TruthSeekahs' New Book Is Here!! Spirit Realm Book Interview With Michael Basham
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Thank You Johnny iron operating out of
Portland Oregon at the trailer park at
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Network and broadcasting from Hawaii in
the mountains and reporting an awesome
interview live with my dear friend truth
Sica who has just released his new book
I just got the email and saw the
invitation and everything looks
beautiful that cover is gorgeous we were
so excited to have this talk it's
actually the first interview I think on
my show I've been on being able to come
on your show before or Derek so this is
great honor and let's let's see if we
can just touch everything in your book
like this we can brother I went on a
yeah oh man I'm doing great I went on an
interview Louella go with a friend of
mine and he's like let's read the
foreword by Jordan Maxwell and then he
started reading the he started reading
the table of contents and you see how
long the tables content and he was
trying to read it like a sentence and it
was very interesting Michael thanks for
hosting me on your platform it's kind of
weird because we are still streaming on
my platform as well so you're like
hosting my show now as well
simultaneously so the more that we have
to we've got to get this word out man
it's it's desperate it's just needed as
Jordan said one of the things he said I
really agree with he's like this is of
it this is a book that needed to be
written so it's very timely yeah the
interesting thing and he talks about it
in the foreword and I need to look it up
but he compares my book to some other
book that was written a long time ago I
had to figure out the name of it but
he's like this book is very similar to a
book that was put out in the 1800s and
that book was revolutionary for its time
in this book it's very similar to that
one like wow I need to figure out what
book that is I haven't looked it up yet
I've just been so busy but you know I
definitely got to go back and look that
up so well what's it like - first of all
you you're doing your show you
interviewing all these people jordan
maxwell i mean my gosh like i remember
listening to him back in 2009 on project
camelot and just his wealth of knowledge
and dealing with the Illuminati and the
occult and aliens and everything and
then going into christian mysticism you
know how do you boil all that down into
a book what is that like and how the
heck did you even have time to do that
while you're doing your full-time shell
well always wanna say this work somebody
is saying that we have reverb let me
know if it's if it's over-the-top reverb
or it's just something little let me
know guys and i'll try to fix it man
just you know what i just sit back in
just the all and wonder of god man you
know and it really just today just being
kind of surreal you know what i'm saying
with this book coming out and just
thinking about you know the jordan
maxwell thing and not even him but just
everything dude just lining up you know
i'm with you like i remember listening
to jordan maxwell stuff and like man i
wish i can talk to him you know and
finding out who he was for the first
time and just being so intrigued by his
stories and his research and his
experience and then now he's he's a
friend you know what i'm saying first of
all he's a friend I can talk to him
whenever I need to he did my freaking
forward and not just him but busy bone
from bone thugs-n-harmony I have another
guy who's like in town and wants to hang
out celebrities and stuff I'm blown dude
I don't deserve this stuff you know what
I'm saying I'm just I'm happy to be here
and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it
I understand manifestation I understand
God I understand what he's capable of I
know that he's looking for people who
can honor him you know what I'm saying
and be trusted with with this type of
material and platform and I just want to
you know make sure that I continue to
give him all the glory and stuff and
it's really weird dude you know like I'm
gonna be hanging out with somebody in a
couple of days so I I was drawing
pictures of this guy when I was in
Middle School and now he's calling me
texting me wanting to hang out you know
what I'm saying it's like these people
I'm just blown of like
where God can take you you know I'm
saying like the people and the doors
that God can open that no man can open
and it's like just being faithful you
know what I'm saying with it and
diligent and being honest and dude it
just all comes back round and God sees
the work that nobody else sees that you
do in the silence and you know there's
plenty of times when we probably should
have you know I'm saying giving up and
people turn their backs on you and you
know make fun of you and call you names
but it's like gods just like man stay
faithful man stay the course don't
falter don't do it don't get off-course
stay consistent I'm leading you and as
long as you do like it comes back in the
end as a reward and it's like again he's
opening up doors that no man can open
I'm just in a place of gratitude even if
all of those awesome things like even if
none of that happens you know like I'm
still in that place of gratitude that's
a place that we live man seated with
Christ and it's the best place to be if
I never experienced another supernatural
encounter if I never talked to a
celebrity if I never have any I have so
much to be thankful for and I'm spoiled
man you know what I'm saying and on many
different levels my family my health my
friends man my finances my job what I
get to wake up and do for a living it's
a dream but it's a dream every day yeah
well now that you have a book you can go
on sid roth it's coming um but seriously
the it's it's very timely
we just lost Henry Gruver the prayer
Walker he just passed away nivel Johnson
passed away about a month or so ago and
my grandmother also recently passed so
these people you know she was doing
bashing his wife reunited now at last
and in heaven but it's like words we're
in the age like where we are supposed to
be catching these Mantle's and I really
am proud to be able to work with you to
share these Mantle's with people and to
just find other people who wants to be a
leader who's you know the whole concept
of spirit force - it's not follow me you
know but it's like
let's get as many people like you Derick
out there to continue to train and
recruit you know people into this giant
spiritual warfare situation and it's not
all warfare but you know you discuss in
your book I guess we'll just go through
some of it easy to get into everything
in here but you don't have to just
whatever stands out ask the Lord and
he'll show you something all of it
something whatever you want ever you
want to talk about I'm cool with it so
we've talked about some of these
subjects before I'm noticing towards the
end Jezebel and that's amazing that
you're tackling the big guns here like
it's good thing you got some friends cuz
this is where you know the enemy comes
after you would start exposing him like
this well I just think as I understand
it now you know what I'm saying Islander
he's always been coming after us like
it's always been there you know that the
path of good and evil and right and
wrong and you know polarity like if you
do something good bad comes back I mean
good comes back if you do something bad
and in the book really addresses that
the whole ecosystem of how that stuff
works in the devil the devil has a role
you got a job to do
that's his day was created to do that
you know and I explored that in the book
and we got a good relationship you know
if I submit myself to God if if every
area of my life is submitted to my
father he can't touch me
he gotta ask permission and if the
father if the father has something that
he's opening up and I need to to learn
or if I'm getting too prideful or you
know my heart is giving in to idolatry
or I'm saying elitism the Lord is gonna
open up doors and allow for those
spirits to come deal with me
treacherously and so I every day I have
to examine myself not just me I'm this
is the universal all of us and the book
explores that and to really get a better
understanding of how these things
operate in our lives and we're not a
victim you know what I'm saying the Most
High he's the bet he knows what he's
doing he's the author and the finisher
of this story I couldn't write a better
story man he did it he even before the
foundations
the earth he wrote my story scripted
inside look this is your job for you to
do stay the course banned but got you
and he's saying that to each one of us
and I'm nobody special you know what I'm
saying it's for all of us it's universal
principles and just sharing what's what
I've learned that's helped me you know
well the fact is you you've decided to
be chosen it says in the Bible you know
that we are chosen but you have to
choose to be chosen and you're one of
those guys that day after day you just
don't give up and you're a good example
so let's get into some of these angels
spirits demons communing with the dead
this sort of stuff that's very
controversial that the church Christians
just don't touch at the ten-foot pole
you know I actually listened to an
interview this morning on earth oddity
kind of a Halloween podcast about a lady
that was married to a pirate ghost she
actually had a formal marriage and then
her health started to deteriorate and
she got a deliverance you know and some
people just and and she said this she
was like the New Agers they just they
they want to sell their books they want
to sell their thing they're not gonna
tell you the dark side then I can tell
you that there's a danger they're just
gonna be like yeah everything's good so
here you are giving people some really
some discernment a lot of discernment
and then this manual really so well just
give us a little preview about the
dealing with just spirits that have
passed on the familiar spirits with with
angels with demons yeah
simple question are they all good can we
trust them all like can we just invite
anything into our life I mean I can you
know this I don't think anything is all
anything and that's the beauty of it
that's the beauty of the ecosystem that
these guys have a job to do the angels
that you know the word angel is it
translates to messenger and again we
have to like get this idea out of our
head that the Archangel Michael looks
like you know the Catholic version that
we've seen this tall beautiful blonde
headed man with a sword and wings that
we think that's what Michael Gabriel
Raphael like all of these angels look
like this and then there's
they're angels maybe the four living
creatures or the Seraphim like the word
angel just translates to messenger and
and you know in and even just the more I
examine myself and in the book and it's
kind of got me just questioning even
what that is I you know what they look
like an appearance like the demons are
angels in a sense as well because the
demons carry a message to the message
hey you better repent or I'm coming for
you God has said if you go back to that
sin I'm coming for you they got a
message you know what I'm saying they
have a role so you know what you get
free from it yeah we're coming back with
seven times greater
Jesus done warned you you didn't listen
okay we're coming back that's their job
and if you do that you're saying you're
opening doors for it for these guys to
come back in they have a message right
and they have a job but if you're
submitted to God again man
everything works together for your good
and even those guys work together for
your good to chastise you the Lord
chastises those in which he loves he
corrects us in the correction is us him
giving us over to the other gods him
giving us over to our idols to say okay
you happy with that that pornography
addiction you cool with that okay I'm
gonna give you over to that yeah we
truly are free to choose anything that
we want that's the scary thing is that
people want to be told what to do they
don't want to have freedom and you're
offering people a lot of freedom with
the amount of different stuff that you
get into that a lot of a lot of it I'm
not even familiar with I have very
little understanding of plant medicine
but I was listening to about how in the
enemy's camp the elites are starting to
use DMT and other things to channel and
get messages from entities and they call
them spirit astronaut astronauts which I
love that psychonaut I want that
Psychonauts you know they're like the
DARPA had these guys go into the spirit
realm using these different different
medications and they all saw the same
thing they would see these these
reptilians or these Reptoids or man toys
and
like why can't Christians do that why do
we have to stay in church and you know
like there's a there's a movement
growing which you and I are both
connected to Gil Hodges and the next
stages they're two going in the spirit
all the time I mean I have so many
groups on Facebook you're like hey you
want to join us we're going on we're
gonna travel now and you know in
clayton's ice cadets and columnspace
guys that's great yeah and I mean so
what what's your take on that like what
can you expect you okay so any any of
these things as you mentioned plant
medicines right and it's a big it's
controversial one it's one that kind of
sets me apart from a lot of different
people but it's again like you know and
I've talked about this like part of me
it was like okay like I'm in like I'm
neck-and-neck with Joyce Meyer right now
for this book like literally I'm about
this book is going on prophesied in this
book is gonna beat out Joyce Meyer
before the night is over and so people
who are behind Joyce Meyers books are
gonna see this book and I talked about
some of this controversial stuff so part
of me is like you know what you are
running in circles with Gil Hodges you
know you are there are a lot of
Christians who want to talk to you in an
interview you now your knowledge is
coming across and uh so let's just kind
of hold back on some of that weird stuff
let's hold back on the alien stuff let's
hold back on the Kundalini talk let's
hold back on the plant medicine because
when they see that they're not gonna
have you come speak and part of me was
like okay let's hold back on it but it's
like no hold on I this is what makes me
who I am or whatever platform that I've
built was because I'm being open and
authentic to talk about this stuff when
the rest of the people wouldn't like I
have I have a bunch of Christian friends
who are into all of this stuff but they
would dare not speak of it because of
the scrutiny that they would get from
their church family their the scrutiny
that they would get from their bosses
the bosses are oh you do plant medicine
really let's go have your drug test it
you know what I'm saying
and so they can't speak about it and
they won't speak about it so I have to
you know what I'm saying so in at that
early on it was like all funny and
fringe and oh you're the Christian who
does plants and all you believe their
plants are alive and all that kind of
stuff but now
I mean you're the Christian who astral
travels this stuff is you were always
part of being fringe is about being a
forerunner man and and stepping out
there early on and you get made fun of
you get laughed at and things like that
but eventually it catches on the pastors
are not you you can have a Baptist
pastor who can headline a sermon about
the Illuminati now and you can have a
Baptist pastor who headlines sermons
about the Kundalini they talk about the
New World Order do you talk about the
Nephilim spirits you remember when this
stuff was just brand new when we were
into this over ten years ago you were
laughed at in scoff deilluminati no such
thing or look at Alex Jones bringing out
the whole sex scandals with you know all
the stuff going on with children and
pedophiles and stuff that's just a
make-believe no it's coming out like the
stuff that we've been talking about for
years and believed then now it's
becoming mainstream knowledge and the
pastors or formulating sermons on it so
it becomes you know accept it but I just
have to be the one to like not let go
because like usually when everyone I
have this weird spirit to where like
I'll put something out and I know I know
that I'm a forerunner and it's friends
but then when everybody flocks to it I'm
like okay I'm done with that on to the
next one right whether it's a band you
find this band that's like amazing and
then they blow up and like okay you can
have that band or football team that
nobody likes and then they get a star
player yeah buddy you learn all that
take that right so I think that's what
it is about a lot of knowledge and
things like that especially being a seer
one who's able to see in the spirit and
see what the Lord's doing man you we get
that it we just can't we can't walk in
the flesh with it we have to just be
obedient with it and understand our
place and not get offended or think that
we own something because all of this
stuff is taken off you know the stuff
we've been talking about for years is
now everyone's talking about it you know
and it's now accepted in in the plant
medicine thing it will be it will be
something just like them just like
marijuana is now in the conversation
before like Christians to smoke pot
because it's legally greedy weed all
that kind of stuff you know so years ago
that was not flying you know so I think
it's the same way with
plant medicine there's a lot of research
of like it what it does for your body
and what it does for your mind and
helping you on a small dose of
psilocybin mushrooms or ayahuasca
encounter whatever the case is there
it's a medicine and medicines aren't to
be abused medicines are for people who
are sick right in this the same way we
talking about medicines that alter your
consciousness when we were teenagers we
would go to the Walmart or whatever and
we would steal big packs of robitussin
gel tabs and we would eat the whole pack
of robitussin gelatin and we would trip
our heads off we would just be so hot so
teach the children here day robitussin
gel it so that's a medicine is for those
who were sick but if you abuse it yeah
it turns into a poison right right and I
think it's the same way if you do the
due diligence in the research you'll see
the you know science is making you know
leaps and bounds when it comes to the
research with plant medicine especially
psilocybin which and so for that I mean
again like would I be like the secret
society like we have the keys we have
the secret but we have them locked away
only for the chosen few and you have to
join my patreon to to get this info no
it's freely freely given man I got like
something that blessed my life pretty
cool stuff in your patreon Bush sure for
sure but um you know just like if it's
something life-changing you want to
share it man like it's just like it
blessed me it helped me and it's helping
so many other people so for me to act
like because the Christians might judge
me or whatever the case is I'm gonna
keep it to myself
that's fascinating yeah I've never used
anything besides like an occasional
cigarette or like I like to in
moderation enjoy a whiskey but I mean
that's just interesting to me I don't
even I can't pass judgment on it because
I just don't know but it does ring true
it's like well why does God have this
well obviously he did there are people
who get drunk and killed people and it's
legal people are allowed to smoke two
packs a day of cigarettes so yeah I mean
I think that you can get high off of the
Spirit of God without anything you know
I think that's that needs to be
emphasized you know but we do have
technologies like why are we allowed to
use phones you know we there are phones
there's artificial intelligence that
maybe we're gonna take that - we're
about to release a meditation about that
some of my friends are doing so yeah
it's like yeah I don't know gets stuck
on one thing and then looking at all the
other topics that you're sharing you
know we're ready to go to Orion we're
ready to go to space we're ready to do
stuff and then everybody is just like
where they get stumbled and you know
this is why I kind of compartmentalize
like I don't talk about everything with
everybody because I want everything but
I noticed with certain people you can
only talk about certain things forcing
you ain't going on I try just found to
force it I'm not gonna try to like
interjected into the conversation or
whatever yeah with the agenda to try to
force people to believe any of this no
you don't have to agree with me you
don't have to agree I could you know
I've been laughed at and scoffed the
majority of my Christendom you know what
I'm saying so it's just nothing new and
and I will tell you I think the majority
of the people who listen and resonate
with anything friends not just me just
the friends they they feel the same way
they're at parties and everybody's
talking about football and they want to
talk about spirit travel they're talking
about you know the race that's coming up
this weekend and they want to talk about
demons and how do we effectively cast
out demons at church gathering that was
me totally you know what I'm saying
let's leave that for Sunday pastor or
speak on it I'm like no he's you know
this is what I live in breeze man you
know and just even early on you're like
he's just too he's just too much
I wasn't forceful with it I'm just I'm
just interested in but you know we've
seen revival happen that way though a
man just being persistent and
just going after God when everyone else
don't really care to and that's you know
that's how revival happens you know
starts with you so Wow yeah it really
does that's what I tell people too is
this all about relationship can would
you agree that the main your main focus
with what you're doing your ministry
your book your show all the media what
drives you and what the goal is is it to
bring people closer to the Lord and and
to just even the New Agers even the
psychics even the astrologers to just
kind of get underground and you know
undercover subverting take in their you
know like like Solid Snake in metal gear
yeah it's funny because yes that is the
goal but I speak about it openly so I'm
like outing myself hi I'm here I'm not
going anywhere you know
yeah and versity did she catch on to you
when you interviewed her did you feel
like she know when she interviewed me it
was very standoffish she interviewed you
at first also okay yeah that interview
was kind of standoffish it she was like
oh you're a preacher you're talking too
fast and she was like because I was just
kept going about you know the Bible and
the Lord it's sure up do you like every
five seconds when she interviewed me on
to her audience but when she came to
mind she I was complimenting her it's
just like oh I just love to be here and
she was well received you know it was
very strange but yeah man
but even hats off to her because yeah
you know yeah I mean yeah I mean I you
know watching her on Jordan Maxwell
those interviews you know changed my
life and blew my mind opened me up to a
lot of new stuff and it I've told myself
manifestation I want to I'm gonna be
interviewed by Kerry Cassidy one day you
know this was in Amman 2010 2009 21 ease
documentaries and how big they were
still at the early ages early stages of
YouTube you know and uh and and fast
forward a couple years you know was
interviewed by her and had her on my
show I've talked to all the the
researchers and it's crazy man to what
the door is that God will open for you
I'm still blown away I could just when I
think about it makes me want to cry
cuz it's so awesome how good god is you
know Wow well I'm I can't say anything
he said Amen brother and and you just
had a baby man how was that let's talk
about that really quick congratulations
brother thank you that's a spiritual
experience in and of itself right oh my
god Wow
and then she was born on Yom Kippur
exactly the moment Yom Kippur was when
she came out when it starts in the that
sunset mm-hmm
yeah it was there there's some crazy
stuff I have in our pastor that married
us that was his anniversary also with
his wife Wow and they came and I
instagrammed all this stuff you can go
to my Instagram guys see your facts and
you can see great pictures like this one
I don't know if you can see that but I
noticed a weird similarity oh my er I
think we might have talked about that
yeah we're gonna get trouble for that
but but yeah I share a lot of my
personal life for better for worse and
just humor you know I can't help it at
some times you gotta laugh otherwise you
wanna cry that's why like that's why I
like coming out with you I'm gonna let
my hair down a little bit and just talk
about the topic our interviews go for
like but like the normal average length
is like two-and-a-half hours three hours
and something three hours yeah so am i
right in because I've known you for a
few years now I'm very very blessed to
have known you since I started
podcasting thanks to Johnny and getting
into this this kind of new realm seeing
like going through guests and doing
interviews and learning and obviously
you're a great artist as well I see
people in the chat saying like what will
music for you man and I'm like dude yeah
I know we need you to make so much more
music but like in your book do you seem
to do you feel like you are summing up
up until now the accumulation of where
you have attained in your mountaintop
kind of
climbing experience in the journey do
you feel like this is almost like a
Captain's Log if you were yeah you know
when I started writing and I was like
you know what I want this to be my you
know I'm saying Magnus open I want it to
be like my I want it to be my secret
teachings of all ages which is a book
about this big it's definitely not that
big but but it could have been like you
said cuz you were talking about like all
the different subjects that I cover and
each subject can be a book in and of
itself and I had to kind of catch myself
I know and I had to talk to people and
get council I talked to Berlin the
Berlin's lighten up wrap it up wrap it
up you know cuz you catch probably five
books you know what I'm saying that I'm
trying to write but I want it that that
book is just an overview it's
essentially it could be a coffee table
book where you pick it up and say know
what I'm going straight to elementals I
want to learn about these spirits I'm
gonna go straight to that part I'm gonna
go straight to UFOs and aliens and so
it's it's not a chapter book where you
have to read at the beginning you can
pick it up and read anywhere and and
that's those are the books of light like
I was really big in the text Mars he put
out a book like that
full of pictures and stuff and you just
flip through it and stop on a picture
and just start reading man and that's
kind of what I wanted to put out and
like each each each subject man could be
a book you know so I gave an overview of
a lot of things and it in I could like
even when I was talking about you know
angelic encounters or mystical
experiences like how much do I put in
there do I put them all well that's a
whole book you know do I save it for
another book I just wanted to kind of
give an overview with this book it is an
overview but if there was a formula to
it the formula is the name of the book
is spirit realm angels demons spirits
and the sovereignty of God to paint a
picture of the ecosystem again of how
the spirit realm operates in us through
us above us below us how it affects us
microscopically on our skin like this
spirit war that's being taking place on
many levels and dimensions right so I
wanted to kind of paint a picture of
that
the sovereignty of God just kind of
showing how God uses all of this stuff
for your good like all of everything
this whole war this battle this
beautiful song and dance is scripted for
your good you are more than a conqueror
you are a victor in all of this to
understand that so you can get some some
clarity and it'll help you walk in
victory by just knowing who you are and
who's you are right understanding that
covering just this whole list of how
they operate naming it as many spirits
that I've encountered or types of
spirits anyway cherubim Seraphim the
malach you know what I'm saying the ref
I aim there's just so many different
ones elementals shades even each each
subject has so much knowledge but just
kind of giving you this overview how
they interact with us and then
spiritually as a son and daughter of the
Most High
how you can tap into your god-given
spiritual abilities and giftings to
interact and how we're entertaining
spirits unaware and we don't even know
it we're being invaded by outside forces
we get around certain people and all of
a sudden we feel scared around a certain
person we get a good vibe I mean you
know those people you hang around and
you just feel good when you're around
them because they got so much of the
presence of God and you can pick that up
just by the way that they live their
life and so how to interact with that
you know I'm saying your spiritual
abilities giftings and I'll relate it
back to ESP extrasensory perception and
I kind of marriage the two of how we are
able to see spirits here spirits the
Spirit of God the spirit of the accuser
the accuser of the Brethren and in Jesus
enter Jackson says my sheep know my
voice and the strangers they will not
follow how to key in on his voice in the
midst of all this so it's an overview
and then how you can practically step in
there and interact in a safe way and how
we're all like we're we're probably all
being contacted and being intercepted
with empathy and intuition and stuff
like that but it's not as you
step out in faith and you ask somebody
hey is there something do you know a man
named Jack I don't even I don't know
where I'm getting this from we see the
psychics doing it there's people in
Christendom who's moving in a profit
very strong so it's a tutorial about how
to sense those spirits in your life and
being able to smell them see them hear
them all of these different ways that
were able to tap into the spirit room so
it's in a sense it is a training manual
teaching people how to be Batman
like every single possible tool yeah a
lot of Christians are like a 1 a 1 gift
show you know and they know everything
about just one thing and that's great
like I love
Ruthie Andrews talking about the
elementals every time she comes one Dan
Duvall I'm like yes I want more of that
and then it encourages me to go into the
spirit and because where we live there's
so much that there's so many weird
Hawaiian ancient spirits and it's fun to
go and to engage with that but scary and
then but I can think back to like okay
well I read in truth seekers book or I
heard one of his interviews where
someone who helps heal people that were
in SRA they found that the elemental
thing is actually they're waiting for
the sons of God to come and dominate
that area you know so it makes me like
really encouraged to get in there and
and take ground and I've lived in Japan
in Taiwan China yeah you know this is
young advanced country principalities
and powers right I know I mean I've had
experience with them I'll say I've made
lots of mistakes but you know Henry
Gruver would be in the prayer walk or in
Japan walking around praying ole or
that's a real thing like walking around
praying being in the spirit it's it's
really good and now with podcasts and
listening to the truth you know you can
be getting so much it's almost like
setting up a force field around you
instead of just sort of
like you can be just in the Word of God
like communicating and communing and
when you listen to Derek when you listen
to some of his guests that he has on a
lot of the people I maybe are more of
like I would say you're taking ground
when you go into some of these these
areas that most persons I mean I don't
have the energy to even try to have the
people that you go after but people need
to find you they need to continue to
support you and I think by buying
they're buying your book this is gonna
be a way to encourage Derek to climb
many more mountains to add even more to
lists of what he's attained and this is
very crucial information that gosh
there's I don't even know where to start
with half of it except all of us are
interested in aliens maybe we can focus
on that for a second the alien thing is
I talked to a person in the Air Force
recently about that and she's like yeah
I looked at the budget for space force
and it's humongous so even join the Air
Force if you want to go space force in
the future learn them learn about some
kind of a skill maybe we're gonna start
going to other planets pretty soon you
know once we take care of the battle
here I believe and I was I was ranting
last night on the show that the Angels
go to the four winds in earth and on in
heaven to bring the people to get
resurrected so that means they might
even be sending angels to catch the
people who are off planet like doing
secret space program stuff what do you
what do you think about that be like
dude ego they're very much like with
actual physical like we're gonna go to
space we're gonna deal with this stuff a
little bit it's their jewel aspect of
that yeah a little bit I have some
friends who claim to be space jumpers
like literally like physically you know
not spirit travelers but they literally
are in secret space programs and been
taking this children Laura Eisenhower
shout-out to her I've even had her on my
podcast Dwight Eisenhower's
granddaughter she even liked and liked
my post for the book thank you
hey yeah so I mean there's people who
have these stories you know and
I don't know if I believe that the
missing time and I was there for 22
years and I came back and I was 6 years
old and like there's some weird far-out
stuff but hey who's to say I don't
really know but uh you know I will say
that you want to uh watch Star Wars
watch the Star Wars series and and it
there's so much spiritual wisdom and
secret space stuff that's you know
they've been knew about this stuff they
didn't just make that up they got that
from somewhere this is something that's
been going on for a very long time and
it just kind of leaking it out to the
public through the movies and through
things like that so what Star Wars has
so many gems about the Angels and
traveling from planet to planet and star
system and I've quoted a lot of that
stuff in my music and when I was going
through my spiritual awakening like that
movie just blew my head off
you know just watching a series because
I really sat down and watched them all
from you know the new ones until the the
older ones would have one - what is it 1
to 6 or something like that and it was
just chock-full of so much stuff that I
was experiencing that I was reading in
the Bible of hearing these other people
talking about on their experiences and
the ce-5 contact initiative you know I'm
saying going out there so that the alien
thing from from like where I approached
it from in the book you know is
definitely an angel thing and I say that
okay you know if you if you're studying
angelology eventually you're gonna be
led to the Book of Enoch and eventually
right you're gonna be led to aliens now
in the Christian realm we know that the
aliens either say aliens they want to
abduct you they're coming to harvest
your semen they want to put babies
inside of you yeah they in the Christian
realm you're gonna hear the fear of
nobody buddy no basis I mean they're
gonna put a baby in you
I'll rebuke that in Jesus name no but
I'm just saying from from the Christian
standpoint you're only gonna hear the
evil alien agenda you're not gonna
you're not gonna hear
I mean let's just be honest the fringe
radio networks site not the website but
the fringe fringe ent fringe
Christianity it's all aliens is all evil
you know oh my god no I'm on to you I
don't think that they're evil I think
that their angelic I think that you know
I think you know what and there's so
much that I left out of the dang book
you know they were chaste they were cast
out of it there's so much in there but
there's no way I could capture at all
like they were cast out of heaven they
were kicked out of the heavens is the
sky the heavens of space they were
forbidden to fly and travel the cosmos
they were kicked out because they
rebelled they're here on the earth Dylan
they are the Fallen Angels but they're
not flying around in spacecraft
they're here in the spirit realm in the
ethers messing with mankind climbing on
men and women when they're sleep messing
with them sexually as Incubus and
succubus they're here the reigning
people drawn wanting him to commit
revelries and murders and things like
that you ain't got to worry about no
demons flying around in the night sky
I'm sorry
I don't believe it and I and I give you
you know some some scriptures and some
reasons why believe that they were
kicked out I we just gotta have we need
to talk about the good and alien so the
good angels that travel and we talk
about ships I don't even think for the
most part I've probably seen some ships
but for the most part what I've seen
these these what we would call ships are
alive like these are entities that are
moving and morphing and flying through
the heavens in their fire and they stop
and they say hello and they communicate
and I covered all of that in the book
man but there's nobody having that
conversation it's all the evil alien
abductions and they put a big pulling
implants out of people and I do go into
that a little bit even though I'm not a
proponent but if anybody is is evil and
traveling the disguise its man you got
to watch out for man they're evil their
hearts are evil wicked and deceitful who
can know it
unless it's been renewed by the presence
of God and so a lot of people who have
these abduction scenarios they're
getting abducted on ships they're waking
up and there's little green men on the
ships but they look in the corner
and there's a man wearing military
garments watching the whole thing take
place yeah so it's the MyLab abductions
military induced abductions which I
believe is was created to push a stereo
within this field so that when you see a
light in the sky traveling and moving
around you you'll run you won't try to
flag it down or wave and say hello or
you know what's Incubus a song Incubus
says I'm you know I signaled them with
my lighter you know I'm saying in fact
there's people who have flashed their
headlights and these things will start
communicating with them through flashing
headlights and the angelic encounters
and stuff but going back to like the war
and everything that's happened in above
us in space for us like what's this
Edgar Cayce believes that the Battle of
Armageddon was gonna be fought in outer
space
so hints your space force but I don't
think that they're bad guys out there I
think that the bad guys are running the
government I think that there's feeding
us fake food I think that they're
feeding us plastic that that's saying
that it's rice I think that they're
feeding us fast food that has wood chips
in it and plastic water bottles that
they're selling us they're taxing us and
arresting us if we're collecting
rainwater in our backyards if we if we
grow a garden in our backyard you can be
arrested and taxed on that food like
these are the these are the bad guys
those guys out there I look above what
does my help come from the chariots of
the Most High when Elijah which was
traveling and they were being it was a
live as a story and second Kings I
believe it is first a second Kings us
it's in the book but they were being
tracked by an army and it was Elijah and
the young man if you look that up your
to find it in the scriptures but it's in
the book and they're being tracked by
this army and the young man wakes up in
the army is all around them and to do
peny we're done we're done
there's an army all the way around us
and he said then Elisha said look don't
freak out for there are more that are
for us than those who are against us
what are you talking about it's me and
you against a whole army of people and
he puts his hand on him and he prays
that God would open the eyes of his
understanding and immediately all
in the hills and in the mountains around
them he's seen chariots as a fire and in
the hills around him and he was able to
see these craft he was able to see these
angelic messengers the word chariot it's
not a horse drawn buggy being pulled by
horses a chariot comes from the Hebrew
word Merkabah or Makabe it means vehicle
and if we know anything about
spirituality in the spirit realm you
know you can is believe you could turn
your body into a merkava or a vehicle of
light by activating your wheels of light
if I locate were traveling traveling in
the spirit so you're bridging like what
we're dealing with you know the
disclosure project Steven Greer and c5
research and the body and mind from my
labs the super-soldier program and
Illuminati stuff and you're saying that
as Christians we can actually somehow
travel in spirit and even in a
militaristic way like I mean God is the
god of battles I know everybody wants to
be peaceful all the time but he is
coming to take back this planet and save
those little babies and dungeons and you
know that's what we're we're fighting to
take I mean we want through the cross it
seems like we're at when when he comes
out there you know when he comes back I
do believe that there there will be a
physical Second Coming and then all of
the nations of the earth will join
together to fight against this threat
from above all the space forces will
come together to fight against Christ in
His angels that are coming back and
we're gonna be caught up into the sky to
fight with them right and and in the
kingdoms of this world this is their
Kingdom Trump these this is their
Kingdom they don't they're not gonna
give this up easily they're not just
gonna hand it over to King Jesus they
take the reigns I'm sorry they're gonna
fight tooth and nail so when I think
but its idea of well let's just use
somebody else let's just use Kim jong-un
would he give it up what you know
understand who any any person in any any
government that you think is not going
to give up the reins to Jesus um can
happen sorry it's like we've all been
there like you've worked with even in
some ministry or some job where
somebody's got a control freak attitude
and it doesn't matter how nice they are
spiritually art it's like when it comes
down to it it's all about power it's all
about control yeah we could we get
big-headed with a look I've been to the
churches with 17 members and these
people don't got people assigned and
tasks and you got a guy I've seen guys
in front of the doors with aks and guns
while the pastor is reading the Bible we
got to watch over the man of God that's
the enemy is out to get him and like
just with these weird like you've got 17
minutes I've been to some weird churches
in the South Road there's a bunch of
them they're side by side I just joined
the children of God for a couple years
that's pretty weird bro I was gonna say
I wanted to mention this because I just
realized you're from mobile we my
grandfather's mentor the mystic mentor
Rufus Moseley all of his history
everything is there in Mobile he's
buried there a gentleman named Gregory
camp who I want to interview wrote a
book about his life and republished a
lot of his articles and I bring this up
because I think where you are is very
special like the fact that you've been
doing this in your specific location
you know nobody thinks about the the
fact that actually your city is a really
spiritually supercharged position that
you have that and you're working with
them you have some amazing community
around you as well it's just amazing but
yeah
Rufus mostly there may have been people
that you're kind of carrying on those
torches you didn't you may not have
known yet but we'll talk about him let's
let's stay on the course with your book
though I don't want to miss a single
moment of it because you talked about
just very specifically like pure topics
here just fear and power
and love as a whole topic elaborate on
on why after all this different stuff
you're just gonna suddenly be able to
just boil it down to something yeah well
so that so so that part at the end of
the book there is kind of just like an
overview of a list it's almost like a a
demonology but for spirits and it we're
just talking about when we say spirits
we're talking about essences feelings
and vibrations that these spirits come
with right and there's a bunch of them
name that these aren't these aren't you
know the crazy demonology stuff by
naming out some of these demons I didn't
really get into too much of that in that
part that part is an overview of kind of
like what the Bible mentions the spirit
of love or the spirit of peace or the
spirit of heaviness the spirit of
whoredom you know all of these different
ones that these are essences that we
walk in they're vibrations that attach
themselves to you and and and that's
there's good ones and positive ones and
negative ones you know and then selling
yourself short
walking in fear fear fear to speak your
truth fear of authority fear of failure
you know what I'm saying in all of these
ways or like we're like kept in bondage
to some of these spirits man and so for
us to just know what they are and get
familiar with with what essence is or a
spirit these spirits are essences they
appeared before God to come out and do
something in the earth and I give many
examples not just the job example which
we all know which Satan and the other
spirits going to and fro and say hey can
I go down and mess with this guy you
know there's many examples in the Bible
and there's many examples where God
allowed these bad spirits again they are
like the spirits of retribution
the law of polarity like you put your
hand to the fire you get burned you know
it's right it has to be some type of
correspondence there and it is the the
the way that God governs the universe
and it all works together
God don't leave his stone and come down
here and chastise you he's got a good
order set up to where you know it kind
of works by itself
you know what I'm saying so right yeah
just keeping things according to his
rules it's not about control it's about
like if you don't listen you know you're
gonna get your hint burn his laws his
law is is beautiful his laws the Bible
says his law is perfect he said this is
perfect he's done is finished he had
this finish before the foundations of
the earth that he knew you know this
whole song and dance with mankind and
how we get to choose we're not we're not
like the Angels we're not forced to
worship and then we're kicked out of
heaven if we just rebelled or whatever
the Kate we get to choose take our own
freewill and say you know what there's a
lot of different things that I can be
doing right now father but I want to
honor you with my breath I want to honor
you with my heart I want to honor you
with my youth and what what you know
same vigor that I have within my bones
and I'm gonna honor you with with what I
listen to with what I entertain all of
that that's worship man that's worship
because we get to choose to come before
him well we could choose so much other
stuff but trust me nothing's worth it it
just comes straight to him spend time
with him and through that amen
you know he I think he orchestrates the
angelic messengers for you to interact
and encounter I really don't know I'm
I've had some interesting encounters but
I don't I don't go straight to an angel
I won't like I've had some crazy
downloads but for the most part I go to
the Father
you know I signed the three-part plumb
lines from a Gil and first one is about
the cross of Yeshua the next one is love
honor and respect everyone and threose
asked the Father and and that's really
what I do when I go in the spirit I say
father whatever you have for me I'm open
whatever it is would you want me to
experience that you would allow me
verses to like go and try to summon
these angels or try to interact with an
elemental I asked to find he's like
sovereign over all that stuff he has the
ability to make them appear hey I said
go up here for true seeker like he has
the ability to just speak the word and
let it be done so if I'm like asking my
father like dad I know you love me right
will you let me see one of those angels
that fly through the night sky the
cherubim I know
have I know they're busy they got stuff
to do but can I see one just for a few
minutes I love you so much you know and
just just like you would a regular
father man and the father loves to bless
they sweep the floor if I showed you I
have to kill you her most most of us
have that view of God he'll never show
me those things you know but he loves to
man Jeremiah 33:3 you know there's the
Lord says come unto me callin to me I
will answer you and show you great and
mighty things which you do not know and
cannot find out and so the mystery
schools and a lot of these other
esoteric and occultism stuff like that
that Simon the sorcerer which I go into
that at the beginning of the book
they're trying to get into these realms
by other means and the only means is
through a life laid down to the Father
through a life of servitude servants
service to others over service to self
making sure that you have everyone's
best interests in your mind versus your
own and as long as you have clean hands
and a pure heart the Lord will allow you
to come and sit upon his hill and sup
with him and he's longing for people to
show this stuff he wants to blow our
minds he wants us to look at the heavens
and open them up he wants us to stare at
the mountains and be able to see these
whatever man to be able to gaze in
nature and see the spirits working and
doing what they would they were created
to do man like he's looking for people
you know so it's not like I'm special
because I've seen the Angels that know
he's looking they were above my head the
whole time and all I had to do was do
this it just looks like I've got a lot
more to tell you guys that you can't
even bear you know any of that stuff and
he said like okay if you believed Moses
you would have believed me for he wrote
at me but if you believe not his
writings how shall ye believe my words
so we have to to remember and spend time
in the word and then expect him to give
us more and then find out all this other
crazy stuff is real like you talk about
fairies and I have a fairy story but I
want to hear and I'll talk briefly you
know this is you gotta know cuz you got
to get the book to hear my fairy story
now
oh I'm joking you believe in fairies or
is that I had an encounter man for sure
I've had an encounter that I that I it
had to be it's something if it was who
knows now where the true seeker fairy is
not real okay Pixies okay let's call
them pictures okay nymphs oh wow there's
a whole variety I don't know they didn't
come to me and say hello we are the
fairies we are the sugarplum life they
didn't do that but I've had mystical
encounters with well what was your
account I'll talk about mom when it's
it's my mother-in-law so I'm gonna
interview her soon she she recently we
sat down for breakfast with my wife and
our little baby Sienna Rose and and she
was like yeah well I never told you this
really but I actually used to see this
little fairy when I was a little girl
and she used to come in my room and and
talk to me and she just described the
whole thing like with so much detail
like physical detail interacting with
the environment communicating with her
and just like this has been my best
friend and the old and she had this it's
like what and like like she wants to she
knew she could share with me because I
wouldn't judge her like a lot of our
church friends he's like no they're not
going to be able to handle that oh don't
be like le Marzulli like this is the
devil Emma we need to stop the giants of
Genesis six no no you toxin but but
we're both very similar in that we'd
like to know what's real and if there's
good fairies I'd like to know about that
I think we can test the spirits as it
says in the Bible but what if there were
ways to invite a little bit more of that
kind of an encounter into your life to
experience things not that you have to
be seeking it all the time but if you
made space for it which I haven't been
making that much space for stuff but my
own personal experience recently my wife
told me she had a very vivid dream that
there was this the spaceship that was
alive that I had been training and it
was like it had the face of a dog but it
was a cigar-shaped kind of a boat shaped
thing and we were sending it out
mission and I had trained it and it
suddenly flew up into the sky really
fast and then all these other birds and
and flying animals like joined it and we
were kind of sad like oh he's going to
do the mission that we trained him to do
and she told me the jury was like you
were had a vision of a dog spaceship I'm
like no she's like you were so close to
it it was like your best friend and you
were so sad that it was going on like I
guess we're doing stuff but we just
don't know what we're doing in the
spirit you know our flesh just can't
handle it so that's where you know yes
it's simple coming to the spirit with
God relationship with God but then read
through the Seekers book spirit realm
learn about angels demons and all these
different things that I still think it's
so trippy that Jordan Maxwell wrote the
intro because that's just beautiful that
shows that's really symbolic dude that
was like seven word he brought like
seven pages or something
you know that guy I just we've all been
praying for him like even Kerry Cassidy
seemed to be right we hope right no we
don't have any hope so I think you have
really blessed him as in a way like as a
spiritual son kind of to bring him to
see that there is hope you know the next
generation is carrying my work cares
about what I've done and even as I'm
passing on the torch you know I know
there that it's a good guy so you know
that's that's just proof that he seven
pages is just amazing oh yeah and we
won't try it right now but where do you
want to go next like where do you feel
this is also going to lead since this
book you obviously have so much to share
so much to say people need to read it
you know can we expect a sequel is there
gonna be more in this journey or do you
think God is all done with true Sica huh
well as far as like writing another book
or whatever the case is there's
definitely going to be other books I
mean even the whole section at the end
of the book is is about how to operate
in the spirit and how
- you know find out your spiritual
abilities and to work and flow in the
quickening of the spirit to work and
flow in the world of knowledge where
there is some word of faith and things
like that that God has given us and how
to discern it and so a part of me is
just like wanting to take that and kind
of maybe make it a course and kind of go
into even more detail that's 15 pages
you know what I'm saying at the end I
really went in on that and it was fun I
love that subject I love seeing people
tap into that for the first time that's
one of the most beautiful things we do
on the School of the Mystics when we get
enough people in the atmosphere is just
right we break down into groups and we
practice prophesying over one another
and to see somebody for the first time
I've never done it but they've bit but
it's been with them their whole life and
they've never been in a safe environment
where they can practice prophesying or
asking the Holy Spirit what would you
say to to this brother and just kind of
listening and how the imagination works
and how God speaks finding that out for
themselves and stepping in it it's
beautiful so we do that on the school of
the Mystics and I just I want to I
definitely want to turn that into like a
bigger more evolved course and I'm
working with some people on that so
that's probably something that's gonna
be an offshoot sprang out of the book
but I have some other courses and stuff
I'm really ready to kick this thing into
overdrive and work with some individuals
under my wing and and really help them
manifest this stuff and bring it into
fruition just like I did and I want to
help some people helping a lot of people
like just the work that's being done
right and it's so it's so much I don't
know if I would get the accolades I
don't know if I need to but I can see
the fruit of the labor right when people
are listening they're getting fed up at
their job I don't want to be stuck here
the rest of my life and then they're
just moving out of the comfort zone and
they're hearing me encouraging them you
know chase that dream whatever God has
given you man you can do it and this is
how I did it and giving them steps and
practical ways so that's really my
desire is to people is for to see people
walk in they're calling like how you
called to be a healer and a prophet in a
poet in a singer but you're stuck you
know changing tires for you know 60 55
hours a week
you don't feel like singing when you get
home you look like prophesied which
stuck down so there's like practical
ways and things that we can do using the
Internet and singing our song and people
resonate with it and just teaching
people moving past those blocks because
there's all these ungodly beliefs and
reasons why we don't deserve to be
wealthier reasons why am i you know my
dad struggled and I just I'm just like
him and you know just weird ungodly
beliefs that we have what about people
that refuse to change tires or wash
dishes but there's a spiritual that you
need to follow them we talked about this
the other day like me shoutout to Steven
the voice kook he was talking about this
and how you know you just got to hunker
down
you got responsibilities it's not just
you anymore you've got kids I do know
rappers who won't won't go to work they
want a rapper and they they can't pay
their bills and they won't get a job and
stuff in for a season you got to stay
there you know you got I don't believe
in just quitting your job to just and if
I wouldn't have been let go from my job
I'd probably still be thinking I
wouldn't have just quit and say I'm
gonna be a podcaster things were where a
guy had to push me out there man which
you were driving trucks
yeah mm-hmm which is it great I mean to
be honest like if I'm gonna pay the
bills here in Hawaii I'm probably gonna
end up doing ooh BRR or Amazon like
there's a bunch of really cool driving
jobs out there yeah and then I can like
I can go live you know in between
customers and I can wash dishes just for
an extra 50 bucks hey with a dishwasher
died or something could you like - it's
the help they're all like about the
diets so sad here no way but I'm like
you know what I'll stay I'll stick
around and watch dishes at the
restaurant and then I get my little
Amazon
and I pulled that I pull out a book and
like your book and then I'll just put it
on my bluetooth and I'm just in there
like into the glory just wash the dishes
learning about something cool and making
money for it and ya know I'm not all of
that in fact I think that washing dishes
itself is a blessed thing well do you
know whether here's the thing though
there's a lot of people with it they're
content with that like I got I know I
have friends who love taking cars apart
like that's what that's what gets them
going I got a guy who if you got a
broken lawnmower he'll fix it for free
and he'll spend all evening working just
loves engines and how engines work and
stuff you know what I'm saying so for me
to be like oh you're changing engines
and you could be a podcast that's my
calling you know if you got to find your
call and what does God put within you
you know what I'm saying and recapture
that there's people who love changing
tires they they love bagging groceries
man so to really try to force our dreams
upon them it's a disservice and I I
think I had to learn that because I
would just be I was so empathic and so
sensitive that I was like oh all these
people you know just packing groceries
man that my heart would break for them
you know because I could see people were
they giving up on their dream you know
but it's not everybody some people are
right where they're supposed to be I
think we're all right where we're
supposed to be let me get that straight
I think that we're all your changing
tires whatever job you're on you may fit
you may be weary in well-doing
but maybe that job is a is an answer to
prayer and that was my thing I was like
god I'm tired of this job man tired of
these people I'm tired of my dreams
taunting me he's like look this was a
but you prayed for this you asked for
this and I gave it to you remember what
you were doing you know what I was doing
before I was driving I was driving
another truck but I was cleaning toilets
I would I was I would go to work and
clean am portables I'd go to weddings
and clean their toilets and have the
truck in the truck stunk and you know it
was a very Stewart
it was disgusting Bo oh I was disgusting
but but it was an answer to prayer it
was you know just seeing the levels of
okay you're doing this
you're looking at Joseph in the
scriptures with Joseph like okay right
now you and you and the dungeon now you
down here with the rats and the doodoo
and the feces it's all in the dungeon
you down here with this stuff but if you
stay consistent and you keep working it
like I'm gonna use you you know you're
gonna cross the Pharaoh and he's got a
turkey he's got a dream that nobody can
interpret I want you to enjoy this dream
for him I'm gonna give you the
revelation and I'm gonna open up this
door for you be be faith will be
consistent
don't complain what if he was on that
complaining man I'm tired of this I'm
tired of this man able to hold on what
kind of who you serve but they looked at
him in a new light look this is the one
who I said they said all the spirits of
all the gods dwell within this guy he
has all the knowledge of all the books
he knows at all he was he was patient
man and he waited for his opportunity
when he was to step before Pharaoh and
interpret his dream is hold on I need
you up here with me
you you're smarter you got more wisdom
than what are these imbeciles doing with
me let me pull you out of the dungeon
let me let me put it let me put it put
some clothes on you let me let me give
you something good to eat right because
he didn't he didn't grow weary in
well-doing man he understood that God
what God was training him in those pits
and in the dungeons and no matter where
you are you're right where you're
supposed to be opportunity will come you
can toil and toil all day and try to
connect dots and try to get new jobs and
started to try to start a career and
start a podcast but if a man builds the
house his labor is in vain unless the
Lord builds it you got to get with the
father and say okay Lord let me see your
hand in this whatever you're doing I
don't want to be here but I'm thankful I
got a attitude of gratitude you see I
know it's a blessing and just wait for
that opportunity because he gives it to
every man he's not a respecter of
persons and he's not a man that he
should lie it's equal opportunity and
the Lord is just willing to work with
each and every one of us man well it
just it brings me a lot of peace to hear
you say that too about I mean because
you're you're reaching for the stars
brother you really are you're going
right to the core of the Bible you know
you're going for every
and and don't let anybody look down upon
you as far as being a younger guy being
a cool guy really doing things that
usually people only do when they're like
old and you know like not that young man
you're looking dude younger than me man
I'm 36
you're like 24 or something anyway I
like 24 awesome it was awesome to see
like not that wow you know he's not
gonna make it whatever he's doing but it
was like how's he gonna keep this up
like I think about how hard it is to do
what you did those jobs and now you're
bringing all of that energy into
full-time serving the kingdom what
you're doing you're doing a great job
you're really talented you understand
technology very well now you've written
a book you're an incredible artist
musician songwriter filmmaker you know
and you're you bring people together to
that music video yeah where you have a
lot of your friends a lot of singing
that is so cool like that is something
else morning it's the my dad's a
professional musician and he would tell
you this like there's certain people
that are really good at their instrument
but they're not good at connecting with
the audience
but when you listen to them they're like
the best violinists or the best pianist
but then there's these musicians that
that might not be as good but they're
like really good at connecting with the
people and you're as good as they come I
mean your skill skill wise but you're
also able to connect with the people and
bring them together and you know when
you're in a room with an artist like
that it's just like yeah you know and
and that's what you're doing every day
you're reaching out to people you're
connecting with them and somehow you
have time to go to the spirit we've
interviewed Amanda Perez who is in some
of your groups and she's like I'm about
to upload an ascension that she sent me
she's like going they're tackling huge
things I can tell that she's trained
with obi-wan he's got some real skills I
believe the same about the other people
that go into your
dear classes so and I would go to if I
had time I've been like invited to gills
I would go on yours I could barely keep
up with the information at this point
with what's going on and do the show and
be a dad and work in Hawaii no I mean
I'm with you man like I spend a lot of
time talking about this stuff and
creating it and doing the podcast and
writing the book that I have to make
time to to go to go in to study for
myself you know and and it's very
important it's very crucial you know
that we do that and we you know hard
work good and hard work fun man but you
got to first make sure that you take
care of yourself and take care of your
spirit and take care of your head so
well I was watching a hobbit last night
and just tripping out just like this is
spirit like this is literally spear we
had it on our biggest screen downloaded
like an HD version and you're watching
it The Hobbit the first part of three
and it's like there's a scene where
Saruman is having a meeting and
Galadriel is standing there and ESP
psychically communicating with Gandalf
they're totally like ignoring whatever
boob stuff was like you brought the you
brought the sword of such-and-such and
then he like brings out it unveils it
you have some stuff here about magical
blessed objects magical staffs like I'm
looking at this and like this is Lord of
the Rings stuff right here psychic
abilities like what is that I mean
notice that he doesn't about the world
what about that scene in Lord of the
Rings where the king was possessed with
the spirit and he was just like running
amuck and he was depressed and he was
had a spirit on him and you go to him
and and he was he who was vex by which
and then Gandalf comes to him is like
come out of him and the spirit leaves
him and he comes back to his countenance
and stuff I mean there's so much stuff
within the movies especially Lord of the
Rings and going back against her like I
mean so many of them but star wars Lord
of the Rings I mean I wasn't a Star Trek
fan but I'm sure there's a bunch that
you have seen
in there and I got some intro I've got
some friends who are like just they're
like diehard you know and they yeah they
see all the allegory in that The Matrix
everyone sees the allegory and the
matrix right in the spiritual dimensions
and we're really asleep but there's a
real world within a world and then
there's synchronicities and glitches in
the matrix to say hey there's rules to
this engagement let's learn the rules
the rules of universal law I think I
think just I think his word and his
Scripture is the the universal laws as
well but there's a way there's ways for
us as sons and daughters to engage when
one thing that that that's very
inspiring one thing you remind me of is
like in the family and the children of
God they had spirit beings and specific
demons that you would rebuke and angels
that you could call on and talk with and
channel and I mean yeah it was pretty
insane and it wasn't it was not as like
amazing as it sounds it was it was in us
in a way it was kind of treated almost
as a rote exercise which was very
disappointing but I wanted all of it I
was like Holly I don't to learn more
about this I don't know more about that
and I noticed among the people that had
been in there for too long they there
was a weariness there was a sense of
like wait no this is too much
information I can't keep up with all the
prophecies all the visions and all these
another angel what no I don't want to
you know and I looked at that I was like
I can never become that I can never
allow myself to grow weary with
revelation like I always want to be
hungry for more and if you do that you
will be good ground to watch the the
sequel's of the matrix that they're
about to release the new Star Wars
that's not made by Disney that's like
horrible garbage but like the actual
timeline of Star Wars Star Trek Lord of
the Rings The Matrix every cool movie
it's like liberating anything like whoa
this is all real this is all what we're
doing like when I talk to you and I
talked to a few other people that I
loved talking with and Johnny who's
Hosting this again Thank You Johnny he's
sitting I know he wants to interject so
many times I know he's probably talking
right now we just can't hear him sanity
you oh by the way you guys need a listen
to Johnny's new show on the French Radio
Network it's hilarious it's called
biscuit reviews with flaky layers
Charles of the mind renewed funny it's
just a review of anything that's
reviewable and I'm gonna spoil the
future things on that we're gonna do
like reviews on reviews like there's
truly have review reviews of just random
things like people have actually
reviewed prisons but you gotta just love
me Johnny is such an antidote to all
this spiritual reality uh sorry
religiosity in these spiritual circles
that sometimes creeps up listen to
Johnny iron it's like the best medicine
for all of us anyway yeah biscuit
reviews check it out it's on the French
Way of network.com okay I just said
million of things I'm sorry but yeah
just bringing it down like when I was
watching Lord of the Rings I was like oh
my gosh this is our life oh my gosh this
is so cool this is what I joined the
family back in the day to learn all the
truth and to learn how to engage with
angels but you have to have faith God
isn't gonna just show you everything
sometimes you'll see an angel I saw one
two days ago I was lying down we just
brought the baby home we were exhausted
you know seven days in the hospital
three days of labor you know we were
tired and I'm just like lying there on
the couch and I just instantly fell
asleep and I'm like dreaming and and the
door was wide open you know you don't
leave your door open in Hawaii like my
wife is there with the baby sleeping and
I start to wake up like slowly and I'm I
noticed there's a presence there's a
person in the doorway standing there and
I'm like trying to like see it and I'm
trying to wake up and and the last thing
I remember I woke up and before I was
completely awake but you know that place
in between I saw that area that zone and
it was like
these two circles at the base of it were
intertwining with each other like it was
some sort of a technology and there was
a and I instantly was like oh my gosh
guardian angel you know cool my
daughter's got a cool guardian angel and
he's already doing his job he's like
making sure he's standing there at the
door making sure nothing you know
bothers us that doesn't happen every day
but I have seen things like that and you
should look for them and I bet you if
you listen truth seeker you're probably
gonna see stuff especially if you buy
his book just let everybody do that let
the Lord use you just go down there in
the description and just click that link
let the Lord use you know I mean guys
let's put the link in all the chats
right now make sure you see on Facebook
we're on YouTube we're on all of that
stuff look just do it man spirit realm
so yeah the book just came out today I'm
super excited you know we're going into
a lot of the contents thereof it's on
Facebook if you're watching on Facebook
if you're watching on YouTube it's there
in the description as well but yeah man
this is just it's so funny too because
I'm just interested cuz like a lot of
people in the community they've probably
heard me talk about a lot of this stuff
because this stuff that you're not
talked about on the podcast but it's
like it's focused and it's a little bit
more contained to where it's all thought
out and I didn't miss as much as I could
have missed missed or whatever so but
man it's uh it's putting it all out
there you know I'll put it in there
didn't didn't hold back so there was
nothing that I said maybe not maybe I
shouldn't no it's in there put it all in
there and let the chips fall where they
may again and it looks like I'm
competing with in the ranks for what's
her name Joyce Meyer and that would be a
blessing to beat Joyce Meyer in the
spiritual warfare category Joyce Meyer
but but you know just a huge blessing
and thank you to everybody who's already
purchased it
because it's debuted number one new
release and Christian angelology and
demonology we've we've hit the number
one new release and man that's so
awesome I'm thankful for everybody who
believes in my work and who supported
and spends their hard-earned money to to
allow me to continue doing what I'm
doing and continue bringing this content
out I really couldn't have done it
without the help of my patreon
supporters and everybody who just had my
back for a couple years now just rocking
with me man people's been there since
day one and just man they've just put
their money where their mouth is and
they really believe in the work and they
they've stuck around you know and as
much as I thought that this book would
be something easy to write it's taken a
lot of work a lot of effort and I told
myself that I was just gonna because
I've been I've been working on it for a
year but it's been off and on right when
I started working on I was getting up at
like 4:30 every morning I'd spend 2 or 3
hours on it every morning I was getting
up but that took a toll on me eventually
so then I just kind of drifting off of
it and so when stuff would come to me
when I get inspired I'd write to it been
visiting it for about a year but I gave
myself is like you know what I'm gonna
devote a whole week I don't have any
podcast lined up and I'm gonna I'm gonna
miss a week of podcasting and everyday
I'm just gonna devote it to this book
and go ahead and finish it up so I gave
myself a week that week turned into two
months of just grinding and trying to
get this stuff out of me and then trying
to you know process the book and get it
in the right format and taking do the
cover and just all of the weird stuff
that goes into it I had people there
like look I'll do it for you $1500
oh no sir we got this let me do it the
Lord blessed me to be able to do
something this stuff so I couldn't have
done it without the patreon supporters
there's no way how much time and effort
and energy has been went into this book
so I just want to say again a huge thank
you every time to everybody partnering
with me and and the vision that God's
given me via patreon you guys rock man
patreon gosh like I've been blessed
through that so many times and you know
and I always say look if you can't if
you're you know just trying to barely
cover the rent you know don't don't give
me your money but at least what you can
do is share the link with all your
friends you can take a link yeah like
the ones the link to this book and this
interview and you can put it in facebook
on messenger on your phone and you can
hit select all to every facebook friend
and send them the message every we can
do that that doesn't cost you anything
oh you can every you can message
everybody the link messenger on Facebook
allows you to take a link look I'll do
it right now
and show me because everybody's about to
get my book link right to their inbox
dude totally I mean you can bezel on the
computer or just the phone I think you
have to do it on the phone well you know
what maybe I'm wrong let me try the
computer here okay let's try it on a
computer because this is something that
you guys can do we're not trying to do
this like spam everybody but I'm sorry
you're getting spam this is the time to
buy the book you know yeah the least you
can do is is just send it to everybody
yeah if you can't buy it if you can't
buy it and you're listening to this as
it airs October the 16th and you're
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will send you the money to buy it like
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buy it and you're listening to this
right now if you don't have a job if
you're you can't you know you don't you
just don't have extra hit me up we'll
send you a copy tonight
tonight only not on the replay not on
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and you're not able to afford it message
me
email me get to me tonight and we'll
send it to you I will send you the money
so that you can order it and leave a
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how to send everybody but I mean okay
the very least you can do is go push
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send send send send send sense and it
don't it just takes a second look I'm
doing right now okay Lea message me
there will be a kindle edition it's kind
of being uploaded now but if you want
okay if you want the kindle edition or
at least a PDF I had a buddy of mine who
was waiting for the PDF I said look
bother ya Bob by the physical edition
and I'll go ahead and send you the PDF
like instantly to your phone where you
have it now to read it on your phone or
iPad or computer I mean so just let me
know if that's what you want we'll do
that I'm working on I'm getting into
audible - I want to start
I bought this Kindle to learn about how
to use audiobooks with a book like you
write a book and then you have an audio
like what and you've inspired me
actually with your guided meditation
yeah you know the presents I thought
that was so cool so and then I saw this
Netflix called Bandersnatch where you
get to choose your own adventure through
the movie and except it's like evil so I
was a man if it wasn't if it was only
something like that was about heaven
that had cool sound effects and
interesting manuals and you get to pick
at the end so I started this whole thing
and it's free it's on it's on spirit
wars Mediacom it's just sittin right
there but but we've got pretty far in it
but I realized like nobody's gonna
listen to this if it's for free like I
actually need to publish it on Amazon
and we I took time recording and putting
sound effects yours you were the
inspiration though dude like it was like
I wouldn't turn this I am last night
dude I was asked to come to a group of
people who are going through a a and I
was a group of men and they're there by
court appoint a court appointed to go to
these AAA classes and my buddies an
even-steven the voice cooked hit me up
and say hey
we're talking about spirituality like
this week staying is spirituality and
I'd love to have you come and maybe do a
meditation so I ended up getting a
comment it was it was beautiful man I
was able to speak to the guys and and I
knew that it was resonating with them
man just the words I can feel it just
kind of cutting through and just giving
them hope and stuff you know I it's so I
have to make myself not cry when I do
even early on just talking about the
goodness of God I just like Jeremiah
wasn't weeping prophet I was like don't
do it man when I just get in I'm gonna
tap into the father's heart and it just
really resonates you know and even last
night was like that I just had to kind
of make my who's just stranger just
weeping over them you know trying to
have a conversation so anyway I got this
and I we did a short guided meditation I
just kind of got them relaxed and
everything and then I played the
throne-room meditation and they turned
the lights down and they all went in and
did the throne-room meditation man he's
got none of them were like really
spiritual they went around the table and
like I used to go to church that's about
it you know and kind of gave their story
and where they were spiritually and some
of them have never meditated and to do a
meditation like that and have never have
been into it and some of them got rocked
man it was just a beautiful beautiful
encounter last night so I was blessed to
be a part of that Thank You Stephen for
that bro Thank You Stephen
yeah just whatever you get inspired to
do just do it man and you're gonna
inspire other people to do something
you're a trendsetter and we need to
protect you too because I've noticed
with like Jordan Peterson you know I was
just going on a little Jack about him a
few days ago and it's like he's in rehab
right now but you know you know he's
I believe he's so inspired he's so
brilliant and and that kind of
instrumentation that he is that that he
carries is very delicate you know and if
there was only like an army of people
around Jordan Peterson to make sure he's
like getting enough rest and but I mean
he's and maybe this is the Lord you know
that he's gonna really meet the Lord at
this time because he hasn't really met
the Lord yet so we're praying for him
but but you know I'm glad that there's
you've got the next Agers you know Gil
and Berlin and
the kingdom talks crew and and there's
just such a community of people that
that love you that wanna that want to
watch your back and continuing in your
you are a spearheading force
trailblazing or icebreaker and then when
you discover these different areas
you're gonna also inspire other people
to to do things and to grow in new areas
so just keep going with it man don't
don't doubt yourself keep opening up new
portals and you know we're gonna see
drill pretty cool things happen brother
sure man the cat the capstone of the
book is talk about all these spirits and
aliens and all this really cool stuff
and but the capstone is Jesus man you
know he is the cornerstone and and I
just talk about you know how none of
those experiences huh no matter how
beautiful they are to compare with the
majesty of beauty and splendor of King
Jesus and how he bids us all to come and
have a beautiful encounter with him and
it wouldn't it be kind of like a slap in
the face to like I know we can hang out
with Jesus but I'd rather go hang out
with the Angels
you know I rather go hang out with the
elementals you know what I'm saying but
it's like how about Jesus will you show
me them those ask the father go through
him he is the gate
I wouldn't say go to any of these don't
do nothing without that you don't see
the father doing and eventually you
learned that you learned the father's
heart and you see just as Jesus did what
the father was only what he saw the
father doing you learn and that's how to
treat people that's how to walk in the
spirit that's how to operate in the
ethers and you learn that and it's
through fellowship with Christ and so
the end of the book I'd go into it's not
a long chapter but the splendor majesty
of Jesus and an encounter with him and I
go into a very mystical experience that
I had with with Christ and how he
appeared to me in the spirit and really
rocked my world so all of that stuff's
in there too and I just kind of end with
that well it's it's gonna just be like
starting a new entire universe I've
I've got it write a book man you're
gonna inspire I've already seen people
commenting they're like I want to write
a book now you're gonna start something
dude yeah dudes like creativity bro and
like when you operating and who God's
called you to be and you inspire people
like that was just the biggest thing
it's like pulling that creativity out of
people and I'm just paying it forward I
mean there was just beautiful songs and
artists and bands and things that I've
heard over the years that pulled it out
of me you know what I'm saying and has
taken taken me on journeys and opened me
up to higher realms of understanding and
put secrets in their music or put
secrets in their interviews on my hey
you're speaking my language now right so
oh isn't it so now I can do that like
what the heck it's so it's so crazy to
be able to pay that forward you know and
be able to be that soundtrack for
somebody spiritual awakening with the
music or with the podcasts or with the
teachings or whatever man it's just so
it's such an honor this walk that God
has blessed me with are you seeing a
cult weird secrets hidden in your book
spirit yeah for sure there's there's
hidden mysteries this hidden knowledge
that I revealed you know it's not a
secret anymore it's not a cult anymore
cause it's not hidden the word occult
means to hide with this Jordan Maxwell
say see my hand
now my hand is in a cult because my hand
is hidden this isn't that it's the
Spanish word for hidden Latin the occult
something means to hide something and
and what is hidden in the dark shall be
brought to the light Jesus I believe
Jesus shared a cult knowledge knowledge
that only a few people could understand
its esoteric what are you talking about
you want us to eat your flesh and drink
your blood oh I'm done with this guy
this is a cannibal group and they left
he's like what are you you don't get it
and he looks at it aside man blessed are
you guys cuz you I was joking
you notice I wasn't beard for real you
know and uh you know again I have
greater things to show you but you
you're not ready for it and and and you
know it's just it's a cult just means
hidden
it's nothing demonic or satanic or
whatever and if it's brought to the
light it's not hidden any
or so well it's paving the way to go
into more deeper revelations mysteries
going into the universe finding out
about well this space is a cult they
they've been does people have been
beyond the moon that's pretty much
hands-down understood by most that are
aware and the reason they're not telling
us is there's so much a cult there's so
much weird spiritual stuff out there in
space no no it turns out it's not the
final frontier the final frontier is
this spirit it's your spirit it's inside
of you already you know that's the weird
paradox so that's where you actually
you're like jumping in that realm all
the time so one more reason to by spirit
realm
angel Stevens and the sovereignty of God
well it's an honor to interview you
finally and now that you have your book
you are welcome to come on spirit wars
mish Bo ha no seriously you can't go on
supernatural unless you have a book so
now you're a notice I'm going on I'm
gonna compromise on right now I will be
on it's supernatural and I will be on
KOAT even bigger than that I'm going on
coast to coast am let's prophesy that I
manifested Kerry Cassidy I'm once on her
show I manifested talking to Bizzy Bone
my favorite rapper I'm manifested
getting them to meet my favorite one of
my favorite celebrities who was texting
me in a band and you know them so I'm
not gonna say his name right now I'll
show you pictures when we hang out but
I'm blown away man I manifest it and
it's not just me I'm not saying I'm
doing it you guys can do it
don't just watch me I hope I move you to
jealousy I hope you see my beautiful
book and you just get jealous but I hope
that is a righteous jealous man I hope
that emanates you know I hope that it
moves you to do something so you know
what I could knock I write a book and
you do it with clean hands and a pure
heart but you get up off your butt
because we have the same three four
hours in a day when I am Telling You
when I was pumping toilets I'm writing
songs
well some pops in my head I'm writing it
down when I was driving I'd pull over I
do interviews they call me for an
interview I'm taking my lunch break on
an interview with a national radio show
you know what I'm saying
I'm you got to get it in we all have the
same 24 hours in a day or you just yeah
you got your foot in the door man come
on man nobody nobody gave us a shot we
opened the door for ourselves man we've
seen what the Lord was doing and in he
and followed him and all of these things
this book the Lord spoke to my heart he
said this book is a key the book is a
key that's all it is and it's gonna open
and unlock doors and realms and
dimensions that I've never been able to
step into and the the book is just gonna
be a key to open that the book is gonna
be a key to coast-to-coast the book is
gonna be a key into a larger audience of
people who need what we're doing it's
not just me they're gonna find out who
you are they're gonna find out who Gil
is we're a family man we're people we're
friends man we are in this together it's
not about me and and we have to
understand that at once we do we find
out that we are the body of Christ and
nobody not even the gates of hell shall
be able to prevail against it cuz that's
who we are you might even find your wife
through these these communities or your
husband I think you're setting up a
community his wallet just by doing this
I mean I'm looking at the chat and I
just I'm just giggling Amanda and Tracy
bless you there's all these encouraging
sweet messages you guys are my favorite
people like this community this is my
tribe right here at these people the
weirdos I know for a fact just from and
I haven't even met you physically or any
of almost anybody but but I've whenever
I do it's like you know it's just the
same it's like I already knew them for
so long and then I'm finally meeting
like a relative we have camaraderie with
single men especially those who are in
the Lord and in the spirit and yes I'll
live rent like I've let a lot of random
people just come and stay with us and
sleep on our couch and sleep on the air
mattress and I have never
them but they've but but in the spirit I
know them by the spirit the Bible says
to know them that labor amongst you you
know if you're sticking around man like
if you we kind of give you a way out
you don't say I try it like I almost try
to make people leave oh yeah what about
this
you're still gonna love me after I tell
you that I do this you're still gonna
love me that when you find out that I'm
on my human and I'm not superhuman
special you know what I'm saying that I
am annoying it but I'm a regular guy you
know I'm saying they try to kill that
facade and like a lot of times people
leave because they're looking for a
superhero they're looking to follow
somebody no we follow Christ you follow
me as I follow Christ that example
that's it and guess what I want to
follow your example let's interview
Amanda let's interview Sonny let's
interview these people and see how their
walk with the Lord is I'm interested in
it all and we have to be able to learn
from everybody because they have
something that that to bring to the
table that we don't have and we have to
be a teacher you have to have a
teachable spirit I'll never learn and
sit under anybody arrogant and pompous
and feel like they have it all figured
out no yeah you may have these other
people fooled but you don't have me
fooled you can for what is that you can
you can you can fool some people
sometimes but you can't fool all the
people all the times you can't I can see
through it I'm not gonna do it you know
and I and I hope that people can
resonate with that and I hope that they
see it you got to get out of celebrity
Christianity you got to quit following
men the Bible says cursed is the man
that trusteth in man you're gonna be
cursed you follow a man and end up in a
ditch we follow the Spirit of God it's
always moving and we move in unity as
the Spirit gives unction and just when
we do that it's beautiful it's a
beautiful song and dance of how this
thing works and honoring people for who
they are how deep they are or how man I
love it all they see come you know
people come to say well I can't see in
the spirit like you well maybe not
supposed to what can you do yeah you
know what I'm saying what what can you
bring to the table and everybody's
gifting and they have we learned from
everybody bro and I'm even talking about
some of these unbelievers and stuff like
I'm learning from them okay with I'm
Lord and learning from
you just mentioned them uh Jordan
Peterson well I see some I comment on
your post to say well he's into allegory
and thinks that the Bible isn't you need
to study the Bible allegory you're
trying to get another like there's like
seven different revelations for each
scripture in by dog gonnit allegory is
definitely one of them and how that
relate and in allegory simply how that
relates to you in your life how it plays
through as a story as a story within a
story that's really telling your story
yes and yes again I mean just that
moment of looking at Galadriel and
Gandalf discussing a wholly supercharged
item and you're like man I always wish I
could live in that kind of a world and
it's like wait a second every time I go
on a livestream with my brother or even
if I just go solo or participate in
someone else's livestream it's like
suddenly there's Tracy mija Lackey
putting all the emojis crazy-cool that I
mean if you've ever listened to Tracy's
stories about interacting with entities
from other realms like oh my gosh
message me Tracy I have not heard her
stories I want to hear him message me
you have got to hear Tracy and Internet
he's not vertical well are we still live
yeah okay good yeah we've got to
interview her Amanda's got some crazy
cool things and marathon there's just
the list of cool people and but just
instead of being like oh how are we
gonna handle all these people it's like
don't worry the Lord's got it
just enjoy it you're in middle-earth
this is this spirit or you know Star
Trek seekers of the truth kingdom age
tripperz people that are like all eating
up everything Ian Clayton's got you know
then they're like wow I want more of
this and then they're like then they
find they find us and we're out here
every day putting out content for free
the least you can do is by spear realm
angels demon spirits the sovereignity of
God go in our canal and there's a song
you know share the links if you can't
buy it but please buy it and
and get in touch beyond the chats you
know share the transfer talk to get to
know other people and and then I
recommend people start to do it
themselves too you know don't wait for
us to interview you start putting out
your stories yeah you looking for
someone get a cosine you know yeah I'm
cosign you [Â __Â ] you'll find out them
cosines ain't nothing like some people
say well you just need the right person
to retweet it or you just need to get
that one night view mean you got to make
it in the by fin they don't want it as
much as you want it you know saying they
don't want it as much as you and you you
have a vision and you have to you have
to bring it to fruition God's giving you
division heating gifts of my house
division he gave it to you and so you
have to run with it right so amen some
any vision is so much to talk about I
mend guys let's just go to spirit just
all the things that you're seeing it's
in this book it's like you're gonna get
affirmation for what you probably
already know deep down but you haven't
read it yet that's Joe or as Jordan
Maxwell said it needed to be written
this is a book that was was waiting to
be put into into form into compact form
and yeah so anyway brother thank you for
joining us today and I want to thank
Johnny for producing this show is there
any last things you want to share here
it's like so far you want to read Tracy
the weirdos are the most loyal if you
met me embrace our weird and love others
weird and yeah let your freak flag fly
for sure um man I mean that just I think
it sums it up there's just so much to
talk about in the book again shout out
to Bret Stacey he purchased it sent me
his link but he uh again um it's the
number one released today in Christian
angelology in demonology I'm creeping up
on a spiritual warfare and spiritualism
but wouldn't that be awesome to have the
number one book in Christian spiritual
warfare that would be awesome go by the
book guys help me come up in the ranks
and I guarantee it'll bless you
again you mentioned you know the magical
staffs and in that that whole that whole
chapter is just interesting I'm talking
about the magical staffs and
that Moses and Aaron had and the wizard
staff and stuff like that but going back
to the blessed items in the cursed items
for you know for any of this to be true
for there to be any truth on one side
that the polar opposite has to be true
as well so for there to be cursed items
or people talk about items that um you
know this I feel like there's a ghost on
here or there's something attached to
this dresser or this mirrors it's a very
old mirror I just keep seeing shadows in
the mirror you know and I'm say we hear
about all this stuff all the time with
these spirits that are attached to it
well for there to be blessed cursed
items there's got to be blessed items as
well so it goes into the Apostle Paul
praying over his handkerchiefs and
sending his handkerchiefs out when the
people got the handkerchief they were
healed and he's blessing these items and
stuff like that and even going into the
the horseshoe the rabbit's foot and the
lure these items that give you good luck
to have them and just how the mind
connects to that if they don't hold any
significance it's the placebo if I can
just touch the hem of His garment I
really don't think that there was much
power in Jesus's garment but it was the
fact that she knew her faith was like if
I can just touch the hem of His garment
I'll be healed you know and that's what
she did and she was healed she got what
she was looking for so I go into all
that stuff and this is very very
important because the drudgery for
yesterday had an article I was like oh
my gosh we gotta go live about this so I
read it all and discussed it but there's
a there was like a haunted doll that
curses it's like a hundred year old
porcelain doll it was on TV and talk
about cursed items like that's where
Annabelle comes from I almost covered
that like that's where the Annabelle
stuff comes from I didn't cover that
because I wanted to just some more
friends stuff and that's just kind of
want everybody resonated with I might
have mentioned it I don't know but
that's definitely where that comes from
the cursed doll that people are having
in their house and they take the story
and run with it you know oh yeah yeah
you do not want to yeah we just need to
pray over everything
and I think we are both in agreement
that we bless all of you guys our
listeners and bless your house and may
the Lord show you if there's anything
your house that shouldn't be there and
the same for us because we're in like
I'm telling you I live
I'm surrounded by Buddhist temples and
Japanese Shinto shrine stuff and I'm in
America it's the weirdest thing ever
I found a shrine that has a dedication
to George Washington a Japanese Shinto
shrine for George Washington like what
the heck
I covered George Washington in the book
no he had a he had an angelic
visitations that gave him the vision of
America and it was recorded and so I
went into that and talked about I'll
talk about all these people who founded
something profound that had an encounter
that Apostle Paul encountered Jesus this
bright light that knocks him off his
horse you know that's right we don't say
Muhammed Joseph Smith's all of these
people who claim to have angelic
interaction that changed the course of
their life now did they really have that
encounter or they making it up is it a
an easy vouch well it wasn't me it was
an angel I didn't say that God said it
you know what I'm saying this easy
cosign so there's a bit of skepticism
now most of people know who hang on me
like I'm skeptic I want to know I want
to make sure that this is what we're
entertaining like I like this scientific
I would say you're not like doubting I
mean I mean - I try to not get all
emotional about stuff but when I see
something I'm gonna say something
there's a difference does it I think
there's a difference in like like
closing your eyes and let's go to Mars
Wow like I got friends who would do that
maybe they can but for me like it's a
long process it's not instant no I'm
talking about I'm talking about going
deep into the trance where you're like
you're going in man you're going in like
it's not like we can imagine stuff but
I'm like wanna did I imagine that or did
I really encounter it like we're talking
about I'm more concerned even with all
these people I've had some of these deep
people who I've had on my show we're
talking about angels and they've never
seen anything
it's all spiritual it's all almost in
theory what changed what changed my life
was seeing stuff in the physical like
I've had these things would literally
come through you know I'm saying I've
seen these in the place you see too many
things then you kind of lose your faith
bucks for it like your spirit bucks
because you know you don't have to have
faith to believe it you just saw it well
you did yeah you believe you have more
like maybe maybe for faith but for me it
was like cuz then you have the skeptics
who say see it's all face you're just
making it up it's just a belief but it's
like for me it like it like was a
validation that like heaven is for real
like heaven is a place and angels travel
back and forth from heaven to earth and
carry messages and it's literally out
there amongst the Stars
and you can see them if you want to if
you go out there for long enough and you
pray and ask the Father and just look
you'll be able to see them like that's
different then just close your eyes I
can see heaven like like literally God
where they are in him it's like letting
you see them travel like literally other
people are witnessing it with you demons
all of it there's something there when
when it crosses the threshold from the
spirit realm into this reality and and I
that's the ones that really I love all
the spiritual stuff - don't get me wrong
but I'm really intrigued when they cross
over right when you pull something out I
had a friend recently contact me and he
was telling me about this he's like yeah
we're we're not gonna release this
information yet but we're basically
having encounters with angels like a lot
and and I'm like really tell me more and
he's a new well I can't really get too
deep in the book you got a bottom just
know that it's oh ya know yeah there's
gonna be a ton but just the fascinating
thing that whole subject is so cool
because he was like the most kind of
disappointing thing is like how normal
they are there like so human they're
like so much like us it's like meeting
you where you're talking to me it's like
you met an angel I mean that's the thing
it's like you want it to just blow your
socks off yeah it's supernatural we're
talking to an angel right now it's wait
you're an angel okay you know that was
cool like and I think
we're gonna need to normalize the
supernatural a little bit more so
they're just up rate automatically and
you know like what if I was like crying
and peeing in my pants like every time I
got a message from Derek Ross birth well
I kind of do but you know you know
that's like that's what it's gonna be
like it's like you're talking to
chica like oh you're talking to an angel
you're talking to Jesus this is just
reality and what you're doing is you're
normalizing it to a point where it's an
everyday thing you know every day you
can listen to the show you can open that
book and I think that's none of our
whatever I got it you see I have to take
this call thank you God you came out all
right turn that up it will just fade it
out from there goodbye gosh you guys