The Stockdale Paradox | Capturing Your Dream | Jazzy Ellis

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Jazzy Ellis is a SAG-AFTRA stunt performer, activist, actor, and healer with stunt and acting roles in over 40 films and TV shows, including Avengers: Infinity War, Luke Cake, NCIS: New Orleans, Under the Dome, The Vampire Diaries, The Walking Dead, and many more. In this episode, I spoke with this amazing and talented woman about her path to success through following the Stockdale Paradox. This paradox is similar in ways to The Secret and the law of attraction. This idea’s namesake is James Stockdale, a man who was a Vice Admiral in the Vietnam war. He ended up becoming a prisoner of war for seven years and as he observed the hopefulness and hopelessness of those around him, he began to take note of how going too far to one extreme or the other causes failure and even death. The Stockdale Paradox is an idea that to be successful you have to KNOW success and your dreams will come, but not put a time limitation on those dreams. You also must face the brutal realities of your current situation without being too optimistic or too hopeless. You have to find that balance and work toward your goals. Jazzy graduated from Princeton University in 2010 and spent time in the Ecuadorian Amazon learning the ways of healing and enlightenment, including having an Ayahuasca experience. She went on to become a school teacher and reiki healer and now pursues her dream of being a stunt performer and actor, but also continues to teach others and share her wisdom with those eager to learn. Jazzy also speaks about spirituality and the role that spirituality plays in having a dream and pulling your dreams into reality. You should devote some time every day to achieving your dreams and goals, even if you only have 10 minutes a day to spend on it, that will get you a little closer every day to a life that you want to create for yourself.


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The Stockdale Paradox | Capturing Your Dream | Jazzy Ellis
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things spiritual spirituality how that
we can capture our dreams how that we
can see that vision that's within us
that's been there ever since we was a
child how can we bring it into
manifestation how can we walk in that
dream life that we see in our dreams
that person that sometimes seemingly
haunts us that it seems so far away but
we want to create it we want to bring it
into the now moment we're gonna talk
about that how to do that I'm doing it
my guest has done it we know about the
law of attraction we know about mental
and spiritual alchemy we're gonna be
talking about something that's even new
to me something called the Stockdale
paradox what is that how do we get into
it so my guest today is jazzy Ellis
we'll jump into that conversation here
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my guest today again jazzy Ellis how are
you my friend can you hear me
I'm great and I'm so happy to hear you
thank you for welcoming me on the show
really cool really cool thank you for
being here just to kind of set the scene
a little bit my wife and daughter went
to mobile con which is like a Comic Con
for Mobile Alabama and so they went to a
panel that you held or you were featured
on and heard your story heard what what
you do some of the the films that you've
worked in some of the acting and the
stunt work and things like that they
went to the panel urges story made you
made mention of the Stockdale paradox
something that was born to my wife at
the time foreign to me as well I know
she went to you and said that you would
make a great guest on the podcast she
came to me and just was head over heels
I can't wait for you to do it you and
she was on me says like you need to get
her as a guest looked into your work
looked into the stunt reel looked into
the act and stuff and I really liked
your story I really like what you bring
to the table and you take spirituality
your start performer actor and activists
and a healer as well so all of that
stuff kind of combining for your alchemy
to bring you where you are to the table
if you want to give a little bit about
your background and what you do that'd
be awesome to kind of get familiar with
the audience
sure so I am a professional stunt
performer for film and TV I am also a
healer I am a Reiki Master and I lead
guided meditations for healing and all
of these I do for myself as well and
that's kind of how I make it from day to
day with my Reiki healing and my guided
meditations but before stuns I was a
high school teacher and I taught math
and special ed and this was actually or
the Stockdale paradox was something that
I taught to my students to get them to
believe in themselves a little more and
that to ensure that they can accomplish
their goals no what was some of the the
shows that you've been you've worked on
you've worked on the water
walking-dead you've done some stuff with
marvel what are some other shows you've
been on or movies the Marvel shows I've
done Avengers infinity wars I was a
jabari warrior on that film I was in
Luke Cage season 2 which comes out is it
today or tomorrow comes out tomorrow on
Netflix
yeah I've been in a few TV shows shots
fired
like you said The Walking Dead NCIS New
Orleans yeah
fun stuff a bunch more than that you've
been busy you've been busy
so from becoming a teacher doing that
and that playing a part of who you are
now you're teaching still right you're
still teaching even as you're doing your
panels in your discussion still kind of
bringing that over still teaching people
to believe in themselves and that they
can fill their dreams so like I said we
heard about the secret we've heard about
the law of attraction mental spiritual
alchemy these type of things
what is the Stockdale paradox in how
does it apply to us so the Stockdale
paradox is that you have to come to
terms with your current situation the
very brutal realities of it no matter
how deep how dark you have to get to
come to terms with where you are right
now that's step 2 step 1 instead of 2 is
understanding that you will accomplish
your goals no matter the one or the how
it's gonna happen so those two parts and
now Stockdale was a prisoner of war and
Vietnam I believe for seven years and he
witnessed his fellow prisoners of war
around him dying for different reasons
whether it was suicide and the people
who committed suicide were dying of
broken hearts because they they were
optimistic too optimistic they set a
time limit on when they would be out so
let's say Christmas is coming up they
would think to themselves Oh Christmas
is here of course we're going to
get out now and then Christmas would
pass and they'd still be in prison and
they'd pass because of a broken heart
and now pessimists they would think oh
I'm never gonna get out and so let's
just end it now and Stockdale he thought
I don't know when I'll get out but I
know I'll be free eventually and so he
just kept the faith he accepted the
brutal realities of the situation that
yes he was a preserved war he had to do
what these captors made him do and then
seven years later he was free and not a
lot of his fellow prisoners made it out
but he did because he kept them he kept
the faith and he understood where he was
at the time very similar to my story
especially using the term prisoner I got
to a place within my journey of my my
profession I was a truck driver for over
ten years and eventually that cab of
that truck started feeling like a cait
like a cage like a prison but man I'm
stuck for you know seventeen hours a day
sometimes operating doing this building
someone else's dream and that's okay if
that's what you want to do with your
life and and you're good with that but
for me I felt like I had some deeper
calling there was things that I knew
that I was supposed to be doing that I
didn't have the time to do it while I
was in that cab I would listen to
podcasts I would listen to inspirational
teachers who are living out their dream
being authentic and every aspect of who
they are and creating the life that they
wanted for themselves and that stuff it
created within me I talked about being
envious like I was envious but in a good
way like if you see somewhat like your
good deeds your lifestyle should be
envious people should look at this you
know what I want what that person wants
but not that to be a hater but to be
envious like you know what I can I'm
gonna live my best life and I'm not
going to I'm not gonna settle until this
vision and dream that I have
comes to light and people get to a place
where it begins to taunt them like you
literally your dreams are taunting you
because they seem so far out of grasp
and I guess like the Stockdale paradox
freedom was taunting him you'll never be
free or you your families forgot about
you and you're gonna die here just like
the person next to you or or is you know
has died and uh it's it's weird I always
relate to stuff back to the scriptures
and as a scripture that says even though
like A Thousand shall fall at my right
ten thousand I left like no harm pretty
much shall come to my dwelling and even
though people are dying all around me
I'm not gonna be a statistic I'm gonna
rise above and if you believe that it's
more than just believing it's more than
just a secret of envisioning it or
speaking it out and creating it that's
part of it but it's I talked about
walking it out building it creating it
you use the term fighting for it you
have to fight for what you believe in
and kind of prove that that's what you
really want it's uh you want to talk a
little bit about fighting for your dream
and fighting for your goal of what that
looks like
definitely so for me that looks like
listing out everything that I don't have
going on right right so in terms of the
Stockdale paradox that would be the
brutal reality of your current situation
so for me before stunts my current
situation was I was a high school
teacher working a hundred twenty hours a
week as a math and special ed teacher I
had a caseload of over forty kids the
state law said I shouldn't have had more
than 25 each of my classrooms was 35
kids state law said I couldn't have more
than I think the special special
education number was 15 at the time so I
was overworked in every way possible and
again I wasn't working towards my dreams
although I'm very happy to have shared
what I had to share with my students it
just wasn't the path that I thought I
would be on at the time so it was coming
to terms with that like okay this is
what I'm doing now now
high school teacher I'm working 120
hours a week for someone else and not
for myself I wasn't taking care of
myself my health was going like I had
lost so much weight because I didn't
have time to eat like so many things
were going wrong and I'm like okay this
is what I don't want my life to be right
now so what what is it that I do want
and how am I going to fight for that so
what I wanted was to be a stunt
performer I know that sounds crazy
because I was I was a high school
teacher I'm like okay I want to do
stunts for a living but I talked to my
principal it's just like hey can I have
a few days off just to go work on this
film set and I'll be back like of course
like thinking about it now it sounded
absolutely in that question but she's
mess she said of course you've been
working crazy hard your numbers are high
your kids are testing high go do it
see how you like it tell me tell me
about it when you get back and I loved
it I fell in love with it and I went
back and I told her how much I loved it
and I was just like I don't know if I
can keep teaching if that's if that's
the path that I feel like I should be on
and she said okay well we'll have a
finish out here and then let's see if we
can transition into that goal and it
worked out that's beautiful and it's
like you said not denying the fact that
it doesn't look possible it looks so far
away it was insane like I started I
started Fogelman loud I was telling a
little bit about wanting to become a
healer and that just looked I don't feel
like or even being doing a podcast what
I'm doing now bringing to the table
there were so many things against me
though I have done shows in the past
every other word was um you know like I
hate listening to myself I still even
don't like to listen to myself but there
was all these things I have to learn how
to speak and then I want to do guided
meditation so how are you gonna do
guided meditations in your rapper and
you sound you know you have broken
English and things like this and how are
you gonna do this or all of these things
it's like there's no way there's no way
but
to have that vision to have that goal in
mind to say you know what this is what I
want and whatever it takes I'm gonna
create it I'm gonna birth it I'm gonna
keep it in my vision I'm gonna speak to
it and create it I know that I'm stuck
in in a truck right now I know that I
have to be tied down to this machine to
just simply keep the lights on and
support a family I've even heard people
say when talking about your dreams and
this is this is something too because
now I don't want to throw the person
under the bus but it's it's somebody
that we both know told a friend of mine
that you had your shot okay now it's
time for your children it's time for you
to invest in your children you may be
tied down to that truck you may be tied
down to that job you had your shot now
you have to prepare your kids for their
shot and it's like that voice in the
background man you know go ahead I'm
sorry everyone has their own life their
own path and I feel like yeah kids and
the family is one goal but everyone has
so many other goals if they want to lean
it in it shouldn't stop just because
they're helping their kids get to their
goals yeah someone said that is it was
very encouraging at and up it was very
discouraging even to hear that because
it comes in like while you're trying to
rationalize with your inner self that
inner child letting that person come
back hey you can live or hey it's time
you know I'm grown now I'm getting older
like I need to you know focus on the
other things and I remember sitting in
my truck crying because that dream was
so like even after I had a flow tank
experience psilocybin encounter I've
been reading The Alchemist all of these
things which are a concoction to push
you over the edge to obtain up obtain
your dreams sit in my truck crying and
waiting on a customer to open I was like
when do you give up on your dream like
if that's true like if that's like if
you're too old like if you're a has-been
like you just got a [Â __Â ] I get do I get
used to this is it done do I'll move on
what age or when do you get
up on your dreams or should you ever do
you go to the grave not and not try you
know what I'm saying where does that
come into play that was facing the
reality of my current situation but
having that vision where does
spirituality come in for you it's and I
think it's pretty much every aspect of
like you said it's part of your
day-to-day life but where does it come
come into getting that picture of our
dream what we're supposed to be doing
this people listening to have no idea
what they're supposed to be doing they
just are on default they wind it up at a
job had been there for years running
into some type of career that they
didn't plan on and they don't know what
to do what a spirituality come into play
with trying to focus on your dream or
you're calling or whatever you want to
call it yeah so like you said
spirituality is part of my everyday life
and it has been for a long time I
actually studied religion in college so
it's something that I I need for a reset
when things aren't going right I just
know okay let me give myself ten minutes
at least
and either meditate on it pray about it
talk to my higher power about it and
just give myself the time to feel it out
I guess but whenever I give myself that
time to myself and to my dreams because
that's what I feel like I feel like when
I'm giving myself time to meditate or to
think about what I want to do I'm giving
my dreams time to come to fruition and
to think about the next steps but that
happens every day every day I give
myself that time and reevaluate my
current situation and see if I'm still
on the right path towards my goals I
don't know when I'll accomplish them and
I don't think that there should be a
time limit on on any of your goals but
as long as I'm working towards it and
when I give myself the time to meditate
on it I'm I'm still on the right path I
feel good about myself but that's where
my spirituality is every in every day
when I give myself that 10 minute
in the morning and at night that's good
and I mean that could change your life I
talked to a friend of mine who watches
the show he he he's giving herself to 15
minutes 15 minute meditation every
morning and that that simply that 15
minutes it's changed his life to become
mindful to get the goals and activities
and kind of go into the East I know we
make this sound spiritual and
whoo-whoo-whoo it is for me that's just
my way of explaining it not everybody
has to I mean people are living out
their dreams and living out and doing
what they were sent here to do without
the help of this type of stuff maybe it
comes into play but by default for them
maybe they are doing things they just
worded differently but for me it's
always been about going into the dream
state through meditation through prayer
and and finding that vision for myself
and finding ways to pull it out of this
imaginary realm this person that exists
in your mind that you want to create and
pulling it out and it's one thing to to
be mindful but it's about remaining
mindful and not letting anything pull
you pull you out of that going back to
when you should give up on your dream
there's a cut it off like the whole away
there's no wind um
I'm 34 uh even in hip-hop it's a young
man's game for the most part they laugh
at has-been rappers or whatever I'm just
now starting to make a lot of noise as
far as people finding out who I am and
and and things like that and just now
I'm 34 years old I'm just now doing what
I was sitting here to do all of it's
been the part of the mission all of it
was used and all of it was I was at the
perfect place at the perfect time none
of it was wasted time I don't I don't
believe in that but a lot of people are
applying these spiritual principles that
you're talking about the you know we
mention all these terms and they're
doing it in their 50s 60s 70s they're
getting this new figure this new
enthusiasm for life and they're going
back at 70 years old and doing what they
always want it to do
their whole life and they're able to
create it and bring it into this
existence so as far as those who feel
like they should give up those who feel
like they should you know just focus on
the kids or whatever the case is what
would you say that is their
encouragement they have to fight for it
what would you say to that so for me as
a daughter I am inspired by my mom who
went back to college in her fifties and
she recently graduated with her master's
degree and nursing and like she didn't
have to she had a great job but she
wanted to learn more for herself and
just me being an adult and looking at my
mom going after her own dreams and like
that's inspiring to me because I'm like
okay when I get to that age I can still
do things that I didn't think I could do
or that I thought time would have run
out for me for like no it's never over
we're still as long as our hearts still
tickin and we want something in life we
can still go after it and I don't I
think it's it's a way to challenge
ourselves to to create new goals for
ourselves and to go after them you
always have to have that vision of
something you want to do you want to
create you always have to have that next
step
there's never like this place of arrival
even once we're here like and I'll tell
you this and maybe you can relate but
that Drive that I had while I was in
that truck that cage it felt like 17
hours a day like I'm wishing like what
if I had 17 hours to work on music but
if I had 17 hours to devote to a podcast
and it ate me alive is like how do I do
that but that it created a drive within
me like that passion is okay i'ma win a
work I'm almost a year into this now I'm
doing this full-time the drive has
changed I'm not in that truck anymore
I'm having to learn how to stay
motivated now that I'm on this side new
a vision that the Bible says that where
there is no vision the people perish
where there is no vision that people
cast off all restraint they just we
gotta have a vision we gotta have that
that next move we have a vision board
like what do we want to do how do we get
to the next level as far as reaching
people once we're there how does that
work for you have you felt that because
like I know the feelings in the mote you
you're not a you're not in the classroom
anymore you're on sets you got all you
got this big list of movies and films
that you've worked on how does that
change and how do you stay motivated or
or do you not have to worry about it
anymore like how does that so the crazy
thing is when I started I was just like
okay in the next five years I'll be
doubling two actresses a year and I'll
be happy
well I reached that goal within two
years and then I was doubling at least
two actresses a month so I mean I
surpassed my goal and then I was just
like okay now what but every time you
have to ask yourself now what you just
need to up the ante a little bit
okay create new goals and so now I'm
upping my stunt skills to to be able to
do new things and I'm working on those
skills every day and I'm still trying to
stay on top of my original goal which is
to double now as many actresses as I can
but I'm moving into writing and
producing so as you accomplish one goal
you just made room for another now how
do you stay on top of those goals is it
something that you that you write them
down I know it's like writing down your
goal to dream your vision they said just
by simply writing it down think you're
80 percent more likely to fulfill or
achieve that goal by just writing it
down doing that it's just a dream it's
just a dream and you're just gonna keep
dreaming it and it's gonna stay a dream
it's never gonna be a goal that you
accomplished you have to write it down
or at least say it to somebody
give yourself some accountability to
make it concrete
for me I spend at least five minutes in
the morning I tried to at night as well
but definitely in the morning I write
down my goals I write down my feeders
because I have to confront those fears
those are my fears are part of my brutal
reality in terms of the Stockdale
paradox so I write down my fears I work
through them like why am i why am I
thinking that about myself or why do I
have doubts in that area and I work
through those and I get to it I get to
my goals just journaling yeah it's so
it's so powerful writing it down
speaking it out creating it there's also
another scripture that says assist it to
get the vision write it down make it
plain like there's precepts to do this
of the ancients did it they created it
they had a vision it's easy to forget
like we would like to just be mindful of
at all times and and and have a to-do
list in your head but when you I'm
telling you when you write it down
you're able to look at it you're able
just envision it and it's not just
something that just trust me man we have
ideas and then three weeks passing like
Mia I had that idea but if you were to
wrote it down on the paper you can
always come back to it you can always
chip away a little bit at it and you can
whatever you want to do we talk about
hard work hard work pays off you have to
do the work you have to take that seed
you have to go to that ground you have
to tilt it until the land the hard the
stony ground whatever it is you got to
cultivate the land you have to plant the
seed you have to water it you have to
you know come back and keep watering it
make sure you get sunlight once it
starts growing come back here and take
the pull the weeds around and you have
to cultivate that dream it's it's it's
precious it's precious and it takes work
yeah I love that analogy my dreams are
my gardens yeah and who are you letting
in your garden if we talked about this
last night on my friend Christy Lee's
podcast like there's people like why
want there in your garden and the fruit
isn't ready to be picked yet like
there's a little too
8'o growing or something and and it's
supposed to be big and ripe to eat and
if you let it grow it's gonna it's gonna
be big it's gonna feel it feed people
and you know this whole garden but
there's people there who are who are
taking you know your fruit before its
time and there's people who are in your
life speaking against your dream all you
can't do that you should've did that ten
years ago you'll never be a speaker
great speaker you'll never do this how
are you gonna motivate people when you
can't motivate yourself there's always
people speaking in trying to take away
from that dream dream killers dream
stealers they're envious if you know
misery loves company these people how do
you identify and have you had to
personally identify with people who were
like toxic like I got to get this person
out of my life there's not that I'm
going to be able to move to the next
level with this person always shaming me
bringing me down and I'm gonna keep me
you know on the same level that they are
like they they're good at certain levels
but literally when you go to another
level man
some people they can't go with you we
would love to bring our crew we'd love
to bring our people who've been there
from day one because what if like if I
eat we all eat my people like not
everyone is ready to go with you yeah
not everyone is ready but also when
people shine or when people dim their
own light to shine negativity on you
it's because they're going through their
own thing or anything that they say
negatively that's what they're dealing
with anything that we're focused on in
life that's what we're going to be
talking about and if we're talking
negatively to other people that's
probably how we talk to ourselves too
and so what I do have negative
associates or friends or even family I
try to acknowledge where that negativity
is coming from and if I can do something
about it I do if what I can do doesn't
help the situation then I do separate
myself because I can't be surrounded by
that when I'm on a different path or a
more positive path I've been to those
dark places and
I'm I don't want to return to them I
don't I will help you come out of those
places but if you don't want to come
with me I can't force you so that's how
I feel about that
yeah getting the negative people out of
your life the toxic people people who
bring you down dealing with them but
then again on the opposite spectrum how
do we find people that compliment what
we're doing how do we find those people
who have the same goals in mind you know
what I'm saying how do we keep those
people or attract those people into our
lives the people who can help us get to
that next level this is something that
you do really well with here with your
podcast and with your music I think by
sharing our message with the world were
automatically going to find the people
that are meant to be with us people are
gonna hear our message and they're going
to latch on to us and those people are
our tribe so for me by by going out and
teaching the world what I have to teach
at different panels or on this podcast
or everything I'm saying today with you
I also say at work like when I get down
time at work and I'm talking to my
co-workers the casting crew of different
sets this is what we're talking about
we're talking about how to achieve more
goals how to bring each other more light
in life and just by sharing your own
personal message and your own personal
story you're gonna find your try now
what about not not those people who are
after the same things that you are and
they want to be a motivational speaker
they want to be a stunt double they want
to be an actor and activist a healer
like there's those people who are with
us trust me like our vibe attracts our
tribe those people are all around us I
have a lot of people who want to do
broadcasting they want to do their own
podcast they they want to be rappers
like everything I'm doing like they see
I do it well and they come to me so
those people are naturally going to come
what about because I'm having a little
trouble but I know
no the trouble is is there to show me
that I need to work on it and if I'm
going to go to the next levels I need
this what about the people in our lives
that we need to to complement our
weaknesses like if I'm surrounded by 50
motivational speakers like that's one
thing what about the people who are able
to do the things that I can't do so and
I'll put this out there and I'm gonna
create this by just even putting it out
there right now just by speaking it I
need two people to help me edit my
podcast down and create snippets from
segments out the podcast I don't have
the time to go back and listen and
reiterate and mix down and like I need
that in my life so I'm putting that out
there anybody listening reach out to me
if you want to help me create snippets
there's that I need help with that um I
can't do it how do we attract those
people into our lives who are able to
compliment our weaknesses like whether
it's a I don't know if you if you're
your own agent or you have an agent who
gets you on jobs and sends out emails
and handles that kind of stuff like
there are people who here to assist us
and help us do things that that we can't
do I have a good friend of mine Christie
Lee she does what I do she's a psychic
healer has her own show he has no idea
how to build a website she has no idea
how to create graphics or even where to
start
video editing promotion I do all that
for her like I'm that person for her in
her business in her her calling but how
do we do that do we just simply speak it
out do we look for it what would you say
that I say step one is realizing that
you need help in whatever area that you
need help in and then you know just
putting out there I do I do think that
when there's people who are better than
us at in a certain area we have to be a
bit more careful about letting them in
because just because they're good in
this area they might not be good in that
area that might be I mean you might have
to set healthy boundaries for yourself
depending on what they're lacking but
that's that's I guess more personal for
me because I I tend to mirror the people
around me
so I have people around me that aren't
working towards similar goals that I am
it's kind of distracting for me yeah so
that's a little caveat about boundaries
but yeah just putting out there is
enough the the universe will answer with
exactly what you need but knowing that
you need it that goes a long way to
right actually knowing that you need it
because everybody wants to be or you
would like to try to do as much as you
can and be the one-stop-shop like I'm
gonna market it I'm gonna promote it I'm
gonna be this and to be awesome if you
could do that but eventually like you're
doing this stuff when you should be
creating your art like a little bit of
it over the years has become my art I've
had to learn how to do everything
I literally record the music through the
album artwork with the promo material
shoot the video edit the video promote
the video and there's like all these
stages I've learned how to do myself but
it'd be super beautiful if I could just
work on the music give it to a team they
promote it like and you have to actually
market yourself we want to try to do it
all but to understand that look I need
to see what my weaknesses are maybe hire
a videographer maybe hire an agent who's
gonna send these emails out for me or
get me on podcasts or getting me on
shows and do this kind of marketing side
for me like those people exist for a
reason right and also when when you're
going from working for for someone else
to working for yourself you're excited
about all the power that you have in the
beginning and then you realize oh I
actually don't want all this power I
actually don't want to do that thing
because that's like a task that takes
all my energy away and so giving up some
of that power and letting someone else
have it you know so that you can work
collectively towards the same goal
there's even more power in that so
giving up control I said that's a big
one for me to get over right yeah I
think I think for everyone who's
out working towards their own personal
goals like giving up control and sharing
power with someone else towards that
same goal like that's a big step but I
think it's something that every human
should try right yeah
I've created this platform with the
podcast and my music
literally by networking and there's
power and numbers there's power and
connecting with people and I've had
guests on who are like have a massive
followings and I'll have them on and
they'll tweet the show out and instantly
I got thousands of views instantly and
now I have people who are able to
resonate with my work because they heard
this you know because I was on their
show or featured on their album or
they're on my album the same way with
with this what we're doing right now
there's people in the comment section
now saying they absolutely adore your
story and adore you they want more info
on you so you know what I'm saying so
that's what it's about networking and
working together and not being afraid to
share the limelight or the platform
that's big for me because I come out of
the Christian industry the Christian the
gospel music and it was always people
who disapprove of your platform and if
there was any flaw if there was anything
they didn't agree with or anything that
that they or even if they thought that
you might take their fanbase in the
Christian industry like they wouldn't
work with you they're that protective
and then I've just kind of what had
helped me have an awakening was to be
able to work with people of other faiths
and people who were who had lack of
faith maybe from Christianity and find
out hey these people like religion
really can be something that binds
people and holds them back is what the
Latin word means religio but to
understand it look networking has done
wonders it's beautiful I've built
everything through that you need you
need people and and you're gonna rely on
people I mean I've watched I watched
some of your reels that would have been
put together you didn't edit those you
know after you've done an acting role or
whatever you relied on that person's
magic when that person's skill set to
edit those clips to the best of their
ability and make you shine right you
relied on that and that's part of it
it's finding those people who can who
can make you shine and being able to but
you made them shine to you creating your
magic working your magic and creating
that scene and all things work together
I think that's why I love film work so
much because I mean yeah you can create
films by yourself but the best films are
made with big budgets and a whole bunch
of people ya know you'll have five
hundred people on a set for three months
and that's like when you when you
consider all these people are working
together towards the same goal it's
beautiful and every everyone has their
certain job mine is usually stunts or
acting but like we're all doing
something that really adds to the
finished product and that feels really
good to work with people yeah my problem
is there cuz I have I've studied it all
and I'm pretty good at it all I want to
have creative control you know in it
maybe maybe to a flaw moving forward
definitely to a flaw moving forward but
it's gotten it's gotten me to where I am
today as far as like I want to shoot the
video and I want to be in the video but
you can't do both right I can't shoot
the video and be a active role in the
video or be the performer in the video
you have to find people you trust but
having that creative eye even with the
music the mixing the mastering I don't I
want to be good I wanna have control
over all my stuff it's it's work to
create a brand and create a beauty that
I've been able to bring to the table but
it's that I'm like obsessive even over
the creative control of my image or my
persona with with the music and videos
and everything that is being pushed out
there
so much so that moving forward it could
be a flaw because there would be no way
that I could open up time for any
anything else like that would just it
takes too much time to shoot a video
edit a video
ba-ba-ba-ba on those people who
compliment and who can help you get to
the next level and free up time so
there's wisdom in that
going back to a capture in the dream
what like for those who are there like
what like what's like practically wood
is wood a step one I know we bring it
break it down to a spiritual level but
to be very practical what do we do
there's people who are still stuck in in
that truck there's people who were in
that office job we listen to testimonies
of people who who were you know working
for fortune 500 companies and making
hundreds of thousands a year but they're
not happy and make you hundreds of
thousands of dollars a year building
somebody else's dream but inwardly they
want to be a Reiki Master they want to
be a healer they want to help humanity
in whatever facet that that is it drives
them crazy you know and a lot of a lot
of things happen spiritual awakenings
near-death experiences ayahuasca journey
so the Simon float tank we talked about
that what like what is something
practical that people can do like what
would you say it would be the first step
for that person step one even before
speaking out your goal because that's an
essential step I would say give yourself
time and just feel fill out your current
situation like pause at work or pause um
and yeah so for me it would be pause and
between classes in my classroom when I
was still teaching for you would be pull
over and just stop and feel how you feel
in your truck if you don't like the
feeling ask yourself why or if you
already know if you already know where
you want to be but you're still there
okay just give it to that skip to the
next step which would be to write down
the goal write it down or tell someone
hold yourself accountable to
actually starting on the path towards
your goal and maybe it'll take a while
before you can completely transition
over to you know full-time working for
yourself but at least you're working
towards it just baby steps everyday if
you need to maybe 20 minutes a day if
that's all you have time for to still
pay your bills and to work towards your
goals and give yourself those 20 minutes
a day to work towards your goal
but yeah step 1 feel it out give
yourself time to really like understand
where you are right now understand how
you feel understand where your intuition
is telling you to go instead of to speak
out your goal tell-tell a friends hell a
family member tell your
accountabilibuddy I like that word
someone to hold you accountable as
you're working towards this goal and
then get to work just get to work now
let me ask you this have you ever felt
any guilt by eating paid making a living
doing what you love to do and I and I
preface that because I come out of
religion and there was a there's a big
thing there of like you should do it for
God you should do this for free that's a
big thing trust me and and weird out
with you're in New Orleans right now
we're in the Bible Belt we deal with
this like big-time I know you should be
doing that for free there's people who
think that I should create my music and
they should be able to download it for
free and I shouldn't make even Jesus
survive off of the donations from his
disciples like come on really
yeah well there's like a lot of people
have to get over that guilt because of
that beating people in their ear like
those people are in our ears man they'd
like but literally they're blogging
about us they're doing it it's insane
and it's because I have a background in
that and I deal with a lot of people
coming out of religion who listen they
just so I deal with and they have to
they have to go through that what would
you say to them to you know who are
dealing with that
I would say there's a reason that God
put us here on this earth and if we're
not working towards our own personal
purpose that he put us here for them
what are we working towards and why are
we making ourselves feel guilty for joy
in the work that God put us here for and
paths change and this that's normal I
feel like life is it a roller coaster so
if you're on a different path than you
thought you would be guess what that's
what God wants for you and I I think
that everyone should be able to make a
working living off of their own dreams
deaths that's the weird thing and I'm
still blown away I'm still blown away
that people because I love creating
music i people pay you for what you love
to do I feel like that should be
everybody's goal like I really didn't
feel like everybody has that ability I
don't feel like you should be a slave
for your wage no matter what or whatever
part point you're at in life and you
shouldn't feel tied down or feel broken
and beat up and like your dreams have
passed you I think that that we all have
the ability to go back now we have to do
the work we have to prove to God the
universe ourselves that we want it and
we're worthy of it we all are worthy of
it but you have to do the groundwork as
much as we'd love to and that's the Dane
because you're a Reiki healer up Reiki
healer Reiki practitioner I do spiritual
work there's a bunch of spiritualist
listening to this right now we help
people it's not man went off on a
tangent about this last night it's not
we don't have a magic wand
bibbidi-bobbidi-boo we're not like we're
like God is not a genie it's not a
magical lamp like that you could just
get your wish and not do the work like
we can give you the principle we can
motivate you spiritually we can teach
you practical I really believe that
they're practical things spiritually
that we can do to be mindful to stay
mindful to get that go to get that
vision to speak out the things that we
want and its power the spiritual power
Justin Sibley
speaking it out speaking to the things
that are not as though they were that's
biblical but it's not we don't have a
magical one I wish we did sometimes I
feel like I did in the past but it's
becoming seemingly more real to me that
this is something that you have to work
for you really do I wish we I wish I can
give you the wisdom and and and it would
be an overnight success it just this
what what I'm doing what you're doing
like it's it's taken years to do this
right it wasn't overnight you just
didn't you know you had those dreams
those visions and stuff and and and you
acted upon them and you have to do that
so would you I mean we don't want to
sell anybody false a hope or false
vision like you have to do the work
right right and I mean part of my
journey is all the failures as well so
yeah there's no false hope like this
journey is not the easiest one that I'm
on but it's one I chose it's one that
I'm working consistently on it's like I
don't know it's hard work yes fail often
and fail big is what others there's like
a good stuff there's a video out there
by um what's his name uh Will Smith
they'll often and fell big and I love
those people who were giving back you
love what you're doing you're giving
back you know what I'm saying like I've
reached it and it's not I'm not trying
to hold it to myself I'm trying to share
it like these are practical ways and you
can create the life that you want for
yourself I love listening to the people
who do that and who bring the spiritual
aspect I listen to like Denzel
Washington Will Smith Oprah a lot of
those people who were like look it's
spiritual but it's practical too and you
have to do both like learning from your
failures is huge like you have to if you
don't learn from the past you're just
gonna recreate it and you're gonna keep
you gonna be stuck in that cycle unless
you learn the lessons that the universe
or God is trying to teach you there but
also learning from the mistakes of
others
right you see other people trying to do
it and they're doing it this way and
it's not working
learn from the successes of others look
this guy he does it when he does it this
way he gets a lot of feedback a lot of
things are working marketing Facebook
the way he's sharing whatever learn from
that take it and make it your own you
know what I'm saying it's working and
that's the beauty of the alchemy of it
all it's using everything to get you to
that that step that next level that you
want to be for your life and it's a it's
for everyone but you have to prove that
you want it I want to hear about your
sensory deprivation tank experience
because I mentioned it before we went
live and you you're in New Orleans right
now and you said your first experience
was at no little slow tanks which I'm
good friends with the owner Spencer uh
Spencer for CA and I've been there
several times and that particular place
has been came up in my story many times
and I'm doing what I'm doing today
because of a float tank encounter with
psilocybin what was your encounter is it
just relaxing you feel really euphoric
and high because you feel like you don't
exist when you're in there and you get
out and you know all the magnesium and
salt in your body it's a beautiful
encounter what was your encounter go on
to the floating shop
so I actually wasn't going for the
spiritual aspect of it although that's
what I found when I was there I was
going more for the healing for the the
Epsom salt part of it since I really
needed a good soak that's that's when I
first got into stunt work and I was just
in a lot of pain hmm and so I did my
first time in was a 30-minute session
and I was like oh this is awesome I was
listening to like Reiki music and just
escaping into the divisions that my mind
created when there was nothing to look
at and nothing to be present for besides
myself so yeah it was like a nice I
don't know I might have even fallen
asleep for part of it but
it was just a an escape into nothingness
almost but my next session I extended
for an hour and that's when I i created
sort of cartoons in my mind of how I
wanted things to go in my life but yeah
it was fun it was cool no a full tank
awesome yeah yeah definitely good people
Spencer over there but um yeah and it's
part of just that being mindful every
time I went like I went in mission
minded like you said you can go there
and you can just relax and have a good
good you know you can get healed like
you I feel euphoric and high when I get
out just because I'll just saw and it
just does wonders for your body really
but would like with spirituality with
anything in life you get what you're
looking for you know what I'm saying I
find that there's a Bible we talk about
this all the time but there's a Bible
verse that says the promises of God are
yes and amen and we talk about whatever
you release to the universe if you God
the universe says yes amen
okay I hate myself I'm stupid yes amen
giving it back to you I'm beautiful
people loved me I'm going to impact
thousands with my with my voice people
are gonna be healed when they hear me
speak people are gonna be inspired when
I speak okay yes creating it for you yes
and amen
that's literally what happens and when
we go into the the astral realms through
meditation through that 15 minutes the
five minutes that you're talking about
we find this time to get available to go
into those those states through the to
meditate meditation through the prayer
through the flow tank experience we get
what we're looking for if we just need
to kind of get that game plan for the
day we need to focus on our breathing
focus on our body and get healing for
ourselves whatever we're looking for
we're gonna find it and that's the
beauty of it and essentially we're
playing a game
I feel like we're like this just life
playing the game called life and there's
rules to it and many of us were put here
and we're just on default and we have no
idea how to play the game
we have no idea like that there's
boundaries and out-of-bounds we don't
know that there's things that we can do
to get ahead or things that we can do to
mess ourselves up we haven't been taught
these things but we understand
stories we look at ancient writings and
stuff and we see these laws and these
principles hermetic principles the law
you know the 48 laws of my heart that
it's all of these beautiful precepts
there to understand is something called
universal law and whatever we put out we
get back whatever we sow will reap be
not deceived whatsoever a man so he also
reap blessings honor praise you know
again III give hats off to everybody who
supports my work but like I have people
who who want to have so they want to do
what I'm doing they want man you got all
these people supporting you blah blah
blah hold on okay
have you ever supported anyone like have
you seen someone on who somebody in need
have you helped that person have you
seen that person could you fulfill a
need that that that person needed and
not getting anything in return have you
been that we're gonna we're gonna
receive that back there's years like you
have teaching children helping children
encouraging them to go after their goals
and their dreams and seemingly you fell
in to yours right it was all part of the
process but whatever we so whatever we
plant if we want if we want opportunity
then we need to give opportunities I've
had all of these prosperity church guys
in the past who have dealt with I love
these people but they have this weird
notion that they're waiting to win the
lottery like literally like they
literally believe that God's gonna bless
them to win the lottery or have this a
creative idea that's gonna get them
Millions and when they get their
Millions they're gonna help the homeless
they're gonna feed the orphans take care
of the widows and all of these things
that Jesus said do
they're waiting to win the lottery to do
this when they have the means to do it
in some type of capacity capacity right
now like you can help somebody in need
right now and if it's in your heart you
can do it and who's the descriptions are
believe they're true when it says that
whoever's faithful with the few I'll
make them ruler over more be faithful
with that teaching job show me you care
about these these children tell me you
care about people show me you're not
gonna squander the money away show me
you're not gonna do this
learn the you know how to appreciate
people learn how to appreciate good
things you know come from nothing
that's the alchemy and I believe that
100% that these principles offer
everyone that we have to learn them
however that comes to you through this
conversation through someone's story
that that you know it's for everyone to
do it was there any books was there any
philosophy or anything like that besides
the Stockdale paradox - no that was big
for you anything else that encouraged
you like it was like a big deal to you
for me it was the alchemists Billis I've
been floating meditation music all of
these everything anything else that was
big for you
I think my my senior thesis in college
was huge because I went to the
Ecuadorian Amazon and studied under two
different shamans who kind of not made
me lose faith and what I believed in but
expanded my my belief system that's all
that's what I'll say they expanded my
belief system and made me see that there
was way more out in the world then I
thought as as an America's a privileged
American going to the Amazon but yeah I
think that experience just opened my
mind to different ways of viewing the
world and I think that's where my path
sort of shifted mm-hmm
did you come in contact with any plant
teachers
anything like that while you were there
in the Amazon I was cleansed with
ayahuasca in the traditional ceremony
under under one of the shamans and yeah
I learned a lot about myself yeah that's
beautiful beautiful man
all of it is the alchemy I really I
really believe it we I don't believe in
last year's and even when we get off a
track you know whether it can happen you
can be walking in your dream walking in
your call and everything's beautiful
you're blown away and then one thing
happened and it was you're like wow what
did I do and then like that that person
seems so far away like me and I was
doing it it can't happen and I was doing
it but we fall off and we have to we
have to find our way back to that and
seemingly do the things that got us
there again and and and do it with the
right motive and right intentions and
stuff and we still get discouraged right
I mean that's still you have to deal
with that we're not exempt we're not
privileged do you know what I'm saying
like it's really practical things and
walking out you're calling and walking
out your dream before we go what would
be something that you would you would
say to that person who feels like giving
up who feels like they don't even know
if they have a dream you know what what
would you say to those people about
recapturing that dream and not giving up
even though it looks like hell around
them it looks like abuse around them it
looks like judgment around them what
would you say to that person to
encourage them I would say you can
always change your situation I've been
in countless awful situations in my life
but I've I always held on to the fact
that that was temporary that's a
temporary situation and that's just
something I needed to learn at the time
it's never the end whether you're going
through something good or something bad
like your situation can always change
and just putting that little effort in
for yourself and not just for money not
just for
not just for what you think of as a good
life but just truly for yourself
listening to yourself being intuitive
like trusting that you know what you
want and listening to yourself you'll
get to where you need to be and don't
put a time limit on it but you'll get to
where you need to be having an attitude
of gratitude I think is is big right in
every level every level and when I was
in that truck like I would pull over
or I would drive and I wouldn't look at
the grass away man I would love to lay
down in that grass but I can't like
you're seeing all these things that you
can't do but you you have to pull
yourself back like I would I would let
it torture me and I think for good
reason a little bit it put something it
lit a fire within me that I could I
don't want to be torture I'm going after
this thing but I would I have to bring
things into perspective and and and and
approach it with gratitude hey
everything because okay I'm here for a
reason
like I've I'm complaining about
something that I prayed for you know
what I'm saying at some point I was at a
worse job right literally I was at very
degrading jobs that's that were part of
my alchemy um I've been there and I've
prayed for a better job I've sought God
for a better job and I got it and this
was a lot better in my truck driving job
that turned into a prison only because I
wasn't support like I'm I was it was
that that level of going to the next
level that transition phase it was it
was coming but we have to have an
attitude of gratitude for everything for
I mean everything our hands our breath
that we have breath that we have life
right now like so many people don't even
have that like people some people's Tom
have been cut short even in recent times
of celebrities in all of these passings
and deaths and suicides and stuff we
have that breath within our lungs to
create the same breath that God breathed
in
to create everything that same Numa the
spirit we have that we have that power
to create so to be thankful for
everything what whatever it is if all
you have is that breath be thankful for
that breath man and to start there with
that attitude of gratitude because it
you're gonna need it you never graduate
from from gratitude man
um jazzy thank you for coming on the
show go ahead and show you links man if
it's social media I know you know you
have a nice Instagram if people want to
follow your work follow you check out
what you do what you have to offer those
type of things go ahead and share your
work where people can can catch up with
you yeah everyone can find me on most
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Ellis that's j AZ zy dll is if you want
to look if you want to see some of the
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find my reels or find links to my
website but at jazzy Ellis yeah that's
that's the new term when you finally
made it may just Google me man
I'm on all but with you what do you
prefer Twitter YouTube Instagram Google
me man I'm on all of it good stuff jazzy
I appreciate this talk thank you so much
for coming on and sharing your story
with the listeners and it's very
encouraging thank you so much I
appreciate you thank you great talking
with you I'm afraid I'll send you this
interview and everything once it's
processed over okay thanks so much
jazzy Ellis ladies and gentlemen great
talk
great talk like I said my wife and
daughter went to a mobile con which is
mobiles Comic Con and they got to sit
she she led a panel speaking about her
story and her experience and it was just
so encouraging to them and she my wife
was like on me get her on the show get
on the show okay I'll check her out no
no you need to do it like set it up I
want to hear it I want you to I want to
hear a story you'll love it and then she
talked about the Stockdale paradox
and talking about how this guy was a
prisoner of war and how he didn't let
his circumstances affect his future he
didn't let his circumstances affect his
outcome and I want to UM and I knew
that's what it was
the Stockdale paradox but for some
reason when I looked it up to title this
show wanted to bring that to the table I
some reason I typed in the Stockholm
Syndrome we have the Stockdale paradox
and the Stockholm Syndrome and it's like
the opposite in its Stockdale in
Stockholm it's two different things but
Stockdale was a prisoner of war he
didn't let his circumstance speak for
his outcome essentially he didn't give
up people around him are dying I'm not
gonna die look that's on y'all that's
what I'm not dying I typed in stop the
Stockholm Syndrome talk home syndromes
like the opposite because it says
Stockholm Syndrome Stockholm Syndrome is
a condition that causes hostages to
develop a psychological alliance with
their captors as a survival strategy
during captivity these feelings
resulting from a bond or in between
captor and captives during an intimate
time spent together they are generally
considered irrational in light of the
danger or risk endured by the victims
it's like identifying with your captor
as a survived
instinct or survival mechanism it's
almost like you look at like the slaves
identifying with the slave master and
just I hate this is what I am I'm just
going to I'm gonna get comfortable to
survive I could do anything to survive
with and this is talking about being a
prisoner and I find it funny because
we're talking about being a prisoner of
war felt like a I literally said that
term I feel like a prisoner in in my
truck I felt like I was in a cage man
know in that mentality people are in
relationships you feel like a prisoner
and how do we get set for you how do we
come out of it how do we obtain the life
that we want for ourselves and I hope
that your you're not just gonna be a
hearer of the word but a doer of the
word and to simply apply these stuff
these steps and the principles to your
life because if you're not you're doing
it wrong I hope that it encourages you I
know that it encourages you I mean I'm
reading the chat I get the end boxes
still get the M boxes I love it thank
you guys for reaching out and telling me
that you love the show and what it's
doing for you it's super encouraging
because I still get the naked negative
stuff and you know I still have to deal
with those demons and deal with those
monsters and whatever form they come I
still deal with them
I'm not exempt you know we still got the
battle depression and fight it and all
of that you never graduate from that
stuff but it becomes a lot more easier
especially if you know your calling and
know what you're supposed to be doing I
spoke about reading this excerpt at the
end of a manly P Hall book and I want to
read this guys this really changed my my
paradigm about who deserves what and
everyone deserves a perfect life I've
interviewed people that says you deserve
a perfect life and I think that you do
I think you do I think you deserve to
have your dreams fulfilled whatever
those dreams are but it takes work and
my paradigm shifted because no matter
how much I want you to walk in your best
life no matter how much I want you to
keep the addiction to go out there and
get that job to create the life that you
want for yourself I want it for you so
much I want it for you so much because
there was a burden there even when I was
at the cusp of my awakening to do what
I'm doing now I would have this I guess
through empathy being super sensitive
like I would get sad to look at my
bosses and my co-workers who were just
like they've been doing this for years
and I had to kind of get over it but I
would look I get sad I blame and like
these people have given up on their
dream like they're just by default you
work at this place and you've been here
for 40 years and I don't think that's us
which that's what you wanted to do when
you're a kid did you want to work for
this company and retire and just you
know live to survive and you're on
default and that in in it would play out
in their emotions and how they treated
people and you could you could tell that
they were not happy where they were but
they were there by the fault but a
beautiful thing is like we talked about
like anybody can do it there's people in
there 50 60 70 s my friend Christie Lee
she's just just turning 50 and she's now
just now like walking in this beautiful
call in this vision that she's had for
herself she's just not doing it you
don't have to be 50 you can you can be
2017 30 34 70 Christie my good friend
she has clients who come to her who want
to do what she's doing they're much
older than her
and she's working with these people in
there taking the risk they're stepping
out in faith and creating the life that
they want for themselves it's possible
it's doable a vision of yourself that
you want
I see Jared in the chat he's talking
about working out talking about in a
minute fasting he's talking about all of
these little things that help you create
that desired life if you have a desired
physique and work towards it I was
talking about my buddy drew Gower when I
talk about the psilocybin when I talk
about the flow tank experience and new
orleans drew gobbler was with me
Alchemist allah sobhan and afloat tank
look change your life as I pursued my
dream and my calling in that little fire
within me to do what I'm doing today
drew Gower was with me it was 400 pounds
and he felt like he was trapped that was
his prison his body became his prison we
had a heart-to-heart um during that uh
Boateng session and in the psilocybin
and we just had a heart-to-heart and was
rude I asked him a question there you
know and it changed his life he wrote
about it in his book he sent me two
rough copy to draft to read and I was in
tears reading this story about me and
how I encouraged him and how you know
just being open with it man and seeing
how all things work together man look
whatever you want you can create it drew
was 400 pounds he's dying he's these
were skinnier than me he's he's under
200 hard work dedication pays off you
fight for what you want we say work you
know you got to work for what you won't
work for your dreams dies he corrected
me and said fight for it others times
were drew he would get up and he
wouldn't want to go to the gym let me
take an off day ordered a movement
called no days off I'm not taking no off
days this is what I want I'm gonna
create it I'm gonna walk in it and he
did that
no days off was the movement and he
didn't take those days off when he
wanted to when he felt like giving up he
said no no days off show up that's big
simply showing up I'm gonna read this
and uh I'm gonna believe that it's going
to change the way that you see things I
hope that this going to light a fire
within you as I read it it's a couple
pages this is the from the book it just
simply called magic by Manley P Hall it
deep does a lot of little small books
and pamphlets and stuff I don't want to
read this I hope it comes across you but
it changed the way that I've seen things
like I do think everybody deserves to
live out their dreams but at the end of
the day if you don't work for it you're
not going to do it no matter how bad I
want it for you no matter how much i
pray for you no matter how much I bless
you no matter how much we try to pray
you out of a situation you have to fight
you have to prove that you want it this
is your alchemy this is your journey the
hero's journey is about you this is your
cross that you have to bear find freedom
I want to read this it's it's a quite
lengthy but I think that uh think that
it'll it got to the very end this is a
good book but the very end is what is
what stood out to me magic by Manley P
Holland it talks about white black and
gray magic and the difference between
them and magic is not always just spells
and enchantments and things like this
your words are magic abracadabra
I bless what I speak you create as you
speak your words are magic so the
intention behind your words is magic
here we go I'm gonna read this and I'm
not the best reader so bear with me
people who use these false systems
vindicate themselves for the most part
on to unsound hypothesis one that God
has intended for a man to have whatever
his puny intellect desires to that man
knows what he needs both of these are
false assumptions that was big on big
for me man was not intended by God to be
rich the prosperity got the gospel you
know what I'm saying man was not
intended by God to be rich wise
beautiful healthy witty of charming
personality or happily married this does
not mean that the Lord has any objection
to any of these things or all of them it
merely means that if man desires these
things he must go forth as Adam was
directed to earning his bread by the
sweat of his brow and not by a sweat of
somebody else's
there's a lot of coattail riders out
there man if they're not look if they're
in that best people in there's people
riding with you in the boat and it's
secretly drilling little holes open that
your float hoping hoping that you'll
sink opening you'll come back to them
and get in their boat the aura of man's
consciousness of cod the aura of man's
consciousness is his dwelling place it
is his feudal castle though he'd be
driven from his home from his world that
is the sanctuary none has a right or
good or ill to enter that sanctuary
other than by the door anymore then one
would have a right to enter another
one's home by the kitchen window the
door of the sanctuary in this case is
the physical world because here all men
have the privilege of knowing their
opponent here I'll have an opportunity
to struggle against the thing that they
do not desire Daz he talked about seeing
your flaws in your fears and where you
end up like those fears exist for a
reason they're not real but they exist
you can learn from them here your
brother has the privilege of rejecting
your proposition or of accepting it if
such be his pleasure he may let you into
his house or keep you out as he may see
fit or hear at least there is one
equality men may say yes or no according
to their moral dictates
and may have the privilege of defending
their integrity with their lives
you may go up to your friend John and
say and here's this hits home for
spiritual listen for healers you may go
up to your friend John and say I wish
you would stop smoking you are not to do
that but you have no right regardless of
how virtuous or altruistic your desire
may be to sneak into the brain of John
an implant there's something which he
cannot combat because he does not know
that it exists any person who does such
a thing assumes the responsibility for
the life that he has led out of its
natural course wouldn't we like to pray
the addiction away wouldn't we lie just
like to pull it off of him the masters
themselves our elder brothers will enter
no man's house unless he has invited
well they Accord all creatures the
privilege of living their own lives this
is your free will if annan cultists were
to break both legs and should ask in
whatever way he knows that one of the
great healers should mend his left leg
the healer would come labor with the leg
and go away even though he knew the
right were broken also he would not
touch it but he has not been given
permission to work upon only one
so you have to have permission and I
think that coming to a healer coming for
prayer coming to God to have something
to be rid of something there's a
consciousness there that lets you know
that there's a problem but you have to
be open before God you have to be open
before your peers to let them know give
them permission and if you don't give me
the permission we can't work on that
spiritually as a healer or the physician
and God is known as the Great Physician
wisdom is given to no man until he asked
for it or in nature every creature is
according to the privilege of the
unfolding of its own destiny guarded and
protected legitimately
by those intelligences placed there by
nature for that purpose those about us
in the world who seek to assume the
lives of others are set aside the law of
the individual completeness always
injured and seldom do good and a force
to your good deeds upon people it's
funny I remember a story back when I was
just really gung-ho young Christian a
buddy of mine back when he had to dial
up like 56k modem if you wanted to
download a song it may take you 5 hours
to download a song and he had Napster
whatever he was downloading all of these
dis music that I thought was ungodly and
I went and I and I said me you shouldn't
be listening to that oh I like it my
body out all these excuses I went in as
a computer and deleted them all and I
thought I was doing a godly service and
he was pissed and he wanted to fight me
after he had videos the videos would
literally take two days to download back
in those days stained corn Marilyn
Manson all this kind of stuff I didn't
help him he would not wanted to and in
my mind I was doing evert a virtuous
assistants in aged and wise Chinese once
set out to visit a distant place he sent
a messenger I had to tell the good folks
of the house
to prepare him no food except rice but
when he had had arrived he found many he
found a mini-course dinner awaiting him
but the good family felt that they must
so honor his presence the philosopher
reproved them saying I asked for rice do
you have given me fish I asked for rice
you've given me corn I asked for rice
you gave me meat I asked for rice and
you have given me sweets and among all
these things you have given me Oh rice
observing that the family was hurt by
the words a philosopher added I have
lived these many years and after
studying carefully this body which God
has given me I have found that it does
flourish nobly upon rice it was with
wisdom that I ordered rice it was with
folly that you insulted me by offering
other foods
you say that I'm a great philosopher
that I am wiser than all other men and
yet you did not think me wise enough to
order my own meal in the same way when
our brothers asked for rice we have no
right to give him meat because we think
he ought to have it it matters not
whether the meat be physical or
spiritual whether the rice be literal or
allegorical no man who is sick should be
healed merely because he is ailing this
deep get this no man who is sick to be
healed merely because he is ailing he
should learn the lessons that accompany
the disease that he has brought upon
himself to affirm health is foolishness
to find out the reason for the ailment
make right the wrong and become healthy
again it's wise and proper to be so
moderate so why so thoughtful as not to
become sick it's still better philosophy
it is black magic of the worst kind to
interfere in any way with the
individuality and mental independence of
any human being if this individual
becomes a menace to society it may
become necessary to incarcerate him but
the good of the community
but this is not in any way interfere
with the conscious fruition of his mind
be if the incident
chose such a one the error of his ways
it as well but whatever the result has
been permitted to remain the maker of
his own destiny and the captain of his
own soul he is at least living his own
life and dying in the way that he
chooses he will
he has been reasoned with has failed he
has been scorned pleadings and prayers
all has been done that man can do net
let no one enter the sanctuary even of
the criminal soul or as his spirit is a
part of God endowed with the inevitable
precognition of choice though the
Vengeance of God will descend upon him
who seeks to steal in and cloud the
brain of the influence and or influence
that divine spark against his own will
many an individual has played havoc with
the laws of nature are not allowing the
individual to fulfill his own destiny
I would I'm giving you the game I'm
giving you the rules it's up to you you
can't say that you didn't know Father
forgive them for they know not what they
do there's grace there but once you
understand there's still grace but you
have to make the choices yourself nobody
can't do it for you bust me no matter
how much I would love to I would love to
do it you have to do this is your
journey man we cannot always tell while
souls come into the world rich or poor
some took some to grow strong and
survive others become weak and succumb
but this we do know that the law of
karma directs these things facing each
life where it will BES facing each life
where it will best learn the lesson
needed for its growth some must learn in
sickness and in pain others in laughter
and joy some must learn to be exalted
others to humble themselves but all are
here to save their souls are the sweat
of their brows to knead the bread of
their own existence even though they
must mix it with their own lifeblood
what man of myopic vision dares to
ordain health for the sick or illness
for the strong who dares to say to the
poor man who dares to say this poor man
should be rich or this man should be
poor does he know the reason for his
coming does he know the virtues and Veit
vices which lying hidden in the past are
invisible because of his present
condition that's good or bad
people love to come to you and say like
you should do this or you should be here
or don't do this and I'll do that you
were you wasn't there you weren't there
in those dark hours of learning in the
dark night of the soul he wasn't there
when this was stolen from me when that
person took that from me
and I had to learn how to cope when that
was taken you weren't there I had to
learn how to survive by the sweat of my
own brow by my own feelings my own
insecurities you weren't there you
haven't heard me you ever heard me in my
prayer closet
you weren't there with me you see this
side of me
I look healed I think everything's fine
everything's going great
someone said uh I talked about this they
said uh and I wish I could sit up and
talk to beautiful women on podcast all
day create it if that's what you want
you can create it whatever it whatever
you think it is but you want you don't
know what this what goes into this
I wished it I wish it was that easy you
don't know what goes in this has been
years in the making
this has been failure this has been
ridicule this has been being open with
your beliefs in your vision has led to
ridicule like I've went through the dark
night by being open and being me like
I've went I've had the judgments of of
my peers and the ridicule and not having
anyone there who believes in you and
everyone hoping you fail and hoping you
learn the error of your ways and come
back to their way of thinking like we've
been there right nobody's been in there
with you in your prayer closet
nobody's listened to the hours and study
in the schooling and everything that you
did to try to build what you're trying
to create nobody's been there man they
ever felt that that pain you did does he
know the reason for the environment
which he dwells of the urge that have
led him to this present state if not he
should be silent don't speak on this
stuff may have you don't if you listen
if you don't know any if you haven't
experienced it don't speak on what
somebody else is going through man do
not speak on it
may this internet is given so many
people platforms to voice their opinion
who shouldn't have one who shouldn't be
able to influence people you're speaking
on things that you have no bearing over
you don't know what these people have
been through I see you know there was a
there was a young man who died as a
rapper xxn tascioni and he talked about
depression he talked about drugs she
talked about a lot of stuff within his
music and there's people who were like
laughing and they're glad he's dead like
my close friends are like laughing at
the memes you have to learn empathy man
that that's a
as somebody's son that's somebody who
had a voice big enough that if they had
compassion and grace given to them maybe
they could have used that platform for
something righteous for something good
people are laughing at the demise of
others and say they deserved it you
don't know what what these people are
going through man you have to be able to
put yourself in somebody else's shoes
man and learn while they're there have
empathy that's what it is you can have
you have sympathy for people but have
empathy put yourselves in their shoes
man
and say if would you like to be the
mother and read a mean that says I'm
glad your son died he was a menace to
society come on man
buy this we do not know mean that the
world should be unsympathetic
unsympathetic or unready to help you you
should be ready to help people you don't
laugh at them and at their demise we do
mean however that the help should be
given and not forced upon the other it
means we should serve each other we
should help each other and we should
love each other but we should never try
to obtain the whip hand over another or
over nature what right as anyone to
believe that man was born into this
world to be happy in the Arabian Nights
it is written happiness must be earned
isn't that deep I thought happiness was
given I thought that God wants us all to
be happy and it's our birthright and
destiny I think it is
but it's earned you have to fight for
what you believe in you have to build it
with the sweat of your own brow a penis
must be earned we are born with a divine
birthright a mind a heart two hands and
two feet there's that gratitude if any
of these be missing at the time of our
parents we have some other function
proportionately
developed to take its place with these
tools we may go forth and earn happiness
we have no right to assume that someone
is going to thrust it upon us we have
come here for the experience as a child
who goes to school we may be happy in
our studies or we may curse them all the
days of our lives we may curse them all
the days of our lives the Y's are happy
and doing the thing that should be done
when we command the universe to make
well the sick or to make rich the poor
we know not where we speak of or in our
zeal and ignorance we may be doing an
irreparable injury to the one we love
like a parent who cannot deny his
children the sweetmeats that they want s
deep deep almost done gas in granting
their desires we endanger both the lie
their lives and the lives of future
efficiency let us rather assist all to
adjust themselves to things as they are
helping to build a more noble destiny
for themselves not trying to give them
something or force something or force
the unknown upon them or rather
assisting all to develop those faculties
which will make them worthy to have the
things which they desire
and that great piece which all the world
is seeking when we asked the infinite
father to give us those blessings which
we lack of the straight straight
straighten the crooked path wherein we
walk let us always add this stipulation
to our endless string of desire let
these things be if they are best for me
if not I will not mind be done Jesus let
us always qualify or will achieve by
such difference to the divine will that
alone does all things well in this we
make safe our course of the procedure
this humility will save us from great
adversity who under the guise of egotism
whisper to us that we are greater than
the infinite time and time again as
Milton said we are hurled blaming from
the ethereal skies when we seek to be
greater than the power which is the
cause of all things learning the
sovereignty of God which is the power
that is the cause of all things all
things on the Bible say that all things
work together for your good
it's the alchemy guys we all want the
good things of life we all desire to be
surrounded by friends but we have no
right to accept to attract any of these
things except when our lives have earned
us the right to be honored respected and
admired the struggle of the modern
competitive ethics is very keen but it
offers to the winner a prize in keeping
with the intensity of the strife the
environment of modder
of modern social conditions was created
by human qualities and temperaments and
man has placed himself therein in order
to learn how to adjust himself its
complications and uncertainties the
victory lies in control in the control
he gains over himself his viewpoint his
tip
man and his inconsistencies man has long
considered happiness to lie and
dominating others or keeping up with the
standards of the Joneses all through the
ages he has driven either to imitate or
control others instead of acquiring
self-control and unfolding the
individuality which makes him different
from all other things and gives him the
power of excelling in something when man
exchanges his daily life of service or
mental shortcuts he excuses his vices
instead of mastering them he is falling
under the influence of black magic it is
a sub to power which caters to the worst
in him
people are eternally trying to walk out
of difficulties instead of trying to
work out of them
the result is always fatal or the
problem evade it must forever be a
problem unmastered the situations in the
circumstances are usually in our life
for a reason the people the friends or
the good or bad my vibe attracts my
tribe like attracts like motivational
speakers attract motivational speakers
people want to do the same things that
you're doing trust me if you're a drug
addict if you love to get high if you
love to just sit around and watch the
clock and get high like you're gonna
attract people who want to do the same
thing
if you're into religion you're gonna
have religious people around you like
whatever you're putting out you're gonna
get back in it that's in the type of
people that you attract to the
circumstances in the situations and
things that we go through many of us
have caused upon ourselves we're in this
for reason we have to understand
universal law we have to understand that
for every action that we do everything
that we do the things that we think the
things that we speak we're shifting
something or moving something we are
creating something with every breath
every breath to suppress that's powering
that when you understand you'll let no
idle word proceed out of your mouth or
yourself and about others condemning
judging looking down upon someone you
won't do that because you know what it's
like to be judged I try not to gossip
I try to be above that why I've had
people gossip about me I've had whole
congregations of churches use me as
examples in their sermons I've had I've
been called out from pulpits just weird
deep stuff and I know how that feels
if you're not ready like that stuff you
telling you [Â __Â ] Steve if that pastors
gossiping about me people all love and
don't even know it people I'm promoting
Baddeley telling people to stay away
from me watch out for me that's hard to
stuff to go through we have to learn we
have to weed those people out we have to
be ready for all of this
we'd like to pray our way out of a
situation we asked for help I do believe
in angelic assistance I believe I
believe that prayer works for communion
with the father
I believe in blessings I believe in
curses I believe that we can make this
this walk a little bit easier I do
believe that there it's a but that I
don't think that's an end although I
think it's a push in the right direction
you know people someone trying to renew
their mind daily someone who is coming
out of wickedness are coming out of dark
stuff of whether it's dark music and you
going around daily and you got dark song
stuck in your head that's phrases over
and over and over and you like me I
shouldn't be thinking about it why am I
keep thinking about these lyrics in
these songs that I haven't listened to
an ages you have to renew your mind like
it's a process of renewal it's not a
one-time thing it's a daily thing
garbage in garbage out it all plays the
role of spiritual alchemy man and it is
about communing with your Creator
it is about communion with God find out
what's got what God wants for you like
get that vision versus just trying to go
off on the whim and create something
don't have a reaction ministry don't
only let the things that you create come
out of reacting to what others say and
what others do create something find out
those things that are that are within
you that you can bring out those
qualities in life the things that have
helped you get to where you are speak
about them find creative ways to express
them with the nations man ask God to use
you speak that creativity over your life
speak that influence out tell somebody
help somebody else on their journey and
when the time comes and you need help
it'll be there when a time comes and you
need support financially and you ask for
it it'll be there be that friend to
those who need a friend it really gets
down to simplistic terms we can
spiritualize it all we want because it
really is spiritual everything that we
do but it really comes down to
simplicity's and not being a jerk being
trying to be a good person creating
peace
in positivity in this world ma'am I
really do believe that I want to say
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that Jared everybody who's doing that
support my work thank you guys um I
believe in prayer I want to pray over
you guys I haven't been praying a lot
over at the end of these shows and I
know there's some people who really look
forward to that so I want to say a
prayer I'm gonna speak a blessing you
that energy the Spirit of God that you
feel the euphoria take that apply it to
whatever hurt so whatever need to
whatever vision you have and use it to
move to the next level whatever it is
this do you for me is not the end goal
it's beautiful it feels good I love the
presence of God I love the Spirit of God
I love that that feeling where you
people can get addicted to that feeling
and you just love the feeling you have
to
apply it you have to do the work the
fruit what is the fruit not just about
the feeling but after the feeling what
happens would you get up off the floor
to get off the carpet what happens make
something of yourselves guys
apply these principles father God I
thank you for your awesome presence your
power I thank you for the Holy Spirit
which is the teacher and leads us
teaches us and guides us into all truth
whatever it is that we're hearing
whatever it is that we're entertaining
that you're trying to speak to us god I
just thank you for the Holy Spirit is
the one who teaches us and allows us to
understand and grasp concepts and leads
us into all truth whatever we're here
for someone listening this long into the
podcast god I thank you that you're
blessed in God that they're looking for
something that they resonate with
something that's here I'm asking you
right now just apply your spirit upon
them give them a fresh touch a fresh
revelation of your love of your grace
god I thank you that you make all things
new and there's people who were into new
movements they're into new ideas and
theologies and philosophies and all
things are new but once we kind of been
in those things for sometimes it becomes
stagnant and the newness wears off god I
thank you that you make all things new
god I'm asking you to just a move and do
that right now God someone who's just
been experiencing grace their whole life
it just comes them in begins to feel
monotonous all things new - grace right
now all things new - your spirit right
now even for me god I thank you that
you're renewing all things God your
presence and your spirit God in Jesus
name touch them heal them motivate them
let them not be victims but victors let
their best days be ahead of them to be
able to grasp and to work with
everything that's been in their life
that surround them used to things that
they have find them faithful with the
few so that you can make them rulers of
a more God we thank you for your
principles would thank you for your love
and your grace in Jesus name
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