Spiritual Warfare | Our Own Inner And Outer Demons | Pastor Bryan Jones

Spiritual Warfare | Our Own Inner And Outer Demons | Pastor Bryan Jones
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bring in my guest now I want to kind of
preface this by saying this is uh my
pastor I guess I don't want to say he
was my pastor I did sit under Pastor
Brian for some years so a lot of the
stuff that's wrong with me you guys can
blame him you know I want to bring him
on I want to preface this right just to
kind of give you guys a little bit of
background some years ago was was out of
church still a Christian still like
meeting online with people and stuff
like that but was looking for a home
Church because I had a friend of mine
who came to know Christ and we took him
to the river and baptized them but I
wanted him to have the full Christian
experience and not just take my word for
it or whatever the case is I wanted him
to have the experience that I had and
grow with the body receive prayer those
type of things right just a normal
Christian experience so we started
hitting up all of these churches in the
area man we were going with checking out
like every denomination we would study
how our own Bible studies and our own
prayer meeting but just wanted to go
deeper so we went to a bunch of
different Baptist churches and I think
it was like a Church of Christ and I was
experiencing stuff I've never seen
before in some of these churches and all
different and then somebody invited us
to a concert one night and they said
it's gonna be at a biker Church called
the cave ministry it's a new ministry in
in town and they were doing a rock
concert there you guys should come you
would love it so my family went and I
brought the brother who just came into
faith with Christ and we went there and
we fell in love with the people who were
genuine
and full of people with that look like
me
tattoos from head to toe earrings lip
rings you know saying we're all black
you know saying look just like me saw
fit in really good and this was the cave
ministries and so went to that concert
there and started you know going to
church there they started doing church
church services on Sundays and
Wednesdays and started doing that and it
just kind of blew up so the pastor there
who is my guest today Pastor Brian means
a lot to me I started doing gospel
wrapping and traveling to do a lot of
churches and then we I'd also go to
nightclubs and go to the bars and stuff
and here was this white Christian rapper
going to a bar downtown and my pastor
would come with his biker gang it was
like they had a Christian biker club and
they would just come in droves and
they'd pull up it was true seeker so
there being a full crew of people out
man so that you know I'm saying that
some of the early days of my ministry
getting started with Pastor Brian and he
would just support me and he also too we
talked about the prophetic a lot on here
and and moving in the spirit and being
able to hear the voice of the Holy
Spirit moving and working in our life
and Pastor Brian created a platform at
the cave ministries where he trusted me
to come up there and to teach and if I
felt the Holy Spirit was telling me
something about deliverance or about
speaking in the into someone's life
Pastor Brian trusted me enough to
actually come up on the stage and and
actually deliver that word so everything
that I'm talking about its birth a lot
of it comes out of the cave ministry so
with that being said Pastor Brian I love
you man welcome to the show I love you
man great to be here brother well you've
come a long ways man since back in the
day amen
oh man yeah it's good to be here man
truth love what you're doing and I love
your being real you're very authentic
amen you know you don't put it on the
front and I've always liked that about
you you are who you are amen and that's
good stuff yeah you know I guess you a
little background maybe yeah
yeah yeah let's start cause I'm talking
about the cave ministry and this this
you know a whole like biker Church and I
think a great place to start with with
people just kind of you know years ago
just let me quick background you know I
was you know I was a drug addict for
years and years and I was shooting dope
and kind of living on the streets here
and there behind the dumpster et cetera
et cetera and then I had an I had an
encounter you know the darkness met the
light and I had to meet calendar with
the holy spirit with God and it
radically changed my life amen and so I
guess in 2009 the Lord woke me up you
know I've been saved for a long time
I've been you know clean for a long long
time and I was basically working out of
town I had a job I'm working offshore I
was actually working on the oil rigs in
Shore but anyway the Lord won't be out
one morning and he said I want to go get
a building and um you know I just heard
the whisper you know it's important to
follow the whisper amen so heard the
whisper God side won't my wife up I said
we gotta go get a builder and she said
what for us I don't really have a clear
so anyway we got out we went we got a
building one thing led to another you
know two years later Lord had me to quit
my job quit everything you just go
full-time into this and since then it's
just kind of blow up you know we
minister to and we cater to those that
have been hurt by the church those that
don't feel accepted by the church the
alcohol the drug addict the prostitute
the stripper the felon you name it where
they can just come in and just you know
feel the presence of God because we
believe that they could have an
encounter it'll change everything and
that's that's what it's all of it we
more than then encounter the Holy Spirit
not not the pastor yeah one of the
encountering him and that changes
everything so like you said it just kind
of it just kind of blew up since 2009
but we've had to move three different
times you know into a bigger facility so
it's just the blessing of God loving
people that's what they're all about you
know it's the first Corinthians 13 in
action you know that's what I like to
say that we are you know we just what
love is the law the cave ministry or
love is the law and so that's basically
what we do man that's what we you know I
want to just love people I loved you
right amen
man yeah I'm
there's a lot of different places we can
go right off the back but I do love and
I appreciate that it's still your
message that it's not so much about
doctrine or being right or having all my
beliefs in order which I think we've
probably been there at some point I
definitely have but it's about encounter
that yes the same presence of God that
came in and changed my life when I was
at my lowest this this loving force of
God that came in and loved me when I was
unlovable like other people can
experience that almost like because you
come from the drug drug drug background
I do too you know when you had drugs you
wanted to share hey I got some dope I
would you know you know I'm saying
you're high with me so essentially like
that kind of bleeds over to say look
I've experienced something I love and a
piece in a euphoria there's a drug type
of you for your hair that booms and that
comes with it's just not a theory that
you believe but there's an encounter
with the Living God and so when you set
up a safe place for that for people to
encounter God for themselves man it's
it's so beautiful and you started out
with that and like probably I mean
everybody loved worship at the cave
everybody loved the teaching but I think
the altar calls as people are itching to
go down to the altar because they're
dealing with some stuff that they can't
talk about they can't tell you that hey
I'm a prostitute I've been living on the
streets you know what I'm saying well
but you you come to the cave ministries
and there's a comfort there that I can
be myself and I don't have to pretend to
be someone else so with the UM standard
ministry being birthed like that and
even reaching out to the homeless I
remember times they were like really big
I don't know if you want to call them
mega churches but they were bigger
churches down the street and homeless
people would go to their church and they
would have somebody walk them out of
service and drive them to the cave this
is the church you need this is the
church for the homeless the rejects the
nobodies right and I know we spoke about
it years ago by members telling you I
said Brian this is in the church this is
a rehab facility man you gonna blame
come on could come there and have their
life change so talk a little bit about
like what would happen at the altar in
the early days and what's still
happening now oh yeah I was absolutely
like to say you know we just want to be
we don't have a program I don't care for
programs you know ask the people say did
you get a program when you got here and
they say yes I'm say who did you get it
from because I got a fire you know but
anyway you know just just to let it rip
tater chip
just father worship up and see where it
goes and see what the Holy Spirit does
you know I mean I don't have to speak
nobody has to speak the Holy Spirit can
speak on his own you know if it goes
that way we just like to follow the
Spirit of God and I mean in the early
days it was it was really really crazy
you remember that little warehouse yeah
that's what it started in like a small
warehouse that was you sort of like
storage a storage unit yeah church was
birthed out of that maybe 2,000 square
feet
we'd have to open the doors a garage
don't fill up with with needles with
meth with cocaine drugs would be thrown
on the altar you know we and afterwards
we'd have to go flush it down the toilet
you know I take somebody with me to make
sure that I flushed a man you know
because we're talk about spiritual
warfare you know so money come on I need
accountability some go with me but uh
and that's why it was in the early days
man people were just coming and
neighbors throw and it still happens you
know okay
I've got I've got a needle over here at
a bar in a body that a woman just put on
the altar and I keep it up here as a
reminder for what I do and it's okay
we'll get rid of your needles for you
we'll get rid of your dope whatever just
come just come so we always open the
altar up there is no specific altar time
the altar time is whenever the Spirit of
God moves on you amen and so we just
flow in the prophetic and I love what
you're teaching about Cris violets in
minutes he's one of my favorites and any
so you know he's so in tune with the
prophetic and that's that's basically
what our services are we just flow in
the prophetic the prophetic worship
prophetic word yeah I don't know if
you're familiar I know you're familiar
with the fivefold yeah you know we
operate in the five hold here and
everybody's identified a bank gift and
so if one of those have something safe
the Lord gives them something you know
the the might they'll come up and they
speak to the crowd and and they say you
know it just it feels up at the altar
it's so it's still pretty much the same
amen but we do a lot of discipleship now
we do a lot of training you know I
myself have five
was that that I train on Monday nights
but we do a lot of discipleship now you
know helping people get grounded and
rooted in the word so we've kind of
evolved into really discipleship
five-fold discipleship so amen yeah
that's good man it's how it's always
been a place for like I said people who
who need discipleship that's that's one
it's not just coming to to hear a sermon
or it's funny you that you actually used
the word program because early on like
when I left Church whatever year was
early on it was because it was a program
like I remember going to the church that
I was attending which was right down the
road from the old cave they would they
would hand us itinerary and they would
he would say three fast three slow
taking up an offering so in so it's
gonna come up and give this we got our
missionaries gonna say any you just sit
there and watch it like a spectator and
yeah and it's so weird because we're
talking about the presence of God and
trying and people having an encounter
with the god of the universe that made
everything he loves you he knows you you
have an encounter with this and then we
you know I'm saying we take the needles
we take the drugs whatever we throw it
away we get free from it but then many
of us come into the bondage of religion
where there's rules and regulations and
do's and don'ts and you have to think
like me you have to act like me you have
to speak like me you have to pretend
that you don't like these things or
whatever the case is and people put down
the bondage of drugs and alcohol and
things like that and they pick up the
bondage of religion which at the same
time I think rules and regulations and
do's and don'ts are very good that's
what the word religion means some people
need that especially people who were
like dependent on drugs and alcohol to
get through the day like you need to be
told
touch not taste not type a deal so
there's definitely room for that but
have you had experience with that where
like because I know people would come in
and they would sense the freedom in the
cave and there was even a time early on
where there was a sign up to say like
judgment-free zone you know I hold on
wait wait you you don't just get to just
kind of
come here run loose like there are
parameters you can't sleep around with
the women who were coming off of drugs
like you know I'm saying there's been
some some stuff like that in the early
days of learning talked about like I
guess the rules and the regulations that
go on but but that are good you have a
good reason yeah and I think you know
the main thing is Richard to look at is
people on an individual basis you can't
do every person the same is that makes
sense yeah I have to we have to look at
their wall where are they at where are
they not at some people you have to give
a little bit more grace to it that makes
sense until they grow into that place
you don't saying we have to be we can't
automatically as soon as I get free you
know begin to dog them out you know you
got to do this you got to be that other
yeah because they're on a journey and
their journeys not where another
person's journey is you know you know
their revelation is not what another
person's revelation is so it's it's
important to discern where they are and
what they need and so that comes we're
just spending time with them and that's
one of the you know the one of the
things in the church that we really
don't do enough of is spend time with
each other because how am I gonna get to
know you and how am I gonna get to know
where you are unless I spent some time
with you
amen so the rules and regulations and as
you grow then you know Paul said this to
Timothy says commit these things that I
have given you under faithful men but
what does that mean that means these
people are faithful so what if they're
faithful faithful over a little make you
ruler over bites okay so as you're
faithful I commit more to you I give
more to you you know to saying some
there there are certain guidelines in
the Bible we know that there are do's
and don'ts in the bottle we get that but
it's the trickiest and and or the gift
is let me say it's not the trick but the
gift is is knowing how to apply those
when to apply those come on in people's
lives and say okay dude look we've been
on this journey for a year you keep
falling to the same thing yeah and it's
beat you up is saying let's come
together and figure out why because I
know you want to be free but I'm saying
it's no no condemnation
yeah there's no judgment in that it's
just that I want to see you free and
operating in the fullness of God that I
know that you can operate in and that's
you know that's the main thing that's my
goal is to raise people up amen yeah and
just help them get where they need to be
so that they can step in and operate in
their gifts and they can raise others up
in that I mean it should be like the
domino effect oh yeah that's good man in
that kind of its kind of like a piggy
back to where I'll kind of wanted to go
with this episode to talk about and I'm
genuinely down to learn like I'm I'm
coming to you as a brother wanting to
learn and the stuff I've learned and
then what you've learned and then see
you share some stuff on social media to
know that we're both dealing with this
we're talking about people who are going
through trials and they keep they're in
a stuck in a cycle they're repeating the
same thing over and over whether it's a
drug addiction pornography addiction
whether fits of anger and rage or
whatever the case is they're dealing
with this stuff and like what is the
route let's deal with the route so that
kind of builds the framework for what I
wanted to talk about is dealing with
these demons right this like the whole
spiritual warfare spiritual bondages and
things like that and which demons do we
rebuke and cast out and which demons are
sent here to teach us by God like God
allowing these things to come into our
life to buff it us to make us even as
Feingold it's dealing with the fire of
God of sending these trials and and God
articulating these I believe these
trials for our journey and in our life
he knows everything there's no place
note that we can go where he's not there
and then cuz I listened to a lot of Todd
white and any demon we're casting it out
we're rebuking it we're moving strong
you know everything's if it's not good
it's of the devil and you know so
there's that extremism there that part
is part of it like people are dealing
with demonic addictions and strongholds
but sometimes like these these obstacles
in our life will keep repeating the
cycles because we haven't dealt with the
root and God wants to us wants us to not
just deal with the demons who come in
but to really chop down the
with the Bible calls binding the
strongman how do we know what is a good
is it just I think the for me the simple
answer is just discernment like you said
I don't think there's a right or wrong
but how do we discern that insulins life
because there's people who are in
abusive situations their enablers for
things going on in their life they
wanted to stop what's your take on some
of that yeah I think one of the first
thing you said the word disarmed it you
know it for me I have to discern you
know did I invite this you know did I do
this you know what I'm saying because
like you know for me you know I had
hepatitis C at one time from shooting
note so everybody said what you need to
take authority over there and bondage
but you know what I invited that into my
body because of a choice I made hmm and
so I think for me a lot of the attacks
you know are self-inflicted but also
even though they're self-inflicted and
what comes against us God takes those
same thing and uses though like you just
said a few minutes ago but we do know
that according to scripture that the the
enemy goes you know to and fro and he
and he went to Lord and he totally hates
God said have you considered my servant
Joe and he said you can do anything but
killing so God gave him permission to go
and do the things that he did to Joe and
I believe that even our life you know
that God allows things they don't come
from god but God allows them you know
the enemy chunks and what in what really
ends up happening and if you'll really
see it behind the scenes is what's
happened the whole time is the enemy is
being used by God the enemy is being
punked out it's hard hard to fathom an
for a lot of people I get out he's being
pulled out because God's saying okay you
can do it you know he's watching
and so God takes it and he uses that to
mold us to shape us to make us into who
we need to be or to work something out
of us
amen and you know I think a lot of this
too is we go by then I know that where I
came from the life I live you know we're
body soul and spirit that's when we are
body soul and spirit something happens
you know we get born again our spirits
great our spirits good amen
they were born again you know in a row
we know our body amen but our soul over
the years gets damaged our soul gets
scarred our soul gets wounded and it's
in those wounds that the enemy comes in
and he can use the wounds of the past
okama unforgiveness hatred anger
whatever it may be you know maybe
somebody was molested or what what I'm
just saying that those are the soul
wounds that we and those soul wounds
have to be dealt with you know from the
past because if we don't then we'll
always leave an open door for the enemy
to come in anyway so there needs to be
inner healing in our soul Jobe said
something interesting he said out of the
bitterness of my soul will I speak and
so that's very interesting to me because
he was very bitter new in his soul so
the condition of his soul was revealed
there is mouth because we know out of
the abundance of the heart the mouth
speaks
and if you don't reference the word
heart out it literally means the soul so
it's really out of the abundance of the
soul the mouth speaks what's the
condition of our soul and so I think the
enemy plays on that he knows the
condition and he comes against us in
those areas you know but I'm like you I
do think that God takes and he uses
everything you know good bad and ugly
yeah you know or are good and so on it's
it's light and it's darkness it's two
kingdoms it's the kingdom of darkness
and it's the kingdom of light you know
and I think that the you know for me to
speak revelation is the best information
you know I'm saying you know I've seen
both sides I've seen the darkness you
know I've seen demonics the same demons
you know but I've also seen angels I've
seen the Spirit of God you know I'm
saying so we got to understand that
there's a conf yeah and there'll always
be the conflict yeah members oh yeah
it's uh it's part of the sovereignty of
God I believe right of that everything
he created everything there's nothing
like outside of God like there's a this
enemy that formed outside of God who's
gonna rival God and one day overthrow
God and I hate you God like God is
sovereign and once you it's hard for a
lot of people to grasp because it's like
Oh God knew about my heard God let this
person people have to have
kind of rationalize that or kind of get
over that and in their own way it could
be hard for a lot of people there's a
lot of people bitter at God because of
the past trauma but like healing comes
to the broken places first man and God
wants wants to hear this I think for me
it's like a personal checklist my
checklist is James 4:7 it's been my
foundational scripture of coming out of
deep witchcraft and occultism and
demonic oppression
well I remember calling somebody from
TBN the little prayer line and I told
him my situation and they gave me that
scripture and this was in 2000 right and
they gave me that scripture and I've
it's been my Scripture to this day IRA
sign all my autographs and sign my CDs
with it James 4:7 it basically says
submit yourself to God come on resist
the devil and he will be that's like my
checklist to make sure that what type of
oppression that's going on in in my life
I'm not exempt you're not exempt but am
I submitted to God in every area is
there secret sin in my life is there
hidden objectives and hidden motives do
I want to build a platform to get
followers or to validate my message or
whatever the case is like you have to
deal with it like the inner working so
checklists submit yourselves to God do
that in every area like daily the Bible
says to examine yourself to see whether
you're in the faith submit yourself to
God resist the devil if that temptation
is coming if if you keep falling for the
same thing show some resistance eat a
little bit man if we it says if we take
a step towards God he takes a step
towards us right so just show a little
bit of resistance submit to yourselves
to God resist the devil and he'll flee
make sure that you're submitted to God
if you're not submitted to God in these
areas it's like it's like open open
season for attacks and thoughts to come
through these demons and we talk about
how scary and demonic and drug addiction
itself is simply thought patterns in
strongholds that present themselves up
against the knowledge of God within our
mind every single one of us ungodly
believes us what we like to call it
absolutely and you're absolutely right
man I mean submission is everything
because when we're submitted to him you
know let you said it you said you know
just submit and resist submit resist and
I found the more that I resist the
easier it gets because the more I resist
they see the less strong all they have
on me they see the less hold they have
on me you know can't get me in this area
so guess what you're gonna have to try
something else you know what I'm saying
Jesus himself said it says when the
house has been clean
come on yeah fill it back up with the
Spirit of God because guess what this
dudes coming back with seven more
looking for a house looking for
somewhere but if we're submitted under
God amen
I submit my mind my will my emotions
everything to God and so it really makes
it difficult for the enemy to trap me
you know I mean so on amen brother
let me okay this is a point that I want
to do like an in-depth teaching on this
because this is this is good man and uh
we have evangelists coming to the cities
we have the cave ministry which is like
a beacon of hope in the city for drug
addicts and things like that and it goes
back to what you said at the beginning
and I'm glad you said it about
discipleship about leaving in
discipleship and it ties in with the
scripture you just gave that and I'm
wondering are a lot of preachers are a
lot of revivalist evangelists who just
come in do their thing convert souls and
leave are they doing more damage than
good if someone who comes and they hear
the message of the gospel they come to
the altar demons leave leave their soul
they get set free cast out that person
goes back into life they don't know
about the scripture you just quoted
about when the spirits leave they go get
seven demons badder than themselves or
you can't ask me out I bet you can't
cast these guys out they go get those
spirits and they come back to that crack
addict that I'm saying a drug and they
come back to try to take root and it
worse seven times worse and it says that
they're seven times worse than they were
before right oh man like that's the
power of the cyber
not to just come in and say well why
converted so many people and save so
many souls and now they're just walking
around aimlessly to get back man church
structure discipleship and teach them
how to shut those doors and how to get
filled with the Holy Spirit but be being
filled with the Holy Spirit on a daily
basis you know I've seen a place I've
seen it done the right way and I've seen
it done the wrong way you know there's a
good friend in town right now he's in
the Bayou by the name of Dave a good
friend of mine and you know he doesn't
know right away he gets said but he
plugs them in you don't just leave them
hanging you know saying he plugs them in
somewhere that they can get you know
just plug them in anywhere he puts them
in a good place you don't say so they
can get this up ships but then I've just
seen him hit town and run and then
you've got you know you got a thousand
people that don't know what to do and
all of a sudden you know and the sad
thing is is okay we're okay we're
alright we're saying we're born again
boom we're good and you know two months
later a month later wow they're right
back out there and like you say seven
times worse discipleship man it's cheap
it's really it's really key because you
have to teach these guys the level of
authority I mean they're we're talking
about the kingdom of darkness it's a
kingdom which means the king's domain so
what does that tell me the earth is
Satan's domain it's just is that's what
that's what the Bible says the earth is
his domain is two kingdoms domain the
Kings domain and there are a level of
authority and if people don't understand
these levels of authority man they're
just it's open season for them you know
Satan you know Jesus calls out bind the
strongman and when you look that up the
strongman is Satan that's that's your
prince that's the king that's the one
and then you're going to principalities
which is leadership
you know there's generals and then
there's powers which is our emotions you
know we're dealing with powers but that
we're doing actually dealing with our
emotions then there's rulers of darkness
and spiritual wickedness but we don't
sit down and explain these levels of
authority to people and what these if
the power these authorities have then we
just leave people up for open bait man
you know it's open season on them you
know what I mean yeah
and then Holly I mean the whole
authority that that that we have in the
expectation of of like deliverance that
we're able to walk in and we was talking
about you've been doing a lot of
teaching like you're doing a series on
the power of words and the power of
criticism and the words wisely because
we can't take them back
there's power in our speech the things
that were entertaining that you know
what I'm saying that the things that
were speaking over ourselves we talked
about like the whole ungodly belief like
ah you know I'm saying I'll never amount
to anything
everybody hates me I can never find I
can never find a church that I love you
know what I'm saying okay well you're
creating that as you speak it that's the
power of your speech that your every
Church you're gonna go to you're gonna
find something that you disagree with
and walk out what they don't like my
tattoos nobody shook my hand and you're
creating that like even what my podcast
and everything that the Lord you I'm
saying given me I've spoke I've created
it I've spoken into existence I speak
blessings over it we prayed before we
went live prayer is like this communion
with God but we're speaking it out God I
pray that people will be set free you're
not just asking God but I know my power
as a son to command it that when people
are listening they're going to be set
free come on
I get the inboxes I get the phone calls
I get the messages people are listening
to some random kid on YouTube or
whatever with tattoos sitting in his
room praying and they're getting set
free in the Holy Spirit's encountering
them in their room because we have the
faith to believe it to watch out and and
that goes for everything that's the
power of our words or we create as we
speak and the whole vibe or spirit of it
or whatever when we speak we create it
it's the spirit of expectancy as well
how many times of have we just shown up
the church to be one thing and how many
how many conferences or church services
have you done what you're expecting guys
moving and you're not gonna leave or
you're not gonna budge I'm not remember
we'd stay in church for hours laying on
our face at the altar until God moved
and guess what whoa he moved we could
just came and went
got dinner and left and all this kind of
stuff but we expected a move of God and
it happens as part of the spirit of
expectancy with witches throughout the
entire entirety of the scriptures yeah I
don't think people understand the man
that you know once words come out your
mouth and go into the atmosphere now now
the enemy can take those words and has
authority over those words come on and
you make things come to pass you know
like you said I'm nobody I'll never be
nobody you know I hate my life well if
you keep saying you hate your life
that's what you're gonna hate your life
yeah if you keep saying you're gonna
hate your job you're gonna hate your job
it just is so that we can you know we
talk about spiritual warfare but a lot
of this spiritual warfare too I know
that God uses but some of it we bring on
ourselves simply by the words that we
speak you know I'm saying just like you
said I'll be nothing I'm everybody but
now I'm battling my mind with my
identity because I said on nobody yes
what I feel like a nobody and I don't
know my identity amen
yeah you know and we talk about
criticism while ago that's one of the
most you know it's it's very deceptive
you know we could see things like a
credit card you know we know that that's
deceptive right amen get $7,100 you know
but 28% interest could be 65 when you
pull you know pay it off you know sexual
immorality we can see that it's
deception
yeah but many times the deception we
don't see it's things like criticism you
know gossip all of that is it all that
is deception that we really don't see by
the words we speak amen and I tell
people all times I mean criticism is the
food for people's ego you know your
Jesus your favorite food of your ego is
criticism why because it puts you in a
better light it makes you feel better
so we criticize everybody else and we
feed our own ego man and you know yeah
amen and that's deception that's
deception what we're speaking in
people's life why why is that why does
that go hand in hand with church culture
pastor like it goes hand in hand like
the gossip the backbiting is it that you
enjoy people seeing worse off than you
are like I'm better than him at least I
don't do this at least I'm not doing
that
is it bursts out of something like that
because it goes Han to him it witch
culture that there's a gossip they're
gonna talk about you Christians kill
their wounded those how it comes like I
think I think the majority of people
listening right now they've experienced
that and if they haven't they will it
just comes with the territory as part of
that culture talk a little bit about
that man well I think we have to go back
to you know we have to go back to a
spiritual warfare because I believe that
the enemy knows the enemy has seen it
for years even you know even biblically
speaking you know saying that things
that happened between Paul and Barnabas
and the the you know the dissension that
arose between the two of them doctrine
enemy knows right but if he could come
in and disrupt that if he can separate
you if he can pull you out you know and
so here's the thing about it though is I
see mature Christians there's been in
this thing for years I'm still falling
for come on man you know still falling
for the same deception over and over
you've been in this thing
23 years you know I'm saying man I mean
man you need you need to wake up and
realize that you're being division let
me tell you oh let me tell you something
you know we talked about Ananias and
sapphire and in the in the book of Acts
you know the Bible says they they lied
in the presence of the Holy Ghost and
they had to carry them out but if you
had to look at why the holy why did they
die here's the reason they died listen
there was such a great move of God there
was such a great presence of God the
church was being handed to daily there
was a huge outpouring there was a huge
revival going on are you still there
yeah I'm here okay there was a huge
revival going on but when they came and
they lied in the presence of the Holy
Ghost what were they doing they were
hindering a move of God they were
hindering unity within the church so you
know what the Holy Spirit says I'm not
having any of this
you're not going to bring division in
the midst of what I'm doing here in
Jerusalem so what we have to understand
I mean the enemy knows the power of
division okay why because they know
scripture too and they know what Jesus
said a house divided will not stand and
if a house divided will
not staying then come on let's divide
the house yeah that's that's exactly
that's exactly it because we've seen
total we've seen church splits over that
we've seen yep we've seen people who
were like like mighty men of God get
into that I'll talk about it a lot
because I've seen this a lot like just
with the competition with with church
leaders or and it happens a lot with
young people full of the Holy Spirit who
come into the church and this is
something I'm sure you've you've had to
kind of check yourself on to make sure
you don't do because because you're
conscious of this I know you are when
other people come and they start moving
in the power of God there's a lot of
churches where a young man will come in
let's look at Brandon Sanders for
example or me where doesn't matter this
is some people that we know who come
into the church in they're moving with
the power of God they've been set free
delivered they got a message they they
don't care what people think that
they're sharing the gospel right there
can come into some churches and there's
a target on their back because the
congregation's going to that young man
for prayer the congregation of people
like hey this guy will men when he prays
stuff happens bro you know and in there
and the pastor hears that and that young
man has with the pastor used to have
before religion kicked in before the
there's bills and we got to balance
money and how much am I gonna get on for
this offering like these other things
that come through and you have to keep
your hands clean in your heart pure so
it happens man I know I know you've seen
that there's some because a lot of
people who come into the cave ministries
come off with drugs they're set free and
they're running like they're running
with the fire of God in yeah and and
stuff like that so have you seen have
you seen that is that something yeah you
know and to be honest and because you
know transparency is God's favorite
color you know I've had to guard myself
from that myself I mean I'm not immune
to it you know what I'm saying
so I've had to in a and I've even failed
for it in the early years you know I'm
saying and I've learned here's what I
really feel like you know when you're in
the Apostolic you know I'm saying when
you
the Apostolic mindset the apostolic
heart those things don't affect you
because that's what apostolic nuts
it raises other people up it sends other
people out you know what I'm saying huh
yeah you're right but if you're not
careful a spirit of jealousy will come
in they preach better than me then
they're all fine you know I got to shut
this down people are gonna be going to
them yeah and man let me tell you
something if you would sit back and let
some of these people go it would still
it would take some of the stuff off
here's what I've learned
amen really God sent them to help me
yeah come on come on beside me yeah look
cuz I can't play with a hundred people
like I used to yeah yeah I did a couple
of Sundays ago it was probably 75 laid
hands on 75 people when it was over
there's nothing left
God's in me some of those old fire
people send me some of that you know to
me so I've got to where I welcome it but
you're absolutely right there's a lot
that don't because I think the problem
is is that we have to have it under our
thumb you know I'm saying we've got to
be look you can still be in charge
without bounding people up you can still
be the one that God has placed over it
to oversee it without putting people
under your thumb amen
because there's a lot of people out
there and you know I have to ask myself
as a pastor yeah
am i hindering people from stepping into
their destiny you know I love to open my
pillow filled up to two young Christians
you know and say man come on up here you
know it's your turn I'm putting you out
you got to go yeah I love I can never
blame you for that yeah yeah yeah you
know it's just we're here to complete
complete not compete
we're here to complete each other and I
think it's important then and it be
honest I think that that's one of the
places you know because I hear people
talking all the time well I'm raising up
sons awesome I'm glad you're raising up
sons but what are you letting the sons
do you know or you allowing the sons to
speak or you like and it goes all the
way back to spiritual warfare because
we're still it's still divining you know
what I'm saying it's still something
that we fighting with on the
inside and it's jealousy it's a spirit
of jealousy it's an ugly thing yeah man
um hunter sent I wanted to I got a
couple more things I want to talk to you
about there's some questions here I'm
just just gonna let you know a lot of
people are eating it up that you're like
a breath of fresh air to a lot of people
who probably have given up on Church
culture and haven't been around a church
in a long time so a lot of people are
like you know they're giving you a lot
of props writing down a lot of the
quotes and stuff that you're singing so
they are really enjoying this so just
quick shout out to that um there's been
a lot of mention lately about cults
Christian coats you know what I'm saying
I've been a part of some cults as far as
I just not like a scary word but just
like a move like different movements of
of Christians or people who believe
something outside of the box I know the
cave ministry gets called a cult has
been called a call I was called a cult
leader when we were trying our best to
just to do biblical ministry and
evangelism and we're not trying to do
anything weird anything outside the box
trying to keep everything lined up with
the word and they would call you a cult
in you know they called pretty much
called Jesus the same thing so that so
it's being talked about a lot there's a
lot of Fringe movements and I say the
French stuff which is like some of the
different Christian leaders who were not
accepted by the the mainstream they
would be called false teachers and false
prophets but these people have like good
good fruitful ministries and to some
extent because there's some good stuff
there when you like every cult has
something that they're bringing to the
table that the people are drawn to like
I was drawn to the black Hebrew
Israelite men for some time and I was
drawn to that they go out into the
streets and proclaim and teach and make
disciples and bring people in and that
it looked biblical to me it looked like
what Paul and those guys were doing back
in the day so all these coats have have
something about them you guys have been
called a cold front from like day one I
think you printed out some shirts yeah
you just kind of accepted it and I call
it like I say it's a cult by definition
it's not a bad thing it's just someone's
actually who believes something
against the norm you don't understand so
I guess I guess Protestant Christianity
it would be a call every single fashion
of the world but talk a little bit about
that word in the acronym or what it
means to you now yeah I think you know
yeah we will call a cult from the
beginning simply because people you know
people judge what they don't understand
yeah and that's even that's what they
don't understand yeah right and if it
doesn't fit in the you know the
denominational box if it doesn't really
fit into what they used to and not look
they didn't help that my last name was
Jones so Brian Jones are you came to
jail no that's funny I'm sorry so yeah
we were called cult from the beginning
because it wasn't what people were used
to I think any time that you really
follow the spirit and the holy spirit
and you allow the Holy Spirit to do man
you're gonna pick up all kinds of names
you know I'm saying yeah so and what's
craziest you know I was I was raised and
I'm not gonna call I really was that was
called Tish you know and then I got free
from that now I'm a cult leader what we
did we just embraced it you know we were
good with it hey see you LT Christ is
unconditional love transforms so we just
had shirts made it with the acronym cult
Christ this unconditional love transform
so we just rolled with it you know what
I mean we just rolled with it we just
were used to it now yeah and I think you
know as far as the cave ministries or
any ministry like this you know it
really doesn't have the structure like a
denomination it doesn't have you know
the overseers it doesn't have all of
that you know I got a board of trustees
we sit down and we talk and we make
decisions okay but we're not governed by
all of these other things and all
another state or turret or something
yeah yeah exactly
now I do set up on a Pastor Chris phone
at the river you know that's my posture
that's what I'm held accountable to you
know and he still disciples me you're
still getting my grits
you'll still ask me what's going on but
I do have accountability it's not like I
don't have a
abilities but sometimes you know in this
structure unlike denominational I have
to make decisions you know rather it's
some financial decisions the building
decisions leadership decisions etc etc
and not all the time let me just say
this are people going to agree with that
and the moment they don't agree with
that all of a sudden I'm a cult leader
you know Madonna's really fit yeah yeah
yeah you know just because you didn't
have a vote in that okay God called me
to on this play I'm just being honest
with you I'm not you know hey I got
accountability I got 12 min that said
about enemy with me and we discussed if
we come up with the best way so I think
but it goes back to just not
understanding you know people judge what
they don't know yeah it's exactly what
it is and people are quick to call false
prophet when are heresy er like you have
the different people out there heresy
hunters and they're looking for and
that's what I'm tell you what that that
was like one of my big things at the end
was just like because it happened with
even doing the gospel rap you know we
did that as a ministry we travel doing
it and like I would have conversations
with Christians and we would agree on so
much but they would keep quizzing me
about my beliefs until they found
something that we didn't agree with and
this like that we're looking for and it
AHA found it we can't walk together it's
like what and it would be a little weird
like um saying my nude stuff to me that
I did that it's not like life or death
situations or whatever the case is
because there is some other stuff that I
can show you in the scripture that will
blow your mind and your you know stay
away from me and things like that but
I'm not even talking about that I'm
talking about just the simplicity stuff
and it was weird that like a lot of
Christians do that they want to make
sure that they have it all figured out
and they have all the doctrine right and
I've been there everybody else and
nobody does nobody does in fact you can
you can find anybody's ministry and it's
whoever you listen to you can find fault
in it you can find their interpretation
on particular scriptures that are way
off that make no
since you know but but on other stuff
they're right on like you follow
everything but that and that's just with
with with everybody nobody has it all
figured out like that I like what uh
there was a quote by Damon Thompson
years ago it says they might not agree
with your your doctrine they may
disagree with the doctrine but they
can't say anything about your love for
people and that's how how did the Lord
say that we're gonna you know be known
that we're Hitler here's where of
history it's about our love for one
another and I love for people and I
think at the end of the day that's what
it comes down to man love covers um just
like a multitude of sins
love st brother fuels the faith what's
confusing your faith you know a moment
in scripture says it's supposed to be
love man that's right absolutely I
totally agree man I mean you know if
we're not walking in love you know we
just let's just shut the doors and go
home amen
you know and I'll totally agree with you
man that you know here's the thing about
it is things that I preached three years
ago I've had a different revelation on
tonight yeah and I see that I was wrong
but you know people don't want to admit
that yeah but I could have stayed stuck
on that said no I'm not moving but God
revealed in Scripture that you know what
Brian you weren't right there and it's
okay to say that I was wrong it's okay
to say that I wasn't right you know
because we're all evolved I believe in
evolution if you believe in evolution
cuz we're all evolving you know I'm
saying we're on a journey and I'm not
where you're at you're not where I'm at
you know but we're all headed for the
same destination yeah and I think that
that's that that's the key just because
I may not believe exactly like somebody
else and it doesn't make them wrong and
me right it just means that I have a
revelation of it you know I is not seen
and ears not heard the things that the
Lord has prepared for those who love him
so what does that tell me there's some
things that none of us have seen yet yes
some things that none of us have
experienced yet you know what I'm saying
come on somebody so I believe it I
believe it man and I think that um like
I think that that's what it comes down
to is uh it just is just walking in love
for some people it's too simple yeah I
know what I'm saying when I got into the
is
like stuff like it became like grace
became too complicated you know saying
you were too deep for the gospel right
because it the Bible talks about who has
bewitched you from the simplicity of the
gospel and it's it's really it's a
simple love story you know really it's
grace for all and uh you know if that if
that message ever change is if that if
that that love ceases to exist then I
think that we're in an error man no and
I can look at people and that's what's
kind of led me here to what I'm doing
now it's like I look at people of other
faiths men or people who don't believe
like I believe or they've been turned
off because of a misrepresentation of
Jesus and whatever the case is but they
still love God in their treat their
family right they treat their friends
right they are good employees you don't
I'm saying they don't they don't bicker
and back by and complain and stuff and
that's that's what it's about it's about
walking in love man towards all people
and that's what the grace of Christ
allows us to do to show love to those
who have never experienced it to show
grace to those who have never
experienced grace we've seen that happen
for the for the first time many times in
in the cave ministries man I mean I
wanted to piggyback just a little bit
too because you we mentioned people
coming in on on on drugs people in
cooking cooking drugs all over the place
I mentioned on one of my first early
podcast with and I'll go and say is now
it was it was a rapper named Pyrex I
mentioned on the show with him a lot of
people quote me on this and they they're
kind of confused I asked this guy who
does a lot of street ministry and I said
I said Pyrex I because have you guys
ever seen somebody full of full of
demons and and confused and they can't
even look you in the eye and there's
just so much darkness going on within
them I mean if you guys ever pray for
somebody and seeing God delivered them
on the spot and you're the next day or
even that day you're talking to like a
total different person who's got his
countenance who can hold a conversation
with you and it's not freaking out in
their head I was setting up the question
to have him testify and he said no we've
never know
seeing that I was like oh my god and a
lot of people quote me on that there was
like man that was crazy he said he never
seen that but and I set that question up
referring to the cave because there
would be countless times for people who
would for like four or five days cooking
dope and they wander into the cave
ministries and they get set free demons
cast out of them and they can hold it
they couldn't look you in the eye they
couldn't they could barely speak they're
people who would mumble because their
demons were talking to him they would
mumble under their breath and he
couldn't look you in the eye they get
set free and it's like a total new
person walks in there man and that's
what I'm referring to man we've seen
that countless times with your ministry
and and you've you've been faithful it's
a learning experience it's a learning
curve part of the reason why I respect
you or any teacher I won't learn under
any teacher who claims to have it all
figured out there's many people there
like like and I can say this this is a
perfect example so it was just like we
were doing an extensive revelation on on
tithing when I first started going to
the cave and I started seeing some
parameters and some things that the
other churches would teach that was
unbiblical
and simply demonic they would put you in
London if you don't if you didn't pay
your tithe God would take it from you
and just this weird stuff that put me in
bondage from other churches I came to
the cave the first time the first Sunday
and we I pulled you to the sighs hey I
love the man
what about tithes a man let me talk to
you you say you know what man God
showing me some stuff about tithing -
and you're right it's confirmation and
from that moment on not because I'm
anybody but that you are open to change
like you were open to get to the bottom
of it and not have it all figured out
right if we don't do it this way then
people aren't going to give we have to
formulate it in such a way where people
we have to make them give you know that
type of thing hats off and kudos to you
for always being open man and and it's
consistent with with the message and
with the love man you know I think the
horses are is is to be right you know
I'm saying yeah someone forever
searching and we're forever searching
not only our hearts but Scripture and
hear from the spirit you know are we
right and that's what my associate
pastor Jerry I know you love Jerry
Spencer a man he's a nice
anyway you know that that's one of his
saying is he you know he says I'm gonna
stand in this pulpit teach he's I just
want to be right yeah and that means
even if I have to back up and say I was
wrong yeah it's okay it's okay to do
that man and I think that pride gets in
the way you're like no I'm not wrong oh
you mute it you're as far as you'll ever
do you mean if you can't learn any more
than and that's where you're gonna be
and you're gonna you know I'm saying and
you'll never go any further
yeah so yeah and you know you're so
right about I remember the people thats
came in man and just demonically possess
and man they would start manifesting
right in the middle of worship amen and
the cast out ain't nothing like casting
out Devils right in the middle of
worship amen so yeah there's been times
that I've been up there and a guy
grabbed me by the throat and pulled me
down on the floor you know because
here's the deal man like we're talking
about the encounter we go all the way
back there in and the encounter is going
to make those things manifest you know
the presence of God you look at them in
Scripture weary were Jesus came they
would run the hill fall down if you come
cast out before our time you know what
do you know so it's the presence of God
that's gonna get rid of that stuff man
you know the in corner amen
yeah you know I like I like I like the
whole you know I'm saying discipleship
thing and speaking truth there was like
a lot of deep revelation that we got
studying the scriptures about how demons
are casted out even just by simply
sharing the truth declaring the truth if
there's someone sitting in there who
believes and it could be just a change
of persona of the way that they see you
we talk in that would just go back to
all pastors or fake all pastors are just
about money and then you need a pastor
who's real and you could care less about
your money you know what I'm saying and
that changes your your perception those
spirits hate it
that pastor he just wants your money
they leave no no man no no no I met a
pastor who really loves me he cares
about me no no and by truth in coming to
a greater level of understanding about
who God is and how he
works in people ma'am there's like we
talk about deliverance
that's deliverance man sharing the truth
in love and doing it in such a way man
pastor Brian thank you for coming on the
show bro I enjoyed hanging out with you
so let's end in a prayer man so anybody
who's struggling with addiction anybody
who's struggling with their beliefs of
job of judgements towards pastors or
churches or ministers or having that
that hurt that they're still dealing
with these pastors did this stuff 10 15
years ago and ain't even thought about
that person and that person is still
holding on to bitterness and resentment
and it's hindering the way that they
they view Christians that they view
people and that they view God
so if you man if you want to start us
off with our prayer for deliverance
would that that be beautiful amen
hallelujah
Holy Spirit you know every person that
is listening you know where they're at
and where they're not at God you know
what they need it's the Holy Spirit
right now I just right now read Elise
you over them where they're sitting
where they're listening from Holy Spirit
that you would right now just begin to
move upon them I released the kingdom of
heaven over them where there's peace and
there's joy and there's there's
excitement there's happiness there's all
of these fruits of the Spirit God would
just begin to pour out upon them Lord
God that right now forgive Miss Jones
Lord angers don't bitterness Lord that
the Spirit of God would go inside and
begin to do a new word a fresh word
would go into that heart and heart and
pilot that fallow ground hallelujah
because today seeds of hope seeds of joy
seeds of love have been planted
so father right now the ground is being
prepared it is prepared already and
right now you're just pouring in the
veil pour into them Spirit of God spirit
of the Living God
hallelujah that they would have forgive
that pastor or whoever it was that
ministry whatever that hurt them our our
Lord that they didn't see it the way
they saw it and Lord right now in Jesus
thing that you would take them to a
place for that they can have fellowship
hallelujah fellowship with the brother
and fellowship with
got that they would find a people they
can connect to God
hallelujah that they can grow together
so god I just keep you the Lord for
every person that's listening in Jesus
name it is done amen man I love you bro
I love you man thanks for having me yeah
it's good stuff so if people want to
check out the cave ministries you guys
have a physical location and you also do
face book ministry as well you stream
your services and stuff like that go
ahead and give out the links and stuff
where people can check you guys out so
smooth the cake ministries in Mobile our
address is 601 Ziggler Circle Mobile
Alabama 601 Ziggler Circle Mobile
Alabama hey we're here Sunday mornings
at 11:00 Wednesday night Bible study and
we have all kind of psych worship
classes that you can get involved in but
get on 101 we can hang out and be
awesome and you can catch us a
livestream at the decay ministries org
and go to our archives and what some of
our stuff hey we'd love to hear from you
you know hey we're here I say this you
know we're I love I wanna have this real
quick truth yeah we're not after your
money amen
because I believe this God is not a
deadbeat dad you know take care of that
which he birthed and he birthed this
ministry so guess what he's gonna take
care of it I Love You Man I love you bro
thanks for coming on all right man talk
to you soon pastor Brian Jones of the
cave ministries ladies and gentlemen
good brother that's one of the real ones
there like I said I mean he means he
means the world to me
so the early days of my ministry and
being able to step out in faith and we
talked about the prophetic so much in
here in the voice of the Holy Spirit and
growing in the knowing of that voice and
then he created a safe place I give a
lot of stories and examples where I've
been able to speak out the things God
has put in my spirit and it's been in
his church he's trusted me to standard
and we've seen we've seen healings we've
seen deliverance we've seen salvation by
the unction of the Holy Spirit
and and so yeah my hat always goes off
the Pastor Brian and in the work that
he's doing at the cave ministry dealing
with um
hurt church hurt and things like that
that's a big one man that that's a
that's a real big one that we all have
to deal with like offense comes in
offense is deep like in the scriptures
like as far as a studying spiritual
warfare to be offended can can can mess
with people so much man and play a huge
detriment to your faith we have and if
you haven't been offended most of you
guys I'm pretty sure are if you're
seasoned and in in your spiritual walk
with God like it comes it's part of the
testing you know but it's what you do
with that whether it's the way you were
treated by a church a pastor or ministry
or people gossiping about you whatever
I've experienced it you know I'm saying
and and we have to be careful because it
can birth within you the wrong motives
and you can do the right thing but with
the wrong motives that's starting a
ministry you can be and nothing that you
know I'm saying like early on some of
that was there for me of like having
rejection from certain churches or
ministers or whatever and then you like
I'll show them let me be successful let
me do this outside of that and you could
be doing the right thing but with the
wrong spirit and with the wrong motive
and in the scripture says that unless
unless the Lord builds the house the
people the people labor in vain I mean
I've spent a lot of money over the years
in the past building stuff creating
logos and doing stuff for validation
from people and things like that I'm
sure many of us have and I've had to
I've had to repent and I've had to
delete things and and ask God to remove
roots of bitterness and stuff like that
out of me in the majority of you have to
and it's part of the process man and and
I want to say that too if you feel that
creeping up in your heart if you're
building something if you're pursuing
something out
of anger out of bitterness or
i-told-you-so
or I'll show you cut it off at the root
man because your waist years your waist
finances and you'll run a lot of people
off who God has brought into your life
you'll run them off and your mess-up
relationships and do things that you
can't undo you know what I'm saying
there's wisdom that come that comes to
this me and pastor Brown we go back we
haven't always seen I think I'm saying I
- I and like
I received a lot of back last night I
don't know about from Pastor Brian he's
always been a really good friend but
just the young church members and stuff
and I I have to look back I have to look
back at it just my whole thing with with
the caveman so many good memories but
you know when the cave grew it became
something a little bit different and
Pastor Brian's had to learn in Hue he's
open about that stuff and so like I
would bring in like some of the stuff I
would talk about you know I'm saying
well if I'm talking about aliens or the
Kundalini or or whatever whatever that's
outside the Bible or something that they
don't agree with or whatever the cases
my people people would lash out
people demonize what they don't believe
or what they don't what they don't know
anything about so I've had I've had to
deal with with that and if you build
something off of that man you have you
have to guard your heart you can't you
can't stay in that bitterness man you
can't stay in in in that rejection and
and and that heartache man you have to
forgive I don't believe that you forget
I believe that we have to forgive and we
have to move on but I would look at
stuff like that that would happen like
from the cave and at the time it hurt me
right we're just having words spoken
against you and he's a false prophet
he's just deceiving people he's that
he's this he's that I've heard it all we
all most of us have I think the majority
people listen I've dealt with Church
culture and you're bringing something
new to the table
and I'm so I thought with that at the
cave at the end of going there for some
years but I got offended I was hurt it's
because I was studying some
new bring something new to the table and
they didn't get it or whatever the case
is I got hurt but like with wisdom you
look back at it you have to look back at
it and there has to be perimeters like
these people or Pastor Brian like was
only doing the right thing to them like
if and I would do the same thing so my
hats off
you can't just let anybody come in and
just start teaching things that's that
goes against your core of belief system
and you know I'm saying that's only
right you start doing the church then
we're like hey we're I'm I started
seeing angels and seeing UFOs and all
kind of stuff and I started talking
about it openly like they didn't want to
have that and so like I said I got
offended early on I this is I can show
you in the Bible you know these things
but they're just protecting people and
there's a lot of ministries and things
that people get involved in that if you
bring something outside I'm even now as
open as my platform is I'm still guarded
against my platform a lot of Christians
a lot of Christian friends get mad
because I'll let New Agers come on and
we'll talk about New Age spiritual
concepts but when it comes to like the
biblical stuff I'm really guarded
against who I let on here
I believe in Pastor Brian up man I vouch
for everything that brother said and I
know most of you do too I'm reading the
comments and but when it comes to that
I'm not gonna let somebody come on here
and bash people or do condemnation or
say it's on this is the only way or
whatever there's a grace there and it's
a grace for learning and pastor bronze
definitely experienced that so even with
me being so open as I am and some people
can't stand like I have friends who
can't stand the new aids guests that I
have on they love me they support me
they love to hear me speak they learn
from me they get wisdom they support me
financially but this support mean they
don't support the New Agers they don't
support the X Muslims or whoever I have
from a different walk of life um and
just because I have somebody on here
doesn't
mean did I agree with everything that
they bring to the table that's so weird
I remember Earl even in the early days
of posting stuff by manly P Hall and
people still send me this like I'll
share some really good stuff to share
some really good quotes from manly P
Hall and then people will send me like
bad quotes from manly P Hall or stuff
that didn't make sense or seemed crazy
or whatever the case says you know well
what about this was like I don't know
nothing about that just judge me upon
the quote that I shared this little
excerpt you know I'm saying and so what
happened people on the show I've had
people I've had people on this shows who
would like I said we're not friends
anymore I've had cult leaders on here
I've had Brandon Barth robbed a NASCAR
Penske these people that we're not
really friends anymore you know what I'm
saying but judge it off of that episode
like that was a good episode it was in a
good spirit the Spirit of Truth and and
building upon that but it doesn't mean i
vouched for everything these people
doing I can't like I do my research but
I can't like get to the bottom of all
these people man I got like that'd be a
full-time job so I try to find equal
playing ground with everybody if I have
the New Ager on and they just are
excited to talk about love or meditation
hey I'm excited to talk about love and
meditation let's build you know what I'm
saying so I try to find that with
everybody like no matter what walk of
life you're from and it's been graceful
like we're you know way over a hundred
with probably about 120 episodes in now
and I felt good about every single one
of them like there's been like gyms in
every episode that people can learn from
that people can apply to their lives and
things like that so that's that's what
it's about man finding that common
ground with people and the scripture
says can two walk together unless they
agree and people are you know what I'm
saying people try to use that say hey I
don't agree with you we can't walk
together but hey just like the way I'm
phrasing it can two walk together unless
they agree I let's find what we agree on
and walk together right you know what
I'm saying so that's what it's about
it's not by becoming offended or
or man all of us have dealt with it and
it comes back down to the scripture
where Jesus tells Peter he says Peter I
want to tell you something
Satan has desired to sift you as wheat
but fear not for I've prayed for you
Jesus seen that the same way like this
universal that's gonna happen to you
Satan has desired to sift you to get you
off by yourself you're connected with
some people you're growing strong
whether it's this podcast whether it's
this community whether it's another
church you were involved with back
biting sarcasm and things like that come
in Satan wants to sift you as wheat
Satan has desired to sift you to get you
off by yourself to get you off by
yourself and to confuse you and let you
to hear you're the only one going
through this that's why like I'm trying
to say this as much as I can you are not
alone you're not alone I get so many
messages from people that's what does it
hey man I listened to your podcasts and
I know that I'm not alone I know that
I'm a Christian I believe in Christ he's
the way the truth in the life no man
comes to the Father but by him I believe
that but I also believe in aliens even
like Christie Christie's in the comment
section Christie folks
she always says like I love the truth
stick a podcast because this is the only
podcast I can come to and talk about
Jesus and aliens you know what I'm
saying I don't think that any topic is
off-limits there's a fear there's a
stigma there and in a lot of churches
that oh we can't talk about that or we
can't do this there are subjects that I
stray away from that people are
demanding me to speak on whether it's
the LGBTQ community stuff or transgender
or Flat Earth where do you stand on
flattered of true seekers tell us they
already know like if I say this they're
not gonna listen to me anymore it's like
look man I'm trying to choose my battles
wisely I'm not just trying to go out
here and just try to debate with people
and marginalize a fan base and stuff and
I talk to I talk to Pastor Brian before
we went live and I
said I told him about the audience
there's I think the majority Christian I
still use that word lightly because what
is a Christian these days you know what
I'm saying but the majority of people
believe in Jesus but there's people from
all walks of life who finds something
that they bear witness with that stands
out to them that they're not judged for
looking into or talking about and it's
about grace and peace and so you have to
you we it was funny you're like me and a
friend of mine uh si 115 Samuel McCray
we when we all went through that other
people go through it we had that we had
an inside joke is we said guard your
flock
be careful like there was times like
people couldn't even like my statuses on
Facebook cause people hey I see you like
true seeker status uh do you know who he
is do you know he's a cult leader do you
know he's this he's dad he believes in
aliens and the Kundalini and stuff like
that
it's crazy but you know what it we said
at the beginning it's about being
transparent speaking your truth not to
if I don't want to offend people that's
never the goal to offend someone but the
goal is just to like if you're into it
let me know yes freedom in that whatever
it is I don't care if I agree with it if
I think you're wrong or whatever the
case is but it gets weird when you have
pastors and ministries and stuff who
believe you're going to hell because you
think differently than no more you're
gonna be cursed or your dissonant this
type of stuff so it's about walking in
the truth in in love and and in love is
the key that sets the captives free man
at the end of the day the love of Christ
which is empowers you it enables you to
face your fears to to embrace others
look at Jesus who he was spending time
with and you can't tell me we look back
at Pastor Brian like I'm telling you
guys like this dude he really did start
off in like a little bitty warehouse
that you would like a storage unit and
and that thing was packed with people
who couldn't move shoulder to shoulder
because they had the best doctrine no
because they did everything right
because they were good no because that
they loved on people man it's cuz that
they loved on people where they were and
he's not lying prostitutes drug addicts
people been up cooking dope for days
come in people are led their things and
stuff so that blew up love is contagious
it was the love of Christ it ain't just
some universal love everybody know it's
the love of Christ that sees the best in
everyone the love of Christ that sees
the best in everyone you're talking
about being prophetic look at the valley
of dry bones what do you see I see a
bunch of dry bones I see somebody who I
see a has-been no I see an army I see an
army of people who's a church may have
passed up but God's not done with them
yet I see an army and all I have to do
is prophesy all I have to do is speak
life to these dead bones and watch them
arise come on somebody man come on y'all
don't got me preaching on here that's
all we have to do and I'm doing this on
the podcast I'm doing this in the music
trust me thank you guys for the support
man you guys share in the harvest I'm
telling you the messages I'm getting of
people have given up on life people who
are demonically oppressed but there's
something that they feel like they can
come to me they feel like they can come
to this platform and be open and honest
and even looking at like hey what do you
have to do the first step in recovery is
to admit that you have a problem or
admit that you don't have it all figured
out that's that's the problem we have to
be able to admit that we're not okay
none of us are there's nobody out there
who you know every single ministry that
dog in it's essentially the ones who dog
other ministries I remember like you
know and I talked about this this is
just been in my life we're talking about
cults when I would have brain the ball
drop on my show I had him on I
considered him a friend
had him on and a lot of people a lot of
Christian people they that's where they
draw the line everybody has a place
where they draw um same draw the line
for a lot of people is Kundalini if I
mentioned Kundalini there they've
watched a documentary on the Kundalini
you know what I'm saying and that's
where they draw the line some people
it's speaking in tongues oh you guys
speak in tongues that's where they draw
the line they're done you know and it's
different for each person man but people
seem that I had brain the boss up on
there like you know what if you're gonna
have this guy on your sense of
discernment is out the window like you
you do not you cannot discern what this
guy is doing right and I believed in the
good things coming I believed in the
good that he was doing like I can look
at look at Brandon ball throw up and say
you know what he is helping a lot of
people there's a lot of peas doing a lot
of bad and this said don't think you
know and depending on what level of
perception you know you're walking in
you're gonna see the good and the bad
but it's when your perception changes
and you don't look for the bad you just
look at the good we look at the early
days of the cave ministry doing so much
good were they doing bad stuff he's
little we're learning as we go
Pastor Brian was learning he's open he's
open he's open to talk about that
learning as he goes some things he
believed in some things he preached on
he's had to renege on that shows true
humility that shows true vulnerability
that's where it's at man I was wrong on
this I can't let nobody know I don't
believe that I'm just not gonna speak on
it whatever the case is right no be
opens hey look man I taught some things
I believe some things that uh I'm
ashamed of you know I feel like I
shouldn't have did this ask for
forgiveness whatever the case is man and
see door shut to see doors open in the
spirit you have to it says we have to
confess our sins one to another any time
we try to hold this kind of stuff in
whether it's the offense whether it was
whatever your baggage is man this is why
these demons in these strongholds take
root is when you try to hold it in and
try to hide from from people
to hide it from people and try to hide
it from God essentially look at Adam if
we look at sin in the first sin what the
Adam tried to do he tried to hide his
nakedness from God we have to be naked
before God we have to be open and honest
with people and before God and not hold
anything back and I'm telling you that's
been my key to walking in power that's
been my key to walking in victory is I'm
I can't I can't do this stuff and have
secret hidden sin I won't do it maybe
that's the key maybe it's an integrity
thing where you won't do it not that you
can't do it because people do it every
day
Lauren Hill said every day people lie to
God what make something that they won't
lie to you
if they'll lie to God and try to hide
things from God don't lie to you that's
Lauren Hill that's what it's about just
being open and honest and honest and as
the truth and transparency that's the
truth in saying there's a there's a
grace in saying I don't know you know
what I'm saying I'm big on that's where
I come from it's been so far removed man
but that this is the early days of what
I was doing and and and learning to be
okay with it you know we're told if
we're trying to evangelize people what
are you trying to evangelize me to what
about this what about that what about
this and we have the scriptures we have
to all always be willing and ready to
give our word and kind of stand up for
what we believe in but just making it up
as we go which a lot of people is doing
are doing that's that's not the key
that's not the key the key is just being
transparent and if you don't know say
you don't know you know but if you're
trying to build something you can't
really do that right because they're
gonna go find somebody else who claims
that they have it and that's just that's
just what it comes down to so yeah I
want to give a shout out to everybody
holding us down in the chat there's been
some questions the chats moving kind of
fast here we have a quick shout out to
will star so he says he says uh Lauren
Hill's a singer yeah it's in us in a
song called out that thing every day
people lie to God to what make something
makes you think that they want a lot of
you shout out to will star Chris
home sauce home sauce is gonna be
interviewed on the podcast at the end of
the month so he's he's a patron he's a
supporter he's you know been riding with
us for some months now he's been helping
on Thursday night school of the mystic
we're gonna hear his story coming up in
a few weeks
Danny Guerrero dan I need a book a date
with you man get with me Danny I want to
get you on here too so shout out to
Danny christie Lee christie folks andrew
jackson andrew says we may not have all
the answers right now but seeking them
gross true faith yeah yep seeking
answers being a truth seeker you know
what i'm saying and not be you know if
there's truth there if it's truth is
truth and what i found is a lot of this
truth is universal i believe the bible
is universal i believe in karma
i believe in what jesus said what you
sow you reap in the street we said you
do dirt you get dirt if you do dirt you
get dirty whatever you put out whatever
you put out there you're gonna get it
back the universe is gonna send it back
to you what do we talked about a while
ago with pastor brian whatever you speak
out is gonna come back to you whatever
you do is gonna come back a lot of these
biblical principles are you are
universal law and it and it's not just
for Christians
proverbs it's not just for christians
christians didn't write proverb
christians didn't write the Bible man
and and then even like the New Testament
like Jesus and Paul in those guys they
didn't even have the New Testament if
the King James Version was good enough
for Paul it's good enough for me
no they didn't even have it man all they
had was a baptism and filling of the
Holy Spirit and they're walking it out
being led by the spirit and that's the
same thing we're supposed to be doing
man it is an intimate relationship with
God it's a walk with God a daily walk
with God what we talk about be being
filled just take those few minutes to
get by yourself
get with God and do what the scripture
says to sit in silence to sit in silence
and take just just a few minutes and uh
acknowledge him as being God I'm gonna
read one of these one of these comments
here this is from Christie Lee she says
my son was hit by the Holy Spirit in one
of Brian's tenth services he went from
he went from half out of his mind
cooking dope into sanity that night
public example
Kristy Lee good friend of mine her son
went to a tent revival that Pastor Brian
Jones was speaking at got to fill with
the Holy Spirit why he was cooking dough
running amok doing this thing and the
Holy Spirit filled him changed his life
that evening Danny Guerrero says some of
the early church fathers were real
mystics bro oh yeah that's why that's
why I answered to the term Christian
mystic I'm a Christian I believe in
Jesus you know what I'm saying I believe
in the scriptures but then I'm a mystic
because I believe that that that belief
is a mystical union with Christ and we
are and will be as he is and that's what
it's about every single one of us and
it's empowering it's not about religion
it's about a relationship with a Living
God that created everything like that
phone like matter like everything exists
in him and through him and you can have
an intimate relationship with him with
it with that and it knows you knows your
name knows every knows the number to
every hair on your head that's intimate
man knows you in and out you know we do
a lot of you don't say new ways circles
and stuff and you would like to say
source so we like to say the universe or
whatever and that's cool but it's an
intimate knowing like I don't know if I
can be intimate with the universe I
don't know if the universe cares what
I'm eating for dinner you know I'm
saying but we move into a relationship
with a loving God a father the Holy
Spirit acting as acting as a nurturing
mother to move into a relationship with
that he cares man cares about us knows
us in inside and out it's just like us
were made in His image and likeness and
in the in the likes and desires and the
vulnerability and regret all of that
stuff God has experienced it and if
we're not wrong because we get angry
we're not wrong because we don't know
we're not wrong because we don't have to
figure it out no we're right we're right
in a perfect place that God wants us to
be so he can break us down to reteach us
many of us were taught
many of us were taught things that are
not biblical and we've held them as
ultimate truths and we have to reach
this place where we just give up
everything we thought everything that we
learnt and said look Lord teach me over
again open my heart I've learned some
things I've been judgmental I've been I
thought I had it all figured out there's
some things or some people that I see
you working with you know and I let God
reteach us I think that's the place that
most of us have to eventually come to at
some point the unlearning stage and
getting over cognitive dissonance and
thinking that we have it all figured out
then when truth comes that we don't
agree with or we've never heard and not
not to just be scared or afraid but be
be open to not even open to change you
can believe whatever you want to believe
and it's gonna manifest for you that
worldview is gonna is gonna stay there
whatever you believe is gonna be real to
you that's the power of the conscious
thought that's the power of the spoken
word and if you believe it you'll
receive it we like to talk about the
promises of God are yes and amen we
talked about this a lot on Christy show
whatever you say we talked about this
with Brian
whatever you say with the universe God
is some mirror the scripture Tomasz we
behold the scriptures we're looking into
a mirror whatever we speak it's gonna
come back whatever we put out is coming
back you can't go to a garden and just
stand there start speaking to the soil
come up the trees come up yeah you can
talk to plants it helps them to grow you
can do that but you have to do the work
you're gonna have to go out there to
that stony hard ground and be like a
John the Baptist until up the ground you
got to put in some work you got to take
a seed you got to put it in the ground
you got to cover it up you got to water
it you got to keep water in it once it
starts sprouting you got to cultivate it
that's the the blind man had the vision
so I see men as trees we have to
cultivate it we have to prune we have to
get fruit off of us we have to give
shade to people we give life in
sustenance man this is what it's about
it doesn't just happen overnight man
it's a beautiful walk it's a song and
dance with with the creator of the
universe the creator of our souls who
longs for a relationship maybe that's
unfair unfathomable you've never had
nobody show you time and attention so
now we talk about this God who loves you
and wants to show you some attention
maybe some people can't fathom that that
changed my life
I was depressed I was alone a lot with
my thoughts and with my toys as a kid
you know what I'm saying fantasized
about suicide and things like that
always alone you know and then reached a
certain point when I gave my life to
Christ I would be alone by myself and I
never felt alone I was never alone again
when I felt alone I just start talking
to God he starts talking back with that
still small voice the quickening of the
Holy Spirit dancing and fellowshipping
and being closer than a brother man and
that's the relationship man that's what
it's about
and many of you guys have been there at
some point you want to go back you want
God to be as close to you as it was in
day one you we talked about these early
days of the cave we can't go back there
we can't go back to those early days
they were a beautiful man awesome every
but we we have the maturity and we have
the vision to be able to look back and
see every stage of the cave or every
stage of our life of our spiritual
progress and our spiritual growth and be
okay with each part and it's beautiful
and it's God's using it all to bring us
to the fullness of where he wants us to
be we always look babbling man I wish I
can do that again I wish I can go back
to that we wouldn't want to go back
because it like going back would have to
undo everything that you've learned
along the way and that the wisdom and
the things that you've accumulated along
the way you don't want to undo that you
want to get into a place now where you
you're still walking close with God full
of the anointing full of the Holy Spirit
like pastor brian says evolve you have
to evolve you have to go through stuff
man
what I posted the other day on face
but grow through what you go through you
got to grow through it without going
through that stuff you would not grow
you'd be the same person you have the
same understanding but it's about now
and then in trust me trials and stuff
come to pull us out of the presence of
God and bring us back into our rational
mind and try to figure out things on our
own and stuff like that and I like when
I like with um Andy Mineo said he said
the opposite of faith that's not doubt
the opposite of faith is thinking that I
have it all figured out and that's the
truth and so we go through trials and it
tries to pull us out of the spirit but
fruit goes fruit grows in the valley
fruit doesn't grow on top of the
mountain top the altitude we have it's a
it's a it's a it's a roller coaster it
really is it's not a bad thing it's part
of growing but now you can be in the
season where God wants you coming in and
out of the wilderness we've all been
there coming in and out of the
wilderness but having the wisdom on how
to respond to take those tests again we
got to repeat those tests it's all about
testing men but now we know how to
respond to people so then that's when
judgment and criticism comes we don't
have to lash out we don't even have to
respond I'm telling you man this has
been the story of my life I've been
through it before
I've been through criticism my whole
spiritual walk with Christ has been a
filled with criticism and people saying
watch out for him and me just as a baby
Christian giving my life to Christ being
on fire hey watch out for a young guy
like this is this is nothing new so when
it comes now tribulation it's going to
come it's going to keep coming I'm not
exempt from it the only thing about it
is now I know how to respond or the lack
of some not all of these things are
meant for you to respond to and this
would have been something good that me
and Pastor Brian could have got into
because I wanted to go into Facebook
etiquette
a little bit if you're listening pastor
click that that uh that
link if you want to come back in we can
talk about Facebook etiquette just for a
minute but not everything deserves your
attention not everything deserves your
response that's what it's about man
trust me I've gettin messages and
inboxes and people posted on my wall
you're a devil worshiper you're this am
I supposed to respond to all that like
to each and every one friends turn their
back on you friends come and go
seasons changes they rearrange people
come in and out of your life do we get
heartbroken do we you know it's a
process it hurts it definitely hurts you
know here and you know in the sofa so
funny because I'm going through some of
this stuff and then somebody sends me a
diss song where they dissed me in a song
just the other day how many of you guys
have had a diss track about you how do
we respond to it you know in in the
hip-hop realm
you're supposed to respond they take a
shot at you you take a shot back you go
back and forth people love it people
love controversy controversy sells so do
we respond to it no and I'm not
responding to that and this is part of
it to go so there's a stain comedy and
doing jokes and lashing out at people
it's called punching up you have to
punch up it's bad when you punch down
all right you can't be like you can't
reach a certain level of over standing
not understanding but over standing and
start punching down on people who don't
have it figured out like you do you
don't punch down you don't beat up you
don't throw out the baby with the
bathwater you know what I'm saying
people have not been through the things
I've been through let's just get it
straight you know what I'm saying people
are coming from all walks of life all
points of view all stand points and so
not everything deserves your attention
the person who made the diss track is
the crazy person
we deal with a lot of crazy people out
there
the person who made the diss track it's
about somebody else but they just
mentioned me it's some weird little
segment it's kind of weird but no
there's crazy people like they're all in
my there in my inbox - I get that but
how much do we address maybe I maybe I
went too far already by just talking
about it now cuz I know y'all gonna try
to find it or just distract let me hear
let me hear you see that's what I'm
saying
and then if I did a diss track you guys
would let me see it you ain't seen that
so that's how it works but I'm not gonna
I'm not going to give it life I'm not
going to entertain those type of things
especially if it's punching down if it
was punching up if somebody of high
stature somebody I respect somebody who
has some things figured out rebuked me
or did a diss track about me maybe I
would respond and that's a part of it
you have to choose your battles wisely
guys if not you'd be fighting all the
time look at like Joel um Osteen look at
creflo dollar some of these people that
I've like judged over the years and
talked about them in songs and use
samples and stuff Oprah let's just use
people like that how many how often does
Oprah respond to her criticism there's
stuff all over the internet internet
time I Oprah's the Antichrist she's a
New Ager there's stuff about Billy
Graham being a New Ager and being a
Universalist and do you think Billy
Graham when he was here he goes on
Facebook and looks up dis songs and dis
videos you know how many songs mentioned
Billy Graham in a negative way or Joel
Osteen I come from that Christian
background so trust me that was a thing
where you take shots at people who
disagree with you so there's a bunch of
people do those guys get up and go on
with YouTube and get messages you know
me heretic hunters the heresy hunter
sends those people message they have
people protesting outside of their
churches man this is how real it is but
you have to choose your battles wisely
man
become water like Bruce Lee said become
water my friends that's what you're
supposed to do it home home sauce says
uh check up not down that's right you
got to punch up and I don't they don't
mean that they'll respond you know
as part of it so home sauce whack him
see ya know this person was a crazy
person I'll give you guys just a little
bit of info on that dish it was uh just
so you won't be in the blue cuz you
probably hear about it maybe I don't
know but anyway this person inbox me and
it probably should have went to the law
about it honestly but he beat inbox me
about a certain MC which is a friend of
mine a lady named bliss bliss blind dope
and I have a couple songs with bliss and
this is like over zealous fan bro he
like hit me up and was like he hit me
some weird it was a weird question I'll
go into detail forget it I'll tell you
but I'm not gonna respond to him
he said do you ever dream about bliss
and it's a female rapper do you ever
dream about bliss I said nope not once
and he said oh you probably dream about
your wife
what about Kalki do you dream about
Kalki Kalki is another rapper in that
same vein I was like no I never dreamed
about Kalki so okay bah bah bah bah bah
he's like I'm going after Kalki and
bliss fans and I was gonna come come
against you but but you know I'm saying
you're cool in my book okay thank you
you know I don't even really know this
guy have so many people you know in
boxing try to pick who I entertain and
um but then he was like you know what I
want to bathe in her blood I'm gonna
kill her and her kids and it was like I
do you're done bro you know I get weird
stuff all the time probably should have
went to the law but I'm not that she
date
she's went to the law already so that's
taken care of so far as wisdom is
concerned I said I bro I'm done I
blocked him and then three days later so
my hey there's a diss song with you in
it and it says crazy person it's always
crazy people man crazy people comes with
the territory we can look that's not it
doesn't stop there man
you know there's and it's not going to
stop and I hope that I'm not speaking
that and creating yeah I'm just it's the
crazy people are gonna keep coming no I
understand that it comes with the
territory
I do understand that there's a level of
understanding of of going through stuff
and but there's wisdom on how to how to
deal with with the crazies and the
people who inbox you and I'm supposed to
be your wife true seeker
the Illuminati told me that your wife
isn't your real wife you married the
wrong woman trust me I get that stuff I
do and uh you know what to entertain who
to block who to pray for that kind of
stuff it comes with it and obviously
bliss is going through it now it hurts
her platforms getting to such a level
where people want to lash out and do
weird stuff you know but yeah so yep
don't make it awkward people don't make
it awkward I love it each and every one
of you guys don't make it awkward all
right so yeah man thank you guys for
this episode Christy Lee says as for
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awesome good friends um yep so with that
being said tonight which is this is a
Thursday night whenever you listen to
this if it's not Thursday night when
you're listening Thursday nights we do
the school of the Mystics really excited
about that it's been really good we're
practicing walking out the prophetic
hearing the voice of the holy spirit
speaking to us moving off of intuition
the still small voice what God would say
to our group to individuals we get off
into one-on-ones groups with each other
and we ask God for a word of knowledge
what he would say to that person and and
many people are doing this for the first
time I've been doing this for years some
people are coming into our sessions
doing this for the first time and
they're taking off and it just like
they've been doing it and they've
because many of you guys have been
feeling energies and vibrations your
whole life it's not just Christian
either word of knowledge and things like
that it's Tom ESP extrasensory
perception but we're not gonna go there
that's what we're walking in being able
to pick up when somebody's going through
hardships I've walked into a room one
time and I felt a strong presence or
grieving I wanted to cry I wanted to
weep us what is what is this go around
the corner there's a woman crying
she caught her husband cheating on her
and they're getting divorced she was in
the in this room weeping and as soon as
I walked in a room POW I felt it
this is what we're talking about and
this is what we're moving in this is
what we're learning how to move in an
encounter with God and hear the voice of
God speaking to our hearts and doing
something about it you guys been doing
this since you were a kid you guys been
feeling those feelings since you were
kids and nobody's ever taught you you've
never been in a safe space where you can
practice and that's what we're doing
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