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Welcome to this episode of the Truth's Think of Podcasts.
Today's discussion is going to be about the New World Order.
Is the NWO New World Order necessarily bad or evil?
Could it be a good thing?
And we're going to just discuss it, man.
We're going to just look at your comments
and open up the chat here on the Zoom
for you guys to join in and join the conversation.
So this is something that we're going to be doing
as far as opening up the chat for dialogue
with people within the community,
people who are part of the Patreon and a part of the community on that end.
We're going to open it up every episode for you guys to ask questions.
No matter if I have Jordan Maxwell on, busy bones, Santos, but not you.
No matter who it is, during those interviews towards the end,
we'll open it up for everybody to come in.
But also, we're going to be doing these shows that are just community based open dialogue,
which have been really fun.
The last couple of ones that we've done and I've been getting a lot of good feedback about it as well.
So I always had the mind and the heart to do a roundtable.
And essentially this is what it is.
I'm gonna be playing the devil's advocate.
I'm not gonna take a hard ride or a hard left.
I'm just gonna present facts and theories on both sides
and get what, you know, the opinion from the collective.
And I just posted this on Facebook
and got some really interesting comments
and really interesting feedback from both sides.
I'll say the majority, again, of my friends
and people that I'm a part of, they all would say
that this is something evil,
that we need to stop the new world order
and we need to band together and overthrow it
and all this kind of stuff.
But what if it's actually a good thing?
What if there's actually some good
that's gonna come from this stuff?
And listen, we're just approaching this dialogue
and asking questions.
And so if you don't ask the questions,
you'll never get the answers.
Maybe it is 100% evil.
Maybe it is wicked.
Maybe we need to rise up together,
overthrow this thing and take our world back.
But I wanna hear from you.
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to play this clip. This is the clip here that was recorded and on September the 11th, 1991 and so
for all of my truth is out of there this is a foundational clip for most of you guys it definitely
was for me so this is one of the first times that we heard about the new world order on September
the 11th, 1991. And we feel like a lot of people in that community that something happened
10 years later, from the date of this announcement of the New World Order, September 11th, 1991,
2001 we have the World Trade Center event that happened that allowed us to go to war with other
nations who were not a part of the UN, who did not submit to our democracy in our way of living
our currency and we actually forced it upon them. They didn't want anything to do with it,
and we go in there and push this. And so this is an agenda that the New World Order is a
worldwide domination of the rule of law. Is it a good thing? Should these primitive beliefs be
done away with these some of these violent religions and traditions? And if you guys do not
get on board with us, then we'll make you.
So that's what I believe essentially would happen.
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All right, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. 1991 George Bush Sr. announcing the new
the new world order. Now, these individuals have planned something hundreds of
years ahead of what we're seeing now. This stuff was mapped out and now we're
seeing the unfoldment. Little by little, it's been something that the heat's been
turned up just a little bit here, a little bit there. We'll do this, we'll do that.
We gain control, this type of agenda. But isn't necessarily bad because the
The majority of us will say this is something they're taking our rights away our way of living is changing all of that stuff
I'm gonna go ahead and bring in some of the guys here today. I think we got Richie. What is brother you you hear, Richie?
When it comes to it's you that speech
What are you?
What are you feeling when it comes to that speech? What does that say to you?
Let's see, it's more interpreting like the set and setting of where the sharing was, because
for that sharing to be loaded energetically, it means that you're aware that the person
who is speaking is in a political space.
You're familiar that they're on an uphill pit or they're sharing behind a podium.
And what they're orbiting is they're discussing a geopolitical orientation where different
nation-states can be related to each other with a different level of
cognizance. I think the subtext usually has to do with who's saying it, why
they're saying it, and what happened around the before middle and after of
them make making the message. So I don't really know if I would say that the
term New World Order started around 1991. I think that's when it entered a lot of
individuals cultural lexicon, because that was one of the early times that it
kind of was presented forward, my bid on it is less of a big evil conspiracy plot, more
of it's kind of like the footprints of consciousness trying to organize reality.
So it's not necessarily as curved and thinking there's something going against us and we're
trying to be forced into these systems.
It's more the spirit of people are trying to make anything make sense.
And this is the closest representation of a perfect order that we've made, knowing it's
imperfect and it's manifestation. Does that kind of make sense? Yeah. You know, I've always
brought this to the table with just playing the devil's advocate again and being hopeful,
being optimistic about the future, about the present. When we look at people like Bill Gates and
Elon Musk and there's so much like smear campaign, propaganda, memes, YouTube videos,
tick talks about these guys and we need to get rid of them and what they're
trying to do and even as I'm reading in the comment section here there's a
lot of stuff about that right now. It's like what if these are good guys you
know what if these that they know something and they're trying to help and
further humanity? What if they know something that's coming? What if they have
planned this and it's for a better world? It's for a rule of law that that
that we can be governed by a system, a set of rules that we all adhere to, the entire
world.
So a one-world government, a one-world religion, a one-world order, a new world order.
And so obviously if they was to try to implement that overnight, it'd be very hard, but
it's been most likely hundreds of years in the making, we see little glimpses of it
here and there, and I feel like the means to an end, they justify a lot of bad stuff, a lot
of wicked stuff, right? If we believe that 9-11 was orchestrated by our government, or if they
at least knew something about it and didn't do anything, there's a lot of stuff in there, but
I do find it weird that September 11th, 1991, they introduced a new order, then we have September 11th,
2001, and we see that, and that allowed us to go into these other countries who we would
call primitive.
We would say our governed by the rule of the jungle.
We call them.
They follow desert religions and have very severe laws that are not in tradition with
the Western world, and so they have to be taken out.
They have to be governed.
They have to have an upgrade, if you will, to play in this, you know, court of, you
know, the world, you know, to be here.
So, very interesting, you know, and it opens up so much, a can of worms, a fit, you know,
the whole means to an end is that, hold on, you guys killed a lot of people.
We got killed thousands of people with the attacks of 9-11 to bring about what was the
different laws that were passed, the one that took away our privacy, allowed them to tap
our phones to Patriot Act.
The Patriot Act happened because of 9-11 and then we go into the other countries taking
their resources that they wouldn't share, changing their currency, forcing democracy,
those things.
And many people would even think that's a conspiracy
that those things aren't even connected,
that those are different events
and are not connected at all.
Most conspiracy theorists, most people who have been
researching can definitely see the signs and the symbols
and the dates and all of them.
And again, the symbols of symbology and things like that
that happened as well.
Fred, what's your take, brother?
Gotta unmute.
There we go.
Hey, what's up, man?
It's good to see everybody here.
Richie, I appreciate your take and your view on that.
I remember hearing that speech
and I was in a totally different space, mind space.
I was that kid that was, and I was a kid at that time, but I was a teenager, but I was
a part of a Bible study, I was a part of a group, and so we had heard the echoes, and
we've taught from the premise of this whole idea of this one world religion coming on
the scene, so we were always looking for clues.
When Bush stood up and in this great speech made this idea and he's used those three words for me
Those were three major trigger words
Okay, I was that kid jumping up and down said oh
See there goes that is we were on it. He said it we're one order and and you know
So I think there's a little bit of both now in retrospect, I mean, now I'm in my 50s.
I was a teenager then, but now in my 50s looking at it, I think there's a little bit
of both.
I think there was just like I love what you said, Ritchie.
There was this sense of consciousness trying to, I'm sorry about that guys, sorry about that.
of consciousness trying to say, this is how we come together, this is how we'll fix things
and it has to be in a certain order.
I think that was part of it.
But I also think that it was a crest of a wave that started just like you're saying,
truth secret, hundreds of years prior to that, they're all building off of the ideas and
the thoughts of others. And this is just the manifestation of something that's been in
the works for a long, long time. And so yeah, the New World Order that I can't help but think
of, who is it, public enemy? And they were in 2005. They came out with the album, the New
World Order, the New World Order, which was a criticism of this idea of the New World Order.
So yeah, that was where I was at in that particular car.
Well, so I don't think that, you know, it's not the idea of if this thing exists, which
a lot of people like, yeah, we don't know.
You're just looking too much into it, you know, those kind of things.
I think people now who have criticized, you know, free thinkers and people who have been
able to connect dots, people who have criticized this are now because we live in such a
a time as this, in a very strange world,
a lot of strange stuff happening.
Now, they've become conspiracy theorists,
people who I would never believe,
or whatever, fathom that you're sharing these posts
about the way fair children that are in cupboards
and stuff like that.
And I just, oh, wow.
So all of the stuff is being spread,
all this information with the internet,
and it's readily available.
So there's no question that weird things are happening.
The whole conspiracy theory thing is to kind of take the light off of some of the truth
that's happening.
Some of the real things that are happening, just look at your money.
You know, the money was a big part of this.
And on the dollar bill, you have Novus Ordo Sichlorum.
Sichlorum, we know from the Christian realm, secular.
You listen to secular music, secular or secular means world, worldly.
So the new, novice order to quorum is the new order of the world.
And there's all of this ancient Egypt iconography on the back of it and even some Roman
iconography about this new world order that's even on our money, essentially a talisman
that everyone's held and everybody's touched and everybody's familiarized themselves with,
know they don't know maybe what this stuff means. So for many people, this is scary. My hope.
My hope. This is true. This is true. It's totally happening. But the hope is that
on the other side of this can be something beautiful. Can be something
what we all learn to live together. And we're going to touch on the Georgia guidestones,
because a lot of people are talking about that. Hey, how can the new order be something
and beautiful when all of these rules and things
on the Georgia guidestones that is written in stone
in every language have some very scary things on
about population control.
You know, a lot of the things about the has to deal
with at least the theories in a way, population control,
being able to have children and procreate.
So we need to get the earth's population below 500 million,
million, I think it is, yeah, 500 million and we're way over that.
So that's scary for a lot of people, you know, and when we get into this way of thinking,
it's fear, hysteria, anxiety, but the hope and prayer is that our leaders know what they're
doing.
You know, they've been, if they've been planning this, obviously since, you know, the dollar
bill came out, you know, because it's written on the money, but definitely way before that.
So what about the money, what was your thoughts when you found that out?
And especially, you know, 9-11, I thought it was really interesting when you could take the
$20 bill and fold it and you got these pictures of what looks like to be the World Trade
Center burning.
When you fold the $20 bill in the shape of an airplane, you see a picture of smoke rising
from the rubble of the World Trade Center.
Even with that, a lot of people would say,
well, that's just cool incident.
It doesn't really even look like it if you look closely.
It's just you see it because you want to see it.
And that's one thing.
It's almost like a prophecy that's in hindsight.
You couldn't predict it, but it was after the fact
then you see it.
It was actually there the whole time.
But for those who would say that something like that
would be fake or made up, if you go back to the 10, 20, 50
and 100, it actually plays out from least to greatest,
showing the tower standing tall,
showing them just getting hit, showing them crumbling,
and then showing the smoke rising up,
and progression if you fold all of those the same way,
and then you flip it over on the other side,
and it just so happens to look like the Pentagon got hit
with some type of explosion or something like that.
So there's reason people have been asking questions,
but we've been called conspiracy theories,
theorists in lunatics and those kind of things.
Anybody want to touch on any of that?
One of my thoughts is immediately is that,
you know, interesting that people would mock folks
that look at those type of signs and say,
oh, you're taking it too far,
you, you know, you're going out too far, man. You know, you just, that's just the coincidence.
You got to realize that there are some major religions that are built over less information.
So it's like, this might be interesting. I like the idea that you said
prophecy like, you know, that we kind of see in part, you know, what the scripture says,
we see important prophesying part and it's not until it fully manifests as if these are all little
clues and so we're constantly looking for clues and my personal my theology that informs me that
it's the work of the diligent it's nothing wrong I mean it's not letting yourself get thrown away
and carried away where you're worried about all of this but you are still observant of it
and you are aware. So that's diligence to be aware. Now the other side of it is of course you
don't let yourself get swept away because then everything is a sign and you know when you're
thrown but you got to pay attention when you see patterns is patterns tell us something patterns
is language telling us something. Yeah 100% I mean sacred geometry patterns numbers signs symbols
it's there. It's been there the whole time. Many people believe that that's one of their rules
is they have to make it plain. They have to put it in front of you. It's been in our movies. It's been
in our books, 1984. There's so many books that talk about this stuff. Some of the comments here,
Joe Snathe says, you sound like you admire them. Question mark. No, I'm here to play devil's
advocate my and it just to be to be honest my my true stance and we're just going to explore
but my stance is that yeah these people are wicked 100% that are our leaders are are not like us
Chris Garner mentions here in the chat that they don't have to be Satanist or lizards to be evil
right there's that that theory that the reptilians or that these are a different breed of human
or they can be just degenerate, they have no empathy or emotions because of the almighty dollar
or power as far as power is concerned. I believe that our leaders are wicked. At the top level,
just so much stuff that's going on with what we have called the New World Order Agenda or
Hollywood and all of this stuff, I think that these people are 100 percent evil. That doesn't mean
mean I'm right, does not, and so the optimistic side of me would I want to be proven
wrong. I want to be proven wrong. So I'm open for the information. I'm open to know that
hey, I maybe I've read some things into this. Maybe that movie that I watched that talked
about this new world order agenda is playing out a different scenario that is only real
to me and those who are seeking, you know, because like you said, everything's a sign and
And there's these agendas or narratives that we begin to read that aren't real, but they're
real to us.
So I'm hopeful, you know, because that's what we have to be, to give up all hope and to,
you know, like that's a bad way to live.
And especially if you made it up, let's say these people were benevolent and they were
trying to protect us from an outside source or whatever you want to call it and then they
get this bad rap.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I have my gut feeling is what I said prior that it's a, these people are not like us and
they don't care about human life.
So there's the ability to do harmful stuff to bring about an agenda.
And I don't want to promote that.
I don't like to talk about that anymore, but I would like to explore the other side because
just as much, you know, negative thought that there's been with the general senses that
these are negative, demonic, demon people, like I believe, there's many people who believe
hold on.
These are good guys.
They're doing this for a reason, trust the process, listen, we got to go through hard
times, but on the other side, there's beauty.
On the other side, you know, we're going to get the rejoice, if you will.
So there's those notions out there too, and we go to my post here, because I've recently
shared this on Facebook, just to see what people say, and the majority are against
it and think of it as something nefarious, but some people were saying that it could
be a good thing, that the old way of doing things hasn't been working, whether it
capitalism, whether it is the law of the jungle, as you will, that we need a new way of living,
a new way of thinking. So it just depends on where you stand on that and what you can do about it.
You know what I'm saying? Because you're very limited. We used to want to protest and ride in the
streets and go route rallies and all that kind of stuff and none of that worked. So what's next?
I was, this morning for my devotional time, I decided to step into some apocrypha, and
so I was reading Bell and the Dragon, okay?
And this is a whole story, ancient Jewish literature, that's talking about Daniel and his
dealings with this king, and you can imagine like so much of what we read in the Jewish
scriptures. It's built like when all of the scriptures were pulled together, they were
pulled together after the fall and after Babylon came in and took over, you know, the
fall of the temple and all of that. So almost there is a sense of a type of bias
that just kind of helped shape so much of what we get as shape, say,
scripture that we don't realize. It's an interesting thing to be shaped by
something and not realize you're being shaped by it. Okay, and this story of
Bell in the Dragon is a story of this this this prophet, but he was also
Daniel was also the King's advisor, and since you could say he was a man of power,
and since you could say he was a politician that had it in with the King, very
reconnected, very close to the king. And Bill and the dragon said he was one of the king's best
friends. And they go through this long dialogue where they exposed this religious system that was
being fake. That was, you know, that was abusing people. So, so I wonder if the Jewish people
looked at Babylon the same way we're looking at this new quote unquote world order that's coming
Yeah.
Well, I want you.
I told you, I named my album, The Fall of Babylon.
And replacement theology is that America's Babylon,
there's many YouTube, YouTube, or who believe that,
that America is modern day Babylon.
There's a lot of interesting stuff that one of the first
streets that were laid in New York,
or is, I believe it's New York, or Philadelphia,
is Babylon, it was called Babylon.
And there's some interesting things,
but so let's get into that the end time scenario.
So everything that's going on right now
with the NWO and all that kind of stuff
and change, we don't like change.
We don't like, we want things to stay the same.
So there's a lot of people in their Bibles
and in their fields about the end of the world.
That this is it.
Our saviors about to come and whisk us out of here
because things are going to hell in a handbasket,
but we're gonna be saved.
We're about to be taken out of this place.
And so there's a lot of theology that goes into that.
To be 100% honest with you,
like my studies and all of that, I was there.
I followed in Tom Coates, Hebrew Israelites,
that said we gotta get out of here
because there's rockets coming
and those stars that are falling,
those stars and revelations that fall from the sky
are actually rockets and nukes that are coming.
So you have to leave Babylon.
There's scriptures in the Old Testament that says,
come out of her my people.
And so we've got to get out of here.
And the group I was following said physically,
not just first spiritually, mentally,
quit following the customs of Babylon
and those kind of things.
Christmas, Easter, all the pagan holidays
and all that, don't eat with the pagans eat.
And we observe that stuff, right?
And everybody, I think these scriptures
that are talking about something totally different in interject themselves in the middle of it.
This is Babylon we have to leave and even physically so much so where these guys
bought land in Egypt because there was a scripture in the apocrypha where Egypt would be protected
in the end and so they bought land and people left their husbands, women left their husbands
and children sold their possessions and went to go live with these Hebrew Israelites that started
the cult. And yeah, it didn't pan out well, it didn't work out well. I was a part of the movement
and message until they were like, let's sell all your possessions, give us your money and come
live with us. And that was like, oh, now I'm for preaching righteousness, holiness, repentance in the
streets. Listen, that's what that looks like the Bible. But all of this other like, let's start the
commune and you know, you know, let's live like they did in the kingdom. It got really weird. Most
cults start that way, but it all comes to this weird eschatology that everybody wants to be the
people of the book. Everybody wants to be, you want to feel important, you want to feel special,
and then you look at your circumstances situation like, hey, this could totally be us here, man.
Like, what's happening here? It totally can be us. So I was in that 100%, it came out at my
music, you know, and there was this, you know, when everything was new looking at, you know,
Masonic symbolism, hidden symbolism in movies, in music, the one I like you hear all this kind
of stuff.
And I was very paranoid.
I learned about FEMA coffins, FEMA camps and FEMA trains and they're coming to whisk
everybody away.
For me, this was in 2007, 2008.
And I was all in.
People thought I was a nut, you know, now it's, hey, you're, you know, we could talk about
I just had things given dinner.
But people thought I was a nut,
and definitely was before it's time,
and the RFID technology,
and all this going to work at the beast,
and whether it was no RFID,
or if it is the thing,
the little thing you got to get,
everybody says different stuff.
And the problem with bad eschatology
is that you start reading yourself into this.
And so where I stand now,
just because of my own research
of tearing those scriptures apart,
reading history and finding out
things that actually happened.
The majority of what I believe is that
all of that stuff already happened
to the early church who were fed to lions,
who had to fight lions for sport
and pay with their lives.
And there was a lot of prophecies
that Christ said would happen,
that we read ourselves into it, right?
We read these prophecies that Jesus says was gonna happen
And then we put ourselves in it,
but then the context is like,
hey, I'm talking to you guys.
And he says, everyone's standing here right now,
I'm not gonna be around much longer,
but everything that I'm telling you is going to happen
before you guys pass away.
This generation will surely not pass away
until everything I tell you be fulfilled.
And I read that and I was like, wow, like maybe it happened.
And then we start looking in the 70 AD,
Jerusalem being over. That was their apocalypse. That was their tribulation. Like that
was the end of their world as they knew it. And then there was a new world order that may
have started then, right, with under the Roman Empire as many people believe that they
were ransacked and the Christians were overtaken. And then literally a one world religion
was created under Catholicism. If we understand what the word Catholic means, it means
universal religion. You can come here and continue to worship the ancient gods under the new
iconography. We got the mother, we got the father and we got the son and every religion has that.
Let's bring it together. Let's a big conglomeration. Everybody says that Christianity borrowed from
these other religions and we mixed our holidays and brought everybody together. So if we're
looking for one world order or one world religion, maybe it's already happened and we're just
projecting ourselves in it. Fred, you just said that people are indoctrinated and they don't even
know it. So, like, we're in it, but we're waiting for it to come. You're already in it, but
you're waiting for it to come. It's like, we're waiting for a one-world religion, but you already
have Pauline Christianity, if you will.
Right.
You know, I wonder about the whole idea with the New World Order.
Once again, I mentioned this last time we were talking about all of my man, Dan Carlin,
he said that history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme, meaning that there are
certain patterns that history just plays over and over and over again.
And you're absolutely right.
Now my story, I gave my life to Christ about 84.85, okay?
I was a brand new teen,
and this was one of the first things they got me
was there was, you know, we were going into them,
getting ready to go into a new decade in the 90s,
and there were all of these prophecies,
and I started hearing about these different prophecies,
and I heard about the moon turning to blood.
All that was one dog.
That was the one that I was having about them.
We had to be about 13,
And me and my homeboy, I had a friend
who lived next door to me.
I moved from California to Texas
and I stayed with my uncle.
And so right next door to us was a young kid
and his dad was a preacher.
And so he knew a lot more than I knew
about all the scripture and stuff.
And he talked about, dude, the moon, the moon,
turn red, Jesus is coming back.
And so one night, sure enough,
once summer night, we look up and the moon is red.
And fear of God entered your hearts.
God came down and so we started to look around and that's when we heard about these ideas of the New World
Order by then back then it was cast on the radio like Marlon Maddox I don't know if you any you guys know
any of that these way back in the day Marlon Maddox
Jack John Vayppy was the big one Jack and that's Ella
We are Larson, I forgot his last name, Dan Larson or so.
So all of these cats that we're doing, and the weird thing is that you're right,
we'll take several of these scriptures and we'll resonate with them,
we'll start putting our person into them, we'll personify with them,
and now we're looking for the next thing and next thing.
And for me, now looking now, years later, it was all Jesus coming back in 88.
And then Jesus is coming back in 98.
And then Jesus is coming back.
I remember two, two, two, eight, you know.
And I wonder, just let me throw this idea,
this word picture, just like we breathe.
You take in a breath and now you're alive and all of that.
And then you exhale, you're letting go of something
that your body knows, it knows that breath,
then have the next breath yet.
I wonder if in the same way there is order after order after order, you talk about the Roman Catholic, you talk about, and you can go from Egypt and every epic, you know, there's their new
and the way you know the word apocalypse,
it means new revelation.
That means just the end of the world,
it's the beginning of something new.
And I wonder if what it is,
this is a word I was thinking about when you wrote that post.
I thought about the question,
let me throw this question to you.
I'd be curious to know,
do you think there is such a thing as prophetic bias?
Yeah, I mean, I think we see that with the Trump prophecies, 100%.
We wanted it to be so, so we put words in God's mouth and all of these people wanted, you
know, peace.
They wanted, you know, whatever they wanted, right, a Christian right for sure.
And then so we saw entertaining these people and we saw paying the money.
And so we started believing it as God said it.
you know, these prophecies that God hasn't opened his mouth. He hasn't spoken to these people,
but it's what we want. So there's that aspect of it. You know, and all of us, we have to be careful.
That's a huge thing when people come to rebuke or people come to, you have a personal
art, you have a person, you have an agenda, and then you stamp God's name on it.
Yes. Yes. Yes, yes. And so you see through the scripture over and over again where God is
type in a sense correcting our our prophetic bias. So in other words, God speaks but then we
interpret it in a certain way and we capture it and He's like, you got that right, got that right.
You didn't get that right. Let me help you correct that. You know, and you look at Peter, Peter's story,
Peter gets, you know, uh, comes into salvation. He preaches salvation. So a bunch of people come in
and all of a sudden he meets with this new Cornelius and he's having a hard time with this.
Yeah. Right? But God is helping him curb kind of help him balance out his prophetic bias.
If we could say from a mystical standpoint, I wonder it's almost like looking into the quote-unquote
a kashik records, but reading it in a way only that we know how to read it and we don't
get the full picture, get a lot of the picture, but we don't get the full picture and
that shapes the certain prophetic bias and then we go out and run until everybody and
because two or three things come to pass, everybody thinks just exactly the way we see
it and say it, is it?
Like, if I told people that Abraham was racist,
now people mad at me.
But he told his children not to marry any other women
based on their ethnicity, but yet when his wife died,
he found a little bit of that brown sugar too,
and changed his whole game.
Read your scriptures.
Yeah, change, change.
What did the two box say?
Change, shoot, it's changed as hard for any of us.
But age is hard for all of us.
But we have to look, when we look back at society,
we're going through changes.
I was just wondering if a talk show yesterday
or a conscious TV where they were getting my thoughts
and opinions on the LGBTQ movements
and wanted to know where I stand,
I wanted to know my heart and not that it matters
any other straight male.
My thoughts and opinions on the matter,
but we look at that, we're seeing change.
Society is changing and with that,
the church has to change as well.
If the church does not change,
the church will be left behind.
And listen, if we're going into the new world order stuff,
Islam didn't change.
And so you're gonna be forced to change
because of technology.
Christianity, if you don't change,
you're gonna be left behind,
you're gonna be forced to change.
You have to now accept same-sex attraction.
you have to now accept women pastors and preachers.
Listen, I don't think that that was a thing in the scripture
that I feel like they were firmly against that,
but now most of us don't even question it
unless you're like hardcore, like, you know,
the words as this kind of thing,
but we know there's so much,
there's so much, the way that you pray,
like there's rules and regulations
and on the way that you pray,
the way that you prostrate yourself
and raise your hands and look up to the head,
like there was a lot of things you couldn't pray with a hat on
or had your head covered and you see little echoes of this
when you step into the church, take your hat off.
Take me, take your hat off when you step into the church.
When you pray, uncover your head.
There's so many things that were lost and forgotten
due to change and we don't remember.
We don't know anymore, but now the second nature.
Oh yeah, you can pray with your hat on.
God knows your heart.
No problem.
You pray to me to wait a minute.
What about shrimp?
We're supposed to be eating those shrimp.
Now you try to pull a shrimp from a preacher right now, you might pull back a little.
Listen, that was my battle for eight, eight, nine years.
I'm trying to get them to stop eating shrimp, stop celebrating Christmas, stop
bounding them rod and Osiris and, you know, every, all these gods, you know what I'm
saying?
So I found out that, you know, that there's more important fish to fry, if you will,
you know, and pick your battles wisely and coming to a fullness of grace, if you will, too.
So we got some people here in the chat too. So I believe Ken is with us. I believe this
is my good friend, Ken Riley. Ken is Riley and a very beautiful brother, intellectual,
good friend of mine. It's been a good friend for years from high school.
And it's this first time with us, man.
The new world order, first thoughts,
are your thoughts changing, man?
What would you bring to the conversation?
Well, what I can tell you is
I work in cyber security and defense.
I have a family history in cyber security and defense.
And my grandfather worked on Norah Ades
at Missile Defense Contractor.
My grandmother worked for the UN.
She was a, she implemented corporate governance
across Canada for the United Nations
and it helped assist it for the United States.
And so what we have here is we actually have an event
that's going on with a multiple key players across the world
and they're largely in families.
You guys have heard of the 13 powerful families.
Bloodlines, yeah.
And right, we all know about them.
We all know about different militaries.
We all know about different countries and alliances.
And so when we talk about they,
we often are switching.
We don't necessarily know in the moment
who we're talking about when we refer to they
where we were talking about our jobs.
We're talking about a family that runs the government,
like there are governments that are owned by families.
The crown is one, an example.
Canada is still under the crown, right?
We think Canada is a free country.
It's actually owned by England,
and it's run under the crown.
And so anything you find systematic
that runs down from there, close to Canada, right?
They're bad about, there's a lot of,
I'm Canadian indigenous,
and they have practically wiped out,
They find residential schools when they just killed off people.
They couldn't change us so they try to kill us, right?
And they can.
We don't die very easily.
So we come back.
But the key is is that we have to fight for the future for
everybody, right?
We want to find a way for work for people.
I believe nobody has to stop.
I believe that we can all create earth.
We can build rockets and go somewhere sure they know stuff.
Yeah, they know that people are tearing the earth up some of them or
their own customers that are paying Amazon.
prime subscriptions to put, you know, a rocket in space, things like that.
This stuff happens, right?
We all find the bigger stuff and creating this stuff to actually protect
Earth and protect people on it in a way that's still profitable is much,
much more difficult than just throwing rockets in the sky for cool effect, right?
Like it's easy to get people, uh, hysterical, it's hard to get people to calm down
and look like you said, what if this is a beautiful thing, right?
you guys are talking about a collective event, because it is.
It is a manifestation.
People have been working on it for hundreds of years.
There is evidence for miles.
I've got tons of it on my computer.
I do research.
I can write software reviews.
That's what I do.
I have a research and development engineer.
And so I look into this stuff.
And I'm more I find that absolutely all true.
But there are definitely more than one grouped.
There's more than one type.
I don't know how far that goes,
but I do know that they're all,
you imagine like everybody's kind of playing
a big game of capture the flag
or whether it's real flags and real countries.
And that's basically what you have,
where you have families fighting over land,
fighting over the future.
And I think that some that are fighting
that think that they have to kill off people,
they just don't understand how to extend life.
They don't know how to live in a way
that doesn't kill off stuff, right?
And so if that's the truth,
we want the truth is that death is a lot.
And so we bring the truth that death is a lie to the people
that bring death so that we meet them head on with it
and they can understand that they're just carrying a lot.
I don't want to start thinking,
there are probably people that are true to you,
but even there, like, why?
What is that?
What is that right from, right?
And maybe there is stuff that just needs to go.
I see when there's any kind of evil that's going on,
he's stopped, right?
And so you find it at the source and we drill into it,
But it's hard to say from any position like where is what's the kind of problem?
Who's the word they? Right? So that's pretty much my take on it.
Yeah. So Joe Rogan, you know, a lot of people know who he is.
He is into a lot of this stuff, but he stops at the day.
There is no day. Who is the day? Well, we think of one family, a ruling class,
the elites, the reptilians, like who is the day?
So Joe Rogan would stop there and say, hold on, this is just
natural order, a natural progression that humans step into. But then we start
seeing the iconography and things like that hold on today's been here since
the beginning. They have been here for a very long time. That's right. There are
people. There are families. We people create families and we live through
families. And so over millennia, we are, you know, we formalize as a people
that they have different agendas, some of them might be to free everybody, some of them
might be to turn the whole world into the Matrix and make everybody a better, you know,
and they come up with these ideas just like we would come up with them at the dinner table
like, now we should make a cool app. There are people that are thinking, well, we should
really take over this country. No, I mean, we should go play basketball. No, we should
take over the world. Right. Pinky, what are we going to do today? We're going to learn
They're going to want to rock it into space with a cat on it.
Yeah, so let's talk about space.
Space is the place, right?
Something very near and dear to my heart.
I seen this video this morning,
we know that with Richard Brunson
with Virgin launched his spaceship into outer space,
right, earlier this week.
And then it was called Virgin, right?
The Virgin spacecraft goes up
into the atmosphere goes into space.
And then we have nine days later,
the Virgin is in the air.
And then we have a phallic symbol,
the rocket that went up from just Bezos
and the Amazon team.
And look, there's so many memes people
that this is a phallic symbol.
It looked like mail to your office.
And so you have the Virgin that goes up,
nine days later you have the mail phallic symbol.
the obelisk, if you will, that goes up.
And it's like the iconography is there.
The symbolism is there.
What are we birthing?
Something is being birthed.
Something is being birthed on earth
and in the heavens at the same time.
When it comes to space, when it comes to UFOs and aliens,
let's drop this in there because I believe there's
something that ties it in.
Correct me if I'm wrong, chat, but I believe it was Reagan
Reagan, who talked about the New World Order, that said that the only thing that will bring
us together as a people would be an outside threat, maybe from UFOs, from an alien race,
a threat that the only then will the people come together, band together as one, and bring about
this new world order. So this was something that was mentioned with the New World Order and UFOs
and aliens. And so we have UFO disclosure. We have alien disclosure. We have the Pentagon and the
government releasing all of these videos and transcripts and things that they have,
proven the existence and not quite telling us who or what they are, but saying, hey,
there's something out there. They've been flying in our airspace and we're concerned. We don't
know who they are, what they are, but we do know that their technology is far advanced from
anything that we have is what they say. And people ask me, because I've been speaking on this
for years, what are my thoughts on this? Why are they now opening up a lot of stuff? And I would
say that it is so that they could have the narrative that they could have control of the narrative.
Obviously, for all of my speakers out there, you know that disclosure is happening from the skies.
It doesn't take too long under the night skies, stargazing, until you start seeing some
really interesting stuff out there, my take and we'll get into both sides, my take and maybe
I'm deceived and this is the take because I'll say that for the sake of the devil's advocate is
that those are the good guys that out there that there is an order, there's a universal order
in the heavens that you must adhere to, they're spiritually advanced, they're technologically advanced,
smarter and people are supposedly having beautiful encounters with craft and being
calling themselves contactees and experiences when it comes to the UFO phenomena.
And my theory is that I said it earlier and I could be wrong that these people who are
running the planet don't have our best interest in mind and they're not so nice.
that they're the bad guys from everybody's holy book, really, you know, these people
that are running the world and that the good guys are actually out there, the good guys
that maybe seated us here or watching over us because they've been here since we were
primitive.
They've been here since we were cavemen and women, their iconography is there before
we had any technology and it continues to be there, people are capturing so many things
on video and on camera. My hope and my belief, my true belief is that they are the good guys.
They are the angels of the holy books actually, that they are the watchers. They're watching
over humanity and but I don't know how much they can interact with us. I'll say that.
I don't know that some people would say we're a project or they're just making sure that
we don't destroy ourselves. A lot of different theories like that. So that's what I believe.
The devil's advocate on the other side is what if Reagan is right?
What if Trump is right?
We need a space force.
We have to govern the space above us because there are outside threats that want to destroy
humanity.
They want to invade and so our governments are working together to protect us from this
outside threat.
Again, I don't think that it's real, but what do I know?
It could be.
could be the bad guys, right? And our government's trying to protect us. If anybody wants
to speak to that scenario, ufology and how that comes in to play all right about the same time.
All right, you guys think that there's a very good likelihood that there are other entities out
there. We exist. We can build stuff, you know, for everything. I agree. I totally agree. And
And my theology like shapes, forms me, and I'm glad with it forming me, that for as
everyone, maleficient, that's the way it's the same, what is it, you're a malt-maltry
treating every evil into malicious, yes, every malicious entity there are at least two
benevolent. Right. So that so so my my my theology my belief system really informs me that yeah of course it could definitely we could be having brothers and sisters and family and that we came from family and other systems but I agree with where true seekers that was saying that yeah it could be those that are in
power right now are simply not really analyzing how primitive their motivation is that
it's like there's this source, this grass for absolute power and the grass for absolute
power once again we know absolute power absolutely corrupts. Could it be that those that are
in quote unquote power right now in this system? Could it be that every system, every chance,
just like a deep breath, you get a brand new chance to try it over again.
I've heard you say this before, Derek, and I just love the way you said this, is that when
you look at the whole scope of the Scripture, you see that there is an Elohimic God, a Yahweh
that is saying everything that you try to do when you do it on your own, whether it's
incense, whether it's chanting, whether it's this or that, whatever it is, it has a good part,
But then you have the propensity, you have the tendency just as mere humans and not fully understanding the full scope, you will mess it up.
And so the moment you start with songs, and then after a while you hear scripture where God says, your songs are getting on my nerves.
So that means we don't supposed to sing anymore.
You know, there's this thing by instance, and then he's like, I don't want you instance, so that means we're supposed to do that anymore.
know, it's just that we don't have the full scope of it. And what if those people that are in
power, they're grasping all of this power just like the, the, the same thing of the monkey that's
kind of grabbing, you know, that, that, that, that, that peanut in the bottle, but now I can't get it
because he's grabbing it and wants to hold it all. What if when Elohim, when the, when, when
Yahweh created us in the whole design is let us make humanity and let humanity have
dominion, but there are certain people just taking, no, that's me.
I'm supposed to have dominion, or my race, or my country, or my belief system supposed
to have dominion, when it's really supposed to be spread over the whole humanity, where
we share that dominion, and instead of leaving the word dominion, we share the management,
We share caring for this earth.
I think that's the case, and I think there are entities
that are speaking to us.
And one of my songs, I say, I'm grateful
for extraterrestrial sightings, like Gable and Mikey.
The truth is Gable and Michael are extraterrestrial,
and we've had sightings in the Bible
of extraterrestrial sighting.
Gable was an extraterrestrial sighting.
Good guys.
Michael with their feet.
They're the good guys.
And so there are plenty.
So if you come from that perspective,
because I honestly think that a lot of those guys,
the Reagan, the trucks, and all of them,
that is a fear-based that is a Babylonian scarcity base.
There's only so many resources.
There's so much now I got to kill other people
so I can have it all.
Whereas we have to flip the script
and realized there is abundance, there is way more.
Guys, I'll say this in our show,
I remember one day years ago,
I was walking and praying.
And this is how, you know,
and this may sound woo and out there,
but you know, they said I'm getting too woo-woo.
But I was praying, and I felt the Holy Spirit,
I looked down, I saw a rock.
And I felt the Holy Spirit say,
you know, I know how to turn that rock into silver.
I know how to turn that into gold.
I haven't given it to you as man
because you're still greed-focused.
And the moment you get the recipe,
you won't share it with anybody.
But if you knew how to share it all,
I can heal the whole planet in a day.
I can bless, there's more abundance
where everybody could be blessed,
everybody could be well,
everyone could be healed if we knew how to share.
That's what I'm with you.
That's what I'm with you.
Sharing, sharing, caring.
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We got a lot of beautiful conversation going on there.
So a lot of pros and cons and a lot of things.
But this is a round table, you know what I'm saying?
So this isn't just one idea or this is the only,
I've stayed at my opinion.
I've stayed at where I could be wrong.
I've stayed at where I want to be wrong on anything that is doom and gloom
Definitely, but I feel like it's truth. I want to be proven wrong. So I'm I'm
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Ritchie, what you got?
No, less less.
I want to dive back to something Fred mentioned real quick.
And I'm going to substitute into word custodianship.
So we're like custodians of the planet.
So I want to say that there's this mind form mental space of custodianship.
Like people have ownership.
If you go to campfire and there's a bunch of garbage around,
some people clean it up just because that's what they do.
They're naturally custodians of the space.
They're going on a hike.
There's like a bag of chips or like a red bull can.
and they're going to pick that up naturally.
They may carry it to a garbage,
they may just make sure that it's taken care of.
So I love the ownership,
the level of custodianship,
get a set that on the side burner for a second,
because it's going to be important later.
Racios, how do we measure stuff?
If you're saying I want to work really hard
to somebody else is going to work really hard and you bust.
And then they don't really work as hard as you,
your ratios aren't the same.
So looking at ratios like a full,
a half, a quarter, a eighth,
looking at these ratios.
There was once a way to embed those ratios
inside of iconography.
So it is said that one of the eyes
related to all the secret symbols is actually like a rubric.
Now we're talking like compasses and rulers here,
actual physical measurements
because there needs to be a way
to make an objective standard of reality
in order to improve it.
So ideally, I think people are looking
at the instruction manuals for being a custodian
of planet Earth and misinterpreting it as a battle plan
to destroy as many things as possible.
And it's actually like, this is-
It's fantastic, it's pretty much on point, right?
Let me richy-bake!
I had to do it.
That's much love for you as well, Fred, for sure.
And though, because if you look at God,
and if we are created in this image,
he is the underlying of everything.
You're talking about the one that's serving everyone.
God is serving us all.
He is the custodian of all.
Think about your kids.
Your kids are sitting there and playing.
plan don't realize that you paid the rent so they can play you bought the food so they could
eat so they can have the energy to play you bought the security system and got that piece and
that drawer to keep them under protection so they can eat so they can play and they don't realize
that you are the great custodian of the entire household. God is the great custodian of us all
And then he creates us in his image and says,
I want you to be the chief servant custodian.
And some people look at that and say,
I'm going to be the owner and I'm going to
hire out other people to do the work.
And that's a shortcut.
Yeah.
It's a good way to look at it.
One of the things that keeps coming up
is the Georgia Guidestones.
And I want to read some of these and get your take on them.
I will say my opinion on these is there's the first one it was and is the scariest for most people
but I think if you get past the first one it becomes pretty cool like I think I'm going to
agreement with everything but you know besides the first one um so we're gonna read those and
you know since that one thing you there's one thing that keeps you away from looking into something
And I've been kind of open about my journey with like, you know, looking in the Madame
Blavatsky recently and looking into some of her work.
And there was always a fear there because of maybe some quotes that I read out of context.
Lady has, you know, thousands of pages of work.
You know, that's all they did.
She's created so much stuff and she is, you know, responsible for bringing spirituality
and new thought to the West.
us to be able to explore outside of the notion of organized religion, if you will.
And so that lady has a lot to do with bringing all of these talks to the table with that
I was scared to look into it or I say scared, I judged her as a double worshipper, I judged
her as a Satanist, I judged her as a Luciferian because of three sentences that people
who wanted me to judge her as a Satanist, we're sharing memes, videos, YouTube, so you
miss the other 17,000 pages because you read a sentence that was out of context and not
knowing what she was talking about, even if she's off, why would you negate all of her work
because of this one sentence, right? You know, that could be said for so many people.
But I want to, I'll link that back to the Georgia guide stones of me reading this first one and not really getting past number one.
You know, not really getting past number one because it's kind of shocking.
Number one is to maintain humanity under 500 million and perpetual balance with nature.
And so that one right there opens up the idea of population control.
That we're supposed to govern humanity.
We're supposed to be custodians and not let too many people
because we're not going to have enough resources to feed everybody.
That's the theory.
And the idea, like, listen, the foods we're eating now are not even real food.
Like they're putting like wood chips and they're putting it and they're giving us
plastic, we're eating so much crazy stuff when you come into it about the resources and
like, hey, these people were feeding us plastic, calling it rice.
These people who are, you know, putting wood in the meat to expand it and pumping chicken,
a little bit of chicken, but now they fill it with all of this, just whatever it is that
they put in, not the chickens, this big instantly, like, that's, that's not food, like,
you know what I'm saying?
is there, is there a reason for that?
Is it because there's not enough resources?
So now we're eating plastic, you know?
So, and let's go through the tin.
Let's keep it short because there is tin,
but anybody's, you know, that's the scary one.
People stop there, 500 million, you know,
and we're way more than that.
So we got to have population control.
So.
Mr. Management comes to mind, right?
If you don't know how to manage resources,
then it's never enough.
There's never too few people, right?
They always need to cut population back
or try to take over something.
But really, if it's just being mismanaged,
is that even happening?
That's good.
What do you guys think?
I wanted to win the new year.
Yes, I like that.
The years ago, I had a thought for a science fiction book
book that what if, just like we have channels on a cable vision, on a television,
what if we can shift humanity into different reality channels or phases and then
we have an unlimited amount of people on earth and what if we actually found
That code how to do that
Right, I'm gonna take that in spin it for a second
So what if it wasn't possible for us and not to slip between multiple dimensions like every breath
There's a dimension where you took a deeper breath and there's another dimension where you took a shower breath
So there's constantly this veering of like a radioactive force where we move and just like when you're in the pocket or when you're in the flow
Or when you're jamming with some people and everybody hits that groove we can synchronize our experiences together to a greater
synchronicity, like a cosmic universal orchestra that's beginning to made
manifest through us and right now we're kind of having a commentary on the footprints
of previous iterations of this synchronicity through the limited at the time
the books, the etchings, the symbols, the repeated magic words.
Check out scientifically that's accurate. More we were about quantum physics and the
fabric of the universe itself, more we realize that yeah and another dimension
somewhere we check a deeper breath or shower breath or we are focused on the
negative like oh my god we're all gonna die and that there's a copy of us
running that way going oh my god we all we all had to work step and in this
one we're in war and lightning we say you know what like let's really think
about which different directions everything goes in and everything all time
kind of exists at once and everything is kind of this flux right and it's more
emotional experience and it is a time-based when you're experienced. And so
really, and it's great, you know, that's all very possible. The more we look at
science, we'll find out that it's really what we believe, like you observe
something and you create it, you focus on it, you manifest it in your mind and
your heart, and it starts to come in out, like they can prove it. If there's
actual parameters of reality, like if that's the boundaries, then we need to
be aware of things like I've heard the acronym the FUD, FUD fear uncertainty
doubt and some people get hit with the fun virus in their brain and everything is fear of uncertainty
in their house and then they're shopping it forward rather than like you have a OS upgrade of
faith or belief or knowing this and then you got to carry that kernel inside yourself and you
can propagate copies to other people do that. Oh, I know a little bit less faith today. It's okay.
The faith doesn't need you to have the faith. The faith is interdependent and interdependent and
and all the other faithful.
Right.
Speaking of the observer in the realities and what you see
and things begin to show themselves to you,
what you believe will show itself to you.
There's a reason why I guess Abraham Hicks is so big right now
is because she's teaching about that, the vortex
and being able to focus on the reality
that you want to bring it into fruition,
manifestation is huge, the law of attraction is huge.
And you know, we like to tie things into video games, right?
You know, it's one of our things.
And you know, I'm looking at the open world games.
Let's look at a Skyrim.
And Skyrim is a huge map, a huge game.
It's got, there's creatures everywhere, there's bosses,
there's loot, there's treasure, there's so much stuff.
But in reality, they say that that whole map
isn't even loaded.
Like the only, whatever is loaded is your field of view,
which is, you know, so many feet in front of you.
And as you progress forward, new things begin to load
and the data begins to appear.
So, if I look at that at like, you know, Skyrim,
that's interesting, that's a one player game.
But even the MMOs, so let's just think
if there were many people on that same map
and the map is so big that people are everywhere,
but it's only like this little bit field of vision
that the game is loaded,
and the game doesn't even load until you go there
to look at it, and then it shows itself to you.
It just exists as information somewhere,
and so you see it, but it still exists.
Everything is really made of event.
That's another bound we're breaking.
It's the way that we discover like energy and mass
we're related Einstein and E,
because MC squared, special theory of relativity.
So, just in the same way,
information is related to energy.
So, we're actually not only are we made it,
like my physical body is made of energy.
It's also really just made of information.
And that's true.
That's like we're discovering that now.
It's kind of a breakthrough and that aligns
with everything else.
Like, oh, cool.
We are really what we're doing.
Because we really are what we're doing.
Physical.
It's good.
Chris Garner here in the chat, good friend, a long time friend here on the show and personal
friend.
But he says, one guy's hoax, it's just some stones in the field.
So therefore, and that's a big thing too, hoaxers, it's easy to make a fake government
document, share it, crumble it up, take a picture of it, scan it on the internet and it
go viral. That is one thing that, um, man, it, uh,
Snopes has been my friend. And I, all my true friends are pissed right now that I said
that you trust Snopes, how dare you listen. Snopes has gotten me out of a lot of fear base.
Oh my God, they're coming for us. And let me just look it up. Oh, that's where it came from.
That's where they originated. Somebody showed this and that. So snopes and things that people
People have actually done their independent research and can back it up and show you versus
like the Facebook fact checkers like this.
So maybe it's not definitely not the same thing.
But the idea that people can hoax stuff, make something up, make a fake article, make
a fake meme, Photoshop something on somebody's shirt, you know, all kinds of stuff that
ended up going viral and it was never real to begin with.
And so these hoax take off.
So what you have is people muddying the water and it's definitely done on the internet.
But what if, and I would say most likely so, the Georgia guide stones are, I would say
they're most likely a hoax that like we're going to reveal our plan to you and you can
go read it for yourselves if you want to catch up on what we're trying to do, it's in
a field in Georgia.
like, you know, one person's hoax, one person's thing becomes somebody else's reality.
And I hate, I hate it when they're shared.
When I start seeing them shared and go viral and people comment and then digging and jab
and I'm like, oh, like this is totally proven wrong.
But it's just catching fire, like everyone's sharing it.
Every now and then I try to check people, hey, bro, you need to look that up.
Like, and I mentioned one and I'm going to try to be careful with the names or what I
say, but there was this one of a picture in ancient Egypt and it was like a iconography
on the walls of painting it look like or maybe out of some type of scroll or something. Anyway,
it was someone doing some type of surgery and it was a little guy shoving this long thing
up a dude's nose and it was like in the ancient Egypt Egyptian looking painting and then it had all
all of this, it had the font and the text said that this was a means of enslavement.
So what they would do in ancient Egypt is that they would shove these things up the slaves
nose and it would bust the blood brain barrier between the brain and the nasal cavity and
it would make them more susceptible to sickness so that they could not be strong and they
They could not escape, and they could not think for themselves, and this meme was shared
everywhere.
And I was like, wow, that's deep, man.
They did that in Egypt, and they're doing it now.
God, like, it sounds like a test that we know of.
And so I ended up looking it up and snopes in it, and it shows you where it came from.
And if you look closely, it wasn't going up the dude's nose, actually going into his
eye.
It was a certain surgery that they did to treat people with cataracts.
But somebody screenshotted it and put a false narrative.
Now the false hoax narrative becomes the main narrative and got us panicking.
If you have slaves, you want just slaves to be strong anyway.
We want a weak and powerless slave.
A weak slave that can't work and because he's always sick.
Come on, man.
It don't even make sense, but the internet, man.
This stuff's getting out of control, you know?
What's interesting to me is that if you kind of step back and look at that, it's almost
if you can compare an analogy of when we were all in middle school, and it's just human
nature that when something goes wrong, the person blames themselves.
I can think of many things that even from my family, only down the line, family
line family issues, but I not having all of the information said as a kid, although there's
something wrong with me.
And then from there, anything that would confirm that false belief, I just added it to
my story and now I built an entire case.
And it wasn't until years later on down the line that I'm really dismantling all of these
false beliefs and false cases that I've built it. And I just believe it, this is just it,
this is the way it is. But what you built it on was built on a false notion. So you got to take
the time to dismantle it. I think to a degree, maybe that's where we're going through on a human
level. Maybe our human level is still middle school. We haven't grown as much as we thought we were
because we're still believing false goods
and building cases off of these false belief systems,
they're like, yeah, that shows you something's wrong with us.
And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Just take the step back and realize that you are
feel fully and wonderfully made and you can do great things
if you put your mind to it. But if you put that same mind to these terrible things,
you're going to be really good at doing terrible things.
Yeah, all the reasoning to do it because you've you fed yourself those things, you know that aren't real, but they become real to you
Yeah, scary
Becomes your life. It becomes real eventually. It doesn't seem real, but it one day it is
It becomes real
And you speak and become real
Yeah, I have a cadavers for sure. I think something with
with literacy, when there were only certain people that were literate in only certain books,
you had like a level of integrity inside the content of the books, because the books were
written by people who were literate, ideally two people who were literate.
But now we've kind of, we're slipping back into non-literacy by people reading emojis
and communicating through hieroglyphics, which are great.
That's fine, as long as you're making your own emojis, as long as you're creating your
own content in that way, but now I'm seeing that there's like an argument to kind of
anchor back to the custodian metaphor kind of enclosing, because I'm going to jump out
kind of roll forward. I think that a lot of people are involved in arguing if the custodians
from times before where good people are bad people. Like these custodians were good, but the
order of these custodians were wrong. And the Bavarian custodians were good, but the other custodians
were bad. And I think it's more so, how clean is things around? Is your housing good order?
Are your relationships measured? Do you have good ratios in relating with people? If somebody
lets you down, does that destroy you? Or does it let you down and you appropriately can realize that
you let people down to and so you're not going to destroy what you've built with them because it's
on stable ground at a good foundation. Now that's my mind frame in it and super great full and
gratitude for the inclusion in the conversation. I think it's what you make it so it could be good
but I know that everybody involved should be blessed gratitude.
Yeah so I mean it works both ways it works the way of the doom and gloom in the conspiracy theory
and finding a devil or demon and everything like we've done.
And it also works in a way of being pessimistic,
not pessimistic, but optimistic and hopeful,
wide-eyed and hopeful.
And yeah, everything's going to be OK, guys.
Just kind of hang on, you know?
And I'm sure there's a balance.
Balance is key in everything of the past present
and the future, if you will.
I agree. I think that there are some wonderful things, and I think the new world order
is going to, it does, has so have some wonderful things, and it has some terrible things,
it has some good, some bad, and ugly, just like, we don't realize, I mean, when you read
What is the Kuneo form, tablets, and all that kind of stuff?
Babylon was a wonderful place.
And Babylon, I'm sure, did a lot of good.
I'm sure Babylon brought a heeled and helped a lot of people.
I remember from the first time reading the richest man in Babylon.
And I was like, in Babylon, because my, once again,
my theology formed me at that time to think.
Babylon was absolutely terrible. It's the wrong thing. I didn't realize I had a
prophetic bias against Babylon. And Egypt. And Egypt. Same thing. Egypt is a
wonderful thing. It's every epoch. So will the new order have some good
stuff in it? Will. Will we, for me personally, I look at I'm glad something told
me to rebuild in the dragon this morning. And as I'm reading building the
Dragon, I'm realizing, oh wow, there's this man of God
that has this great relationship with this king,
this politician, and through their relationship,
they're able to kind of filter through
and see what is best religion,
what is not so best religion,
and be filled and grow together.
They're gonna need to be people in place
to connect with others in a new world order
to lead them through the way.
We'll again, gotta be those people.
Looking at Catholicism as the universal religion,
it's a combination of all religions, you know,
and everyone will again, we'll go back,
they say it's borrowed.
Listen, the flood story came from Sumer, you know,
the, I've heard other stories in Egypt about a holy man
that had power coming from the hem of his garment,
You know, you hear all of these things and it's a debate
it's to be looked into, but it seems like,
and I'm open for it, it seems like there's a reason
why most of these other holy books and these practices
are erased and we don't know the traditions of them.
Now people are fighting for them.
Again, mentioning Egypt, we got a bunch of beautiful
comedic brothers who really understand Egypt
and they're bringing a lot of beautiful philosophies
to the table from, from, uh, from chemit and I really appreciate those guys, especially
the ones that are open for other, other beliefs and interpretations. Um, but yeah, we, we
judged it. We judged Egypt as Egypt means the land of bondage, right? The word means bondage,
but who was, who was it in bondage too? One people who were in bondage there for, for
other people, it was a beautiful, prosperous place and understanding that the place, you
know, Egypt was even a call to Egypt, it was called Kimmit or Komet.
So, you know, it's just different people's experiences with different things.
It was the land of bondage to those people who were in slavery and we look at the BLM movement
now, those people mentioning that even in the chat.
Like there's a reason why those people and Fred when you came down to the retreat,
You were open and honest about your last name,
keeping your last name,
you thought about getting rid of it,
your last name is Lynch, Fred Lynch,
and understanding where that claim from
and what that means to you and your people.
Like there's, you know,
you have a different relationship with that word,
with the history, with the iconography of America,
than other people do.
So it's like everybody's plight,
everybody's experience in this world is different,
different things trigger us, different things.
Symbols mean different things to us.
If you're studied and you've researched the new world order
and the pyramid with the capstone and all C&I,
like that means something to you versus that your church
uses something similar as their logo.
You know, the upside down cross, I'm big on symbolism.
The upside down cross for most people
is has the deal with Satanism.
When you take a symbol and you invert it,
you are coming against it
and you're bringing forth the opposite,
the anti-Christ, evil,
but we start seeing that iconography even on churches.
We start seeing it on the Catholic churches,
the universal church,
and we see symbols of the upside-down cross,
and I told you they were demonic.
I told you they were Satanists.
I looked at one of these intricate dejos
and it's upside-down crosses every 10 foot.
When it's a hold on, to them,
that is a veneration of Saint Peter
who thought it was robbery to be crucified
the same way as his Lord.
So he said, I don't want to be hung on the cross.
Crucify me upside down.
I'm not worthy to be crucified the same way to him.
So the Catholic Church saying that they are built on Peter
as their pillar.
So that's a symbol that is near and dear to their philosophy,
but to everybody else as an outsider, you're scared.
And what if these same signs and symbols,
They obviously mean different things to the ruling class
and the elite than they mean to us.
So much more.
Go ahead and run something, you take something ancient
and rerun it under nefarious purposes.
It's a false flag operation, steals the environment
and repurposes it and changes happens a lot actually.
Yeah.
Everything's changing.
I like the origins, though.
Origins are fun.
I really do like to go back and see where things came from,
what they meant, you know, the pentagram,
where that came from and the people that use it
and symbology and the all seeing eye.
Like, you know, the majority of people see the all,
see and I, listen, I've gotta, it is my capstone.
I have the, that's my shoulder pieces,
the all seeing eye of God, taken from Psalm chapter 33
that the eye of God will watch over his people
and in all ancient culture, they use the eye of God as a symbol for the creator that watches
over everyone, and many, many religions and beliefs, it's synonymous for the sun.
The sun is where we get our sustenance and without the sun, we don't exist.
Your crops do not grow.
You have no heat and you don't exist.
If that sun goes away, you're dead.
So looking up the symbolism and seeing even the Native Americans using the All-C and
the eye that's inside of the hand, the eye that's in the pyramid, all of these places.
So most people don't know that, or they think that they were part of the nefarious order,
that all of these religions are part of that all-seeing order. You know what I'm saying? So
I love symbolism. It's amazing.
I'm going to run through the remaining 10 inscriptions for the Georgia guide stones.
So number one is to maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.
And that's a scary one.
Hey man, they're coming for us.
But I feel like the rest of it opens up.
Number two, to guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity.
Number three, unite humanity with a living new language.
Number four, rule passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason.
Five, protect people in nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external
external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Price, truth, beauty, and love,
seeking harmony with the infinite.
And number 10, be not a cancer on the earth, leave room for nature, leave room for nature.
Doesn't seem too bad, you know?
Seeing that this is most likely a hoax, but I can't personally say that I disagree with
those tenants, you know?
What about you guys?
Anything jump out to you?
I mean, we want just laws, we want social justice.
other than the key population down the part, the rest of them are pretty cool.
Other than that, yeah, why not. So, small detail.
So, I guess it's now letting you unmute Fred. Let's see.
Okay, it should be good now.
Okay, sorry about that. I'm muted because I was driving through a piece.
You know, with the last one where you said,
be not a cancer on the earth.
It reminded me of something when Google first started.
Do you know Google's model when they first started?
Don't be evil.
Don't be evil.
Don't be evil.
And I always like to quote that because I
think if we look at where Google is now
and the average person that would look at E. Google,
would they say they are evil?
I think, honestly, I would say you started out saying,
don't be evil.
I think some things have changed.
They dropped it.
OK, and they were born.
Why did you drop that slogan?
Don't be evil.
Yeah, why did you drop it?
Why are you certainly not cool?
Because I think that some of that is also
the transference of power.
I think that when Google was coming up,
they were the young kid on the block
had some new innovative ideas that was going to mean more
for others, so and so forth.
But it was also going to disrupt the previous power system.
And as a result, they defined the previous power system
as evil. So when they said don't be evil, they were saying don't do what the
previous power structure did to hold people back. Now that they have the power,
it's not just getting power, it's not just getting it or attaining, it's also a
matter of sustenance sustaining. It's not just a main grabbing it, getting it. It's also keeping
it. And in order to keep it, they found out that they had to do things like squash other people
by other companies out, you know, take other people out, which could be if I and that's evil.
And you know, the new don't be evil is going to be helped define by the things that the current power structures do it.
So do you see that?
Am I on to something here?
What do you think about that?
Not just is that something that's going on there?
But it seems like from their perspective they would think that if they're the evil ones they would think doing good as evil, wouldn't they?
Maybe somebody took it over.
I don't think that they think they are evil.
Right, they think they're doing the right thing.
And so, you know, talking about, I remember on tour when I was on tour once and I was with a guy that was our tour.
One of our road guys that I won't describe who he was because I don't want it to get out
but this guy was a
Very cool dude a very powerful guy in this touring system that I was a part of
It was from Tennessee his day his great granddad was part of cochlez play
So his narrative of slavery
Was hey, there was a lot of slaves that were happy to be slaves. Yeah, there's a lot of people say believe that
So, I come with a whole different story, and I say,
held now, you know, and I can show you time and time again
where slaves revolted constantly revolted.
My namesake, Fred, three Douglas, and he just made it so good,
he said this in his story about being up from slavery.
He said that the more that I became human,
The more I naturally revolted against slavery there were there was a time where I was so I was so caught in it
And he said specifically when I had a slave master that kept me just in inches of my life all I had
All I cared about was I got a live I got this on let me get up because I'm gonna get whipped
Let me do this work because I'm gonna get whipped and he said the moment that I had a slave master said
I'm gonna give you all for Sunday
Because it's a sad
And he said all of a sudden I got off on Sunday and I I wanted to rest why so I can do work better Monday through
Friday or Monday through Saturday, but then after I started rest I want to I want to learn to read so I can actually do better in my work
And every step of like a little bit of humanity that made more to the truth of I was never meant to be a slave
But this slave masters hold on power,
define what he thought was not evil,
as a very, very evil thing,
of keeping a person locked in blindness
and saying, yeah, you're just going to have to be happy
to be alive, so as a result,
I'm going to whip you every time I can,
just so you could just think about living,
and now you're going to be completely obedient
to what I do and what I say.
Right.
They might say they're talking about, and now you were to find that that is not happy.
Yeah.
They're very, very evil.
Right.
Don't do people.
Don't do the cancer over there.
Yeah.
And so, hence the idea of an ally, you know, and somebody willing to listen to that plight,
you know, somebody, let's just say a white person, somebody outside of that spectrum,
a way of treatment.
Obviously, they're connected with it because they see it.
But that's huge for the progression of someone who hasn't
been through that plight.
And they have a different narrative.
And mentioning Ku Klux Klan and KKK,
I talk about it.
I worked with those individuals.
They were my bosses at work, and I didn't know it.
They were all card-carrying clansmen.
Here I am, you know, a rapper and all my friends are black
and all of this kind of stuff.
And we start getting into conversation.
Then I found out, I understood that.
Then I found out that they used the Bible to justify
their racism.
And they've got from Jesus the revelation,
like scriptures highlighted all about power
and racism and all of this kind of stuff.
And that's their narrative is like, you know,
and then you think it goes deeper
than just something that we believe or our sect or our society or the Ku Klux Klan believe,
no, God believes it. You start putting God's name and God's name and God's name and God's
name.
Yes.
Another primitive way of thinking that had to be destroyed with a greater collective of people
and it did and there's much more that's happening. So you see that and a lot of people,
You know, women's lib, you know, women being able to vote and not to be, you know, even
in biblical times, like, you get a lot of scrutiny on the scriptures because it says, listen,
they're like, they looked at your wife as your property.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, they had to change.
Like, there wasn't right just to think that everything in there was right or righteous or
hold on.
Well, you know, it's so much debate, but things are changing and things have to change.
And the way that we treat same-sex attracted people, transgender people, like you have
to change.
You have to, where we're going to progress in the world.
And it's sad, I don't say it's sad, it's scary when it's done by force, because it should,
we would hope that it would be a slow, yeah, you're not so bad kind of thing, but now it's
like hold on, we're tired of begging for your acceptance, we're tired of begging for our
freedom and begging not to get whipped that hey the the collective it like there has to be a
change and and we're seeing change it's so weird because what was so normal to people you know
100 years ago like right it's so primitive and so demonic for us to think about it and there's
more the treatment of gays and them not being people or them looking at them as as people but
looking at them as even people who are bound for hell like you know in
conversation or or people who are broken and yeah that and that that was the
last 800 years so so a question here is that so if the new world order brings
about a type of treatment that gives a sense of equal overall equality to
homosexuals equality to people outside of your own racial you know circle is
is that bad, I just don't think that's bad.
I think like, wow, we need to understand
how to treat one another as fellow human beings
and honor that they are made in the image and likeness
of God with infinite value, dignity, and words, period.
We gotta understand that, but the old world order,
just that wasn't a part of the makeup.
I wasn't one of the components.
Again, so the interesting thing is like, where do we go from here?
Where do we go from here is the interesting thing because those are a lot of major shifts
and major changes and I even pointed out some little stuff in church, the way you pray,
women preachers, head coverings, like little things that kind of get left behind or we
don't need any more, we don't need racism, we don't need slaves, we don't need bigotry
and judgment you know there's a lot of things we just leave behind and so we're changing
as a civilization and as a people but it's always where do we go from here because at some
point we're gonna look back at the things that we do nonchalantly or just it's part of our makeup
and it's gonna repulse a generation or two three generations from now they're gonna look back
and say yeah I'll be what you guys you guys had to work at a job you hated what you didn't get
get the pick your career when you were seven
and get the paint and be taken care of,
you didn't get to be a rapper and people trade,
you know, I don't know where it goes from here,
but that's the question, where do we go from here?
Because a generation or two for now,
things are changing so fast that it might not even be that long.
We did what, let us grieve over our sins,
the sins of our ancestors and what we did
in a way we treated people.
It seems like we've done our best,
like everything's good, like we got equality,
we've got, you know, for everybody, men, women, black,
white, like everybody, everything's fair.
So it seems like we're okay.
We're heading a good direction,
but there's other things that we are not yet aware of
that are ways of living, even technologically,
going to Blockbuster, you know what I'm saying?
That you never do again.
These things are primitive, they're ancient
and they just don't exist.
So it's interesting to think about that as the culture.
Even more interesting, I think I first
started thinking about this with music.
Like, where can we use it go now?
Okay, we got EDM, we've got genres mixing together,
there's Lincoln Park and there's people
who are like pushing the envelope,
there's country rap.
But like, where do we go now?
Even with music.
Where do we go?
And we don't know until the progression,
until we're in it, you know?
Yeah, well, I think the only thing that goes on forever is when it's in the circle, when it's in that figure eight
Yeah, so that means it goes in cycles and so it'll go in the cycle, but you're right
What what defines where the cycle is moving to and that we you got to only be in real time with that to see and
To me it reminds reminiscent of
of meditation itself.
It's like, for example, even noticing our own evil.
Well, all that happened in 2020
and all that happened with,
with, you know, the January 6th,
so on and so forth.
When we look at that,
a lot of that is almost to me,
is reminiscent of waking up in the morning
and seeing yourself in the mirror for the first time
and maybe seeing something on your face.
And it's like, oh, this ugly,
I can either get mad at the mirror and bust the mirror
because that mirror is always the truth about me.
Yeah.
Or I can just wipe this stuff off my face.
That's true.
And we need more mirrors.
Yeah, and the more compassion that I have,
the more ability that I have to,
the capacity that I have to take in the truth,
there's something on my face.
The more capacity I have to take in the truth,
I'm not being equal.
For example, I'm really as a call to the church right now,
but in my opinion, the church needs to wake up
in the way that we treat same sex of loving people.
We don't treat them with love and the more capacity
that we allow ourselves to have,
the more we'll see.
Oh, and just I love the point how you bring out.
Now it's like, well, I love you, but I don't love your sin.
I personally have been challenged on that.
It's like, no, well, if they are,
They are, and I love you as a person,
created in God's image with infinite value, dignity,
and worse, I celebrate them.
Celebrate them as a human.
Period.
That's it.
No strings attached.
It's not, I love you as an Lord.
You're not attached.
I don't love you in the Lord.
I don't love you with the love of Jesus.
No, no, I love you.
I really do.
Guys, this is the end of the podcast, man.
I've enjoyed this roundtable discussion.
Thank you guys for hanging out.
Thank you, everybody in the chat there.
There's some beautiful comments
and some intriguing ones.
Brent, Brentley, TV, Paul, Willcock,
King, Secret, Victory, Garden, Carl, Ross, and everybody.
We've had a lot of people join us today, man.
And so we're gonna keep doing these.
And thank you guys so much for hanging out.
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We'll do it again.
Peace, peace.
So much higher than mine, so much higher than mine.
So much higher than mine, so much lower than mine.
So much deeper than mine.
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