The Mystical Side of Christianity | Daniel Lovett

The Mystical Side of Christianity | Daniel Lovett
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it what's going on my brother how are
you yes doing well yeah it's awesome to
connect with you Derek and just you know
to be part of what you're doing
truth seeker truth seeking you know
that's what my channel is about to you
know just honoring Jesus Christ who is
the way the truth and the life you know
amen and that the truth will set us free
so I saved my good friend and and these
are cool conversations too because this
is the first time that we're actually
talking we've been connected for some
time through mutual friends we have a
lot of mutual friends and especially to
the fringe and we mentioned Michael
Bastian them and people like that who
were connected through so this is the
first time that we're actually having
this conversation off of messenger so
this is organic first conversation that
people get to sit in on and just kind of
be a part of so it should be good yes
I'd love to talk about just encounters
with Jesus how he how he came to faith
and believe and just about you talking
about this mystical school thing you
know I'm reminded me of a time I went to
John Crowder's mystical school have you
are you familiar with John Rother yeah
for me with him yes have you been to one
of those mystical school no not how ok
yeah he does like these three day type
seminars where he he basically he goes
through all of his material all this
liberating truth stuff you know in a
very animated way he like performs his
books like you like live for you
especially with what the experience is
you know and it's like you know this
realization hey we are free as children
of God to explore and even visions of
heaven know hold bar-type type you know
were free children of God you know and
to experience just absolute bliss with
him I mean that's really what John
Kotter's mostly known for is just like
we're experiencing Jesus and you know
drinking the new wine and not just
sniffing the cork the new wine of his
presence wonderful times of refreshment
in the presence of the Lord as the Bible
says which I was always really captured
me fiction painting that picture being
baptized but fire and Holy Spirit you
know and all that good stuff that goes
along with it yes I'm definitely
familiar with him I've watched a good
bit of his work and I think like maybe
him and like Brendan bought up in the
early days of seeing that stuff when I
was in church and stuff and I was like
stay away from that you know and they
always caught you off guard you know of
seeing that kind of stuff at first and
then when you finally listen to what
they're saying once you get past what
you said they're kind of performing
there's a sense of theatrics there and
this is what they do this is their thing
once you can get past that which I think
a lot of that just kind of checks to
flesh which that's why I'm like my hats
off to Brandon in that area that he
checks the religious spirit at the door
like if you can't get past this then
there's no reason for you to walk
forward with me type deal which that's
what I see I respect that
but when you listen to what he's saying
and this will happen for me like most of
it was right on you know and it was at a
time when I got into Brandon's stuff and
even John's where I could receive you
know and most of it was speaking right
to my spirit and stuff and in so I was
it opened me up to listening to a lot of
what those guys had to say and come to
find out they like the grace that they
talk about in John Carter talks about
the grace flood and just mmm you know it
really really really beautiful stuff in
it that it was there was more to it than
just the show with theatrics or whatever
people want to call it some a lot of
people can't get past that they never
will I got past it even with the curse
words that Brandon kind of came with I
got past that because I felt like that
was a check if you can't get past the
curse words stay there we're going deep
or whatever and that's kind of what what
I took it as or whatever I read that for
that period of time you know yeah I even
thought about that tonight because like
you know I thought which is worse like
the actual fate of souls
or a curse word that might grab the
attention and startle somebody
intellectually like listening to you to
like save their soul from death type
scenario and to as you're talking you
know John the Baptist was real put off
you know wearing camels hair and out in
the desert and eating locusts and wild
honey and just being out there and being
whoever he was the personality that he
was you had to get a get past a lot with
him - back in the day and he was the
predecessor of Christ here I'm preparing
the way you know and his message was
vastly you know like like very different
from Jesus because you know as Jesus
says you know well John came neither
eating or drinking and yet you say he
has a demon and then Jesus comes eating
and drinking and you say he's a glutton
and a wine-bibber kid her reputation of
being a wine-bibber you know and making
120 plus gallons of wine you know for
his first miracle not to say that any of
us should be a drunkard I mean the Bible
says be filled with the Holy Spirit not
with not be filled with wine not to say
that wine is can't be a healthy part of
any Christians life you know but you
know with moderation and all and yeah so
tell me about tell me but I'm just
curious and I'm sure your listeners many
many of them maybe don't even know about
your first encounter with Jesus the turn
around what was your life like before
and and how did that whole meeting Jesus
happen for you can you just share your
story real quick
yeah well by the way to our listeners I
just discovered too that we share the
same birthday yeah right yeah God
totally put a you know Derek on my heart
and like to contact him and reach out
and and then and then come to find out
so tell us about your story yeah man I
go into it a lot and a lot of detail and
just you know give the specifics a lot
on my show a lot so I don't want to beat
a dead horse but I will because it you
know it's a really long story but I'll
say that I came out of
the dark witchcraft of wanting to having
this belief in the supernatural and
being really drawn to the occult and
supernatural horror movies and stuff
as a kid and and it let pick pique my
interest in I started getting into that
stuff and I found occult books as a
teenager and started studying on my own
the Satanic Bible different things in
witchcraft but just studying it all
trying to find out what was truth and
then I went to a prayer meeting one
night I was living with my mom's
boyfriend and his son was a Christian a
born-again Christian and I had known
Christians my whole life but this
something was different about this guy
you know he took me in almost almost of
the father man he kind of became a
father to me that I didn't have growing
up you know took me under swing took me
to play basketball to work out you know
what I'm saying
just spent time with me man you know and
uh so he took me under his wing and he
would always invite me to church and I
didn't want to go because I was
infatuated with dark music and you know
the occult stuff like that so you always
invited me to church but I thought it
was corny I knew corny Christians
growing up didn't want to go so finally
after all these times I've invited me
he and ended up inviting me to a prayer
meeting and a Bible study I was like I
didn't want to go to a prayer meeting or
Bible study either you know but he said
there's gonna be a man there and this
man he's the Prophet I don't he said you
might want to come I think you'll like
it I said well what's a prophet not only
I've never heard that you know I was a
chanting I was 13 at the time he said
well a prophet is kind of like a
Christian psychic that's what he told me
and that piqued my entrance like um its
interest oh you know I was like yeah
Christian psyche let me out come why not
you know check this out so I went there
and they were there and they had this
little small meeting at somebody's
apartment and all these people were
sitting up there listening in to CD
worship music worshiping God and they
felt they seemed like they were in a
different dimension like their odds were
closed their hands were raised and they
were somewhere else some of them were
crying they were just in this euphoric
state and like I used to smoke weed to
do that like I would smoke weed and go
to this
different places to escape reality but
these people were praising God and felt
and it seemed like there was a similar
type place man but so I noticed there
was something there and then one of my
buddies friends asked me he just came
over to me and said hey hey Derek would
you like to ask Jesus to forgive you of
your sins
would you like Jesus to forgive you and
I think like if if we're being rational
who wouldn't like who would say no like
no I want to keep my sins I'm not a
sinner like to really debate that in all
honesty I was like yeah I would love for
him to forgive me of my sins because I
haven't been in gangs and the occult all
kind of stuff that I knew was wrong you
know it's the dark side essentially so I
prayed a prayer then he led me in a
prayer of repentance and acknowledging
that Jesus died on the cross for my sins
and naming him Lord of my life and ask
him to cleanse me from all
unrighteousness and all of this and I
prayed this so-called sinner's prayer
and when I did I meant it and I started
trembling and shaking and crying
immensely man I felt this heat fervent
heat come over my body and I was just
crying his shape shaking and weeping and
and I felt like that fire went down to
the innermost parts of my being and
cleansed out all the wrong that I had
ever done all the lies that I told all
the drugs that I've consumed at that
young of an age cigarettes anything like
the hatred that I had for my pet my mom
you like my dad not being at all
everything that was going on in this
young person's mind biting a spirit it
cleansed it out it washed it out in that
fire went down and made it new and and
it was it was a beautiful trembling
beautiful experience and so that was in
night on 1998 and I were gonna follow
Christ then and started going to church
with with this guy and going to prayer
meetings every like we would go to
church and then after church we would go
to somebody's house to pray and we were
kind of we liked church for corporate
worship but we were ready to go back to
the apartments and stuff to lay on hands
and like see miracles and signs and
wonders and stuff like that you know so
that was like the my foundation of my
Christian experience so like anything
less than that doesn't cut it for me
like then then like as you start going
to church and stuff you find out like
hey they time that you gotta learn
doctrine you gotta do this and don't and
touch not and taste not and all this
other stuff and you're trying to
recreate these encounters with the
Living God and trying to grow in those
encounters but you're learning you're
giving up one bondage of the world to
receive another so you know that
eventually came with my walk as well and
I fell away from Church culture or from
not just church culture by fell away
from God and just got even deeper into
drugs and in the occult even deeper and
got into some things I got in really
deep doing witchcraft and invited
spirits and elementals into my life to
show themselves because I wanted to know
I knew the supernatural was real I've
always been intrigued with the occult
and then I found out that Jesus was real
and the light was real and powerful but
there had to be something to counteract
that if that's real then another soft
material so sort of making pact with
demons and stuff and ended up being in a
place that I started to go insane as a
teen I was 16 at this point doing
meditations opened up my mind the evil
spirits and I got possessed and I
started like hearing voices and seeing
shadows and spirits in my house during
the day and it was just got really
insane I got to a place that I didn't
want to be and I it's a long story but I
was it was the real deal like we had
entities forming you know in our myths
like like elements or demonic beings
coming after us and stuff and uh I
remembered I got so crazy headed man
like I begin to like the spirit of
hypochondria and I felt like I had
anytime somebody set a disease I felt
like I had it I'm super schizophrenic
I'll be watching television and
somebody's talking about brain cancer
somebody's talking about testkit
testicular cancer like I thought I had
it all just freaking out thinking I had
it like I really was consumed I mean I'm
I've got to
cancer I don't know what it was demonic
straight demonic but um I was gonna
being so crazy far out like that like I
couldn't go into public and look anybody
in the eyes cuz I thought people were
looking at me and talking about me and I
was hearing voices had to whisper in my
girlfriend's ear what I wanted to order
at McDonald's and things like that so I
got way out there and I told her I said
look I need to pray I gotta go back to
God we've been sitting at home watching
like TV and I flipped with the TV in and
I see Benny Hinn doing the healing
Crusades and they're just being the
glory with their eyes closed and singing
hymns to God and people falling out in
the spirit and they're crying and stuff
and I was like man that's real and
everybody at the house they were over
there smoking and drinking like man turn
that off man but part of me like longed
for that again like no man that's real
y'all they're like no it ain't real been
hints of fake man he's a fraud he's
pushing people man they doing this and
you know all the stuff you see on the
internet you know about Benny Hinn I
said no that's real man I want that in
my life and I would just feel that and
then I got so far out that I look I got
to like I got to come back so I ended up
getting way out there man like I need I
was at my wit's end I felt like demons
were taking my mind from me I um got in
the phone book and called every church
that I could in the phone book all of
them that were like Baptists are like if
somebody's of God or whatever because I
knew they believed in casting out demons
and stuff you know so I called these
churches and left messages on the
answering machine saying hey I believe I
got a demon I just need somebody to pray
with me can you call me back left my
number I called about 15 churches one
church called me back that Monday
morning the pastor came out met with us
and praying with us and stuff and
started bringing us to church and so
that night I said a prayer I got I was
really really sick coughing up blood I
would go in and out of trances that I
couldn't control like they would pull me
in these trances and I would see things
and hear stuff that I couldn't make out
I get cold and it was just it was bad so
I ended up repenting and went into my
room and my author and everything and
threw everything away man all my posters
my clothing my CDs all that stuff got
rid of it all sold what I could there
was some I think some of the CDs that we
was sold and a few witchcraft books we
saw I had a
and stuff sold it so I can buy some a
Bible and uh some Christian CDs I bought
the PIO d CD and I'm not uh Darrell
Evans let the river flow which was an
amazing city back in the day but yeah
from that moment on man just made a
decision to follow Christ and went
through deliverance ministry in her
healing childhood wounds and all that
stuff and this was like in September 7th
of 2009 I've been walking with the Lord
ever since that's good
that's that's awesome an amazing amazing
story you know you talk about P OD I
once I once when they're in their
earliest stages they came to a church
where I was living in Spokane and and
they gave me a CD because I was helping
them load the gear into the the church
and stuff so yeah p OD
but yeah I love your music - yeah you
sent me a link to some of your stuff and
interestingly do you talk about in your
healing - another thing the flesh my
head was like the word Sozo
means like saved like inner healed all
that all that stuff so so talk radio
it's my it's my show and Lord picked
that out for me I was like just what I'm
gonna name my show and and that's what
came to me I'm like okay let's go Friday
you know hardly what it means I know it
I think I kind of heard it in passing
one time maybe about the Greek word Sozo
meaning salvation interestingly it also
means imagination in Japanese so that's
the whole purpose of the show is like to
expand our imagination of who Christ is
exploring the depths of mysteries of who
Christ is and who we are in him spending
our imagination that you know and and
diving deeper into the truth of who he
is which is totally liberating the truth
sets it's freer than we ever thought you
know it expands so much man you think
you have like Network co-creators with
God and all this second it's like you're
ever growing in it though like your
knowledge of who he is and you know it
says his name is I you know I'm saying
the great I am that I am and I will be
whatsoever I will be and he becomes
whatever you need him to be like if you
need him to be a father figure he'll be
that if you need them to be your friend
if you need them to be
advocate if you need them to be your
your healer your provider like he
becomes all that stuff whatsoever you
need I'll be it and that's what that's
what y'all way is man and I've noticed
that and as we grow deeper we're gonna
you know explore realms of the spirit
realms of the psyche of desperation and
he'll become those things if like like
and some people may never experience
those depths that's that you know they
may never know him by the names you know
him as you know what I'm saying they may
never go there and that's fine that's
okay but um but he's all in all you know
all in all it's amazing when you think
about what I am really means I mean how
many of us can truly understand the
depths of that but for my for my
understanding of it as well like from
where I've learned and and this even
relates to some of the artwork on your
wall and your tattoo is even you know
about about Jesus being me all in all
Christ is all and in all and and that
what he pulled off on the cross uniting
all of broken creation the cosmos back
to himself reconciling the world to
himself not counting our sins against us
like anybody listening and watching to
this right now he's not holding God is
love the Bible says and love hold no
records of wrongs until he forgives and
he forgets he chooses to do that because
that's where he wants you he wants you
forgiving and knowing that you're so
forgiving that you can boldly calmness
about says into his very throne into
this very presence before the very
throne of your loving heavenly Papa
before his throne of grace and mercy to
receive your help in your time of need
and that you're warmly welcomed that ire
he's glad to see you know that God loves
us more than we think he does as I often
say and so that's that's pretty
brilliant
yeah unto man where did you uh what
where did he find you well I'll tell you
my story as a crazy one and I'll just
give you briefly briefly an account and
then and some of my encounters with
Jesus along the way which
is really like the benchmarks for me the
encounters with Jesus have been yeah
very pivotal and one the first one that
ever happened to me I mean I grew up
kind of in a Christian home but it's
kind of like a very dysfunctional home
to both my parents I don't know they
were into themselves a lot and and maybe
you need to send - and yet we still
would go to church but there were all
this is very lifeless and kind of you
know like you know I had the thought as
a kid going to some of these church just
like why would anybody do this to
themselves it church doesn't meant to be
like that folks okay first of all you
got to find a church that's alive and
growing and like like.he like derek was
talking about you know getting those
prayer meetings with some real brothers
and I like really diving in and that's
what that's what Derek's a bow it's what
his channel is about is like let's
expand our that's what my channel is
about - let's expand our experience of
who Christ is and who we are in a minute
brilliant absolutely brilliant
so my first encounter was as a young boy
kind of struggling with pornography my
neighbor introduced it to me and Here I
am struggling with it and I'm out my
tree house you know and God actually
comes to visit me like the the energy
presence of a loving Heavenly Father
like no condemnation just love and like
he says Daniel if you persist down this
road you know pursuing you know seen in
pornography I have to hand you over and
immediately I understood what he meant I
knew that he meant the Romans won the
handing over process you know your
persistence in he's like as much as I
want to hang on to you I have to release
you to what you want your will be done
you know kind of situation just never
good situation that's why we ought to
always pray the Lord's Prayer your will
be done
yeah sure we'll be done
it's the most perfect pleasing wonderful
thing but the yeah if we persist in our
disobedience and sin he was like okay I
have to release you and I didn't make
the right choices after that like like
this his presence was so be
was so wonderful I had the most clear
picture of who God truly was in that
moment but we were soon to be a strange
because I was making poor choices and
the next poor choice I made in that
direction
a demon entered my life you know and
tormented me for many years you know
what it's like obviously and yeah I was
a demon of lust there's a demon of lust
and it would drive me to do the sin and
then you know and and all this kind of
stuff
and torment me I think I got so bad that
I was like cutting my arms and I'm like
I hated myself a bash my head with rocks
I'm like I hate you today you know and
just saw this self-loathing and hatred
and shame and and that that ran my life
and I you know I'd made worst choices
you know girlfriend living with the
girlfriend and all this stuff and
finally it came to the point where God
started to reach out to me he's like
started giving me dreams
he showed me my future McDaniel if you
persist in this this is the degradation
you have to look forward to mother
handing over process coming up I'm like
oh Lord I don't want that I do not want
that and so as soon as you know then you
no more dreams and you're speaking to me
through like through the secular music I
was listening to like the words would
pop out and like this is how God was
getting my attention and so finally my
mom she dropped by a notice that I'm
praying for you and I love you I'm like
I called her up I'm like mom take me to
church so I she takes me to this Promise
Keepers event and I just told this story
briefly yesterday and in my interview I
interviewed a near-death experience
story lady who died and met Jesus and
the angel says pretty brilliant but
heard the story about at this at this
this Promise Keepers event they they
just you know gave an invitation to
become a disciple of Christ and I felt
like angels are like that to me yeah
keep going that's that's you buddy you
know I just totally sense that and I'm
like yes I want to do this and so I went
up on stage committed my life to Christ
to be his follower disciple and
from that moment on that I felt like the
back with the father and he has got me
under his wing and he's coaching me to
do the right thing you know like return
that stuff that he's stole you know and
do this and that and just led me
brilliantly from then on we I joined a
mission organization and just traveled
and went on a hitchhiking adventure with
God to New Orleans to preach the gospel
on the street during Mardi Gras I mean
on my own that's that was a really fun
story yeah it's a really fun story
that's funny you say that because my
mind directly went there when you said
return the stuff that you stole
we okay so when I was in witchcraft we
stood I will I lived in Louisiana so we
would go to Bourbon Street as teenagers
not for taking Mardi Gras or drinking
but we'd go there to visit the Voodoo
shops in the Voodoo stores and some of
them if you were slick enough you could
steal and we stole a lot of witchcraft
books over the years we thought we'd
wear the big chinko pants and sit stick
several books in our jeans or whatever
over the years and but then when I came
to Christ and then in just a couple
years ago probably three years ago we
took a trip to New Orleans and uh we
went to to Bourbon Street as believers
you know what I'm saying that we went
there and we had some business to do in
in new ones so we just went there to
kill some time and I went to the old
shop and I was wanting to pay them
people back and like it being like
probably 15 years and just to go there
and say hey 15 years ago I stole some
books from you guys here's 40 50 bucks
you know write and say I want to make it
right they don't know you that's cool
but just to do that just as a kind of
seals @eo type deal in like a level of
integrity where they wouldn't even know
and like a testimony you know yeah and
that's what it was to this lady I mean I
got into the wrong crowd you know
breaking into cars and stuff him and I
went back and knocked on her door and
she was just flabbergasted like she's
like god bless you and I'm like yeah he
has and he's he his and here's extra
money you know what I stolen stuff so
yeah to right the wrongs of the past is
important and
and it's yeah we talked about um Jesus
we talked about defying space and time
and there's no such thing as space and
time with him and cash your sins as far
as the east is to the west you know I
like to look at Jesus almost as a Tom
traveler as he gets to go back and undo
it as if it's never happening justified
you're justified by faith through grace
justified had never done it
I almost seen him as a Tom traveler who
goes back and rights the wrongs well you
didn't do that fix that's gonna happen
you know and that's really cool I'm just
wondering Derek if you have ever
experienced time travel yourself how
many of your mystical encounters look up
by the way I just wanted to say for our
listeners sake that mystic is a
Christian word Christian term it's one
who actually experiences God for
yourselves and every Christian ought to
be a mystic we all a lot to experience
God for ourselves so go ahead yeah my um
my Christian experience is pretty
mystical you know saying my relationship
with Christ and in the prayer o'clock a
closet in the hidden chambers is a
mystical encounter
yeah and that's how that's how life here
so I'm I I can identify with the term
Christian mystic 100% as far as going to
places where Tom doesn't exist that
definitely Tom doesn't exist so when you
spend time and meditation and deep the
deep realms of the Spirit you go to a
place where time doesn't exist Tom
doesn't matter and I've had experiences
with recently and this is very
controversial from from a Christian
standpoint but I've had some experiences
with um psilocybin mushrooms that
changed my life as a Christian a
Christian event we were listening to
Hillsong and Bethel music doing
psilocybin mushrooms at a men's retreat
about five of us in the in the woods in
a cabin and we it was just a
supernatural encounter with God amazing
and and talking about going to a place
where Tom didn't exist I felt like we
went to heaven or the place that we go
when when our souls leave this realm and
it was a weird place because it was a
place where Tom did
exist when you're in those realms and
it's just like being thrusted into a
deep state of meditation or a deep
trance state where the Bible talks about
trance States all the time I believe
that the disciples practiced trance
state I don't think it was like a
one-time thing where they're walking
down the street and they're just sucked
into a trance and they look up into a
vision I don't believe that at all I
believe that they were very mystical I
believe that there is full yeah they
spent time in their prayer closets and
you got a glimpse here and there in the
scriptures of what happened the first
time we get a glimpse of what happened
with Jesus in his prayer chamber he's
meeting with Moses and Elijah and he's
brought other people with them so
they're able to record what he's doing
while he prays usually he just goes away
to pray into a mountain on top of a
mountain but now we get a glimpse of
what he's doing he's meeting with saints
that have gone on before him you know I
think he's done that almost every time
meeting with his teachers man I can't
you know that's a picture there fella
you know I was very others had similar
encounters man so in in the deep runs of
the Spirit whether you're in deep realms
of meditation you're going into a place
where it it's focusing on the now moment
there's a lot of like spiritualist
teachers and stuff like Eckhart Tolle
who teach you to focus on the now moment
and this is where the power is this is
what you make things happen and this
dude is a millionaire from teaching
people to focus on the now moment and to
be present and those encounters on the
psilocybin those encounters in deep
meditation it's all about look quit
worrying about tomorrow and what did
Jesus teach us he taught us the same
thing that the past become quit worrying
about becoming something that I've
already created you to be you already
are there is no tomorrow you're not
because I always go in I'll be like Lord
I want to be this one day I want to be a
healer I want to just like no you
already are it's already within you we
just you just need to bring it out it's
not you're not gonna become it becoming
a grow into it it's the fact of bringing
it out and then like the scriptures
about Jesus talking about not being
anxious for anything those became even
some more real as I look
don't project your consciousness outside
of yourself to like I would do that if I
had a big event coming up with the music
I've played in bands I've done shows for
years now and and my mom would work like
that I would be so looking forward to
these concerts that I would just kind of
be an autopilot for a week or a month
and then I would be at the concert I'm
like man like I've missed all that time
focusing on this event now I'm here and
it's kind of selling me short like it
didn't meet my expectation but the time
that I could have been present with my
family with nature with with strangers
you know what I'm saying I missed that I
missed that time and so I see the power
of being present in the moment no matter
where we are yeah I had that thought
today I was walking like well another
thing I get to do is I'm entertaining
nursing homes so that's my day job I do
concerts of nursing homes and I was
walking out of today just had that
moment like being present enjoying this
spring day birds singing yeah you know
and all that and as far as as far as
trance is getting back to that you know
Peter had a trance where he was he was
told the Gentiles are part of this body
of Christ to go to Cornelius house you
know and that's what happened after that
and then Paul was in a trance and of
course the Rev the book of Revelation
John was in the trance he is in the
spirit on the Lord's Day worshiping in
the spirit you know and it's interesting
to just about you know where Paul says
I'm with you in spirit what if this what
if your spirit traveling from from a
local people when they tell me like if
we have an event or a prayer meeting
brother I wish I could make it I'm gonna
be there in a spirit well you know give
us an apparition man won't you show up
if you gotta be there inside you know
yeah I believe that that you know if
we're not experiencing it yet that we
will as believers you know I I was
praying for the teleporting thing today
you know like maybe to go see Michael
and Taiwan you know just to drop in and
you know spend some time there and I
believe that day is coming where that's
gonna be possible I have had time travel
experience it was it's really really
quite something I actually made a
youtube video of it it's entitled the
time I taught myself a song as you know
and it's true like like 12 years ago or
so I had a very vivid dream or I saw
myself playing a song I'm like huh those
are interesting cards but what song is
this it was it was the song from
revelation to him who sits on the throne
and went to the lamb yeah you know and
I'm like well that's interesting I woke
up and like what were those cards and I
went to my guitar and learned how to
play it yeah and then and then I kind of
shelved the song for about 10 years and
yeah then 10 years later I'm in a park
and I just heard about somebody
time-traveling you know in the spirit
with Jesus and I'm like learned that
would be nice that'd be swell to do that
and just laying in my car you know at a
park waiting for something to happen
nothing happened then but then I went to
my concert I'm like you know there's
this song that I haven't played in quite
some time I just broke it out recently
again to him who sits on the throne and
I'm I start playing and then I realized
oh my gosh I'm in the room right up
there watching me play my song to God
was answering my prayer about the time
travelling bit only it happened 10 years
ago yeah so yeah it's we have a fun that
was the Damned I learned more that we
have a fun and playful father yeah
deveneux a who who honors us as are and
really he seeks for us to be more
childlike and have fun with this this
life isn't be fun and enjoyed and God's
more fun than you ever thought he was
you know yeah yeah he just doesn't want
sin in our lives
Kasane is anti love sin is gonna hurt
you and kill you and destroy ya
addictions I'm thinking why in the world
would any of us need to sin think about
it if God is a good shepherd Psalm 23 he
leads us beside still waters so you got
more than enough
for water to drink I need let it makes
you lie down in green pastures you got
all the sustenance and food and
provision for your happiness and bliss
all around you enough to lie down in and
take a nap like this is who our God is
he provides free so richly why would you
think you need to provide any kind of
other happiness apart from him right
like that's where my mind went finally
it's like this is really a matter of
trust do you trust that do you trust
that he's a good shepherd that you have
all that you need for life and godliness
and plenty of fun too because in his
presence there's fullness of joy at his
right hand there are pleasures evermore
the Bible tells us wonderful times a
refreshment in the presence of the Lord
so let's like Mary who sat at the feet
of Jesus let's get into the presence of
the Lord like you said the prayer closet
the chambers as you referred to it yeah
so describe for you know our listeners
even like what are some of the best and
most blissful times you've had in prayer
closet in the chamber with God I don't
even know where to start you know what
I'm saying it's been something that
sustained me you know my whole Christian
walk you know and they've been just have
just a sweet inward knowing of just
sitting in silence peaceably still and
know that I'm God and by sitting there
reflecting like casting my cares and my
worries aside cast your cares upon him
free cares for you doing that and then
spending time with him like I could it's
usually for me the best time was like I
could be doing this but I would rather
spend time with you Lord and every time
I do that something powerful happens and
encounter happens not that I had to go
to church or I had to do this and had to
do it do that but when I could be doing
something productive even you know what
I'm saying but I say you know what I'm
gonna spend this hour this 30 minutes or
whatever and spend time with you or make
a do a prayer meeting every Thursday
night or whatever cases and make that
room it's something beautiful always
happened but I mean it goes from just a
small inward knowing to visitations like
having these inward
visions and seeing and being engulfed
with fire and glory with nobody touching
you and your crying and tears screaming
you know of him cleansing out the
innermost parts of your being just you
and him and your shaking and vibrating
four days later because they're so
powerful anytime the body mentions
anything about God I remember just being
so infatuated with Jesus from encounters
and I'll be they'll be listening to like
secular music and I play not change you
may put on so worship music like now
let's listen they're listening to
Metallica and I'm like many singing
about the Lord band and like I'm just my
consciousness has changed my perspective
has changed and so everything you know
what I'm saying it's like my whole view
had changed and that's what it does it
changes you you put your point of view
your reference and the way you view
things the way you view people you know
your enemies everything I mean I've had
all of them like I don't I don't even
know how it can be any any deeper you
don't understand like I've experienced
I've always said that like Lord if you
never spoke to me again I'm good
like I've got enough revelation enough
seen enough but he still does you know
it's like to cut it off there but I fit
it's almost and I'll say this cuz like
you don't want to get spoiled either
like you know and I mentioned this with
like a psychedelic encounters and stuff
because I have friends who would do that
and then they would just want more and
more and more and they want to go but
it's like you gotta you gotta be
faithful with with what you've already
been given in the psychedelic encounters
that we've done and it's all been on
just psilocybin mushrooms you pick going
to woods pick them up and eat them and
it been otherworldly encounters with
Jesus um it's it's been stuff about your
life to get get right your life path
path what you're supposed to be doing
and how to do it grace and you it's like
you just like you leave your body and
you look at yourself from God's
perspective so you got a lot of your
rough around the edges but I love you
you know I'm saying you look at yourself
from the
the standpoint but from somebody else's
eyes but it's not judgmental
it's not condescending it's a from a
place of love but you get so much
revelation there it takes months if not
years to really interpret everything I
remember after coming out of an
encounter than reading about Paul taking
the trip to heaven right and he says I
heard the voices of angels that and I've
seen things that I couldn't I'd be
sinning almost if I tried to to tell you
what what I seen that I can't put it
into words there's no way I can try cuz
you we can't like the you know I'm
saying the carnal mind cannot understand
the things of those realms if you go
that we think that when we die we're
gonna turn into spirit beings and we're
gonna look like this and I might have my
beard still and I'll just be wearing
white robes and flying no we're talking
about a place of energy man you're not
gonna have these body these bodies would
it's totally different and when you go
to that realm it is totally different
it's not the same search so to fathom
that
from going there Paul talks about in
Corinthians 12:7 I believe it is you
know going to heaven he didn't even know
if he took his body with him or if he
went out of body it was so real I've
been to those places man and to I feel
like I would be a brat to say I want to
keep going I want more you know
versified because I've got revelation of
like you need to get this right I've
given you a vision this is what you're
supposed to do do it but I do feel like
okay when it's time you can come back
like I feel like that that's welcome
there but to like keep going like I'm
just gonna keep going to that place
because I've got a endless supply of in
that case mushrooms or in the supply of
glory I can just approach the throne of
heaven whenever I want it's it's uh it
is that that free but it's there still
should be a reverence there you know
yeah and it's for the presence of
reference there man and respecting the
fact that were here on mission you know
when I when I was I'm very spiritually
curious much like yourself you know I I
research things I read search near-death
experience stories for
since 2014 you know I've been every had
a couple of them like I said but
out-of-body experiences too I've prayed
for them I'm like Jesus yeah
can I experience that and then the first
time I did the first time I did it was
brilliant I was like this is amazing I
mean but it's the fact of the matter is
when it's the first thing he showed me
on that first out of you know like lucid
dream in this case I woke up on the
other side with God behind me and
there's this beautiful ornate door in
front of me
and I know two things instantly when I
wake up in this state state first of all
I'm not manifesting that door that's no
dream door and that I want to go through
this door and so I travel I float
through the door and I hear the sound of
a rushing wind and and the first thing I
see actually was a grey alien who saw me
I just totally freaked me out by the way
myself was a Caelian and he saw me
turned and fled and and I'm like I'm
just trying to call my heart because I'm
like boom okay you know you know of
course I'm in spirit form though he
noticed that you you seen him yeah I
mean he left and then I heard God say
open your eyes and I'm like I just woke
up didn't I his point his point God's
point in answering that prayer of mine
for the for the lucid dream was hey
you're a mission here pay attention to
this you know your life has purpose and
you're like you're saying you're saying
the same thing you're meant to do
something here in this year events
physical world right now and to be able
to relate to all the other humans and if
you you know so the Christians of the
spacy New Age people be okay and have a
follow stuff but if you have nothing
practical man for the people dying and
struggling with addiction and suicide
bro or you gotta have something tangible
man for everybody and not just I know we
all have it if you have Jesus yeah it is
for everybody but just a you have to be
in a way of like willing to work with
those people and willing to
wind souls the scripture says he who
went Souls is wise and however
you-you-you can do it do it man to tell
people about your story and to get him
in and um this you know that some people
just want to entertain Christians and
church kids and churchgoers like I did
Christian hip hop for the longest and
every after every concert there was a
standing ovation there was a love
offering there was a pat on the back
there was an autograph signing it was a
merch selling after every concert you
know what I'm saying and but it was like
you're just entertaining the church kids
you know I'm meant my mute musically
it's like something bigger to step out
and reach people who have no idea who
God is you know and and it's happening
now you know after I've went out that
route and stepped away from what I knew
to be easier without what I knew to be
familiar and did something different and
once I did man it opened up a whole new
realm in like and the reward is even
more it's I'm not just an alternative to
secular worldly music now far as the
music is concerned like it's bringing
people into relationship who have no
idea who Jesus is who have no idea what
who Yahweh is or if there's a spirit
realm or that this you know there is the
universe the divine creator no this is
this is God man this is God who long for
relationship with you like he's not just
some far-out creator it's it's
personable man and like seeing people
come into relationship with that through
your obedience and through your story in
every place you've went to shape you and
mold you into the person you are today
it's insane bro it really is I didn't I
didn't know it would be like this
I didn't yeah and God God loves all his
babies you know those who are into the
occult and witchcraft II you know the
esoterics
the the new-age he loves you he wants a
relationship with you and it's so
wonderful to trust and be in
wonderful blissful relationship with the
source with who is love Jesus Yeshua
Allah Yahweh there's so many wonderful
names to describe this person like he's
like Derek was saying he is what you
need him to be his name is I am and I've
taught on this by the way each on this
about like the name he pairs his name I
am with things that he is for people I
am your peace
I am your righteousness by the way the
name of Jesus Yeshua yahushua trying to
say that full name means i am your
salvation yeah you know that's brilliant
it's brilliant he's a he is and he's
everywhere I am you know Jesus is the I
am that's the scandalous message of the
Gospel of John which which I see the
Gospel of John was like the core of the
Bible there you know it's introducing
you into this but this is the whole
point relationship restored relationship
with with your maker who is Jesus
himself you know Jesus the Creator who
made you for himself to being loving
relationship always so yeah but as far
as I want to touch on this this esoteric
the New Age I have a real heart for that
you know no matter what kind of grief it
causes me from Christians who don't
understand doesn't matter
I mean I'm gonna reach out to them and
will speak their language one thing I'd
love to touch on you have a tattoo of
the flower of life right yeah got other
stuff going on
yes whole issue of sacred geometry
sacred geometry belongs to Jesus just
gonna declare that it's the line all
right
it has wonderful meaning to me
personally as I've looked into it and
really when you unpack this thing oh my
gosh you're my and a lot of Christians
are not gonna get it because guess what
the Bible is true in ways that most
Christians cannot accept or refuse to
accept yeah be there yeah gee this is
the one who teaches these things man
Jesus is the one who got me into
anything that seems new age and esoteric
I don't even I don't even like the term
new age like right
exactly right the New Age is biblical
right what I'm saying but far is like
being into old things this is old this
stuff is old this is the stuff the
prophets and disciples had you know like
they knew about sacred geometry they
knew about the spirit realm they knew
about how to really bind and cast out
demons and they studied Solomon and
Jesus totally did he gave veneration to
Solomon in was in Matthew 12 and talking
about the spirits and stuff and like
they knew stuff that we didn't and so we
think that we Sunday morning Christians
got it all figured out man we barely
even scratched the surface what we think
it's pretty all of Christianity of now
man I you know what and in my honest
opinion I would I could look at like
Hinduism now for the religion but just
for the practice and what they do and
how they how spiritual these people are
that looks more like biblical
Christianity to me then what we have in
the West you know in these people who
would go when we talked about earlier
Jesus going into a mountain and on top
of a mountain apart who does that does
Bill Johnson do that lolani frisbee did
and he actually God used him to be like
the founding like like the the heartbeat
of Calvary Chapel and the vineyard
movement like Lonnie frisbee like and
just because he went up on the mountain
he was naked at the time and probably
tripping on something but you met God
and he came back packing God with them
and and and everybody sin stuff about it
to talk to him he had his issues Oh his
problems just like we all do like like
you know and but using the anointed man
of God nonetheless you know at David was
and he had his issues right King David
he's got his assets we got our issues
but everybody yeah yeah you know you got
to be able to tell a seat see past it
man we passed some of the stuff that the
flaws off you find the gold find the
gold and I do respect Bill Johnson and
and everything going on with that I do
feel like he's cutting edge as far as
Christianity I do - I do - I'm just
saying that I else just as even like
maybe one of the just like the pinnacles
for like charismatic prophetic voices in
our time right now and I'm a died I just
say that not to make fun of them but but
to say that Jesus went into the caves
Jesus went on top of the mountains and
that's what the Yogi's do the Yogi's
were found an old tree and get inside
that tree and spend a month fasting and
praying in deep meditation and
communication with something and it
looks like a lot of that stuff the fact
that those fastings like these people
still doing this stuff you know what I'm
saying and so it really that's kind of
what even gets me into syncretism a
little bit it's there like to look at
everything because in Christianity I've
been taught to to see what makes you
different we have an exclusive gospel
it's only for us and we're bringing this
to the world and there's a we have to
get it out because we have the truth and
I've been taught to like look at other
religions or even other let's not let's
not even go to the religions let's go to
denominations I've been taught to go to
other denominations of Christianity and
say why I was right and you guys were
wrong and you guys don't do the cyber so
you do do the Sabbath or you eat pork or
you guys don't believe in the Trinity or
Papa and the Scriptures that says to
mark these people stay away from them
the doctrines wrong I've been a part of
all of that and and and there's there's
really no peace there in the end you
know what I'm saying off and that's what
kind of leads me into syncretism as far
as not looking at the religion now or
people to say what makes us different
what makes you different than Joe Blow
I'm looking at the I'm looking at the
Hindu now say you know what this dude is
seeking whatever he knows to be God he's
been raised in this and he really has a
heart for people he loves people he
loves what he knows to be God even
though he calls them by different names
but the same spirit that's in me to seek
God I think he's putting in us maybe
even from birth you know - yeah I'm said
to uh to know him and and and to look at
the in the religion itself and see
what's in the heart of people and then
what's in the religions itself does that
makes a lot of this stuff the same as
that look well we're talking about the
same stuff we just got different
terminology for this stuff and we're
talking about the same stuff you know
weird that's why I talk about I talk
about psychic abilities a lot especially
in the New Age well that's those terms
those terms so okay we're doing it we're
doing a course right now by a Chris Paul
Lawton mr. Sutton yeah Valentine um
we're doing a course by him the basic
training for prophetic ministry and they
talk about psychic abilities but they
beat around the bush and they would
never use those terms it would never use
the term ESP extrasensory perception but
what they're talking about how to hear
the voice of God through your sight
sound inner vision inner knowing in your
body you can feel it like the New Age
has this stuff written down for you on
and they have terms for it in the ESP
and it breaks it down to a tee in this
or it's right on God speaks to you the
same ways now the people in the
Christian prophetic realms they will
teach the same thing but they'll use
different terminology and so I'm you go
to them and say well yeah I'm gifted in
ESP as well the Lord's been speaking to
me through vspeed owhh off with his head
you're done it's over get him out of
here you know what I'm saying so it's it
becomes this game of like this is ours
and Germans are arguing about words same
thing you know what I love about Joel
chapter 2 is that it says the Holy
Spirit will be poured out on all flesh
big and that's that's what happened
okay the Holy Spirit's been poured out
on all flesh you'll never see a human
that the Holy Spirit hasn't been poured
out on you know oh how well they're
cooperating with it or how long far
along they are in their journey of
discovering what they've been plugged
into because Jesus died on the cross and
wrapped the whole cosmos up into himself
and yeah something off and you know
reading that scripture today man well
what he said it is finished he actually
kind of sort of meant it he seems to
think he pulled something off there it's
not you know like it's our great joy to
unpack that you know and our unwrapped
that
like discover oh well who are you Jesus
really Who am I in you and this comes
back to sacred geometry even you know
when he says I am you know and then and
then it then he has he creates Adam
right by the way which the Bible says
the son of God
Adam was this the son of God in all of
humanity was wrapped up into Adam you
are the son of God and Jesus got into
trouble for saying he was the son of God
yeah okay because you know they they
didn't know what was up early
okay scriptures applaud us too man yes
and you know they said you're making
yourself equal with God because it yeah
you know which leads me to believe from
Jesus own teaching on the subject in
John chapter 10 that that you know he
quotes Psalm 82 and says have not I said
you are God Elohim is the word in the in
Hebrew you are Elohim and he's talking
to people you are Elohim you know plural
God like it's all like God really is all
in all like you're an extension and an
expression yeah in the world you're part
of him and so is everybody else who who
are totally denying it and when I are
experiencing a hell because of their
denying it they're denying this love you
know God is consuming fire it describes
his love right consuming energy ball
fire flame concern you know of love and
and if you're if you're at odds with you
know what you're in wait in him we live
and move and have our being you know it
hell isn't it is is unbelief in the very
presence of love itself that's just like
that you're denying you know they're not
embracing they're not calling out to
everyone who calls on the name of the
Lord will be saved yeah
you know and the name is not the name
it's not the pronunciation it's not did
you call upon Jesus well all right you
know the Hindus don't call them
the name it really is love the essence
of exactly a lot of my Christian
religious friends get mad because they
say they think we're making it too easy
like Oh Joel Osteen talks about love
it's got to be more than love because
good for Joel Osteen right no doubt but
like the I think it's more of like they
want to feel like they have a 1-up
though I think yeah that they're doing
something that it's Gnosticism that's
Gnosticism in religion in and it's
demonic it really is and that's really
what John and all like all the other
writers of the New Testament were
fighting against Gnosticism and here it
is rearing its ugly ugly head in
Christendom like the most well respected
will refined dot all our eyes and cross
all our T's Christendom you know that is
embraced Gnosticism yeah going back to
sacred geometry some people are comment
on that in the chat I guess I'll talk
about the Flower of Life not just
talking about what that means to me for
a minute the flower life which I have it
for those watching a video it's tattooed
on my forearm and I wear it on a
necklace most of the time it's a bunch
of circles interlacing all touching one
another creating this one sacred flower
of life and essentially means that we're
all connected that everyone is connected
all of these circles or wheels are
touching one another working together to
make this symbol for a believer to me it
represents the body of Christ how we are
all one part of one body you know what
I'm saying and then and in it and others
every one is an expression of you I in
like a silicon I am another you you are
another me you are another me
experiencing yourself and so a lot of
times whenever like maybe some of the
elementary stuff for me was
understanding some of the arts that I
would have what other brothers early on
and we would just get on each other's
nerves that's what the Lord would bring
down different roads we walk together
then he'd split us up and they go study
one thing I'd study another and we'd get
under each other's skin but the Lord
showed me that like the things the
reason they're getting mad and lashing
out is because you represent something
within them that they don't like about
themselves like a threat
there's too much grace there on your
truth seeker I can't have that much
grace on me because of this or that or I
will have to walk a fine line and you
represent too much grace and stuff like
that but to see everyone as an extension
of yourself it helps you to show that
grace to them because you want that
great shown back to you when you're
going through I'm saying your hard times
or you're trying to figure things out
trust me I've been there I've been in
the revelations chapter 2 exposing the
false prophets but have left the first
love like I've been there we've been
outside of churches with signs
prophesying against them that we've done
crazy stuff in the name of religion and
and I've persecuted people I've put
people's names out there and I've proved
them to be false prophets and stuff and
enough I've tasted that karma like I've
had people do that to me you know I've
had people come to me a true seekers of
false prophet now true seeker worships
the devil you know true seekers the
devil worshiper now now he's a New Ager
he's just in that and they can get dirty
and they don't they just write blogs and
come about you or just ghost you and
excommunicate you from their groups and
stuff and tell their people to stay away
from you
so I've done that and I know how it
feels to have it done - I know how it
feels to have whole congregations of
people talk about them so does Jason
Westerfield todd Bentley like these guys
under can understand that and appreciate
that stuff now so in moving forward it
lets you know like hey let me let me
think twice in going out there and say
hey stay away from this guy because he's
toxic even if he is I checked myself now
I have a hard time now trying to come to
a balance with that because I don't want
that karma well when I say karma you
reap what you sow essentially whatever
it is you
do dirt you get dirt that's what they
call it in the street whatever you put
out comes back to you so you out there
calling people false prophets you out
there hating on people lying and
gossiping when that stuff slingshots
back to you which is gonna do you can't
complain about it you have to do you
have to deal with that and so I try to
walk in that grace to like you know what
when I'm if I'm off on my doctrine I'd
rather somebody come to me and pick up
that phone and call me
or whatever you got to do first is
trying to expose somebody I've been
there and it's me and that's why I just
try to stay away from it as much as I
can but I'm trying to learn balance it
sounds like you're a lot like me because
you know I was just saying yesterday
that I'm totally willing to repent if
somebody comes to me with Scripture III
even in my last interview that I did
with near-death experience stories which
can be a dangerous topic to look into
because there's some deceptions going on
there yeah you know it's so like and
they don't always get it all right even
if they have a wonderful experience with
Jesus they can come back and they still
be involved in this or that that wasn't
right right and and and you will never
fully agree with anybody you interview
there's always gonna be something you
know and we're all trying to figure this
out together you know like the truth is
the truth Jesus is Jesus is perfect
theology he is mr. truth himself were in
relationship with mr. truth we'll get
sorted out in the end we'll get started
on in John and sometimes it's through
some chiselers some some persecuting
forces that cause a bration
iron sharpens iron and all that stuff
you know people may come against us and
that's gonna be part of our growth too
yeah and and I'm totally willing to
repent of any in all false beliefs
because I want I want to come into the
truth and understand Christ in all his
fullness and my identity in him as well
it's all it's all just brilliant well
you learn how you learn etiquette too
like you learn etiquette you you like if
you want to you have to show people the
same grace that that that you want shown
to you know and others not everybody
does that that could be hard but
understand this whoever you are if you
have a come from a place where you're
building a platform
or you up in front of people like people
get envious people feel like they
deserve your platform hey I went to
church with you for years who are you
any different
like I've been serving the Lord longer
you I know more scripture than you
you're in error in certain places you
shouldn't have that trust me that comes
to where they backed by tell people to
stay away from you and they try to come
against your platform and stuff that
comes with the territory you know and
even comes even more but I have to look
at I have that come against me even
still and like I'm growing I'm growing
daily
like what God is doing in the midst
right now I give him all the glory for
it I don't understand it but it's
happening and you have to adjust to it
you got to grow with them you know I'm
saying you got to learn so how many kind
of sending Facebook comments or YouTube
comments do you react to do you try to
get into it do you get into them with
seven a day what about the people who
talk bad about the way you talk what
about the people talk way bad about the
way you look call you Islamic terrorists
because you have a beard call you a New
Ager cuz you got a eyeball on your foot
on your hat call you you're too
religious because you said you love
Jesus like which you have to pick your
battles wisely I look at some of the
people who are doing it on a much larger
scale than me I look at let's look at
the Joel Osteen's or the creflo dollar's
I don't agree with everything those guys
teach but how many Internet debates do
they get in a day and how many but how
many bad articles and how many posts and
reshares and retweets did you get about
bad Joel Osteen exposed Joel Osteen the
false prophet the money-hungry pimp you
know all of this kind of stuff like
didn't people don't worry about that and
that's it you got to be like Bruce Lee
said be like water my friend
like you know the what's the quote the
uh it was something about this [Â __Â ] no I
don't say around but I know it's not the
wolf but it's like the the wolf doesn't
give
attention to the opinions of the sheep
or something I don't know sir but you
know people are gonna talk but it's of
and people are gonna call you out of
your name they're gonna sell all types
of things but it's it's not what they
called you it's what you answer to
because they say hey this and hey you
call you that you know that then people
don't know you
it may watch one episode most people
haven't even watched one of my episodes
that come against me they just see the
title of it in it I've got a lien on it
or something I've talked to a woman
about it an alien but I'm trying to give
a biblical perspective of aliens or a
biblical look of a aliens you know what
I'm saying people have preconceived
notions bro and we got to grow out of
there like in order to be taught like
you have to grow out of your
preconceived notions even us when we
feel like we have it all figured out you
know we have to we have to we have to
realign we have to unlearn and then we
taught and it's big with the Bible like
how many times have you read over a
certain patches of passage of Scripture
for years and ten years later you read
it and you've went through life
experience and testing and revelation
and backlash and then you're reading
you're like oh my god I've been reading
over this for 10 years and now I finally
get it
nobody you know what I'm saying and it
finally sticks out to you because you
were taught to perceive it or interpret
it a certain type of way which wasn't
the truth it might have it might have
worked for you it might have fit where
you were and at that particular time
that's what's beautiful about the Bible
it does that but it doesn't mean that's
the real like what it was written for
what it really meant what it means to
you is I think means more than what it
was written for what it means to you
right speaking to you in your now moment
God uses everything he uses the
scriptures he uses all creation but um
but it's when we're able to move past
what we feel like we have figured out
you know people come to ain't got no no
use for people who claim to have it all
figured out
I can't learn from somebody I can't
learn from a know-it-all
I can't walk with them knowing
I can't I cannot it's a level of pride
there that I cannot do it I will not do
it I'm sorry I've been there and done
that got the shirt to prove him yeah and
we're not meant to you know I'm gonna
get back to this this certain topic of
the shared consciousness especially as
believers you know I'm not sure how
unbelievers who Satan fit into all this
maybe they're just like all just pre
Christians you know just haven't been
plugged in yet
probably yeah but but as far as this
this oneness goes you know Jesus says in
this in that day the day after he rose
again from the dead the day of Pentecost
even in that day the day is already here
I've been in it for more than a couple
well it's a couple of thousand years now
in that day you will know that I am in
the father and and he is in me and I am
in you and we are one you know and Jesus
has so emphasized that to me and another
of visions and experiences and even our
oneness with each other I had this dream
God dream one time where I'm in and this
is me to share the story real quick
because it's it's amazing about
forgiveness forgiveness is huge by the
way guys you need to forgive the people
who have wronged you I don't you know it
doesn't matter what they've done you got
them you got to find that place of
forgiveness
you got to work through that and by the
way if anybody comes against us or
whatever smears our name or cast out her
name is evil that's exactly what Jesus
said would happen to a good person II
you know yeah yeah you're in good
company and and all who desire to live
godly you know in Christ Jesus will
suffer persecution so you got that to
look forward to and but we forgiving an
advanced to already you know we forgive
you but so here's the story I was in a
very unforgiving place toward my dad at
the time we hadn't talked to him in two
years you know bitter about my parents
divorced and such and then God gives me
a dream and there was my dad standing in
front of me and there my brother was off
to the side and the first thing I
realized was oh my goodness we are one
we are one to not forgive another is to
not forgive
yourself yeah to not love another is to
not love yourself that's the truth
and then God was there and he says do
you want me to show you how much I love
your dad and he starts pouring his love
into my heart and it just kept growing
and growing this one the most brilliant
experience as I've ever had of the love
of God and just kind of clips got a cut
a glimpse of how unconditional and
infinite it really is they kept growing
and growing and I'm just starting to
just like starting to get scared
actually
because I realized at some point I'm
like if I experience one more drop of
this love I'm going to explode pieces
and I've since come to the place in my
trust of God trusting the mr. love
himself the source of all that I'm like
fine let me explode into my business I
trust you with all those pieces that you
know how to put them all back together
better than ever
you know and but yeah it was it was that
experience I shook myself away cuz I'm
like I'm just scared and I died in this
dream from this intensity of this love
and I've treated my father my dad with
love and respect ever since and then
just just had a brilliant visit with him
where I was able just like prophetically
speak into his life and it you know his
new wife's life too and brought a lot of
healing and to their hearts and a
restored relationship is powerful bro
facing your demons in you in the dream
state like you saying even having
visions about stuff to do in the future
prophetically dreams about yourself you
know if you're hiding things trying to
hide things from God put it that way
secret secrets in idolatry things you're
trying to hide from God you're doing a
good job of hiding different people but
hiding it from God is another thing and
all of that stuff comes through in the
dream state songs you know you you got a
song I've woken up with with with lyrics
in my spirit to write down as soon as I
wake up melodies and stuff and and put
them down and so the dream state is so
powerful like even they talk about like
when you're having a like a reoccurring
dream or a nightmare that's
like a monster or some dark being
chasing you
and you keep having a reoccurring
nightmare to finally stop in your dream
and get the courage up and turn around
and face it and fight it and then when
you do it goes away I had that dream
happen to me of being chased by some
type of dark being and it usually
they're so scary I don't want to look at
them so part of the running is I don't
want to face how fierce and nasty they
look mm-hmm I get away and I shut a door
whatever but this one time I turn around
and I faced it instead of running
through the door and I it just
diminished it went away when I faced it
and and usually it has something to do
with overcoming something in the
physical realm that if you face it in
the dream state that's something you
have some type of level of a victory in
the waking state as well I've seen that
in in many cases in my life and in the
lives of people who we've discussed this
with man of facing the opposition in the
dream state you know what a lot of
people's like dreams they've had since
they were a kid nightmares you know in
overcoming childhood fears and wounds
and things like that is powerful mm-hmm
yeah that's it's so true I even I talked
about that yesterday with somebody
although you know how the Lord will
bring up things that you need to deal
with in your dream certain setting
issues and stuff that's gonna keep
popping up that is like he's putting a
finger on it you need to deal with that
and just take it to Jesus just be open
and I was like this is what I'm
struggling with Jesus have it out within
pour your heart out to Jesus connect
with him about it he's gonna be like a
big brother Savior that he is and put
his arm around you and say all right
let's deal with this together you know
and he'll him bring that salvation into
your heart and show you a better way
show you that he's a good shepherd that
he's actually taking care of you that
he's given you everything you need for
life and godliness and a lot of fun too
that's when you're ever gonna have if
you will go the kingdom of darkness
relat it's torment it's misery it's
suffering
it's despair I suffered seven years of
of despair deepest darkest depression of
my life from the ages of 23 to 30 I was
in it like a prison sentence I was like
it was
hell on earth and it was it was brought
on by trying to serve the religious
Jesus the demonic imposter Jesus the
Anti Christ Jesus that is so worshiped
in so many churches across America you
know that was that's what betrayed me
was trying to serve and perform my way
into his good graces yeah that is not
the read Jesus your Jesus is the Good
Shepherd who laid down his life for his
sheep he's the good he's the good father
with arms always open who runs out to
meet the prodigal when he turns for home
you know and showers I'm with blessing
that upon blessing and all of heaven
rejoices mr. Damon I'm putting it to the
back yeah Megan get away
you'll never yeah I'll never shame you
for anything you ever done no it's
forgiven and forgotten you bring it up
and he's like what are you talking about
yeah yeah you know he's built diving
capacity into himself cuz that's the way
he wants it he wants you to be
completely free and forgiven to know
that and know how well under flee
provided you are for there's nothing
that you can't handle there's no
temptation that ever comes your way that
yet doesn't give you the strength to
stand up against and he's trying to
prove your character he's trying to grow
you up into you know this is this whole
earth existence is baby stage it's it's
angels are changing our dirty diapers
all the time it's stage you know but
he's got other stages for you to grow up
into and he wants you to spiritually
develop to become more like him more
more like him so he can trust you to do
the co-creating part and you know
whatever else he's got in store I mean
there's there's other universes I'm you
know you know it gets deep of just what
we're gonna experience after this life
you're gonna be in awe for a thousand
years just like wow the wonder of it and
he's just gonna like you know your
consciousness has to expand just to
start to comprehend maybe what what he's
got going on and then for you to
participate in it as oh he wants you
know he's brought you into the highest
place of union with him self Father Son
and Holy Spirit and you you know you are
the fourth member of the Trinity the
mystical union
that he has accomplished for us and has
made true of us already didn't ask him
for our permission but his desire is for
you to believe it and to receive it and
to and start enjoying the heck out of it
and to start sharing the goodness you
know what everyone yep
wait let your gospel be told man yeah
you are the living epistles what I say
in my song living epistle a walking Ark
of the Covenant like that's you you you
are the story it's it's it's you know
you're the unfolding over you you are
what we hear you are the bible's that
many people you you are the only bible
that many people will ever read when
they see your life laid down and so you
know they'll never understand the
religious stuff that we're so good at
talking about and I've went on like that
was a period of time where the Lord told
me to not to go on new-age shows to do
as many things as you could and don't
quote scripture like talk about the
scripture in the essence of it and
change the wording but but the same
meaning you should see how the church
folks flipped out on me it was I was
saying the same thing I was quoting it
or saying it you know out of you know
how we didn't know how to memorize
scripture and I was saying it
differently and people would just get
mad but it was the same spirit there and
it was the same interpretation you know
and people were just they had no like
they loved it it's the scriptures our
life man and their truth you know I
think I think I think the Scriptures are
truth and so I think there's a lot of
lot of New Age people even closer to
Jesus than a lot of folk that's what
blew my mind for my Awakening was like
to come out of the boxes like man God's
dealing with anybody as long as they'll
repent you know and this man says that
in acts like whoever they are it doesn't
matter and by the way we're event
yeah repents that word even metanoia
it means to change your thinking to have
transformed thinking about what well
about who God is first of all so we
metanoia
we have we take on a new mindset like
paradigm like you were talking about
earlier
mentioned that gives us a new paradigm
from which to view reality just an all
new brilliant way it's brilliant and
then and then of course to repent to
start thinking rightly of a sin you know
it's like no sin is anti love sin is bad
news and hurts me and everyone around me
okay let's give that up yeah it's when
you have life like when you have a
revelation of who Jesus really is and
what the fulfillment of the law is you
know and that's who he is his love made
manifest into a person you know I don't
say I mean I don't see how anyone could
have anything bad to say about that you
know it just works and it doesn't matter
so I'm able to see Jesus in the fruit of
it right of a life lay down a life spent
someone who claims to spend time with
the Holy Spirit they have certain fruit
that they produce you've been hanging
out with the Holy Spirit today you're
not going to be walking around cursing
you're not going to be walking around
bitter and mad judging people frustrated
worrying about how you gonna pay bills
no it's a certain fruit in the
scriptures talk about the fruit to the
spirit and then when I started just
doing more research I started seeing how
like so-called unbelievers spirit was
people who are in the spirituality but
they reject Church not because they
reject Jesus but they rejected all these
rules and regulations and what the
Western Church has created it to be and
and seeing more fruit in their lives and
the lives of maybe even people of other
faiths or whatever I had people who were
looking into Islam it was searching man
you know and I did I found it so
beautiful at the very end man Billy
Graham talked about that God would call
other a remnant for his namesake
he said you wouldn't see a sweeping
revival where everybody flocks to the
churches and church to get packed that
was what the churches want that's more
tithers you know you're making an impact
for the world too but it goes hand in
hand but he said you wouldn't see that
but but God's making a remnant for
himself out of all people of all people
groups all over the world
some of them maybe in Islam some of them
maybe Hindus some of them maybe
unbelievers and he said most of them
probably have never even heard the name
of Jesus but they know in their hearts
that there's something greater and that
they're living for something outside
themselves and and and so by that they
know God but they don't know him by that
name Billy Graham said this yeah well
you know and that was powerful for me in
my waking seat you know you ain't alone
after all these years Billy Graham most
people called him a heretic all the real
like heresy hunters and stuff like that
Billy Graham lost his way and he's a
Catholic and he's this and he's that you
know but I feel like this dude at the
end of his rope man he have serving the
Lord all his life he come to some type
of realization man you know yeah and
there look God loves everybody bro yeah
yeah and God looks at the heart
and all who live in love live in God and
God in them so maybe you're in Islam you
that was how you're born and raised and
but that's true of you you're living in
love you're living in God and God and
you know it's interesting I just
interviewed a near-death experience
around so just so so so talk radio
Sharron melanin and one of the things
that was highlighted and her experience
with Jesus the conversation with Jesus I
want to share this with you really quick
because it relates exactly what you're
talking about
she she had never read the Quran or
heard this verse or this you know ever
before but when she was speaking with
Jesus she said she said okay yeah she
quoted a verse in the Quran actually I
was even uncomfortable when I read this
in her book but she says God your
hundreds name is God is everywhere God
is nowhere and God is in me you know and
he says yeah that's right and she was
quoting the Koran and apparently I
looked it up on the internet and it was
it's a big deal and I found it on the
Islamic website and they were talking
about it and there's this parable about
the camel nose and that's why they're
always smiling the camel nose the under
its name oh gosh if you know the
hundredth name
God as the saying goes you're granted
entrance into paradise right and we have
99 names by which we know him in the
Koran but you must know the hundreds
name of God this is something apparently
that's in the Quran may talk about this
and and the actual the site on the Islam
is like well we don't there's one name
of God that doesn't appear in the Quran
that's Yahweh Yahweh I am but I am you
know and really I thought he was on to
something there so yeah wow that's
amazing and it sent me down this whole
rabbit trail of like diving into once
again what this means I am that I am
what does it mean that Christ is all and
in all God is all and in all and he's
he's Porto's spear on all flesh and that
we're one consciousness you know New Age
talks about this right you know yeah I
think is true in a biblical sense that
Christ is a sinner
now what makes New Age so bad is that
they're cutting Christ out of it they're
chopping off the head Christ is the head
of this operation of consciousness to go
you have to go within and see if they're
if they really are you don't sound like
Jesus if Jesus is love then if it's an
individual who's cutting love off and
some of them are some of them have
hidden agendas and motives and their
wicked people but I think that when I
see I I do
like that's the fruit I look for in
ministry I don't care how much right
knowledge you have in doctrine and
angelic encounters you've had I don't
care about that and what does Jesus say
about that you can have you can speak
and that's easy Paul if you speak with
the UH the tongues of the Angels and
you've learned the Enochian tongue or
whatever you want to call it you speak
with the tongues of angels but you have
not loved you just have sounding Gong so
I would rather hang with the New Agers
who walked in love then with the
Christians who walked in bitterness in
rage and backbiting you know and that's
the fruit that were partaking of so it's
hard to say like all New Agers are all
spiritualist or you can say all
Christians for anything all Christians
are money-hungry and all Christians are
bitter and like there's people who like
we can't generalize any of them let's
say all New Age all right trust me in my
lot line of work now I've learnt ran
into so many crazy schizophrenic bipolar
New Age people who think not speaking to
them and they think that there's the
Archangel Michael they're sent here for
a mission they've been reincarnated
they're my mother I've had messages from
women who have stalked me who think that
they're my wife the illuminati told them
that they were mom my wife I'm happily
married with a beautiful family but they
insist on this they come from the New
Age movement these foolish to enter in
the churches to write these people who
believe this type of stuff are in the
church the church kind of gives up it's
like a bed for this stuff we'll let them
give up and tell them get up and tell
their visions and what they feel and
what they don't but they've learned to
frame it in a way to where it's accepted
you can't just stand up and say I'm
reincarnated but you have to phrase it
in a way of it makes biblical sense to
most people and in there's like a bed
for a lot of this stuff and so so to
just because it'd be easier to see how
these New Age people are crazy trust me
dude you don't see my inbox but trust me
I've dealt with those people in
Christianity as well I got those people
there there they call themselves
prophetess and heresy hunters and prop
you know they're they're all that God
told me this God told me that God says
this I had a dream of this you have to
test all of this stuff and I think love
shouldn't be what uh you know what we
judge judge judge everything by so
that's how I that's how I judge the New
Agers or even the Christians I don't
judge them by I want to spell out what
somebody's bitter all the time you know
I don't care who you are if you're
walking in love and you're Jillian use
you see the best in people like I've
tried to I've been around people in them
in my past growing I've tried to gossip
around hmm man them jokers why'd that
church why I tell you what man all they
want to do is it and I'm telling
speaking the truth 100% truth and even
though it's it's still gossip though to
them they will not bite
now brother God's doing a work in them
bro you know I'm saying like they will
not budge I've met Christians like to
have met New Agers and in spiritualists
as well you don't have seen so it's the
fruit at the end of the day for me yeah
I say Jesus Jesus's will know them by
their their herds what they love right
you'll know that cycles by their love no
no no that's wrong you'll know that
they're my disciples by their doctrine
you know them you know that their bomb
that they're my disciples by the Trinity
which their stance on the Trinity magic
mushrooms whatever love man yes that's
so true it's so true
really if we can never you know and it's
important to like you know the Bible
says judge not lest you be judged right
but I believe the word there is
condemned condemned that you know it's
like that's the meaning of that word
there so we're not to condemn anyone
unless we be condemned but but we do
have to kind of make make judgments of
like you know like hey let's apply the
scripture to that mm-hm and and see how
it stands up let's judge it that way
yeah now what we're never you know we're
never like ya know there's this should
be a healthy balance and it's hard it is
hard we need holy spirit it's been hard
for me because I'm I've been so I've
been on both sides of as of recently to
like hmm everything's demonic to where
everything's okay you know what I'm
saying
so it really is hard to find a balance
and I've been talking about that a lot
lately that's just we've been
entertaining some of those sick people
who were sick who were on drugs like
hard drugs not you know now on heroin
and meth and stuff and like they're in
churches and proper sign of people and
we've entertained them because I don't
know why a thing is different for each
person but I know we've had some people
in our midst who have tried to cause
trouble and these people are on heroin
and stuff and they're like letting them
prophesy and speak spread rumors about
other people and stuff
other people are entertaining it and if
I hold on we gotta cut this stuff all it
was yeah sorry you need to make some
judgments right but you know but see the
hard thing about it is for me I can
admit I see that I could see the
potential in him and this is where the
practice is where the body of Christ
supposed to work together as the body
like the prophet or the seer of the
visionary he might not be able to see
some of this stuff man
you might need the pastor's like look
I'm shepherding in his flock
look this guy is bad we gotta you know I
know you see the vision Adam if he'll
repent if he'll leave that stuff alone
then maybe we can build with them but
it's about that about using grace and so
it's like it's so iffy right now because
it's usually all-or-nothing
you know it's usually like us for no
more or hey everybody everything flies
you know it's really hard to walk in
that balance of what we allow and and
I'm a product of that you know what I'm
saying I'm a product of talking about
stuff that uh the church didn't like and
so I didn't get I didn't was it wasn't
nothing was formal it was all a product
of like ghosting and stuff you know like
just stay away from him you know give
him the cold shoulder you know that type
of stuff that's having a me tell ya so
it's like you learned from that though
you don't want to do that and nobody had
to happen to you so you learn from that
and one of the how to learn how to do
that with grace and have somebody's in
error and uh yeah it's complicated man
you might do subtle my I do you think
about it yeah I think about our
listeners I think about I want to Pastor
their hearts like I want to protect them
from from error you know like like I
tell them via good Berean search the
Scriptures diligently and when you
search the Scriptures ask the author who
is with you to teach you and instruct
you about the truth and illuminate you
yeah and it should bring love the fruit
of love and joy and peace and all of
that all of that good stuff because I
see evidence of Holy Spirit in your life
yeah oh yeah say one of my songs and say
angels and demons they've taught me
theology you know and I'm what I meant
but not
angels and demons but like the
messengers like good and bad people and
I've been under people with bad theology
and I've been under people who were just
totally about open rebuke and I can do
it right now like I can I can easily go
back in and say hey stay away from this
dude just do this poison
this dude is operating out of bitterness
and if you follow him he was looking for
disciples you're gonna end up in a pit
if you follow this dude I can do that
part of me wants to but that bigger part
of me is like don't do it man because
you're operating out of put him down so
more people will follow you
that's a part of it too when you get up
and say hey don't follow Jason
Westerfield he's into some weird stuff
it's because he's there questioning your
doctrine and some of the things that
you're teaching and some of your people
are gonna follow him you know so you
kind of have to get out there and say
that and it gets into this he's wrong
I'm right thing and I tell you what
Jason watch the fields got some good
stuff that he's on that you're off on
you know and that's the whole thing
about becoming all things to all men to
being able to deal with everybody
righteously there's people who gonna
hear stuff that I've said already and
they've turned off the minute I
mentioned mushrooms they're done or
you're we mentioned aliens or whatever
they got their certain triggers that
they're done they're not going any
further so it's just weird place of
trying to speak evil of no man the
script is that man be thankful for
everyone to thank God for them even for
the bad example like wow man we know now
what what not to do you know and by the
way it's Jason Westerfield who brought
me and Michael together and there for me
and you together to because so I've
heard together is because of Michael
Bastian there's yeah he would post often
about Jason Lester well yeah and I was
so curious about what happened to the
brother and I was praying for him all
the time and Mike and and so Michaels
shows where I would I would get some
some Intel yeah or at least somebody
talking about it or pray
for I mean yeah did probably like over a
year ago and then I first I got punched
in the my own mom program so yeah man
it's just I don't think anybody who has
arrived but if it's if it's working for
you do it I mean I like to arrive
together and love each other and till
then okay guys for real it works it
definitely works man I it's working it's
working it's working for me man I just I
just find out what works for me and
that's all I can share I can't hey this
is what's working for Michael bash them
do this you know I can't I can't speak
that with confidence because I just I
can only speak to what's working for me
what I've tried you know and this is my
experience my reality and and I do it
with a broken heart and with all
sincerity of not trying to lead people
astray or or go into that prayer closet
before God I said look if this is wrong
lord stop me no no I can't tell you how
many times I've had the conversation
with close friends who say dude don't
talk about mushrooming show don't talk
about aliens bro I get those people
people reject me in the droves because
we talk about aliens we should totally
talk about aliens trust me and some of
the glory spirit people they don't want
nothing to do with aliens like they're
done that's the demons and it's over
your summoning demons and y'all you know
which to me there angelic but uh yeah
well think of it this way and by the way
I've interviewed Howard storm who had a
near-death experience and he met with
Jesus and the angels and he asked Jesus
particularly about aliens about now I'm
about now yeah and Jesus showed and
paraded all these you know some humanoid
looking and then it got less and less
the human like and he's like okay I'm
done and he could have had interactions
with any of them because they were like
saying hello to him but
didn't want to respond to that we asked
him specifically in the interview about
that
so yes God has created all manner of
species of different beings on you know
different realms and planets in this
universe and in other universes he's got
a lot more going on than you ever
thought or even me cuz I've done my
research and there's people done more
research than me and I know a lot but I
don't know I'm not even scratching the
surface at all right I'm the right thing
and we have to stay on task about what
our purpose is what our mission is and
just refocus our focus yeah refocus my
focus okay this is good what's next papa
that's what I pray what's next papa and
he gives me a game plan for like the day
you know this is that correct yeah me
and you talking this part of the
gameplay if you got off on aliens for a
month or a week or whatever could I told
you all the way oh you go down rabbit
holes
that's why I didn't really get into Flat
Earth and all that conspiracy and stuff
you know all my friends wanted me to and
stuff because I knew my vision I knew
what I write all to do and what's
working and I had to be consistent with
it and not be like hey let's talk about
this let's go here let's go there um
okay guests on here we've done a show on
it but we've you know and we've covered
a little bit here and there but it's not
like I'm out teaching it or trying to
catch people's minds on get back to
topic I did one show about why did the
u.s. fake the moon landings that's like
okay done with that you know what and
there was only because there's only
because I had such fun researching it
and like you know like going back and
forth about it even and then finally
it's like oh it became abundantly clear
now we never went to the foam a fake
tall thing movies they made some movies
that fooled the public is so funny then
like some people when he comes down to
that they'll say we did go to the moon
but that footage you seen was recreated
because we lost our footage you know no
all right which I don't believe and I
will I don't believe him most of it any
I don't believe anything on TV put it
that way
yeah the others uh they're playing a
game you know you wonder how how deeply
a cult the government has gotten how
influenced by Satan's agenda and demonic
peddling of their there their agendas
you know as far as abortion and fluoride
in the water dumb them down dumb dumb
down the sheep to you know have to be
perfect slaves and then creating the
system of you know whatever but who's to
say that behind it all and like God God
tells us to submit to authorities and
just like we can have an abundant life
even in spite of all of that mm-hmm
it's creating an abundance of man a
table of abundance before in the
presence of the enemies Psalm 23 you
know and and so we get to feast with God
in spite of it all and just enjoy his
presence so that's what I want to leave
people with you know who are watching
it's like you're alone with God
figure out this uh but you know figure
out your relationship with him and start
to live that abundant life he came to
bring you so yeah everything comes out
of that bro I remember being on Michaels
Michael Bassam show and he's asking me
Trista how do we walk in miracles how do
we see the signs of wonders how do we do
this stuff how do we perform miracles I
said real simple I just told him exactly
what you just said you have to go to the
secret place you have to go you have to
be essentially what it says in acts like
wait here until your endued with power
from on high
go there however long it takes you know
Tara you know co-op outside you like it
naked before God what yeah literally you
gotta go you gotta go pilgrimage if it's
a daily pilgrimage it's whatever it is
man you go in and meet with the father
and you know I'm saying that people do
that differently but that's what it's
about it's about that secret place it's
a call to the secret life and everything
it's birthed out of that all the power
and the glory everything the follow
comes out of that that place and that's
not a one-time thing either you
that's why we're checked I'm checked out
I'll talk about the stuff for my music
you know but then I have to go back to
the place to kind of you know it's not
this much it's Monday today walk like I
have to go back to a secret place I
can't just do songs about it and do
podcasts about and talk about it like
myself short I have to go back to the
secret place I have to make time you
know on a busy busy days and all that
kind of stuff man so not just me all of
us ever seen one of us so brother you
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Georgie I was enjoying your your music
video that you'd uploaded recently and
you've got a new album called seer fear
is that yep and it's interesting because
I've interviewed like four or five seers
on my website it seems to be a thing
thing right yeah and even the pastor of
the church I go to Erin Peterson he came
out with a book called the seer
anointing so it's just you're part of
the eye of the Body of Christ
yeah you're a steer series with the
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