Santos Bonacci | Flat Earth, Government Lies And Cover Ups

Santos Bonacci  Flat Earth, Government Lies And Cover Ups
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my good friend, Santos Benacci, what's up, brother?
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Good.
What's going on, brother? How are you?
very well thanks thanks for having me welcome back to the show I think the
first one that we did was I guess at 2013 it's been a few years now and a lot
a lot has happened since then with you with research and everything and we
were supposed to do another show I know it's been over a year ago now but the
last show that we had scheduled was the same day that you went to jail. And we had a
show scheduled for that day. So this is the makeup show. Talk a little bit about that
man. So like a lot of people don't know that you went to jail and everything that was
going on with that. And the media coverage that was surrounding that whole incident. Talk
a little bit about that. Yeah well the system went out of their way to make an example of me
and to rubbish my work, my activities, my reputation and everything they just try to destroy
we, they tried to destroy you as they do and I was like I didn't get killed because these
people would, would love to have me dead, that would very much love to have me dead.
So I was in fear all the time constantly, knowing that some very, very evil and sinister
individuals would be behind that. And this is what they do. It's the Inquisition. The
Inquisition has never gone away. It's changed names many times. These days I think they
changed the name in 1965. Last time they changed it and it's called, well let me have a
look scared of Wikipedia and put inquisition in and we'll see that the
Inquisition is still alive today and the officers are being positioned at the
police, the bailiffs, the sheriffs, the judges, the clerks, all doing the work of
the Inquisition. There you go in the third paragraph in Wikipedia it tells you
that the name of the Inquisition in 1965 became the congregation for the
doctrine of the faith. There you go, but it's still alive and well. And putting good people
in jail, as Jesus said, the day will come when they will put you in prison in my name.
For speaking the truth, I just had Jordan Maxwell on the other day, and I was just kind of
relating his scenario, his situation where he's at now, and just relating it back to Jesus,
getting the truth out there and them, like you said, making an example out of you, almost
to scare everyone out, you know, I think whenever they let Jesus sit across and we
seen who was there with them at the end, like all of its followers, everyone was scared
to death and nobody, they said that they weren't affiliated with him or anything when
it was time for the persecution to come and stuff like that.
And I want to talk a little bit as well because I want to go into flat earth tonight.
It's kind of been the same thing with flat earth.
When you bring it up, people already have a belief on it, or they already feel some type
of way about it without looking at any of the research.
And if you say that you believe in flat earth, you're going to get socially ridiculed,
people are going to make fun of you.
And I know you've seen it because you do the work, but I've had so many people say that
They quit listening to Santos when he started talking about flat earth.
So I want to ask you, I'm not studied on it.
I stayed away from it because I've seen what everybody in the truth or
movement did and how they point fingers and they pull support and everything.
So I want to ask you why flat earth?
Why is it like this big, big deal and what's behind it?
Well, the greatest deception ever to plague mankind is the globe and the globalist families
behind the globe.
This is what people fail to see because they're not researchers and they're not truthers.
They're happy to go with the crowd as the scripture.
That's true.
Yeah, the crowd says it's a globe and the Inquisition for 500 years has supported the globe
and taught the globe and persecuted flat earths as witches and wizards and heretics, etc.
But they were right, our ancestors were right, our ancestors were intelligent, they all believed
that we lived on a stationary flat horizontal plane.
And that means all of our ancestors.
So since when did we become so smart 500 years ago with the Copernican Revolution that
we just totally turned our backs on all of our ancestral traditions which held records and
accounts and tabulated their wisdom and catalogued all of their knowledge that Rome came
along and the Jesuits burned, rewrote history and created a new world order called Globalism
based on the Santa globe, something that never existed and never will exist. But there you go.
They've educated people to think that they're upside down spinning whilst they're
doing their ejaculation. All the other swine-eating things that they do. What they've done is they've
turned humanity into prodigal sons. The prodigal son went to sleep with prostitutes
and to get intoxicated and so essentially that's what they're doing. They're distracting
people with all of these distractions and pseudoscience and people are falling for it.
So the scripture warns that even the chosen ones that will try to deceive. So the warning
is loud and clear. We need to be very, very careful in these days. Our warfare is a war
against the principalities of the air, of the kingdom of the air. It's a spiritual warfare.
And the Jesuits are masters of deceiving humanity. It's their globalism and the globe
is very gender. I've exposed the families behind the globe. It's the Farnese family,
or senior family, the Borja family, Aldobrandini, Panfili, Colona, yeah, Colona became Columbus.
So if you're looking for the Colona plantation in the Americas, District of British Columbia,
the District of Columbia, British Columbia, the country in South America called Columbia.
All of these plantations belong to the Kollongna family, and the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers
and all of these other names, Brakespier, all of these power families, they all come
from these four or five families, Borja, Borgeses, Orcini, Farnezes, they've always held
the power in Rome, they've always controlled commerce, they've always controlled the judiciary
system through Justinian law, which is dog Latin, they've controlled everything, and
they funded Copernicus, the Jesuits, and they funded Newton, the Jesuit, Galileo, Galilee,
the Jesuit and all of their telescopes, et cetera,
they are all owned by the Jesuits.
Since the day of Matteo Ricci, who went to China to try
and seduce them into globalism, which I call
the Globe Tardery, they finally succeeded
with the opium wars and China fell to the globe conspiracy.
It's the biggest sign-up in history. It has caused more persecution and blood shedding than any other truth
There has never been a truth
Hang on a minute. It's so cold here. Excuse me
There's never been a truth more persecuted than the stationary horizontal earth truth
reason being is when you make a globe you make a contained
domicile for humanity. You contain them. You put limits on how far they can go. You
can't go at a space because you haven't got the money. You can't go past Antarctica
because 47 nations have signed a dubious treaty to protect Antarctica from you going there
and pee on the snow. That would cause the world to stop turning. You can't go there
and pee and defecate on that beautiful white snow, so we're going to have a treaty under
the Vatican, of course, under the auspices of the Vatican and the pedophile Pope protecting
these families who control all of our commerce, we're going to protect Antarctica because
we really do a great job of protecting the rest of the planet.
You can see how well it's doing, so you let us keep that treaty going, don't you
explorers go beyond, as did Sir Captain George Hubert Wilkins, in the 30s he went 5,000 miles
beyond Antarctica and discovered many lands as he documented in his logbook. So we can see that clearly
there is an agenda behind the globe. Global economy, global governance, global religion,
which is the inquisition under the Catholic Church and the Holy See. Global warming and all of these
crocs that have been invented by pedophiles as the globe's size is for stupid upside down
spinning idiots, which they call useless idiots and useless eaters. Hence, they are spraying
chemtrails over them to kill them because they are useful seeders if they can
believe they're upside down spinning on a dunce cloud, we think they are more
than useful seeders. How far past, I guess the North Pole are we talking? Are we
talking like something huge in other lands and other people existing over
there? I mean what do we have for today? It's just something that the
the ancients believed in because that's definitely documented in all the art and a lot of the major
holy books talking about this flat earth. People ask me all the time, my opinion on it. I don't
really have a strong opinion I have in giving myself over to study it to make an educated opinion
but I say that if it's not true then our ancestors were wrong because they all believed in flat earth.
So how far past an article are we talking about something like like huge like what we already know today and it just keeps going or is there a limit or what? I mean what what's the picture look like?
Well, we don't really know explorers have come back and recounted their missions both to the North Pole and to the South Pole, which we call the Arctic and Antarctica both of these regions
are populated by peoples and nations and peaceful and more awakened and advanced societies.
And so the elite families are aware of this, they're well aware of this, they communicate
with some of these extraterrestrials and limit what information we can be privy to and control
the information channels, the media. And so many people are waking up to this. Many people
of red the accounts of voyages that have been conducted in the North Pole over the hundreds
of years, especially Swedish, Norwegian, Russian accounts. Many books have been written by many
explorers who have been to lands beyond Greenland, beyond the Arctic Circle, up to the
parallel, where there is abundance of life, whereas in Antarctica, there is no
life beyond the 55th parallel. So you see the South Pole is truly very, very
different to the North Pole. That's totally two different creatures. And science
knows this. But beyond Antarctica, which is a massive ice wall, there are other
Lance as Sir Captain George Hubert Wilkins discovered, and he was a colleague and friend
contemporary of what's the American explorer who went to both North Pole and South Pole,
Admiral Bird. There you go, Admiral Bird was a friend of Sir Captain George Hubert Wilkins,
But Wilkins did go beyond the work of Admiral Bird, but both of these men were silenced.
They were not able to share exactly what they discovered there.
The globalists, they just can't afford this.
They need their globe's eye on to persist.
And so these guys would have had restrictions on what they could say.
And so we don't know exactly what is there, although all we know is that it's very,
very well guarded and for a good reason.
Because they love their prison planet, works well for them, they've got everybody signed
up, everybody's believing in their global warming hoax and their, you know, climate control
and how they're protecting us with chemtrail so that nature won't destroy us in obliterate
us.
Nature's no way of correcting all of her cycles and rhythms and ages so that, you know,
We can allow the creator and nature to correct everything under her control.
No, we have to interfere with it.
And all for the name of protecting us and the globe and the furtherance of the global agendas,
you know, no borders, oh, we don't want borders.
We don't need people being having developed societies and protecting their national interests.
We don't want that.
We want to tear down national borders.
I love George Soros and the globalists, so that there is no more national identities
and everything's just a homogenized, global religion where the Pope can protect you forever
because there are terrorists out there. You see, terrorism, the war on terrorism is just
the Inquisition. It's once it was called the Crusades, then it became the Inquisition and
it became, you know, the doctrine for the Holy faith, then it became blah, blah, blah,
you know, now it's the war on terrorism.
It's the inquisition.
A lot of Christian scholars,
a lot of biblical theologians are now coming out back
in Flat Earth, saying that the prophets
and the people of the Bible believed in it
and there's tons of scriptures that refer to it
and pointing back to it.
What are some of the key ones that are mentioned
in a holy Bible that stand out to you.
Oh, there's millions.
Isaiah, let me see if I can remember Isaiah.
It says, your work at the firmament,
your handy work of the heavens,
is glorifying the creator, the firmament.
And so it's repeatedly talking about a firmament.
interesting about that as they know that there is a dome-like structure that the stars are
embedded in which are above our heads. It's a fact of reality and the ancients knew this
and they protected this beautiful wisdom. Genesis 1 14, and God said, let there be lights in
the firmament of the heaven to divide day from the night. Genesis 1-6 let there be a vault
between the waters to separate the waters above from the waters below. Amos 9-6, the
one who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and has founded his vaulted dome over
the earth. Here you calls for the waters of the sea and pause them out on the face of
the earth. Psalm 24.2, for he founded it on the seas and established it on the waters.
Proverbs 8.29, when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command
and he marked out the foundation of the earth. These are just some, I mean I'm just
I'm just clicking through a presentation.
I can read tens of them from the Quran.
I can read Bhagavad Gita.
Let's see.
I wanna grab some really good ones.
Here's Rudja of Omar Khayan, his Islamic.
He says, and that inverted bowl, we call the sky.
Where under, crawling, copped, we live and die,
lift not by hands to it for help,
for it rolls in, potentially,
in, potentially, on as though or I.
The Sumerians, the boundary between the primeval sea
and the earth, a flat disk, was a solid vault,
within which was the gas-like atmosphere,
The stars, planets, sun and moon, were embedded in this solid vault.
Anaxaminis, the great Greek philosopher, described the heaven as a felt cap that turned
on its head and the stars fixed to the surface like nails.
Here's Job 37-18.
though with him spread out the sky, which is strong and as a molten looking
glass, yeah, the Hebrew cosmology. Isaiah 40-22, he sits enthroned above the
circle of the earth, not the sphere, a circle is not a sphere, like a circle
coin is certainly, as round. Exactly. So, yeah, the earth is round, but it's not round
spherically, circularly. So, continuing in verse 22, and it's people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
I mean, I could go on Psalm 19, 4.
This is the scripture that a verne of on brown has on his tombstone.
The heavens declare the glory of God.
There is no speech, nor are their words.
Their voice is not heard.
Their line has gone out through all the earth and their utterances to the end of the world.
In them he has placed a tent for the sun, a tabernacle, which is the bridegroom coming
out of his chamber. It rejoices as a strong man to run its course. So, the heavens declare
the glory of God. What is that, the firmament? First Chronicles 1630, he has fixed the
earth, a firm unmovable, unmovable. Some 104.5, he established the earth upon its
foundations. So there's some foundations under the earth. So it will not be made to
totter forever and ever. What does that mean? Well, the earth will not be made to
it doesn't move. This is why there are seismic instruments that can detect the movement
of one-tenth of a millimeter of the earth. How can that be? If it's supposedly orbiting
around the sun at Mach 88. Mach 88, the sun is orbiting, the earth is a sort of dirt,
starting water, rotating at Mach 1.35, 1,035 mile an hour, and racing, orbiting around
the sun, at 66,600 miles an hour, 6,6,6, which is Mach 88, Mach 89.
Have you seen any pilots under the G forces of Mach 1, or 1.5, have you seen their faces
contort and their eyes pull back, like wrapped almost to the back of their heads, under the
g-forces of Mach 2. We're talking Mach 88, this sort of dirt wrapped in soft water and very
beautiful carbon-based atmosphere and butterflies flying around in the atmosphere and it is
is compressing against the molecules of space at Mach 88 and yet for half the day we
don't feel that compression on our heads during the day between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. and then
at night because we are in the wake of that sort of earth traveling at Mach 88, why don't
we then feel some rare affection or a vacuum
or being sucked into the earth.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Hmm.
Or the atmosphere, I should say.
Mm-hmm.
We're talking Mach 88.
And that's just one of four movements
that the earth supposedly is making.
And yet seismic instruments can detect
one-tenth of a millimeter, of movement of the earth.
And the alarms go ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How much is one-tenth of a millimeter?
That's about the breadth of a bees' willy.
Yeah, and yet, supposedly,
we are orbiting at a thrusting, pulsating,
a hurtling rate of Mach 88.
Wow, fascinating, yeah, people buy that, but yes.
Another one, I think they throw out there,
So they say, okay, if the earth is flat,
if we're living on a flat earth,
what's with the planets,
the spherical planets that we see in the night skies?
In NASA and all of this stuff.
What's going on with those things?
Are they spheres or do they exist?
I mean, what are we looking at?
Well, they appear as spheres because of our spherical eyes
and how everything is decoded by our eyes.
the ancients knew what they were. They didn't say they were spheres, although Pythagoras described them
as the music of the spheres, the harmony of the spheres. But he was not at all suggesting that they
were spherical. The spheres are as in spheres of influence because he knew the true cosmology.
Okay. He knew. I mean, he knew it was... Yeah, he knew it was geosentric. He knew they were
For discs, as the Egyptians described the moon, the lunar disc, the sun disc, even in the
Bible.
Let's have a look at, alright, well let's have a look at Malachi, shall we, Malachi chapter
4, the last chapter in the Old Testament, so what do we got here, Malachi chapter 4?
This will be easy for anyone to to look at and to check Malachi 42 but for you who fear
my name the son of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings the son of righteousness
the SUN. Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, okay, with healing in its wings. How do the Egyptians depict
the sun? That's exactly what that is. Yeah, how do the how do the Jehovah's Witnesses depict
the sun on the facade of their assembly hall in New Jersey? You can look it up on Google.
a sun disk with wings on it. Why are the Jehovah's Witnesses telling you in your face that the sun is a disk with wings?
Because the Jesuits tell you that too, because the Egyptians tell you that because it is.
Same symbol.
And the Babylonians, a disk, a winged disk, and what are the wings?
The wings, if you look at the sun, the sun is just a condensed rainbow.
It's golden light or white light because all of those seven reflected colors of the rainbow
are condensed in the sun and the sun is the one that emanates that electromagnetic spectrum
of colors, violet and red, infrared ultraviolet and everything in between.
And so therefore the sun is the winged, the aboriginals here call it the rainbow serpent.
In America they call it quits a quaddle, varicosia.
It's the winged disc.
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Can you hear someone coming up the driveway?
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So Sandman in the chat room says,
how can you be a true seeker and swerve flat earth?
If you heard the very beginning,
I stayed away from it because,
first of all, it marginalizes any type of sphere
of influence that you have,
almost like all of these, you know,
Sam, religion and politics when you discuss this stuff,
when you start saying that you believe in flat earth
or that you push this and I've seen it happen with Santos,
that's why I'm talking to him at the beginning about it.
I've seen his fan base almost essentially
cutting half a lot of times when his name is mentioned now,
people laugh.
And so because of flatters and all that.
So that's why I wanted to have him on
and kind of go into some more detail.
So that's why I've stayed away from flatters and stuff.
And that goes with that and people are like wanting to know when people are wanting to know your stance on flat earth
So they can make an opinion on what to think of you. Oh, you're one of those guys. Okay, I'm done with you
The same thing has been been been done to me about it through my fan base about homosexuality
They want to know how do I feel about the
transgender community things like that
And if I don't give them the right answer they're gone, right? So I was like, you know what if that's the case
I'm not even going to address it. So that's what, you know, the kind of
stance that I took on that. So Santos, your back, brother.
Yeah, I am. Now, you mentioned something very, very interesting. I appreciate that
radio DJs and interviewers need to be open-minded and sure, they are protecting themselves
because they have a listener base and they want to be open-minded to all things, so I appreciate
that position. My position is different. I'm a truther. I'm a truther. I'm a truther.
A researcher and a truther. My duty is to present the truth. Now, I was heliocentric up until
three years ago, and my work was done based on an incorrect model. The work still stands,
because it's based on the ecliptic, it's not based on any shape of the earth. I never
did that. So the work still stands, but now it has been corrected and it is based on the
the true model, which is the model that was in Europe for thousands of years before
Copernicus, and that is the total make, astrological model. So I, being an astrologer, cosmologist,
mythologist, etymologist, syncretist, etc. I, now, I'm going with the ancients. So I'm
going to stick with the Bible, which concurs with astrology, and I'm going to, I'm going
to agree with told me who was correct for thousands of years before Copernicus, thousands
of years.
So, yes, as you mentioned, many people who were following syncretism and decided to jump
off the syncretism boat because they're so intelligent being upside down spinning that they
won't want to get vertical and with the true cosmology, all those people, they were insignificant
in the first place.
Those ones that are laughing, I will get the last laugh, I will be laughing forever.
And my ancestors are laughing and happy that I have turned to the true cosmology and
they are disgusted and rolling around in their graves at these idiot zombies warmed up
death that are kicking around thinking that they know something, they know nothing, they
They are stupid idiots, useless idiots that the governments have turned into morons.
And they think they're upside down spinning.
What a crock of, B.E.S.
That is the biggest crock.
Everyone is vertical.
You know, your senses tell you you are vertical, all ways.
All way.
I mean, even gyroscopes in aeroplanes and the unofficial horizon in aeroplanes, they are
set to a vertical horizon.
never shifts, never shifts. There are many proofs, abundant proofs. In fact, all of the experiments
that have ever been conducted since the astronomer Royale, giant Bradley, in 1729,
have detected no movement of the Earth. None whatsoever. We've got 150 years after James Bradley,
the astronomer Royale, George Arie. He conducted his telescope experiment and he failed to detect
movement in the earth. Hence they call it the George the Aries failure. And then
Michelson Moly, Michelson Gail, Sanyak, Marconi, Marconi proved that the earth is
stationary. His colleague Pierre Luigi Iguina, you can see him on YouTube. He was a
colleague of Marconi for ten years. They proved with two antennas that the earth is
stationery. One is an antenna that reaches up to the sun and collects the
solar rotating energy field and the other is goes down into the earth to
register the earth's energy going backwards. So they realize that there were
two energies, the solar energy and the earth energy. Well, they put a strobe light, they put
a strobe light on the circuits, two circuits, one circuit for the sun and one circuit for
the earth. And you could see that there was a delay in one of the, in the sun's energy field,
electromagnetic energy field,
which proves that one of those fields is moving.
And so you see videos of Pierre-Louis Giugina
before he died in 2004,
explaining that he and Marconi proved quite simply
that the earth is stationary and does not move.
And so with their strobe light laboratory machines
machines and instruments, they were able to prove that the rotation is from the Sun only.
And another thing that Pierre Luigi Gina did was he was able to show the Sun at night
to the mayor of his town.
He had all the important people of his town come to his laboratory and he showed them
all and he was very proud of this, that he was able to show them the sun by night. Now how
can you see the sun by night if it's on the other side of a globe? See the sun never ever, ever,
is under the globe. It is always above the flat horizontal stationary earth rotating.
And this is the point, the point is that we have science on our side,
only experiments have proven that the Earth is stationary. Scientific experiments,
these scientists, Pierre Luigi Gina, he's not a nobody.
Marconi, these are not nobodies. These are men who have proven conclusively,
and yet we have Einstein with his one quote.
But I have come to believe that no experiment, scientific experiment can prove the movement
or has detected the movement of the earth, yes, because Einstein the Jesuit is a liar.
And all of these CGI images, they all come from the Jesuit-owned astronomical field.
And so they control the information, they control the globe, they are the globals because
they protect the Farnese family and the Orcini family.
Farnese, Pepe Orcini is the great pope, okay?
People need to understand this.
The Orcini family have yielded the reins of power in Rome for thousands of years, okay?
And so Pepe Orcini, the great pope, he pulls the strings of Pope Francis the white pope
and Calvin back the superior general of the Jesuits, the Blackpote and Nicholas Adolphus
and the new one now. There are three of them apparently. And then Farnese, King Juan Carlos of Spain,
is a Farnese. He's also the King of Jerusalem. Yeah, the Crusades, remember? The King of Jerusalem,
that was a title that the papal bloodline crusading families created. They created the title
of the King of Jerusalem. So he's the King of Spain, which controls all of the Americas.
King of Jerusalem, he's the military navigator of the Knights of Malta. That means he's
one of the most powerful men in the world. And he's also the Roman monarch of the world.
This is a fernazet. These are families that goes back to Persia and the Persian Empire,
which destroyed Europe ultimately. Even though the Greeks destroyed the Persian Empire,
the Persian Empire had the back door. They created the Atrussken Empire and the Roman Empire.
So that was the back door that destroyed Greece and Greece was protecting Europe from the onslaught
coming from the east. And so the Persians established the Mithraic Zoroastrian religion in Rome.
Rome was Mithraic before Constantine made it officially. Christian, so Mithras was their god and
the Persians and these families, they set themselves up in Europe so that then they could conquer
the Americas and then create a God.
That is a lot of research for someone just to watch a short thing or a meme across Facebook
and then make their judgments and assumptions off of a meme when you've obviously done
not hours but days and months and years of research
on this topic for you to actually come out
and endorse it.
I want to go to the phone lines.
We got some people waiting,
some people in chat room want to ask some questions.
So we got a caller here from South Alabama.
I hope this is the friend of mine.
I got a friend of mine who's just getting in the flat earth
and he's immersing itself into it.
And hopefully this is him,
but we have a call from South Alabama who we speak of it.
Well, it's going on.
How you welcome to the show, brother?
Good.
Good.
You got another phone?
You want to tell about this?
Said again.
So I'm glad you're finally doing a show about this.
Awesome.
Well, dude, we got, we got probably one of the leading experts in the field on right now about the subject.
You got any questions you want to go into with Santos?
I do have one question, one thing I just can't wrap my mind around, but I wanted to say something first about Einstein. I don't know why, but when I was listening to him talk about him.
I don't think he was as evil as he made him sound. He fell in love with science for sure.
But QSP himself didn't even believe his theory
and didn't think any of them were prudent.
So, you know, she was just a brilliant man
that was chasing a rabbit down the wrong hole.
And, you know, that's as far as that goes.
And Nickola Tesla, Einstein knew that he wasn't
as smart as Nickola Tesla.
So, that's just all that character at least, you know.
But anyway, the one thing I just can't wrap my mind around.
Sometimes whenever it's cloudy and everything's just right,
whenever the sun's set,
it looks like it starts to shine on the bottom side of the clouds.
And I was just, I don't know,
I can't wrap my head around that.
And I was wondering if you had an answer for that.
Did you get that?
Yep, yep, we'll see.
The sun is, when the sun is setting,
you've got to understand that the sun is,
what's happening now is that the sun is disappearing
beyond the horizon point.
You can see this on a flat road, on a railway line,
in a long corridor, where the sun is actually
disappearing out of your field view
and beyond, yeah.
And so you can see there that the sun is always perpendicular
with a horizontal and parallel with the earth, OK?
So when the rays of the sun are coming towards us
from sun setting, you've got to understand
that there is a miles of ocean
that the light is reflecting from.
And you know, light is curved linear.
It's not straight.
You see, yes, they say light is curved.
It is curved linear.
And so, yeah, I know what can affect it and everything too.
It's all magnetic light is magnetism.
Light, white light is one and the same as magnetism.
magnetism creates magnitude and space and time. All of those words, all of them, they are all the same thing. Time is magnetism, magnitude is magnetism,
white, white, black, black light is dielectricity. And so you've got a black, yin, and yang. And what that is is the Godhead,
The Godhead is these lights of black and white.
And so what you have is black represents the black light of dielectricity and white light
is magnetism.
And so when these two field modalities work against each other, electrification is produced.
That's the third part of the Trinity electricity.
And electricity has color, it's not white and it's not black, it's red and blue, red
shift, blue shift, red blood, blue blood, all of these material lisms, red, the rainbow,
the rainbow is just red shift on one side, blue shift on the other.
And that's what we call electromagnetism, but really we should just call it electricity because
magnetism, as John Milwaukee says, the great genius, magnetism is a spiritual energy. It is not
material. Electricity is material. The electrical wave is the transverse wave, you see, and that
that wave is curved linear as it projects and propagates itself and then eventually disintegrates,
whereas the longitudinal wave, it's unlimited. There's no, it never disintegrates. It's God's
force. And so the light tricks, you see the sunlight as it comes through the atmosphere,
it's going to shine under the clouds. That's an amazing phenomena, how that happens.
So what you can see is that the sun is really a projection up there in the vault of the heavens,
or in the firmament. And so its distance is in relation to your eye at all times.
So when it's at the meridian above your head,
Um, you know, that could be, it could be only a few hundred miles above your head, but when it's setting along the horizon, now you're stretching a few thousand miles.
Into the sun.
Kenny, you there?
Yeah, I'm here.
Okay, it's not like somebody screamed or something. Do you hear that?
No, that's my daughter, she's asking for peace eyes.
The little ones. I remember the last time me and Santos had a had a discussion. There was little ones in the background. Then some years ago.
But yeah, man, do you have another question, Kenny?
No, that was pretty much it. I kind of figured it was something like that. And I saw another
on the mobile gases, the gases that are the lightest and up at the top of the atmosphere
already are the same light that they use for me on time and stuff like argon, especially.
But as the sun passes through, he was also saying the sun's electric, it's an electric
forcing it, that's why you see it, the different colors, but Argonne just happens to glow
sky blue whenever, you know, it's electrified into a sign and everything and the magnetic
currents you can bend the light into any shape you want to make it and there's definitely
electromagnetic currents going all over the place and the magnetic field of the earth itself
and the highest altitude balloon videos
and stuff that I've seen with the sun way out there
where you can still see it, but it's like a pincracker light.
The whole horizon is still shining this bright blue color
even with the sun being that far away
and invisibly smaller than what light should be able
to make that much light.
I mean, it's crazy, it's like God really did create light
and then you put the sign in and...
Yeah, Argonne, Argonne is the 18th element
in the periodic chemical table,
and 18 is 6, 6, 6, and our backward is Ra.
So, and also, Argonne is Argus,
which is the boat, the arc of Noah.
Because it is the carrier that is in the air.
There is 78% nitrogen and 20% oxygen.
And then the remaining 2% 1% argon.
argon is the boat.
It is the connecting element of all the elements
in the universe.
argon is the most underrated, yeah.
And so, I'm probably why we use it with our welding machine
that works, because it helps the bonding of their elements
together.
Yeah, and everything is in critic.
R is the way we say the letter R, which
is the 18th letter of the alphabet, 6, 6, 6.
gone. You see, it has to do with that number as well. See, the letter R has to do with
radiation, the transverse wave. That's why it is evil because it radiates. Ra, Ra in Hebrew is
evil. In Egyptian, it's the Sun. So how can the Sun be evil when you make put these two things
together because that's how syncretism works. Well, because it radiates an electro-magnetic
transverse wave, which is inferior to its source wave or pulse, which is the longitudinal
standing scale away. And so the Sun is a transformer from the scalar energy to Hertzian energy,
which is inferior, because that wave, as I said before,
the light travels curved linear, and it creates all of these illusions.
It's the master of deception, this transverse wave, because of eyes.
Yeah, and so therefore, electricity becomes bell, becomes bale, which is the false God.
You see, because bail deceives us with this transverse wave.
Our eyes pick up the frequency of that light and deceives us because we see everything
in reverse with our eyes, even our image in the mirror.
And so, in effect, we have our greatest friend, the Sun, which illuminates our eyes so
that we can actually see and work things out,
is actually the deceiver at the same time.
Because the way it reveals nature is in reverse.
And that's what Pierre Luigi again has says.
He says, scientists today will never work out
that the earth is stationary.
Because they look at this instrumentation of mine
and they can see that something is moving in the field.
They can see that there's movement,
but they attribute it to the earth
because they are scientists of effect.
They are not science researchers of causes.
They don't understand causes.
They're materialists.
There's a big difference between material wisdom
and spiritual wisdom.
The wisdom of the world is foolishness
in the eyes of God.
Haha, yup.
Haha, yup.
I can't even think I was brother while I got you on the line.
You know man, I think.
Yep.
I don't know.
Well, thanks for calling in brother.
All right.
All right.
I'll put you on mute.
All right, man.
So coming up on an hour of Santos, I want to ask you a little bit about the backlash and stuff.
What has like how much backlash have you seen since you know going in this
direction of the flat earth that are people lashing out of the people
Saying that they're going the other other way from you or you you know
You've lost it on there. So what what kind of backlash are you seeing from from some of the people in those fields?
Who've been following for years and stuff
Well, first of all if I if I would if I were to
to consider anything from these people who are naysayers, I wouldn't let that work in the
first place, because I had detractors from the start.
My astro theology has been laughed at and ridiculed from the start.
My position on the vegetarian spiritual diet has been all after that by a truckload of
dead corpse eaters.
So my work on astrology has been laughed at by churchgoers because astrologies from the
devil.
My position on geocentrism has been laughed at and all of these ones who are laughing do
Do you think they are a significant or have any relevance in anything at all whatsoever?
They're laughing people, laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, they're debunkers, they're people
who don't have possession of their own minds so that when someone actually speaks like
Jesus, when the crowds went in the Pharisees to listen to Jesus, they went back and reported
to the chief priest, no one has ever spoken like this man before.
Things he says are different.
You see, when syncretism speaks, it speaks truth, absolute truth.
Like none of these truthers out there can even contemplate.
So I look at the ones who fell off the syncretism boat when I went to Geocentric.
And those are the ones that I would have pushed off.
I would have made them walk the plank into the shark-infested waters anyway, just for the irritation
that they were to me.
All the ones that irritated me, the ones that were just dumbasses who were pretending
to be smart and syncretty, all of them bar none, every single one of them, every one of them,
the ones that I detested in the first place.
They're gone by by's to stupid land, upside down spinning forever, trying to fall off the
bottom of the Santa globe, really hard.
And only the intelligent ones like you and your friend online, all the beautiful ones that
I loved and respected in the first place, they're the ones that matter, they will never
leave, they will always be my brothers, they will always be my friends, we will always
be together in spiritual consciousness growing, growing our Christ vision for ever and
ever together.
That's good.
So what encouragement do you have for the people who are, and I think it kind of transcends
Flat Earth and it gets into a whole bunch of just standing for the truth that that's being
laughed at, that's being ridiculed and people who are just getting into it maybe, people
who are talking about Flat Earth and stuff and everybody's laughing at them.
How do you stay positive about it and not just be negative, not being, you know, reading
the comments sections and believing the work and letting that affect you when they
speak those crazy words over you?
And you understand, just to remain positive, I mean, how do you do that?
Is there any practices?
Is it the diet that helps you?
Is it, you know, the prayer of the meditation is just connecting with the creator?
What helps you to kind of get through day to day and encourages you to keep moving
spiritually?
Oh, well I have the best truth, I serve truth. For me there's only one principle worthy
of all adoration and focus and intent, and that is truth. And so when you have the truth
at this level, there's no one that can diminish it. I live with bliss, I live with it,
and it will never be taken away from me.
Never.
Not even when I went to jail.
I was always sustained by the bliss
of knowing the truth.
So these people, these ones that are laughing,
the reason they're laughing is because they're hurting inside,
because they know they're stupid,
and they can't defend,
they have no defense against their globe's style.
So one tactic that I employ is to give them evidence.
Like for instance, I'll see a thread on Facebook
where they're laughing at the flat earth.
We'll just throw in an evidence which just silences
and then you don't see any more comments after that.
You just see that they just shut up
because they are the ones who are watching
the flat earth videos and seeing the evidence
that we're living on a flat plane.
They're seeing it, but at the same time,
cognitive dissonance and the fact
they love the herd mind because that's where they get all the support. They don't want to look
different and be laughed at and ridicule. So they realise that they are going against their
intelligence by sticking with the herd but seeing the evidence for the flat earth. For instance,
here's one evidence, just one simple evidence. The world record for long distance landscape photography
is a guy who was sitting in the Pyrenees in Spain and he could see the Alps in France and he filmed
photographed 443 kilometers of flat flat flat flat flat flat earth. He filmed
pick gaspar in the French Alps and you can see the Mediterranean sea in between the Pyrenees and the Alps
and you see a flat flat perfectly flat Mediterranean Ocean and then you see the mountain.
You don't see it sloping away after 400 kilometres, you actually see the mountain,
the base of the mountain, here's the camera in the Pyrenees in Spain and there's the peak of the
mountain right up at your eye level, the bottom of the mountain flat everywhere flat at your eye
level. Where's 400 kilometers of slope, those mountains should never ever be seen from Spain,
you should never be able to see anything at all, at all, at all, at all, on a globe, at all whatsoever.
Not even the tops of the mountains dipping below some curve, you should not be able to see them
whatsoever from the continent or from the country of Spain. And yet you can see all of the mountains,
all of the Alks France lifted up right to your eye level and you're and sure enough the
guy is elevated a few thousand feet regardless regardless even if he was at sea level there
should still be half of that mountain if not all of it hidden away from the curd.
So you can go to the internet and you can punch in world record landscape photography
and you can punch in the word pick PIC, gas bar, gas bar ends with a D but it's not pronounced
in French, gas bar, punching those words and see it for yourself and that is approved
which you cannot deny.
Now one point just to finish off, that flat Mediterranean sea that you will see in that
photograph. That's the same flat Mediterranean ocean, which reaches out to the
Suez Canal. The Suez Canal is 100% flat. How do we know? Because the
engineers, they tell you, they tell you that when they carved it out, they
made a flat arbitrary datum line and they carved it out to that flat line for
120 miles. When they opened it, no gates, no sluses, no locks, flat, flat, 120 miles should
be about 7,000 feet of fall. And then when they opened the canal up to the water, well,
low and behold, it didn't over flood, it didn't drain, because imagine if 120 miles of
as soon as canal at the top of the globe,
well, it would be constantly drained
if we were living on a globe.
Think about it.
And yet, and yet, it didn't flood at state level.
It stayed level.
It went out hundreds of miles into the Red Sea that way.
Hundreds of miles all the way to Greece
and Italy in the Mediterranean Sea,
the other direction.
And there you see that beautiful photo
of Pika Gaspar, 443 kilometers of flat, flat, flat, flat, flat, flat,
flat, stationary.
You can't argue these things.
That's what shuts the upside-down charts in an instance.
Yeah.
I'm about to check that picture out.
We do have some more calls here.
I'm going to go to the phone lines.
We got a call from Northern New Jersey, who we speaking with.
call from northern New Jersey all right so we got user Donaldson what's up
Donaldson hello color hey what's up it's Donaldson right here hey what's
going on man you got a question to comment first Santos you don't oh absolutely
Santos, it's a pleasure. First of all, I thought that was your voice and I said,
wait a minute, I gotta, I gotta chime in. Santos, let's do us a favor. Would you please,
my name, by the way, my name is Donald can flow time on Facebook, but also Donaldton on,
on, on, on, on talk shoot. And I don't have very many shows up there, but everybody knows
that I give help to people who, who are basically relying on contradictory theories and ideas.
Okay, I give hell why because I'm a now I'm an analyst. That's all I do. It's legal research
But I also see the spiritual side to do the legal connection. Okay, and I've seen the minute relation first-hand
and
So my question to you is regarding the moon and be a quits
Okay, and I've heard some some theories unless you guys already discussed this
I've actually heard then mentioning some people mentioning that the
possible that it wasn't really the rules that actually passed
front of the sun. Is that true?
Yeah of course it's true. How do we know that? Well because at every new moon
the moon should be occulting the sun. If it is
a rock in space which it is not then
at every new moon for two and a quarter days
We should see the sun and the moon together, but again astrology comes and saves the day the mother of all sciences teaches.
That when a planet, any planet, Venus, Mercury included, comes within 15 degrees of the sun.
You can't see it. It becomes blindsided. The sun, it's called under the beams of the sun.
or I use the expression in my astrological
parlance under the rays of the sun.
Because that's what these guys taught us.
They taught us that when moon comes within 15 degrees
of the sun, you can't see the moon.
You will never see the moon.
And if the moon was going in front of the sun,
we would have an eclipse every 29.49 days every time,
every time because because
let me just get a whiteboard and it was straight when I'm trying to say okay
hey man you want to plug your show one more time one we got a second
Donaldson float got it's Donaldson's analysis on a fit on a talk shoot
so it's one four one seven nine two I got just a few episodes on there
there, but I also have Donaldson float time where I upload a lot of pertinent content regarding
now time prophecy, but also legal analysis. But Santos, I think you're the ideal to
mic to you. Okay guys, there's the sun. Okay, 15 degrees. Anything that comes within
15 degrees, which is 30 degrees. One whole zodiacal sign, guys. One whole sign. This is
why you'll never see the moon conjunct the sun. Now, this is the ecliptic of the sun.
The sun does not go above the ecliptic, nor does it go below the ecliptic. This is called
declination. Okay, now, okay, great. As it goes along the longitudinal lines in the sky,
this is called right ascension. Ra, okay, right ascension of meridian, ram.
So, when the moon, when the moon is coming near the sun like this when it's waning,
you guys see this don't you? You see the banana of the moon and then and then
when the moon actually goes into the fifteenth degree all of a sudden there's
no moon you can't see the moon until the new moon and then in Islam they
rejoice when they see, when they behold the new moon, this crescent of the moon, then
they begin their, they stop their fasting, right? So this is, this is the point. Declination,
The moon can only be five degrees positive declination or five degrees negative declination
to the sun, but at every new moon, at every new moon,
The moon will pass the sun in right ascension,
so it could be up here, five degrees higher,
depending on where it is, or it could be here.
But why can't you see that rock?
Let's say on the next new moon,
the moon is at its maximum five degrees positive
declination, it would still be around the disk
of the sun and partially covering the sun.
Because the sun's disk remembers,
I believe it takes up at least,
we will have to work out how many degrees
is it a couple of degrees that the sun actually covers.
It's disk, someone will have to check that,
I haven't checked that.
So I can't remember how big the disk is
and how many degrees it occupies, okay?
But the point is this,
Even if the moon at every new moon is only partially obscuring the sun,
which it should at 99% of new moons, it doesn't.
It goes invisible and, in fact, the Hindus have always taught,
but the moon goes behind the sun at the new moon.
Even though it's invisible, it's not in front of the sun,
and the fact that you can't see it proves that it's not in front of the sun,
So what is happening at the solar eclipse?
Well, it's another body that is passing in front of the Sun,
and that is Rahu, or what we call in Western astrology,
the North node. Astronomers are aware of these nodes,
because the Moon's plane is obviously offset
to the Sun's by maximum five degrees.
So therefore, if they have two different planes,
and we say that this is the ecliptic of the sun in the sky,
well, then the moons ecliptic must be like this.
It must have five degrees offset.
And so these are the nodes, these points
where these two hula hoops, these two planes intersect.
Those are the nodes that are always there, always, always there at the solar or lunar eclipse
either the north node when the moon goes north of the sun or the south node where the moon goes
south of the sun for two weeks are always at the eclipses. This is something that cannot be ignored,
It cannot be ignored at every eclipse,
Rahu, or K-2, the south node or the north node,
is right there within four degrees.
And I'm talking every single recorded in the history
of the universe, every one of them.
Bar none, bar none, never ever has there
been an eclipse of the sun of the moon
when either of those bodies were not within degrees of these nodes.
It's the nodes, it's definitely the nodes, and so it's a combination of the three.
It's a combination of the moon going behind the sun. Remember, she's invisible when she's
this close to the sun. Okay, so the moon will be going on this invisible invisible invisible
for two and a quarter days, invisible. How does the sun have the ability to make completely
invisible this rock in space that is way closer to us? Millions of miles closer to us,
and yet you can't see that ball for two and a quarter days. And then when you do, you see
this thin little slither of light, so faint and scintillating, like it's glorious, it's
absolutely glorious to see the moon after the new moon. Because the amazing fact that you
can't see for two and a quarter days is just staggering and heliocentress and globies cannot
provide any explanation for this phenomenon. They cannot. And if they do, they will look ridiculous.
Is that, is that symbolic for the death and resurrection as well? The moon?
Going behind the sun like that or, or, or, or, you know, not being able to see it in any way and
then coming out on the, on the other side, being new and reborn, you know, you know, you know,
I'm saying down for three days as well, same thing, right? Yes. It's Jesus saying that I will,
I will, in three days' time, this temple will be rebuilt.
This belt, exactly.
Because the temple is the moon's cycle, waxing and waning.
That's her temple.
Because the moon, the moon's true way to the men's true way to us,
the controller of the female menstrual cycle,
this is the ovaries of the solar system.
The moon is the ovaries of the solar system.
It is known to be dangerous.
And to astrology that the moon is the ovaries.
Souls come into this plane through the moon.
They depart through Saturn.
But the moon is what is the only thing
that can attract souls to this plane.
Because she is the ovaries.
And the fact that a woman also harmonizes with her cycles
as the moon wanes, the woman is fertile.
I'm sorry, as the moon waxes,
the woman becomes very, very fertile
in that week before her own full moon cycle, you see?
And the woman has the lunar cycle in her womb.
Every month she has her moon, her womb dissolves,
her moon, her womb dissolves and oblaids and then it starts again and it copies the moon
to the tea. So this is why the Jews, the Islam, the Christian, they love the moon and the
christian moon because she is glorious in her cycle. So is there any study when we're talking
about the moon and understanding that the Israelites followed the moon and God told them
to follow the moon for seasons, for signs, and also going into the Sabbath, like without
going too far into it, is there a spiritual principle that you found out for resting during
the Sabbath or during the new moons?
Well, this conjunction that happens monthly is very sacred.
It's the most sacred observance in all religions, all of them, all of them.
The new moon is a new beginning.
So if you trace the ecliptic through the 28 lunar mansions, you'll find that at every
moon, the first day or the first 13 degrees of the moon departing from the sun, that
energy is the energy of
Aries. Everything starts in Aries, all cycles.
So for two and a half days, 60 hours, the moon will be
figuratively in her Aries part of her cycle.
Then for the next 60 hours, another two and a half days
exactly, the moon will be in Taurus
energy, symbolically. Then, and so for every cycle, she goes around her own zodiac symbolically
because all waves do this. All waves start at areas and finish in Pisces. They go like this.
And that's it. All torus fields, all waves, all energy, thought forms, emotion forms,
particles, if you want to call them pulses, everything that happens starts at
areas and finishes at Pisces, areas is here and Pisces are my two feet. Your
body is astrological, everything is. Yeah, that's about so below. Yeah, that's the
definition. Oh, color from New Jersey, are you on the line with us now? Yeah, can
you hear me? Yeah, what's up, man? You got a question or comment? Yeah, yeah,
Yeah, now I've got a vote actually.
I've been listening to Santos for a little while,
so I wanted to say hi to him and, you know, tell him best.
You know, appreciate the work he does
and everything the way he gets everything out, you know,
it's a good thing.
So my question was regarding the move, okay?
Like when it first comes out,
I've noticed that it's usually like a lot larger
then when as it comes up to the sky, you know, it starts getting a lot smaller and so on, you know, and I forget what the name for this phenomenon is, but how do you, how do you, I guess, correlate that with the fact that, you know, if if yours in fact is a plane and, you know, it's actually disappearing over the horizon.
Why is it bigger?
You know what I mean?
Just add that.
That's where the question I get, sorry.
Yeah, well, this is only half of the situation that you're depicting.
Because the other half is that, in fact, both the sun and the moon,
especially the sun, gets smaller when it is setting.
Sometimes you see bigger, other times you see it smaller.
So there's no consistency in this.
And it has to do with atmospheric lensing
and atmospheric refraction.
You have to understand that when the sun,
there are days when there is much more density,
molecular density in the air, when the sun is low,
and when it's going into its vanishing point.
Therefore, it has its last glow of being amplified
in the effect of atmospheric lensing.
and then it vanishes.
But other days, when the conditions,
that must very conditions are different,
and it's very much drier,
you'll see the sun is actually way,
way smaller when it is setting.
And you can see thousands of sunsets
on YouTube, on the internet,
where the sun, you can actually see the sun,
you can measure it, gets smaller when it sets.
So, there's no consistency to this.
Sometimes it's bigger, sometimes it's smaller,
depends on the atmosphere.
Again, light is Lucifer, the deceiver.
Lucifer means carrier of light, Lucy.
So, the sun is the carrier of light.
He is Lucifer, but that's why he is Lucifer,
because he has his very, very deceptive side.
you cannot trust your material senses.
You can only trust your spiritual senses.
Such are the...
Is the sun Lucifer or is Venus Lucifer?
They all Lucifer, all the seven Elohim sat in Mercury
that they are all Lucifer.
It's just that done and Venus get prime position
in this title, you could call it,
or this name Lucifer, but Venus is also one of the three Lucifer's in the sky because
there are only three bodies in the sky that can cast a shadow and that is the sun, the
moon and Venus. No other body can cast a shadow on this plane other than those three
Lucifer's.
I didn't even know there were three something is new to me so uh caller and um and uh
jersey what's your name again brother John John awesome man you got another question yeah yeah
so I mean well well with you know since you mentioned uh you know like atmospheric cleansing um
you know that's actually you know interesting because I don't know if you've heard uh Eric
You know, I was watching thing, you know, and not just him, but a few others say that you can't sometimes not visible from outside of this blend to get, you can say.
So the actual image that we see is, I guess you could say, made by the atmosphere.
then my other question would be, if light is able to bend,
I've heard a lot of people kind of explain this,
because I know that there's been several occasions
that they take in pictures of, you know,
like you say, would be a flat plane, something
where you're the curvature who doesn't count for,
but they say that it would if you factor in that light
is able to bend because of that atmosphere.
So that's kind of two questions wrapped up in one,
but that's the, I guess, concept.
You got a question out of that, Santos?
You had to actually ask to kind of a couple.
Yeah, yeah.
So someone would be just not being visible from outside
of this lens, like we get outside
whether there is no molecules that are able to be like life
if you want, and do it because there is,
and we can see, you know,
It landed, you know, two bend lights.
So would that account for the curvature, you know,
that bend to the per that explanation as well.
So that kind of, kind of a content, excuse me.
Well, we'll see the thing is this,
with all the photography, which does not lie,
these, no matter how much and which way the light bends,
it cannot make a globe straight and flat.
can't do that. It can play certain tricks with the eyes, which it does. You see, when we look out
in the horizon, we do see curvature. But it's curvature of retundity. If I'm standing on a big round
table, I will see curvature. But the table's flat. It's still flat. But I will see curvature. You
will see curvature everywhere because your eyes are round and you look around. You don't look
a square. If you had square eyes, maybe that would be different. I don't know. But our senses
are deceiving us. Lenses are deceiving us. Many things are deceiving us. The atmosphere,
like bending, there's refraction. You can see refraction. You just put a stick in a glass of water.
You can do these experiments at home. There are so many things. Another thing that is tricking us is
They asked the aspect of all of these disks in the heavens being
fourth-dimensional. They are projections, like the rainbow.
The rainbow is not there, but you can see it.
It's projected out there. But the guy standing next to you,
you know, only 10 meters away, he can't see it. Why?
Wrong angle. Proving that the rainbow is not there.
Physically, it has no substance. It's an effect.
It's projected on there, like you project something onto a screen, you project a picture of a
mount on a projector screen. Well the mount is not there, but you see it. And so we're
dealing with fourth-dimensional activity in the sky. Don't expect to understand everything
about the skies. But the other thing is that being invisible is another interesting fact.
Because a lot of these guys who go out, you know, high into the earth's atmosphere because you can't go into outer space
You can't pass the dome at the firmament. It's it's solid for all intents and purposes as as far as we can tell
And so when they go up there. Yes, they struggle to see stars. They struggle to see the sun sometimes
Look
Just the fact that you can't see the moon for two and a quarter days
should be impressive enough to make one understand that there's stuff up there
going on that we just cannot understand with these eyes. You can't trust your
physical senses. You can't do that. The scriptures won't exactly. Time and time
again. What is seen is temple but what is unseen is eternal. There's the
scriptures repeated over and over and over again about the you know this
world is temporal, but the world that is the commerce is eternal, it is forever
um seeing through the veil or through through Christ being beyond the veil Christ
tearing the veil to able to access those realms. I know we've been on here
a while and there's so there's so much stuff for us to get into and why have
you here. I love to pick your brain man. Do you have any stories because this is
what this is what I love. Do you have any supernatural otherworldly encounters in
your endeavors. Have you seen UFOs or angels or demonic entities or things like that in your travels?
No, but I will recount something really amazing that will impress many people who are seeking the
truth. Something that happened to me when I was flying from Perth to Melbourne in 2002,
This was around February. I wish I had my camera. I really do.
Those days, even if I did, the mobile phones in 2002 weren't as good as they are these days.
Anyway, this is what I witnessed in 2002, flying eastward,
late afternoon from Perth to Melbourne, and everyone else in the airplane,
airplane, a charted jet, witnessed the same thing. Everyone was gasping for
incredulity. There was, there was wows going on all throughout the airplane as
people were looking at the window. What did we see? Well this is what we saw.
In front of me for 180 degrees was pitch black darkness in the east where the
sun had already long disappeared. Behind us was the setting sun in Perth and it
it was broad daylight. It was just the most amazing things that we saw, the delineator
of the sun's light. We saw, we actually witnessed the limit of the sun's light. Now the
sun was still up. We can't be on a globe guys. What we saw was, you look at your windows
and everything from that mark, my perfect perpendicular right to my perfect left, everything
was black, pitch, black, dah, in front of us, in front of the plane, as we're travelling,
eastward. And everything behind us, sunsetting, was broad daylight. It was like a twilight,
but it was still daylight. You could see the contours of the mountains, everything. Now,
on top of that, there was a rainbow, a rainbow, perfectly flat, flat, from 180 degrees,
all the way behind us on the light side, behind us,
there was a rainbow on the horizon of the earth.
And it was, it was, it spanned quite a few degrees.
It was, it wasn't just a very compressed rainbow.
It was a very fattened out, broad rainbow.
And it was, so if you imagine this cup and so we are here
We are here, and we're here flying eastward, and everything in front of that spoon,
I'll put a spoon there, everything forward, that way it was black, and everything facing
me behind was broad daylight.
And the rainbow started here, and went 180 degrees all the way on a flat earth because
You can't get a rainbow.
You can not get a rainbow.
Let me try and paint what I saw.
Let me try and depict what I saw.
So,
we've got half an arch.
We're flying this way.
Everything here is black.
The rainbow was on the horizon all the way around a perfect rainbow was so
brilliant it was not hazy it was brilliant brilliant and it was along here the
rainbow all the way 180 degrees if we were living on a globe impossible
impossible. That's flat and that was thousands of miles that way and
thousands of, well let's hang on let's reduce that to hundreds. Let's say a
hundred miles that way and a hundred miles that way there was a rainbow all the
way sitting on the horizon going up into the sky so in other words it was it
was it was a vertical rainbow it has to be of course but I just have to
stress this behind us. That's what I witnessed in 2002 and at the time of course I was
a global, I had no idea how to put two and two together. Now in hindsight when I remember
that experience I realized that we can only be living on a flat plane and the fact that
I saw the delineator of the Sun's light proves to me that the Sun's light is limited.
It's not travelling 93 million miles, that is a crock.
The transverse wave cannot travel more than a few thousand miles, because it disintegrates.
Just like the transverse wave of sound, if I whisper like this, it's quite possible that
if you stand at a distance to your computer, you won't hear me, but why?
Because the sound wave disintegrates, it's a transverse wave, it's inferior to the longitude
nor white.
I can't say that I grasp it all.
People are asking me in a chat, they're like, you know, how do you call yourself
Trusika and you've dodged Flat Earth and you haven't went into Flat Earth?
Well, I think I had the perfect teacher, I was able to sit down and pick Santos Banachis
brain about flatters and be the first pretty much the first stuff that I've I've
given my attention over to it. I appreciate you coming on the show as always
brother anytime that you would like to come on and just hang out and talk with
it's flat earth or astrology demons and angels you know we like to talk about
it all man. Brother thank you so much for everything that you've done everything
that you're doing your work means so much to so many people keep the faith
keep pushing on you you're you know just what you were talking about at the
beginning a while ago like even at the very beginning of your work there's the
haters there's everybody ridicule and and if you were to listen to the
scoffers and things like that you wouldn't even be here so I think that is
an awesome example for people who are speaking their truth whether it is
flat earth or spirituality or aliens would you know whatever your passion is
and people ridicule that and scoff it look at someone like Santos who still keeps
this piece. He still keeps on keeping on and he's in encouragement to all of us out here
in the field. So thanks so much for you being who you are Santos.
Thank you, truth seeker. It's been a pleasure and I'd like to thank the listeners and encourage
them to serve truth. Truth will reward them with great riches one day. Set your free, right?
You send another truth and the truth will make you free. If you want to get free,
knows the truth, find out what that is. Just quick, before we go, are you still playing music?
Dolly. So that's how you keep your piece, right? The music, man? Yeah, definitely.
Music is so no luminescence, really. It is, I think, and I know we talked about that a little bit
the first time talking about how, you know, music heals people and even like in the scriptures,
how with those demons that saw had up on him when David would play the stringed instrument
over him.
Those evil spirits would subside man and music has played a huge part in my life and that's
awesome.
You're still doing a daily man.
Sure.
So with that, I'm going to say thanks for coming on the show, Santos and Peace and Shalom.
We'll have you back on soon, brother.
Thank you.
All right.
So I'm Shalom.
Peace, peace.
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Santos Banachi, the man himself.
So, why haven't I studied Flat Earth, why haven't I given myself over to it?
I let the man himself come on the podcast and school me on it.
A lot of stuff, man, a lot of that stuff makes sense, dude.
And I tell you what, way over my head, I'm just, I didn't even talk much, I'm just, I'm
just listening.
So can it all in, right?
That's what you're supposed to do, listen, soak it all in and then, and then make your
assumptions.
I think after a presentation like that and for those of you who are listening on iTunes
or one of the podcasting apps, if you go find the video, this is one where I will encourage
you to go back to the video where Santos actually put out the whiteboard and he showed
you the breakdowns and stuff which he's awesome at doing and so very well-spoken, very
well-studied after his craft and what he loves and holds near and dear to his heart
And I will say that it's so cool that to see how everything fits together, like he's still
referencing back to astrology, like it's still a part of his work. So people in the chat,
and people I've talked to over the years, they're just saying like, how did he get into flat earth?
How did he, you know, quit seeking truth and get in the flat earth type?
The people make these comments, right? But it's always been a part of his work if we look at
astrology, astrotheology, that's always been a part of his work. So
hats off for him doing what he's doing, and so they're still like the ridicule and stuff
in the chat and people are asking, you know, why have you strayed from flat earth, why haven't
you being a true seeker, went to the truth and truth is leading everybody to flat earth.
You got to cross that line, eventually, I finally did a show on it, right, and had the best on here
when it comes to that. So my thing is this, I did not touch it from the beginning because I
seen what it was doing to people. I seen what happened to Santos when he started talking
about flat earth and I've seen your comments. I've seen the ridicule. And it's not that
I'm scared of the ridicule or I'm scared to split the fan base or whatever the case is.
Just like I said about the homosexual stuff, people want to know my take on homosexual,
so they, homosexual, so they can determine whether they're going to be a fan or not.
And sometimes I'm not even worried about discussing for the most part.
You want to know my view on homosexuality.
You want to know my view on the flat earth so you can, and so for anybody to make any
type of assumption whether you are a scoffer or whether you are a true, I think you need
to listen to the research first before you claim anything.
So that's rule number one.
To come into it with an opinion already versus something that you've already been taught.
So what are that being said, the reason I, in a probably moving forward, I have my opinions.
But moving forward, I don't discuss it and I probably won't discuss it.
I'll leave it up to the experts.
I don't discuss it because I personally like to discuss things and I find more peace and
more fruit and discussing things that help us spiritually.
That's my calling.
My calling is not to get to the bottom of flat earth.
like this is spirituality and what can help us get through the day. What can we apply to our life,
not a conspiracy, not a theory, or just digging, but what can we find there, apply it to our life,
and it'll help us get through the day, make us better people, make me a better father, make me a
better husband, make me a better friend and those type of things. That's what I love to give my
attention to. And I say that as a blanket statement, but much of Santos's work goes into that,
when we study about the diet, you know, he touched on that, the diet, spirituality concerning that,
astrotheology and how astrology relates to your body, the different salts and the different signs
that you're born under, and different, there's different salt that you need to take into your body
to function at a hundred percent optimization. That's spirituality, that's some stuff that we need
to help us, right? We can apply it to our life. So that's why I would have somebody like Santos
on when I focus more on the spirituality because there is the spiritual side to everything that
he's talking about. There's nothing that exists in the physical realm on the earth that doesn't
have a spiritual counterpart. There's nothing that you do in the physical manifestation that doesn't
have spiritual consequences. That's in every facet, the things that we let pass before our eyes,
the things that we listen to, the foods that we eat, the words that we speak over ourselves,
the words that we let other people speak over us. All of this stuff comes in the play.
So with that being said, I touched it. I went there. Many people have been wanting me to do a show.
I think I do side with Santos, man, on a lot of that stuff. A lot of it, I do side with a lot of it.
it. I wouldn't call myself a flatter at this point. Maybe I need to do more research,
but I don't think I will. And I'm going to leave it up to the experts, and that's not
a cop out leaving it up to him. So with that, I'm going to say peace and shalom. I think
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Thank you guys from the bottom of my heart.
I love you guys so much.
And we'll be back this week.
I think tomorrow night, it's as funny.
Tomorrow night, we have somebody who is a critic
somebody who is a critic of sanitosis work and hopefully that's all that's
being said I don't hopefully we don't go into a lot of detail about that but
Danny Wilton will be on the show with us tomorrow night and I think a lot of
their stuff correlates a lot of it is speaking the same thing and maybe that's
why he's a critic I don't know we'll find out tomorrow night Danny Wilton will
be on the show we got a bunch of awesome podcast lined up doing this thing
full-time I have a lot more time and energy and effort to put in this and
And so without being said, I'm going to say peace in Shalom.
We'll holler at y'all later.
Shalom Shalom, people.
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