Restoring The Foundations | Kenny Rideout
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there's a lot of people trust me I'll go
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toward me and your family to some kind
of Wyatt I wanted to be here with you to
do this you know because I know with
that the guests that you have on and
everybody's got questions and you know
sometimes we forget to just look at the
Bible look back at the Bible and you're
always pointing people back at the Bible
and back of Jesus and you know it's it's
important that everybody knows where
your foundation is and where you you
know what what you're actually building
your faith on instead of just the
individual thing that you believe in I
mean yeah I try to do it strategically
like cuz this isn't a Christian show you
know no you listen to the intro there's
a bunch of Christians who listen you
know what I'm saying the intro should
like freak you out if you're not into
that stuff if you're not into the
discussion of aliens ESP psychic
abilities you should probably turn back
now that's the disclaimer essentially
but there's a lot of baby Christians who
listen and some of the stuff we talk
about may seem deep its deep for some
people depending on what level you are
maybe some things that are deep should
be elementary stuff there's definitely
that going on like a you know grown men
drinking milk in the churches and stuff
like that I think
that's why some of the some of the
conversations we have here intrigues
people because they're looking for some
some more deeper intellectual
conversation that let's face it you know
you're discouraged from having in
churches I've been in churches where
we're having not heated debates but
we're discussing is starting with other
members of the church or elders and in
the pastor but hey y'all we're talking
about that well they work we're just
like we're having a friendly discussion
like we got a iron sharpens iron just
say the least you know so to have a
platform in a place where people come
together to do that it's growing I mean
rather this then somewhere else right
rather than the Christians who have the
questions going to you know
what's you know there's that you know
this there's that because uh you know
many there's a lot of truth in what he
said yeah he's just you know falling for
the same lies that humans have fallen
for since the beginning of time yeah
well it comes a [Â __Â ] I mean with with
the platform I mean I get it all the
time you know the baby Christians who
listen to your show I don't think
there's many baby Christians listen
myself but but the baby Christians who
listen to you so are now gonna go check
out Jordan Maxwell that's true I have to
deal with that those are the
repercussions definitely that could be
bad really could be bad but the the the
what this show was founded upon of unity
walking with people and me infiltrating
their following yeah the biggest shows
I've done have been Jordan Maxwell you
know and so do you have let's just say
on the only YouTube in 60,000 people who
have no idea about me about my faith
about what I believe but they love
Jordan Maxwell and they tune in to this
random guy true seeker this random guy
and now you know they hear my story
Jordan Maxwell's off the show I kind of
share I'll kind of straighten up some
things and bring some things to the
light and and that's in and essentially
a lot of times pray at the end of the
episodes and I've gotten those mess
just where people are touched they're
watching a show about esoteric knowledge
and mysticism true seek appraise at the
inn they encountered the Living God at
the end of a alien episode sure that's
what it's about man yeah and you see
that yeah not everybody does you know
it's not I you know we don't you talk a
lot about our not needing the approval
of others and living for their approval
if you live for their approval you'll
die at their rejection knowing who you
are in Christ and so I'm able to with
the grace to go out and build on top of
this stuff and so I think that kind of
leads us to what you wanted to get into
tonight a foundation what does the
foundation mean um the weird thing is
like every when I approach everything
when I approach the controversial stuff
tarot cards mushrooms aliens whatever
the case is like it's upon the
foundation of Jesus Christ as my Lord
and Savior of me walking hand in hand
with him daily when that when the
cameras are off like that's them that's
when it really counts you could say
anything when these cameras cut on but
that's my foundation not everybody knows
that I have to kind of react splain that
to the new guests so when people hear me
talking about that I don't think I have
to like relate the foundation every time
I'm building upon that so what would you
say about how important is a foundation
well friend what is your foundation you
know I'm saying even from the Bible the
foundation the the story Jesus told
about the wise man who builds his
foundation on the rock and the foolish
man that builds his foundation on the
sand and you know storm comes the weak
foundation house falls and that's just
you know that's yeah if I hadn't had
such a belief in God you know a few
months ago our house burned down to the
ground lost every last little thing and
that storm could have been enough to to
make somebody's faith house fall but I'm
not gonna let it because my foundation
was strong
I know I don't understand why it
happened and it doesn't matter because I
know that God's got my back God's you
know that's what it's about
you're gonna be tested in your faith and
you gotta be careful how you build your
faith because I mean if it's weak in any
one area that that's where the devil is
gonna come yeah everything that can be
shaken will be shaken and it's good like
it's a good isn't healthy
right because we've built things we've
latched on the things we've let people
ride our coattails or
walk hand in hand with people who who
weren't supposed to be there and there
sometimes they could be shaken off of us
man even like a dog shaking off its
fleas man yeah you know what I'm saying
like the foundations will be shaking it
so that foundation which is Christ which
is the solid rock we you know that I'm
saying a mouthful when I just say Jesus
Jesus is the father is a hey that's just
not just a name that's like that's like
my whole past and what it mean it
would've meant then and what it means
now of the love of Christ should have
brought in our hearts the morning start
like it's so deep now and you keep
growing in your revelation he's not just
your Lord or he's not just your savior
he's not just your whole vijaya your
provider like that foundation is so much
and in these conversations not everybody
gets that so we have to kind of restore
the foundations or you know represent
them and because people don't know and
it's key I'm thankful that uh that what
I do I am tactful with it and there's so
many people who have come to to faith in
Christ and and you know I'm saying the
love of Jesus through what we're doing
here and not even know that that's what
they're getting into
so with dealing with the foundation man
everything you can built you can build
upon it it's gonna be shaken it's
essentially like the wood hay and
stubble everything that we put on a
jewelry your garments
Bava talks about like having a garment
of praise and of having like these
garments of filthy rags and things in
these different analogies throughout the
scripture that they're gonna be burned
you're gonna be tried with fire and so
the only thing that's gonna last as the
gold and the precious jewels and the
gems and and those are the things that
are built upon the beautiful foundation
of Christ that that won't won't waver if
your foundation is something else or if
it's built on the seashore you know I'm
saying when when the moon is right in
the high tire comes in its gonna wash
out that foundation many people fall in
the church hurt and they leave God
because their pastor sins toward a
pastor ran off with a woman things like
that so I would hope that they at least
had the strong foundation that Jesus did
die for their sins and you know I know
the church hurt but hopefully they're
not Jesus hurt because it wasn't you
know when Jesus said did it it was a man
that yeah that shows you what people
have their faith in when we talk about
church hard and people like people like
to throw that term around by somebody
who doesn't fit in or somebody who's
like stepped away from that they say
your church hurt or whatever I think
that's a process I think everybody has
to go through that you know whatever
Church hurt or rejection just like Jesus
had to go through it you know I'm saying
it even louder once he'd love you know
ah stuck we still go to it you know I've
been kicked out of a few churches in
Mobile yeah sorry I can't do it uh tom
tom morello from Rage Against the
Machine says if you don't have a rap
sheet you're not doing God's will like
if you don't have some type of record
where you're you know causing some type
of Anarchy even in a place like a church
or whatever the case is you're not doing
God's will but it shows you who that who
your faith is in like if you in a
situation and the pastor falls away from
God or pastor leaves and goes to another
church because he got a new wife and
you've you lose your faith in God well
that shows who you had your faith in
yeah and that's a good shaking like you
should be you should be shaking there's
a lot of people who are just like in
those buildings just to be there
building in the face and the preacher or
their face in the community by empty
words that are just being said to fill
the collection plate and I hate to say
it but a lot of churches yeah it's yep
and it's it's really weird when it when
it comes down to that but um what is
your foundation man we're talking about
foundation in general just give a little
bit of background of like your story
where you come from and how you was able
to build your firm foundation well it
was a long journey I've been in church
my whole life shortly after I started
going to college I pretty much stopped
going to church I know that a lot of
people what did the professor's of the
party and or what I mean well it was you
know a I'd see those things I'd see the
the humans in the church not really
being who they told me I should be and
yeah you know my spirit it wasn't all of
them I had some great examples but then
there's some other examples that weren't
so great and then my friends you know
they can bring it down real quick some
some of them really just weren't
Christians and thought all that was
stupid and you know those were the cool
kids to me that I wanted to hang out
with so that's definitely gonna
influence you and I don't know I just
life was rough I went through two
divorces and I still believed in God the
whole time but it's more like I was mad
at him or something mad at you know the
way my life was turning out not
realizing that it's because of the
decisions I made not because of God
because he gave me every chance to
succeed and I didn't take half of them
but after the second divorce and moving
down
to Alabama I was trying to find the
bottom of a bottle for probably about
two years and I'm probably lucky to be
alive I probably did more drunk driving
in those two years than I did sober
driving Wow
but then I met my wife believe it or not
and I just God kept showing me cuz I
still talked to God even mad at him
drunk as I was I still believed in God
and believed that he created the world
and it wasn't evolution first of all
that's a big foundation I want to touch
on later but he he just has this way
this supernatural way of pointing little
tiny things out to you about one person
that remind you of everybody in your
whole life actually when I was a kid I
had recurring dreams of just a face I
didn't really know what it was or
anything well um it turns out that was
actually my wife's face and when that
hit me that was a shock I mean I I'm not
lying I didn't feel bad on me right now
but it's a little things like that that
you know I know that God can tell people
the future for sure absolutely I know
that there are things out there that we
can't all see some people can I mean
that's in the Bible too
I know that there's things that we're
just not supposed to understand and we
have to be okay with that at some point
because don't tell me that the universe
works and had an Angels travel
what technology they use was that even
any technology it's you know it's God's
creation who are we to tell him how it's
made you know but I don't know it was
just a little things like that and then
I really started studying the Bible and
I really yeah cuz you don't remember
when I met you it was it wasn't long
after it started really really but it
was definitely more from of an
intellectual of phase of knowing of
wanting to know the scriptures from you
know gnosis standpoint and know what you
believe and know why you believe it and
we were there too you know me I say we
me and Anthony went when we met you know
we giving ourselves over just to
studying and that's what like leads you
to have problems in church when you read
your Bible yeah like I tell I have
friends who were gung-ho they're
evangelists they're leading the loss and
I told him years ago I said bro if you
want to keep doing what you're doing a
minister but you gotta quit reading
their Bible you gotta quit reading you
quit gotta quit studying it if you keep
studying it you're gonna find out that
most of the sudden you're entertaining
and putting up with these people it's
not in there bro like this stuff that
they're founded on in the West it's not
a scriptural dude and it's a lot of it's
demonic
they will call what I would do like
talking about aliens call it demonic but
yet tricking people to give you money
and like telling them that God's gonna
curse them if they're not tithing that's
okay sure you know what I'm saying so
like the foundations of that in the
foundations of your faith man for me
just really quick when I got born again
it was at a home meeting at somebody's
house and I somebody asked me hey do you
want to ask do you want Jesus to forgive
you of your sins at a home meeting we
every wise worshipping it was totally
new to me I never been it's anything
like it they look very peaceful they had
their eyes closed hands lift it sing in
Christ some of them were crying and just
look really blissful I didn't understand
it
but so you want Jesus to forgive you of
your sin it's like yeah like I don't
want him not to forgive me
okay I know I don't want him to forgive
me i'ma take my sins wouldn't like I was
just vulnerable at the time I said yeah
I would love for him to forgive me I did
a lot of dirt at the age of 13 you know
I did a lot of bad stuff and uh in need
of guidance and so I said that prayer
you know I asked Jesus to come into my
life and to change me and made him Lord
of my life at that moment the Holy
Spirit came upon me I started to tremble
and cry and shake and my body started to
convulse I started to burn with like
this fervent hot heat that felt really
good felt you for it felt like a drug
but it went through and it cleansed out
yeah all the wrong that I had ever done
even the stuff I didn't know I was
carrying like baggage and weight it
burnt it all off yeah all consuming fire
the baptism of the Holy Spirit and Fire
and um and I was changed when I was 13
that happened to me and uh then we would
go and have prayer meeting we would go
to church and then we'd go have prayer
meetings back at the same place or
somebody else's house and it was like
that all the time I'm beckoning look you
got to come you got to come like all my
druggie friends look I got the perfect
drug his name's Jesus man like that that
was my foundation we would go to church
and we'd have a good time at church
worshipping the mute live music but we
couldn't wait to leave Church to go to
the home meetings for us to get in and
pray and lay hands on people and other
people who have never felt that power
and that love of God they whatever it
was something you can impart to people
lay hands on them and they received that
fire and that love beautiful that's my
foundations praying and early and doing
that and like throughout the week and
you know in church all the time and then
you find out that like like that's my
foundation and then we go to church to
try to recreate this encounter with the
Living God and we feel like we connected
to church and we go to church to
recreate it or to continue the journey
with that God or that power and we
learned Dogma we learned stuff that's
not in the Bible we learn religion we
learn Christian ease we learn so much
stuff and so essentially you put off one
vice or one thing that's killing you
whether you get set free from
drugs and alcohol or religion walk not
religion drugs and alcohol you put that
stuff now but you pick up religion you
become a Pharisee without even knowing
it you know what I'm saying is so that's
my foundation that's why that's always
been the plumb line that's always been
the bottom line faith in Jesus baptism
of the Holy Ghost change your life let's
do it every week even though I'm saying
let's do it and you go to places where
they don't like that they speak against
that and you're not the pastor you can't
pray for people and the pastor when you
do pray for people and stuff happens
there are certain people where you
separate yourself long enough you
receive fire from heaven and you can go
out and do miracles and walk like Jesus
walked right the pastors don't have that
no more they get jealous what God using
kinney you know and now everybody's
asking Kenny for prayer they're supposed
to be coming for me and it gets into a
lot of weird stuff that you're able to
see and and all of that's on top of your
foundation it's not like it's supposed
to be there or it's legit
it's Christianity as we know it or as
we've known it you like that but it's
not it's not Jesus you know all that's
on top of the foundation so that's why I
like I've never actually my eyes weren't
open and I was just a brand new believer
yeah whatever you told me I believed you
I mean I believe that the government had
my best interest in mind like whatever
you know it's naive like any child sure
I think Jesus didn't do the same thing
like Jesus went to the temple he was
dealing with the money changers and all
that stuff but one day he woke up he's
like man these people steal it from
y'all these people are taking your money
and demand and cheap sacrifice he
flipped the tables and whooped them and
beat everybody man and he was he grew up
with these people he's been around
people his whole life but it wasn't
something happened you're able to see
like man this is what the scriptures are
talking about maybe when you could
become more aware of the scriptures and
trying to line up stuff you know I think
it all comes from a place of innocence
of all the exploration even mine how
deep we go it comes from a place of
innocence of wanting to be more
christ-like and
to have what they had in the Bible you
know I think Jesus did that on that
particular day at that feast because it
was the biggest feast of the year I
think that he wasn't he wasn't in
Jerusalem all that often especially not
growing up and that was like at the
beginning of his ministry pretty much it
kind of marked the beginning of his
ministry and I don't know that it's the
first time that he's ever seen Jerusalem
but I know that he only did what God
told him to do when God told him to he
is God in the body and he knew exactly
when the perfect time to do that would
be and he had to do that because of he's
calling the whole foundations of their
religion wrong they're basing it on
money again they're doing everything at
the time there was a separate book that
was put above the Torah that was the law
of the Pharisees pretty much oh I can't
remember what it was called now he had
the sub-2 urgent and then there was uh
right now in the Koran it wasn't a Torah
but it was the tinactin otherwise Tanakh
and they put more authority in that
which contradicted the Bible a lot and
so he was he was he didn't come to make
peace but he didn't he didn't come to
make it all end right away either
there's still stuff you had to do but
that was a necessary action at the
perfect time I mean it was and so I
think that we're about to do for
something I really think we had think
we're coming got it
we had it I think we had it man at the
end of you know and I'll say it like
this because um you know coming up in
the charts there was all like this
persecutions coming to America we're
gonna be persecuted for being Christians
and you're not gonna be able to pray in
schools and you know all of this up in
there they were always on us on how we
believe it yeah it's I know but it's
here now like you know it a form of it
at the end like I didn't have nothing
against Obama and I try not to get into
politics because I understand the circus
of what it is and to make us fight and
choose sides that stuff that they script
just uh many people are actors man you
know absolutely but um but I did see the
stuff that they passed at the very end
of Obama's presidency it got really
weird man with the whole did what and I
was nothing against gays I had I had a
homosexual on the show the other day but
the whole you don't saying gay marriage
staying like they swept that in turn to
transgender the the bathroom issues yeah
and then it brought in its like a Trojan
horse at the very end Trump is a like
Trump in is is a cry from the
Republicans and the Conservatives I hate
we got to stop this like he brought all
that stuff in fast at the very end man
and it freaked everybody out you know
what I'm saying and I and there wasn't
some type of persecution you know I'm
saying going on for you to be
conservative or be against that you know
what I'm saying if you're against that
you're a bigot you're a racist or
whatever the case is you know so there
there is some persecution as far as
that's concerned from what we've seen
there's something going on but I think
now that trumps in office and things
have kind of calmed down for the
conservative side mmm I'm not liking
still say that people get mad when we
say
well I mean Christians are under attack
white they stay news that they want us
to see during there's there's things
happening all over the world that nobody
knows about and it's only what it's only
what they want you to see they only tell
you what they it it's like Hitler said
if you can write history you can change
the world or yeah change the youth and
make them believe but they don't even
care about us they're going after our
kids down yeah they're trying harder to
teach our kids what they want them to
know so that their country will be
changed a narrative right to make all
the changes happen that they want to
push are just killing the country
killing the spirit of America killing
rewriting history yeah it's it's really
history is that the at the hands of the
person telling it his story it's really
like it's two sides that I really like
the winners you're right people lost
they can't tell you like I can tell you
what happened to him yep and and we we
could just see that by looking back at
history and just looking at the things
that were right you know some things are
being fixed I think we look at slavery
and like yeah
how that was just like in the in the
media there's cartoons that promote
slavery and and bigotry and stuff that
were acceptable and torture and weird
stuff that was okay to the consciousness
of those people yeah they were okay with
it you spoke out against that you were a
heretic you know what I'm saying up
pretty much you know you can't you have
to go along with it so we're in weird
times I'll say that much is this people
someone says that this is the greatest
time to be alive it's very interesting
you know what's going on well maybe it's
a great time to be alive because we get
to see the Bible unfold before us it's
uh it's it's playing out man I don't
because I tried to get into politics and
stuff and reasoning and stuff and I try
to find common ground with all men
sure and uh and being offense to know
and it doesn't not over nothing that I
can't change sure or you know what I'm
saying I can't change that what I'm
gonna do about that I could just I can
you know I could be an example I can try
to respond with grace and peace towards
every situation but as far as like a lot
of that stuff nothing that you can't
change it but as far as what I'm here to
do
that's not my fight my fight is not to
debate you if Obama is really a
homosexual but conspiracy theories and
stuff you know and now I believe like
it's Barry's but then there's some other
things that shouldn't even be in the
same category because they're tabloid
news yeah they're cracking down on
conspiracies on YouTube now supposedly
now that it's out in the light but Dave
day like we're catering to conspiracies
because it keeps you on YouTube longer I
did a study that the conspiracy research
and all that stuff keeps people engaged
and some of the some things these people
are entertaining it's dangerous for one
I'm I'm for I'm not for conspiracy
theories like promoting of some of them
are dangerous and wicked for the most
part you know if somebody's children
that child dies and you're saying no
your child didn't die your child's an
actor and you're going on YouTube like
making videos and rants saying that
that's really offensive men you know and
I've I've had shows talking about that
but um but if you're right and you find
them to be actors then you're a hero
right but then again you still don't
change nothing like what are you
actually changing that you prove that
what are you doing they just change
anything hopefully if anything you open
their eyes open everybody eyes so the
next time they do it again you'll see
through it there's the only thing you
can even hope to do
I think that's happening it's happening
for me yeah not to be led down that road
you know understand cuz I know how evil
they are I know how wicked they can be
so there's nothing like bro did you know
that they did this and like you want to
do videos and research and stuff it's
like not they like it's like you know I
I don't know how many shootings happen
in America but I know that even if the
only ones they show on the news are the
ones that happen it seems to happen to a
lot of kids and it seems like they're
just trying to scare people in the news
to giving up their guns giving up your
protection given up your freedoms it
we're free people then we don't need so
many rules to tell us what to do you
know and I think that's a lot of what
Jesus came back for against the
Pharisees too they've just piling more
and more rules to see you can't even
live anymore that's the point where a
society just needs to collapse may so
they can start over and everybody can
kind of be on level ground again maybe
part of my passiveness it's not I'm not
passive but passiveness to like fight
them and overthrow them and change the
laws and vote and rally and protest
maybe the passiveness from that is kind
of like that I have it's from like Jesus
you know we have like Peter they're
ready to go to war they'd really like to
go to go fight and overthrow the Roman
Empire and and and they thought they had
a leader that could rally the people to
do that and and Jesus wasn't about that
like you know he could have he
definitely could this may have show up
to teach and 5,000 people show up you
know because you make a bigger
impression on one person one-on-one than
you do a million people from a podium
mm-hmm yeah he definitely understood
that man we talk about the government of
12 and I'm just dealing with he had his
12 disciples that he poured into and he
taught them and he sucked with them and
he ate with them and then he sent them
out to go get 12 more and to do the same
thing and teach them you can't tip you
can't pour into 10,000 people you can
pour into so it's hard to do 12 12 you
know that's a big number but to have a
huge group of people that you're
mentoring and pouring into it is hard so
when you have a tight-knit group of
people like the 12 they kept that kept
it at that number at whether that's how
many people you can commit to
or whatever it was special about that
number that just kind of goes to show
you that uh that he cared about
relationships and then they it worked
I'd be changed the world you know those
twelve went on and did their thing and
it just kept disciple in discipleship
makes disciples and you create disciples
who make disciples and go out and
fulfill the Great Commission and change
the world and we're here because of that
you know you know you can make a bigger
change in the world just sharing your
faith every day with strangers then any
politician could in his old career
getting the politician and the politics
is just like you said it's a device that
they use to divide us and we need to
come together as people individuals
living around each other come get to
know the people you know that you live
close to and affect their life and
change your surroundings do you want the
world to be better in the only world
that really matters to me not to be rude
or anything but the only world that
affects me is the world around me yeah
yeah that is your world I'm sure we I do
care what's happening in Israel I do
care what's happening in other parts of
the world but as far as whether or not
it personally affects me no it doesn't
you know and there's nothing I can do
about it so why worry about it I just
pray to God that he sent the right
people well then people will you know
people will come a lot coming on sale
there's stuff you could do about it you
know rally sign this petition show up at
the White House would it yeah you know
in the time that I'm spending doing that
I could be helping people exactly man
exactly yeah there was a story man and
I'm probably gonna butcher it I wish I
would learn this story but essentially
the story is of a young man who wanted
to change the world so he did everything
he could he lived his life he's trying
to change the world he couldn't change
the world so he's like you know what
imma change the country let me do what I
can to change the country he wasn't
successful at that let me just try to
you know change my state let me go to
the senators and protests and stuff and
change the state ba-ba-ba-ba-ba I
couldn't do that
there's many changes it tries to change
this city can't do it his family friends
couldn't do it so it's like you know
what let me just change myself and if
you would have started from the
beginning sit look let me just change
myself and then you changing yourself
working on working out your own
salvation with fear and trembling doing
a great commission each one teach one
change the world if you change yourself
then you be able to commune with people
in your day to day change the people who
you communicate with change your friends
lives your families lives they go oh
didn't go out you're able to change the
city then you able to reach a larger
audience change the senators and
congressmen mayors yeah state yes
country he changed the world you only
just saw that somebody you know person
Jesus said that right you know the quote
right what he said about changing who to
go to
like when he sent to Great Commission he
told me to go to certain people oh go to
anybody that allows your peace to rest
on their house that but he said go to
Jerusalem Judea Samaria had been the
ends of the world so he's like start
here then get a little bit broader it
bigger and then the ends of the world so
start here don't like and so many people
there like I mean I want to go to I want
to go to uh you know another country or
to change Israel go to Pakistan or
whatever the case is and help those
people and those are good things those
are good things but things we got a we
can't forget about these people here
right you know I'm saying are homeless
people are or people on drugs they're
teenagers that need somebody to talk to
like the practical stuff you know that's
we have we can't oh we can't overlook
where we are like this is the mission
field like go out I think it's most
you're going for us to get to know the
kids in our area because change the kids
and you change the future yeah
you guys do a lot with that you and your
wife Valerie if you want to talk about
what she does
I'm
um speak for a little bit try to I know
she works a lot with the yeah yeah have
a hard for kids and outreach they've put
on a lot of outreaches and stuff in the
community and feeding the homeless and
doing all kind of cool stuff over the
year so that's the ministry man the real
deal and like you said dealing with the
kids I'm gonna be religious about
anything yeah feed the home something
that works and take care of the orphans
and the orphans and widows or the
fatherless of the generation you know
I'm saying people who don't know uh you
know don't have dads you know like the
fatherless you know care about those
people and uh that's real religion and
they're not far tarried everywhere you
know mm-hmm everywhere so I so when you
got them into more of like Phyllis no I
was a philosophical but more of the like
book-smart end of your face okay did you
like and you've always been in church
but did you have was there like it like
a come to Jesus moment for you at any
moment like like I said everybody's
experience is different but mine was
quite just crazy you know I'm saying I
came to Jesus and fire and crying it's
not coming out my nose and you know had
it was totally spiritual you don't have
Sam but did you have an idea and I
thought I was supposed to go to Africa
and be a missionary like we were saying
you know people thank you God had other
plans and that's okay because you know
I'm supposed to do the work he wants me
to do anyway right so I did have a
moment like that I can't really pinpoint
it to any anything specific but it was
like an on fire Church well
me and my wife we had gotten married and
and I was studying the Bible more and
drinking less I still hadn't quit all
the way but one New Year's Eve we went
to a church or not need Newsday yeah I
went to a church that that Sunday I
think it actually was on a Sunday and we
just decided that you know we we wanted
to reconnect a little bit again with
with other Christians and see if we
could find some friends that were you
know our age or whatever they had
similar beliefs is us cuz there's not a
whole lot of them they sometimes are in
the church sometimes you need you know I
know we reach out to the to the druggies
in the homeless people but somehow you
just need somebody who's comedy and even
if they're not cool just because they're
safe
and you can learn something from I've
been there but it was a beautiful church
I was right on the beach in Orange Beach
and we figured you know even if we don't
like what they had to say because we
didn't hurt so many times or whatever
even if we don't like what that to say
we can at least look out at the ocean
while they're talking and and you know
but it was it was a powerful message in
it it brought me to tears just the the
word said that preacher said that day I
can't even remember what they are now
but you know it at that moment I was
right I recommitted myself to to live in
for God I'd already been baptized but I
got baptized again which I don't think
that's some people say you know you know
I have to whatever you can get baptized
as many times as you want to this is
getting dunked in water yeah you don't
need to you don't even need to do it
once but it's a mikvah in the Old
Testament it's like a cleansing yeah
tamil repentance refreshing Kabbalah
there was this couple there
um that was our age and they were
studying they actually had similar
backgrounds as us a lot of ungodly
behavior for a long time and anyway he
had he can see things sometimes liking
see I guess auras kind of limit or I
don't know how to describe it because I
can't see it yeah but he said that
whatever we've got baptized because we
got baptized together before there was
like a dark aura around us and then when
we we came up we were just shining
bright white again and I definitely felt
that way so mm-hmm
you know ya couldn't argue with him but
we studied with them a lot while we were
still living down on the beach and we're
charts would y'all gon do well and room
our Beach Baptist Church I practiced
reformer gaff I've been a member of
Baptist Church Church of Christ
Methodist Church I mean I've been a
member of a lot of different kinds
I don't think denomination really
matters and I don't think there should
be denominations it should just be
people in your area they want to study
the Bible in your area as a key word for
me yeah there's a lot of good churches
across the bay and Daphne
sure you know what I'm saying and West
mobile I don't live out there like I
don't just know our community right you
got a drive with the people there's
people who drive for 45 minutes to go to
church because they like the music
people that they're not gonna see the
rest of it we have no idea who these
people are we know accountability and
there's absolutely nothing that a church
is supposed to church family is supposed
to be for you but if you're too far away
you just can't really be a thing
mm-hmm so now I mean we're we're members
of the Chickasaw of the United Methodist
Church and they're great a bunch of
people I don't believe everything that
they believe in but they're good people
and they have a good heart for the
community and that's more than I can say
for a lot of other churches that I have
been to mm-hmm
so the rest of it doesn't even matter
because what's their foundation Jesus
was the son of God he was sent here to
dine with us for our sins no they don't
get everything right but they got the
foundation right yes so I mean you can't
be too hard on them because they're
people - mm-hmm well we've kept the
majority of the show just about the
foundation in Christ and your foundation
firm foundation we do like to I don't
like to talk about conspiracies that you
know I'm talking about conspiracies but
while I have you here I know you're you
love to study and read and you called in
during the Santos Bonacci show as well
when I had Santos on here talking about
flat earth let's talk about the
foundations of the earth man this kind
of gets you going for a minute you're
really big in the flat earth right now
right well I wouldn't say I'm really big
into it I've watched a lot of videos
he's really big in the flat earth and I
guys okay what have you found out going
back to to college one of the last
classes that I took and I didn't
actually even finish it I dropped out in
the middle of it was physics it was
physics too and it was a calculus based
physics I'm pretty good at math so I did
all the hard math classes that I could
and we got to talking about Einstein and
the theory of relativity and everything
and I had a hard time after figuring out
what it really was that was being said
but he
there they're teaching you all of these
math equations right and telling you
this is how everything works well the
theory of relativity says that you can
make a math equation for anything you
want to so if you're smart enough to
make a math equation to tell what
something's doing doesn't mean that it's
really doing it for the reason that you
are saying it I might be it came up in
the class the Stars whether or not
they're spinning pretty much yeah
because you know if it is spinning
there's a lot of physics going on there
yeah
mathematically speaking both sets of
equations work okay you can all that
ancient devices like the anti cut their
mechanism or whatever agent cogging and
little mechanical devices that can tell
you where the stars are in the sky
mm-hmm that they were building direction
Greece before any kind of electricity or
any kind of anything like that
our based on Flat Earth math for the
stars going around in a circle yeah
and they work and they still work today
yeah that's all you can get those grid
those star maps and spin them right
these month and I'll show you what stars
you bear to see it and I'm not sure what
Google uses but you could probably go on
google or whatever the the night sky
yeah yeah and you can fast forward and
go back in time and everything's gonna
line up yeah and just and it was done on
Flat Earth like how do you know where'd
you get that from like the Flat Earth
well back when they were being made
everybody thought the earth was flat and
everybody thought that the Stars
revolved around so then they made clocks
basically that have the position no
decimal that's the thing for me is that
ain't and I'm not the ancients believed
it you don't sound like they they
totally like
maps and all the the lore everything was
better go today you'll fall off the
earth the edge of the earth and things
like that not that it was a globe while
just kick this but yeah that's one thing
for me it's like the ancient books and
the ancients believed it you know for
some reason within me like I've always
thought it was legit like you guys I
never bought it even as a kid like it
was flat like but uh well it's funny to
me but this the Stars is the big one
yeah if we're spinning that fast but the
stars are in the stars are making
perfect circles yeah yep
stars making perfect circles every night
right right around the North Star they'd
never move and I spent plenty of time
staring at the Stars yelling it God
through the Stars or however that worked
out and you know I used to have a lot of
sleepless nights staring up at the stars
and I just couldn't bring myself to
believe in my being that the earth was
spinning in the Stars we're stationary
okay so what is what is the deception
why why make the change is it because we
could read the Stars and get on God's
calendar that it would take take us away
from nature and away from the way that
we our bodies work align with the
celestial spheres and to get us off of
that like most people even care about
that stuff anymore how do you think that
I have something to do what they don't
care about that stuff anymore
yeah maybe they lived about it - because
I am a day they're not used to living by
it anymore
yeah even it wasn't even so long ago
that people still planning by the moon
and you know really followed ya know it
was I could yeah if it works exactly
okay that's how they were told to do it
from the beginning Hebrews in the Bible
they was told he's not good to keep the
saddles with the rest rest on the
harvest they were told everything and
sure that's totally lost what I was
gonna say so so why did why did they
change it why I mean what does it
benefit okay but tell us away from
studying I mean I still study you have
to think of it from perspective of who
would want to lie to us mm-hm and the
powershots me well I mean the powers
that be in the earth spiritually
speaking is Satan this is his domain
the devil is has been given free reign
and he puts little thoughts in people's
heads here and there and they come up
with these ideas that they think are
just brilliant but it's really an
implant and one little lie here and one
little lie here it's just the right
person is gonna say it over and over
until it becomes truth and you changed
the whole dichotomy of everything you
change you change everything yeah
the if they're okay if the Earth's flat
versus if it's a globe that's just
spinning in space right going just
happen from nothing from a big bang and
a big explosion and everything just
happened to magically come together
versus a flat earth with a dome on top
of it that's obviously a creation that
would that is a big enough reason for
you know that's doubt that's what that's
what he does if there's doubt in there
oh it's not a creation it's just a big
ball in the middle of space that just
happened mm-hmm
I mean that that would be one reason
from the very beginning and then since
now the earth is just a big ball that's
floating in space that magically
appeared well now all the life on it
magically appeared too so we evolved
from bacteria on Scott fais
and I've never been able to believe that
either I'm like everybody else maybe it
comes to like evolution is like why
aren't monkeys still evolving right hey
well I want to see a monkey so millions
of you ventually one of the monkeys huh
turn it up speaking of millions of years
don't give them guns either those
monkeys there you know it occurred to me
not too long ago that because I I do
watch a lot of a variety of different
things not all flatter it's all you are
a part wouldn't you call it on acts of
science
the early Earth or would a young earth
err yeah they call I guess yeah
somewhere around six dogs I don't know
exactly how long a day was during
creation but I do know that the sign was
deer head until the third day that's my
- how many days a day is like a thousand
years right but that the sign wasn't
made until there were plants on the
earth already so there was already day
before there was assignment what about
the scripture that talks about the earth
being destroyed at one point and was
they replenished do you know that I
there's a couple of them I think people
are trying to read too much into it and
sound smart sell a book to be quite
honest because yeah in Genesis 1 it
there's because we put a period in our
Bible yeah there's no yeah you know
there there wasn't any punctuation so we
don't know where this stops in speech
would have really even been but just
because the Bible says in the beginning
God created the earth and he heard the
heavens in there
and his spirit was hovering over the
waters of the deep well if God's calling
it the deep is it gonna be a little ball
of water it doesn't sound like it would
be to me God's definition of deep is
probably a lot bigger than we can even
comprehend but that's as I pointed guess
um but people take those two sentences
and they say that oh well in the
beginning he created the heavens of the
earth and since the next sentence says
now is there the shape the earth was
shapeless and without form and the
Spirit hovered over the water that the
face of the deep
if people put too much of a heartbreak
in between those two I think they're
they're thinking too much about it and
not just listening to what God's saying
if they make sense because I think that
does happen yeah especially if even if a
lot of that stuff is allegory or you
don't say metaphors you know what I'm
saying Adam and Eve I mean I even
there's their scriptures you to read in
Genesis 5 that says it says he made he
made man and called them Adam
he says he made man and female and named
them Adam as a people like this Adamic
race and maybe like this gets into a lot
of stuff and I study from many
perspectives of like oh the earth is
here he took he made the garden and
maybe that's his dome this is the the
garden and and I'm a make up people for
myself and there's already people groups
out there who created him where they
came from no idea about all that but he
made a people for his namesake there
and then they'll end up leaving the
garden going out and it was already
other people you know they ran into
other nations and they lived if I heard
something it's really the thing for me
that that bomb me wasn't a documentary
or listening to anybody else was just my
personal study that one scripture really
at the end of the the verse where it
says he made man and female and he made
them male and female and called them
Adam I say damn that's the Adamic race
he made them and he called Adam Adam but
not just as one man you know two to that
point the Hebrew word for man or mankind
is animal mm-hmm so to me that would
just say that he called humans human he
named the human race your buddy Adam
named Eve he called her evil the guy
called a golem go back we're speculating
on anything is though the thing is and
this is what gets me and I kind of pull
my cards out of it I don't think anybody
knows yeah yeah so to fight you or kitty
get out of my house
right you all get with me over there you
know some people like there's people who
do that though cuz they know they were
there you see the Bible says this this
is only what it says man there's so many
ways you wouldn't know that unless you
were a Berean unless you were given over
to study in those scriptures and say
look man there's a lot more ways to
looking at this in a couple of them
makes sense yeah a couple of them makes
sense yeah you know and that's the truth
God's honest truth I don't I don't think
anybody's right they may have a piece of
a piece of it maybe right she is that
and this dad and this other guy his
history's a little bit right on this
part I believe that a lot of I believe
it look everybody holds a piece of it
that's why that's why I have people on
the show like Jordan Maxwell
sure it's a Jordan Maxwell on certain
things Jordan Maxwell is good on even in
the Bible like Jordan Maxwell can break
that Bible down in a way that you're not
gonna hear it Sunday morning
you know what I'm saying the in in not
that he's right on everything but it's
good to approach it from different
schools of thought because you're not
gonna hear it right like I'm telling you
like what some people I don't even fool
with these people anymore but the black
Hebrew Israelites man they taught me how
to study the scriptures they taught me
how to break the Bible down and improve
it with chapter verses context the
Christian Church taught me to take one
scripture out of contact and say while I
was a sinner Christ died for me like
that's good I love it that's great we
just cut it too close the book that's
what they taught me and then that's
still part of it but they taught me
they're like when take chapters and
chunks and then room and then point it
back to where it came from and then you
find out nothing in the New Testament
was new they they're just repeating the
prophets like everything Paul said I
know we know the quotes because they're
in italics sure but even more like
conversation he just relayed this like
regurgitating the Old Testament in the
prophets Jesus and Paul and and it's
really interesting to be able to break
the Bible down but you get it you have
you do have a one-up on on regular
people because they have no idea they
just they're told this is what it is
they believe it they run with it
to fight you on it and so then you have
to learn grace because you have the
knowledge and have to be trained to hold
your tongue and not fight them and not
get mad because they act like a
know-it-all it's a small path and I'm
not you know I'm not gonna kick anybody
off of it but there's a lot of people
that think they're on it then aren't on
it and even Jesus said that so I mean
you know what this is the humility that
to admit that you don't know and it's
big for me it's not easy to say you
don't know it's people who are looking
for you to come to you and they hope
that you know and there's people who
elicits all true so you don't know that
let me go find somebody else who does
that's some of that person's probably
gone like be they want answers and so we
do you run into pastors or leaders or
what whoever on YouTube or whatnot who
claim to have it up and if they don't
know it they'll make it up we could just
simply
present what we know the things we know
without the shadow of a doubt for us
anyway would that work for us and you
share those experiences that nobody else
has
yep and nobody can take that away from
you you know and you're talking about
your reality I'm worried about my
reality yeah like to some people like
they're doing wickedness and wrong stuff
blatantly in the Bible but it's okay to
them like in their mind they don't know
any better
we look at like if we want to look at
like polygamy and the Mormons and stuff
like that like and having there's a lot
of people marry other wives yeah Matt
Cimmerian I know exactly right not for
me but yeah so then it comes to that or
who's right well according to a culture
as long as we can agree on Jesus is the
Son of God and he was sent here to die
for our sins
you know that's the that's the thing
where I lose a lot of people because
they say keep it simple brother keep it
about Jesus and I do it's the foundation
it is that's not the case because if we
mention any other thing we mentioned
baptism we mentioned tithing that's
gonna split it see differently you know
what I'm saying so it is about Jesus so
so it's okay to build on top of your
foundation and to study and to look and
to search and if anybody tells you not
to run run yeah you know they should be
encouraging everything like to they're
scared they're gonna leave them though
they can get knowledge of a holy man
scriptures you're telling me they're not
in the Bible bro like the Bob would
didn't mean that man and you you know
it's that's happened I like to think of
it as like I'm building my own house
that is my faith right and I can build
it any way I want to and I can use
whatever materials I want to use
as long as I have the right foundation
but you know when you're building the
house you're gonna look at the bricks
you're not gonna use one that's cracked
mm-hmm you're not gonna use one that's
too heavy because yeah there's something
wrong with it you're not gonna use one
that's too light but if you didn't pick
that breakup you wouldn't know mm-hmm
you know what I mean so you there's all
you gotta swear these things that people
are teaching you and you have to relate
it back to the Bible I mean you have to
keep you have to keep your rich in the
Bible and so you don't get lost down any
a million different legs that can go
yeah
even biblical teachers can lead you the
wrong way if you start following them
instead of the Bible that they're
preaching out of yeah but you gotta you
gotta take what they say and you know
examine each brick individually and the
ones that are fit to put in your house
you put them in your faith peps and the
ones that aren't well then go with the
rest of the scrap throw them away it's
just gotta be that simple you can't get
hung up on it because then it'll just
drag you down trying to fix the brick
that's broken yep there's people you
know I try to see what works you know
maybe I cheated a lot in school with the
answers they all live it I'm looking at
other people see what they got how is
the smart people I know the smart people
drop your pencil hey I just and so I
like to look at other people and see if
it's working for them like if it's
working and if you're not working don't
come to me and try to tell me how to
live my life or what to believe in it's
in your life as a wreck that's what
fruit comes in yeah and you have to
judge by the fruit everybody's a tree
you got to judge the fruit and that's
that it works mm-hmm but you gotta be
careful not to judge the man judge the
fruit we need the fruit of his labor
that's it
definitely you're gonna partake of their
fruit eventually you hang around
somebody long enough and uh just because
they come with the Bible
you know some of these people who have
no idea who Jesus is by that name they
have more integrity and more fruit than
a lot of these people in these churches
man and I can't I can't
I'd be lying to speak otherwise you know
to act like they don't in people like
people try to argue me on that that's
not real fruit bro that's false fruit
like now I enjoy it it's an apple man
I enjoy you know you got a question I
want to let everybody know that the UH
chat the phone lines are open if you
guys want to call in ask Kenny a
question or asking me a question Kenny's
wife was in the chat right now mom there
was a big thing and I was a part of it I
would you know I did this I went and
burned everything that wasn't of God
anything that didn't have Jesus on it
and then I got to a place where I burned
even stuff they had pictures of Jesus on
it yeah this is an idol he doesn't look
like this
you know I'm burning it and so you guys
had a cleansing most people have had
went through this at some point but she
wants me to ask you about this cleansing
that you to reestablish the foundation
well I mean we we did we went through
it's funny when you I get to that I
guess we did we we went through our
house and we burned a set of tarot cards
that had never been opened because they
were a gift to my wife from her sister
and she didn't want to over him because
she didn't want him so I mean I wasn't
really a big loss we never opened them
but we got rid of that and we got rid of
a a chess set that was made out of
Dragons I kind of you know maybe I
shouldn't have done that one cuz I like
playing chess and I kind of miss it but
you know I did learn from that you know
you learn from everything if you're not
learning then you're not trying but some
things are good to get rid of some
things okay
we were under some pretty heavy
spiritual attack I had I'm remembering
now because she's reminding me yeah
there was one occasion where well the
house that we were living in it
there was other beings there I mean I
don't know how else to put that it was
no probably doings I think they're
different yeah I'm the seen spirits not
not aliens unseen unclean spirits but we
we did have to cleanse the house and
there was a few times that I had to call
on Jesus him and I do believe that they
left and you know maybe they were coming
in some doorways that we had opened or
whatever you know and we had left
unchecked but I mean there was crazy
stuff happen stuff flying off the top of
the fridge my cat flying through the
doorway right in front of me for real I
think she was pregnant I'm right through
that kind of here yeah we still have one
of her babies but yeah that was weird me
and Anthony talked about that
I'm not Anthony me and uh I don't think
all about that one Anthony what me and
uh me and Dano talked about that and uh
cuz we've been through it many times and
even looking around somebody says it
came in to chat awhile ago and said she
was thinking you got a cool room your
room looks cool I got a lot of gaming
posters I've got a deck of cards I've
got some you know sacred geometry
pendants and pyramids and all kind of
low just cool stuff
I think it's cool but there were times
come where I would like when we have you
said you guys were under spiritual
attack when you're under a spiritual
attack you get to a place you're like I
need to get everything out of my life
but Jesus so you start looking around
like there would be times where maybe
even for those watching on camera this
scoff as Monster High Monster teen dolls
for kids with monsters Frankenstein
vampires Dracula
you know I know people who would they
couldn't they wouldn't drink out of this
they couldn't drink
they couldn't ring out of this you know
I've been there I've been there and you
start and it's not that that cup has any
power or those cards we talked about
that last weekend those tarot cards have
any power to Christian tarot cards by
the way have any power but you start
searching your life and like I'm under
such attack or I want more of God in a
symbolic God I want you more than this
couple want you more than these video
games and these posters and you start
getting rid of everything you know I
remember my earrings these plugs I took
the earrings out none of this I just
want Jesus you know throwing everything
away and I'm not the only one many
people have been down that path or
you're searching your heart and you're
looking for stuff that doesn't glorify
God because you want to get closer to
God and that stuff in your life it's
powerful because it's symbolic and it
represents something not that it has any
power to begin with but maybe if there's
witchcraft books or certain things and
you're not trying to entertain any of
that stuff in what you what you relate
those thoughts and what they mean to you
you're getting rid of it I mean I
there's times I've gotten rid of my
manly pee haul but I got that first
edition sign books and we talked about
that too and I've burnt them I've gotten
rid of them all kind of stuff I've lost
a lot and I'm not the only one other
people have done it we need to talk
about this openly and some of these
things is snatch it's natural to feel
that way it's not natural
regular people don't do that there's
people who gods working on your heart
man
right it's just a sanctification inner
working regular that sounds and crazy I
think it's sometimes it is a good thing
to to do that it happens a lot sometimes
the Corinthians that took all of their
yeah well you come out the books mm-hmm
holiday relaxed night eggs 1918
yeah that was my Scripture yeah yeah
it's not a bad thing to do but you know
you also have to think about that was
their religion they based their beliefs
on the tarot cards and the the
witchcraft and magic and the things that
they were doing yeah if you base your
beliefs on it you probably do need to
burn it all yeah that's not the right I
guess use of that
I'll give it huge that's not the right
foundation to build your faith yeah
that's not the foundation right I think
I get accused of that that I don't
follow the Holy Spirit that I follow
magic that I follow Manley P Hall and
these people who are who I do admire for
different reasons and I appreciate I get
accused of being a witch and you know
I've led those rampages where we burned
the books and I've burnt my books on
many and many and many occasions and so
I should have something to say at this
point about burning books I've done it
and now I have books in there fine I'll
leave them you know I read them from
time to time they got some good stuff in
them but it's about having a foundation
for one and two my excuse to have that
stuff to look in those books most a lot
of those books have knowledge and
information that Jesus and the disciples
already had that they knew that we don't
have today you know what I'm saying of
whether we're talking about the
testament of Solomon that's that's
considered a magical writing that's
considered about the church around
something you shouldn't look into but
Solomon that's referenced through the
scriptures the Book of Enoch that same
way brother don't read that that book is
gonna cause confusion open up the same
thing like this was normal for them they
had this stuff we don't write we don't
have it no more they taking all kind of
stuff out the Bible and told you this
stuff's dead and it don't matter it
doesn't matter and all kind of stuff man
but there's at least three that are
referenced in the Bible there's a dude I
got this like so many with the book of
Jasher in the book of
Juve someone mentioned the book of
Shammai and a prophet the book of e do
the Prophet who are they right I want to
read that book me too
I want to read it you can't design a lot
of these books but some of them you
still can and then some of them is
debatable if it's the they're legit but
the same could be said a lot of times
with the Bible they thought about taking
other books out they almost took Jude
out they almost took James out Jude
because of reference the book they took
out right Jude references you know so
they almost took it out because they you
know it was sitting at yourself wine
it's a book Enoch out because it's
totally a flattering book and it shows
you who that war talks about angels
openly it shows you who they're
worshipping might be elite universal
religions yeah it shows you who they're
worshipping those fallen angels man
absolutely and that's why they took that
stuff out but um I'm curious about that
I want to know what they had I don't
want nothing more I don't know mother
nothing more than Jesus or nothing more
than Peter or Paul right I want what God
has for me but let's just those were
some deep individuals those dudes were
deep like they knew a lot of stuff they
their practice was legit and if we can
go back to in and know what they knew
I'm cool with that I don't want nothing
now I don't know nothing else but I feel
like reading some of the manly P howl or
listening to Jordan Maxwell the way he
approaches it they show you things that
we're not shown in Sunday Sunday school
yeah even some Christians man I've been
dude there's some crazy stuff in the
Bible that I've never heard people talk
about you know because you you don't
have a frame of reference you know the
first thing that stood at it to me about
because I was into aliens I was watching
the ancient aliens at the same time well
I mean one good thing about that show
it's that's how I even found out
no wait there's this book that used to
be in the Bible talks about angels well
let me go and find it and read it but
you know there anytime that has talked
about how angels come down to earth the
people that they come down to either are
physically affected or absolutely as
soon as they see them know who what they
are right
so how human-like could they really be
even the the ones that came to Sodom and
Gomorrha to get a lot out of the town
well they look like men
good day cuz the whole town knew what
they were well they wanted to make love
the homosexuals wanted to have their way
with some kid yeah to gain the power
over no sex would have this well maybe
maybe that's all maybe I made you
foreign to him that's all it is is for
every new person that came to town in
prison I say it takes a nice power yeah
you take they probably take their
manhood from him you know I'm saying and
then these new guys came to town they
were wanting to rape them yeah you know
and there were angels and lot knew that
look if you guys take these angels
receive we're done even lot knew before
they knew who they were before they came
up to him he recognized them from afar
yeah as being what they were yeah
messengers from God angels not mere men
you know nobody said that's the
impression that I got yeah that part oh
yeah and then the other any other time
that angels are talked about usually
it's either some weird wheel inside a
wheel with like taste and identity
you'll never be able to comprehend if
you don't actually see it for yourself
pretty much I know it's good Steve yeah
if you don't someone you want to see
just singing it yeah yeah
is there from the fiery chariots you
know what I'm saying alright Chariots of
Fire right I'll look but to see this and
you know it but who's to tell me not to
though you know I'm saying I who's to
say don't do it bro you don't need to
know about that well I mean knowing
about it is I encourage exploration man
you wouldn't I mean you need know what
you know about you can allow you to help
somebody else that it's helped me all
the all the documentaries on the third
eye and how to train your mind and I'll
do in prayer it's helped me I've seen
manifestation by believing it willing it
and knowing it and there's teachings
that me in many cases aren't even
Christian hmm teach you how to mind
works in the power of the mind and the
conscious thought dislike the scientific
proof proof of our faith coming from
people who don't even believe it they're
explaining what you believe from a
scientific standpoint
yeah and it's Kyle of it and I think
that's why I bring it back to the
scripture all the time right well you
know the scripture says right here
ba-ba-ba-ba-ba these principalities in
spirits you're talking about these
entities you see over cities what ababil
talks about principalities they're over
regions yeah and they have this person
I'm talking to has no idea what the hell
I'm talking about they've never read the
Bible you know but they're saying stuff
that's written for thousands of years
you know I love that stuff yeah and it's
you know I've been watching a lot of
things about aliens and stuff recently
and I guess there's however many
different different races that people
think that there are of them and
reptilians and nor to lose people in
whatever blue avians yeah God so you
know from the Muppet Babies
looking at things from a flat earth
perspective yeah
how silly to think that there's beings
that came all the way from those little
teeny tiny lights that are in the sky
you know what I mean
there's not another planet if if there's
not another planet out there for them to
be from the way what else could they be
but what the Bible says they are no I
mean and that being said just because
they said well we came from that star
system up there we we also know that
Angels have fallen first of all so it's
possible that that's a phone in angel
angels were charged with as specific
angels were charged with each star and
to follow him so who's to say that he's
not lying that's that was his station
that he left was to come to earth yeah
and then any Nephilim that come from
that one that end up being they're
called Pelagians well they did come from
there too because the angel that fell
that started them came from there you
know what I mean so there is a biblical
way to look at all of it if you take the
time to study the scripture but I've
studied it from both standpoint when I
started in ufology was from a Christian
standpoint I only listened to the
Christian guys then Marzulli and I would
I'm alone there's so many names that
hours and hours and hours probably in
almost six months of it listening to
only the Christian guys and I was like
you know let me listen to some of these
other people who they've been mentioning
they're people on the other side and
start listening to them and say wow I
feel like these guys approached it from
a non-biased standpoint the Christians
have a biased there's a war going on and
there's demons that are trying to kidnap
them and stuff like that like what if
there's more to it
so just listening way more than maybe
you got spirits you got got a neutral
spirit I wouldn't call I wouldn't call
aliens demonic at all personally because
if they're physical they're not a demon
first of all what's a demon why it wants
to get in your body right take your
wife's call and ask you might need we do
have a we're gonna jump to the phone
lines here real quick we only got a few
minutes left we've been going kind of
for a while but I'm gonna jump to this
first call here there got
all coming in from says northeast New
York Carlo who was speaking with hey
there you guys can you hear me yeah
what's up what's up this is Ray man it's
my first time calling in I was just like
man it's just too cool I got a I got a
call in and say hi what's up guys I'm
not your wife man this is the next
caller down maybe maybe not could be
somebody else yeah my welcome well what
it just like thanks man thanks I just
want to backtrack a little bit Kenny to
what you were saying about building a
house out of faith I was into a Slava
door and I met this pastor from what
Amala there he gave us his testimony and
he heard God told him one day hey you
need if you're gonna build a church and
this guy is like the poorest guy in open
like super poor right like has no money
but he's like convinced like I got a
goalless church but he's kind of afraid
like okay I'm just gonna save some money
in the mean time and I'll build a church
whatever his wife is like no God told
you to build a church go to the go to
the the hope not the Home Depot but like
the the hardware store and just see what
happens God told you that's gonna do
something and the guys like well right
I'll go he goes goes to the hardware
store ends up the hardware store is
owned by one of his best friends from
high school has the seen the guy in
forever
tells him what it's planned and is the
guy is like you know what let me donate
everything I'll be happy to build this
church for you outside of faith right
yeah that's the best way to build it
yeah I mean sometimes listen to our
wives is like the right thing to do
right reason right so yeah and going
back to you what you guys are saying
about the your house and having all that
all those things my cousin's um they did
a what's it called with the table the
Ouija board and for years afterwards it
was just non-stop like for years and
they did they even think like my uncles
and my aunt going on in like this my
family didn't think too much like oh no
it's whatever it's just it's just it's
just
but then they started noticing that
people were changing and personalities
were changing and and health was was
losing and like health is falling in all
these bad things were happening I
remember sleeping over a couple of times
and being the like scared to go to sleep
just scared like my other cousin say
would it be the same way I was always
wondering why this was until I got old
enough from that parents told me that
they actually had to exercise that house
or however you say it and they pretty
much to actually have to leave the house
completely because the spirit in there
was just there was just taken over it
was it was ridiculous I mean it's not a
joke it's no game it definitely isn't a
joke yeah that that's one beer I'm not
never messed with was a Ouija board
my friend kept trying to get me to when
I was a kid but I just never did and I
would I would personally advise anybody
that if you're gonna ask for answers
from a piece of wood expect responses
not from a good place exactly the way I
see it it's just I mean there's so much
to substant that in the dark entities I
mean how can you expect a correct answer
how can you expect something good to
come out of that I mean it's just a
substitute on top of deception right you
have to test whatever you you get
against the Bible there has to be a
plumb line and it has to be God and you
have to take it back to him oh
absolutely the truth from absolutely get
some truth from a whole lot of evil
people but if it doesn't and it'll test
up against the Word of God but you can
go to a holy man and hear him tell you
something that's totally against the
Bible it's really crazy it's so true I
was actually listening to something like
pastor who just kept contradicting
themselves and all this kind of stuff
and you know the way I see it is it's
it's the Holy Spirit I mean I can go out
and like I research a lot like I listen
I listen to to Sica Allah you know I've
become a fan recently and I love
listening to people like I go to the
higher side chest and I listen to
they gotta say because I feel like I
have to draw this information in but at
the same time I'm also asking the Holy
Spirit yeah is this valid is the truth
is it does this have weight you got a
fine and honestly like I get it yeah and
I get I get answers in like it's it's
got it's become very interesting like
for example one thing that I like blew
my mind was the electric universe theory
and how it's not necessarily like we've
got like like the whole theory of
relativity and like quantum is just like
just like it's just not even got real
like it but if you look at things from
the electric universe perspective it's
like a lot of things that we were
confused about start to make sense and
not only considering the fact that we're
all made up of these electromagnetic
bonds and I just think that I feel like
by examining the like some of the
miracles that God did in the Bible
through the electric universe
perspective I think that a lot of this
like those things makes sense like I
think it was Peter who was teleported to
the Ethiopian I'll just in the middle of
the road I mean that's teleportation of
the Bible right there I mean how is that
not like high-level science you know
that's the highest level of science that
we could possibly imagine is literally
within God's grasp and so it's fun
that's kind of went on a tangent there
ya know it's funny that you relate that
back to that I like to go to like light
body meditation and there's meditation
that where you can go so deep lining
your chakras meditating right and they
you can turn your body into light and
travel like you can travel like a star
you know and there's certain Yogi's and
the legends and stuff that were said to
do it and it comes from Egypt as well
like it was in Egypt and uh the you know
I'm seeing wheels of light breath and
testing you have breath meditation I
think yeah bro I think these do spend
hours in Malabo
Nate you're not saying when they did
when they prayed stuff happened when
they laid hands on people they knew what
to do they knew what sickness was they
knew the power I mean even water let's
look at water the whole did the whole
doctor there's a hold the theory about
water our bodies are made up of what is
it nine eighty percent some water and
yes absolutely it's alive its waters
living it's moving and uh and in water
holds frequencies and thoughts and
memory and there's the whole
documentaries on this stuff in it the
music affects water the shapes that make
the music so important this water and
sound against Saudi man I did the dr.
Emoto rice experiment and it's in the
water document oh it worked
I mean I meet me it does I mean this
okay so I did that a little bit
differently but with a tree so hear me
out so I was living in Florida and I
noticed that the tree right in front of
my apartment complex was like newly
green fresh the greenness is like right
after the winter don't like the tree
like this these trees here like lots of
leaves so this tree just was newly green
it's the spring is barely barely
starting and everything else is dead and
one of my buddies mentions it like hey
may I look at your look like it's look
at your place like you're right in front
of your place is where this tree is
alive and I'm thinking to myself that's
because there's so much love in my house
and that's because like my wife and I
are working hard to create this
beautiful relationship and I think that
that's literally radiating out and I I
really do believe that so I I decided
you know what let's see if that dr.
Emoto is true I went up to the tree
across the street and I said Aaron since
we can see the street from the hop from
Department every time you see it pray
for it every time you walk by it tell it
you love it every time you get close to
it touch it and pray and say I love you
so we did it two days later that thing
was fully green new leaves everywhere
everything else on the street dead still
yeah I mean my friend is not a believer
he saw that he was like what that
actually just happened man yeah I mean
when you see in the scriptures when he
prayed when Jesus prayed for the blind
man and he started he got a little
vision back and the first thing he said
I see men as trees you know Jesus root
I'm gonna Jesus and talking about the
light
I think I think one of my favorite
things about Jesus is the fact that a
man literally went super saiyan in front
of the apostles like he literally
started radiating light never go for a
powerful light but I like he became
powerful showed them like a tiny piece
of his glory stop and then said this is
not how I'm going to save you guys and
then gave himself up I think that's that
to me is the epitome of love is to show
that you have the power but to do
something that is just sacrificing your
stuff instead of becoming the powerful
one is I think that's not like the
ultimate love I didn't you know I'm
saying hey you know what you know what's
deep about that for me like that was the
first time that he brought them up to
where he would go to pray and meditate
and spend time with God he brought or
was it three of them I think I know
James yeah yeah Peter and John and James
and Peter he brought him up there to the
Mount of figuration he went there a lot
he went into caves and copper caves who
does that
Christians know they do that overnight
and they go on top of a mountain to pray
or they'll go into a pray they'll go
into a mountain I think he did that
every every time he wouldn't pray bro I
think when he went away to pray that he
was communing with Moses and Elijah and
those who went before I think they were
teaching him instructing him and oh man
I read that I read that and I was like
you know what you say what's happening
in his meditation then I was watching
Star Wars force ghost yeah I did early
in the Star Wars bro like I'm open was
being led by Yoda into the Sun sunset is
like where we go and he said look follow
me and and and while I'm watching this
qui-gon jinn is my favorite qui-gon jinn
represented Jesus to me he said look I'm
gonna teach you how to commune with your
master who has gone on before you he
said qui-gon I put that in one of my
songs at the end of one of my songs and
I like what if Jesus brought when he was
meditating and praying and four hours
not for ten minutes four hours
watching and praying fasting and praying
angels definitely showed up I think that
he was communing with them sure you know
we can do it that's just the only time
we was able to see like the cameraman
followed him up to the mountain you know
what I'm saying I believe it man yeah
yeah absolutely
I enjoyed what you guys are doing here
so much because me what you guys are
talking about is it's important to
listen to you know like with so much
there's so much false information out
there and just to have a place where
we're really digging for the truth and
really digging to really discover
something beautiful like this is
beautiful you know yeah dude thanks for
the support man if I appreciate it and
stay on LinkedIn with this man
reach out absolutely always brother much
love
all right god bless bro Shalom peace god
bless take care
awesome ray thanks for calling bro just
give a shout-out to everybody to in the
in the chat even the trolls I can't tell
us somebody's children
somebody says kid somebody's talk like
giving like all this testimony stuff in
the chat I didn't ask him if they can
order some meth it's kind of weird but
yeah meditation man
god is good Bret Stacey Ali we had ray
Leone ooh I don't know how to pronounce
that we check send Danny Kristy Lee
Carolyn
careful carpenter Andrew Jackson salad
they all my people holding us down in
the chat room DC and Carolina Danny yeah
all you guys think you guys to hold us
down and chat makes us a lot more fun to
jump to this next call I'm assuming we
know who this is where we had a caller
from South Alabama who was speaking with
hi there my name is robert gardner i'm
from gulf stores i know cami and Ally
and just love them to pieces kenny is a
great young man of god and i'm so happy
to see him doing this ally gave me a
little
a personal message there on Facebook and
I thought I'd tune in for I went to bed
and just so happy to see you guys
exalting Jesus Christ and you know just
the wondrousness of God how he is so far
beyond our understanding and it it does
my old heart good to see your generation
carrying this torch amen
well thank you
how have you been it's been a long time
well been doing good
you you know way back a while I got into
the suit of a grafica when I dialed in
y'all were talking about the Book of
Enoch you know and Jesus called himself
the son of man you know because of that
book and others that the people were
reading in that day in ancient Judea and
those were some wonderful books they
weren't Scripture they were wonderful
you know it's like Billy Graham writing
a book on angels good stuff and not the
Bible but really good stuff that we can
learn from and it's good to learn from
those things and learn with discernment
from and I'm so happy to see you guys
digging in so you know this is actually
the associate pastor of that church in
Orange Beach that yeah yeah yeah reg and
it was his sermon that brought me to
tears that that day man you got a real
special place in me and now he's yeah
and we're definitely thinking about
y'all a lot and we love you brother
okay well thank you so much brothers I
just wanted to give you all a word of
encouragement you know it's it's an
amazing world and that's it's much more
than any of us can ever grasp an
eternity oh my it's even more than that
we we see through a glass dimly even in
this present world and that which is to
come is so awesome
Jesus is responsible for getting us
there and I am so happy I am so happy it
just about makes me weep to see guys
your age going at this and y'all just
keep the faith brothers and keep on
persevering and fighting the good fight
and doing the good work do not grow
weary of doing Guster
thank you so much and then God's name in
Jesus name not just bless you and hope
you all will keep on doing the things
you're doing thank you so much
thank you awesome cuz a stamp of
approval man
yeah seals the deal you give your story
and then we're still friends on Facebook
but the last time I talked to him I
don't know it's been maybe a year since
we've been down there mm-hmm
um I can't remember the last time we
went it's awesome to know um we don't
live for acceptance we don't live for
the applause of men right now we have to
learn that out quick especially if
you're on stages like ah I learned the
hard way of window applause is there
when it isn't and stuff so maybe it's a
little bit different from like when I
say it I like really mean it because
I've had the literal applause of people
in this intoxicating you know but you
have to learn that you don't live by the
approval or the applause but when you
have someone of you has some age on them
he's a generation uh ahead who can smile
down and uh and in gracefully say you
have the torch to keep running with it
and kind of smile upon what you're doing
we don't live for the other men's
approval but it helps it helps for
people to kind of link arms which is hey
it's encouraging you're doing a good job
man actually it may keep pushing don't
give up just something that small yeah
encouraging word life and death is in
the power of the tongue hey man don't
give up bro you're doing a heck of a job
yeah you know it's that simple
that doesn't take a lot but to go out of
your way and make sure you're doing that
you know they go you don't know what
people are going through some people
think about giving up you know they
think their message is falling upon deaf
ears they don't get a response you know
keep at it man
God's called you to it keep doing it you
know you have to not set a prayer a long
time ago that I would show up and do
these concerts and things for three
people like it was ten thousand you know
and I meant it when I said it and I've
had to you know hold to that and know
that it's not about the numbers or it's
not about sure yeah the admiration or
the money like there's all kind of stuff
that comes in with it now all of this
are part of it it's tools and things
like that so you can't like just deny
any part of it applause does come
gratitude does come Pat's on the back do
come people turn in their back on you
does come it's all a part of it yeah and
so just a little word of encouragement
man it can go a long way for people and
like he said I was powerful not do not
grow weary in well-doing
so many of us man like I've gotten very
close now I've been there you know I'm
saying and it's sad but it seems like
sometimes the more you try to help other
people outside your family and outside
of your church family or whatever it's
like the more isolated you become
because you're not up do you know what
do you look at you know yeah especially
if it's Fringe you can just on you know
I say you just imagine me and your
Linkedin with me for a reason you know
what I go through you know I'm saying
and that they were slight up telling me
that what I'm doing is not working
but they don't know they don't get the
inboxes and I'm working for them it's
not working for ya yeah they got their
things they got their pastors they
follow and their leaders in their ritual
and regiment I'm going for the people
who don't yeah and uh and people people
to see that you know so it's encouraging
on any level it's encouraging for you I
mean from for you to support me and to
link in with me and let me know you
believe in me and even though we don't
agree on everything it doesn't matter it
doesn't you're not gonna agree with
everybody on anything
into see past that that's wisdom to
better move past that not to be like you
know what can two walk together unless
they agree nope
bobbles us go my separate way because
you don't believe in the flat earther or
you don't believe in the scripture is
clear on Flat Earth and you refuse it
you rejected I did I've dealt with those
people and that's why it sounds funny
like you know whenever you tell somebody
whenever you tell somebody what is it I
can't remember who it was it said but
it's easier to convince to lie to
somebody to convince somebody of a lie
than it is to convince somebody that
they've been lying to you know and about
the whole flatter thing it would be kind
of on par with saying no that that color
that you call blue well I'm sorry you
were taught wrong that's really great
you know I mean it's just totally
against your earliest beliefs mm-hmm you
know and a lot of a lot of the New Age
religions it it's real funny
scientifically we're opposite of what
ancient cultures were they were smart
they knew math they configured things
out a whole lot better than we ever know
but we still can't figure out how they
built some of the things they built yeah
but scientifically we were kind of
opposite of them like we have our set of
this is how everything was and they have
their set of business how everything is
and spiritually we're going back to what
we think they were into spiritually when
we don't even really know we only know
what the last record of the winner was
and what their spirituality was not yeah
we were we're looking back to the
history to try to learn lessons and
not understanding what we're looking at
because there's nobody to explain it to
us you know it's real dangerous to pick
up something in the middle of a field
and make a 10 page essay about how it
got there you know cuz you weren't there
when it was written you weren't there
when the people were practiced you can
you can write that essay on the effects
of your life you picked it up and what
it did to you what I did for you how
your life changed and when how it can
change other people's lives I think you
can own that mm-hmm
cuz it's your truth you know I'm saying
I think 100 percent a million percent
you can you that's what this shows based
on your experience is your account I
don't like beginning with theories that
we can't prove yeah because I can't
write there's no but the things we can
prove the tangible we can bring to the
table man faith love hope charity you
know and even some of the even deeper
things I think there's ways to prove it
I mean I've seen a lot of stuff you know
so I like to get into some of that and
and I'm passionate about it for a reason
you know but um it's about making it
tangible you know and I do like that
stuff that's why I have to be careful
cuz I do like it it'll pull me down the
rabbit hole
yeah like it is Santos rabid old school
Santos down a rabbit hole Santos where
he was how long you been checking his
work out but he was he's laughed at now
because of flatter
nicer huge following but it was a lot
bigger you know Jeff ladders I mean you
know it is one of those things that's
not popular people don't like that but
if it's just think it's this thing
you've been causing we can't worry about
the following you know I mean if you're
about the truth and you find out
something is true then you gotta be
about the truth that was the thing with
me people said it people said about me
or you refused to get into Flat Earth
because you know it'll split your the
marginalize your fan base and I could
but I can't prove it ain't nobody can
prove it wouldn't I can't feel we could
talk about it but I can tell you that I
can go down to Mobile Bay
and look all the way across it and see
things that I shouldn't be able to see
on the other side that's what I can tell
you I can tell you that they're math and
what they tell you is true
is just not true that's all I can tell
you I only poke holes in their flock it
yeah you know I mean I can only poke
holes in their theory I can prove any
formulated because I can't I enough to
take a picture the whole thing either so
you know well hey man I've enjoyed this
talk essentially this podcast was
founded upon hanging out with what
brothers on the phone for hours having
an interesting conversation and be like
man I wish we would have recorded this
man somebody needs to hear this I wish
we can so much you know discussion and
that's why I started this podcast and so
essentially what you guys are hearing
now is two brothers hanging out and
talking and you get to you get to listen
in on the conversation and be a part of
it as well see some other people jumping
in on the chat daniel ocker he says hi
what's going on Bret Stacey says brother
Wayne that's funny you mention that I'm
thinking about interviewing brother
Wayne he probably should have did that
for the hundreds episode but I'm
thinking about interviewing brother
Wayne
that'd be very interesting if that
happens do a whole interview with him
ray says he was there for the Santos
talk no doubt so with that I'm gonna say
peace and Shalom thank you guys for
supporting my work and what I do do you
have any links if anybody wants to link
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media I have a Facebook but no thanks
we're kind of trying to unplug yeah so
to speak you know and and practice what
I preach
help the people around me and say
getting caught up with what's happening
on the other side yeah I know
yeah not saying that's for everybody I'm
not saying Facebook's bad I have it it's
just my name Kenny right out
I may or may not you know answer answer
nothing personal I'm just not on there
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peace
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