Removing Blocks To Receive Healing | Ralph Havens | TruthSeekah Podcast

Removing Blocks To Receive Healing | Ralph Havens | TruthSeekah Podcast
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my guest today is ralph havens ralph we
booked this a while back i'm
glad that we're finally doing it brother
welcome to the true secret podcast my
friend how are you
thank you derek i am super excited to be
here and um
it'll be really cool to um to be with
you talk with you and um
and and go go into the healing stuff
yeah there was a bunch of stuff that you
covered man so it's really like you know
kind of
kind of take our pick and i'm sure we
can talk about it all but you know
removing those blockages
uh is is big it's huge identifying
blockages is even bigger
you know so a lot of people think we're
good i went through inner
inner healing like man in 2001 i think
it was and received so much breakthrough
and changed my life but it's easy for me
to say yeah i already did that
you know i did that in 2001 but it's
like a continual thing that
once we moved those blocks out of the
way hold on there was
uh other guys hiding behind this stuff
and there's bitterness and there's
resentment and then there's competition
and all of these deep rooted issues man
uh let's talk a little bit about the
blocks and stuff like that we'll get
into that but
i guess to start i always like to jump
the gun but i guess to start let people
know who you are what you bring to the
table we'll start there then get into
these blockages
sure so i um i resonate with your work a
lot because
as a kid i was reading the bible a lot
and i don't even know for sure what i
was looking for
with my mind but um this jesus guy and
this healer thing and
um and just to be happy and at peace was
a thing
and i would read it and go that's that's
that's it but um
but then i would go be mean to my sister
and i was full of a lot of pain and
angst and
and i had an abusive thing going on and
um
and so i was um i was looking
and then throughout college i um
i thought i wanted to be a doctor but i
realized no i want to be a doctor i just
want to run
because i was a distance runner and and
um
but i was always asking people stuff
like um
okay your pain or your problem how was
it at night how was it um
when you're what does it hurt when you
move and i was asking these questions
but i didn't know what the answers meant
at all but i was already kind of going
down this road
and i had this really crazy thing where
i had um severe severe anxiety
and a really weird problem where my
hands sweated a lot
and i could sweat in an instant i mean
if i was around a big guy or a rich guy
or a powerful guy or a doctor
you know and i got into physical therapy
but if i was around these kind of people
my hands were sweating i was always
trying to open a window of
i would instantly all of a sudden my my
whole shirt would be sweated
and um and i really really really wanted
to fix this thing but i didn't know i
thought there might be a way i didn't
want to be a really old guy
still with this problem and that was my
big thing and
and um and what happened was i used to
control my anxiety with um running
and it didn't control it that well but i
used to run 70 80 900 miles a week
and at one point i couldn't run anymore
i had a severe
spasm in my leg and after eight
eight eight months a person put their
hand out a therapist put their hand on
my foot and said you have a problem with
your heart
and so she worked on me for two hours
using these energetic techniques
that i now know and a couple days later
i thought i think i can go for a run
and i went for a run and i was totally
good and i started to learn about
this idea that everybody's body no
matter where there are with any kind of
physical condition
is doing the best it can do and what
it's doing
is protecting us and it can be
protecting us from physical stuff like
with me my arteries and my heart
it could be protecting people from a
spiritual pain like i had a lady that
had severe pain and had a car wreck and
nothing was healing
and we found deep grief in her lungs and
when we cleared that
she was asking what's why is this
working and i told her and she then she
told me the back story
of who had died in her life and i'm like
oh and i didn't have to go
think it out or work with it or um that
kind of stuff
but there was a way to clear that and
what i have for people today
is something that's um i think you would
love and your readers your listeners
would love
because they if they test something
beforehand
like you know they got on the show and
they they were a certain way beforehand
and then after the show they can just
retest their neck
their back their movement how they feel
the synchronicity in life
and just notice what's different even if
you can't say oh well it what couldn't
have been from that
but just notice and one of my guiding
principles through all of my stuff
has been something has to change i have
to see
you know here they are um here was
something we did
and here they're different and not like
in a year from now not like a month from
now i mean like
in a moment like you you're interacting
and then something has to be different
and then you could see what else is
different and what i found is if we can
find those um
things we're protecting ourselves from
then it can clear
and it's quite different um as far as
like looking it's right in the open
and i can talk about that and um and
it's very accessible it's not like a
mystical
how do you do this and do you need extra
skills i've got lots of skills
but um but i learned some of my best
stuff from
people from a plumber my wife says they
should tell the story of like the
barista the plumber
and the business coach because i learned
so much healing
from those guys and so i love the way
you combine the whole
um spirit and business stuff
because one of the biggest spiritual
journeys is to go um
give your gift to the world and to
charge money for it
it brings up a lot of stuff oh yeah and
so i've got i want to play with that and
now we can do it with you with your
listeners if anybody's chatting
if somebody has a problem and they want
to fix it
or a desire um we can play right now
let's do it i mean there's a lot of
people i know personally who are
listening and
i get those messages and i i went
through it and i still go through it the
money thing you know
but i know that once i and it is a block
like you once you get over that block
then breakthrough happens
and it's really like a mental assessment
of like just reprogramming your thoughts
or even your relationship
with what it means to receive money or
to get paid to do what i love because
there's so many uh ungodly beliefs there
because we think that money means hard
work that
because we had fun like you shouldn't be
able to get paid for having fun you know
what i'm saying
but on every job that we tried to have
fun we tried to make it a lighter work
environment to make people laugh and
that kind of stuff but
what would you say for those people who
are dealing with those blocks there's
people
i think even the biggest thing even if
they get over
receiving money is okay i'm gonna charge
for this it's the fear of
if i tell someone my peers are going to
make fun of me
you know they grew up with me they they
know who i am and now i'm charging for
these
healing sessions and they know that i
have other problems in other areas but
i'm trying to charge and you know so
much that comes up with it and those are
some of the blocks yeah
how would we get over that
so so here's here's the um here's what i
found
is whatever
is bringing up angst so if it's money
and money's a great one
um you know charging for stuff um the
idea that spiritual healing shouldn't
cost money
or who are you imposter syndrome or some
sort of thing like that
um whatever that is
is thoughts and of course they're
connected to lots of other thoughts and
they're connected to beliefs and there's
connected to stuff that happen
throughout life and
and all these things but there's
something more upstream something
primary
and what you know when you get betrayed
um
it hurts physically like you feel it in
your gut or in your heart
you know um heart sadness is an actual
physical pain
and um betrayal and um
all sorts of you know loss and different
um
emotional things anxiety fear depression
rage all those things they you feel it
and so the key what i found is
the the feeling is where it's at and so
what what um what i noticed is if we can
um
take away the um the judgments about it
like okay i'm gonna charge money or i've
got this thing going on or this big
problem happening
and then just go okay well what's
happening in my body
and you might go well there's anxiety
here i feel a stress of it
it's like wait a second that's a
judgment it's like you know if
somebody's on a roller coaster
their hands are sweating their their
hearts racing and they're super happy
and somebody's on the freeway and
they're spinning out of control on a red
highway their hands are sweaty they're
out their hearts racing
and they're in total terror and so it's
a judgment and so there's a way to just
go
what's actually the physical sensation
and then the key is
to just notice it and to notice it
without trying to change it
just to sit with it just to sit with it
like you pull a lawn chair up
and you're just gonna hang out with it
and it's kind of like my little boy
baden when he was born
he he great delivery everything was good
and he cried and cried and cried for 10
or 15 minutes
and my wife was like oh look he's
telling us about what happened
he's like oh my god i was pushed and
then there was this and then there was
this light and he smells it
and then and he's like and then he was
done and then he latched on and he was
just like
happy as a little little baby and um and
so
these these um feelings once they're
felt and experienced without judgment
just sitting there with it
it's done being felt and then what
happens at that point is
all the thoughts and beliefs and and
programming is gone
and the way we know it is you think
about the problem again
and it doesn't bug you it's like wow i
don't
feel any angst like the guy's not gonna
pay me money he owes me money he
betrayed me
i don't feel anything and so it's what
the mystics have talked about for years
to be
at peace with something to be at peace
without it but
but not by talking yourself into it by
just going and sitting with the actual
physicalness
of what it brings up and so then that
obstacle is the way
is actually the way not in like airy
fairy or
um try to think of positive thought but
actually like oh my god
this is the gift so i had a time when a
lot of people were asking
for their money back i had this crazy
guarantee thing and and all of a sudden
a month later everybody's asking for
their money back
it was their own inner beliefs and their
own interferes and um and
my wife and i would get the email um and
we'd see the the headline of the email
and we're like oh god another one and it
got to the point where we're like oh
this is so good
this is awesome because we go feel this
you know we had a month with like in the
super negative
and we'll feel this in our bodies and
we're going to be at a whole nother
level
so every obstacle every pain everything
even every desire
yeah there's a feeling and if you just
go notice it
um it's magic yeah it's valid it's the
part of it's the ego trying to save you
from hurt you know because you've been
in situations and i don't want to tell
people that i'm charging because they
they're going to make fun of me and
listen we don't need to make you know we
don't need to get made fun of again
you know what it feels like to be made
fun of let's just save the trouble
but it's like your ego trying to trying
to protect you but it's like hold on man
i got this
let me we're going to try we're going to
step out okay
if you want to kind of thing but it's
about again what you said sitting with
it feeling it
fears most of this is fierce right
what's going to happen if
you know that was a powerful um this
moment i had in church
years ago the pastor said it wasn't if
you sit with it
acknowledge it and not together let's
give it to god
and it was like okay and i felt like
tremendous breakthrough
like in just that few seconds really
of like acknowledging it it's legit it's
scary
but i'm i'm not gonna hold on to this
fear i'm gonna release it to
what is love and so that little practice
right there we do that in guided
meditations and
think of those your ego and those things
that are telling you no and just kind of
giving them away but but acknowledge
them
as as something that's legit right it's
a fear
it's there for a reason it hasn't i tell
people it has a right to be there
it may not be good for you but it's
there for a reason you open the door for
that
and somehow whether it's something that
happened to you like you said or maybe
something you watched on tv
as a kid just passing by and boom
there's a
you know when you think of this that
movie comes up
you know and so it may not be true it
may not be right may not be healthy so
identifying that stuff so that we can
remove them right
yeah and it can happen that fast so
what i found is even stuff that's long
standing
years and years and all these stories
around like well of course i've got this
problem look at how i was raised and
everything
those kind of things if you go right to
the feeling
and feel it it can be in an instant like
that and other times it's like
this low level um irritation that might
take two or three days
and usually this kind of process doesn't
take a lot of time but
the length of time and the bigness of
the problem
doesn't mean it's going to be um a long
long thing to fix
it truly is giving it to god and letting
go and what i found is going and just
sitting with the actual
feeling without all the um just taking
it out of your mind
and out of your thoughts and just what's
happening right now in my body
right now where's the the most intense
of the most intense
physical feeling and just sitting with
it and
it feels it it gets done being
experienced
so um so you think it's different even
what's up
even without you know giving it to god
or seeing it demolished or overcoming it
like just feeling it just know hey it's
a thing it's real let me feel it and
then that
is enough that's all it takes
oh dude it's so powerful it's like
nothing extra because everything you
know we you and i both know
i've heard your stuff everything is god
and so
just think that something's not god it's
like wait a second and we've all had
that experience of like um
oh my god i'm so glad that woman broke
up with me that was like a miracle
at the time it wasn't but um you know
when we
um we lost everything in san diego not
everything but lost a lot and then ended
up moving to the
pacific northwest and sleeping outside
for a year and all this stuff
i lo in the time i would run up to the
to and look out over mount baker and say
god
just take me or show me how to fix this
thing because i got to take care of my
family
and um and my wife said i think she said
dude but she says she doesn't say dude
babe she said you've got to get happy
and i was like i know i got to get happy
but this is crazy and my father-in-law
was like i just want you to be happy
ralph and i'm like
you know um and so if i i didn't know
this technique then
but the funny thing is i learned it um
from somebody that went from food stamps
to making a lot of money millions of
dollars
and he said hey do this thing and um
because he had a lot of inner blocks
around
about abundance and started doing it and
my wife was like what are you doing and
i'm like i'm doing this funny thing
and i started doing it with um clients
and they were saying oh this is an old
yogi tradition this is an old zen
stitches
thing and then i have a guy that i think
is enlightened he
makes balloons around town sometimes for
kids but um he was telling me he was at
an old
zen monastery of some type and he was
always afraid of heights
and he um described a process that he
used that summer
where he got closer and closer to the
edge of the cliff and he felt his body
and i was like oh my god you're telling
me the exact technique and so i told
but i asked some the next day and i said
what is that kai
because oh this is the oldest meditation
this is what buddha used
and so i started looking into it and
it's like oh my god every spiritual
tradition
talks about be still and know that i am
god and um be here now
and um you know and let go and let god
they all talk about it and but but i but
the ego
wants even myself i find my mind going
come on do something important this is
dumb you're just feeling a little
physical pain
you know you should get to work um this
isn't don't look here for sure don't
look there
because your ego doesn't want to um
break apart and the funny thing is i
went back to my qigong master
who's amazing and i've been with him for
17 plus years
and i realized oh my god he's been
telling me for 17 years
to do this thing and i missed it so it's
like it's so
easy to miss because you're not using
the you're using them you're telling the
mind
hey just chill out i'm gonna just notice
this thing
and and so all the other techniques are
still super useful
like um i pray and i ask god for stuff
but um but like another way to use it is
to to
ask god or or think about your desire
like what do you really really want like
i want to make this kind of money to
take care of my family and this will
do this for me and this is what i want
and i really really want
it and you just dream up this beautiful
life and you would think it would feel
great
but what happens is a lot of times you
then go inside and what's happening in
your body
and you feel a big pain a big pressure
on your chest or
your gut just hurts or your solar plexus
it's like what is that
like you just dreamed of your ideal life
and you've got
physical pain well whatever that is is
the block
so we don't have to go looking with some
like mind like where's the block
just go notice where the button is like
what just happened in your body
when you thought of of that and that is
where
where the block is but the block isn't a
block it's the actual
miracle it's the door it's the door and
all you got to do is go feel it
and so and of course you still i talk to
god all the time
but but it's like so i still like
letting go and um god please
i'm giving this to you now um you know
how can i just let this go
but then after you ask the question then
go inside and just be still
and not understand god not figure god
out
just know god directly by just um
sitting there and just noticing noticing
like my wife says it's kind of cool to
notice your life
and so god is in everything and um and
god is in here too so just like hang out
there and just
notice without um without trying to do
something
i'll tell you what sounds interesting as
you're saying this like i've never
looked into this before but it
almost sounds like
the book of job embodied you know
in in that process because job the book
of job says that thing of which i
feared has come upon me so even in a
meditation even with a
meditation or a mental acknowledgement
of the thing you that you fear
letting it come upon you and set us no
no stay away yes get up get it out of my
sight i don't think about that that
brings back bad memories
yes let it come up and so job is like
almost
these stories the embodiment of letting
that thing come upon you
and it being refined to open up what is
better for you like that process that we
go through spiritually
it's really really interesting to make
that connection there
it's i'm going to reread that book
because that is it that is it
like um like you actually it's like the
leonard cohen um hallelujah song like
even then just sit with it and just just
you just start to know that this is
awesome
this is awesome but not
like you're going to try to make it your
mind like okay
it's like no it's really awesome because
this this obstacle
is showing me exactly where to go um
sit and just hang out and just be there
mm-hmm sitting with your fears is big
and so
even like let's talk about the money
thing again right because for me
i tell you like the immense stuff that i
had to go through
um because i used to study the bible
to combat the prosperity doctrines and
the really big prosperity guys where
they go
super far out with the money you know
and they put use the bible but
i used to study the bible to say why
we're supposed to be poor
like i believe that we're supposed to be
poor righteous teachers and that
it was really a gnostic belief that
you're not supposed to have you're not
supposed to be happy
that you're supposed to do without to
show your devotion to god
it was miscons misconstrued those
scriptures are in there
any everything is in there that you're
looking for just you're gonna find it
that's the way the bible works
but uh i had to really undo that stuff
because it wasn't healthy
to think that i was supposed to not own
anything and be
poor and people who have money or they
can't get into heaven you know and all
of this kind of stuff and had these
weird beliefs that i had to kind of undo
a lot of it so i studied the bible to
see why we're supposed to
supposed to be poor jesus was poor and i
would even like
even stuff that showed that he had money
i would just kind of like you know i
wouldn't acknowledge it and say oh that
was not what that meant or whatever and
so
having to undo that to step into a place
of prosperity
and favor and renown uh which money
comes when you step into that right
there's
there's it's part of it it takes money
to to do what we're doing and to step
out and
to travel and to do all of these things
so changing that relationship with money
is huge a good friend of mine one of my
teachers uh uh
tariq bibby he said that he had to
apologize to money because he had put
these restrictions in this relationship
with money that
wasn't good so he like literally had
this little sit down where he's like
look i'm sorry that
i made you hard to get i'm sorry that in
my mind i had to work for money
versus something that abundance that
freely comes to and through me
um and so he said this came from he
traced it back to
you know him going to um the store with
his friends i think they were gonna go
to mcdonald's when he was little and all
his friends had money
and he would ask his dad for five
dollars to go to the store or mcdonald's
or something and he think his dad would
pull out the money and go to hand it to
him
and say wait uh didn't you make an f on
your report card
and didn't you get in trouble last week
at school no you're not getting no damn
money and he puts it back in his pocket
and sends him out the door
so his uh you know money provision even
from a father figure wanting to
bless his children you know uh
this works mentality was birthed there
that he had to perform to get money that
he had to do good
and to you know he had to earn it versus
this relationship now moving even past
earning money or time is money to like
just this abundance that continually
flows to you
and you're a good steward of money right
you're doing the right things with it so
that that was huge him having to sit
down and say look i'm tracing this back
and i
and when he did that money began to flow
into his life like in all
all kinds of areas in his life just
begin to open up to receive
wealth yeah
and so that kind of a decision is like a
line in the sand and then you're
different because you've decided
and um and what this extra piece can do
is then
after that decision it can hurt it can
hurt because you still
might feel some of that stuff that
happened that came in with a lot of
emotion when
your dad did that kind of thing and so
then
you can just go sit with it without
trying to run away from it
and without trying to understand it here
and just
sit with it and let it do its thing let
that pain be
felt completely completely completely
because when it's done being felt it is
done it's done
and those then you don't have to try to
like keep um
revisiting the decision and like okay
i'm okay with money i'm okay with money
but it's like oh god i'm in front of a
10 you know i'm going to try to sell
this thing to 10 000 people and
um uh you know it's like um so whenever
those kind of things come up
you can just go sit with it and knowing
that you made this decision is
awesome and every time a version of
the pain of it shows up you just go sit
with it and
man stuff shifts and then you don't feel
you don't have to keep um read deciding
over and over again or affirming or
like okay let that go man it's like um
it just um it just it's just done
it's just time what are some of the
other areas in your life that that have
been blocked just for you that uh once
you acknowledge them and you was able to
overcome that
something else opened up on the other
side of it
it it it seems like i take a while
sometimes to learn and then i find the
teacher
and i'm like why didn't i learn this
sooner but um
and by by teacher you mean you mean
these these blockages being teachers
right
or do you mean the blockages but also
then then the the literal person
okay like what happened to me first was
um i had to
learn um i had to say this whole medical
intuitive model the late sharon g matteo
and it first started when i couldn't run
and then she um they worked on my heart
and then i could run again
and um and then throughout the years i
didn't have cavities anymore when i used
to have cavities and i didn't have
anxiety or sweaty hands anymore
and i got to see oh there's this
physical there's a root cause there's
something
my body protects me from and a lot of it
can be spiritual stuff like
one of the things um i used to always
have a pattern where
i had the cutest cutest girlfriends all
the time and but they every single one
of them
cheated on me and so i was getting
worked on by that same um woman
sharon g matteo and um on my heart and
um i was telling her the story
and she stopped instantly and she goes
you got to think of right now
25 ways that you disrespect women and
i'm like what
i thought it's your fault
yeah so but i started to go through like
oh my god i disrespect women
and um and i cleared that and um and
then
jen showed up and now we're we're great
and i saw that so um
so there was that that wasn't um that
was more like somebody helping me
find um the you know the the log in my
own eye
instead of like always like blaming
somebody else and then um
i kept running away from problems like i
couldn't run for another time
and i had severe bone pain and um severe
depression it was before our first son
was being born
in san diego in our business we hadn't
been paid by medicare for a year and
all sorts of stuff was crumbling and i'm
like what is going on
and it took me a year and a half to
figure out it was fluoride in the water
so um so i was finally led to like get
you know detox from fluoride
um and then we decided to move and we
went to the pacific northwest and we
were just going to go live a simple life
and do energy work and healing work and
but mostly farm and make an earthen
house and just kind of live super low
key up by matt baker
and we bought this little house to that
we would ultimately want to rent out
and um but it was so toxic we got really
sick and so
there i was being attacked again my
whole life there was different versions
of being attacked
and um and that's when my wife said you
got to be happy first and i had to
i realized there's a victim pattern and
so i
had to um clear that and i didn't know
part way through that is when i learned
this technique this letting go technique
it's called the peace process it's been
called surrender
all sorts of things living the questions
but um
it's what buddha used but um that's when
i learned that
and i found coaching and i realized oh
my goodness and i resisted
even going into the coaching world or
getting coaching but i realized i need
to i need to get some help
and um and they they um
they taught me stuff like they said well
i had one my first coach said um i'll
work with you
but you got to raise your rates and i'm
like what i'm not very many clients
and she says i don't care she's from new
york city she was awesome and um i said
okay
so i raised my rates and then within an
hour i got three new international
clients
and then my wife um started um you know
i was doing this process
and um she's like what's going on so my
one of my biggest um i think one of the
biggest spiritual journeys is
to um is business but to do it in a way
where you're bringing your gifts to the
world
and you're putting yourself out there so
the haters can see you yeah
the people you can help can see you and
so you bump into your own stuff
and charging them money because when
somebody pays
that hi to somebody last night that um
decided to work with me and he said i've
never done anything like this ever
to spend this kind of money and to work
with me he's 70 something years old
and um and and it's like
just the fact that he took that jump
yeah
caused something to shift in him and so
so um
and we'll go through that deep with him
because he's like lots of gifts to give
to the world
but every step is another mountain to
like oh here's another obstacle
so that's um my journey has been um
fixing my physical body
and every step of the way first just
letting go like god maybe i'll never run
again
um and and then find getting led to it
and then um and then keep it's kind of
surrendering surrendering to god letting
go
but um but in a real tangible accessible
way like not just like
try to talk yourself into surrendering
yeah just to go sit with the
actual physical pain that's correct
that's like that's been my thing
yeah you know the interest i mean
there's a lot more stuff i know i i
don't i don't pinpoint that
in my story as far as being a rob
to take people through maybe i will now
because it was totally a part
of like i remember being locked in this
truck and i was a truck driver
for 10 years and i'm trying to make it
in music and i'm trying to do the
healing
thing and all this stuff and the bills
seem to be stacking up even more
and and there there came a time but but
i was on a precipice like i felt it i
felt
so connected like i want this more than
anything
and uh but it seemed like it was still
so far away so there was a part of me
that i sat down and i really came to
terms with like
do i just need to give up on it and and
like i didn't like totally give up on it
but it was just come okay like
what if it doesn't happen even with a
god thing
like do you still love me if you if you
have to if you have to drive this truck
for 30 more years do you still love me
will you still or are you always going
to be seeking for this thing that's
outside of you
and once i like okay i want it more than
anything
but i'm going to devote myself and i'm
just going to be present here
and when i did that it almost seems like
a giving up kind of thing because you're
like okay i'ma quit striving i'ma quit
thinking about it every minute
of the day i'm gonna quit trying to make
things happen and really just kind of
okay i'm gonna be present work no matter
where i am and i'm gonna quit living
outside
even when i'm talking to somebody i'm
thinking about music or i'm thinking
about
what i got going on when i get home or
podcast whatever
and when i did that that's when a lot of
stuff opened up for me it was really
just to sit down i cried over it
i got crying tears i was like is this a
pipe dream like am i chasing something
that's not a reality like
am i not gonna be able to pay my bills i
have a family a wife and daughter and
i'm not making much money
doing this stuff and so it was something
that was like
i cried over and said like how old are
you when you're supposed to give up on
your dreams
like is there an age like is it is it 50
is it 40
is it i'm you know i'm 33 at the time
and uh you know when do you give up on
it and quit letting it hound you and
it's like
never you never give up on it yeah
and uh but yeah that was a huge
breakthrough once i acknowledged it and
just kind of like
gave it back to god kind of thing i just
kind of gave it back
that is so huge man that is so huge and
that's a big part of
anybody that's listening one super
powerful thing is to do what you did
which is um think of the worst case
scenario like what if it all
failed what if that was it what if it
didn't work and then
and then just live in that for a moment
and then go
feel it nope i didn't miss myself feel
the pain
yeah and then you just feel all that
pain yeah and then what happens is
the the goodness shows up and the
inspiration and you're like
i know i'm supposed to do this are you
um
all of a sudden you're on derek's
podcast it's like oh my god this is so
perfect
and um you know that thing it's like um
the band that all of a sudden is like an
instant success it's like well there was
all this
and then this happened but um but yeah
to think of the
the worst case scenario and then to go
feel the pain of that
at some point you're going to think of
the worst case scenario after that it
could be one session
but um but you think of the worst case
scenario you feel the pain and then it's
like wow i
like this that lady's foot i don't know
if i told that's three or the ladies
foot
but um um it doesn't it doesn't bother
you anymore like i had a lady that
wouldn't let me touch her foot first
session and she was in person and
i said what happened in the car wreck
when you were a little kid and she
almost lost her foot and had botched
surgeries
and ever since then she was in her 40s
her foot would pop out
and she would fall two or three times a
day and she so she told me don't touch
my foot
so i had her do this i just had her
think about me touching her foot
and for the next hour she felt the the
um
angst the pain in her body of the idea
that somebody's gonna touch her foot
and at the end of the hour she said i
think you can touch my foot
and i touched her foot no problem and
her foot never popped out again
so so um so with this thing is like
you think of the worst case scenario if
you lost
everything if it went even worse than
you could imagine yeah
and then sit with me and now you're at
peace
yeah now you're at peace and what
happens is synchronicity starts
happening
instantly i mean it's like and you
weren't looking for it you're not trying
to make synchronicity happen
it's just like i get this inspiration i
know how i'm gonna do this
this is how it works and then you do
something and here's the key
you you actually do it you do the next
step you do the first step
and then and then you do the next step
and then you get this plan but then you
have to like change the plan but
every day you think okay um what's
what's my what's my plan and it's nice
to write down plans and goals
and um but then the day starts and you
do the green dot the thing that'll
really make a difference
and when something comes up that's like
oh this feels icky
you go clear that and maybe you do a
different thing or maybe it's like no
now we do do this thing
but um but taking that worst case
scenario is one of the biggest spiritual
practices
ever because if you're at peace with
that you're at peace
and it's unassailable and a lot of
goodness comes in
so um i'm writing this down right now
okay i'm writing this down like um
because i'm i'm getting ready to launch
my my
uh my program and um it's but again
that's my story i literally did it but i
didn't have the words to take somebody
through it and
there's this this aspect in the at the
beginning of the the program where
we're trying to find that vision find
that dream that somebody wants right
of you doing the healing program of you
working with clients and how scary that
is
but how beautiful how exciting it is
find the vision get it
and then i'm i'm implementing this next
i have to add this
now release it if you ever want my help
i'd be happy to do it with you just
off screen sometime and um and then if
it's something to offer your people
just as a just offer it to them i'd be
happy to like
help you because because that whole
process of i work with lots of people
who have chronic conditions but they
also want to be healers and they're
doing a lot of stuff
but um i've asked them how much of your
problem is solved by money and they're
like
99 what so this is like
you you want money but money's people so
it's like
man solving this for people is huge
yeah yeah it's um they always saying
it's for somebody else right
like this is for other people not me and
they kind of think the bible says god is
not a respecter of persons there's no
reason why it could work for ralph but
not work for me
you know and so you can take people
through that again like that's why i've
kind of like mapped out my journey
like this is what worked but i'm adding
this once you get the vision we're going
to let it go together
but then we're going to reaffirm why
it's why it's possible
right all things are possible so
definitely going to get into that
that's good finding it so awesome
and then letting it go just
yeah let it go and just let it go in a
way where you're like you're just gonna
like i did with my son when he was
telling us the story of being born
i just we just sat there and just
enjoyed it like wow look he's telling us
the whole story and he was like
and this whatever that pain is is doing
a version of that it's just telling you
what happened and it's it's it's
experiencing it and it's like
it's shaking it off and it's like going
through it and then
it's totally understood and once it's
understood
it doesn't have to keep telling you it's
not like no you don't understand
it was this it was like you know i
understand i said no you don't
understand
so you just gotta go sit with it like
you pull up a lawn chair
and you just sit there with this thing
that you could call pain but it's like
it's just a physical sensation
and you just sit there and sometimes
it's like instantaneous like it was with
you with that one it's like wow i don't
that went away fast
um and other times it's like five or ten
minutes and other times it's like
a few sessions and then along the way
your ego
can be in there with your mind going
come on dude do something
important you got work to do don't look
this is dumb you're just feeling a
little pressure in your ribs stop it
you know but it's like no that where
that is
is where that is and if you just sit
with it it's like
your consciousness is um your attention
your attention is consciousness it's god
and it's looking right at it and where
that energy flows
stuff happens and so um you're you're
doing a
you're not doing a passive thing you're
actively um
it's kind of like i think it was bruce
lee that said do nothing and leave
nothing undone
and it's kind of like if i put an extra
couple of words in there
do the nothing and leave the nothing
undone because we know that the quantum
physics now
the work of nassim hermann it's like
there's infinite energy
in the vacuum it's like infinite
infinite information there's even
infinite mass
in every proton that doesn't make sense
it's like it really is holographic
and so if there's infinite stuff there
let's just go there and um let's
do that just notice that
and leave that undone because it knows
what to do and um
and so um anyway that's some words
around it
just to kind of give people the idea
that wow maybe i should like pay
attention to what
that feeling is and just hang out there
with it without judging it
and see what happens and even just being
on this show
there's something happening in the space
in the space because in that space there
is infinite
and so one way that we play with this is
um
is play with it and so people can notice
you know here they were before the show
and then just kind of notice what's
different like do you move different
does
do you are your feet on the ground
different do people treat you different
did you get a good cool idea because um
and it's easy to go well it couldn't
have been from that
but what i've noticed is um there's a
line in the sand when you play with this
stuff
and you're different you can't go back
to unknowing something
on that deep level yeah that's so good
um again just i guess acknowledging it
sitting with it um so with like the pain
in the body
stuff and like that's for like the
energy healing
you have a different couple different
ways that people approach that is it
just to
to send the healing to that area and
whatever it that blockage is
is is showing up in pain or that
discomfort in your body
or um i have a friend of mine he really
i guess it goes back to really chinese
medicine but
any type of pain that a person has he
used to try to heal it like he would go
out and do street ministry and stuff and
it's like okay you gotta
you got a neck injury let's pray for the
neck healing right now
but now he's a little bit deeper going
back into the chinese stuff a little bit
to where the neck injury represents
something else
the ankle injury represents something
the stomach whatever it is like
but it's to study that stuff and see
what that pain represents
other other areas of your spiritual
physical mental
life would you make those connections or
just to really just focus on just
relieving that pain that's there
so that breakthrough can come when that
healing comes kind of thing
so i would say both um and um so
yeah i feel like that neck pain or that
foot pain or whatever it is
um is a is a is your body's
um your body doing really well at
protecting you from something
and it's kind of hierarchy of protection
so it'll protect um
uh of like a heart at a high level of
protection it doesn't wanna you could
blow out your
blood vessel a physical you know heart
problem but it'll protect heart
sadness at a higher level less that
spiritual pain of like
deep deep loss it doesn't want you to
feel that so it'll use a lot of energy
to hold that down
and you don't feel it but then because
it's held down all these thoughts pop up
and all these beliefs and all these
programming
and that's a lot of energy that now you
can't use for your healing
and so when you notice where the
the thing is there's different ways like
homeopathy is all about that like find
the information
matrix energetics is like where is that
information
and by the time it's a spiritual truth
by the time
i've noticed it's already done by the
time you've asked
i've already answered and not enough
like just isn't that a nice prayer kind
of thing but
like um it's kind of like with this type
of way of working
i'm not healing anybody it's god of
course
but i'm i'm the play-by-play announcer
like if i say oh
it's right here which it is there's
something right here for everybody right
here
i can feel it and by the time i notice
it
it's done it's kind of like having a
bunch of apps on your ipad
and you touch it and it just starts a
whole program and so
some of the stuff you'll notice right
away and some of the stuff you'll notice
later and some of it might be led to
hey stop putting fluoride in your body
or gluten you know or
quit putting your headphone your cell
phone by your head all night long
it could be a physical thing that your
body is protecting you from
it could be a mental or emotional
spiritual anguish it could be a physical
thing you just need to fix your gut or
your
artery and so all the techniques i found
are still useful
and and all the paradigms around it like
oh this neck pain
represented this is still useful yet
sometimes you'll never know what the
whole picture is but you can still
clear it because you you can feel it you
kind of you you
and you have the skill you know it when
you know it and it's like
oh it's like right we can feel this like
right
whatever this is right
there so something
is there and it's kind of like um wi-fi
or the cloud
you touch it and it's a url and
you can feel it it's different now
and so it still might be absolutely like
i eat really well
and i don't put toxins in my body and
you know it's like
the physical stuff is still super super
valuable i find
yet sometimes where it just touched that
there it is
and it can come in as a symbol so it's
such encoded information that
our um minds might not make sense of it
so it comes in like a symbol
and um and you don't need to know the
whole picture of the symbol you might
get an epiphany around it
but i'm seeing a big willow tree and
willow trees are cool like i know willow
trees have a lot of stuff going on in
the roots that protect itself
it's a battle under there but um but
maybe that's important maybe not but i
just had a viv image of a willow tree
how is that useful i'm not sure but is
it useful yes because i can i can um
i feel it it's even beyond feeling it's
like when you just know something you
know something
and so what i notice is this process of
like um notice your life
notice your life like and notice what's
happening in your body
and notice the trees and notice the um
the clouds
and notice the insect and notice the
wind and notice all the stuff
it's like my wife says it's really cool
to notice your life not to think your
life but to notice your life
and you know all that stuff can be
thought of as god
noticing you all the time
always on noticing you and so it's
really cool
to notice god and that's no
so the word notice is the key
and then you'll get to like oh i've got
this idea the neck pain is about this
like i got the idea that well yeah that
woman's foot pain was about that
car wreck but it's like
just to know that it's kind of like the
booby prize you know it's like now i
know why i screwed up
but it's like oh it's just that was it
but it's like after the fact like oh
that was what that was and you can feel
it right now
you know there's something different so
it's like
playing in both worlds like um there's
physical stuff to do and you'll come up
upon physical things to do and god will
lead you to physical things to do
and it can have certain meanings and
it's like oh my god i just let go of
this old pattern of me as a little kid
doing this
but um but the important thing is just
to have a knowingness that
by the time you've noticed it it's
already done and then you get to like
um trust and verify like one of my
teachers used to say like
yeah but now go test it like notice
what's different in your life in this
moment like does your neck move better
does your shoulder move better do your
feet
better are you walking differently do
you look kind of taller because you're
seeing things a little like an inch
higher than you used to
um and and then that wasn't just your
shoulder that got better
or you're walking didn't it wasn't just
your walking it's like we don't even
know what else just got better
like is somebody going to be a different
relationship now like i've had clients
that say
for the first time in many many years my
my daughter said i love you
and so a guy just had his um his son
call him up out of the blue he was so
worried about him he's gonna die
like i've decided to stop drinking and
i'm able to hang around with my daughter
again
it's like i didn't work on his son i
didn't work on his daughter
but i worked on him clearing stuff
and um and so this is like pure magic
but in a very accessible applied way
and the answer really does lie within
but it kind of lies
it'll tell you it's about something and
it's like oh no just go sit with it
you'll get
the answers you need and you can feel it
you're awesome because you're like oh
you play with this stuff all the time
so this just takes another level of like
you don't have to work so hard
we still get to work really hard i hear
baby
but but but you still get to work hard
and do stuff and and
create and do all sorts of stuff but
just like just kind of noticing what you
notice in your body is so huge yeah we
do that like
you know we pick that up from the
pentecostal churches and stuff where we
like get into the holy spirit
whether we put on worship music and we
we go into trance state and
they may not call it that but there's
this beauty of all of god's presence we
call it the holy spirit they call it
pride they call it different things
where no matter where you are
but you feel refreshed and rejuvenated
because you're tapped into this life
force of love
and you're you're getting work done on
you
by the holy spirit i mean a lot of times
it's things that you know right it's
just a thing that you identify
i got unforgiveness in my heart i've got
pain in my body you know those
physical things but a lot of times you
come out of it like not even
knowing what it was that got work done
like
almost like like the scripture says that
the spirit intercedes for you of things
that you don't even know what you need
it's like you're focusing on this but
you really need to deal with that
you might not know it but the spirit
intercedes and you feel that cleansing
sensation this beautiful
uh high vibrational auric field and and
you just feel like
you had work done on you and you don't
even know what it was for
in many cases so you can't it's hard
just to pinpoint it was this this that
that and that that got work done
you may know it you may find out later
again where synchronicities open where
there was resistance in certain places
and now it's gone
just being in that space of meditation
of adoration gratitude
you feel the energy come in right we
feeling feel the holy spirit showing up
and moving
through prayer and so very similar to
what you're saying when you're
we do it with laying on the hands we'll
lay hands on somebody
i'll in all of my sessions i'm getting
i'm getting work done on me
when i'm tapping into it and i feel it
ooh
all right i get shots of it and boom
boom boom and so it's
it's so much more powerful even for me
the the practitioner
uh is is getting work done too and it's
so awesome
to share that play in the same world
yeah that is so it that is so it
there's different names and stuff on it
but it's it's the energy it's love
it's healing whatever i don't care what
you call it you know it's the same thing
and so uh
man it's um no knowing that something
happened again you may not be able to
pinpoint it but something has a shift
there
something happened yeah and you can
discount it and you can try to talk
yourself
out of it with something about this or
that but um
but it's really cool to notice the
miracles because it's like
there's something in cool about when you
check off that was a miracle
it's like i don't know if the angels say
hey man they're noticing let's go do
some more
it's something happens it's happened for
me with those even those mental
blockages but it is
it is acknowledging them or things that
i thought that i would never get over
or but just acknowledging it and i and
literally i
felt like i was going to carry this
mindset forever
like a certain mindset of of judging
people or
not liking this type of person or being
mad at
christians or pastors you know and then
i acknowledge it i ask for prayer with
some brothers and say hey guys i'm
i've been harboring this resentment in
my heart and i just want to let it go
and uh and they pray and i resent it and
boom it's gone like like that
boom and i was like it can happen in an
instant it's
been carrying this for months or years
and then boom
just like that it's gone never to come
back
because i acknowledged it i didn't try
to hide it most times we try to hide
that stuff from people
that's why we carry it because we don't
want people to know that we are
mad at so and so or whatever and this
you know add so and so's name or a
scenario or situation
it doesn't it's no respecter of persons
either you know
but it's still how you deal with it
confession the bible's big on confession
uh confessing our sins one to another
again i have my friends hey guys i'm
dealing with this and i need help
god hears what he's in everything he
hears it and so god's like okay i was
ready for you to get rid of that you
confess it you bring it into the light
and it's gone it's gone yeah the only
power it has is because you're trying to
hide it
you're trying to act like it doesn't
exist
yeah we talking the same language i love
it that's
exactly how i how i play with this how i
feel and what's true for me
i think that's what what real sin is i
don't think i think it's that you when
you try to hide it like you're doing
these things that you know
you're not supposed to be doing so you
hide it and it's not so much the things
that you're doing is wrong it's the fact
that you're hiding it
that you you're like premeditating it
like seeing the sin in the garden or
whatever symbolic for adam
you know in them eating the apple
whatever that represented
um but the fact that adam tried to
clothe himself and act like he wasn't
naked
and then he tried to hide himself from
god and and god's like
hey adam who told you you were naked
like you know i could see you right
oh you know he don't know what i did god
doesn't know let's hide what we let's
hide our nakedness
and not be open and not be in the light
you know and so again
i guess that those clothings is like a
covering to hide your glory which is you
being open and honest and not concealing
any part of you
even the fear even the doubt even the
worries or the insecurities or
they won't like me if you know and i
think that
going back biblically like jesus had to
deal with that stuff too
you know there were towns where they
like not they didn't believe them
and and he and he really had no magic in
those towns
he couldn't heal nobody no because
because they knew who he was they said
man this is a carpenter
you guys there's a carpenter healing
people no we know him
but he would go to other towns where
nobody knew him and he was just able
just
they heard stories and stuff and he
would show up and everyone believed and
it said
everybody the entire town got healed
so he would go into one city where
everybody knew him they had preconceived
notions and judgments
that they're projecting on to him and
and he wasn't able to do anything
but then the next town over every single
person
received the miracle and got healed
because they believed it oh i love it
where was where where is that story i i
want to read that part
somebody is a chat christy help me find
it we'll find it real quick
okay that's okay i'll go find it i can
find it but that is perfect man
that's exactly i got i got a bunch of
people posting scriptures and stuff all
the time
okay uh i think it's Matthew 13.
uh Matthew 13. and um awesome
and and um um
yeah there's um
oh yeah so for all the people in your
group that um wants to bring their
spiritual healing to a business
and bringing out to the world um
that's such a powerful thing like that's
powerful
and then to be to use this extra piece
and to be
um have a technique a process where you
can go feel
the pain feel that whatever that is when
you're around the haters or the people
that don't believe
and come to peace there and when um
you're around the people and
everything's working and it's like
wonderful
and then you go feel that and um you're
at peace there
you're like um you're at peace whether
it's um
you're with the haters whether you're
with the um the ones that are having
massive results
and then you're working on your money
stuff and
that's that's such a good that's so good
that i just love that thank you about
that story
yeah i know for sure that uh uh the
Matthew 13
says that they weren't healed but
there's another one that says that
every single person so i think Matthew
13 like 53 and it came to pass that when
jesus had finished these parables he
departed thence
and when he was come into his own
country right this is where he lived and
everybody knew him
uh he taught them in their synagogue and
so much
that when they were astonished and said
whence has this man
this wisdom and these mighty works is
this not the carpenter's son
is his mother not called mary and his
brethren james
and joseph and his and simon and judas
and his sisters are they not all with us
whence then
hath this man all these things and they
were offended
in in him so that he offended him with
those words
it says but jesus said unto them a
prophet is not without honor saving his
own country
and his own house and he did not many
mighty works because of their unbelief
that's one this isn't that huge because
i keep looking for more it's placebo
right
it's placebo because they believed it i
mean and it goes back to the booking of
the sessions
like me trying to convince you that that
god wants you healed versus like
listen i want to book a session like
this is my symbol that i want to be
healed
yes i just did a session the other day
and and the lady said that
whatever your price was i knew it was
worth paying it because
i knew that i was going to receive
breakthrough and and i was gonna save
myself
time energy money like it's whatever
your price was for you to sit down and
talk me through these things
work with me it's worth it you know so
for them that's an
object of faith that's placebo all i
have to do is talk to him
and i'm gonna be healed all i have to do
is pick his brain for a little while and
i'm gonna i'm gonna get over this
this block um another another spot is
Mark
65 in the gospels and i'll read that
right quick too
it's kind of the same thing it goes into
a little bit more detail but um
but jesus says unto him a prophet is
without honor but in his own country and
among his own kin and among his own
house
and he could there do no mighty works
save that he laid his hands upon a few
sick folk and he healed them
and he marveled because of their
unbelief like you know how you would
marvel because there was
like a whole everyone believes like he
was in a place where
there was an overwhelming amount of
people who didn't believe you know
which is us it's in our home country
like facebook yeah
everybody knows you yeah so so so you
know you were a truck driver now you're
a healer
what come on but if you go into these
other groups
i remember when when that happened for
me and there was that fear there
i went on to this lady's podcast she was
uh she interviewed me once a month
and it was once i first stepped out into
doing the healing and the one-on-one
sessions and
and she pushed me out there with her
community and
they loved me she had she would have
like two thousand three thousand
viewers after a live stream like within
two days or so
and um and i would be booked up
all these people resonated with my work
they booked private sessions with me but
if i was just kind of going in my
community they're like uh no we don't
want we don't want what you got
we know who you are kind of thing and
they it's these preconceived notions and
these judgments that we put up we put on
people
it's crazy yeah it's awesome
it's awesome yeah it's because they
they know you they know you they're like
they know you
yeah it's about the right but at the
same time
there's even power in that though
because if that's the case we want to
reinvent ourselves and we don't want
people to really know us
and uh and they see you as this big
healer or whatever which we are
but i think there's even more powers
like yeah i am just like you
and you can do these same things too i'm
nobody special
you can do this stuff too you can live
in your dream
you can follow your heart that in the
things that god has
has put inside of you since you were a
kid i'm nobody special
like these other people think you are
but going back to the regular people say
you're right
you can do it too and it's almost like
that's the um and it says that they were
offended like how's this
guy like i have friends that come up and
tell me like you know i could be mad and
jealous because i'm doing
listen you could do it too you can start
your own podcast you can
do healing sessions you're gifted i see
the gift in you
i see the gift in almost everybody you
know everybody who does one-on-one
sessions with me for the most part
i can tell they're called to to be
healers
now whether it's to do one-on-one
sessions with people to do healing
music or massage therapy i mean it's
different for everybody but they
are healers and empaths and trying to
make sense to move forward in this so
uh all you have to do is say yes saying
yes god is no
we're not any better like we we were
them we didn't believe at one point we
had to say yes and
go on that hero's journey right
yeah and then people following your
story and your path
that that um that transforms people
they are different because of your story
and whatever people
are dealing with and even if they don't
feel like they've healed enough stuff to
help somebody else they're a few steps
ahead of somebody else that would love
to be where they are
and when they get there they're not
going to be there they're going to be at
the next thing and people can grow with
with us
and um these days especially i think
people
really just want to be with people that
um have figured something out
and and um and it's not about if you
have a certain credential
or this or that it's like do you can you
solve a problem for me
and if you're a healer and and you want
to bring it into the world and
have a living doing it then your program
is like well look i've done this i can
show you guys the way to get here
and you can find your own version of it
but um you know come with me and
and um and then showing them all the ins
and outs it's like huge for people to
see you
going through all your stuff so and me
too
you know yeah so that's the thing there
i mean
that's awesome you want it to be easy
for everybody but
it's not supposed to and so if it works
for you there's no i know there's
different strokes for different folks
some
people you know are more apt to this or
that but i think that
what we're talking about embodies any of
those modalities
you know what i'm saying whether it's
reiki or um
energy healing or faith healing it's
it's all the same thing and you can
do with whichever you want uh when you
tap
into it so but but there's a there's a
underlying principle
of of the energy and of integrity and of
love and
wholeness that comes through it all that
you have to walk into i believe
people can feel it when it's they know
it it's like you're you're not trying to
like
put something over on them it's like
you're showing them all the good and the
bad and
and here's the direction i've seen and
um and i can help you
solve these money things and i can help
you solve this thing and bring your
gifts to the world and
yeah any kind of problem can then be
your biggest gift
so yeah i love um this is so awesome
i'm so glad i met you man this is crazy
feelings mutual um you know fi when you
have those
those uh those blockages and stuff again
you know the scripture says what the
enemy meant for your harm
god will in turn use for your good like
it becomes part of your story the very
thing that was used to kill you
is going to be the thing that helps that
that catapults you or springboard you
into your destiny
the thing that you that thought you know
that's part of your story
you know and it's imbibe it's embodied
all throughout the bible with like
you know um david and goliath
you know everyone was scared of this
thing but david is the one who
stood up and said yes and he used what
he already had
he has slingshot you know to to to slay
slay the giant we all have giants in our
lives
whether that's you know a relationship
or hurt or that fear
of what if you know what might have been
you know everybody's got their yeah
yeah and everybody's got their next
level of uh mountains to have
i mean there is their thing like even
tony robbins almost died last year
and um you know he he had a severe
problem and so
um it's not like just because somebody's
made it
in a certain thing now they get to kick
back it's like you get to learn the next
thing
it's all good but it's like um they
might not feel good during certain parts
yep yeah it's just for that person
everybody's got their own story their
own
own journey they're fighting their own
own demons their own battles
but there's there's ways to overcome i
think that you overcome them all with
love
honestly i think that's the uh you have
to learn to respond with love and you'll
keep fighting them until you do you'll
keep taking those tame
tests over and over and over until you
respond to love and that's how you get
to the next level
with love faith and trust like in
god right in this that i'm gonna be
taken care of i'm good everything works
out
you know versus getting you know afraid
and doubting and fear
and imagining scenarios that don't exist
um that are bad let's imagine scenarios
that don't exist right now that are good
that's all we're doing right
because i mean that's i think that's
that's like
game game planning and manifestation
because most of us have just been
dreaming about stuff that isn't real
that's gonna that's gonna harm us
you know these fears let's daydream
about the blessings
what does it feel like to have money
what does it feel like
to take a trip that you thought you
would never be able to take what does it
feel like to be in a relationship where
where you're just madly in love with the
individual right
um you know feeling i mean if it works
for one it works for the other we're
talk
we've been talking about the fear issues
and the obstacles in the blocks and
sitting and that acknowledging it or do
it with
the beautiful stuff sit in that what
does it feel like to help people what
does it feel like to
wake up every day and being a job that
you love
again that's that vision i guess right
getting that vision that you want
seeing it and then giving it away
and then yeah and the other piece but i
would add it with the love thing is
we can all tell when our hearts are open
and
love is you know it's like ah love the
heart is open
in chinese the word open heart means
happiness
and um and we can all tell when the
heart closes
and so you might think of um your your
vision and like oh
to make money and to go to paris with my
family and to
have that house and to do this and it
would make such a difference
and yet then you go and you feel and
it's like oh my goodness i got
like this pressure on my chest why am i
feeling something that doesn't feel good
when i just had this great vision in my
awareness
it's like oh that is where the heart is
showing you where you're closed and then
um instead of trying to like go
um judge it or you know fix it or
there's all sorts of ways to work on it
but you can also just go sit with it and
notice that
that um physical thing and then when
it's done
that's the open heart and so then your
your vision
then showed you right where the the um
the block was
the block was actually the um the place
that's your one of your biggest gifts
just go hang out with it or if there's
an obstacle that comes up
it's like then well where is that and
you can feel when your heart closes
and because it's like it's a physical uh
and go sit with it
and then um it's like oh i don't notice
that now and so it's like a way to kind
of navigate through life
your vision or your obstacles and then
um you can notice where your heart is
closed and
and it's like a um it's a physical
feeling i found
yeah yeah you could tell you could tell
when you're in sync too
i remember there was a when i first got
into this and it was several years where
it was just like
you know i'm finding out what
synchronicities are and they're just
everywhere i mean
insane synchronicities of like the tv
and billboards and
ever i'll say something in the i'll say
a phrase the tv says it right after me
i'll say a phrase the radio i mean that
was just like an everyday
very strange uh feeling in the 333s and
all that but it was magical it was
beautiful
i was learning so much and then there
was like something that i knew that i
was gonna
i said yes to something that i knew i
shouldn't have did i ended up going to
this concert
and and i felt the spirit say no you
don't go to that don't do it
and right when i purchased the tickets
and it was like two weeks before the
show
i felt spirits saying i'm not going with
you
like i'm not going i'm not gonna be
there i was like you know
let me go and but then like i almost got
in trouble like at the concert i ended
up like almost getting in the fight like
it was v
it was really bad and so after that when
i came back
well it took two weeks but right when i
purchased those tickets and made the
agreement i'm going
like that's when things got a little
weird with like all of my just being
being in the flow being in focusing on
healing
all of that i felt it shift and so even
when i got back it took
several months to me to for me to even
get back
into this place where everything was
magical
um you know where doors were opening up
it was part of the journey there's so
much to learn in that
but uh but i felt the shift and so
getting back into where the heart was
open
where everything was magical i was
focusing on healing and doing those
sessions and stuff again
it took took several months but the
interesting thing was that i was able to
acknowledge it
i was conscious of it it wasn't like oh
i'm just kind of going on this
journey and i feel like everything's
fine like i knew something was up and
could tell when i got back in the flow
yeah can i ask you a question about that
sure um
um can you spot that
when you get that kind of information
now like do you know oh yeah not that
yeah yeah do you have a an indicator
yeah i mean i knew it then
i'm curious what you i knew it didn't
yeah so but nowadays
like so now when you get that indicator
um
is it a how do you know now like um oh
yeah not that
um yeah it's a it's a it's an instant
inner knowing you know it's the it's
that relationship with the holy spirit
that lets you know like it gives you a
yes or no or a check in it through
conversation
that's going into the weird things too
because like it's always so good man
i have a lot of my christian friends i
never understood this because
because it's different with me when
someone when would ask us or petition us
for something or say hey do y'all want
to go here
it would be there an instant inner
knowing yes or no and it's literally
connected to my conscience in the holy
spirit
and then a lot i've had a lot of my
friends will say let me go pray about
this
i never felt that like obviously because
i think every day
every breath is a prayer and obviously i
would take some things and
make sure especially if it's a big
decision let me talk to my wife but
um they i would always say a yes or no
hey would you want to do it nope
we're not no and the bad thing is so
good to either like maybe lead the
person on
but what i did find that a lot of people
who do say i'm gonna pray about it
they already know and that's just the
easy way of letting you down or not
telling you no
that's one thing i noticed too yeah like
i'm not gonna break up you
let's be friends for a while the answer
is no that's
interesting too because i did find that
out god that's so good
thank you for that for me personally
because um
i had a couple of those things where you
just kind of like that's interesting
like i thought that was a good way to go
and um but you can't you know you
already know
yeah i mean even even if it yeah i i
knew that i was picking the wrong choice
you know and still did it because you
you're you know you have to answer to
yourself you have to answer to your
heart the holy spirit speaks through
your conscience
so that's an instant knowing hey this is
wrong this is good don't do this or
don't do this or
i mean even sometimes like hey you can
do it if you want i don't care
you know that kind of stuff um but yeah
that's how
the scripture says when you know jesus
is talking he says i only do what i see
the father doing
you know and whatever he went and he
would make split decisions like he would
he would be you know going to go to a
certain town
and the holy spirit would speak to his
heart and he'd say no we're not going
this way
we're going the other way and they said
why it's going to take us
you're adding a day on to the trip he
said now the spirit told me we need to
go this way
sometimes it happened in dreams and
visions but it's definitely that inner
quickening of the holy spirit right and
they would go around and
literally did they know that there were
people that were waiting on them to
attack them
and and to to rob and kill them in the
town just ahead
so the holy spirit spoke to them and
said go don't go that way
and we get that too you know we may it's
it's
god's speaking to our conscience yes i
can think of two things right now that i
just wrote down that
because i had that um i like the way you
said that just
um the quickening the inner quickening
of the holy spirit
yeah that's awesome yeah we get better
at that we get better
the more you learn and you're trusted
with you trust it was take a right or
take a left
you may you may be trusted with a
business deal hey do you want to sign
this
i know people it's the same faith it's
the same ability to
and trust and know that god has got you
here he's going to take care of you and
your destiny is unfolding in front of
you so the little stuff of
you know healing headaches could be
healing like jesus healing entire cities
you know healing a stadium or you know
a whole retreat full of men i could work
one-on-one with one man and bring
healing but we
we're going on these retreats and
everybody's getting this impartation of
healing
of inspiration of that it's okay to uh
pursue my dreams like whatever they're
taking away this inner healing
uh for you know for them and just
working with larger groups and jesus did
that with
with cities you know they went into
everybody was healed yeah
start small and then you're gonna do
works you start small just so you
you kind of you get to play in the
energy like you said like
you get to notice like every time i do
this this happens so you get used to it
so the next time a bigger one comes or a
bigger a decision or
whatever a bigger problem yeah
yeah in the video game when you once you
progress to the next levels you got to
face bigger monsters bigger obstacles
but you're given the tools and the
equipment
and you know the weapons to face them
but somebody who is
set you know 17 levels below you try to
fight that it's just not happening
they're going to say no they're not even
gonna face it i mean that was
you know the whole david and goliath he
goliath was
mocking the entire nation of israel
cursing their god and
defaming you know their god and nobody
would step to him
and so david said yes and so when david
said yesterday he had the courage that
you're talking about my father you know
hold on you don't talk about my dad like
that his god right
and so saul gave him his armor so this
little david
david the shepherd boy he's like take
this sword take my armor
take my he put it on he's like there's
no way
i don't know how to use this i'm trained
in this
i've been i've been using this slingshot
every day for the last
10 years and i've been killing bears and
lions and wolves that were trying to
come after the sheep i'm really good
with this
slingshot and so you already have the
things that god has given you
to defeat those enemies and it's it's
part of you it's nothing outside of you
that you have to become he's already you
already have it now
yeah and that's perfect and that's what
i think that um
going inside and feeling the feeling is
it it is right
in you and so that's an extra um that
could be a useful thing for people
your your people you know to um just
you know not just thinking about it yeah
i've got the answer inside of me or i've
got the skills
it's like if it brings up some sort of
inner angst
just go hang out with it and that's the
infinite right there that's your your
doorway into like
um like solving like like goodness i
don't know what you want to call it like
love
like um accessing whatever that is that
thing that's in you
yep who you are you know i mean it's
different too because
like a lot of people have been told that
who they are is not good enough
that they're an accident that they're a
mistake that they always
mess up you know and even in in the
church realm that you know that you're
you're a filthy person and that that
could be true but
in god's love and him you know
changing your heart like you're you've
god doesn't see you like that he sees
you through the the eyes and through the
lens of love and
we like to project how we see ourselves
through god's on to god like god sees me
as this poor beggar this person who
never has enough i always mess up i
always do this
he's like no that's not that's not truly
who i am you know i'm not defined by
those
yeah and you can think it and try to
talk yourself into i'm i'm
i'm all love and god loves me and all
that but if you've got a lot of past
um you can just go feel it and not try
to shy away from it
it's like um and then it's like you say
a knowingness
it's not like you just kind of have to
talk yourself into it it's like you
you it's different it's like you can't
even access that um
that state of mind anymore because it's
it's um
the energy that was holding it in place
has been felt and it's um
it's not there it's not known the
thoughts are just like you know
done the beliefs the past the past still
happened but it's more like
god that was almost like a movie um yeah
your relationship changes with it
yeah when it was something that would
would all you or something that would
harm you moving forward or
mess up your relationships now it's
something again that
you can learn not what not to do to
people you know what i'm saying
what you know what i'm saying yeah it's
a gift it's a gift exactly how not to
treat people i mean for me
like i had to feel that i had to go
through it god is in life is the best
teacher
um like when it comes to gossip and
bitterness and backbiting and stuff like
that like
i i knew i i went through when i was
doing the church stuff
and um you know into some got into the
healing arts and got into
spirituality and um i was a
noted evangelist in the city and um
uh people would like i had churches and
congregations like doing sermons about
me and
mentioning me at their churches and
stuff and i could feel it
i could feel it and it was it was
horrible to have you know have people
who wouldn't talk to you anymore because
the pastor told them not to and
you know watch out for him and you know
it still happens but
at the time it was like i could feel how
heavy it was and was like
listen like okay i get the point i'm not
gonna be back by
and gossip about others there's a couple
things that jesus really rebuked and he
spoke harshly about and one of them was
about
using your tongue in that way because
life and death is in the power of the
tongue
you know because of it we were able to
bless people or curse people and
um you can feel it so i learned
what it felt like listen i don't want
nobody to feel like this i don't want
you know because of me because of me
backbiting or spreading rumors or
you know doing all this kind of stuff so
that's when i was able to identify
early on to like you know knowing that
it was a thing that
god let me feel it i believe it 100 let
me feel it
that's awesome man oh man
that's awesome dude so man i really
enjoyed building with you on here bro so
uh you got a lot of stuff man i get you
i'm on your email list and i get so much
really cool stuff from you
if i if people want to follow your work
if they want to do a session with you
man to see what you have to offer
because it is so much we just
we just scratched the surface of one
thing that's kind of near and dear to my
heart on today's podcast but
you got so much that you bring to the
table where can people check out
folly work and and sign up to uh to hang
out with you
um there's a few places one is
autoimmuneanswers.com
and they can enter their email and then
just send me a message and i'd be happy
for your people to do a love your life
again
blueprint session which is basically
just help i can help find
where the blocks are and and direct you
and if there's something to do together
i can tell you
and that's that's one way or a bunch of
free resources um ralph havens
my name ralphhavens.com forward slash
true healing
and lots of free um free healing
sessions and video sessions and
trainings and
other ways to interact so um those are
both good
good stuff well ralph thanks for hanging
out man and we'll have to do it again
i really enjoyed it derek i really
appreciate it i'm gonna i'll send you an
email and
um i'd love to be part of your world and
if i can help um
yeah put me to work all right brother
thank you so much i love your work man
i'm sure we'll we'll hook up and
definitely i'm gonna i may want to talk
to you about that session with the uh
the whole uh seeing it and letting it go
so
it's just to see something apply to that
that'd be cool
okay awesome okay awesome hi brother
many blessings
thank you bye ralph havens ladies and
gentlemen
inner healing saying yes
following your path following your bliss
there's things that are blocking you
but i think that they're
put there for a reason like there's ways
to get over them you have to choose to
say yes
the harvest is plentiful the labels of
you um
not at night everybody's going to say
yes so
that's the difference be that person
that says yes don't let
your destiny your call and pass you by
say yes do the inner work
this is the inner work this is what we
champion getting over the blockages
getting over the things that are saying
no
whatever it is it's different for all of
us but it's similar
there's some some similar things
especially when like
like attracts like and so you find that
there's things that
there's reasons that you're saying no
there's reasons that you're not saying
yes
and there's there's there's those
similarities so
i've mapped out mine uh what it took
and um again i'm excited to go with a
group of people um in this eight week
program that we got coming up it's
called the path of the healer program
if you're interested in that again
you're gonna be working through your own
stuff
but then it's gonna be designed to
launch you and send you out so that you
can be doing it too
that you can take other people through
it that you can help other people get
over their stuff to do one-on-one
sessions with them to do programs
courses meditations
mantras whatever it is that that your
heart desires it's different for all of
us some of us like
different things and there's different
modalities that we can embody
but each and every one of them is about
healing
especially for me when the big thing of
me talking to god and saying i wanted to
be a healer
what is a healer intuitive healer a
reiki healer whatever that was
i want to be a healer and uh sat down
with the lord
and he said you already are and he gave
me a life review and
showed me my music showed me my session
showed me my prayer meeting showed me my
conversations my encouragement wow
i really am already a a healer man this
is i
i bleed it healing and um
so that was the inner knowing of the
impartation from god right who's
you know whose opinion i should value
um over anybody's even my own right
because we get have ungodly beliefs and
and limitations and stuff like that
so um that's what the beautiful thing
about it so if you're looking to to join
in that um it is a commitment but um go
to truthseeker.com click on
path of the healer and you can get
access to that we're starting october
the 18th i believe it is
it's going to be on sunday nights and
it's probably about two out two hour
sessions that we do
uh for eight weeks so make sure you
check that out
uh let me know if you guys have any
questions as well uh a few minutes to
to talk about what y'all want to talk
about or get my take on something um
one thing i did want to talk about i
mentioned yesterday to a friend of mine
we've been talking about like the
ancestor stuff a lot lately and there
was just a few min
a few minutes in in prayer last week
that i know that i
um asked for forgiveness from my
ancestors
i know that sounds weird right but
there's been a lot of ancestor talk on
here
and there's been a lot of talk about
conjuring the dead
or consulting the dead and i'm not
really big on that and i've used
my ancestors as an example of uh
why i'm not big on that um because
trying to contact the dad and i've said
some things about my
grandfather and uncles and things like
that
who were um troubled individuals you
know what i'm saying they were
uh they were hurt you know but they did
the best that they could with what they
were given
i think every generation has and so
you know there's freedom and there's
healing for them now so you know people
say you're in a better place
but i asked for forgiveness for uh
putting some of those thoughts out there
and
saying that i didn't want to take advice
from them because they were not
you know people who had good advice and
there was even like their songs by naco
naco bear has a song talking about the
grandfather and grandmother teach me i
really need your help right now
and it's a beautiful song i love it and
i love the essence of it but as i hold
on
my grandparents were not really
you know i don't want to say any
derogatory words but they
they weren't you know ascended people or
evolved or spiritual people for that
matter um
i just found myself in in just in prayer
and just asking for forgiveness you know
from the ancestors and uh and speaking
bad on their behalf they did the best
that they could with what they were
given how they were raised in their
environment
and how they treated people that they
learned and it probably
it wasn't good in every generation we
learn we learn from our ancestors
how to make things better how to not
make those same mistakes i had to catch
myself
and i wouldn't have been able to catch
myself in these
cycles unless i had their example to
learn from
and i think that's what we're seeing now
and and all of these
movements with uh blm and stuff going on
is that hold on like
we have a crazy past and we're learning
from that and like
it's it's unfathomable like just
a few years ago like the stuff that was
normal for for people to own slaves and
to do all of these
weird stuff and to not you know seeing
women as property i mean so much
weird stuff that was normal
and the weirdest thing now is when you
when you step
forward in that to say like what about
what
and it's happening we're going faster
and faster right now we're in
weird times but in 20 years what are we
doing today
that in 20 years or 50 years that it's
going to look despicable
one thing we're addressing right now and
we're i think we're on the other side of
it i think we've
passed the the peak of it it was the
um the mistreatment of of of
of gay people and not letting them uh
and seeing them as less of people or
seeing them as sinners or
not letting them in our church or not
letting them around our kids you know
and those kind of things
and so that was a big one even in the
south i'm in alabama
and so that was huge here it's all over
the world and there was a massive
outcry right but but we're seeing a
shift and we're seeing a change now
with that and uh 20 years from now it's
not going to be a big deal for you to
have a gay pastor
just so you know we're already in a spot
even in the south where there is that
stigma
i would say close to the majority even
in especially in the black but white too
uh the worship leaders and the choir
directors
are flamboyant gay men in the churches
but that's okay they couldn't they can't
tell you that though that's
see that was the difference you they
were gay you can tell they're gay
they're effeminate
but for them to be okay in their skin
or to be openly gay they'll probably get
pulled down
but what happens is they get caught in
scandals they get caught
you know flirting with guys or in bed
with guys or whatever and then they get
kicked out of the church
but the majority of of the really
exuberant flamboyant guys they become
choir directors
in the black churches i've seen many
and um you know but but if they was to
own
their truth they would be uh
excommunicated or kicked out but i think
we're moving into a time where
they're going to be accepted for who
they are and not for their
flaws or what other people would call
their sin or whatever the case is
they'll be
judged by their character and not by
their sexual preference
that's one thing that 20 years from now
shoot two years from now because it's
happening so fast and we've seen so much
change already
i wonder what are some other things that
were that
we've championed uh as uh
a human race that are gonna be uh
despised in the coming
weeks days years um
you know the the confederacy you know
that we had confederate
in the south we have schools that are
named after leaders of the confederate
armed armies people who fought to
keep keep slaves like we have statues of
these people they're taking them down
overnight
city city officials and things are
taking them down because the people
the people are rising up and say hey you
gotta if you don't take them down we
will
and we've seen both we've seen the
people taking those statues down and
we've seen
uh uh government officials and city
leaders taking them down
and we've seen the names of streets and
schools changing as well
because of something that this southern
heritage that was uh
there's some you know some pain there
like how much of it do you hang on to
do you put it in the museum so that we
are
reminded of what happened in our history
because if you don't learn from your
past
if you don't learn from history you're
doomed to repeat it so that it needs to
be in the history books but
history is in the hands of the person
telling the story
it's in the hand you listen to the
native american stories and read their
books
versus what the white man said happen
you got two different
uh you got two different things going on
there
so um this is interesting uh
simatic is asking in in the uh chat is
sodomy okay in the bible
i've heard different things about um
what that really meant sodomy and so
you would think that that was just like
same-sex attraction it's what we think
right same-sex
attraction and then having the act of
sexual intercourse with the same sex
so when we would think of that that's
what we think of somebody
recently i've heard this and and read
articles and stuff
but me in my understanding thought that
these were were uh lies about
i thought this was gay people trying to
say that like use the bible to say it
was okay to be gay
anyway there's all these articles and
the stuff coming up about how
the the uh the terms of homosexuality
and the effeminate and sodomy all of
these terms in the bible didn't mean
same-sex attraction that it was linked
into other things
one of them which is really big right
now
being the attraction
and and getting with younger children
and that's what it meant um and other
things that
what happened in sodom was it just that
they were gay the word sodomy
comes from sodom sodom and gomorrah
right were they gay
these people were gang-raping people in
the streets
they were raping people in the streets
so it's sodomy
so i think that looking back at really
the greek in the hebrew what these words
really meant
i was blown away i thought that these
articles were gay people trying to
explain
in the bible that it was okay to be gay
and i said oh no that's not not what
that believes then i began to look it up
even
three weeks ago on the school of
domestics we were hanging out because i
had a gay friend of mine on here that we
interviewed
i interviewed and um somebody
asked me about uh hey what do you feel
about you interviewed that guy and
what do you what do you think about you
know gay sex or what okay marriage or
whatever
i'm trying to use my words you know
sparingly because of
demonetization for using some of these
words but um
we looked it up in the scriptures
and one of my other friends dave he said
yeah my son read an article that
said something about those words didn't
really mean that and that it meant
more of same-sex attraction to younger
children
into having children with them and i'm
thinking like
i looked it up i started breaking down
some of the greek and hebrew terms
in the new testament that are used for
um homosexual effeminate
sodomy and it didn't mean same-sex
attraction
it literally meant men who have
little children with them for
sexual purposes and then when you go
back to the greek philosophy and you
look at the greeks
a lot of these major noted people
it was it was a thing of prestige to
have a little boy with you
and it was a pupil somebody that you
were teaching but they were noted
because they were
intimate with these young children these
philosophers that we look up to
well now again we're talking about how
things are changing listen that's
changing
you can't do that you can't do it i mean
so much so that
like there's huge movements right now
about stopping sex
trafficking of children and um same-sex
attraction stuff like that you there's
so much that we're saying there was a
period where somebody said no
it changed now it's done in the in the
secret in the closet so reevaluating
those words what it meant what it what
they mean now when we hear
what's up man with the english language
we we forfeit a lot
when we hear hear these words our mind
goes immediately to one thing
with all of these words and they don't
even mean that
the bible's talking about it talks about
um pornography
it says uh it says the word if you this
is a deep one which is one of the first
ones i looked up
when you look up the the word for
fornication
for no foreign location the
it comes from the greek word porno porno
for no casing and it meant
having doing weird sexual
stuff sexually abusing your body to do
stuff sexually so when the bible's
speaking about foreign
fornication it's speaking about weird
sex acts
and it's also speaking about um
it's where we get the word pornography
four knows
i know we're going down some weird
rabbit trails here with this last talk
but hey it's part of it
with that being said people are
re-evaluating um the way that you're
treating people and judging people
and condemning people to hell for
something that they cannot change
and that's where i think we have to be
careful and there's a lot of people
doing that and
i've kept company with those and i think
that i've uh um
you know played a part of that in my
past as well being a street preacher and
all that kind of stuff that i did for
several months i guess and taught it and
i would never want to condem
anyone to hell unless i was 100
sure that they were going um because
that's
i think i think that's danger of
hellfire you know
i think that uh that you condemning a
person
to eternal torment and eternal
punishment because of something that
they uh
uh can't change about themselves
um that's pretty pretty dark so i would
want to make sure
and so if i have any questions or any
doubts which i do
then i wouldn't i wouldn't speak on it
or or condemn somebody in that in that
manner
um and i had to learn that you know and
i have other friends who
who do and i think that they're in the
wrong there's the bible is
is is definitely up for many
interpretations especially when it comes
to
the concept of hell especially when it
comes
now to these concepts of same-sex
attraction
there's def it's definitely there some
we've been lied to there's been some
things that have changed that uh
we thought were truth that that that
isn't and it's being
brought out so um
approaching it with grace all of these
deep subjects and not
you know condemning anyone man people
are quick to condemn
we've done it again with with some of
the spiritual stuff that we do shout out
to christy she's in chat
um she mentioned this morning talking
about um
um she was in a group of of christian
christian ministers and christian
leaders
and they were saying anybody who uses
tarot cards or
are not christian and you're going to
hell like that those
that's pretty condemning the bible
doesn't say that
why do you feel the need to project that
on
on people because you don't use tarot
cards and you think that they're demonic
right they might be but the fact that
you're you're projecting that on on
people and saying
for a matter of fact because i know
god fearing christian people who use
tarot cards
who are definitely in heaven going to
heaven
and i've seen other people in the past
saying christians can't be into
astrology
if you're a christian and you're into
astrology you're going to hell that
no the bible is full of astrology
speaks very high of it highly of
astrology
same thing with divination you cannot be
a christian to be into divination
divination is as the sin of witchcraft
and
no joseph lot
um many people spoke highly
of using the right divination that's the
difference is using
these things the right way in the wrong
way sexuality
uh sex the covenant is is definitely uh
it's something beautiful
and uh it's it's it's sacred so
when you see people trying to use it or
have one night stands and
sex with multiple people like there's a
lot like sex is
is union and it's sacred and so
um we definitely need to uh
be be uh mindful of that so
that's that's the biggest problem
whether you gay or straight
like how like are are you
promiscuous you know are you having sex
with multiple partners like
it gets a little bit deeper for me than
just uh
if you're if you're gay or straight you
know like
i would rather i would honestly rather
be around like
gay people who were loving who were
accepting who
uh cared about me versus straight
straight people who don't give a damn
about you
who are talking crap about you which i
we've run into in many christian circles
right so um
the the thing about that is that people
judge by the outward appearance and the
scripture says that
man judges according to the outward
appearance god
is the only one who can see our heart so
we look at people and we put them in
boxes
oh he's one of those okay oh they're
that
okay you're a pastor okay we know all
pastors are
money hungry blah blah blah you know we
have to un do we have to undo that
all of us these different prejudices and
that's this is when we're
you know democrat republican trump
supporters like
you know we we put we file people into
these filing cabinets in our our minds
and our hearts that aren't real
we created it and it's a it's a defense
mechanism
it's so that we can quickly label people
and it's not good
because uh we were finding out now that
that people are
intricate that people are into different
things and uh everybody's
not like you and everybody doesn't
you know view the world like you do um
top of top says astral projection a sin
no no not so it depends like
no if you use this stuff right like if
you you got to use it the right way it's
astral projection paul
astral projected paul left his body and
went to heaven he said the experience
was so crazy that he don't even know if
he
if his whole body went there or just if
his spirit went there he traveled
astrally
in the spirit to get to heaven he spirit
traveled that's what a lot of christians
call it they call it spirit travel but
it's the same thing
astral project projection in spirit
travel is the same thing
and it's how you use it the bible says
to be absent from the body is to be
present with the lord
so anytime that we go into deep levels
of worship i feel like i am not
in my body anymore i'm commun i am in
heavenly places seated with christ
i lit i leave my body um and i
i feel it and that's where this stuff is
happening the the healing and the change
and the impartation
uh communing with the holy spirit in
these deep states of worship and stuff
so
astral projection is not a sin but you
could use it for bad stuff right
um you use it to uh
to actually actually like there's people
who try to
remote view and actually project and go
like spy on like uh
you know people while they're sleeping
or be in somebody's house and choke them
or go to their enemies house
and choke them and scare them and stuff
like if you're using
any of the spirituality or anything for
wickedness it becomes a sin because
you're using it for
harm you're using something beautiful
for harm
and that's when when jesus when they
tried to rebuke jesus for healing people
and say
you only do this by the order of
beelzebub you're healing people in the
name of beelzebub
it's like that's kind of what we talk
about you know they say that you
you know people talking about satan
healing people
saying they finna heal nobody the demons
ain't gonna heal nobody that's a kingdom
divided against itself
christie says when you use powers from
demons to do anything spiritual i think
it's wrong
yeah it's just the object of your faith
like demons exist for a reason right
they're they're guardians of
of things they are um they are
associated with
with uh with certain lower level
activities and sin just like there's
angels that are associated with higher
activity and higher vibrational things
and
alms and blessings and helping people
and
so it's it's an order that god created
when you do this this happens
when you lie this happens when you steal
this happens when you cheat this happens
you
are changing your vibrational state to
be on a lower level
with these lower level beings where they
are free to access you
and you can be a victim of them because
you've aligned with their ideology
that you you're doing the things that
that
you're creating legal ground in your
life to
um to have them around you to have them
in your ark field if you will
and the same thing with angels doing
beautiful things alms walking in the
spirit there's so much that you can do
that positions you to be in contact with
beautiful beings that want to help you
there's things that you have it's the
same with the holy spirit
the bible says grieve not the holy
spirit if you sin
guess what you grieve the holy spirit
when i gave the little example earlier
about going to that concert the holy
spirit said hey bro i'm not going
and i said okay you ain't got to go and
i went
right i grieved the holy spirit i should
have said no
okay i'm not going i'll give my ticket
away i'll get a refund i'll take the
loss
went anyway put a dude in a choke lock
at the damn concert
you know and uh almost got jumped it's
me going to a
concert that the lord said no there's
other concerts that i ca
i'm able to go to and there's no check
in my spirit everything is good
but in this in this particular one i
went anyway
and i grieve the holy spirit and the
same goes with
all spirits you do you you
you know show me your friends i'll show
you your future
when you start you start hanging around
these people these entities you start
doing these things
they start hanging around you you can
feel it
not everybody i say you can feel it some
people can feel it uh when you get
really deep into understanding spirits
and you're at a higher vibrational
frequency and you come in to contact
with a person you can even step in the
same room with them
you can go to walmart and you just you
but you walk past a person and you can
feel hey something right with this dude
little kids can feel it i remember years
ago when my daughter was little
um we'd have friends come out we have
friends of friends i didn't really know
the people
but one of our friends brought this
person
and my daughter was all she was just
scared of this person like a regular
person but the stuff this person was
doing
that nobody knew about the kids could
feel it
because they're sensitive to the spirit
and so
it's the same with us i've walked into
rooms and been able to feel when
there's heaviness going on when there's
deceit jesus was able to feel it that's
the scripture says that jesus was would
walk into certain rooms and he knew that
people were plotting on him
you ever have you ever felt that you
ever felt and a lot of times you think
that you're like
you just can read people it is you're
reading people but it's a spiritual
power
you're able to read the to discern the
spirits that they're operating in
all right we got to get out of here
something's just going to go down i see
how these people are like
all kinds of stuff you can feel it you
can read it but you but it's what you do
with it too that makes the difference
it's not to judge it's not to i know
people who um
get dreams and visions and then they
just gossip about it the lord told me
this
or this person is involved in that and
they tell everybody else but that person
like the reason you're able to pick up
on that stuff is so that you can help
the individual
or that you can help yourself and help
others like it's not just to gossip or
something you've given oh you've given
something beautiful that god has given
you over to the enemy and you've and so
you
it's become demonic you're using that
beautiful gift
that not everyone is good at you're
using it for demonic reasons
to bring hurt to bring confusion
to bring turmoil to subdivision
no you opening yourself up to
demonic attack because there's a level
of pride that allows you to do that
and pride cometh before a fall we're
talking about demons doing anything what
do you think who do you think trips you
when when the bible says that pride
cometh before a fall
and you're walking in pride who trips
you
angels well demons are angels too
because they bring a message the word
angel means messenger
it's demons they trip you thrown in the
flesh
paul had it you know one of the greatest
spiritual teachers that
we had wrote the majority of the new
testament super spiritual dude traveling
out of his body going to heaven all kind
of stuff
still had to deal with demons because of
his pride because
because of his arrogance stay humble
that's the inward reflection that's the
all the spiritual
spirituality that we champion is really
doing the inner work hold on man i'm
getting
i'm getting out of line here something's
going on i'm
running people off i'm getting agitated
at people i think i'm better than people
that's a big one thinking that you're
better than people christians thinking
that they're better than
sinners christians thinking that they're
better than non-christians
catholics thinking that they're better
than protestants
assemblies of god thinking that they're
better than baptists even within the
denominator the religion that breaks
down into the denomination
so that's pride that you have an a
uh that you're closer to god than those
other people are
listen we all got to deal with
especially if you coming from a
religious background
thinking that god isn't in that or god
doesn't speak that way or whatever the
case is
it's an aspect of god it may not be the
same peace that you have
but i guarantee you they got something
beautiful
i heard a story of this old lady who was
just always positive and she always had
something good to say about people and
always blessing her enemies and they
asked her they said ma'am
what about the devil what is he what
what is what is good about him and he
said well he's always busy
he's always he's never never not doing
something he's always got stuff to do
you know find something good man
out of it because when you change the
way that you view your situation
and you view people then those things
change that
what we're just talking about releasing
it from you like your auric field of
releasing like
oh i'm hurt i'm hurt no that's the thing
that god's gonna use to
project me is it takes pressure
it takes the anointing is to be crushed
to be ridiculed to be stomped on
you ever been stumped on by your
brothers ask joseph about it
he's been stomped out by his brothers
and god used that very same thing to
propel him into his destiny
because he had a dream he had a vision
and his brothers
seen him getting prideful he told us he
probably shouldn't have told him
told his brothers yeah god gave me a
dream and vision and i'mma be over y'all
you know and hold on you're gonna be
over who took his little coat
coat of many colors very expensive coat
that his father gave him
tried to kill him beat him up left them
for dead threw him in a pit
years later they met they met their
brother they thought he was dead and
he was a king of egypt
pharaoh and egypt ruler god took him
from the pit to the palace
we're not reading about joseph guys
we're reading about
we're reading our story in that i don't
know that joseph ever existed
we read it like it's real it makes it
more real for us but the analogy the
power in it
is when you're able to see your
reflection in it when you read the
scriptures
you're reading about yourself
it's a mirror the word of god is sharper
than any two-edged sword
able to divide between soul and spirit
flesh and
bone bone and marrow
revealing the deep secrets of the heart
that only god knows and you know when
you're reading
that synchronicity it's good stuff
with that i'm gonna say peace and shalom
thank you all for hanging out really
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and be a part of what we're doing i got
a lot of stuff coming up
a lot of stuff coming up again i'm
really excited about our uh
uh co-ed retreat coming up in december
i'm excited about my october eight week
program that we're doing the path of the
healer
getting ready to equip you guys train
you and send you out do a lot of
one-offs with people
do a lot of just uh kind of walking
people through stuff in group settings
on thursday nights but this is something
that's like
i'm gonna be dedicated to seeing you
succeed to step out into your destiny
that dream giving you the tools not
hiding anything
showing you what i'm doing how i'm doing
it and how you can do the same thing
whatever resonates with you if you don't
skip it you don't want to do a podcast
don't
you don't want to do guided meditations
don't you don't want to do one-on-one
sessions in healing don't
whatever it is but it's a it's a
small group of individuals who want to
say yes to that and so i can kind of
focus on it if that's you
check it out path of the healer truth
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in a couple days thursday love y'all
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