Remote Viewing, Contacting Aliens, Spirituality & Religion | Tyler Westan

Remote Viewing, Contacting Aliens, Spirituality & Religion  Tyler Westan
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uh Tyler West Wesson a hip-hop artists
experiencer researcher talk about
supporting the music and sharing the
music out there you said you found my
work and who I am my podcast all the
stuff through someone sharing one of my
music videos on Facebook and you found
it looked it up and then sent me a
message and here we are you do something
similar you do esoteric spiritual
hip-hop I guess I don't know how you
would frame it it's um it's kind of a
new genre in itself so there's really a
ream of reference for it so uh talk a
little bit about what you do man and
what you bring to the table brother and
thanks for coming on yeah no I
definitely appreciate you having me on
and I came across your work there was a
video that was shared and just came
across my timeline sauce industry and
instantly interested because you were
talking about astral projection and
working it into your music and
spirituality and really seriously
talking about it and I think that's
direction where I I feel like it needs
to go hip-hop needs to go into to kind
of break into that field but for me my
background has started with music and
spirituality really in Atlanta I went to
the Art Institute of Atlanta for a
couple of years studied music there and
one of the projects there was to come up
with a video a movie on our own and so I
just kind of came up with the idea
spontaneously of a dream so if we filmed
it like somebody had a dream and in the
dream they were living in an apartment
and they went across the hall and looked
in their neighbors house and looked
around their neighbor's house and just
was we're looking everything in the
dream and noticed something that was
really particular like a painting that
was really stood out and they woke up
the next morning and actually went to
that person's apartment across the hall
look you know knock on the door see if
they can come in and actually saw that
painting and so I kind of threw that
idea out there to the class as one of
the ideas because we were looking for a
group project to collaborate on and
nobody really got it they didn't know we
really understood what was what it was
about so afterwards the teacher kind of
pulled me aside and said hey I liked
your idea have you ever heard of astral
projection or lucid dreaming and I I
said no but that sounds really cool so I
was like instantly like interested I was
I was like wow that sounds like cool so
I went home and you know research it and
really you know almost became obsessed
with it for the next couple months and
tried to practice it and you know got to
a couple of the stages but it was
interesting in reading about it and then
going through the experiences of itself
so it kind of started my journey on on
the spiritual journey and then I was
also doing music at the time and nobody
really was going in that direction of
creating music about spiritual
experience or going through that that
level of like psychic phenomenon and
they're really talking like a deep
spiritual level everything was kind of
like a more materialistic type of type
of rapping so you know I just wanted to
kind of bring a different different
aspect in a different feel to it and I
hadn't really heard anything for the
four years until I came across something
like it like the work that you've been
doing so that's kind of where my music
background was and moved to North
Carolina about five years ago and really
got it oh you would say that my music I
inspired you to create something like
that like I
the first model you've seen that
inspired you know i-i-i probably created
it I only have known about your work for
maybe a month or so is it really since I
reached out to you the first day that I
reached out was the day that I a couple
months ago was the actual day that I
learned about you music cuz I was like
wow this is cool I got an I got a hit
this guy up so organically that was that
so it was something organically that you
were working on music as well oh yeah
yeah I've been working on my project
which it it's I tried to label it as
just an album it's like a concept a
concept hip-hop experimental album so
and I've been working on it for probably
seven years eight years yeah yeah and
it's it's what what it is is it's
basically a story and I want it to be
like oh I'm trying to make it so that
the beginning correlates with every song
so every song goes back to back and it
makes sense for all the way to the end
so it's sort of like a story or line but
it still keeps with the music so it
tells a story and that story is that I
had a dream in which I come back through
time in the dream and tell myself so I
kind of come back at I meet myself in
the dream and I come back through time
and tell myself that I have to create
this album the astral to change the
world to save the world basically and so
I wake up and I'm left with this dream
and then I have to create this album to
lift you know consciousness you know
what I'm saying so in a way I'm trying
to make it you know make the thought and
the idea real by making this album but
it's just taking me a lot of time
because people you know it's tough to
like explain a lot of it people don't
really understand a lot of the concepts
like quantum stuff and astral projection
time-travel you know if you if me and
you can have a conversation like that
but if somebody even in hip-hop listens
to it they just don't understand where
I'm trying to go with it so it's it's
got a like
you have to teach a little bit people
about a little bit about psychic
phenomenon parapsychology and that's
where I'm trying to bridge right now is
is bridging that that you know the
coolness factor of everything with this
science factor that's kind of plain and
dull and nothing's really going on well
it kind of works hand in hand man and
that's what I'm seeing with my podcast
for sure
like it was just hip-hop like I was
known just for the hip-hop and the
esoteric stuff that I brought to the
table and you know instead of like
trying to introduce it to people I hey
check out my work like like now it's
just something that people find
organically like if they're having an
awakening they may look up spiritual
music or they may look up something that
has my title in a song awakening 3:33
like all of this kind of stuff they're
looking it up and they're finding it
organically so and then on the on the
other aspect now of introducing the
podcast and being consistent with that
of having a following just for the music
now there's all these people who listen
to the podcast because it covers the
same subject matter they they don't even
know that I do music so therefore yeah
most of them are instantly fans of the
music I oh you do music and did not I
feel like I do it pretty good too so
when they hear it it's good quality
stuff so it works vice versa the people
who like the music they want to get a
deeper understanding of the music a
deeper understanding of me of
spirituality so they get into the
podcast and they kind of complement each
other which is really cool one question
I wanted to ask you just we don't get
too far past it um are you familiar with
the work of Courtney brown with narrow
view encase one of like the top of
remote-viewing guys who's doing these
these studies and and they're filming
and putting everything out on the
internet and it kind of got like this
online University and I only say that
because I mean I understand remote
viewing I haven't been head over heels
for it but I he reached out to me
through Jimmy Church and stuff but he
reached out wanting to do some music and
me doing songs about like dedicated to
and if you already have some stuff
similar I'd say you should reach out to
him I I never did anything with him but
he's got a huge following big YouTube
channel and he wanted to do something
with hip-hop and and that and remote
viewing and so cool yeah because I
recently in the like last three months
I've been heavy into remote viewing too
with projects and stuff so that's that's
cool definitely yes check him out um so
as far as you said you before I cut you
off while ago you were talking about you
move you moved to North Carolina and
yeah well just and how I got involved
really in like parapsychology so what
you know I've been involved or
interested in astral projection and you
know everybody is interested in
spiritual development but for me I think
I was interested more in a deeper level
on like making discoveries and like and
and you know and scientific discoveries
and stuff like that and promoting that
and I just was was confused as to why
all these phenomenon and experiences
were happening with people in it it
wasn't seen as as mainstream as accepted
as in mainstream so it confused me so I
wanted to find the missing link there of
why it wasn't accepted yet and so you
know one of the first places that I
research and found out about was the
Ryan Research Center which is in Durham
North Carolina and was one of the oldest
the oldest Center for parapsychology and
library in the United States and you
know basically this guy
JB Ryan you know started the whole field
of parapsychology which is like studying
psychic phenomenon and so is his
research center split away from Duke
University and kind of made it went
independently nonprofit and so I kind of
went there and started just going there
and reading books and just you know
they've got like basically the the New
Age spirituality section on Barnes &
Noble like time's it by 40 by 50 and
that's you know that's basically where
you know you'd want to hang out all the
time and read books so you know I would
just go there all the time and so I was
the youngest person going there by
probably like 25 30 years
and everybody was just kind of like
who's this young kid coming here and I
would come into the discussions and and
really try and learn about you know the
the terms you know PKA ESP oh you know
like near-death experiences and and so I
was actually learning like the science
about it and really learning like the
statistics and the scientific method of
how to actually test for this stuff so
like learning about all that really I
wanted to break into the field and at
that time you know what I was doing was
like hip-hop and making videos and
social media and they weren't even doing
anything close to that in the field of
parapsychology they were still on
publishing journals and doing these
conferences and you know doing all that
so you know when I first came in I had a
million ideas and wanted to break
through and they were just kind of
overwhelmed and I just kind of took a
step back and said you know I've kind of
got to work my way in on their level
you know submitting projects you know
for grants and trying to go to these
conferences you know different things
like that so going in on more of like a
scientist researcher level so that's
kind of where where I'm at at this point
is is uh on that um I mean that's that's
the best place to be I think that's the
best place to approach it is where
science and spirituality meet like
that's the that's the really cool thing
I've approached it from a similar
standpoint but I think I guess I'm more
of just because of my background
approaching it from where religion and
spirituality meet you know at this point
and in how all of these spiritual
practices the psychic abilities the
remote viewing the astral travel by
location like all of the stuff being
reported in the Bible and the Vedas and
some of these other when we talk about
ghosts with all my aliens all of this
stuff man like the ancients have
experiences it's not nothing new we're
talking about New Age or whatever people
in the religious community use that as
like a bad word oh you're just a new age
is something new and made up and you
know something for that's in the movies
but really this is something really old
so
to have these different studies man
where they're studying remote viewing
you know Courtney brown shout out to him
and what he's doing and they're like
Dara they're like going in drawing
pictures what they seen I mean did I
think you know as far as like the
success rate for what he's doing I'm not
really sure but they are doing the work
like they're literally like training and
going in and seeing what what it's about
I mean I think that probably for you
definitely for me most people in
spirituality when you first get into it
you want to know for yourself it's like
we see the stuff on TV we hear the
people that doing the lectures and all
of this grandiose stuff you watch the
documentaries but we want to know for
ourself that this stuff is real which I
guess can kind of bridge the gap between
UFOs ufology ce-5 contact aliens and
stuff like that because we've watched
Steven Greer we've watched james
gilliland david wilcock these name these
names were big for me early on you know
but I wanted to know for myself so that
cool thing with the ce-5 contacted a
fifth kind not to where you they contact
you like contacted a fourth kind but you
contact them it's a the new level so you
said you've went out and you've done
some of that stuff probably after
watching some of those documentaries and
watching those lectures right and being
inspired to go out to see if it's real
see if you can do it I mean I'm sure
that was a long thing within to do it
you did it and you said you was able to
film some stuff and you actually had
some some pretty powerful encounters out
there right you wanna talk a little bit
about that yeah
yeah and really the the self-discovery
is is a lot of what motivates and fuels
people because they hear about these
experiences and then they you know try
to do them and they actually do have the
experiences and it it wouldn't be as
powerful if they were trying it and they
weren't having the experiences they were
just you know so but yeah I had been
interested in Steven Gers work for some
time and UFOs and extraterrestrial
contact and really from just evidence
perspective my I really wanted to look
for as much information as I could
um from like government and military and
credible sources and and not just videos
because that you know ten years ago you
know was still fake videos weren't as
prevalent I guess as they are today but
you still couldn't be able to tell if
something was really like a UFO or extra
trust like if you couldn't tell you know
so they're like when he came out with
the disclosure project I was really
intrigued because you know these were
credible sources these were people who
putting their names on the line you know
to get this information out and then he
came out and started saying that he was
actually going out in the field and like
making contact and the phenomenon was
happening you know in real life with
people in groups of people so um you
know I started researching that and
learned about the app so I downloaded
the app and sorry I've been I've been
using it you know ever years I don't
know about this there's a CD v app yeah
so he's got an app and oh it's been a
it's been around I actually have wrote
them and to try and make improvements to
the app and they've they've fixed the
app a couple of times on the
improvements that I've suggested but um
so it's it's only like eight dollars
actually pretty good price but you go
out in the field with the app and it
plays the crop circle tones and you know
you go through the whole meditation
process but so I've been out a couple of
times just by myself and there hasn't
really been any any type of phenomenon
happening it's only a really it's
interesting when I go out with other
people that the phenomenon happen crazy
thing for me is that it's the opposite
man really yeah yeah cuz I I guess cuz
I've had a lot of time like I would
spend you know three four hours out
there by myself you know versus when you
go with people a lot of them get antsy
and they're ready to leave and that just
messes with the whole vibe you know yeah
yeah see I when when I usually go out
with people it's not I don't really have
the intention to go out beforehand it's
usually like group of people are out
late at night or like we're just out you
know and just kind of like hey you know
we're in a nice spot this would be a
good place to do it you want to try it
that's kind of like more of like
it's less of like planned because I
think like if you plan it there's a
little bit more of like pressure and
like people get anxious and like there's
feelings of like there's nothing
happening something but if it's more
spontaneous yeah like if something
doesn't happen there's no like there's
no like big build-up you know so if
you're just like hey man you want to try
it and they're just like yeah sure
whatever
there's no real expectation there
they're not like you know having some
big thought that's gonna happen so a lot
of the times I would just kind of do
that spur of the moment and
spontaneously and as soon as I would try
it's funny like as soon as I would turn
it on and these like it would be like
within like 20 seconds something would
happen either like shooting stars would
go or lights would start blinking but
there was one instance where I went out
with my brother for the first time in
Massachusetts and it was a really clear
night and my brother is really
interested in UFOs and I've been telling
him about the app so he had never tried
it so we went out one night and we were
just kind of out this secluded area
right near this beach I said hey man you
want to try it and couldn't been about
minute and a half in where he asked me
you know what are we what exactly are we
looking for and literally as soon as he
said that thought a light popped up in
the sky and we both looked at that at
the light and said well man that's cool
so what I do is I grab my phone and he
started filming on his phone and what I
did was grab my phone and I started with
the flashlight so I got a flashlight and
I flashed it twice and it flashed back
twice at me the light did in the sky and
that kind of like just took it to a
whole nother level and so I tried it
again so that as this this lights also
moving from from kind of like
side-to-side in the sky solid light but
it's definitely brighter than anything
was out there and so after it flashed us
twice after I flashed it I flashed it
again two times
and again if flashback twice so to me
this some kind of communication was
going on there that you know I and and
again nothing this was kind of like just
a spontaneous spontaneous plan so I had
not been planning to do this at this
spot
and so we didn't know that anything was
in that location so you know it was
really interesting that that's just that
just popped up and happened and after
that it just kind of disappeared into
the air and my brother instantly goes in
went into it's just this whole analysis
of what it could have been satellite or
starred you know in it and you know at
the end it was just like dude that was
just like an incredible experience that
you just have to take it for what it was
and so that would that was just kind of
like the the best experience that I had
from the c5 contact and now in North
Carolina and locally here I've actually
started a group it's c5 in remote
viewing group so we can actually go out
now that the weather's getting a little
bit better and you know go out as a
group and try my contact that's awesome
bro I haven't been out in a long time so
I planned to go out by myself during the
new moon you know you can see a lot more
stars and things like that just star
gaze I mean there's just so much power
and just stargazing in itself you know
yeah so I wanted to go out but then I
asked a friend because a friend was like
hey we should go out as I hey I'm
planning it he's like let's make an
event so I made I was like you know what
let me invite my people let's just do a
global contact event and wherever you
are you could just go out with this
wherever you are find a field or a
baseball field a park whatever anywhere
you can go and and do it so we we did it
and this was the 15th of last month
which was the new moon of July and I
mean uh May and I see I seen like four
within an hour and I hadn't been out in
so long so we went out there did like a
little meditation and prayer and sent
the vibes out and I got a lot of
feedback from a lot of people all over
the US man who went out and had these
encounters and stuff have you ever had
anything happened during the day have
you ever seen any of the cylinder-shaped
spacecraft or not not during the day no
I've had like psychic phenomenon I've
had a couple psychic phenomenon but
that's the only like extraterrestrial
experience I mean like they were trying
to talk to you during the day or
well no I've had like precognition
dreams so when I lived in Atlanta one of
one of the first events that really got
me interested in psychic phenomenon was
when I was in Atlanta I was also
producing music and I would let people
come in from time to time and record at
my house or in my apartment and
unfortunately I one time I let wound the
wrong people come in my apartment and I
guess they scouted it out pretty good
but um I had a dream that my apartment
was robbed and in the dream I come in my
apartment and go straight to my music
studio where all my stuff is and see
that all my equipment was gone and I
also had a backup hard drive at the time
and as you know in music your hard drive
is like one of the most important things
so my backup hard drive was in my closet
like on top of my closet and this is in
my dream so I go see that I'm Rob see
all my stuff's gone every all my
equipment I go straight into my closet
for my backup hard drive there it's
there wake up out of my dream so I was
like so weird dream three days later I
come home to my apartment same scenario
takes place I come home I'm robbed go
straight into my apartment go to my my
music studio my room all my equipments
gone go straight to my closet look at my
hard drive my hard drive was still there
and I didn't put two and two yeah I mean
obviously at the time I'm like town I'm
robbed I'm not thinking about like the
correlation of the dream but like a
couple weeks later I was like wow that
was kind of crazy with the dream so that
was one of the events another
precognition dream I had just shortly
involved my daughter which she in the
dream I dreamt that she was in trouble
and I ran upstairs and and actually
saved her you know kind of lifts her up
and she regained consciousness and
everything was okay so three days later
I had a dream in which she was sleeping
and I'm looking at her on the baby
monitor and she had this she's got like
a strap that she has on her belt on a
waistline that she holds her in their
crib or whatever and noticed on the
monitor that she wasn't there she was
gone
and I was like dang that's weird so not
good and so I ran upstairs in a panic
and
notice that as I got in the room she was
hunched over so basically the strap was
like strangling her she couldn't breathe
and so I ran over to her picked her up
and she regained her breath and
consciousness after that so those were
the two like dreams that I had that were
actually Precog that I would say our
precognition dreams
yeah that's powerful man um it's this
there's so much stuff that goes on when
we when we're asleep were able to
receive information with traveling
places and I don't claim to understand
it and I kind of scoff at the people who
do you know it's really hard to kind of
kind of grasp and figure out what
exactly okay when you sleep you're
traveling to another realm or you're
going to the real world this is the
we're in the dream world now and when
you go to sleep you're going to the real
world like it's really hard to put your
finger on what is actually happening
even with ufology and the aliens or
those are the Arcturians they're
visiting us they've been here and you
know they actually put these names and
stuff to other people who are like
experts the quarry goods those kind of
people you know um it's really hard to
say because I've had so many encounters
I should be an expert you know what I'm
saying like I've seen some stuff I've
there is weird stuff there's telepathic
communication there's there's contacting
the inner dreams there's so much stuff
but I still cannot put my finger on what
exactly is going on and so I like to
select a reference to holy books to
angelic realm and and see where the
Bible is talking about angels and how
the Angels visited people and that they
were there without them even knowing and
they sent telepathic communication to
the prophets and people would fast and
pray and was stained from meat for weeks
on end and then angels would approach
them and things like that so it's very
similar to the ce-5 initiative Jesus
going on top of a mountain to pray in
the meditate and then clouds are
communicating with him voices are coming
out of the clouds I mean what what the
hell we're staring at the clouds and
we'll receive and telepathic
communication sounds very much like the
same thing you know I see some
was that r2d2 behind you oh yeah yeah
have a little obsession with r2d2 I got
my r2d2 shirt it is bad there's so much
like even even the allegory within Star
Wars it weaves in through religion for
one every relay it's not just
Christianity but Buddhism I mean
whatever it's so funny like there's
books and like each one of those
religions will try to say that oh Star
Wars isn't an analogy for our religion
and don't write books on it but I mean
that should show you that there's a
third party who's like vouching that
we're all saying the same thing in these
religions type deal right yeah but even
in so you got religion and you got you
got just spirituality and ufology of
them I mean there's the spacecraft all
of this kind of Star Wars like literally
Star Wars and Edgar Cayce talks about
the Battle of Armageddon being fought in
outer space
all of these different correlations that
Spielberg was onto something man like
these people know something that they're
letting out through literature and
through art and through story and
through allegory just like even larval
you know somewhere like Marvel you know
like actually you know look at what
Conda and all that stuff I mean in those
spacecraft that way from lokan
uncloaking
and kids seen a minute you know they
hide that stuff within the movies I
think we could do a I was think about
doing like a full podcast or just going
live or whatever talking about all the
movies cuz I've you know when you're
sensitive you're able to pick up on all
kinds of stuff that's going on in these
movies and you've done the research and
knowledge man but I kind of want to talk
about all this stuff but then I I do I
wouldn't want to ruin it or spoil it for
anyone who hasn't seen the movie because
you know that's part of the magic is
actually experiencing it for yourself
but I've rinsed a lot of that work in my
music putting a lot of samples and clips
from movies and lectures and stuff like
that um one of the most frustrating
things about the field of parapsychology
right now is the fact that there's so
much support for the entertainment side
of these of this stuff you
near death experience you know you go on
Netflix and it's like psychic phenomenon
is involved in more than half
there's no yeah there's basically no
funding for the real research that's
going on for it you know so that's crazy
man it's crazy I will say I want to I
want to point out that you were asking
about like the methodology of the
psychic phenomenon for her like when I
was talking about my precognition dream
one of the things that I noticed just
with me of what may have caused it was
the actual event itself of the day that
had happened right so the the two things
that I'd noticed the the one thing that
I noticed between the two events that
were the same was my emotion and my
heightened emotion in that split in that
10 seconds right so in that it's almost
like I would make it similar to like
getting chased by a dog right if you're
getting chased by a dog that looks I
said about to kill you there's nothing
else you're thinking about other than
getting away right like your mind is
100% on getting away from the dog that's
like me my mind was 100% in that moment
like in the moment so I was like 100% oh
I'm getting robbed and I was like going
through a heightened emotional state of
that I've had you and I'm not usually in
you know what I'm saying so to me that
may have correlated that that event back
through time in my dream so that I was
that somehow three days it you know I
don't know timing wise I don't know but
that may have been the link to me is
that heightened state of emotion to that
I could receive that information in my
dream you know so that if people do have
those heightened state of emotions and
they're able to dream and have access to
that information and they're open to it
and they can receive the information but
if they don't know that they can it's
gonna like if you don't know that
telepathy or stuff is happening then
you're at your you know if you don't
know what it is then you don't know that
it's happening to you you know so if you
know
what psychic phenomenon is if you know
that yet celebrity what what it is and
you can look for and you can notice it
happening to you all the time becomes oh
yeah and you'll notice it more often it
happens to you more more often so that's
kind of like what it is mm-hmm yeah man
you're able to kind of create your own
reality simply because you believe it
and they're there yep you know there's
people who will never believe it there's
people who in religion is always a good
thing to come back to and like use an
analogy but there's people in religion
men who believe crazy out there stuff
but to them they're right like in their
mind this is the right way whether it be
polygamy or beliefs about people going
to hell and everybody they see on the
street is going to hell but them and
their family and their church like
that's their truth they respond to the
to anything any situation because of
that belief system and uh and that's
that's real to them and so as a man
thinketh in his heart so so so he is and
so the things that you think about the
things you speak the things you
entertain you're gonna begin to believe
it and I like the term terminology
repetition reduces resistance because
the more we see something the more we're
gonna be open to it the more that we
hear it over and over the more we're
gonna begin to believe it and and that's
good with like positive affirmations
over yourself speaking blessings over
yourself and over your family and things
like that because I begin to believe it
tell them tell them that they're that
they're loved man you know what I'm
saying tell them that they're cherished
and stuff like that just so they'll
they'll know it but also show them to
esta crazy thing about the belief system
and there's stuff that I've seen that
people will never see you know what I'm
saying and I don't think that I'm
privileged or anything that I've seen it
like there's those people too you know
and I was selected and I'm a prophet or
whatever you got the Billy Meyers and
stuff like that out there which we did a
show on that but uh you know it I think
that what we're talking about I think
it's it's for anyone to experience that
anybody can download that app and just
take the time and go out there and do
that and they can have an experience
maybe not after the first time maybe not
the second but I think if you want that
experience I think it will manifest for
you
and the reality in which we live that we
I think we're creating it man like
whatever you believe is real for you
like I I don't you know I think I think
it is relative man I think fairies exist
I think that gnomes exist and whatever
and if people give themselves enough
time over discovering whether they exist
or because they believe it it exists and
it manifests like it literally shows up
to them because they believe it I mean
like you're saying your friend with like
the whole the whole UFO thing you start
seeing them but then you start
explaining it away it's good to explain
it away at first because I've been out
there with people with every every plane
it's a UFO you know what I'm saying in
like nah yeah you want it to be real but
let's make sure that what we're seeing
is something that we can't explain it
then you have the encounter so with
fairies with gnomes with astral
projection with reading thoughts and
reading minds and like all that's real
if you can believe it whatever it is
I've experienced that in my own life and
there's been tons of placebo effects I
think I think that uh you know like just
the supernatural in religion with like
faith healers and Reiki healing and
believing that you're gonna be healed
and people get healed like it's it's
deep if you can believe it you can
receive it like in the world they say
you know if I uh if I can see it then I
believe it so if you show me I'll
believe it like that's one way to look
at it but the way people of faith in the
spirit spiritual community it's like if
we believe it then we'll receive it
whatever it is if I'm gonna be dead well
if I'm gonna if this is gonna happen if
these doors are gonna open it I'm gonna
believe it and I'm gonna manifest it by
my thoughts and in my speaking and
creating it and then I'll receive it and
see it yeah I see a lot of people online
too that you know they'll give their
take on how they feel their spirits how
they feel you know what the reason is
for them being uh you know in existence
or whatever and they'll try to convince
other people to try and think their way
instead of just you know just telling it
like they telling it like it is and
telling it how they feel and just
provide
information and let people decide for
themselves you know there's a lot of
just trying to convince people and to
you know get people to think how they
think instead of just providing the
information that's why I really respect
people who are just like you know here's
here's the information take for what it
is you know do with it would you must
I'm not trying to convince anybody have
a problem with Noah dollars these days
you know I try to approach it without an
agenda and I'm sensitive to it because
I've come from religion where you had an
agenda to win every conversation to
convince people that you were right and
they were wrong on anything anything
that there but your beliefs differed in
whatever it was you know you find out
where they're wrong and then you work on
trying to win them over to your realm of
thinking like it was really weird and
now that I look back at it it's dirty I
don't like it at all
so I maybe I'm sensitive to that now so
to know it all is whether they're in
religion or where they're in ufology I
question it you know that's that's their
truth that's what's real for them and
but you know you have a lot of
charlatans you know what I'm saying and
you question a lot of people but it's
good like everything that we're bringing
to the table I think that you know it's
for people you can test this stuff
you've been doing it you're a believer
for a reason like you've had encounters
you've you didn't just watch a couple of
documentaries and then run around
telling people like you've actually done
the research you've spent the hours out
there under the stars and investigating
and reading and referencing and things
like that so there's a reason that
people believe what they believe in if
it's something that can better people if
it can if it can help them and things
like that that's what it's about for me
um we talk about UFOs how about ufology
you know there's the I talk about that I
approach it without a without an agenda
but I think I think that would be
somewhat of a lie I like I'm open but
but there there is some agenda because
there's cringe in triggers you know what
I'm saying when someone would talk about
something that goes against what I
believe it's still there like I can
notice it like if we're talking about
the abduction phenomena like a lot of
people hate what we're talking about now
because
they're really sold on the abduction
stuff that I truth in my experiences was
happening a long time ago or those
stories came out a long time ago I've
never I haven't met anyone there's some
there's a few out there but I don't hear
that word anymore I don't hear people
saying hey I was abducted last night man
he's aliens showed up near me did all
these experiments and for me to believe
them with that - there's that whole
aspect the storytelling aspect but
people are calling themselves
experiencers contactees like when they
do crossover when they do like we're not
being abducted now we're contacting them
hey help us are you real we need some
help down here like that's kind of
what's going on now what would you say
as far as like the abduction scenarios
is something that's phased out that it
ever happened is that something you have
to be careful of with doing a ce-5
because you go out there you signaling
craft you're meditating and then you get
abducted they take you they do
experiments on you never bring you home
like those are the fears I had watching
all the movies and stuff when I was a
kid but that that's not my truth though
you know what's your experience with
that yeah well for all my research that
I've done with like extraterrestrial
contact really abduction doesn't really
play play into it at all enough
authentic on what I consider authentic
extraterrestrial contact so what I would
consider an authentic extraterrestrial
contact would be peaceful initiation
between an extraterrestrial race and
yourself and then the contact would be
made most likely through like spiritual
means telepathy or a dream and so you're
not actually I don't for my research
there's very rarely you actually
physically touch another
extraterrestrial you know what I'm
saying so maybe the your spirit or your
astral body interacts with them but like
your physical body isn't it very rarely
have a research is actually like being
worked on you know what I'm saying like
there's actual like prods and devices
going inside
you like I very rarely have read about
authentic extraterrestrial experiences
like that and what makes me believe it
even more is that people who I consider
to have extra 10 tech extra-terrestrial
experiences talk about conversations
that they have with extraterrestrials
and that other extraterrestrials say no
that stuff doesn't happen from other to
extraterrestrials humans are doing that
to themselves
I believe so that that makes me believe
that that I'm more inclined to believe
that then whatever's on TV saying that's
happening to you know what I'm saying
like for me and this is just strictly
across the board is I pay attention a
lot more to people who are actually
experiencing the events than to somebody
who's telling me about the events
themselves yes definitely you know so
like I I instantly want to go to the
source of where it's happening and I
want to find out about the information
from there I don't want to find out
about somebody who's written who's read
a report on it and then wants to tell me
about what actually I have to fire and
you know I'm saying so I mean somebody's
yeah somebody so and in the comment
section the Travis Walton trial firing
this guy which was probably the movie
that done the worst damage on me
about being afraid of aliens as a kid or
trying to stargaze or whatever because
I've seen that movie but then we see
what Travis Walton is doing now he sold
them his story and then they totally
took it and changed it and rewarded it
and made it into a horror movie when
he's like yeah I think the reason they
picked me up on that craft or whatever
was because I got too close to the
plasma ship and the energy hit me when
it took off and it it hurt me they
picked me to work on my body so Travis
Walton is out there now what twenty
something year twenty five years later
doing the UFO circuit like bringing a
different scenario that it that said no
I wasn't abducted Hollywood took it paid
me money and now I'm trying to undo what
they did um another person Ali is a good
friend of mine she's talking about the
Fourth Kind movie is pretty profound
I'll talk about that when that movie
came out when I was having encounters
and I've seen you know I've seen the
previews and stuff and I so
I made sure that I didn't watch that
movie because I knew what it was about
here's the thing too we're talking about
what's going on with the abduction
scenario there's two things I just want
to interject that we can go deep into
eat either one but we have the my lab
experiences where this military
initiated abductions were the military
have crafts and they're messing with
people just to push fear and hysteria
within euphology so that when you see a
craft you won't pull out your cell phone
and try to make lights at it and see if
it'll connect with you they want you to
be scared and freaked out they put out
the propaganda the movies and all that
stuff the my lab thing is a big deal
because some of those people who do
report the abduction scenario they see
people in military garb on the ships or
whatever they see a man in a corner
watching who's a admiral in the freakin
army watching this stuff happen with
these little beings or people in suits
whatever that's one thing that throws a
wrench in the system another thing is
people are saying aliens are demons
that's the Christian perception across
the board most mostly is that aliens are
flying around or in their demons demons
are demons aliens are not demons demons
are demons so people are waking up
having legit ghost encounters demonic
encounters they're waking up and demons
are in their bedroom there's the people
little beings on your chest there's like
the old hag syndrome the man with the
top hat there's all of this stuff that
people are having coming out of the
dream state having these demonic
encounters and calling it alien
abductions and and things like that or
they look like an alien or look like a
grey or whatever that's a demonic
encounter like pee I really believe
people are having those encounters but I
don't think those are what we would call
extraterrestrial beings showing up in
your room and messing with you in the
middle of the night yeah yeah well one
of the things too you know just came out
last year was the the to the stars
Academy and I think for me you know when
it first came out I was really excited I
was hoping to but the more
I looked into it and then you know the
more that I just kept finding out about
the information I'm worried about it
because of the fact that what I'm
hearing is that they're perceiving
extraterrestrials as a threat
yeah and they're basically going towards
that direction it seems like is that
they're identifying extraterrestrials as
a threat and you know on the surface you
know that might not worry somebody but
if you would study Steven Greer and what
he was talking about in the you know the
false flag events for extraterrestrials
in that the government basically or that
there's a there's a section trying to
get the mainstream media to think that
extraterrestrials would be a threat and
that we would have to essentially get
the military out into space you know to
to deal with them so after reading that
from Steven Greer you know even before
all the to the stars came out once the
the two stars went in that direction of
identifying threats the UFOs and I you
know I started to get worried about
about is is he leading in that direction
right into the false flag thinking that
Steven Greer was talking about and it
seems to me that he is but I'm I'm just
kind of waiting right now to see where
where that's gonna end up and you're Tom
that's kind of lines of it's early
things though and and the information
that he's releasing he's releasing
non-fiction books so he's he's coming
out with the information um
in a different approach so he's kind of
giving people a different perspective of
it so I don't know we'll wait and see
but yes it's it's it's muddying the
waters a little bit yeah it it really is
like I said we're all blink-182 fans
when I seen that he was coming out so
I've sent them several emails about
either coming on the show or working
with them at the beginning and then I'm
seeing what they're bringing out now
it's like oh this is something totally
different they made it seem like it was
going to be something beautiful and
let's make contact and this is how you
pack your ships
one of the first cool stuff you know one
of the first things that I got really
excited about was they were talking
about a platform for for UFO
identifications in your area so you
would basically log on and be able to
see you know Oh somebody just saw UFO up
and you get like a notification on your
email be like BAM three miles from
you're at somebody's ass aw yeah
yes but like you can link up with people
you know like that's one thing that the
et contact ce-5 that Steven Greer had is
he had a little network website where
you can go on and see in your area
people who have the app and you can kind
of link up and see their emails and
that's kind of how I got the ce-5 and
remote viewing group together I went on
the website and just in my area hit up
about 50 people and said hey guys I'm
going to start up this remote viewing
group anybody interested like within 24
hours like thirty people hit me back and
we're like yeah well let's do it you
know so you know it's just kind of
getting out there and getting together
with people who are who are like-minded
and interested in what you're doing and
getting the right information around let
me ask you something about this man this
is something uh I don't know if you have
much
I'm sure you've come across it I get it
I get it like crazy um mental illness
with some other stuff that we're talking
about like I'm gonna start we're talking
about it's far out there we're talking
about voices speaking to you
telepathically the voice of God the
voice of the Holy Spirit the voice of
angels the voice of aliens being able to
be in tune with other beings or the
realms talking about vortexes religion
yeah well I'm gonna preface this because
like this is a spirituality is a
breathing ground I think for a lot of
people like that to thrive who are who
have mental illness but religion is as
well because all of these think we're
all saying the same thing all of these
religions become what Islam Christianity
spirituality all of it creates this
place where a lot of people make it up
as they go or they're really having
weird stuff going in their head or
they're imagining it or whatever we're
talking about imagining it lasers power
and just entertaining thoughts or
whatever
I'll get like an overwhelming amount of
messages and it's discourage it's very
discouraging I know I'm like a symbol of
hope for these people somebody who
understands them because we're talking
about far out stuff it gets overwhelming
man like I get and it hasn't stopped
like it's getting worse like you know
people they're like yeah I talked elion
to bro you know and just but they're
they most of these people don't make
sense they can hardly formulate
sentences they talk about weird
know if they're telling the truth you
hope that they are you hope that you're
not just making it up or whatever it is
very hard man have you and I get a lot
of it like a lot it's getting very weird
at this point you know I almost saw I
contemplated just getting off of social
media you know what I'm saying cause the
jority of my inboxes are from people who
are men who are mentally ill and I
probably is a breeding ground in a place
that's okay for it ham I'm fine here
yeah I was a king in Egypt you know and
like what are you really you know a lot
of this crazy stuff and they believed it
so we were talking about earlier in
their mind they really were so they're
gonna walk around looking at life and
like there were a king from Egypt and
all kind of crazy that's just tip of the
iceberg my mother reincarnated
contacting me through facebook Messenger
all kind of weird stuff people thinking
that they're my wife like that they're
supposed to be my wife the Illuminati
told them that they were to marry me and
I got married to the wrong woman like a
lot of weird stuff and I'm not okay with
him and I don't want to promote it
either like I don't want I know my stuff
is a breeding ground for that they feel
comfortable talking to me I want to give
some type of help in healing whether
it's due relationship with God I believe
that's that's something that's powerful
for somebody to receive healing but to
get the proper help that they need have
you have you ran into anybody who kind
of makes it up as they go or you kind of
feel like they may be off their rocker a
little bit it's gonna come if you
continue to grow it's definitely gonna
come have you experienced anything like
that yeah well we they've got a couple
of groups at the research center that's
like a psychic psychic experienced group
where people can come and you know talk
about their experiences and really open
up about it and there's definitely been
some interesting stories and you know I
just try and stay really like grounded
in what what I know and what are the
information that I have and for me it
always just comes back to you know do
you have evidence or can I experience it
myself
you know like those are the two
I'm if you're telling me about all this
stuff it really doesn't help me at all
unless you have evidence I can work it
myself
I mean you can tell me all you want but
I can't really believe it or I can't
really even come to think about or give
me how it happened I'm in on unless
unless what those things are gonna
happen so yeah and you know you
mentioned religion and my wife's very
Christian and so we have a lot of
conversations and I go to church just to
get that perspective of that too and
it's something that we we deal with and
that we converse about all the time
because she's interested in what I'm
doing and there's things about
Christianity that I'm interested in
specifically Jesus and just life of
Jesus I'm interested in but there's um
you know I think that with when you talk
about like mental illness and when
people seem a little bit off is that
maybe they just they just don't have the
the right upbringing that has gotten
them to the mental stability that they
need in this society so they can't
really deal with all this information
being thrown at them and they just kind
of latch on to something that yeah that
might not be real but to them it it
feels good and it makes sense to them so
they just kind of just go with it and
sometimes you you make a decision and
you're kind of stuck with it so some
people have made a certain vote on their
politician and they're stuck with it and
they kind of just have to ride out with
who they got who they did so that's kind
of like you know with with some of the
people who who might just say outlandish
things and outrageous things you know
you just kind of have to take take it
with for what it is and until they can
actually you know bring to the table any
kind of evidence or something that they
can they can prove I think so too I
think you don't say my heart goes out to
the children or the people who are young
kids man like myself you know I just see
myself in a lot of people as far as
mental illness I had a definitely had an
overactive imagination but
who have who are receiving energies who
are impressionable who are seeing things
that little kids man
and if their vocal about it like they
have a drug for that they have Ritalin
they have whether with almost our C's or
whatever there's a lot of stuff going on
with the kids who are being born here
and and they have they have pills and
stuff that silence the voices or silence
that alien contact or connected with God
or seeing angels or whatever other
supernatural abilities you know what I'm
saying or the weird thoughts that
they're getting so my heart goes out to
a lot of those people because they're
putting them on medications and stuff of
something in ancient culture they would
prepare them for life where they would
say okay this person has ancestors
contacting them this child let's train
them up in a way that they can
understand it not be overwhelmed to be
okay versus putting them on Ritalin or
some type of mind-altering drug gotta
just turn them into a zombie so my heart
goes out to the children that are doing
that and I think I'm dealing with a lot
of those kids now who are adults you
know what I'm saying who have been on
most of them tell me hey I'm I'm uh I'm
on medication or I'm not taking my
prescribed medication what would you say
and I say I'm not here to give doctor
advice or medical advice or whatever but
you know they they look at you as
someone that they can talk to and but
it's not just spirituality it would be
okay just to say that you know in the
spiritual realm you guys you were
creating a bed for these people and a
safe environment for them to thrive or
whatever but trust me they're in
religion too man they're I mean these
are the type of people who were stopped
a bomb did themselves to run into a
building you know what I'm saying
because they believe that they're like
mentally ill to do that you know the
same type of a breeding ground goat can
go on anywhere man but that's why I
trial like at the end of the day talk
about stuff whether it is a ce-5 contact
their stings like in that that's that
helps me be a better person my belief in
the supernatural my belief in the Bible
of angelic realm that there's a angelic
assistance that there's a God out there
who cares about me like all of this
stuff that we're talking about
spirituality proves the Bible the Bible
is
of spiritual stories and spiritual
abilities that Jesus the disciples and
those who followed that teaching will
walk in and what we're talking about
remote viewing by location that's all in
their healing faith angelic contact
being led by a voice in the wilderness
and seeing starships all of this stuff
is in there so it doesn't disprove the
Bible for me for me it reiterates and
say you know what like okay there's
something to this not just this but I
think also the other books that have
similar stories in them writers saying
similar things so at the end of the day
it does come down to like what what are
we doing are we just entertaining people
are we lying to people are we tickling
people it's ears or do we have some
substance to what we're talking about
like how can this better somebody how
can it help them and I approach it from
a place that I how it's helped me and
just simply be open and honest with that
story which is your story that's your
truth
I always helped you and then therefore
we I think we you know create a place
where people can thrive and not feel
marginalized not feel like they're crazy
and in many aspects whatever I had give
some people a hope for this life and how
to give yeah you know how to cope I'm
going through that with my with my kids
now I've got a five year old son and a
three-year-old daughter so I'm raising
them you know waking up and asking about
what they're dreaming about and you know
talking about psychic phenomenon and
explaining to them or astral projection
is so they can understand you know
trying to get them that's what I'd love
to do I'm actually trying to document
right now I'm trying to teach my
daughter how to go through astral
projection so you know I would have jazz
just something really cool that I
thought of to do is is you take two of
two of her dolls so one of she's got
this like life-size Elsa doll whatever
so you lay down lay down the Elsa doll
on the bed and then you have a mini Elsa
doll so you make like the Elsa doll the
big ones going to sleep you close her
eyes and then you start kind of like the
vibrational stage and then you met the
little Elsa doll pops out of the little
one and you have her fly around the room
and like she's her astral bodies flying
around and you make sure that my
daughter made sure that my dog
knows that the big else is still
sleeping of all the little else's our
spirit flying around and fly over to her
brother's room and see what her
brother's doing and then we'll fly back
to her body go right back in her body
and the big Elsa wakes up and goes on
with her day and so if you can go
through exercises with that with kids
and have them understand like
spirituality and like if you have a
deeper conversation like ask them about
death you know what do they think
happens when they die when you die like
what do they really think and then talk
with them about it you know I had an
early age you know don't wait until like
16 to talk about it you know or you know
or or don't wait to them to come home
and ask about it from their friends cuz
their friends saw a TV show that you
know what I'm saying like parents in the
world
exactly exactly so that's and that's
what I'm learning right now how is is is
that have to you have to be on the
forefront with your kids and really have
to teach them or they're gonna turn it
they're gonna turn in something that you
don't want them to there's gonna be a
product of this society or a product of
the environment which in a lot of cases
right now I don't agree with a lot of
stuff going on out there man on TV and
stuff but if you don't you're not on the
offense you know you're gonna be in on
the defense years later man I remember
when I was a kid I was just thinking
about this probably yesterday it's funny
you mentioned death or whatever but I
was just thinking about it like
yesterday the first time that we had a
babysitter who was watching us and it
was just one a friend of the family
older guy he was watching me and my
sister we had to be like five or five
six
it was really young I was watching I
Love Lucy and we was watching it and was
in black and white on TV and um that's
not about where she Adar's they're gonna
be in new shows or some he said no she's
dead right how'd she die well she had a
heart attack or sometimes like oh that
sucks as I told us about death and uh
yeah everybody has to die one day was I
what like this kind of death of you're
just this little innocent kid yeah but
he dies one day what died we're not
gonna exist anymore
what happens when you die
no nobody knows you just don't exist is
this black because I was like panicking
at like hyperventilating just went a
little child finally us to you know
think about death for the first time I'm
a little playful kid enjoying life and
then come to the notion that it's gonna
come to an end one day it was scary
panic yes I am screaming almost like it
was insane but you know so therefore
it's good to have this discussion cuz we
can talk to other people besides the
babies here about what happened I think
like and like religion you know religion
like with with my kids with what I see
is is they'll tell you but they won't
explain it you know like they'll tell
you when you die you go to heaven but
yeah you know like if I ask my kid what
happens when you die it'll say you go to
heaven but well and then I'll say what
does that mean he doesn't know what that
means you know so I think that if if
things were explained a little bit
better instead of just giving them
something to say like an automated
response like they don't understand
exactly what happened when this looks
like death at this point so you kind of
have to explain it like it easier you
know simpler way so that they can I'm
gonna return that to any less that's
just something that yeah yeah I know cuz
we think that we're gonna look like this
you know we're gonna look like our
physical selves and we're gonna be with
our family and friends up in heaven and
look the same way and and stuff but um
I'm research and from people who have
had near-death experiences and Connor's
it and in the descriptions even say that
we won't beat woo you know we're gonna
be as the angels are which they're
fireman their child they they can take
on the appearance of men as as at will
but their energy man their light that's
what we were like light within these
these are these earth suits man that we
have you know we're essentially like as
above so below you would see like an
astronaut would go into outer space and
he had to put on a special suit so he
can move around and so for us to exist
down here on the earth it's almost the
same we're these light beings we have to
put on a suit so that we can exist here
and move around as well maybe because of
you know the density of the air or the
that's fear that we can't exist or be
seen here so we have to slow down time
in all kind of stuff and so here we are
having these these encounters and I
believe that we're connected in heavenly
places I think that uh that we are going
to go back to energy that well but but
it's a conscious energy I think we're
gonna be consciously aware of each other
and of our life and of our experiences
and that we are gonna exist out there as
well as above so below it's a mirror
image man I really believe it so um so
what so what was the first thing for you
as a kid who talking about your kids
we're talking about ce-5 contact like
what was the first thing that kind of
got you into it as a kid was it the
movies was it supernatural encounters
like or was it something new did it uh I
think yeah I think it was this um my mom
told me a story when I was really young
about when my grandmother passed away
and I was really close from with my with
my grandmother and I might've been like
5 or 6 or 6 or 7 at the time I'm not
sure how old I was but my mom told me
about the story of when she passed away
the day of the funeral and she said she
was driving away in the car and she
silently to herself kind of said goodbye
to her mom and as she said that three
street lights went out as soon as she
did that and she knew at that time that
that was her mom saying goodbye back so
that was the very first comment their
very first thing that got me interested
and it's funny ever since then uh I'll
have street lights go out very often so
it's it's it's kind of something that
just kind of sticks with me
um and and just kind of a the very first
event that just kind of has stuck with
me throughout my life
what about aliens and UFOs what was the
earliest stuff with that well I mean
I've researched it a lot and other than
the ce-5 I've never really had any type
of like experiences
I'm just trying to think of maybe any
other ones any movie any other that gave
you a preconceived notion about what
they are like I'm a kid no I've never
really watched any movies that have
really kind of inspired me in terms of
like spiritual type of things I know
that like the first documentary like
when I first saw loose change that kind
of spurred a little bit when when
somebody kind of went off and did their
own thing and find out their own
information and presented it by
themselves
I definitely respected that and I would
like to do something like that and I
think like one of the main things that I
think is missing in slike psychic
phenomenon and why it hasn't been
accepted in the mainstream it's just
like the marketing aspect of it like
nobody has really come in and I think
there's a big opportunity for somebody
or just people in general they just come
in and and to take advantage and
financially to to come in and to just
grab a hold of the whole the whole field
and and promote it and because really no
marketing in the actual science of it so
I'm talking more of like the scientific
part of it because it really won't be
accepted until science accepts it and
right now we're kind of in this like
quantum type of stage where you know all
the spiritual stuff is being explained
by quantum mechanics and so all these
spiritual terms are in essence gonna be
replaced by these scientific terms is is
what looks like it's gonna be happening
and it's going to be hard to explain it
to people with these scientific terms
and all the scientific stuff but the
bridge has to be made somewhere and so
that's kind of where I then you as well
you're bridging it from the spirituality
to the science so that everybody can
watch it and understand what's going on
and take that Lex next level into
consciousness
yeah I think um I think everything helps
man I think that uh every little bit
that we're doing to whether it's
reducing the fear um Travis Walden
undoing the work that he originally did
and having a change of heart and really
understanding what happened every little
bit helps and so the you know the movies
that are coming out I mean there's a you
know people love spiritual movies the
psychological thrillers the supernatural
thrillers at that scary movies which
they're not too many good ones out
anymore but when we were kids there were
tons like yeah so there is a market for
it and there is like that was a big
thing for me though the movies and stuff
that got me into you know witchcraft and
the occult early on I was uh the movie
the crafts you know I'm saying like
watching that movie religiously watching
somebody mentioned watching et in the in
the comments here you know watching et
you know the earliest memories of an
alien or a monster or whatever you know
and then the whole thing with the movie
the craft with the witchcraft or et is
that these are monsters that might or
abilities or or realms that might
actually exist like there might be
aliens out there they you may be visited
one day by an alien if you do the right
rituals and get into it you may be able
to experience what those women
experienced in the movie the craft like
these type of things that that opened me
up so we see the power of entertainment
the power of music um we just look at a
generation lost out there power of music
and in the dumbing down of a society and
the the glorification of drug culture
now you know with with music you talk
about coming out of Atlanta and working
with some of these big names Jeezy and
stuff like that and I'm sure you've
heard the analogy you had where we come
from all the rappers were bragging about
being drug dealers now the rapper's are
bragging about being drug users you know
what I'm saying their name in themselves
after drugs a little zan Molly percocet
like stuff in the music and that stuff
like thriving now and it's hurting it
really is harm
people man so that's why like if we
bring something to the table what I'm
doing or what you're doing with the
music aspect of it as well music is so
powerful and if we can if we can find
the right Avenue and do it good do it
with excellence and rival the production
quality and and but then again you're
talking about the marketing of it like
there's not a huge budget on it and
thank God that it's something
organically and that people who are
undergoing awakening across the globe
they're organically finding what we're
talking about in the right people are
here it's different for me from like
religion because I had to proselytize
that knock on your door hey have you
heard about the good news of Christ or
whatever now I just do a video about the
good news of Christ and people who are
supposed to find it like they're gonna
find it or the good news of yeah of a
ce-5 contact or a psychedelic journey
and people who are looking for the stuff
organically with the internet now
they're gonna find it in so the
community you kind of find your tribe
and you find your people and you put
that vibe out there and be open about
your story like if we wasn't talking
about this these people in the chat
wouldn't be here the people who are
impacted by our work and feel loved and
feel a part of a community they wouldn't
they would you know be displaced or try
to find others who was who was you know
being open with their story that similar
giving them some type of answers by just
being open with your story you know what
I'm saying yeah and you're helping
people by just being open not doing
nothing
no parlor tricks we're not trying to
convince you at all not trying to make
nothing up we're just trying to get to
the bottom of it together and be open
and honest with our experiences and that
right there is like where I've seen the
most power at that people are being
impacted because we're just being honest
you know yeah for sure but at an hour
and 15 minutes and man you want to go
ahead and show you links where people
can check out your music I know a lot of
people have already looked you up and
checked you out here in the chat yeah
yeah listening on the podcast and where
they can listen to your stuff and
somebody made a comment about your
artwork and stuff really really good
stuff man yeah yeah absolutely looks
really good my website I've made a
website just
really kind of promote everything that
I'm doing
music-wise science-wise spirituality is
that the Astro comm so th e AST RAL the
astral comm so that's really my main
website I do some marketing too so I
help small businesses some a couple of
books that I'm gonna be helping release
later on this year
couple happen to do with spirituality I
do want to mention there is one book
that I'm gonna release later on this
year that I think could be absolutely
huge it has to do with extraterrestrials
Jesus Christ and Atlantis so those are
those are three things that are pretty
big subjects that people are have a big
interest and all three are contained in
one book it has a really incredible
story to it and it's supposedly real
supposed to be real so what I what I'd
like to do is if it's okay I'd like to
send you kind of the first chapter and
like summary of it and you know maybe do
what you like share it or whatever with
the with the fans and everything but I'm
excited it's gonna be called contact
Atlantis so I'll be coming out later on
this year but for the website just the
Astro comm you can check in on
everything that I'm doing yep really
good website man people are really
checking it out so brother I appreciate
you coming on I really enjoyed it we got
to do some work together man we're in
the same field and not in competition
with one another we're working together
man so anything you need hit me up let's
do some stuff together and get some of
this stuff out there this artwork
creativity and and telling our story
which is simply it so let's work
together man
first sure man definitely thank you I
appreciate you having me on man
definitely man I enjoyed this
conversation bro
awesome thanks man Shalom brother peace
tastes
ala Wesson every everyone I got his
website his website is really cool
website is really cool man enjoyed this
conversation death is the only guarantee
is what home sauce says yeah bringing
bringing the children aspect into it um
and I'll say this we're gonna be working
on a website let you know Ali - I see
your comments about the kids and I know
you work with kids about this and try to
you know these kids are bringing you
these comments I know we said we've had
these conversations before these kids
are talking to you about this stuff so
you gotta have something to tell them
working on a website with Tariq Tariq
Bibby which is indigo profit he's
commissioning me to build a site to get
out the star seed stuff for the children
and start talking about that so he's
putting together like teachings and
courses that it's open up Ali or anybody
out there who wants to contribute to
this effort this Web site are gonna be
doing courses and teaching stuff that
they can bring to the table and it's
gonna be cool so we'd be working on that
really soon for star seeds and children
and stuff like that so a lot of people
will be able to contribute so if you
want to write articles man get on top of
it there'll be a place for you any type
of subject matter that has to do with
star seeds or anything for children any
type of exercises like the brother was
talking about with the doll thing like
that would be cool to put it in words
and put there so if you're I know you're
gonna be listening to this Tyler get
with me on that we're gonna be doing
that website I'm gonna help them promote
it and stuff too so
tark babies doing it they're in talks
right now financially how does how to
about building it and supporting it for
trying to find the right way where
people can submit their own articles and
things to it so it should be cool all
all on star seed children and people who
are having these encounters and stuff so
say a big thank you to everybody hanging
out with this man everybody supporting
what I'm doing
wow that was a repeat thank you for the
donation Christy
he says gotta love the aliens for
shizzle my nizzle thank you for that I
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this thank you for the donation I really
appreciate that
um yeah man I was I was on Kristy Lee
show last night and there was a topic
that uh I wanted to talk about I was
talking about on there just organically
man it just came out but it's talking
about reaction videos right
there's a lot of people who are doing
reaction videos on YouTube and they're
they exist off of reacting to other
people's work I mean they're reacting to
old music new music they're reacting to
viral videos and it's just them reacting
to a video and it's getting big like
everybody's starting it it's a good way
to I guess start a platform on YouTube
to react to other people's stuff and so
they got a video of them watching a
video and doing their response in this
there's really epic thumbnails of like
ah or by just looking crazy or whatever
from to make you want to click it so
there's reaction videos that are really
big right now and so it came to my
attention that a lot of people out there
with in the church realm like in in
ministry they have reaction ministries
that you don't bring anything original
to the table you in your ministry and
what you're doing exists off of reacting
to what someone else does
you're not creating anything reaction
videos would be fun I would like to do
them but I would rather create something
bring something to the table birth
something that did didn't exist until I
put my hands on it right and so the
whole reaction ministries manages all
these people out there who they they
only respond to what other people are
doing whether they you know we did I did
the video yesterday about you know Benny
Hinn and all that I was a snippet that I
put out and a lot of people have Benny
Hinn exposed ministries or they're just
reacting to what they don't like and and
I'm and I'm coming from a place of like
where I used to do that as well like I
was known for what I did
don't like and I would be very vocal
about false doctrine and stale how to
expose these lies of doctrine and how to
stay away from Benny Hinn and creflo
dollar and TD jakes and this kind of
stuff and so I was kind of known for
being that guy who exposed you by doing
the work of God but this is this is a
reaction ministry and I remember man
hearing the voice of the Lord speak to
me years ago
when I was in that place of light look
you want to combat false doctrine you
want to combat wrong teaching and false
prophets and stuff the best way to do it
especially the only way to do is to
teach it the right way if these people
are teaching tithing wrong these people
are teaching giving wrong and things
like that or doctrine about anything
that you don't agree with you believe as
follows it's not to be known for calling
their names out and pointing them out
but simply teach it the right way
because you're gonna be known for what
you're against rather than what you're
for and you have a whole ministry that
but that's what you'll be doing and we
see a lot of that going on in
Christendom where people have reaction
ministries you don't create anything you
don't create music you react to music
you don't create music videos you react
to music videos and they're doing it you
don't create ministry you don't create
teaching you don't create of videos
about what you're for you create videos
about what you're against and you're
reacting to everything that goes on out
there so that's I was a revelation I
went off on
Christie Lee's podcast but I kind of
wanted to bring that up man because it's
pretty deep of having a reaction video
they're always like on the defense there
is no offense they're not going out
there taking the land creating something
you know birthing something whatever it
is so I just want to encourage you guys
to do that man make sure that y'all are
bringing something beautiful to the
table and not just reacting to the
things that you don't agree with and
believe in so that's something I wanted
to speak on yeah other than that man it
was a really good episode I enjoyed it
Tom Delon is the we talking about to the
stars Academy this is timed alone from
the band blink-182 so talking about him
so he come out with the tutor Stars
Academy and you thought that he was
gonna be coming up with some cool
creative stuff they said he wanted to be
the Disney of ufology I said hey that
sounds cool I'm in ufology I do songs
about this I tried to reach out to him
but I'm gonna find out like what they're
doing is something totally different so
I'm just that binary says that is
awesome do you want to be remembered for
what you're against or what you're for
yep yep you were just reacting everybody
stuff what you're against you're against
this against that and yep oh yeah thank
you guys for hanging out with me I
really enjoyed this episode thank you
guys for the donations and stuff Christy
um if you want to support my work if you
want to help keep me on the air just uh
patreon is the best way to to do that I
mean even for like doing and doing a
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musician there's not a lot of money in
this music like I'm not selling like
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YouTube and you make pennies off of that
so there's not a lot of money at all so
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binary since I've bought all of them
Elias says I've never resonated with to
the Stars Academy why would you trust x3
three-letter agency cohorts yeah I don't
either man like I guess I got excited
right when it came out because Tom
DeLonge was in it you know and I know
the power of art know the power of music
he had his Angels and Airwaves airwaves
band and stuff that think they talked a
little bit about that kind of stuff but
there's a lot of music out there now
that talk talks about what we're talking
about here there's a lot of songs and I
wanted to we didn't talk about it but
there's a lot of a lot of bands who may
have just touched touch on some of this
stuff but that's all they do they just
touched it's not like everybody it's not
like every song is about this or they
tackle the subject matter they may do
one song or even put a few lyrics here
and there and sprinkle it through the
music um I don't know why maybe they
think they're doing good but if we look
at someone like b.o.b and stuff he's
very much into the conspiracy
conversation but um it would be really
cool to hear these guys do a lot of
stuff about it I mean a lot bo-beat does
some of it like yo we do we badass he he
does some stuff and tec-9 like all of
these people have just done a little bit
about conspiracies or spirituality or
they just sprinkle stuff in there but I
love it when I'm able to hear somebody
who would produce albums on top of
albums about this kind of stuff and
really going to depth about detail about
spirituality and spiritual practice
where we have conspiratorial --'tis the
group
hats off love those guys conspirator
allottee you got the lost children of
babylon myself you have Tyler I mean you
know in this
about doing it well you know somebody
whose people who are bringing this stuff
to the table and using the impact and
power of of media and of entertainment
and using it for a good reason
that's something too we can address too
because I put that video out about you
know our is Benny Han and Joel Osteen
creflo dollar are they false prophets
and someone said I think they said that
I think that anybody who makes a profit
off of the word of God is a false
prophet PR o-- pH bureau fi T that's
what they said and they're doing it for
false prophets I've been on like every
spectrum of this of studying and a
belief in and stuff and I'm one who's
who supported by people who believe in
what I do so when you break it down it's
like this like there's people who
believe that uh well there's people out
there who are doing bad stuff right
there's drug dealers there's sex
traffickers this be people promoting
porn people who kill steal Rob for money
and they get paid they get commissioned
to do the stuff they make a living doing
wickedness doing evil stuff they make it
live a good living doing wickedness but
why not the people who are trying to
promote righteousness why can't they get
paid why can't they make money off of
whether it's selling a book or a CD in
sp I had a good brother yesterday post
something about how many books did the
Apostle Paul sell you know Paul he was
building tents like because nobody would
support him but he does talk about you
should be supported off a shed spreading
the gospel like people should support
you they should open up their home they
should bless you they should take care
of you if you believe in it when it
comes down to the message of tithing
that's a big thing with with the
scriptures and with churches where they
they are supported through tithe and so
tithes in itself and supporting someone
there's not a bad thing
like it's really a good model to 10% of
your earnings to give to something that
you believe in what your treasure is
there your heart will be also
where your heart is a your treasure lies
so whatever you believe in you're going
to spend your
don't tell me you care about kids in
Africa or going hungry my heart just
hurts for them no if your heart hurts
for the kids down in Africa who are
hungry you're gonna get what a program
I'll get with missionaries who are
actually over there putting feet on the
ground beating people if your heart
really hurts for them
I get where'd you spend your money where
where you put your hard-earned money
shows what you believe in all of us we
can't lie about it I care for the
homeless my heart hurts for the homeless
I wish they could it can eat it doesn't
cost a lot of money to feed the homeless
there's certain I remember man we would
go out on like Wednesdays they had a
special at Sonic Sonic
a fast food restaurant 25 cent
hamburgers 25 cent hamburgers we would
go out there and we'd buy 5050
hamburgers and just find random homeless
people around the city and just feed him
and hug him hey man got God wanted me to
tell you he loves you you hasn't forgot
about you man you're hungry here you go
just something little like where your
treasure is your money is where your
your your heart is so don't don't it
talks about faith without works it says
faith without works is dead you can tell
somebody in the Bible clearly paints
this picture of you bidding someone
farewell or wishing that they hey I'll
be praying for you that you get somebody
to fix that get a car for you and you
got the money to fix this person's car
or you got the in selecting and know how
to do it and you don't do it hey man I
hope you make it I hope you succeed well
let me let me show you how to succeed
let me show you what's working for me
let me freely give as freely if I have
received so when it comes to money if
you believe in something you'll support
it with tithing again if you believe in
a church building if you have a
congregation or an ministry or something
you believe in you'll spend money and
it's not about
it's different when they try to twist
your arm into giving or beg you to give
or teach you tell you that if you don't
give God will take it like I've been a
part of ministries like that they tell
you if you don't ties and give your 10%
that belongs to God and God will take
that money from you and then that's the
money straight demonic um I've been in
there like I've been in in those
churches where we had to write down how
much we owe God because we couldn't ties
like man Oh God six hundred dollars we
got to pay it back and was like should
we erase it what do we do
and then so therefore it produces this
this mindset of when bats when calamity
happens you're looking for calamity to
happen that is crazy for you to be
alieve ER and go around looking
expecting bad things to happen to you
and they will give you examples man to
tell you that your car will break down
your washing machine will stop working
but we're like man God's good like he's
the angry mobster my god was a mobster
like hey man you got my money shake you
down
Pat you down my money yet man give me my
money
I'm telling you guys like well-meaning
to do churches beautiful congregations
taught this stuff and it wasn't just
singled I've been to a lot of churches
who taught that that's a scary man and
that's demonic so but tithing in general
is it's it's it's a good principle man
but when people take it to those
extremes when people take it to those
extremes man it gets crazy say like uh
you know you're not going to be blessed
until you like
your tithes is what you Oh God
you won't be blessed until you go above
the tithe praise God you had to go above
the tie so you give you 10% but that's
just what you owe God that's the
baseline but you have that when you go
above your tithe and give it an offering
then God will bless you listen I believe
in karma I believe that you reap what
you sow I believe that those who give
sparingly will also reap sparingly with
anything that's that's the universal law
seed time and harvest if you sow into
something you know that you believe in
that you're gonna get it back when you
when somebody's going through calamity
and you sow friendship you so kind words
to those people when you're going
through a hard time
I believe it'll be there for you you
know you're looking for support and
we've talked about this you're looking
for support you want people to support
your ministry you want somebody to
support your podcast or whatever but
you've never supported anybody
you've never poured into anybody you've
never gone out of your way to help
people but now you're asking for help
okay
let's see how that works out with the
universe with God let's see if God will
bless that and so that's what it's about
what it's about man it's about whatever
you want for your life bless other
people with it
get out of the competition mindset get
out of I'm alive to survive mindset and
expect blessings those who give
sparingly will also reap sparingly like
those are principals man that at the end
of the day they work you know I'm saying
and and that go it is better to give
than to receive and so but I say if you
give you will receive and so that's the
beauty of it um it's when it's abused
that it becomes something bad whether
it's tithing whether it's offerings
whether
you're promised all these guys on TBN
you know there's a lot of that stuff
going on it's a lot of that stuff going
on some Love Bug says I like the Free
Hugs campaign yep
I got a good friend of mine who does
that goes out and just holds up the
signs and pushes consciousness out there
with just hugging people free hugs hugs
campaign so yep
don't Estelle top these comments but
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the support and we'll do it again very
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