The Magic of Chin-Chin | Illusion, Dance, Philosophy, and Imagination
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conversation we're gonna be talking
about magic mystery
see the energy filling me there was no
stopping me the magic of chin chin
welcome to the podcast brother how are
you how are you good stuff man I'm
excited to get it in with you you got
some special stuff for everybody
watching listening that you're gonna do
some magic tricks here in a little bit
we're gonna talk about magic it's not
just stage magic or whatever it's a lot
more for you getting into illusion the
mind all philosophy even like a really
big part of it for you I'm intrigued by
it all so I just want to pick your brain
a little bit and hear your story about
what you bring to the table so I guess
instead of me just reading your
credentials off of your website man just
go ahead and introduce yourself to the
community let people know what you bring
to the table man 60 days sober day yeah
just working hard started magic when I
first saw magic oh when I was young kid
about six I had reconstructive surgery
on the cleft lip a little form of expect
lip and in the hospital during the
healing process they brought a magician
in to entertain the kids so that's
really the first time I felt magic I
came home talking about magic so for my
healing gift my dad got me a bunch of
Thundercats toys and the magic kit and I
kind of gravitated towards the magic kit
and decided to make magic my life dude I
gravitated towards the Thundercats and
you gravitated towards magic good stuff
man
that's what that I wanted to talk to you
about as well because like dealing with
magic and I believe I did what magic
with my music it creates an atmosphere
you control the crowd to be able to take
them on a journey through the mind
through illusion and you're able to tie
in truths and pieces of eternity all
within this place where you spark all in
wonder and what that does for you'd like
just said for you as a kid when you seen
that it's it's it's something that they
they you know I'm saying we'll remember
for the rest of their lives
and maybe change the course of their
life to let them know no matter where
they're coming from whether they're in a
hospital like you were or they're in a
broken home in a situation they know
that magic is real that there's
something greater than themselves out
there talk a little bit about like the
sparking aw and wonder maybe from your
perspective or what it done in your
heart and made you believe in the unseen
or whatever the case is and into what
you're doing now for other people yeah
so with music you know any art form
especially music it's a visceral
reaction right so typically you know
with music you can change moods and
energy and when somebody shares
something moving they can cry viscerally
through music when you're listening to a
good comedian you visually just laugh
and explode into laughter when something
really funny happens with visual arts
too you can invoke different kinds of
emotions just from seeing a good
painting but with magic you're asking
the audience that thing so it's not just
what they see or what they hear or even
what they you know smell or taste it's
it's kind of you're asking them to take
what you're presenting and then also to
think about it so magic I mean
throughout centuries it's the second
oldest profession I don't know if we all
over the first office profession is but
the second oldest profession is magic it
goes back thousands and thousands of
years and I mean nowadays magic is you
know if you go to a movie and you see a
good special effect of movies you know
movies are the special effects movies
came from a magician towards Milly and
he was really the first cinematic
magician who used video effects into
there so magic the magics fans back a
thousands and thousands of years so it's
it's interesting when you ask the
audience use their imagination and I
mean imagine the first time you saw full
moon in your life you know I thought
that's part inside of you you know in in
conjunction to either the world or the
universe it's it's just that
feeling of wonder I think is just a part
of existence or human existence you know
to see something greater than you or to
feel Wonder and awe it it's kind of
almost it goes hand in hand with life
experience that's also man again it's
just able to change somebody's life or
whatever to let them know that you know
that uh you know something greater than
himself exist or whatever the case is I
remember you know I don't remember well
I'll take the bag I remember a lot from
my childhood but one of the memories
that stands out was a time that we went
to the school after hours and seeing a
magician and it had a big big production
going on and I remember he called me out
of the crowd anybody wants to come down
for the next trick you know and you know
did the magic trick and all that kind of
stuff man but I remember that you know
so you're creating memories for for
people and and again just that uh
whether there's the trickster in you or
whatever like there's just many
different ways that you want to that you
can approach it so where do you approach
it like what do you get like what type
of gratitude do you feel by performing
your tricks and stuff is it seeing that
spark of glimmer in people's eyes I'm
sure that has a lot to do with it right
definitely I mean when you perform for
an audience and you look about you say
so you can see that reaction in them you
know it's I for me the easiest place for
me to be on in the world is onstage you
know when I'm out like on the bus or at
a supermarket that's when I feel the
most awkward you know but I don't know
it's just because of that quote-unquote
fourth wall between the stage and the
audience that it's kind of almost like a
voyeuristic relationship but to me you
know being on stage is that it's the
easiest for me and and it's it's I mean
it's it's magic especially I like
performing in a theatrical environment
or I so be kids shows because adults for
some reason because of their experiences
growing up they seem to be a little more
teen you know hey I have this marker
this marker is floating typical reaction
from Adele
sigh you know but kids because they're
still so towards that instant and have
that still childlike sense of wonder
they can actually believe that this
marker is floating you know so you get a
lot out of different types of audiences
performing in senior homes for example
they provide that spectrum or end of
that lifespan
they seem to be more appreciative of
this experience its itself so I mean I
get a lot of I give a lot to the
audience but I get a lot back from them
in return just by their you know
reaction to the article that Christmas
so it's kind of a it's a dance between
me and the audience and it's obviously
grateful for every opportunity I get to
be able to try to inspire wonder
imagination with people and you know um
I mean sometimes magic can come out in
like a deceptive conman II kind of way
and that's not how I approach magic it
should be more of for entertainment
purposes you know it makes me laugh you
know to do the dance number with an
illusion as opposed of hey I'm gonna
cheat you at poker you know like that's
how to image to me you know so magic
should be more on the art end of it
that's awesome I've got some of your
footage here playing while work while
we're speaking laughter the people who
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that's one of the benefits people of
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podcast so that's it that's a good thing
we can talk about so we're talking about
the on creativity and wonder that it
sparked in the hearts and minds of young
people when they see this stuff for the
first time they're just blown away they
go you know they leave in you know say
they remember forever I remember when I
when I would do a lot of concerts and
stuff we would be I would always you
know let somebody sing on the microphone
or let them chant the lyrics or whatever
the cases there was even the time I was
playing in a band and the last song was
like a really heavy song it was really
easy you just had to hear the rhythm of
the drums and bass and played that
rhythm on an open chord and I would
always give my guitar to somebody and
let them play the last riff and like to
see some kid I'll tell hey man play this
dude you got this and they're on stage
playing it's like they're gonna remember
that
ever when it's something that you know
sets them apart like hey I see you out
there you you know you're a part of this
as well
sparking that all creativity and Wonder
in people's lives so we talk about young
people now what's the difference for the
older people because a lot of older
people like you said that pins not
floating there's some older people that
deep down within they know it's not
floating but they want it to be floating
and they're in there they want it to
spark that imagination and that joy
within their heart so what are some of
the reactions of people where you can
see that smile or even see them break
through that hard shell or whatever the
cases with some of the older audience
yeah so I've always approached magic in
kind of way you know like old saying
what would Jesus do right so with magic
I kind of take it an approach like what
would mr. Rogers do so here puppets and
music along with inspirational messages
to inspire children right so I've kind
of taken my show and try to become the
quote-unquote mr. Rogers for adults and
kids you know so a lot of some of my
pieces are message driven with you know
messages of positivity or whatnot so
it's it's again like we said magic
you're also asking the audience to think
so not only are they gonna see a magic
trick and try to figure out how that
happens but putting a message to that
sometimes can really break through to
the audience so you get sometimes even
in the faces of adults with a really
solid magic piece you can almost see
them go back to being five years old in
there I think you know and that that not
to me is the best you know that oh man
that's awesome bro I seen seen in some
of your footage I know you do a lot of
stage magic you me put on like a lot of
production there's music there's lights
there's explosions a lot of really cool
stuff but then I've seen some stuff with
like street magic do you do you do a
little Street magic as well you know
David Blaine was only not really for
that it was really considered close-up
magic about history and I do have a
couple of pieces
you know that I I've worked on but for
me again I excel best on stage in the
theatrical environment but any magician
you know should be able to perform
either a card trick a coin trick you
know our stand-up effect or even a large
illusion so I tried to practice all
areas of magic when I can so a three
magic is definitely an interesting
approach and it's more intimate too
because on stage you can be in front of
what two three thousand people but when
you're in front of a person one-on-one
or you know just group of three people
you can really read that intimacy of
magic down to almost a personal level
with them just because you're in front
of them you're asking them pick a card
or touch the pots themselves so it's a
that's that's definitely a cool genre
you know to do magic yeah man I remember
seeing David Blaine for the first time
and you know being a teenager in that as
far as we can get into this in a little
bit but just like Oh magic is real like
he's really making that card levitate
and there's a lot of people well let's
just talk about it now there's a lot of
people who would see that and be like up
that's a demon helping him do that I've
got friends who swear up and down and
it's almost kind of I'm not a magician
in that sense but I feel like it's a
compliment that you're really good that
you have that you have to be using
another power to be doing your illusions
will time out you know Criss Angel
walking on water we're talking about the
levitations demons help you levitate or
spirits I mean I would see Criss Angel
and think that this man's kind of like
not Criss Angel but more uh Blaine and
say this man's kind of like Jesus he's
doing he's healing people he's I seen
one where he made a but he's like
snapping his fingers and making
butterflies come and land on him and
like talking to random kids and I'm like
I want to be able to do that man you
know thinking that he's like in tune
with nature and he moves beyond the veil
but like a lot of those people even like
Criss Angel before every episode he's
like look this is strictly illusion I'm
gonna kind of kill it for you I'm just
that good that you think that these are
demons and I have spiritual powers and
stuff like that what are you what do you
think about that people thinking and I
always want to you know call the devil
card I mean that's been going on
since the beginning right with magic
exactly and that's really funny because
yeah if you go on YouTube a lot of
research it's always kind of on that
area of diamond diamond you know or or
hey the devil worship but if you think
about it and I'm not please you know
don't send me letters but I'm not trying
to blaspheme anything but if you say
Jesus was theoretically it's traveling
magic show right before he came his
disciples he had a group of disciples go
ahead of him and you know promote right
and say hey he's coming to tell anyone
come down with a message driven a sermon
or a show but at the same time he did
miracles right he turned water into wine
he made bread and fishes appear right
you can heal the sick so it's that's
funny that's that area of magic in the
positive spirituality is very minimal
and that people instantly think because
magic needed met that you're on this
side where it's more demolition and
diminish I mean it's if you think about
it they say that technology you know is
kind of like magic so if you'd set your
iPhone and went back in time to 1600s
and show something of an iPhone you'd be
the devil right oh my God look you just
took a mixture okay I think that's why
today's society is more jaded with magic
because everything is information is so
easily accessible in 0.25 seconds in the
palm of your hands that it I mean if you
think that during the two thousand years
ago with Jesus I'm walking on water or
anything like that maybe it was ahead of
its time right so now because of
technology people do look at magic and
think that is kind of supernatural but
but we see more technology magic every
day around you know so it's it is
interesting that that magic kind of
falls to that side of the spectrum as
opposed of miracles right people right
that's a miracle but as you know people
people would rather see it as Oh demons
are helping them you know that the thing
that you brought that up yeah I
definitely you know especially seeing a
young Saint David Blaine was on the side
of the miracle this man knows what Jesus
knows he could do the same things you
know and then he can win you over I mean
even like in the scriptures you know we
study the Bible and stuff and like do
the scriptures Jesus would perform a
miracle and win them over he'd heal a
lame person and say okay now that I have
your attention like you said now that I
made this card levitate now that I did
this this trick or whatever now you want
to listen to me right so I got your
attention with with these miracles and
stuff it's funny too cuz you even
mentioned if I had an iPhone and took a
picture of you and you brought it back
you know shoot if you brought it back
thirty years it would be crazy right but
you know you know I'm saying 300 years a
hundred years they're being saying you
would definitely be a a warlock or
something to those people but even be
able to take their picture and show it
to him here here's your here's a selfie
look at a selfie here's what we're into
now you know but even back then when
cameras first came out like they liked
people there was a superstition behind
it because they felt like it captured
their souls they didn't want to be they
didn't want to have their face in a in a
photograph because they thought that had
captured their soul man you know and so
that's interesting too that you kind of
made that connection so one thing just
while we're on this vein we're talking
about winning them over for the message
and there's a lot of people in the
Christian realm now that we're seeing
who are faking miracles in there like
there's a lot of crazy stuff out there
there's a we thought we've been talking
about this lately on the podcast given
some examples where like people will
tell you these grandiose stories about
going through the you know jungles of
Mexico to these unreached tribes and a
woman died in front of them and I raised
her from the dead and a woman broke her
arm and I put my hand on it snapped it
back into place and it was healed up and
they would come back with all of these
grandiose stories but really with no
proof but the story in itself like one
people like oh my god just like you said
like you know Jesus has come into town
he's healed many and stuff like that so
I mean we're seeing weird stuff too that
people are bringing feathers and saying
this an angel feather that appeared out
of nowhere there's diamonds and rubies
that are up
and there's a gold dust movement where
gold is like all over people and there's
a lot of stuff where people are like
faking these miracles because it wins
over the crowd and we're talking about
the ethics behind it like is that okay
does it negate dirt the fact that Jesus
really was healing people and you have
seven plants in here and and these
people are sitting in wheelchairs and
they have crutches and they throw them
but their plants when people see that
they're like oh if God did it for them
they could do it for me it creates an
atmosphere for the supernatural and for
miracles to move because it moves off of
your belief right so in in in in the
religious realm would that be in it as
far as magic it happens all the time but
in a religious realm do you think that's
a bad thing or was that kind of a means
to an end well but see that show I was
baptized a Catholic right yeah in grade
school I think six or seventh grade but
throughout my life I've studied Roman
Catholicism Judeo Christianity Buddhism
Hinduism in all aspects of in the
spirituality world there's still that
element of believing in something more
that mystic element you know the
Buddhists the Yogi's or what you know
they always had that sense of belief
that something more was there so though
in the old times oh maybe towards the
end of the 1800s there they had this
trick called the Egyptian base okay and
it was a vase and pretty much they wired
it to be a reverse transistor radio
okay so and this was like you know
before any like you know like I said
cell phones came out and the idea was
people would come to church and they
would have this base on this altar and
this voice would come out and give you
know a blessing or whatnot you know and
it was a magic move a radio in a base
but what a hundred fifty years ago or a
hundred years ago and that was magic to
them so that kind of almost did say hey
there is a higher power and look and
this is happening I think that it's okay
in a spirituality maybe
sermon Church world if it's not to
deceive to get money if it's hey God is
real whatever you may think created this
the Creator right whatever deity
whatever ideas you know uh worship Duke
is making this marker float so believe
and if that kind of I guess approach to
giving a sermon or preaching leads to
planting a seed of Hope in somebody that
hey maybe if I pray hard enough my
cancer will go into remission hey maybe
if I pray hard enough they'll forgive me
hey maybe if I prayed hard enough my mom
wouldn't you know be depressed right I
think that's okay to plant a seed from
something miraculous for miracle is
happening to be message driven is okay
but if it's to deceive people and say
hey look I'm the third coming of Christ
it's gonna be four payments of $39.99
today hey that's a it's a good way to
look at it man it really is I think I'm
with you on that really really cool but
when people find out that they're duped
though they're usually mad you know if
they find out like you know what that
was a ding there was a guy on the other
side of that wall speaking to me through
that vase and there's there's a bunch of
that stuff and you know I'm saying in
the Greek text and it's in the scripture
as well like there was a pool that would
move and and they believe that uh it was
a an angel went into the pool it and
caused it to move and if you got in that
pool when it was moving then you would
be healed and so there's all these
crippled and lame people fighting to get
in it you know but it was like little
parlor tricks and stuff that they would
do I think it's good but when people
find out that they're doomed I'm not
doing but that they've been duped they
feel like you know what this whole thing
was a sham to begin with you know so you
got that going on - especially when it's
money don't you feel a Tami and he got
my money you know I mean
yeah then you're talking about them and
then that's making people feel like they
work on you know yeah an artist coming
through and it's like let's be honest
though there's a snake oil salesman I
mean they're there in every field
they're in the religious field there in
the magician field you know all that
kind of stuff so they're definitely out
there so well I mean you know again
going back is you you know you say you
know magic in minutes it should be used
I think everything in life should have
the proper intention behind it because
if the proper intent is behind any
action then people will know it came
from a loving place you know yeah I mean
he's has gotten mad right and like you
know where as you went into the church
and he's through over the tables because
they were selling posters and bootleg
DVDs you know outside of church and
right like again that's it's it should
be with the proper intent to help people
not for monetary gain yeah definitely
man there's a comment here I'm gonna
read this comment and see what you're
saying I hope that it's not
condescending just trying to make the
the kind of the connection here but uh
Chris garner said let me pull it up I'm
kind of slow with these comments but
essentially he said that we all know
that wrestling is fake but we still
watch it with awe I know I'm like what
do you mean wrestling's fake bro what do
you what do you mean you never seen
somebody get suplexed on their head
that's not you can't fake that bro
getting power bombed into thumbtacks I
mean so even so even that I mean that's
a whole dichotomy to open up to is the
fact that we know it's fake but then
when you go above and beyond like okay I
know I'm just I want to believe but oh
wow I know it's fake but how did you do
that how did you get power bombed into
thumbtacks in and still live how did
that God punch you in your heads busted
oh I mean there's a lot of different
tricks and stuff these things people do
that we're still even though we know
it's fake were like oh poor left mind
blown
in the same way with magic I mean I'm
looking at you know David Blaine
you know coughing up frogs you know and
the fact that he what he had to put his
body through to do that to turn himself
into a human aquarium
so that the frogs could live in his
stomach without any asset and he
literally swallowed them and coughed
them back up and they're okay like even
though we know he's an illusionist
that's pretty crazy that's pretty far
out being underwater for 12 minutes and
all of this far-out stuff that people
are doing getting punched in the stomach
by Kimbo Slice and being okay because if
you brace for the impact at the right
time and there's a lot of stuff people
are pushing the envelopes
even though quote-unquote you say you
know it's fake there's still like that
sense of awe and Wonder especially when
people are pushing the envelope right
yeah so wrestling obviously I mean those
guys they're performers but they're
athletes first you know like I saw the
documentary on Ric Flair you know or
days like these guys put their bodies
through a lot it is fake as you know
like the punches may not be complete
contact but these guys get hurt and it's
funny it's almost like what we would
talk about with magic when you peel back
the curtain see the wizard behind there
it ruins it you know you go to the
movies and obviously Jurassic Park
there's no dying you know like Steven
Spielberg wasn't saying okay mr. t-rex
take five in your trailer you know we
know that that's fake but it's it's
still having that sense of wonder that
kind of keeps people entertained you
know especially even in the wrestling
world it's it's it's almost taking that
entertainment a step further you know
especially in wrestling it's a physical
aspect but it's still amazing when you
see it yeah well if someone you know
seeing that you know I'm saying the man
behind the veil seeing that you think
it's just big great spirit but it's this
little old man communicating with you
through a teleprompter television screen
whatever we were even we had some
friends over this weekend like I said
and we were just watching random stuff
on YouTube and I've we were talking
about the Ninja Turtles and I was a huge
Ninja Turtle fan and for me they were
real like they exist there those guys
were even the cartoons were real but
then I seen the movie you know myoh this
is this is them in the flesh and like
I'm like these are my buddies if I ever
need help I can call on them they're
gonna be there
you know as a little kid having that odd
wonder and then remember watching the
movie being so infatuated with it and
it's like look this is proof these guys
exist then I watch the behind the scenes
and they're talking one of the dudes
takes his head off
takes the mask off and I'm like oh my
god
there's a little man inside of that suit
and it held imagine like how I was
devastated bro man this isn't real I've
been living a lie 6 years old what am I
gonna do with my life you know but it
still I think the most important thing
the most important skill that anyone
should have throughout life and this is
just my opinion I mean you know blue
Maya but it's imagination is the most
important tool that because information
is so readily available that even the
younger generations that it's almost
like imaginations be gone because okay
long gone are the days of a
three-and-a-half-hour Shakespearean play
then we cut it down to what an hour hour
and a half of the Broadway style play
right then we brought it down to a 30
minute sitcom and now we're down to a
minute and 10 seconds on America's Got
Talent
words write everything and YouTube
videos like nobody has attention span
you know it's so I think imagination
keeping that sense of wonder and that
imaginative spirit of anything is
possible is the most important tool
people should have yeah definitely man
innovation imagination like everything
comes out of that there's nothing that
exists that we have created and cartoons
and ideas and podcasts that didn't and
aesthetic that doesn't come out of that
imagination and when I had a friend of
mine he always quoted this and you've
probably heard this is like you know I'm
saying the mind is like a parachute it
only works when it's open but when you
open mine and you're able to kind of you
know we talked about through spiritual
practice through met a manifestation
going into the mind and accessing maybe
even higher states of consciousness the
deeper realms of the mind and the power
that we have to go in and get that
vision for
yourself maybe even to create something
what you have to do to get a game plan
and just to birth it so there's almost
like a form of spiritual alchemy where
you're going in creating something
having this idea and then the road that
it takes to manifest it and bring it to
the table even almost like maybe a
journey with a magic trick we start off
here but there's this place that we have
to go to to manifest it and bring it to
the table right everything starts with
an idea
all right that's see just that idea can
sprout a cure for cancer
right yeah just it can sprout an energy
car mister you know shout out to mr.
musk write an idea you know a simple
idea can turn into anything or it can
die with nothing it's funny Chisholm
there's a Chinese holiday where you go
to your ancestors or your you know your
your family members who passed away and
clean off their graves and whenever I go
through the cemetery I mean the number
one thing that comes to my mind is in
these graves how many good ideas never
ever got worked on or how many dreams
died with these people
you know so it starts with an idea but
behind I didn't used to come action so
it's I mean yeah everything starts with
that you if you go in words and truly
think it let's think of I mean if you
think about right like like you said we
reinvented the internet right we we went
to the moon all right everything starts
with an idea but anything is possible
and I think that's when that's that's
what works best with magic it's just the
idea that really anything is possible
and you can do anything but it starts
with an idea but action needs to be the
second part actions the water for the
scene I guess definitely yeah I mean
that's this scripture says faith without
works is dead you can believe in
something all you want but until you
start confessing and speaking and out
walking - walking walking out you sense
ly birth it into existence and you
create it though Eve even I mean the
very term abracadabra tada
I created as I speak it so there's a lot
of people like in the spiritual
community
the breakdown the essence of that word
that you know I'm saying the Hebrew
magical spell even when I say it's the
power of words it this stuff exists in
here somewhere all of these songs and
these ideas that we've put out the magic
tricks everything beautiful we bring to
the table or everything evil we bring to
the table as well it comes out of the
mind and being able to spark it into
humanity existence that's why I mean we
you know we talk about the scriptures
and stuff it's like the Bible says to
renew your mind make sure you're
thinking about good stuff because
whatever you put in it's gonna come out
garbage in garbage garbage out so
renewing the mind thinking about Laufey
things figuring out ways you can help
people you know the opposite ways you
know you're gonna find out ways you can
hurt people ways to do harm the ways to
piss people off ways that you can win an
argument you know all of that kind of
stuff and you want to kind of stray away
from that stuff and be one who helps
everybody I think magic is definitely
doing that man great I mean look at you
said magic words right so it's kind of
like a sequence of events think it speak
it do it right but I always look at
magic words as again you know I I think
of myself as a spiritual religious
person but the creator himself said let
there be like he spoke the universe into
existence right but whatever that
creator may be for you right it started
with the idea hmm what if I it was
spoken into existence and then action
came so yeah it's a I mean words are
very powerful you know and and that I
think that's where that whole spell idea
or this idea of a magic word comes from
you know yeah yeah spell a being I mean
just getting into the whole etymology of
words I mean when we when you perform a
magic ritual you're performing a write
and we write and proclaim sentences upon
people we write in cursive and when you
you can put a hex on someone you're
putting a curse on someone I mean
there's this uh spell we perform a spell
with our spelling I mean there's so much
that goes in with just the magic behind
writing in the words right all these you
don't take that right and do wrong
I think should be the way you should
look oh we definitely should
we definitely should there's a book by
TD jakes he just came out with it's uh
it's like a he's kind of like an
entrepreneurship book or whatever just
diving into creativity it's called soar
and he really in the book he looks at uh
the Wright brothers in them creating
like the first airplane right you know
this thing didn't exist and people are
saying hey you can't do it what do you
mean you're gonna make this big piece of
metal fly through the air and all this
kind of stuff and they believed in it
they've studied it they and they created
it and so the premise behind this book
he talks about how like God didn't give
us let's look at wood for example God
didn't give us a table
you didn't pray for a table and God you
don't pray for a table and God just
manifests the table you know you don't
pray for a chair and a chair shows up
and all of these things a house and a
house shows up God gives you wood
there's trees that grow he gives you
wood and through the imagination
ingenuity teaches you how to use the
things that are around you to create
that stuff in your life cut down that
tree and make a table cut down that tree
make a chair so you have to actually put
some action behind the faith or go
around just believing God for a table
but praying for a chair usually don't
work that way it's usually stuff that we
already have in our lives that God has
given us that we're supposed to use the
imagination use the mind and manifest it
bring and bring it into our reality
right just to me real magic is looking
at invention I love studying a DaVinci
you know but just in the what last
hundred and fifty years since the
Industrial Revolution far we came and it
all started with an idea like you know
we are building skyscrapers right we
made the internet and the Big Mac secret
sauce right all of that essentially from
imagination idea so a lot of beautiful
things could happen but I mean like you
said earlier you shouldn't take a
Machiavellian approach to things you
know of how to winner I know you could I
again I these are just my my thoughts
but yeah everything
comes from that imagine that simple act
of imagination good stuff man well let's
go ahead and jump into the magic trick
that you have for us man you actually
have something you want to bring to the
table here be awesome for everybody
hanging out with this laughs I will
bring it to the table that you just
prayed for now behind me is a dirty
mattress and this envelope okay uh now
uh Derek this is the first time we're
actually really talking you know we've
been texting back and forth but I
discovered your podcast through the
musician Cayley I a friend of mine
turned me on to his music and you know
he's a very talented person so I asked
shoutout to k-e by the way and I asked
him permission to use just some of his
song titles so Derek we don't we've
never met before this podcast I didn't
ask you any personal information
we didn't set anything up this magic
trick is happening right now at this
moment you have no idea what I'm up to
do correct I'm not a planet
correct okay good I want to get some
information from you Derek
I assume if you have a mother yes what
is your mom's birthday December 13th
December 13th do you know of what year
sorry but your momma black oh my
goodness I barely remember my year I do
not know the year do I need to make one
up and just let it save you
okay 2060 that would be weird yeah let's
go with uh 1956 1956 okay perfect
all right now I Derek we are gonna try
to make this as random as possible I
want you to think of a five digit number
any five digit number what is your five
digit number please let's go with three
six three
five two five three six five two five
cool think of any city in the entire
world any city oh okay
what is that City Houma okay Houma
Louisiana
I tell you ma h o u na yes h o u m ay h
o um a okay we will come back to this in
a couple of seconds we did I did say
Haley let me use some of your song
titles so what I have right here there
is a pack of playing cards okay this
pack of playing cards is in new deck
order but the only difference with this
pack of playing cards is on the back of
these cards uh and we all know that
Kaylie is a brilliant musician she comes
up with like a thousand so I kissed his
chav La Palma bigger than mine yeah so
obviously there are 52 cards in a deck
but I went through his music catalog and
I wrote down right here let me bring it
a little closer to the camera I wrote
down on the cards on the back of each
card one song title okay per card so
this one says hands in the air
we have champion we have boomerang
excellent song boom bap booty clap boom
bat booty clap there we go I got song to
sunshine right so I mean this goes on
cuts in harpoon it's all of his music
right
hold on you know uh heaven right so it's
I am going to take these cards I will
keep the song titles facing you I will
put any rubber band around this okay get
ready to say stop I'm just gonna flip
through the pack like this and you say
stop here we okay stop stop
I am NOT gonna take a look at this but
we're gonna take that card and this is
the song title that you stopped that
briefly right I don't know if you've
heard that song a really cool song Bruce
Lee so we have a whole bunch of
information that we just took we have a
song tile we picked your mom's birthday
right we pick your favorite city in this
envelope is a piece of paper this piece
of paper has been inside of this
envelope since the top of the podcast I
want to show you what is on this piece
of paper but before I show you what's on
the piece of paper I want to show you
what I wrote on this piece of cardboard
okay let me bring this closer on this
piece of cardboard are the answers that
we had yeah it says your mom's birthday
December 13th we just made up the year
1956 your five digit number of five six
five two five favorite city is how do
you say that again oh ma hold on hold on
so again this envelope has been in full
view I will take out the piece of paper
and we will see how we have done with
this piece of paper that I have put some
information in there's a paper clip
and let me back up a little bit is a
pretty fairly large piece of paper this
piece of paper reads I would like to
thank the truth seeker podcast and the
audience Derrick's mom's birthday is
1213 1956 the number she thought of is 3
6 5 2 5 and the city he selected is
Homer I also want to thank Kaylie for
allowing me to use his song title
Derrick picked the song Bruce Lee Wow
love it love it man
great job dude got my mom working yes we
love it I'm trying to figure out how you
did it you know that's the best one of
the you know it's the analytical mind
you know what I'm saying what we want to
know we want to figure everything I
don't know how it's done but dude good
stuff
we've never met before honestly or you
can tell the audience I did not tell you
to pick those numbers I didn't ask for
your mom's birthday right or the song
title but that shows actually that even
if we're strangers
we're actually connected definitely
that's good stuff man I'm gonna go I'm
gonna rewind us and figure it out and
call you back one of the things like so
as far as like and people in the chat
are saying awesome Bravo very impressive
all of that so one thing that really
still intrigues me to this day and maybe
there's a form of it of what we just did
there is mentalism yes that that gets me
the most like that man and I want to ask
you how does it work but I know you
can't okay this is the tricks this is
the trick of the trade let me tell you
on the true seeker pocket but talk to me
little bit about that ma'am um st.
started to gain popularity in the early
1900s right late 1800s that was really
the Golden Age of magic the age of
vaudeville so now we go down to the
corner movies house or the theater to
see a movie right but at the turn of the
century in the vaudeville era they had
theater palaces and you would go right
instead of to see a movie you would go
to the theater to see vaudeville and
they would have jugglers and dancers but
the magician was the main star of the
vaudeville era right there are tons of
magic shows and around that time
mentalism or back then it was also known
as spiritualism was a big big popular
form of magic it's 32 kind of I think in
Europe and London you know there was the
Davenport brothers that used to manifest
spirits right and one guy would tie
himself to a chair right they would put
a curtain around him and newspapers
would start flying around a bell with
jingle and that was a popular form of
magic but spiritualism or mentalism or
you know think of any laundry number and
you know I know that number so Houdini
actually um before he really went into
the whole estates era uh used to go
around the country trying to defraud
spiritualist or Mentalist he would choke
to magic shows or seances right they
have a she was that's you know the way
that's the lady like like Whoopi
Goldberg in ghosts oh I see your husband
and not three times Madame Blavatsky's a
big example who somebody who did it
levansky yeah she would try to disprove
people keep actually in the Bay Area
there's the Winchester Mystery House and
Sarah Winchester you used to have
seances to trying to talk to her husband
passed away right and Houdini actually
showed up to one of them to try to
disprove The Mentalist or spiritualist
so it was a huge movement back then it
is starting to come back now I guess in
entertainment there's a I've definitely
sees some brilliant brilliant brilliant
performances where you know somebody
would go out into a person in the
audience and have them
or what you know take out any dollar
bill in your pocket and you would know
the serial number for example you know
so I mean that that's definitely a
really good form of magic but again it's
it's even goes back to the whole psychic
right the psychic idea YUM yes big
that's why I'm into it man it's like
hold on they're using ESP I got
believing all that right I believe in
the supernatural and those abilities are
stuff right you know maybe maybe it's
because you know I've been duped and I
still believe and many people have given
up hope and oh they're not real
well maybe you went to a psychic or a
healer who wasn't that great you know
what I'm saying they they really didn't
do a good job one of the thing let me
ask you about this because it's kind of
in that same vein of you I'm saying
spiritualist and spiritualism back then
really big madame blavatsky was the name
that I mentioned I've got some of her
books dating back to like the 1800s even
really big into philosophy she she mix
for her philosophy in with the
spirituality and stuff so you see
something that you don't see anymore
you're saying some of this is coming
back but something that was interesting
we're just like we've talked about
faking the miracles and faking the kids
under the house knocking on the house
three times or whatever saying it's the
ghost of the departed or whatever
Blavatsky got exposed at the end for
having trapped
she'd have letters fall out of in you
know the sky and stuff like that and you
know she had all that stuff set up and
she made a lot of money off of it right
but it was all it was all you know that
was part of her show but what about the
ectoplasmer during the seances like
people would be covered with green jelly
and this pulling it out of their mouths
and all over and stuff like that you
don't see that anymore I don't know that
there's mediums and stuff we're going
around as my half of the mouth I would
send them to the nearest emergency rooms
and it's not like an everyday booth you
know I've never experienced ectoplasm
now but this fear I've experienced as
images I've seen I've studied magic
literally yeah since
most of my life is spent I mean I've
also studied music and lighting design
earth but magic is what I've really
studied and a funny story and you
actually uh yesterday prepping for this
interview we talked about if I ever had
any kind of paranormal stories yeah so
as a magician it's hard for me to be
kind of completely awestruck and amazed
uh this is a real story so my father
passed away January 2018 and they say
that after a person passes right under
the Buddhist or the candle he gives
about forty days before they pass off
they kind of had 48 so the weirdest
thing happened I was living in Walnut
Creek at the time I would find myself
inside of the place I was living I went
to take a shower I got up out of bed
those nothing on the bed I swear on
everything when to take a shower and
when I came out on the bed on my pillow
was my dad's favorite candy and my
headset for my iPhone headset on the
pillow because he was the type of person
who would come in just make sure you're
okay before I as a kid before he and he
was just kind of putting his things for
the next day so you'd be trapped you
would preppy right and that wasn't there
I swear that was not there I got up went
to take a shower I came back and his
favorite candy and my headphones were on
the pillow like and I'm not crazy you
know another another thing that uh
around that same times you I stepped out
of another day I was taking a shower I
stepped out of the shower after you know
hot shower there's steam in the air but
among the steam it looked like almost
neon blue cigarette smoke and it was
this wavy smoke that was kind of going
back and forth and I kind of blew the
steam away that kind of went away and
this thing was still there and it kind
of just stayed out it's nothing so you
know I mean I was completely amazed and
I think that's that there is something
there you know there is something there
that is of course are a lot of fraud you
know
I mean I don't know if Sylvia Browne was
a fraud but you know you have those type
owner holes but I think there is
something more that people sometimes can
tune into you know because we're so
stuck on our everyday life of all I got
to pay the bills I gotta go pick kids or
what am i doing for dinner that we don't
really take this time to stop and smell
the flowers you know we're just world or
this universe is filled with actual
magic mm-hmm yeah and it pulls you back
into the moment living in the moment
when you see something like that you're
not living off of the back of yesterday
successes you're not just caught up in
your memories about how life was or how
life is going to be once I get that job
once I get that girlfriend once I get
that you're just in the moment and this
is the only moment that we have and so
magic and music has a way to making you
feel alive right same thing was walking
through nature the weird thing is you
know we said we don't stop and smell
them you don't really appreciate them
until they're gone so that's why it's
like staying in that moment making
yourself be mindful and I always talk
about how I remember like when I was
driving a truck for a living and I'd
have to drive you know five hours in one
direction and three hours this way five
hours that way and I was I felt like I
was in a cage and I would just drive
through the countryside and look at
these green you know fields and flowers
and stuff and I'm like man I wish I
could just go lay in that field and
that's because I'm in this place doing
something I don't want because I can't
stop and go lay in the field because of
GPS and we got a you know timing itself
but because you can't you look at any
like man I want to do that and usually
it's just about being mindful and just
being in the moment and just even being
present and just taking that scenery in
versus like well I got to get to my next
destination and fighting this crazy
traffic or whatever but being in a
moment in Magic has a beautiful way of
doing that well here's a whole reason
for you and anyone listening or watching
today tonight when the Sun Goes Down
stop just stop what are we doing I mean
unless you know you're a firefighter or
something all right buddy if you have if
you can't sit at tonight's Sun side just
stop and look at the sunset right when
the sun goes down just stop and
up at a star you know like people are so
jaded nowadays and we're so in our
phones everyday yeah just up for a
second take a breath and appreciate
what's around you so that's the magic
and like you said right they paved
paradise to put up a parking lot right
if it's gone we mean that's when you
miss it the most so yeah I mean this
this moment is all we have like you said
yeah that's a great example to me in
stargazing stargazing
unlocked wonders for me bro it really
did of just being in the moment of like
oh I'm gazing into eternity
I'm looking into heaven and then there's
like you know we get into the
supernatural we get into the paranormal
and the biblical text and we see lights
that are moving and stopping or UFOs who
are they where are they from you know
and it just opens up a whole all of
these cans of worms or whatever but just
that getting lost in awe and wonder of
just gazing into the heavens man it's a
magical moment and so that that really
changed my life of just the practice of
stargazing and really not just a few
minutes I would spend hours just gazing
at the Stars and communing with God and
things and so they're very powerful to
do that it you know if you're walking by
and you see a flower just stop yeah it's
flower you know it's it's magic every
second around us yeah it's about being
mindful being in the moment whatever
that moment is you know and just
appreciate everything that you're going
through for the good and the bad right
we go through the bad stuff when we want
to just be zapped out of and being
something a little bit more comfortable
or whatever the case is but just
appreciating this journey so that you
know those those those dark places you
know I'm saying make us appreciate the
light you know congratulations on on
being would you say 60 days sober
congratulations on that and heck yeah
like you have you have a contrast you
know what that other side looks like and
whatnot yy-you don't drink and it's like
other people drinking to be sociable or
whatever it is and you can say no
there's a reason I don't because I have
a contrast that you guys probably have
never seen never seen what it looks like
and so the contrast is beautiful and so
that's how we get to judge things in
life without the darkness there would be
no light
don't have anything to judge and against
going back to your story and a magic and
stuff man who were some of your favorite
influences I mentioned you know David
Blaine uh these you know all he's our
generation he's you know yeah you guys
would probably look at someone a lot
older who's not just like a you know
somebody doing it right now I'm 35 years
young the people that influenced me the
most in my life Michael Jackson gave my
hopper feel important ran huh shallow
right but if you looked at my show it's
really bright for Michael Jackson
Copperfield a lot of stuff is dance
based I mean I've also said you know a
great comedians too you know because for
a while I got into this mode where I
wanted to make every single magic trick
I did message Crippen message message
message but that again like you said
there's no contrast right so in a show
you should have highs and lows so you
know it's good to start with a
fast-paced dance number and then you
want to go into kind of a spoken word
magic trick and then you want to make
the audience laugh as hard as you can so
you do comedy you know so it's good to
go up and down you know uh through your
show but I would say those especially uh
the perform aspect is Michael Jackson
Copperfield were really the people I
studied the most out of you know I I
mean I used to fall asleep playing David
Copperfield's TV special or you know
Michael Jackson with Motown Billie Jean
performance over and over and just fall
asleep there because that's that's
really who influenced me the most as a
performer but I've also take a lot of
inspiration from Salvador Dali MC Escher
more visual art music has influenced me
a lot to the producers I've listened to
the most is timbal in a dark child
obviously anything by Michael Jackson
and The Crystal Method so it's and
there's a lot of people have left there
prince in the sands of my artistry yeah
very eclectic I'm the same way
the seeing in these people who know how
to tap into that Magic Man
how to you know go into the ethers and
bring that stuff out people who create
storylines and that stuff that are
magical that just pull you in you know
all of that stuff people people are
doing and I find that those are the
people who are very successful the ones
who were really dealing like that and
and like again I don't think it has
anything to do with making a pact with
the devil or whatever the case is or you
know making those type of you know cuz
if one day somebody walks up to me and
say yeah you can have it all but I don't
know what I would do ya get it now but
lose lose it in eternity well you know
what profit is there for a man to gain
the world but lose his soul so don't
fall for it good so as far as like the
philosophy end of your performances is
that really the message and stuff that
you try to put in there is that where
that comes from
yeah to a story in 2007 may 20 2007 huh
was the first time is somewhere in my
videos you'll see the logo right I used
to have bright red hair yeah yeah all
those but the Chinese character in my
logo is my last name chin so um that's
the you know the actual the characters
for my last name and we I was performing
at the Asian Heritage Street celebration
in San Francisco in the Sunset District
and that's the first time I had my logo
my grandmother right when I was younger
used to come to all of my public ships
right and I invited her on stage to give
her t-shirt and weird rude stories I she
actually passed away um like the time I
went on stage like like maybe an hour
before I hit the stage she passed though
she didn't make it to the show at that
moment I decided to maybe take an
artistic approach of putting a message
and a story of being a kid where I have
my Grandpere
remembering how my grandma used to cook
and it's a whole effect about you know
turning up a newspaper and talking about
like you know the the hate that you see
in the newspaper right and eventually
you know show the other side of love so
that was really the first time around
2007 when I started performing that but
I got into again this habit of trying to
make everything very message driven and
that routine is more spilt inward and
it's more poetic I had the opportunity
to speak with a teller from Penn &
Teller as I was working a straitjacket
effect where I was going to recreate
Houdini straightjacket but I combined it
with a card trick
and I want to put you on blast teller
because I'm forever grateful but he gave
me the idea to talk about how where the
straitjacket came from right how in the
early days that was how they restrain
people with you know in a crazy moment
but nowadays he said that we don't use
straitjackets anymore we use drugs all
right so now it's almost that that
little pill is a straightjacket for your
mind so I created this whole about
mental illness as well with this and I
performed it five times and at two
separate occasions people complain to
the promoter or their or the director of
the show that they were offended because
I said mental illness yeah you know I
had to restructure that so I had a bad
habit for a while where I wanted to make
everything message driven but again it's
just my opinion you know these are just
thoughts that come around in my mind but
if if if you are fortunate enough to be
on stage behind a mic behind a camera
for an audience
it's almost again that's my opinion
that maybe we should have that
responsibility it should be a
responsibility to at least put a message
out there right because most of the
material that you see is about violence
or death or war right any public figure
that should be out there you know should
take that time to speak what's on their
mind
even if you just move one person your
jobs done so I think again message in
magic is kind of the approach I policy
dude beautiful stuff man
is there anything that you wanted to
cover that we didn't talk about uh we
talked about a lot good job I like it I
love it pretty my good stuff man dude I
appreciate what you do man thank you for
reaching out to me your your magics your
magic performances your shows a lot of
it's available to be seen on on YouTube
tell people where they can go if they
want to book you you do personal gigs
you'll travel let people know where they
can go to find out more about your work
and what you bring to the table man
and I think you should do something as
well with that whole straitjacket the
peel is the new straitjacket even if
it's some kind of PSA or something
online definitely that's a great idea
and you got it from one of the best too
so yeah man yeah go ahead and plug your
stuff bro and let people know where they
got it magic for any event I mean shins
edgy calm that's chin chin magic calm
you can buy all my information that all
my social media is there my phone
numbers there hit him up ladies and
gentlemen he's good people
chin chin thank you for coming on the
true seeker podcast man really enjoyed
it we'll have to do it again
hey thank you very very much for this
opportunity how much love I brother
peace I am chin chin ladies and
gentlemen chin chin
good stuff I enjoyed it wow really
really uh really deep brother so it's
cool we can have people from all walks
of life on here magician the first
magician that I've had and I performed a
magic trick really cool some of you
saying I know how he did I know how we
do it
are we all saying we know how we did it
you got to find this stuff that you
don't know like that's where that's
where the magic is hidden in the unknown
in the realms unseen you know I got a
look I say I'm lost within the mystery
when I'm found within simplicity right
we're lost in the inner realms of unseen
of just like how did he do it
where
that exists again going back to the
beginning looking at Jesus creating
miracles to blow people's mind could
they believe they believed it
they believed in they've they've seen
the testimony I've seen a story somebody
who like literally was paralyzed now
they're walking around shooting
basketball what people do when you just
pair don't you work you're paralyzed
yeah man Jesus came to town changed
everything you know and you hear these
stories and these grandiose ideas or
whatever the case is and it births
something within you the all on
creativity that is uh imparted to you
through a beautiful song I mean making
you feel emotions right making you feel
alive we just want to feel something man
a good movie we'll do it again a good
magic show
good music the movie is the big one for
me like I'm I really like the horror
genre not just a horror though not just
the scary movie I like a movie that it's
like a thriller a movie that's gonna
take you on a rollercoaster ride and so
I'm really into the work of M night
Shyamalan I mean all of his movies that
have this twist like you're watching one
movie right for an hour one thing
happens and it undoes that whole hour
and now you're trying to wrap your head
around what you were watching in night
Shyamalan Jordan Peele with get out and
us like those movies I love them and
then they have a way of incorporating
this rollercoaster where you're laughing
and then you're crying and then you're
scared and then you feel socially
awkward because of the message is deep
but then they bring it home with a with
a laugh and a little punch in the
stomach like experiencing all that to be
able to do that through a movie to be
able to do that through our magic show
whatever book a good book I'll try to do
that with my music take you on this
rollercoaster ride into eternity
touching the veil of the divine I'm
talking about the sensations this is
what I felt this is what I saw this is
what is available to you and seeing how
that light creates portals or ripping
time where people are able to travel and
have their own encounters as well why
simply because they believe it and then
it births something within them that's
possible for them I get testimonies a
message
every day from people who listen to my
music and they're like and everybody
approaches it from a different place or
you're a really good rapper but I really
like your style other people man you
helped me get to a really hard time in
my life I've started having
synchronicities listening to your music
I have my faith my faith is back in
Christ listening to your podcast you
know all of this different stuff that
we're getting and it just has something
to for each person something to impart
that's magic man creating something that
doesn't exist I want to play this clip
here so this is a segment I'm gonna play
my music video and this is a because we
mentioned Kaylee right
Chinchin found my podcast by looking up
Kaylee stuff on YouTube and if you look
up Kaylee you're gonna find my podcast
if you type his name on Google because
of the magic of SEO search engine
optimization you're gonna find me you're
gonna find my interview that I did with
Kaylee one of the top results I pride
myself in my SEO magic yeah so chin chin
looking up his stuff typed in Kaylee he
found true seeker he's on my podcast it
all works out
Kaylee was on a show called pitch or
ditch music reviews and people were
sending in music videos and things like
that and trying to get their reaction to
it sing Kaylee he was live so I sent to
my music video to the producer and then
they they played it live on air and
Kaylee did a reaction to my music video
I'm gonna play that I'm gonna let you
know sue me a lot of cursing they curse
a lot so if you have kids listening if
you don't want to hear a bunch of
cursing I'm warning you now go ahead and
we'll see you on the next episode but I
want to go ahead and play this for
everybody listening and watching and uh
you know I think it's relevant since
we've been talking about Kaylee I mean
his the magic trick he used Kaylee song
titles for the magic trick so that was
really interesting too the fact that he
went through on all those cards in road
that's the title that's a lot of work
shoutout to Tenten but imma go ahead and
play this guy so let's see
so I'm gonna react to Kaylee and this
other guy Candyman
with Bob Sanford Sanford reacting to my
music video and yeah the funny thing was
you'll hear it here they were asked they
were talking about me it's like yeah I
think I've seen that guy's podcast
before let's see so anyway it's going to
be some cursing so if you don't want to
hear that into now now so let's see
James's yeah I'm see if I can find the
right spot here we go ladies and
gentlemen let's see if I can find the
rice boy you used to take donations for
the school somebody actually had our
school shut down because a local civic
group got together and found that
dollars worth of equipment any point in
time Kandi's head will get cut off or
some kind of crap do we have next
um dere is another up it's another uh
his name is Derrick gross person that
Janet gross nope Derrick Derrick grows
out towards the bottom Derrick gross
perk something like that
well you better know he's paying to get
up here yeah though hey guys that's my
boy truth seeker
okay just so you know guys we got our
the money that we used to use for we
used to take donations for the school
somebody actually had our school shut
down because a local civic group got
together and found out that one of our
visitors was an absolute drunk and
threatened to kill people through the
internet and so we lost all of our kids
and we're trying to sort out how to do
it again now so all of our donations are
going to a church and the Humane Society
now until we can sort this out but we
are trying to get it sorted out for we
do so we do appreciate what you guys are
doing for us
we love every last one of you but we
will get this thing sorted out so we do
appreciate what you're doing for us okay
so which which one you guys scroll
scroll up now talking well I'm looking
for a Derrick oh my god oh yeah he's got
over 10,000 subscribers in real - yeah
well Derek I love you got it he's got a
podcast that's really poppin man he
talks about the supernatural and stuff
like that relationship yeah he talks
about all types of stuff I've been on
his show before Derek yeah he's my homie
yeah Derek Derek did you use a different
name all right sure see cuz when he goes
by truth seeker seek a secret you know I
might have actually watched a show
before
yeah I watched a father's home and
people are like what the hell is pretty
cool there he is right there right here
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good people's man and his musics amazing
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he doesn't do anything but quality stuff
so does I haven't heard the song so I
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under the Reverend Thomas - Thomas I've
known him a long time we've been making
businesses 2005 damn medicated I was
like a beta psilocybin and my boy now si
let's step into the alright the Irish
are sound like a diamond give a shape to
the blamming
now going into wisdom of on the road to
discover be the truth that I'm flying
down I will go wherever he happens I'm
y'all share this lab right now looking
kinda I just butter fool see the chain
Sam I walk in my life never get lost in
the ether will speak of mystery someone
gonna dream on when I'm out there to
read am ia child like you wanna take it
to another level the weight of the
hallway to get the tiny feathers hidden
mother's never really a dull brown light
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job bro look at Kenna
I saw lamb in the background there was a
famous case where a woman who claims she
was in contact with UFOs taught a tylium
dying bit see how daddy made same group
of saucers and he was demonstrating this
ability for a group of his superiors in
a room in the Pentagon and he asked for
a demonstration she was I love the [Â __Â ]
out of that writing and they said go to
the window and look now they all went to
the window and looked out and there was
a brilliant golden disc of light
cruising past the Pentagon and they went
research called the nearby air force
base to see what was on the Scopes a
purpose done out in this sector its
entrance at OSHA to tie it in my point
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that I was getting on this Ouija board
were signed AFF about Tikas Ellis Loew
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listen to the man yeah so I thought that
was appropriate you know we had a chin
chin on who heard about my stuff through
Kaylee and they just recently reacted to
the video I sent a little donation in
for them to play us so yeah
Kaylee is a good dude man good friend
like he said me and that guy we've been
working on music since 2005 I don't know
how many we may only have one song
together I think I think we only have
one song but um good dude for real he's
taking a different turn he started out
doing gospel rap like myself and now
he's doing this thing for those of you
who were listening on the podcast and
you guys just got to hear the audio the
visual side is the funniest side because
Kaylee has like this height man who is a
I don't know how old he is he looks like
he's probably 65 or something I don't
know
56 I don't know how Diaz just like I
don't know how her my mom is right he's
dancing in the background doing all
these little weird dance moves and in he
they get they go live on on Facebook and
YouTube and they get a man thousand
fifteen hundred people watching tonight
they reach over 10,000 people every time
they go live and put on a pretty funny
show a lot of fighting haters and trolls
and all that stuff but the old man's in
the background dancing all funny they
got t-shirts with him on it
like that is pretty pretty funny so if
you didn't you didn't get to experience
that if you're just listening on the
podcast in but it is on the video so go
check that out
yeah good people let's see I want to
talk about - I'm wearing a shirt right
now if you can see it I know it was
backward for everybody watching on video
I know there's a way I can flip it but
I'm not going to anyway it says I still
believe in theatres 3 2020 so next year
we were me and my family were extras in
a movie yesterday and I think we got a
little screen time we were just in a
crowd right but we were where they were
filming so we're probably going to be in
the movie we went and seen when we were
in the crowd for the movie I still
believe which is the story of Jeremy
camp the Christian singer
Jeremy camp they're doing like an
autobiography about his life and a
biopic I guess that's what you call him
and they were had they had a big concert
scene it took a mic man like five hours
or something to shoot that like probably
three minutes worth the movie it's kind
of crazy but we were in it we're
probably gonna be in the movie I'll let
you know I'll probably show it on here
if we do make it but me my wife my
daughter and her friend we're down there
doing that really cool cuz we got to
meet we didn't get to meet him but I
seen we got to see them we didn't meet
nobody on you know but uh KJ app' is the
guy playing Jeremy camp and he's Archie
from Riverdale and he's a heartthrob
he's like a teenybopper heart to have
all the girls love him and there was
just so many I was trying to look at the
crowd was like are these Jeremy Kemp
fence or KJ fans Kasyapa fans and most
of them I think we're Kasyapa fans
coming to be in the movie it was really
really cool to be there a part of that
process and stuff dude is kind of a big
deal so it's kind of a big name right
now playing that that role a couple
other actors were there too of musicians
we've seen our Gary Sinise was there he
come out and and
he was like showed up to I guess give
you know let the KJ know that he had his
back and think he was in mobile cuz he
uh Gary Sinise does a lot of stuff with
the military you know after he played um
Lieutenant Dan in Forrest Gump so
actually the weird thing is I mean he's
known for that role he plays in so much
other stuff but he's really known for
that and so he does a lot of stuff for
the military and injured vets and stuff
like that so he has a big foundation
where he takes care of those people and
goes out and meets them and all that
kind of stuff so yesterday being
Memorial Day I'm pretty sure that he was
down here in Alabama doing the we have a
big battleship down here that is kind of
what they do a big thing down there so
I'm pretty sure he was down there
speaking but he was there and then as we
were leaving and I should have got a
picture with this guy but as we were
leaving we walked past Steven Curtis
Chapman he was there which is a another
Christian artist as well and um should I
got a picture with him I didn't but it
was cool to see him
yeah his musics he got really good music
actually there's kind of special to me
because like when my daughter was born
his music was just playing in my head
some of his lyrics so that's one thing
I'll always remember about his music
like when I see my daughter for the
first time his music from the song
speechless was playing so real beautiful
it was cool to see those people and be a
part of that whole process yes oh man we
had a crazy weekend again all of our
friends drove in town those who can make
it summer coming even this week are
already down shoutout to quantum and her
gang coming in town but yeah Chris
Garner and his wife Jill his family got
to hang out at the beach I mean our
whole tribe was there man we had a
Kristin Nicole bars showed up at the
beach we had a whole bunch of people out
our prayer meeting man people who were
just showing up hungry for God and that
was beautiful we all needed it I
probably needed it more than anybody
just being able to you know we do
Wednesday night prayer we pray for
people all the time but just there's
nothing like getting there with the
people and then people that we've been
praying with in our discs or communities
and over the phone and stuff like that
but being able to pray to get
and really seek God together it was a
beautiful experience and I'm pretty sure
we're all gonna remember that forever we
partook of communion had a lot of people
I got some pictures in just a little
video if anybody wants to check that out
it's on my Instagram and Facebook but I
posted a little video and pictures and
stuff but uh check that out but yeah man
building with the tribe Ali and Kenny
and her people Mindy my brother Phil
Danny I mean dude it was just good
we made memories and we're gonna keep
doing it we're gonna continue to make
memories that's what we do man so much
going on working on so much right now
check out our discord check out the
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let's see reading in the comment section
here I've seen your comments shout out
to everybody garner says if I told about
the blessing from this weekend I feel
like I'm bragging go ahead man you can
brag brag on God it's good to meet
everybody man and we got to have ice
cream with the garner family as they
were on their way out yesterday too so
it's really cool you should find your
community find your tribe they're
beautiful people they're waiting on you
all of creation is waiting as the
earnest expectation for the
manifestation of the sons of God you're
not alone definitely not alone find your
tribe people with that I must say peace
and Shalom really good episode Iran
enjoy talking to chin chin good dude so
peace we'll do it again very soon shut
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