Matthew Silver | Spirituality & The Power of Laughter
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMw3zzBkNvk
Transcript source: YouTube captions

what's up guys I'm excited to announce
that this is the 100th episode of the
truth seeker podcast and at the same
time we've reached number 100 in patreon
supporters thank you guys so much for
believing in my work my music and the
podcasts thank you guys so much for
supporting it we're only getting started
and there's great things ahead 100
episodes 100 patrons the synchronicity
is amazing thank you guys I hope you all
enjoyed this episode with Matthew Silver
the wackadoo as much as I did
Shalom Shalom truth seeker and/or its
affiliates are not responsible for any
strange phenomena that may occur during
or after listening to this podcast which
may include the following heightened
senses of awareness psychic abilities
UFO sightings alien contact time loss
out-of-body experiences ringing in the
ears ESP lucid dreaming increasing
chronicity
astral projection telepathy stronger
intuition levitation miraculous healings
and on remote
please be advised Allison patrols
what you
these faintest and when I don't be
and being spiritual what's up ladies and
gentlemen I'm your host true seeker this
is the true seeker podcast I'm excited
and delighted to be with you guys here
sharing this sacred space
I'm excited this is the big episode
episode number 100 I've been doing this
podcast for a while and this is the
100th episode thank you guys for
sticking with me bearing with me over
the years and finally got to episode
number 100 man I'm excited about this
and the way that podcasts is headed and
building with you guys in this community
it's been awesome so thank you guys for
supporting me over the years everybody
who supported me my work over at
patreon.com I couldn't do this without
you so thank you so much if you want to
support head on over to patreon comm
backslash Tru sticker there you'll get
extra episodes you get access to my
entire discography of music all kinds of
cool stuff that we have that we have the
School of the Mystics is something we do
on Thursday nights it's community based
teaching and courses that we're going
through together so if you guys want to
be a part of that check out what I have
to offer
head on over to patreon comback slash
true seeker thank you guys for the
support it means the world podcasts is
free to consume it's not free to produce
so thank you guys so much for the
support without further adieu man we
have a great show lined up for you guys
I've been wanting to talk to this person
for a while but we've been trying to
make it happen and we finally got on the
same page with with schedules and
everything this episode i'm joined by
matthew silver the wackadoo what's going
on my brother is going hey man thanks
for joining me Bree yes thank you so for
people who don't know what you do you're
definitely a street performer but
there's like you know your street
performer but there's like an edgy
behind it right it's just not to go out
there to entertain people I think
entertainment is part of it but I think
that spreading like it says on your
website consciousness through love and
getting people to kind of step outside
of their comfort zone and know that it's
okay to laugh and okay to smile and and
spreading love through the gift of
performance you want to talk a little
bit about what you're doing what you
bring to the table well you just you
know summarize yeah it's basically the
intention is to involve evolve the
planet and in order to do that one good
ways to wake people up and you know it's
it's it's an exercise to help realize
like the evolution of the planet has to
be a conscious decision it won't just a
lot of times back back in the days my
friends would say oh you know 2012
there's gonna be this beam of magnetic
light of the planets and all of a sudden
everybody's going to evolve I mean it's
it's we each have free will and people
like evolving what is that but um I mean
it would inspire us all oh it would it
would help us all to feel more connected
and yeah like the the main thing that
will evolve the planet is love do you
think something happened in 2012 I know
it was like kind of a I think there was
a shift that happened maybe if it wasn't
in the spiritual realm or in a planet
shifting
maybe people were looking forward to
something happening so within something
happened I know I kind of went deeper
you know I'm saying during that that
time period and getting into esoteric
teachings and documentaries and things
like that do you think something
happened as a collective maybe that it
was like an okay to be yourself or okay
to be spiritual type deal or anything
like that
yeah why not I mean but I don't think
it's like any well from my personal
experience I don't think it was like one
I didn't feel it as one big moment I
it's just been a gradual like the
opening of new spiritual ideas has
always been like this gradual incline I
mean at the same time yet you still have
people who are stuck but you also have a
higher amount of people who are more
open to to this whole I mean I mean
spirituality is I mean that's just a
general I it's just a general Aemon but
it's it's the the the awakening it's
almost it's awakening within you know
and and and that's I mean in a way
that's like what I mean I feel like our
messages are early wake up wake up
yourself within and maybe 2012 more that
happens yeah like it was okay like it's
almost like an excuse to be spiritual or
because I think a lot of people are
having this change within them but it's
like and okay you don't have to keep it
closet we're going through this together
there's tons of documentaries
everybody's doing interviews about it
those type of things I had I definitely
had a shift as far as that is concerned
looking into a lot of stuff and
something shifted for me not like when
the clock struck 12 or whatever the case
was and then it was like that polar
shift but that whole timeframe of seeing
like a resurgence of a lot of spiritual
stuff we even if we look into like
veganism or essential oils and stuff
like that if you look at the like the
the Google search terms like those
things are skyrocketing third-eye
spirituality meditation all of this
stuff yoga you know what I'm saying from
that point today those search terms are
just going just just a gradual increase
so I think that's really neat Wow
so talk a little bit about this I wanted
to talk about the path of the fool right
so there's this place of essentially
making yourself vulnerable to make other
people smile to make other people laugh
to kind of break that hard shell that we
try to kind of put up and be be reserved
or be just in the you know this persona
or whatever the case is but when like
you you're out there performing and you
walk up to random people make them laugh
you do little silly things they don't
know if you're a crazy person which I
guess that's the character you play or
just a piece of you as well I think
that's the I think the things definitely
a part of you but talk a little bit
about what happens when you engage
people some people are reserved some
people walk away other people join right
in and a huge smile jumps on their face
and these people are dancing and singing
with you out in public and things like
that
well like I said it's it's I'm
performing out there and I'm looking for
well now it's more like consciousness
shift before it's just like smiles but
it's it's not just smiles it's like like
you said you know you're out there you
put yourself vulnerable you become I
mean we're we're a collective right
we're all connected we're all one but
then you you yeah I mean you you're
putting yourself out there and then
you're standing out but you're still
you're still all connected but when it
what happens is is I guess as an artist
or as a spiritual or whatever they
people see themselves in you right mhm
and they they and they walk past and
maybe some people say oh I would never
be caught doing that that like Didius I
would yeah I hate this guy well I I
don't wanna you know
or or they just and then others they see
an awakening to it it really positive
and it's just a good thing that you know
to to be you know you know what you're
doing with this talk show or it's you
become an example you become sample of
consciousness or consciousness awakening
mmm-hmm
not everybody sees it that way but if
it's something that that people yeah
when I when I look at people's looks
they're like you know they have this
that they have this pause in their face
I have no idea what they're thinking you
know if they're thinking anything I I it
is a trigger you know it is a trigger
people are like you know why but um you
know nonetheless it's it's it's
important I I mean it doesn't matter
what you do in life anything that you're
putting your mind to is it important so
you know I'm putting my mind to
conscious shifting make it I'm doing my
conscious effort for for that you know
how important is that too because I feel
like you're doing what you were put here
to do with you what you were sitting
here to do you're doing what you love
for a living you do this daily or
whatever the case is how important is
finding what what what moves you what
kind of makes your heart beat in turn to
actually pursue that versus being stuck
at the dead-end 9 to 5s and things like
that where people to just feel like
they're stuck in a trap versus being
able to get up and enjoy life and do
what you love for a living on a
day-to-day basis well I I feel like it's
it's you have to choose what you're
doing you have to be present
and not say everything is controlling
you and you're just you know your your
you know your unconscious mind your your
your a reactionary you know what I mean
like you're just you just I gotta do
this I don't want to do it and you know
I have with what I do I have I have a
strong intention you know every year I I
change it a little bit but it is mostly
very much the same this year it's I said
I say before I go out there I say we are
shifting the planet to love
consciousness with the gift of love so
and so it's it's Dada excites me that
that excites me like um a planetary
shift which is happening already so I'm
I'm doing my part to be a part of it
you know so I'm excited it's something
drives me
yeah I'm sorry yeah no that no that's
good I mean I think I think I mean I'm
just now getting into that place where
I'm able to even do this show for a
living and I do music as well but I've
just now got to a place where I'm able
to kind of wake up and do what I love
for a living and the the freedom that
comes to that I get to wake up and kind
of write a song like my goal for the day
is to write a song or be creative and
work on art and things like that in
order to make a living off of it as well
there's a huge place that people are
watching other people do that and it
helps so watching you do what you love
and you thin and what what kind of moves
you it's kind of it's envious in a way
and it wouldn't it would move me to to
essentially jealousy but in a good way
and in a jealous way to do okay I need
to see what I can do to align myself up
where I can wake up and do what I love
for a living so I think that people
watching this show they see me doing
this
I would go to like tattoo parlors and
stuff I got some ain't done and see
people who go to work and they love
their job they they're doing what they
love they're happy and and that's the
envious man there's a lot of people who
were stuck in like the dead-end jobs or
just on default they're just living
there a product that they've got a job
whoever would hire them at the time and
they've been there ten eleven years five
years whatever the case is but they they
inwardly they want to do their passion
but they don't know how a man so would
there be any tips I mean to do anything
I know we talk with I know we're talking
about spirituality and stuff kind of
mixed in there what is there like it
inward knowing or maybe some time and
meditation where you can kind of get
that game plan and say this is what I
want to do and do it was there a big
shift for you when you said I'm gonna do
this and be consistent and show up and
not just do this once a month or once
every other week or what other cases
just to be consistent and in finding
things working for you yeah it's it's I
mean you you really it you you really
got to see that you no matter what point
in time is you really got to see that
you have a choice you know and it's yeah
I mean you you're doing whatever you're
doing you're doing your thing to connect
with the world and if you know if you're
not if you're not connecting and you
feel isolated you've I mean you've got
to either change your perspective or you
got to change what you're what you're
doing right mm-hmm
life is only as exciting as adventurous
as as you make it you know what I mean I
don't have the ability it's really
difficult it's really hope to to to get
up and the more
and you're doing something that doesn't
you know how with you for I mean first
you are the most important right hmm oh
if you don't love yourself then the
world around you becomes a reflection of
not loving yourself it becomes a
reflection of of your hate or your
indifference or whatever so I mean the
first thing is you go like like I mean
it's all important like what you're
doing now and then because you know what
have you follow your dreams and you and
you still hate yourself yeah you gotta
you know you gotta make sure that you're
entering you know your inner psyche on
your inner I don't know I'm sorry I
sidetrack or whatever no it's all good
man it's just a conversation um yeah I
think it's about you know I'm saying
getting that goal and we talked about
like going into meditation to kind of
get a game plan because many it's almost
like pulling yourself back to the moment
till like you said kind of be in charge
of your life and not just be a victim of
other people's decisions or or just
doing what you can to get by but you can
consciously create your life and and you
don't have to be the victim anymore and
once you do that there's a freedom in it
that you find that you that can't be
bought or sold even if it has to do with
like maybe doing without some of the
finer things in life are wearing
name-brand clothes these things that
people try to look for or going out to
eat all the time whatever it is like
it's okay to do without that stuff to do
what you love for a living like the
sacrifices that you got to make I
remember following you years ago man I
first found you you only had a couple
hundred followers on on like social
media I found you like a gym and I'll
just sharing you with all my mouth
and fanbase and stuff like that and then
eventually it caught on and your pages
blew up your videos would get hundreds
of thousands of views that you have you
have one video that went I know it went
viral
um the meaning of life from a crazy
person you know and that's that you know
that that video was shared all over the
place hey I know that guy I know that
guy I follow him and it kind of blew up
so it's something that you in your
natural habitat of just doing what you
love whether you're a tattoo artist
whether you're a street performer
whether you're a hip hop artist or you
do a podcast whatever you do and you
love it's contagious man that it
inspires others to pursue the things
that they love well you know you know
there's no you there's you know there's
your what is there there's your soul
your spirit your spirit your mind your
body right so and then there's and then
you know your your lives but you don't
know what you put your body in your mind
right you don't know how long this is
going to this is going to be you know
and sorry I don't know okay so was there
a shift that that that happened or shift
that occurred to where you were like
okay this is what I'm gonna do was you
in the nine-to-five hustle and bustle
did you what was you trying to keep up
with the Joneses at any point or have
you always been on this path you know I
think for a lot of people there's like a
defining moment when they choose to be
consistent when they choose to to kind
of make those those choices to show up
and do what they love for a living those
type of things was there a defining
moment for you it just just kind of kind
of flowed into it I I gradually floated
it float int I mean I was doing a video
editing freelance which I
I occasionally do like music videos yeah
yeah videos but um my you know my life
is not motivated by money it's it's
motivated by what's next level of my
existence to evolving there's more than
just you know there's always more than
just this you know what's the greater
our greater cells like and a lot of it
is is like our issues with you know this
planet is a we we see cells a separate
you know love is not a major thing
that's important and and then you know
we're not we're not always present you
know to the to this moment and I I'd
rather in order in order to do this you
have to like you have to become the
example and then you have to tell people
like what they already already know that
you you you have a choice you are awake
you are loved you are now I mean is it's
it's like this trick where we play this
intense game and and in a way you got to
see it as as a game because you know
we're not we're we're spirits
we're souls in a body we're not a body
trapped in a assault you know what I
mean you ever hear oh yeah definitely
yeah yeah what and and we're we're not
here to help when I hear that I mean
it'd be nice to have a good nice income
you know but we're spiritually we're
here to to beyond
our egos where we're hearing like I'm
maybe I'm doing a terrible job maybe I'm
doing a terrible job mm-hmm but you you
still gotta keep you keep at it you know
you you know what there's people who are
very wealthy and they're not happy no so
it's like what is what's on your day to
day consciousness what are you repeating
the thoughts you know that's where the
warrior focuses that's where the wealth
is that's well fizzes you know it's an
illusion that it's like what do you feel
and I I would want people to do the same
to me I would want people to smack me
around and wake me up
you know it's we're not you know I know
that I don't know yeah I have no idea
but awakenings is is very important know
like to myself I still need to be
awakened other people need to be
awakened we we want we drive for
something that's out of the ordinary
it's a it's an awakening and awakening
and I mean we
I like that yet you know I mean we're
not to seek oases we seek but then we're
always in a state of searching for
deeper meaning and then we get stuck
another thing is to realize that we're
already there you know we already have
everything we need
yeah you need nothing outside yourself
you already have everything within
that's what I like about the Scriptures
the Bible talks about the Kingdom of
Heaven being within you and it lets you
know that you don't need anything that
anybody is selling you you already have
all the tools everything you need to go
within
to experience whatever you want you know
what I'm saying to have that joy you
don't need something outside of you to
compete reminder that's what it is and
we feel I mean in its it's like we're
kind of working against this system
that's art that's setup because they're
they present items and clothing and
stuff like hey do you need this this
will make you you know feel happy and
then once you you buy that stuff or that
stuff calls out to you because of
programming because of advertising you
get it you feel good right when you get
it and then an hour later to it you like
why did I buy that I just wasted money
on this or whatever the case is but it's
- its - it's the the knowledge of self
and being okay and knowing that you
already have everything that you need
like nothing is gonna complete you
nothing outside of yourself is gonna
complete you right yes and anyway what I
what I do is it's like a reminder mm-hmm
so so in a way Awakening is kind of like
it's reminding you of everything you
just said right now you know you you
have you have you know you don't need
anything you have exactly you have it
you've dealt with them probably every
emotion under the spectrum you know what
I'm saying out there performing doing
what you do you've had people want to
fight you you've had people in tears
you've had people all types of stuff
talk a little bit about like the
best-case scenario versus the worst-case
scenario and I know you've probably
experienced majority of it you've been
harassed by the cops you've been
harassed by drug addicts and things like
that talk a little bit about some of
those crazy experiences that have
happened well you know there is just
part of the the day-to-day yeah as far
as day to day comes with the territory
I mean the best moment is is people
interact and they're laughing and
and they're crying in a way and then the
worst is someone froze someone free like
this
they had a cop of some nasty liquid and
they threw it up and that that kind of
sucks because it was kind of cold out
but um or you know sometimes people are
watching me and they're it's almost like
they they feel bad you know that's good
I realize all those reactions are good
because it it's better than you know
here we are we're in our reality it's
better than doing nothing you know like
don't you know don't wake up don't live
and then just interact like find a way
to find you you're neat way to interact
with the world because it's it's it's
the interactions it's that they because
what I do it's not about me it's about
the world around me like you you as an
individual you are okay we're one
there's a new thing that I say I have a
sign that says we are all one there's
only you which means that if there is
only you then everything you know you
are basically you are creating the world
I mean your everything your God your the
non everything that's not God your fear
your luck but you're you're you're
creating it and if you don't see that
power that you have it like and again
the reminder if you don't see that power
that you have
it's very weird because you can't
comprehend it inside your Infiniti you
can't comprehend it but how could you be
everything how could you be everything
and then how could you be everything
that the answer is because you and me
there's we're one we're one who it's
almost like we're we're God right now
talking to ourselves do you know what I
mean yeah um we're not separate like
this is this is like there's there's
this thing in our brain that forgets who
we are and then but we're we're not
separate we're talking to ourselves but
maybe I'm not I'll shut up now what do
you have to say eerily similar to Jim
Carrey and what he's going around
talking about now like he's we're all
one and and we're all Adams and all of
this stuff and like just just stepping
away from the identity and the persona
and a legacy of something that that he's
had and had all of this this wealth and
stuff in life and finding out that that
stuff doesn't make you happy it's about
showing up it's about doing what you
love no matter what that is he gets to
do what he loves and very similar to
what he's saying and a lot of people are
saying the same thing a lot of people
are having you know these spiritual
awakenings these conscious awakenings of
who they are that we are all connected
we are all God experiencing itself
there's a notion that we are all one
body one people I mean I have the tattoo
of the flower of life and that's
essentially what that means we are all
connected um everyone is another form of
you experiencing themselves and so when
you see someone lashing out when you see
someone who's having a hard time coping
like the compassion for them it is
because you feel like it's yourself
going through that I mean even people
who are like very empathic you can feel
like the
the different emotions and stuff that
people are going through because you've
felt that way before being empathic and
having a heart for those people and
maybe in a sense as well we like you
have a heart for people who can't break
that she'll I think deep down there's a
kid and all of us who want to laugh who
want to dance and do some of the things
that when you know when they say you
perform it on the street and those
people get into it but how many of the
people want to do that and but they
can't break this out and they just walk
on but they're like on the cusp on the
verge has a blop Oh has there been
people who like they see you on their
commute and then eventually they just
they eventually join in yeah yeah that
happens I mean that yeah that I mean
eventually they see you and I mean a lot
of it also is they want to be
comfortable with this person they want
to know that when I first started I mean
people thought I was maybe you have
money you like I don't want your money
take it back dancing yeah oh no I mean I
always had you know I'm not gonna I
always had a bucket or something yeah I
don't ask her money but if yeah people
fine I mean I'm not earning down yeah
it's almost rude to turn it down because
they know they're giving it out the only
way they know how to express love to
give something yeah it's a comment in
the chat right now someone by the name
of a bloodsport says Matt I see you
every day at Union Square dancing wacky
dancing Matt that's me you dancing man I
mean talk to you about this because like
I've seen the connection with people who
like our spiritual healers and they're
in a spiritual movement they're trying
to bring about healing to humanity in
the ways that they know how and one
thing that myself and a few other people
who I've talked to had in common is that
growing up in school
we were the class clowns like we always
wanted to see people laugh because
there's like a magic that happens man
when you can people I love bring I'll do
I mean I'm I'm essentially wacky dancing
Matt at home with my family
I have these silly dances and things I
and so to see the smile upon my family's
face to you know to keep this I never a
dull moment you know what I'm saying
like we're always the energy that's
released when people are enjoying
themselves and and even you're the one
facilitating that there's a there's like
a gratification that comes that you're
making their day or their experience a
little bit easier and bringing joy to
people's faces what did you can you
experience that at all was you was you
the class clown or would you like that
in school telling jokes making people
laugh doing little silly things when the
teacher wasn't looking and stuff like
that yeah I was I was a class clown I
was I I mean I did to sing during gym
intersession where they would change the
classes at gym and on the on the
bleachers um everybody would just sit
the one for one day until they changed
all their classes and they would sit for
like 30 minutes and so one day I got up
and I performed in front of them you
know and the teachers let it happen and
everybody was into it so I mean I I was
it I could say I was a scared class
clown because I didn't always come out
you know yeah I didn't always come out
but um I always had it in me I mean it
took a while for me to do this stuff in
the street I had I didn't really start
doing it until I was like 25 26 you know
but they always had it in me to start
doing it when I was maybe 17 or 16 I you
know I I did things
things I guess the thing I did in the
bleachers at high school I mean the
thing is I I performed in front of those
bleachers the only reason I did that was
because um some kids they they said I'll
give you what if you flex your muscles
in front of in front of these girls or
whatever so I started doing that and
then I needed a an excuse you know money
yeah it's just weird like the excuse I
don't do money it's just like it's just
like a lot of times when I perform on
the street and I'm not making a lot of
money people say you're stupid you know
making any money why would you be doing
that it's just like that gets me why
would you need any excuse to do anything
for money
my Jess we need money I get it when you
all [Â __Â ] need money you know but why
do you need excuse to do what you love
why are we in that low grade of
unconscious behavior yeah you need to
rip off your skin and do you know not to
hide your [Â __Â ] self you know and
that's what we're all in a way more or
less we're dealing with like oh I need
to make money in order to be a lackey a
lackey guy yeah yeah no no people are
gonna be inspired by your anything that
has nothing to do with money but then
you know then we have then we have hell
and Satan we have Trump no what the [Â __Â ]
is all that we still have a large
percentage of as big as the percentage
of population as has reached a level of
Awakening and unconsciousness we have we
have the other half which is a large
percent of the population that's asleep
and now give a [Â __Â ] you know maybe it's
because in a pollution maybe it's
because of all the bad food that
everybody's eating and stuff you know
you don't feel you so you don't feel
connected to what
- what's going on I don't know maybe the
religion yeah yeah really keeps you
trapped you know religion is not
spirituality it's a it's a dogma it's a
hold you know it takes what an
enlightened person like Jesus spoke and
then puts it in a rulebook what Jesus
didn't want the rulebook
you can't ask for the Bible or the well
there is again they're like you said
your sign the lightning things from the
Bible just but then when you make a
whole wrong and right because in true
spirituality there's no wrong or right
for anything that you're doing in the
world so you should you got it like it's
good that you have that but you had to
take that and create something new with
it you know you're everybody's a
visionary good man um what are like uh
so whenever you go downtown and you
perform I think that that characters are
part of you right it's a little bit
that's all it's something that's already
within you and you just get to let it
out
a little bit more than others in this a
performance as well as our to it in
things because you're playing you're
totally playing the character but how is
it um how hard or easy is it or was it
to kind of turn it off and on and jump
in the character and what happens when
you go in the character do you feel like
a different person I mean what yeah I'd
say you know I'm basically when I'm in
character I'm basically I'm follows like
channeling a little bit essentially like
you're letting this person you like have
your body and and be this like the
thought process changes everything
change you become this crazy person on
the street like you become that you're
not acting you you're not a crazy person
but spiritual person and I I'm not
trying to push any beliefs on anybody
I'm just trying to see who's gonna
interact and I mean I mean it's just
interact or or change consciousness or
wake up or now you know now I splurt out
some messages like that you know that
can be hard for people to grasp like
like like I said we are all one there's
only you love is all there is which is a
hard you know it's a concept but there's
um behind the energy of creation is love
you know it's just like it's like a glue
that mm-hmm
I don't know that's that's hard to like
prove but I you know I believe I believe
oh yeah I mean I also believe that it's
just like we've created this unconscious
fear energy its unconscious its
unconscious that the planet is I war
with each other's I'm conscious that
people put each other down and
discourage each other you know it's it's
unconscious you know it this much of the
planet has grown unconsciously you know
it's not and then so it's almost like we
have to in order to evolve we already we
have to make a conscious decision to
create more love in the world and then
again it's not about me it's not about
you it's you know it's not about you
it's about what you're putting out there
and and and then it reflects back to you
right you know love you know it's a big
mirror this is a mirror I put out this
good energy into the world and it you
know it's it's come back to me it's come
back to me so I'm inspired to put out
even more you know cuz it's working and
it's just like this it's a it's a
beautiful cycle and uh and like I said I
think that it encourages other people
to do the same thing with their art with
their creativity when you see someone
else thriving in being authentic doing
what they love you don't I'm saying that
for me it was huge I would I mean and
there's so many different examples that
I could use of whether they're hip-hop
artists and they do what they love for a
living they wake up and they get to do
it yoga teachers spiritual leaders like
versus being stuck in this other place
playing this other role that you don't
want to play like whether you know for
me I was I played the role of a truck
driver for over 10 years at a particular
job I didn't want to play that role I
like I learned while I was there I
studied and and it pushed me towards
like making that leap of faith to do
what I want for sonica obviously if you
had something that long and you have
that much time and a truck truck driver
you're stuck in this box with your own
thoughts for 1215 hours a day thinking
of the things that you want to be doing
that you're not doing and then when you
would see videos like yours or listen to
podcast similar to this one it's like
man it can be done other people are
doing it and it's like it's like it's
like the okay that it can be done it's
something that that that you can try or
essentially the permission I think that
you live in your life and it's working
and you're doing what you love is
permission I even say that sometimes
I'll do I'll I'll say look you have my
permission to follow your heart you know
if that's what people are looking for
like they're looking around like it
might the only one that's gonna jump now
you have my permission do what you were
called to do it's debatable but I guess
we have one life to do it why would you
get to the end of the rope and say man I
wish I would have did that I wish I
would have pursued my dreams and
followed my intuition follow my gut but
I had to play this role because my
family wouldn't have understood me they
wouldn't have agreed with it whatever
the case is I have this these
conversations with friends who now I'm
the envy to them man I wish I was doing
what you're doing look it you can it's a
process what do you want to do let's
let's take this
together I want to help you and in and
so you're you being you I don't think
there's any other formula you're just
doing what you know to do what you love
to do with right what drives you it
moves people to jealousy it moves them
to want to do it but it's a good thing
like I don't think it's a bad thing it
moves them to evaluate to set itself and
they you know what what led me here and
how can I get out of it - do what
Matthews doing a true Seco whoever the
cases so that's the power in the magic
of just being authentic and not you know
you have the persona stuff but just not
playing those roles or a wasting time
doing this other type of stuff it's
magic in that yes was that people for
you that that did you look at people and
I mean we under we all have inspirations
of whether it was performers or
spiritual leaders or whatever the cases
was there people that you looked at that
kind of said you know what I can do this
or this person getting you know would
would kind of help me restore my power
to think that it's possible I mean I
think all this the spiritual gurus and
stuff are essentially talking a little
bit about this ya know it's like you
said I didn't believe him myself in in
the beginning but you know I was yeah I
was always inspired by Andy Kaufman
Alejandro Jodorowsky just a lot of you
know a lot of comedians and stuff and
and I I always wanted to do something in
front make a lot of people laugh until
it hurt you know but then you know then
in this stage of the world it's like now
doing something like because it feels
like we're at the verge of the tipping
point you know like the the where the
planet can go really bad you know
yeah and so to me like what's really
important is the real conscious
awakening a conscious so awakening you
know to reminder that you know so that
that's what inspires also you know you
know else we didn't talk about but often
you um you know whatever you're doing on
this planet is going to help everybody
you know so the permission that we don't
really need but we we need we need
somebody to say it sometimes right you
by you following your heart you're
helping out everybody you know people
don't see it that way but the majority
of this planet is not following their
heart yeah majority of this planet is
building an unconscious tumor you know a
a massive cancer that just grows and
that's in a way it's like metaphorical
everybody's getting cancer and stuff and
it's just like it's it's producing cells
dead cells that don't mean anything that
doesn't mmm but but if you think
something that's inspiring other people
that the real energy you know I mean
that's now that's the fulfillment that
you get out of following your dream even
if you don't achieve it even buying
exactly being on that journey to where
you feel like your life has purpose the
fulfillment that you get from that
outweighs being stuck in the truck for
10 years building someone else's dream
essentially somebody had that idea
somebody put that energy or put that
money up and created this business that
now I'm
falling in pies let's just say that that
person who drove the truck for maybe
it's not even a dream maybe it's like
well I got to make money and I want to
make as much money as it's their default
but it just happened to have a better
hand than my default yeah that might
have even been its uninspiring that they
were probably bad to you were they bad
to you as workers and stuff like they
didn't they just saw you as a tool or
something yeah you come out your
commodity you're replaceable you know
that's what I mean like a machine could
do your job
Yeah right it's a tumor it's like you
were working for something that didn't
have anything to do with a dream right
mm-hmm
that's what most people are working for
they're working for there's nothing it's
like it's gonna build all this stuff but
nobody's gonna want any of it duction
right yeah oh yeah yeah it's a artist
it's it's like oh we got to make a lot
of money so the best way to do is mass
production but then we use a lot of
people it's it's it's it's hurting you
know it's it's I don't know you know I'm
sorry yeah it's hurting us all you know
have you read The Alchemist oh yeah yes
really good really good as far as like
recapturing your dream and uh we talked
to somebody yesterday about you know
recapturing your dreams some people
never had a dream you know data and so
it's like you know finding your dream to
begin with like they didn't never have
that and that inspiration to do this so
this is my life goal most of us are kind
of going about recapturing what we want
it to be when we were kids like it was
always there you know what I'm saying
yeah some people are like trying to find
out their purpose and what they're
supposed to be doing now they they
haven't had never had that that
revelation of this is what they're
missing out on you know what I'm saying
until yeah I think for some people that
comes later in life too yes sometimes
they say the age of is like 50 that's
the age of like enlightenment you know
yeah it's when you yeah go ahead fellas
but just remember man just you know kind
of coming even in tears man just like
thinking about you you know like what
age should you give up on your dreams
like if you were supposed to look at
like you got to be a productive member
of society raise a family those type of
things so do you give up on your dream
because I have people who say like okay
now that you have kids like it's time to
to invest in their dreams you know
you're done like those typer
you know I'm saying what age when do you
finally say okay you know what it didn't
work out let me let me drive this truck
with all my mind or whatever the case is
I have friends who who were in that they
still have that inward feeling they have
kids I have a daughter and as well wow
you got a daughter yeah and so to be
able to do that so you have there can't
be I think the risks are a little bit
different too you know every move kind
of has to be calculated when you have a
lot more riding on it like you know what
I'm saying and I have people who have
kids and they want to do what you're
doing they want to do what I'm doing
like you know that it poses a bigger
problem and it makes you sit there like
it's a set they're in tears like when do
you give up on it like [Â __Â ] it's just
the age like so give it another year
when do I get and just when I didn't
give up then it it started working you
know I'm saying I'm moving past that
it's a-okay strategically how can we
make this work is it something feasible
can I keep the lights on you know what
I'm saying those type of things man and
it becomes this inward struggle you know
yeah having a lot riding on it makes it
a little bit harder to jump because
you're not just jumping by yourself you
got a kid on your back you know and yeah
yeah are you still with your wife where
yeah yeah we're still together yeah
you're jumping with the whole family
yeah yeah yeah I mean that's amazing I
don't you know I don't have kids no so I
don't you know I still but I'll have
people telling them like you should give
up
people who were living their dream I got
a buddy of mine owns a flow tank shop
right awesome awesome dude and he's he
loves what he's doing and yeah
isolation ah yeah sensory deprivation
tanks
oh no yeah he owns a shop in New Orleans
and and he told a buddy of mine who's
like you said you just gotta give up man
you know you got kids your toms come and
gone you know you just need to give up
on your dream and I don't think that's
fair you know what I'm saying I think
that there's ways to make it work you
know even if you have to do without you
have to provide like there's that sense
of being a provide provider there as a
as a father but there's still ways to me
I think there's still little things that
you and this is just what works for me
there's little things daily that you can
do while you're driving on that job
there's emails there's when the kids are
asleep or whatever there's things you
can do to kind of put that brick in
building that that that dream and that
what you want to do it it's working for
me you know but it wasn't easy you know
and I don't think people should give up
on it though you know
right no well see there there's the
thing like you are enlightened in this
way because I mean I'm not enlightened
in that way you know you you would know
because you're your experience yeah do
it but you but you're setting the
example that's why it's so important to
have God you know split up and and
different but you're gonna inspire other
people you're yeah like what you just
said I'm sorry you said in the example
mm-hmm which is by following your dream
you're enlightening other people yep
that's how it works and like I said just
just showing up being authentic sure
yeah 100% is showing up yes and being
consistent and uh even with this podcast
I talk about all the time like there was
times where like as I've been doing this
a long time but it's it's only been
probably the past year where it was
consistent you know what I'm saying
where every week you know you're gonna
get multiple shows a week I'm gonna be
here we're gonna you know versus like
okay we did one show this month and then
the next show we did next months we did
two shows and it was just sporadic
whenever I felt like it whenever I had
the time versus when I whenever I made
time and took it to the next level and
then I think would consistency man
people you know it it it's a sense of
comfort of consistent especially when
were coming from a place where there's
people don't have much consistency in
their lives they need someone to show up
they need someone to be there whether
you're doing a podcast whether you
you're the guy who makes people laugh in
the streets like this is what you do you
show you're showing up doing what you
love man and it brings healing to the to
the to the planet it brings inspiration
to people inspiration and creativity man
like that means something else that
means something different to each person
but if you can inspire them to do that
inspire them to create something good
something beautiful something wonderful
it especially creating something that
didn't exist whether it's some some form
of art usually you know and you have
you've always have the term of the
starving artists you know what I'm
saying people in and that would just let
you know that look it's gonna be a
sacrifice but it can be done you know
yeah it's it's better to struggle and do
what you love rather than struggle and
yeah do it - hey yeah yeah most people
are struggling its struggling in both
situations anyway yes
you're gonna end up struggling in either
situation anyway you're you and you have
to be awakened to point the the truth
that you have a choice in any situation
you just have to like build a an
awareness to it you have to take you
know you have to get to know inside you
know what I mean you have to communicate
with your mm-hmm inner God whatever your
inner child God or whatever you want to
call you have to commune
Kate and and you like bad bad energy is
like guilt feeling guilty like I'm not
worthy doubting doubting is it's okay to
have some healthy doubt but yeah like
bad negative doubt like I'm not or
getting discouraged or you know it's
true what they say is like we have you
ever heard like fears illusion
yeah yeah also evidence of pain really
yeah
what I think it's a false evidence
appearing real
son like that fear f.e.a.r or but that's
really cool but you know fears illusion
and and and love is the only thing
that's real that means you make them you
know that if you're making the moves to
create something that's good inside of
you but it's also inspiring others you
can't go wrong you know you you have a
knowing that you're you you if you're on
it if you're on a path of soul you know
that it that something you know what I
mean mmm-hmm if you're on a path of I
don't know this has no soul it's just
about stuff or getting from A to B or
you know it's nothing to do with the
process mm-hmm then you're you're you're
stuck yeah there's like you said there's
those healthy healthy fears you know and
healthy doubt at times but it's it's the
fear of failing that some people have
that they can't get past like they would
rather not try because they don't want
to fail the fear of rejection a lot of
those people who I've had conversations
with it's not that they're they're not
fearing that they're not gonna make
money or something but there there's
people who fear of what other people are
gonna think about them you know that
part of moving past that I mean that's
totally something you've had to do
you get a little bit of everything
though but but the the stamp of approval
that people are looking for from their
even their families you know nobody
gives it to you and they're they're
already talking about you anyway those
family members who you know so have
rather them talk about you while you're
doing what you love and it's working for
you and you have this motivation to show
up versus them talking about you're
looking down upon you in your default
state you just show you're just there
and they're talking about you like
they're talking about your regardless
you know and they have they have
opinions and stuff like that and you
can't be moved by you can't find your
you're worse you can't be moved by the
acceptance of others I mean if that's
the case then then you know we're gonna
be stuck but if it is that if it is the
case for some people looking for that
approval to do it hears us telling you
to do it you know you have our
permission to follow your dreams and
follow your heart and you you can do it
man anyone can we're not I don't think
we're special I don't think that there's
like oh there's only a few people who
can do it like I've thought about that
in the past right only a few people get
to follow their dream that's that that
fear and doubt that came to me not
everybody can do it
I have kids now I have this you know my
time is come and gone I think I moved to
pass that and I'm doing it and I think
that everybody can do that if they
follow you know I believe in we're
talking about how spirituality applies
to all this I believe in universal laws
I believe in you know manifesting things
through thought and in through love and
through confessing it and speaking it
out and things like that and I've seen
that come come to play in my life so
it's not like I'm chosen or special I
think we're all chosen and special and
we all have the same abilities we all
share the same 24 hours in a day like we
all have that and so what we do with
that time those people I've had that
conversation who they say true seeker I
want to do what you're doing and one day
I'm gonna do it like I wanted to believe
them but I'll tell them like it's
practical like you have to do something
today
you have to plan
take that seed put it in the ground
today for it to sprout a week from now
two weeks from now then the next thing
you got to water it you may have to
cultivate that ground you may have to
dig up some of that hard dirt and get
the clay out of there and put some soil
in it like you have to do something
today in order for some manifest
tomorrow you don't just like dream about
it and think about it that's one thing I
believe in getting the vision but
there's practical steps man and doing
what you love for a living and I taught
spirituality into it that's how it
worked for me and that's how its
continuing to work of the spiritual
practices of love and gratitude and
helping others along the way like it
goes so far to know that so to know the
spiritual power of you showing up like
we had the conversation now people are
going to be conscious and aware that
okay this person is doing what they're
what they love like there's a spiritual
connection there because they're doing
what what they love to do and that money
can't buy that you can't like there's
nothing you can trade me to do that
whether it's all the wealth in the world
or all the riches in the world to go to
a job and do things that I don't want to
do like you wouldn't do that in a
relationship with somebody want to take
somebody out on a date and take
advantage of them and make them do
things they wouldn't want to do so why
would you base your entire life living
for the approval of others and you doing
things outside of your character that
you know you shouldn't be doing
you never do a business deal like that
you never take orders from somebody to
to be to make you feel less of a person
but we're doing it every day we got to
break free from that mold man yeah man
yeah it's it's empowering man I thank
you for for showing up I thank you for
being consistent doing what you're doing
your videos have inspired me and I'm
sitting here reading in the chat I know
you can't see the chat but there's tons
of people just saying we love you
Matthew Matthew silver is a very special
person love what he's doing to shift
perceptions just tons of comments of
people just just thanking you for doing
what you're doing
so uh thank you Manfred for doing what
you do and thank you for spending this
time with me on here yeah oh we can keep
going
I don't why we can keep going we don't
have a certain time it's up to you I
don't I didn't know I didn't know where
you are yeah I mean that's it I mean
it's a it's about I mean that was
beautiful what you just said yeah hope
it inspires somebody man cause it's it's
it's it's podcasting wow so it's like
that that inspired me you know hearing
other people talk about makings me what
you just said awakens me yeah there's
people who have the answers but they
want to keep it to themselves you know
like how those people exist - yeah cuz
they're scared to lose it like wah wah
wah
why why are we losing that's we have
this illusion that we're gonna lose
something yeah a following
you know notoriety someone off yeah yeah
there's people there's people afraid of
that there's people who would tell you
to you know don't listen to true seeker
because you know you're gonna have this
in word you're gonna have this inward
desire you're not probably not gonna
after a rant like that or or you know an
ayahuasca ceremony like you're gonna go
to what you're probably gonna be
depressed when you go to work when you
hittin that truck you know this an
inward desire like man I gotta I gotta
do something you you you're not gonna be
you're not gonna feel complete unless
you do it that's what happened to me you
know and and it's it brought a
depression I don't know if you've ever
experimented with psychedelics or
psilocybin or ayahuasca or anything that
kind of goes hand in hand with some
people's version of spirituality but uh
I think there's a form of depression
that kind of can come with that I know
it cures depression heals depression but
I'm approaching it from a way that it
will make you depressed if you go to the
edge of reality and you find out that
you're you're not you
job and you're not fulfilled or defined
by what other people say about you and
you are the universe experience in
itself and then you show up and then
you're going to clock in at some place
that you loathe to be like the debts
that causes depression but it's a
healthy thing that that's a no wait like
yeah the awakening yeah you're
absolutely right so it's another level
of it
do you awakening and to see that you
have been sleeping and you see that you
have choices here and there and I mean
just take out your journal and see where
where you have all this
how do you plan do you plan with visuals
or note-taking I've got I've got a board
my big sheet of paper written down with
all my goals on it and their
spirituality and practicing just simply
writing your goals down and achieving
them and and speaking them and thinking
about them and uh and then so you have
to be consistent with them though like
you have to show up and uh yeah I just
wanna you've been saying show up a lot
and I mean they can't see the video
right yeah those who can't we'll explain
what we're looking at yeah I just want
to read my mission statement so on the
top of it I said a hundred percent is
showing up now you know mm-hmm
I just I find it cool that you tell it
you keep telling me it's about showing
up yeah and then I wrote we are shifting
the planet to love consciousness with
the gift of love love is all there is we
are all one
there is only you love yourself know who
you really are and choose who you wish
to be you know I am one love awaken now
and I choose to be the greatest version
of one love awaken now so it is true and
then I wrote a hundred percent of show
now but yeah I mean it's very yeah I'm
deciding were you taught you have to
take those steps towards it you know I'm
saying and and have it I think that I'll
talk about like confession and stuff and
having those ideas like ever a lot of
people have the dream whether you want
to be a basketball player or a football
player or you want to be a comedian or a
podcaster like you can have that vision
or that dream or that imagination that
it would be good but until you confess
it and then you start doing things and
like speaking it out my big thing was on
it on a psilocybin encounter of magic
mushrooms or whatever I had a thing
where we're just kind of going in to get
vision and and I and I visited a friend
of somebody was a friend of mine now but
it she's a Reiki practitioner
and she does what she loves for a living
she heals people through spirituality
and spiritual practice for a living and
that was one of those things too so I
went and seen her then we did the
psilocybin encounter and this I had this
huge drive within me to like man I want
to be a healer I want to do what she's
doing like I want to heal people for a
living and be like I'm having this
communion with God and myself and it's
like no no no you already are you're not
you don't want to be or one day you'll
be a healer you already are and then if
I begin to see different things that I
do in life whether it's you know
spiritual practice or just my music you
know understand these things that are
healing people
and it's something not that something
outside of yourself like we're talking
about a one day I'm gonna be a healer
one day I'm gonna be this or that I
already am and yeah to know that it's
already within you it's already within
you that for me was the permission I
wasn't looking at the approval or one
day I will be granted to become a healer
I'll look at the ways I'm already
healing humanity and and people do
conversation and connecting people and
all of this stuff and that was like the
permission as well you know that it's
already within us and uh
there were gold things that were written
down there were goals you know in that
experience that I knew that is like a
game plan or a map on how to achieve it
you know in those conscious moments of
meditation or prayer of Salah you know
solitude and that's important that's I
think that's turning off the default
though to like we have to like focus on
the now moment we put our consciousness
sometimes so far ahead of ourselves and
and I'm guilty of this in the past and
even now if I'm not careful my mind will
be set from event to event like I'll
have a concert coming up and weeks and
days will go by where my mind is only
thinking about I can't wait to this
concert I can't wait to this and now
it'll make it where I'm not in the
moment consciously creating aware of
everything beautiful around me whether
it's family whether it's friends whether
it's just the trees and the air and
breath and things like that because our
consciousness is so far ahead of
ourselves and it's about coming to that
now moment whether it's done through a
psychedelic or meditation or breathing a
reading you know stargazing all of this
others so many different practices man
that helped us to be mindful about our
life our thoughts and what we're trying
to create and always though those are
the things that I tell people like
that's what I'm doing and it worked like
it helps you to be mindful of the the
choices and decisions that you're making
to achieve the dreams they're not
nobody's gonna hand it to you you know
what I'm saying like nobody's gonna do
it but I think you you owe it to
humanity and you you owe it to like you
said the beginning what's the most
important thing yourself like you know
that that's going to make you happy to
wake up and perform everyday or wake up
and do have a beautiful conversation
with someone that's gonna help change
lives and inspire people like the man
there's there's no words to really
describe it the situation I was at six
months ago to where I am now it's like
those dreams like I'm doing what I love
for a living I'm living my dream right
now you don't say and it's not like done
this is the beginning you know we're
just building up upon it and I think
that
there's if you're consistent to follow
like here's here's my Sheila's pretty
crumpled uh [Â __Â ] you keep it up under me
but I have my sheet here to with with
the goals and the things and in my
wallet I have the goals written down
from the psilocybin encounter things I
need to change about myself like look if
you want to go to this next level you
have to look you have to quit doing this
you have to quit doing that I would
smoke cigars to help pass the time in
the truck I help keep me awake because I
would you know get tired and stuff so
instead of you know taking a bunch of
nutters I would take I would either chew
gum or smoke smoke a cigar and it would
be like so many hours like look you
can't do that you gotta quit smoking
cigars if you want to go to this next
level and it's just this helpful
evaluation with God and yourself and I
have you have you ever had a uh
spiritually kind of like that with
psilocybin or ayahuasca and that's a big
thing right now a lot of people are
taking Amazon and stuff I've done
ceremony tumblr to that like this
self-discovery or going within and yeah
it's about like it's your you get to
hear your all your voices for me it was
just like all the illusions they were
coming up like hmm you know like
negative and positive it was all it was
all like I would I'd got to see this
cycle a little bit differently like you
got to see the stuff you needed to
change too right yes stop those cycles
that are negative and stuff and how and
how to facilitate the beautiful things
that are happening and yes yeah I
haven't done anything
yeah you don't never helpful when when
they I feel like they're they're they're
very helpful when you're doing it for
spiritual reasons but if you're doing it
for Japan fine already I I've seen
people just do it
raves and yeah and and then you know the
one thing I don't like is like that they
to go to these reason there's they're
blasting this huge speakers that sound
like it's drilling oil and stuff and and
and you don't you know the the the
hallucinogenic is so it gives you time
to think and be within and then yeah
it's music that's controlling yeah it's
it's it's infiltrating your brain in a
way you know what I mean I think the but
this is just my opinion the best way to
do that is you know you're with positive
friends and you're in you're in nature
ya know everybody everybody has the same
kind of goal in mind to do it I've had
I've had those friends who we've done
them together and have beautiful and it
was a bunch of guys probably it was like
maybe five or six of us and we went out
and we we got a cabin I don't know in
the forest and we did that and man
amazing breakthrough just on psilocybin
mushrooms but uh but it was really
strong like it felt like ayahuasca that
you left your body type stuff but you
got the revelation on your life and what
to do and how to do it and you feel like
you're communing with something what we
call God or an angelic and angels and
stuff it was really deep and uh and then
the next week my friends are like hey
I'm ready to do it again my bro I just
wrote down this big list of things that
I'm doing this strategically and they're
like man that was fun when I'm doing it
again sigh bro I wrote all it's gonna
take me a while to process this
information that come that came through
and they wanted to cut an eight want to
do it like a like a party drug now and
um I told no I'm not doing this it may
be six months maybe a year I mean I'd
ever do it and now I'm okay with that
but right because this experience was so
it was so powerful for me I had to write
everything down cuz all the information
that came through then they go out and
do it the next week in a different
environment and a party environment with
friends who were just wanting to get
high and have a good time you know he
goes through the middle of it
we did it in a secluded in the forest he
goes in the middle of the suburbs
neighbors everywhere they have music
blaring all the way up with the door
wide open so they're afraid that
someone's gonna call the cops and
they're on this hallucinogenic and and
he's in the bathroom crying freaking out
you know and they're playing like
demonic sounding music that has given
him visuals and stuff and it was like
night and day so like the set and
setting is like you have to respect that
stuff man you really get respect to
stuff like some people all respect it I
mean a lot of people don't respect it
but you like you say you got what you
needed you got what you needed to know
yeah you don't have to go back there
again you got what you need and now like
that that's another problem with our
world we take these are granted to it's
it's just like you know you got what you
needed to know and you moving forward
with that you know
yep that's what it's about in like
meditation you know the same the same
type of thing is this about being
mindful and whatever you have to do to
kind of do that I think that's part of
the day-to-day and and that sometimes
escapes us you know sometimes it's they
said it's easy to kind of even though
I've got all these goals and listings
sometimes you don't feel like it like
there's things you have to do to kind of
motivate yourself to just stick that
path out consistency is big with me
because like maybe you can relate to
this to been talking about this a lot
like being a person with like being very
creative and having all of these ideas
I'm sure you have other I've seen
different skits and stuff that you do
and you kind of got to write out the
script and stuff to perform them being
very creative it's easy to get
sidetracked because you have all these
really cool ideas and you can create and
you can do it you can spend time and
energy on it but then to do that it
would take away from the other stuff
people who are very creative like myself
I do music I do a podcast I just started
making making beats I'm a father I got a
husband all kind of stuff to do
and if I start venturing into the other
stuff they're really great ideas awesome
good ideas if we start venturing into
that the other stuffs gonna suffer
because we have ourselves just kind of
spread out all over the place but but
being consistent with what you know is
working and for the things you're trying
to build if you want to see growth in it
you have this you have to show up you
have to water you have to cultivate the
land you have to water the the seed and
the plan you have to take the weeds out
from around it that's a it's essentially
a full-time job but can you relate to
that at all is there other great ideas
that you know that maybe you probably
could be successful at they could even
help people they're good ideas but you
don't have enough hours in the day to do
that and just do what you're doing
because it's working as you know just
being consistent to show up do you feel
that that inward dilemma as well being
up someone who's just like living in the
land of creativity yeah I mean I really
like going out on the street and and and
performing and stuff but then you know
you have this whole other thing like
social media right yeah but postal media
is nothing about what I do on the street
it's not you know what I mean it the
social media just takes pictures and and
then another part of me says oh maybe I
want to get really good at social media
making short little videos Lesure little
funny videos and then that's I mean
that's another thing I could become I
could become a short little video maker
you know exact make the little funny you
be successful at it yeah and be
successful at it and and there's a
there's there's a pullet part of my mind
because and then the other thing that I
like doing is I like performing at night
at venues so that that pulls it like you
can only do so much you can only do so
much very well so it's either I do the
thing during the day consistently or I
either do the night menu thing and you
know build up
context for letting meteor for eight or
I build up the the video small video
thing on social media you know you can
you could create a big audience with
that if you wanted to yeah I mean that's
what you're using social media right
yeah me drop I mean
networking you know all of that stuff
you know but then you get you get
conflicted and you're like oh I should
do it all I should do it all I get
conflicted because like I have a lot of
people who reach out to me and and I
interview people a lot like I don't know
if it's a confidence thing or what but I
don't I usually don't go live by myself
a lot and just ramble part of me thinks
that I can't but I've done it before and
it's been good I have a lot of people
who want me to do that I have some
guests on here people are like I don't
like that guy at all I don't like what
he's bringing to the table but I enjoy
you doing your thing so that's my
conflict as well too it's like well you
know I'm networking with these people
right now I'm tapping into Matthew
Silver's fanbase and people were gonna
look up his name these type of things
and and and people who are really big
who have come on on the show and they'll
tweet out the episode or whatever and it
gets thousands of views or whatever it's
part of networking I've built my
platform over the years even with music
like I featured a big name artists that
I've paid and now all their fans are
fans of me because we've networked
together but part of that like now that
I have a platform people are like well
you should I would rather it be just you
I don't people are like I don't like a
lot of your your guests you know but I
love everything you share so that's a
conflict for me you know of like you
know if I should do that or maybe do
both or whatever the case is and now
that like that for just keep going you
know yeah I mean you should do it you
should just I don't know yeah I mean you
could em you know you make the pinpoints
of why you're gonna talk about this if
this is the next step mm-hmm if you've
had it I mean it it seems like that's
where you're going you're gonna just
talk to you you to the people enjoy the
conversation you're very I enjoy the
conversation too though
cuz I don't for me like this spiritual
conversation doesn't happen too much in
my day-to-day life you know I come from
a religious background and then I would
I would do these huh like I was a
Christian evangelist I did Christian
hip-hop music and share my stories at
hundreds of churches over the years you
know and yeah so then now what I'm doing
this in and this opens up were like I'll
talk a lot about aliens and UFO
experiences in ayahuasca and stuff like
that so when I started doing that and
still being in the church but I wouldn't
go to church and talk about that or I
wouldn't go to meetings or be around
Church people and talk about they would
they would see the podcast and then they
would really hey you know they they
would tell people to stay away from me
and avoid me and stuff like that so holy
[Â __Â ]
rightfully so though rightfully so you
know what I'm saying if you have a
religious institution and you got this
guy he's like hey man these mushrooms
changed my life you know what I'm saying
like that's uh you know that you become
a threat to what they've built you know
what I'm saying so that kind of comes
with the territory as well I got mad I
got hurt over it early on because I
thought these people were my friends but
I was a threat to what they were
building you know yes I'm in the Bible
Belt - Ettore I'm in Alabama bro oh yeah
so it's totally different yeah so what
would you say you're you're I mean you
use your spiritual baggage now you're
not are you are you still into religion
as much I'm into the philosophy in the
in like you I think I'm into what you're
into the love behind it like you saying
the love that fuels everything and I
like to read the scripture still and the
stories which I've studied I know I'm
like the back of my hand and I pulled
the spirituality out of it all and how
it's all like allegory and relates to us
and our bodies and our psyche and how we
play those characters in the Bible like
those those characters are us like just
like the Bhagavad Gita if you would read
about these other gods and stuff like
those are our personifications that we
play and we give homage to in different
aspects of our life like we
the Israelites running from the Creator
the Creator in the wilderness in a place
where we have no idea where we are in
this we have to deal with the golden
calves in our life you know the
different idolatry and things that we
that have our heart that knots it's not
supposed to have it and we're not being
authentic like all of that stuff is
about it's not about like finding the
historical King David and to give
credence and and prove that his story
existed that existed that proves your
religion is right it's about
understanding that the power is in the
story even if this person never existed
at all but you're gonna play the role of
King David and you got to face your own
Giants who are laughing at your face
Matthew silver has big thugs coming in
your face while you're performing
telling you you need to pack up and
leave right now and you're facing your
giant who's like okay do our bow down to
I just pack my stuff up and leave or I
do what I'm in put here to do and I
stand in the face of opposition bringing
love hope and unity and consciousness to
the people and stay there I've seen the
videos they're amazing you know what I'm
saying you have to face that and you
kind of go through so that's what the
religion means to me now those stories
and in Jesus and and and all of that
stuff so essentially I'm still I'm still
I'm still a Christian I guess I would
say I've still really relates to those
stories but as far as like being
religious and because they definitely
the church wouldn't have agreed with
those statements or whatever the case is
right so that definitely and I'm not
open to talk about mushrooms I'm not
open to talk about aliens and that song
far as that concerned I'm totally
removed from that 100% but I have my
foundations in that stuff though you
know yeah and see you need you need like
like you said it's like it's building a
religion builds a build something solid
and then it comes very narrow-minded
yeah I've been there yeah so it's like
they put so like you just said they put
so much effort into it so if you say
anything that transverses it
it's wrong wrong said yeah so so I mean
we're in a new age where you know we've
taken like we need a new mythology we
need a new and that's what a lot of us
are doing we're trying to recreate that
something a new myth a new story story
story to live by to equate your life by
and I feel like the only way to create
that new story is by you creating the
story and so somehow that's the
awakening everybody just follows their
inner story and it just it all hits
together back to one you know and it's
an awakening you know but I mean it's
always an awakening it's always it's
something we we need something that's in
our lives just more open open yep yep
and it's about yes that was my awakening
though so you know I'm saying like that
was my foundation and then the awakening
is like it's okay to be you because like
you have to give your persona away you
have to wear a mask you have to play the
hypocrite you know what the hypocrite is
the the performer in the in the Greek
play who would play many different roles
with the same with a mask that would
turn and you had to be someone you
wasn't that's what the turn how you
being a hypocrite man you're not being
authentic and so I don't think it's
being a hypocrite from a religious
standpoint of saying like in my case
you're into UFOs and you have you're
talking about psilocybin and stuff like
that psychedelics the hypocrite would be
acting like I'm I don't do that and I've
been there like I had to like keep it
hush-hush and not tell anybody and act
like no I'm not into that no you know
those things
Oh Oh big time man we're talking yeah
huge and but that's why this platform is
growing and I'm becoming successful with
it because I transcended past that
I'm doing with what because I have a
huge Christian following like they like
know my story and they know my music and
and I'm not the only one I'm there I'm
there their mouthpiece essentially
because I'm telling their story from a
Christian perspective and it's okay to
keep your belief in like your religious
beliefs or whatever and be okay to
something as silly as listening to
different music have a beer be a regular
person but still have your faith in your
foundation who these people were throw
you away and when they find out that
stuff they excommunicate you they ghost
you and it's it's hard bro like it
really is and uh so a big portion of the
fan base or whatever audience is
Christian but not from a religious
standpoint like they're coming out of it
into spirituality and they want someone
who is being open about their story and
and I've been told not to I've been told
to be quiet I've been told to no you're
gonna lose your job if you're talking
about mushrooms with Matthew silver like
I said well it's so powerful and that I
have to like I have to I can't not talk
about this if it's soap if I if this was
a life-changing experience and you're
telling me not to talk about like it can
help people if people change their lives
a cure depression but you want me not to
talk about it for fear of losing my job
like I gotta make that had and then
there was that fear there I had to block
all my constituents at work on social
media you know those things cuz if they
would see it and show the boss a true
Sikh is talking about his mushroom
journey this weekend and he's shown up
for work Monday morning you know what
I'm saying let's have a talk with them
they really mean that happens on jobs
all the time so there is a healthy fear
and there is a there's wisdom in it too
but you're calling your path I would I
wouldn't have been authentic to myself
not to talk about it and now it's paying
off it didn't at first you're
excommunicated you laughed at you made
your crazy person all of this stuff but
then eventually I mean look what you're
doing
when there was an audience now you have
an audience but you've been doing this
for a long time when there was nobody
showing up nobody entertaining or
getting up following you on social media
now you have audience but they don't
know that those early days man you you
just had to be consistent consistency
what there wasn't an applause and stuff
but you knew that it was something in
you greater that you were put here to do
and you did it and you're doing it it's
a process it's a process it's not
overnight at all recently I've been
reading these books did you ever hear of
conversations with God yeah yeah I've
been reading these books and one of the
messages I thought was good we are all
one ours is not a better way
ours is merely another way I mean that's
it that's the message link like you were
saying what you were saying before you
know yeah I believe there may have been
talking about aliens or whatever and and
the things that people find weird but
whose life is life is weird it's not
it's weird to be enclosed and thinking
there was only one way mm-hmm it's your
way we'll set the path if you create and
you when you said you're conscious of
you that you have a choice back in I
didn't have a choice my friends who
won't talk about that they don't have a
choice but they need to find out that
they can't they do and they can make it
and they can create it and and and and
they're getting to the point where I was
you know what I'm saying there and
getting feeling like they're meant for
something more than selling cars and
treating people at the car lot you know
I'm saying like that's what they're
doing and they feel like they know it's
wrong and they want to be doing music
they want to be doing but there's
probably to go ways to do it and I'm
just I'm just urging people just
those goes down and make it happen you
know be there Matthew silver be the true
seeker be the Joe Rogan whoever inspires
you like these are you definitely play I
think I would be safe to say that you
have played a role in me doing what I'm
doing right now so thank you for that
I would totally say that like I said
just you showing up being you and being
okay with it you know what I'm saying
like no definitely I've been watching
your videos for years bro like I've I've
been sharing them like I said when there
was only a couple I think maybe right
even when you first started just your
page like I was just a friend on
Facebook and there would only be just a
few people watching to now when I tuned
in to your loss of this a hundred serve
if not thousands of people watching
right after the videos done dude I've
been following man I appreciate your
work it's it's inspired me now so I
wanted to make this happen dude and this
is the 100th episode so I'm good I
finally got you on here to talk to you
man
yeah 100 Wow yep we just hit it so uh
there's people there's some people here
most people are commenting in the chat
oh my god Matthew Silver's here and this
guy's a legend I love his work
in the chat comment section some people
don't know what you do tell people how
they can find your work uh what's the
best platform whether it's YouTube or go
to Facebook or whatever what's the best
way to consume your work and how they
can check out what you're doing I don't
know if they just do a Google search
Matthew silver or YouTube Matthew so
just Matthew silver on Facebook Google
or you'd find a piece here and there I'm
not very organized but um you'd see
you'd see stuff I mean I I'm a a
performer I guess for the awakening you
know I'm but I'm in in a bathing suit
and I fart in people's faces you know I
get to do it
this will release when people do that
man like something happens when people
do that a guy in a business suit who
walks up and you know there's something
that happens there man
yeah you're helping man yeah I'm doing
my part my little part you know limit
let me ask you this um okay so you've
had to look for a while and then I've
seen some videos come out where the
beard was gone and the head was shaved
did that did you did you cut your hair
and shave your beard and then do some
some performances as well or was ill or
is that older stuff no I you had two
dreads in a long hair than you shaved it
all right yeah how did you feel when
that happened when you shaved it all it
was like it was cool yeah it meant I
didn't have to live inside this house so
it was its own boxes liberating it was
yeah really Wow yeah see I I had long
dreads for a while and dreads down my
back and I when I saved him I got the
press like I felt like I lost something
that I worked for or whatever so that's
fun I didn't know if there was something
similar that you experienced through
that but it was it was vibrating
I was liberating but I did feel like a
little down at first because I I wasn't
something that I was yeah like your
beauty would find in that opted to be
that you're always the trill truth of
reality is here you're in the present
moment you're always recreating yourself
you're reawakening yourself every moment
so if you you you keep an identity for a
while yeah and then you lose it that's a
good thing that helps you know it helps
yeah I definitely I definitely felt that
but I felt it's like ego death to like
and this there's a lot of spirituality
linked with hair too though you know
what I'm saying that information and
being
antenna to be receptive to energies and
things like that really really deep
stuff so that's I wanted to ask you that
I didn't know if you know the
performance change or if it was harder
to go out there it's almost like wearing
a mask like if you was like because it's
a personality so now was there was it
different going out there getting in the
character again without having the beard
or the other hair and just going out
there being the wackadoo or was it just
just like that you was able to jump
right into character and stuff I was
able to jump in a character people would
say oh you shouldn't have cut the hair
yeah but we you know none of us want to
live by what other people see us as you
know mess with them yeah it's just like
a just a new layer of uh it's a new
layer being controlled by what people
think about think like fish you escaped
religion you could you could have got
depressed and got my damn I shouldn't
have I shouldn't cut my hair I gotta
wait till it grows out until I go back
out there like you could have definitely
done that
exactly I it's just you know I don't
have to be this guy there's no there's
nobody IO for being like I you know
anyway I've already done my good thing
like you said another good messages
there's nothing you need to do yeah
you've all that acceptance anything
right and so the only true path is your
spiritual path the path of your soul you
know not necessarily even the path of
your own your mind and your body body I
mean it's it's almost the thing that
connects you to God you know that's
what's important and and in a way like
cutting the hair was a way of saying
this is not good yeah yeah it's not it's
it's not important you know me not
defined by that when someone would try
to define you by your hair or this
character there's so much more and that
doesn't define you that's also men yeah
I mean it also has a point to like how
that's what speed you live your life I
mean you can only do one thing really
well you know and and if not all of your
attention and your focus is on why
you're doing and your you know your your
heads - somewhere else you kind of lose
your you lose yourself you identified in
these other thing you let other things
define you and we like this we talked
about earlier like people do that with
acceptance or rejection you know and you
have to do something to be accepting
that's not God at all that's what like
turned me off to Christianity in the
religion that I was in like I had to do
something to be accepted by these people
when the God that I've read about her in
the scriptures or Jesus he loves you
regardless he loved you when you were a
dirtbag and you did all of these things
that were harmful to yourself he still
loved you and that loved that love of
Christ for me it's what like empowers
you to change and so that's the
motivation there is the love motivation
behind my message and I think it's
behind yours - the love that kind of
encourages you to do what you're put
here to do to break the shell to find
out that love is really all that matters
like all of this other stuff is gonna
pass away but love I think I think
there's something eternal about that man
those good deeds and stuff of helping
people but I really do yeah I think that
stuff lasts you know leaves a mark on
people versus doing the opposite right
so I'm with you I bro hey man imma go
ahead and in this episode perspective
talk this long hey it was you know what
it started out kind of slow but we got
into it man
there's a lot of people in the chat
saying how they love you you know what
I'm saying and uh and these are people
who follow my work so it's so cool that
a lot of them already know who you are
and then there's some people who don't
know who you are so make sure y'all
check out
Matthew Silver's work go to YouTube
there's a great video and I'll put it in
the description as well it's called the
meaning of life from a crazy person
someone edit it and put music to it it's
like this inspirational video and he has
conversations but with this with people
I open like this like on on a daily
basis and really funny stuff some of its
funny some of its uh motivational but
all of it
I think all of it matters like the
laughing and then the motivational with
it as well as beautiful can I just say
one last note go ahead
basically summarizing what you said that
I think the most important message here
is that there's nothing God loves you no
matter what you do there's nothing you I
mean we talked about going after our
dreams and stuff yeah it's just knowing
that God knowing that you're not alone
and and you know God loves you no matter
what I mean youyou be a screw up that's
it
I mean that's awareness you know so
that's empowering like that's that's
that's the permission we talked about
the permission like to know that you're
accepted and loved regardless of your
failures like that's that's the
permission that love that enables you to
go out and be the person you created to
be ya know in whatever form if that's in
religion like some people find that in
religion and they're gonna they're gonna
stay there it works for them they're
successful that they raising a good
family
they're doing what they love to do and
it's for them but others they're not
satisfied with that you know they have
to they have to you know ask the bigger
questions in life they have to you know
they have to get these things out of
their head you know they have questions
and they have dated one answers you know
yeah and so that's why I think stuff
like this is important whether we're
talking about aliens or or just you know
it's just about I think it all plays
from for me like all all of it's part of
the same thing you know I've just it's
aliens for me for someone else it's you
know something else you know I really
enjoy that I don't want to be like you
said I don't want to be told that I
can't talk about that
yeah you can talk about everything but
that you know don't talk about
psychedelics don't talk about this I'll
talk about that when it's part of you
and it changed your life or whatever the
case is I think we should freely be able
to speak about that kind of stuff so
that's if it helps people I think it
helps people you know yes help me that's
my story all I can do is share my story
with you you know leave it up to Matthew
to share his brother thanks for coming
on man I appreciate you and I'd love to
have you on the game and we need to do
this again sometime
thank you I brother all right
peace of Shalom huh one love one heart
one heart Salaam bro peace Shalom
Matthew silver ladies and gentlemen I've
been trying to get him on for a while
really cool that would finally finally
had the chance to make this work
good good interview started off a little
rocky didn't know you try to find common
ground trying to build and then not
rocky you just you know a little bit
slower there towards the end that we
kind of both felt okay with one another
and it happens like that I've done I do
a lot of interviews like that well you
don't you don't know how it's gonna go
do we have common ground here but we
definitely did I really enjoyed that
like I said and I don't think that's
that's going out on a limb saying it
either that Matthew silver him doing
what he's doing it has played a role in
me doing what I'm doing for a living of
me showing up and being ok to walk in my
truths and do it essentially for a
living now you know what I'm saying and
pursue that because you find out how
how depressed or miserable you'll be if
you don't you have to you have to
and there's your permission I just told
you to go out and do it do something
today that's gonna build the life you
want for yourself tomorrow something
send the email trust me I got people I'm
trying to help I can't force you to do
anything I could just share with you
what worked for me but do something dish
today share email write a lyric write a
chapter write a page write a paragraph
for your book that's what's it within
you that you want to do you've been
through something as can thinking help
somebody like whatever those dreams you
have within you do something I don't
care what a mail if it's just sending an
email you want to do a podcast and I the
email to get your first guest like
there's so much you can do man and I
hate the fact that I deal with people
who won't they claim they want it but
they won't do the work like they won't
send the email trust me I've had I've
tried to hold people's hands through
this stuff and um but they keep talking
about it like it's a future thing that's
gonna happen but it's not gonna happen
if you don't take that shovel put that
shovel in the ground break up that stony
ground put the seed in there cover it
back up water it give it sunlight
nurture it like you have to do something
you can't just have all these good ideas
they're just gonna everyone has great
ideas you know I'm saying so do it I
love you guys episode number 100 it's
awesome I'm gonna come right back on I
got another interview right after this I
love you guys peace
that does it for this episode folks to
hear more episodes of the truth seeker
podcast head over to Ustica calm and if
you're wanting to support the show and
get rewards go to our patreon page at
patreon.com forward slash truth seeker