Mindfulness, Meditation And Spiritual Awakening | Anthony Guilbert
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Gobert welcome my brother morning how
are you doing well man good to have you
on did I say your name right there yep
good bear awesome what were you from man
originally Long Island New York New York
okay
okay sounds French was a French last
name is French my background would be is
this kind of mixed it's a debatable but
best I can tell talking and digging
through my family is primarily Italian
Spanish heritage a little Native
American and Arab thrown in on the back
end yep yep sounds about right just a
little bit of everything I'm down here
in the south and I'm originally from New
Orleans so for some reason good bear
sounds a lot like a bear which is a it's
a common name down here as well there's
a lot of French down here so see that
connection
Mae welcome to the show excited to talk
to you about your story your work which
you bring to the table you're a writer
you have a lot of I don't know if we we
can call them spiritual practices I
think it's a
some some background in martial arts
which tends to be spiritual spiritual
practice of rain in the body training
the mind money a body in mind as one
Taoism Zen Buddhism and or big one for
me which is Qigong which is some things
you're trained in as well so I'd like to
talk a little bit about that but if you
want to go ahead and kind of give a
quick background for people who may have
not of part of your work and what you
bring to the table if you want to go
ahead and that's awesome so um yeah it's
kind of interesting you bring it up as a
in my generation you know the Gen Xers
and the tail-end of the baby boomers we
didn't really have access to the mind
body world that exists today when we
were coming up you know back on Long
Island in the 70s all it was was martial
arts nobody had heard of g-going nobody
nobody was really serious about
meditation where they are now it's a
very different world so yeah my entrance
into this was through judo and Aikido
judo through my stepdad who had worked
study with the Grandmaster here in the
US and then trained taught judo in Japan
after the war I moved into Aikido when I
got to the end of Judo and was looking
for something new and I had I tried a
few different martial arts and that was
the one that hit me and I did that for
about six years
black builder than that as well and
right before that I got injured and the
injury to my back and primarily lower
back from a car accident and my right
arm was such that it led me into
studying Tai Chi is something to as a
practice to keep moving and stay healthy
while my body healed at the same time I
couldn't you know I can go back and
shoot or Aikido because I couldn't get
thrown on the ground the way I used to
his body wasn't going to take it so I
got very interested in that and through
Tai Chi originally young form I've also
studied the Wu form I got into G gung I
study with various teachers in G gung
master Chen who's up at Dao house I'll
give a shout
to death house which was an actual
Taoist monastery or monastery or temple
here in the u.s. up in Estes Park
Colorado another New Yorker on shout out
the Jim McGee who is the founder of the
National genome Association who was my
mentor for quite a few years and my
current teacher Roger Janka who hits the
Institute of integral Qigong and Tai Chi
in California supposed to be my primary
teachers like I said I've been looking
up the study with two of the great
American G done teachers I know that
phrase may get me in trouble so you know
respectful yeah
respect everybody I didn't mention and
from there you know my life has been
studying Zen Buddhism and Daoism arms in
with the mountains in stream order in
New York and then Taoism primarily
intellectually sitting down as I don't
follow
the Taoist religion I look at that
listen from a philosophical standpoint
and really consider it in the modern
context so how do these things work and
fit into our daily lives and where are
these expressionist Taoism is based on
observation you know every Taoist master
that wrote the foundational texts
observe the world and then interpreted
it for people it's where you get ideas
like yin and Jung it's through
observation I'm right now my work is to
take those old ideas and see can we
still see them in culture particularly
in American culture or they still valid
if they are still valid have they found
or expressed anything new to us over
time you know as culture grows and
changes yeah so that's the work I'm
doing now and along the way a bunch of
other spiritual practices I've been
looking up to have the great spiritual
friends you know people who I may not
have followed as a teacher but we
learned through friendship oh yeah yeah
those yeah those people come in handy
man because we need to role questions
and ideas off of one another and so to
have people and are there with you
whether you know we said you know
they're they're not really a teacher but
essentially everything is a teacher
right so those people who were coming up
with you and you see the mistakes that
they're
making or the things that they're doing
right and we kind of learn from
everything in our situation especially
you know our friends who were on this
similar path with this man it could be
hard you know talking about spiritual
awakening I just shared out a meme on
Instagram and you've probably seen it
it's a popular one but it's like this
lady it says what people think spiritual
awakening is and it's this woman
meditating on a mountain real beautiful
but it says what what spiritual
awakening really looks like and it's
just lady freaking out at the bottom and
uh somebody help me am I going crazy
right and so you know I think we need
examples there's not there's not a lot
of respected teachers anymore and if
they are they're just they they only
they're only good at like this one thing
one or two things it's like they're not
gonna have it all figured out they
they're really good at what they teach
and what they believe and what they can
impart but you're gonna have to go find
someone else if you want to learn a
deeper mystery about whatever it is that
has to deal with spirituality
everything's gonna be biased and I think
that like we learn from all of these
teachers and all of these people or in
experiences and we kind of come up with
our own ideas about what life is a
spirituality expression how the universe
the world the mind works and how we can
you know use it for our benefit and to
benefit those around us which is which
is the beautiful thing about
spirituality so we're talking about
spiritual awakening what was your
initiation into spiritual awakening was
it just something I was always there
through the martial arts practices or
was that did something happened that got
handed to it I think the martial arts
was a weight I mean growing up I mean I
was a short fat kid who got picked on
that's why I was drawn to the martial
arts you know I remember watching a
Billy Jack in the movie theater and
going yeah I'm not taking [Â __Â ] anymore
so that was my original you know
entrance in but uh you know I think I
want to say that my spiritual awakening
as a young man probably came when I was
oh I say five or six and I started
reading a copy of Kai he'll go bronze
the profit that my mother had on her
bookshelf which was very popular in that
you know early spilly 60s and my mother
fosters a lot of that in me you know
though you know parents being what they
are we never see eye to eye on
everything my mom was very open to me
experiencing new things so you know
going into the martial arts wasn't a big
jump you know the fact that my stepdad
was martial artist helped entrant you
know my entrance into that but my
stepdad was very steep in Japanese
culture so it was also meditation it was
also an appreciation for you know a
pecan flower arranging iku I kind of
adopted that whole Japanese warrior
attitude as young men I would say my an
adult awakening into the spiritual life
came there was a what if you ever get
the chance to experience this as a form
of uh Zen meditation called Tsui Zen and
it's a music played on a Japanese
shakuhachi flute and the music is
specific to its Buddhist music played in
interpreted you know twenty five hundred
year old music played on this bamboo
flute and the shakuhachi players will
the whole idea is to integrate your
senses into the environment so I had
been I've been doing this just for
enjoyment on Sunday mornings back in my
my early 20s remember 20s and it was one
morning
whereas listen to the local shop ouchy
player in Long Island we were at the
John pm strolling Gardens which is a
Japanese garden that ambassador Hume had
created on Long Island after he retired
and we um the whole group of us had that
had that a similar experience where we
were all sitting there was getting into
the music and meditating and at one
point I could say I felt a bird I had so
does he imagine you can imagine a tea
house and I'm sitting in the doorway of
the tea house and the Sun is coming
through through the garden onto my back
and I can feel the warmth on my back and
the bird's wing passed through that beam
of light and I could feel the entire
expanse of the wing imprinted on my back
and I just slipped
to the garden like I just disappeared
from myself and became everything in the
garden and then everything beyond the
garden and then nothing till the music
stops and I kind of returned that was
when I really started taking things
seriously that that experience of
oneness or boundlessness that took me
and so I guess it took me 10 years to
actually figure that experience out I
worked for a long time studied a lot of
different teachings started digging
deeper but that was a moment where for
me things opened up and it all became
not abstract in a book something my
teacher told me but real and
experiential yeah yeah that's what um
you know the real encounter is about we
talked we talked about it last night on
my friend's podcast the fact that like
even you know come out of Christianity
it was always like take my word for it
this is my story how I found God you
need to believe my story not beckon you
to come and say yes you know but um but
the real side of having an encounter
with God for yourself you know of and I
think that's really what even early
Christianity was is to come in and have
this practice I really look at old the
original Christianity as a spiritual
practice that looked like something from
the east versus what we have in the West
now but of something where you can
actually encounter that spirit the holy
spirit and encounter God for yourself
and it's not by walking you know in a
belief in someone else's experience or
revelation of God or the divine but your
own encounter that everyone can have
that for themselves the other thing that
you could be talked out of belief I
think you could be talked out of faith
but knowing God or knowing that divine
essence of what it is what it feels like
how it's been with you where it's taking
you all of that I don't think I don't
think anyone can take that from you
that's that experience man that can be
found through every religion can be
found through a lot of different
spiritual practices and and I think it
comes back down
- as far as wanting to recreate that
experience I mean a lot of people fall
in in the trouble there because we
haven't an encounter with the divine and
then we want to recreate it and then we
get sucked into a church or a religion
or denomination or something and you're
taught all these rules and bylaws that
have nothing to do with that experience
that you encountered and so it could be
kind of tricky there but having that
encounter for yourself is where it's at
I whenever I teach Qigong I teach it
with that idea that you know the
practice yes it will heal certain
illnesses yes it will make you healthier
yes it will do all these things but what
was originally supposed to do it was
supposed to fine-tune your senses to
that experience we forget we forget that
you know ji Gong came out of Taoism and
that all of Taoism was about
experiencing the world you know it was
about learning from the deeper
experiences that were around us and I
agree with you I think I mean who made
me what came Park this back to the
comment you made early about teachers um
person comes to study with me learn what
I am giving you is a tool and then go on
your way I have I have two or three
students that have stayed with me over
the years because I push the rest of
them out
you need to go and experience new things
I think so many teachers because this
there they have a product line you know
and the product line keeps them employed
and yes like you know the people who
support you for your podcast you're
giving them something and they're
supporting you see that you can keep
giving but at some point but I'm not
saying this about you but it's some play
for mind body teachers and spiritual
teachers it becomes the product line and
pushing the product line and then they
come with these programs of behavior and
these practices that you have to do I
remember a guy from Fallon gung and I
and I have deep respect for what they've
done in China but the guy actually told
me if I started practicing Falun Gong
which is a form of Qigong practice that
if I stop that would die oh wow what the
hard sell yeah yeah you know put that on
the pack of cigarettes to see what
happens so I think a lot of this comes
down to you know see you have that
experience you cultivate an awareness
that you've had it you develop wisdom
from it and then you create something
from that wisdom and you continue your
life until and don't look for the next
experience yeah
it'll come to you it will come to you
when when when you were in line with
with the world you know the Taoist would
say when you were moving with the Dao
it'll come to you when you were aligned
in step perfectly moving with it and the
whole flow is behind you and that's
where it connects with that idea of like
peak experience the psychologists talked
about but I feel um I feel yeah I feel
like you know I tell all my students
just as what you're saying is truth do
not learn just one thing wearing
anything out just follow well what we've
been said a vessel a harken back to my
writing Whitman said those two quotes
I've a Whitman and then John hold
Wheelock Whitman said this on line so
remember slate it was a basically except
what doesn't offend your soul and I'm
paraphrasing that it's from song with
myself anyone wants to look it up near
the tail end of the poem right except
what doesn't offend your soul what it
would a great sing you know learn what
you have to learn as long as it doesn't
it's truth if it doesn't offend your
soul John won't Wheelock said young
writers were like boys in an apple
orchard they stole that they had a taste
for and brought at home I feel spiritual
seekers are the same way we see what we
have a taste for them carry it with us
you know I mean within my my soul there
are words spoken by Gustavo Raven Silva
who is a Mapuche medicine man an artist
I'd met back in the 80s who I haven't
seen in 20 years he's down in Ecuador
now my first my first martial arts
teacher all these words you know that
you take what's important and sometimes
you won't know that things are important
they'll just it'll resonate with you and
you don't understand why but hold on to
it because time will help it unfold yeah
when you whenever it's whenever it's
supposed to come up it'll come up and
you know it and we're knowing and then
at times like there's there's what with
that awakening there's things that you
know
spiritually intuitively and then
you read it in a book yes but like
you've already knew that that concept
was true and then you you read it
whether it's in the Bible or any other
type of holy book or whatever and you're
like man I always knew that was true I
knew that we can do that I knew that the
angels were watching over us or
communicating with us or whatever the
case is and it's so weird to have that
inner knowing and then the deja vu but I
mean I already knew this and it's now
it's cool that I have someone else who
believes it for one thing and and I have
proof that that you know at one point
however old the text is someone believed
in something very similar that was
imparted to me through spirituality or
just through mindfulness which is which
is a good a good thing to talk about
mindfulness and let me let me see if
this is what you mean by it but it's
like once you have that Awakening or you
have that heightened state of
consciousness mindfulness is how we stay
in it because it's easy to be to be
pulled out of it or to forget about it
or to go or to kind of live your life
like you know some people even feel like
that even you know that happened to
another person like you can you know you
can have that encounter of being one
with all creation that you felt in that
in that garden and then six months later
shoot two days later you can feel like
man where am I you know what I'm saying
and and like that that never happened
but I think mindfulness for me is just
always remembering that any moment you
can close your eyes you can take that
deep breath in and you can go back to
that garden and you can go back to that
encounter that breath is connected there
what does dummy that that's what it
means to me what does mindfulness mean
for you well I think again it's all
those words that we've created over the
last 20 years
um mindfulness practice things like
meditation Tai Chi Qi Gong yoga those
practices are everything that leads you
up to a moment of awakening and
everything to hold you there afterwards
so you figure you have if you look at it
just from a stress from stress right I
mean I've got our lives are so stressful
oh you know um
so how do you how do you mitigate the
stress to get back to a simpler life
clearly there are teachings you can use
simplicity great teaching it's actually
a form of mindfulness in itself to to
parse out of your life all the
unnecessary things to get back to what
is essential
great practice but we also need what um
some Taoist scholars were further poochy
Gong as bio spirituality or bio
spiritual the idea that we need we need
physical practices like meditation and
other movement practices that still our
minds reduce stress focus our
understanding so that when those moments
come we can key into them as opposed to
being drawn aside you know I've seen uh
in fact I wrote about this in my new
book not that I want to hog the book but
it just came to mind because I was
looking at over a couple of days ago it
was a scene I was travelling back from
Florida back in 2010 on my way back in
Colorado and I was passing through
Alabama and a tornado had just come
through and like I'd never been in a
tornado before what you know it's I
could talk about a stressful moment so I
got off the road and I you know got into
a shelter and afterwards I came back at
and luckily my car wasn't there once it
was hit but people came running out you
know in that in that moment afterwards
and they were all very tuned in to what
needed to happen there was a over turn
trailer home so people ran in to help
pull this kid out and you know they took
this kid over to a car and then they
they were in to help these other people
and people were just helping each other
and that was a remindful moment for me
because not only was I in the position
where a it was just coming out of
needing to be mindful for survival but
then also the next step is you need to
be mindful of the people around you and
what help they need you know it's and
it's one thing to be in the flow but
it's also part of that is being what is
necessary after that yeah so I think I
look at mindfulness like that there's
you for those moments when you
absolutely need to be focused but
is also the lifestyle that you lead
afternoons are you concerned about
others are you aware you know what comes
practical right yeah yeah let me ask you
practical yeah
and it's one not that I am you know I'm
not a big proponent of the psychedelic
movement I understand I'm gonna say that
I've never done anything I'm not Bill
Clinton you know but so much of that is
you know people seek that experience and
you see this all soon a lot of a lot of
the New Age practices where people seek
this encounter experience and they want
to keep coming back to it keep coming
back to it yeah coming and they forget
that the rest of the world exists you
know away from here you have the
encounter you're gonna you know what
about your friend who who hurt
themselves and needs help or or the
family down the block who's having a
difficult time and I could use a
casserole if you brought it over or any
of those things that are the day-to-day
experiences of each other that are also
we forget are also spiritual experiences
yeah I think all of those things are
essentially an escape and we need
escapes right escapes aren't bad
sometimes you need to get away I think
you know thinking in the scriptures like
King David when he would be get stressed
out he'd run to a cave he'd get away get
by himself and get with God and hide up
under the shadow of the almighty with
with his father um
the psychedelic experience can
definitely be that um I'm at the point
now I love those encounters I love those
experiences all the supernatural
otherworldly whether it's psychedelics
whether it's deep states of meditation
and and whatever angelic encounter or
whatever it is so much stuff that I
can't even explain um I would feel like
a spoiled brat to keep going back and
begging for more you know what I'm
saying of any of those experiences
there's been and I've you know since my
awakening or whatever which was I say my
awakening my whole life man yes there's
people who have who exist in their adult
lives and have never touched anything of
the
they don't believe in it it's never and
I've had so many even as a little kid
man like you're saying five years old of
being mindful and having it's the
spiritual awakening and carrying it with
you throughout your life but to keep
wanting to go back people get addicted
man they get addicted to the euphoria
which is just like a drug people get
addicted to the escape and euphoria from
drugs
same thing with spiritual encounters but
hopefully through spiritual encounter or
maybe through a religion that's you know
that can help them hopefully they get
addicted to something that's helping
them but at the end of the day it's
never a means to an end it's never the
end all like this is what we do this is
all we do like when we go into those
realms whether it's through the
psychedelic experience which I've only
had a couple but they've been monumental
like I've got the information it's
really good like really really really
good and I've come out and I and I knew
it's gonna take months to decipher this
information and then to bring it into my
reality I've seen the vision of that I
want for myself it's always been there
but that helped me to go in and get it
in the same thing with meditation you
kind of go and you get this information
and through alchemy through shamanism
I'm we're able to pull it out and bring
it into and now to manifest it and to
see physical change that's my take on it
I think that's the healthy take to be
able to go in pull stuff out do what I
need to do but I would have friends who
would be on that journey with me next
weekend man I'm doing it again like what
next weekend
we must not have had the same experience
couldn't have there's no way you can
want to go back in that deep next
weekend and have fun and you know just
to let you know that that person went
back next weekend and had a bad
encounter like really bad crying and
thinking he was gonna die and that kind
of stuff man you have to respect that
stuff and it's never a means to an end
yeah I think is the big word there we
we've so often forget these are not
products this is not PlayStation this is
this is an ancient tradition yeah that
deserves our respect and no you have to
tell me
demands respect demands demands
definitely yeah yep
but yeah I've had the same experiences
you have where you just you come out of
this and you know it was it was white
knuckled and by the skin of your teeth
and you go holy [Â __Â ] it's gonna take me
a long time to work this out yeah and
then that's the process that's the next
step it's right there it's you don't
have to ask anybody about it work it out
ya know that's how I find that people
don't do that they they have they're not
aware of the experience and this is true
for Ji Young and meditation as well you
can have deep deep meaningful
experiences of yeah of self or non-self
or non duality whatever you want to call
it you can have these deep experiences
but then you've got to let it sit you
gotta let it you know again don't go
back to the meditation the next day
going okay I'm gonna do this again you
don't want to live in that state you
can't you can't process the world in
that state yeah it's it's it's a teacher
but then go home do the homework yeah
it's like that for I mean I think I
think it applies for everything
especially with spirituality or religion
you know I've seen that in the churches
you know in the churches I come out of
were like charismatic churches where
they practice laying on the hands and
falling out and running around the
church and this ain't this the
monumental encounter with the divine but
they want it every time they go in
they're living off of that experience so
much so that if that experience doesn't
happen I've heard people say well God
didn't show up or God wasn't here or we
missed God these weird phrases that were
you know they're people agree to it in
church God didn't show up like really
like we're here and God didn't show up
but we we missed God because we didn't
do some weird crazy song and dance and
have this and like muster up this
encounter and this so many people living
off of those encounters and it's the
same with the psychedelics it's the same
with meditation Qigong in churches every
Sunday Monday night Wednesday Sunday
morning Sunday night they like they're
addicted to church like that's what that
that's what they do and but I think that
the universe or God
is the the best teacher will use that
and eventually wean you off of that like
there's no way you can that's eventually
gonna dry up eventually everybody may
take you a year two years three years I
don't know how long it's gonna take but
eventually you have to face reality and
say what am i doing like what are we
doing here just dancing and shaking and
falling out or whatever the case is we
have to you know impact the world we
have people around us who are literally
struggling and if I can't find the
inspiration from these encounters to go
back and like not in theory change the
world but literally go out there and
have something tangible for my friends
that's gonna help them and people who
need my help but I'm so caught up in
going into this other realm and they
were saying in churches all the time
they say you're so spiritual minded that
you're no earthly good but we're
supposed to be so spiritually minded
that were earthly incredible man you
know I think the basic alchemy I follow
what you do is simply ultimately it's
you alone in the room with your practice
that's the open that experience it's you
by your future but you alone with your
practice then it is the wisdom you gain
from that and ultimately what you create
with that wisdom I think that simple
that simple form of just practice
reflection creation if you take that and
you apply it to any spiritual practice
any spiritual tradition you can you can
serve the world and believing we need
people serve in the world right now the
world is often took mm-hmm no no and I
think some people I mean this is one of
the issues with transcendence for me
this idea that I'm especially among my
generation and the Boomers is this idea
that you know and it's actually one of
the hard core interpretations of Taoism
that they call Lu way is this idea of
non action that you should just accept
what is natural death is natural so
accept that our society may die it's
it's a very it's very I mean in its
Russell Kirkland writes great about this
and I hate him I honestly say but I
don't like
man because in his approach yeah but it
it isn't it is part of you know the
interpretation of Taoism that I don't
it's one of things I just don't resonate
with what I believe that we are all part
of nature and nature is in the constant
flux between creation and destruction if
we start correcting the mistakes that
we've made we're part of the creation of
the world you know at the same time we
can be destructive and at some point
it'll become unhealthy for us so I think
I try to promote at least you know when
I call myself a mind-body advocate I try
to promote mind body culture because I
believe that my body culture is what's
important for you know world culture for
human culture that we are more aware
that we are healthier whether we deal
with less stress that we are more in
possession of ourselves and have less
things in the world possessiveness
because I mean I don't think we need to
go back to classical demons anymore we
got an iPhone that's a possession the
fact that I get tweets in the middle of
class what I'm trying to teach is a
possession and that's neat it's the urge
to feel like I've got to stop and answer
somebody yeah in mid conversation with
someone else or at the dinner table its
I've seen people man that are really bad
about it who needs a demon when you got
that damn thing so I think I think
people need to through mindfulness
practices whatever way you approach it
whether you approach it from a
traditional Christian standpoint or you
come at it from the east or you do it
from a non-denominational standpoint the
more of those practices are growing out
there as well you need to do these
things to be present in this world it
was otherwise this world is moving so
fast and so erratically that they can
take you and just keep you disconnected
and pushed along for you know without
any sense of consciousness I see a
father yeah autopilot what I like to
call it days months weeks have gone by
and you just just in that every day this
is what I do I get up I make breakfast I
go to work I come home I'm tired
exhausted get up and do the same thing
eventually like you have to do something
you have to turn that autopilot off cuz
you're on default and say look
I'm trying to I want to create something
I have dreams and visions and they're
just passing by so being mindful is is
is understanding that I have it's
understanding I have to do something
practical
like I have to do something today that I
want to manifest tomorrow planting a
seed cultivating it watering it and
hoping that it grows and speaking to it
like all kinds of of things that you can
do but being mindful is being conscious
and aware of of keeping it in your
vision and not forgetting about it I
mean one of the things that kind of
hinders a lot of creative people I found
for me and definitely like a lot of my
friends who got a lot of great ideas
they want to do this they want to do
that and they'll get in something
they'll start it some of them will do it
for a week and then after that week it
gets old and they got this other idea oh
man check this out I'm gonna do this I'm
gonna start cultivating this and selling
this and I want to do this and then a
week later they're on to something else
they've already forgot the first thing
the second thing is it's gone and they
got a new idea but it's about
consistency and dedication and being
mindful wait because those ideas and
thoughts come in they're all good ideas
write them down you don't have to like
be taken away you only have 24 hours in
a day but you only have so much time to
create something to birth something into
this this existence that that doesn't
exist and you and you have you have to
protect it you have to be mindful man
and what and and that it goes along with
consistency for me once I started doing
it you asked me how long I've been doing
this podcast I've been doing it off and
on for years but within the last year
I've been consistent there's so many
other things opportunities people want
me to join them people want me to do
this travel here start a band all all of
it would be awesome I would love to do
it all a reality is I can't do it all I
have to pick what am I going to give my
attention to what am I gonna spend my
time on and once you do that hard work
pays off with anything at the end of the
day consistency repetition reduces
resistance just keep on and on at it and
you can build whatever you want but not
being pulled out of that moment or off
of that
tasks that you're set on this is one of
the reasons why that whole that whole
movement of the secret drives me
absolutely not there is a point where
you have you know you can do as much
positive thinking and you know try to
have a certain state of mind and the
tracks of things that you need to your
life yes all that is great but at some
point you gotta roll your damn sleeves
up and do the work yeah I like to
combine it man because I really do get a
lot of inspiration from the Guru's and
the spiritual teachers about how to be
mindful you talk about young you talk
about Alan Watts and McKenna you know
some of these type of people who inspire
you but you take that inspiration and
you put it to use and like you're saying
like there's people who are here and
they're listening they're supporting
they they like listening to the podcast
or whatever the case is but if they
don't learn from the guest if they don't
learn from our experiences what's
working what's not working we're open
and transparent about it if they don't
learn from that and go out there and do
it
then they're doing it wrong if they're
listening just for it for like
entertainment purposes this is totally
not an entertainment podcast we're
trying to kind of given people the game
essentially we're letting them know how
the universe works and how we've been
successful and what not to do and you
know what I'm saying even in this
conversation there's so many jumps and
if they're not taking that applying it
to their life and I just listening cuz
they're entertaining or they like to
think about spiritual stuff that's good
too but you're doing it wrong
like you have to do it like if you're at
if you're at that place then you're
somewhere where you don't want to be we
even just in this podcast we've given
you so many gems and some of the jewels
about how to be mindful different
practices you can do to get the vision
that you need and then how to bring the
vision out and you know I'm saying
bringing it to manifestation hard work
pays off it's maybe one for my mentor
its Clemente I was lucky enough when I
was a young writer to find a professor
at the local college who really believed
in my work and helped usher me along and
within its works I mean this absolutely
works so for artists you can do this
first time I can't want to Vincent's
house yeah this uh little this is back
when computers were you know black and
white in this pile of folders that's all
stuff I'm working on I'm like well you
don't do just one thing at a time
because I can't do one thing at a time
because it's impossible because when
you're working on a project sometimes
you hit a dead spot well you have
another thing ready to go back have five
of the things ready to go when you dead
spot comes you can fill it with
something else some other piece of
creative working what I over the years
of doing that is that I have I may have
a recording that I need to do for say a
digital class or I'm working on a new
like right now I'm working on putting
the other notes from the next book I
also have this this collection of poems
about wine and I've been working on for
five years you know that's all there and
if one thing doesn't Jam I just go right
down the list to the next one that
doesn't Jam I go to the next one
something will always jam so I am never
at this point in my life sitting around
my thumb up my butt going I don't really
know what to do I get writer's block ya
know and worst comes to worst as always
the kayak out in the garage fits are on
the roof yeah it's like okay I can't
figure anything out okay yeah something
gets done something happens I can these
go ahead get some exercise and that
usually frees my mind out if I'm sitting
in the middle of the reservoir writing
stuff down yeah you're a hundred percent
right man that's me I've got folders on
my computer of notepads just with after
teaching here have a teaching this half
of a meditation whatever the case is and
it's just a whole bunch of little stuff
and and it's hard for me to really focus
on that because it I'm such a analytical
mind that I want to approach it from
every aspect and you're the holder I
can't I can't add that here that's gonna
have to be something totally different
because if we're gonna introduce that
and we've just got to be a different
book or a different lecture or whatever
the case is and so but when you're in
that that place of doing something where
your subconscious is it's free to roam
you're doing something that's repetitive
most of us do want we're driving to and
from work or something like that
/ cutting the grass or we're jogging or
we're out kayaking it frees up your mind
to be able to receive inspiration to
start creating so if you hit that
writer's block you can actually go out
and do that workout whatever the case is
and in something and start being
inspired and you have to pull out your
phone you have to write something down
to pull out the notepad and I've got my
phone and my computer everything is
filled up with notes that are just on
and on it's cool with the technology on
the phone because you can actually pull
out the speech-to-text
pull it out and just start writing I've
wrote I've got long articles that I I
was just driving speaking to it and you
have to go back and sit down and edit it
but I've got articles that are really
successful because I mean I was just
driving to work and pulled out the phone
and sort of talking something I was
inspired to do versus just letting it
come and then slip away you know what is
on let me ask you this we're coming up
close to the end of the show but um what
about fasting man you got a really nice
article on your website about fasting
what does that have to do with
spirituality and being mindful I know
there's so many ways we can approach
fasting and the ancients have have
always done it health reasons you know
what I'm saying I think the health
benefits contribute to the spiritual
benefits as well but in your article on
on on the website what's the big thing
for you about fasting fasting from
health I have some issues with my
gallbladder and I was trying to cleanse
it out so I came through they came to
fasting through that Avenue what I've
found over time that um when I do fast
and you know if I do for health reasons
like I'm you know eight something and I
really knew my sister clear out or if I
do it regularly which I tried to do a
couple of times a year there's a point
in fasting between day three and day
five where your body is really starting
to empty out and I don't do a hardcore
fast I do yeah we'll take some liquid if
I am fasting while I'm teaching or
working I tend to do juice fasts so I'll
just drink
carriages or carrot and spinach juice
throughout the day just to keep
nutrients in my system so I can keep
functioning not do I'm a big guy I can't
I've got enough to store it up that I
can I can work off that if I really have
to but I try to when I try to fast right
on there between day three and day five
this is clarity that comes that is just
so profound it's good day and that's one
of the things that can really be
addictive this is this profound clarity
it's when your body functions start to
shut down and they're not happening
anymore
the mind awakens up so much more energy
gets to your mind that your body's not
using I've had some great spiritual
insights fasting again I think there are
a great a lot of great books on fasting
I mentioned a couple of really good ones
I think I got some links to some free
copies of some classic texts on that on
that page of my website only assume
peoples be careful if you've never
fasted before if you have and they're
kind of almost these days you have to
give the boilerplate comments so if you
have medical conditions talk with your
doctor before you fast that's an
absolute 100% simply because if you're
taking medications and you're fasting
those medications are going to be more
in your system they're going to be less
diluted yeah the same you know if you
are if you have got any type of mental
aberration that you're dealing with
emotional issues again talking with you
talk to me talk to a therapist first
before you start this because this will
bring [Â __Â ] up for you you know I
guarantee you I dealt with most of my
father issues yeah but that's good
though it's good that it created that
that you know saying that place for you
to deal with it though um so you know
those things aside you're taking care of
yourself first as always that whatever
whatever mindful practice mindfulness
practice you're doing um you have to
start off with this idea this deep deep
belief that you must take care of the
self first that's usually why you're
doing the practice but
from there um yeah I mean I would start
off with a three day fast I start up
with a three day liquid festival where
it's going on both food out or you know
simplest way to do it and this is um
Muslim belief is you fast from sunrise
to sunset
yeah you know you you do that that's
like probably the easiest way to go
about it and then you need a plan
tonight and try to even then keep what
you're eating you know you don't just
like slam a bunch of food at once as the
Sun goes and heats moderately and then
you know next day do the same thing
again that will will give you a certain
amount of clarity that will give you a
certain amount of health benefits the
straight-up three day fast we're just
drinking a little like lemon water
throughout the day to stop your stomach
from churning and Baker's never done
this before yeah
dude three days and see how it feels you
know and then wait wait a couple of
months do five days see how that feels
I think the longest I've done was 21
days and that was hard
that was harder 21 days in modern
American culture fasting yeah I mean you
know right around I get me on Saturday
20 men you prune the hallucination
that's so crazy and stuff in New York
one thing just walking around but it's
your body's purifying yourself and what
you have to remember too is that when
you're fasting
you're going to be losing weight you're
gonna be burning up whatever body fat
you have every every emotional episode
that you've had in your life that that
produced an extreme emotional reaction
the chemistry of that reaction is
sitting in your fat tissue and you will
reappear Ian sit at some level and you
have to be prepared for them you know I
mean you know I'm never last
where the fast I did after my
grandfather passed away well it was an
amazing like just it was right on the
heels of my grandmother passing away
that should happen with the month like I
fasted in in October for ten days and
then my grandmother passed in November I
was extremely clear for her passing and
felt that ease with it but through the
whole thing I was I was experiencing my
grandfather that really passed away two
years earlier
re-experiencing the whole three-day
turmoil so people have to keep in mind
that you know your body stores all of
your emotions chemically and that will
come up and fascinate and that's an
opportunity for you both to re-examine
those experiences and also get closure
sometimes what would you say about
caffeine because for those who aren't
prepared being addicted to whether it's
sodas or even coffee like one day
without it and then you're trying to
fast can be very discouraging because
those headaches that come from caffeine
withdraws it could be very discouraging
with all fasting is you start off in
preparation so you stop eating meat eat
only vegetables and then you start you
know so let's take five days before fast
you stop eating meat around day three
you're only eating vegetables you're
cutting out coffee at the same time so
you've got a couple of days before you
get into the fast without coffee or
really anything nicotine all that's
going to be an issue I mean I know I I'm
Italian so let your coffee like a man
drink espresso like it's going out of
style I mean really switched over as
I've gotten older to decaf and luckily I
found some good detest that yeah doesn't
make me feel like I'm missing anything
sometimes it tastes but uh I would say
going into any faster definitely it's
it's it's dropping a meat going all
vegetables and dropping the caffeine's
at least three days before you get into
you're fast and you should be okay I've
never really experienced any hardcore
caffeine withdrawal but then again I
don't lends myself a bit a few like the
few times a year why would you stop okay
only because caffeine will well the
first day man it could be it could be
bad yeah bad those headaches yeah yeah
definitely weaning yourself off just you
know maybe just you know yeah you just
you just gotta win yourself just start
drinking less and less and less until
you're not drinking it for a day or so
and then try the ass cuz like a lot of
people go they I'm not
the man I had a killer headache I can't
fast it ain't for me well it wasn't the
fast it was it was the caffeine
withdrawal so you have to build yourself
up to that has definitely wisdom in that
in a lot of people great little piece of
wisdom if your body is hurting it's
telling you it something needs attention
so if you stop drinking caffeine and
immediately your body gives you a
headache it's your body telling you that
your adrenal systems are probably little
messed up and you need to back off the
caffeine for a while it's a good thing I
mean I love a great cup of espresso will
get me wrong it's a vice one of the few
that I have left but it's a straight up
vice but a few times a year I recognize
that my system starts to get a little
going and and I'm also you know coming
to the idea I'm a middle-aged now I'm
not young anymore so reality there is I
should probably be drinking less
caffeine and keep my heart healthy so I
do at least three times in years stop
for a month no caffeine
just my adrenal system get back together
let my heart rest from it and then when
I do go back it's like you know cup of
tea in the morning and maybe if maybe if
I'm having it I'm gonna teach it if I'm
teaching at night I'll definitely get a
espresso around three o'clock keeps me
goin till 9:00 you know yeah I was um it
was weird for me trying to get used to
it because like my old schedule when I
was a truck driver I had to get up at
like 1:30 a.m. I drank coffee and I
could drink coffee throughout the day
I'd use it to stay awake at work and
even I would come home and do a podcast
late at night and drink a big cup of
coffee and I was so exhausted I could go
to sleep like I could drink the coffee
and just go to sleep just because I was
waking up so early and staying up so
late and missing so much sleep like I
was doing that for years and now that
I'm not doing that I'm not doing that
job anymore it's different I'll try to
drink that same cup of coffee in the
evening and I'll toss and turn in bed
and not be able to get to sleep for
anything man oh yeah I started off in
the printing industry and that industry
you started 5 a.m. in the morning and
everything is rapid-fire on deadlines
ice ice a mainline coffee I would just
drink 16-ounce cup of coffee I'd so like
to at least some lunch money though so
you got six hours there and I'm banging
through a couple Club basic 16 ounces
every hour yeah that did not do me any
favors from junior the same thing come
9:00 o'clock at night if I wasn't
drinking more coffee I was crashing no
good eat anybody spiritual breaths yeah
definitely you're not supposed to be
addicted to anything man especially when
it comes to like I definitely enjoy my
coffee but if you're addicted you know
could you stop you know what I'm saying
and that's the part of the thing so by
being mindful man and not not letting
anything control you using everything
for it's it's it's benefit and you know
I'm saying what it can pretty much be
used to help you but yeah coffee coffee
it's a big thing if you're gonna be fast
and just take that advice it's that it
still happens to me but no I've
experienced some really really cool
breakthrough through fasting and big
opportunities that always seem to happen
after I get done with the fast something
happens there's a scripture in the Bible
that talks about like there's a cert it
says certain demons can only be cast out
through prayer and fasting and uh and
it's debatable like that that that verse
is in all Bibles they take that out but
I think that's a big one if there was
saying there was certain types of
unclean spirits or whatever we want to
say you know the ancients may have even
believed that those were toxins in your
body and like different types of
parasites in your body and things you
know that only come out through fasting
like isn't that legit though like if you
you have to clean yourself out of the
toxins that are only gonna come out
through fasting they're gonna live in
you and I've heard stories heard stories
I haven't experienced this but they say
that you know parasites will come out of
you when you're fasting you know you're
in that seven seven day fast or whatever
I've heard stories from friends of mine
who who have told me about it
everybody's got floaters in your eyes
they look around what's like yeah
piece of material
past your optic nerve as I fast and
throughout the years I've lost those and
I had a friend of my children said we
know there's a good chance of those are
parasites that work their way out I just
the idea that is a little freaky you
know idea comparison yeah it is pretty
enough yeah it's pretty freaky but I
think um I think over time yep forget
you know we we have so much bacteria in
our systems that is beneficial and also
things that are beneficial they have to
work yeah so yeah I think you know a
good hard core part of any mindfulness
practice is going to be the things that
we do for ourselves I mean I am my
family is not vegetarian I struggle with
it because I cook for them and you know
so we would lean more towards that
Arianism then we don't I'd like those up
to me I'd be sure the vegan but you know
I just put it's healthier but we need to
do these things in terms of a
mindfulness practice to eat what is best
what is clean what you put into yourself
really sets the ground for who you are
yeah you're not you're not going to be a
guru if you're sucking down coke I know
right it's so it's difficult is that it
is difficult in our in our world to
really seek a spiritual practice without
considering will actually spirituality
without considering dedication to a
practice dedication to a life stuff you
know and it pays off I mean I gotta say
you know right now yeah despite the fact
that I'm getting a little older and
maybe things take a little bit time to
heal like you know slower than they used
to this is the best I've ever felt in my
life
yeah so much so that I am NOT I'm not
scared of 60 or 70 or 80 I'm not scared
of those things like got on my friend
zone right now
this is the best version I've ever been
because I mean I'm going on 25 30 years
of practice physical culture you know
the lifestyle changes physical practices
mental practices ultimately you know
spiritual spiritual lifestyle as opposed
to spear
practice that sold the transition to go
from practice the full lifestyle yeah
that's good good stuff man
Anthony I appreciate you coming on the
podcast hanging out with me you've got a
new book coming out next month if you
want to go ahead and plug it let people
know where they can check out your work
and actually read those blogs and stuff
that we mentioned as well about fasting
where you go into a lot more detail on
the blog there so I'm gonna go ahead and
plug your work man go ahead and do that
now I'd be great you can find me at
www.att.com/biz
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we got to go into
some of the martial art aspect of it and
we talked about that a bit with Matt
Bellaire incorporating the spirituality
from the martial arts into your life and
spiritual awakening being mindful man
one thing they just have an awakening
but then how do you stay awake how do
you not go back to sleep and for some
reason I mentioned I keep seeing the the
Freddy Krueger movies don't go to sleep
don't fall asleep you know how do we
stay awake how do we not fall back to
sleep it's funny uh there's somebody in
the chat here Dumbledore's are are
posted hit posted his address it's seven
seven second huh uh uh seven seven seven
seven seven Hogwarts School of
Witchcraft and Wizardry that's his
address Dumbledore
the blessing that Dumbledore's here with
us I really appreciate your work but
yeah there was uh I mean fasting man
fasting gets really deep and yeah be
careful going into it it's easy to get
discouraged with the the caffeine
withdrawals it hurts really bad home
sauce says I'm addicted to water I think
that's a good good healthy addiction but
obviously you should uh you know you
should have the moderation with that
water as well because people have died
from overdosing on drinking water I've
heard people on job sites getting this
out there working in the heat and they
drink too much water and die from it
that was crazy um we had a question a
while ago someone asks I think it was
Dumbledore as well but how do you get
over the fear of judgment from others
the fear of judgments from others your
peers judging you friends judging you
family judging you it can hinder a lot
of people it does hinder a lot of people
a lot of my friends aren't
walking in there calling because they're
afraid of what their peers will think or
what their boss will think or what their
mom will think or their dad and I could
say that a hundred percent that they're
not walking in there calling in they're
hindered because of the fear of man and
what the Jesus talk about the fear of
man it's a you know over and over the
scripture says fear not for I am with
you don't fear man you know all of these
things because cuz fear can hinder you
men and it's definitely hindering a lot
of people beer from the judgments of
others the fact that the matter is
people are judging you already people
are already judging you so they're
judging you if you don't do what you
want to do within the judging you
if you do do it whatever it is you're
gonna be judged this is what people
people do people make judgments so
rather rather get judged for doing
things that make you happy
versus being judged for things are you
just being docile and just born with the
flow that's what I say is you're being
judged regardless so that's what I say
about the the fear the fear of man and
worried about the judgments of others
don't let it stop you there are great
things ahead of you you only have one
line
have one shot like don't you know don't
don't let it pass you by do what you're
supposed to do do what you're called to
do and don't let anyone look down on you
but their judgments and most of the time
when those people are lashing out it's
because you represent something that
they don't like within themselves it's
not about you it's something that they
have going on within themselves and you
represent that um so weird
it really is you you become a symbol of
the things that they hate about
themselves or you're going for your
dreams but they're too scared too and so
you when they see you walking in your
calling you walk in in your dream it
reminds them that they've given up on
their dream but they lash out you can't
do that trust me man even doing this man
we've had family even doing this as when
I lost my job and and tried to take
podcasting and my music serious and take
it to the next level and being able to
work from home and do this for a living
my wife's family it needs to get a job
you need insurance and just all these
reasons not to and they would just they
didn't tell me and they told my wife or
whatever but anyway she constantly heard
it and finally she had said look we're
doing this but trying to like find him
jobs and quit trying to do this and tell
him about the insurance and tell him
about this and that and like why are you
living for insurance like why are you
living just in case you get hurt that's
weird why would you work a job that you
hate or do a vocation that you hate just
in case one day you get sick you can pay
for it so you're living just in case so
you're gonna let your dreams fade away
just in case like I have to keep this
job because I make more money look
sometimes you got to do without you know
in order to make something happen but I
quite honestly say I have we haven't
done without we haven't we haven't done
without I thought that we were gonna
have to I thought we were gonna have to
you know stop eating out or you know
obviously I'm more conscious of our
spending and things like that now but we
haven't done without you know
I'll say go for it man whatever you
supposed to do whatever you're called to
do whatever your heart's desire is
that's calling you or you not to do that
is this I think it's a slap in the face
a slap in the face of God for one that
God gave you giving you these dreams but
you're too scared to fulfill them
whatever that dream is I mean I have P
and this is just universal I have
friends who their dream is to preach the
gospel full-time like that's their dream
and seek that dream do it walk in it
step out step out in faith you only got
one life but you know what if you get 60
70 80 years old and bleh and I wish I
would have tried it I wish I would have
gave it that one shot and that's kind of
what it was for me and I stepped out and
it's working I got the support of many
people who believe in my work who were
inspired by my music and then people who
were inspired by the podcast and it just
works hand in hand and it's beautiful
and I'm very thankful I stay in an
attitude of gratitude man that I'm able
to do this and I want to help other
people do it whatever their calling is
whatever they feel led to do step out
take that step of faith man as it always
happens I did us us that status the
other day it said uh setbacks or a
slingshot
minor setback for for a major comeback
like any time that's something you're in
a situation that feels like you're not
gonna get out of or you feel like you're
trapped
get ready something something good is on
the way you're on the verge anytime
there's a setback you know I lost my job
we could panic we could freak out we
took it as a sign took it as a sign to
to do this thing try to step out
full-time and it worked it worked it's
working um minor setback for a major
comeback could have freaked out wanted
to freak out everyone else would have
freaked out and ever we've been in
situations where we had but you learn
not to like you have to learn that if
you truly believe in God if you truly
have a creator who's watching over you
orchestrating your steps the steps of
the righteous are ordered by the Lord I
truly believe that your hands are clean
and your heart is pure you're doing the
right thing there's no such thing as
time miss or time loss you know
everywhere that you've been is a
situation and a chance for you to learn
every place that you're going it's gonna
be the same thing there's gonna be
people who are gonna be with you there's
people who are gonna be against you you
have to be the change that you want to
see if you want support guess what you
got to do you got to support somebody
find somebody get with them and support
them if you want an encouraging word
that's what start encouraging people
around you I start doing the things that
you want I'm back to you what you you
know be not deceived what's of
whatsoever a man soweth he shall also
reap reap whatever you put out is gonna
come back it's karma you're gonna so
what you reap
I mean even on top of there we'll be out
here reaping where we didn't so that's
the best of favor for a god that's what
it is man whatever you want you can
create it start it do something today
that's gonna bring that into fruition
I'm gonna keep saying that because I
really believe it practical things that
we can do spiritual practices encounters
are so beautiful though life-changing
but it's not about the encounters it's
never a means to an end it's never it's
not a formula you know we always hear
that that it's not about just a formula
or having it all figured out or this is
the way that it's done and if everybody
does it this way it's gonna work out you
know there are some things that work for
others that we're trying to do and it
doesn't work for us we can't this week
we can we can mimic the principles but
we can't mimic the formula we can't look
and say okay this is what he did you
know I'm gonna do it and it's cuz I'm
gonna be a come-up whatever you have to
find out what you're called to do and
then like we say that the two greatest
days in a person's life is the day that
you're born and in the day that you find
out why you're born to know what makes
your heart beat like what encourages you
what pushes you to keep trying
what makes your heart tick man do that
whatever you got to do to do that
accomplish that to make it happen and if
you're helping people it's gonna pay off
man it's gonna pay off I'm telling you I
believe it with all my heart this isn't
this isn't some whim isn't something new
I've been working a whole life to be
where I am now
I've been working and I've I think
that's what you guys are doing - I don't
think there's there's any time that it's
lost or any situation in a place that
you've been in whether it was a
relationship whatever a job whatever I
get all adds to that person that you're
becoming you need you there was
something that was imparted to you to
your character that you're gonna need in
that next level and that next season
you're gonna need you're gonna need
something you're gonna need to know
long-suffering that's me you're gonna
need to know patience you're gonna need
to know virtue understand there's things
in situations that we go through in our
life that build with that character that
helps us maintain it you can easily
create something but maintaining it is
something else as well people I hear
self-sabotaging can you maintain it part
of the maintaining of it the cultivating
of it but the maintaining is what we've
been talking about today mindfulness
NACO bear be mindful stay mindful how do
I stay mindful how do I keep it I don't
want to lose it I what build on top of
it and there's so many things that you
can do to lose it I mean look at
Roseanne he lost her show that came back
you know it was a hit
Roseanne Barr show you know he lost it
with a tweet how do you maintain it
there's things that you can do that will
pull you out of that season there's
things that you have to get right that
God's beckoning you to do calling you on
your heart but you're afraid of the
judgments of others you're afraid to do
it you have to do it you're not gonna
get anywhere until you do it I don't
know what I'm supposed to do I don't
know go to the last thing that God told
you that last inspiration that you had
do you know what it was told you to do
it do it it's been my journey I'm just
sharing my truth what's worked for me
guess what it's always been breakthrough
once I get over it whether it is a fast
some of you guys have been called to a
fast some of you guys have been called
the fast music fast other things that
are killing you that are harmful that
are destructive in your life
relationships to kind of step away from
people who you know most of us out here
look like chameleons man we get around
people and we start doing what they're
doing we start talking like they're
talking we have to be the ones to change
the atmosphere we have to be the ones
who turn off autopilot turn off the
fault and take advantage man take
advantage of the situation and bring
people out of the place that they are
that's the power that we have through
spirituality through Christ and
understanding who we are and I'm telling
you man once you burn with passion and
desire and you find out what you're
supposed to do and you burn bright and
you shine bright men will come from all
over the world to watch you burn
whatever it is whatever it is like I
said you know in it was a level of envy
there for me or early on when I was you
know feeling like that truck that I was
driving was a cage eventually man
because I had so much more in me that I
wanted to do and release and I would try
to do it at home but I have to step out
and do it and I don't care what that
person was doing as long as they loved
to what they were doing I was envious
and I want to do what I love doing for a
living what if I had 40 hours in a work
week to put towards building a podcast
what if I had 40 hours a week to put
towards my music in these thoughts like
man I'm building this person's dream in
this person's golf or for 40 hours a
week what if I had 40 hours a week to
put towards what I want to do man what
can I get accomplished man I couldn't
even fathom that and it would it would
drive me to jealousy and envy
you have to catch that
by the otter and sat into the jealousy
sat into envious you bitter you broke in
but you have to be mindful see if you're
mindful you're able to catch those
things oh man okay eating bitter okay
what what can I do with this okay
don't let it set in okay I'm getting
envious what can I do can do what
they're doing I can do that it's I can
try at least try to do it because when I
get to be 7080 I don't want to look back
and say I wish I would have tried do it
now create it your whole life has been
building up to this point this is what
you're destined to do I'm telling you
it's all gonna be worth it everything
everything is all gonna be worth it in
the end everything that you've been
through everything that you've been
you've been questioning and in and the
heartache and the trial you've learnt so
much stuff you learned what not to do
you've learned how to treat people
you've learned not to gossip about
people you've learned not to slander
you've learned to suffer with those who
are suffering as the Apostle Paul says
you've learned to become all things to
all men that you might win some and if
you haven't learned these things you're
going to continue to go through the
cycle keep taking the test until you do
if you're on the road to spiritual
awakening if you have breath in your
lungs if you're watching this now you're
gonna go through that it's something
that you were got you guys resonate with
and I want to see it like it would the
burden was so strong for me to do what I
wanted to do for a living that I began
to weep on the inside when I seen people
stuck at dead-end jobs even before I was
doing this like to see my boss you know
what I'm saying 60 years old
and just bitter and mad at work just mad
at the world he didn't want to be a you
didn't want to be that when he was a kid
he gave up on his dream you see all
these people just stuck in these
situations man they gave up are you
gonna give up have you given up don't
give up don't give up I've said I've
literally sat on it on the job at a
customer's store waiting for it to open
to deliver parts at 7:00 in the morning
and just cried thinking when do I give
up on my dream what age like when do you
give up beginning up there an age thirty
years old when did you give up really
like questing young I mean when did when
do you give up should I give up so I
quit is it a pipe dream you know what
I'm saying you have to you have to be
mindful you have to really approach it
you have to ask all the questions so
that you know nothing goes overlooked is
this a pipe dream like can I make a
living doing this am I gonna help people
like I love I've cried over and many of
you guys have spent hours sleepless
nights crying going through that pain
going through the heartache and just you
just want what you just wound up at a
job you're just there it's been some
years now you have no idea how you got
there it's not what you want to do
asking for help there's help learn
everything that you supposed to learn in
that situation I don't think you're
there by mistake I know you don't want
to be there I don't think you're there
by mistake but learn the lessons what
God is trying to impart to you in that
season and it could be many seasons at
the same job learn everything that the
Lord has for you learn it and then start
applying some of these principles
you know we talked about planting a seed
that planing of a seed might be sending
an email that planting of a seed might
be starting an Instagram and promoting
it that planning that planning the seed
may be buying ad space on a website you
know what I'm saying whatever you have
to do if you believe in it the Bible
says that where your treasure is there
your heart will be also
but don't tell me you believe in this so
you want to do that or I'd love to do
this and you're not spending your money
on it you're not giving your attention
to it where your treasure your treasures
your money was your where your treasure
is your heart will be also like I say it
many times
I'll tell me you have a heart for
children in Africa well tell me you have
a heart for the homeless if you've never
spent any of your hard earned money to
help those people I got friends even one
of the guys who actually led me to the
Lord years ago he they had this weird
mind set and it's through the prosperity
gospel that that one day they're gonna
be millionaires and I hope they are I
hope they do god bless them they hope
that that they're gonna be millionaires
one day in it and then they're gonna
help the needy they're gonna build
orphanages they're gonna feed the hungry
when they got money they got food they
throw away they got there's all kind of
stuff that you could do right now and
feed the hungry so don't tell me you're
gonna feed the hungry when you win the
lottery that's just weird
don't tell me you're gonna feed the
hungry when you win the lottery if
you're not feeding the hungry right now
doing what you can that's the principle
do something today and the Bible says
that if God can trust you with the few
the little things I can't trust you with
$50 how's he gonna trust you with 50
million God can't trust you with $50
how's he gonna trust you with five
thousand you got to be faithful with the
few he'll make you ruler over more those
this is a universal principle but if you
want to take God out the equation of
what like this is universal you have to
be a good steward with what he has
already given you take these two dimes
together rub them together make a
quarter you got to be able to make
something happen man what he's already
given you use the tools that you already
have he's already given you things that
you can do in your life right now I
don't be you're looking for like for an
answer you're looking for like you want
to ride somebody's coattail you want
somebody to put you on go ahead and cut
that out right now nobody's gonna put
you on if you want something you got to
make it happen
everybody wants somebody to put them on
or I'm gonna get a feature or somebody's
gonna retweet my post or whatever they
you want someone to do that yeah that's
awesome if that happens but don't let
that be your your your in dollar like
you're waiting for somebody to put you
on I can't tell you guys man like I used
to do gospel rap concerts here we throw
concerts we throw big events and and and
we'd get hundreds of kids to come out
man
300 kids to come out to our event that I
booked that I put together that I made
the flyer I promoted and I got other
bands to promote and and there will be
people who just want to ride my
coattails or be in my presence because I
can let them open up on that concert if
there was no concert that person wasn't
around
they knew that you're making moves you
have these people who come around they
want to ride your coattail as people are
riding in your boat but they're not
helping you paddle man you got people
who's riding in their boat with you and
they're drilling holes hoping this mug
sinks so that they can take it they want
what you have
got to understand man we got all these
people in our lives and we've talked
about this on the on some of the last
shows that we've done especially the one
with with Jazze but you know we we have
to build a team we have to build a tribe
of people who play not to our strengths
but even people who play to our
weaknesses have people in your life who
are good at the things that you suck at
we got like if I'm a motivational
speaker I'm a podcaster you know in
you're gonna like attracts like those
people are gonna come Adam star seed
base here Christy Lee's here both have
radio shows home sauces here you know
we we all have radio shows or have had
radio shows you like attracts like those
people are going to come um but if but
if nobody knows how to run a podcast if
nobody knows how to promote a podcast
all of these podcasters or motivational
speakers are showing up like this
there's only little week there's only a
little we can do for each other but find
those people that's good I love you guys
what's build just keep building but we
need other people like I said I'm gonna
put it out there again I still need
people to make snippets of my podcast I
don't have time I don't like it's really
hard to do but that's a really valuable
thing that I need but I I can't do that
and keep creating and then go back and
edit and find snippets and schedule
shows and email people and edit and
write the blogs and do the graphic are
like all of that stuff you have to find
people who are good people who can do
that or teach them if they don't know
how to do it teach them and part that to
them give that to them who can play to
your weaknesses and even stuff we don't
know like publicist and all kind of this
that just there's a place where
everybody is what I'm saying
and you have to find those people who
compliment you people who can help you
not people would turn you down and
talking behind your back and they want
what you got look now get them out your
show get them out your boat find those
people who can help you they're out
there they need a place to
like there's a there's a place for
everybody you know what I'm saying this
is a body the Bible talks about the body
of Christ and that body is an example of
how we are when we come together we
formulate literally Christ manifested on
the earth when we come together we are
what is called the church the body of
Christ or we come together it says not
all can be the head not all can be the
hands not all can be the fingers what if
you had 10 fingers on one hand and the
other hand was just you know it'd be out
of balance you have to find your place
and we come together we're able to
function able to move ever to pick
things up and move it if everything's
functioning right the wrists the hands
to feed the eyes the ears the mouthpiece
everybody man but there's we're just in
this weird place and I'm telling you
like especially in religion man it is so
bad and that's one of the reasons I
totally came out of Christian rap and
Christian evangelism it's so cutthroat
man
those people are cutthroat if you
disagree with anything that they
disagree with they'll cut your head off
like they everybody's once everybody
wants a platform like and they're
cutthroat about it not to your face they
love you to your face but like behind
the scenes and behind your back and
sleight man you out here entertaining
all these people who apply in your
demise man people who are jealous of
what you got man and I found that in
Christian you would think that that
would be the furthest thing from
Christianity that that kind of stuff was
going on but that was like gossip and
bitterness like the church is known for
being gossipers oh did you hear what
someone so did did you hear what they
believed did you hear what he said
oh this that that you know what I'm
saying and you can get caught up in that
you know and that's it's not good it's
not gonna help you it's not gonna
benefit you so why - you're entertaining
watch the people that you have walking
with you you want people that's gonna
help you succeed you want people who's
gonna play to your weaknesses and even
play to your strengths as well you're
gonna have people around you who are
gonna be doing the same thing as you you
know don't be don't don't don't get like
those people in church
they like scared to share the platform
with you or like they're scared you're
gonna take take their fanbase and all
kind of weird stuff man that I've put up
with in church that's it's so weird to
go back and think that in church said
that stuff was going on
Dumbledore on here says the natural
world is cutthroat yeah it definitely is
but I'll tell you like when I would like
what when I got out of that or started
working with other artists like the Lost
Children of Babylon LC o B who had way
bigger platforms then these Church kids
these church guys you know they had way
bigger platform and these people were
willing to work with me and willing to
put me on and like was so weird but it
opened my eyes and in a huge way it
opened my eyes to see that uh what was
going on and what I was entertaining and
things like that so
you know go go where you want it go
where you need it I can't find what I'm
supposed to be try out here all time I
don't know where to go I don't look
there's somebody needs you man and you
need somebody if you think you could do
it all by yourself you're gonna plateau
out you're gonna reach a ceiling you
can't do it all you don't like I said
you only got 24 hours in a day it's only
so much you can do in that day
only so much that you can do there's
good people out there there's people we
need each other we are our body for a
reason every single one of you guys a
lot of people look up to me
they need me that's understandable but
guess what I need you guys to my friends
many of you who support me on here many
of you who are praying for me who
believe in me who say encouraging words
about me who promote my podcasts and
tell people about the works that I'm
doing like every little bit I need all
of it we need each other we need we need
that um it's called discipleship in the
Bible so with that being said Thursday
nights you know if you guys want to link
in with us and what we're doing and what
we're building but to really cool people
it's not just me bunch of really cool
people join me on Thursday nights at the
School of the Mystics right now we're
doing a course by Rick Joyner it's a 50
days for an enduring vision we're doing
that right now I don't know if we're
gonna finish the 50 we're probably going
to find something else to to get into
soon but uh it's working right now so
we've had some really cool courses and
studies that we've done together the
first one that we did was magnificent
and I'm probably gonna find one very
similar to that good stuff we're
learning how to prophesy learning how to
be that inner intuition that a lot of us
are gifted in spiritual practice and you
can hear the voice of the Holy Spirit
you can be around someone and pick up
what they're going through you know what
they're going through they don't even
have to say a word to you just know
we're teaching you how to respond to
that how to hear that inner guidance
system that inner intuition and how to
be out even in a marketplace being out
wherever you are to be used wherever you
want to be whatever you you have to be
mindful you have to be mindful you have
to be you have to want it right you have
to be conscious of it aware and we're
teaching you how to do that we're
setting up a safe place that we've been
doing to get into prayer and being able
to do readings we get off into groups
and we do readings there so if that
sounds like something you want to do
make sure you check out the school of
the Mystics every Thursday night 7 p.m.
central go to my website get access
there go to patreon.com/scishow Seeger
or
dollar dollar month it gets you get
access you get the codes you get my
music you get all types of cool stuff
but it's the community aspect of what
we're building and so again from the
bottom of my heart I really mean it I
know I say it all the time I make sure I
say it all the time
but it's the real deal we need each
other I'm here for you guys I love y'all
I really enjoyed this episode and I made
the Spirit of the Lord bless you guys
man make you guys everything that you
touch prosper those dreams that you have
will come to pass like whatever the
scripture says that if the Lord builds
the house is gonna stand but if the if
you build it if man builds it it's gonna
crumble so make sure that this is the
spiritual practice behind it get with
God man get with your Creator he created
everything all of this stuff that exists
doesn't happen without your Creator get
that relationship right with your
Creator tap in tune in learn how to do
that make sure your next move is your
best move make sure you're on the right
path that's where synchronicity comes in
that's where meditation comes in that's
what prayer that's where worship that's
where all of this stuff comes in make
sure you're on the right path just so
you know you're headed in the right
direction on that ship with those
friends with those people make sure
you're building in the right direction
because you can build and have all these
great ideas but be working against
yourself but make sure you're going in
the right direction with what you want
to do find out whatever that is get with
people who can help you and add to that
so with that middle lord bless you and
keep you guys and make you prosper and
everything that you touch in Jesus name
love you guys
Shalom Shalom
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