Practical Shamanism  Native American Spirituality  Royce Gay Interview
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Today's show, we're going to be discussing spirituality. Like I said, I got a special guest.
we've been trying to make this happen for a while, this guest goes live on Facebook and has a
pretty huge following. There's prayer groups and meditations and things like that speaking over
people. I want to say, I want to say it's deep, but it's a lot of stuff that he talks about that
was, it was common known. So like a lot of this spirituality and stuff was commonly known by our
ancestors and so he talks about a lot of it and he's he's keeping it alive and so without further ado
Royce gay, what's going on with my brother? Welcome to the show
Hey, nice to meet your brother. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, finally. I was able to connect and make it work man
Yeah
Yeah, I'm glad we are trying to get hooked up right now with my YouTube, so I can share it out on Facebook
But I'm having problems with the I've been having problems from from the moment that
Well started waking you know
It's every day battle. Let me if you're not ground it in prayer. You're not surrounded in prayer
You can easily be taken on your helmet because of the forces
I'd like to say some typical forces that are out there because of the negativity we look at we look at our history, and we look at our history and it's not a it's a
History that a lot of our ancestors are probably not proud of but because of this time right now 2017
With the Eagle and Condor prophecy. I think it's called redemption. I've called it redemption many times because of the
the profile, truth, what our ancestors are doing is sharing
the knowledge and the wisdom through science,
through meditation, through prayer, through love and life.
You know how they're able to reach out to us through,
I wanna say innate memory and that innate memory
as what is connecting the world
because my great ancestor is crazy horse.
So I have a bloodline that comes down.
And my family has for years and years
that since he's passed away,
has maintained his medicine, his bundle,
his sacred items that we've kept hidden from the world
because of the fact that when people want to steal a power.
And it was a power that was given to him at a time
to take all the Europeans off this continent with evil.
evil. And after he passed away, we had a family had a ceremony in that ceremony. He wanted nothing
but good to come to that helper, which was called the Eon. And nobody evil should touch that
to this day. And so his vision was upon great suffering. The Red makes himself rise and be
a blessing for a sick world longing for the light. And during that time, there will be people
from his band, his tribe is Teospray, who will carry that sacred knowledge. And you will unite
the world through. We are all related, you know, one heart, one mind. And I see it happening.
I honestly, I didn't think it would come to pass because in 2013, I had been paralyzed
and told I would never walk again because of the fact that I was running from my
responsibility as the next person to hold that item and I didn't want it because
of the magnitude of power and what most people wanted out of that as an enemy
habit let me get that let me take care of that and I don't want nothing to do
with it because I respected it and I feared it yeah and because of that it's
work for me. And so in our ceremony they told me they took the legs because we can no longer
wait for you no more because we have to make this prepared. You have a prepared as powerful as
going to change the world. And I cried because I think about the prayer. And the prayer was only
bringing the people together through love, you know, and compassion. And at a time when we have
all this hatred is, you know, this zash, I call it the chaos in the matrix because of at the time
when all the pieces of the puzzle were scattered and systematically they started coming together on
their own. I don't know I don't believe in dark magic but I believe in the magic of our ancestors
who come together through positivity, through bringing you and I at the four races of mankind
because in a sense this world is a melting pot of ethnicities and somewhere along the way
you haven't any quality that says that you are descended from a Native American ancestor.
And we're all from this planet. We're not from Mars or Jupiter. I like to say you're
a result. I try to keep humor into the perspective because when people get into that dog,
my love, Stigmata, oh, releasing versus science then becomes, you know, the giant drawn
online, but if we're able to use the humor and the compassion and show it all in one
big perspective, we're able to awaken a lot more people because in all reality, we are
oblivious to the fact that, you know, prayers right there. Once we acknowledge our spirits
and we feed our spirit, then the change comes within. And we have, like I was pointing
out, I don't know if you're familiar with the Wolf Spirit radio, a guy named David Corso,
and gave it for so much.
Yeah, I'm proud to come out.
I'm proud to come up as universal soldiers
that they were building.
The government was building.
And you don't see my father fits that criteria.
And he comes in that aspect where he was abandoning his orphan
and he grew up, you know, in Vietnam era,
he was a co-talker for the government.
They made me, maybe I'm a certain neighbor.
When he passed away, we got all these military honors
and we didn't even know he was in a military.
And he hit that.
And when I signed up for the first desert war,
Iraq peace says, don't go, don't go to war.
Stay home and get educated and fight your people's battle.
I'm like, what are we talking about?
And so after he passed away, then we knew
that there was something bigger coming.
You know, an aspect of religion, science.
He was smart, man.
And he was working on his dissertation.
He was a tribal laws and attorney,
treaty attorney before he passed away.
And so, 2017, with the Standing Rock and the Awakening,
it was, I've sat one night and then watched
all these people call them falling stars, right?
They're not falling stars, they're actually helpers
that were alive at one time in this world
that became energy and returned to energy,
returned to the light, to the source.
And they came back at a time to help us all.
We connect, so each one of us have these EMs.
I got my EMs, I carry my EMs
with me all the time because of the fact that it's a helper,
it's a spiritual thing, like a talisman.
And it's helped me in my journey to the so far.
I've been, when I was a standing rock,
I was able to, we're going to prayer,
and I could tell you who the fake people were,
who the real people were and who the ones,
who the infiltrators were and the detractors were coming.
And a lot of times they said,
how do you know all of that?
Well, Sarah wanted, I said,
a lot of what people go into,
Sarah wanted to talk.
You guys go to church to talk about that,
but we go into ceremony and talk to God
because of what's happening.
And it's supposed to happen this time
because people are waiting to call this country
the New Jerusalem.
And they call it the awakening, the waiting for the Messiah.
And I've always been coined this whole year.
I probably went crazy twice.
I probably almost jumped off the deep end.
I almost bit the bullet because of this overwhelming
because at one time I had 166,000 followers
that were right there in the prayer room, that would pray.
And I told people that there's a million people
that 7.4 billion people in this world.
And in this country, I wanna say there's like,
34 million people that are waking
that are understanding the fact that
we can no longer take the lifeblood from Mother Earth's
ormocal, now fossil fuel depletion, you know?
And the signs are right there because when I was telling
people. And I do the ceremonies for the ancestors and they give us the clues that we need,
but you have to do it sober. You can't be drug alcohol. You know, you can't be induced.
But I got a lot of people say ayahuasca, when they go on a guy out the trip on their
earth. Yeah. The guy up. And we do it on a red road, which is sober, drug alcohol free,
but we go into a vision quest and we're going to eat for four to seven days without food
water and so we're up on the hill praying and in my family we're going to pit and so
we're going to pit and we pray and we ask the Creator for clues the signs that the guides
tell us the guideposts that help us on our journey and it's kind of weird because everything
just kind of hit and we were going to stop up pipeline and we turned out to find you know all
these other things the child pornography ring you know the corruption in the government all the
the collusion, corporate trying to put readers.
And you know, I was even caught,
it was even said that we were at a time
where what we call it was called in Trump,
the Antichrist.
And so I've met so many people that had told me,
you know, you're in Archangel called Ariel
from the future, I'm like, no, I don't wait.
So I started having these weird dreams
where these people were screwing these tank wings on my back.
It got crazy because, you know,
listen to it every day. We told that the Masahu, the Messiah, and all these things that are coming,
are corn sisted with now. And, you know, I did the my brother with the love and light warriors out,
I call him the family. We did the, we did it during the the night before the eclipse. We did a,
Um, we did this song, the slow song, uh, it's called L3 6 9.
So when I seen my, I resonated heart, heart, heart, heart, heart,
my converse, I had a higher, a vibrate, a higher level.
And so when I was singing and it came back to frequency at L3 6 9.
And that's new to me because I've never heard anything about that.
So there was, it was pretty awesome.
But the thing was everything fell in the place.
And so it's just kind of amazing how awakening just kind of spread
to all these other.
So I don't judge nobody.
I'm not saying you can't do it this way.
There's no right way or wrong way.
I'm going to let this all, you know,
people call them hoppers,
but I call it, it's a matching room,
different vibes and different religion,
different views.
Well, it's not really religious.
It's a spirituality.
Yeah.
They call it hopper.
I've never even heard that term.
That's interesting.
I'm probably one of those.
But my sister said it was a hopper.
We've heard a hopper.
So now it's,
you know,
it's not okay here.
But see, it's,
whatever works.
Yeah, great thing because we all have a different like I've met so many people that have fallen out from the church
Yeah, and there's some stuff in the churches that work and why not hold on
Yeah, and so you know, I don't ask people you know, I'm not telling people to step away
I got judgment on saying you have to do it this way. Yeah. Yeah, and I was taught that my uncle always taught me sitting on your girl
we have a
You have this road that was chosen for you, and I ran from it because of the responsibility and going into a sweat lodge at an early age, you know, and that's become my life.
So I was taught one way or so when these other ways come in and they want to mash, I'm always open-minded because in your reality, the aspect is there's some truth to everything.
thing. There's a lot of truth when we look down at it. Okay, one of these persons told me,
why would you go to a psyche? They use the pendulum when they're feeding off of your energy,
because of your energy, you emit a higher frequency. So your energy, you're reading off the charts,
and they're reading your vibe. And they already know, we already know all of the answers to
everything that we're seeking and so what we're seeking is truth and
knowledge and wisdom and we already have it. It's still in us and it's great
thing it's a great thing because all that comes into play when we see why we
want to ascend to a higher level of consciousness you know because that's
all that's it's every year as I say the earth evolves so there's a human race
you know and so we are ascending too as well so I know we were talking about
before we went live being led by our ancestors and being watched over and being back
and then so a lot of people are getting this message to return to the indigenous ways and return to
earth take your shoes off put your feet on the ground and return to the earth talk a little bit
about this calling we have and most people don't know what it's coming from whether it's our ancestors
or the angelic beings or the star star beings or whatever and I think it's a little bit of all of
it. But talk a little bit about the ancestral calling us back to the original religion, the religion
of the earth. Well, what I was some, what we were sharing was a lot of our answers were energy,
we're light, you know, and when we are born, you know, my brother just passed away,
my brother passed away like a year, he's going on a year, he's a helper now, he's a light,
he's a little energy, and he comes and helps a lot of these people cross over. And when he passed
the way right before standing up you know you got in this bad mix and he
ended up sundats and forming because I couldn't send that because I couldn't
walk so he says brother I'm a dance for you and right before you dance he
came he told me so then I just wish people in this world would just get
along but you know it'd be no judgmental people that we could all have you
know the ability because he will even up the prison for drugs and all so
turning and looking at his life in perspective on how he died
and how I was upset and we were going to go and take care of some business in my uncle
said, you know, a whole lot of that field because pretty soon they're going to be called.
A lot of people are going to be called to pray and heal a lot of people. And that was
standard. And so that standard, I called it the eight fire that was burning inside of us,
that is internally, it's like the light switch. Because a lot of who are people we've,
We've probably been so ingrained in, you know, what we thought, you know, we've been taught
for years, you know, as you do it this way, it has to go, you have to go to church,
you have to pay your company, you're going to be paying any duels or any penance.
And so they kind of like fell away from the church and fell away from their belief of a
spiritual aspect of a, of what a higher power is our God.
So when Stagger Out came, and as Native Americans were talking about, you know, spiritual
aspect of, you know, spirit, creator, you know, the source. And then a lot of people
had awakened. And the message was to return to, you know, simple way of life, you know,
stepping away from, you know, all that corporate tyrannical greed and wanting to go and return to
having simple life, you know, living off the land, you know, see, I started this, well, I went to
a ceremony, I went out to Stenara, I went to Stenara, and then right before the December 4th
deadline. I went to Washington. So I spoke with a lot of the senators and
legislators and Republicans in Washington. And we did a, we're probably in the
five day that week we were there. We probably hit every, every state senator that
was there. And we talked about the deadline. And I had said, I'm not worried
about the name. I'm worried about all of my relatives and all my relatives
are the four races of mankind because we were all together at this time, you
know, we was a colony and then brought us all together. And you know, I have a
home. I can go home to my home. So other relatives that dropped everything left
everything behind travel from all of the miles away have nor to go. Those are my
family that I'm worried about. So they they'll buy partisan letter and I was
on away home and lay over in Ohio and then I heard the news and said a great
grant some crazy or a season of Washington. There's not one fame and fortune
but it's worried about to disseminate for deadline for his people. And from
then on it just kind of like blew up home and then to cut off the date all of
that stuff that happened, you know, a little reprisal
where everybody got to celebrate.
And then they came in, they came in hard and fast,
you know, kind of went in everybody out of there.
And there was a lot of finger pointing,
a lot of blaming, but the same thing
about their main was people forgot.
It was a prayerful and peaceful.
If we remained prayerful and peaceful,
everything that we had worked for
was gonna be restored to us.
And so wanting to share that knowledge and that wisdom
with the world, because it's simple, you know,
So if we have a spiritual way of life and care for what games are, if you don't worship
or it's all your spiritual aspect and spiritual meaning, you still have a belief in that
higher heart.
So having that simple way of life is something we've been called, we were in the American
but we've been called, they don't worship this for years because of our really attacked
spirit.
Yeah.
So I was talking about the universal soldier with David, so I never gave it, so I did
show a whispered radio and they asked me, have you met a guy named David?
No, I don't know anybody named David. Oh, hold on, wait a minute, we get a ceremony.
I met a guy named David. He said, he was sorry. And she said, yeah, his name is David.
Chris Hall, he spoke highly of you. And 2017 was a year of this great awakening where a lot of
people are going to be awakened because of the earth changes. And a lot of people are going to
return to sustainable communities because of all that GMOs and genetic and modified organisms and
and all the other stuff that we were losing our ability
to fight off diseases on our home.
We have holistic healing.
A lot of these plants that are out there,
if we were able to go and plant our own,
I've been chewing on home show up for three years.
I haven't had any cold, I haven't had any major illnesses,
other than my spinal injury.
I've got some.
I've got some that I actually chewed on last week.
Yeah, the first time I did it,
I actually bought it at the powwow
and we had some congestion going on.
And I got high off of it.
I got, I was walking around.
I was like, Oh, this is weird.
Let me save this man.
I was like walking around the powwow buzzing.
Like zoom zoom zoom.
Oh, this is some powerful potent stuff, man.
It's really strong because it's me and Smell
like, let our salary, our girlfriend,
I could tell when you're in the ocean
because you smile up to our house.
And it's like garlic, you know, it's a holistic killing.
It's it's upper respiratory.
It was, it was used highly during when they were putting
And a lot of these, I guess they were spraying a camera off and a lot of these, it contains
you.
When you're spraying a lot of that stuff in the air, flute more people out there, you
stand up.
If we are able to return to that type of way of life, we would all be able to, because
of the stories from the Bible, the stories from our ancestors, oh yeah, there it is.
So we're able to live according to, you know, our ancestors and our ancestors were
my girlfriend. She's she's a
Nahuas, she's a patchy and she's Mexican and she's never known ruined to a ceremony and they told her in a sermon that
You guys are from the Eagle and the Condor Nation because during this this prophecy and she still has trouble with accepting it
But a lot of the things that she has saw come to pass come to fruition
It's kind of like a major because of the prayers, the ancestors that are there on the other side and they're there
You know when you die physically a physical death is nothing but a spiritual rebirth
And so my brother is always with us and so we always feed him we feed him. I put out my little water
I got water cherry watery, so
He's always hungry when knowledge is spirit is when you acknowledge that
that ancient custom.
That's interesting, there's a bunch of,
there's even some ancient Jewish stuff.
And I have some friends who were into Messianic Judaism
and it's weird because when they,
it seemed weird to us as an outsider,
but as we went over to their house to eat,
they would make a plate in a table, at this table
and they would put food on it and everything for,
whether it was the spirit I think they did it
for another do it during Hanukkah, I believe,
I believe it's the Hanukkah or the Passover meal.
I can't remember right off,
but they actually do it for Elijah out of the Bible.
And they have a ritual where the kids go to the door
and look for Elijah to come.
And they always make a table for him at their gatherings,
which is, I'm saying very similar to what you're talking
about to acknowledge and and it almost sounds like would you know in the hood
where you have a 40 and you pour out some liquor for the homies you can almost
see it kind of reflecting back to that a little bit too. Yeah it's kind of an
ancient custom but in our ceremonies that where we told was that when the
ancestors when you acknowledge your ancestors is when they're really happy
because they crossed over and if you think about our history there's a lot of
our relatives that have taken their lives to completion to suicide to alcohol
drugs. And so that spirit got a stuck here in this plane is that negative energy. And so when
you go back to the origins of the church, we have, I want to say, the run with the snake's
I've been over here on the Nephilims and the snakes where I would smile, understand the Catholic
Catholicism. And the other one was the moors. So the people of the earth.
And so when you think about it, that ancient war and the good between light and darkness is still there.
But yeah, you know, we say whatever was meant to mean and darkness will always come to the light.
And that's what's happening. It's coming to the light because it's just the creators.
And we call them one contact, which is the great mystery. We don't know if it's a god is a woman or a man,
but we believe it's a duality of all things that get in the game.
most likely, right? Having that acknowledgement and saying, okay, when I die, I want to go back to my
accesses because I want to be able to come back and be reborn again because we have that
cycle of life where we get to come back and experience that according to how we've lived our
life. And so a lot of our ancient teachings to start to put the star knowledge, the seven sisters
of the police, the opioid chakra, we're heading out and give you the star nations. And right now,
our ancestors are walking with us. And that's the crazy thing because they have to come down
here and crack the whip and show us how it's supposed to be done. Yeah. And they're making it
happen. When it comes to the star beings and things like that, which I know every religion, every
people group talk about the beings that came from the stars wherever they came as seeds to actually
see us here or put us here or show us the way and teach us indigenous spirituality from the
beginning. And I know the Native Americans have a lot of that within their tradition as well.
Have you ever had any, I know you said you've seen those stars that look like shooting stars or
even look like satellites and things like that. Have you ever had any encounters with these beings
in the flesh or the ancestry? Oh yeah, all the time, all the time. That's funny all the time.
But the first time I've sung that, I took my right of passage, which was Sonnet, you know,
vision quest, fasting, and vision quest, and stepped into this role that I have now as
a spiritual advisor.
And I don't like to be called a medicine man because a medicine man is too polite because
okay, you have your disc, but then you live by that and you go and do that, call myself
a spiritual advisor because a lot of people say you are who you are because you don't
acknowledge it, but we see the healing that you've caused, so a lot of people, my first
Sundance I went and Sundance and it's offering a flash you know you go on four days
You step into the sicker circle and you're in the living world and the spirit world and your ancestors come
And you watch how you prefer how you're carrying yourself in your prayers and everything you're doing
How you're carrying yourself and you're leading by example see crazy horse. I asked his sir
He was the norm a lot of these people don't understand yet
he was a happy, he was like,
it's in the name of the strategy.
So when you come with the guy,
and no hair, no eyes,
he's not a full blood of a coat that he's happy.
And so that manifests into what we have going on today,
a lot of mixed brains.
And so all these other warriors,
little woman, great cloud,
seeding bull, gray eyes,
and all these ones were all the norm
who had done the same thing that crazy horses,
but they chose to speak more crazy horses
because of his task and his color,
It's complex, it's different, different, different jelly.
So learning that Sundance and Sweating and going into that
Sundance, I went home to my, after my first Sundance,
I went home and my girlfriend, my kid's mother at the time,
woke me up and she said, look at all these lights.
And they're already little like lightning bugs.
They were blue and green.
They just filled the room.
There were thousands of them.
They just filled the whole room.
And they were all over everywhere.
And I was out and cold.
I was really tired because if that's a four days
some sun down, no full water.
It's a 12 day ceremony, preparation,
dirt and sun, that's an actor.
And I told her, so yeah, those are the ancestors.
She said, what?
How do you know it's because they're here?
They're really happy because I completed my first sun
nets and it just got, you know, the things for phenomenon
because you would never see these things in your lifetime,
but yeah, you see them coming to you on that level.
And it's just one of those things that you
surreal because you can't, you know, you're like, hey, this is what I saw, all these
lines by saw. And as the years went by, you know, we're going to ceremony, they
come, we come on the path and they explain, they speak to the language. You know, my
brother never spoke with Kota, but when he passed away, we went to a ceremony, and
he speaks fluent in the Kota, it's the language of the ancient, ancient, you know,
ancestors. And so he's in their speaking hall, do you need to go,
And my child, Chaitan Kodana, Dokki,
I have one of Ola Koda, Loyo Chihid,
and he says, he's hungry, what can I do for you?
And so I looked at my mom and just how the sea speed
would be a coach down when he never spoke
a coach down when he was alive, you know?
And she said, it's our innate memory,
it's the language within the language.
And so a lot of these people say, it's the language,
that's within the language that we're able
to connect to our answers to.
So yeah, having that experience, one night right before
2017, right before January 2015, I sat and watched about 300 little falling stars come
and it came and it showed it came.
I have an article in the Media Food Magazine, the 1974 edition of page 94 about traditional
I'm going to quote the government and it talks about the time before the
Standing Rock. It talked about, you know, see, I wrote the article before
Standing Rock. And then when Standing Rock came, then that article just like,
hey, man, he's like a prelude to what happened. And everything that you
talked about is happening. Where do you get this information? And I was
talking for my ancestors. No, because they served with us. We're
supposed to have that knowledge and share it because it's pertinent to
what's going to happen, and then they used to come, like with, with, we call it spiritual
or wallpaper, when the sun, the eclipse or eclipse, no means ever seen that, no one's ever
seen that before. But when that solar eclipse came, I was counting Einstein's theory of
relativity, you know, time to equal time distance and ratio, and I kept counting. And
when I counted it was five, and I told people, okay, so we're going to have five natural
could cash your fees. That's going to happen within this time period. And the hurricane,
right? And so all of that stuff that this kind of came, and it was just people looking
like, wow, this is crazy. I said, well, it's called wallpaper. It's called spurts lock.
It was supposed to happen. It's supposed to give us the time. This is the time to change
the time to look at our life. And basically look within our self. And this is how we want
to live, we're going to see more low earth changes if we don't, but it's just a whole
lot of, you know, it's an opening to a new era of wind and solar energy, stepping away
from that fossil field depletion because we have to let her hail and let her revive and regenerate
and then we go back and then you start thinking, how did these ash takes through all these
you know, sacrifices, you know, blood sacrifices over the back then.
And then we're at just fine time where it would be gruesome and be unrealistic to do that.
Yeah.
Well, essentially, if you want to call it the New World Order or whatever, there's, I mean,
they're still doing these sacrifices through the wars and through the famines and taking
over some of the other countries and stuff like that.
So there's a lot of research that the draft and the wars and things like that are essentially
These mass sacrifices that they're doing, like 9-11
and some of the different catastrophes.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You bet, man, because right before I started,
I was sitting on like 250 different groups on Facebook.
Everyday I wake up one day,
I accidentally, I don't know what was put me on
according to Southern Command.
Southern Command was a government law school.
And it was a government law school that was watching
people trying to get, you know,
they were looking at, they were looking,
So I had like 269 militia groups,
3% is what I'm coming down with this.
And I'm like, hey, I can't make that choice about that.
I'm just in person, I make some prayers.
And I'm like, oh, you're the voice of this movement.
And I ain't no voice.
I don't want you talking about it.
And she says, no, because we've been following you.
And we know.
And so I've met people from Freemasons, the Illuminati.
Illuminati told me she's, you know,
we have people out of protecting you and watching only
because they've tried for years to manipulate your language,
your ceremonies, they can do it.
And they've even tried to clone native people,
but they can't because you can't.
And so they've gone to all this gruesome, horrific shit
to try to clone something that is God's law.
And so it's never gonna happen according to how they want it.
But what's happening,
at these people said we've been watching it for years
and we know how you open up this different realm
of awakening people to prayer,
to Facebook and you open up that sacred space.
you have awakened millions and so I take that as something humbling and not to get
became out when it starts having don't get big hit it because we humble and so
I went on you know what was really more was real more profound was all these
rappers used to sing about murder killing and that's how I can't drink my
thing and be humble but I told my kid ran this dude it's crazy ran because
we're talking about Iraq and he's sitting there singing but I did meet a lot of
These rappers who came to stand up
under disguise of anonymous, right?
Using different names and so on.
I know they know I'm there like the weekend.
And I saw a lot of stuff and it's just like
to sit back and you're thinking about man,
how can we as a human race evolve
when we have so many detractors?
But yet we look at the things that we have going for us,
the prayer, the unity and acknowledging that we're all related.
That's all we have.
we have that faith, compassion, and that love, you know?
And so we all come from different, you know, it's not,
it's not specific to Native people, it's all people, you know?
So we all are going through the same shit,
but it's different races and different calibers,
but we're all able to realize that you know there's an awakening
happening and we're all part of that awakening.
I think we should all just go with it because we are opening
that that realm has never been dealt with.
No, because, you know, what has a government done with it?
They put fear and us.
They told us how to live this way.
They told us how to eat it.
Oh, don't go that part of it.
But because you're not welcome there, right?
You can't see here, type of mentality that once we let down
those barriers across where all human beings were all like
when all probably a lot of us, Genghis Khan.
Genghis Khan was the dude.
I read up a lot, my sister's opening up to Genghis Khan.
This dude has so many kids out there.
you know, that full-man chewed up and so he's made so many kids in his life. How many of
are we actually related, you know, so I just do a lot of reading, a lot of research. Actually
working on my master's program, closing up on my master's and I'm seven credits into my master's
program. But it's been pretty tough with this whole year and with a lot of my friends say, you know,
that Dakota acts, the pipeline, the Apple,
and British, they know who you are.
So they're circumventing what you're doing.
They're sitting on a smeared campaign.
They try to come and give you your account.
And so I've been trying to find a different platform
where we can use and utilize, YouTube's a good one.
Oh, they're cracking down on YouTube right now, man.
Bad.
So trying to get people,
but like I say, they can't stop the prayer.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's opened a lot of people,
waking a lot of people,
and I've had another brother who told me,
he said, you know, we can get you on a grand scale
of, you know, we can do like a series, you know,
all these other platforms that we were looking at.
Yeah.
So that was an option, but, you know,
I had to step away because, you know, my messenger,
get like 3,000 messengers a day, messages a day,
and I kind of it's overwhelming when you start being,
thinking, you know, and after a while, I know, and you got work to do, right?
Yeah, I work to do. And then like I was saying, I have four grown kids, basically,
getting going and off on your own, and you know, living and raising three dogs, I got
$3 to take care of also. And so it's, it's a pretty good challenge. You know, I'm always
doing something, but I'm never, I'm never really stagnant, you know, so I see on the moon
Yeah, but I do know wherever I go. I have my ancestors with me. And so that's the thing. They're always with me
And when I was going back to the
Illuminati, I was a good friend who was an ex was part and he's opened me up to a lot of stuff and a lot of these
readings and teachings and stuff and the ritual sacrifices you were right when you hit on 9-11, you know
that was up, you know, something that
happened because they're needing to do the masks.
Yeah, trying to make packs with these entities, man.
These ancient gods of old, man, some really dark stuff.
I've got some sage here, man.
I want to see if we can burn some sage and I know that you speak in the native language.
If you would speak a blessing over us and everyone who's watching and I'll burn some sage
And you can actually go into some detail about, you know, the power of burning sage and
dealing well.
Okay.
Okay.
So, yeah.
So, we use, you know, just like the Bible that when they, when they wipe Jesus down with
mirror and frankincense and all these, all these senses to cleanse his body, our ancestors
have always told us, say, see their sweet grass, all of that is to cleanse his spirit as
well.
Open-way and change weight on dark dark images and dark forces.
And so we always do a prayer with that.
And we asked the team guys who was there
grandfathers to protect us and watch over.
So I'll say per-ho to guys who are yelling,
wanting a while to complete the lecture.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
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So that you can have strong prayers, strong mind, and continue to do the work that you do.
And as the ancestors protect you from that darkness.
your ancestors, the star nations will walk with us. So we're all connected. We're all connected
source and source, the acknowledgement of our prayers and the people in the language
continue to grow spiritually and we have to understand as human beings, we have to let go of
that instant gratification that we all seek, that sexual gratification, that monetary gratification,
that power gratification and start looking at the spiritual aspect of, you know, the holistic healing,
the holistic, the spiritual, the divine spirit, the creation, because we are energy,
and we die, we return to energy. People in the chat now, and that's a beautiful prayer, that's
what everyone's saying, it's a beautiful prayer, and they were saying that the language sounds
a lot like ancient Hebrew, there's a lot of connections there. I don't know if people have
done the research, but about the Native Americans being actually from the tribe of Gad that are
mentioned of in the Holy Bible. Do you know any references or any connections there between
David and Hebrew? I've been I've been told I've been called Gad before, so I've heard you have a
a lot of people that say, you know, you're from the tribe of gadgets and so it's like
this, the way I was told was that we were at one landmass at one time and we were all connected
and then that retirement earth evolved, broke apart. So a lot of those tribes that were separated
maintaining that spiritual connection and spiritual and that ancient language is what we still
have. And like I was told, a lot of people that don't understand the language will never get
the language, but if it's inside your innate memory that you connect it to that language,
the whole world is still in the world of Coca-Cola, Coca-Cola or Stello, and so you will learn
the language to speak it well, and a lot of the people that catch it fluently, you know, some
people just catch it. Yeah. And it's, I've heard a lot of the coincidence, the everything, the similarities,
and like I was saying, I get a lot of people that somebody had told me, I had a bunch of people
speak in Hebrew one day and shalom and I never learned shalom and I look at that
oh well it's crazy because these are some of the the look at the core and it has a
lot of a lot of our art excuse me I look at the language that is embedded in my
country so I could see that I could say that I would love to find out yeah no
there's a lot of research I actually did this study in some years ago I'm
I'm actually a Creek, Creek Indian as well, native,
which is the Muskogee Creek related to the Seminoles as well.
So we're gonna be going to the powwow.
So whenever this is released today,
I'm gonna release this on Thanksgiving.
So we'll be at the powwow.
And I wanted to speak about something, man.
Because I remember,
cause I got into some really dark witchcraft as a teenager, right?
And I got into a place I was in over my head,
dealing with foreign entities and stuff that wanted to possess me and things like that.
So I had to get out of that and I started going to church and I went into church and
I found freedom in Christ and I renounced everything, tried to go to the powwow, went to
the powwow that year and I felt weird.
They were chanting, playing the drums, dancing, eagle feathers and I felt really weird
and I got overwhelmed and I had to leave and it was because I was just fresh out of like
this crazy occultism, right? And it was so like incense sage, anything reminded me of the darkness
that I was involved with. So then I go back, maybe 10 years later, I go back to the powwow. And
after having what felt like a bad encounter, I go back and I have this spiritual awakening at the
powwow when the natives are dancing and the the wind is blowing and I'm meeting all these spiritual
So people, I would just begin to weep and have this,
I felt like I was, I was led there by my ancestors
trying to show me what we have left of the ancient religion
and this is, this is what we have and how precious it is
and precious it was.
And so that was a part of my spiritual awakening
to take it a step deeper.
Just talk about how there's just this urge to return
to the ancient ways and there's so many people.
A lot of them don't know where to go.
That's why podcasts like these and these interviews are so powerful because we're giving people a piece of the puzzle, a piece of the breadcrumb, this is what works and this is, this is my practice, because a lot of people are private with their practice.
So actually talking about some of the spirituality behind the practices. So talk a little bit about the returning to the ancient path and there's so many scriptures in the Bible that talk about returning to the ancient path.
Yeah, you know, I wanted something that you said being in a dark place, you know, a lot of us
We I guess we invoke either the good or the bad spirit, but I've helped since standard. I've helped a lot of people
Find their ancestral lineage through through ceremony to prayer or just talking like this on the phone
And a lot of people have YouTube videos out there that people felt compelled to contact me and I always tell them this says, you know
You were called because your ancestors have turned on the light switch and you've had
this virtual awakening and you know inside, when I tell you, like I was talking about
the psychic, I said, every answer that you are seeking, you already have within you.
So you just have to activate the right switch and when you go into prayer and meditation
And you burn the sweet guys, you burn sage and you ask the ancestors to help you bring clarity.
When you know who you're descended from, they'll show you. And most people want to run and
rejoice to the highest mountain and scream out that they're native, right? Most of the time when
it was really wrong for us to be Native Americans, a lot of our ancestors had moved away from
from the reservations and moving to the bigger inner cities
and become immigrants.
And so it was easier for them to become an immigrant
and say I would make an American
because of the Indian Extermination Act
and the Indian Reorganization Act.
And so what Standard Rock has brought
that around 180 to a point where it's okay now
to say that this is who I am.
Finding that lineage is going back to your great grandparents.
You can go back as far as to your great grandparents
and then contact the office of Indian Trust in Texas.
And, you know, they will help you.
A lot of times with a lot of people to contact and they say,
let's start out with the Lakotas
because the Lakotas were the biggest tribe
that were moved out to the trail of tears
to Oklahoma and the Florida.
And so we have that, those two, from our oral history,
we have those two trelloteers and then we can go and say, okay, well,
this is my great grandparents and then we can go and contact the tribes here in
South Dakota through the lineage and give them in the birth and death,
birth, date or death. So we don't even know that.
And so you just give them your ancestor, right? Yeah.
The last name. And then I'll take that and put it in the system and say,
okay, well, we have this name, this name, they moved away at this time.
And so it's the starting point for a lot of our people.
And I always tell people I just don't give up because it's if you know inside it
You have that native ancestry that that's all that you need, you know, I'm pretty soon
I said to be real the blood degree is a pedigree
That blood quantum is just a pedigree, you know, and that's how the Native Americans look at it as
Oh, I'm three forces. I'm a full bud. Yeah, I always argue with my relatives
You know, if you're a real full bud, then we have an essential and set ancestral lineage coin on here
But if you have a cut in your three-fourths and quarter,
it got to be somewhere along the line
that we have always traded
and we had in the trade commerce from Florida
all the way out to California,
way before Columbus, you know,
way before with the counts.
We were trading into counts.
So they intermarried.
So there it goes, your bloodline,
your blood degree, your bloodline,
it's a matter because as long as you say that you're native,
you're native, I believe, you know.
But I've awakened a lot of people,
but I still have people in my community saying,
I'm a fool, but okay,
while you're full blood, I'm going to have that.
But we look at it, that blood degree in that,
so that tribal enrollment number.
Yeah.
That's a better degree, man.
It's a better degree.
Look, man, my mom is on the road my,
but me and my brother and sister are not.
All my cousins are, my mom is.
And the Creek Nation down here,
they take care of them like big time.
Like for your birth, they give you money to live on.
send your kids to school, like give you a lot of money to live on and they just voted
on it.
If they were going to open it up to first generation descent and our whole life, you know,
our family and friends, like we can't wait till they open it up for you guys and they
voted on it and everybody said no because they were scared that it was going to take their
money.
So they didn't want they didn't want to open it up to the next generation, which, which
is me and my brother and sister.
Yeah, well, it's kind of sad, well, there's a lot of good things too, because, you know,
I've been paralyzed, I was in prison, you know, and because of medical malpractice and
the doctors that didn't have medical license that were opening my body up and cutting my
shit away, you know, we sued and we have a lawsuit settlement here and coming up.
They want to settle out of court because, and I'm looking at, you know, a lot of money,
But my relatives in Minnesota were in shock apiece.
You know, shock wee tribes, one of the richest tribes in the nation.
And so I went out to one weekend, stayed with my sister.
And I wanted to see because I was confused.
You know, if I want to do it to be real, there's not a lot of us that
practice are ceremonies anymore.
That's the real deal stuff.
Yeah.
And so I was questioning myself, okay, so I'm not going to become one of these
Hollywood Indians and move away from the reservation and lived that life like
my relatives, let's go to shock me and take a look.
You know, the people men have been in dollar homes,
porches, you know, all these things.
They weren't studying elsewhere at large, yeah.
Oh, there was no dang sweat lodge in any of those houses in any of that community.
And so my sister was going on and on and told my sisters, you know,
before I came here today, you know, I cried.
Because I do a lot of crying and praying because I could fill my answers to you.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
And I wanted to step away from the ceremonies and after I've seen how these people,
my relatives live all I wanted to do was help them get back to their their origins to help
reconnect with their spiritual way of life and I ask her and I was going to walk away from
the ceremonies but I'm not letting it out I'm going to stay there because I'm glad of who I am
because it's helped shape who I am I want to reach out to that tribe and see if they can allow
me to come in there open up a sweat lodge and reconnect and teach these brothers how to pray
because a lot of them were the addiction you know the addictions are killing our people and what
that does is leaves a negative spirit here stuck in this route. Yeah. And so how are we getting
home? Yeah. And then we wonder how a lot of our our relatives are being born, a lot of our
ancestors are being born in other races. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean so many
people will talk about soul contracts coming back. You know, yeah, I was just Native American
down the black person. No, no, I'm quite afraid. Okay, well, you're my relative. Come on in. Yeah,
Yeah, there's a lot of truth to that.
Yeah.
There's a bunch of questions in a chat room.
And I've got something I'm going to ask you too.
If you've got a few more minutes, I wanted
to know if you have had any encounters
with psilocybin, if you've had any encounters
with other Alzheimer's rooms.
No, OK, I haven't used any drugs in alcohol for 27 years.
And because of my nerve damage, I've had a brother that came to me.
He says, hey, brother, I've been studying mushrooms are good for nerve damage.
Because I haven't been able to make love to my girlfriend for years.
And I was like, oh, shit, let's try it.
Right.
I couldn't wait to help you walk.
It's kind of reboot your system.
Yeah.
And so I jumped on it.
And you know, I'm just sitting there doing homework.
And it was a time when Russia or Syria and United States are going to go to war.
right. And so this is like three, four months back. And anyway, I just like boom and hit and I had
the works trip ever. I started out as a bad trip. Yeah. Um, I've seen the, the chandeliers call,
and I live right next to a, a train depot. So the whole ground was like,
but that time, that time I thought we got hit with the nuclear blast. I couldn't breathe. And I
I have this KFO which is a leg brace that's I'm encased in and I'm telling my son I can't walk you know help me I can't walk
I'm thinking I'm a walking right
What the hell is this thing going on my legs I check it out but it's out of what I couldn't walk and you know I said I think
Oh, you know I'm paralyzed so I'm stuck so I've got went outside and reconnected with the trees and
grass and put my feet on the ground
Everything turned colorful
change all of a sudden and I can just hear everything I can hear. I can hear the
plant nation's talking. No, they were telling me that I needed to slow down and
needed to have it learn patience and I needed to I needed to trust. You did get a
lesson out of it. Yeah. I didn't have I have trust issues. I don't trust being in
prison. You don't trust anybody. Yeah. My brother just got out after eight years.
Yeah, it's in man. And so having trust and having that prison mentality, they told me I need to learn trust and I need to reconnect myself to my spirit because I was so disconnected with the environment with the spiritual spirit world.
So that wasn't awakening, but that was the first time I tried and that's probably the last time. And with my spiritual walk.
I kind of like threw that away because the my show was so bad to reconnect and you know
Yeah, I learned how to achieve those stages without without that help exactly so
For us guys we do the ceremony every month we go to our we go to our my uncle and puts all this out
We do a ceremony where we offer
We talk with the spirit world and they come in and they help us and we just did a ceremony for my cool
We need a kidney transplant
We helped him pray for him, and he hasn't had a transplant yet, but it was because
his diabetes.
There's a cure out there.
We have a cure out there for our diabetes.
It's just that once we start to look at it for our own personal need and not a monetize
it, then it will work for us because the moment people want to monetize it, if you
We have a link about it.
We're all broke at a different level.
You know what I mean?
The upper class is broke, we're borrowing from Peter to PayPal, the lower class is broke,
borrowing from Peter to PayPal.
But it's just doing the right way to patience behind and sobriety.
That's it.
Adam and Chad wants to know if you've ever had any encounters with different beings on
or innovation, he says like sheep with human faces or skin walkers,
real tall cloaked beings or Sasquatch.
I know the skin, I know the skin walkers is a big one that we hear about.
Yeah, we have skin, well, it's for different tribes,
like they're basically medicine people, you know, they're,
I guess you will call them in the name.
I want to say not, Lee, I think it is a spiritual being.
Well, I say medicine person who kind of like feeds off of your fears,
you know, and so he can change ship change, yeah, yeah, yeah, our our culture, the coat of philosophy,
we have the idea of Bigfoot as being a spiritual spirit. Yeah, so it's a spirit that was
late to rest a long time ago. And when they dug up his bones in a Pacific Northwest,
they make the latest bones to rest and do a ceremony and very good up. And so that's the spirit
that they see going around but going up I've always had this um I don't know if you've had the
dreams too of a disc but we're flying on the disc and in that disc there's these tall beans of
Bigfoot and my grandmother and I want to say ET or space green um I don't know those are our origins
or what but I've had those dreams before I've had them a couple of times but I will share a
I want to say an experience I took a friend of mine she was going with she was
going to bring she had a tumor in her brain and I took her out on his plane on a
nice summer night and I watched this honeycomb come down. It was a honeycomb
shape spirit spirit it was our ancestors yeah they were coming out at the top of
the honeycomb and these little green lights are coming and they were going
back in the bottom of the honeycomb and they came and danced around us and one of them
most of her mother and I told her, you know, you got a relative that's right here in front
of you.
She wants to let you know that she's been with you this whole time and she's going to
help you through your ordeal and she's helped her and I think right now she's going through
some reoccurring lumps or something.
Yeah.
But there's all type of phenomena that we all hear about and when you see it, it's kind
I don't want to acknowledge it, but I haven't had anything out of the ordinary.
You saw that in, like I was saying, the dreams, you know?
Yeah, definitely.
Mercy wants to know, says, I have indigenous Native American ancestry.
I want to know about dream catchers.
I have a few of them, but some people say don't put them up because they're say, say,
tanic wants to know our view on that.
Okay.
There's different tribes that use dreamcatchers.
Our tribe, we use a dreamcatcher to catch a bad dream.
If you're having a bad dream,
we put the dreamcatcher up above your bed.
And then the belief is that night, it'll catch that dream.
And so in the morning time, you take your sage
and you bring your sage, you put out your tobacco,
and then you say a prayer that you let that release
that bad dream from your spirit, from your body,
in your mind and it goes into that dream catcher
and then you can take that dream catcher out
and burn your sweet grass off your tobacco
and set that dream free because it's,
I wanna say it's our fears, you know what I mean?
I gotta just, you know what I mean?
You haven't, and it's some of them are messages.
Yeah, even the bad ones, yeah,
and that's the thing about learning from them all.
The good and the bad, like you were saying on the trip,
you started out having a bad trip
and you had to get through the darkness,
but it ended up, you connecting with nature
and getting the messages, like, hey,
all this anxiety you been dealing with,
it's time to slow down the voice.
You got to be in the moment, brother.
You know, quit thinking ahead, that type of deal, man.
That was the message.
I was thinking a lot because overwhelmed
with a lot of stuff because, you know,
because telling my, I tried to protect my family
because of, you know, when you get,
when you become a public profile
a high-pile-file figure.
Exactly.
You bring a lot of people around your sacred space.
Yeah.
You try to protect my girlfriend and my kids.
And, you know, I've done a great job,
but it just becomes overwhelming sometimes
because they come, hey, I'm coming on and visit you,
all right, they come with a good heart.
But they want to see, I've had people come out
that wanted to experience what it was like being
in need of American people.
Yeah.
They have money, have $1,000 stolen around money, you know?
And I'm like, wow, I thought you couldn't help me out.
My family, I appreciate that.
One of my friends, Kimball, she lost her credit card.
And it took advantage of some other guy
I found in a credit card, one of the shopping spree.
But she was a good person, so she just
came out to experience how the name community was,
because different parts of the country,
you don't get that experience, you know?
You don't have to know even business people
or tribes in that area, so they come looking
for in the wake of me.
It's virtual game.
I know it's a form of tobacco and mixed with some
saps and some bark, some things like that.
I know it's not really Native American.
I think it's from Peru.
But have you ever tried Hoppe or Rafael?
Oh, no, I haven't.
OK.
All right, I just got some, and I haven't tried it yet.
But I'm going to do it probably on Thanksgiving
most likely.
but yeah, I wanted to see if you had tried it,
but it's from Peru, it's like a,
it's a bark and a tobacco mixture.
It's the greens, it's like the snuff
that they blow up your nose and suddenly.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I have it because I think
my mind and authoring was in mushrooms.
As far as far as I went.
Yeah, I heard that, man.
So brother, thank you for coming on,
hanging out with me, man.
Was there anything else that you wanted to touch on
that's on your heart that if you just want to take a few minutes and just kind of get
off your chest man because I know that information comes to you and through you man and
you're good at actually sending those messages.
Okay.
Yeah.
One of the things I've been sitting here and gathering was like a lot of our relatives
that get lost, that loser direction that there's a, there's always, always the fact that
if you fall down and get back up, you know, don't give up because you're walking
I mean, you're walking in a sacred manner right now
because of our ancestors that are walking with us.
They're helping us to reconnect to that sacred way
of life that old way.
And so these old teachings,
and I gotcha, encourage people
as to remain proud for our main peaceful
because we have, we have rewritten history
by doing the things that we have done
because of so many, you know,
the government wanting us to live one way
and telling us this is how we fear each other,
your enemies, you're not supposed to be talking,
but we burnt down those walls and we've erected
a new pass, new awakening,
new connectedness through a spirit.
And one thing I'd like to share is that
if you have those feelings and those thoughts,
I've helped a lot of people who've been struggling
with dark forces, dark demons,
and always tell them, carry your sweet grass,
carry saves, carry something to burn and reconnect yourself.
Because if you carry a sweet dressing at a stage,
when you have a part of having a negative thousand
he doesn't want to end your life or that type of completion,
keep that stuff with you and burn it.
And say a prayer and ask that you expel that negative
thought out of your mind because it's a test.
What it is is these entities that come,
We invite them in by, you know, not, not, not really thinking.
We're just, you know, not too long.
Okay, well, I'm open to this.
Not coming.
And then we go, so earlier we're possessed.
So you have to expel that,
but you always have to be centered and grounded in prayer.
And like I always say, energy.
We are energy, and so having that sweet grass prayer.
And it's just, it's just been harder to speak here
with you guys, you know, and waking a lot of people,
not to, not to, not to give up because we are still moving forward and I do see a lot of change
coming and the good thing is it's not like what people had expected in the end of the world,
you know, floods and you know, catastrophe. The flood would be a new coming of people, a new,
a new era, a new time that's just going to take people by storm, you know, and it's going to come
pretty fast. And it's that new belief that new, it's not the new order. It's say it's our
ancestors reconnecting us with source and be positive.
I've always had my ups and downs, but once I light my sweet grass, then I'm
centered again and always stick to centered.
Yeah, that's about having like the medicine bag with you and I see
carrying it, taking it with you wherever you go. Yeah, exactly.
So that's my only advice, the part in the advice is, you know, to be
acknowledge your spirit. If you have a spirit and you acknowledge and start feeding that spirit,
you're having a spiritual awakening because a lot of us, we search our whole life for something
that's right in front of us. We look for, you know, a new, what we call, genres, there's new genres
that are coming in, what's, what's A and what's not in, and so on as you find that, then you look at,
okay, well, here's my answers to showing me this through our connection and pay attention to the
signs because they're always there and they're always there and we don't see them and it's right
there in front of us you know it's always in front of us so having that spiritual awakening is the
key feeding your spirit with food and water and tobacco and do it daily you know and I pray like
six to ten times a day but once you have that spiritual awakening then everything else has
come easy and try it for like a month if you don't like it step away from it and you're going to
start missing something. There's something missing in my life. What is it? Oh, prayer. All right,
that's what it was. And also then you are automatically coming back to it.
Just coming back around. Yeah, part of that grounding and returning the source is just
in this easy like that. Like you say, it's not even hard. Like once you, but you gotta,
you kind of have to get to a place where you know that it works and you know that this
all I need. It's just to even just take a few moments and focus on the breath, focus on the elements,
and offer it, offer the breath back to the Creator,
as given thanks for it and offering it back,
man, and it's so powerful.
And it's just a connected breathing.
And we talk about how spirituality is so deep,
but the breath, focus on it's as simple as focusing
on the breath and the breathing,
and offer it back to the Creator.
Yes.
All right, brother, if you want to go ahead
and share your Facebook page, man,
let people know how they can contact you.
If people have questions or they want to join you
in your prayer circles that you do on Facebook, man.
Okay, shut that info.
Okay, I got a Facebook page, it's Royce Gay.
We have a prayer group that's called
Waluamani, W-O, W-A-K, W-A-L-A,
hyphen, M-A-N-I, Waluamani,
which is walks off on this earth.
And if you want to donate,
I can put on my PayPal too.
Yeah, definitely.
I have a PayPal website. It's Royce Gay 604 at uplook.com. It's my PayPal. If you want to donate,
please do. What I'm doing is trying to look at different platforms besides Facebook. Facebook
has helped the style a lot, but it's the people that are duplicating the account.
You can't hack a lot. You can hack a lot on Facebook. You can hack a lot. And I'm doing a lot of
the hackers who kind of like jumped into my personal life and start, you know.
That's one thing I do since then, Rutgers. I try to discredit myself because it became overwhelming, you know.
And so my running joke was I used to go to these websites, these adult websites and talk to the women and ask them, you know, why are you, you know,
in my culture, in my ceremony, a woman is sacred.
They have to bring life into this world.
What happens when you're here?
And I get myself this name, he's some sober guy.
You know, because a lot of people are saying,
oh, you're a messiah, I'm like, no, I'm not.
And so I started teaching the people.
And it's just kind of like, instead of just
creating myself, just grew up overnight
and people are just like, oh man, I feel like
this guy's doing some great stuff for this people
and he's all lower the place.
And I was just right at home.
I didn't go nowhere.
And I would reach out in different platforms,
trying to find that platform that would reach
the most people.
And I found it through YouTube.
Facebook was great.
But once they started to duplicate me,
because it's crazy, you know what I mean?
They just come after, you know, like for veterans,
they have posted up a spiritual, a chief.
And somebody went out there and put up a nigga leg right there and said, well, sort of
that, I put the cool stuff.
I didn't even get to say anything.
I didn't get the right any comments or not, I just put a picture there.
It's swipe up the laptop swipe when blank and then the lady says, yeah, I got this picture
for you.
I like no way.
That's not why I was one of the bots, but my sister actually found out that it's the
people in California.
Somebody in California, like we were saying right before we did his broadcast, I'll try
to log in on my Facebook account and I was logged in in Fresno, California.
So, you know, Fremont, California.
So, it's just, you know, let them do their thing.
I know how, I know my walk, I know my walking,
and like I'm saying, that wouldn't be me
if I was out there, you know, making porn on graphic.
Cause there's this, there's this mall where right now
malicious mall where it's got me like,
I'm like, I'm 12, 112 million views.
And so the people that follow me, I see it.
Okay, he's doing something as big.
They look at the views.
And so they want to click onto it,
when you click onto it, it's mostly small, are you?
It's always how people would be traveling
because these are the people that have nothing better
to do but sit around all day long
and try to corrupt your account,
get into your bank account.
Oh yeah, they're trying to get tricky slick with it.
I've been getting emails like crazy trying to get
to click stuff, yeah.
Some of it's convincing, man.
Yeah, I had to close my account with my bank
because of that.
And so, you know, I'm always staying ahead of them.
But like I was saying, when people see that
you have a good heart, they don't want to try
circumvent what you're doing you know and try to knock you off. I'm not on a pedestal. I'll just do like I say
I'm a common man. I make the prayers. I don't call myself a medicine man, but I call myself an
Exhary Chasha, which is a common man. And so you know, that's help. That's carrying me a lot further than
you know, people
Word of mouth and word of mouth spreads pretty good. Yeah, but you actually see what you're doing in this
Okay, and it's hard for me to accept that because I looked at myself as a humble person
It gets squirrely, man. You get all these messages and how your message is so powerful and how you've helped me and then you're like,
man, I'm just a regular person. It's really how to kind of process all of that because you're the superhero to some people
and to your family and friends, you're just a regular person. And that's the same thing that Jesus went through, man.
He says that a prophet is without honor in his hometown because they all know them. They all grew up with them.
But to the other people who are traveling and going into other cities, he's a medicine man
He's a healer and things like that. So but to his friends like oh man, I grew up with that dude, man
It's a little tricks, you know
One time I took a picture of my feet because after my I've had my body was compromised
I don't know what happened then what the one out of a nine million one out of a hundred million is said
So because I had my compromise in my skin at all these people come from all over the world coming
checking me out in a lot of them said,
let me look at your feet.
And so I was showing my feet top of my feet
and had these, you know, like, it would bleed, you know?
And so I saw it to a religious woman,
she said, oh, stick mine up.
So I said, she fell out and fainted.
And woke up,
yeah, the whole brothel of a religious people coming in.
And I'm like, no, it was my,
it was her and I said it,
but it wasn't me.
It was her, you know?
So she's great.
And so it kind of spread like that.
And so I had a feeling from that,
like I was telling people and I'm just a common man, but a lot of people elsewhere had said,
you know, you know, help to slow in so many ways. And that's what kind of bringing us to tears
because in my mind, I want to help a lot of people because our world, our country, our communities,
our homes, it shouldn't be that way where we're always, you know, shaking your hand with one hand
and it's stabbing you in the back with the other, you know, like her say, love and light, if we have,
If we're light warriors, we should all have love and light continuous things.
No, not just because it's on Sunday or just because it's Passover, but every game, you know,
we should always be, you know, reliving, walking in the faith.
That's it.
Her brother, thank you so much for coming on.
I enjoy the message and I'm going to reach out to you soon, brother.
And we'll probably do this again.
Thank you so much for hanging out with me, Royce.
All right.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
All right.
God bless bro.
All right.
Thank you.
How are we?
I'll disconnect.
There he is.
Royce Gay, ladies and gentlemen, go add him on Facebook.
He's like I said, he goes live and does prayer.
And he has a huge following man.
There's a lot of people who are affiliated with him.
And I guess it was from the Dakota Access Pipeline, which he referenced a lot that I guess
he met a lot of people and he's affiliated with a lot of people through that.
And that was big, and that's right up his alley.
And so it's kind of weird how the militias and everybody wanted to get involved.
And so, but I guess, I don't know if that's, I guess that's a good thing.
I mean, if you got people wanting to take up arms to protect you, I mean, because they
were, man, they were doing some pretty brutal stuff up there to the indigenous people.
And that whole thing was insane, insane that whole ordeal, man.
So it takes us, some of the people who were in it, man, they were on, he was on the front
lines. So Roy skate, make sure y'all add him. It was cool that he talked about the
different entities that he's seen in the room, the ancestral spirits, because me and my
daughter experienced something very similar, started gazing outside in our backyard one night,
which was those beings that looked like fireflies, but they were huge. They were big,
They were like big fireflies and they were blue and green.
Like the fireflies are like a yellowish color,
but they were blue and they were big flying around, man.
And they were just a bunch of them just going in circles
and stuff and then they just disappeared
throughout the forest just along and up for us to see them.
And we called them fairies and it was a real magical encounter
to have those things all around us
and they just flew into the woods.
And then after we had that experience,
I came in and tried to find anything online
of some type of insect or bug or bird or whatever
that lights up like that.
And there was nothing that I could find online
to show me what that was.
So that was a magical encounter
that sounded a lot like his ancestral experience
that he talked about that happened inside.
He said, which was really beautiful.
And that was when it was going through
a lot of different experiences in my awakening
and I was having these type of encounters all the time.
Through stargazing, through going out there
spending that time, because that stargazing is a time of meditation, is a time of prayer
where you're able to be still and be quiet and just gaze upon the heavens and focus
on the things above.
That's what those scriptures mean, the focus on the stars, focus on the heavenly realms
and the things that matter, the things of eternity.
And it says that the things that are here on earth are temporal, but those things that
which are above are eternal.
And the scriptures are true when it means that.
And beautiful encounters by staring at the stars and I can't wait to do some more of that.
The weather is getting nice now that we can actually spend some time outside and do that.
So I enjoyed this podcast.
I enjoy all of them.
Everybody has something different to bring to the table.
And I find common ground to deal with everybody.
And it really messes in with the message of I've become all things to all men so that I can
win some.
there's some stuff in every episode that we've done.
I can't think of one, even the hard to swallow episodes,
the Jordan Maxwell's and the Santos Banachis.
Like there's so much lessons in that stuff
that even if it's not the message,
there's other underlying messages that if you're listening,
you should be able to use wisdom to pull from that
about getting in over your head and just giving up.
Like a lot of that stuff, man,
because you come under attack, you come under scrutiny
when you receive a platform and you're as big as those guys man.
So there's something to reflect on on every episode that we've done and they've all been
beautiful and I've been doing a lot here lately and I have a lot more planned ahead of
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