Alien Greys And The UFO Deception | Philip Kinsella | TruthSeekah Podcast

Alien Greys And The UFO Deception | Philip Kinsella | TruthSeekah Podcast
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today's talk my guest today is philip
kinsella philip welcome to the true
secret podcast my friend how are you
thank you very much sir and i'm very
delighted to be on board with your
wonderful show
thank you an honor awesome um
we have a mutual friend um philip mantle
had him on the podcast a couple weeks
ago he's introduced me to a lot of
really cool
individuals that he works with and uh
and you was one of the names that came
across my desk and
saw what you were bringing to the table
and said this would definitely make for
a great talk so here we are
that's brilliant and philip mental is
also mine and my twin brother
ronald's mentor so he's been of enormous
assistance and helped us both so we are
grateful to all those
esteemed individuals researchers and
authors in this very complex
uh you know subject matter concerning
ufos
so yes and we're going to talk a
little bit about um a little bit about a
lot of different topics
and i want to cover a wide gamut with
you but
what got you into the interest in
ufology
aliens ufos and this this whole uh
subculture which it definitely is what
like what was your your genesis into
this stuff
well um the beginning was when my twin
brother and i were 13 years of
age and we had viewed at the back garden
of our grandmother's house
she lived in middlesex here in england
they had quite a big house
we're in the garden one summer's uh late
afternoon or
evening i can't remember we remember the
event very well but not if it was after
late afternoon or evening but we were
witness to
a silver orb in broad daylight that came
over towards the back tree to the garden
and then came over her head it was
completely circular about the size of a
football there were no markings on it it
seemed heavy
and we asked her what is it
and she told us that the fairies had
come to take a closer look at us
of course we we realized that was not
the truth
but we saw the object moving towards the
house towards the
first floor windows then to the second
and it moved over
and we ran inside to the other side of
the house and watched it disappear
and it had been the talk of the family
for a while and
the main event that had occurred and got
me really involved
with this was what people term an alien
abduction
uh that occurred in the winter of 1989
and the only
abduction that i can recall there may
have been another one
and this led me into the crusade to find
out
um two aspects to the phenomena i wanted
to know whether or not it was true
and that was already relevant but we are
living in a system
that debunks the subject so i wanted to
know whether or not when i was lying
or the system that we serve was lying
and i think we can pretty much
guess what side of the fence i was
looking at this from
so it was during the event
the rather unusual event in the winter
of 1989
that showed me that there appeared to be
two aspects to what we call
an abduction an alien abduction one
happens on a very physical level
another part seems to integrate itself
on a very
personal level of conscious connection
and uh you know without going too far
afield here
um we are looking at something that
seemingly operates not only on the
physical
but also apparent interdimensional
hypothesis
and and that's where i started to really
dig in to this research and i was
fed up also with the constant lies
um from the system um you know being
told constantly that
you know you're laughed at when you
appear on media television or on
you know talking to people so i kind of
like suffered like many people do
through this this form of ridicule but
today we're finding
that more people are becoming more aware
of this subject
not just about the ufo phenomenon but
also about the
spiritual side the essence of what we
really represent
as opposed to the biological flesh and
blood mechanisms with a cell by date
that we've been sold by the system and
everything else is just
faith so this is where my crusade led me
never would i ever have dreamed that i
would be connected with
some of the highest minds within ufology
and that is something i i totally
respect
and our modus operandi is to search for
the truth
so this started with you having this
siding at a young age
and then you had an uh um abduction
experience as well
yes that's correct uh detail about that
well it's a little bit long-winded but i
will just stay for the record
part of the experience proved to me
that the greys as we call them and they
were the main emphasis of my research
because i had experienced these
beings as it were i was puzzled as to
how the process of an abduction occurred
and seemingly it would appear that the
individual is taken through solid matter
and why it was that on more occasions
than not the grace have to be in close
proximity to the individual that they're
abducting
and i began to realize that through
through the abduction that i had i
started to question how it was that i
was being
able to be taken through solid matter
i.e doors
and this is something that stuck for
many many years
and you know we get people saying oh
it's because you know they they can beam
you up well
all well and good but why can't they do
that from the craft why do they have to
be present
or in close proximity to the individual
and i believe that what may be occurring
is that these beings need some kind of
psychic integration
and they need the subject to be in some
form of conscious state
in order to create that psychic link so
my research
then led um in the understanding that
perhaps we're dealing with something
or a power force energy whatever
intelligence
that is very old and it's kind of
disturbing
when you find through research of how
many people have had these experiences
and rather like um the abduction to me
that i discovered way back in 1996
because i had been credited with an
article in a magazine that we had then
called alien encounters
um i discovered that the abduction
phenomena sat very closely towards the
near death experience
and in this exam for example in a
near-death experience
a person goes through walls and doors
they see a light
they go down a tunnel more times than
not they meet loved ones that
communicate telepath
telepathically and the person is
returned back
more times than not changed and in some
cases
if they are suffering some terminal
illness it seems
the whole biosphere of their body is
completely reconfigured to
its correct vibrational level which
means they're healed
the abduction seems to occur on
dare i say this more times than on a
rather negative level
although it mirrors the near-death
experience we're finding that the person
again
is taken through walls and doors they're
in the presence of these beings that
communicate telepathically
a person has a sense of missing time
that could be
because the individual has been taking
outside their normal
framework of of time processing and
the same with the near-death experience
where the person loses or cannot account
for time
so this led me into the understanding
that through what i had experienced
which i will tell you was quite grueling
and quite
nasty and embarrassing if i
may use that word and something i had to
live with for a very long time
and because of that shame because of the
experience
i wasn't one of these people to just sit
and and leave it
i wanted to find out what it was if
there was any form or base
of reality to a continuation of these
events with other people
and this is what we found so this is how
i really wanted to find out the answer
to what
the greys are i know there are other
factions of beings as we're told
but i can only talk from experience
and so it was a very frightening
experience and one that i have never
forgot and i can still recall very
clearly
may i make a point in saying here that i
have never had regression or hypnosis i
remembered the events exactly
as they had occurred and they i have not
added or subtracted anything
but we're still puzzled we still don't
know why
and this is what we look looking at yeah
i mean that was going to be the next
question just about your abduction uh
experience was it something that was
fearful and malevolent or was it
something you know beautiful and changed
your life obviously it changed your life
but
it sets you on this this road this path
whenever you talk about
you know the spiritual connection
something that you keep mentioning
is it more oh over the the spiritual
abilities that these entities might have
or the connection that made you open up
to become more spiritual as well because
we are hearing a lot
a lot of that that people who have had
these abduction scenarios or
contact experiences they become more in
tune with their telepathic
communication with beings and ships and
friends and
they know who's about to call them right
before they call on the telephone
different premonitions and things like
that where does the spirituality link in
with you is it more
the spiritual powers that they have or
are you tapping into some of this stuff
now as well
that is a very interesting question and
one that i really value
highly now what happened was that even
though the experience to me
was very negative in later life i then
became
interested in psychic phenomena and one
of the reasons was because
i wanted to find what we as humans
represent
what our purpose is and i discovered
after
you know going to see a brilliant medium
as they're called i prefer the word
interpreter because they're just
interpreting information coming from a
higher source
that we can't see here rather like the
signals to your mobile phone
you have a physical instrument to catch
the signals and download and
convert those signals into a language
that we can understand
so did the experience change me yes it
did
did it help me it may well possibly have
i think something happened i think when
all of us go through a very tragic
experience whatever that that tragedy
may be
something opens up i think there's more
empathy or more understanding
now it could be that the experience i
had back in the winter of 1989 had
somehow
opened a part of my mind which was
previously closed
and as we know this is the other subject
matter that fascinates me
not just about the ufo phenomena but
also the psychic
part the survival of human consciousness
a little bit strange it was back in 1996
when i brought forward this theory and
of course
a lot of people now share things which
i'm more than happy to do
but it made me realize something more
about the greys
themselves through our consciousness
through our spirituality
i have always believed that when we die
you know take away all the the jargon
that consciousness survives the state of
death and it returns to source
and it is feasible to assume that we
ourselves have
incarnated perhaps more times than once
uh and not just perhaps on this planet
because we always think in the
in terms of being a human and
one of the things that fascinated me and
i did question was
did this experience happen to change me
deliberately to change the course of my
life going forward like all of us
individually we are all important
all special no matter what we do or what
we what we think
so the greys kind of like gave me a clue
perhaps as to their genus or what they
are doing and why they are interested
in us as a reproductive species
because we must understand through our
own research
that the greys appear to be some type of
cloned
entity or robotic in nature that much
has been agreed
by many researchers i mean we have
different theoretical applications that
we can apply
and i'm open to all forms of speculation
but i must state i think this
subject or the experience may show us
more about what
we are as humans and you know
when we look at the grays as they are
called it's like chasing shadows they
come in and they go out very quickly
and certainly their modus operandi is
kept secret or at least they demand
that it's not like they want to come
forward and reveal all and what they do
most times they're not it's lies so yes
i believe that i wanted to discover not
just about the reality of ufos
but also of the continuation of what we
call
the soul yeah that's good um
it starts out with one thing but then it
snowballs
into a lot more you thought it was only
about the proof of extraterrestrial life
and then it becomes the agenda
and then who am i why am i here and a
lot of other things snowball
let me ask you this you have is that a
picture behind you of of the jesus
arm wrestling satan is that behind
correct correct
so here here in the comment section as
we're we're live streaming here some
people are saying that
and and this is definitely from a
christian perspective that
the grays or all aliens everything
outside of our atmosphere or whatever
they're all demonic fallen entities that
are coming here to
do experiments to kidnap people things
like that
mostly across the board from the
christian perspective i'm a christian
but mostly when i got into ufology it
was
studying under the christian you know
lin marzulli and all these guys guy
malone
so many more names and and it was hands
down these are
demons it wasn't until i got into
looking into
different people who just kind of looked
at the research for what it was
that i got out of okay these are demons
these may be
angels what about the the angelic beings
that are out there
traveling so do you do you have a
religious uh connotation with it when it
comes to
these experiences that uh angels aliens
demons and all that kind of stuff
well you know i have the greatest
respect for the religious departments
totally and as i've said before we must
walk
very carefully i know that i've had many
people telling me straight out of their
demons we cannot
discount that hypothesis we have to be
open-minded
the only reason that i study them
because one person told me who was
religious that you're you know you're
doing the devil's work no i'm not
in order for us to understand something
we must explore it
and not just through you know religious
text or words
uh in the bible um which i have read by
the way
it is possible and if we if i can take
the
hypothesis one step further with regards
to the grays and their secret
modus operandi we are finding that the
grey
seemed or appear to be interested in
reproduction
now for a species that themselves cannot
reproduce
that sniff suspect to me even back in
1996
and i had what i can only term as one
some type of revelation
in 1996. people call it what they will
it felt like a download the only way i
can explain it was like some kind of
revelation
that everything came pouring out very
quickly i scribbled everything down at
work on a piece of paper
and i submitted the article to a
magazine that took it and the alien
encounters magazine and of course this
has
applied in my further works in my books
later on but
if we look at the grades they seem to be
a blank
canvas they are interested in
reproduction
they are interested in what makes us as
humans tick
they don't understand about time of love
of empathy
of spirituality it's almost as if they
themselves have lost
themselves totally to some other cause
now we could take the cloned hypothesis
a little bit further which is what is
part of my work
and we could assume that because we come
through the normal
processing of gestation birthing cycle
we carry the memories from one life to
the other or the soul i'm not going to
get
involved with the reincarnational
aspects i think it's important for us to
look at
all areas of this debate
but one thing that is correct is that
you know
for a species that cannot replicate
themselves
they are using humans and it's possible
uh on a theoretical level that the
divine spark of that clone
that is not part of the creation process
is interested in trying to re-incubate
itself
into a biological form
if they are demons and i will say a big
f because i step very lightly but i also
respect
all establishments even though i get
attacked and criticized from all sides
you can't win in this game
if they were demons is it possible
perhaps that they are trying to re-enter
into this physical realm through this
said hybridization program
because from our stance you know we
are spirit and i've always believed that
that we are consciousness
that is linked or a soul in a biological
form
that is designed to walk through this
life
with an experience and memories but it
could be that none of the species has
hijacked that because they themselves
are no longer part of the bigger picture
and of course you said quite rightfully
when you're dealing with the subject
matter it leads you into some very deep
waters and
uncomfortable territory but territory
nevertheless that we
must explore we have to um that is very
important
so aliens from another planet i'm not so
sure i tend to believe more in the
interdimensional hypothesis
now when man came into being when we
were created we have to understand that
we are so far removed from the creation
here on earth because we've been
allowed to develop and we know why
you know we are the sentient life form
that's being graced to
and be afforded the ability to progress
and question
whereas all of all of nature cannot but
it is there for our our services as
it were but to the grace appear very
different
um and it could be that they are
performing a replication program
to try to re-establish themselves back
into the loop of creation
where they have been damned um so that's
what i i see with regards to that
yeah so i mean that kind of you know
leads us to you know the hybrid children
and
people having all these stories about
going on
a ship or entering some type of room
with a bunch of
children there and um you know
that they carried some of these children
um
these different stories that you're
hearing about i know there was something
that really freaked me out years ago you
may know what i'm talking about because
i'm sure you've
you've just been digging all of this but
there was this lady who
had a baby like this uh there was a
something inside of her she said she was
abducted by aliens and they put
something within her
and she had this baby that looked like
some type of little frog creature i
don't know if you remember that at all
but
when you get into that
it's definitely become a subculture
especially with even within ufology but
it's definitely their
mobilization and people who are carrying
alien
babies and things like that i've kind of
stayed away from it myself
but early on definitely scary
definitely weird uh you hear crazy
stories
um are you familiar with with any any of
that stuff
yes and again that is uncomfortable
territory i mean i can only
talk from experience but let's look at
the grays again and how the process they
may instigate in
in the form of an abduction they're able
to bring the person through walls and
doors through solid matter
they take them onto a craft and i
believe what's happening in some
instances they seem to up their program
and if you look at the 1950s and 60s uh
the world wasn't as populated as it is
today and in some forms of
contact as we call it it was done on a
very one-to-one level
although on most of those occasions
there will be a physical part
and a part that they can't recall and
had to be regressed through memory
if not sometimes you know a little bit
sporadic or trying to put pieces
together
so that confirms that the visitors as we
call them are not interested
in reaching out to us or helping us they
have their own agenda
now in the process of an abduction what
i feel is happening
possibly is that the greys from their
dimension of awareness
are extracting the real you from your
host as it were the physical part of
what you are biologically
and once you are matched by that
frequency
they're able to interact with you but
because the consciousness or soul for
once of a better word
is still a stat attached sorry to its
physical counterpart
whatever they do to you there which is
real
will still affect the body uh marx
you know implants that type of thing
now look at the near-death experience so
you think that the people are taking
their bodies with them
on said ships and things not all the
times in some occasions they are
if they do then they're using or
utilizing the same process of bringing
the you know the molecular structure of
the entire u
into their field frequency of awareness
and interaction is definitely
achieved through this the ufo could be a
reference
point they need a point or a place to
bring you
to they can't just take you anywhere and
i feel that the greys also
are able to manifest images very clearly
to the abductee they can even bring the
abductees dead relatives on board so the
greys appear to be very
powerful in terms of interacting with
the mind although
it feels to me as though they're trying
to understand us
on a not only a biological level but
also the consciousness the soul
uh with these forms or or processing
of uh mental uh you know instigation
for instance um they bring fear they
will show explosions or the world
blowing up it's almost as if they want
some kind of
stimuli from the individual and they may
be recording this
so we have to be very careful are we
dealing with demons are we dealing with
androids are we dealing with clones are
we dealing with people from the future
that you know um as well as i do that
this sphere is
so vast but my theoretical piece of work
um although may be rejected by many
does suggest to some level that the
interaction between us and so-called
aliens is all about the soul
about what makes us tick about
reproduction
and that that is very strange especially
when they want to deliberately
you know nullify the memory so the
person has
no hardly any recall in more cases than
not of what's occurred
and what does that tell you and please
don't tell me there's a special code in
the universe that
permit that stops beings from
interacting with us well if that's the
case the greys have broken that already
but the greys are very old they've been
here for a very very long time and as
you know
as well as i do is that the phenomena
has morphed it's changed
now um it almost seems
you know i'm getting a picture of of the
matrix but i think i think more so
uh avatar where there's this world that
exists
that they're not a part of and they want
to assimilate and get within that world
how do we do it we we need to have a you
know we can do it consciously
heck it's almost like if you if you
track if you
hack the psychedelic trance state
and our spirits go there but we're
snatched back we come back here
how do we stay there well we need to
become one of them um yes the guys need
whether they're putting their spirits
within these humans as well maybe they
just need to shell
and they put a soul their soul that is
very ancient
this is where it gets into the demon
stuff i mean you know Genesis 6 and
nephilim and
there's a bunch of comments here about
that oh yeah that's why i think that's
why it's
that theory sticks so much for a lot of
people Genesis
6 and fallen angels needed bodies and
all of this kind of stuff and it almost
seems there is a theory that
that i've i've heard and have believed
for some time that that could be true
that
that the greys have that the grace are
these meat suits these robots if you
will like you said
but they have cr created these suits
that they have put their spirits in now
they can
animate this body that
somebody has created for them whatever
it is
yes the government and
absolutely i've created this or this
sort of been something that
uh evolution that they have learned to
do and and
and you know um manipulate particles and
matters to such a small level to they
were able to create it
and now they're here now they're flying
around our skies maybe or
in and out of these dimensions that
they've learned to travel
there's so much there's so much to it
and and that's why the people
get with the demon thing i'm really not
with with the demon scenario but
um but at the same time is this
benevolent
because if you're let's just say that
there is something that their their
species is becoming extinct
and they or or they have found a realm
that they have not
they're not privileged to yet unless
they have a body i mean we would do
and are doing the same thing if it's
technology how do we exist within
this technological world well we need to
create the technology to do it and
and harvest you know there's all kinds
of stuff going on so is it
necessarily benevolent because they're
doing this this program i think from our
perspective yes
the way that we view things now let me
give you another example
you as i see it are a natural process
of uh you know soul integration you've
come through the
womb the correct channel you had a
mother and your mother
and you when you depart this plane your
soul returns back to source
but what if i cloned you in a laboratory
now let's just take this question one
step further
let's say i cloned you ten times you
when you pass over not for a very long
time
when you pass over your consciousness
will return to that realm
the question of the clones will only
have the
memory of one single imprint of one
recording
and therefore when the physical copy
dies is it conceivable to assume that
that spark of awareness that is not
matched by the strength of your soul
is lost in limbo and that if a species
has cloned itself to the point of
exhaustion
it does not understand or cannot gain
access back to what we call creation
and there they have found a world that
uh reproduces
and it's possible that they are trying
to understand
themselves more through us or trying to
fill in those
missing gaps as it were so you know
perhaps from their
uh their side it could be desperation
and because a lot of what they achieve
certainly links into elements of the
paranormal
because it's like chasing shadows these
things have even been photographed
within the ether
and there are always two aspects to us
one physical one non-physical the same
with your mobile phone and signals so we
have to be very careful and as i said
before i'm very open to all
forms of speculation i will not
pigeonhole myself
and restrict myself the other thing is
that
interestingly is that as a conscious
entity as we are
the brain is the instrument that allows
consciousness to filter through to this
form memory soul whatever you want to
call it
but most people are operating on a
narrow field of conscious awareness
and it's possible that the grace
themselves has found entry
into within our realm through
consciousness
you know we have to think about that
because you know the brain
is after all is incredible organism and
uh more times than not it's shut down
through fear or
mental subjugation on some level or
control
but certainly i think like astronauts
that go out into space because they're
removed from their
their normal processing of time they
feel changed
and i think that when people have what
they call an abduction they feel changed
as well
and this may account for the periods of
missing time where
memory recall is very difficult um
you know one thing i always have to
bring up um is the fact that
you don't really hear the term abduction
anymore
i i don't i'm not interviewing a lot of
people who
who are saying that they they're having
this happen to them now
uh most people when it comes to ufos and
aliens for the most part from
at least from my perspective have you
know they call themselves
contactees and experiencers and they
love it i mean there's even the ce5
initiative
where they're trying to go out and make
contact for themselves to figure out
what's going on from moving from being
an armchair investigator to
i instead of them contacting me the ce5
is me going out and contacting them
under the night sky i've i've had my
fair share
of ce5 experiences by myself with groups
of people
had amazing experiences out of this
world
but when it comes to the abduction
term a lot of people have said that that
the abductions and the grades that's
kind of been
taboo and off limits now and that has
been phased out
over the years i mean how would you
respond to that is that something that's
still happening
because obviously from you know i guess
we'll go back to the you know late 40s
to
i would say 90s that in the 2000s
late 2000s i feel like it started to go
downhill you don't hear much about that
anymore
what what is your response to that well
it's interesting
and i and my brother and a friend of
mine susan
had performed a ce5 experiment all the
way back
on the 8th of june 1998 at reynolds from
forest in suffolk and we actually
only people say i don't believe it i
don't want i don't care we actually
um through our wishing or wanting
had viewed a spectacular craft that was
triangular
with a gap and a circle undercarriage
beneath it it was silent and it was like
a clock
one moving one way the other moving the
other and um
and as i ran towards it uh it's a long
story
but it disappeared like someone
switching the lights out so i do
understand we were performing our
experiments with c5
and i do acknowledge that there are good
entities there are angels
um spirit guides whatever you want to
call them um your angels are different
from spirit guides obviously but
but certainly i think that the
application of consciousness is very
interesting
and how we may be able to draw in these
different levels of reality
through a process of sending signals out
and getting them back
but not quite how we thought they would
come back
so we're studying the application of
consciousness and it is a real
phenomena it is not something that is
just whimsical
it is real but i think that because we
are
separated um from that vibrational level
of integration
that's why it comes in uh very briefly
and it goes out again because we're not
matched by the same density
they graze themselves yes there haven't
been as many reports of abductions i
totally agree with you
and i also sway also to the side
of the experiences you know people tend
to put people in pigeonholes
i was there myself i was put in a
pigeonhole myself so i understand and
empathize
with that completely so we've got to be
careful
when we're looking at the subject
because it shows that the phenomena
is evolving and perhaps it's meant to
evolve us
it's meant to move us forward into some
type of transgressional stage
of spirituality if i use that word um
but we can see certainly that there's
been a lot of changes
since the 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s
and into the 2000s so it has morphed
and of course we as we all know as
researchers the phenomena has also
morphed so it feels like
it's always one step ahead of us um and
you know you'll
you'll have the division of course you
will you'll have the negativity of
course you will
but i embrace that because i understand
now what is the deception part of your
work
what like how are we being deceived is
the government hiding this from us
how how are the uh how is the population
being deceived when it comes to
ufology ufos and the greys
well that all goes back to 1947
with as everyone knows the most famous
ufo case of all time
and people roll their eyes up thinking
oh well let's just ask two questions
about that first of all and this was the
inception of what we call
conspiracy because if the
object had been a secret mogul weather
balloon
as was the new terminology some years
later
uh retracting from the balloon
hypothesis
then why weren't the military themselves
watching it if it was so top secret why
did they
just forget about it and then some
rancher
a wonderful rancher mack brazile
happened to stumble upon the debris
and if it was that top secret why would
you then place fragments of this secret
weather balloon
on the front page of national newspapers
you know it didn't make any sense and we
know
at that point that the birthing of
conspiracy has started it wasn't the
beginning of the ufo
sightings no there were many many more
before that but i think
something unusual happened where such
entities perhaps
become into our reality solidified and
um you know and the rest is history
but the people behind it i don't think a
government
i think the governments tend our
governments world governments your
governments our governments
all governments their puppets you know
they come and go
so i believe that the uh secrets
are being held by a very small unit uh a
clanstein unit within the military
establishment who perhaps themselves
don't understand all of it
and you know usually plant
disinformation into the media circuits
to sway
uh researchers but what's also
interesting is that i believe that these
people
um nameless fame faceless bureaucrats
are also very interested in researchers
and what they're bringing to the table
and to see what they know so it's clear
uh in it
within its inception that they
themselves don't have all the answers
but there again if it was you know
proven
that there were such things as aliens
and ufos
how then would they be able to explain
this to the public
they couldn't even if you said we have
ufos and we have aliens we have their
technology
you know we have um so we've had
surviving members that have infiltrated
this plane of reality whatever form they
come in
how then are you going to explain that
to the public especially where the
abduction phenomena
is concerned and i believe that you know
this is why it's not as simple as that
you just have to mention on the national
use that there's a water shortage or a
food shortage or a fuel shortage and
you've got
mayhem so god help you know everyone
if they don't understand because if it's
coming from an official capacity
this will shake the very foundation of
course we've got some proof already
coming forward from the navy
as you know but it comes in and goes out
it dies it's not something that makes
the national
real national news there it is ladies
and gentlemen here it is
it's almost done quite um in a very
teaching way as it were you know a
teasing way
and uh left for you to sort it out and
then no more is said about it so
i don't think we're anywhere near to
disclosure just yet i think
all of the good souls like yourself many
other people who are doing the amazing
work and
following your belief system and what
you believe which is very
important i think that it's good for you
guys
all of us because we're happy doing that
but i think on a major scale no we'll
have a real problem on our hands
especially where religion is concerned
because that
that will throw the there's certainly a
lot into the uh
and to the apple cart yeah i mean i
think the pope even
even several years ago you know i guess
bracing for
um disclosure said that if they are real
there are space brothers and we need to
evangelize them and
different things like that and you know
and that's one thing that um
philip mantle was talking about just
knowing that i was a believer so he
he was okay so you judge this as a you
know
that that there's a god consciousness
and all of this it's it sets up
the way that you believe in a way that
you interpret and uh yes
and we read into things we um
you know we there's this um we tr we try
to look for
for experiences scenarios that fit our
our biases or
confirm our beliefs you know even though
that that they
may not be true may not be real that's
just what we do
uh as individuals i think all of us do
that but to look at the information for
what it is
if even if it contradicts hell most of
it does
um yes the interesting thing again for
me is with the ce5
initiatives and people going out making
their own
contact and so and it seems like to be
something that you would want to
to take to the next level because you
can because i don't believe that
disclosure is going to come from the
government
if it does i'm going to believe the
exact opposite
of whatever they tell us it is and most
likely they're going to tell us that
they're enemies or something like that
or we're under
attack for me i think that whether
they're the grays or what type of beings
maybe even the anunnaki some would say
that the graves were these
gods that created created us
yes they're coming back and working on
us and even upgrading our dna
hell this vaccine is a so-called upgrade
to your dna
you know it's it gets very tricky um
but i feel like they have been here
since the beginning since we were
primitive oh yeah what the wheel was and
what fire was and they've had this
advanced technology and they've been in
the underground oceans and and in caves
and in uh
mountains and some very strange things
that they're able to bi-locate
but um the spirituality for
me plays a big role into it like you
were saying talking about the
telepathic communication and that has
been something that i have experienced
on several occasions
of having a sighting something told me
hey look over there there's going to be
a ufo
and i just and it told me that i looked
boom there it is
and there was a jet flying across the
the sky
and it told me that the jet is flying
over here
to make me leave my position they're
gonna they're trying to you know get me
to leave so people won't see me
and as soon as i seen it it was during
the day
it and as soon as i seen the jet headed
right towards it
it just vanished and it like they wait
until you acknowledge them and they know
that they know that you see them
they say hello and they disappear a lot
of people would say that this is
the government like all of the ufo stuff
is the government
no but when it comes to the telepath of
communication that's where like
it throws a wrench in the government
stuff for me because it is a spiritual
connection like
of course but then they'll tell you that
the government has technology where they
can plant thoughts in your mind
well you know this is yeah this is very
dangerous territory but
you will know you as the individual
conscious awareness yourself will know
what you are picking up what
okay you don't have all the answers but
you feel it inside
and certainly going back to your very
interesting point i have
always believed that our species had
derived
from dare i said again extraterrestrial
intervention
because you just have to look around and
see that we are so weak we're not
adapted to this plane of reality because
we shy from our own sun
we don't have enough hair on our body to
protect us from the heat we're very weak
i do believe that a part of the hominid
was used to fashion the adam as it were
and thus the creation process started
but i always
have this romanticized version that the
gods then were
very different they were more like us i
suppose
and i believe that the greys could
perhaps
being a part of them or a faction of
them we don't know we can only speculate
but they do come across as like fallen
angels
um you know so they haven't done
themselves much favors that they want to
reach out that hand for
complete brotherhood but i also uh
completely believe
in higher beings because we're not just
talking about the grays here
there are other other interdimensionals
of reality and i've had my fair
share of those experiences very
enlightening experiences they
have not all been negative um so perhaps
our understanding of the way that we um
try to break it down
on a personal level we can be you know
completely wrong about the whole thing
so we we
have to be very careful but certainly uh
it makes me laugh
the ce5 and i love it but we had done
that back in 1998
not even realizing that's what it's
called today well i know what cu5 is for
today but
never knowing that that would be
something that people would be doing on
a larger scale because people looked at
you back then as if you were lying
or you're completely uh you've gone
round the bend
um but it's so refreshing and
interesting from my perspective that all
those
years ago that you know it makes me
smile people say
bring me the proof where's the proof
well we did this experiment
with no cameras and i don't care it
doesn't bother me
it was a personal thing that both myself
and my brother and susan uh back in
1998 8th of june uh had witnessed
and there was a latest one 9th of april
2016 our last sighting of three enormous
spherical crafts that have been filmed
by my niece someone that way and hung
above my bright brother's head
when we were coming back from a late
night meal with friends
and that's been recorded and so whatever
proof you bring to the table people say
oh i still don't believe i mean if
even if jesus christ stepped off a craft
or they'd stone him
before he had a chance to speak you know
i think he'll get thumbs down
i just told you if the president comes
and tell me tells me what what it is i'm
not going to believe him
the majority will but i just told you
i'm not going to
have our biases you know oh it's very
complex and you know we have to be very
uh also respectful because you know
i don't have all the answers i only have
a bunch of theories like many other
people
and what's what's also damaging to my
credibility is the fact that
i proclaim too many that i have had
what they call an abduction and being a
constant witness to ufos
um so as a researcher and as also as an
abductee stroke experiencer
it it kind of like doesn't put you in
good light but i always say to my
comrades that you know it's okay
um we form a bond and a trust and
integrity
and that's what we work with and we're
just trying to find the truth that's
what we're after
and you just put the information out
there and you look at it and
and find that piece to the puzzle and
eventually it formulates a picture and
there's many different sides and
of course oh yes oh yes absolutely and
we have to respect that because
you know we don't want to damage
someone's belief system which is very
very
uh destructive to the individual and it
is a process of belief also that shapes
our reality as individuals on a larger
scale or larger picture
there is a much bigger force operating
beyond this level of reality i can tell
you you know that as well and it guides
us or we feel sometimes guided by this
great power this force that is so
amazing
and so oh i can't find the words
majestic
that it makes us want to be part of that
love that unity that
intelligence of greatness and wisdom and
love and strength and power and all
these things
so you know we're still looking into
those areas and
we probably will be for a very very long
time
yeah it's um there's exploration there's
beauty there's creativity yes there's
imagination
there's all there's wonder i mean for me
the ce5
or any other any supernatural phenomenon
really but ce5 is one that
um i believe is you know that you can
recreate
terence mckenna you know the famous
psychonaut said
he's you know going in on psilocybin and
dmt and magic mushrooms and he would go
into
the other realms and communicate with
entities yes call them the machine
elves and these elves would communicate
with them and tell them things about
reality and
how things work and he would try to hold
on to something and bring it back and
write it down and he would just stay in
this
he's going into this other realm you
know and so
um the shamans did the same the shamans
did the same they
perform these initiations to uh
deliberately
force the soul the consciousness away
from the physical body to
enter these spheres but we live in a
system unfortunately
that is telling us that certain things
not right only because it wants control
and order
and it turns everything round to make it
look like you're a bad person i'll go
and buy that lovely great big
you know um range rover and then you get
slept on the hand
for guzz being a gas guzzler so my
argument is they give it one hand then
slap it in the other
you find your happy medium and what
works for you
to find your answers as long as it's not
harming anyone else and you're not
really harming yourself at all
then go for it i always say you know
just you know it's your journey
everyone's too too quick to point the
finger and put you in a little box and
tell you that you're wrong and bring you
down no no no no no
no that's not not the way that uh we see
things around here
especially where this subject matter is
concerned yeah um
speaking about the demons again you know
the angels and demons and that whole
thing
um what one of the things that i think
that many
uh religious people get wrong
or they mix the two together is because
we're you know you mentioned fairies
that your grandmother said it could have
been fairies that were coming to visit
or whatever
like i feel like there's a lot of
different entities that there are
what we would call angels there are what
we would call a senator oh yes
oh yes all types of entities so i i
really do feel like the christian
or the the religious people are maybe
having these
encounters with with demons with lower
level entities
and tying it in to ufology and
just because they had a being appear in
their room and paralyze them and scare
them
or whatever they did a ghost whatever it
could have been anything
i feel like a lot of people are reading
into and saying that it was an alien
that these are aliens that these were
grays or
or whatever these these malicious uh uh
these beings
malicious intent were aliens and i feel
like they're
you know i feel like it's the easy way
out versus saying that there are
multiple things that they could be yes
yes there are
there are multiples of of dimensions of
awareness
you know we see things on a in a flat
way in a flat like a flat line and we're
cut off from the other
dimensions through the uh the infrared
spectrum
and there probably are you know an
eternal amount of other realities
that coexist or we can connect with on
uh unique
um in unique ways as it were
so you know clairvoyance remote viewing
healing astral
travel shamanic experiences it goes on
and on
but i respect every single
one of them because it's showing us more
about consciousness the soul
creation and our part as individuals
within this grand scheme of life and i
believe that the system that we serve
has deliberately
hampered our ability to think outside
the box
and program us on a very limited version
of reality
saying that is right that is wrong don't
look into the past
because this is how it happened and
we're finding now that this is all wrong
so in the future we will have a new
science of the mind
and i believe that there will be centers
where people can you know just about do
what they want
uh whether it be astral travel or remote
viewing or shamanic experiences
you know um i think they're all amazing
and they're wonderful
so um you know i always laugh and joke
with people and say well i'm always up
for it you know
[Laughter]
you've got to have a sense of humor yeah
oh you definitely do
you definitely do but it you know
there's in the end you you have more
questions and
and i've had oh listen i've had a lot of
experiences i've had
you know facilitated experiences
that it would definitely seem like i was
making it up like because people go
through life
and they never have any and then here's
here's
myself and many other individuals who
who have had many
more than one repeatable that you go out
and you look for them and they happen
you ask for it and it shows up
in the way of consciousness in in the
evolution of consciousness and what
you're expecting
shows itself to you um it is very
interesting as well
um yeah but yeah you know uh uf
ufology aliens angels all of those
things
um yes well this is why i got involved
in the spiritual aspect to
like even if it's real just to you
that's the interesting thing like
because i wanted to ask you because
we're talking about consciousness we're
talking about beings that are able to
um create or or you know
take away matter pull you out of your
spirit
maybe even create if they are creators
like
what about the connection that we have
with them or just the way the mind the
spirituality works is that like
almost like not the law of attraction
but if you believe it it you created it
like what if that you know that that ce5
initiative that you went out there you
wanted it so bad that it appeared
and there's there's definitely done
studies where other people were able to
you know imagine certain things
happening and the law of attraction and
manifestation and all this stuff
sometimes it takes
time maybe yeah something that's going
on with the consciousness but
in any of the ce5 stuff it's almost not
instant but it's within a few hours
maybe
that this you can connect
yes maybe it didn't
exist until you projected that thought
that
this ship or this light came and said
hello
well you know the mind as i said and
consciousness is amazing and this may be
the actual
facilitation of the whole of creation
and that in this life we walk
through one single life here on this
planet we may go through varied numbers
of them i believe that
but we may not get the full answers
until we ourselves returned back to
source or
to our real place of origin as it were
you know and it could be possible that
we are projecting this or sending a
signal out for it to come in so that we
change
or transform on some deeper level of the
psyche of the soul
one of the things i will tell you that
through the main abduction that i had in
1989 one of the characters
that was in it a grey i seem to
recognize
him and it was very scary and um
but also yeah you know i i felt as
though they were old
that's the only way i can explain it i'm
not saying he looked old but they
felt old and there is another researcher
pierre sabacc um an author who has
kind of like put some pieces together
with regards to the abduction that i
missed
because if you're honest and completely
everything on the table
he's been able to put a piece to that
together and i was like wow
and there were also psychic uh
impressions
that i had afterwards that i'm still
trying to work out
um and i'm not saying that this was
given by the grace to me no
but it's possible that these had come in
the form of some
conscious opening or awareness that
happens to all of us so we are looking
at multiple
dimensional entities realities
and consciousness is the main component
that seems to be responsible for
this interesting i agree with what you
say are we
creating this on a subconscious level
ourselves and it comes back to us
that has also crossed my mind um
as also that you know we as a genus
were created from a blank canvas
somewhere and perhaps the greys
are trying to remind us are perhaps of
the dangers if we start to clone
people um you know we we don't know um
i'm not going to go too far
down that road because i think i may be
falling into some very
uh difficult uh waters but certainly
the greys and many other
interdimensional beings are a reality
they come into our reality temporarily
because we're not matched by the same
frequency so they can only
use a certain amount of time or energy
to manifest
um and that either we're matched by that
density all day with us it doesn't
matter there's an integration process
yes uh and it's temporary it's temporary
um but i believe that's uh that's
something that's really incredible and
uh something that we're still looking
into
researching so you know a lot of these
things are in
you the public to see the grand ufo
deception along with some amazing
accounts as well
um and philip mantle ufo royalty we call
him
over here in england
has been enormous help and it's good
that we bash out
all our thoughts and ideas but you'll
still get people saying well you're
wrong or you're barking up the wrong
tree
and that's fine i've got past that point
of be
feeling hurt from the general public
from people who attack you
uh through uh you know media means
um and it's like it's okay i i
understand
because you don't understand and i and i
really respect that now
so it's okay people say i don't believe
you say well that's great
you know what i've seen if you if you
were there in 1994
you you might have a different
experience um
yeah and there's a level of respect and
the interesting thing for me now
and i noticed this coming from religion
of being
one who used to proselytize and try to
convince people of my way of thinking
and the way of living and stuff
now i'm not really into that anymore but
i do still have a message i still
have ideas that i'm trying to get out
but i don't care if you believe them or
not
you know i'm just sharing them it's a
beautiful thing now because um
people find you you don't even
i'm not trying to hey check out my show
like every now and then but for the most
part listen
if you want if you this the google
if you look up if you're interested in
ufology
and you're interested in all of the
topics that we cover the topics that you
cover people are gonna find you
you don't have to go out there and sell
yourself and try to get the world to
believe that this is what's going on
listen here's my research
and it's and it's there and because of
the internet now we just have people
from all over the world
who resonate with your work who are who
are interested in
what you've devoted your life to and
then they just come along
and and they learn and they share and
all of that and so that is it's so
amazing now
that we don't have to really care what
people think you're going to have people
who are going to scoff but there's
other people that say hey your work has
changed my life and i've had it
that's wonderful and you know i always
say to them if they don't i say let me
see if i can try and find the zip
and pull the mask off it's always they
look at you
as if you're saying oh it's a joke you
know
i've got a wicked sense of humor and you
need that because you know in
a lot of the real tough work that we're
challenged with
um with regards to the research and
applying the theoretical models that we
do
is fascinating and um and i'm i will
continue
to do that and until the the last breath
that i take
on this uh planet that we call earth
um but it is interesting and i love the
people that i connect with
i'm very much uh you know very grateful
to them
and um you know you can only do what you
can do but it's really strange because
through all the years and years and
years that i've been
seeking for that truth and then you know
trying to get published by publishers
and then getting published by publishers
and
going forward and then losing the
publishers because they pass
and finding philip and other people it's
a journey
and i'm more than happy to put into the
lap of
the younger generation what we know
because
you are the mental you carry the mental
you carry the light because
you're going to be here for a long time
when most of us
people have left departed you see and
we'll but we'll have we may have the
answers then
[Laughter]
yeah i mean i love i you know i i
dedicate my work
to to many researchers and i do music i
put a lot of my ufo experiences in my my
spirituality within my music and i
dedicate the albums to
these researchers who have who are long
gone and
the interesting thing when we do our
research on that there there were
a lot of people who had a lot to say in
the past
uh that we can we can draw from whether
it is you know
ufology spirituality all of it and so i
definitely like to echo and and turn new
people
onto a lot of old work that we don't
have to re recreate the wheel
when it comes to a lot of this either so
it's really brilliant
thanks for coming on man i really
enjoyed this talk let people know where
they can go to
uh check out your your work your books
and everything that you're bringing to
the table what's the best place for
people to go to check out your work
well amazon you know that's the normal
place we all know amazon it's the safest
place and at least we as authors know we
get
get paid from them that's like the other
publishers
um and i'm on facebook and you know you
just type in my name and
you know there there we are but i i want
to thank you because we're all
important we're all special no no one
you know no one's the
number one we are all linked together
and i think that's the important message
uh to tell everyone that keep doing your
own research and believing what
you believe what it makes it feel right
for you so
don't change for anyone but i want to
thank you certainly
for having me on your most excellent
show and i'm always very grateful i
never seek it
but i'm more than happy to talk if
people want to talk to me
for sure thank you so much phillip
really enjoyed it man let's do it again
god bless take care god bless bye-bye
philip kinsella ladies and gentlemen
good talk listen
a lot of different opinions i'm watching
the chat a lot of different opinions a
lot of different
belief systems when it comes to uh all
of this stuff
and uh what if they're all true again
the consciousness thing
what if what you believe shows itself to
you so there's people who would say that
these are demons and
you know what what if that is your truth
what if what if
demons are showing themselves to you
what if they are apparent to you
uh but what if they are angels what if
it is the angelic
what if it is what some would say
um what would they say that they are
us from the future that
is it is us that is highly evolved
coming back to say hello to ourselves as
in us maybe not you but maybe um
humans who have evolved millions of
years later
coming back say hello what if they're
just people from other star systems
other dimensions that was the thing with
the inter interdimensionals is what
he kept saying and there's a lot of
people who definitely
use that term interdimensional that you
know obviously the flat earthers use
that term because they say space isn't
real space doesn't exist it's uh
it's not what we think it is so there is
no entities living on other planets or
traveling from star systems but they
are interdimensional beings that travel
here
the avatar thing is very interesting
that we have the ability to go into
other
realms that we need a suit
you guys remember the movie avatar right
where they had to create
this character to go and but it wasn't
really another realm maybe them
when we get into technology it's like
the lawnmower man
i mean facebook youtube
personas that you create a version of
you that exists
in another realm in in technology
facebook and all this stuff this
is the internet this is a persona it's
you exist
as that avatar i mean it definitely
happens within technology there are
games
called second life you know there are
games that
people play that are really popular
second life is a big one
where people will create an avatar a
character of themselves and they can
rename it they can make it look however
they want
and they can project themselves in that
game and live as that character
and talk to the ai talk to the npcs the
non-playable characters
have dialogue all that stuff and then
other people can drop into that realm as
well
like other real people can create their
character and then they do stuff
there's people who get jobs on the game
like they have to instead of going to a
real job
they log into this game and they go
and do a job for hours on end some of
them are getting really
realistic to like your police officer
your construction worker and literally
you go to these jobs and you generate
income and coins in that game
that you can't you can't spend in this
world
like in in your real reality you can't
spend that money but in that game
you can build a nice house you can
create a beautiful family
you can have your kids that listen to
you and look up to you and respect you
whatever that again you can create the
life that you want within that ai that
realm that is not real
but it's real to you while you're there
the dream state
movies all of this stuff it's very
interesting it is a realm
remember a game called lord of the
realms
and it was very similar you know you
were able to go into the
the game and and have these people that
you made allies with and packs with and
every time you go back into that game
you get to say hello
there's tons of movies based on this
stuff but
what about again the terence mckenna who
goes into
the shamanic realm of
psilocybin and ayahuasca and all of this
stuff dmt
and they're revisiting friends they're
seeing
people in this other realm that
they get to say hello to what about when
you sleep have you guys ever had that
experience like when you go to sleep
and you dream y'all ever been to a place
that's familiar
you do you have friend what about
friends when you dream like people
who show up to you and and they're your
friends and
and you don't know them in real life but
in the dream you know them
and you've had multiple dreams where
that person keeps showing up
you have a friend in their dream state
it gets deep um i don't know how on
earth i don't even know that it's
unethical that
if we look at it you have to put
you have to walk a mile in their shoes i
don't know how
unethical it would be for the
abduction stuff to really even be
happening if you wanted to there are
other realms that exist
they don't speak most of them don't
speak english but i guess the
more we would say advanced species of
aliens communicate telepathically
they communicate without words some
communicate
sign language pictographs
there's different ways that they
communicate
it's interesting to think about um
it's just like an ant how how would you
essentially an aunt lives and
they have their own world
and aunt has you can't speak english to
an ant
and train it and it knows what you're
saying again philip was even talking
about this what if we drop
our cell phones in an ant pile
and the ants build around it do they
they don't even know how to work this
technology
probably even in a million years 10
million years they would
most likely they could not evolve
to the fact that they were able to even
power this thing on and get in here and
pull up my facebook
and message my stalkers
like it's just foreign to them
they they couldn't use it they can't you
can't communicate with them
um they exist and and that's something
physical i guess this is a physical too
because i always like to tie in the
spirituality of the spirit realm
to the biological realm
in the microscopic realm the microscopic
organisms
that live on your body
you can't talk to them hey man stop
fight
you know they're literally fighting one
another right now like if we go get some
soap
and wash your hands or
take medicine there's just wars and
battles going on on your body with
living organisms that live on you living
your hair you know peop
they live all over your body and they're
living there you can't communicate with
them you can't talk to them
they can affect you though so how how
would you do it like how could you like
to communicate with them
very interesting to watch those videos
of the microscopic organisms fighting
one another
there'll be like these little amoebas or
whatever and
another one will come and he's doing
he's going around eating these little
little pieces of trash or something i
don't know what they're eating it's very
interesting it's a world within a world
that's happening on you they go around
and they eat this little
like pac-man just eating these little
pieces of trash and a big one will come
up and just eat him and he digests him
and
he becomes a part of him
that's crazy gut rot
gut bacteria um
your gut biome that all of this stuff is
communicating and becoming a part of you
rap master saying yeah you got to eat
healthy
yeah because that just like that
organism
eats another organism and it becomes a
part of them whatever you eat becomes a
part of you
we're getting deep going from one
subject to the next but you see how it's
all connected
but how do you communicate with those
entities you have to become that entity
you have to become a multi-celled
organism
and shrink down to their level i mean
this even ties into religion with jesus
as people believe that jesus is god
that god's trying to communicate with us
and we can't
hear him he created us but we don't
listen
so he had to become one of us and walk
down here with
us to communicate
and we killed them live right love one
another
stand up for the broken feed the hungry
and they killed them
so god left his throne his dimension
and incarnated as an avatar into our
dimension
so that he can talk to us so that he can
lead and guide and and help
and they kill him
what else is like what's the difference
with the alien scenario
if we if most people say
it's likely we already have have
alien technology or crashed ufo
we're doing experiments on them we do it
on monkeys we do it on
animals we're doing it our government is
definitely running tests on these beings
and
chaining them up and putting them in
cages
so why would they not do it to us
to run a test and experiments on us come
down and experiment and see what makes
us tick what makes us scared
yeah show them images of war see what
happens show them them their planet
exploding see how they feel
or they move with empathy they can read
your auric field in your emotions
ma'am
some of them react this way others don't
care
some people like it some people like it
when when
when the plant we show them a a image of
their planet being destroyed and they
like it
they hate people they like it and so
like
we're getting it i don't think that from
your perspective it was
unpleasant you didn't like it i was
taken out of my bed and brought on this
ship and they'd done these tests on me
look at it you have to look at it from
you always have to put the shoe on the
other foot you have to put yourself
in their shoes and see what's going on
because i think that it's it's bigger
than just us
and uh the ufo phenomena alien
abduction scenarios and all of that very
interesting very near and dear to my
heart
i have a different relationship with a
lot of that now
it started out with evil aliens
evil angels demons all that kind of
stuff but it progressed into
the angelic put palladians you know what
i'm saying
beings of light love
and they vibrate at a higher frequency
you do have fallen entities fallen
angels are real
but i don't think that they're riding
around in spacecraft that they created
put it that way fallen angels are real
how did they if fall read my book you
know where i'm going but
they were kicked out of heaven
it doesn't take too much research to
look up and see what heaven is
heaven is the sky
have when you look up at the clouds and
the stars and the sun and the moon
you're looking and you're gazing into
the heavens
it's the same words that's used there in
the greek and the hebrew
heaven is the sky
when you do do the research and then
these
these angels were kicked out of heaven
if you're kicked out you don't get to
just fly back to heaven when you
create a spacecraft and fly through the
skies they're here on the earth with
people
they're here with us they're not up
there
beauty benevolence all wonder creativity
guidance all of that
is from above if you listen to my music
you know that's a big part of it
so yeah i'm big into it uh man thank you
all for hanging out
thank you for hanging out um i had a
tick tock video that uh
it's very interesting that uh tick tock
video went kind of went viral overnight
it's interesting that i'll put the same
video on
all the platforms instagram youtube
facebook
i get 20 views 30 views 118
views on um
on youtube you know the we did the thing
where we went out and gave
uh a guy on side the road who was in a
wheelchair
selling uh candies and cokes and stuff
we gave him 500
but that was donated from other people i
didn't give him my money
other people donate it so that we can do
that we've done two videos already
and they get 30 views 40 views you know
um but i put on tick tock
last night let me look and see how many
views it is
i'm saying that because i want y'all to
follow me on tick tock i'm probably
about to start using it more
definitely has more organic reach
and uh it's pretty fun but i'm gonna try
to look at
how many i put a video up yesterday
let's see and it is at
50 000 views no it's not going to focus
but
50 000 views um
i made a one minute snippet out of a 10
minute video very hard to do
but um
y'all follow me on there it's kind of
blown up pretty cool
more reach and it's so weird to me
because i haven't had a lot of
like easy organic reach in years i used
to
definitely in the early days of youtube
and facebook and all that when you
when you like when you built up your
page and built up your audience and you
put something out it would let everybody
see it
they don't do that anymore um
i i get 30 views
you know so it's very strange to uh
be have put something out that goes
viral i used to all of my podcasts used
to be super viral on youtube
like i said i've been doing this for a
long time um
now everybody has a podcast but i
remember putting um
putting out youtube uh videos and and
live streams and all that and i'd get 50
60 000 views
on whack content like it wasn't even
that quality was real bad all of that
stuff
and um but it's real but it's it's went
down over time
uh it's cr it's more crowded right
the uh everyone's a creator everyone's
doing
the same stuff you're doing now so to be
a pioneer doing that stuff early on
uh it's changed over the years so i
don't get a lot of
viral videos anymore you know i so to
see that video
overnight blow up to 50 000 views it's
pretty cool
follow me on tick tock i may do some
more on there it's pretty creative
tic toc got us through the pandemic man
it's getting us through the pandemic
tick-tock is
tick-tock made us all laugh
made us all focus our attention on other
stuff when they're trying to scare us on
the
television and scare us with the news
and
millions are gonna die millions upon
millions are gonna die and
they got us all scared i was like man
turn the tv off and put on tick tock man
let's just scroll and laugh and look at
funny cat videos and parents pulling
pranks on their kids and stuff i'm
telling you
tic toc got us through the pandemic and
is getting us through the pandemic
follow me on tick tock that's the
platform type in truth seeker on tick
tock
you'll love it i'm trying to get
creative with it i have a bunch of um
my songs on there where um i just
i go back and forth rapping a couple
bars and other people are duetting it
and and finishing the lyrics or whatever
like wrapping my songs
with me it's pretty cool so you can do
it videos and do that
a bunch of really cool stuff
inspirational stuff um
we're going to keep doing it too and so
if anybody wants to give
because we're going to create more
videos we've already got people
continuing to give i did one
i wanted to do it asked for a donation
we went out and did the homeless video
we gave this dude
we spent a thousand dollars on a random
homeless guy
i put it out there i wanted to do it
everybody donated
we made a thousand bucks and i went out
and
we wined and dined him took him out to
eat took him to walmart hey buy whatever
you want he was just
traveling through he was just on the
road walking hey you need a ride boom
yeah jumped in
that's a long video too i'm gonna turn
that into a short clip too
you know people's attention spans are
short they ain't got time to get to the
juice
or the meat the juicy part or the meat
and potatoes they just want it
there so boom i'm gonna edit that 10
minute video or 20 minute
video into a one minute video and make a
little highlight reel it's very hard to
do
but i'ma do that so the full videos are
up you can watch them on youtube
if you want to watch the full videos but
if not you can watch the little one one
minute clips too so
um we've done two so far we're gonna do
more our
people are giving people are donating to
this cause
if you want to do it my cash app go to
my cash app on my um
venmo um but follow me on on those other
platforms too so we're gonna do more
videos i had somebody donate a lot
large amount they want to be with me
when i shoot it so we're just gonna go
out helping people man making it famous
man
you know what i'm saying doing videos
that inspire people
to do good works people oh why you gotta
film it
because y'all filming you they got a
video went viral this week it's a dudes
slapping another guy with like a a p
uh a t y'all seen that video right the
guy's calling him the n-word
back-to-back
and the dude grabs a can of tea and
millions upon millions upon millions of
views funny
um he got what was coming to him and
there's a bunch of other videos of
people
um doing negative stuff that gets viral
that goes famous
uh challenges the condom challenge
ever heard of that that was viral for a
little while
kids were doing it what is it take a
condom
snort it up your nose reach in your
mouth and pull it out your mouth
these were challenges that got real
popular that went viral
stupid stuff the knockout challenge what
was that
find a random person walk up behind him
hit him as hard as you can somebody you
don't know and try to knock him out
they were doing it to old people
young thugs going up behind old people
knocking them out
for no reason knockout challenge went
viral guess what
we're gonna do beautiful challenges
we're gonna make
you know inspirational videos and make
that go viral
we should be doing it whether recording
it or not so
um the twisted t
uh but so do oculus virgins what is that
is that oh people for the first time
playing is that what you mean
chris the oculus version is like the
first time they they play oculus
um yeah so if y'all seen that that's on
i need to put it on tick tock it's not
on tick tock but my buddy phil came over
the other day and uh let me see if i can
probably show this to you guys
if you're gonna listening to the podcast
app which most people are listening on
the podcast you're not gonna be able to
see this but
let me see if i can um
show this on
the video if that's what you meant by
oculus virgin's first time playing
uh oculus
what is this called i gotta fix this
stuff me and webb
that's not the screen it's gonna be the
other one so
sorry for this guys there's zoom so
that's
me i'll fix this real quick on stream
try to anyway boom
oh
that should be it yeah okay
for those of you who are are listening
you're not really getting to see much
but
or hear much but i'm going to show you
this video he said uh oculus version so
this is my uh
i did one with my wife but my buddy phil
came over
i think the day after christmas or
christmas eve or something let's see if
i can find it
it's my facebook page if you're not
following me follow me on facebook
um right here
this is my buddy phil let me see i have
to change here we go
hold on don't hit me phil man huh you're
good
whoop his butt phil
grab something at the bar
you got to get him off of you first
there you go hit him in the jaw oh he
duck
oh got him phil grab something at the
bar pick it up
[Laughter]
wait
grab something at the bar phil
[Laughter]
they're coming here they're coming
they come before you the big dude oh
he's gonna be hard
is that what you're talking about
because i let him play this is his first
time
and then i have uh one called richie's
plank
exp experience or something and um
you get an elevator and i put i turned
it on for him and uh
and and he didn't know what it was and i
turned it on and i told him to get in
the elevator so he gets an elevator i
said push a little button right there go
up to the top floor
so he pushes the button and he's in the
oculus or whatever and it takes him to
the top floor
and then the elevator opens up and he
gets out and he's like
way up in this on the skyscraper looking
down like he's been to fall
and i was like and there's a little
bitty plank out in front of him i said
get out
get out and get out and walk across the
plane he said no
he i tried to grab his shirt and pull
him
he's just like a lot of people fall down
and do little funny stuff their first
time playing it it's a trip
so anyway uh little fun stuff like that
if you don't follow me on tick tock i'll
probably be doing a lot more stuff on
there
because i'm getting more reach we do
these videos and
and stuff when we get 100 views man you
know what i'm saying
and freaking getting 50 000 views on
tick tock
the algorithms man they're suppressing a
lot of this stuff they i'm
most of my stuff won't even show up in
google if you look at a lot of my songs
if you try to find a music video
you can't find them if you try to find
like
you can type in my name and the name of
the song it won't even bring it up it'll
bring you something by blake
shelton what the heck you type in true
seeker flight to the navigator
and it pulls up blake shelton friday
night lights
something hey what the hell nobody
listen
seo all of this stuff should work up if
you're looking for it
why would it why would it give you
something else besides the video
um it seems to fluctuate i only think
that it is um
something i've complained about this a
lot it messes you up
it definitely messes you up i do
complain about this a lot it sucks
but it fluctuates so let me see if i can
show you here so we're on uh my youtube
and sometimes sometimes it works other
times it doesn't so let's just try a
couple
um sometimes i'll get on here and it
works so all of this complaining is in
vain
but other times i get on it and i can't
find myself nowhere
so let's just but i have to search for
myself let's try
true seeking flight
of the n-a-v-i-g-t-o-r flight as a
navigator
okay that comes up now it used to not
come up i had to keep looking for it
let's see true seeker
hopefully hopefully they fixed it let's
see if um
what is some more of my songs that i got
videos too let's see golden teachers
boom looking good looking good
um disciples of the mysterium
disciples of the it's on the official
page so that's working let's see
uh seems to be working better now but
there was a time where all of this stuff
was
hidden um let's say true seeker
starlight huh that's great
love it glad i'm proved wrong at this
now
but there definitely was a time where
this stuff wasn't coming up when i typed
in the name of it
can't hate on that can't hate on that
all right guys um
tc texas says my brother i made it i
love you what's up man
uh twitter is getting a lot worse with
the same situation that luminous says
yeah man my twitter game sucks always
has
i get zero reach on twitter never never
gotten anything
even when my facebook was popping like
i've been stuck at like almost
like 15.5 000 views
uh and i don't get any new
new reach i don't get any um
i don't get anything on that sucks there
was a time where it was popping
it was popping for sure reached a lot of
people
but now you gotta pay so with that i'm
gonna say peace y'all
really enjoyed this y'all have a happy
new year man stay safe out there
and uh it's gonna be good so
i'll holla at y'all later um we'll do
more
we got more coming shalom peace
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