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TruthSeekah and Michael sit down for a round table discussion about Spirituality and the Spirit Realm. Some of the topics we discuss on the show may seem a little deep and hard to comprehend but the emphasis always goes back to making our encounters tangible. There is always a lesson to be learned from the realms of the spirit. We also talk about intention. Pointing out a lot of tools that we use to access and maneuver around the spirit realm. To go in and not to just be amazed and in awe but to learn how to pull things out and shift circumstances and ideas to our benefit as well as those around us.


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Spirit Talk  Round Table  TruthSeekah & Michael Basham
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okay who needs an intro I don't know
we're gonna try to do this again before
we were rudely interrupted by the
technical difficulties so we're trying
to do a roundtable discussion we've been
talking about doing this for a while
okay the intro is deciding to play this
is insane man well it's trying to play
in the background it's weird
okay I'm scared that if I continue on
the intro is gonna tell
CAES faintest and when I don't be
right now locked into the to think about
you think and all things spiritual yes
I'm true seeker were back with another
exciting episode we're gonna try to do
this again we've been having some
problems with the stream here we were
supposed to have Dan Oscar Pinsky on
with us but right before we went live he
had some internet problems and he wasn't
able to join and then so me and Michael
Bastian went live that's right right
about 10 minutes and then my computer
shut off during the live stream so we
said why not try it
one last time why not you know so
instead of running through all this
field about everything I want to say a
huge thank you to everybody who is
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are helping me to do what I'm doing
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you to all the people who have been
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like I love my day once and thank you
for everybody who have just joined
within the last week or two so many
people supporting the work and what I'm
doing here and I think it's awesome
because it encourages me because you
guys see value in what we're doing
having these discussions having guests
on making ourselves available putting
out content music teachings and things
like that to kind of advance us
spiritually and really just share what
works for us and that's all I'm sharing
is what has worked for me not really too
big on to the theories and things like
that but let's just share what works and
I think if we all do that I think we can
move mountains in the in the spirit
realms and instead of taking a long time
to figure out how this stuff works and
just just share what's working so
Michael Bassam amen what's working for
you man
what's working are you talking about
like as far as getting into the spirit
and seeing crazy stuff happen and like
that's a good place to start sharing the
truth or I'm getting messages to people
who are like do not tell anybody my
secrets and singing crazy stuff is a
great place to start well but like what
how do you know if it's like a good
thing that you're seeing or if it's like
something you shouldn't be seeing or if
it's like a bad spirit or a good spirit
I mean how do you tell them in
discernment
spirit of discernment how's your sermon
what's that let's see if we got any
people calling us heretics yet yeah that
was that was drew and my buddy drew he
said he's gonna call in he's been on the
podcast two major transformation in his
life awesome friend of mine good brother
and we're talking about off the air
about the tribes coming together right
and having friends and going to prayer
meetings and in the tribes mix in and
Dan's friends meet my friends and all of
these kind of things right so drew was
in the midst of that and drew is hung
out with Dan right we went to New
Orleans to a float tank experience
together Meade Andrew and another friend
of ours and uh we documented it you need
to watch it yeah I want to serious yeah
it is it's hilarious and I kind of
cringe at it a little bit now because
I'm so deep in it I'm so deep and I'm
just like I want to get in the flow tank
and I meet with the angels like I think
I was looking forward to it man and we
had it was a beautiful though
beautiful beautiful time and I'll send
you that link and anybody else I'll put
it into in the show notes in the
description but what's working Michael
Bastian getting quiet
having faith sticking close to the Bible
got my Bible right here's my three bucks
buy my mommy my mommy bought it for me
the good book okay guts are falling out
of it
what did I'm just trying to say about
the Bible of me a man whose Bible is
falling apart usually shows that that
the person isn't falling apart or their
life isn't
that's right not misquoting but I
stopped marking it I mean it's it's like
I feel like if I keep marking it it's
just I usually just look at the Bible on
my phone anyway but it's nice to see him
a messed up Bible sometimes you like
well you know I used to do this but I
mean you could just randomly open this
thing and ask God questions and he talks
to you it's I'm not really that good he
says stuff like like a look as for me my
feet were almost gone my steps had well
nice slipped you know you could you can
easily get sucked into even the
spiritual traveling stuff people get
sucked into the pride side of it and I
know people that get into this that
they're just like they almost worship
the mystic they think that the mystic
people are gurus and people just don't
want to think for themselves they don't
want to be discerning the spirits on
their own and it's easy to to it's
sucked into the prides at the side of
all that but if as you keep coming back
to the Bible and God keeps crushing you
in your life through experience all
things and you're just like crawling
back to him I feel like you've got all
the Psalms on your side like you've got
all the patriarchs all the stories in
this Bible all the the the incredible
histories of the God of Israel that led
the people of Israel through the Red Sea
I've been telling this to my students
recently at the Rotary Club my business
class have been like business class of
business Taiwanese that want to learn
English that have businesses about a
flight attendant but they are amazed
when you just tell them some of the
basic stories the Bible that have been
archaeologically proven that you can go
to the Red Sea you can swim down where
you know Ron Wyatt swam and he took
photographic evidence of the wheels of
Pharaoh's armies and bones of horses and
Men and the wheels these golden chariot
wheels are exactly the kind that you
would see depicted in the Egyptian you
know higher glyphs and pictures from
that era from that pharaohs time in
Egypt so you you you find this stuff and
you realize holy crap this this Bible is
really like everything in it is true
God is real when I found that out when I
was 17 years old it suddenly made sense
to me in a very personal level not just
oh your grandfather was was a writer who
wrote 16 books by the Holy Spirit and we
got to follow him and I read a lot of
his books you know Don Bosch him face up
with a miracle all this stuff and I had
experienced levels of spiritual warfare
but it was like suddenly it was like
holy cow this is really literally true
God actually exists man I mean if you
find that out that's it you've got to
follow him what else you gonna live for
and it's not about showing off to people
you know that's what works though right
just finding finding God and finding
ways to stay close and learn in a kind
of walking hand-in-hand with with the
Lord through the good and the bad right
that that's all that matters
in the end I mean he could lead you
through the Red Sea but then a few years
later he's gonna kill ya cuz you're
worshiping that that that golden calf
and you're gonna lose your soul and he's
gonna kill you out of mercy but the but
the people that get into this through
relationship I meet a lot of in Clayton
followers just because I'm like his
biggest troll and biggest groupie Frant
and like fan and a lot of people are
after that kind of experience with God
and they don't focus enough on the
relationship yeah and I've been guilty
of that too at times you just forget you
know that God actually wants to know you
he wants to walk with you he wants to
start a story in your life that's not
just completely random it actually goes
right into the Bible mm-hmm sorry I keep
pulling the Bible I heard this is a
trick you just hold a Bible and you look
spiritual well I like that because we
were doing a lot of preaching in
churches and traveling and stuff and uh
all the pastors would come out with the
iPads and I was like where's the book
you know I always want to always make
sure I put I had my book with me man and
say you know I'm saying what happened
and the electricity goes out what you
gonna do so um tonight we're just
hanging out man
you know real agenda so anybody who has
any questions or comments or want to
share your stories may call in the
numbers streaming across the top of the
video and it's in the description as
well we're gonna jump to some of these
phone calls I believe drew is on the
phone we just mentioned drew a while a
while ago caller from Alabama's issue
drew what up bro what's going on my
brother and the title role and amen hey
I need and we can go into this story too
but I need um if he's there can you
punch can you give Lou the phone I think
I think Michael bathrooms a fan of uh
Lou Engel you know who Lou Lou Engel is
Michael Bassam yeah yeah yeah we're
actually we're actually in a mayor's
conference right now together
it's a seminar for a new young couples
for just how to be a godly household but
hang on let me give ya they've got a
second to be awesome of Lou Engel can
come on just say hi evangelist hey Lou
you guys are expecting a big turnout for
the call this year never been before
Paul of the jeribai Revolution first
waves up raise up who we are who where
God wants to be I feel like stronger
than ever I have a change in as much me
neither
Lenny almost like to call it the call of
the Nazarites are you familiar with Lou
Engel Michael Bastian do you have a
question I'm Lou Engel um from the call
I've I've definitely heard his name
before I haven't heard his
message yet but it's really exciting to
meet you sir and and welcome to come on
my show to someday if you ever have a
chance are you guys doing a conference
right now you're doing a marriage
conference
hopefully I can hear you very clearly
now well we're doing a marriage
conference for young singles about
Christian household how to raise up
children okay when they grow up here
without the cold and the job evolution
beautiful it sounds like every other
conference though no where's the nominee
good
we got a doctor the door I think it's
David oh that's good radio live radio
[Laughter]
yeah well hey man thanks for putting
them on dude I know he's I thought he
was fasting but I thought it was fasting
no I mean I think he does like
intermittent fasting so you like go days
not eat anything right yeah whatever you
want but it's crazy man Thank You Man
like you know hilly the pizza and get
real spiritual um yeah crazy yeah that's
crazy man so drew what's going on with
you man um I mentioned our trip cuz we
were taught my everybody's connected and
stuff and was through Dan and do our
friends and just just like enter me
mingling and meeting new people and then
I talked about our trip to New Orleans
to the phone to the float tank you want
to talk about that a little bit yeah
yeah so like our journeys been really
long really kind of like crazy as long
as me and you
don't each other carry some of things
that we've been been through and been to
and kind of in and out of and I'm you
know I'm thankful at the end of the day
like I wouldn't take any of it back
you know I think God's brought us where
he wants us and it's probably let us
experience some things let us walk
through some things and I think probably
on the other side of that we're stronger
because of that and maybe your testimony
and maybe just our history will be able
for us you know maybe in the future to
be a blessing meant to be a testimony to
somebody else because we've been through
some of these things you know you were
talking earlier you were talking earlier
about those prayer meetings that we used
to have and um you know I I've walked
down some roads like I'm not really like
proud of things that I've done that
obviously you know I don't regret
because it's made me who I am but it's
something that I think sometimes God
allows you to little things along and
life's the hard way maybe just cuz we're
stubborn or maybe we like we know the
Caldecott have we kind of just rocks
with it anyway um but one of those
prayer meetings that we actually went
through and God showed up and I remember
like it was amazing but I walked into
that prayer meeting with drugs in my
pocket and I'll never forget like but
you know halfway through the prayer
meeting I was like so convicted I ended
up went and like going and pushing him
down the toilet and like unless that for
a meeting different and I knew within
myself like there was things that I had
to do to change not just because it was
like a right or wrong or you know it's
whatever it might be in the world's eyes
but because of you know it was my own
conviction like it was something I knew
I had to do it for myself and that was
important you know that was something
that stuck out to me and you know you
were mentioning that earlier that was
something that kind of brought me back
for a minute so we've done a lot and you
know I grew up in church and you can
call me a prodigal or whatever you want
to call me I kind of relate myself to
the prodigal son inscriptions it except
when I come back I
no it's more than just I'm getting a
party like I know like you know I'm
going back to my right foot as a child
of God as you know it is my right of
passage you know I'm a child of the king
like this is what I want
like I'm royalty because I'm his and you
know we make that declaration within
ourselves will become Krishna you know
and that eternal security like that's
forever like you know you you become as
a child of God that you become part of
God's family like that doesn't go away
like my son can be like the worst person
all day long and all that but you know
if he died he was worst kid that whole
day like he's still my kid you know what
I mean so they doesn't take it away and
looking at it like that and allowing
yourself to forgive yourself to move on
that can move mountains but um you know
we've we've done a lot and going back to
the whole no low flow things dude like
that hole even like recently with
stranger things and like that whole you
know that'll TV show think about that
yeah it's synchronicity it really is
some of the stuff that we've been
through which you know that I didn't
even know that was a thing until you
know a few years ago and I remember the
first time we went it was like
completely pure intentions and it was
like you know we were kind of just
curious I guess I'm a second time we
went with intent and you know there is
things out that I'm not I don't think
everything in this world is black and
white I think you know there are some
things that you know I wouldn't say
they're questionable but I would I would
maybe be curious though to why God put
certain things on the service you know
whether it be you know mushrooms or
whatever it might be to you you know we
have natural receptors in our body for
psychedelics and there are natural
psychedelics in this world so why would
we have natural psychedelics in this
world and have receptors in our body but
or not have no reason to use you have no
reason for us to use them so then
the question a lot of a lot of things
that maybe what we might seem right or
wrong in our culture maybe isn't correct
you know there's a lot of cultures that
find alcohol and tobacco as right or
wrong and you know in some cases it's
even illegal and you know it's what's
needed and it's just your culture what
you're brought up and that is right and
that is wrong but I don't think
everything is like that in this world so
we'll say that we went we went with it
you know we went with intent and you
know you do certain things like that
they're not meant to be used to have a
great time or you know get high or
whatever you want to call it but they're
used for spiritual journey in some cases
and cultures it's even a rite of passage
when a man or woman becomes of a certain
age they're looked at as an adult it is
a spiritual journey that they will go
through it kind of like lose themselves
and find themselves lose who they think
they are and find who they're supposed
to be it's very very important it's very
life-changing but it's also one of those
things that it's very I guess you could
say frowned upon or maybe just not
understood correctly because it's our
culture do I communicant own them
completely no I you know would I ever
use them again I don't know how I use
them recently no way but you know it's
just one of those things I have used
them I don't have like a strong sense of
urgency of like oh this is wrong but
this was right I know what it's done for
me and it completely changed my life
what about you Michael Bassam have you
ever had any psychedelic encounters and
you wild crazy youth no I mean I'm kind
of personal people are like you know
what you don't know you don't need drugs
I mean my parents are classical
musicians I grew up homeschooled yeah
you know go out in the backyard and have
a spiritual experience but I don't doubt
that you can I mean I'm sure that if I
was to get into it I'd probably be
tempted to really get into it so so far
I haven't tried anything
just coffee alcohol some tobacco you
know but I've noticed when you're
extremely tired when you get to that
place where you're so physically
exhausted but you can just stay awake
and you get really quiet and you just
lie down and put on some music like I've
almost left my body I know there was one
time where I was about to leave and I
was like okay Lord take me and then
Lord's like now you're not you're too
scared no I'm not Lord take me I'm ready
I'm ready Lord I mean I felt like my
spirit was literally about to just get
out of there nor my soul or whatever I
don't even pretend to understand this
stuff how it works but it's it's
interesting to me I just I believe that
the experiential part of it is not as
important as the faith part of it so
that you're able like which is astral
travel we as Christians we start where
they end so as high as you can astral
travel is the point where by faith you
can begin to travel in spirit and do
stuff but the difference is it always
requires faith so that you get a reward
because God wants you to grow in your
faith and if you just like whoa I'm in
the [Â __Â ] realm I'm I'm seeing things
so it's those yeah then you're like
alright you got your reward already you
know you saw it but if you're if you're
doing something in faith where you're
like is this real or is this imaginary
am I making this up versus am I really
talking to Jesus or and then it comes
true what he said or what you saw or
what then there's I think that's that's
more like Abraham level you know he
believed in God and it was accounted to
him for righteousness
and but I loved experiences though I
won't lie I mean I love it when you see
stuff that's like that's fun I mean I
wake up in between half awake and half
asleep and I'll see stuff in my room
like this whole all the ceiling in this
room was all covered with veins that was
weird and I saw it's kind of like portal
opening in front of that's definitely
some strange thing stuff oh it was
totally out of yeah and then I watched
stranger things like the next day and I
was like I saw this but we live in a
world that is spiritual when you wield
the Word of God its wielding this light
and your faith shines and you know
angels come in and it's just it's
awesome I mean you got a we got to get
word
spirit you know someday we should have a
spirit battle we'll see who's more
spiritual truth seeker yeah my friends
we had some moms kidding it's probably
it's gonna be me level 90
are you level 95 no we're traveling you
guys you guys can totally be more
spiritual but you know what I think I
don't even think that you know after
having those awesome encounters which I
love and I'm totally open to having to
have them again and more often it to me
and none of it makes sense unless you
can bring it into this realm and you can
actually make it manifest and change
your reality and the reality of those
people who are around you and I think
Drew's story after everything he's been
through and I've been through and we've
been through together through dealing
with psycho psychedelics and being
Christians and Christians using
psychedelics together that type of deal
and to see where drew is at now drew was
almost 400 pounds and has lost over 200
now right Wow yeah yeah so he's been
able to kind of go into those realms and
see his self and get a vision of what he
wants to do with his life in those
realms and get a hunger to do it and to
manifest it and to interview to get a
game plan and and hey the you know the
psychedelic state is for that the dream
state is for that to go in right to get
a vision and go to the place where
visions are birthed and and and and
shaped and formed and reformed and go
back to that place and I did it too when
I started doing healing sessions
one-on-one sessions for people it came
through a psychedelic encounter and this
overwhelming sensation that having an
encounter with God on magic mushrooms
and having this overwhelming sensation
to do healing sessions and it looked
like it was something that was the
furthest thing that could that could
ever take place and what
in a few months God gave me again a game
plan and started doing it and started
doing a bunch and seeing people's lives
being transformed and making myself
available to that and it's crazy and
it's so powerful that it's it's hard to
believe and to even to see drew where
he's at now
to where he was that's hard to believe
you know but uh that's what it's about
it's about making it simple and bringing
it into this reality every single bit of
it you know like I had these amazing
encounters with Jesus where I seen Jesus
and my my vision was radiating with
bright blinding light and I couldn't see
anything and Jesus stood in front of me
in the spirit realm and it was so bright
that I couldn't see and I could feel his
love radiating towards me and it was so
pure and blissful and awesome and
euphoric but at the same time there was
a heaviness and a burden and as his his
pain for Humanity and how much he loves
us with this this heart aching love and
I felt that too and it was just crushing
me and I was screaming at the top of my
lungs at a prayer meeting in somebody's
house and they could feel the energy
radiating off of me it was really an
amazing encounter with Jesus but if I
was just to leave that encounter but
yeah man I I said that and just kind of
way in our our experiences but to bring
it down to to break it down and bring it
into reality okay what's that for okay
he wants me to feel how he feels for
Humanity so I can take that and run with
it and I can take that and I can I can
have that same compassion towards people
and see people like he sees them and I
can hurt for people like he hurts for
people he lets me feel how he hurts for
people and and and and how much he loves
people and how much he hates sin and how
much he hates you know us being caught
up in bondages and darkness and stuff
that we that shouldn't be in and to be
able to feel that in a spiritual
encounter but make it as plain as
something that we can we can carry in
our day-to-day lives well amen yeah
now just like if I could add something
to that you were talking about kind of
like making that dream state like making
that part of who you are because like
you know an experience when we go so far
unless you do something with it and by
us as people and even as Christians like
we're very much by by what we see and
that what we believe um so you know you
can sell people all the time you can
tell people the time of like God's great
love and His mercy and His grace but
unless you show that to others and let
them feel that same great person in love
it means nothing and same thing goes
with our experiences like you know we
have these great experiences or whatever
and like we have all these great
intentions in America and our heart of
what we want to do none less like we put
that to action it means nothing and um
you know our body our body our cells of
attrition and this is something I
struggled with for a long time being so
overweight was how could I ever be a
testimony you know I mean how can
somebody you know and it's not like that
like a shameful thing I'm never I would
never be one of those people that would
put other people to shame or anything
like that but self-control is the fruit
of the Spirit and if we can't
self-control in that area you know and I
don't want to step on any toes but if we
don't have self-control in the area how
could we help or guide or try to reach
others in those same kind of areas that
they're struggling with and that makes
any sense yeah you know you got to be
good to your body like I gave you this
body to be good to to the nourisher to
take care of and you know it's something
that's become you know it's it's
important for me it's it's no longer
like a goal of mine but it's more of an
obsession that was something that I have
to do I used to struggle with anxiety
and depression and so this was like an
everyday occurrence and now if I don't
take care of about if I don't work out
if I if I'm not good to the temple that
God's given me then I still struggle
with those things because I do because I
do take care of my you know my body
because you know all these other things
like that is what naturally gives us
that's a
how naturally God gives us the ability
to overcome those things and I know
people like don't really know that or
don't haven't really experienced that
but it's the complete truth there is a
natural high that you can get just by
working out just by running just by you
know what I mean like your your your
body is naturally giving out endorphins
that are that are negative you know when
you're physically in activity like that
and but like I said it you know you can
talk all day to somebody but unless you
show them that same experience and it
should be the same love or whatever it
might be
your words mean nothing so you make
those you know feel that same feeling
that you're feeling that same feeling a
desperation or whatever it might be so
then to make that same change in their
life but they need to be in other words
the only goes so far yeah
and just thinking of it like this like
you're the temple people worship the
temple all the time they're always like
oh behold the temple look at my check me
out I work out a dude and or they're
afraid of like how do I look in front of
people and we can easily get sucked into
even these cell phones I mean you can be
talking on the cell phone all day with
people and be sucked into the internet
and it's just as bad as any kind of
gateway drug or heavy drug and if you're
not using this temple to perform its
main purpose which is all right a prayer
house for all nations so there is
something to fellowshipping and
listening to people and pouring out love
but then the other side is connecting
with God directly and having that
relationship with him and if you're
completely sick or super you know
unhealthy it's hard to hear from God it
like is you don't like even if you just
haven't slept in a long time or you're
or if you you've drank too much or
anything you can easily you know you
won't be able to even read this you
won't even be able to like connect with
it cuz it'll just be like or you know
you just overwork people are workaholics
where people watch too much TV
whatever it is you know just balance in
all things and the but the main point is
not any of those things it's just can
you connect with God or not and then
that's if you can then suddenly you've
achieved maximum power of
and you will come on the true seeker
podcast I think that's and tell I mean
it's true like we look for a sign this
is the shows are a place where you share
the signs it's that's the stuff that
that we can see we can tell the stories
the hard part to get across is the
relationship I don't know how to I don't
know how to really transmit that enough
but I know that for myself that's the
challenge is like am I really connecting
with God or not well every easy to look
spiritual it's not even haven't talked
to him it's hard to to convey that over
a podcast especially coming from my
experience so here we are a couple kids
talking about you know doing magic
mushrooms but you got to use the context
of like our day-to-day and our
relationship with God and where it's
comes from like like we're Christians
were like reading the scriptures daily
where we were doing magic mushrooms
listening to Bethel worship music and in
Hillsong you know and and so it's to
really try to wrap your head around that
it's not like but we have but people
don't know that unless we tell them the
stories they we're not so when we
preference like our spiritual encounters
our meditation times our spiritual
practice like it's you got a you got a
you know I'm saying be able to know
where we're coming from because
everybody's not coming from that
background everybody's not a Christian
that everybody doesn't know that Jesus
loves them with an everlasting love and
He gave His life for them and and and in
him we live and move and have our being
like they don't they don't have that
revelation so when we share all of this
stuff we still got to let people know
that we're we're coming from and who we
are of just random people right trying
to meditate or trying to astral travel
versus we know who we are and being
called and being sent and having all
this encounter and experience and years
behind us and we're not just new agers
out here doing it we're not just
Christians trying something new like
there's a there's years of study and in
revelation and heartache and travail
wanting to give up and in God working on
your heart there's so much there and
it's hard to get that across whenever
we're like hey man yeah so we did this
and we went to a float tank or you don't
they don't know that like hey like all
the preparation that went in before the
flow tank or all the preparation and all
the studying and the fasting that went
in before we would do what I heard all
the other before doing this a
psychedelic journey and the chantings
and the mantras and getting oneself
right spiritually and it goes without
saying even see even that is like that
I'm saying that the spiritual process is
the preparation which is so much more
holy than sometimes even you know
indulging in and doing it so for me when
we do those things and I have so many
stories and they're so beautiful and I
can't even wrap my head around a lot of
them like I can't I can try to explain
them I don't know what I seen it in some
some occasions you know it there's so
many beings and life forms and things
out there
that cross over to this reality not us
going into theirs but their cross over
to ours you know - I have to make sure
that I get the lessons from it like if
we do something like that or we God
shows up in a mighty way in my life and
something beautiful and awesome and
blows my mind that he doesn't do
everyday you know I have to wrap my mind
and get and see what he's trying to tell
me versus okay let's do it again let's
do it again you know because the wheat
there's those people out there and we've
been with those people let's do it again
let's let's do mushrooms next weekend I
wouldn't know dude no do you I've never
I'm just curious so do when you do it
can you like keep control like do you
feel like you um do you like if there
are demons pouring through like a
gateway somewhere like do you have the
lucidity to be able to wield a sword of
the Spirit like when you're high on
mushrooms or are you just seeing it like
you're watching a movie type of thing
it's like you're on a roller coaster but
the Holy Spirit's driving it
out-of-body experiences that were
demonic I've actually definitely
experienced things that were like okay
this was not good but it was like that
go ahead psych it up there I if I could
see real quick I've actually had both
encounters yeah one one encounter I had
with magic mushrooms was probably one of
the worst nights of my life I felt like
I was being attacked spiritually
I had a vision of it was like a demon a
snake and it had its self like wraps
around me and every time I breathe in
like it would clinch tighter and tighter
almost where I couldn't breathe I will
say that everything is done from the
intentions of your heart you know the
scripture that God weighs weighs the
kisses of your heart so if you do
something with or without the right
intent I think your your outcome is
always gonna matter the one time where I
had that negative experience I was also
doing other drugs at night I was also
just not in the right film tight
spiritually I was not just running from
God
running from his call but I was just
completely like over it like I didn't
even care I was probably one of the
worst times of my life
honestly but then I've also had some of
the most crazy like face-to-face
encounters with God when it was done
with the right intention um I feel like
that's very very serious note to push
maybe something to kind of portray as to
whatever your intentions are like going
in through that kind of journey I think
that's what you're gonna look like
that's what you're gonna get if you're
going in try to get like effed up and
high and whatever yeah you will but
you're not gonna have a great time I
promise but if you go in searching for
something searching for an answer or
maybe it be spiritual or whatever it
might be like you're gonna find it you
know yeah it's just you can even go back
you can even go back to scripture you
know seek and ye shall find
not to the door shall be opened like
it's all there yeah and I just think I
think it's important to it to kind of I
guess portray that because it's not it's
a very very serious thing you know no no
no and you have to try your best to
understand what you're getting yourself
into and even when you're trying to
prepare yourself for it the best you can
there's really no way of preparing for
it yeah but if but like I said we're
we're approaching this as Christians and
so our our outcome our experiences are
different than someone who has no idea
who God is or Jesus is with that being
said as far as like we know who put that
who put that piece of fruit here like
that organically grew from the front
from the ground my father put that here
it's not about like mixing drugs and
concoction this type of potion and
taking it right and then so if I take it
and and I eat it and it's something that
could come here from from the ground
from the earth that that's my thing I
was scared going into it but that was
part of me is that okay God you you put
this here I'm gonna try it and I felt
like you calling me and I did so much so
much so much research on it but we did
it with Jesus and that's the weird the
weird thing but you just got to know who
we are and what we come from we act like
as Christians there's places where Jesus
won't go or Jesus doesn't do or whatever
the case is like he's in everything I do
even if I'm messing up if I'm doing even
if I am in error and I'm making the
wrong decisions like he's their man
he'll never leave me and he'll never
forsake me well he will forsake you if
you're doing my bedrooms
he'll give you over to your sins and you
know no he'll never leave me he'll never
forsake me and so it we had some
beautiful encounters in but like I said
we have to preface that because it's not
like somebody listening who just
stumbled upon this podcast and hey
there's some guys saying they had a good
time doing mushrooms and God spoke to
him let me try it well we were speaking
to God for months and years you know up
to that point - so you know you get you
to get get out of it what you put in it
is all about intention like we were
talking about before we went live this
time where the guy was trolling you who
was trolling me on my channel about is
it all in your head are you just
delusional are you making it all up you
know what if it's just all in your head
and oh yeah you know well it's some of
it is to be honest ok I'm completely not
coming from a position of any experience
with drugs at all so I just I'm just
look I'm learning I'm learning from you
guys I would think about the future for
my children what I want them to try
stuff I mean and what position will I
take if I find out you tried mushrooms
like well I might have a more balanced
perspective on it I'm still not gonna do
it but I feel like you know a lot of
this stuff it's just is it real or not
that's all I want to know it's like not
just how emotional do I feel when I'm
getting this prophecy it's like this
this prophecy actually work because if
it's true I want to follow it yeah if
it's not then it's time to you know like
God is gonna rearrange the way that we
you know when you're for example when
you're reading some of these revelations
that people are getting a lot of the
mystics a lot of the different
Christians with different experiences
like the John Crowder's and the Brandon
Barth ROPS and and I know that they all
don't agree with each other but like
Justin Abraham and Neville Johnson and
the list goes on and on can you actually
try that can you go to the court system
of heaven and pray for those kids locked
in cages and pray for those Hollywood
actors and pray for the presidency and
the NFL and all this stuff and the fact
is you can and it's not about emotional
attachment I mean we musicians I'm from
a musical family love that feeling but
I'm just like what is true you know it's
like the feeling is real but maybe it's
not always a good thing to be scooted
around by a demon that's showing me how
all the missionaries in my base have
these different weaknesses in there did
you see that did you see what Simon does
and he's like I see my missionary friend
he's like
he's like this nice bastard but in this
vision and this astrological trip or
whatever by the way this is mms this is
this is one of my drugs here this is
something that is strictly against the
pharmaceutical industry anyway cancer
you know what you know there's no other
topic the whole thing about that it
doesn't matter and it depends on if it's
real for you and honestly as much as I
love those people you named I think the
majority of the time they're making it
up as they go I really do with all of my
heart that they're making it up as they
go does it work it works according to
your faith do you believe it works well
yeah where it works that's how that's
how the universe is there's so many
different realms and levels and
dimensions and realities here that
whatever you believe it exists so as a
man thinketh in his heart so shut you
know so so is he or so shall it be like
whatever you want to create whatever you
want to manifest and so if you think
that you're schizophrenic hypochondriac
and you go out into the sunlight and the
sunlight burns your skin you're gonna
have a fear to go outside your house and
you're gonna be limiting you're gonna
live your life that way when we have
these these encounters with with Jesus
or whatever or even we can we can say
mushroom or or without the mushroom just
spiritual encounters did I meet angels
on mushrooms well it doesn't matter if
those were real angels or not but when I
left my experience my manifestation was
that I did and I had the encounter and
to me it was real and I think they are
real but people will laugh and scoff and
think we're crazy when we talk about
this stuff but it like you have the
experience if you have a nightmare where
something like God comes to you or devil
comes to you and and scares the piss out
of you and it changes the it changes the
path the course that you were gonna make
maybe you were gonna I'm just gonna
throw something out there hypothetical
maybe you were gonna rob somebody and
you're plotting and you're thinking
about robbing someone and you have a
dream that when you rob this dude you
got
shot and and as a demon came to you did
a demon really come to you and warned
you in your dream well when you wake up
your your your reality changing and
you're gonna live your life as that
happened and in it it's it's real to you
it's real to you nobody can talk you out
of it
it doesn't matter if it was real or not
but the outcome and and the experience
of what you you took away from it and
the guy who led me to the Lord man and
he has amazing encounters man he his
encounters early on getting baptized
with the Holy Spirit in a room by itself
with Jesus and just poured the Lord
poured hot oil on him and it was running
down and like it's scared him anointing
oil and and it blew his mind so he has
all these crazy encounters but he would
lock himself in his room for 2 3 hours
every night praying meditating and
reading the scriptures and and and he
what he left that room with power when
he put his hands on people things happen
when he prayed things happen but and he
was with a woman at a time he was
married to this lady and she would mock
him for seeking God as much as he did
and say all you missing out on all the
fun stuff and you're doing this and what
if that stuff y'all doing ain't even
real and he's in and he responded he
said well if it ain't real you know in
the end we had fun we didn't hurt
anybody and we helped a lot of people so
if it was real or not my experience was
and I lived in my life as it was this
most of these people in these churches
are delusional man I get them in my
inbox every day people thinking that
they're the Archangel Michael and oh
gosh a Metatron and they they're on and
like they don't antidepressants and
people on all kinds of pills and stuff
man but I don't know what goes on in in
people's heads but I know that it's
powerful and it changes you I'm sent
away they get that we interact with
people and there's just there's just
different levels to it man I think a lot
of these people are full of crap dude I
really do you
because I've seen so much of the good
and the bad on the in the light and the
darkness and I can see through a G I can
see agendas well you know I can see
through it I can see if people are
operating out of hurt or out of
manipulation I can sense this stuff and
a lot of people can if you if you flow
in a gift of discernment and you learn
how to Titus how to see and be a seer
but to see the intentions of the heart
Jesus did that Jesus would walk upon a
crowd of people and he would know their
intentions and he would make he would
make his next move based upon that you
know what what he would read their of
their mind he would read their aura
their spirit and he would he would go
the other direction and knew they were
wanting to kill him or whatever the case
is and so it gets into really weird
ground and just because it's fake just
because they're making it up I'm not
okay in it but are they helping people
like is it really doing good or are they
doing bad because they're making it up
and using the name of the Lord in vain
I'm not sure um we do have another call
here this is one of your friends aren't
Johnny
welcome to oh man hey I just wanted to
call in I won't keep it short but you
know as you know that I own the fringe
radio network and Michael is like my boy
he's my right-hand boy he's really
running it along with man I just worked
all day setting up the DNS for Fringe
video network.com I wanted to helps
people look at it and tell me what they
think there's nothing there it's just a
front page that I wanted to know what
people think of the design and tell
people that were expanding into the
fringe video network as well we stick it
better watch out oh I think things
brother talking about I just told
I wasn't even listening I just dialed in
oh we're talking about you this is a
follow I'm not even in the studio this
is actual sound like a munchkin on the
cell phone maybe a little jumpy out of
this precious studio and what does he
sound like he sounds like this of the
iron junior next time we'll come on the
iron shell will both be like deers in
the headlights deer the headlights when
you start up that intro what are you
talking about drugs spirituality you
know I'm about to promote my book you're
promoting the fringe video network calm
well one thing we were talking about is
how you know a lot of these we just
named a bunch of names of everybody into
like the mystical Christian movements
and stuff and talking about what if some
of these people are making it up as they
go which I really feel like they are and
and and the power that they they have in
the teaching the power behind their
teachings about accessing heaven and
petitioning heaven and is it causing
harm if it's real and if it's if it's
helping people and is it a bad thing you
know it's kind of talking about that a
little bit too cuz they're I mean cuz a
lot of these guys have come we have
conflicting stories so is it the Holy
Spirit that's telling this guy this a
little bit and telling him that and
their stories are conflicting and or is
it that they're making it up as they go
or they're a little bit delusional you
know cuz that's what me and Peter good
game I don't know if you guys know Peter
good game he's like a legend we came up
with the concept of reverse discernment
because we're really into the signs and
wonders community not active in it but
really liked it and we're you know we're
really aware that there's a lot of BS
you know mixed in with it so you have to
use reverse discernment
and people only think of discernment in
one way they think of discerning the bad
right now doing some things you go right
okay right okay well reversed assignment
a concept we came up with it is agreeing
that there's good and bad there and then
discerning the good pulling that out
adding that to your theology in your
worldview as long as you have a really
good background you have to have a good
theological background you should just
go into this signs and wonder stuff
blind with no formation you have to know
your Bible you have to spent a lot of
time in decent you know bread and butter
plain vanilla Bible studies and theology
before you ever get involved with it you
know because yeah if you don't know what
you're looking for some of it could be
dangerous there's their salvation
theology a lot of it is real dangerous
when you get into the Pentecostal
Assemblies of God the fivefold all the
charismatic most of the charismatic and
really I mean if you leave if you sneeze
you lose your salvation you know you
have to get it back you know and that's
right there's a lot of real good stuff
in there you know you gotta be able to
yeah so anyway I didn't mean to take
over here know exactly where we were
headed and that's the conversation we
just had that even though that there is
a bunch of BS and they are making it up
they're helping people I get so many
disturbing messages about Brandon ball
drop and my affiliation with him and me
interviewing him and he believes this
and he believes that and I can't believe
you promoted him and it's like look he's
it's working remember what was the
question at the very beginning Michael
what's working for you guess what what
what what Brandon boss top is doing is
working
he's helping people man people are
getting off the dope they're getting off
a hard drugs and they're coming into a
relationship with Jesus Christ even
though I don't agree with the majority
of what he teaches
I see the fruit in it
understand that one thing that he's
doing and the armchair investigators
aren't that he's act he's actually out
there making a difference and making
disciples and helping people man and I
don't care how you do it if you're
making this world a better place and how
friends or how crazy or silly it looks I
don't care
I really don't so my hats off to Brenda
bought up I love that dude yeah I stand
in total agreement with you you know I
mean same here I I would echo the same
exact thing that you would say about him
you know and then it's kind of like you
can I can sum it up with that old
question you know what translation of
the Bible is the best and the answer is
the one you will actually read is
reaching that you're gonna miss yeah
exactly yep they're not gonna listen to
me and you know and that's I think
that's why God's you know blessing this
platform as I'm able to go into places
that the church is not gonna go and and
we don't go as hey you know we want we
want to get your decision to follow
Christ and it's not
I don't promote this as a Christian
platform and and it doesn't have to be
there can be shows what we don't even
mention Jesus we just talk about
spirituality and life and things and and
God's blessing it man many people are
coming into relationship with Christ
Center and and and you know they're I'm
gaining trust with people who would have
never ever picked up a Bible and these
people are messaging me where do I start
brother I say you start in your prayer
closet ask God to reveal himself to you
open up the book of Matthew open up the
book of John and ask God to reveal
himself and I say I guarantee you I
guarantee you that it will if you're
really seeking them and man people are
coming into relationship with Jesus man
through that and they're calling me up
and they want prayer and it's been
something beautiful but you know I've
put my neck out there you know I'm
saying to be put on the chopping block
because of the fringe stuff we talked
about and you know and not being scared
but we're I don't know what God's doing
with this platform
and and and not just mama but what you
guys are doing because it's very similar
God's using it man and for such a time
as this where the the churches are I
guess neglecting the gifts of the Spirit
and the things that see my fringe and
kooky or things that go bump in the
night when if you don't answer their
questions they're gonna run to the New
Agers and the new ages are definitely
gonna answer their questions they've got
they're gonna tell them what's that
what's happening so we have to step up
as the body of Christ and not just let
them go by the wayside people are having
spiritual encounters as as children and
they have no idea how to explain it how
to shut it up how to fine-tune it they
don't know what's going on and and what
we're doing is very much needed right
now
yeah Johnny Johnny's got a very good I'm
glad he's on here because he he's been
around the block with this stuff and
he's got a lot of discernment and he's
also incredibly open-minded so we should
actually have Johnny as the official
guru for some of this stuff that we're
seeking yeah man yeah I I'm the official
old man and that's for sure
I'm definitely you guys's elder I keep
doing my friend you're like obi-wan once
you do nine years of podcasting and
radio casting yeah you know there was a
time before World War two when this
whole fringe ministry of yours and mine
and and Mike Michaels would have really
no value but not now not since the
aliens landed at Roswell I mean we're
right on the cutting edge now so I mean
they can put us down they can badmouth
this they can say all kinds of stuff but
but they and us are gonna stand in front
of Jesus and who and who is going to you
know I was going to feel better in that
day I mean you know I mean Jesus when
you're coming into the kingdom yeah I
mean you'll be looking at you but I
think he's gonna be paying a lot more
attention to the ones coming in behind
you that you're bringing in that's my
rock you can't back that up with
Scripture probably but maybe
no but you have so much value and you
just need to keep you just need to keep
doing it man you're reaching people I
can't we're all fringed me you and
Michael but I mean you're a rapper and
you're and and you know you're kind of
in that culture there nothing not in I'm
in a different fringe culture but yeah
you got to keep on going cuz you got
value did I mean I think yeah I think
what Alan Davenport said to me that the
the spiritual side on both sides of the
fence all know me by name is what he
prophesied over me and I'm sure they
know you even better and I'm sure they
know Michael's name even better than
either one of us so we gotta watch each
other's back we're building a wall here
we Trump's got the physical wall we
ritual and I've got the wallet China
mm-hmm
what is the backbiting and stuff and
fighting that's in the fringe community
now which didn't used to be but as we
get bigger and bigger we're gonna see a
lot more of that and I think that we
really need to stick together I mean
we're not gonna agree on everything on
every little thing you know yeah we got
to shine that we've done a couple shows
where we address that and that's just
something that I don't understand for me
it's a turn-off you know it's when some
of the friends people who have a small
following but like I said when you
flowing that the gift of the sermon you
understand where that comes from like
you that you can't honor somebody and
you have to steer people away from John
Crowder it's because you're trying to
build your following yeah hey guys watch
I like John Carter but I wouldn't I
wouldn't listen to him guys be careful
you know it's because you're trying to I
think anytime that we put salt on
somebody it's because we're trying to
make ourselves look better and I said I
see through that and but I see like you
said the reverse discernment that's I've
been practicing that for years now I
didn't know it had a name but it's it's
awesome though it's awesome to kind of
use it for the other way
versus seeing the negative in everything
and this demonic watch out hey that's
demonic number you know what there's
some good in this brother man I see
potential in this dude man I could see I
could see I see I see them in a few
months from now or a few years from now
I'm gonna hang in there with them you
know that type of disarmament can you
discern yeah you know if you're local
you know spirit-filled Church you know
people are gonna get wound up even and
even in front of Benny in Everybody
Hates in there's gonna be a hundred
people lined up most of them are faking
it the most of them are faking it some
are going on to some power suggestion
but transformers are actually getting
real exactly all it's actually doing it
I like I like all these guys in the
early days TD jakes creflo dollar I'm
sure all of these dudes start it started
out man if you go back and read Benny
Hinn's early work man good morning Holy
Spirit welcome Holy Spirit about
transcendental encounters with Jesus
praying in his room for 14 hours reading
his Bible and Jesus stepping in his room
and fellowship with the Holy Spirit like
that's the kind of stuff that I was into
when I got born again so I was led to
his work obviously it's not the same now
but early Benny Hinn man he was on to
something dude just like all these guys
you know Mike Murdock all these Kenneth
Copeland I'm sure these dudes started
out in a pure place man I really do but
now a lot of these dudes I don't I
wouldn't I would never send anybody you
know I'm saying their way of everything
kills it
sorry institution lazy cycles everything
money yeah Michael said before which is
a really profound statement as these
kinds of things happen whenever uh the
church tries to organize yeah I mean it
should be organized unorganized let's
start a church the three of us guys
or go in well you know what it comes in
a pair to Israel is when you start a
church or you start a ministry and it
revolves around one man just a pastor
the pastor is the overseer of everything
versus having the prophets the Apostles
the evangelists the teachers all being a
board of members or board of people that
flow in each of those gifts and if we
when we do we do that in small prayer
meetings all the time and it works
marvelously people have testimonies and
songs and share and I feel like the
spirit wants us to go this way and and
being led and we trust each other each
other's gifts of discernment and what
we're good at and it flows marvelously
versus like okay this is a service that
we've planned out and I'm the pastor and
man that that's what it really means to
be the body of Christ of everybody
coming together in having the true file
fold ministry coming together it's
unstoppable the body the description
says that that uh upon this rock he'll
build his church in the gates of Hell
shall not prevail against it oh why is
the the gates of Hell prevalent against
most of the churches and people come out
of the churches more confused than
whenever they went in man you know
because they see us fighting another
yeah every other sermons about money you
know what I kind of I kind of disagree I
don't see the church at least American
churches having really that much of a
deficit I mean I'm sure they all get
their problems but I mean I don't I mean
what the only thing they're not doing is
providing an answer for for fringe
questions you know what about the aliens
you know what about demons what about
angels you know what about the Giants
some of that stuff is eight that should
be like ABC stuff for you and it is
though that's why the scripture says
that the spirit of the prophets is
subject unto the prophets most churches
have kicked the prophets out and anybody
have have any type of prophetic England
if they've kicked them out I remember
because kid
we're talking when I talk about grown
people who are well-versed in doctrine
having disputes about religious matters
I'm talking about kids who are having
angelic encounters and hearing voices
and seeing shadows and then even if it's
a good thing like in angelic voices you
know and and you go to the pastor and
they say oh that's just we'll pray it
away
let's pray it away and then nothing
happens and so this is like I think
that's some some elementary stuff I
think that what almost 90% of Jesus's
ministry was dealing with spirits and
demons you know and it's a minute we
forget to even the word ministry like
I'll tell you some inside baseball
what's happening around the show that
I'm doing spirit wars and with a lot of
people at the fringe radio network is
that we have a resident prophet Allen
Davenport that's been coming on pretty
much every other show and Cassandra
likewise but I mean everybody carries a
different gift and what are they doing
with their gifts they're ministering to
other people like all the people that
have been sort of satellite Anor engaged
in this this conquest of the Spirit that
were involved with are taking heavy fire
you know Dan was gonna come on today and
he couldn't because he's lives in
Honduras or Guatemala and he just
couldn't get a good connection but he
was gonna share some of his battles and
then here comes this prophet guy and
he's doing a show and you know it's
interesting and I figured I was gonna be
another one of these guys that just
talks about the fivefold ministry and
whatever he comes in here and he just
starts like taking out his props you was
like oh my gosh and you know you're like
my friends of mine that live here with
me they're like shaking and weeping when
he gets prophecy for them and you know
it works that's the thing is that it's
people using the gift to actually heal
people especially in this battle zone
and we need it and we need teaching I
mean we don't all need to be that guy
yeah but we need to know what is Derek
but Gilbert talking about view from the
bunker we need canary cry radio these
other guys that do such a good job and
we're not competing with each other
because there's so much territory
I wish there was like a thousand Eric
gross skirts we need to clone truth Sica
and get more of these because there's a
lot more people out there that are
waiting to be reached and the gifts are
just gifts you know we can I'm all in
I'm kind of the spirit nerd you know I
just published my book about kind of the
spirit traveling and it's fiction but
it's based off of actual experiences and
things that I've seen and it's just like
it sounds like sci-fi so I might as well
as sci-fi eyes it the book started
coming true things in this book started
happening and I'm just like man there's
just so much ground to cover if you're
out there you're listening you should
start a show you should start a YouTube
channel
everybody should have a blog everybody
should get involved within a few years
you're gonna get picked up by the fringe
radio mothership that's going to come
pick you up and and just you know add
you and it is you know we we all are
needed God's got something to share just
through you share your truth whatever's
working like I want to know yeah I'm
still on the journey I have not arrived
I need I need help as well we need each
other and like I said I think that's why
I try not to get into the conspiracy
theory stuff too much I just like to
what works like and people may say what
aliens and stuff that's conspiracy know
this it's it works man like it's I've
had encounters and and things like that
so it's not like a theory of something
that I don't know where I can't prove or
it hasn't happened in my life you know
that's right yeah that's what really ins
work for me all right so we got Martha
it's a lot of that Brandon and monsters
a lot of that's harmless
you won't even really actually dangerous
stuff like these Hebrews guys you know
what a ministry what are the key
ministries I was just telling somebody
today they're trying to send me that you
realize when they key ministries they're
really they're really evil
could you say that a while okay now give
me an example I mean one of their videos
demonstrates to you how Jesus did not in
fact die for you he only died to reunite
the northern and southern kingdoms of
Israel so really I mean if you're not
one of them you need to just kind of
give up okay that's the injury I've been
a part of those groups man I've been a
part of those groups that that that
Jesus only died for the black man did
you get deliverance did you get
deliverance honest I did oh you did I
really yeah
oh no they were and I would try to I
would try to you know explain it and say
well let me just listen because these
guys got a lot of truth and they did
they know a lot of stuff in them
scriptures that you were never here on a
Sunday morning sermon and it was new to
me and it made the Scriptures become new
again to see somebody teaching stuff
that I had never heard and breaking it
down with chapter upon chapter first
upon verse but yeah and it was beautiful
but some of the stuff they get into is
like and then I would just tell myself
ah I don't believe that I could just
listen and just hold on to the good
stuff and spit out the bones you know I
would say in the church and uh but no
eventually just keep hearing that stuff
man you start it's you know I thought I
really think that repetition reduces
resistance and the more and more we hear
something the more we begin to let our
guard down to it and maybe begin to
question it or or it could be real or
even just something consciously it gets
in you know I had to I had to confess
some things to some brothers in in
prayer and uh and when I did I felt that
release and I've sought the Lord in
tears and I literally felt like the way
I was not going to be able to see
Christians the same way again us and and
because of that all the stuff I had been
studying for months under these guys I
confessed it to them and it left and I
felt the Spirit of the Lord come in and
forgive me and I confessed it to my
brother and so the scriptures are true
if we confess our sins one to another he
is faithful and just to forgive us so
that's what it's about confessing it
don't hold it in whatever you're dealing
with in it what
man and so we're talking about what
works for you that works and I'm gonna
share that because it works
man look not the Lord Jesus Christ let
him be anathema that's pretty much it I
mean just you guys both love Jesus
that's all I need to know it was pretty
cool though I never thought I was
confessing your way out of bad theology
pretty cool yeah a lot I've studied
under a bunch of groups man I've studied
and once I was really big into the
Hebrew Israelites and that kind of stuff
I went to work with a group of
electricians who were card-carrying
Klansmen in Mississippi and and they
they believed that the the the people of
the Bible are the white man and the
white men are the Jews and they tried to
sit me down and teach me that stuff and
I'm going back and forth with these
people on the jobsite and they hand me
their Bible to look up a scripture and
in my Bible I have all the scriptures
about spirituality about blessings about
I'm gonna bless you and I'm a father
unto you and you are called and my grace
is sufficient like those are the
scriptures I have highlighted in my
Bible they handed me their Bible to look
up a scripture and from Genesis to
Revelation the whole Bible was
highlighted with highlight a marker of
scriptures about how the white man is to
rule and reign on the earth and how you
know the black men are the infidels and
and you're not supposed to even even
share the truth with them and all kind
of people did some crazy belief systems
out there man I've had to work my way
through a lot of that about the Asian
man I'm I'm reporting here from the 1040
window I got to deal with these
Buddhists like every day and it's like
walking through soup sometimes men but
hey second Corinthians chapter 1 yeah go
ahead really
well that's why the Bible is really
clear
about Israel I mean if you really if you
really want to know what Israel was it's
very clear I mean it shows you how they
were a mixed nation not a race they had
nothing to do with a race they were a
nation they were the nation of Israel
nothing right not the race of Israel and
they were made out of all races on the
earth even back then and if you read
your Bible in the Old Testament it will
show you all the different races that
had come in and joined it could become
the nation of Israel right I mean even
from the very beginning there's no such
thing as an Israel rate Abraham wasn't
an Israeli he was a seminarian yeah
Sumer
okay the Sumerians day they were a
little bit mixed themselves they weren't
a race they were a nation I mean they
had some real dark black within African
guides and some Egyptian looking guys
and some Asian looking guys that's
ancient Sumer right there makes nation
right so Abraham didn't even come from a
race he came from a mixed nation became
Israel his descendants whatever race
Abraham was right but right away they
started mixing in with other races and
you read your Bible it's so easy to see
it so easy you know and by the time we
get to Egypt it names them as a mixed
multitude and and what it says mix it
means mix that's why today you have Jews
in Israel who are black who a Chinese
who are white who are Hispanic who are
Egyptian of you they're always you're
like oh my god you I think it's very I
think it's cool that in the New
Testament to when it talks about Israel
and who was a true Jew and says a true
Israelite is one who
one inwardly or spiritually that makes
you Israel and the word Israel simply
translates to what child of God children
of God the Israelites so that's the
thing that kind of solves that we got a
question we got a couple people on the
phone lines they've been waiting
patiently for a while I'm gonna go ahead
and bring these guys in
we have a caller from South Carolina
caller who was speaking with this is Ann
and hey guys I'm enjoying this way hey
thanks for calling how are you hey howdy
I'm talking with everything I've been
saying trying to track I've got to get
in on the show she rolls in so much
revelation constantly she's amazing
awesome
we'll do it make it happen how are you
doing in yeah get in with Robin Maine on
together the earth would would crack in
half it's been a crazy day
the most recent word I've received from
the Lord is he's just if the word is
headed CH e sed it means God is
expanding and that he is reproducing
himself and we're talking about this
camp and that camp and oh well we like
what they do or were used to like what
they did in a rubbish truck
this is I walk you know perfectly but I
was just thinking about that word I just
received and he's saying he's going to
reproduce himself that's good and I
accept that
I think it's really a new thing but I
can't really elaborate on it I get some
I get some downloads from what dance
what Anders said I
it's really about that intimacy with
Jesus that it's just like he's rep he's
reproducing himself through us through
the bride creating something new he's
always and he's even using this
technology and look how good truth
seekers that using it all this darn
fangled contraptions and I mean this is
definitely going to reproduce into
something brand new that we've just
never seen before because we can share
this information talk about it so easily
mm-hmm I'm sure your mind probably
starts running crazy to just just
thinking of all the artistic ways that
that that that truth comes across or
even like looking at stranger things of
this virus that is just reproducing
itself on the television show stranger
things and communicating with through
nature and through through people and
things like that man just this yeah this
notion of having a picture of what it's
like for something to reproduce itself
and to take over to take over different
streams of consciousness to get its
agenda across man and that's that's
that's it that's a strong word I've
heard it I've heard it in the past but I
definitely feel like that's the what
this spirit is doing not with what any
man is doing or something that we can
try to coin the phrase or or mark it but
it's what this just happens organically
you know to the body of Christ and one
thing that I love about your approach to
all this too and Anne's approach too is
that you're able to look at the stuff in
the Illuminati conspiracy stranger
things world of MKULTRA and all this and
not get afraid of it but just be feel
challenged by it like all right that's
what the devil's got it's all stolen
from the kingdom what does God got what
does he have for us because are we just
after you know oh I just wanna have
another spiritual experience or is the
kingdom of God actually gonna start
manifesting and are we really going to
band together and find the truth
together we're going to seek and knock
and the door will be opened
just like in stranger things but instead
of demons coming into our house we might
actually find a way to open portals
between our house I mean this this is a
goofy green screen that I've got behind
me I could leave literally put anything
on
and have a portal to anywhere just
visually but at some point this
technology this is old technology in the
future we're going to be going to a
place where as we're going into
augmented reality and shared
consciousness as DARPA
researching the brain chip interface
stuff we're going to go into something
that is just it's extra dimensional and
all the thoughts in your heart are going
to be manifested so we have to be
grounded in the Word of God people need
to really know what is the truth that
they don't just start doubting which way
is up or down like most people I know I
decided flat earther I might show the
other day it's like oh there's such a
thing as gravity ok please and you know
but that's where we're going it's gonna
get a lot worse flat earth is just the
warmup sorry flat earthers I love you I
just interviewed one but I'm just saying
that there is nothing that they won't be
able to to deceive you and make you
think that now you have the secrets you
have the real secret of the Bible
because you discovered that black is
white and white is black could you
everything about that and then the next
thing eventually did you know that
actually Jesus is Lucifer Lucifer is
Jesus and I'm telling you people get it
I mean Luciferians that's what they
think they think that Christians are bad
and they think that Lucifer is good
you're like what yeah hello by the way
the earth is overpopulated
have you realized what you sound like
have you ever seen Google Earth just go
to Google Earth it just zoom out three
or four klicks and then tell me that
again you know I'm saying all conspiracy
yeah and you know what and there was
yeah yeah yeah I've got I've got the I
went I went back for the god of the day
because there was a there's a conspiracy
I think it's about today I think the
conspiracy was about today I don't give
myself over to these things but they
they cross your stream when you on
social media and you got people of every
sect that follow you and they're just
friends cross paths or whatever about
this whole
a grid shutdown thing of this EMP
testing that they oh yeah is it today or
tomorrow as it was it the force
yesterday for me I don't know today okay
so I think it was it's already over it's
exactly like all these people were
posting this stuff and I'm getting on
there sharing articles was like it's not
gonna happen
stop doing this stop doing this and I
share an article and they just unleash
on me I can't believe you don't believe
it bro
you're just brainwashed by the
mainstream media I said no how many
times have you are you guys gonna share
these conspiracy theories and give dates
that never happen and they say true
seeker I'm not gonna listen to anything
you say you lost all credibility because
you share the article from a mainstream
site that kind of debunked this I'm like
well if this doesn't come to pass then
you've lost all credibility with me cuz
you're out here promoting fear and
hysteria to people about some stuff
that's made up on the Internet
we're talking about fake news this is
fake news in the highest somebody make
dude I could easily make those articles
up and probably promote it and put just
a few dollars behind Facebook ads that
they start circulating people eat that
stuff up I had a guy on here the other
day who is a conspiracy channel dude
when he goes live we think I have a good
following this guy goes live he's got
600 people watching them instantly
talking about Flat Earth and the
government's gonna kill everybody and
all of this stuff and they love it they
eat it up and I came into the truth
movement under a lot of that stuff you
know but it's disgusting to me now
it's just I don't I hate it man well
it's not about the popularity but it
would be nice to be able to reach out to
those people and it's good I mean I want
to have that back on you reach out to
their audience you know and that's we
need to have that kind of mentality of
soldiers like we're going in there we're
reaching out to these people you know I
want to go on more new-age shows I want
to meet more you just have to watch your
spirit you know don't get too many don't
take too many hits without getting some
healing you know come back to mother
base again but yeah but that's what
we're doing man this Internet is a big
battlefield
and where don't you always find that one
guy yeah
it's a war you know people don't get it
there's this is a bloody war that we're
in spiritually and even just
informational II and yeah I mean that's
who else should we who should we hit up
man who's on what's on the hit list of
the truth seeker the next you know I'm
trying to I don't have anybody that's
why we're just make shifting something
tonight man like I've I have to stay
stirred up I mean most people want me to
just to get on here and and share what
I've what I've come to learn I don't
just like get on here touting about
myself and about wisdom and stuff it's
fun but I'd rather have I'd rather do it
in discussion form and how we can kind
of dialogue back and forth a little bit
with it I'm open I've had a couple of
the of the other of the following some
of the people in the audience who have
sent requests on some people that I need
to look in I see miss Carol and she's
coming right now she sent me a name was
somebody to check out so even even the
guy who I interviewed about the
conspiracy stuff it was a suggestion
from one of the patrons say hey check
this dude out I love your music I love
his music check him out I got him on the
show I did him a favor we had a good
discussion I guess I kind of felt like a
jerk a little bit because I was
denouncing a lot of conspiracy theory
stuff while he was on you know he was
cool about it but I was just setting the
record straight I'm not into that I'm
into spirituality and what to bring
change and change people's lives versus
like theorizing and the government's
trying to kill us man and what are we
going to do how we're going to escape
like I've been there it's fun stuff
though yeah that's what Carolyn said she
said what true seeker just said I think
a lot of the population is simply bored
in crave right the stimulation yeah you
have a lot of comments here all the
people on the chat want to come on
they're like it'd be me cool chrome 13
atom star seed Baker land god bless you
of Christ soldier of Christ yep
Isaiah Saul devar I'm going after Andrew
basiago Andrew basiago president
20:20 and uh okay who's that other
super-soldier guy from mars uh shoot
captain kay i want to get in touch with
these guys I mean we should just go back
and look at all the Project Camelot
archives mMmmm every guest some to just
go after every guest and go into info
work check all the info worst guests
let's go after it let's get some more
you know but you know what doable for me
part of me still has to be has to use
the discernment for the platform and I
say that after having Jordan Maxwell on
you know I had him back on okay what
happened in it the same thing the same
thing I got a lot of views I got a lot
of subscribers from it which was the
goal was to get him one and and now in
the midst of this conversation of a
video that's now at like 34,000 views
because of his name not because of
anything I've done but to get his people
on and let me kind of interject my truth
in there and maybe I can say some things
that resonate with them or and I did got
a lot of subscribers hurt a lot of
people and so I will have those people
on because of that but but I don't want
somebody on here lying and making it up
as they go even though I was saying it
is it harmful I'm not promoting that I
want you to be authentic I want you to
really believe if you really believe
what you're saying we I think we can
build with that so I don't want somebody
on here it was like actively knowingly
deceiving people which I there's a lot
of them in the christian mystic movement
I think Jason Westerfield one of them
man I think even the showing where he's
at now but who knows he might really
believe that stuff I don't know man you
know and I hate that man it's weird
I hate to throw those names you got a
call coming in I know I'm I mean okay I
made up a book I wrote a book I'll write
it in the chat right here I just
published it it's for it's not expensive
but I made up some stuff but I also had
some prophecy mixed in and I had some
Bible truth and it's an adventure it's a
romance novel and my friend dared me to
write with Enoch
and I just had I went to town with this
thing man I was like all right I'm
making stuff up I'm just writing this
guess what all this weird stuff in that
book came true I got obsessed with it I
got sucked into it
I can't stop writing I've got like 10
more sequels on the way and it's just
you get into the spirit of spirit world
and you think you're making stuff up and
then it comes true Jason Westerfield was
making a lot of it up but he was also
really caught tapping into stuff when it
got dangerous and I know people that
have been on him the power of the
imagination though everything comes out
of the imagine exactly which means what
as the a I am good goosebumps as the AI
is taking over we need to focus on
creativity and what does come through
that channel when you're making stuff up
and what what is inside of you is it
this do you have the Word of God just
like ingrained in you or are you sucked
into every weird imaginary conspiracy a
lot of the stuff is real aliens astral
projection
you know the Illuminati all of it Donald
Trump it's all real no that could never
play there's no way that that Alex Jones
that ever helped the president get
elected that's like a weird alternate
but yeah we do have another we do live
in a world go ahead yeah segue we live
in a world where lots of weird stuff is
true a lot of it so we need your help
caller from Northwest Arkansas who's
been holding on the line patiently who
we speaking with what up guys honey few
some Arkansas on a few some Arkansas
what's up my brother
howdy dude not much alright just sitting
here listening trying to make sense of
half of it I can't say I know most of it
like you understand some of it yeah we
started speaking some really deep
Christianese there that if you don't
know who these these names are that
we're dropping it's gonna go over
everybody's head and that's one you know
maybe you could do your research of just
going back and checking out some of
these names we've mentioned but or not
but you know I'm saying
that tends to happen in these
conversations because it's essentially
we're having a conversation about you
know things that we're into and concerns
that we have and uh so uh Kenneth Booker
says hunter fuse in the building
hey hunter man while we got you on the
line there's some there's some people
listening right now go ahead and plug
your new album because I'm featured on
it we did an amazing track hunter
reached out to me to get me on his album
we did a song and his album just dropped
yeah the album is called let us give
thanks and right now your final Amazon
it's on Spotify I know it's on title for
some reason is not iTunes and I cannot
figure out why so I sent an email to the
people who distributed to me to figure
out what's going on with that and I
haven't heard back from you yet so
hopefully they'll be on iTunesU but yeah
Amazon
oh and Google Play post on Google Play
as well so very much most of them it's
out on with the exception of iTunes so
I'm taking getting to the bottom of that
so but yeah I mean truth is song it was
one of the best ones we did so yeah
that's a good song man you talk about
pain we could talk about stripe we could
talk about faith we could talk about
life yeah that's a good one my shock was
the line just renewed every day by the
presence of God yeah yes yeah I'm
listening to what most you guys are
saying and it's making me cuz again I
can't say I asked a similar level
spirituality as you all are but I've had
my own like spiritual experiences
because I share initial format I've had
given demonic attacks several times and
I also have a really good angelic
experience which was actually very
surprising to find out what was one cuz
I thought it was just a dream yeah and
so just stuff like that just talking
about it gives it more power 3 when I
think about that and then um I heard a
snap Kristen aqua tea or I'm probably
butchering the word how you pronounce it
synchronicity synchronicity yes thank
you
who's I'm speaking to I
again this alone this is this is um
Michael Bastian I think you you may have
spoke with him before oh I may have yeah
I remember yeah yeah my podcast I
remember that yeah I remember sync
synchronicity it's like I've been really
learning to keep my eye out for those
because when you know this even the
smallest moment can be the most powerful
I remember my first big synchronicity
more it was air were driving when you
had illuminate on the show and he was
talking about how he pretty much just
spoke to God saying break my heart for
what breaks yours God yeah and it mayn't
and also to talk to my head
wait this was honest is that so there's
actually a song by Hillsong called
Hosanna and in the bridge it also said
break my heart for what breaks yours
yeah yeah beautiful
glad to make sure yes I just remind
myself that I need to know which I go
God whatever breaks your heart that you
see let it break mine too so I can do
your will yep give me vision I mean I
think I think my favorite Bethel song is
which is a ton of them is my favorite
but the one I'm on is uh my go-to is God
I look to you and it's a getting and one
of the keys the key note verses it says
uh give me wisdom because you know just
what to do and says God I look to you
give me vision to see things like you do
and just simply and that's my prayer man
to see things like he sees them and to
know how he how he sees them assist is
to know the Scriptures I remember when I
came to the Lord I talked about that the
guy who led me to the Lord every
everything we would mention he'd have a
scripture for it and it was about it was
it was applicable and I was like I wanna
I'm gonna be like that one day in early
on I was like I never there's no way I
could learn the scriptures enough to do
that and that now that's exactly how my
brain works
have a every everything that comes in is
filtered through the Scriptures I know
the Scriptures in such a way that I'm
able to kind of use discernment use the
scriptures as discernment you know okay
the word says this okay okay and I know
the scriptures to go to and it's just
you know knowing the Scriptures is
knowing the will of God what he sees you
know the scriptures and you also have a
relationship I think people can feel
God's love through you Derek and they
really sense God's Spirit and you do
have a relationship with him and you
really genuinely love God and you love
others and that's because you know you
could have an AI like Satan who knows
the scriptures and twist them and a lot
of pastors do that and they try to get
what because they've always got an
agenda there's always that thing that
they're trying to get mm-hmm
you know whether it's worship or money
or something yeah and so but you're not
like that you're not just handling the
Word of God deceitfully but speaking the
truth in love and that's the key I think
is what you're doing is you're actually
bringing a lot of healing to people that
they would never set foot in a church
you know you've got some amazing
listeners
it's so cool to just be here hanging out
nothing shifts into your friends this is
so cool it's it's turned into a
community man and who are just
interlinking and friends who bring
friends in and and people telling other
people about it and somebody googling
Jordan Maxwell and finding true seeker
because I had on man it's just too
awesome how just position this in this
season to do this stuff I like that
Keeley got brought up because that also
remind me of some that has been deep on
my mind this past week there's a a
pastor named Steve verdict and he's all
over Facebook and what he's and one of
his little Clips I have to come across
was um he was doing a sermon on
forgiveness and he said the Lord told
him to talk about the nails and his idea
was pretty much the proof was that this
was God was the nail scars that he still
had on his hand and that he's like
the nails hurt you because like because
I'm not until you remove the nails you
could truly learn to forgive others and
forgive yourself because the purses
because the proof of the Lord is in the
healing and so that one sent me because
I'm from because for me it's like it was
in the heart because I got a heart of
gold but it's been pierced so many times
by the nails of everyone just with the
gossiping slandering me just how much
hate is in this world that it's like
every time I remove one nail I have to
learn just the positive side cuz every
time I just want to hold back
it's part of the walk man any man
beautiful and D Kartik
yes t verdicts good man and two he's
he's controversial just because he's a
huge megachurch like one of the biggest
churches out there right now but he just
did a one-on-one sit-down interview in
his church with TD jakes about TD jakes
his new book called soar and that's a
good interview him and in TV Jake's
having a conversation in front of his
congregation and TD jakes was just
really open about spiritual Christian
entrepreneurship and about cool about
soaring and it's a I think I think my
wife's getting me the book for Christmas
but uh it's a I've listened to a couple
a couple of his interviews about the
book and it just came out and it's
amazing just from the interviews I've
seen people talking about it but um
watch that that interview trust me if
you if you have a dream and a vision and
something that you want to build in mind
for the future listen to that it's a a
lot of fire in your heart and give you
scripture about it too and about one
thing you talked about in there it's
about how you know people pray for four
four four chairs and four tables and
stuff and how God didn't give us chairs
and he God never gave us a table but he
gives us would he gives us trees
and then he gives us the ingenuity and
the creativity to go into here this
place we're talking about the
imagination and to create a chair and
and to take the wood and create a table
to create a boat create a uh you know
whatever it is man and he goes into some
detail about that which is really
beautiful and it's true
you're like God give me a give me a boat
give me a chair I'm gonna give you some
wood and I'm gonna let you use your your
brain that I've given you as well so in
your hands and you can you can make one
and create one or to create something
new out of it too so isn't it true that
the enemy is just trying to usurp your
creative potential like you have you
ever been just it's so high in the Lord
or just getting something or you get an
idea of her song or you know as you're
creating this amazing podcast video cast
that then suddenly the enemy comes in
with some distraction that it just jars
you out of it and then just sucks all of
your attention to this little negative
weird cyclone of nothing and you're like
oh my gosh where's my energy gun and you
lose sight of like I was writing a novel
what was I you forget or like what was
that song I was about to you know I mean
that's what the enemy is trying to do
and then he's trying to suck all your
energy out so that all you have the
energy left to do is just go on Facebook
and just do this in a slum we all use it
but it's a slum click click click you
gotta be creating stuff yeah man yeah
we're meant to be little gods with
little G I've been to worship the Most
High
I've been hitting that slum during my
writing process sometimes now because I
push myself so hard and sometimes I'll
sit down to write as far as creating
music and I'll only get a little bit and
it'll hurt my head so much because the
word play and and all of the the stuff
that goes into it now and not wanting to
keep saying the same thing that I've
been saying and how many how many ways
can you rhyme Kundalini and how many
times can you say Holy Spirit and I got
the light at the I got the light tonight
oh Christ
all these Romney words and I've got all
these albums that are along the lines of
the same content but I have to present
it in a new and exciting ways and say oh
you said that on you Rama in the same
word you're saying the same thing so
pushing it so now I'll start writing and
I'll be on a rhyming scheme and I'll
just be researching words and rhyming
words and opening up the dis horas and
have all these apps open dude and I okay
this works okay they don't make sense
and it finally it's like god this is
hurting my head but it but when I have a
finished product it's so beautiful but
it turns me off once I hit that wall I'm
like oh this is hurting my head I've
only got two bars or two lyrics out of
this but I was like you know what
what's progress those two bars and those
two those two lyrics that's progress
I'll come back to it sure let me get on
Facebook let me play my video game let
me do something else get off of it and
then come back to it and and hopefully I
can approach it afresh again or
something but it's starting to hurt and
that's how I've been I guess we call it
writer's block at times you know but
it's writer's block but it's cooped with
perfectionism and wanting to be and
wanting to bring good content and not
just repeat myself over and over and
over and I started playing the piano
again I started I haven't played the
piano in years I had a really famous
piano teacher Ivan Davis when I was just
a new student just I wasn't really good
but he did give me a lot of good advice
for practicing and playing and so
recently I just started to play it again
and and I just divorced myself from the
thinking of how does this sound other
people and just I'm just going to enjoy
the feeling of making sound on the
keyboard and just doing it and man I
felt so much release like I felt like I
could just worship God through the piano
and just or just unload my soul like
like David or something not that I'm so
good but just feeling like it doesn't
matter if I'm good or not I mean this is
it you know write write a book you know
look at all the crap out there in the
bookstore I mean they just have nice
deals of publishers you've got something
to say how much did you write and just
stick into Facebook and flush it down
the face
I get on to all my freedom by now dude I
get out my friends about that I get on
to Dan Dan just doing that Dan will type
freaking for paragraphs about this
revelation about light and how we are
lighting yeah paragraphs and in it I'll
get a flush down on my dude you need to
save that and put it on a website make
it a blog post or we can continue right
to share it
Facebook exactly push it out the way yes
at least you know put it down and start
right in in a book or something that we
can have it for later you're gonna lose
all that stuff dude and I got a bunch
yeah post where your eyes are tired by
the end of it yeah it gets to the point
where a lot of Dan Hill post so much
stuff throughout the day wears just like
he's donating the feeling Indians
posting so much now my dude this is good
though that's the thing it's good but
it's gonna if you're not saving this
somewhere in a document and trying to
you know put it where it's the best way
receive that's the way for me I've got
doing like I've got tons and tons of
knowledge and studying that I've done
over the years and teachings about like
all the stuff we're talking about like I
can do Bible studies on this stuff and
show why I believe in this stuff and I
have scriptures and lines upon lies and
precepts and I can teach it but I want
to make sure that like I want to do it
but I want to make sure it's done in the
best way we can definitely do it in a
podcast through discussion people are
gonna hear it you know but a lot of
stuff is gonna go overlooked so I'm
trying to find the best way to and I've
do it in my music partly there but the
actual will teach it whether it should
be like I don't know if it should be a
Bible study lesson and say okay and
here's the verses and here's the
chapters or in a form of a documentary
and have the Scriptures going throughout
there and have the videos of what I'm
talking about like I'm trying to find
new more creative ways to share the info
that I've studied throughout the year so
there's a lot less studying being being
done now for me and it's more of like
how do I present the stuff that I've all
the gods already given me I think this
begs where we are right now and yeah
not in any way saying like oh wow we
have arrived not saying that but I keep
meeting people who are like well how do
you know all this stuff and I'm like I
don't really know that much look well
you know a lot of stuff that I don't
know and I think what your business
model is really good is that you could
add a lot of free content but then you
also have a patreon and some premium
stuff that people can support you
through and they're going to people it's
just something about human nature like
people don't appreciate things that they
didn't pay for oh yeah so I mean that's
why you've got an Ian Clayton disc set
that cost $60 and people pay it because
they value this man that spent his whole
life seeking God and he has his own
revelation about how to do it and it's
great it's not the thing for everybody
but it's really good yeah and it's very
valuable and I think that's something
that we need to get over the false
humility of like never having anything
for sale and in a way like never having
any value on what God has given you but
at the same time I like Alex Jones his
method of just broadcasting as much as
you can every day you know I'm doing a
show every day now on French radio
network just making it free but then
having stuff that people can value
that's not just like could you please
give me a little bit of money mind that
but being like look here's a book that I
worked on that took my whole life right
here it is and here's my life story and
here's some secret videos about the
Yunus true the indistinct tomb of truth
and knowledge we should both have one of
those like do you want to know the
secret I know right but I mean with
humility like you know making it I'm not
gonna pretend to be some kind of a guru
but yeah I've spent my whole life just
doing weird things and learning about
weird stuff and and it's it's awesome I
want to share it I want people to learn
even from my mistakes and learn from but
you wanna foster that you don't have to
travel all around Asia and so you want
to find the best way to share it and so
then that's why you wrote a book about
Islam isn't you hello what did you what
is that a headphone Michael Vashem what
are you doing okay I can hear you but
there's like a 10-second delay
room I'm les
thank you through my phone my hear me
yeah well we're gonna go ahead and wrap
the show up then this is a good place to
wrap the show I'll come back a minute
you keep talking man
okay so hunter zolomon brother the
YouTube feed yeah that's my dude alright
let's wrap it up man
bless you man all right with you guys
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