Reincarnation Scenarios, The Next Age & Steering Clear From Celebrity Christianity | Next Agers
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Daniel hey this is Daniel and from
Appleton Wisconsin interesting to hear
that Adina is in Wales I just kind of
like a word of knowledge about you know
yes with what's on the father's heart I
got a word of knowledge about somebody
in Wales as foretold somebody who needed
to accept their acceptance
Wow Wow cool yeah I know so so talk
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yeah well this is who we are together we
form the Brady Bunch as you guys bunch
the next day you don't in the next
stages and so that's kind of a term that
we've coined not the new-age because
that's kind of distinct but the next
days that is the age to come and so it's
it's interesting again that we all bring
something different to the table we
bring our piece of the puzzle and as we
we show up it formulates a picture and
and it really is about showing up and
being authentic and who you are and how
quirky or how different or how bizarre
that may be or seem you just show up and
we're in a group of people who can
safely and freely talk about our
encounters our experiences without
someone calling the cops and admitting
us to the hospital or something right
because you know in so for me most you
guys know like I'm in to the next stage
of thing of what God is doing in the age
to come my biggest thing is is searching
the Scriptures and kind of revisiting
the the lost traditions of the Bible or
our ancestors and what they had and kind
of incorporating incorporating that into
the lives of the believers now what but
in the transition there is the next
stages what call it God has given us us
to kind of go and see what the new
things that the Lord is doing as well
and implementing that so we're in a good
company of people with this next ages
and shift and things like that so if
anybody I mean it's a good place to
start if anybody wants to talk about the
next stage and and and well we know the
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but what Waterside we loved area can I I
gotta apologize because I think I really
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you who are watching Derrick you're back
on your your good yeah
carry on you froze up there go ahead I
was just saying it just no it's just a
good good way to transition into let
somebody you know talk about what the
next stage is and what are some of the
things that set the ages apart
especially with the spiritual practice
again I love going but I'm trying to I'm
trying to recore per eight the old the
old ways the ancient paths into what
we're doing but even the bits of that
there's some new things that are coming
in kind of bridging the old and the new
together so if anybody wants to kind of
see what that they're like I wonder if I
could chime in because I don't have much
time to share with you again we're
getting okay so what I'd like to share
with you is just about that the Lord is
leading me to to look at really hard
look at what it means to live out of the
tree of life versus the tree of
knowledge of good and evil and Gil you
were on my heart this morning and the
Lord we've been reminded me that this
was going on and even even provided that
the time for me to be a part of this
this morning so glad you're here
that's that's what I'd like to go after
and I know that there's there's like
lots of wisdom in this group about that
and just what the Lord's been showing me
is that a freedom from judgment because
the tree knowledge of good and evil is
all about judgment and that somehow
we've gotta rise above all that we could
need to just live out of the life of
Christ and oh I'm just feeling the Holy
Spirit right now as I say that there's
so much glory on that living out of the
way out of a life of Christ and calling
others number up to that out of whatever
kind of sin mentality that's blocking
them from experience in the life of
Christ themselves so good Daniel yeah
and I know you just have a little bit of
time so whatever you want to pipe in
before you go please do you know I'm
being analytical I'm always I'm judging
whether I'm in the tree of life
so okay so here's my specific the
question that's but was rattling around
and I've just been chewing on spiritual
mapping because it's the definition of
spiritual mapping is knowing the good
and the evil right where the hotspots of
evil where the hotspots of good and
doing that spiritual mapping yet
everyone is into it thinking it's a tree
of life moving into the next stage thing
to do I don't know what do you guys
think well for me you know it's
interesting you're saying this because
I've been teaching on this the problem
with that is is that instead of us
looking to the blueprint that God's
given us for a particular place or
region you know we don't we're looking
at the devil well seeing what demon did
why on what principality and what what
power so because we don't really realize
the way of power and authority in our
mouth right we're actually doing when
we're speaking that is we're creating
the house for that particular
principality to come on so it's stronger
now through our spiritual mapping then
we wonder why is the situation worse now
than it was before where instead if we
know who we are as matured sons we have
a place in a position to be in the
father to get the blueprint for that
particular place or region and release
that blueprint and let me tell you
something attached to that blueprint are
Angelica coasts
there's the powers of the Lord Jesus
that God created that's attached to that
blueprint that we'll go find on our
behalf and establish the blueprint that
comes out of the desire the father
starts so we don't I personally don't
think we need to do spiritual mapping
because that brings us into warfare and
we're out of that season of warfare
sitting right on with ya agree with them
and the demon I think you were gonna say
something weren't you well just along
the similar lines is its where we're
looking and when we keep our focus on
the blueprint of the father the
blueprints down here below that the
enemy has is irrelevant and so it's it's
a joy to be able to step up beyond that
and to see things from a totally
different perspective and and I know we
get a lot of emails and different
things from different people you know
about demons or getting this done or
that done and it's like until people are
willing to shift their mindset we really
can't help them because as long as
you're focused in that place you know
it's there's not a lot we can do yeah
and whatever we look to you know becomes
a source of our supply we're attracting
and it's growing bigger and bigger so
yeah yeah what you feed grows absolutely
and I think that's what what Daniel is
saying is as well and that I'm seeing
this that's living from the tree of life
I mean that's your you are giving life
focusing on life and when life comes in
death which is already defeated as we
know cannot stay and it it leaves and
flees as well and so I think it's
focusing in that space is just so good
it transforms that's what transforms
because when we're in the fight it
doesn't transform it breaks free from
some things but deliverance happens in
the midst of the Tree of Life as almost
a byproduct is what what I'm finding I
think you guys are the same yeah it's
funny funny you say that because like
we're told Matt be more like a blueprint
even I have a blueprint for spiritual
warfare it's very simple
but each one is kind of intricate and
detailed all all in its own James 4:7 is
my blueprint and and there's a step and
there's orders and a process they're
number one is submit yourselves to God
resist the devil and three he will flee
it's it's interesting what you guys are
presenting this is that maybe some
people think that it's the other way
around
first of all resist the devil secondly
submit to God but it's the other way
around submit yourselves to God to make
sure that every area of your life you're
submitted to God in your mind and your
thought process your your relationships
your business you know what I'm saying
in the scriptures give us details on how
we can be submitted to God in all of
these areas but that's it ask the father
one of the plum lines you know examining
yourself to make sure that you're in
The Tree of Life and you're operating
out of that and all of the other stuff
like Jesus says in Matthew it's gonna
it's going to be given unto you all of
the things that you need supernaturally
the blessings the finances the spiritual
victories over those principalities and
powers and demons it's going to be added
unto you as long as you are number one
submitted to God a big part of what
we're stepping into is we have to live
from that place of relationship of
asking father in everything because as
we look at spiritual practice if we're
not careful it just becomes you know you
know the new becomes the old and we get
formatted and well this is the way to do
it or that's the way to do it but living
from the tree of life it's a constant
adventure we did it this way yesterday
but today father may have a new way of
doing it and our mind open and
continuing Italy having that
relationship with father so that we can
move and transition quickly that we
don't make the new you know idle right
exactly yeah so like following the
father that's interesting you say that
because like even with the name of
giving myself truth seekers like you can
find you know you're supposed to have
found the truth but the truth is
something that we're continually
following in kind of you know I'm saying
mirror images the Israelites in the
desert following the father now if they
made camp in this area for so long the
father's moving you gotta follow me I'm
teaching a little follow me right all
right yeah that's good good PS on on all
of this and the number one key is really
spending time I hear a lot of time I
just don't have time to spend hours okay
well then you have to spend the time so
you get that relationship going
the intimate place with him and then
you're able to see your scroll and
develop you know who you are in Christ
your own identity
right that's right cool thing about time
is you know as we go on this journey to
understand that time is not linear and
static like we have thought yeah as we
build that relationship with time it
expands absolutely and and so that's
that's the joy of this is you know if we
get into an old rut Imola I've got this
amount of time every day or I'm not you
know but it's like okay as I as I make
friends with time and build that
relationship it expands and that the
tiny will open up more and more for us
yeah it's interesting too because like I
know you've guys have seen this of like
maybe having a spiritual father or being
discipled by other people in the face
who were really good and really
knowledgeable and it's taken them not
years just taking them a lifetime to
really get this wisdom but for the the
people who are coming up under them
there's like an acceleration in that
process where things that took them 20
years to grasp it may take us six months
to grasp and we begin to get this
information and we accelerate and then
we raise people up under us which the
same things we get all the good stuff
and they learn and we just pass it down
almost like it's a spiritual DNA of like
the you know I'm saying a family tree we
have a spiritual family tree and then
they get it a lot faster some things so
just as the scripture says a day is like
a thousand years time is really weird in
the kingdom so you just have to make
that time because when you tap in even
if it's only for a few minutes the way
God has a way of giving you those
downloads he may even start it in the
secret place and continue to give you
the revelation throughout the day on the
job site in your relationships with your
wives and in spouses or watching
television you started it in the secret
place and now God is continuing to give
you the revelation as you're watching
your favorite TV show with your family
like that's how this works right I might
just pop in for a minute here just I've
got to get going here
and one minute so I just want to say I
love you all I love all her
Chane father loves you I just wanted to
encourage you to that what I've what I
would have come into over the last few
months is something amazing and it's
gonna make some people feel like they're
crazy when they experience it and I just
want you to know you're not alone of
just like the father isn't it is tapping
into you like your kindred spirit ride
saints and angels in the Kingdom of
Heaven that we get to commune with that
they're coaching us and guiding us or
nurturing us and that when we speak in
tongues were communicating with them and
they're communicating with in and
through us to others and this is where
they're one of pouring so much wisdom
and help into our lives if we allow it
and so you guys can if you choose to you
can take that and run with it if you
want but I just want to bless you all
this time I love you all a little bit
yeah yes all right take care okay bye
bye bye so now if we could just get the
Michael Basham to get out here crazy
early in Hawaii it is it is so so we had
talked about you know in Derek you
already kind of pushed into this a
little bit but what are some of the
other things that we think you know that
we sense in the spirit that's resonating
in our spirit that are going to be part
of the age to come and I do just want to
say that I believe that we are the
transition Aries and so there may be
things that are part of the transition
but may not necessarily be part of the
next stage you know in its fullness you
know there's gonna be some transition
time but what are some of those things
you think that are going to just pass
over and be solid in this age to come I
believe personally it's going to be us
transfiguring and becoming just like
Christ you know I know where we've been
here and get it's in the Bible you know
that it says if any man be in Christ
then he becomes a new creation or a new
creature we're supposed to be Jesus with
skin on not just as a figure of speech
like literally literally reflect who he
is you know that the governments of this
you know the kingdoms of this government
will become the kingdoms of our God and
not only here on the earth but I believe
in every part of his creation I believe
you know the next age the age to come is
us transforming we must transform in
order to release what the father wants
to release on the earth and in all of
creation and I believe that's part of
the maturity of the sons that's why God
is taking us through maturity process
you know so that we can walk in the
fullness of that not just talk about it
but actually which means not dying which
means you know regenerating our DNA what
it means all of that to actually tap
into you know the supernatural life
resurrection power resurrection life now
we don't have to die that's part of the
curse we do not have to die come on oh I
believe that that's a huge thing that
God is wanting us to transition into we
must begin to live our present out of
our future amen
present out of the age to come so with
that I'm gonna actually run over to
Martin coz Martin you uh you already
kind of brought this question up and I
think this really dovetails right into
that so once you ask your question and
you say what you want to say on that
piece because it's a big question I
think I mean part of that was the
discussion with Mike Parsons that you
guys had and it is exactly that question
do we do we have to physically die and
that's something I've always assumed yes
because everybody that I know has died
you know between 70 and a hundred years
old and I always assumed right that our
the human lifespan was limited to one
hundred and twenty years cuz by golly
that's what the Bible says right but
when as I've started investigating and
to be honest my son 17 year old son is
convinced you know he's not and and I
had he's forced me to really wrestle
with it but when you look at Genesis 6
the 120 year lifespan is was from
you know the time that God gave Noah the
command and build the ark and then get
into the ark was a hundred and twenty
years because then later Abraham lived
175 years way after the ark yeah so then
that would mean we stuck to the 120 then
God wasn't accurate he misspoke which we
know doesn't happen yeah that was a
biblical breakthrough for me and then as
we look at everything Jesus talked about
was an eternal life and if we look into
first Corinthians 15 the latter half of
that you know I was talking through some
of the youth on Saturday night and one
of them you know just said well it
sounds like this is a choice like that
we have a choice to live or to die and
it was like you're right on let me let
me play the devil's advocate though let
me do what the devil's advocate in that
you know we've seen in all the movies
and stuff right of like this person who
drinks the elixir for everlasting life
and they get to remain healthy young and
vibrant and they live for ages and eons
but they've seen their families grow old
in wither away and they're friends and
they're still good but they've had their
like say goodbye to their lovers and and
who grow old and weary that that would
be a fear I I do I think it's a choice
and you know when you look just at John
6 starting with verse of what 49 and
down when Jesus talks about him being
the breath of the bread of life I mean
Jesus says 9 times 9 times you know 9 is
a birthing every time you read the Bible
you know numerical things it's God's
trying to say something he said your
father's ate manna in the desert yet
they died so here's manna of
supernatural substance that came from
the hand of God and yet they died and
then Jesus says but I am the bread of
life he who eats of my flesh and drinks
of my blood shall never die now
not salvation based you know from what I
feel it's the physical death so I do
believe it's a choice you know it's like
you said Derek you know it's kind of
easy like I don't know if I want to do
that cuz I don't know if I want to see
my loved ones die and I I totally I
totally get that and and yet I do
believe that if we fully are engaged
with our mandate in our scroll and our
blueprint and we know who we are and
what we have to do number one I feel
like and this isn't me personally but I
feel like I would have a a heavenly
perspective and eternal perspective yeah
and I would understand that even though
they did not make the choice or weren't
able to make the choice to live as long
that I will see them again so you know
yeah is it gonna be hard losing people
absolutely but there's going to be a
passion and a fulfillment in my heart
and in my spirit and in my scroll to
carry on to do what I've been called to
do because I'm working as a son of God
as a mature son I'm working in that
aspect to accomplish whatever it is
father is given to me and for me I
believe that is going to supersede you
know that choice to die with my family
or to die with my my friends and and and
yet again you know we haven't talked
about this we haven't brought it up but
you know they if you're looking at the
restoration of all things then you know
eventually we know that we're gonna see
those people again you know one way or
another so anyway that's just one thing
I'd throw out there that that's deep
because like you would have to really to
really not be moved by the flesh but be
moved by the spirit and compassion with
that it get to understand you have to
see through the eyes of the Father
because literally he's been doing that
Jesus had popped in and out of every age
every Aeon of like just coming here
dealing with humanity showing up hey I'm
with you in the fire hey I'm here I'm
the auntie love the Lord and God just
watching us be born do our thing and
then that generation die off so he's
literally had to watch generations of
people come and go and come and go and
then physically take on a body and come
down here so it's like he almost like
chose to like you know what I want to I
want to know what it feels like to be
one of you and I want to feel what it
feels like to have my
ripped and torn and give up the ghost
and go through it with you to show you
that we've overcome to show you what
everlasting life really is so in order
to walk in that you would literally have
say okay God showed me how you see
humanity and in that I mean that's
there's layers and layers and layers of
a spiritual encounter of when God opens
up your eyes cuz that's what he thats
what the Bible and all this stuff is
about is about look tell them I love
them how do you learn that for first you
learn by reading the scriptures but you
know cuz there's a supernatural
transference of God's love which is the
Holy Spirit and we have his compassion
for the world we have his empathy for
the dying for the lost for the drug and
we feel how he feels for those who are
dying and literally it's a transference
so we'd be able to feel that as well
like what Gil is saying is if you're
into your assignment you might have a
hundred two hundred year mandate sure
you know that it will take that long so
I guess if you're into that and you know
that you know it's all part of the plan
I guess you know that would make it so
much easier I think what we are touching
on about going to having the heavenly
perspective is is absolutely critical
because my wife and I are having this
conversation just two days ago that you
know when I look from an earthly
perspective you know I have limited
blessings limited resources and there
are certain things that I would say you
know I'll never get over those things
right I mean certain pain certain hurts
that from a physical human perspective
we may have said we'll never get over
that hurt of that whatever and it
requires us to go into the heavens and
if we look at Ephesians 1 right it says
that every spiritual blessing has been
given to us in the heavenlies so in
order to get those we need to go into
the heavenlies dan we're transitioning
out of the belief that well we used to
we we had to die to go get those right
because that's the only way we could go
to heaven now we're realizing as sons
and because of what Jesus did we have
full access now and
so I've got to go get the heavenly
perspective which then just it saturates
our life with with life and regeneration
so that suddenly not only healing and
those things become possible but now
eternal life physical becomes possible
as well whereas before from an earthly
perspective there is no chance
whatsoever but yeah it makes those
things possible and like you're saying
Gila it it changes our whole premise and
perspective and we all have different
assignments and things that will go
after yeah so true because the scripture
says that eternal life is to know Yeshua
period and so already eternal beings and
it's it's that mind shift as we pursue
this the heavenly Rome becomes more real
to us than this earthly realm in money
and through the ages however long you
know we get to know the great cloud of
witnesses and they're not dying and so
we have all of these friends and
companions and angels and you know the
whole family in heaven to participate in
our assignment in the earth and so I
it's a joy that I look forward to this
life and to not choose that death yeah
it is so important for us to learn you
know the language that Mike Parsons uses
is that we deconstruct our earthly and
our natural perspective that we
deconstruct that because you know for
years I've used the term you know life
is a character-building experience and
when we have a heavenly perspective we
can look at every instance that comes
our way even death and even some of the
most tragic things that come our way
that we can look at it you know from a
heavenly perspective and understand this
is something I am called to go through
in order to grow and to go to the next
stage but that it's it's all part of my
growth in becoming a mature son again
like this is what I do on the podcast I
ask questions even if I don't believe it
so don't let me present this question
and think that I agree or believe with
this but what if there's a lot of water
this is how we do
you know gate engaged conversation right
and shout-out to Chris garner cuz I was
just thinking about this song he posted
we are eternal and all that alone is an
illusion that song is amazing that song
is so powerful
hey Derrick you broke up you just
mentioned the guy's name and you broke
up there so start from there and keep
going okay yeah Chris Gardner says we
are eternal all this pain is an illusion
it's a song by tool which is a whole the
song is about us being etheric spirit
beings and like choosing to come to
earth and have this encounter and kind
of sign on for this earth is almost like
a like a training ground or a teaching
place to see where we will spend
eternity or whatever but the question I
wanted to pose on this eternal life and
I'm just gonna say this cross the board
I don't really believe in and in this
the way the New Age teaches it and I
really think it's dangerous the way they
teach it and I'm gonna show I have a I'm
working on a teaching to show you the
dangers of it but it is the subject of
reincarnation so some people may see
what we're talking about this eternal
life or you know not your soul not being
destroyed would be like uh um saying
your body is gonna wither your body
returns to the earth but the spirit or
soul gets to come back through another
person I don't necessarily believe that
there's some interesting scriptures
about the spirit of Elijah has come and
and and they were looking for it so
there was this belief that they believed
in something familiar maybe that was
only a couple of the super prophets or
something like that that they believe
happened or if everyone reincarnated
there's a lot of problems there's a lot
of dangers in teaching reincarnation but
let me just throw that out there to you
guys what if this eternal life was the
fact that you either reincarnate as
another person which I don't like that
I'm more into the tune of you get to
come back and teach and you get to be
like Moses and Elijah and meeting and
training and meeting with the believers
maybe that makes more sense but let me
just throw that out there and so before
anybody else answers that I just want to
throw out to that again this is one of
those questions that in the past as
Christians in the box would it just
Oliver
walls would have gone up and we would
have just said absolutely no way so I
just want to say let heaven begin to
reveal to you what is the truth and I
don't have an answer on this I I've got
thoughts but I don't have the what are
you let's do well you know I do also
have some thoughts on it this is where
I'm at you guys because before we came
on the air we kind of discussed you know
what are we gonna talk about on all this
stuff and this is where I stand I know
for some of us some people that I've
never heard these things they're in
shock like teachings like what Ian does
or you know all the other people the
forerunners out there aren't shocked but
this is what I always say listen you may
not even have a grid for what you hear
however if it gets you closer to the
Lord Jesus Christ if it gets you closer
to understand that there is another
level to build relationship with the
father if it gets you closer to
understanding what your identity and
your authority is it is not a demon it
is not the devil teaching you so Tolkien
if whatever you hear it keeps you
comfortable makes you breathe easier and
says okay yes I heard my pastor say that
my grandfather said that however if it
didn't eyes the fullness of the
sacrifice and the victory that Jesus did
for you and for me to walk in and
through the cross into the fullness that
I'm telling you is the doctors of
defense undercover with the skirt of
religion so just about being shackled by
comfort so if you're hearing messages
that just fit you in your place and keep
you still okay I'm good I'm good I agree
yeah
truth is a being okay and then come the
truth is a being and it literally
reflects the facets multi-facet and
colors and frequencies of the heart of
God so the mandate if you will of truth
is to always reveal and unfold the
things that the father has that are
found in us
there are mysteries that were held for
generations and ages so if reincarnation
is part of that you know know which
again I have some thought on it and the
Lord is so speaking to me about that I
just it listen anything you hear if it
brings you closer to the Lord I don't
believe it's from the devil I believe
its own God and I know this is very cool
I'm not saying I believe in
reincarnation at all but I'm saying we
need to allow truth that comes out of
the heart to guide us and I mean a level
of true that I'm walking in today is not
maybe what I had in yesterday
because the purpose of truth we will
never deny itself but the purpose of
truth is to always unfold and reveal the
next level that I'm ready to go on with
the father exactly so if reincarnation
is party I don't know but what I'm
saying is I'm learning that God is
continually unveiling and unfolding
truth and if me closer to the Lord Jesus
Christ a relationship it is not from the
devil so but I do have some thoughts
that but I'm not sure but it's a good
question
well go ahead well I was just gonna say
because in the third series we're
actually teaching this very thing and I
wanted to go to Adina and because I know
a TV you've got some thoughts on this
too but Derek if you if you wanted to
jump in no I want to I'll say this so
like and a lot of the groups that we run
in and I've trust me like the some of
the counseling and one-on-one sessions
that I've done with people have been
coming out of cults and I've come out of
them were these people use the Bible to
teach reincarnation but you'll find out
that the we need to talk about these
coasts and make sure that they're
healthy cults or they're healthy
ekklesia is right because in a lot of
these places someone has the revelation
that Derek is King David reincarnated
and we need to come to Derek to hear
what King David has to say so a lot of
these people will point in there's ways
to identify this I'm gonna do a teaching
on it but they always point to
themselves yeah
God the Holy Spirit is not going to
point you to a man it's not going to
exalt the teachings of men is gonna
exalt King Jesus or high and lifted up
and he alone he's judged that
jealous God he wants his glory but there
are pockets of people and I've been
dealing with them for years I've ran
into groups of people there's 12 guys
they claim to be all the 12 disciples
reincarnated and they are here to
establish the kingdom on the earth and
they have a huge following there's one
guy in Florida who claims to be Jesus
come back that's another guy who claims
to be the Apostle Paul and like people
they're good because they bring
something different they are good at
tickling the ears of the people and we
have some things that may tickle the
ears if we're not careful out-of-body
travel ascension revelations from God
that for the person who's just looking
for something new thinking like oh so we
have that we're pointing them back to
Jesus and not to sign up for our
ministry or we are the ones we have to
address this because I'm telling you
I've dealt with them and I'm dealing
with people and even after my sessions
with them part of them is still hanging
on
because that guy blew their mind with
truths about the energy and vibration
and sound in resonance and I can travel
and I can summon angels instantly to
show up in this room and they have weird
power the Bible says that the Antichrist
will be able to call down fire from
heaven at will and these people can blow
your mind but they're leading you to
some weird far-out heretical truth that
exalts man over Christ and we got to
make sure that the main thing praise You
Lord is the main thing oh right on I do
have to say though you do remind me of
King David for some reason you know
we're the reincarnation like you know I
really messed this life up and I have to
come back as a spider I think that is
totally off it distorts the image of God
and as Karina talked about you know what
Yeshua did for us and then you know I
think when we begin to understand the
great cloud of witnesses and all of that
it's like each one is so unique and
beautiful and we are eternal beings so
what would be the purpose of
reincarnation and so I
I would take a little different stand up
at the same time I would say God can do
whatever he wants to do but I love the
value and the uniqueness that God puts
in each person that no two snowflakes
are alike and so why would there be this
issue of having to and so it to me
reincarnation is a little bit of a
twisting of the great cloud of witnesses
because the Bible talks about you know
we're connected with you know they're
not made perfect apart from us and it's
this beautiful tapestry woven together
but you know if it's this reincarnation
well we didn't get it right so we have
to come back and we have to be another
color this time or something you know I
don't know it doesn't I don't want to
come back I don't want to have a
different family and different friends
like I want to be with you guys like you
know our family I don't want to like you
know and I believe that that's something
that Jesus threw him through everlasting
life gives us that we have this security
that on the other side we will know each
other and I mean I don't want to keep
doing this over and over and and you
know this is um we have to talk about I
know it sounds crazy for people are new
to this but there's people listening who
I mean the these teachings that we're
talking about and we're privy to like
people are taking little pieces and
running with it you know what I'm saying
and they're and they're trying to build
ministries and they're trying to build
followers and now because in this life
there nobody they may have been a drug
addict they may have been something and
you know and they always wanted to be
somebody
but the the whole thing with this
reincarnation whether you're Edgar Cayce
reincarnated or your King David
reincarnated it's an instant validation
you have to listen to me because I'm
Elijah and yeah and they'll pull people
to the side say you know I never told
nobody this you know because nobody can
handle it but you can handle it
really Elijah and like I've shown you
signs and wonders you're like yeah you
show me in the scripture now like in
there they have this may we have to be
careful dealing with these cults man and
we gotta bring truth because I always
want we want to be careful but we never
want to stifle exploration so there's
like two handed compliment almost you
know and I think it's great
go ahead Martin saying as a Dean
I think with reincarnation right I mean
no it's not that constant cycle to get
to Nirvana right where you constantly
learn and I think even in the word where
it talks about you know coming as spirit
of Elijah
it's the mantle of Elijah it's not the
reincarnation you know Derek it's not
reincarnated David that hey let's go
listen to David through you know Derek
it's the answer there but what we do see
several times through scripture is is
eternal life right we see Jesus being
with OSes and Elijah who also
represented the law and the prophets as
well but we the word does talk about the
cloud of witnesses but that's not a
reincarnation that's not a changing of
people right it might be a changing of
our flesh or a Transfiguration into
glorified bodies but there's a there
some of the concepts I think do resonate
but not at the core of it and I think
they're you point out perfectly that
most of those people are pointing back
to themselves for value you always see
that man always absolutely and one of
the guys in Derek you and I talked about
on interview that you know the guy that
you were in a group yeah yeah and he
said he was Elijah and and I even had an
extremely powerful vision as you and I
talked about I'm still wrestling with
because it seemed to confirm this guy
before he even told me and but it always
pointed back to him and it had some
jacked-up theology which was that he was
just simply an alien you know et on a
spaceship waiting for a brother or
something - yeah and not God eternal not
the the Jesus that we know of the Bible
and so it always points to something
different either themselves or something
different than God eternal God the
Father creator of the universe you know
I I want to just say that I'm in total
agreement with you guys I I have for
myself had to learn to adapt because I
was so closed-minded you know several
years
to anything that was not mine you know
the that fit in my grid that I would not
accept it and so I've had to shift you
know this is for me again but I've had
this shift to a place where you know
I've said this before I don't want to
say that I have the end result and the
the final word on anything you know so
whether it's reincarnation or whether
it's uh you know being on the Galactic
Council or you know whatever it might be
I am I just want to say that you know
for myself I'm I hold everything loosely
you know yeah and I leave at least a
tiny bit of room because if I don't
leave a tiny bit of room baby then I
become unteachable and so if I were
wrong in where I was standing what what
I thought was right then there'd be no
room for me to move or to budge and I
think that's really scary for a lot of
people but I also think it's part of the
maturing process that were able to have
that room because the other thing is if
we don't have that a little bit of room
when someone does come to me with a
totally different you know idea you know
that's totally against what I believe
right and I'm gonna show them off
immediately versus being willing to
listen to see if I can see some truth it
doesn't mean I have to agree with them
but to at least respect them enough to
take a look and not just shut them down
because I know it all Jim David if you
come to me with all my friends with King
David I'm shutting you down as a person
not if you can if his apparition appears
and we meet with him that's another
story but as far as you being King David
in the flesh I got problems with that
like we have to draw the line somewhere
because if not we'll see things will get
a check in our spirit but you like
because I have to be honest cuz it's
like well if I check them then they'll
check me on my weird stuff or you know
what I'm saying and so we have to like
have some type of foundation or a
backbone to where there's a plumb line
right maybe there's three plumb lines
that are good for us to live by rather
there's a type of standard where we got
to check ourselves to make sure that
we're in the face to
there yes oh my goodness presents true
wizard is never late as I'm sorry
his phone turn on and I've also locked
out of my office this is great five
minutes guys I'm so sorry
Oh crazy the things that are happening
here last 24 hours are ridiculous
there's something going on it must be
this show energy coming together
carnation Michael who are you Elijah I
might be David those are the two that
everybody he was going through there's
something to that came from a zulan I've
lived with Buddhists certain Daoists and
Shintoists and atheists and communists
and they've all got some kind of weird
trip like that so you know mm-hmm we're
here in Hawaii and it's it's a different
ball game here and it's been amazing
what God has done here doing mission
work in different countries and now I
believe that what's happening with this
team of people with all of you
broadcasters and spirit-filled people
that this is it's unheard of in the body
to have people like humble enough to
kind of allow others the platform to go
into work and my grandfather John
fashion did the same thing with Don
Derek Prince and urn Baxter and it's a
very powerful thing I think the enemy is
afraid of this definitely because you
know everybody has their own ministry or
some prophecy or some amazing aura and
mantle and but you don't what's gonna
draw the world
to the kingdom is this humility not just
like look at me I'm so spiritual but
like wow like you've got spirit centered
business you've got truth seeker you've
got Kingdom talks and more green mark
anyway I don't want to take you guys I'm
I'm out here on the street I'm locked
out of my office I'm just going when you
can't Michael that's good man that's
kind of interesting with the whole
reincarnation button and Michael brought
it up is that you're always looking to
your past life you're still looking to
yourself understand what it is and it
takes you away from the father it takes
you that's good really going to the
father asking the father and and
ultimately I'd say it takes us away from
the relationship with the father which
is really what a lot of this is about is
that intimacy and relationships just
what Jesus died and rose again he
allowed for that the Gateway to have
that intimacy and he is the Gateway have
that direct intimacy without a priest
without a mediator that we can now go
direct to the Father and that changes
everything versus trying to learn from
our past or ancient masters or any of
those things we can get good info but
nothing like we can going straight to
the Father yeah and you know I love what
you guys are saying because for me every
time I teach her I speak or I talk you
know just one-on-one with people the
problem that we have in this new era
this new age that the Lord has brought
us in where we're talking about these
amazing things that before were taboo
this is the thing that I always say we
need to make sure that we let people
know that this is not formulas there is
no
specifically there's no you know magic
words
it's relationship because anything you
hear being taught if it does it's simple
for me it's simple anything I hear or I
encounter or revelation that does not
take me into the heart of God to build
relationship with him I will lay to the
side and at the same token like Gil like
you were saying you wanna for me I want
to hold everything loosely because I do
I want to make sure that when revelation
comes in truth I don't you know I'm not
like no that's not God but in that the
plumb line is very simple and strong
thus it built a deeper relationship with
God does appoint me back to Jesus if it
tells me that Jesus is not the only way
then that's my plumb line I'm out of
here because then no longer is that
Christianity universalism and now you
know I that's not like it's for me is
very simple God has all these mysteries
that he's unbelling it's a season of
mysteries you know that truth is
bringing in revelations bringing but the
plumb line is simple is it getting me
closer to walk with Jesus because he's
the only game for me do you know what
were the three things because I can't
remember them what that was one of them
that we were sharing that we need to you
know that it's really important that the
number one does it make your God bigger
mm-hmm does it bring you closer to him
and what wasn't there a third one that
we were there was okay so I mean I'm in
good company with my wife because she I
think that goes back to your identity
too
you know because yeah you are we're made
for a purpose and to reincarnate into
something else you know that takes away
from who you who you are who you are
created to be to and shine a light on
others yes I mean if the cloud of
witnesses are those who took on before
us who were not complete and are still
there in the cloud of witnesses and
haven't been reincarnated to come down
here to do their part to finish whatever
it was there to finish that would be a
pretty good indicator for me anyway
that the reincarnation model isn't
really something father uses right well
some people believe that they you know
would reincarnate like the New Age would
say you come back as another person
until they get it right like they have
to keep taking these tests over and over
over and then they reach godhood as some
would say or that they are able to take
their rightful place in the great cloud
of witnesses to become teachers they
still have to deal with their stuff and
then I don't know I think you do that in
this life see that's the thing it does
the responsibility away you got to do it
now now is the time today is the day
like don't wait till you die there's so
much there's so many holes in it the
suicide comes into play I feel like
that's a spirit there that okay I've got
it wrong this time let me try again
let me try and I know people who have
struggled with that spirit because they
believe in reincarnation and it becomes
an option like suicide becomes an option
because they believe they get another
chance at this thing but no we have to
get it right this life and make sure
that we get to do it now so it's doing a
responsibility you know off of us and
and what god acquires of us you know I
think the focus too is on me me me me me
getting it right instead of the biblical
models I see in Hebrews 11 where it says
they're not made perfect apart from us
is this whole synergy of togetherness
and and that's really a mark of the next
age is it not about me my ministry what
I'm going to do but it's like the only
way we're going to do what we need to do
on earth
is joining together in relationship not
just with a father but with one another
and so in that it's not just about me me
me achieving godhood but it's how do we
work together now you know and in this
in this next age and whether we're cloud
of witnesses are here it's that the the
church in heaven and on earth is one
right yeah and so it's together we're
accomplishing God's mission mm-hmm
that's an important mark of this next
stage and and you know we
we went live we were talking about what
are the parts of the next stage or even
of the transition that have still yet to
drop off but we still have to move into
them you know I know people who are
stepping their toe into the area where
we've been for a couple years and you
know and then there's people who have
been way before us right so but there's
this transition age so what's part of
the transition and then what's part of
the next stage if we could even you know
imagine that we would know some sort of
a revelation what would that look like
you know I'm gonna sign off real quick
here I've got to get ready for a
medieval banquet well we are coming up
on the hour and I know I think at least
one or two others need to take off do we
want to continue or do we want to go
ahead and wrap it up here guys I just
asked the question you can't just leave
me up here I think really long to
continue yeah I'm good to keep going
long because anybody else's long time
ago it's alright for crying out loud
you need to be taken up is that correct
yeah I need to be going do you have any
final words before you head out just
encourage people you know if if if
you're in a place where you're like okay
I know that even what the Bible says I'm
not doing it if you find yourself in a
place of frustration and you're looking
at the word and you're you're looking at
your situation you're looking at the
abilities that in your human flesh you
know that you're walking in I just want
to encourage you seek after the heart of
God because everything every absolutely
every treasure every mystery every
blueprint every key every dimension is
found in and through the
of God and once we focus on relationship
you know it's we gotta go past the the
hearing the voice even holding his head
even seeing his face but actually hear
the invitation that God is calling us to
step into his heart yeah
whosoever choose as many are called but
few are chosen and the choice is not
because God is saying you know I like
you better or I like your purple hair or
no the choice is your choice chooses you
your choice chooses you to walk in the
fullness that Jesus gave to you and to
me through the Covenant of adoption and
I encourage you let the frustration
catapult you into relationship into the
heart of the Father and say you know
what I'm gonna lay down what I've been
taught I'm gonna lay down what my mother
my pastor my father said to me and I
just want you Father I want you in the
fullness of what you've told me that I
can walk in yeah not when you die so
that's my you know I just encourage you
go after relationship go after his heart
and I'm telling you when you attain it
that's why David was a man after God's
own heart because he actually he was
people shooted so much until he walked
in it that's why he lived out of the
timeline of God found in his heart so go
after the Lord thank you guys it was so
nice to meet every one of you so just go
ahead so I was just gonna say Gil so
you've just this morning I had a guy
call me on the phone and you know he had
heard about the Penguins and this and
that and his he's like man I've been
operating in the prophetic and I really
want to grow and stretch my prophetic
gifting and I heard basically it's kinda
like maybe I can come hang out with you
guys for a bit you know and as just
talking with a mouth like little you
know God was kind of given some word of
knowledge I said well here's what's
funny is your board with the prophetic
right now and you say yeah I guess I am
and he's you know but a years ago before
he was really operating in the prophetic
I said you know you used to look at
where you are now and think if I could
only get
there then everything would be fantastic
and so really just sharing with me I
said honestly I'm not we don't we're not
gonna focus on the prophetic the
prophetic happens but it flows out of
intimacy and identity with Christ and I
think part of my opinion the New Age the
next stage not new ages we say the next
stage you know as we really transform
it's even less on my giftings and those
types of things that's more or less on
performance from an acceptance
perspective and it's on we're flowing
from identity in Christ who defines
everything about us our our stuff and
ministries and giftings don't define us
but he defined this and we flow out of
that which means we can do everything
and and I told them I said the funny
thing is the people that want to come to
our group and I'm probably every one of
your groups that want to come in and be
the show and be like the Prophet or
whatever they don't last very long they
end up leaving because they figure out
they're not very special here because
were everybody can do everything and
different degrees that's a great point
because some people get their identity
in their gifts like some people I'm a
seer and so everything I'm a seer and so
all of us are seers then they're no
longer especially your address and
that's and that's where I started I was
a been a seer my whole life and when we
first started penguins it was like what
Kareena started was talking about that
we wanted the presence of God and you
know I was the resident seer the other
guy one and that guy was a prophet and
you know then one of the fifth guys
couldn't do anything right and so he was
complaining that he wished he could see
as clearly as I do you know of course in
my arm like oh you will you will but I'm
like yeah that's me that's my identity
right and next week we come in and I
can't see Jack and the guy that office
eyes couldn't prophesy and the guy that
couldn't see anything is seeing more
clearly than I ever have in my entire
life and I was upset I was mad because
that was my role then we get there the
next week and God just shifts again and
he was just teaching us I did
in Christ and not in the stuff and the
gifting so I think that's a huge piece
of the next age which is what I see with
this group is that it allows us to
promote each other and lift each other
up because we're not jealous for what
somebody else has gifting wise or
whatever that looks like we can actually
lift one another up with the Spirit of
Truth and it's I think that's a huge
piece of that is that community it's not
it's not socialism right it is truly
lifting one another up and as we do that
together as a whole and as a community
then everyone actually wins and it's I
think that's a huge piece of the next
stage is identity and then operating
from intimacy with the father and I kind
of want to just speak to the promoting
one another idea because it almost
sounds like you know where we're trying
to promote you know the ministry and I
really believe that each one of us that
in our heart what we're wanting to
promote is the message that the father's
put in us you know because he's given us
a blueprint you know this idea that
everybody's a leader and that everybody
needs to go through leadership training
and all this stuff it's like no that's
not the body you know you don't have it
you know that the body can't just be a
head but at the same time we you know
there are also I'm actually losing
losing my point here the the thing that
we we really want to stay focused on is
what is the message that the father has
given us and that we all kind of stay in
our lane and humbly step into the body
and do our part and there you know I
think well I know for me for myself that
it's very true that father you know I
keep asking looks like God why did you
choose me to do this message of love
unconditional love because aside from
being in him
I really suck at it seriously well that
that's what to see but that's the thing
that's what qualifies you go that's the
only thing that qualifies you is that
you suck at if he was really good and
then he would pick over you and get
someone else saying that it
really no no I'm saying it cuz I asked
ripp sure that the Lord gave me when
we're talking about exalting men because
we have to be careful because we have a
we've created a Christianity that
creates celebrities and creates these
these guys on these pedestals what we
want to like these are the go-to guys
when when really the focus is the
ecclesia which is us we want to summon a
spirit we want to summon angels that's a
great way to do it if we all come
together and we pray the Bible says
there he is in the midst of us we come
together not let's go see go see true
seeker because he's a got a great way of
summoning Jesus's presence in a room
whatever that's cool but when we come
together collectively and bring our
sacrifices to the altar or things that
were dear sacrifice of praise even and
come together in foreign we literally
are Christ reincarnated on the earth we
are the body of Christ on the earth as
we come together right we're like Ultron
or whatever the case is so there's that
but going back is first Corinthians 1:29
because it's like you can you can do all
the study and all the learning and go to
the College and Seminary and all of
these things and you can be the right
candidate for it you got all the head
knowledge but you don't have the
anointing you can have a talent and and
be really well versed with words what
Paul says look I don't come with the
wisdom wisdom intelligence of words
power half at a time if I can't even
formulate sentences you know what I'm
saying so but he says but he says I come
with power in a demonstration not the
wisdom of words but of power and the
demonstration of the Holy Ghost which
goes back again first Corinthians 1:29
is the key but he goes through just like
showing the disciples in saying why God
doesn't pick the people who the world
would pick like I would I wouldn't pick
me I wouldn't pick you guys there's
other people who have a bigger following
bigger platforms there they got a bigger
email list I would pick those people to
partner with or whatever the case is
right like in the wisdom of the world
there's reasons to pick over us but God
sees the
gyms within us and say you know what I'm
getting them ready for such a time as
this
because why first Corinthians 1:29 and
he's given all these reasons why he's
not picking those who were well trained
or those who were the best at it
he's picking those who suck at it
because he doesn't want any flesh to
glory in his presence yeah and that's
what we get when we start pointing at
men
oh-hoh true seeker or Gil oh whoever the
the Todd white I'm getting ready to go
to a conference next week who is like a
roster of all-star Christian celebrities
and they're all anointed but they're
like like it's you know we're not what
we're supposed to be but I want to just
I'll just read this really quick it's
really good
first Corinthians 1:26 I'll start I'll
start there it says before you see your
calling not my calling not if you see
your calling brethren that not many wise
according to the flesh now we need
people who are wise in the spirit but it
says not many wise who are according to
the flesh not many mighty not many noble
are called
but God has chosen the foolish things of
the world to put to shame the wise I
want to I want some fools some fools for
me he knows his calling the beginning
says for you see your calling you know
it and God has chosen the weak things of
the world to put this shame the things
which are mighty and the base things of
the world and the things which are
despised God has chosen this is how he
works guys God has chosen and the things
which are not to bring to nothing that
things that are this is King King James
but um and it says the reason it 1:29
says that no flesh should glory in his
presence but of him really think about
that that's powerful you are in Christ
Jesus who became for us the wisdom of
God and righteousness and sanctification
and redemption that as it is written he
who glories let him glory in the Lord
amen of all the glory and honor back to
him what was me if I preach not the
gospel
I love angels I love aliens I love you
guys know I love all types of things
right but woe is me if I preach not the
gospel and if the emphasis has to always
be on Jesus this is for us like that to
make sure we're in the tree of life like
this
Jesus is the tree of life right to make
sure that we're in him and he has a way
of putting these people together who you
can't do it on your own that's why there
would be nobody you know and people have
gotten really good or at least fooling
people that they can do it on their own
but to really come together in the
spirit of unity is where Jesus is in the
midst of rebuke exhortation discernment
moving into prophetic giftings and
prophetic abilities it's not to exalt
men we are men and people want to exalt
us all the time and we have to we have
to like always point point to Christ and
and we have to be able to see that we
can see it like you know I can see it
not everybody can there's people who are
new to this that we can whisk them away
in some weird truth and they're gone and
the scripture says that it's better for
you to tie a great millstone around your
neck and jump into the sea and then to
cause any of these little ones to
stumble so go to any of you out there
who are causing the little ones to
stumble even ourselves man it's the it's
the intentions now if we're into some
truth and we're just we're off a little
bit nobody has it all figured out that's
why we're coming together to figure this
stuff out and teach it point back to
Jesus but it's the intentions of the
heart because there's people out there
who were intentionally weaving these
webs for these people and I am just as
I'm telling the burden that God has for
us and Jesus has to put God put within
Jesus for his sheep that he's willing to
leave the 99 to go after the one we the
he's giving us that as well for the
people in our midst and the people who
have been looked over at people who's
been deceived and stuff and I don't want
it I'm passionate about this you know
because it's happening like we have
people we've opened up truths right and
I and and really even some people in
chat who I loved
really who were showing me different
ministers that they're listening to you
know and I'm like hold on no hold on and
if if my teachings have opened up a
realm to think that that's okay let me
nip that in the bud yeah yeah it's
important for us to as we're going
through this transition and we're and
we're pulling people out of the old age
the Pisces agent into the Aquarius of
the next stage that our language doesn't
frighten them from anything else like if
we say words like someone was using the
word shaman I'm I just don't use the
word shaman because that will put the
brakes on whoever we're talking to to
explore and actually be able to track
with us and make that journey that we
did whenever when we started right now I
would have never followed someone who
said the word shaman a few years ago you
know my god but we have to have
discernment as far as where they are so
that we don't trip them up with our
language even though we're so excited
but think it's like you're just off the
chart you're a flat earther whatever
yeah well it's like Derek was saying
earlier that we really have to be
careful that we're not just appeasing
you know to those who are looking for
the tickling of the years yeah and
that's why even when I've seen things in
some of the you know journeys that we've
been on that are out of the ordinary
I'm really wait you know if the father
keeps pointing to that you know pointing
to that picture pointing to whatever it
is I'm seeing then I will share it but I
am reluctant to share things that are a
little out of the box oh you know we're
already out of the box but
reluctant to share things because I
don't want people to say oh so we've got
the new next best thing and so let's go
with this yeah yeah but we also need to
speak the truth well that's the way I've
kind of branded what I've been doing is
system bench so outside of the box and
outside of the church that I've really
you know been able to use those terms
and see what okay what do they mean and
stuff so it's even weirder for me
because I'm in those realms viewing
shamans and relating it back to the
scripture okay where does the shaman
field in Scripture maybe it's a
different word right these types of put
myself out there so there is the chance
you're leading people into shamanism or
you're leading people into they may do a
google search how to do shamanism
because true seeker said it or whatever
and they're breaking that blow their
buddy oh that could be some danger it's
that discernment like where are people
currently and have the conversation so
dare where those people are is different
than my audience and spirits enter
business or our audience and Kingdom
talks right in my back guys so again
like you know we've talked about this
many times is the fact that even though
that that stuff may open up doors for
people to explore maybe get lost in and
I believe wholeheartedly that there's
other ministers out there even some of
the ones who are just more cut-and-dry
some of the bigger names may be reformed
theology who like if you fall into their
work you you're gonna get lost as well
and go down some weird paths or shutting
or even like quenching the Holy Spirit
or the Holy Spirit doesn't operate like
that anymore the New Age does New Age is
fine and well of spiritual giftings and
abilities but as far as it's a cross in
Christ we don't have access to that as
people who believe that you know so we
it kind of works both ways you know hey
Michael the thing is really important
because I mean I don't know the patience
to interview a bunch of shaman
high level of the very highly venerated
Buddhist master lady in Taiwan for a few
hours and I mean she people just
worshipping her and only me like oh
she's the reincarnated and whatever and
this and that and it was like okay well
let's sushi Scott so he sat down and and
they were interested because I'd had
experiences meeting ghosts and talking
of things and experience supernatural
experiences because they're not used to
Christians who would pray for the dead
and I was like I was in the children of
God friend we were trained to like hey
you go jogging through a graveyard
pray for them maybe they'll know they
need Jesus and maybe in Asia they there
are a lot of ghosts that need to know
Jesus so but the thing that I found with
her was just everything else she was
talking about was great she understood
of Illuminati stuff she understood a lot
of problems in corruption in the world
the one thing I noticed that she didn't
understand salvation like she was
telling her people this congregation of
thousands and thousands of very humble
and devoted Buddhists they were and I
got to talk to them too about the fringe
radio network it was really funny but
she was just teaching them works it was
like how to get out of the wheel of
Buddha which turns turns turns you must
do good things and we must you know give
them food sacrifice to the idols and it
was like really like this is just
another Catholic thing like it was kind
of it was kind of a letdown
to be honest although I don't doubt that
a lot of that stuff is true you know
giving food to people in another
dimension like kind of like stranger
things chi waan everywhere you go there
is food on the streets or the ghosts
during those months feel that stuff like
a suit you're walking through this like
really weird like oh this it's not a
very good clean scene like it's like
doing like really bad kind of drugs I've
never done drugs but
so it's just the spirits so clean and I
stood here last night one of the reasons
I was late you're up really late last
night praying with each other the guard
here is an army guy he's a Christian
another Christian guy we met we're like
we need to watch out for each other here
in Waikiki it's like Aleister Crowley
witnessed craft bill it's it's a city of
total darkness and us Christians were
finding each other and it's just like
let's hold hands let's pray for each
other let's start something so I'm gonna
probably interview this guy is it's
gonna be a some kind of a street
brothers watching out for each other all
you are not alone
Church or Street Church or something
awesome so add another networker to the
list here I'll post the show - I'll post
the thing - the next day juice or tube
into the price consciousness but I mean
I don't know all the answers to the
stuff I don't know if you could be
reincarnated jesus said that Elijah was
John the Baptist but it was kind of like
a it was not something that everybody
needed to believe I don't think it's
that important to know it here but I
still think he had his own identity it's
like you could have an angel he was so
close to you that at times maybe you
would confuse your identity with that
angel burger faint or something well
that's a familiar smell apparently
Peter's angel was so close to him that
they missed didn't they Peter for the
angels so you know yeah the angel of
someone's presence yeah
Jerry Lee manifest Reata pretty guru guy
blesses bless his soul in this ministry
he talked about the angel of the
presence they saw Peter's angel that was
something that the Hebrews understood as
a normal thing do you guys remember Todd
Bentley's Angels Oh with the Florida
revival and he has he has tattoos of his
angels he's green a green I want to say
her name was
I'm not sure but you can google it and
there's PS tattoo of this green woman
that would appear to him and he got it
tattooed on him and that was before he
were you want to save fell into sin or
whatever and left his wife for the new
lady and when he was at the height of
the Florida revival they would just it
turned into angel meetings where he
would you know kind of guide everybody
of what they'd seen these angels doing
and everybody would just come and
witness angels and stuff like that and
in the spirit though I don't think any
there was any physical manifestations
yeah
have y'all ever seen that Google it if
you've never seen it the angel yeah I
was there for his for that don't I think
there you bring up an interesting piece
and I mean we may all have different
opinions on this but I think you know
while we can partner with angels we can
work with angels obviously we don't
worship angels I think even in in like
something like a todd Bentley and I
don't know if I'm speculating but you
know if you get off to where you go down
an angel rabbit hole to where your focus
becomes on meeting with the Angels
versus the father
yeah and I think we we are in I think
there's a risk there right that that it
steers us it steers us slightly off and
so for focus remains and the father and
remains on him then our partnership with
angels is is probably more correct in
that space of it but I think there's
always that challenge it's like anything
with prophecy or healing or whatever if
our focus becomes prophecy or healing I
mean we've we've seen guys that are
extremely prophetic but they are jerks I
mean they're not good fun people to be
with and they can be very manipulative a
operate in that gifting incredibly well
but they don't carry really the heart of
the father of that intimacy and I think
that's yeah you know I think that's what
we might I think we're
seeing more and more that as next age
next Agers and and that gets us heard in
it's nice things still flow what
happened but the focus is always on that
intimacy with the father I I would not
disagree with what you just said I would
just add that part of my experience in
in my experiences in the heavens and I
think Chris Carter would say this if he
were here as well but that what's that
[Laughter]
go ahead good so that's what was one of
them I mean he had many yeah you got
attached yeah okay okay so what I was
gonna say is that in my experience the
Angels will point you to God yeah you
know in fact if you're having if you're
focused on them too much they'll just
shut up or disappear good point now sure
for sure so I was gonna share something
a little bit differently though because
you know Chris has a beautiful way of
telling the Gospel story and the story
of creation about you know just how the
father poured himself out into all of
creation into the Angels into us that
he's poured himself out into us and that
my experience has been sometimes when
I've gone to speak with the father to
ask him questions that rather than him
saying well let me let me tell you all
the answers he will direct me to an
angel or another being to get that
answer because he's already poured that
answer into them and he I believe the
father thoroughly believes in the body
that we were all one in that he is more
about us engaging with these other
beings that he's already poured this
information into or this relationship
into and that we would wanted
relationships but you're absolutely
right we do not worship them we never do
we step into the worship of them but
we're all about relationships I mean
we're having relationships you know here
in the the Eartha meaning with the all
of us here you know we're developing the
relationship with one another so yeah I
like I said I don't disagree with you I
just think there are times that you know
in the body there's a certain assignment
that an angel or a person may have in
the body and that's why they're there
for that purpose to engage with in that
scenario whatever it might be the
scripture says we see in part we know in
part and I know that's that's a
universal principle for a lot of
different things within Christendom but
I think it goes back to again what I was
saying earlier is that we engaged the
father in the secret place but it
doesn't give you the entire formula
that's not-- there's no faith in that
the God operates off of faith and
without faith it's impossible to please
them so as you get into the the presence
of God and you draw away with him he'll
give you something he'll give you a
piece I'm telling you it's a beautiful
piece anything that you get from the
father is good I don't care if it's a
piece of that coal that touched Isaiah's
lips or whatever anything that the
father gives you that you're able to
take out of that encounter he's going to
continue to reveal it to you in the
waking State there's no vision I mean
even in the scriptures when I'm saying
uh who was a Jacob had the vision
he's like seeing stalks of wheat in fire
and he said well those wheat represent
he had to like seek the Lord okay what
does this mean and might is there gonna
be a crazy harvest coming it has
something to do with the harvest but
those are your brothers and so that you
have to keep seeking him on it we see in
part we know apart he starts off giving
us a peace in the heavens or ascension
or just drawing away to the Father's
heart in prayer like Jesus stayed in
communion but he continues to reveal it
in our waking state oh we go here oh we
go there it opens up doors and someone
comes and then you have email or an
opportunity comes up and God just
continues in the waking state and it's
not like you just go into the dream
state and you get
every everything about your life and you
may get you may get a big piece of
division your piece may be something
really big but still it like practical
faith and walking it out is the test and
prove that you even believe that that
vision was true anyway that you're gonna
walk it out and trust God and that's the
way he does he gives us pieces of the
pieces he gives us we literally are like
bread crumbs here's a piece and you have
to like follow him through the
wilderness or like the Israelites
followed him right keeps me yeah so you
got to keep moving to keep following him
and and I thought works that's more like
cool things about Christians too is we
tend to realize like when we really are
following Jesus is power of humility and
you guys have gifts that I don't have I
have something to share that nobody else
has and none of us in ourselves have the
complete message but from my experience
with angels and dreams and all this I
would just say there's so much that we
don't know and when you have in the
fringe network community there's
definitely a huge debate about whether
or not we're allowed to actually access
them without them coming to us and very
smart people that I respect are like
well we're not allowed to even touch
that because the Bible only has angels
talk to you and you don't talk to them
you don't all of them but I mean that's
the Bible doesn't say not to do it -
it's just we're like literally in 2020
what are we supposed to do with what's
happening out there you know the SRA
stuff and what we're up against I
believe that the angelic is one of the
many new weapons that God has given us
with which to help further the gospel
but of course whether an angel or a
penguin or any entity comes prey to
another gospel you know don't listen to
them but I would say look at Martin look
at Martin Smith you know this guy if
you've been listening to his latest
shows like he has been attacked for his
faith and he's been actually persecuted
for it and that to me is one of the one
of the signs that this is the real deal
like it's not all about a big holy
spirit goosepimple
that you pop women have a revelation
it's more like we talked about language
earlier okay we need to watch our
language so that we do Mendez a
goosebumps but I just looked on the
great thing we should expect persecution
I mean I came for the mission field and
I've seen missionaries gone crazy and
the people with I'm a healer and I went
to a todd Bentley thing I like Todd
white but then there's no true religion
of are you helping the women and the
children are you defending the widow and
the orphan it's like when it comes to
that you find out there you know we
can't forget the basics right gotta have
fun every good man you got to get out
there with the people you can't just I
mean you can't are the internet internet
ministry and blow up or whatever but I
want to see your credentials man I want
to know that you've been in this thing
for a while and you're walking it out
you're not just taking notes and
stepping out and so you have a lot of
people sitting in places of authority or
rulership from behind Facebook
ministries and that kind of thing and
they've never been out there with the
people you know with the drug addicts
with the home assessment and it's going
out there and being one of them get out
of your get out of your studio get out
of your house and get out there with the
people man absolutely do you agree that
you need to get out there with the
people but we're not all called to the
drug street crowd I I know that when I'm
in business meetings and there's so many
spiritual people there those are the
people that I'm supposed to be reaching
yeah you know it's a physical thing yeah
you're getting out there and that's your
calling so it's not you know you're not
just come and sit down and pushing the
live button and just going your act
you're going into the right field the
world yeah that's that's another key to
just recognize
again that we each have our lane that we
each have our part of the body that
we're operating in and that we bless one
another we encourage one another in what
they're called to do and not you know
cuz I know Derek you've been you know
stabbed in the back by the church so
often because you're out there actually
engaging and reaching these people by
engaging with them in relationship not
just going out and saying hey you need
Jesus yeah hop on this bandwagon no it's
not about that it's about developing the
relationship relationship I guarantee
you there's not too many people in the
Christian Church that are willing to do
that and though because they are used to
that they may have stabbed you in the
back rather than encouraging you and
like I'm saying brother keep on going
and keep on going and we are here for
you and you know to help any way we can
in the mission that you've got because
that's one that like I said most
Christians won't touch right I think you
know just listen to some of my partisan
stuff and even the maturity growth you
know every level of maturity as you move
from slave you know slavery mentality
and Christianity to even bonds servant
moving out into sonship or or Co where
everybody that's in a different level of
maturity and revelation is gonna fight
against the next right so even though
we're all in the same house in the same
you know spirit of the Lord that it's
you don't have that revelation yet and
so I think so many in the church if
you're in a more of a bondservant
slavery mentality sonship is so radical
it it is heretic 'el and many ideas but
it's really a maturity level and so i
think that's where we see that and it's
it's helpful for me to kind of
understand that and that know we're also
part of the body they just they're not
at a revelation yet of that freedom and
it's not that I'm better or worse than
them it's just a maturity and in the
spirit and in just that understanding of
the freedom that we really have and that
for me at least it helps me go back and
love them a little
it easier but that's tough I mean it's
you know as I know Derrick knows as well
and I ever probably every one of us on
this on this calls that it's hard to go
back and love and truly love those who
have really persecuted us I mean that's
a that's a maturity in and of itself to
go and to do that and often it is the
church and it is it's the ones who are
closest to us just like we saw with
Jesus it's the ones that are closest to
us that hurt the most
but yeah Jesus calls us to number one go
deeper and identity because I can't
forgive and come back into that without
identity because I'm still upset right
but he is he calls us to go do that hard
in her world when the toughest thing
that I've run into personally that I
that I struggle with is not so much that
I necessarily would get persecuted by
somebody else because you know that
comes out through the internet and stuff
but but like you said the ones that are
close to you or have been close to you
and when my heart is to bless them
encourage them to do what they're called
to do yet they're not able to
reciprocate and you know so that's
actually another level of maturity is
that getting to that place of
understanding that not everybody's at
the same level of maturity when I'm
immature in some areas where others
aren't a lot more mature but but just
that I would be able to bless them even
though they can't bless me and that's
that's part but you know walking this
walk is about anyways we need bless
those who don't bless us I don't I don't
think Jesus's heart changed for Judas
you know what I'm saying and they were
sitting at the dinner table he said look
I love you all but one of you it's a
deceiver and I don't think he was I hate
watch out for Judas let's get him out of
here like that's really like the heart
we try to walk in it gets us in trouble
I got Jesus in a lot of trouble written
heresy yeah
yeah you know I'm saying it gets us in
trouble we got Jesus in a lot of trouble
you know took him to the cross you know
his betrayer but I'm his heart for that
for Judas you know what I'm saying his
heart for his enemies and for those who
are literally in their mitts trying to
over
and trying to do dis wanted his platform
he's seen the money that came with it
and he wanted right you know if we did
with those people all the time man
we had to pray for them and bless them
to our enemies and because coming God
allows them God allowed the Judas thing
to happen that didn't catch God or Jesus
by surprise right they knew that was
there and he knew how to respond with
love nobody will get it you'll get more
family you forsake your family get more
family more wealth but also persecutions
so is getting persecuted that just makes
me trust you more you know and this is
not a quick this is not a commercial for
Hawaii real estate I'm just standing
here know like wisdom to speak up like
I'm just honored that you guys would
keep inviting me on here when I'm like
such a mess but it's like that's another
gift is like to have friends like you
guys and and I think a lot of our
audience is there are people that have
gifts that have miracles and I would
really recommend they chime in and share
them and we're looking for more leaders
it's it's a desperate fight and we need
more warriors and people who will
receive that new revelation or step into
that new thing you know I want it I want
to see what Mike Parsons has and Martin
Smith and Kalina and if Derek suddenly
has this totally crazy out there new
thing or Berlin or Gil or Karen like I
want that
I like Satan you know I just I'm all in
it for the money you guys I want all of
it
I just encourage you that you do have a
lot to share I love the way who are
constantly bringing us back to the Bible
constantly back coming back to reading
the Bible spending that time
giving us other options for research and
listen to this guy and let's read this
you know book or whatever so you do have
a lot to bring to the table and I love
that you do it and I love your
consistency so just that in itself is is
meaningful and it's taking territory so
I I want to honor you too Michael
because I've said this before but you
know this right here what's happening
right now would not be happening if it
weren't for you absolutely it is you
were the one that got got me inspired to
actually start doing some type of talk
show you introduced me to Martin you
introduced me to true Sica you know
Marilyn and Karen and I we wouldn't be
on here right now if it wasn't for you
so God is using you in mighty powerful
ways that you're not even I I don't
think you're tapped into or even
understand what he's doing which might
be good every time I see any of you go
live and I don't even watch it sometimes
I've got a million other things
happening here but it is an honor to be
able to meet great Christian says in the
Bible you know the Saints in the earth
and who are all my delight so it's just
like yes another avenger yes another
warrior everybody as long as as long as
you believe in angels and as long as you
believe in no I'm just kidding I thank
you very much and I think that all of us
need to get together obviously not live
online until well maybe God will show us
that we're supposed to do it but I think
that we we need to go have spiritual
journeys together so that we can start
making those connections together you
know in the heavenlies together and
creating
a reference point for moving forward and
moving the mission on earth that we're
doing here forward from that heavenly
perspective we actually talked about
that Berlin a little bit before before
you actually got on and it was something
I'd like to talk to once we're off
flying again talk about it a little bit
but I would just want to encourage the
the listeners to or Watchers to make
sure that you are with like-minded
people and having those experiences
together because as a necklift sia the
whole point of it is to bring heaven to
earth and the only way you can do that
is to go see what heaven is doing right
and we'll do it here on earth and
understand the strategies for what that
looks like right yeah you know I'm
involved in in several different
Acosta's but we just started one that is
a super like is we call ourselves Delta
Force because we're undercover kind of
stuff and we're not we just have a
mandate that we're not going to talk
about what we do but I can tell you that
even in our training sessions much less
our missions it's amazing I tell you but
I'd have to kill you like the Freemasons
to me but Derek here's the difference is
that when we are allowed to we'll let
you know and then also what we're doing
is going to have impact here on earth
that will be seen and so it's gonna be
like wow we just have to pretend we
don't know even though we just rated it
right yeah so God gets the crash yeah
exactly
right I think that's a great idea and
anybody listening to I would recommend
just take whatever steps
you have like people have that
inspiration we're all artists we all
have different needs of creation and if
you feel your spirit is like mmm I kind
of feel like going here today as long as
it's not sin or evil as long as the
other faiths work go and try it you know
use that workout machine instead of that
one you know if you feel and I'm telling
you like we're all gonna find each other
you know there's a whole laundry list of
people that I have meeting now to travel
in the spirit and they're just normal
people but they love this and we're all
meet each other and it's so exciting
then you'll get dreams that confirm it
like I have some friends including
Martin who it's like I literally had
dreams that confirm things that he just
talked about in his show so there's
other there's gotta be more people out
there that are doing this probably a lot
of them are listening they might not be
out there on the show social media and
we need more we need more recruits you
know and in the second you don't even
have to have a youtube show or whatever
you can just start I want to encourage
you if you're just learning about this
to two ways to get in if you're learning
about it and you want to learn more and
track with moving forward or if you want
to get in a necklace iya group who who
learns together and and activates
together make sure that you go to
ultimate impact movement calm right when
impact movement and get yourself into
that course and get into an idea and
that you know is growing we we kind of
launched that at the beginning of the
year and you know kind of spend a couple
months getting that going but in the
last six months you know we've got now
over 160 people that are that are in
this and it's really growing rapidly as
people are getting into and
understanding what it's doing because it
is teaching the foundation it's for me
necklaces and that's I believe what the
mandate is that we were supposed to be
doing for the last two thousand years is
going into the heavens see what father's
doing bringing it down to clarin into
Korean it into the earth and there's a
there's a lot a lot more to that but
that is the gist of it and we need to
how to do that yeah absolutely
I don't know how you guys get the energy
I get all the notifications of all this
which are doing the emails and I wish to
be a part of it and it's just like man
so I'm so excited you guys that are
watching a link for the ultimate in fax
as listed in the notes here you're so
awesome man you're doing all the stuff
that we can't do I don't know how you
know I I still you know we've talked
about this so I'm just gonna talk about
it out in the open here you know doing a
conference an online conference where
each one of us brings something whether
it's one or two hours and we actually do
a teaching on what we know and what the
father's put on our heart and that we
would do you know it might be a two or
three day conference with breaks like
you would have just at a regular
conference but you know have one to two
hour sessions maybe even bring in some
worship music there I don't know what to
talk about it but would be curious so
anybody who's listening put some
comments and whether it's YouTube or
Facebook letting us know if you'd be
interested you know a couple other
people that aren't on here right now
that would be on there with us would be
Corinna she was on here earlier Chris
Carter he's not able to make it because
of the time right now but and Daniel
loved it was on here as well but that we
would each come on and share some of the
specific things that we're teaching
because almost I believe each and every
one of us have a specific ministry and
or message that the father's given to us
and for us to be able to share that and
again it's not that we're better than
anybody else it's just this is the
mandate that he's given to us to you
know fulfill and put it out there so
thought us know people interested in
that that would be good to know yeah
because if we don't hear anything then
the way there's no reason to waste our
time right cuz yeah putting on a video
summit or an online summit is is a lot
of work and it's a lot of coordination
so yeah if you guys are interested we
are interested in doing it for you but
we don't
later crickets yeah yeah well you know
it's important for us to get the message
out there so people who really need it
and want to hear it so yeah people
already saying that they're interested
people are already saying that they're
interested in the chat the little guy in
the back the little guy do you remember
that extreme we watched that on the
school of the Mystics a couple weeks ago
there was a guy doing an altar call at
the end and they got the music playing
he's like raise your hand I see you I
see you young man in the back I see you
little guy in the back and the cameras
on him but you can't see the people he
says see you little guy in the back and
he's like pauses like he's a little guy
like he's not a [Â __Â ] he's a little guy
like a child he's like well I didn't
want anyone to think I was offending a
[Â __Â ] it was and it got really really
awkward after he said that they got that
back to the spirit moving it was very
hard it's that old foot-and-mouth
disease in the back he's a little guy
he's not a [Â __Â ] let's do a final shout
out of what's going on currently in your
world what do you think Karen hasn't
spoken in a while what's going on
girlfriend that's okay I'll get a word
in sooner anyway on my ground you know
of course we have the band the elastic
army band and I'm gonna start doing a
weekly broadcast with my people
and having them on and probably some
guests because I like to draw the
unknowns and we were just talking about
that today so my fear is just going to
hang you know and so that's where that's
what we're gonna start doing shortly I
did one test run and I see the mechanics
are working yeah it's good
cool anything else I mean you got any
concerts going on no not right now we've
got some a new member and we're trying
to get him you know he's a drummer and
we're trying to get him up to par with
us and learn on music we have 20 songs
I've got some more that are written and
we need to develop those so the
conference in Meridian falls in in
November he is not in my mom I'm gonna
be there be presenting on spirit center
business so it'll be cool
yeah y'all are gonna love Moravian I had
a friend that went there I mean a lot of
Angel activity and stuff and be awesome
oh yeah and you know I'm supposed to go
to Nashville in October for the in
Clayton with Karina and announcer yeah I
was supposed to go that Hey well yes
who's next
Martin sure I think you know for me
right now it's really pushing into more
the you know how to move from sonship
really into a co-heir and I was telling
I think some of you guys earlier that
you know I feel like I'm kind of middle
of the sonship maturity but but being
drawn towards the co-heir and I don't to
be honest I don't have a real
grasp or framework head for the co-heir
relationship and so and I I'm okay with
that but I'm drawn towards it you know
which is a good thing but we've I'm
teaching at a conference Men's
Conference coming up here in October
October 4th weekend it's called the
identity crisis is the whole the whole
weekend of it so I'm just I'm honored to
speak with that through a ministry
called free indeed really is breaking
off not just addiction but it's all
about identity and getting us deeper
into that which is just huge well I want
to encourage you and you to care and
whatever you do have going on put it in
the notes of the Christ consciousness
and ECLA see arises and put it in the
comments section so they can have that
and even in on the YouTube section so
people can find it if you have yeah
wanting encourage people to go to those
things yeah definitely cool and then
yeah and we may you know we're just
meeting every every Monday night as men
and that's just continuing to grow and
to be really just great I mean I love I
love that physical meeting as well with
the fellas and then we meet is with the
youth on Saturday nights we do worship
upset that's live and then just
following that we do meet with that man
the the youth get this stuff faster than
than I ever can and it's just amazing to
watch them come into identity so make
dang if I was 15 16 years old
learning about actual identity and
flowing and talking with the father
directly
oh where I'd be now you know 40 so yeah
that's like I'm I'm excited watching
these kids just just catch catch
identity and and because we're gonna
move faster into co-heir and then I'll
be able to most likely and that's that's
exciting so I would maybe offline like
to talk to you about the eggs I know
we're kind of wrapping up here because
we didn't get to discuss that live here
but would love to talk more about the
maturing sons and co-heirs or Kings and
so forth yeah absolutely we need to have
Martin back on again so we can do that
yeah yeah we might yeah that'd be good
work that's a whole other thing
whose neck was that everything worker
yeah Michael well I could tell you a lot
of physical things that are happening
right now and bore you guys but I feel
like there's something happening in a
spirit is these personally God is
challenging me to just get back into the
weird crazy wild like as weird as it
gets and then go further type stuff and
so that's pretty much what I'm gonna
endeavor to do is just keep diving into
that and doing a lot of I can't wait to
launch your training because you really
do have a lot of brilliance inside of
you that needs to be packaged in a way
that people can can get it
so when you're ready I'm ready to help
you so I would love to if anybody has
you know any questions and they want to
schedule I would love to start to work
with people and not as some kind of guru
guy but like I've been around the world
a little bit and I've seen thanks and
we're gonna be moving very soon there's
a lot of miracles that are happening
here in Hawaii we're getting our real
estate licenses and it's just been
everything and Maori I'm sorry you said
you're getting your real estate license
right after you said there were a lot of
miracles happening will be actually
passing the exam study I'm just gonna
pray about it yeah there is a real
estate angel right that will help you
write the exam like I have to
spiritualize everything so it's like
okay well what does it say in the Bible
about deeds and titles like the
measuring life and all these these news
I'm totally new to it but it makes me
think about the Bible a lot more like
what are what are we actually doing
we're getting people signed up we're
we're agents for the New Jerusalem we're
getting your deed
your mansion in heaven secured and then
you know once you sign up with Jesus you
know you're you're set and then we get
it I can get an agent commission Jesus
is like here's five percent it's yep
it's 12 million interdimensional
spaceship poin interdimensional credits
its currency of right wing called ether
coin by ether yeah new bitcoin called
ether currency gonna be my next Derek OH
so for me you know consistency is key
than anything that we're doing so I'm
trying to be consistent trying to show
up continue with the it's kind of hard
with the internet and you know so we're
trying to find ways to work with it or
work around it or whatever so that's
really big on my plate right now it's
been four months actually and I'm just
trying to get it work or work around
that but close what I'm bringing out of
ously we do our Thursday night school to
the Mystics Sunday morning seer classes
for all the patreon supporters let's see
I've been writing a lot for this book
that I've been writing for a while it's
on a wrestle and pray about what I
should put in there because as I Jenny
one down one road it's like okay you
know this is a book work headed down so
oh man so but I want something big
October linen like there's books it's
gonna be like books with in books so
like I'm trying to just it's a whole
umbrella of like my work and encounters
and so as I give one encounter I'm like
I don't know if I should put that
encounter and not add all the other
encounters you know do a series that
it'll be more easily read as in a series
of smaller books
yeah because every subject that I'm
touching on could be a book in itself
like well it's like Angela contact
whether it's you know stargazing or
whatever the case is but anyway I'm
working on that
well as we have the conference coming up
the Christ consciousness conference that
we're putting on here in Mobile
September the 14th I'ma be speaking
doing music as well buddy of mine Justin
Caldwell he's gonna be doing music and
leading prophetic worship and no I just
want to say on that Derrick that I don't
know why but for whatever reason I've
been somewhat compelled to try to get
there I don't know if I can but I
watching for them many of the other
conferences I don't know so there's
something that that is just stirring in
me to come come to that I just want to I
want to see you in person
yeah and yeah so if I can if well you
know it's gonna be a matter of fathers
already put it on my heart so I have to
just look at the provision that if
that's meant to happen yeah would let me
be good it's gonna be good I'm looking
forward to it and I want to plug the
other guy Joshua lumen who is uh who's
gonna be speaking as well we're gonna be
speaking about dream interpretation and
he's gonna I believe he's gonna be here
with us soon with the next stages he's
gonna be part of this this group -
Joshua flume in and most likely Adam
star seed will be with us as well I'm
giving shots out to those guys but yeah
September to 14th man we're gonna get it
get it in I'm gonna be talking about
sound healing light healing vibration
you know all of the fun stuff music and
then we're gonna just practice it we're
gonna do some you know sound healing
getting and then tapping into the
presence of God through prayers and
worship and loving on Jesus so we got a
bunch of people traveling from all over
who are gonna be here and it's gonna be
a good time of fellowship and like the
tickets are $25 to register it's in
Mobile Alabama for those of you don't
who don't know you can go to Christ
- consciousness com to get the info
there or you can go to troops eager calm
all the info is there 25 dollar tickets
I'd love to see
you guys we're gonna have dinner
together and all that good stuff so
anyway that's what I'm bringing to the
table within the next month or so
awesome I also have meditations and
music that people can get now yeah I got
met meditations available at true seeker
com just put out we did two of them
recently I did the scene Jesus which is
the the encountering Jesus the the hem
of His garment got a meditation did that
one and then the recent one I did which
is a little bit different but this is
the I called it the Heavenly Father
Mother Earth
guided meditation where you connect with
the Heavenly Father then don't forget
your mother
don't forget what you came from people
and literally ground and to go into the
spirit of the Inner Earth and go to the
bedrock and an encounter your your
earthly mother and so grounding in and
of itself is powerful putting your feet
on the ground and taking literally
taking your shoes off and grounding and
releasing connecting that way
but this is amazing that could lead you
through that process as well to just
combine heaven and earth together on
earth as it is in heaven it's a mirror
image of of both so you can't have one
without the other so all that's
available at truce tiga calm there's
other thing he recorded the loss books
I mean I've shared that a lot and I go
yeah it's awesome yeah it's just a
little teaching on some of the
information I got years ago just the
lost books of the Bible that not that
are like or just I mean there's tons of
them
you know people that claim that these
books are legit but these are the books
are actually mentioned in the Bible with
a Bible quote stemless like as it is
written in the book of shamaya the
prophet or II do the seer or whatever
the case is it's like who are these
people so kind of give a biblical
breakdown of where they're mentioned in
the Bible and there's like yeah 20 30 of
them and so when somebody says where's
that in the Bible he took care of that
[Laughter]
you know the enoch stuff and it's
mentioned of and in gesture but there's
a whole bunch more that we have never
even heard that's good oh no oh yeah
alright Berlin you going next year Am I
why don't you go ahead okay yeah so I'm
traveling and so I've got a lot of life
stuff going on but I'm writing my next
book and it's it's going to be about
your business destiny and Derek I hope
that you will do the cover for me I
don't know if you can or not but we'll
see anyway so I have that coming up
we're still going forward with the
spirit centered business membership we
meet every first and third Thursday and
actually do an activation and a spirit
walk together to find out what father
has for our businesses and that's been
going really well we've had some great
breakthrough and some really cool stuff
happened during those so you can always
go to spirit centered business and click
on the membership button there to go
there it's on it's a patreon account so
you can also find on me on patreon with
spirit center business but that's coming
up where we're going to be launching the
podcast again it was I've got a hundred
episodes in the can but I'm rebranding
and then doing some live stuff and so or
not live but new interview type stuff so
that's going to come on to the kingdom
Cox channel after I get done with all of
my traveling in mid-october sometime in
that in that timeframe so I'm excited
about what God's doing in people's
businesses and I really believe that
we're supposed to be engaging in a
bigger a bigger mandate and not
necessarily relying on having a Jo be
right relying on someone else's platform
we need to create our own and what God
told us now not everybody is cut out to
be an entrepreneur obviously I'm not
talking to everybody but if you've been
called and
you have this little feeling well I
should start this or I should do this or
even as a side thingy everyone has
amazing brilliance and experience and
expertise and a message to share that
you could get out there in some
monetized form so I just want to
encourage all of you that you can have a
spirit centered business amen
good good good all right so some of you
are looking at this through I'm gonna
say our eyes Kingdom talks dies so
you're seeing our logo Derek's got his
going as well or I guess you weren't
able to get that going
we got your internet fixed we gotta get
your internet fixed so we're praying
with you on that and if there's anything
physically we can do let us know anyway
so you know for a Dean and I our main
thing that would choose two main things
Kingdom equipping center but that's the
local it's a local expression but then
the you I am which is the ultimate
impact that is our main message that the
father is given to us and again it's all
about laying a foundation for people who
are curious interested they have to be
hungry because if they're not hungry
they're just gonna poopoo the whole
thing the whole time because you know
they carry that religious spirit so if
you're hungry and you're looking for
more of God then this would be for you
to step in if you know I was a skeptic
so it was hard for me to look at some of
this stuff but um but so we put it in a
format that we feel is easy to
understand there 10 to 15 minute
teachings a day and and then the end of
the week you get together as a group you
discuss it and and you activate so
that's what we're doing we've got over
100 teachings on there right now and
it's going really well we've got quite a
few people on there and it's it's
expanding pretty pretty rapidly so
that's that's our main thing that's good
really the mandate message that the
father's put in our hearts to get out
there so with that we're also now
looking at and considering we put it out
there last Friday the idea of doing mini
retreats where we may just start as
we're you know we travel quite a bit and
while we're in the middle of these that
we
start doing many retreats at you know
like Airbnb and have 10 to 15 people
that would come together and we actually
do life together we do some of the next
age things together and we you know so
in to be light on the teaching heavy on
the activation
so that's something where we're starting
to put together also want to make sure
that if you haven't heard Chris Carter
is coming here in October so October 17
18 19 and 20 that's Thursday Friday
Saturday Sunday and it's gonna be three
nights and four days at a air B&B so we
are gonna be doing this mini retreat
although we're gonna have probably this
is a real full-on retreat yeah it's a
full-on retreat and with a conference at
the same time but there's gonna be about
30 people that'll be able to stay at the
place and just have fun chris loves to
have fun just get to know him you know a
heart to heart level and we have about
five or six spots left for the retreat
so not a lot left
not a lot left there so if you want to
do that definitely need to go to our
website Kingdom talks mediacom and sign
up for that what else is there oh and
then plus we're also going to be doing
the planetarium which we call the VIP
and create for Friday night we're gonna
go down spend two hours at a planetarium
where Chris is gonna get to tell us
about the Stars and show us you know
what he's been talking about and he's
looking forward to that this will be the
first time this this is gonna happen so
we're excited about that
yeah and then I just I just wanna throw
this out there you know Sunday night I
gave my testimony I'm getting set free
of depression and other tools of the
enemy I just encourage you to go take a
look at that if you struggled with any
of that to just see what I did and I
explained in there that hey these are
the tools I use they work for me doesn't
mean that they're gonna work for you but
I'm pretty passionate about it and they
have worked for a lot of other people so
just take a look at that if you get a
chance that's on a kingdom equipping
Center YouTube channel and you can get
that information it's under the king
Sunday nights playlist and then again
Kingdom talks mediacom go over there if
you want to see what's going on we're
building
that out Berlin's doing an awesome job
working on that getting getting a lot of
that done but eventually we want to have
channels there that would you know we
haven't talked about it Derek but would
love to have your show featured there
would love to have fringe radios
featured there and free and flashing
hands and in the spirit class everybody
having their Channel
and there'd be others that would come on
as well but basically have that be a
kind of a go-to place to find all these
different next age people that are
sharing and talking and that they'd be
able to find you there so I think that's
it did I miss anything no I think we
should do a group selfie Karen you want
to take a picture of all of us yeah we
got the one with the angel wings I'm
gonna call it angel wings new new word
thanks everybody for hanging out with us
whether you listening to this live or
listening to this on the podcast end as
well make sure you check out everybody's
work because this is a group of people
that I really feel strongly about and
these are my peeps and if you're looking
for some cool peeps definitely check out
each one and what they bring to the
table individually and this is what we
do collectively as well so make sure
y'all check them out and so thank you
guys for hanging out with this true
seeker podcast and everybody else
broadcasting on their platforms as well
god bless you we'll do it again very
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