Binaural Beats and Brainwaves + Energy Healing | No Disassemble | TruthSeekah Podcast
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to the table and and
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know you and uh
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this episode and the beautiful thing is
that we're gonna be talking about music
on this episode and we were just in a
deep conversation about
music and spiritual healing so i was
like jesse man why don't you co-host
this episode with me man let's make it
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today's guest today's guest is
no disassemble what's up brother mr
christopher jordan welcome to the
podcast brother how are you
doing great how are you guys doing today
awesome awesome man thank you so much
for having me on i'm
always glad to talk about enlightenment
and pads like this in life with people
that's it experiences man and my whole
thing with this podcast is is not
not even to be a teacher or to teach you
knowledge or
experiences or whatever but it's just
like to talk to individuals and see
what's working for you
like what's helping you maintain your
peace and enjoy this life and if
everybody brings those
experiences to the table then those
pieces form
of the puzzle formulate a picture and so
we're going to talk about what's working
with your spirituality your joys and
what
you know keeps you going how are you
maintaining sanity without the
state of the world right now all that
stuff man yeah
yeah it really is important and key
to to realize that the the journey is
the conversation
and the conversation is the journey um
for
all of us as people good stuff
um first question i got for you before
we go into the background stuff and just
kind of introducing yourself
the name no disassemble is the name that
your music is under right
yep okay did you get it from this
damn it you clapped with what you did
oh yeah yo disassembled johnny five
actually
if you if you look at my artwork over
here over my shoulder
um you can see that it's actually made
from the oculus of johnny five's eye
um and if you if you go onto the website
or go where you can see the picture in
more detail you'll
you'll start seeing like the ekg of a
heartbeat in the background
and circuits and all kinds of stuff so
yeah i am a
huge huge fan my brother actually gave
me the name no disassemble
oh wow um i'd been in an electronic
music project that was
gaining a little bit of steam and was
hugely creative
like we in about a year created about
four albums worth of music it was just
insane um and it was super fun that my
buddy went out on the road we're
professional av techs for a living and
he went out on the road with the marvel
universe
um as their projection lead and i was
just kind of left in limbo
i was i was in the middle of making a
bunch of electronic
music and still wanted to keep making
but didn't know if i could really
forge forward on my own my brother was
like
you know you should keep doing it man
like hey go under the name no
disassemble
you know like you do all the circuit
mods and stuff like that where you take
apart people's pedals and rebuild them
and change the parts so
like that that's a cool name i was like
you know what
i'm stealing it uh so i did
but yeah that is that is the origin of
the name no disassemble my brother is
probably one of my uh
one of my most raging fans musically uh
like i told you before the show
been making music for 20-something years
and just started getting my stuff
distributed
um i guess i i never really figured that
there was a wide audience for it
for a long time i made really
experimental and avant-garde music
and was on a avant-garde radio show in
houston once a month things like that
and he used to record the show for me
every week and
uh like he he doesn't even know a lot
about assembling av but the fact that he
hacked together this timeable rig in his
garage
was awesome he had like a little tv
plugged into a vcr
and then the audio from a radio plugged
in
so yeah he could like set the timer on
the vcr for five minutes before my show
started in 10 minutes after it ended
so like i literally have five years of
live shows recorded on vhs tape
the weird the weird thing to think about
is that there's people still doing that
oh god yeah god yeah and they won't
change for
for nothing you know that's the best way
you know what's funny is that
i just got these shelves behind me all
of a couple weeks ago
and as i was putting things into it my
wife ran across
my i still use my tascam analog 4 track
like my tascam mark ii 414 like it is
still my jam
um when it comes to analog reverse
and like reverse guitar reverse sounds
like
nothing sounds like actual tape reverse
like you could
you could algorithmically reverse that
in a digital audio workstation
all day it does not sound the same
so i keep it for specific uses like that
and
i was like you know i i should take this
and mount it in a glass box that says in
case of emergency break glass
because no matter what you can always go
back like i still have a box of analog
tape um
if it all goes down i can still make
music yeah
i g i'm bad with names and stuff like
that but when you talk about that
you know analog who was the guy who who
created the synthesizer like
he was using it to supposedly contact
entities and stuff man do you know any
yeah any of that story yeah yeah
absolutely um
thereman louis theremin was the
gentleman that i mean that was one of
the first synthesized
sounds and stuff like that and that was
definitely in the realm of
tesla technology at the time they had
all kinds of live
performances that they did where
they had two antennas on different sides
of a stage
and had people dancing in between them
and creating music like just wild
incredible stuff
and to know that um yeah back in the
1920s
stuff like that somebody came up with
the idea of
my hands are interrupting a field
of radio waves i wonder if i can tap
into how i'm interrupting that field of
radio waves yeah
um so yeah yeah things like that i bet
i find fascinating i've got a up amongst
all my
uh little tchotchkes over my shoulder i
have my theremin on the
on the top shelf um huge huge fan of
those things they are just so
much fun and that's the moog right yeah
yeah the the moog theremin is what i
have um
and they're they're super great like you
i mean
i myself build like optical theremins
uh you know little five five five timers
things like that
and just so much fun to teach kids
circuits that kind of thing there's
literally all the like ten parts inside
of one
um but it teaches a lot of basic
principles of circuitry things like that
so uh that's what got me into my music i
was
i was always into knobs circuits
you know when i was a kid
family members for my birthday would
just give me a box of broken items
to play with and i would tear them apart
and you know try to put them back
together like i remember getting in
trouble one monday morning
because my mom went to use her blow
dryer and it it just didn't work anymore
i had to know how it worked
and had taken it apart but could not get
it put back together in working
condition
um so yeah
it it was just an obsession that's
carried on through my life
and has kind of culminated into no
disassemble my tinkering with
electronics is what led me into
oh what does that piece of gear do you
know
um it led me into my career as an av
technician it's it's literally driven my
entire life
um and i think i think it's one of those
that
had i not had family members like my
grandfather
who encouraged that um i do not think
that i would be where i am today
i i even remember when i was first
starting out as an
av tech you know as a stage tech i had
family members that asked you know like
hey whenever you're done with those
wires what kind of job are you going to
get
um i i do pretty decent
in my living now and i get to choose the
jobs i do and take the ones i don't you
know
uh leave the ones i don't take the ones
i do all that kind of stuff so
it's great it really is like a whole new
realm of freedom
that i i literally found through my
music
um and chris
it's been phenomenal a question um
specifically on what you just
uh said you said that there were uh
frequencies that would kind of make
make you vibrate a little bit as far as
the hands moving
yeah you find that um certain
frequencies move certain parts of the
body
or uh would like like that certain
frequency be
moving the hands of everybody in that in
between or
um well there are definitely frequencies
that
do uh respond to different parts of the
bodies and different parts of the body
that respond to different frequencies
most definitely my reference there was
more the fact of somebody
considering the fact that radio waves
were already known they were existing
and we knew that they were just
kind of there you know like the tesla
spirit radio when he was just
hearing low earth energy waves and very
low frequencies things like that that
sound like
moans groans um the only way he could
describe it was
voices from the other side um
he described them as voices from from
interstellar planets
things like that which he may have well
been picking up
uh i've got a whole album called
ecliptic that literally
uses the frequencies emitted by the
planets um
it's it's amazing and to know that even
back then
people like tesla people like louis
theremin
um had this concept in mind and it it's
really interesting
because on my dudes and beer podcasts we
talk frequently
about that hundred year cycle
that humanity tends to go through kind
of like we're at a hundred year plague
right now
that's weird that's so weird yeah they
were saying that this was coming
like there were memes everywhere about
hey you know what happens every 20s
the 1920s the 18 20s 17 20s here we are
we're getting a play silly thing it's
there so
weird it's it's there and if you look at
the same trend like
the trend towards spiritualism right now
not necessarily spirituality but
spiritualism in the paranormal
that's right what we were dealing with
in the 1920s like that was
that that was literally harry houdini's
all-ending passion at the end of his
life
was to debunk people that were saying
they were connecting to the other side
like so much so that he left his wife
with a key word when he left and said if
i can contact you from the other side
this is the word i will use and for
every year on the anniversary of his
death until the
day she died and i want to say their son
may have continued on the tradition
but they carried on that seance every
year
to try to contact him to see if that was
the case
and we're right up against that now if
you look at just about any basic cable
station
see if they don't have a paranormal show
yeah yeah
like it's everywhere so to to kind of
ignore this cycle in history i think it
does not behoove us as humanity um
and when 2012 passed and
people were really misconstruing i think
the
the message of the mayan prophecy and
the mayan calendar
um saying like it's the end of the world
it's like no no it's the end of a cycle
which means that we have we have found a
technology
which is the daytime part of the cycle
and we are entering into the night time
which is the application of that what
are we going to do as a humanity
now that we know these things you know
because it really is that fact of like
but like we were saying before the show
jesse um
once you know that your electron
shell is mixing with people in chile or
alabama like right now we are sharing an
electron shell according to physics
90 of us is empty space and
once you realize that you're kind of
responsible for whatever vibration you
drag into a room with you
you know you're you're responsible for
the vibration that
you put out into the world
we we are nothing more than biological
receivers
and resistors that's all we are that's
it
we are a big biological circuit
and all of that operates off vibration
i love that you use the word responsible
because it basically
says you're you're the one that's doing
it and yeah
it's not going to come from anywhere
else you're the one that has to
present that vibration out yeah yeah
it's kind of the idea of like
you walked into the office there are 50
other people there they seem to be in a
good mood but you're not
is it those 50 people or is it you
yeah um i'm sorry
all logic dictates that's you it's not
the other 50 people causing that
vibration
on you it may be you and the way you
receive the vibration when you come
in or whether or not you're happy at
work or fulfilled as a person
you know there may be a lot of root
causes to that
let me let me ask you let me ask you
this where you mentioned um
uh these cycles right and we're going
through a hundred year cycle right
and uh yeah what do you what do you
think is the is the uh the cause of that
do you think it is the
the planetary alignment and and the the
earth
i mean the sun and stars and everything
just the alignments
you know creating seasons the bible says
every for everything there's a season
time for war peace killing like there's
a season for everything and so
i know like the jewish people would
would have these
you know they were definitely dealing
off with the moon like everything
deals right they're on a lunar cycle
lunar cycle
and uh and we're actually in the time of
passover
and i'll say this like one thing about
that is getting all the 11
out of your house the 11 and what you
know and that's what they did in that
story right
you get all the 11 out of the house the
11 in a spiritual sense represents
uh sin or things that no longer serve
you things that are hurting you and so
yeah i've just kind of found myself
in this just naturally in this last week
because we're in passover right now
of naturally like just combing through
my life okay i need to
i need to get these things out of my
life that that no longer serve me and
there's like a almost like a magnifying
glass
held up to it naturally in the world
right now
do you think that these are imprints or
the stars are kind of
you know moving around so that
everyone's experiencing something
similar
i i definitely i mean this is
pretty well backed up by physics just
the fact that yes
we are impacted by the stellar world
around us
i mean to to think otherwise is a little
bit silly we're at a
we're at what's called a solar minimum
right now you know which means that
we we could at any point experience a
solar storm
where there's there's all kinds of
things even solarly
that affect the earth um so and that's
kind of the whole reason that i had
written that
um that vibrational album years ago
about the planets was it was
specifically for planetary meditation
and people who meditate with the houses
of the zodiac where it's like yeah
neptune is closer to us now and it's in
this house
so i'm going to meditate on neptune well
here's the actual
frequencies that neptune generates so
that you can tie into that a little bit
easier
um things like that and yeah i mean even
even right now i am
holding my crystal um i've i've got
a dozen of them or so right here and a
couple back there
i'm i'm never not with one um
because it's a vibration that i can feel
whether or not other people can feel it
or not
it is a grounding frequency for me
um and yeah all all physics shows us
uh this is piezoelectric that means
whenever it
you can apply a pressure to it it can
send out a current
you know like that that's how piezo
buzzers work
that's how you know microphones work
radios all kinds of things radios
crystal radios um without that we would
without
our knowledge of how to manipulate
quartz um
and its vibrations we would not be
talking
at all right now at all whether it was a
crystal microphone
back in the day that was literally made
out of tiny bits of carbon crystal
with two wires and whenever they picked
up vibration and moved
they sent a current down the line um
reverse
that and it's a speaker yeah
[Laughter]
you know so and and to take it even
further
computer chips silicon still quartz
um still has that base still has that
element in there
so yeah uh our vibration the vibration
of the world around us
it has so entirely much to do
with our life with the timeline that
we're living in
what's going on in our world uh and i i
don't want to get political but just to
just to give an example of that um
there there's a concept in wicca of the
you know the the threefold
whenever whenever you do something it is
delivered back onto you threefold that's
why you do not do bad
things that's why you use white magic
right that's why you use white magic
that's a plug on my upcoming album
called white magically
precisely you know and good lord
i i was not a fan of our last president
don't really care if you were or not but
whenever you hear about witches from
across the country getting together to
cast a spell
against the candidate to harm him yeah
and then you
wonder what the hell we went through for
four years
and then at the end of his thing they're
like you know what it didn't work
let's do it again you're like dude stop
stop y'all are putting out energy into
the world that is not
good and intentionally so
and you wonder why we end up with
plagues
man
like this is how the flood happened yo
gotta get the witches under wraps man
running a buck it's not rocket math
you know these are all things these are
all cycles that we have gone through
before as humanity they have
they are all things that we
once again have the con the opportunity
to conceptualize
and hold on to or like you said about
the
levin truth seeker to let it go
you know um it what i i was brought up
roman catholic i spent my first year in
college as a seminarian
um and we were having the conversation
before the show jesse about
finding your spiritual path not your
religious path right
my spirituality and my connection to my
capital g
universal god is beyond all leather
that's good um do i need an edifice in
order for that connection to happen
no not really my religion is what i
practice in a building with people of
like mind for an hour a week
my spirituality is how i take that
message and the teachings i've
culled through my years and carry that
through my life
and i think unfortunately humanity of
most people are much more guided toward
the religious
than toward the spiritual and
and i really think it's just that
in a part of us that a wants to belong
be wants to be guided
yeah yeah you know um because it is hard
it's not
easy it's not easy to wake up every day
feel like crap and go
doesn't mean it's going to be a bad day
man don't put that on it
you know just because you woke up with a
tummy ache or a headache doesn't mean
the rest of the day is going to be
horrible
doesn't mean that people are going to be
horrible the rest of the day
like anything you're doing there you are
putting on that situation
before it ever exists and like
the concept that we talk about on dudes
and beer all the time is having the
conversation
on the way to the table
like before you even get to the table
with the person you're about to have the
conversation with
you've already had it out loud in the
car
your mind's made up yep how
how are they how are they supposed to
reach you at all if your door is closed
and your mind's made up
so if you aren't going through every day
with
that that seeking that
that looking for something greater than
you
looking for that small moment that
resonates through the rest of your day
or even trying to be that person that
just randomly compliments three people a
day
doesn't matter you don't even have to
know them walking through the grocery
store
nice shirt man that's all it takes that
may be the
only good thing that person's heard or
experienced
all day
so yeah it kind of it kind of becomes
like we were saying earlier
our responsibility for the vibrational
state that we exist in
you know even with all the horrible
things going on in the world right now
you can live in fear or you could use it
as a moment of opportunity
one of the two you know
and even even with the horrible pandemic
going on
are you using that as an opportunity to
get closer to your family that you're
distant from
you know to call up check in how you
doing
you're doing all right you know like a
covered check-in as it's termed now you
know we're just saying hey man cover
check-in how's everybody doing
you know just little shout outs on
social media things like that where
it really is that that moment of
thoughtfulness that moment of
mindfulness
in the world
so yeah i'm i'm a big believer in
vibration and the fact that the world
vibrates around us and fully affects us
fully the difference is we have an
opportunity to kind of scaler wave
that that vibration when it hits us and
process it
and maybe turn it into something
different as it as it rebounds off
and ripples to somebody else you know
that's what i consider my job is just
one more of these little things in the
world that
i'm just supposed to process that
negativity and turn it into good things
for people
that's yeah i mean i've i've for years
believed that so to
i like i said um for me
it it's a point of denying physics to
say that the world the vibration does
not affect us
and i cannot deny science i can't
i find it really hard because well it's
science
i hope that answered your question in a
very roundabout way
yes sir awesome
um well so you know i titled this
episode
talking about binary beats and there's
something that you work on
um what can you can you first of all can
you play some binary beats for
those who don't know what it is and
secondly can you explain
what it does to the brain what it does
to your
i would say auric field and uh and you
know why you would
use them in in your music or in your
meditations
binaural beats in the
just to go into physics a little bit
it's the concept of entrainment
uh where if you swing two pendulums
opposite ways eventually they will sync
up
yeah same way that oddly enough you turn
your blinker on and
it falls in to sync with the guy in
front of you and then falls out
or whenever you're walking down the
hallway with a friend and you both just
start walking on the same foot at the
same time
and then eventually fall out your brain
is always
looking for pattern visually
and it will it will decode these
patterns and see these patterns
subliminally
whether you see them or not yeah um
these were used by
advertisers for years
to go into commercials to do the the one
frame out of 30 trick
buy coke um during the let's go out to
the lobby thing
in movies like there were laws passed
about it it worked so well
um so the concept of entrainment with
your brain
is basically that if you expose your
brain
to a hertz frequency enough
um that it will not only be able to key
into that
frequency faster the more it is exposed
to it
but also be able to generate that
frequency more readily on its own so
let's say you give your brain an alpha
pattern
which is associated with creativity
wakeful consciousness
things like that um
you're while you are listening to that a
your brain will peak those waves to
begin with
and next time you listen to it your
brain will peak and sink to those waves
even faster um the the more readily
you expose your brain to that the more
readily it
creates that so yeah it literally is
training your brain like a muscle
to hear those frequencies and tie into
them faster
and the concept of binaural beat is that
basically
you are pulsing that wave
uh between the left and the right ear to
stimulate the opposite sides of the
brain
so if if you give your brain a
500 hertz signal in the theta range it
will go
500 500 and it pulses between left and
right
like it sounds almost like a wobble
um and if you get the like i know
i've got a set of the old brainwave
glasses that you use to be able to get
a sharper image where it's like a little
pair of sunglasses
and you put it on and it has the
binaural beats going through your ear
but does the same thing with leds in
front of your eyes
so that you're getting double
stimulation visually and auditory
um so yeah it's it's really interesting
um to know that you can go sorry i
didn't mean
no no um but specifically on the alpha
and the theta
is there a difference there as far as um
like i know you usually only reach theta
when you're asleep
yep um but is there is there things that
you do to kind of get in the theta state
awake
oh absolutely and once again once you
uh one of the easiest things you can do
is meditate
states of deep meditation prayer are
right akin
to that theta wave state which is why
some people
like myself during during evening prayer
almost dependably
um i used to fall asleep
during evening prayer in the seminary
like
i would get into such a state of deep
relaxation
and concentration that my brain just
shut off
um and i felt bad about it for a while
and my spiritual director was like
don't feel bad remember that that calm
voice came while he was asleep chris
it's okay if you fall asleep during
meditation time
um so but yeah like your
your brain daring deep meditation is
right there
at that range and it's wild because
whenever you watch the brainwave
frequencies
of people like deepak chopra stuff like
that
um there was a great show years ago
called superhumans
called stan lee's superhumans um on a
e yeah and they did an episode on deep
meditation
and brainwave control and i want to say
they got deepak chopra
to come in and meditate with like like
let's observe your brain waves
and he was like okay i'm gonna start
meditating
and like closed his eyes and relaxed and
you just saw his brain waves like
like dip it was like whoa like
like homie actively controls
his waking brain waves like he went into
a state of almost sleep like immediately
it was wild um so yeah you can
control these brain waves you you can do
that
it takes a lot of work don't get me
wrong
um but you can and whenever like you
were saying
um are you able to achieve these things
while you're asleep
or while you're awake yes you you can
you can um and you can also at the same
time
incorporate things like alpha waves
while you sleep
to to help out with lucid dreaming
that kind of stuff and and help out with
creativity while you're asleep
like i i do a lot of dream work where um
i fall asleep with intention
where i'm actively trying to to wire
something or figure out a problem and i
go to sleep
purposefully thinking about that and
searching for the answer
um so yeah like it's it's interesting
because you can do
a lot um the brain is such
a plastic organ and
m machine like computing machine
um the things that you can teach it to
do and
the realms the parts of your brain that
you can help activate
are pretty amazing when it comes to
deep brain stimulation processes uh
things things like binaural beats and
another programming
uh stimuli like that
what are your thoughts on um like
transhumanism
and um just just where we're going with
technology because you're a man of
technology
you got it all around you i am too but
you're a spiritual man as well
yeah and for many people that there's a
conflict there
is there is there a balance where the
two walk
together in union you know are the do
the two need to become as one do we need
to make sure we hold on to our humanity
and
uh put our feet in the ground and but
still have microchips in us or
smartphones in our pockets
could be the same thing very similar um
i mean what do you
think about about where we're going and
how much
responsibility that we're giving to
machines and you know there's even like
robot
cops and things that police you know
certain
buildings and malls and things like that
what do you what do you think about
where we're headed is it fun
is it exciting is it scary most people
are scared to death
yes to all of those it's fun it's
awesome it's amazing
it's scary as hell yeah um i used to
work the nvidia conference every year on
both coasts
um so like all their major product
releases things like that
man the technology that i would see yeah
like in my room like in my breakout room
where people are like
okay so you know we're tied into our
server right now and you
you can see where we're live mapping the
surface of the sun
with these new tesla cards it's like
what the what the what
like people are using video cards to
live map the surface of the sun
um that's crazy you know and and to hear
about um to to hear
the head of lockheed martin
get up on my stage about four years ago
and talk about
moore's law getting ready to collapse
moore's law is like the law that's
existed since the beginning of computing
and
it it's what decides how many
transistors can fit on the surface of a
chip
and basically sets forth the fact that
speed and capacity doubles every six
months
um you know that concept of what we get
off the shelf right now brand new
the government had 10 years ago you know
research facilities were using that five
six years ago
that's old technology to them it's brand
new to us
um and yeah to know that now you can go
and buy literally a super computer for
five thousand dollars
and and start like cracking your own
crypto codes
and things like that it's pretty wild
i've seen some of those stations where
they're nothing but
nvidia cards there's like oh 50 nvidia
cards that are
mining cryptocurrencies like what the
heck
well i've got one that i just built
that's got um
six 12 or six 24 gig
tesla nvidia cards in it um and it's for
video rendering
high project rendering things like that
where all 24 of those cards
act as a card so it's like here's your
144 gigabytes of
uh rendering what do you need to kick
out
[Laughter]
and it's wild it's wild cause like yeah
i could literally download
milky way and start like modeling black
holes in my home
with this thing yeah like it's it's
insane
the fact that i built that in this room
like i didn't need a clean room i didn't
i bought
parts and built it that's the world that
we're living in now
um and one of the one of the jags that
we've gone on on dudes and beer
over the last couple years is sex spots
like they're everywhere i just posted i
just posted an article today
uh where a sex bot said in an interview
that don't worry like we'll be in
control one day
and i was like you hear this you hear
this um
this isn't even ai yet in this machine
and what do you think is going to happen
when it does become
ai and they find out that we just use
them for warehouse staff
and sex bots you want to know you want
to know how the matrix happens and they
see us
as as a disease that's how it happens
yeah
they have to go if they have like a
moral compass and they know that they
were degraded or created yeah
you know here's the thing i mean you're
creating that purpose
created as slaves i mean exactly does
that sound familiar
annunaki sumerian you're created to be
our slaves in
in mine gold hey you're you're uh
you're created to mine crypto gold
fake currency on the internet and you're
created for
just this one specific purpose sounds
very eerie right it sounds very similar
too
why sir my main language is the language
of ethereum much like your bitcoin
that that's what the new theory c3po
will be saying
yeah instead of evaporator cores it'll
be you know the bit currency that it
speaks
and and decodes so yeah i mean it it
really is
once again it comes back to that mayan
prophecy
and in the concept of day and night and
right now
we are in night how are we going to
apply this technology
how are we going to use it we can use it
like
there was an article released in
uh august in august stating
cern created matter out of light
now let that sink in the the large
hadron collider in an experiment
created matter out of light
that is literally three steps away from
replicator
give me a cappuccino or replicator
feed this village you got 3d printing
that's
that's very similar right like well this
is like
light it's everywhere as long as we have
lighter can create it we can create
matter so that means we could create
food that means we could create
fuel that means we could literally
create anything that we want
technically um so we're all of a few
steps
away from that you know and
and that's that's incredible that is
that is
literally the realm of science fiction
to create something out of
not nothing but to transmute
matter that is alchemy my friend
we we have stepped from the world as
arthur c clarke would say
um what is high technology to us an
ancient civilization would see as magic
and and we have just reversed that we
have gone back to the point
of alchemy by using our high technology
and to think about that is just a twist
on humanity in general
you know like that that's what we should
be doing
if we're going to be using this
technology for something we should be
using it for things like that
so where we can better humanity so
but light is just a frequency it is so
nothing more than a frequency huh
nothing more
right so do we tap into that frequency
somehow
to then now i mean do you need a discern
to do that
essentially i know they have to have
certain it's creating a vacuum space but
can you do it theoretically in the real
world
well well um without that massive power
would be the question can we microsize
that can we do something
without a loop existing from france to
italy
to switzerland and back
because yeah like it takes a little bit
of
space to move those atoms and get them
moving to the speed of light
yeah um in order for that to happen but
hey china just turned on its nuclear sun
um and that uh that's straight up like
spider-man 2
you know like what's gonna happen
we don't know yet you know um but
yeah it's an artificial sun creating
fusion power
things like that and it it's big enough
to fit
in the footprint of a home
you know i mean it would take up the
entire space of your
home cubicle right but the fact that
it's that small
it's phenomenal look at the size of a
nuclear reactor whenever you drive by it
and that's just the steam that's just
the steam vent
that has to be that big um the facility
underneath is so much larger
so to think about the fact of fusion
energy happening
on the scale of that um i know there's a
video that we play on my show all the
time from
uh lockheed martin once again in their
their future weapons division
uh talking about and
it shows the reactor behind the guy and
it's about the size of this room
and he's like this this could power a
plane
like it's a nuclear reactor that they're
looking at
releasing into very small devices stuff
like that
and even he was saying four years ago
when that video was developed
um and released that they could micro
size that
once a year at least
that they can make it more efficient and
smaller
every year with the technology that's
coming out um
so yeah like we're talking fusion
reactors the size of my desk
over here that's phenomenal
i mean that is absolutely amazing just
to think what
you know just the process of what
computers have
you know were when they started how big
they were
size of a building a computer was the
size of a building essentially right
and just like you talking about having
just you know memory
on on what we had on our cards of like
this is a three megabyte
card now we can hold a terabyte on
something
even you know smaller and uh very
interesting to even think
you know having the big computers are in
our pocket
yeah smaller than your hand some of them
well and
what you can do with it even to know
that something like this one
120 gig card is more memory than what
took us to the moon
there is more storage right here in
between my fingertips
than what took us to the moon yeah
computing-wise
that's mind-numbing i'm 45. i remember
having an atari
2600. i still have it out in my garage
favorite game um
like to know that we've come to the
point that we are now
where there is virtual reality within my
lifetime to know
that um people are being trained in that
regularly
people people are training robots with
it
you know like we we have just stepped to
a whole
new world of taking oh he's pulling out
the vive
nice go oculus quest
[Laughter]
i got a guy who wants to interview me in
the oculus
he has a room he has a room where you
take your
virtual character i don't know how he
does it i'm assuming yeah
vr chat or something but uh you want to
sit down and have an interview
uh with my avatar and i was like i'm up
for it i'll do it for sure
yeah heck yeah and and that's just it
like we've gotten to a point where there
are virtual chat rooms like that
we've gotten to a point where there are
programs like second life where you can
put on entire
concerts they wanted me to do a concert
in second life
yeah i was like what yeah it's wild dude
it is it is wild and amazing and all of
this stuff has developed
like i remember the computer i had in
high school had a turbo button
that took it to 256 megabytes of ram
that was for gaming mode like welcome to
gaming mode
overclocking it or something right yeah
it's like 256. come on man
come on man come on man uh
yeah like it's like it's ridiculous
i would i was 16 when i had that
computer i'm 45 now
and just built it like my computer that
i'm working on now has 256 gigs of ram
like no need for a turbo button
it's insane it's it's literally does it
are you telling a difference with that
ram though because i'm i've just went
i just went from 16 to 32 and i want to
go to 64.
can you tell a noticeable difference is
everything sharper quicker
yes yeah god yes um i exported my
my uh i had a three hour long video
in 1080p that i exported and it shot out
in about 30 minutes
that was that was pretty crazy rendering
speed so you think the memory is helping
the rendering yeah well i mean
in my adobe suite i've got 160 gigs
dedicated to adobe so
i've still got an entire compute i've
still got like 46
64 gigs to do other processing with
that's insane i could be rendering three
things like i could be rendering
adobe after effects at the same time
that i'm rendering
adobe premiere it's and not hiccup while
i'm programming website
and we're using photoshop i just did my
first
like i've always made small videos but
i've just got into like we
produced a decent document a decent
documentary presentation on
the mystic circle really good but i was
like i was getting
you know i was just using uh pictures
and just zooming in and kind of tilting
them or whatever just kind of giving you
a little fact
but then i was like i just got into
after effects
i could take those same images throw
them in an after effects uh
um template and render them down and
we're talking you know eight seconds of
of
a video but some of those some of it
would take an hour and a half
an hour and a half to render eight
seconds man and i wanted to keep going
but i would have never
got done with the the presentation
because of the rendering and
stuff exactly a lot of people don't
realize that when it comes to
i ask people all the time in our world
in the world the production truth seeker
like
you you are of course including
rendering time and you're
in your bill right you're including down
time for your system
that you can't like they don't think
they don't they don't think that when
you when they ask you how much you
charge to shoot a music video they're
like
yeah just keep shooting oh no like dude
i can't be without my computer for a day
i can't work on another project like my
business is stymied that
computer is on hold man so you got to be
paying for that time jack
yeah rendering speed so anything to
speed that
up so i'm i'm gonna go up 64 for sure
well it it definitely does make a
difference i can tell you that because
there i mean
while of course you're in your adobe
suite and you're using your cuda cores
to render from your video card
we're getting a little deep geek here
folks um but it's still vibration hold
on i'll bring it back
um but yeah the the more memory you have
available for your processor processor
to use
the faster your the faster your cudas
are going to run
so because there's there's still cpu
being used
things like that and like my new box has
like a
hyper hyper threaded 12 core chip
and stuff like that like it was insane
to be rendering that video and bring up
my task manager and look at all the
graphs and
see like almost no movement like
yeah in the cpu in the memory and
it was like wow wow like i could do so
much while i'm doing this
and that's really
what what i think the brainwave
entrainment
helps with is being able to let your
brain go on autopilot
with things where you don't have to
think about that
um the more the more readily your brain
can create waves of relaxation
um if you're someone like me who suffers
from anxiety
that kind of stuff the easier you're
gonna be able to handle any situation
doesn't matter what it is like even this
morning
my internet went down i'm i'm operating
off my hot spot
right now been there done that yeah
like that that would have been one of
those like hey
man that would just throw my day off uh
but since i've been doing this therapy
and been using it regularly
that kind of stuff um it's it's a world
better
it really is yeah um talk talk a little
bit about again with the uh you know
these sounds of
relaxation right and you can hear a tone
we hear
songs that immediately bring us into
that kind of state
you still with us chris there you are
there you are okay like i said hot spot
yeah for sure you know you got you got
to use what you got um
but talk a little bit about the um the
sound of the womb
and and and how we're connected to that
sound i remember when my daughter was
born we got her this little
teddy bear that had a switch on it that
played this
pulsating you know almost
um sound like it was muffled sound of
the womb that would relax her and help
her sleep
and and you you mess with some of those
sounds too right
oh chris yeah i'm here i'm here
okay the sound of the womb
yeah the sound of the womb um especially
my new album puered somnam uh which
means sleep child whenever i made that
i guess that was really the rebirth of
me into the world of this kind of music
because
i had a son on the way and i was like
man
um you know number one i
i'm a big believer in music
uh-oh
chris we losing you man
or he was ever even here
and continued doing that
um having classical music things like
that and then i added this
in uh before he was born i wrote this
piece
about an hour long and used the sonogram
from from the doctor uh they were they
were pretty impressed that i brought a
recorder
and could patch it into their system
they're the they're at the doctor's
office to be able to record the sounds
but uh i had them
of uh the sounds in the womb
so that while my son uh
slapped things like that
he would have those familiar sounds he
would have those sounds
that were comforting to him during the
first parts of his life
uh the sound of his mother's heartbeat
in utero yeah and
the the sound of his own heartbeat in
utero
so those sounds are deeply underlayed
in the music every once in a while you
can hear
lost you again chris chris chris
can you hear us brother
okay
technical difficulty there
okay all right well chris
has had some problems with his internet
like he said
but i'm gonna go ahead and give him his
plug we're right at an hour
uh we could keep going with chris and
obviously chris does this for a living
with with podcasting and
and speaking for a living he's really
good at it um so
make sure you guys go check out his work
type in no disassemble he does
all types of music he does edm he does
meditation music
he's got he owns a podcasting network
and a bunch of really cool stuff that he
brings to the table so
guys make sure you go subscribe to his
podcast check out his network
and uh check out his music it's what he
does and
the cool thing is when you when you
understand
the intention and behind the frequencies
and the intention
behind the music and what all goes into
creating anything like just even the
idea of what goes into rendering a video
what goes into this presentation that
people have watched and
that took me an hour and a half for this
eight second clip
to to be in that that video you know and
all the little stuff behind it so
make sure y'all check out his work no
disassemble christopher
jordan um bro have you seen
the uh there's a video and i feel like
it's um
i forgot who it is it's a a major
preacher but
they've taken like a bunch of music from
nature
and the the residents of the stars and
the planets and they've
they've recorded a lot of the stuff even
like uh you can
you can record the resonance of a tree
and everything is vibrating everything
is making a sound and the resonance of
the tree is
it's like a drum beat it actually ticks
and knocks
so it sounds like a like a metronome
it's on beat and you hear that
song or that rhythm from that vibration
that it's
creating and so they've recorded all of
these things and they put them together
like in a song so they've got like
the music of the spheres which is like
the music that the planets they've
recorded the planets and the sound of
space
and they've even got whales and the
sound of the earth and the
sound of the sun and recording them and
putting them
together to uh create like this symphony
and this song of all creation
what i believe is singing their song of
praise
back to the creator and just you know in
it healing you and it reminding you
and gratitude and awe and wonder to hear
their song and to share in their song as
well have you
checked out any of that i have actually
i
um was reading a book and i cannot
remember the
the name of the book but um to my
understanding
everything every separate entity even
your shoe
has a low vibration to it everything in
the
everything in the universe has some sort
of vibrational
uh interest of its own individual
and i think uh the the best quote from
that book was um
you know god is a song and every little
thing
is a note in that song i thought that
was really powerful because
it basically um you know we we put
intentions into
objects and things like that that can
actually raise its vibrational and
you know if we touch it or or whatever
the case may be kind of like what chris
was saying with crystals it
it doesn't necessarily get activated
until you press on it
um it has some of its own
individual but when you touch it it
creates another thing that sings
more of that note to to the whole song
the the band the band morning star it's
a ministry but they did
like i don't know if you know who they
are but they did like prophetic worship
and stuff
out of uh north carolina morningstar
ministries rick joyner
those guys um i interviewed uh leonard
jones was he was one of the main worship
leaders don potter um
but anyway he had there was a uh they
did this really aggressive
like bethel style before bethel was a
thing
they actually trained up a lot of the
people from bethel have went to their
prophetic school of music and stuff and
so um
one of the things he talks about he has
an instrument the kind of guitar that
has something called
uh sympathetic strings or sympathetic
strings
that when you play like this guitar with
all of these strings
when you play it when when you hit a
note the other
strings that are tuned to that frequency
when they hear
their frequency they begin to vibrate
when they hit when you play that that
chord that tone that note
and it hears it it will start moving by
itself and
vibrating and you're talking about how
the body you know the body is tuned to
different frequencies and you can play
different
notes and and chimes and things to to
activate the body
uh to heal the body and heal the mind
even quiet the mind quiet the body
going into a state of rest um sleeping
with a lot of those tones on as well
it's very interesting
how everything is vibration but then
when you read you find something
someone that you share that similar
vibration with
and uh and in in a spiritual sense you
you know you vibrate you you feel
aligned with god that god consciousness
and you know contemplation and prayer
and getting quiet or dancing being
exuberant and being in that that energy
essence and vibration
um really really interesting
yeah yeah it really is and and one thing
that i've learned
is there is like a a syncopated rhythm
um and it's you know you can like chris
was saying you could have 50 people in
one room and then one person shows up
and they're
they're in a different kind of vibe um
it probably
because the other 50 on a certain level
it could be easier for you
to get syncopated with them if you're
open to it yeah but you can stay closed
off yeah
but like he said you can take the
responsibility as well and and get in
that same bible yeah
yeah i mean you know we used to do a
thing in church or whatever they used to
say like uh
you know find people that build you up
versus people that drag you down and
they did like a little thing of like a
person
standing in the chair and you try to
pick that person standing up on the
ground
grab their hand and pick them up and
with one hand you can't really
pick somebody up one hand unless you're
a freaking you know
hulk or something but um the person on
the ground can easily grab you and pull
you
off of the chair with one hand and so
those that are under you can
pull you down to that lower level and
it's harder to pull them up to where you
are versus being dragged down to where
they are
and um that's one of the kind of things
they they look at
um with the ce5 initiative and james
gilliland talks about and having
like building the expectancy with
something like that the ce5 initiative
is going out into a field and
making contact with uh enlightened
beings
uh on spaceships aliens or in another
dimension however you just
you know whatever um in the vibe of the
the
people like all of the people together
we create a song as well we vibrate with
an expectancy or with a resonance that
the beings can see that we're friendly
we want a sighting versus like
the people are doubting i don't want to
be here why are you making me be here
can we go now like that kind of thing
um even one or two people would
can really like makes it feel you can
feel a disturbance in the force if you
will
and uh that that hold up we're not
everyone's not aligned with the same
frequency of
expectancy and that frequency of
expectancy
your expectation brings about your
manifestation what it is that you
are showing up what is your intention
behind us and how bad
do you want it i mean there's stories
from genesis revelation about how bad do
you want it
and the person is moved with faith and
goes above and beyond and gets the very
thing that they're looking for when the
person next to him they don't experience
nothing
because that person wanted it or needed
it bad enough to to believe for it
and to receive and so um that place of
expectation where all of the people come
together
and expect it we're talking about doing
these uh meditation
uh these massive scale meditations where
everybody is believing and quieting the
mind for a reason and
and the power and effect that it has
when these global meditations happen
and they say the the crime rate drops
now is the
crime rate dropping because they are
pushing out these beautiful vibes into
the planet
or is everybody meditating at the moment
and nobody's out creating
industries but you know you know most of
those people who are going to meditate
aren't people who are out
you know creating crime doing crimes
anyway they uh they've been
doing the resonance uh
checking uh the resonance when they're
doing these whole world meditations and
it is definitely
it's going higher than it it normally
does so we're definitely creating a
higher vibration here on earth when we
when we do that
so i think it's a direct
i think it's kind of like chris was
saying it's our responsibility and
that's
that's kind of what's happening in that
situation is it's
you know because we're all meditating at
the same time in that same frequency
we're able to put out those good vibes
in the world
um so speaking of because me and you're
still building getting to know each
other and stuff
you mentioned like the the the vibration
and the body parts and stuff like that
have you experienced that you know you
you've been a christian and walking with
the holy spirit and stuff like that
but you said you haven't really felt
that those are static
moments is it a deep inner knowing is it
a peace that comes upon you
but not like a full-blown charismatic
kind of thing what has been your
experience with the vibration of
god if you will which is the holy spirit
yeah
for me um it has certainly been uh
music musically inspired and typically
what i find
is depending on what the lineage of the
music is depends on
what vibration that is putting off so i
can listen to some gospel music and
really feel the pain and the suffering
and
but then it turns into a joy and that is
probably when i do
vibrate the most um
so um but then you can also listen to
some
really really you know just heavy metal
music or something like that i used to
listen to a lot of that but it'll kind
of get your anxiety up a little bit
so um so there's definitely those things
that i have started to notice where
okay if i'm listening to gospel maybe my
chest starts vibrating so what is it
you know within those notes and and the
way there's
it sounds different you know and so what
is it about those and
um that's what what my specific question
to chris was is
uh you know if you're able to tap into
these things
and learn your own body's instrument
then
um you know how do we go about those
those types of things and receiving
the information that we need for the
correct vibrations
and your body tells you like we try to
think about it and we try to figure it
out
and your body is sitting there trying to
tell you now just getting the flow and
then we know
you know if any of us are musical or
musicians and we've been on stage
and now all of a sudden the whole band
is just in perfect sync with each other
and you can feel this energy that's just
you know pulsating into the crowd and
then almost
you can be a part of the crowd for an
instant
um yeah those are well i mean just like
again with the expectancy we look at it
as the pastor or jesus or
you know a god amongst men or or in that
energy but we if you look at like a
michael jackson concert
you know and there were girl the beatles
literally they were passing out
and crying oh my god oh my god
you know i mean it was full-blown spirit
from what i'm seeing very similar
you know the i think it's been also what
you've been deprived of
too so you know back in those days
they were deprived of any they were so
structural
that here's this man moving his hips on
the stage like that made all the girls
go like oh my god
you know because they were deprived of
it so but there's also a need
in our body for that stuff and so that
that to me is
you know if you listen to your body and
stop listening to um
what everybody's saying and listen to
your body you can actually start to
start to feel better uh speaking of
songs i want to play this just a
quick sample maybe i won't get copyright
strike but this is a ayahuasca
songs from the peruvian amazon joe
rogans talked about this of like
being in a deep ayahuasca ceremony in
these uh
shamans or whatever the people who are
leading the ceremonies are like
whistling these little songs and singing
these little songs
and joe talks about how you can see like
these little
beings these elves that come out to
repair
repair your dna and your auric field
they're working on you
as these songs are being played but i'm
just gonna play a quick sample
tempo's changing i mean even just that
small change
over tempo
versus ch ch like you know
a chase the heartbeat syncs with that
even if you go into a club and the
music's rolled out to
do eventually your heart syncs with it
your heart starts sinking with that that
that loud bass drum that's hitting you
electrical pulses i think that's uh
that's a great
example of spiritual cooking it's you
know getting it started small
small a little at a time and then as you
start to get warmer and warmer your body
is responding to it yeah
we um just so and we've talked about
this and
we'll talk more but um do you
with and you you've just learned under
some individuals and did some sessions
and stuff like that
do you what are some of the things that
you would do to get started to
to to stir the spirit we call it stir in
the spirit you say cook
cook cook in the spirit especially
cooking uh what would be some things to
to start is is it just to even just
begin to move or begin to chant or
believe in
eyes closed i mean you see all this
stuff happening in churches
you know what i'm saying you see hey man
i know your outside circumstance doesn't
look like it you don't feel like doing
it
but trust me close your eyes lift your
hands give them your all
and then tears begin to then release
happens
and then you're shaking you know what
i'm saying just do it i know you don't
feel like it step out of faith it's not
about your feelings
you know and so you begin to do those
little some kind of a outward motion
and literally in worship to people i
mean i know people do this and
we and remember i was showing you like
some of the kundalini
things to move the energy i know people
in church and they don't even know
they're doing it but they're doing
all of these things worship and praise
and you know and they're zoned out
they're in a trance they're not even
there
you know what are some of the things
that you've heard or have done to kind
of like
start it like kick-start it yeah
kick-starting it um
i think if you're in a really really
spiritually cold place
breathing is probably the best first
thing to do
and we see that all over the place right
and and then
once you uh kind of start getting into
more of the music and stuff like that
um to my understanding would be to close
your eyes
and start thinking about
just moving with the spirit and then
wait
for the spirit to just it may just start
moving you just a little bit
um but um it's ultimately
you don't start moving until it moves
you
and so um don't because you're tricking
yourself
if you if you try to start if you watch
somebody oh man they may be in spirit
and the trance i want to be in the
spirit in the trance and you start doing
what they're doing and you're tricking
yourself into this emotion and to my
understanding to get it
to to start to really dwell inside of
you
is to just be thinking about that and
then waiting for the emotion
perhaps there's something in the song
that's a certain vibration that just
hits you right
and you start to feel it dwell inside of
you
let it to my understanding let it dwell
until it's so much that it starts to
move you
even try to force not moving yourself
um and then it will start to kind of
syncopate
your you'll start syncopating and moving
uh
to start to get at what they would be
calling um spiritually cooked
nice and it goes and it goes in
progressions
too actually the movement the
syncopation movement
is is kind of just explaining okay now
you're starting to get
in the rhythm of of the spirit of god
and but then you'll start making you
heard him start to make a vocal noise
that's actually called
adoption and what happens in adoption is
you're adopting the spirit
um and basically you're using your vocal
tones to now jump into
the spirit even more so that's the next
level you'll start
you heard the guy he was on the thing
you just
you know that is he's not controlling
that he's not doing that that is the
spirit
going in him and vibrating his his
tone to to what the spirit wants him to
do in that moment
um
something a movement that i find like i
don't know much about their doctrinal
beliefs and how
about them but when you read about them
on
wikipedia i've never been to a service
don't know if they still practice it
but the quakers yes this is the exact
thing
and so the quakers had two different
modes of worship
which i think we all do and and one was
a quiet contemplation going
within getting silent but then they had
an aesthetic
praise and uh the trance and when it
becomes
like dancing and moving and and all that
kind of stuff too
so which i love both and i think both
are needed you know
did you click that link i just sent you
yeah so they um
if you'll looked up
yeah i got it here okay i wanna um um
yeah i want to see if that works right
quick extreme
yeah did you get it join the room
okay use your a bit okay i'm in the room
now
okay do you see a video
yes okay cool so what we're gonna do is
kind of
react to this video
and people can watch with us boom boom
boom that's how we do it that's that
technology we're talking about
um so check this out and i don't know if
you know this lady she's caught a lot of
criticism but i've seen many people do
something very similar
uh when it comes to stepping into the
prophetic and getting into that
prophetic unction
this is uh stacy campbell i believe it
yeah stacy campbell
so there i had a meeting
[Applause]
when the holy spirit first fell on david
rush like that
god began to talk to us
about a move of the spirit that would
come
but when we were in our 20s
he said that the greatest move that we
would ever see
would come upon the children behind us
yeah so is that something similar this
is exactly
what you would consider this person is
spiritually
full spiritually cooked and to my
understanding
behind us this
this is basically how you can tap into
first creation this is when adam and eve
were
with god um
before we failed his head
um there's there's a couple um
videos and a lot of them are with like
bethel and
uh morningstar you know i mentioned
morningstar while ago
uh they practiced a lot of this and i've
seen just people naturally i knew people
that
you know i get i get jolts
like like in the spirit like you know it
look
i feel like it looks more dramatic than
it does on camera because when we're
doing our breath work and our deep
meditation i'll
i'll get like blast and get hit in the
spirit and it'll
i'll jerk a little bit but there are
some people who just
now i ha i do fall out in the spirit i
do get that full body rapture but
you know not usually not through just
meditation and breath work unless we're
going really deep
um right but uh i know
i knew people who they just they shake
it they just shake their head and they
just
spirits all over them you know and
they're just shaking their head a lot of
people react to this stuff and call it
demonic
and it's not of god and it's eastern
mysticism and it's shamanic and
which it is all of those things but it
doesn't mean that it is not
of god if as you would say right
yeah that that's uh that's a full-blown
uh spiritually cooked person and and you
know
she can touch someone in that moment and
they will feel the love
of god yes yes they when you're in that
moment you can touch
you can transfer it if they're not ready
they'll
like a lot of pastors that if they're
not ready they'll touch the person they
just fall out
because they're just you know what and
that's probably goes a little bit deeper
into what it says
lay hands on no man suddenly
they have they're not ready to receive
it i've been there there's definitely a
transfer
my elder the dude who led me to the lord
we're begging him to pray for us yes
it's different
when your uncle or somebody else when
this man prays for you
his connection and who he knows who he
is in the spirit
and his connection with god through
intimacy and just knowing who he is
when he prays for you dude stuff happens
like stuff can happen
and i would i just want to touch him
he'd be on the ground crying bro
i just want to touch him because i can
feel it i feel the energy
i just go up to him and cry with him you
know what i'm saying like is this
because it was just a spiritual
experience dude and um
and you it's a transfer you know it's a
mantle if you will can i show you a
video
send it to me and i'll uh i'll put it in
this link here okay
all right send it in zoom and i'll post
it here
all right so there is another one
i'm trying to find another one as well
with this they're playing a gem bay
this is a this is going to be a shaker
church um
all right so um let me type in
and for those of you who were uh
listening i know it doesn't make for uh
the best audio podcast but we're trying
to
find some of these videos and it's
really cool that we can
show them versus having to show them
with uh the screen
share i think i can um
type in hello everyone all right
so okay you got it yeah this is coming
to you now
and this is going to be the saint
vincent church
um
this is about 20 women
okay in a full blown and this let's see
here
i think i have it oh browser experience
required
okay i got i just sent it but you just
said that i must have
pasted the wrong link and these they're
um
there's it's a saint vincent baptist
church um
they are the shakers of um
saint vincent island and they were
slaves
uh originally brought brought to that
island
from from africa and um
spiritual baptist church it says
let's see i think that's correct
i wonder if they're saying real things
man that's the no they're not
no this is this is the spirit doing this
wow see because i get into the
analytical brain because
i told i do this but i try to write this
stuff down and i try to interpret it
like no you can't because as soon as you
get into the
that's the whole thing you come out of
it yeah yeah yeah you come out of it you
gotta come out of it
so she's about to touch her she's
full-blown now
so so what do you think about learning
this recording it and tapping into that
channel do you think that's a one-time
thing and it's just gone after that do
you learn that
thing do we because i can feel it as i'm
doing it now though this is kind of
weird
so what that's crazy is that is adoption
situation and yes
that that is a certain vibrational tone
now but but what's happened is these
this is when they're fully spiritually
cooked they were all sitting down at
first
the one lady gets up and she starts
working
and then all of a sudden she'll start
just yelling
and now everybody else so she's not
doing
but this is like full-blown spirit
and if you can notice they're all
syncopated well if they put their hands
on me i might start screaming
just straight up like when the energy's
moving like that like you definitely
just when i can just feel that you know
watching
and people fall out and stuff so the
reason they're not falling out
is because they've thrown and they've
prepared themselves they've been ready
uh if you if if i were to walk in there
i'd probably pass out
the spirit is that strong
but i feel like i feel like the passing
out also gets you
you get used to it it's like you get
used to that atmosphere
that's an atmosphere you're not used to
what are you gonna do
you're dead you're so you're out in the
spirit he's out he's out
versus being able to stand in it and
soak it up and
still minister in it yeah you know i've
been in i've been i've been in services
like that where i don't
they've they've hired me to come in and
perform and to preach
at a an event and uh and where the
spirit is moving i don't even want to
talk
i just want to bask in it i'm like well
i gotta talk
they've already paid me to talk it's
like so i have to like
you know gain my composure and still be
in it kind of thing you know
yeah and that's the thing man they they
would say to you
don't talk wait till it starts dwelling
so hard
and once you start doing it someone will
respond
there's always a call response so the
the one lady that's
that's ah yeah she's calling
and the response is everybody else
and you know it's it's one of those
things but you have to work
up to that point you know and that's why
i think you and you can think of it as
that being like the full
on spiritually cooked you know and
they're having visions man
these guys yeah they're they're going to
they're having people from all lineages
from from india
from china from uh japan they're
understanding from africa like they
understand the history of mankind
because they're going to the akashic
records every single night before they
go to bed
um and when you get this spiritually
cooked it's basically
the true prayer is what they a lot of
them call it is yeah
you have to bypass i mean it's like
speaking in tongues i mean
yes that's what they're doing speaking
in tongues
they look drunk on the spirit
see how brad is shaking the the white
guy with long hair
he's in the white shirt he's videotaping
all this
he's vibrating
man i'll i'll pay for i'll pay for the
podcast
that's legit
my god dude dude dude
what's she saying i went into a train i
was saying the same thing i wrote it
down
i wrote it down exactly what she just
said yeah
i googled it trying to figure out what
it means this lady is saying
exactly we went into trance sunday
morning
for breath work and i went in
it wasn't long it's recorded i can play
it i can probably sync it up
what she's saying this inakaha what was
it inakaha
uh enoch i googled it hold on let me
tell you
it's a whole language that goes inside
your brain once you
tap into this she might not have said
all all of the syllables but let me see
let me see
it was very very similar let's see
this is what i wrote down okay huh if
you heard what she's saying this is what
i wrote down because i tried to yeah i
google what i
when i get these i try to figure out
what to say a lot of times it translates
to stuff like i
go in and help people get in touch with
the angelic and stuff like that with it
as well and it comes through and
very similar but i'm gonna tell you what
i wrote down
but i just went into the trance as we're
together and you just freaking
you hear it coming but it was uh
dusante
that's exactly what i was saying but uh
but but i added there was more to it
it was dusante
so it was more i know what santi or
shanti means that's peace
kai is the body like these are words
like um
dude they are words this little lady is
saying it's the same thing
yes this is full blown man
[Applause]
oh yeah that's it yes she's saying power
very similar to what's going on in a lot
of churches
um africa voodoo i mean
there's different levels there's
different intentions let's say that
if you're doing like you can do this
same kind of stuff
in the intention of bringing peace and
prosperity help and healing
you know what i'm saying encounter with
god or you can do this same stuff
in voodoo to talk to ancient ancestral
spirits or demons if you will a lot of
times the uh the
the the voodoo is like a um
it's a uh i want to say a knockoff
but it's definitely it's taken from
catholicism
just like satanism is taken from
christianity we're just going to like
create the opposite so
a lot of the the idols and the gods and
things like that a lot of it was was
borrowed from
uh catholicism so you have a lot of that
going on well i'm just saying
these these tools that we've been given
that we are fearfully and wonderfully
made that if we
we can do things and say things and tap
into energies and auras and sounds and
stuff that unlock things within our
brain that allow us to access higher
dimensions
100 and these ladies are in in it and
the interesting thing is
when you record it it's it's weird too
because a lot of times when you record
something like this you have people that
are like
what is this and they're not ready to
receive right
other times someone else can record it
and you can watch it in your
you tap in with them it's like you're
there
yes like you can feel it you may start
crying you may feel things moving
literally if you if we had a we might
even play this at our freaking next
retreat coming up you know what i'm
saying
he has to start it and then we take it
to the next level whatever spirit has
for us i i do believe in kickstarting
right and having like inspiring because
that makes you want to
tap in it'll get you hungry yeah so they
say that there are sacred
songs and things like that that are
meant to stir the spirit i mean it's
there for us
it's it's their partaking just do you do
you believe it
you will no if you don't believe it it
ain't gonna unless it just overtakes you
though
like there's those like it's kind of
weird because like if you don't believe
it you're not going to receive it most
of the time
but if you're open if you're willing i
mean i've heard so many stories though
of the person who is
yes i'm not getting it and god just
breaks them down
yep and they just have a spiritual
encounter
and and they were in their pride they
were but god just
bust through that that that that you
know it seemed like they were
they had this rock or something in front
of them they could be in
where like they'll do that like you're
saying and then they'll be busted into
an
asana like a a yoga pose like it could
be you know with their arms out or
whatever
and that is the pose that you're
representing to receive the spirit
well exactly i mean i just found this
out i didn't even know it i mean i know
that the church practices eastern
mysticism every sunday morning they
would never admit it because they don't
know it even if they knew it they
wouldn't but
there's a mudra and this is the mudra
it's called pushpaputa it's so it's a
it's a
it's to receive downloads ah
you're receiving downloads so when
you're in this trance state and
you're loving the lord sunday morning
god we love you we thank you we honor
you god
you know you're doing these eastern
mudras and
the pushpaputa is it's thought of to
have
a bouquet of flowers that you're even
offering
to the creator to the gods and so you're
offering but you're also receiving as
well
so it's called you can do it with your
hands together and you've seen that or
you see him like this you see him like
that
there's memes about different ways to
praise and stuff and
all of that i love how interconnected
our faiths are and we just don't even
know it we're trying we're working hard
to sep
to be separate you know what i'm saying
to say that this is ours and it's not
yours but well what i've found
um is what happens is people will have
their epiphanies
and then they'll go and create a
religion yeah that's what happened
because then they feel like oh no i've
got to figure it out yeah they'll go
create their own paper god
yeah yep it's us foreign no more and you
got to jump through these
these uh you know um hoops to be one of
us and you got to wear this kind of suit
these kind of clothes you can't say that
word you can't be friends with those
people and say oh
lord really and so you're in just as
much bondage as you were
when you left whatever addiction or
whatever it was you were doing in the
world that you've encountered
it's just as bad is there any more is
there another scene and
i see there's like because actually
three videos came up
um there's a bunch of them
uh if you'll go to his youtube channel
so it seems like one person just goes in
and starts the cadence and everybody
joins kind of thing
everything that i've watched when they
get this spiritually cooked
it's there is the one person that stirs
now this is a christian church too it
looks like i see star david and
is this christian or is this what is
this yeah yeah these
yeah these these would be i guess you
could say
christian but um
but yeah uh i mean dude i mean dude are
they preaching the gospel i mean they
could be a different form
it is the it is the gospel so it would
be it'd be the bible
okay okay you're using the bible that's
what i mean i guess that's what i mean
or new testament he'll say that yeah
[Applause]
it seems like they may be singing a song
right now
yeah and then it just kind of goes into
something spontaneous
much like bethel bethel starts out with
a song and then they
okay after the song we're just gonna
whatever you feel
sing it you know whatever you feel tap
in it's supposed to be random because
there's no
formula for god there's no formula to
get to god it's supposed to be
as random as god is yeah spontaneous
i'm gonna try to find uh this other
video
they've done a lot of um
like people exposing these videos and
saying that morningstar
and all of your churches are or
kundalini they're they've been invaded
by this kundalini spirit you know and
they just don't
you know they made up there's no there
is no spirit by the name of kundalini
people don't even know that you know
what i'm saying so
no it is a holy spirit the holy spirit
is not even a name
because holy just means set apart it is
something different
it is unique it it changes you like you
know what i'm saying it's just
holy is even just a characteristic
we're not even allowed to say the name
of it because if we did we would fall
like we'd break apart
yeah i mean let me see if i'm trying to
find this
certain i think i can find it here there
used to be the original video but now it
just seems to be like um
just everyone like doing um
exposing them and parodies and stuff
like that but
anyway there's this girl at a morning
star conference
um who there she said she has something
she wanted to release in the church or
something
uh she wanted to release something here
it is
but they got all this
they got all of this this writing over
it like i said i don't know what the
original video is
but there's people exposing it like this
is demonic stay away from these people
let's not have god
anyway i'll just play a little bit of it
so they they maybe they're not going to
show up but
the beginning they ask her they say hey
you the lord wants you to release
something you had a word that you wanted
to release
and she says yes and this is how she
began to pray
in regular something that she was really
touched to her core with
and then um
you can't see that can you hold on i
gotta change it to this
there you go you see that right
so lord move among us
all right okay maybe tori's got
something she's going to release
and when this releases it's going to be
like a starting gun
for the ministry time so those of you
who like ministry go ahead and stand up
get in the middle section youth children
those who have been touched by the fire
prepare to minister
yeah he's here
two days ago i saw jesus
opening himself up and walking in our
midst
today the phrase that keeps going in my
mind and in my heart
is that of my deep goes out to his
deep mighty goes out to his deep
two days and she's still like touched on
that
my team goes out to his team
my team goes down
[Laughter]
she's in full bliss
figure out who she is man get it talk to
us man
yeah yeah it's good the church is um
returning to its ancient mystical roots
in which it was birthed and and it's
returning on the backs of many
many giants and many people who have had
encounters it's not
it's not from a might not be from a
pulpit may not be from
an organization with a title but it's
happening with the individuals and with
the people
who are having their own experiences in
their own
mystical encounter with the divine and
with god with christ with jesus with the
holy spirit and like you said me
people even mini saying that they're
meeting the prophets in
enoch and paul and things like that in
the spirit realm or even some people
talk about them showing up in their room
you know uh i think it was bob jones and
um
who no no i may get the names mixed up
so don't quote me on names but i think
it was todd
white who said that after bob jones died
he felt the lord told him to go rent a
room at a hotel for the weekend take a
sabbatical
go to the hotel i got some things i want
to show you
and he goes to the hotel and i may be
off with these names so if i am please
forgive me
but you can google it you'll find up
something very close
and so he goes to the hotel and he sits
down in his chair and he begins to pray
and bob jones his spiritual leader who
had passed away
walks in in the spirit and begins to
teach them the entire weekend
uh from from the other side so this is
uh
you know i read the story um i believe
it was todd bentley
i mean todd white and bob jones not sure
but you
you're hearing these kind of stories a
lot more
back then you know if you would have
said these things
you know you'd have been you know made
fun of and excommunicated and
stripped from your platform and ministry
which is your bread and butter and
you know all of that kind of stuff so
people were scared to talk about it now
people are coming out
and first of all being open to those
experiences by hearing this story
by reading the bible and say wow
this story in the bible makes a lot more
sense because of
what you just told me now when it says
that the spirit prays to you
with groanings and utterances that
cannot be understood
wait wait it wasn't talking about that
it wasn't that it's
it's not that yeah it's something else
come on dude get out of my face it's the
same thing bro
it is and you you're supposed to look as
ridiculous
as you possibly can and we're all so
insecure with our ego yeah i don't want
to look like you can't bypass i mean i
remember
when i was trying to protect you with my
hand up
like and yeah and i look like the stupid
exactly
yeah like nobody could see me yeah oh
yeah it was an act of faith it went but
something
what happened the first time you did it
you feel
that's when you can feel it the first
time when you look at when you look dumb
and when you can humiliate yourself yeah
because remember that's what jesus had
to do he had to humiliate
well it says that god uses the foolish
things of the world to confound the wise
being in a suit and tie and preaching
the word of god like
well listen god you know it is wild
he's going to knock the clothes off of
you yeah make you stand there but booty
naked
listen i've interviewed people and i'm
not vouching for this but i've
interviewed people who have
gotten to these places where they just
they take their clothes off and
at a retreat and stuff you know i don't
vouch for it but that's their story man
and they felt like
spirit was leading them to do it you
know as unashamed and free and
this is how we're created and we
shouldn't be ashamed like i'm not
i probably i wouldn't even be cool with
that you know if somebody is like hey
dude the hell are you doing put your
clothes on man no way
you know time to pay for everything um
but some people have talked about that
you know
yeah i mean well we saw it and you know
if you
if you do believe in the bible i mean
you see it there we were in god's first
creation we were naked
yeah and it wasn't until we lost that
humility
and we didn't close on sorry
yeah and so i'm just gonna ask people in
the comments i mean people are
commenting now i'm reading a couple
people just say it looks weird looks can
be deceiving i think
again like you said i think it is a step
of faith to make you look weird
because you gotta bypass that ego you
gotta bypass it everything's
every anything you do for god's going to
make you look weird
anything you look and i remember i was
telling us that other day at a bible
study
one of the just moving in the prophetic
early on like
i remember being at a um a doctor's
office and i had something going on
and i'm sitting there reading the bible
in the uh waiting room and there's a
bunch of people around and i'm reading
i've got a little green
pocket bible and i'm just reading it
waiting to go back and i felt like i
heard
the voice of god the holy spirit nudged
me and said hey
i had a headache migraine headache and
it was like this isn't yours this is for
somebody
and i want you to speak it out and i was
like no i'm not speaking that out i'm
looking silly who's who
wants to be healed today you know or um
in the lord just working on my my uh
conscious
you got to do it you beg you beg me to
use you you want to be used in signs and
miracles and wonders you need to
you have to say it this is it this is
where rubber meets the road you've been
praying for it i'm giving you something
you're gonna
heal somebody or whatever um and
i said okay i guess i got to so a bunch
of people and i stood up say hey does
anyone
in here suffering from bad migraines
anyone having migraines
in here just random it's quiet gotta
upset it
everybody look at each other no no no
every single person no
sure okay i sat back down started
reading my bible again
that was awkward and god's
and i felt the spirit said no it's so
you got to do it i do it again
and within myself i said well i'm not
doing it again unless you
all these people get out and new people
come in
every single one i'm like talking to the
lord through contemplation
yes meditation inwardly and he said okay
and one by one even out of order
the people came like they were getting
called to the back and someone would
come out and grab the person and leave
because they were just waiting and
but one by one i'm sitting looking like
a it's like a movie
you're gone you're going you're gone
you're gone and i'm kind of like hoping
that like hey
i'm next right you know and all those
people left
and all new people came in wow okay lord
i said it i'm gonna do it i did it again
is anybody here suffering with with bad
migraines i'm just
picking up something somebody's
suffering with bad migraines
little old blood i'm scared i'm nervous
i know i look silly a little old
black lady next to me says i've been
suffering from migraines
i said oh really i said i can feel it i
said i think the lord wants to heal you
today
do you mind if we pray and ask the lord
to heal you and take your migraines i
believe he wants to heal you
sure sure and i prayed with this little
old lady in there
in in the waiting room and she just
began to tear up and
you know god called her name that day
through me
not you know wanting to be used and
you know did she she didn't fall out and
nothing like that but she was she was
moved by that prayer and i think god had
me do that for a reason
and it happened um but
i look silly both times you know um
but i also think that jesus whenever
he spit in in the dirt
and created the mud and rubbed it in
that dude's face
i don't think there was nothing magical
about his spit i don't think there's
nothing magical about that mud or
what concoction would he have been
eating for six weeks that was magical if
that could heal people's blind people no
listen you gotta kill your ego and when
you
move past that ego which is a gate which
is a veil
you step through it you step into the
realm of
limitless possibilities and this person
who needs a miracle who needs i
they need to to see when you step and
you kill that ego you step into it
you're entering that realm so i think
that even jesus is like
hearing from his father spit in the
ground make mud put it in his eyes and
i'll guarantee y'all
i'll heal him but you want me to spit in
this man's eye
rub it in the dirt i'm going to blind
them even worse he's already blind son
don't worry if you do it move into that
threshold
and you'll see you'll see the things
that you you you i've been telling you
since you were a kid
those dreams you've been having about
miracles and signs and wonders
this is it today is your day do it
i believe 100 100 um because
you know i think that's why so many
people are are you know
resulting have are having to result to
a lot of plant medicine now because it
will kick-start killing the ego
uh and put you in that what a lot of
people call it 5d
and you know all that good stuff and uh
you're getting out of this realm
of ego that we built um so
love it um there's a question here gavin
what's up brother i see your comments
man thank you for joining us gavin says
um uh what is your favorite deep forest
song
derek that that is if you have one um
i have a song called good for
good for you and i don't i don't even
like to listen to it
too much because when i went really deep
on my plant ceremonies
psilocybin um
no it's good good for me i think good
for me good
good above above and beyond and i don't
even really listen to it a lot because
it immediately puts me back
into that place of where we were uh in a
place of limitless possibility
um in a place where dreams were
were fulfilled and and and um neural
pathways were created on how to fulfill
them like for me it was very
powerful and my my buddy put this song
on for me so when we
we uh i like to i like to give people i
gift people with this song hey
yeah i hate what song do i listen to
listen to this song
and i've hidden this we talk about
sampling i've hidden this song
throughout my my albums it's it comes
in and out you can barely hear the vocal
here and there like it
means that much to me that i've hidden
these tones and stuff in my music
especially 33.
so it's it's it's good for me by above
and
know you're beyond for me beside me
it's one of them i got many but but
definitely that one
and gavin also says above and beyond
alchemy alchemy's good
there's a couple of them man above and
beyond played a huge role in my life of
getting me there and then
stepping out even their their lyrics
about hey they got another song um
not uh alchemy but um talking about how
the sky
uh you've got to go if you listen to
that song and listen to those lyrics
together when you read it like
it's saying hey it's your time the sky
belongs to no one get out
it's time you've got everything you need
gather your stuff
make a decision pick a pick pick a
direction
take your shot now with your time and
literally when i started doing like
healing sessions and one-on-one
getting paid to do one-on-one sessions i
was scared to death you know
who are you to do this who are you to
charge who are you this
oh man but then we go and create this
beautiful
that when i hear that song it shoots my
expectation up so high
there's no telling me no then we create
this beautiful experience
to like wow i'm glad that i said yes i'm
glad that i was able to facilitate this
for this person this individual who
whatever they experience right and
there's so much different stuff whatever
they're looking for they experience
really but to be able to
set that sacred space up and um music's
powerful man what about you
do you have i talked to this i talked
with head from corn about this our
favorite worship songs that kind of take
us there
do you have any songs that uh take you
there or your favorite
go-to ones i'm a gospel guy
so for me it is jesus is the main line
um
and uh so anytime i tell him what you
want
hey he's on the phone telling what you
want
exactly yeah okay so
like anytime i hear that i just get the
the fuzzies
and if i want to go deeper you know i
can start closing my eyes i can start
you know trying to go into a trance um
you know but it can be to my
understanding as well
some of those some of that stuff can go
stale that's probably why you don't want
to listen to that once
exactly that's exactly why that's why
yeah because it can go
stale and then when it does it's cold
now now but
but in reality where god the way god
intends us to live
is having a song after a song after a
song he wants us to worship him all day
every day of course we got jobs and
stuff like that but
yeah but that's where that's where
contemplation and and meditation comes
in
that you stay in this attitude of what
paul said i'm
been writing about it today pray without
ceasing
you know you're always in this mindful
moment you know
yeah um to even though you're not
worshiping or whatever
i had a guy a good friend of mine just
years ago we were talking about fasting
and we're new to it and we were like
i said dude i feel like god's calling me
to fast music
i'm really i love music i need music
it's part of my life
god's calling me to put it down just to
see if i can just to see if i love him
more
and i'm gonna do it let's do a week or a
day or whatever without music
and the guy said uh he said yeah but
that's that's the only way i worship
and it just hit me oh wow that's the
only way that you communist through
music
it's a huge way but if we think that
that we have to have
music for us to get into that connection
then something something's up god you
know
we every breath is a prayer
contemplation
then what about just prayer and and or
singing your own song versus
listening to an external source you know
so uh
just the the different um you know
levels with
not listening to music or abstaining
from something and
we got formulas is what we're we're
saying you know these formulas and
and so i'm big on not you know not
having those formulas um
because god is in a buddy of mine showed
me it's like
he kind of scared me when he put this in
my head he was when he wanted he was
he discipled me early on but he was like
even speaking of morningstar and how
they're doing those services like that
and like all that static and people are
dancing and worshiping
and i was like man i want to go so bad
man we're in alabama he's like nope you
can't go because if you go
um it'll be stale for you because god
didn't call you there or whatever so
like you're trying to like force
yourself in the situation of a move of
god that's
happening um and it would just be dead
to you you would
you would ruin it he scared me when he
told me that
but he was really talking about the
formula like they have a formula or
the you have to go here to where god is
moving and stuff like that or god
only does this um the formula is in our
head
it's what it takes for you to move past
you know whatever
boundaries you have into limitless
possibility and that's taking a step
past the ego that is a picture of
paul stepping out on the ocean or or is
it peter
peter stepping who was it i'm tripping
now peter right
peter stepped out of the boat who
stepped out of the boat i think it was
peter
i said paul stepping out of the boat and
not sinking sinking
you know that's that step into limitless
possibilities why because he was
steadfast
looking at the messiah who said i'm
calling you
to come and stand where i'm at man yeah
i think that's a
huge one too is if you're trying to get
to this place
and you're worried about how you look or
or how you feel or anything like that if
you keep your eye on jesus
if he's your ascended master i think you
can have many ascended masters
but you know if you keep your eye on
that and try not to worry
the water is our ego you know we'll sink
in it if you start thinking
which is what what peter did
yep i'm just writing this down because
i've been writing today and just i need
to write because i don't want to forget
it
yeah so
stepping past the threshold threshold
into limitless possibility
you're getting the spirit spirits are
speaking speaking through you like
it like the thing about it is it's it's
kind of it's strange and
we have to be spontaneous and where
everything's going to music if
everything's going to
you know but i do believe that there's
places we can we can bring
we can allow people to experience we can
bring them with us again
this lady got there but if i touch you
if you sing the song learn the song this
is what the spirit is saying
you know you can come with me i'm there
but you can come with me and i think
that's big on on
and how teaching should be you know
versus
and how it's supposed to be versus what
it's become with religion and
you know we're going to teach you this
so you got to do that and not be friends
with those kind of people and all that
got into this weird separatism you know
yep yeah i call that paper god
you know you you're you're limiting god
to to that
you know even if it's just the bible you
know and and that's
you're like oh no but this verse says
this or oh no this verse says that
you're kind of getting into an ego thing
there because
yeah you know you got to get to a place
where say hey that verse says both of
those things man
that's where you really got to be
exactly
could you start fighting i was even
listening to you know doing my studies
on contemplative prayer of listening to
richard rohr and he mentioned that like
to stay in that place of mindfulness and
contemplation
you got to stay it's mindfulness i'm
staying there i'm in communion with the
father i only do what
i see the father doing what jesus said
um but when you get into debating and
finger pointing and i'm right you're
wrong hey
you you put you're out of that you're
pulled out of it you know you're in the
moment you're dissecting and debating
which there's a time for that for sure
you know what i'm saying yep
it is that's pulling you out of the
moment now if you can do that and be in
the moment
and be in that flow state like
that's the key right there yep
so um chris g says uh
i always thought david hogan's noises
were kind uh spiritual in nature
yeah he well it just depends on what
noise is because i never heard him in
prayer but i heard his he
yell a lot hey holy ghost
like even when you say certain things
mannerism is connected to something
really deep down in you
and even with that hey that's that's
something that's happened in a lot of
churches in the
charismatic movement that got really
weird as people would
feel that that you might just was
talking about getting hit with the
spirit and i could feel it and it would
like make me jerk or whatever
like some people would do that say oh
hey
they'll yell when the spirit they get
that little hit
and um it's like a joke like somebody
poked you with a whoa
you know and that would be going on in a
lot of churches even today like people
if they feel they resonate with
something and it hits them deep down to
their core
they yell hey um even uh
jesus culture in their early music
uh the the chick was was screaming that
hey you hear those weird laughters and
haze and stuff that were actually in the
recordings you know
yeah you hear all those uh anytime you
hear those weird laughters
giggles screeches yeah you know
they that's why a lot of people think
that they're possessed is because
they're yeah
um so chris also says here it says
always start or
the other one uh y'all i'm trying
i find making weird noises word
words all the time maybe works all the
time uh also humor in the mix is
spiritual
for sure there is there is humor but
and you talking about those screeches
and different animal noises and stuff
it can look weird i mean let's cause
we're getting
into uh toronto i don't know if you
followed and did the research on the
toronto blessing but they literally
they got real far out you know i think
there is balance with all of it and who
knows where the balance is because you
it's kind of hard to say it so but they
were
they were um we had this one lady me and
my wife do it as an inside joke but
there was
this one lady who at meetings with
chinese ladies she'll say
haha lord little chinese lady ha ha lord
and me and my wife just do it and just
kind of it just reminds us you know what
i'm saying of that lady and her love for
god and
what we were experiencing there but the
toronto stuff
would go they start barking they say if
you love the lord
and somebody gave a testimony they said
do you love me enough to bark for me
now it sounds very similar to my
experience do you love me enough to
or do you love these people enough to to
look like a fool and say hey who has a
headache you know
um but do you love me enough to bark for
me
and someone said yes sir i'll bark for
you lord and the lady started barking
doing a little howling and all that and
uh and then it became a thing
and everyone it became a formula yeah
and everyone's barking and it got it got
so bad to where like they were
the lord is my shepherd and he leads me
and stuff and people are crawling on all
fours
with their with leashes on they got real
weird and this is the toronto like azusa
street type
the toronto blessing where that lady
with the shaking head like all those
people
kind of came out of that or were
influenced by that these other revivals
are kind of influenced
i don't think that they're necessarily
bad i love that stuff that is
that is that's where we come from that
is in our dna and when you tap into
those dormant places in your dna
that you remember listen breakthrough
happens you you find out who you are
but the bark like a dog thing uh i think
i feel like you can stay in that too
long just as
god is moving with the israelites and
like hey i'm doing this this week i'm
doing that i'm doing that
i'm not teaching that no more follow me
you have to be able to move in the wind
of the spirit where god
is leading uh to not have a formula
you know what i'm saying what would you
say to the bart like a dog crawl on the
floor lead us like a
you know putting leashes on it got real
weird that's video of all that stuff
um if you research the kalahari bushmen
these guys do stuff like that and they
are going in
and doing this syncopated worship every
single night
around the fire and um
you know they're the they're the oldest
tribes still alive in the world today
and what they say in order to open up to
the spirit
is you have to joke and play jokes on
each other and humor is a huge part of
it so like all day they're just playing
around like kids with each other
grown men you know like playing pranks
on each other and stuff like that
crawling around just doing crazy stuff
and then but at night
you'll have the leader come in and then
as soon as he claps
it's like poo the whole thing changes
like the whole
environment changes and then they'll
start stomping on the ground with the
rattles on their leg
and one person will start second
personal start and a third person
and then it gets kind of serious kind of
like what we were watching with the same
saint vincent quakers um
you know it it kind of gets to where
everybody's doing the same thing
but you got to do something so silly at
first
because your ego tries to
create a formula and it's just that you
can't you can't do it you've got to get
you got to get creative with this stuff
so they do say you know humor and
and that gets you in that place of
humility i guess
yeah yeah i mean this the scriptures
also say that you know to the uh
to the greeks it's foolishness
because it's more philosophical and what
i can prove and
and to the the jews is a stumbling block
because they're already beloved and
accepted of god and you're telling us we
need something outside of ourselves that
kind of thing
uh the gospel and so um you know when
when you have something that's so so
that is
the foolishness of the world to win them
god
chose to use those things uh
you know stepping out of that formula of
what you learned paul even talks about
having
uh not even having wisdom of words
because being greek and being
philosophical is definitely
wooing you with my words you know what
i'm saying
maybe it's a part of me there with my
music is to woo you with these words but
there's
but that is only to make you go back to
the demonstration that paul spoke about
that i come not with the wisdom of words
but with
power and demonstration for me it's what
those words are tied to
to make you ask and and take that step
out of the boat kind of thing
but not with philosophy
philosophy is beautiful we like to break
this stuff down uh eternal truths but it
is with a demonstration of the spirit
and i think
that you know those videos were
demonstrations
of the power of the spirit and power of
at least
demonstrations of power are people who
are connected to the spirit
that's what i want i don't know
and again one of my other you know guy
who just let me do to let me to the lord
is
listen derek i know you know
we go to church every sunday and you
don't remember any sermons you might
remember one or two but any time there's
a move of the spirit
yes you'll remember every single one of
them probably to the day that
you die yes and um you know it's just
right you know you you be
listen teaching's good equipping is good
we need it
um but for an expectation to come about
what happens
after which is usually a move you know
what i'm saying or before you know so
but he was right you know for sure yeah
yeah i mean there's a big and some
people are
already suffering so much maybe they
don't need the humility because you know
they could have a certain disease or you
know so their ego is not there they need
to be healed
you know and so they'll bring these
people in and they'll get all in a
circle around them
and they'll start getting stirred up and
then
um you know kind of like whenever you
were
in the situation when there was the
adoption of the spirit um
you know you would just try to get next
to him while he was
so adamant in trying to help you kind of
break through that that barrier break
through the veil of eco
is really all it is yeah again just like
being transferable like me
wanting to go pray with that guy who's
tapped in and
um i've been that person who's been
tapped in you know and just
having a deep encounter and then you
know you get to take
other people with you they can feel it
dudes they told me we had this encounter
i seen jesus with my eyes closed it was
freaking bright light just
i'm screaming i'm screaming like it's
crazy and uh
they were buddies were holding my hand
we were praying a circle three of us
holding hands praying and days like i
jumped i
shot back and i'm just i'm in a trance
dude for sure and um they were like dude
we didn't want to let your hands go
because we could feel the energy
coming off of you this burning fire and
this we like
created like a like a like a circuit
like a conduit of this
energy too because we're holding hands
and i'm like
and we're in that place of we literally
even when it comes back to
seeing of what it was for us because we
were like trying to make something
happen with the formula and nothing
would happen
we're like listen we're going to give us
we're going to seek the lord tonight
we're going to go in for ourselves when
we did it
nothing happened did it now it's kind of
dry i was like you know what
we ended up putting on some prayer from
like africa like these kids praying and
receiving the holy spirit people
in whole in africa getting the holy
spirit and it's different it looks a
little bit more
um you know ancient looking and sounding
but it was the holy spirit right
and we put that on and then um
we just i said guys let's listen to this
let's pray in the spirit and let's just
go in and let's just start
you know confessing things getting
things off of us and we just it just
began to move
you know we begin to sway with the
prayer with the music and then it was
just like
all the way in you i don't know you
can't you can try to make it up i think
that um
um just just wanting it really you know
and waiting to waiting is a big name of
the game
don't make it don't make it just wait
until it burns
so much inside of you and then and then
even start just imagining
being moved by the spirit don't even
start with actually moving because
you'll
you'll find yourself you're trying to do
it still it will
take over it will take over
yeah we've been a part of some really
cool things in the past and i just want
to
i want to be able to facilitate those
things for people in the future and
um you can't change that man somebody's
encounter somebody's experience with the
divine like
you take that you take that with you
forever you know and it changes you
again i mean you you'll hear sermons
that cut you and convict you and you
remember them but
as far as like an encounter with it with
the living god
you know through whatever you know what
i'm saying there's many different ways
for us to experience god god is in
everything
learning his song we experience him but
um
you can't put a price tag on that man no
you can and you know
you can you can go in and kind of like
you said you
we can go to these you know hear these
sermons or whatever
well i think those are for after you've
truly experienced this stuff
because that's whenever god will start
sharpening you
don't try to go do this and go do that
to be perfect
and then go do this oh i need to stop
doing the if you're an alcoholic oh i
need to stop drinking alcohol in order
to receive the spirit no sir
wait for it to hit you and then what god
will do
is he will i he iron will sharpen iron
at that point you'll
want to start with a question a lot of
times that when you when you receive
that fire it burns that out of you
it does yes excuse me and then you know
you have to know you have to i think you
have to create don't be too hard on
yourself but i think you have to make
those
you know let you know that i can't
i can't continue in both you know what
i'm saying people do it all the time
and they're but they're double-minded
it's not the way to go it's not the way
to work with energy it's not the way to
be open and honest and let energy flow
freely
to you and through you uh but people do
it all the time
and i don't think they're i don't think
they're they're in inner life their
inner man is benefiting they're
miserable people but
um right you know let just let yourself
know but but again you can't be too hard
on yourself because people
you know we talk about it like they'll
they'll just listen because i drink i'm
not going to pray anymore or because i
drink god doesn't love me
or whatever like whatever it is that is
your hang up you know what i'm saying
like
um just know that when you get into that
place for me again that's what allows me
to to stop i can't stop anything on my
own i wouldn't need god i would have
stopped a long time ago i would have
been
i would have perfected myself a long
time ago but i need
you know that that experience or i need
that connection i don't even need an
experience the experience are just
blessings but
to know who i am and i'm fearfully and
wonderfully made and i'm connected with
a god that loves me
and wants to commune and communicate
with me through everything
through all music through all people
through all
you know through diet through you the
stars man you know you name it bro god
is speaking through
everything and it's up to me to to tune
into that frequency like that quartz
crystal to see if i can hear
and see if i can project as well you
know
and and to share that that experience
with others and
i can can and i am and that's what we
ought to do
yep absolutely um bro uh
this is like an almost like an official
podcast with me and you were talking
about
you know doing one in a couple weeks but
this is a good good one this is right up
my
alley and as long as you're getting your
notes together on this stuff we're going
to have another good talk man it'd be
cool get your video even
get the videos and presentation and dude
it builds the expectancy you know yeah
to want to do it i will um
definitely have it all laid out more
more organized
but uh it's some pretty powerful stuff
here
for sure man um enjoyed it enjoyed uh
disassembly don't do no disassemble with
chris and talking about
to him about his music and stuff and
that dude's that dude's cool i liked him
we had to have him on again when he's
not having internet connections so
but um do you have anything to plug if
anybody wants to follow you
uh check out what you got going on what
you're working on this you still
we're still getting ready to launch
right now yeah i'm still working on all
my stuff
now it's in preliminary stages but he is
a member of the mystic circle so if you
want to meet with him on the mystic
circle
you can go there and he's gonna i'm sure
be a be a presenter or a teacher or
all that good stuff too have a leading
his own stuff there
so jesse is there so
yeah um any any
last words any last regards in this show
on
uh keep the vibes up
that's it um they were wanting to know
again for the the music somebody was
asking me to share
links but just let people know where
they can go to find those
those links of the that uh that spirit
moving in that church or whatever
yeah so um there's a bunch of them
actually and i would highly recommend
uh going to their youtube channel to
uh kind of see a lot of this stuff
and it is uh let's see it's the kenny
center
and the way you spell kenny is
k-e-e-n-e-y
that's the name of their youtube channel
and it basically goes into
many different uh you have sound sacred
sound
soaks so you know a lot of people do
these sound immersions and things like
that so they use that and then it goes
into the history of
uh why people shake and and stuff like
that and why that is actually
uh you know that that means you're in
the spirit and you're able to
you know speak to god directly and he
speaks to you directly
what's his first name again i'm not i've
got it pulled up on another page
bradford bradford yeah and he's in new
orleans you said right
he is in new orleans yeah i gotta i
gotta link room with those guys
good stuff yeah go ahead
yeah no there's a it's um it's it's the
wife as well they're both always
together
so um and her name is
i think it's elizabeth if i'm not
mistaken
good stuff brad and hillary hillary yeah
hillary bikini center one word
sacred aesthetics setting your soul on
fire
good stuff all right brother we'll do it
again soon and we'll talk soon and um
but so thank you everybody for watching
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working on some courses and stuff too to
upload as well so with that let's say
peace and shalom we'll do it again