander all of this stuff kind of
gets in the way and muddies the water
backbiting selfish ambition money doing
it for gain trying to balance money this
one y'all saying my lyrics it's hard to
balance it's call calling and at the
same time
Bill's leaving my body when the riffs
that time stand still I'm dead ticket
world like an overdose of Xanax pills
it's hard we got to learn you better
with all of it the spirituality dealing
with the spirit realm discerning of
spirits you get used to spirits man you
better meet a person and know okay I see
what's happening then we have to open
your mouth that's how good you can get
you get around somebody blonde can you
hear it in their voice that reflection
it gets really really deep you already
know about this person you probably know
more about that person than they know
about themselves because you've dealt
with those spirits that are operating
through or on that person it gets deep
you know more about that person than
they know about themselves
Chris Barr says I practice practice
practice practice the presence is what I
seen when I read that but yeah if you
desire it the Bible says to there's a
version I think it's the NIV that says
to to lust after the spiritual gifts to
burn with passion to do honestly desire
the spiritual gifts and to prophesy
desire this stuff let it consume you
study it in and out get good at it
not for you not for people to pat you on
the back but for you to be used to help
people see change how people see
breakthrough in their life and i've said
it it's part of my life
yours you can go as deep with god you
can go as deep in the spirit as you want
as you want there's no limit somebody's
limited somebody just has their only on
this one level you can go deeper you can
go as deep as you can believe this it
this life this experience it's wild it's
crazy as a man thinketh in his heart so
shall we be whatever you can believe God
for
he said whatever you can believe for
whatsoever you can fathom nothing shall
by any means be impossible unto you
nothing who's to tell you what that
nothing is that nothing is different for
different people for some people that
nothing is trying to pay the $50 cell
phone bill that seems impossible for a
lot of us we start there then they put
that on the back burner you learn okay
this I do it okay I got faith for that I
also have faith for this I also have
faith for that I have faith for this I
can believe God for that you go deeper
and deeper and deeper and then it always
comes back to no matter how deep you go
no matter how much faith you have it is
the same faith that keeps you the same
faith that it took to pay the $50 cell
phone bill it's the same face that it
takes to pay the $5,000 a month mortgage
on a building or believing for that that
bigger job the same faith it took you to
get the job at McDonald's it's gonna be
the same faith it takes you to step out
and start your own company it's faith
this is a faith game the Bible says
without faith it is impossible to please
God God is moved by your faith and by
your trust and that you really believe
in your actions and your confession and
the way you treat people and the way you
respond in the midst of those trials
show that you really believe you believe
God at His Word you believe the things
that God has entrusted to you and at the
end of the day the beautiful work that
God has started with in your spirit he
is faithful and just to finish that work
that he started he's not gonna leave you
an unfinished project we'll get to it
later
no he's faithful and just to complete
that work the callings and giftings of
God or without repentance and the
promises of God are yes in amen it's
gonna happen timing it's up to you and
God you have to learn everything in this
situation
you have to learn everything in this
season that God trying to teach you what
can you learn you gotta find something
got to pull something out of it man
something that's here to teach me if not
you're gonna just be a victim all the
time oh this I'm just getting beat up
you know why is this happening why did
that happen you just gonna be a victim
you got to move from victim to Victoire
and you can do it and you can help other
people it's still hard like it's not
always easy you know what I'm saying you
you have your setbacks you have your
things that you know you have your
triggers but we talk about the triggers
and the triggers are the things that
teach you you triggered for a reason it
may you know it may hurt maybe an open
wound thank you kro links for the super
chat appreciate that my brother thank
you so much but the Bible says all
things work together for the good of
those who love the father all things not
some things all things and when you
believe that you nothing is a setback or
if it is a setback you use it as a
slingshot
David Tracey says I want to bridge the
gap between the living and dead I really
believe that's the the the truth about
what a shot a shaman is able to do able
to kind of go between the realms the
living and the dead but at the end of
the day you know I don't even know if
there is a dead because there you know
I'm saying there's just life and energy
and if they exist
they're still alive they might not exist
in this physical body there is no dead
so there is no contacting the dead at
the end of the day because they're alive
to his spirits let the dead bury the
dead dive in deep once again with my
buddy Chris garner thank you guys for
hanging out with me in the chat man
thank you guys for the support it really
doesn't mean a lot I'm blessed to be
able to do this and I really look
forward to these conversations and
opening up with you guys and just kind
of trying to articulate that the things
that I've got in my spirit and um like I
said I got some new music coming very
soon I do have a concert this weekend if
you're listening the week of I have a
concert November the 2nd in Mobile
Alabama for those of you who would like
to come out and you those of you guys
who would like to meet me and my friends
and my family will be there November the
2nd 7 p.m. at the lacy house in Sims
Alabama which is pretty much Mobile
Alabama it's what we did our album
release party it's gonna be really
low-key real down to earth if you just
want to hang out man and invite you guys
to come down for the weekend it's gonna
be really good so November 2nd true
Seger King James tempest of Eden and J
Caldwell all performing live and
thinking about doing two sets as well
since King James is coming I'm thinking
about doing my set and me and King James
have a plethora of collabs together we
also did a a collab album so we did a
whole album together so and we and we
rarely get to perform together anymore
so uh because I don't do a lot of church
shows anymore but um
yeah if y'all want to come out to be
good I'm gonna do two sets I'm gonna do
a solo set and I'm gonna do a set with
King James at the end so it's gonna be
good Friday November the 2nd yep 5.7
says do you ever come out to SoCal for
concerts I do not have not really done
much out of the south of I don't do a
lot of concerts but if you can find
somebody to book me up there man paid
the expenses and all that kind of stuff
man I'd love to come up there so y'all
can set it up I am open to to travel and
come speak and come to a live podcast
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