Open Lines and Patron Hangout | TruthSeekah Podcast | 12/10/2020
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what's up guys excited to be here do
this hangout with you we're going to do
an open Q&A anything that you guys want
to talk about uh we are open to do so um
so I got a guest supposed to join me
here in a little bit uh Prophet Calvin
Witch is supposed to be on today so
we're waiting for him to join but until
then we're going to do a hangout man
hang out with the chat and uh the
patrons and all that cool stuff so uh
anything you want to ask no subject is
off uh limits and I'm be watching the
chat watching the patron uh patreon side
of it and uh we'll hang out man whatever
you guys want to talk about we'll do it
Community Day this is what we do uh I
want to say a huge thank you uh to
everybody who is supporting my work via
patreon everybody who believes in this
podcast and who has partnered with me uh
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uh to me to keep doing this at the level
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you know we're about to make a lot of
upgrades a lot of things are about to
happen and and taking this stuff to the
next level that I've been working on uh
with the podcast so uh here in the next
couple weeks we're in a transition
period right now about to get a new
house a new studio a bunch of new stuff
coming in and so as soon as we make that
transition you guys will be able to see
all of the upgrades so if you guys can
see some of you have commented on the
the backdrop and thinking that I was
already in the new studio because it
looks different behind me um this is
just the same studio with
um the wall stripped of the posters
everything else is still here putting
everything in boxes getting ready to
move so we're not there yet but we are
about to get this new place and new
studio super excited about where we're
going so couldn't do it without your
help thank you guys for partnering with
me some of you guys who have been with
me for years grinding this out man you
guys mean the world to me and so I just
want to say thank you every episode uh
from the bottom of my heart and some of
the new patrons within the last week or
so I'm going to give a shout out to
brother Andrew Mendoza thank you for
coming on Scott rman uh Scott rman comes
and goes he's a good friend but on
patreon he comes and goes anytime that I
release new music so if I'm constantly
putting out music he's constantly here
but when he leaves and I put out a new
song he'll join to get that music so
shout out for uh to Scott Jamie Rutman
for uh always you know supporting the
music aspect to it he don't he could
care less about the podcast but the
music so shout out to to him and uh and
all that good stuff so uh shout out to
April Hannah so I just interviewed her
the other day her and uh Mike habber and
that's the last podcast that we did was
really good they own path1 tv.com which
is a streaming service a streaming app
for Spiritual and esoteric metaphysical
meditations all that kind of stuff and
they came on the other day and she gave
a word she heard me do my opening you
know monologue and said that she was
going to sign up for patreon as soon as
she got off and she did so I find that
really cool that other uh podcasters and
and professionals out there who come on
and do a talk with me and then join my
patreon right after so uh you know I had
to talk with Alex sakaris from the
skeptical podcast really big podcast and
he did the same thing soon as we were
done he joined and and been supporting
ever since so shout out to all of you
guys who are supporting and shout out to
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a really good session last week probably
do something similar this week just
tapping in through breath work and
prayer and meditation
and then coupling that with some
beautiful worship music um which has
been awesome man so we had a good good
time last week and already getting
people hitting me up this morning
looking forward to it tonight so we're
going to be doing that tapping in to the
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so much more coming uh we're going to go
ahead and jump into the chat here shout
out to everybody hanging out with us
live we got a bunch of people already
like I said uh one of the things that
you get by becoming a patron is now we
are opening up the ability for you to
call in Via zoom and hang out and ask
questions and uh ask the guest questions
and and be on live with me when we open
that up so that's one of the things that
we're doing now and so you get access to
that by becoming a patron
um we used to take phone calls but the
thing about the uh um phone calls is
that you get a lot of people calling in
and screaming or cursing or whatever the
case is a lot of prank calls and a lot
of trolls and stuff like that so uh it
you know I had to put up with it tried
to do it but you know you guys abused it
I don't have a call screener so we have
to you know have this different level of
a wall that you have to get through so
for a dollar you can become a patron and
join the hang out and ask questions all
that good stuff so anyway uh make sure
you get access to that um
and I remember um Gothic Mystic went
live for a prayer a prayer call the
other night and uh he had a bunch of
trolls jump in his Zoom because it was
just open to the public and they were
just kind of trolling him and acting
like they were speaking in demonic
tongues and stuff so you know to cut all
that out you know we're trying this so
if you want to hang out want to ask some
questions make sure you join you get a
bunch of cool stuff uh I'm going to go
ahead and bring my friend in who's
already here we're going to jump into
some chat and and and answer questions
so you guys roll ideas and questions for
myself and whoever's hanging out in here
but I'm going to go ahead and bring in
my friend um Mark Sion fire who's here
for the hangout good friend of mine
brother Mark s fire welcome to the
podcast bro what's going on hey it's
good to be on here I'm usually catching
your thing after the fact so it's cool
to hang out live with
you yeah this isn't this isn't official
and uh we're going to do an official uh
podcast where we really just you know
what I'm saying showcase your your
talent your work and what you're
bringing to the table we'll do that uh
here in a couple weeks and so um because
I I believe in the work that you're
doing and uh you know I really love your
heart so we'll have you on as a official
guest here soon but uh part of the
hangout man thanks for for thanks for
all the support publicly for being a
patron and supporting this and you know
you're signed up in the in the course
that we got going on the path of the
Healer and um H how's that been working
out for you man it's it's been awesome
to celebrate victories with everybody
dude so how's that like been working for
you
maybe a second semester or second second
group you bring in if anyone's thinking
about it I highly recommend it um it's
been just super activating like a lot of
great practical stuff but I think what's
more powerful is um just kind of the
energetic work the inner the inner work
when you go to put yourself out there in
some of these ways all that um that
internal stuff can come up all those
doubts and everything so I really like
the way you kind of walk us through that
and uh deal with the inner stuff first
that we can kind of succeed with some of
the more practical stuff so it's been
hugely um just a huge activation for me
uh really cool so I appreciate it just
just really quick like what do you have
like that you're working on cuz you know
what I'm saying with your your music and
live streaming and things like that that
you have planed to drop just so people
can be expecting it yeah um man I got so
many different ideas I think what I'm
most question about right now
is the musical event so people can just
kind of hang out sort of a an online
Sacred Space with um some music for
getting getting there getting in the
Trans State and then hopefully some
healers standing by to just to hold
space with people who join in and yeah
hopefully just like a real deep musical
meditative uh experience with spirit so
yeah it's coming soon man we should uh
we should do that Sunday night man we
should uh you know let you lead it and
we all go live and take turns
prophesying and praying and doing energy
work and stuff live I'm ready I'm ready
to uh to step out and and do it with you
man sweet yeah let's do it for sure um
let's see here we got a bunch of
questions already in the chat so it's my
first time trying to manage all this
stuff really do need a producer but you
know I've trained myself to do a lot of
stuff at once but uh so we got we got
Mark with us and uh I got Tina and and
Dave as well let's see if they want to
come in as well and hang out Tina and
Dave Dave's in his car um putting stuff
together what's up
Dave you I think you're still muted I
have to an Tina what's up hey what's up
brother good to see
you good to see you
guys right on right on yeah looking
forward to the show man yeah wait if it
happens you know we're hanging out you
know doing our thing and um just
spending time with the community and
asking yeah so wait waiting on uh um the
guest to join but um yep and you know I
know you you was in the chat um
yesterday with Jeff's uh podcast that we
did and we was talking about the The
Chiang man and I remember you sent me
those videos and I really been enjoying
it dude for sure yeah right on and you
know you said you went back to the same
guy so I looked at the link that I sent
you and it was somebody else oh that
that had a uh that had a YouTube
subscription that played his video so if
you go to Lee Holden okay you can get
his site and he's got a bunch of videos
that you can choose from that are up Tod
date the one that I sent you was uh four
years ago but yeah yeah he's he does a
great job of uh breaking it down to a
simple form I really enjoy him yeah um
again like I was talking about like you
know we do like a lot of aggressive
breath work and tapping into the Trans
State and connecting with spirit with
this aggressive breathing and stuff but
the really soft movement and soft breath
was was really beautiful as well to tap
into so it was something different for
me and then it has the movements as well
so I I really enjoyed it yeah right on
yeah I think it's been helping me with
not I guess stress it would help with
stress but like anxiety and depression
and stuff like that you know just like
just part of doing the inner work man
you know making sure you spit spend that
you know me time before you just really
you know hit the day head on you know
and get lost in your work like starting
your day with that means the world you
know yeah there's a thing that he does
even even at night before I go to bed
sometimes I'll have uh you know a bit of
conflict throughout the day with one of
my kids or my wife but he'll do this
thing where he washes it down you know
and puts all the negative energy into
the Earth to to re I guess reform it
into to Golden Light so I I take that on
as like okay you know all things are
working for good to those who love God
or called according to his purposes so I
think about that I'm like okay maybe I
had this negative interaction but you
know I'mma Let It Go and I'm G trust
that that God the universe is gonna do
something good out of it and hey man you
know I look forward to uh reconciliation
after that so yeah yeah it's cool really
enjoy the movement medit
well I did I didn't plan this but but
Dave is in our program too Dave's one of
the students going through the program
as well man so you know how's it working
out for you man how are you liking the
uh path of the Healer program I I am
really enjoying it I I feel like I'm in
a position right now where I don't need
to start a business I don't need to to
get cold hard cash right away so I'm
taking more of the slower approach and
I'm applying it more to my family
situation and I'm I'm noticing a lot of
growth a lot of healing um I I've been
given a diagnosis of bipolar one and uh
our family has face some uh some
traumatic events so me just being able
to slow down be grounded uh be patient
with them apply the course to again
healing in my own personal life and in
the lives of my my wife and my kids I've
been married 17 years and to have
bipolar or given be I don't like to say
I have bipolar disorder but giving this
diagnosis and staying married is is a
feat in and of itself because it is very
tough on the family um so learning to
balance my own energies amazing and uh
learning to just you know have the have
a connection with uh the community and
talk openly about healing methods is uh
is is just great very very thankful for
this dude I I'm just celebrating
everybody's victories with them man and
uh and even the people who are like you
know they haven't been as vocal about
what they're working on and then they
just boom here's my website here's my
services I'm doing raiki I'm doing
energy healing it's like oh wow like V
put out her website yesterday and it's
beautiful and she's offering services
and stuff and just seeing everybody step
out man it's just super encouraging that
you know we're like training equipping
and sending people out you know what I'm
saying like it's what it is yeah so for
me I'm like I'm like likeminded a lot a
lot of these things that everybody's
learning I feel like the spirit is
teaching me as well and although I'm not
like diving in right away I can
celebrate these successes because for me
it's about the message you know as far
as the message getting out then I get to
see my community change I get to see the
world change around me I feel like all
right I'm partnering with spirit and
amazing things are happening man so it's
cool yeah yeah I mean there there were
people who started and I think you went
into it I think head first like knowing
that or thinking that you were going to
you know start a business and kind of
move out that way and and I was letting
people know that even if you you weren't
planning on doing that it's still
applicable like obviously the inner
healing and dealing with doubt and
blockages and and whatever it is that
you're called to do how to pray how to
see in the spirit effectively and and
and you know to to be mindful in
conversations like it you know what I'm
saying no matter you know what you're
trying to do moving forward whether you
want to be a quote unquote you know
healer that offers one-on-one sessions
or whatever like it's the information is
still applicable for every
everybody yeah right on man well I'm uh
I'm here at my mom's property and I got
to put in a uh faucet so I'm gonna I'm
gonna listen to you guys I'm gonna turn
off my video but it's great to connect
with you I I'll I'll stay on all right
all right Dave love you bro yeah thank
you for all the support and just so
everybody knows we're going to do a uh
we're going to do a podcast with Dave
too like you know we're gonna we're
going to sketch that First of the Year
Dave will be on sharing his story and
his breakthroughs and stuff first of the
year too so love you bro looking forward
to love you too brother yeah take care
and and just so you guys know I did I
didn't set this up I didn't like message
these people but now we got uh Brandon
Higgins who's joining and uh he's in the
he's in the program as well Brandon what
up
man okay his audio is connecting let's
see Brandon Brandon ask to unmute you
should be
good Brandon what up boy what's up bro
he's in the podcast I mean he's in the
the program too what up bro what's going
on how you enjoying it man because like
when I was talking about like people
going through the information and all
that kind of stuff like um you know
people who weren't signing up to to be a
a energy healer you know what I'm saying
you came into it like not thinking that
you were going to do sessions but I
think you're I think as we progress
you're kind of moving a little bit
closer to
that
right um
I enjoyed it very much so man been
learning that's what's up where you at
now uh Mark says nice crib man you at
the crib you I mean you had uh you at
the Bair mansion in the back you
know yeah I'm at um I'm at work right
now
man pretty nice a yeah yeah I I might
take a dip if I was working there for
those who are listening he's in he looks
like he's at the Bair Mansion there's a
amazing pool and amazing house in the
backyard just chilling it kind of looks
like you're about to tell us about your
Lamborghini and how we can like make
that kind of money
to yeah that's why I need you to do the
testimonial at Brandon awesome when you
do a testimonial for the uh for the
program I need you to be there with that
in the
background yeah hey that'd be nice huh
yep so uh
go ahead you already know uh the class
is dope man it's uh I've been learning
so much you know becoming more intuitive
and
connecting you know is a it's a big help
you know what I'm saying like even
though I don't know exactly what my
purpose is but it's it's helped to
change my life you know what I'm saying
what's up want to put that out there yes
definitely help you to discover that and
uh different Outlets too Express what
you already know and stepping into it
but yeah um and you'll be here this
weekend for the uh Retreat as well
right yeah I'm
uh meeting up with a dude you connected
me with um in route tomorrow so did you
talk to him like come to work at the
other
place yeah yeah yeah yeah I talked to
him and
I'm so we're supposed to meet like on it
10
somewhere nice yeah Chris mois was a
good guy for
sure awesome to uh set up the
connections I remember last time
um we had two I think it was the time
before the last but we had two guys
literally drive from 30 minutes apart
from Georgia and they drove like seven
hours each and they were literally like
30 minutes
apart and you're 30 minutes from them
too right y'all all hooked
up yeah I haven't met jav but I have
definitely me and Jeff we we're pretty
close okay you haven't met jav yet
yeah no I never met him in person
but me and Jeff are really close I
talked to him today that's what's up
yeah love Jeff he's a good guy for
sure for sure for sure well let's jump
into some of these
jump my view man yeah it's nice dude for
sure that's I can't complain about that
dude the View's awesome and you were
talking about you showed me some
pictures I don't know if that's the
house maybe it's a different house but
you were showing me like some of these
houses that you you do work on um there
was a bunch of like ancient relics in
there these little statues and these
little idols and stuff that look like
they from like you know like a thousand
years old or something some crazy is
that the house that the stuff was in no
I'm going there
tomorrow like before I get on the road I
got to go do some work over there
tomorrow so
what was that those those little statues
all right so it's kind of like it's set
up like a almost like a labyrinth you
know what I'm saying like it has a
little hallway on the outside of the
house it has a
moat like water that actually runs
through the house dang and it's um on
the outside but on they have walls and
you walk through and that's a little
spot I showed you they had like some
stool set up right across from it but
I'm like yo I don't know if they praying
or something or whatever they doing but
it's there that's
cool yeah I mean yeah it's dope OTE
inside that's what's
up that's what's up all right let let me
read somebody these comments here and
see if uh anybody wants to well we got
some more patrons hanging out I got
another guy coming in I'm going go bring
him in but let's go through some of the
comments
here um Thor Anonymous says by the way
Derek uh you know who I am through the
Christ consciousness Facebook group what
up man shout out to you shout out to
everybody already hanging out in chat we
got a bunch of people on here already um
what's up Ferman Vanna says how's the
music coming music's coming along great
uh constantly working on new stuff and
um got some some some different sty
stylistically different music coming out
too some chill hop working on a uh some
cover songs too so excited about all
that she's on here smiling cheesing
sheill The Observer out in
India how do you just keep popping up
every time I say the name of Jesus bro
like it's just so
weird how are you man all right anyway
I'm great bro uh I'm a bit like um to
quote babam Das um is a beautiful Jew um
who came to India and kind of
became a devote of a monkey uh person
right and then he said to see God you
got to have like special eyes you know
cuz like you know because once you see
it you can't bear the shock because it's
gonna get you what does two say about it
paralyzed was it was that what
say yeah all right listen I testify for
you bro I have a question for you okay
are you a good person
when I'm
asleep all right see see that's that's
real okay that's real I'm not a good
person I don't think I don't oh you're
you're great you're great you're no
you're great I love you man there's but
one who is good and that's God I'll tell
you what I'll tell you what you got the
butterfly syndrome okay now you know
what the butterfly syndrome is butterfly
syndrome is where a little moth goes
around flying right and it keeps like
getting like looking at all the other
butterflies going like hey that's so
pretty I wish I was a butterfly but it
feels like it's a freaking M you know
you got butterfly syndrome you
know yeah man you're awesome I testify
for you hey love you too man means the
world hey I know I might not share it I
might not comment but I see all your
videos man I do and I see all your
comments I know I I know man I can see
you look at me to see looking back me
see looking back at you all right anyway
I tell you I'm I'm going to make a video
called the pitfalls of Fame and thank
you for holding space are you gonna Fe I
swear to God thank you for probably you
know because I was asked if I was like a
paid uh I was asked if I was paid by a
truth seeker and I'm just like well
maybe he should send me some stickers
you know because I'm just like I
genuinely believe that he's like the
best rapper on the earth and shoot shoot
me
I tell you what yeah I I will definitely
shoot to my address here posters
stickers postcard here's something funny
all right here's something funny now um
okay this is really come on man just for
the sake of truth right in the name of
Jesus Christ in the name of Jesus Christ
spare me spare me 30 seconds now look
say right this dude I swear to God I
gave him like I was like okay let's do
three things right let's do affirmations
cuz he's got some [Â __Â ] up belief
systems
you know and the second one
is and the second one is chill the [Â __Â ]
out right and the third one is top the
charts so would you say this to the L I
mean come on you know and I told him
like dereck's still my number one right
and he's like that broke my heart dude
I'm like you're not chilled out enough
to be my number one bro like dere's
chilled out maybe like do a meditation
with him you know anyway n everybody has
their own way man L is amazing love you
bro thanks for hanging out with us yeah
Lok is amazing dude for sure uh oh um
everybody has their own way of doing
things bro like I don't you know I honor
Lok and uh I love you guys I love you
guys L and Truth together is God it's
like the greatest the greatest
combination ever we've never let you
equals bless you right we've never let
you down yet on a on a feature so me no
I definitely enjoy working with so mute
me now mute me now mute me now chill me
out hush up yeah let me respond to that
I love L Saint man L is a a beautiful
individual and uh we're on very much the
same level and uh I like to see him um
step out even more with a lot of healing
work obviously he does his healing
through his uh his music which is there
and um I think there is a time to rage
out on the on the uh government man you
know like he's definitely anti you know
New World Order and I went through that
you know maybe he's just now going
through that you know what I'm saying as
far as his music but I'm with you I love
lok's spiritual music cuz when he really
gets in there to drop spiritual
knowledge you know and he's chopping
with it the way he does listen he's one
of the best spiritual MC's out there I
don't I don't try I don't listen to a
lot of aggressive you know you know
anti-government music I used to but um
shout out to Lok and I I love everything
he's doing that opens him up to reach a
bigger audience who are into that kind
of music and then they find his
spiritual music so I mean I definitely
see that happening too so shout out to L
Saint what you need to talk to L Saint
about is coming on the podcast I've been
trying to get him on ever since we've
been friends and he's got an amazing
story so that's where you need to holl
at him but love you bro um L saying is
amazing for everybody who knows the the
songs that we've done together they've
been amazing I I love all of our
features
um Chris says I was watching 1950s
What's My Line see the instruction okay
let me see I'm trying to go to the the
chat we got so much so many people
commenting right now um people saying
shout out to
Sion
um any of you guys you guys know who LS
is um you guys know who l s is
right now I do you said now now you do
do
now no I know I know I got a uh he sent
me a USB
nice um let's see I'm G try to go
through some of these comments here I
know it sucks for dead air me reading
comments but um it's just a lot of
people fortnite a lot of random stuff
too TR seek Derek I love you sending
Tons of love y'all's way from Thor thank
you Christy says truth tribe might not
make it to dinner Friday but I I'll be
in late Friday night okay cool christe's
coming to the retreat as well
um yeah anybody has any questions even
if you post them posted the question
repost it just so I can see it because
there's really a lot of stuff going on
in the chat there um it looks like she's
trying
to unmute itself look at
him see let me unmute him
man okay you should be able to unmute
yourself now if that's what you're
trying to do said taing this song I
don't know what I'm trying to do mate my
body doesn't belong to me anymore it
belongs to I don't know man like the
forces of Truth it seems to be a
difficult one so I have like a big
Hallelujah for all those who are on a
mission for truth and not for love and
approval it may not just be direct
truica might be like what's your name
cion fire Brandon Higgins that's what I
see on my screen right now you know
because I tell you what like uh Troth is
a difficult one you know Love is Easy
Money is easy truth is card you know I
don't know what you guys got to say
about that so what's that worse on your
chest by the way Derek what's what's
where's that from because I couldn't
find it like it's uh from the First
Gospel no it's from the Apocrypha uh the
14 books that were taken out of the
Bible um ah oh dude I swear to God I was
begging and praying in church I was like
I can't find that freaking pH I was just
like going through the Bible and I was
was just like holy [Â __Â ] where's this
dude's tattoo how could it not be here
how can I stand
here you know anyway man you commute me
out bro I'll listen to you brother
you're Master Yoda
man
okay love you
man I love you too bro we're gonna meet
you again brother n I'm joking um yeah
my the verse that's on my chest it says
strive for the truth unto death and the
Lord shall fight for thee so as long as
you're striving for truth and and
standing up for truth that you got the
Lord God creator of the universe
striving with you so fighting for you on
your side this is how I fight my battles
but it's from s the book of sarak which
was taken out of the Bible it was in the
um Apocrypha 14 books that were taken
out what's up Rachel Rachel says Sion
and Brandon truth what's up Bros what's
up
Rachel Rachel what's
up she says I love this guy's
energy for sure what up Derek spilner
Chris um Sean L saying is very lovely so
have you guys ever experienced when you
have an idea something to bring it to
light but can't quite articulate it
um informally and then you feel that
idea or knowledge leave for someone else
to grab it
h have you ever about that Mark like if
you missed it and somebody else got it
I've definitely seen like other people
get the same information but I don't
knows
like yeah yeah maybe like you don't you
don't do anything with it but your
neighbor does right you both are getting
this energy this inspiration but they
take it and make a song out of it they
take it and do a book or a podcast or
just share the information in a group
but it's something that you were feeling
deep down within you ever felt that
yeah for sure like um what's that thing
where the monkeys on the isolated
island uh then there was there was just
this one species of monkeys I think and
then they were only in one other place
on the planet but when One Tribe of
monkeys learned this new way to open a
coconut or something the totally
isolated group of the same kind picked
up on that and they did it for the first
time so it's like this tapping into the
the Consciousness and
um yeah when that that thing you might
feel monkey is that is that that the
hund monkey is that the the word for
that
maybe yeah I don't know if it was like a
science experiment or a thought
experiment or what but I've experienced
that you know yeah hey just just uh just
to chime in there I I was just looking
up that and it's the 100th monkey
syndrome or 100th monkey syndrome
something like that and they were doing
sweet potatoes so
yeah I I just looked that up like three
days ago
funny yeah I wonder how much of that
like you know collectively is like
inevitable you know what I'm saying like
Evolution wise like especially like
let's just say let's look at it let's
look at the idea of Egypt being a
thriving Advanced civilization that had
like advanced technology
that crumbled and was destroyed or
whatever and there's a lot of ancient
alien theories and all that kind of
stuff
but we're we're working our way back up
to this inevitable you know what I'm
saying of two you know next level uh
free energy technology all of that stuff
that other um civilizations whether they
existed on Earth or whatever uh have or
alien races some would say you know what
I'm saying like the aliens have advanced
spiritually techn technologically so far
that they have taken their place Among
the Stars where us humans haven't yet
but there's like this Collective that
eventually you're going to learn how to
make fire eventually you're going to
learn how to master your ego and choose
love as a civilization I think that
that's how evolution is going to work as
far as like you know uh you know what
I'm saying the human species or whatever
choosing love accepting love but I feel
like there's a a greater scale of like
this Essence that's just out there that
we pick up on like it's the next next
phase like once you learn the wheel and
then you learn Fire then you learn this
and then you learn that then you learn
technology then you learn how to put AI
in your body how to put a cell phone in
your wrist how to you know do a vaccine
that up upgrade your DNA we're getting
crazy here but you
know and I'm not saying I'm for any of
that but it's definitely where we're
headed
any
thoughts
um yeah I think for me it comes down to
like uh maybe what this person was
getting at more of like not being able
to quite
articulate the the idea that um yeah you
know it's trying to come to light and
for me it's like kind of comes down to
fomo like fear of missing out like um oh
no if I don't if I don't articulate this
Epiphany this download then someone else
is gonna g to take it and for me like it
could be a negative thing if I'm
stressing about that but that's only um
if I feel it in my conscience that like
I know I need to I be the one to bring
it uh bring it in you know because if
not like that's cool somebody else can
but if I'm you know being asked by
Spirit to to be the one to embody that
or what have you then that's kind of
like more ser serous more of like a duty
thing
um I find it I find it interesting that
um I remember you know going through my
Awakening and stuff and and being a
Christian and getting into the Mi the
Mysteries and getting into frequency and
energy and everything else that I got
into plant medicine UFOs those kind of
things that were like a really big deal
to me uh I felt isolated I felt like I
was alone going through it and um I
definitely was like locally
um but it seems like now um years later
you know 10 years later um that there's
a lot of people popping up that they had
to be like going through a
similar experience in the spirit as well
being trained up by the Holy Spirit um
on how to be faithful a faithful Steward
with this type of information and and
being excommunicated or um looked over
cuz now there's a bunch of people
emerging on the scene with with a a lot
of similar info and obviously I I know
that they've seen many documentaries
they've you know read similar books that
I had that kind of was there with my
Awakening and you know um but it's
interesting to see them pop up and it's
like okay they had to be researching or
reading or getting downloads you know
maybe after maybe same time but again
like the spirit is drawing these people
again that um you're not the only one
who's getting this information
I mean that's where the Messiah complex
comes in that I'm the only one who's
privy to this kind of stuff and I'm the
only one who's going through this or
whatever but it's definitely like a a
collective essence of spirit and whoever
is willing to you know seek it and and
follow I I would say God's Voice through
the Wilderness and and go to those those
places uh they emerge with maybe new
thought or an interpretation of the
scriptures and a way to articulate it uh
to the people people you know and and
how many of those who didn't like who
felt the draw but didn't they fought it
or whatever you know that's interesting
to
note because I because I see even like
mainstream pastors talking about this
stuff that that we've been talking about
for years now they're coming around you
know what I'm saying I see Perry Stone
teaching on vibration and music like
literally everything that I I've gotten
journals and notes that I took in 2010
and it's so weird it it's literally
Perry Stone is teaching my material but
but it's I think it's inevitable though
like it's where we were headed you know
I'm I don't think that I was like I'm
the only one privy to it it's something
that as you're seeking and as you're
studying sound music vibration all that
you're going to come to these similar um
ideas about this stuff and literally I'm
listening to Perry Stone teach it it's
always been weird for me because going
through that stuff those those uh the
people would dismiss you and call you a
heretic and say stay away from him
you've gotten into demonology or you
gotten into heresies but when their
favorite pastor says the same thing that
that you're teaching with a suit and a
tie it's acable to them and they're like
oh yeah Pastor Perry Stone taught us
about this like man I've been trying to
I've been talking about this since 2010
you know what I'm saying that kind of
thing it's that always been there
whether it was understanding the stars
and esoteric mysticism and stuff that's
was bringing out we got looked at as
crazy but now when their favorite Pastor
talks about it then it's like oh yeah
he's he's deep he's into it you
know that's part of the Forerunner thing
anyway though of having that that
Forerunner Spirit you
know I definitely experien what talking
about I want to put this out there uh
this we can rent this and do a retreat
here nice I'm sure it's
expensive well yeah I mean I I think
it's like almost two grand maybe about
two grand a night all things are
possible yeah I mean who who's not going
to put money up for this bro yeah no I
would hey let's go heck
yeah so what was you gonna say uh cion
just about yeah um same story almost man
like I I've had uh like church culture
people talking to me and they're like
yes this great Epiphany like did do you
know that about frequency and like do
you like everything is is vibration
freeny and I'm like hold on weren't you
just telling me that that was of the
devil like yeah six months ago and now
you're all stoked on it and I want to I
want to stay humble because like um like
what you're saying I think it's not some
it's not me just because I was thinking
about that sooner or whatever it is kind
of like this inevitable thing that's
coming out and everyone's at their own
pace and everything it's all good yeah
there's a there's a leveling up but but
you know
my the bone I have to pick with that
that Christian next Age movement is that
they feel like this is all new stuff
like we're learning this new stuff but
for me this is the ancient path like
this is stuff again Pythagoras was
breaking down vibration healing through
music healing through sound leaving your
body the the the ancient church we
talked about this yesterday like the
ancient Church you know the way that the
the churches were built and you know the
Gregorian chants and when they would
play organs in the pipes that would
release a frequency in the sound would
they literally built the the structures
of the churches the way that the sound
would carry through the whole coliseums
essentially and people would would feel
it and have an out ofbody experience
when they played this music like it's
noted like even the music of Beethoven
and Bach and all of this stuff was to
help you get smarter you literally get
smarter when you listen to this music
like the early Church really understood
the power of sound frequency vibration
leaving your body having mystical
encounters so to think that this is
something new I don't want nothing new
God's doing a new thing listen I want a
res a Resurgence or a Revival of what
they had I got to let's return to that
first and so we start adding new stuff
to this stuff cuz they I feel like like
they had it figured out man they had a
beautiful spirituality that carried
power and presence and authority and
creativity and all of that so to think
that we're like bringing something new
to the table I want a Revival of the old
stuff that they
had all of it the plant medicines the
fire pit Gatherings you know what I'm
saying everything yep campfire stories
language all of it and it's it's a great
returning it's not some yeah like I just
agree with what you're saying man it's
we're just going back to the ancient
ways
yep um there was a question here here
I'm going try to get back to it uh Derek
spilner says I would like to hear about
each one's first time I guess touched by
the Divine Spirit when it all started
coming together there was always a a par
there is always a particular moment um
I've I've talked about my uh you know
Spiritual Awakening and and baptism of
the Holy Spirit kind of thing early on
but what about you guys like when did it
click did you ever have that because not
everybody has that one that you know
what I'm saying that Damascus rad
Paul getting knocked off of his horse
because Jesus shown up to him in like
the form of an Angelic light being like
not everybody has that some people are
just like they said yes and then just
start cultivating this relationship but
for many of us we have there was like a
Divine moment where God stepped into our
lives and you had this beautiful
breakthrough you
know I have a story go
ahead all right so um is when I was 18
you know young you know falling in love
for the first time and whatnot and um
that relationship didn't work out and I
was
thinking I didn't care about life that
was the you know at that point in time
in my life that that was the main thing
that mattered to
me so um one night I hung out with one
of my friends who I had seen in a
while we went over to this house and
there was this lady there
cooking and she asked me if I was hungry
and I was I was
like I'm always I'm 18 I'm always hungry
you know so it's not even a question
well okay I'm sitting in the kitchen
with her and she's telling
me you're a chosen one God is telling me
you're a chosen
one and at that point in time I needed
to hear
that and it went from suicidal thoughts
that I was having to oh my goodness my
life
matters you know what I'm saying and
that changed me from then on to this
point wow so somebody somebody who saw
that that that light within you and just
spoke to it right that
easy right she like yeah gu telling me
you're a chosen one I'm like and like I
can't remember I'm I'm 39 now and I was
18 and so I don't remember details but
she was like telling me details the
things I was
experiencing and I was just like oh my
goodness
and
just ever since then it put me on a
different
mindset that's what's up that's so good
that's one of the things where like I'm
really big on just seeing people like
Jesus sees them not looking at their
failures or their shortcomings or their
ailments you know just you know looking
at somebody as a leper or the woman with
the issue of blood like Jesus was able
to look and see that that spark within
them that that fire and he was able to
speak to it you know you know what I'm
saying and and fan it into flame through
a conversation that's where you know I
talk about mindful conversations and
being
intentional you know and and literally
reminding yourself okay Lord what would
you say about this person how how do you
see this person and because because like
we it's just human nature that we judge
people according to the Flesh and what
we see but the Bible says that man looks
at the outer appearance but God looks at
the heart so really just having that
prayer of training yourself to see
people see situations circum stances
okay God where are you in this what do
you see it looks like I'm a you know it
looks like I'm at my my Wit's End you
know but God has a way of turning the
situations around you as way of turning
people people's hearts around taking
away A Heart of Stone and just and
giving them a heart of Flesh that uh you
know we have to train ourselves to to
see people and in situations like God
sees them but that's it's so spiritual
but it's so simple
right that's good I would add like
seeing ourselves that's a practice I'm
trying to do often is seeing myself from
that Divine perspective like actively
asking um you know all all the all the
failure and all the the emotions and all
of it aside like how do you see me and I
feel like uh the more I can take little
glimpses of that the more I can it
inspires me and I'm like oh that's who I
am and then like um setting that that as
you know setting my sights on that in
life walking towards that rather than
like you know you kind of tend to head
towards whatever you're staring at right
so if I'm busy staring at all my
failures or or somebody else or whatnot
that's probably the direction I'm going
to go but I want to look at the goal I
want to look at that higher mindset of
who I am and and walk towards
that mhm yeah that's big
because you know I mean there's there's
so many variants but there are those
people who extend Grace to other people
that they don't even extend to them
themselves or they've made peace with
their past but they haven't made peace
with their future you know what I'm
saying
so being able to to be well-rounded in
all of that stuff to be able to uh you
know give yourself the grace that you
give other people or there's the
opposite Spectrum as well like I know we
probably even deal with this Spirit more
anyway with the religious community is
that they they look at themselves as
something special or look at themselves
as something that that almost seems
worthy of God's grace you know but other
people who sin or who do the same things
that they used to do like aren't worthy
you know what I'm saying so they don't
give the same Grace to other people that
they give to themselves when they mess
up when they stumble or look at
pornography or something they repent and
ask for forgiveness and it's all good
but if you find out that your pastor did
like it's off with this head kind of
thing you know or or whoever it is your
enemy whoever it is that you found out
that that is stumbling or doing things
that doesn't add up to you know what you
think a good Christian is you know what
I'm saying so um being able to show
others the same Grace that we show
ourselves too which is the opposite end
of that spectrum and we heard the quote
says oh how disgusting our sin looks
when other people is commit are
committing it like if I do it it's okay
have forgiveness but when other people
do it now we have a problem now we need
to you know God up and slander but I
think that you know life has a way of
humbling you and you go through that
stuff
of I don't I'm not quick to point out
judgments and flaws in other people
anymore you know what I'm saying like I
that used to be part of my Ministry was
to
expose you know preachers or expose you
know false Doctrine and stuff and like
you know that was all that was
shortlived it was a good year or two but
I
definitely um have stepped away from
that and the Lord just kind of spoke to
me as like the best way to combat false
Doctrine is not to call names and point
people's names out and talk about their
doctr it's really just to teach it the
right way if the Lord's given you the
Revelation on how to how to biblically
tithe or how to biblically serve or
whatever the case is don't like start
marking everybody who's doing it wrong
just do it the right way and that has
more impact anyway and you don't look
like a hater e
either you know jealous hater because a
lot of that stuff is out of jealousy it
is out of tearing somebody down so that
you look
better you know tarnishing their name so
that you know you may be able to pick up
on some of their followers or whatever
you
know yeah I feel like I went through a
long season of picking apart uh what
western churchianity is doing and what I
don't like about it and how it doesn't
resonate with me and then I kind of had
this um turning point where it was like
how long am I going to keep beating my
head against the wall
trying to make this thing that doesn't
resonate somehow work for me and how how
many more times will I get
disappointed um and then it was like
well when am I going to start embodying
the
change goes back to like what are you
gonna set your sights on I'm sick of I I
could talk [Â __Â ] on the church all day
there's plenty wrong with how things are
going plenty right too but yeah a lot I
don't like and uh I could do that or I
could I could use my energy instead to
to become and to um try and embody some
of that there's another old saying is a
lot of old school cats say I can show
you better than I can tell you and
they'll say that like in like I'm going
to come over there and whoop you if you
don't leave me alone I'mma whoop you
it's like yeah right hey I'mma show you
better than I can tell you let me show
you let me show you don't let me talk
about what it's supposed to look like
let me build it man let me let me be an
example because all you have after that
is my testimony of my lifestyle and what
and how this is working working for me
cuz really that's all I can give you I'm
not here to argue theories and doctrines
and stuff I can't prove but I want to
show you something that is real in my
life and and that's the only proof I
need you know what I'm saying um and but
you said you can you know see all the
bad stuff in the church and I think
that's when a lot of people wake up or
they start seeing that there's you know
the church is flawed or there's things
that don't add up or whatever um that
comes easy but then to step out to the
next thing that you said of like
learning to see the good in it you know
what I'm saying so I don't even you know
for the most part I don't even like
comment on all the bad stuff I still
celebrate like the be the beauty that
the good that the church is doing you
know any denomination even people I
totally disagree even like you know
stuff that I think might even be demonic
you know what I'm saying whether it's
different types of religious orders and
beliefs or whether we're talking about
Catholic or Pentecostals or Baptists
like immediately our mind goes to the
bad stuff that they're doing and it's
easy and I used to teach that and try to
convert those people over to what I
believed or whatever that was still
falling and you know I thought it was
right in my own mind but um but I
trained myself to to see the beauty in
it you know and see how they're helping
people and it's helping people maintain
even whether it's Christian beliefs or
even New Age Pagan beliefs like let me
look at the good in what they're doing
and that's the syncretism you know what
I'm saying to see like what connects us
and see how they the beauty they have to
connect with God in such a weird way but
it's their way you know and so um I had
to train myself to do that and I I'm
proud of myself for doing that you know
it's easy to point out the flaws but
it's hard to look at them like Christ
and see the gems and the beauty and the
gold but we kind of think that Jesus
would see them and rebuke everybody who
is not like us but I think that you know
it it it is the eye of God that we can
look at people and see them for you know
how they're maintaining and how their
their spirituality and what it means to
them no matter how weird or different it
is from
ours yeah yeah I always think about um I
always just I'm so thankful for my mom
because I see um how she really gets a
lot out of classic
church uh experience and I I don't
commune with the Creator that way at all
I could rather be out in the woods
hitting the drum with you know around a
fire or something but for her that does
it for her and I think it's it's about
individual and whether it's authentic
and you know I I have a sneaking
suspicion that like it's those old
church ladies like keeping the the world
together like they're the ones who are
actually like you know we might have
like gurus and and you know
International days of meditation and
alignment and everything but there ain't
nobody as tenacious in their holding
space for the planet than those little
old church ladies that are that are
praying you know in secret so I don't
know the intercessor
Prof yeah The Power of a Praying
grandmother yeah I'm with you and I
honor it and I definitely honor
um you know the the mysticism that the
Pentecostal Church holds and then the
more research you do about the the older
Mystics of like stuff we don't know
about like you know looking at the the
Quakers you know what I'm saying and uh
even the you know the Mystic of the
early Catholic church and man just so
much beauty that they that they hold and
I think everybody has a a beautiful
piece of the puzzle and um and if we can
honor that like you know to think that
any of us have it all figured out it's
so funny like once you get on that that
weird mindset that okay this is the
church man these guys got to figure out
even with us like there's people who
like come into our circles and stuff and
listen to my podcast and read my book
and they're part of the circle and they
look they put me on a pedest you know
what I'm saying it's like oh wow he does
that it's like yeah eventually you going
to find something like nobody has it all
figured out I have something beautiful
that I bring to the table I also have a
lot of flaws and you know I'm a regular
person but you have to have that same
Grace with me and with everybody else to
understand that we don't have it all
figured out cuz right right when you do
and you think that you're a church you
find out something crazy about that
church or belief system and that works
with all of them cuz we're on this this
weird thing and this something I want to
talk about of like trying to find the
most spiritual and the most correct
Doctrine out there and you're chasing
your tail you're trying to find the the
the greatest spiritual he healer the
greatest Christian that has everything
all together they operate in everything
awesome and you you want to find that
person and you want to sit under them
and align with their teachings but then
again like what I just said you'll find
out that they have flaws too oh they
said what totally misinterpreted that
verse that means the world to me they
really just you know crapped on a big
part of my faith and or whatever so
everybody is like that but see the
beauty in them you know Catholics Jimmy
Swagger like Jimmy Swagger and them like
I still listen to a lot of a lot of
their preachings and teachings and stuff
and when it comes to a revelation of the
Cross of Christ and what you know Jesus
did for Humanity and the power of the
Cross like nobody has a greater
Revelation than Jimmy Swagger straight
up but that may be the only thing you
can listen to him on spiritual gifts and
fasting and all that kind of stuff you
you might have to go somewhere else so
to be well-rounded when you want to hear
about how should I view Trump you might
not want to listen to a Sunday service
who's like they all you know followers
devotees of trump almost you know what
I'm saying and the government and
Kingdom now Theology and Dominion
theology that you get into weird stuff
I'm just using examples but to like I
listen to my you know spiritual giftings
and how to U utilize them from a mixture
of Chris vaton and bethl and a mixture
of you know David Wilcock I don't know
you know what I'm saying but I'm not
going to go to I'm not going to go to
James Gillan to hear about who Jesus was
I'm sorry I'm not going to go to Jordan
Maxwell to hear him tell me about the
beauty of King Jesus and what he did for
Humanity I'm sorry but I know that so
when he says his stuff and they go in
their rants I'm it's in one ear out the
other you know because I know I know I
know Jesus right so it's the same way
it's here a little there a little find
out when you're learning and when you're
seeking you're not coming to one place
um and a lot of Christians and I've been
there in the past early on you know
trying to go to those meetings those
conferences or if I can go to if I can
go to Benny hin conference and I can get
Benny hin to pray for me or if I can
meet this you know mission who's
ministering in the the woods of India
who's doing signs and wonders like if I
can get him to pray for me then I'll
this this weird idea that if we get up
under these people then we'll receive
their anointing or they'll teach us to
do what they're doing when the whole
dichotomy of that whole thing is the
holy spirit's there the whole time W
willing and able to teach you and once
you know that you don't have to go
anywhere you don't have to do anything
to be taught by the spirit which is the
one who teaches you through those people
anyway I I've seen just a lot of
sectarianism
a lot of factions rival factions in the
in the church and you don't add up to
this man or I was following TR seek and
now I follow this guy because like get
out of here with that crap you know what
I'm saying like I don't have it all
together and I'm sorry to bust your
bubble that person doesn't either you
know yeah that's super good I I'm like
so grateful that I kind of walked
through that because for a long time I
was really worried of like um this
person with this spiritual information
like is this are they good can they can
I trust them yeah but the reality is the
spirit is our teacher like um the spirit
of Truth is guiding us into all truth
and so that really takes the pressure
off because I'm learning from Spirit you
might have a nugget they might have a
nugget it's all good like I don't have
to
worry
whe or not 100% infallible if I'm using
that word right like because the
spirit's teaching me and so then I that
way I'm free I can G I can go to a cult
meeting or a church group or a trump
Rally or whatever and spirit going teach
all those things it don't matter even if
it ain't for me I can like Cults
Jehovah's Witness Mormons all these
people are Cults you know that's what
you kind of fed in in the dogmatic
Christian Community and now now I we are
all like we're stepping into our
Divinity as as beings here on on the
earth and so if if I'm trying to like
sell you on an idea that I have and
trying to get you to believe what what I
believe without first like pointing you
to go to source to go to the Holy Spirit
and and see that this information
resonates with you personally then then
I'm actually trying to make a follow I'm
trying to make you a follower of me
rather than pointing you to the source
right so that's that's kind kind of how
I resonate with it right now and uh the
teachers that I resonate with I I find
that they're teaching me to always to go
back to source to not take what they say
as gospel but you know to to to check
that with the universe to check that
with Source energy to check that check
that with the spirit of Love and Truth
as you have been uh given um you know
the keys to so yeah that's uh that's one
thing that you hear a lot of seekers
champion in their churches when they
hear their Pastor say that don't take my
word for it you know ask God open the
scriptures and find it for yourself you
know and you hear a lot of people Echo
that hey my pastor tells me to don't
take his word for it go find it for
myself and they that really means a lot
to a lot of people especially even in
the church
realm yeah yeah I feel like our
generation and especially the like I'm
46 right so I kind of grew up in this in
this Arena where yeah you would go to
church meetings and they would teach you
uh old church philosophy and since
because you had this Holy Spirit
experience you felt like oh these people
were teaching you what's right and uh
you know now as we're going through our
Awakening you know we're we're we're
seeing a like a bigger Church like
church isn't four walls it isn't one
type of mentality it's the heart of
humanity all coming to uh I guess a
connection with with the spirit so
that's I mean that's how I look at the
church now it's like everybody I see is
the church like you know I mean if you
if you get down to it the air that we
breathe is the church let's let's feel
let's let's think about how to partner
with it let's think about how to protect
it you know the uh yeah the world the
Earth is a church you know that's all
given to us and and there's truth in uh
the the world system that that you know
as As Above So Below and it all
compliments each other if you have yeah
the eyes to see it so that's I mean
that's things work together that's it we
can come back to that verse all day man
yep
yep on yeah you know and I always Echo
this it was big for me when I um was
going through my Awakening and I I
didn't see those those Cults as separate
from me or as less than me um and a big
part of that was um hearing hearing
Billy Graham you know towards the end of
his life the greatest evangelist of our
day speak on that speak on that when
Jesus talks about he has sheep that are
not of this fold and Billy gramson
interpretation of that and what he
believes is is that there's M there are
Muslims who are part of what he said the
body of Christ there are Hindus who are
part of the body of Christ there are
Buddhists who are part of the body of
Christ he said they may have not never
even heard the name of Jesus ever but
they are still part of the body of
Christ and I tell you what when I heard
Billy Graham say that at the end of his
life like one who's done the evangelism
work the one who's won people over to
Jesus and all of that and now he comes
to the conclusion after he's lived his
life and he's ran his race that this was
the deal with the true body of Christ
was that that Jesus is in in every
everyone and everything and they may not
even have heard that name and it goes
back to the Book of Romans that says
that like as like if you're keeping the
law according to your um your heart
because God has written his Commandments
on our hearts which is if we a lot of
people believe if we're in the New
Covenant now or if it's something that
comes later whatever but the New
Covenant God will write his laws Upon
Our Hearts and and it's it's your
conscience that bears witness and and
the Holy Spirit convicts you of sin and
um you know you don't have to tell a kid
when they steal that they're not
supposed to do that when they take stuff
that don't belong to them or they
somebody takes something from them and
they slap them like they don't you don't
have to tell them that hey you that
wasn't nice like they know they have to
like connive and and plan it so to think
that there was I believe that before
this Covenant there was a primitive
people which were mainly in the Old
Testament that they didn't know like
they were barbaric and they kill you and
not give two shits like I believe that
that these were different people that
were it's good man you know what I was
always talking about us doing a a round
table especially with you know the
students I just been wanting to do round
taes anyway and just what happened we
got four people you know who we've been
kind of meeting weekly for the last
eight weeks and uh it's been good so far
so I'm sure if we had everybody here
it'll be even better so want to do
something like this moving forward even
if I host it or one of you guys host it
feel free you know to do that do a round
table Yeah man right on yeah I was going
to say I think it you know Mark touched
on this a little bit too is like uh
going back to the intention and and I
did I looked up that YouTube event from
uh Billy Graham and it was it was
nothing but a confirmation for me like
all right man I feel like the spirit has
already whispered this to me Y and then
to hear you know like the number one
Evangelical