Spiritual Encounters | Law of Attraction | The Supernatural Power of Thought | James Goi Jr.
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James goad jr. James brother how are you
man I'm doing real good how are you
doing doing well doing well welcome to
the show yeah thank you for having me
happy to be here
definitely so like I said we're gonna
talk a little bit about it all you've
got books discussing everything from the
law of attraction the power of the mind
the way that we attract things into our
lives or whatever so we're gonna we're
gonna cover that that's a that's a big
subject I think a lot of people who are
watching the these type of podcasts and
episodes usually they want to be doing
the same thing that I'm doing right now
they want to just be living their dream
creating content and being able to wake
up and do what they love for living now
some people that there's a big gulf
in-between like it they have kids now
and
there's no II don't know how they can
make an income doing what they love but
by using the law of attraction there's
different techniques through meditation
and things like that that we could do
that we can kind of get a game plan on
how to dive in and do that stuff so I
want to talk about that first of all man
so we'll get into that a little bit but
first let's give a little bit about your
background about where you come from
with the spirituality and and in the
background with the books and everything
certainly well I was born in New Jersey
and I came to California about 40 years
ago so I'm just about 60 I came I was
about 19 years old my my earliest
experiences with the power normal and
whatnot I can remember back to when I
was in the five to six and a half year
range five to six and a half years old
when I have my first recollections of
having out-of-body experiences
spontaneous out-of-body experiences at
night and in one of those experiences I
I remember encountering a woman from
across the street
she came every night it was quite an
experience but then she died a few days
later and I stopped having she stopped
visiting me so my paranormal type
experiences go way back into early
childhood and I always felt that there
was something that was missing like I
would look around and everything looked
like everybody thought it was but I
always felt like there was something
missing something there right below the
surface that I couldn't know but I knew
it was there shortly after coming to
California I started finding my first
books really I had never been exposed to
this material on Law of Attraction mind
power spirituality paranormal type
subjects and that opened up a whole new
world for me because now I can make a
connection of what it was that seemed to
be missing that now I had found and that
was the unseen realm which is just as
real as real as the scene and also the
connection of my power that human beings
are basically creating work
our lives as we go along through our
thoughts our feelings the images we hold
within our minds and so when I got those
first those you know few missing pieces
in place my whole life transformed I had
already had experiences with divine
intervention before that I've had some
sense where I would have been you know
possibly dead if it weren't for divine
intervention I you know took up when I
learned about lucid dreaming I read my
first book back in the early 90s Desert
Storm time I immediately took to that as
kind of a natural because I was a
natural-born out-of-body experience her
an astral traveler and so I took right
to the lucid dreaming and so I've had
one foot in this dimension and one foot
out ever since I routinely you know see
dead people I've had run-ins with
demonic types of spirits and just you
know the whole gamut of things the the
main book I'm known for of course is how
to attract money easy mind power it's my
first book actually I've written 10
books now but it's still the one I am
most passionate about or let's at least
say promote the most because I believe
that first of all I'm a very spiritual
person but I believe that money and
spirituality are not mutually exclusive
number one and number two I believe that
anyone can improve their lives in
profound ways every area of their lives
if they just had more money and that's
why I'm passionate about teaching people
the spiritual slash mind power angle of
how to attract money into your life you
can attract more money in more
harmonious ways and doing less harm to
yourself if you just understand a few
key principles and techniques that's my
real passion there's a huge disconnect
there with spirituality and money and I
charge for services I do private
consultations and healing sessions and
things like that but being okay with
that because I come out of the Christian
Church so you're supposed to do all that
for free
like that's all supposed to be free
you're supposed to go you know work your
50 you know hour week job be tired
exhausted come home and still be able to
perform these services for free and
so it's there's a real disconnect there
for a lot of people to kind of come out
and say okay I'm doing this but i but I
charge um was there ever a disconnect
for you there cuz I know you worked a
regular job too for some time so from
going from that regular job to being
able to get paid to do what you love for
a living essentially right be able to be
a creative and you know I guess
spiritual entrepreneur even like a lot
of times people don't think that those
words should even go together which
what's your story behind that right well
I do have a chapter in the book on Right
Livelihood so I I think it's very
important that people understand that
ideally you will learn and find a way to
make your living doing what it is you
love to do of doing what you're
passionate to do and what you lose all
sense of time doing doing those things
that you would do even if you weren't
being paid you know I was writing long
before I ever published my first book
and but you know if you look at say a
church situation and a lot of times you
have a pastor or whatever the religion
you're in and you know they spend all
week preparing a message for Sunday
they're not out digging ditches yeah
they're contemplating they're reading
the Bible they're having thinking time
they're they're composing their lecture
and so you know people should not feel
in any way you know that it's demeaning
or less than spiritual to make money in
spiritual endeavors or helping people
and indeed the more money that you have
the more you can help people you know
more freaks oh you have now for me I I
was working a job fair I was almost you
know it was 48 or so years old and I was
so I'm approaching 50 and I'm working a
very low paying job as a caregiver to a
developmentally disabled man now that's
you know the tail end of my working life
I had been a high-powered telemarketing
manager and sales person over the years
had my own hauling service and
security guard were just all kinds of
different work but that's where I was
almost 50 years old and I decided I had
kind of a spiritual epiphany now I'd
already worked on the book been working
on the book for about eight years but
here I was I found my household and
myself we were in $50,000 in credit card
debt and I had this spiritual experience
where I just knew and I was the only one
earning money by the way in the house
but it it came to me and I just knew
that I if I was gonna do this I was
going to have to do it period
and go out completely on faith and so I
quit my job I quit my job with us being
fifty thousand dollars in credit card
debt and with the limits getting very
high compared to what was available to
us so I knew that we would start getting
shut down soon by the cards they weren't
going to just lend us we were borrowing
to live for the what I couldn't make and
we were also borrowing to pay the cards
but I quit my job I went into silence
for the first ten days I was doing some
fasting but what I really did was I
started acting as if it's another
chapter in the book I wanted to be a
self-help author in my mind what does a
self-help author do they stay home and
they write and so that's what I started
to do but I was also completely immersed
in the subject matter I was doing what I
was writing I was only might have
formations my visualization and all of
that and within a three-month period I
attracted into the house 2/6 video in
falls in a miraculous way of course I
wouldn't publish my book for you know
for a year after I quit my job and so
that's one thing I want to tell people
is that whatever it is you're passionate
about that's what you need to be doing
whether or not you're getting paid for
it right now
and I don't tell people to quit their
jobs if something like that was right
for them they would know it they didn't
need nobody to tell them but we need to
be doing what the universe is prompting
us to do because that's where we can be
the most good and if we can make money
at that then that's well and good but a
lot of times we will find it if we're
doing what the universe is prompting us
to do and we're sharing out into the
world
and we're helping other people then the
universe may you know you think oh well
I want to be a writer so I have to make
money writing books money can come to
you in all other kinds of ways and the
universe is really the best employer
ever the benefits package is great and
you but you just have to follow your
boss's instructions if you do that you
will absolutely be taken care of and as
much money as comes to you it's never
too much and it's never not spiritual it
depends on how you get it and how you
use it that's what determines if
spirituality is in the mix do you have a
Christian background at all well I was
raised Italian from New Jersey so raised
Roman Catholic you know and went to you
know whatever they have catechism
classes and they had the confirmation
and all that kind of thing I never
really got much out of church I was
completely bored with it and as a matter
of fact sometimes I would play hooky
from church and go spend the money on
candy that I was supposed to put in the
basket I never got never got much out of
he seemed very dry I couldn't relate to
it but I went you know and went through
those motions but you know quickly you
know like I didn't carry that into my
teens or anything like that I just uh it
was a lot issues for me well you find
out that a lot of these principles are
universal right you're talking about the
universe and law of attraction and it's
in all the holy books it's in all
spirituality you know they just call it
by different names essentially so you're
talking about having all this debt and
then being led to quit your job so most
of us when we're like on the brink we
something's got to happen you know we're
set into despair we want to do whatever
we can to make this happen we just start
trying to pull strings whatever we can
do we got a lot of debt hanging over the
head first of all we think that we have
to pay the debt off and kind of become
you know financially stable or
financially free in order to live in our
dream or whatever it doesn't always work
like that and it usually doesn't work
like that right you don't have to like
like people think that they okay I have
to pay off my house pay off my car
pay off there's pay off that and then
I'll be able to do it I've heard it
talked I've heard it said when we're
talking about a credit card debt is like
with credit cards were spending
tomorrow's blessings today and we're
kind of digging a hole for ourself in
the future to be able to wake up and do
something that we love for a living
that's not you know I guess in the
beginning it might not bring in a lot of
money that we want to figure out how we
can make that transition easy it's
usually not though right well it's quite
often not easy change is always hard
change is always scary but it's about
getting our priorities straight and
really if people are and now we were
fifty thousand dollars in credit card
debt and it wasn't because of being
spendthrifts it was because of going a
really long time just not being that
concerned with money with being
concerned with you know we had we moved
around in different states and over to
why for a while and following our inner
promptings so that what I found is that
the universe always comes around at the
other end ideally though people should
not be in debt if at all possible but
especially for things like a car that's
way more expensive than they really need
or you know things that just you know
for us it was you know just survival
just you know good clean food safe dry
house and that kind of thing and that
got us in that kind of debt it's really
expensive to live but in the act as if
principle you're not you don't really
want to sit there and say okay well when
I get out of debt then I can live my
dreams yeah obviously you're in debt
you've got a you know I need plus you
have to live so you not to keep earning
money most people have to keep doing
what they don't want to do but you know
there's one famous author his name
escapes me at the moment but he writes
some legal you know novels you know
legal based whatever dramatic novels and
he wrote his first novel on the subway
or train or whatever on the way to and
from work so you kind of do what you
have
do but you never let go of that dream
and you'll always work towards it and
you have the end results in your mind
and you have faith and you keep moving
forward you open up to intuition which
is another chapter in the book because
once you program in strongly enough to
the universe in your subconscious mind
what it is you want then your universe
the university or subconscious mind will
start prompting you and showing you how
to get what you want what's the next
step you got to be open to that but as
far as amassing debt for reasons just
because you're trying to live beyond
your means that's not good but I think
credit cards are a great tool if a
person has them or a credit available to
them to survive during those times when
things seem to not be matching up and
we've been in credit card debt before at
one time many years ago decades ago we
were ten thousand me and my life partner
Kathy were ten thousand dollars in
credit card debt and I was doing the
same kind of work at that time because I
came back to that work years later and I
I had already been studying this stuff
for quite a while I came up with one
simple affirmation I thought well if any
of these techniques worked then any one
of them will work and let me pick one
and concentrate on it so I came up with
an affirmation all of my credit cards
are completely paid off and I did that
in the morning and at night inviting my
bicycle across town to the fellows house
that I took care of and within a four to
six week period after that I started
doing that affirmation religiously
basically someone actually gave us a
gift wrote me a check for $10,000 when
they heard about the debt and they had
just come into a whole lot of money and
just gave it as a gift not even as you
know so I had no idea how this could be
done but I knew that with the end result
in mind and just following guidance that
things would be revealed
and so that's what people but I kept
going to my job every day at that point
I didn't quit my job I kept going to my
job and I kept doing my affirmation and
four to six weeks later I was out of
debt $10,000 way back then might as well
been a
million dollars took me probably years
to get into it and I'd had no idea how I
could ever get out of it but there it
was my empower works if you work it and
continue to follow spirit and do what
you're here to do in if you're on the
right path and you're doing it right it
can happen a lot faster than you think
you think oh four to six weeks she's
probably gonna take four to six years to
really map this stuff out become
financially stable get out of debt you
know in our mind just something that's
up you know I'm saying a long ways away
but when we're in you know we want to
call the perfect will of God for our
lives if we're on that that that that
narrow path doing what we're supposed to
do like stuff that would usually take
you years can take you four to six weeks
and that's what happened to me then it
kind of scared me because I manifested
becoming a heel or doing private
consultations and sessions and being
booked up throughout the week making
hundreds of dollars and then I wasn't
ready like it came very fast something I
thought was gonna take years took four
to six weeks for me it manifests it was
there I began to eat sleep and breathe
it and it was there and it came on so
fast that it kind of scared me then that
kind of transition into another question
I want to ask you is that when we
manifest this stuff you know I'm saying
most people can manifest a lot of stuff
you can build a platform a podcast an
album whatever you want to do you can
you can manifest it anybody can but
maintaining it is another story so we
can manifest this stuff but then when it
comes to maintaining it some people you
know we look at Roseanne Barr with a
tweet - she kind of undid years of hard
work I mean self-sabotaging people do
they lash out at people they let people
get under their skin and pull them out
of their character and essentially
destroy the platform even friendships
that you've been working hard to build
for years can be taken away from you in
an instant how do once we manifest this
stuff what I mean how do we maintain it
to make sure that okay this you know I'm
saying my my abilities my passion
my talents can take me to a level that I
need to make sure that my integrity and
my character can keep me at you know yes
well it'll help to remember that the
person who is now experiencing the the
improved circumstances is the person who
created those circumstances and
basically you know the way we bring
something about is the way we maintain
the thing and so you kind of alluded to
it maybe without knowing but people's
mindsets change because before they had
this dream of you know having X amount
of followers on Twitter or you know
whatever happens I'll be and now they're
there and now they can start
second-guessing themselves they can
start not being as much on their game
because now they have what they wanted
but they don't realize that now it takes
maintenance another chapter and my main
book there is on a self-image when we
start stretching out beyond what we
think we are capable of handling when we
start receiving and experiencing more
than we think we are deserving of all of
that comes into play and so you know
it's a it's a cliche and a well-known
fact that more than half of people who
win big lotteries there lose all their
money and even end up worse off and in
debt and with ruined relationships
within just a few years and it's largely
because their self-image
was not of a person that has that kind
of money or that can handle that kind of
money so I think self-image is a big
part of it also responsibility a lot of
people that become very successful out
of the blue and especially young people
you can see it in music you can see it
in in the world of acting and all of
that they self-destruct they they just
go on a on a they seem hell-bent on
destroying their own success and they
don't think that they are but that's
exactly what happens so we if there's a
level of spiritual maturity that we want
to
whatever age were at that we want to try
to attain so that we can keep everything
in an even keel but now having said all
of that I do I am a firm believer in a
concept that I call divine order and
also divine timing so sometimes things
will actually take longer than we want
them to but it's like a safety mechanism
it's our own higher self and a universe
saying wait a sec you're not quite ready
or wait a second this isn't as good as
you think I got something better but you
got to hold on for a while and also
sometimes we could gain great success in
something and then we can start
backsliding and sometimes that's the
universe because there is a built-in
mechanism for good people who are on a
spiritual path that you know we can
definitely with mind power decide in our
conscious minds what we want and work
toward it and a lot of times those are
divinely inspired thoughts and desires
sometimes they're not and then there's
this safety mechanism divine order /
divine time that will help protect us
from ourselves and so if we become more
at peace we become less anxious and less
in a hurry the the world will unfold
miraculously before us our circumstances
and affecting everybody around us will
will really take on the hue and and the
feel of being divinely inspired and
orchestrated but we need to keep our
conscious anxieties and you know out of
the way and just to do our part to try
to be divinely inspired in what we're
working toward and then to follow
through and do our part by following
intuition and inspiration but not being
attached to the end results and knowing
that's something that's your number one
goal in life right now might not be
right for you and the universe is going
to let you know that many times by
putting stumbling blocks in front of you
by the same token those things that are
divinely inspired can have a lot of
stumbling blocks - there's a testing
you've got to earn what you get and or
something can come about you know in one
day and it's really spiritual maturity
and
power you know prowess is all about that
very light touch of wielding these
awesome forces with a light hand and not
being too attached from the human
perspective with trying to quote-unquote
control things we can govern reality we
certainly can but trying to control
things regardless of the feedback we're
getting that's not spiritual maturity
that's really good and with that divine
timing thing is huge you just got to
look back and think you got to be
thankful to like that some type of
conscious entity God whatever is looking
out for you like what if you had this
big platform when you were prideful when
you were arrogant when you were quick to
speak and slow to listen and you know
I'm saying like if you had a huge
platform and you would be able to
self-sabotage early on and then so this
big platform that you've worked hard to
build you've undone it because you
haven't worked through some of your
personal conflict so the universe knows
like puts these obstacles in your way to
kind of build character within you so
that you'll be a responsible thankful
grateful for the platform that you built
because it's more delicate because
you've worked harder to build it versus
something that just oh it's here I
manifested it whatever so that's really
good when we're talking about divine
timing and so with that I believe that
everybody no matter where they are
they're where they're supposed to be
because there's something that you can
learn even if you're getting upset
you're getting frustrated this isn't
where I want to be but in that season
there's things for you to learn that's
gonna help you on that road to get to
where you want to be right exactly and
even outside of the individual realm it
was a Buddha who is purported to have
said if you knew how perfect everything
was he would tip your head back and
laugh at the sky and that's divine order
in a nutshell things you know they in
your own life but also you know how many
times have we heard someone say oh I you
know my wife left me or
lost my job and I thought it was the
worst thing that ever to have her happen
but it ended up being the best thing
that ever happened to me and so because
it led to other things that where they
needed to be so hindsight is easy but
having hindsight in the present saying
okay this is really hard this doesn't
look good this is not what I feel like I
want but this is working toward my best
good in some way I absolutely know that
from past experience and and it can
extend out to the whole world we can
look out there you know we're human
beings we want to judge everything oh
that's good that's bad that's right
that's wrong poverty is bad wealth is
good or wealth is bad and not having
money that's more spiritual so we have
all these judgments but they're really
misplaced because everything is
unfolding exactly in divine order as it
should no matter what it like looks like
and having that understanding then
allows us to become aware of just how
perfect everything is but if we're not
looking for it it might as well not be
because we'll have the experience of
just discord and unhappiness and a
feeling of lack but when we get into the
flow of the universe we'll see that
everything is in this moment the only
thing that could have been based on
every moment that led up to it and
moments are an illusion anyway there's
only one moment there's only the
timeless now and but where we're having
this experience of who into your time
and of you know going from A to B and
the days on the calendar changing but
none of that Israel I mean if we look
into quantum physics just a little bit
we'll realize that at the deepest levels
of creation we used to think there was
you know solid particles inside of atoms
or molecules or whatever there's nothing
solid it's all energy it's all
consciousness and we are basically
creating it as we go and this is modern
science this is quantum physics that you
know it's based on observation the
observer and the Mystics all chimed in
and and and and lend us a hand here that
the observer and the observed are not
the act of observation is in and of
itself a creative act in other words
what we think of what we see how we
judge it what we call it you know call
the beasts of the field this and you
know that's their name it's where it's
unfolding not before us but from within
us and there is no time there's no space
there's no distance there's no
separation the whole concept of
individual human beings is a a
perception there's only one field of
being the Mystics know this the quantum
physicists know this so the deeper we
look into reality the more we come to
the awareness of just how powerful we
are as human beings and as human beings
we can change the way we think feeling
and images we allow to be within our
minds we can we can work magic I mean I
have used mine power to save my own life
I've used my power you know to keep
people from pulling guns on me where
they their hand literally was shaking in
the air this one time where the person
was reaching for a gun and he couldn't
do it I started a dead car in the middle
of the night in the middle of the desert
in the middle of nowhere through mine
power I said this car is gonna start
after it had it had you know conked out
and was basically electrically
completely dead yeah I started that car
I told Kathy I said we're getting in
that car right now and I'm turning that
key and we're driving out of here
because we both felt danger coming down
the road we're both very excited and I
but here's the thing I had never been
more sure of anything in my entire life
I had no doubt that that car was gonna
start because I had no choice but for it
to start
and so the awesome power you know people
say Oh attracting money is that really
possible
that's easy money's not even a real even
if it's in physical form of coins and
paper it's worthless most of it's not
it's just on a on a ledger sheet
somewhere in a bank balance not even
real
that stuff's easy but keep people from
pulling guns on you to start dead cars
to create divine intervention and you
know these other things that's you know
that's easy too but money is easy and
compared to those yeah none of this has
to be hard if we learn the principles
learn the techniques apply them have
faith and just you know everything that
I teach in the book and that others
teach some call it Law of Attraction I
like the term mind power but they're
they're the same thing except for like
in my book I go a lot deeper into areas
that usually you don't hear about in a
standard Law of Attraction book for
instance the connection with with
environment and I have a chapter on
environment and it's huge and most
people don't consider it you know but so
I go deeper than what I would just you
know label law of attraction but it's
all mine power it's all spiritual energy
and we can learn how to use that we can
become just you know stuff that you
watch science fiction movies and you see
oh my god this guy can stop this and he
can make cars start and he makes money
just fly-in hundreds of thousands you
can make a movie out of this but it's
real this power is real that's good um
we used to have a ministry pretty much
where when we first gotten in the church
where we would pull over and see people
who were broke down and we would lay
hands on their car and we would pray and
we would speak to the car that is going
to start we would see it happening we
would pull over and take our time and a
lot of times that car would start right
they've been trying for hours to get a
crank they're stranded we would pray lay
hands on the car and it would crank so
it's definitely possible all right let
me tell you a quick story along those
lines my my life partner Kathy and her
sister were in 7-eleven that they go to
and Linda Kathy sister felt that the
girl behind the counter was in distress
and so she was inspired to give her a
penny and say this is a Lucky Penny
whatever you're going through I forget
the exact words or whatever but this
this is going to help well then
of seeing the woman I don't know if it
was a couple weeks later or whatever she
was actually out on the street going to
be out on the street that night she had
not paid her rent she didn't have the
rent and that's the night she was going
to be evicted she went home and to her
apartment and the manager of the
apartments told her that somebody had
come by that they don't know and said
that they won the lottery and that they
wanted to pay somebody's rent and that
the manager has to pick the person and
of course he picked her and that just
shows the power of intention in handing
over that penny that whatever it is it's
going to be fixed I doubt that was even
really a real person we've had
experiences where people have come out
of the blue and helped us get a car
going in the middle of nowhere and then
just disappear like you don't even see
him drive away it's it's you know it's
otherworldly the kind of things and what
you're talking about you pray over the
car
years ago I knew of a person who his car
was basically dead but he kept it going
with mine power for a long time after
just you know because everything is
malleable everything is energy and
thought and consciousness and we as that
can govern that and none of it is really
against the laws of nature it's only
against what we understand of the laws
of nature after you know having all of
these examples and experiences and stuff
sometimes you may be accepted early on
you may freak out when you get fired
from your job you may freak out when you
run out of gas whatever the case is but
eventually you learn to keep your cool
and you're where you're supposed to be
for reason maybe if you're stuck in
traffic maybe there if you kept going
that would have been a wreck that's a
great way to kind of know that you know
and just to be calming in traffic and
things like that and just kind of be in
the present moment no matter where you
go but you kind of learn that you're
protected that a higher power a spirit
is watching over you and that it's not
by mistake that it's not by chance that
that you hear but it's it's interactive
whether now we can debate what that is
is what is called we've got names for it
who knows if we're right but something's
going on something is conscious of our
existence here whether if it's us in
another realm that's a higher self
looking down at our avatar state very
likely could be and there's Bible
examples where that even could be part
of the Bible right really interesting
stuff but it lets you know that look
I'm taking care of my setback is a setup
you know it my setbacks are a slingshot
to propel me into something like when
we're you know lifting weights or
whatever the cases in bodybuilding we
want that good physique you have to have
some resistance you have to have some
restraint and and at the end of the day
it proves that that's what you want if
obviously we all want good-looking
bodies and muscles and things but you
have to work for it you have to work for
what you want you have to do the
spiritual exercises and taking these
tests as I like to call them once you
start taking them over and over and over
again next time that test comes you get
a setback you get an unexpected bill in
the mail whatever the case is and you
want to freak out and it's so fun it's
not funny but people take these these
levels and these strides and they
accomplish so much stuff in the spirit
and financially or whatever and they're
so spiritually sound and then they get
that unexpected bill and then they freak
out and want to kill themselves and it
gets crazy like it's a high and low and
that is a that's not that's I don't
think that's healthy right we need to
respond the same way every time and part
of that may be as well as you know how
we maintain it as well as not freaking
out being able to keep your cool in the
face of opposition or an unexpected bill
right or gossip or slander even or
imminent physical harm whether your your
car's going off the road you know you
you want to be able to keep your
composure and to remember that if you've
been lucky enough to have identifiable
instances of divine intervention in your
life like you absolutely know that
something otherworldly
happened I had a horrendous motorcycle
accident and I was lifted up literally
people saw this off of the wreckage and
when the might when the the worst of the
crunching with the metal and all was
going on you only need one of those
experiences to first of all be grateful
for that and look back and say okay if
this power whatever it is that's
watching over me whether it's myself
whether I want to view it as something
outside of myself you know my Higher
Self God self Christ consciousness
however we want to look at it if it can
do that if it can defy the laws of
momentum inertia and gravity with
witnesses there I mean if it can do that
what can it do what can't it do what are
the limits well the answer is there is
no limit when we really start to
understand that then we can become more
calm in the face of adversity financial
you know physical or whatever but the
other thing I like to ask the question
is that I like people to ask ok so I had
this horrendous motorcycle accident and
I was you know basically saved from it
in a way that was very apparent and
beyond dispute now other people have
motorcycle accidents and make it
completely mangled there are people who
are in accidents much like mine was a
motorcycle versus pickup and people have
been in accidents such as that they are
maimed for life or they're dead and so
this power that's available to me is
also available to them and so we have to
ask why do some people have this level
of protection why do other people not
why why can we go out and interview
hundreds of people who have had these
experiences and they're walking around
unscathed we could go into the hospital
trauma wards and see hundreds of people
who really got the brunt of it and a
large part of that is frequency and
spirituality because if we raise our
frequency which is really the definition
of becoming more spiritual then we raise
ourselves
the vibration where those types of
things are possible
really or were there even necessary in
other words we are advanced enough where
and you don't even have to know this I
mean you could be like when I had my
motorcycle acts and I was like 19 years
old I wasn't intended he studies yet I
didn't know anything but just the makeup
of who I was already warranted that kind
of protection so it's about frequency so
people who have those types of
experiences I'm not even going to say
it's not in divine order but they
apparently need those experiences to
help to teach them and I want to help
people it really is a you know mind
power like I teach it can be the
difference between wealth and
homelessness
yeah but it can also literally be the
difference between life and death it's
not a game so we can improve our
spiritual connection we can raise our
frequency and our spiritual wherewithal
and substance to the point where we
don't need those types of experiences
and then I also you know you can go
deeper and deeper with the questions I
also ask myself like sometimes things
happen where divine intervention is
needed but you can see where with just a
little divine intervention anywhere
leading up to that near catastrophic
event you know let's say it's an
accident well you could have got a flat
tire or stalled out a block before if
they can keep you know the Kathy had a
semi-truck go through her Porsche
literally and this was witnessed by
another person and she got a call from
that person's a minister or pastor or
whatever about a week later he had
gotten her license plate that he had you
know gotten to be well that he had seen
a miracle my point is that it did that
but it could have just as easily made
her car stall a block away so that that
go the car going through the truck was
not necessary why was it allowed to go
that far
well I think everything is in perfect
order I think we're all building our
strength in mind power and spirituality
and we're also building our trust we
also can then have
we can help other people so everything
is in divine order but if people are
getting you know hurt and if people are
homeless or they're just having terrible
conditions they need to not fight and
resist and rail against the conditions
they need to look inward and they need
to get a grip on their energy their
frequency their consciousness that's the
answer that's how we will individually
rise out of the turmoil and collectively
as a species rise out of all of the
seeming discord and nothing else is
going to work it's only temporary it's
like cutting out some cancer in the body
the body has not been healed
systemically whatever caused that
condition is still there
it's the same with find somebody come on
us some money and we paid our rent but
we have not addressed the situation
which is a systemic problem having to do
with our supply and that always goes
back to spirit and energy and frequency
and consciousness that's where that's
our battleground and that is how
everything else flows from that that's
awesome it reminds me when it comes to
the Scriptures the story of the Apostle
Paul where like he had a mission right
he had a calling on his life and by
reading the story seeing that example
you know in the scriptures it kind of
helps build your faith or whatever cuz
he had a calling on his life and nothing
could touch him until he carried out
that calling and at the at the end of
his race he did what God had put him
here to do nothing could touch him they
were on islands where they were they
were beaten and left for dead by people
who didn't want them there he was bit by
a poisonous snakes all types of stuff
that happened to him and none of it
killed him none of it could could hurt
him I believe that if if he existed that
he he was at that level of frequency as
well knowing that there's nothing that
can touch me and and and you know
whatever happens is the will of God for
me if I'm supposed to be here he's going
to open up
and allow me to do that even stories
like you know other people in the
scriptures like John the Revelator where
they were like trying to kill them and
they did all of these things to kill
them they bored them and like hot grease
and all of these things as the legend
says there are all these things to kill
him they couldn't kill him so they had
to banish him to an island they just put
him on an island by himself supposedly
where he wrote the book of Revelation
they couldn't kill him it wasn't his
time to go and to understand that for
our lives whether it's the scriptures or
it's whether it's hearing a testimony
about what physically happened in
someone you know or somebody you're
watching on YouTube
these stories it builds our faith this
and I relate a lot of stuff back to the
scriptures that's where I come from and
the Bible says faith comes by hearing
and as we're able to hear these
testimonies and hear these stories if he
can do it I can do it and it's not like
you you're on here as some people will
come on here and say well I'm a holy man
I'm the one who is chosen by God and
there's some things that I've learned
and it's only for me because I'm set
apart or whatever the case is but this
is applicable for everyone if you raise
your vibration if you do the spiritual
techniques it does to change the way
that your mind works change the way that
you perceive reality that you proceed
people that you perceive your setbacks
and things that are against you and you
know nothing is against you it doesn't
matter who it is if it's people who are
slandering you it's usually something
going on with them anyway so just
finding out that if you're doing
everything that you're supposed to be
doing to live that harmonious life with
nature with God with people it doesn't
matter what comes against you nothing
shall by any means harm you is what the
scripture says so I love it man it's
good stuff yeah well you know we've had
over the decades together we've had
people that have you know purposely
tried to you know just mess us up
harm us in some way throw stumbling
blocks in our way and here's the funny
thing and we joke about it and we refer
to it now and then is that no matter
what they try to do it not only does not
is not fruitful for them it not only
does not have the desired effect that
they wanted but it actually ends up
working out better for us I mean it's
like it's almost bizarre ya know it it's
like wow we're so glad they did that
because that caused this other thing now
their intention was to cause us you know
strife and whatever loss or whatever but
the outcome of it was just divine and
made us better off than we would have
been had they not tried to do something
and so this when you get into this kind
of level we're talking about with the
rug is right let's see
you're it's almost like you're you're
walking a few inches above the ground
everything is still going on people are
still who and what they are but the way
it affects you is completely transformed
into some kind of a just a dreamlike
thing you're walking and you feel like
you're you're in a dream in which you
know you're the dreamer and you can you
can just watch as everything yeah works
out perfectly and that's that's what
life is when we get into the synergy but
then at the same time you still have
compassion and empathy for those people
who were trying to do that you know that
that they're messing up and it's an
inward struggle that they're going
through and they're just lashing out
it's all they know to do right it
doesn't matter what level you are
anybody can kind of sir come to that I
get the picture on my head when we're
talking about this of Looney Tunes where
Elmer Fudd is hunting Bugs Bunny and
he's got the shotgun pointed at him he's
about to blow his head off
he sticks his finger in the gun because
he's gonna kill him and he shoots it and
it blows him up instead so what the
enemy meant for your harm ends up being
for your good and it's like it's bad
though because it backfires on those
people the people even in it sucks when
his people you love like no don't do it
I remember we had a instance with a
close friend just a couple weeks ago and
we're begging them to stop stop please
don't do don't go
there I know what you're doing you know
what you're doing don't do it and they
just kept doing it kept doing it kept
doing it and the end result is some
things that you can't just fix or just
say I'm sorry right so it's being a
conscious of every moment not letting
those fits of Rage anger take over you
and be conscious of your words because
they do create reality going back to
maintaining it I want to ask you this
just to get a little bit of clarity
because we're talking about once we
reach this level how do we maintain the
level of vibration the job the podcast
the music career whatever it is how do
we maintain it you said to keep doing
the same things and I just want to get
specific there you know you're not
talking about those same mantras that I
will be a great podcaster I will be a
musician
once we manifest that do we keep those
same mantras or that or do we reevaluate
I'll say and say okay I'm gonna reach
more people I'm going to be able to make
income or do we kind of just take the
next level because once we're there do
we have to keep those same mantras that
kind of led us there how does that work
well for me yeah in in the subconscious
mind which is really when we start
talking about affirmations mantras
whatever visualization holding images in
our mind we didn't really dealing on the
human level with the human subconscious
mind and it's very sensitive to
repetition it's very malleable and but
it also has no sense of time so the for
the subconscious mind we want to
convince it that things are already the
way we want them to be so from the
get-go I would not be saying something
like oh I want to have a million dollars
in the bank I would be saying I'm so
happy and grateful now that I have a
million dollars in the bank and that's
the basically the essence of an
affirmation is stated in the present
tense as if the thing you want to come
about has come about with no reference
to how it came about so that we don't
conflict with that now nobody is going
to be happy I mean ten million dollars
sure it sounds like a lot of money if
you've never had more
10,000 but when you get 10 million
dollars you're gonna find out that it's
not as much as you thought life is if
you have a lot more expenses than you
thought you know inflation is
ever-present you have bigger dreams and
desires now so you know to get to the 10
million mark we might use I am so happy
and grateful now that I have 10 million
dollars in the bank or now that I have a
net worth of 10 million dollars when we
get there we continue to do the same
thing but now we say 20 million or a
hundred million so so basically the the
process is the same although the goals
might be the numbers or the targets can
increase and and yes like I do say that
you know keep basically doing the same
thing but I'm presuming that for people
that are on a spiritual path that
they've been following whatever
intuition and guidance they've been
blessed with to lead them and in the
synchronicities to help them make the
right connections and learn what they
need to learn at the right time and so
that's part of it so when I say keep
doing the same things it's not just keep
doing those same exact material things
but it's keep following intuition keep
looking for synchronicities keep
following your inspiration letting
letting it you know you use you
basically and I'm going to open up to a
quote here in the book on intuition
chapter 15 and I quote a hundred and
sixty other authors in my book from a
hundred and sixty separate books I
clicked it up hundreds of quotes but I
whittled it down to these 160 but it was
Ralph Waldo Emerson in self-reliance
first published in 1841
and he said we lie in the lap of immense
intelligence which makes us receivers of
its truth and organs of its activities
right there end quote so right there in
a nutshell a nutshell is inspiration
intuition and inspiration inspiration to
ition part is makes us
receivers of its truth and the
inspiration part that's the intuition is
organs of its activities where we are
actually guided and almost used as an
instrument by spirit and so that's the
main thing
when I say doing keep doing what we're
doing that's the main thing is being in
that process of receiving the proper
information and taking the right actions
at the right time and if we continue to
do that then we will maintain and grow
in our success because if it's divinely
inspired the more successful we are the
more people we reach and so we have the
universe 100% in our court on that the
drive changes to right the drive that
you had I'm telling you like it's you
have to get used to every level and say
okay what you know what are the
obstacles like my drive to create is
different now that I'm actually in it
doing it and I have to adjust to it I
wasn't expecting this I thought the
hunger was always gonna be there to get
from behind that you know delivery truck
that felt like a cage eventually so what
I created from from that space I
essentially wrote the majority of my
music and ideas and all that kind of
stuff over the years working at those
jobs right learning you're talking about
using what we have at that time you know
if you if you're commuting to the job
even on the community I would pull out
the phone and push the voice to speech
and I would write blogs while I'm
driving I was essentially just you know
speak it out it would turn it into text
I get at home and edit it so while I was
there I had that drive to do something
create something that would take me out
of that place I wanted to be in now that
you're there it changes a little bit now
that that's that that weird desperation
isn't there anymore because I'm here so
we have to kind of get used to it how
does it feel how do I keep continue to
to create with you know to actually
maintain it I'm in a sense I have to
maintain it now and I want it to be you
know I want it all to be genuine and all
that kind of stuff so there's different
levels whenever we get
there but how do we I mean how do we
maintain that because like well I'm
sorry not that let's let's go with this
not maintaining it but sometimes we hit
a ceiling right we get to a level where
we're just that this this you know this
certain number of followers of
supporters of fans or reach whatever the
case is we hit a ceiling and we plateau
out and I'm pretty much can assume that
you're just gonna say we just have to
kind of change those mantras or whatever
change those thinking so that we expect
numbers like maybe we we attracted this
so now we have to kind of attract a
bigger number or bigger reach is that
essentially what we need to do because
I'm kind of there I'll kind of feel like
I've kind of hit a plateau with
supporters and reach even though I'm
still growing and every new person every
new listener is awesome you know I'm
saying each one but um what about those
ceilings and plateaus man right well
part of it goes back to divine order in
Devine time and so life is not ever
gonna be just a a steady incline where
every day we have increased our wealth
every single day we've increased our
following every single day we've
increased our output or whatever some
talk on drops sometimes it drops
sometimes it drops saying there's a
learning in that also but the main thing
is to be see if someone has a goal in
mind and then they get to that part that
goal they achieve it and they haven't
really thought much past it then they're
there in the mode of basically
maintaining what they have but they're
not projecting their reality forward
where they're creating more and now but
I'll hasten to say that that might be
okay maybe someone gets to a point where
they got X amount of followers X amount
of
income they got their free time now I
may feel you know what this is a
comfortable spot for me
on making an impact my work will outlive
me I don't really feel the desire to
push up to the next level that's
perfectly okay I'm fine with that
without what I'm not fine with is when
people have a next level involved not in
mind when they do want more when they do
want to improve and grow but they start
to limit themselves in their thinking
where as they're saying well maybe this
is it
maybe this thing has run its course
maybe this is the the level of success
I'll be able to attain it's like you
know getting a job at the you know like
when I was younger you know I one job to
the next well let's say you get a job as
a with the post office and now you're
like oh great steady paycheck good
benefits I can ride this for thirty
years and retire or whatever people
might get to that point in their success
in any realm but it's really if you look
at the dallart the biggest success
stories whether its financial or
whatever they always have something
before they even reach a goal they
already have the next one in mind as the
one that seems so far away gets closer
and closer they start thinking beyond it
yeah and thinking that is the creating
not only are we projecting in our minds
what the future could be like and we
hope it will be like but we are actually
projecting the future from our minds so
it's there when we get there and so but
but then we get back to you know things
just like you know concepts of divine
order and not being too much in a hurry
knowing that maybe things will take
longer to grow from here but it's going
to be in a way that I couldn't have
conceived and my plans wouldn't have
really done or might have had negative
unintended consequences and so it's that
whole you have that whole overriding
theme of divine order that's a
program that runs constantly in the
background like on a computer you've got
programs that run in the background and
that helps smooth the way you know some
people they you know they work for 20
years
and then they get their first you know
break in acting or something and but
then 40 years later now they're reaching
new heights of paychecks but that might
have been after there might have been a
five year slump in there and we you know
there's many examples of this out there
people who have just fallen off and then
come back and come back big but it's all
part of their journey and if you ask any
of them now they'll say well no I
wouldn't trade that five years down I
wouldn't trade the ten years of waiting
tables I wouldn't trade any of them
because it may be Who I am and I like
Who I am
and just having that overriding theme of
divine order and perfection then it
helps us because you know the plateaus
are going to happen and you can't really
force through them a lot of times and if
you do you might end up being sorry that
you did so it's just more about I think
relaxing more into the process and
realizing that it's unfolding and enjoy
the ride what a blessing it is to be a
human being at this time on planet earth
and to have all of these opportunities
and to be able to you were basically in
a science fiction movie right now if you
look at what the reality is of
technology and everything else where
we're in many many ways we are in a
movie I mean this is being projected
just like from a projector onto a screen
from consciousness onto basically
consciousness and this it's fun and even
the scary times and the uncertain times
and the frustrating times where we think
things would go faster you know what a
blessing it is just to even be involved
in this process I love it um we're at
the top of the hour we've we've went in
about an hour talking about the law of
attraction the power of the mind mind
power these type of things all good
stuff we've talked a little bit about
being protected interactions with maybe
angelic beings stuff like that you've
mentioned that you've had some evil
spirit encounters I want to focus a
little bit on some of that stuff some of
that stuff's always interesting and
juicy but I want to go back to something
that you said at the beginning it was
the fact that you started having these
encounters when you were five or six
when you were really younger and I've
noticed that people who have these
encounters when they're a little kid
what whether it's a beings walking in
their bedroom sleep paralysis as a kid
whatever it is it kind of it kind of you
know changes the course of your life
like it makes you interested in those
type of subjects whether it's in the
movies those are the movies you're
interested in you want to watch the
movies about the paranormal or about the
aliens or whatever because there's this
this this interesting the paradigm that
you're in because you know that it
exists or something exists might never
be able to put your your finger on it
what is it about children having these
encounters are we more closer to the
spirit realm to the ethers because we're
a little bit more fresh are they we've
been talking about this too how some
type of these demonic encounters that
kids are having entities coming in their
room pinning them down to the bed it's
almost like just some type of entities
trying to keep them away from
spirituality and frighten them from
getting into the deeper things what is
your take on when children have these
encounters and why is there a lot of
kids having spiritual and paranormal
encounters right you know I think when
we come in as children where we are much
closer to the spirit realm and people
you know children can have spontaneous
memories of past lives and then you know
eight years later they have no memory of
that but there's been cases where you
know the lives that they think they
lived have been tracked down and
documented you know tiny little you know
babies or children can stare into the
corner like a dog would you know it's
seeing something that you're not seeing
and like that and so I think but yes
when you start when you have
types of experiences like I had and like
others have different types of
paranormal experiences it you have a
knowing within you that there's more to
life than you're hearing there's more to
life than people are saying there's more
to know than is in your school books and
it just sets you up for I think for a
lifelong journey of discovery of you
know what what's really important and
what's what's actually real and so you
know I I feel sorry for people who don't
have any identifiable experiences in
their lives and if they have had them
they explain them away and they just
think that everything is the dog does
law of the jungle
everything's material when you I've had
family members you know when you die
that's it it's over you didn't exist
before you won't exist after there's
there's no divine intervention there's
there's nothing but the law of the
jungle and how things unfold in material
life that I mean I remember when I
didn't consciously know that that's not
how it was and it's a scary world
anything can happen you can go out try
out a way to work and just have a
horrendous accident and then you're the
wheelchair the rest of your life it's a
scary world you could get fired and and
think oh well if I got fired you know
they're laying people off if I get fired
just you know the job market is so tight
that I'm probably going to lose my home
and without that this whole aspect that
we're bringing into it it's a scary
world out there and I think we're
blessed as children to first of all come
in already having some kind of
predisposition yeah some kind of you
know that we've gained somewhere at some
time that we have advanced our frequency
where we can have a divine intervention
even as children and where we can see
all of these things that other people
can't see and it's just another step in
our journey really it's it's the it's
the symbol of the Y the Egyptian path
which path are you gonna take because
both of those are true both of those are
real if you get fired from your job you
know you can freak out you can I mean
this people
get fired and they killed themselves I'm
not gonna be able to provide I'm
worthless I there's no way I can find a
job in this industry they kill
themselves literally that's an option
for some people for other people okay I
didn't like this job to begin with I
have a dream job that I want and I'm
gonna use this as a sign to kind of step
in that direction that's what happened
to me both of those realities are true
it just depends on the one that we agree
with that we align ourselves with and
walk in everything is true we've been
talking about like the you know the law
of the universe and it's this
description a Bible that says the
promises of God are yes and amen
and essentially the universe is yes and
amen whatever you want whatever you
believe whatever you speak I'm gonna
give it to you okay I'm depressed I'm
always tired
I'm always lack I can never I can never
get ahead of my bills you start speaking
these things out and you're creating it
the universe is yes and amen okay never
getting ahead of your bills okay
versus changing the way that you're
looking at your situation or whatever
the case is and you're saying I'm gonna
have more than enough I'm gonna be the
lender and not the borrower
I'm tired of borrowing I'm gonna amass
enough money that I could start helping
people get out of debt that I can use my
tools that God has given me for good to
help humanity and you start seeing that
stuff happen so both of those realities
are real it just depends on which one
that you align with and it's up to us
every waking moment every every second
every hour of what we do so but coming
back to the encounters part right I did
a podcast some some months ago and I
just called is a solo podcast I said how
many encounters does it take whether we
look in the I always go back to the
Bible but looking at the Bible like how
many encounters with this Divine Being
or an angel do you need some people
haven't had any what you just you just
said I've had a ton
I'm almost spoiled I want more but then
part of me is like okay I'm good I don't
need any more how many does it take to
to heed the advice
to see what the warning is are the
encounters just for the hell of it or do
they mean stuff when those divine
interventions happen that angel steps
into your life is it you know what you
know I'm saying what does it burst
within you how does it change your
reality how many does it take I've had
so many almost so that if I was a
skeptic looking at some of my stories
and stuff and like hey you had an alien
encounter you had a fairy encounter
you've seen demons you did this you did
that and I haven't had any like where
the you know what I'm saying so we start
but it's because we're expecting them
eventually we start having more I don't
think I was when I was younger but now
that I know that those realms are there
and we can interact with them I do and
I've seen things I don't know how to
formulate this into a question but like
how many does it take how many
experiences does it take and how many do
we need to do it should we expect more I
don't want to be spoiled you know what
I'm saying like I don't want to say okay
I haven't had enough I want to see an
angel I want to see in faerie which I do
but I already have I don't know how you
could respond to that but I I think you
know what I'm talking about
well and for the answer of how many it
could be one yeah or it could be it's
never going to be enough because the
person is a skeptic and is there is
there a purpose behind it yes I think
that nothing in a miraculous nature like
that ever happens for for no reason
there's basically a good reason for
everything and then another aspect I'd
like to bring in is that you know the
bees extend and by the way I can really
relate to you because I've got I've been
through so many things that just would
if you person had one experience in
their whole life yeah they'd be thankful
somebody tried to pull a gun and
couldn't do it I mean that but it's
happened to me more than once or seen
one UFO but now I see them every time I
start gives you know what I'm saying
right right and so I know I I have the
problem that I've had so many paranormal
mystical type experiences of such a wide
variety that I think nobody is ever
gonna believe this like if I sat down
and go 300 pages and just put you know a
few pages for each story they would say
that's impossible you did not go through
all of that years but I did but so I you
know people think oh my god the stuff he
says is so out there and I'm like hey
I'm pulling my punches I'm tempering
this I'm trying to water it down I
already know most people you know won't
believe me but I but also another angle
of this is that we look at all of these
experiences as anomalies and we say you
know these are the special experiences
but what if all of this synchronicity
protection divine intervention and being
prospered and taken care of what if
that's the normal yeah what if that's
why some people who are more spiritually
down the road a bit they routinely have
these types of experiences I mean most
people if they saw one dead person in
their whole life could be a big thing I
can call in dead people right now I just
did I thought of a friend of mine he's
standing right here literally the second
I can do this all the time the Kathy is
a medium she talks to get people all the
time what if this synchronicity
protection divine intervention talking
to dead people seeing the demons when
they're around what if that's how it
should be for all of us what if our eyes
are supposed to always be that wide open
and then the anomaly becomes you're
walking around and all you see is
physical reality boy that's weird how
did how did you go through your whole
life without seeing one UFO without
seeing one never let you go you never
looked exactly there the whole time but
you know what not when I started having
those encounters it was more spiritual
because it's like you're so busy you're
so into your
in your manifestation or just whatever
you're caught up on trying to build on
earth all you had to do was take a few
minutes and look up so it was more
spiritual like man I got to be in the
moment right and that's what and that's
what those you know divine encounters
birth in us right is this expectation
for something more that we're not alone
and it's not just like oh that I thought
that was cool
each and every one of them I've had so
many encounters but I don't take any of
them for granted I'm thankful in like
I'll take away something from all of it
you know impart something and you know
so it's it's beautiful but like you said
I do think that that that is supposed to
be the norm I do think that people who
were just kind of stuck in this this
temporal you know matter they just
caught up in the rat race but let me ask
you this what about any of it because we
were missing a bunch of stuff we can go
aliens angels or Foe spirits the Akashic
allsey follow a picks any meditation
advice okay so we just we just got a
question with from a super chat I'm go
ahead and skip the line with this
question thank you for the donation
brother Andrew what a ski good friend of
mine wants to know do you follow any of
Abraham Hicks and do you have any
meditation advice well as far as Abraham
Hicks I've got some books and one of the
abraham hicks books is one of the
hundred and sixty books that i quote in
my book I haven't make it made like a
big study of it I haven't read all the
books I have but I'm you know familiar
with the the material on his surface
level and regarding meditation I mean
like I've tried meditation at different
times in my life with concentration
focus breathing you know various things
but I I kind of I I don't really say
that I'm a meditator or that I ride to
any particular meditative state I'm a
lucid dreamer yeah that you know so
that's kind of like it's almost like my
life is a meditation
state later well I'm awake I absolutely
know without a doubt that I'm dreaming
when I'm asleep I often become lucid in
a dream and know that I'm sleeping when
I'm in a dream I can remember what's
going on over here and my intentions to
carry into the dream of things I want to
do and when I'm here like I have a dream
journal by my bed I'm writing down
dreams practically every single morning
I have great recall so not only am I
remembering the dream state when I'm
here but I'm remembering what's going on
here there and then half the time I'm
becoming aware and I look back at my bed
and I'm out of my body so it's for me
you know maybe my whole life I'm
basically meditating I don't have a
specific practice I'm using it this time
but I have and I can see dead people
everywhere I go if I look and if I think
to look for them so it's just like all
of the worlds have kind of blended in
and my purse my antenna has been
extended to a degree where I can
perceive so much more than the average
person can apparently perceive and also
I have this overriding spiritual
philosophy and knowing that's on top of
all this this state of oneness and
knowing and peace and it's not unbroken
but the broken parts were which is the
the states of peace and knowing and and
a spiritual revelation for most people
would be those are the little anomalies
that pop up a few times in their life
point of consciousness that is connected
to all other consciousness so that's a
long answer to the short question of do
I meditate and I actually don't know
what to say about it because if I do
it's not like nobody else doing I like
that though it's almost just like
jumping right into the dream state which
you've kind of you kind of you have a
time timer set when you're gonna do that
it's every night you know what I'm
saying so I think the meditation is kind
of being there today but you've almost
kind of hacked both realms you've hacked
the waking state and then you've had
the dream state as well and it's kind of
weird you know to look at it because
you've almost like I don't want to say
it's not you're not comfortable
obviously you're very comfortable but
it's almost like I don't want to be
awake I'd rather be dreaming and then
when you kind of weird right well it
definitely takes some getting used to it
takes I mean are we supposed to though
it's almost like hey you're not supposed
to do that like you think I'm because
big but at the same time you're very
comfortable in it some people when they
do this they they can't they can't
balance the energies and they get
overwhelmed and it becomes schizophrenic
it happened to me early on I became
schizophrenic when I was dealing with
demons and things pulling me out of the
dream and sticking like crazy stuff I
had spirits all around me and possessing
me and I got I had to run to church when
I got into her was because I opened up
doors that I could not shut and I was
going schizophrenic and I get those
messages all the time from people who
we're talking about this stuff its
nonchalant we love it it's a way of life
it could be hard was it ever hard for
you did you ever have those encounters
like I've opened up Pandora's Box I've
bit off more than I can chew a lot of
people even if they don't even if they
they're not going schizophrenic or
freaking out they worry that they may
they worried that they may have tapped
into what some people have inbox me and
said it's the forbidden fruit of the
Bible you're not supposed to know the
difference between good and evil and be
able to tap in right well if you think
about it you know most spiritual
experiences if you explain them to a
psychiatrist they can open up their book
and they can find that it's a it's a
mental deviation it's an it's an
identifiable condition you have you
might have to be hospitalized or
medicated because you're hearing voices
but I think that awareness is at the
base of all of this so I think that it's
our natural state and then it's a
heightened state to be when we're
normally having dreams were like oh
there's the monster oh here's the big
truck chasing me down the road and the
heightened state is always
second this is coming out of my
consciousness this is a dream I I have
power over this so that's a heightened
state of being in a dream is being aware
that it's a dream and then in the
material world where we're saying wait
it looks like the economy's bad and my
neighbor hates me and you know my dog
just peed on my shoe and everything's
going to pot but it's and I have no
control over it
I can I can bristle against this I can
kick my dog out the door or I can you
know you know thumb my nose at the
neighbor or whatever but it's a higher
level of understanding to know that wait
a second this is this is proceeding
forth from consciousness and I can
govern consciousness therefore I can
smooth these these things over but I've
had a lot of challenges I mean I had a
running with the well - two big ones
that come to mind one is that I
participated in a and an exorcism in
Sedona Arizona
we lived over there for four months but
years before that I had a run-in with a
demonic force and I actually I don't
know how else to say it but the demon
got ahold of me and I became demon
possessed and it lasted for about a week
but I had been running a telemarketing
room and there was this new girl I'll
just shorten up the story but I
basically she asked me for a ride home
that night and I drove her I drove her
in my little 70 Volkswagen bug down to
her little tiny travel trailer in a
trailer park down right at the border
right and saying you see Joe you could
see Tijuana lights in the in the
distance and I went in she asked me if I
wanted to come in and I went in for a
bit and it's a long story but the gist
of it is that this woman started talking
in a man's voice a very deep man's voice
and then when she would come back and
talk in her voice and I'd say well wait
a second you were just in a man's voice
and you were saying this and that she
had no no recollection of it she thought
I was crazy like what are you talking
about so she was completely
demon-possessed the demon had explained
to me a lot of things including that he
had
had her sent her son away to live with a
relative or something he had complete
control over her but when and so the
fast-forward to shortly thereafter and I
think it was the next day and I'm in my
my trailer I lived in a 8 wide by 40 I
was rich compared to her with her little
travel trailer but I was passing a
mirror and I glanced into the mirror and
I saw the demon looking at me out of my
own eyes in other words that thing was
in me and so being the naive impetuous
reckless youth that I was you know 22
years old maybe I don't know um I said I
looked right in the mirror and I said
well don't hide come on out and play and
just as I did that it was like you and
you'd see in a movie my body stiffened
up my head was going like this and I was
hearing all of these crackling sounds
out of my neck and my eyes I could see
the lights of my eyes looking back at me
it was really really bizarre well that
demon got into me mm-hmm and for the
whole next week it was a battle to get
out there was a lady at work that was
into eckankar she was very spiritual and
I told her what happened and she said
well she'll go home and try to meditate
on she said she came back the next day
she said it came to me and my I was in
the bathtub meditating on this and it
came to me and she said it looked like a
wolf this thing wicious I can't help you
and the amazing thing is i'm not you
know didn't purport to be a christian or
anything but what finally saved me was a
woman that i knew who was a christian
her and her new boyfriend who was a
christian i went over their house and
they prayed over me i didn't know if
that would work but it did work but but
the interesting thing was that while i
was with that girl in the trailer the
whole thing was was the demon was
to convince me to go to the dark side
and in new things about me that she
didn't know the girl was brand new at
work you knew I had done - yes training
and it twisted everything I had learned
from s around to make it okay where I
could go to the dark side so anyway I'll
just fast forward to Sedona Arizona
there was a young woman who was
possessed by a demon the demon had
actually pushed her in front of a bus
the day before and we were able to help
her Kathy and I but it was only because
of what I had gone through I know what
it was like to have a demon in me and I
actually held that demon within me while
Kathy did all of her spiritual work and
the light beings came down into the room
and stuff so you know there's been a lot
of things and physical things too where
I've had to overcome you know people
trying to hurt me and things like that
while traveling so it's it's not like
I've got this wonderful rosy life that's
just you know happy-go-lucky all the
time there are real challenges but I
have the overriding knowing that
everything is working out in divine
order and for the best I have that level
of protection but certainly I also have
my my experiences my challenges you know
traumatic things that come up but it all
somehow goes around in that spiritual
washing machine and comes out perfectly
you know dry and smooth and wrinkle free
that's wild have you seen the picture
and I just showed it on the screen but
of the it's a wedding picture that a
couple took at a wedding and there's a
wolf or a dog head over them in that in
over the shoulder that's showing up as
like some type of demonic apparition
have you ever seen that no I haven't
seen it really interesting I just showed
it on the screen but yeah when you said
that the whole the wolf thing I've heard
a lot of different stories about demons
or the demonic being in the form of dogs
or Wolf's and the Bible talk it use it
just phrases like the the the unclean
beasts or the fowl Birds and stuff these
these
exotic birds are kind of used as far as
demonic spirits are concerned as well so
when it comes to the wolves and thing
like that's really interesting but even
that like you can get you can kind of
look back on it now and be fussy you
don't want to go back there in that
realm and in that spirit and given your
your psyche over to some some type of
influence like that but you can look
back and make peace with the demons
because essentially I would say for me
it ignited a an empathy within you to
help other people and you actually used
it some time later to kind of help other
people who were dealing with demonic
possessions or going through dealing
what forces unknown where if you didn't
have that encounter you may not you know
have cared or even believed in it until
you've had your own encounter right
right
I wouldn't wouldn't it believed it
perhaps if I didn't have direct
experience but I also would not have
been conditioned to be able to do the
work I did to be able to and it was one
of the hardest things I ever did was to
hold that demon within me while Kathy
did all this work and relate about past
lives with that would that entity to the
woman and and different things of that
nature so now what I choose myself to
you know be possessed by a demon tonight
and go through another week of that you
know for the next week never in a
million years but when I trade that week
with that demon that I went through all
those years ago never in a million years
I would not trade it I wouldn't wish it
upon myself or my worst enemy and I hope
to God to never have to go through it
again but I would never trade that
experience because it made me much more
of what I've become it made me much more
it made me stronger spiritually it made
me more able to help other people it
made me less fearful and to know that no
matter how powerful a negative force
seems to be it is no match for the light
because the light is ever-present always
has been always will be it's perfection
and anything else is just appearance
it's just conflict it's just
temporary manifestation of consciousness
gone awry and all and this is the really
what I've come to know and it doesn't
matter if it's disembodied spirits or
human beings or whatever that are trying
to do harm that are trying to be
malicious and I firmly believe this and
I know this through experience they can
get away with only what they are allowed
to get away with by the light there's
never really a battle where the light is
battling the good and there's some kind
of question that can delight actually
overcome this darkness the light can
always overcome to darkness
anything that's discordant that happens
is allowed to happen like I was pulled
off of my motorcycle as it was mangling
up with the pickup truck but with
someone else that may have been allowed
to happen it's not that the the ability
wasn't there for the light or the
protection whatever you want to call it
to do that it's that doing so was not in
divine order and so that gives me great
peace and strength and courage to go
through anything that I need to go
through because I knew I know that first
of all this is all in divine order and
second of all if it wasn't it would not
be allowed to happen because the power
that I know that is the overriding
presence and intelligence that can do
more than me that knows more than me
that sees in both directions forward and
past that knows everyone's heart and
minds thoughts feelings and intentions
that part of me absolutely can make
anything go away smooth out disappear or
be a non-issue and I know that it will
whenever that is in a divine order it
gives you a sense of you know peace but
you also become something that you can
really write a movie a story about some
kind of a miracle person
this is the ability we all have some of
us have you know just helped it along
and grown into it being at such a great
level that like you were talking about
you can't even talk about all of your
encounters with with things because
somebody would maybe well maybe I could
believe that one or that or maybe I
could believe all those stories but I
can't believe one person went through
all of that yeah you know you become one
of those people that if you really just
laid it out there of what your life has
been like nobody's gonna believe it you
have to you have to water everything
down just so that maybe they'll
entertain that it was even possible
that's an exciting kind of a life to
live and it's available to everyone it's
available to everyone yeah if you want
it I remember um you know sue you know
watching all these supernatural things
on on television and in these movies and
stuff like that after having some
encounters and I'm wanting it to be real
but then I'm told that it isn't but then
when you finally understand that this
stuff is real like the joy and
excitement I got from that you know and
it's funny you're talking about being
protective right we've been talking
about that for a while anyway but being
protective and it talks about even
though it's happening around you it's
not going to happen to you just just to
know that you're protected we're talking
about demons angels evil spirits stuff
like that there's and it opens up to so
much more channeling and all that kind
of stuff the akashic mediumship seeing
dead people is there and I know I know
the answer but I just want to hear it
vocalize and share with the audience but
is there anything that's off-limits is
there any there's a place that you don't
go as far as like thinking that people
are making it up because we have to deal
with that too there's people talking
about these spiritual practices even
though we have a bunch and we and all
people can do is just trust what we're
telling them unless we can give them
some type of repeatability which a lot
of this stuff you can but it's not
usually not instant it takes a life lay
down and study almost but is there a
places that you don't go like yeah
because I have some some things that
people say and even with with little
things like past lives I'm not a hundred
percent sold on the past life thing I
believe in a lot of
stuff that's one I've just never it's
never grabs me maybe because I've never
had a past life reading where I've been
able to tap in and live that life or
whatever
I believe in past life suggestions that
people being suggested thoughts that
they take on as their own but for me out
there's some stuff there all of this is
whoo-whoo is there anything that
anywhere you don't go with it well I
think everything is valid and on its own
level but there are also because it's
consciousness created to begin with so
but there's also other there's alternate
explanations for everything like people
will say okay let's talk about past lies
for a minute so first of all if you're a
quantum physicist if you're Albert
Einstein or if you're an advanced mystic
you know that there's no time there is
no time there's the present moment so
therefore that whole concept of past
goes right out the window
now if I believed that this life is a
dream and and by the way I'll preface
this by saying that in my early 20s I
got very into past lives I was involved
with a group that was heavily into past
life therapy I got to the point where I
could see my own past lives at will and
where I could give readings to other
people routinely give past life readings
to other people but I got to the point
early on and you know I'm still in my
20s I guess where I completely abandoned
that we had some friends over to the
house Cathy and I where we were living
and they were talking about the three of
them were talking about a couple about
past lives and all of that and all of a
sudden I was coming back into the room I
guess I was standing about 15 feet away
from them ten feet and all of a sudden
this this image was superimposed onto
the image that I was actually seeing and
I saw this you know how when you growing
flowers or new grass and you'll put the
little pulse with the little strings
across so people won't step down it and
so I saw one of those around them and
they were in a garden that had all of
these weeds and the weeds were the past
lives and I realized I had been at it
for years you know pulling out all these
past life
karma and healing trauma and all and I
realize oh my god I'm over here and I'm
in a garden it doesn't have any weeds
and they're over here stuck in this
garden it has weeds and from that point
on I never looked at another past life I
never gave another past life reading but
here's a thing let's look at it this way
last night I had a dream and I and today
I can look back and say well that was
just a dream
Here I am in my physical life right here
I can knock on this this wood here on
the table and I appear to have a
physical life I'm talking to you on the
internet but as a as a mystic and as a
spiritually aware person I know that
this is just a dream okay it's not real
so if this life is not is not real if
this is just a dream if this is just an
illusion how much more so is a past life
if this life is a dream like all the
Mystics they'll tell you that it is how
much more so a past life so everything
is true but then again nothing is true
you know you have children who who give
and I said there's other there's always
alternate explanations for things so
let's say that the child is very young
and they're having and I've seen stories
like this and they're having they
remember when they were this other
person that died 10 you know a certain
time before they were born in an
adjacent town and then they tracked this
person down and everything they said was
true
so that would that would seem to be in
Contra beautiful in contributing truth
of a reincarnation but just what if
everything is all consciousness if
through our subconscious minds we have
access to all other minds and all other
memories which we do because it's one
field of consciousness that child could
just be tapping into a personality that
lived that other life yeah no that's
just and so there's always other
explanations but so everything is true
but then again nothing's true well one
thing that I do kind of steer away from
is I never intentionally seek out
demonic forces or spirits I had one
that possessed me followed dogged me for
years afterwards it was more like a net
around your head or a fly more of a
nuisance but every any time I thought of
it or talked about it would come in
until Cathy finally you know released it
we talked about channeling there's
another thing I say somewhere I don't
know is that the exact words but in a
state of oneness
there is no channeling there is only
expression and so whereby when I was in
my younger days I used to channel
quote/unquote past life readings and all
of that now like some of my books I
wrote my newer books I've written in
just a few writing sessions
I just basically opened my consciousness
but it's never where on my own I'm back
now what happened well let me listen to
what I said on the recorder because I
don't know no I'm 100% involved in the
process it's not words coming through
its concepts thoughts feelings and
images which then I use the vocabulary
available to me to to put down on paper
and to try to keep up with with the
thoughts but I like to tell people
because some people and I run into them
all the time they're so impressed by
channeling can literally tell them
anything yeah they tell them to jump off
a bridge and they'll do it and I like to
tell people no matter where the
channeled proclamations are purporting
to be coming from always remember
they're coming out of the mouths of a
human being and I'm like strong about
that I want to pound my fist on the
table because I'm tired of seeing people
get so impressed and maybe there's great
channels out there and everything
they're teaching is good and but look at
all these cults where the the person is
supposed to be God and every word out of
their mouths is a proclamation of divine
truth that you can't you can't argue
that I think that we should we all our
channels we're all channeling
consciousness and it's what what do we
want to bring through and what do we
want to call it but I think at higher
levels at least for me personally
of spiritual connection and awareness I
don't want to give up my connection with
my physical brain and step aside for
something to come out yeah through me
now some people do that there's some
very famous and well-known and respected
people and the information that they are
putting forth is is stupendous
life-changing and I don't take any bit
that away but I like to let people know
there is an option you can number one
not just go hook line and sinker with
everything that you're your chosen
channel says just because it's being
channeled number one question everything
and number two if I was going to advise
you one way or another I would not
advise you to go in the direction of
trying to give up your physical
conscious mind to let something else
step in and speak to you that's personal
preference some people out there might
take offense especially because this is
what they do this is the whole basis of
their fame but for me it's not any many
paths and we learn on all of them but
for me it's not a path that that I'm
interested in yeah well you're not
saying for sure that this is what that
is you're just kind of giving so like
you said for all of this stuff there's
different ways of looking at it there's
what it could be not saying that it's
not real but it may be something else
you interpreted this type of way maybe
instead of channeling something from
without you maybe for maybe instead of
channeling something from without you're
really channeling something within or
just not even channeling but getting the
information from some some deep down
place that you already know through life
experience that you don't have a the
only way you can get that out is if you
have a way to channel it out and the
channel actually did it did like a
little documentary thing on this called
persona where I go into the root words
for the ventriloquist and familiar
spirits and so the little geeky nerdy
kid who shy he would never hit on a girl
in school he would never even
he would want to he dreams about it he
would never do it he all of all of a
sudden gets the the Gaul to do it
through the puppet the ventriloquist
that he so that puppet can say things
that that little boy would never say
because now there's a scapegoat it
wasn't me it was Chucky
you know the doll or whatever Chucky did
it even and so there's a whole bunch of
that snapchat filters I went into but so
I really feel like a lot of people even
in their own mind even if they believe
it they can go to this realm when they
meditate or whatever and be able to go
within and say things that they would
never say if they have the scapegoat
Christians do it all the time God hates
God is this God hates this God
hates that no you hate that you hate gay
people God doesn't hate gay people you
do so now you because other people can
read that same text and get something
totally different whether it's the
spirits or the mediums or whatever the
case is we have something to put the
blame on oh I don't feel that way I love
gay people God hates them and you have
to be the messenger of this God or
whatever the case is I did a documentary
on it and so this it's really
interesting to see because you know and
I kind of just encourage people to kind
of go within and be able to be their
authentic true self without the mask I
use many scenes from the movie the mask
clips when I put the mask on something
comes out of me I'm able to be someone
else you know and all of these sayings
people in a costume and stuff like that
so I really feel like there's a there's
a a scapegoat there when it comes to
that and we can access all that
information it's really weird because it
really does feel like it sometimes that
it comes from another realm or whether
within or without I do a character I do
it's a a Southern Baptist voice that I
do and we've done prank calls with it
and I've joked around made YouTube
videos without showing my face and
people think it's another person it
sounds like an old Southern Baptist
preacher
when I'm doing that character I'm able
to be off I'm able to tell people things
about themselves that Derrick would
never say I wouldn't tell you that even
though I feel this way about you you
need to change your life in this way
there's some reservations there there's
saving face there's trying to protect
the relationships but as I go into that
character I would I it I cast off all
restraint because we get to laugh and
say oh I'm just joking but really if we
look at the information that came forth
it's true it's authentic and sometimes
it's kind of weird because it's kind of
prophetic as well even though I'm joking
but in that state of Kok I'm it doesn't
matter what I say let me tap in it is a
really weird place that we're able to go
in our minds and I'm sure you've
experienced stuff like that as well
was going into the channeling and in
past lives and things like that am i I'm
essentially channeling the spirit of an
old Southern Baptist and I gave him a
name brother Wayne was here he could
have been a real person you know this is
a theory I don't know that he's not but
I can easily say that he is and say okay
I'm gonna channel brother Wayne and see
what he'll say to you let's go in y'all
ready and I can go in get in character
which is what all these people do I did
a whole documentary on it it's it's very
interesting though right right and you
alluded to this right right when you
started in talking about this this last
segment there is that whether something
is coming from without or within and
when we when we take the the overall
philosophy of modern physics and the the
when you look at it even though we
appear to be separate and looking out
from our little you know special vantage
point when you look at it like that
there really is nothing coming from out
there at all everything is coming from
inside there there is no out there
there's only inside and then what is
project it out and we project out unto
other you know people and we see other
planets out there and people say is you
know they
they say well you think there's life on
Mars and I like to say well what makes
you think that you know Mars even exists
that's a really big leap right there and
really Mars does not exist
I mean quantum physics basically teaches
that until something is observed it's
not what it is then observed to be they
call it the collapsing of the waveforms
that there's a field of potentiality but
until a conscious observer looks at it
there's really nothing there a definable
or identifiable and so everything comes
and that's it goes back to what I was
saying earlier about everything is true
but yet again nothing is true and that
those two statements are not in
opposition to each other and when people
really get down the road aways they're
gonna say right and but you can you can
you know poke holes in just about
anything some people might channel some
being that lived X amount of thousands
of years ago let's say well wait a
second
there's no time we know this if we're
spiritually inclined or a for a quantum
physicists we know there's no time so
how how is this person this this amount
of years old so everything is true
everything has its place water seeks its
own level everybody learns and teaches
from the platform that they've been able
to attain but I think the further and
further along up the ladder we get the
more we start seeing that this is all
just subjective and everything we're
saying even today everything we've
talked about it's like it's just part of
the play and when when the reel stops
and the music stops and the lights come
on none of that is even going to be
anything we even have to consider so
it's it's almost like people think well
you know if I follow that philosophy
then eventually I'll have there'll be
nothing and I like to tell them no
eventually
everything that isn't will be out of the
way and then you will finally know what
is yeah um and that's really the
foundation of it the people are on a
spiritual journey people think I'm I
want to be spiritual I want to be
spiritually liberated what they don't
understand is that they can never
accomplish that as a human being because
spiritual illumination by definition
necessitates the complete and utter
destruction of the human being who would
have attained that illumination because
in illumination there is no singularity
there is no separation so we're actually
on a journey to destroy ourselves but
it's a journey to do even though we
don't haven't defined it and don't know
it but the journey we're on this
spiritual journey leads to our
destruction
utter destruction as an individual we
will not be individual we will become
Universal and when we do when we finally
reach that point we will I know it
sounds bizarre but we will realize that
all of this stuff that led up to it
never even happened never even happened
this isn't happening we're not having
this conversation it gets very very
bizarre and so we always have to reel it
back in but the further the further you
go and the more you you can intuitively
tap in the truth the more bizarre it
gets and the fewer people are going to
be able to really follow it maybe many
can follow it conceptually but to when
you start to in Sep this viscerally this
just just blows everything out of the
water people say well you can explain
away everything with that kind of
philosophy
yes exactly you can explain away
everything and that is the goal now
you're talking about just reality itself
or time because time has a way of just
kind of erasing everything in in you you
may see some fingerprints here and there
but a hundred years from now this
conversation I mean it happened it was
just recorded unless it gets erased you
and people who experienced it and their
kids and you're gonna live on through
thoughts in through you know emotions
and memories but we don't exist in a
hundred years right so you talk about
time erasing everything cuz I mean
supposedly you know reality it's gonna
whatever this is you know could keep
going but we don't exist at least in
this form is that kind of what you're
alluding to because time is scary I've
been thinking about that last couple
weeks and kind of freaking myself out
about deaths and about we're talk about
creating these beautiful lives for
ourselves being able to do what we love
for a living now that I'm doing that I
don't want it to change I don't want it
to stop be creating beautiful
experiences with people even just in
this realm like the you know I'm saying
this the the going swimming picking
flowers eating chocolates laughing
making friends laugh have a couple
drinks little little things like that
we're in this place experiencing this
reality is going to come to an end it's
kind of scary it's kind of overwhelming
is that kind of what you're alluding to
because is it the fear of soon enough it
doesn't matter because it's gonna be
erase time feel like it's speeding up
maybe with age or whatever but days or
seem like they're going back by faster I
know there's no such thing as time but
it's our perception of time whether it's
just in the eye of the beholder or if it
really is something going on well we
just feel like you know damn weird you
know the time is slipping away what do
you mean by that
well time time is basically subjective
time is relevant for instance it always
seems like it takes longer to get to
where you're going than the trip really
faster yeah and time seems to go really
slow for young people they can't wait to
grow up and then when you start getting
over a certain point now you can't slow
it down every time you turn around it's
another 10 years literally yeah but I I
don't think I don't think of time as
erasing anything first of all it's a non
thing so
there is no time so it can't do anything
but there's actually nothing to erase so
like we could say well this recording is
I mean this interview this conversation
is recorded on thinnest preserves area
reserved where if we take quantum
physics and mysticism at face value and
to the deepest levels of what of what
they might actually imply there not only
was there not a conversation there is no
recording there are no computers there
is no internet it's like if I went if I
had a dream last night that I that I
talked to to you know I don't know just
Madonna you know by telephone and I wake
up and I think well you know that was a
dream so I know that it's hard to you
see I in my in my perception from is
what I've you know ascertained is that
everything that as human beings we can
identify and point to is not it's not
it's not there what what exists is
experience we're having the experience
of having a conversation there if other
people can experience that they have a
computer and they can go to youtube and
they can watch this but it's all
subjective it's all projected out and
consciousness has an interplay it's
always interplaying with itself and
that's why other parts of ourselves who
think they're separate from us can watch
this this conversation but and that's
why you know there's a lot of spiritual
teachings or teachers they they really
make things simple and they they kind of
explain things and and so people can get
into a comfortable thing and they can
say okay well finally I realized I was
bad in a past life and I got shot and
that's why I had this birthmark on my
you know or even psychology you know my
father was didn't give me love and
that's why I'm like this or you know my
somebody left me and so we can explain
so we're looking for explanations but
it's for me personally but further down
the spiritual rabbit hole that I've gone
the more it's like I'm not I'm not
gaining anything I'm not learning
anything
I'm just keep getting rid of stuff like
everything that comes on my radar it's
like well I'm not getting stuck there
I'm not getting stuck in past lives I'm
not getting stuck in time I'm not
getting stuck in materiality that
there's actually a physical world I'm
not getting stuck in that it does you
know that there's actually you know
light wears away there's other planets
and all of this anything that is once we
hang our head on it then that becomes
our prison and that becomes the limits
to which we can attain intellectually
and spiritually at that moment because
there's always something beyond but at
and in the final analysis I believe that
absolutely everything is subjective that
everything is projected and that
therefore everything is infected with a
bug in the works as if this was a
computer program it's got a ride there's
a virus in it and it man it looks like
little pac-man things going around the
screen eating stuff or whatever it looks
like it looks like world wars
it looks like radiation fallout
it looks like chemtrails it looks like
environmental destruction but there's
nothing there we can hang our hats on
any of that people say well you know the
half-life of of something that's that's
radioactive is this that in the other
and and we've lost all these trees and
now we can't you know replay
believe me everything is in question
even the geological record
and if people would tune in to the the
level of spiritual understanding that
I'm that I'm a proponent of we could
collectively wake up tomorrow morning
and be completely referring we could
have all the plastic out of the ocean
it's just energy it's just consciousness
it seems real and we all get together
and agree on it we'll look at all this
plastic in the ocean it's not even there
we can have whatever experience we want
if we get enough people together and it
doesn't have to be a lot like 1% of
people who come into this kind of
consciousness where we realize that we
can actually just think something into
existence that's good and we can think
something out of existence that's bad
that's the great power that we all have
and so people tell me you know over the
years I've been at this for a long time
now and you know people come back you
know years later and they say man when I
first was listening to you I thought you
were a complete nutcase
I just couldn't process what you were
saying but now here's what I've learned
here's what I know here's what I've been
able to ascertain for myself this and so
I had to make a decision like for
certain audiences I will I will really
try to
real things in but when I'm talking with
someone like you that is just totally
like you've had the same type of
experiences you're on an intellectual
level where you're not emotionally
invested in your worldview and trying to
prove that or you know when I when I get
into a venue like this I just completely
let it fly and you know let the chips
fall where they may but in the end this
is all just a game we're playing it's
all just concepts in the mind of
consciousness projecting out upon itself
and to think that it's anything more
that becomes the trap to think that we
found ultimate truth that becomes a cage
to us and that would that will limit us
and it will hold us back then I think it
takes us back to the beginning of the
interview why not enjoy it like this
life it fits this bill if this is the
only one you get or if you get more it
doesn't matter
why not enjoy it why not do what you
love versus working there 50 60 hours a
week doing what you hate you got to work
you got to survive you got to do
something why not do what you love so
right look at that those kind of ideas
as well that's why I love this the
spiritual talk because it kind of
creates a paradigm where we can do that
through spirituality but if if this
realm doesn't exist right or just
nothing exists or nothing matters as
you're saying what about the afterlife I
mean there's this weird notion that
we're being tested whether we're we
selected this test oh we are being
tested to see where we're gonna go which
house we're gonna live in whatever's
going on on the other side if that even
exists do you believe in like you know
even the Christian idea of a heaven in
hell you like the decisions and things
that you do on this life that determines
where you spend eternity most of the
other sacred texts have something
similar annihilationism you're not gonna
exist anymore if you choose the low road
those type of ideas do you think and
even at the beginning I kind of
mentioned the Avatar state of you know
the Bible says we're seated in heavenly
places with Christ Jesus and it's almost
like even the Greeks believe something
very similar where we're really these
gods or these planets or whatever
experiencing life and then these are
just the little avatars of expression
and then that we're controlled under the
planets and stuff like that do you
believe in an afterlife do you believe
that we are higher self is somewhere out
there and that's reality and this is the
the dream realm it's something like that
going on well what I believe is that the
afterlife is an experience like I talked
to dead people I know people that I knew
when they were alive now they're dead
and now I can see that I could basically
call him into the house at will for
years I used to do little comedy skits
around the house where I would act and
talk and walk like someone we knew and
then one day I saw that person standing
next to me and I realize oh my God he's
been with me every time I've I've acted
him every time I've you know done a
little skit
as him that was him and I realized other
people had been doing it so yes there's
an afterlife and it's no more real or no
less real than this life the same as
aliens the same as you know journals
just yeah all of it all of it it's all
real and it may as well be real and we
have to treat it as it's real as if it's
real a lot of times but so what's real
and what's happening is consciousness
now if the if the deepest thinkers and
the most advanced scientists are telling
us that that there's only one field of
consciousness that all separation is in
fact an illusion that even accounts of
heaven where you have angels and
individuals who have died and been good
and gone to heaven or you have people
who go to hell well they're still
they're still in in a perception and a
reference point of being an individual
therefore they are in illusion so all of
that is real people have you know the
path to near-death experience people
come back routinely and give the same
types of accounts of going through the
tunnel and the light and the
overwhelming feeling of love and
everything and so there's certainly
something going on but is it anything
other than is going on right here in
this world and I say no and I and I
think one distinction I like to make for
people is that you know we say heaven is
good and hell is bad or poverty is bad
and wealth is good and I like to say
that there really is no good or bad or
right or wrong what we have here to be
concerned with as individual human
beings apparent human beings is not
right or wrong good or bad but as
desirable or undesirable to us and I
think if we take that as our moral
compass
what's desirable a reference point some
of us are not as trapped in it as others
but let's make the most of it and you
said maybe it's just
you know enjoy the ride yes enjoy the
ride
do good and make the illusion better and
better and better and when we make the
illusion good enough it will cease to be
and then we can behold reality
everything up until then is just we're
still inside struggling inside the paper
bag and we can make it look real pretty
in there we can paint it we can bring a
nice lights and comfortable cloths to
lay on we're still inside the paper Bank
but we've got to improve that paper bag
to a very great extent until it can fall
away and we realize it was never there
to begin with definitely it paints a
beautiful picture and just trying to
understand how it works
got a bunch of other questions I want to
ask you so much more that we can go into
and I've really enjoyed this time that I
spent with you let everybody know where
they can check out your work check out
your books and all that kind of stuff
that you bring it to the table as well
certainly well the easiest thing is just
to go to my website that's my name James
GOI J our dot-com that's James Boyd jr.
calm and when you're there there's all
the social buttons to connect with me on
Facebook and Twitter and whatnot but
also while you're on the website I
encourage people to subscribe to my free
monthly mind power and money easing and
when they do they'll get a free copy of
my book attract money forever and I've
written 10 books thus far two of them
are books of my song lyrics and they're
all available on website on amazon.com
and Kindle and paperback editions but
the best place to start is just go to
James GOI jr. com so you have music - I
do and I haven't actually gotten any of
my music recorded I'm not very techy and
would like to figure out how to do that
but I do have two volumes of my song
lyrics with fifty lyrics in each of
those volumes so I haven't done I
haven't done any new writing for quite a
while but it's
something that I would like to do more
of and that I'd actually like because I
have music for all of the words not
written down music but you know audio
you know I've got the melodies and the
chord progressions and all of that so
that's the another step is to get that
into some kind of audible form because
in the lyrics books you can only read
the words but you can hear the music
yeah that'd be awesome I love to check
it out well James I really enjoyed this
episode man thank you for coming on
hanging out with me and we have to do it
again definitely because I know there's
so much more we can talk about thank you
so much for coming on yeah thank you for
having me and I'm up for it any time
it's really great to talk to you and to
share this kind of information with
people definitely will do it again
brother thank you so much okay thank you
hi James bye bye bye James go ladies and
gentlemen James Khoi jr. good stuff
really enjoyed this episode and so uh
it's good we're 200 episodes in and
still creating good content you know
sometimes it's hard to get through an
episode sometimes you know I can even
look at the numbers about you know how
long people are staying on and hanging
out for the conversation we're doing
almost a three well two-hour episode
like how long can you invest in a live
stream not at your leisure let me go
back and listening to on the podcast
apps but I'm looking at the numbers in
the live stream and so people are
hanging out for the entirety of the show
and it lets you know that something is
coming across that you're resonating
with something very strange very strange
for me because like I resonated with a
lot of stuff that James was talking
about and almost he seemed like a older
version of myself it seemed like I was
talking to myself in the future I mean
just just look at it for those of you
looking on the on the video just imagine
my hair being white and my beard being a
wife like that's me y'all he was like
you know this stuff kind of happened in
in his in his late 40s 48 he said where
he started to kind of get into a lot
more of this stuff and be able to
manifest it I'm a lot younger
in this house stuff kind of works just
for being open and honest then the
people who are younger than me can start
having these encounters as well people
can start living the life that they want
for themselves or whatever it is
spirituality have your cryptic
experience as mystical experiences
angels aliens God whatever the case is
like you can experience that stuff and
so it's very interesting and I'm coming
just it ain't got nothing to do with the
Bible it ain't got nothing to do with
the Koran it ain't got nothing to do
with the Bhagavad Gita
abraham-hicks the raw material they have
nothing to do with that but in the end
spiritual people on the path of
spirituality it seems that we're coming
to the same conclusions at the end we're
all coming to if you got seen at the
very beginning I asked him does he have
a Christian background because I'm
thinking I got bible scriptures for all
of this stuff man I really do and I had
to I have to kind of like catch myself
sometimes from just going straight Bible
on them right because it all comes back
to the scriptures for me and I was like
do you do you have a background in
Christianity did you are you a Christian
like because everything that you're
talking about it's its conclusions that
I've come come to through reading the
Bible and it's not just the Bible right
I'm somebody it's not a I don't think
even think it's about the Bible it's
about experiencing the word in the life
of that word right which everyone can
experience everyone because we're coming
to the similar conclusions and I've
taken a Christian path or just a
biblical path and approach but there's
other people who read the Bible and they
have all they come to a totally
different conclusion there's people who
read the bhagavad-gita there's people
who are into spirituality they've come
to different conclusions at the end of
their life at the end of the road and
it's all about different things so it's
really weird to see that at the end of
the day do all roads point to God do all
paths lead you to God I haven't been on
all paths so I can't say I don't think
any of us can and that's what he's
talking about being definite about what
what your belief system is and being
absolute on those belief systems as well
we can't say but I can't say that this
path that I'm on
and it's not strictly the Christian path
it's not the spiritual path it's not the
Wiccan path the new-age it's not just
those it's not exclusive to any of it
because but you can get involved in any
of it and end up in a worse place than
you were before or in a better place it
doesn't matter that all this of its
tools and vehicles to kind of get there
but at the end of the day spirituality
talking about frequency and vibration at
the end of the day raising your
vibration spiritual I'm telling you in
the church like it's all about Jesus
brother you you you doing Jesus and
spirituality you're doing Jesus and
meditation Jesus and mushrooms whatever
people want to throw at me or whatever
and it's got to be an something right
because if it's so many people who
so-called have Jesus in the churches
they're miserable the divorce rates are
out there out there ceiling you know
there are racist bigoted people and they
have Jesus no no it's not just Jesus
there's always just Jesus and two we get
into other topics or get into other
doctrines Jesus and tithing Jesus and
meditation Jesus and whatever the case
is so at the end of the day it's about
fruit and that's why I always go back to
this and there's a Jesus thing don't
judge anything before it's upon a time
but judge every one according to the
fruit that they produce Christian Muslim
atheist whoever
what kind of fruit are you producing in
your life and it seems to be that the
spiritual ones though they be scattered
throughout the four corners of the earth
though they be scattered throughout the
madness of religion there is something
that ties us together and it's something
that's within the hearts and minds of
every individual if we tap into it and
that's a spirit of love walking in love
empathy towards all mankind we all have
the ability to do that and let's access
that let's tap into that let's tap into
those those records right the records of
love which keeps no records of
it gets deep man I love you guys thank
you guys for hanging out with my really
enjoyed this podcast I want to give a
special thank you to a good friend of
mine
Danny Guerrero so I've been asking
people to make snippets of the podcast
little sections and there's a good two
two-hour interview where you can you
don't understand us we talked on so much
stuff so there's so many sections and
segments and that the keys are there if
you'd like to help make segments out of
the podcast and kind of help me promote
a little bit I need help with that
there's a link in the description it's
called streamable you can actually put
the link in there create the kind of
snippet with streamable and and send me
the link or whatever the case is so that
would help me a lot I put that out there
into the universe
Danny Guerrero has been sending me some
really good snippets so if you guys have
seen some podcast interviews that I've
uploaded little snippets they've been
done by Danny so Danny's helping me do
that stuff so shout out to Danny
Guerrero good friend of mine shout out
to everybody hanging out with me again
in the chat who's been here since the
beginning everybody who's supporting the
work through patreon thank you again
from the bottom of my heart everybody
who's giving everybody who believes in
this work the music again new music is
is available on patreon there's a new
song that's going to be on the next
project
it's already uploaded I'm about to
upload another one that I've sent to
beast 13:33 who's most likely gonna get
on it
if he doesn't it's a great idea it's
songs gonna be there but I'm gonna send
my part just to kind of let you guys
hear it and see what you think and I
love to share in that writing process
with you guys and show you guys what
happens on the back end so again thank
you guys so much and I'm gonna go ahead
and jump off of here and we'll do it
again very soon Shalom Shalom peace guys
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