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Art, Film and Animation are littered with tons of ancient spiritual truths and occult symbolism and  hidden mysticism movies cartoons comics. Some of this films contain wisdom that is blatant while other secretly hidden. The fact remains that much of Hollywood’s stories and plots are regurgitated from holy books and cryptic manuscripts from long ago. This is not necessarily a bad thing as some would suggest but many of these ancient traditions are kept alive via brilliant minds behind the big screens.
One of the main proponents of this phenomena is the Avatar the Last Airbender cartoon that has many spiritual traditions from a broad path of Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhist, Christian and more from the start to finish of the series. In one episode the character illustrate what Chakras are and how they work in such as way that even children can understand how the flow of energy is accumulated and released through these vortexes within the human body. The Transformers: Rise of the Fall script seem to be take directly from the book of Enoch showing how the ancient fallen spirits were trapped in chains of bondage in the depths of the Earth in the sea, Volcanoes and cave only to be release to bring about the apocalypse. Is this intentional or do these stories just want to be told?
In this episode Vvitchboy and TruthSeekah speak about some of their favorite films that contain ancient symbolism and esoteric truths. Vvitchboy is a conscious / spiritual hip hop emcee from Asheville North Carolina bringing something a little different to the industry. His rhymes are that of mysticism mixed with comic book scripts and fantasy lore taking the listener on a journey through sound and inspiring creativity and expression.

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esoteric and all things spiritual yo
what's up ladies and gentlemen I'm your
host true seeker this is the true seeker
podcast happy New Year to everybody
hanging out hope this year brings you
joy peace prosperity and everything that
you hope for everything that you're
trying to build your visions your dreams
this is the year for us to go after them
2017 was awesome had a lot of amazing
strides doing this full-time now that
was something that was new just turned
33 so went full-time at 33 uh I had a
vision of a safety net like on patreon
once I hit a certain number which I'm
Way far away from that number but I
thought that when I hit this number it
could take place of the Paycheck that I
was getting working my full-time job
driving the truck and I said okay once I
stayed committed and keep at it I'll
eventually get to this number where I'll
be able to you know be able to make
money off of doing what I love to do and
but on the way to that number I got let
go from my job after ten years of being
a truck driver I got let go and we just
felt a piece about it to just start
pursuing what I was I've been building
for years to doing this music thing
podcasting I do graphic art and stuff on
the side so I'm able to make a little
bit of money from a few different
streams of income so try to go full-time
with it and ever since I've been staying
consistent with what I'm good at doing
the podcasts of doing teachings sharing
information online doing music and it's
cool to be able to finally after doing
this for years to finally be able to
wake up and my job for the day
to go to work is to write a song you
know what I'm saying so I want to thank
you guys for 2017 I wasn't think you
guys for 20 18 19 20 as we move forward
man you guys are behind me
this stuff is spreading like wildfire
welcome all the new listeners the
podcast numbers are jumping it's it's an
amazing I'm blown away all the messages
that I get daily people who are coming
on board people who are who are joining
the patreon community putting their
hard-earned money behind what I'm trying
to build here and supporting the podcast
cuz you guys know that the podcast is
free to consume but it's not free to
produce and you guys coming on board
with the vision I'm gonna continue
saying it from the bottom of my heart
thank you guys we give a shout out to
some of the people who are supporting
now some of the people who just came on
in the month of December the last couple
of days it's been about two weeks since
we did a show but I'm gonna give a quick
shout out to Bret Stacey what's up
brother thank you for coming on
supporting Taylor B what's up Taylor
Taylor man thank you because you've been
supporting for some years now remember
when I first came out with awaken the
fire under L Co be running with the lost
children of Babylon
you were there from those days 2012 it's
2018 you're still here thank you for
being a day one and there's many of you
guys man let me go down the list here
Matt leading wassup brethren Yvonne
Anthony Menza Travis Sabin Sabian he
always gets me saying his name wrong
Alexander Glee ceman Linda mercy Otto
Rus mendler Joshua Hoch Brenda James
Genma Keita Karl Rossum David
more salaries tarik BB was sub Tarek
Scott Barry
Brandon Lancaster Dave voltner all of
you guys who have come on in the month
of December thank you guys from the
bottom of my heart I couldn't do this
without you many things planned for 2018
I've been working on a lot of new music
and we're just trying to get some
finishing touches up on a couple songs
and as soon as these songs are done
they're uploaded to patreon patreon comm
backslash truth seekers so you guys who
are supporting I just uploaded a new
song yesterday it's called divine
featuring myself in the voice go over
there to check that out all of these
songs are gonna be eventually on an
album maybe in a couple months called
seer that's what I'm working on so I got
a couple more tracks in me then I'm
gonna put out and then wrap it up for an
album I think 2015 was the last time I
officially put out a release so thank
you guys for supporting you get a bunch
of perks rewards all that stuff over
there at patreon.com backslash truseq
any level of giving anywhere from a
dollar twenty-five ten five whatever you
could do man thank you guys from the
bottom of my heart enough of that enough
of the news we're gonna get into the
guests we got an awesome show plan for
you guys today a friend of mine he's
been following my work for some years
now so I appreciate that we're gonna be
talking to which boy aka Joshua
Morningstar what's up my brother
yeah yeah what's up what's going on good
morning man this early for you you're
still drinking your coffee right
oh no that's gone that's what's up man
welcome to the show bro yeah I
appreciate you having me we got a lot of
stuff in common you like I said you've
been supporting for a while we've been
friends on Facebook for a while and
we've been talking about eventually
doing some stuff together because you're
hip-hop artists and you into a lot of
esoteric themes a lot of fantasy
role-playing stuff anime stuff like that
I love all that all that stuff mixing it
in the music man tell the people a
little bit about yourself about your
music and what you do all right yeah my
name is which boy I'm from Asheville
North Carolina as Ruchika said I'm a hip
hop artist
I draw a lot of inspiration from like
the esoteric and magic but at the same
time when I look at it it's a lot of it
too comes from like magic in the sense
of like you know dungeon dragons final
fantasy it's just looking at it like
that because in those in those like
videogame cultures in the anime like
it's all like normalized like I look at
it like you know like like science
fiction has always been the forerunner
for you know like technology like when
you read Jules Verne you know 20,000
Leagues Under the Sea he talked about
the Nautilus before there are submarines
so in a lot of ways I look at like you
know you look at like fantasy like you
know urban fantasy sci-fi whatever and
you just see people that have all the
beef abilities and it's like normal eyes
though and it's you know pretty much
like your birthright as an existing
being to be able to like express
yourself in these different ways and you
know that's like really resonates with
me
I remember getting into like having this
overwhelming fascination with the occult
and witchcraft as a kid I think a lot of
it came from the movies
right and then it didn't seeing people
with these special abilities you know
and I remember in high school getting a
book that taught you to to do
pyrokinesis to be able to shoot fire out
of your hands right and I think you know
saying maybe there was some of that
stuff there from like watching the x-men
and seeing that and like resonating with
it and hoping for it to be real but
maybe on some level that it Israel and
we don't know what we're told that it's
fantasy we're told we're told that it's
make-believe but there's occult Sciences
people throughout history with abilities
able to do stuff like like we see
control the weather heal themselves all
of the stuff that is mixed into these
comics and then the movies the fantasy
there's so much stuff in there and it's
deep esoteric occult stuff we look at
like the game what is it a Warcraft but
the the the Druids and the talismans in
the ruins and the special abilities and
the powers like there's some really deep
information in somebody's
video games man yeah a personal favorite
of mine a little bit different but
there's a book series and it's also a TV
series it's called The Magicians
it's by Lev Grossman there's a trilogy
that the magician's the magician King
the magician land there are my favorite
book series hand down but there's a sock
by television series called magicians
that's about the start its third season
on the 10th which is really cool it's
based on the book series but when you uh
when you read the books it also goes
into some pretty deep stuff like it
talks about pretty like deep magical
theory it talks about you know like
equivalent exchange it kind of gets into
like a little bit of alchemy and it
talks about you know like you know how
you cast your spell's but then you know
you've got certain elements on you or
you have certain hands to hand signals
that go with it and like hand gestures
and in the move and let's show what they
do actually if they make them all like
cuts they base it all off of like finger
cutting so if you're casting your to
spell you might be something like you
know some like you know some kind of
thing I'm like oh no it's very like that
it's very interesting stuff yeah like we
I know we got into Avatar The Last
Airbender and all of the stuff that's in
there from like Eastern mysticism and
yoga and alchemy and the chakra system
like there's a clip from from that show
that went viral showing you what chakras
are and and how they're blocked and
opened in things like that that's a
viral clip from that cartoon man there's
tons of stuff that's that that's been
there but it's almost this weird thing
because it's like oh you've seen that in
a movie oh you've seen that in a cartoon
was like no this is this is ancient
knowledge this isn't something that a
writer made up in a movie like they're
going in there and taking the esoteric
knowledge and kind of making it plain
almost like what we do with the music as
well right oh yeah absolutely
it's like yeah it's pretty cool I mean I
like I like the ability to do that and
like I like how like the messages can
get out because it's like think should
be viral right like you can hear a song
right like about like trapping
and then you know you feel like a drug
lord and like I don't know maybe you're
on your way to your job like I am Iko
there's something but you're like
like when savage though at time the same
song could go viral and it could be you
talking about
you know Metatron's cube or like the
mark or something or like you know me
talking about like you know using your
RA to like heal yourself you know is
that little snippet so I mean you you
instantly have like whatever the
person's into like they just that
informations like fed to them you know
they just in case of like fixed
yep it's cool it's cool that's the whole
persona of it like the spirit behind the
music and a message that you're trying
to convey it's pretty cool because like
whenever we're talking about the music
and people feeling like a drug lord or
feeling like they're a gangster or
whatever and then listening to we put
out people having like spiritual
encounters in the end they feel more
lighter they feel more refreshed they
have this overwhelming fascination to
explore the stuff we're talking about it
feel more connected on a spiritual level
music is very powerful in painting this
picture and almost creating your reality
it's it's used as a just like a
soundtrack man I can't even explain like
the different messages that I get from
people and the only way I can look at it
is like there's been other people's
music that's done that for me you know
what I'm saying there it has been the
Lost Children of Babylon albums and the
trevor halls and the conspiracy ality
that i listened to in their music took
me to a new plane of existence with
terms and ideas hidden with today and
then my music is still doing that for
other people it's insane to even yeah
I'm not gonna lie I mean your your music
was probably like some of the first that
I encountered that was so like fellating
with it you know what I mean like before
I ran across what you know your music I
listened to you know Diane I you know
dead prez you know like you know
definitely some like tons of different
emotive element like I listened to like
what you might consider to be able to a
conscious hip-hop and I like honestly
like before that
there are a few song like my other
project I do of a lot of word vendors
really awesome stuff where we are even
more so kind of plugged into the like
kind of nerdy anime kpop whatever kind
of like subculture but you know some of
the songs with that you know I'll talk
about things but I like I'll mention
like chakras I'll mention like a merkava
or something but other than that I've
never heard anyone else like blatantly
be like you know we couldn't leave sick
bio travel all the way on our path we do
I'd say that I'm just like damn you know
and like it was good and XT was a very
important time that I ran across to the
music it's like honestly it's um yeah I
don't remember how I found you I think I
was just looking up something I'm like
Elohim or something and then I think I
found your spear song to inner reaches
of outer space you know and what is this
and then I kind of would not a bit of a
rabbit hole and yeah I just remember
just sometimes listening to it in the
being like yeah this it's basically the
information that I've been looking for
you know listening there like Esther
Hicks and like listening to like you
know push our and like reading the
speakers the father of life and all that
stuff but it's like in a song which is
the best way that I learned it's like
literally the informations there it's
some like southern chopper style
studying over like understand this which
makes me think if anybody did I don't
know like someone did like a quantum
physics rap or someone did like a even
like I don't know like history rap or
something just there is some like
southern chocolate [Â __Â ] on it and like
it's like no I know all about the Civil
War now yeah in like that's the weird
thing that I kind of you know saying
brought to the table with dealing with
like LC OB and the Lost Children of
Babylon is all their stuff is like East
Coast and it sounds like uh wu-tang and
so here I come from the south you know
haven't had a slang or the draw that I
have and then I'm talking about Bach
that's what Eric mysticism in the Bible
Belt right over I wouldn't say trap beat
or Kong B I've tried to straight I'm
saying from that stuff but it's bringing
something totally different to the table
and there was I don't think there was
anybody doing it at the time there was
like some of the beast Coast stuff
that's
that's still from New York you know but
as far as coming doing it down here
there was so much like backlash because
I came from Christianity doing gospel
rap you know what I'm saying
and then I flipped it and we're talking
about mysticism and chakras or traveling
outer space and how to body experiences
and stuff man it's crazy but as far as
you man
having me you live in Asheville I mean
that's kind of like like I guess the
go-to spot for the hippies and the
festivals and stuff man like what kind
what kind of what kind of response are
you getting from your music there um be
honest with you a little bit weird you
know it's like you're absolutely right
it's kind of like this hippie oasis like
everyone here is like a model or an
actor or like a witch or something you
know they considered they're like a
they're like a poly vegan I don't know
like everyone's got some kind of like
special snowflake in them going and
that's just yeah and that's just the
thing about it though right it's like
it's kind of like um you ever in a book
called The Wizard of Earthsea back
Ursula K Le Guin
mmm so it's a well like it's a good
children's book series the main
character Sparrowhawk basically goes on
to become one of the greatest magicians
on the on the earth or on the planet but
earth she which is the collective of
idem islands he's from this island
called not like GN ot where everyone
there the wizard so it's literally like
I'm not he's kind of a standout wizard
and people think he's cool but when he
goes like everywhere else it's like this
great like sparrow hawk a sage and he's
like the most powerful wizard like
everyone who knows but back on not it's
like oh yeah my neighbor he can like
control the weather and oh yeah you know
so with Asheville is there's so many
music there's so much music going on at
all times it's such a tourist centric
place that it's like there's constantly
like I don't know you could probably
throw a rock and like hit a musician or
hit an artist or whatever so when you're
in Asheville and you're like hey I'm a
rapper or hey me too
oh me too or it's like okay cool you
kind of have to set yourself like apart
from you know the rabble so to speak
because yeah people will instantly you'd
be like yeah that's cool
so you know
we've been doing with lost word vendors
we've been doing a like rap here since
like 2013 and you know it's been like
we've definitely build up a name to
where it's like if people people that
people ask about Oh what are some good
like Asheville rap groups or what are
some who are some people I should hit up
if I want to play show mushrooms who can
I listen to when I'm on mushrooms when
they're like listen to which boy yeah
our name comes up often now the witch
boy thing that she a relatively new
development you know what I mean I've
literally I've been writing music since
I was like 16 this past year I've really
been inspired to like make this project
you know what I mean and I didn't
necessarily make the project with like
an [Â __Â ] agenda in mind but I can see
how it fits into that kind of agenda
very well and it was literally kind of
inspired to you know not only the name
came to me but then also just like the
whole process of making the Alpha and it
was just like okay make this album and
I'm like okay I'll do that
so I've been doing that I've been
putting out little snippets
I've been putting out I've been putting
out like a baby that's been stoking a
fire I'm about to release my first witch
boy project like full and witch boy
project it'll be available on all the
like local outlets not local to all the
stores like Spotify iTunes tidal
Bandcamp all that on the 11th of January
so it's my albums called 111 and I'm
dropping it on 111 so it's like so that
yeah I'm like I've just literally been
just sprinkling all this height they're
like maybe the last three or four months
and it's all gonna like culminate and
like build on the 11th and so I'm really
interested to see what happens after
that that's what's up man I definitely
support it and uh yeah just send me a
link I'll promoted to I remember I
bought your last effort you put out and
uh purchased that it was good stuff it's
funny you say that about just like
everywhere you go there's there's a
rapper or everybody's an artist or a
fire dancer or belly dancer everybody is
something eclectic or whatever you know
so it's funny to you say that about that
book about that the person in the town
where everyone's
a wizard and and so they're just like
just like a normal person but then when
they travel and go abroad they're like
the greatest magician and let's learn
from this guy there's a scripture in the
Bible man where Jesus kind of talks
about that he's talks about like that a
prophet is without honor in his hometown
cuz everybody knows them like they kind
of grew up with him they came up with
him like we talking about true seeker
Derek I know that guy he's he's not a
prophet he's not a he's not this he's
not that but then when you travel like
people you're like venerated people love
you they want it and they want to hear
from you and uh it talks about when
we're talking about magic we're talking
about you know Jesus were about healing
people and stuff like that performing
miracles as far as the Wizards and the
witches right Jesus couldn't perform
miracles in his hometown because they
knew him he had he couldn't like this is
the Son of God incarnate or whatever
he couldn't even heal people and perform
miracles in his hometown
Manas Jeep means a carpenter bro I came
up with this dude I ate lunch with him
last week he's a regular dude why are
you guys impressed with this guy you
know but when you leave town then
there's a bunch of stuff about that even
like you hear like little boo see just
came out and was like you got to leave
your hometown because not only are you
kind of be kind of rendered powerless
but you you put a target on your back
people get jealous people want to kill
you you don't I'm saying what's up homie
and so I mean that's that's a big day
man if you if you have anistar 'get on
your back for being good or for standing
out are you having what everybody else
wants in your hometown man
yeah agree dude yeah I mean I can
totally I can relate to that by the way
this is the homie kpop Kakashi some
other other last word benders yeah
these guys got some good insight like
what you say man thank you oh yeah yeah
man I mean I totally I sleep I feel that
so hard because it's like so much of
like okay we're talking about we talking
about like healing like so much of that
deterrent depends on like people's
belief right like like with me with my
manifestation in my healing part of my
work right now is integrating my beliefs
or integrating what I want on a level to
where I believe it and I feel it with
the same certainty as I feel and believe
in like gravity that's kind of one of my
current like pursuits that I'm pursuing
so I think that you know we kind of need
that across the board for you know for
like a lot a lot of things and it's hard
when you don't like fully believe so
going back to okay I'm in my hometown
and I'm a prophet and I'm like I'm gonna
heal you and he's actually you said it's
like what yeah sure what he makes coffee
and [Â __Â ] but he's not and feel my chakra
like what get to plug out here but and
you know you hurt or something and I
like meet some people at a party and
then we're talking and then I like
basically say the same kind of stuff I
would probably say anywhere else or I
share my music the same way I would
anywhere else and then it's like oh my
god who are you what yep that's good man
there's a there's a lot to be said about
that and uh I've definitely seen it
coming up with like a bunch of rappers
everybody's a rapper now my daughter
watches logan paul and on youtube and
he's a rapper like everybody like all
the Disney kids are rappers like I'll
have rap songs and they're all viral 15
million views on every video and they
can't rap that's the thing
that they're not rappers but they can
write a rhyme and do it I guess that
does make them a rapper or somebody
wrote wrote it for them or whatever but
it's like it's over saturated especially
like when I when I left like the whole
Christian hip-hop thing and got out of
that
was like nasty - because that was
oversaturated with everybody's a rapper
and then when in the Christian community
it gives you this false sense of
accomplishment or this false sense of
being good at what you do because we
would go to a lot of churches and your
uncle comes to church and he raps and
they let him but get up there and do a
song and he sucks he's not good at all
he's not called to do it
he has no gifting no talent and the
whole church stands up and applauds him
man you did an awesome job and that
gives us when he comes off the stage and
as I hate might have a future in this
you know what I'm saying it's scared to
tell people the truth and that was like
so many people doing that mix with the
people who are actually good who
actually studied who actually put in the
work and when it comes to the spiritual
hip-hop it's kind of becoming like that
- now you start seeing some of the
forerunners getting mad I've seen when
we were talking about lco be lost
children of babylon richard raw AKA -
who the most one of the best mcs he's so
eclectic and indifferent with his style
the way he approaches it but there are
christian rappers who emulate his his
style and its totally original there was
four grades in a hallway with a witch
named Madame Blavatsky ascending from
the 12 planet is like he changes his
voice and it's like it's totally unique
and then I find Christian rappers like
who are like a spinoff of them copying
their styles like oh it's so disgusting
man I don't like it because I see people
doing that to me now people I mean I
guess once you you reach a certain level
of not fame but I guess if notoriety and
a lot of people know who you are it
comes naturally because you influence
people they're listening to your music
and then they start writing I mean even
some of the do is I rap with here who I
helped produce they're taking my bar you
know what I'm saying so it's this weird
muddy place and it's hard for me because
I'm totally about originality and
starting something totally different
what i have is organic and then to see
other people car
being in a slight usually when that
happens I'll run that's okay y'all can
have it let me go on to something else I
don't I don't need to do that you know
understand because people start copying
you and maybe maybe people who are
copying you get more notoriety than you
and they're taking your stuff there's
all of these these things when it comes
to it to the table of and the waters
being muddied and there being so many
people doing what you do you know that's
real I mean while that's yeah I never
quite thought about like that let me ask
you this though when you what do you
think constitutes as like biting a style
because I'll tell you a little bit about
like kind of a journey through rap you
know like I've told you I've been riding
since I've been maybe like 16 17 you
know I probably wrote my first rap song
in high school um and like just over
time I styled like changed and evolved
like I've gotten better I've got more
intricate I would say that the most
organic like not even really bad
inspired by with some of the stuff I was
writing maybe a few years ago it was
very like you know I did a lot of like
kind of fast flow stuff I mean I like
tec-9 so with him like ya know
oh they're anything but it was just I
was inspired to like kind of darker
subject matter and Spit faster I would
do that but what I've actually learned
more from watching other rappers who I
like both both people who end up in
person and people who like to see on the
Internet and I'm like well that's cool
it's just I sort of more get impressions
from people I don't necessarily go and
okay well I like I like the
underachievers so I'm gonna steal the
underachievers flow it's more like whoa
I like swag and their energy and their
being informative and they're talking
about like higher consciousness but then
they're also like really like catchy and
I'm like woah how do I capture that so I
kind of been on like oh wait and so I
found a way to like be a more
well-rounded artist really from watching
other people and even work like my
friends around Asheville so I've got a
person who I collab with pretty
regularly herb the wizard I think if you
I think if you picked up my ninja than
witch's trap I'm out ninja them which is
EP that we dropped or
like during the fall or something I have
a song called Devils lettuce on it I
don't know if that's the one you heard
or you finger whip if the double blood
is that was kind of that was my first
sort of like test on a witch boy track
but it's me and herb the wizard and he's
totally someone who I've known for years
and he's got a very like catchy like
just super like swag doubt style across
the board and just in working with them
I've gotten to where I could like you
know I can keep my like intricacy of my
flows and I can keep my like content and
lyrics to them but I've learned how to
be more relatable and I've learned how
to be more like you know just more like
listenable essentially you know I would
say the nono is is when you consciously
do it like as far as like biting a
rapper like oh let me let me take that
and kind of you know take his rhyming
scheme and take that consciously do it
that way or take a punch line and
consciously okay true seeker said this
let me say it you know let me say this
and when you consciously do it and like
it was weird for me coming from the
Christian scene because because that's
blatant I mean the Christian people copy
you know in anybody in the mainstream
who has success I remember I would you
say speak in the tokamak you know who
I'm sitting here thinking you look like
Michael Tate which is one of the other
members of DC for you about that you
want to hear a funny totally I got in
Christianity as well so I was pretty
active in local and I got you know a
Methodist Church like when I was in like
middle school in high school I got into
like youth group and so through that I
was exposed to like you know great yeah
but like honestly went to it boost best
of all I've gone I've seen like a lot of
Christian music one time Michael Tate
came to covenant community at a
Methodist Church and for like a concert
and I was all right people I swear to
God so also another thing about it with
a predominately white shirt yes I was
walking in I'll go there I mean I'd go
there
unday right I said I go in there and
they're like woo you might hate like so
many like wife my kids Nadia yeah pretty
funny that's hilarious man
yeah I can see that man um but yeah just
tell them I mean I would be listening to
stuff in in the Christian community hey
the Matthew District where do you have
your hand over the speaker at all cuz
just got some weird feedback when I talk
check that's a little bit better yeah in
in like the Christian community
listening to like Lecrae who is a big
name KB can and some of the guys who who
that they they put out um you would hear
these these rhyming schemes fast
chopping stuff that sounds like tec-9
and then you're like man that's dope and
then I go listening to like yellow wolf
or tec-9 and I write wait they're taking
like the exact like complex rhyming skis
so if I take you on top of the belly so
if I think of you on top of the hollow
availabe looking over the app LOA I make
your balloon pop that's something that's
something that yellow wolf said and then
like it's just really long complex
rhyming scheme that it does and in a
Christian rapper who's big like took the
whole rhyming scheme and the thing about
the church realm is they don't know they
don't listen the yellow wolf they don't
listen to tec-9 they just listen to
church music you know what I'm saying so
this person is like making a living a
good living biting off of rappers that
the other kids don't listen to the
church kids can't listen to you know I
mean that's definitely gross I don't
agree with it but also just at the
precursor I am not at all like Christian
I admire I definitely admire like Jesus
I think like like my favorite bible
verses like which Jesus says all these
things I have done you can do and
greater like I think
like fair yes but I wouldn't consider
myself to be like a Christian however I
can see this playing the devil's
advocate ironically playing the devil's
advocate playing yeah but I could say
that it's like not as bad I think as a
secular rapper doing it because it's
exactly what you said it's a Christian
rapper they are basically like okay you
and let's say as far as they know let's
say they're earnest let's let's say
let's assume they're earnest in their
beliefs and so they believe that they
are spreading the word of God to this
group of their followers and they're
supplying these like wicked awesome
flows that are awesome and just lit to
hear that their listeners wouldn't have
access to otherwise that's being a
complete like non mission but like
misanthropist that's me speak before I
believe the best in everyone but I'm
sure that's what they believe when
they're writing you that rule I think
they are they're doing it that way yeah
but on the other hand it is it's not
something I would do like I would like
I'm taking the devil's work and I'm
beating them with it I like I'm taking
it from them and using it for God that's
what they do and I know you're stealing
though like not in right there I do
named Wayne oh okay
Yelawolf wrote that you didn't write
back give him credit for it at least man
yeah what are we gonna feature at the
alley wolf troop Sica we gotta get that
truth seeker which boy Yelawolf track on
no right I I know right
I got so I got some friends who did some
work with him a buddy mom was gonna get
him on on a track for he said he'd do it
for a thousand so he was gonna get him
on a track but yeah I guess I got some I
got some yellow wolf stories I probably
can't can't share I'll probably do it on
another another podcast with with
someone who has a baby with yellow wolf
sister put it that way and now I don't
know if he's watching but I'm supposed
to get him on a podcast soon I may let
him tell some of those stories about
Yelawolf but um as far as like the
esoteric stuff talking about all of the
mysticism and stuff
if it's just a theory it's one thing if
it's just fantasy it's one thing but
like a lot of times the the you know
saying the veil is thin the realms cross
over and especially talking about
Asheville man all of the festivals and
the hippies and in the mushrooms and
everything that goes on there like it's
it's also a hotbed for UFO activity
people who have seen UFOs and things
like that have you ever had any alien
encounters or UFO experiences the
closest thing to that that I would say
straight-up alien other than like dreams
I mean dreams are like a whole we can
talk about that's what I mean who hadn't
had but um the most alien thing that's
happened so there's a couple different
thing that you tell you one involves a
certain research chemical that people
pretend is LSD but isn't LSD and it's
called like do X it's like a research
chemical of there's only been one time
that I've taken it not knowing what it
was and this was during my more
experienced phase I've honestly like
calmed down like a lot like what do you
think motion of a party sure when I like
27 now I like I'm like very like if I
feel called with something I'll hang out
with it but other than that I'm like but
before I was speaking this [Â __Â ] out like
constantly or a because I was trying to
like unlock some [Â __Â ] I don't know I was
looking for something um so I was like
you know every time I would do this
chemical specifically there's a being
that I would like mentally connect with
it for like all a 5-second it's like
every time so it's like you know I'm
doing this at one point during my trip
I'm in a room full of my friends I
connect with this really tall praying
mantis thingy and it's like kind of
jerking and clicking and I'm like what
the [Â __Â ] with that right and then don't
think about it the rest of the trip so
it happened the next time I did that
stuff so you could throw ended up
getting like a strip of it and just kind
of hanging out with for a while and I'm
like whatever real gets [Â __Â ] up and so
let's see there was another time I did
it same exact at a certain point a trip
to an exact being same exact thing and I
always forget about it until it happened
and so after that I was thinking about I
don't think wow it was that and so for a
while I was thinking about things like
okay it could be like a damn spirit
animal I was thinking like is a praying
mantis
you're an animal what does this mean it
could be some kind of guy not like you
know thinking about it but after the
third time that it happened I wasn't
even looking for this but I ended up
smaller with a youtube speaker named Ted
Montag okay
he does like a bunch of like UFOs so
another fun time yeah yeah yeah so he
does like UFOs
you know matrix control thing but we
have this whole thing about the control
matrix like a wrench controlling the
planet essentially talked about how
there are certain interdimensional
beings and certain aliens who are who
have a hand in mankind's like
development or control or whatever and
so he was showing you the illustration
and you see the grave and you're like
yeah I know them you see the reptilians
you're like yeah I knew them then you
see the six-foot-tall praying mantis
saying that looks exactly like what I've
been seeing you know and then I did a
little bit of research into and they're
like mint is or like ancient mantises
they're apparently like scientists
they're involved and like the human
hybridization program or some [Â __Â ] like
that you believe in that kind of thing
yeah
the Pope's estimate direct alien yeah
well I mean whoa I mean what was the
chemical that does it have any any kind
of plants in it at all I don't know they
just a kid oh I think it's a synthetic
mess it's a masculine analog I think
it's called do eggs okay yeah I don't
know much about it but yeah there's a
lot of people who whether I know I hear
a lot of times people talk about taking
salvia the extract and you'll have
Venice taking the taking this out of
your extract in the end they actually
talked about being approached by a woman
who tells them not to smoke it you know
in that realm I've talked to several
people who in when they do salvia they
lose control of their body obviously but
then they see a woman that appears to
them and it's a spirit a spirit woman
that's with salvia that used to connect
with the ancients but if you watch the
documentaries of people taking the
salvia leaf and eating it a chewing on
it it's a total different encounter
total peaceful blissful experience more
like maybe a stronger psilocybin I'm not
sure but I thought that was very
interesting and different people were
talking about working with different
spirits behind the plants obviously the
you know when we're talking about
psilocybin mushrooms I've had some
amazing encounters with what what I've
ended up calling the golden teachers as
far as a spirit you know about by taking
a golden teacher of mushrooms you know
so working with tobacco that's why
whenever you see the shamans when
they're doing clearings they're always
even if they're smoking a cigar or a
peace pipe and they're not even inhale
in it they're just taking it and they're
blowing the smoke to rid the area of
spirits and things like that but they
use it to work with the plant teachers
so it's pretty pretty interesting when
you can consumer a plant or a chemical I
guess for that matter a synthetic being
or whatever whatever it is we really
don't know but uh but you're in touch
with something far more intelligent and
we are something that's been here a lot
longer you know yeah absolutely it's
good good things I've definitely had
some great experiences on the more
natural medication yeah I like they're
like the mushroom that had some very
like pretty much mostly positive
experiences I've had some really like
interesting things happen as far as like
you know associations like what sorry
but understanding that have been passed
on I don't think I have actually I think
I've only I mean in know once again like
you know sometimes like the veil goes
back up afterwards so maybe I forget a
lot of what happened during it but um
the most profound experience I've had on
psilocybin it was kind of a conversation
with like something or someone and at
one point I'm like tripping and then I
see this vision of the like like a city
let's say it's a city and then it zooms
out it's an entire city it's themed
that's the planet it's doing that it's
the universe zooms out again it's like a
position it's like a it's like a human
shape sitting in like a lotus like cross
leg position and I was kind of like okay
I get it and I could perceive at that
moment that everything was just like one
being one consciousness experiencing
itself in different ways and then I'm
just like all right but why split
yourself up like that like what's the
point and then it was kind of like come
closer and so I come closer and it was
like a mirror and I saw myself in that
mirror and it was just me and then for
like like literally like a second I
perceive what it felt like to be
literally the only thing in existence
and he was like crushingly like lonely
and like stressful and like there was
like nothing around me and it was like
ah and then yeah kind of like kind of
spiral into a bad trip after it because
it was weird it was like a bad trip from
feeling like literally everything is
perfect this is the spirit world this is
all just that everything that we're on
correct and I was like oh it's like my
ego my ego just went nuts
I had like briefed Yoda and then my
eager like came back with a vengeance
and like man honestly I looked back on
and I regret how I how I reacted to it
because I doing naked and running down
the street more like trying to like not
trip like drinking up for afterward like
I'm gonna drink this for tea and try to
like lower my compact yeah I kind of
[Â __Â ] and I'm like I don't think I would
do that now I think now I'd be like yeah
that's about right yeah understand me
from it yeah let me ask you this about
the bad trip when you when you felt that
that void that almost seems like when
people talk about having the fear of
death of of that when they die that
nothing exists that they're all alone
and it's just black like you don't exist
anymore it almost sounds like that kind
of overwhelming fear I'm saying took
over you arm was
like a point when it when you felt that
at the time that day you were gonna be
stuck there like in that place that you
were a place of loneliness like damn I'm
this is it I'm gonna be here forever was
there a feeling like that no relief for
like a second and it was more just the
realization that everything that I
thought it was what was more crushing
for me and for my ego
it was nothing to do with that fear it
was more it was all about like how okay
everything that I think I'd like you my
mom my friends the ground everything
being separate and living in this
certain kind of like material world and
I you know I've been getting into
Eastern spirituality I've been getting
in the meditation before this but I
still live purely in it I still lived in
the physical realm and I was trying to
live in a bit spiritual realm this [Â __Â ]
like yank me purely into the spiritual
realm and it was like it's all the
spiritual realm it's all just energy
like your mom my you know your my mom my
friends my job it's all just like energy
it's all just consciousness manifested
in different areas and it's nothing like
I ever thought it was and just that
realization or that feeling just really
like like I said my eager like did not
take a while with that yeah no I get
gets weird because you get into a place
where time doesn't exist anymore is yeah
and people feel like yeah I'm gonna be
stuck there and they're like a my dad
like people think they've died and stuff
could you in a place worth because Tom
doesn't exist and then you go to a place
where you feel it there's no time so a
minute seems like three hours like
literally it's it's whelming yeah you
know yeah there's there was no time it
was just yep we're still here we're
still yep we're still you know that's
what I always talk about like a lot of
people on LSD or I guess strong doses of
psilocybin talked about thinking that
they did that they've died in there in a
state of purgatory like waiting for God
to judge them like I've heard stories of
a friends of mine who have been at
parties and they all do acid and then
they all feel like they died and they
turn on the TV and it's a preacher
preaching about the end of the world and
like we're dead man we're dead and
they're waiting for God to judge them
cuz you're in this weird place where
you're like we just heat we just are we
just
and it's kind of a cool thing because
it's it's an overwhelming thing but the
message is to be in the moment there is
no time and that's kind of what the the
you know with the golden teachers and
the spirit teachers they try to they try
to explain to you
I don't wait like whatever you want to
do whatever is in your heart to do it
now don't wait for for time just don't
let time pass you by don't be on
autopilot being and now be in the moment
and there's just reiteration of that
when you go into a mushroom experience
or a deep coudl in a yoga experience you
kind of get that of like all this peace
and all this now the only moment we have
is now be anxious for nothing right but
seize the moment and that innocence
strong overwhelming urge and in that
realm you know yeah absolutely I like I
totally agree without it
where you headed oh good yeah okay so
somebody wants to know I know Josh
Austin's asking where's Asheville
Asheville in the North Carolina it's
Western North Carolina it's like maybe
three hours from Charlotte beautiful
place - it really is
you've been there before true so yeah
yeah yeah nice dude you got to come up
again we gotta get you like a show or
something or just like remailer
and definitely I know you've been busy -
man so do I definitely come over there
and do some stuff with you you simply
bright a vision what if like me you
Brian divisions is all during that
during that like thing because you guys
would vibe so hard you have good vibe
like so hard I think yeah I'm up for it
man definitely up for it hey just let
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people man people hit me up all the time
wanting to talk wanting to hang out and
stuff and so I try to make myself
available during
or after the podcast so make sure you
guys call in this is this is your
opportunity to do it so so moving
forward man what as far as like like
videos and stuff for your music is that
gonna be a big thing I've seen I've seen
the way the shoot that you did the photo
shoot I was really interesting with that
that girl yeah my friend Gabriella she
is so cool issues one of my favorite
people like this it's just this like
very powerful being she's a model like
she taught them to soups there's like
the number one movie that's what's up
man and as far as um videos and stuff
man you got some any cool ideas floating
around about that I've got so many I
mean literally so this is like I thought
like I finally feel like I'm in a place
where like I can just consistently I can
consistently uh put in just like awesome
alright I can consistently like just put
out like you know content that's that's
faith that's what I want like this is
what I do like this is what I want it's
like with you like this is what I want
to do like professionally yeah you want
to I'm a rapper you know I'm also
creative there I'm also like an artist
so that's I'm gonna continually put out
really cool [Â __Â ] I just dropped a 2
videos in December in preparation for
the release of 111 I don't know if you
had a chance to check out either of them
yet but one of them is called the
invocation yeah yeah
yeah it's the first time it's the first
thing first song on 111 so I put that
out I put out this uh ambi it was like a
like an anime called Junie Tyson but it
was I can amb for my song courage gang
with my friend Bobby white yeah so yeah
so I'll put those out they've been
showing yeah I've got plans of eighteen
I basically I want to make just
continually put out videos the in
particular I'm gonna start I've got
another video it's gonna drop soon it's
in the post-production right now for my
single not human that's up on Spotify
right now so if you want to check out
Spotify or iTunes or title or whatever
like that look at which boy with two V's
I've got a single on there called not
human and it's gonna be a video for that
dropping soon and then I'm about to
start shooting a video for a few more a
few more in my tracks so it's just you
know stay tuned for all that that's
what's up man
yeah it's kind of at the point now we're
like you kind of have to do a video with
your song you can't just put out a cool
song with a picture you got to do some
type of visual for to get some kind of a
vowel attraction on line and kind of
give some yep some life to it so that's
the thing that's about like can i you
know i'm saying moving forward with
collabing and doing features with people
like the thing is like we got to be able
to shoot videos too you know yeah and
the cool thing is I mean like I'm like
let's say you and I already do a collab
I'm all for like you know meeting up
like going out cuz I have family in
Alabama I'm also like randomly just
showing up and be like what up all but
at the same time I have video equipment
like we have video put here my house
yeah yeah it's like I think it's a
cannon we've got lighting fixtures
basically if even if it came down to and
we had to do some like I don't know you
do your scene I do my scene and we like
there's a bunch of it we do that yeah
yeah that's uh we do have a caller here
I'll go ahead and take this call we got
a call from Southern California who we
speaking with
hey what's going on it's Leo going on
Derek Leon which boy but uh what's going
on guys okay so I got a question I got a
question for you which boy okay so do
you ever feel like something is
attacking you or holding you back from
really reaching your potential whether
it be people psychic vampires you know
negative energies whatever you may
conceptualize it as and if so what are
some techniques you have to combat that
some people use Palo Santo some people
pray some people meditate
I guess you personally what is your what
is your your sacred place you go to to
combat that and find peace and then my
other question is like what's your angle
man like what what message are you
trying to push so I can get to better
know you alright brother
I'll take these questions off the off
the air and much love to you guys okay I
leo Shalom brother all right later
brother
wow there's such good questions
I like those questions a lot those are
two good questions alright um yeah I'll
go ahead and dive into it psychic
attacks
yes I've experienced them but it's kind
of a different angle right I never
really feel like I'm being attacked and
held back anytime I've been any time I
quote unquote em like psychically attack
or have been psych we attack it's
generally like during sleep paralysis
I've been getting like sleep for Alice
and this since I was like five years old
and there'll be times where I'm like you
know in some kind of like half-asleep
days or something and I'll get I'll be
sleep paralysis and sometimes it can be
good like sometimes I'll use it and I'll
like project myself into a lucid dream
or sometimes I'll just meditate and
it'll just be like really regenerating
and awesome but sometimes I'll be I'll
feel fear or I'll feel like a malevolent
presence yeah and there was a point
where I would fight these entities I got
to where I could okay I can't move my
body but I can like imagine myself
sitting up and like shooting lightning
at them and then they like go away or
whatever but I kind of reached this
point where I realized in a lot of ways
I'm just fighting myself and this goes
into the other part of that question
were you saying
if you ever feel like you're being held
back or blocked the reality is I
recognize that if I am being a tag if I
am being held back from reaching my
potential it's because of something that
I'm consenting to it's because on some
level I am a vibrational match to that
which is whatever so you know I got to
think about you know times I've been had
really bad sleep crowds what if I've
been doing you know it happened a lot
more when I was you know kind of I don't
know I fell asleep like I'd be like
really like drunk or something and just
happen to like fall asleep super
unconscious or it might happen just just
a time in my life where I'm like kind of
more vulnerable in that way it rarely
happens if I'm like you know meditating
it rarely happens if I'm like keeping a
generally high vibration and if it does
in those states I generally don't feel
fear I've been in situations where I
felt weird presences but because I was
in like a good vibration I just was just
showing and I was like what's up or I
was like and I'm like you are a part of
this just like me here let me remind you
and then I like you know I mean like I
found that to be like a lot more
effective so then going to what you were
saying about being held back I am calm
I'm currently part of my work right now
and this goes into the other other
question you asked me with what's my
angle my work right now I'm kind of
going back to basics in a lot away like
my name is which boy I'm all about magic
I'm all about like reaching my true
potential but I recognize that part of
reach much your potential is you know
working from like the ground level up
basically so what I'm trying to do right
now is like basically just make sure
everything about me right now is like
consistent and like with integrity so if
I talk about feeling like held back I
think I'm still held back but I
understand that it's my own blockages
that are up I right now could be in a
totally different place that I'm in on
both a really good side and both a
really bad side but if I'm looking at
okay why aren't I in Germany right now
why why don't I have like you know all
the bitcoins and all the money in my
account why aren't I like I don't know
on this whole other level
right now I think that we have the
ability to be like wherever we want to
be but I think that I'm aware I can even
feel it right now there's like this wall
of disbelief there's like this wall of
like not not quite yet that's severe and
it's like a seal and so part of my work
right now is just kind of understanding
that kind of integrating it kind of
trance figuring that back into like the
pure energy of like the universe
basically it's basically like I'm
learning how to like quantum physics
basically and like that's part of my
work and that's part of my like the live
path and part of the reason I'm here is
that I'm going from this level and this
is the path I'm bleeding and then I'm
illustrating that via my music so my
message being yes I have your message if
you listen to it I'll talk about things
like law of attraction I'll talk about
things like magic but it's from a very
what I feel like it's like my point of
view because I literally kind of came
from nothing in a lot of ways like my I
love my family I love my parents but I
mean it really a view like I literally
built myself up from you know okay being
really poor when I was a kid not knowing
where I was gonna get food from being
super socially awkward at one point
hating myself feeling like I didn't have
any friends feeling like the world was
like a horrible unfair place to a place
where I'm like you know I got in the
martial arts like I'm a martial arts
instructor I'm a rapper I have albums on
you can get on Spotify on iTunes
I've traveled to play shows and this is
only like the beginning my goal is to
literally just get to that place of just
unlimited abundance which is already
here like we're already here but it's
too like manifest that directly in my
life from where I was and that's like
that's like my path and then I'm
illustrating it and I'm telling it and
retailing all of you with it to inspire
to entertain to whatever in that is yeah
that's about as far as like that's my
angle as you might say creativity man
yeah I think it's cool and it speaks
about spirituality is that kind of like
a level up that you have and people who
are who
to practice the spiritual life half as
far as when you're in a place of you
don't know what to do next so people I
you know I'm saying what is my life's
purpose why am I here what direction in
my head it like a lot of people are
hopeless they don't know they're calling
they don't know why they're here they I
guess they kind of feel like you felt
some years ago and they find themselves
there but through spiritual practice and
through doing your own shadow work and
dealing with your own stuff you can now
see the barriers that hold you back and
you're not denying there's things that
you have to learn and things you have to
get back you see them plainly and you
know that it's only a testing or a
different level that you have to
approach it as and and it's here for a
reason you're able to kind of see the
blocks that are there or see the
barriers versus those who were just kind
of in the dark they can't see up from
down but having a spiritual practice
lets you'll be able to see I guess the
road ahead and where you're going and I
say that because I'm the same way like
if I if I have something stagnant in my
life I mean I need to move to another
level and I can see the level there many
times I can see the obstacle I can see
is that I'm focusing on this too much
my my egos getting in the way I'm
becoming prideful I'm not doing this and
once once I do this then I'll be able to
freely move to the next level and and
and in this destiny or this callin that
that that were we're walking in and
that's that's that's really cool yeah so
as far as so Joshua Hodge says have you
ever connected to the spirit realm
through meditation and I know you have
but what is a are you still there you're
still I'm still here gods let me let me
plug my phone up real quick you're cool
you're cool so have you ever connected
to the spirit realm through meditation
and I know you have but what what are
some of the techniques in which in which
you do that maybe some of the early
stuff for people who are just starting
out one yet to kind of you know I'm
saying
given what open what opened the door for
me really nice
we was so it was a couple it's a couple
of a two-prong thing one is my my Sifu
Rae like the person who taught me
martial arts like I'm an instructor I'm
a black belt level and FMA which is
Filipino martial arts so that's Escrima
and clean house from the Philippines
Maya Sifu Adi Purusha das was a monk
Ramachari for eight years and so he
knows a lot about mantra meditation and
stuff and so you know this was the
beginning of me like speaking probably
when I was like 20 being 122 so two
years ago I asked him about meditation
cushion it had been a monk so like what
is this like you know monk about you
know who like also has taught me like a
lot about like martial arts and stuff
you know a little bit about spirituality
so he introduced me to like mantra
meditation and I started studying like a
little bit of like Vedic scriptures I'm
like you know Hari Krishna maha-mantra
Ganesh I'm like mantra Lakshmi mom you
know just may feel like like Sanskrit
mantras that artment to like raise your
vibration focus your mind because I am
exceptionally ATD sometimes and I mean I
a better than I have ever been before
but this is like this is I was just
starting martial arts really maybe I was
a year or two and and yeah this is just
like like no spiritual practice or
discipline I was just I would try to sit
down and meditate and it would just be
like nope not happening it feels like an
hour and I look back and it's been like
two minutes and I'm like so the the
mantras were really helpful for me
because I got these beads and then
you're able to do like around like 108
repetitions of you know of like your
mantra and then you do around and that's
about good and if you even just start
with a daily practice of I'm gonna do a
hundred and eight I'm gonna do a hundred
and eight repetitions like of you know
putty fish no honey Krishna Krishna
Krishna how do you how do you how do you
how do you do that like 108 times I'd
like a day that makes a difference and I
think that um that was a good starting
point and then I got to where I would
just do it like a lot and you know you
can definitely like you connect some
pretty cool stuff the thing I would
watch out for though with anything with
anything that you do
just and this just me telling you in
advance watch out for any dogmas like
really just don't let yourself get
bogged down by too much and going beyond
that the other thing that I found really
helpful was like the feet up so I had
this teacher Phoenix rolled on I don't
know how many of you listening I've ever
heard a Phoenix rolled on he did some
work with spirit science for a while
though and he keep at he's passed on but
he was a very like even a teacher he
taught Qigong he taught breath work all
that but I did a couple of workshops
with them at some festivals when he came
through Asheville and one in particular
he introduced me to was the Merkava
light body meditation which is like a
kind of Kundalini breathing variant and
you can actually find the there's a
meditation that by him that I still use
to this day if you go on YouTube and
look up Phoenix Merkava I need to spell
Phoenix Phe Oh NYX and it's camp rock
Mont it's from this festival called
three days of light like three or four
years ago that you know everyone's
sitting outside but it's a real-time
recording of this meditation I'm not in
the recording because I did that I did
the one the day after that which was
indoors but I still use that one and
it's about like a forty-five minute
process maybe an hour if you listen new
with explanation beforehand but doing
that is powerful it's probably the most
powerful meditation I've done because I
can honestly say probably physically
speaking at the end of it if you do it
and you're like you know into it and you
can clear your head
your whole body well like buzz like you
will feel energy you will like unlock
some [Â __Â ] and so you know I've done that
and I feel like that's been like very
transformative but once again I just you
know I basically I am I am greatly
caution against being enslaved to any
kind of dogmas because and the reason I
say that is because that's what happened
to me like you know I went through my
like ego phase you know with the
spirituality where I like you know I got
into it like oh yeah I'm gonna take some
LSD and mushrooms I'm gonna meditate and
oh my god I'm still woke and you know
then it became this matter of I'm trying
to become something better I'm trying to
upgrade myself I'm doing this like
Merkava meditation and it's gonna like
help me a spender I'm chanting these
these like rounds and it's gonna make me
like better in some way or other and
it's just I just think that's a pitfall
that it took me years to like kind of
finally put aside and move past so
that's why I just say it all of the
disclaimer is just try to remain open
and humble and just try to use it as
more than accelerant to your own growth
you know as a book to being like this
okay I'm doing it and now and better
than like other people or now I'm just
ranting now but yeah no I mean the dogma
thing is is really good because in each
one of these schools of thought they
feel like they own the term so they own
the euphoric experience or encounter
right that that feeling of electricity
that that you felt through deep
meditation and these chantings and stuff
people feel that at church every Sunday
morning when they close their eyes and
that and they're essentially doing a
mantra the eyes are closed the hands are
raised yeah and they're just repeating I
remember some of the songs were like I
love you I love you I love you and they
would sing that like 40 times
that's a mantra and their eyes are
closed are connecting with God above in
a singing a mantra and they're caught up
in this blissful encounter they're
tingling they're shaking it's the same
thing so these the church feels like
they don't own own the mantras and they
own that euphoric encounter with this
with spirit and then you know those of
the Yum center the Buddhists or the
Hindu traditions or or whoever they all
feel like they own it and it's theirs
when it's not this is a universal energy
and you can connect through it with it
through many different paths and it's
all there and it's so the terminology
and stuff like that people trip over and
fall over and I think I think I do I use
a lot of it because it is dogma and I
love to kind of bust up your realm of
thinking to make people think that like
Christianity is the only religion that
speaks in tongues and it's totally not
the case it's called
glossolalia yeah and like everybody does
like although other religious ecstatic
experiences would do it that you know
all the women fall on the ground
speaking in tongues and rolling like
that's my practice for oh yeah for four
years man about all types of religions
man absolutely like Greek ancient Greek
religion all that [Â __Â ] you know that
money must worship it's like a bunch of
weird not kind of weird spirit stuff in
my family like my uh my great-grandpa
like practice some voodoo he like was
pretty into that even like he didn't
personally like he was more of a user he
did not he wasn't like any kinda like
shaman or anything but he he would do
really irresponsible [Â __Â ] and like he
about to like go to jail and then he
would uh go up to Saluda so my family's
from like kind of the Western North
Carolina like marry and kind of like the
kind of more outlying areas not
Asheville that's where most my family's
from but yeah my grandma great-grandpa
he would just do some like weird [Â __Â ]
like you'd like drive without a license
or drive drunk and he go into jail and
then he'd go up to Saluda and he would
see this like woman who was like some
kind of like witch and she would just
give him like you know roots and charms
and stuff to work and he would do it he
would like follow her instructions it'd
be some stuff like okay I chew on this
the root and then spit outside the
courtroom before you go in and then he'd
do it and they would just like let him
go
okay like okay you can like wait what
and then you know my and then on the
other side my mom's side my
great-grandma my great-great grandma she
would uh she actually was a minister and
she used to like cast out demons and
[Â __Â ] like inherently like they had like
the church just shoot literally like
cast demons out of people and stuff and
so you know and my family is very like
predominantly Christian like they're
really nice you normally hear people who
are maybe a little bit weird like like I
might be considered to be not having the
best relationship with their family due
to differences but that's not really the
case with me like my family is like very
understanding open but they're all um
yeah they're all very very religious so
it's just say as a whole spirituality
has always been a part of my life so
when I was a kid I wanted to understand
God like I used to want to be a preacher
like when I was a kid I wanted to be a
preacher I wanted to be a prophet more
specifically because I would read like
the
Old Testament man-hours yeah I'd want to
be like Elijah and I want to be you know
any of those people yeah that's awesome
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we'll have to do it again yeah totally
hi brothers Shalom Shalom peace
yes which boy Joshua Morningstar jo
Jenelle foster I hope I said his name
right he's on Facebook everybody going
there and Adam in a really cool guy um
yeah just getting through some of these
comments here people hanging out in the
chat let's see Carolyn says I've revved
up my meditation practice over the long
holiday break I'm Bible oriented what a
book it's magical
but want to read other scriptures oh
yeah I tell you what
Carolyn once you have that that
foundation of the scriptures of the core
understanding about what the Bible
teaches spirituality and those things
it's cool to actually venture off into
some of the vedic texts or some of the
lost books of the bible because it helps
you understand the scriptures more like
when you read these other realms of
thinking you get a sense of the bigger
picture and then it it kind of destroys
the dog might well hey how while I'm in
church and they tell me that this is the
only way and this is it when these
people are saying the same exact thing
like they're saying the same thing that
we're saying but you told me they're bad
people
wait a minute
they're saying the same thing and so
therefore it creates a schism and you
have to study and you have to get into
it you have to look within yourself and
wrestle like okay who's right who's
wrong you know I'm saying just because
I'm wrong doesn't mean you're right so
there's no such thing as just one person
being right in and like one person being
wrong and I think that a lot of truth is
relative it's it's truth to you it works
for you I told I totally believe that
because a lot of people aren't privy to
some of the knowledge that many of you
guys have researched and studied and
experienced there's stuff that they that
we believe that people will never
experience and we don't hold them at
fault for that but we can't get offended
that they don't
outch for our work or they don't
understand these universal principles
we're talking about oh if we're talking
about aliens the aliens is a funny one
with this the church and stuff you know
I'm saying so that they don't understand
that they haven't experienced that so
and that's good like for them just to
take your word for it
never take my word for anything most
people who are listening you guys are
listening because you've had an
experience you've had an encounter with
something maybe with a religion you've
had an encounter with a religion you've
had an encounter with God you've had an
encounter with demons angels whatever
mushrooms whatever the case is like
everybody's here because they've they've
touched the divine and they're trying to
make sense of it they want to kind of go
forward with it they want to take it to
the next level they want some they want
some rationale they want to make sense
of this stuff that they've been seeing
since they were a kid I was laying in
bed last night just thinking about like
why me like what did I do
oh that's a kid too like welcome all of
these crazy experiences that I had as a
kid and then kind of begs to to question
not what did I do but what did my
parents do what were my parents involved
in that are different things were going
on in the
night you know house and having these
freaking uh crazy encounters as a kid
and then it cut gets into that my my mom
and my grandmother they were I don't I
don't think they were deep into it but
they would burn candles for
relationships like if there was like if
they had a fallout with one of their
best friends like they would go and to
the witchcraft store or the Voodoo shop
or from a friend cuz everybody did it
and they would get candles the hey girl
you got a blue candle I need to get a
blue candle for me like it was
I'm from New Orleans and that like in
New Orleans that was like a normal
practice and I was going on like these
different candles burning for energies
to be released and stuff and all kinds
of spiritual encounter and spiritual
experiences and it kind of it's weird
for me so like the first thing I do when
I still have encounters to this day in
the night three o'clock in the morning
whatever I wake up I have encounters
with beings in the room or spirits or
whatever I go back to when I was a kid
the first thing I do is I go check my
daughter I got my daughter's room make
sure she's okay
and that comes back from me as a kid
having encounters in my room scared to
death couldn't go to sleep and some of
it from like when I got older watching
scary movies and stuff like that but as
a little kid before I knew any of this
stuff man my parents being involved with
with different spirits and in dealing
with psychics and energy work and stuff
like that and and drug use and parties
and letting crazy people over at our
house I was talking to my daughter and
wife the other day I remember when I was
a little bitty kid man I've I couldn't
have been older than then five I
remember sitting at coffee tables on
that kitchen table really big kitchen
table that my grandfather built sitting
there at a party talking to one of my
parents friends it was an old man named
mr. Willy and he lived in a houseboat
and a few guys are from the south you
know what a houseboat is it's a it's a
floating house and it could be a little
shed like a little shed that floats on
the water and you don't have to pay
taxes and
so if you just live in it right and as
long as you're not on the land so there
was a lot there's a lot of people who
lived in who live in those down here in
the south and actually my mom lived in
one for a while but there was an old man
at this party named mr. Willy
I was sitting at the table talking to
him and I'm like 5 years old made
conversation I'm sending even candy out
of the candy dish and this old man he's
just drunk out of his mind
I'm in mid conversation he just falls
back from the table he falls off the
table and he's like knocked out I
remember my dad and my uncle's picking
him up by his arms and legs walking him
out and this like drinking and partying
all this all of this stuff going on in
our house you know I'm saying when I was
a little kid and just the different
spirits that were allowed to come in and
that could be dangerous for many reasons
letting people that you don't know
around your kids or watch your kids so
whatever the case is man and I've
growing up like I've totally experienced
that stuff so always you know I have
encounters and stuff like that always
checked my daughter man make sure that
she's okay nothing's in there messing
with her not to say that that would ever
happen but that's I'm triggered I go
back to that when I was a kid right
Carolyn says it seems pretty universal
because spirit is always the same it
sounds weird maybe but I have but I
actually have taken responsibility for
pulling some negative patterns into my
life by crying myself to sleep a lot as
a kid and feeling sorry for myself all
the time
mmhmm yeah I could see I can see that be
to be true Chris says we all come from
the same Universal love
it's true Carolyn says I see God as a as
a loving but some of impersonal spirit
no respecter of persons even if one is a
kid my household was hard drinking the
violence but also love we were very
emotional yeah because in the end I mean
we're just a mixture of it all
like to just say that it's only good
stuff or to be so protective and many
people and I'm probably one of them I
think our generation is one of them
really
or because we've had these crazy
upbringings whether it's being left at
home by yourself to defend for yourself
as a little kid having bad things happen
to you many of us in this generation are
overly protective of our kids well we
don't let them do anything we're just
talking like my daughter's 13 at light
in this I would just roam the
neighborhood roam the streets roaming
the city as a little kid we just walking
into the city and stuff and we'd get
lost and for fun I used to go to the
hood we go to the projects and just get
lost in the middle of the projects and
so and people trying to jump us and beat
us up and all kind of stuff and that's
what we did it's fine like I don't know
I just it's it's it's a different time
that we live in I don't know if I don't
even know if times are worse like I
don't I don't know if anything's changed
from when I was a kid in uh late 80s
early 90s mid-90s to now we feel like it
has we feel like like everything's a lot
darker that people are wicked or that
people will kidnap your kid or take your
kid or whatever the case is but um
because this is it this is not just me
it's so many people who talk about like
when they were kids they would just go
in the woods all day and just roam
through the woods with a machete making
trails and making tree houses and forts
just wade the way in the woods miles
away at times you know for some reason I
couldn't see let my daughter go out and
do that and it was very very hard even
to trust other people around my daughter
it's just weird
because you you come up with this crazy
life but then I don't know if the kids
the kids suffer because of it now they
now they can't experience life and do
those things like you know it's just so
it's weird to think about guys and I
know I'm not alone in this but I've had
this conversation with a lot of people
who have kids and I think it's like it's
an over it's an over protection but you
have to learn and trust me we we've come
a long way at this point but but still
though I mean there's no way she would
just let my daughter just run run
through the woods you know what I'm
saying like I don't know it's crazy man
so part of us about being being
protective and
I don't know I mean what do you guys
think is is uh our Tom's worse now than
it was in the 90s I don't because I
don't think it is I think that
technology has advanced so much and now
we're just more conscious of it I don't
know if the murder rates how much the
murder rates have gone up I know you
there stats and stuff but I think we're
just more conscious of it
I think we're conscious of all the bad
stuff now because it's filmed everybody
has a smartphone they do movies
television shows news coverage on all
the stuff and we're just consumed with
all this negativity and fear on the
television and on the news and stuff so
I think we're just more conscious of it
and we're just more aware I don't know
if it I don't know if it's the numbers
have changed that much to where it's
like oh it's a big threat don't let your
kids go in the woods now you know I
don't know man I think it's just
something that we're just overly
protective about because for me like my
family that's my heart I bet all I have
it really is and I would never want
anything anyone to do anything to them
but to hurt them or harm them
so I protect I protect it as if it's my
heart like I would never let somebody
take my heart and run through the woods
with it like I wouldn't you know and
that's how it that's how I view it I
don't know if it's right or wrong but uh
it's a it is a it is a learning curve
but I know that was a tangent but it's
something to look into because they say
some of the coolest people right look at
me some of the coolest people are the
people who have had these bad upbringing
and had these crazy upbringings it gives
people personality and versus the kids
who have never seen anything they feel
entitled they'd have had everything you
know I'm saying given to them on a
silver spoon like sometimes those people
can be brats or just to have this weird
sense of entitlement and for those who
have been through a lot of resistance
and stuff I mean the Scriptures talk
about like going through trials and
having these these different things that
we go through
it builds character in us and how many
of us know those people who would just
they are characters like they're just
crazy it's cuz they had a crazy past
I remember man you know my cousins and
family was getting beat by your parents
like literally fight like your parent
you had to fight your parents I remember
a man seeing my friends and cousins
being choked out by their parents
holding them up against the wall choking
them out and stuff and just crazy stuff
man that we had to put up with as kids
man
so Kris garner says in schools I think
times are worse with the added bullying
from social media schools have become
much harder to navigate my daughter has
a hard time because she has a bit more
innocent than the majority of the kids
yeah man my daughter we sent her to
private school the first several years
of her schooling and then put her into
public and it was night and day see she
she was depressed like it was just
different the kids are different the
parents man so she and she was depressed
she was going through that and being
bullied in all that kind of stuff too
and we pulled her out and put her back
in the in the schools that she was in
and it cost more money and it's you know
it's you have to do without but I think
it's worth it you know and maybe that's
also the form of shelter and your kids
but you don't want throw your kids to
the wolves either I mean come on
write a lot a lot of crazy stuff and
like I said technology has has come so
far to where we were to where we are
today I don't know if I would have made
it like I was so crazy if I had social
media and like if I had social media
when I was a kid and you I would I'd be
in trouble I'd be in trouble for so many
reasons because I know the person I used
to be you know if technology have come
as far as it did I would be I wouldn't
be here y'all where you guys are posting
on Facebook letting letting you know
you're letting people know your every
move hey fixing a head to the store
headed to Disneyland with the kids and
you're sending pictures
I would be in your house when you said
when you told when you said that you
were leaving
and you're going on that your family
vacation I'd go to your I'll be in your
house taking stuff I mean I you know
what I'm saying and you've given you're
letting people know and just I guess the
you know the need to be seen or whatever
like there's some I wouldn't I wouldn't
be here let's just put it that way
Joshua says Derick do you have any
advice on meditation I really want to
start but I've had but have had
experiences with demonic in the past I
just want to be wise as I begin my
journey and this is from Joshua yeah man
that's exactly what you said though you
said you have had experiences with the
demonic in the past I guess I would ask
what were you doing in the past were you
doing activities and things that catered
to demonic influence because when I
first got into spirituality and the
occult and meditation and stuff it was
during those those those days of robbing
people stealing like you know how I got
my witchcraft books my books on
meditation I stole them I stole them
from people and I stole them from the
store and then I would try to meditate
and I would try to contact beings
oh I'll contact the beans okay whatever
you're doing whatever what whatever
level that you're vibrating at those are
the beings that you're gonna connect
with first and if you're living a
negative lifestyle ripping people off
lying manipulating people you got to
deal with those those entities in some
shape form or fashion whether you
transcend them whether like you you have
to deal with them or they will deal with
you so early on I dealt with them I had
demonic possession I had I would you
know I tried to go into those realms
unknowingly was doing all the bad stuff
that I was doing
I got possessed man I went I went insane
I was going crazy dealing with those
demons in those realms and it had me for
years not one
I didn't want to be around anything that
would be similar to what I came out of
like when I when I came out of that
stuff and I got into the church and got
with Jesus right like I couldn't even be
around incense people burning incense
because it reminded me of where I came
from and where I came from was I ended
up getting possessing possessed by
demons so with everything we're talking
about with meditation with prayer astral
travel whatever the case is mushrooms
whatever it's all about the the
intention and doing your own spiritual
work doing your own spiritual work but
you have like whatever whatever level
that you're you're vibrating at which
means whatever you're doing you're gonna
be there and so I'm working on a bunch
of writings right now I'm working on a
course and some books and stuff like
that that I want to get out there and
I'm addressing a lot of these spirits
and a lot of these things on the other
side and how they interact and with all
of the interest in it and even in my
music or I talk about it very
nonchalantly like it's an everyday
experience I don't travel the ethers
every day most days I'm hanging out with
family doing normal stuff it's not an
everyday thing so the way we paint it in
the music and we talk about it and we do
it in videos it's very much a part of my
life my friends life my family but there
is also like the warning to be careful
to be careful and you know and it's all
about transcending spiritually but if
you're not doing that stuff if you're
not manipulating people and doing all
this bad stuff
I wouldn't fear anything I'd say that
Jesus says perfect love casts out all
fear I'd say let that be your truth when
you go into meditation and close
yourself with that with the mind of
Christ enter in your meditation with
worship music play some Bethel music
some some beautiful worship music play
that go into the spirit realm with with
Thanksgiving with praise with adoration
to your father then there's no there's
no way
then can touch you ask God set the
intention be clothed with the white
light of the Holy Spirit