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Mark Coleman | Mindfulness | From Suffering to Peace
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we're talking to Mark Coleman his book
from suffering to peace the true promise
of mindfulness here's the book here um
Mark Coleman welcome to the podcast bro
how are you good thank you nice to have
be on your
show from suffering to peace the true
promise of mindfulness I like the word
promise the promise of mindfulness let's
let's start there what what what does
that mean just in the title of the book
itself the promise of mindfulness what
does that mean to you yeah well really
what that means is is the potential
right so um mindfulness practice is the
reason I wrote the book uh from
suffering to Pieces as you know
mindfulness has become pretty popular
these days it's popular in healthare and
psychology and business and education
and government and you name it some some
facet of society studying and advocating
the media is touting it and um there's
also a lot of I would say false promises
or hype about it and
um in that it's it's it's presented as
uh you know a Panacea you know for all
ills and um in my experience you know
it's it's a practice that that one
cultivates and trains and and develops
uh helps grow awareness and helps you
understand your experience helps you
understand how you suffer and inevitably
helps you or ultimately helps you find
Clarity peace well-being
Freedom um so that's the true potential
is uh when practice and cultivated it
within the right context and intention
um it's a profound liberating tool
technique
practice um and uh you know it's it
don't that happens when we when we put
the work in right so um you know there's
there's a often in the culture a look
for the quick fix and uh find the easy
path and um I would say
this is uh like any deep good spiritual
work it's also work um but it's
beautiful work in that it create in it's
the doorway to a lot of understanding
and uh well-being and
peace so you said there's a lot of hype
behind it um it's definitely a buzzword
there's other words that kind of go
along with it um but for someone who is
new to this someone who has never uh
heard the word before they don't know
what it means they don't know about the
hype what how would you explain that to
somebody for the first time yeah well um
mindfulness basically is clear awareness
it's the ability to know what's
happening as it's happening so right now
if you're listening your listeners are
listening in to what we're talking about
that it you you paying attention to what
we're saying is mindfulness you being
aware of say how your body's feeling in
this moment is being mindful you
tracking that you're H hungry or tired
or bored or excited is mindfulness so
mindfulness is is simply uh the
awareness or
attention uh that we direct to our
experience so um you know a bird flies
by you hear the bird song Someone toots
the horn outside your house that simple
knowing is mindfulness and then you
might say well you might you listen as
my say well what's the big deal like I'm
you know pay attention I hear the dog
barking I hear my belly when it's hungry
like so what um but the so mindfulness
is both a quality of of attention but
it's also a practice a training and as
we all know um our minds and our
attention are not quite uh maybe how we
like them to be you know if you if
anybody who meditates anybody tries to
focus will quickly find out after a few
seconds the the mind wanders the
attention gets pulled into thoughts
worries plans dramas you know lost in in
the past worrying about the future or
swirling in judgments and so the reason
why mindfulness is helpful is because
it's also a set of uh tools and
trainings to really cultivate and train
the mind to be become profoundly aware
and clear and and with that Clarity uh
we velop some understanding and
insight so it's simple and it has and
has sort of infinite potential and depth
so it's deep it's infinite but it's
practical at the same time so um and
accessible so mindfulness isn't
meditation but you can become mindful by
the practice of meditation is that
correct exactly right so mindfulness is
a quality of mind and there are many
kinds of mindfulness
meditations uh whether that's simply
attending to your breath or mindful
walking or all kinds of different ways
to practice mindfulness in a formal
meditation and then there's all kinds of
ways to practice me mindfulness in
informal way like every day you walk the
dog say or every day you cook your food
for the kids or every day you clean your
teeth you can either be present to that
activity or you can be spaced out
checked out thinking about something
else which is what we do most of the
time the recent signed uh research study
uh showed that we're not present to what
we're doing about 50% of the day so half
the time we're basically spaced out
somewhere else which means we miss life
goes by right we are you know living in
the Kingdom of Heaven but we don't
notice it because we're worrying about
our next rent check or we're worried
about you know our kids and well some
relationship problem and so we miss the
beauty of uh life as it goes by
so I know in some Indian traditions you
hear um like I when when they say I see
you right it's like I can see you with
my eyes and you're talking about yeah we
hear the birds yeah we hear them but we
don't really we're not really listening
to their song and in the Indian
tradition I see you but to see you is to
really honor you listen to you where you
are um you know in we talk about the
scriptures as well it's talking about
knowing someone yeah yeah man I know
that guy but to really know someone like
on intimate level um there's different
levels of of seeing and hearing or or
like I said listening to the birds again
it's a practice to uh whatever is coming
into your reality to honor it and to to
just give it the attention and maybe
even ask why is it here why is this
person in my life um and and that type
of of of mindset of becoming mindfulness
we talked about before we went live just
this the State of Consciousness where
you get to see the beauty in all things
and maybe nothing's by coincidence and
you just honor everything that's in in
your life um it it could it could be
very profound very deep for a lot of
people for you um was was there any like
Spiritual Awakening or something you had
to you know come to the end of yourself
before you found this practice and and
found how beneficial it was for your
life like how did you get into this yeah
so um I was brought up in England uh in
in northern England and
uh you know as a young man I was at
College in London and was very unhappy
was uh had you know I'd say I was
somewhat depressed a lot of anger a lot
of rage against the system and a lot of
the Injustice that I saw around me and
um was you know was busy uh blaming and
judging everybody else for me feeling
miserable including government and
society and business and um but I was
also pretty harsh on myself and I was
unhappy I was miserable and I was knew
that there was something more to life
than than feeling the miserable State I
was in and started looking and I you
know I was raised Catholic but I wasn't
finding the answers in that organized
tradition I looked at cabala and
different spiritual practices and I
eventually somewhat accidentally
stumbled on a u Buddhist Meditation
Center and a and they were offering uh
meditations on mindfulness and uh love
and
kindness and as soon as I started
practicing those it was really obvious
like oh this is this is a way to
understand my mind and to see how I'm
creating so much of my own stress and
angst and suffering by my thoughts
worries judgments fears
projections um and and habitual reactive
States so it just it made a lot of sense
to me I dropped out of college I moved
into a um a meditation center and and
that was in the 80s when meditation and
mindfulness was certainly kind of
obscure and considered
weird if not cultish and um you know I
ended up going to India studied with
various teachers there and then
eventually to the states more different
teachers here and then settle down in
the Bay Area in San Francisco
and um you know and people might ask
well why did I do that why did I devote
my life to that and I'd say because it
was there only that made sense to me um
and I wanted to really find a way to
find peace and happiness in myself and
in the world and then of course
eventually I uh not of course but I was
asked to start teaching and sharing
those
practices and um and that was a joy to
you know to really share the the things
that have been so helpful for me and so
that I started teaching about 20 years
ago in in California and in Europe and
then I've been teaching ever
since wow so um you experienced that
through meditation is that like the kind
of like the Gateway into mindfulness was
was through this this powerful Zen u
meditation yeah yeah so yeah primarily
it was through meditation growing on
meditation retreats
um you know and then Lear you know as
you as you cultivate the quality of
mindfulness you learn how to bring it
into your life you bring it into
relationships into communication into
the way you work into the way you move
in the world and so it becomes more like
a way of life in the same way that you
know if you
develop tribe love or kindness in
meditation that becomes and expressing
yourself in the world so that that same
is true with mindfulness
that's awesome so um as far as it being
a you know as I want to pick your brain
a little bit too because you're talking
about like some people teach it wrong
there's a lot of hype behind it maybe
there's levels to it as well as far as
like meditation is concerned um is it a
spiritual practice is it a just a
mindful of let me just you know what I'm
saying let me get a game plan let me
figure out what I'm going to do with my
life what I'm going to do with my day
let me plan I mean whenever we spend
time in meditation that's it's an
awesome way to do that take a few
minutes take that deep breath focus on
your breathing be in the moment make
sure that you're present like all that
kind of comes with it but what about
like some of the deeper states of I know
people talk about uh communicating with
higher beings you know maybe their
ancestors that came before them was
there any of that stuff going on in the
in the places that you were studying at
or is it just really about being Mindful
and about you know being the best
version of yourself that you can be or
have the spiritual connection there like
that like kind of all the woooo crazy
stuff that really you know gets people
they can travel to outer space astral
travel visiting foreign lands and stuff
like that right yeah yeah well um so I
studied within the Buddhist tradition
and um you know for some people uh
Buddhism is Ru so some people it's not
and I mean if you know it from the
inside um for the most part Buddhism is
a very uh
uh profound accessible it's very
pragmatic
practical uh way of living and um and
it's less interested in metaphysical
reality than in um the reality of what
you can know directly with your own
experience um so um uh I would say it's
uh it's really grounded in in experience
and what you can know directly for
yourself and so
um that practice starts with the body
starts with paying attention to the body
and um there's a phrase from the Buddha
where he says um everything you need to
know in this universe can be understood
within this fathom long body as in the
whole of reality plays itself out within
the body and the body is a vehicle it's
a temple if you treat it as one and um
uh so we can develop the the the the
thrust of mindfulness is really
understanding reality understanding the
way things are and when we don't live in
alignment with with reality the way
things are we suffer and so some of the
simple truths that we can uh disc not
discover but really understand more
deeply are just principles of the way
the universe works and so the most
obvious one is things change things are
impermanent things are transient and
because of that
any any anything is incapable of
providing lasting satisfaction we we
tend to chase every little shining
object that we can get our hands on um
because it looks good and we think it's
going to make us happy and it does for a
moment but then it passes and so for
examp that simple understanding how
everything changes means that we stop
seeking for happiness in the wrong place
if we keep seeking happiness in things
that are transient then we're going to
inevitably cause ourselves to be unhappy
because they're going to change so in
the same way um uh when we understand
that depth of of impermanence of change
then we stop the two primary
orientations we have towards experience
we either want the pleas pleasure or we
want to get away from the pain very
natural human biologically driven
impulses and um when we start to so
start to have a more subtle attention
with mindfulness practice we start to
see that movement of the mind and every
moment we're either leaning towards or
leaning away from experience we're
either grabbing demanding
attaching longing for something or
running and avoiding and escaping
something and mindfulness practi is is
learning how to stay steady in the
center of all that and not be so pushed
around by every little impulse for or
against experience and in that in that
we can find peace whether our backs
hurting whether our hearts breaking with
loss or whether we've you know um you
know just become a grandparent right
that that we can both appreciate the
joys and also learn to face the
difficulties and find a sense of
steadiness in the middle everybody's
wanting peace but we think peace is
dictated by creating the right
conditions but there's no right there's
no perfect conditions because those
conditions are always changing the peace
from the perspective of mindfulness
comes in how you relate to experience
and if you're not busy reacting and
judging and protesting and demanding
life be a certain way then you're more
likely to find peace in meeting life the
way it is rather than the way you think
it should be and that's a very simple
but radical orientation and mindfulness
reveals
how mostly we don't do that we're busy
fighting our our body's pain or
resisting something uh in our
relationship and in that we create this
perennial dissatisfaction and then that
keeps us chasing for the next shiny
thing which then you know doesn't last
very long and we keep we stay on this
treadmill which is you know in Indian
tradition they call samsara this Wheel
of Life we go round and round and around
not seeing the source of our of our
distress and and the way
out so that kind of leads me to my next
question a little bit it's going to be
maybe I don't know if it' be a
backhanded question but you know the law
of attraction manifestation uh people
using uh mindfulness and meditation
to um you know fulfill their Destiny get
on the right track and stay on that
track like once you're on it like we can
all kind of get there but maintaining it
and staying on it I believe you know
takes a certain level of mindfulness but
then again you know you're you're
talking about people are trying to find
maybe even their identity and things
outside of themselves um so you see
people using mindfulness to get
something that is not going to bring
them lasting Joy even they want a new
car they want to get that best parking
spot we've heard these things with the
secret and some of that stuff pushed out
there in Hollywood um when it comes to
manifestation is it something that that
you should do to kind of you know what
I'm saying get that new job the law of
attraction these kind of B buzzwords
would you need to be mindful for that or
do does it not really need to be used in
conjunction with monetary gain or you
know prestige in the world or something
like that like what is it is there a
certain way to use it and are people
using it because I think a lot of people
are with the law of attraction that kind
of stuff is like they're you know they
know that we like shiny things and
they're like okay you can meditate and
get a shiny thing meditate again get
another shiny thing right something
outside of ourselves the practice should
it be something that's within this inner
peace and then all the stuff on the
outside is just going to come how does
that work with you know meditating to
get a job or meditating to find a lover
or whatever the case is uh just as far
as being
mindful yeah well in terms of the the
sort of the
manifesting you know you know in in in
in the in the sort of Realm of the um
the secret and that kind of
ideology uh mindfulness has got
absolutely nothing to do with that
whatsoever um however um
uh the there is something that's related
which is um mindfulness um is about
becoming clear becoming aware knowing
yourself and knowing what's true and
knowing what's important knowing who you
are and the more that we cultivate that
self-awareness through mindfulness the
more we understand and our hearts our
intentions our longings our aspirations
our mind our
limitations um and as we do that we
become more sensitive and attune to
ourself ourselves and more aligned with
what's really important in our
hearts when we're not self-aware we
we're disconnected from ourselves we're
disconnected from what's really
important and we end up doing and living
a life that's not really in alignment
with who we are because we don't know
who we are and so it's essential so what
mindfulness does you know related to
your question mindfulness helps us
develop the self-awareness to know who
we are to know what brings happiness and
well-being for ourselves and what brings
suffering and distress and then living a
life of an alignment according with
what's brings well-being and usually
what brings well-being is something that
actually benefits not just ourselves but
benefits others benefits the community
benefits the Earth um you know a life
that's more oriented towards kindness
compassion
generosity um so mindfulness serves in
that in that in this Arena of the more
we know ourselves the more aligned we
are with our own values our own purpose
our ethics and what the joke I say to
people to my students is if you don't
cultivate this mindful self-awareness at
some point you wake up and you have a
midlife crisis because a midlife crisis
is just someone who's been out of touch
with themselves and out of touch with
what's important you know they maybe
they you know they're working a job that
they hate and at some point 20 years
later they go I cannot do this anymore I
would rather die than do this job years
ago they might not have got in that dead
end situation so it's really about
living in alignment with with yourself
um and then in terms of manifesting I
think when we're more aligned
in integrous with ourselves things tend
to unfold um yeah more easily I would
say yeah cuz I think all that stuff kind
of comes with it it's like almost like
the walking out process and I think
gratitude comes in there being thankful
being mindful in every situation uh you
know letting go of the victim mentality
that I'm just a victim of the
circumstances of my family or my friends
or I'm I have to stay at this dead-end
job or whatever and I like the fact that
you said that you know whatever you
should focus on the things that are is
not just going to bring happiness to you
but to the world and I guess when that
relates to a job because that's that's
really my story had a midlife crisis I
guess just seeing the infinite potential
about what what I can uh you know what I
feel like I'm called to do and then
where I am now and it's like a big Gulf
in between and that can be that can kind
of freak you out but I believe there
were PR practical steps to to
manifesting that but as far as the
person who's looking for that job or to
do their their heart's desire if they're
in that flow if they find out what that
is they're going to be happy like they
feel like this is what they're here to
do but their job bagging groceries
prevents them doing it financially
TimeWise that they can't really do what
they were put here to do and that that
can get overwhelming for people but when
you are in that people want to be around
you you know you you you find other ways
to help people do what they're doing
you're an inspiration just kind of um
organically to to other people because
you you actually wake up for a living
and and love to be in your skin you love
to clock in whatever that is it's
talking about like you know they talk
about entrepreneurs like people would
give up a job working 40 hours a week um
doing something they hate and they would
you know gladly work 70 hours a week at
a at at a job that they love you know
doing their own thing and I found that
to be really true but it's about getting
in that flow that flow is that is that
too woo woo we talk about the flow stat
the states of Consciousness um you know
that you're on the right path you know
when I think this this whole Zen State
through meditation through Consciousness
we we kind of uh we kind of dance in
that realm you you know when you're in
and when when you're when you're out um
sure sometimes it could you can fall off
the track and it seems like it's been
months or whatever and you don't feel
connected um do you believe in that
maybe even synchronicities people talk
about when they're on this right Road
they start seeing signs and numbers and
something God the universe is
communicating with them letting them
know that they're on the right path and
they're in the flow is that a thing that
you believe
in yeah so you know definitely there's a
relationship between mindfulness and
flow so flow state is um you know a
state that's basically effortless
attention effortless energy where you're
you know like Michael Jackson Michael
Jordan in the peak of his game on the on
the basketball court you know he's in a
flow State athletes musicians people who
like to code artists um you know there's
many many ways that we get into the flow
state where we our attention is absorbed
focused and in a way mindfulness is a
form of Flow State in that when we're
fully mindful we're present we're
engaged we're embodied we're connected
there's Clarity and of course when we're
in that state whether it's through
working or parenting or whatever it is
that we're
doing uh when we're in that flow State
there is a sense of alignment and and
connection and um uh it's certainly a
more optimal and more effective state to
be in and you know whether synchronicity
happens more in that state I don't know
but it's
certainly um well you're I think I think
you're more mindful of the synchronicity
right I mean it's it's definitely
happening but you're mindful of it right
there's more awareness of connections
right and and and and uh and as you say
synchronicity so
um and so that so and this is where the
practice comes in most people get into a
flow slate sort of by accident I mean if
you're a trained athlete you work you
work you work you work like you know
Michael Jordan didn't you know shoot
hoops you know just out of the blue like
he trained and trained and trained and
trained um and the same you know if we
cultivate mindfulness we access that
flow State much more easily but it does
require
training discipline practice and most
people don't want to do the work they
want to just jump to you know that nice
place without actually realizing no it
comes from you know anybody who Masters
something it comes about through
training and through discipline you like
the DI Lama you know who's this
beautiful Emissary of compassion and
kindness uh from the Tibetan tradition
you know he gets up at 3:30 in the
morning and he meditates four or five
hours every day for the last 70 years
there a reason why
he's such a beautiful Emissary of
compassion um you know because he's done
his work as you know you could say the
same with Mother Teresa and you know Dr
King and others who you know don't just
become amazing people overnight it be
gets through work it's through intention
it's through practice it's through
prayer it's through meditation yeah
that's awesome like uh you want to be
around those people cuz they know who
they are and they love what they what
they do I remember you know we would go
to a tattoo shops right and I would see
these tattoo artists who get to wake up
and draw for a living and they love to
draw and just to be around them at their
job they love being there versus going
to a job that you Lo and you hate and I
would see like and they were making good
money doing it you know doing what they
love and it was so interesting so those
people they have like this natural aura
that they're doing what they love for a
living right they get to wake up and and
punch on that clock and and and do what
they were created to do so those people
who were in that flow State man you just
want to be around them um we got a
question here from Christy folks in the
chat speaking about the Flow State and
being mindful I've experienced this in
the past so I definitely know it's a
thing maybe you can give us some
pointers but she says uh question for
the guest if a person feels they are
losing their mindfulness as if they are
slipping away from that awareness what
practical steps can they take to bring
themselves back
right yeah well thank you great question
so the very noticing that you've slipped
away is an act of mindfulness right so
it it's when we don't know we've Slipped
Away we get really lost we can get lost
for a really long time yeah and until
suddenly we have the thought wait a
minute I'm really spaced out I'm really
not present I'm sort of having this
conversation but I'm really not
listening to a word that's saying or I'm
supposed to be meditating but I'm is
fantasizing about you know my next
vacation and then we realize oh wait a
minute I'm thinking I'm planning I'm
worrying I'm stressing I'm spacing that
recognition is a moment of mindfulness
as soon as we recognize what's going on
that's mindfulness and so mindfulness
has already reestablished itself if
you're doing a meditation then it would
be okay you recognize your thinking and
you come and and you recognize you're
distracted you come back to whatever it
is you're focusing whe whether it's
prayer or the breath or you know what
whatever meditation object or practice
you're doing so and we catch ourselves
spacing out more and more so in the
beginning sometimes mindfulness can be a
little disheartening because if we sit
down to meditate and maybe I I give you
listeners a simple meditation practice
of pay attention to feel your breath for
10 minutes mostly what most people will
notice is how hard that is and that most
of the time they're thinking worrying
and planning and it can be a little
disillusioning CU like oh wait a minute
I'm supposed to be mindful but all I'm
doing is actually spacing out and
thinking and that's that's the
recognition like oh this is my mind
that's untrained yeah and clearly I need
to train it to encourage it cultivate it
discipline it to really learn how to
stay in the present moment because that
that's where everything is happening so
um so I just say to your listener that
good noticing that you're wandering
spacing out not here and each time you
notice that rather than judge yourself
for spacing out oh great I've noticed
I'm not here let's come back let's
reestablish this present moment
attention and begin again the present
moment is always forgiving the next
moment is always forgiving we can always
return you know we space out we react we
get lost and it takes a moment to return
to be present to breathe to be kind to
be
patient you you just mention judgment uh
you talk a lot about judgment in the
book uh you know what I'm saying self
self judgment really is there uh is
there a healthy way we can do that I
mean we've heard it put that we should
always examine ourselves and make sure
that we're on the right path or are
people doing it to their own
detriment yeah well that's an important
point my last book um called make peace
with your mind it was specifically a
book about how mindfulness and
compassion helps you free from this
inner critic the the judge The
self-judging Habit which is mostly
negative distorted
destructive and the reason I wrote that
book and the reason why I talk about it
so much in this book The from suffering
to Peace book is that um most people
like most students I work with and I
teach all over the world um people are
very very uh crippled by their um their
negative selft talk you know most people
I know hard on themselves push
themselves and fault finding nitpicking
every little foible fault problem error
that they make and uh we think oh well
if I'm if I'm you know hard on myself or
if I push myself or if I'm critical
myself and I judge myself that's going
to make me a better person well the
research is very clear when we're
judging ourselves and berading ourselves
for being stupid or not smart enough or
cute enough or wealthy enough or
whatever the story is that actually
creates basically shuts down the
learning capacity of the brain and
because of that we don't learn like you
know say say you have a you know you're
involved in some business and you make
some Financial move and it you know goes
south and it's it's not a great uh
result and then your critic comes online
and goes ah you stupid you fool you
should have done this you should have
done that you shouldn't have done this
all that berading judging criticizing
doesn't create the conditions for us to
learn and improve in the future it just
makes us feel bad so the net result of
all this self-judgment is we feel shame
we feel uh unworthy we feel you know
less than
deficient and um a better strategy is to
notice it with
awareness and and when I when I say when
I talk about working with the inner
critic I'm not talking we have all these
other qualities in the mind that are
much more healthy and effective than
than self-judging things like evaluating
assessing Discerning discriminating
um where we can you know we assess a
situation we can look at it we can
analyze it go well that was useful that
wasn't I'll look I'll you know alter my
strategy and do this in the future
rather than you know you fool you're
stupid you blew it you're a failure
you're never going to get your life
together you're never going to make any
money right so we need to so where
mindfulness is so helpful is it is it
catches these judging thoughts and
usually if we analyze like well I get my
students to write down their judging
thoughts and most of them are not
accurate they're distorted and they're
very negatively biased and if you shared
them with your best friend and said is
this true am I really a loser am I
really a failure am I really unlovable
am I really never G to get my life
together they'll say no I think that's
true you know they might see a grain of
Truth somewhere about you know you might
need to do some things to help you be
more successful but you know a failure
and so it's important that how
mindfulness again this the point of
mindfulness is to develop Clarity and
understanding so we live more wisely and
we don't develop wisdom by living
listening to a negative judgmental
critic that only sees our negative side
and not our strengths and our goodness
and our positive
attributes it's good stuff I believe it
man good stuff so your book is from
suffering to peace what is the
um like something that you would like
people to take away from this the
most yeah well you know I think few
things one is that mindfulness is really
accessible anybody can do it um if you
can if you're breathing and you can pay
attention to your breath you can be
mindful if you're walking and you can be
attention pay attention when you're
walking you can be mindful if you're
having a conversation and you can be
aware of the conversation you and the
other person you can be mindful and we
can cultivate it through practices
through techniques through meditation
and that that awareness that
self-awareness can help build
understanding can really help us
understand what causes happiness and
what causes us to to be to suffer and we
can find ways to free ourselves from
those suffering habits and tendencies
and find uh a living uh well-being and
peace that's really available to anyone
and everyone if we if we do the work if
we do the practice good stuff well Mark
hullan I really uh appreciate this
episode you coming on hanging out with
me for a little bit um thank you so much
let people know where they can go to
check out the book sure yeah so um you
can buy the book on Amazon and if you
want more information about my work I I
lead Retreats and online courses and
classes and lots of other books and
resources and teacher trainings you can
go to my website Mark coleman. org
that's Mark with a K Coleman
c.org and um yeah look forward to seeing
you there all right thank you so much my
friend thank you for coming on hanging
out with me we'll have to do it again
okay thanks a lot take care have a good
one thank you byebye byebye Mark Coleman
ladies and gentlemen mindfulness
practicing
mindfulness uh being in the moment being
ever present you know this uh some of
the things uh he's he's talking about
like this is stuff we talk about all the
time right being being in in the moment
being present being Jesus said be
anxious for nothing like project in your
Consciousness your thought life outside
of yourself always anticipating
something else that's going to go on
anticipate I mean you do that with with
like shopping or Retreats or um man
going on vacation you just look CU
you're looking forward to this thing
that is not within you it's outside of
you you're looking forward to it so much
that you miss being present and in the
moment so we do that all the time or
then we talked about seeing the shiny
things the things that we feel like if
we buy that then it's going to make us
happy even for a little bit right
whether it's clothing whether it's a
book or or a video game whatever it is
or something outside of you you buy it
and then you immediately have buyer
remorse why did I buy
this it doesn't make me feel better or
it did when you had it it did while you
was in the checkout line and then once
you get it you're like man I shouldn't
even have bought that I don't even want
this and it's just sitting next to all
the other shiny things that lose their
shine once you have them once you hold
them but it's about that that inner
peace you know and um and and
cultivating that within you so you can
make the judgments on things all this
stuff like this stuff's there there's
certain colors that make you want to buy
there's you see you know a green light
means go you see red it's danger stop
you know and so there would be different
colors and shapes and symbols and
triangles and things things like that
circles around the logo oh if you study
Freud just the way the mind works and um
you know they they're able to sell us
anything so you got to be careful got to
know who you are know your budget too
like you know don't just let these
people sell you anything I like I like
the fact that he he used the term um
shiny objects and shiny things as well
it's pretty interesting I'm actually
working on a new meditation right now um
and one of the experiences in the
meditation is being about being pulled
off of your course to look at the shiny
things being pulled off of the course to
be like oh look at
this and it's cool you're there and then
but you're not on the the course anymore
you've stopped to check this stuff out
you know the golden calf Moses coming
down the mountain and seeing them
worshiping the golden calf like hold on
we just you guys are so easily swayed by
any cool thing that comes by Any teacher
by any new book by any Doctrine and so
there's not like this anchor you don't
have this foundation so it's about
building the foundation and um I'm
exploring that in a new meditation I'm
working on pretty interesting um even
how that came about it wasn't my plan to
to write about the shiny objects but it
was something that I felt like the Lord
wanted me to uh put in there and and
minister to in this meditation so that
should be done soon I'm still writing it
got to record it and then produce it and
all that so it'll be cool but talking
about the Lord talking about
Consciousness um there's different ways
to tap into that stream the Flow State
but when you're there you know we're
talking about this inner critic it's the
bad guy it's the Satan it's the
adversary to God's will for your life
the adversary to your destiny right of
of doing good that adversary that comes
up and like he you shouldn't have did it
n you're stupid you're this you're that
and all of these things you start to
believe the inner critic who really has
no right to be there but there's a level
that you can walk in whether it's
learning the scriptures and
understanding what God says about your
life knowing who you are your destiny
and being on that path and then you can
reach States in in meditation uh
especially if you're um try if if you're
uh goal oriented if you set the
intention to commune with God through
meditation commune with the higher self
of knowing the essence of who you really
are commune with that get to know that
there's the inner critic but once you
get past that there's the the unbiased
standpoint that you hear those thoughts
about yourself but they're lofty they're
good they're telling you good things
about yourself you know what I'm saying
reaffirming you reassuring you on the
good things that you're doing versus
always pointing out the bad we beat
ourselves up and it's almost like it's
someone else doing that right um but
getting in with with God or you know in
there's different ways to do that you
basically get to look at your life from
an unbiased standpoint and and get
critiques you know get critiques about
about what you're doing what you need to
change I mean some we need the critic we
don't need a bunch of Yes Men Even in
our head bunch of Yes man every you know
just agreeing with everything that we
think with everything that we're we're
doing I think we do need critical
thinking I think the critic is there for
a reason it's not just a bad guy it's a
bad guy if if you let him beat you up
and you just never approach it from the
other side of just knowing that okay get
a game plan why am I here and you know
we talk about meditating and and and
praying and and getting with with God
and letting God love on you telling you
yeah you're you're on the right path
look I know you messed up but keep keep
at it you know you're going to get it
down you're going to get better at it as
is talking about and you do get better
at it you get better at all this stuff
meditation you get better at when you
mess up not loathing and sitting in your
mess up you know just wallowing in the
mud you know you messed up but you know
what I'm not going to sit here I'm not
going to live here I'm not going to let
that uh set me back you know my my
setbacks are set up you know for me to
live my be best life my my setbacks are
a slingshot to propel me into the life
that I want for myself and so you look
look at like biblically like all the
archetypes and stuff we look at you know
Joseph who was in jail right before his
big breakthrough you know and we see all
of them you know Jesus on the cross
right before he his triumphant return
his Ascension you know all of these
things where it looks like all the odds
are against you it looks like you've
messed up but literally your best days
are ahead of you if you believe
it if you believe in and and and
believing it is is uh you know not
siding with the
Satan not siding with the adversary the
critic side with the critic listen to
him he's got a they got a point you know
this it exists for a reason the
adversaries the monsters the Giants in
your life they exist just for a reason
again it's part of the contrast you have
to know so just pretty much getting rid
of all of the negative thoughts and
ideas about yourself is what you're
supposed to do so sitting in that um
shout out to everybody holding us down
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here let me know if anybody has any
questions too we got a few more minutes
here uh Mark only had a little bit of
time with us today so we do have a
little bit of time for just Q&A or talk
about whatever you guys want want to
talk about um
my my um I'm a little tired and my voice
is a little shot went and seen the
Christian band striper last night at a
uh concert so we uh we had fun doing
that so went and seeing striper so I'm a
little tired we didn't get until really
late but
um let's
see what is
uh saam Baba says my dude where them
weed oil carts at C Ridges at I don't
know what that is weed oil what you
talking about like I don't know what
that is vaping weed I don't know not
sure man uh shout out to Christy folks
as well thank you for the donation I did
get that I don't know if I should turn
the alerts down or just pause them I
forget to do it and like it cuts off the
um the person talking a lot of
times let's see home sauce shout out to
you uh says I'm back with New
Perspective and superhuman Supernatural
superhero abilities manifesting and
becoming more than ever believes
possible that's what's up that's what's
up yeah there's man just even with
Christy's you know comment man you you
can feel yourself getting off I remember
um doing some interviews a couple years
ago and I was just out of it I was out
of the flow
you tap into to the flow stage
and you're manifesting everything you're
seeing synchronicities everywhere you're
seeing all this stuff happening and then
something happens a setback happens you
wallow in the depression you just sit in
the depression and then you sat in the
depression 2 weeks 2 months 6 months and
you're just there and you're like man
that so the person that you was all the
manifesting you talking about the
superhero all of that stuff it just
seems like it's so far away
because you're out of the flow and you
and you don't even know if it's possible
to get back in it but it is do the
things that got you in it do the first
works is what the scripture says do the
first Works what like remember why you
got into this cuz even even we talk
about you know spirituality and
mindfulness and this stuff is shiny when
it's brand new all of this is shiny
these new teachers these new speakers
the new lecturers all of these people
it's shiny catches your attention you
learn all things are new but then
eventually like the newness wears off of
that shiny thing which is spirituality
which is anything really once you've
been there long enough you know you get
used to it you know you need new things
to stimulate you or whatever the case is
and so um even doing something good you
can grow weary in well-doing you know if
you and you have to remind yourself okay
why did I get into this why am I here
remind yourself religion for the the
sake of religion there's many people who
are there who are just like man what am
I doing here like what am I is is God
even real does God even you start asking
yourself these questions and and things
and it really uh messes you up can throw
you off the path but again there's the
contrast there's the contrast that you
know that it's possible to fall off the
path you know that it's possible to mess
up you know and you have something to
kind of weigh that against versus you
have it all figured out and everything's
is going to be good
um oh yeah so that's good Chris Garner
says what's the scripture about being
mindful of every thought yeah he was
talking about that you know being
mindful of every thought and uh panda
panda answered them in chat and says
maybe the one that talks about taking
thoughts cap captive yeah it talks about
taking every thought captive uh and
especially the ones that exalt
themselves against the knowledge of God
against the knowledge of Christ what
what does that mean for us well it means
for what God says about you you're
lovely you're beautiful my thoughts are
continually upon you the scripture says
I have plans for you plans to give you a
hope and give you a future plans to
prosper you okay so anything that goes
against that take those thoughts captive
taking captive every thought I believe
it's uh
Ephesians uh I get a c some of these um
spiritual warfare um
this this scriptures I I um 2
Corinthians
10 um the NIV says we demolish arguments
in every pretention that sets itself up
against the knowledge of God and we take
captive every thought to to make it
obedient to Christ so everything taking
let's see I'm going go to the KJV I just
really like the KJV better let me read
that
one so KJV says casting down
imaginations that's dope imagination so
casting them down in every High thing
that exalted itself against the
knowledge of God and bringing into
captivity every thought to The Obedience
of Christ so again whatever like goes
against God's will for your
life the critic becomes the
Satan because you have we talked about
this a little bit yesterday but you have
um the Satan appearing which is just the
word Satan translates to adversary so we
have Peter talking to Jesus about the
cross like going to the cross and uh
he's trying to talk him out of it like
Peter's trying to talk Jesus out of the
Cross Jesus knows that he's has to do it
Jesus is even scared like he he so
there's a part of him that's like you
know maybe thinking about not doing it
or man if there's another way let's do
this another way why does it got to be
so why do I have to do this come on and
so Peter's like uh yeah you don't have
to do it he's trying to talk him out of
it and then Jesus kind of pull pulls his
you know s together and rebukes him and
says get behind me he calls him
Satan get behind me
Satan for you do not Savor the things of
God but the things of man Peter was not
Satan but Peter was acting as the critic
as the the adversary because he was
bringing something contrary to the will
of the father uh against the will of the
the father to Jesus and so we can play
the adversary we can play the Satan
there and many people play the Satan
many people play the the um the Pharisee
many you play many roles in your life
and at times depending on the
circumstance and the situation for that
person you can easily play that and that
Satan can show up in many forms in your
life not saying that that person is
Satan but they're being if you want to
say used of Satan or them themselves are
be are being an adversary going against
the will of God for your life life um
Chris Garner we're talking about here he
says uh captive that's it we had talked
about that that before that you know
that's good let's read that again uh
casting down imaginations this is uh 2
Corinthians 10:5 casting down
imaginations and every when you when you
study the Bible in
mind man it'll blow your mind and I mean
you get any any Bible uh software es
sword is a free one that you can get and
just go on it and type in mind read all
the scriptures about the mind and the
the battlefield and the war that is in
the mind and if you know um but casting
down imaginations and everything that
exalted itself against the knowledge of
God and bringing into captivity every
thought to The Obedience of
Christ talking about captive bringing in
these thoughts to the cap uh
captivity to Obedience of Christ because
if you don't those thoughts will take
you captive
if you don't take those thoughts captive
they will take you captive you start to
believe things that aren't real you
start
to Echo the
lies you know you hear other people
saying things about you that's a big one
and that that you hear what other you
hear the the critic speaking not in here
you hear them speaking through other
people you hear him speaking through
Peter yeah don't do it you ain't got to
go the cross Jesus there's other ways to
go about this you start hearing the
critics speaking through others but you
know it you you know it and you can take
it captive if you don't those thoughts
those ideas will take you captive you
begin to believe them repetition reduces
resistance if enough people start saying
it even about you about your family what
whatever it is you begin to believe it
and you begin to cast off
restraint you don't even fight it
anymore you it becomes what we call an
ungodly belief and you've accepted it
months years go by you're on to new
things when somebody mentions that
person when somebody mentions for a lot
of people you know I I deal with a lot
of people on here when when we even say
the word god they they click and go to
another video they don't like that word
don't like that word
God you know so it's different things
and it triggers
people it's triggering you for something
that shouldn't like why you why are you
upset because you've believed a lie and
I've become your enemy because I tell
you the
truth all of us do
it for different things for God for I
mean it could be anything man it could
be anything you know it reminds you of
something that you don't like about
yourself something that people have said
to you your parents you've believed the
ungodly belief you've believed a lie and
you've accepted it as truth that's why
you're supposed to cast down the
imaginations take them cap take bringing
every thought and
captivity into captivity every thought
to The Obedience of Christ whatever it's
about you start believing all kind of
weird stuff about yourself you know I
mean there's levels to it it can get
really deep it's demonic we talking
about demons right and spiritual warfare
and Satan all of that stuff is in your
it's in your mind
the the battlefield is in the mind these
thoughts that aren't real but guess what
to you they
are to you they are in your own little
world in your own reality your
cerebral they exist in your ecosystem
these thoughts that are not true and you
need to renew your mind the Bible says
renew the
mind cuz we're all building we're all
forming relationships or lack of because
of these ungodly beliefs
well I mean it's all kind of things
people say I'm never going to find the
right spouse I'm just getting too old
everyone's taken that's always the
weirdest thing you meet girls who who
say that they never going to find the
right guy you know everybody's a you
know have these weird everybody's a
party animal everybody's all guys are
dogs and they believe they start
believing that and then they can't find
anybody so here's this this Lonely Woman
and then you got a guy on the other side
who's saying very similar things about
women nobody's going to like me nobody
understands me I'm just this I'm just
that or whatever you have two different
people on the opposite ends of the
spectrum that if they got those thoughts
out the way they would probably be
perfect for each other they're both
looking for a spouse but they're not
going to go out they're not going to do
anything because they've created these
thoughts in their head and they've
accepted it it's sat in for too long it
becomes it comes becomes the norm you
have to renew your mind that's just a
one scenario there's so many anything
that holds you back from what God has
for you and if you desire to marry if
you desire a wife then it's for you I I
believe that so it is God's will for you
for that to happen so what is stopping
that and you need to ask yourself you
need to be real and that's just I mean
this is one scenario guys we're talking
about the perfect job we're talking
about what you do for a living we're
talking about having good good friends
in your life why do I keep
attracting these negative friends why do
I keep you know working at dead end jobs
or whatever see what it is move that
stuff out of the way there's a reason
that you're doing
it you know the the ungodly beliefs the
demons they are come in as
strongholds thoughts
ideas um that are not for
you so
say listen yeah
um let's see uh Garner says
um okay so Danny says people get
triggered when you call him father or
when you say God is personal and not
impersonal oh yeah yep for
sure
um Chris says
then we look at Tibetan Buddhism and
meditating on go goodly thoughts or
Godly thoughts not sure what you meant
there yep taking every thought captive
man renewing the mind because you're
making decisions based off of these
belief systems these lies or truths I
mean they become truth to you right
we're talking about seeking truth like
truth seek a podcast it becomes truth to
you because you've believed it long
enough and that's your truth not saying
it's real but in your mind in that
ecosystem of your your brain it's
real all people are this all Muslims are
this all black people are this and trust
me they're out
there categorizing making those
judgments about other
people yep so anyway uh really enjoyed
this podcast good talk uh Mark Coleman
his
book um from suffering to peace the true
promise of mindfulness I mean you guys
know I usually go back to the uh the
scriptures on a lot of stuff that people
are saying and there were so many
um uh that were uh dropping there so I
kind of covered a little bit of it um
what is the scripture in Matthew it says
take no uh thought what you're going to
do to uh tomorrow but just focus on
today for tomorrow has enough worry in
and of
itself to figure out what you're going
to do today quit worrying about tomorrow
quit worrying about the past focus on
today you got everything you need today
I mean that's the whole thing again we
talked about this with with Mana in the
Bible you know
um they only had enough Mana for that
day like this was these Wafers or
whatever people want to say it was
mushrooms or whatever that were on the
ground
Wafers um that they had to get that
morning and they could only gather what
they needed for the day because it would
turn moldy it would go bad right and you
needed that
bread give us this day our daily bread
you needed it for that day not for
tomorrow but for today and this it you
just you need to understand that
you have to focus on today why because
that's what being mindfulness is or be
being mindful is focusing paying
attention to for today not tomorrow it's
easy to project yourself outside of
yourself it's easy to do that again the
true promise of mindfulness by uh Mark
Coleman make peace with your
mind I like the word
promise promise is good stand up stand
upon the promises the promises of God as
we call them I I really believe that's
universal law um and and they're good
things if you do good things right comes
back to you you do bad
things bad things come back to
you so with that I'm G say peace and
Shalom again I I appreciate you guys
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morning sear class really good again I'm
working on some some more
meditations um it's going to be good I'm
excited to finish it but uh I'm I'm
having to eat my own words cuz they the
meditations usually come quick right as
when I jump into the Flow State as we're
talking about when you're writing you're
in that flow State you're receiving from
God but then this is something that's
kind of been drawn out I've only been
able to sit down and receive a little
bit here and then receive a little bit
there so it's actually being drawn out a
little bit when I say oh yeah they come
easy comes quick comes easy but yeah I'm
having to revisit it a bunch but trust
me it's going to be good working on that
one this is uh the um the Hemm of His
Garment power flowing from the h of the
Garment and it's a journey and a
visualization through that it's going to
be good um sator Awakening thanks for
your work bro you help me a lot hey
blessings to you thank you so much um so
with that I'm say peace and Shalom we'll
do it again uh no school of the mystics
tonight guys um we we got you know
talking about patreon we got a bunch of
patrons in town hanging out with people
people are part of the community uh last
week we did it doing it again this week
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we're going to do the Sunday morning
Seer class if you're a part of that if
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with that I'm going to say peace and
Shalom guys
later higher
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