How To Use Your Dreams To Manifest Your Desired Reality | Tyrone Brown
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tyrone brown tyrone welcome to the true
secret podcast my friend how are you
thanks for having me i'm doing good man
and it's funny you mentioned you
you met with the woman who was the et
mom yeah that's the first movie i saw in
the movie theater back in 1982
in the theater so it holds a special
place in your heart too huh
yeah for sure that's what's up yeah
surreal man how how the uh the
matrix works dude you know watching that
movie and
you know scared the depth of it
was like scary at the time and uh but
now you know having to talk with
you not only her for me it's been you
know a lot of people
um you know people we look up to now
that we find out that they are just
people
and are accessible and we can have
conversations and talk with them if we
create a podcast and send an email you
know it's really really interesting you
know
exactly so we're going to get it in man
we're going to talk about aliens
we're going to talk about a lot of stuff
want to pick your brain about dreams and
this is something that you bring to the
table teaching people how to
decode their dreams and manifest their
reality through paying attention to
signs and symbols within the dream so i
want to go in deep with with you on that
but i do want to
talk about the alien stuff as well so i
guess for those people who don't know
who you are just kind of do an
introduction what you bring to the table
that kind of thing we'll start there
yeah my name is tyrone go by ty for
short
and um yeah with the dreams how i got
into dreams was
when i was maybe four or five years old
i remember
having memory of dreams at an early age
by the time i got 14 i stumbled upon
upon this esoteric story didn't even
know it was a thing
they had crystals and psychic readings
and they had books
and i discovered astral travel books and
dream books
and i realized oh this is actually a
thing so i read about dreams
ever since i was 14 i've been decoding
my dreams and
learning from them and and ultimately
life led me down a magic path
um just through synchronistic events and
um
as you can call me metaphysical events
just uh
just events that that showed me that
there's much more to reality than what
we see and
feel and hear right here uh ultimately
led me down the path of studying
shamanism and energy healing
and then that just opened the gate even
more with the dreams and visions and
the whole thing that i now teach and
talk like while i'm here now today
yeah so you pretty much do it all huh
yeah but i've done you know so many
things in the past
yeah but yeah that's that's it's just
life just put me in this path it's not
something i could
explain it's just it was just happening
um you know i like to talk about the you
know the genesis and how you got into it
was that i mean was that it just walking
into that store just opened up
a lot of things in your life seeing this
material getting these books and lucid
dreaming and
is that what started it or did you have
any uh conflict was there any hardships
or going down the wrong path with it or
anything like that when you were
younger yeah so probably like a lot of a
lot of people that are tuned in
and to you that you that you that are
drawn here
are probably very similar in the sense
that you feel a little different
than the masses you know there's there's
just some things that you
may see the world a little differently
you're you're open to things more than
maybe the average person
and and i always felt that as a as a kid
too and so now to discover this store
and
spiritual books and esoteric and
metaphysical stuff
it really just like showed me that i'm
not crazy in my head
there's actually a whole other world
that exists that's going on here
and um and that etsy it never went down
like a dark path with it but
it's definitely a journey you just you
discover okay there's this whole path of
i'll just call it spiritual awakening
becoming aware
waking up out of the matrix and that
that process
i went through a militant phase for a
while where i was waking up at 5am
meditating for two hours every day
and it was militant and it served its
purpose for a time but it wasn't
sustainable
so now i long story short i've learned
to
you know not be so strict to to take
what i've learned but to also be in the
world you know
if there's a quote that's a buddha quote
or something be in the world but not of
the world
yeah it's jesus jesus that's it that's
it jesus i'm glad you were able to
point that to the right person yeah yeah
that's it man and uh or or that or like
you know being so spiritual that you
know earthly good
that says all you're doing is meditating
all you're doing is hanging out with
et's and spirit beings and all that kind
of stuff you know
yeah that was me for a while i'm glad to
like have you found my ground so
yeah right i think it's a pretty natural
process
you you're fully immersed in it and you
get strict to it but but then you
realize
you can enjoy this world too and yeah
yeah
yeah i had a uh i had a i had a lyric in
one of my songs when guardium leviosa
that says excommunicated not my only
friends or spirits who speak to me and
when i'm lonely
and understand the way that i'm feeling
so it's like
sometimes like that you know you know
and really thinking about that too when
i got into the occult which led me down
a dark path just because i was a
misguided teen
and i was you know i was 13 getting into
the stuff as well and
but i went down the dark path and met a
warlock and taught us all kind of weird
stuff trying to talk to demons and stuff
like that
and a lot of those things that i was
doing like i was at home
alone living in in the woods and i'd be
at home home
you know for days by myself and i would
do like
try to summon demons so i can have
friends dude like i wanted to
show up just so they'll hang out with me
like when i really look back at us like
dang
i ended up like opening up those doors
and portals just because i was lonely
man that's crazy
yeah yeah yeah i need somebody to just
be wild so we have to be able to
you know have conversations and and be
regular people too and
and that's hard to balance for a lot of
people
yeah definitely definitely and uh yeah
it's yeah that's that's interesting to
hear that part of your story
that it's like the stuff we learn in
that the stuff we're taught as fantasy
as a kid you realize that's actually
more what real life is like
yeah it's like kind of backwards yeah
and speaking of that like i remember
when i wanted it to be real and it was
like oh yeah this is just fake it's fake
and it's like no no it is real it's like
oh right
it really is real like these powers
telekinesis shooting fire out your hands
like all that stuff is legit
you know you know aliens are real and
you know all of this stuff and so
it opens up a whole nother world of um
you know recapturing that dream
like the the alchemist you know of what
you let go
with fantasy you know is now your
reality
yeah so yeah and there's a there's a
whole
whole reason behind why we're so
disconnected from that which
you know that you can just sum it up to
the matrix well you know thank god for
movies though you know what i'm saying
because like you know e.t and those
movies and
there's so many more alien movies were
huge back in the day especially the
you know the good alien movies you know
there's so much like horror movies too
but
movies about the countries yeah close
encounters uh supernatural abilities and
x-men and all this kind of stuff that
kind of lit that you know that
hope for the supernatural to be real and
then say oh yeah it's not real
you know none of us really find out that
it is i'm telling you like movies and
all that stuff
has a great way of of birthing something
within your spirit of something that is
real
that you were told isn't i mean even
looking at like uh
at the movie avatar and like there was
like a phenomena that happened with that
movie and people were
um a lot of people got depressed because
they felt like they were part of this
world that movie was so magical it
pulled them in with
magic and and if you pay attention to
that movie there's dream symbolism
there's shamanism there's
kundalini yoga there's a lot of stuff in
there that is legit so it's not like
this fake world that doesn't exist like
it's something that you can actually
engage with something very similar
you know and you find out that it's real
but a lot of people got depressed after
watching that movie
because they opened up this world and
then they had to kind of say goodbye you
know it's kind of
strange you know actually i'm sure it
connects the dreams to that movie right
now i'll just just throw it in there
and that's so the the blue people the
navi people that's what they're called
the navi people of avatar
so the inspiration for them that james
cameron had
was from a dream that his mother had
so james cameron's mom had a dream that
she met with a 12-foot tall
blue-skinned extraterrestrial being she
told the dream to her son and he
created them as the characters for this
movie avatar wow
yeah and where i i come from with my
perspective and my experience is is that
and james cameron's mom if you're
listening you know get in touch uh that
that she may have actually met with in
the astral plane
in an astral plane somewhere in the
astral world an actual being
like that blue skin being may have been
an actual real encounter and not just
some
dream subconscious projection that's
good well let's
let's go into the dream stuff and uh
because you mentioned dreams and
shamanism and i really believe that
a true shaman is someone who's just
simply able to go into the dream state
whether it's induced or you're going in
every night lucid
and pull stuff out pull stuff out and
birth it into this reality so
for me i think it's that simple of what
a shaman is now whether we're doing that
through transmeditation breath work
or the dream state because all of that
other stuff is hacking
the dream state essentially so um you
know
what what is it what is it for you that
that that maybe that
that early thing again you found a book
about lucid dreaming and stuff what made
it real for you
to know that there's there's something
to this the going into the dreams lucid
yeah no it was kind of a combination of
like synchronicities in the waking life
and also like having these little
premonition dreams or
call them psychic dreams reminiscing
dreams yeah those little things like
you know you have a dream of someone you
hadn't seen in a long time you see them
the next day a real real
simple one or you have a dream of a frog
and
you haven't seen a frog in forever and
all of a sudden you look down there's a
frog at your feet
you know and that actually triggers the
memory of the dream yeah little things
like that i see as little winks from the
universe you just caught wings from god
wings from
you know just it's it's something that's
nudging you in the direction of like
start paying attention pay attention to
your dreams pay attention to your
feelings your intuition
like there's like pay attention to these
things there's more here
and when you say there with the being
the shaman
same thing same thoughts i have is that
you know we can become our own shaman
because it is as simple as that
we are we have that that that ability
every night when we sleep we're having
dreams we're having visions now if we're
remembering them then we're bringing
them back
again there's a definition of like you
said bringing back
information from the other side and
sharing that information yeah
so i guess figuring out how to do it for
yourself like
uh as far as finding your purpose and
all of that kind of stuff and
was that was that something that
happened in in the dream state as well
like
on maybe even getting direction on how
to do things
yeah it was a combination of you know
when i studied shamanism with
with these particular two teachers they
gave me a little some insights around
dreams as well
and then yes then i started realizing
that i started having dreams that
didn't seem like normal dreams that
seemed more real
and i could even go as far as saying
they seem more mundane just
just like your everyday life you're
having a conversation with someone
but maybe they're human maybe they're
not maybe you're having a conversation
with an animal or or a tree in the dream
space in the dream
but you're you're being taught
information so i see those as direct
message dreams
dm dm dreams just straight up this is
here's some wisdom for you to apply to
your life
so we can get these direct message
dreams and
dreams like that started really like
catching my attention of like there is
definitely
this stuff isn't random you know this
there's something here like
every night we're getting breadcrumbs to
like
towards whatever we want to accomplish
in life whatever challenges we have
every single night whatever we want to
do be
attract get over transcend
it's all showing up in our dreams
everything everything
all there yeah yeah i mean i've had them
too like just the little things i found
i found it really weird when i would
have this thing and it
started happening quite regularly as i
would have a dream and then mo
like most people you wake up and you
forget it until
whether it was the dream of the frog or
whatever but i remember
for one it was uh i woke up really early
to go to work and i'm at work at like
three in the morning
removing boxes and all that stuff in the
warehouse and we got the radio on
all of a sudden the band sublime comes
on the radio
and i hear the song and uh all of a
sudden i'm transported back to my dream
and in the dream that night i was at a
sublime
concert and that one that you know that
first note or that lyric that they were
singing
i was in the crowd and it was this long
drawn out dream of me at a sublime
concert that i forgot about
until something triggered all of these
memories
that i had about the concert that was in
the dream state like you know
really strange how we see things and it
triggers something in our
deeper inner knowing and that was
something that i dreamed that night
now what about you know stuff that's
coded within our dna you're talking
about remembering
dreams when you were little and having
these weird memories come to you and
stuff like that like
but it's something that triggers it you
know um and we may not be able to
articulate it we don't know what it is
until we
start exploring these memories and these
premonitions and these
uh you know deja vu's and things like
that you know
yeah yeah
so yeah yeah man um it's like those
like i said little winks from the
universe you you hear the song
and then that remember reminds you of
your dream and
it's it's just like like that's a
psychic dream in a sense
in a sense it could be or but it's um
yeah i'm trying to see where i'm going
to go with this but yeah it was just
just the phenomena of like
having all these thoughts and i'm not
really a big past life guy
i'm kind of vocal about it but i guess
it would work the same way
like you didn't like if if it is true
past lives or something like
something triggers you to remember all
of this stuff
you know that you forgot about i forgot
about the sublime concert
but it's in there yeah it's something
memories in there triggered it and
woke it up and we're going back to like
even if it's not past life stuff let's
go to like dna stuff stuff that's
encoded within your dna
the supernatural the watching this movie
and then
okay the you know here comes the credits
and it was just a movie and you're like
oh man i feel
a connection with this that's deeper
than just the movie you know
yeah yeah like that let's again that
sublime experience
uh it's it's like that's um
it's it's i'm sorry i'm getting a little
lost in my words here
um but it's it's showing you that there
is no
time yeah really it all time exists now
because you have a dream of something
that happens the next day
yeah for example like a psychic dream or
something
it that's really showing you that it's
it's all just
existing here and now now what about
those things that you
you need to do like
you're not doing something and it keeps
coming up in your dream because i have
that a lot or you're doing something
wrong or
you're procrastinating not taking that
next step and then you're just like
plagued by it
in the dream state until you take that
next step
yes you keep having the same same dream
it might be the same or it might be the
same
theme yeah but different different
setting different actors
different people but the same scenario
yeah yeah because the the core in the
dream is the feelings that it's evoking
it's the core message
uh of course the imagery can be
important but the main
thing to pull from the dream is what
were my feelings in that dream
because that's the imagery is there to
evoke the feelings that are within
so for example if there's stress or
anxiety around something keep showing up
keep showing up
it keeps showing up because it's there
and there's some part of you that wants
you to see it so you can
look at it and be like all right all
right this is not serving me anymore
let's move beyond this okay let's move
forward um
and yeah so it'll just keep showing up
until you look at it so
you know yesterday i was in a
conversation with someone they were
talking about
you know wanting to stop their
nightmares i was like oh and they were
calling them bad dreams and so you know
what actually bad dreams are actually
good if you want to use the words good
and bad they're actually good because
they're there to show you something
that's
running a predominant thought pattern
your belief it's no longer serving you
it keeps running it's it's there so you
can look at it try to figure out what it
is though right
that's it there's a lot of times we
already know i mean
i know you know what i'm saying like a
lot of times i'll have a dream i don't
know if it's just i have a gift or i'm
just i'm
i know what the symbolism is because i'm
conscious of it obviously
not everybody knows but what do you
think about that um
people already knowing and then someone
having to like hey i need help with this
dream and figuring it out
you know seriously i'm like if some part
of us already knows what the answer is
i not everybody i mean that's obvious
because i mean and i've been there too
i've had to like sit down and talk to
people and draw stuff out and write the
dream out and they broke it down for me
at interpretation yeah
but maybe since that that i i'm
conscious now
a lot of times when i have those dreams
i already know like i wake up and say
okay that snake
that snake that bit me really
represented this friendship
of this person who is a snake you know
what i'm saying or the tornado that was
headed towards my house represents this
thing that i'm involved with that i need
to get out of
or it's going to wreck my life you know
what i'm saying like these symbolism
but i guess at first especially when i
was younger
i didn't know um i would have weird
prophetic dreams and i have to talk to
somebody to get it out so
i don't know um some people know maybe
it's that the inner knowing or you're do
you
probably got to be trained in this
though right i mean i didn't know it
early on
yeah i just feel as i feel like if
there's anxiety dreams coming up
we may not be looking at the dream and
connecting it to
anxiety until we realize that that's
something you can do
but i feel a lot of us do know if we
really sat down and trust
trust what we feel that we a lot of us
know a lot more
than than we give ourselves credit for
like we know
that job's not really for us or we know
that
this relationship's not so good or we'd
know that
maybe i shouldn't drink 20 cups of
coffee a day
you know i'm exaggerating but you know
like we know these things they're
showing up in our dreams
but as far as translating goes or
interpreting those
i like to encourage people to to not
look up symbols online
um you know if you get stuck sure go
ahead i'm not anti looking up like
definitely
but start first to tune into yourself
you look at a symbol like like you said
the snake
biting could represent this friendship
or just look at
the symbols the snake the frog the lion
the people in your dreams what do they
represent to you
yeah because but one example i give
often is a lion
like someone who's born in a place where
they live in a jungle where lions are
real like in the desert somewhere where
lions are a real
threat somewhere like the amazing
totally different
yeah and they grew up they know they've
heard stories of people members of the
tribe being taken by lions
so if they go out past sunset they
always go in groups and they're always
very vigilant and aware of their
surroundings
yeah because to them someone might a
lion might represent
fear and danger and and worry but to
someone whose parents were
rescued lions and rescued lying cubs and
raised them
who got to cuddle lions you know to her
dreams
lions dreams might represent something
completely different to someone who saw
them as a threat
yeah um man i you know i i
study and teach it from a uh a biblical
perspective and i feel like you have to
be able to teach to
teach the if you're gonna do symbolism
which it plays a huge part
the signs and symbols throughout the
dream um that you have to have the
duality
you can't say like okay just because
again the lion that is something that's
a threat you need to run
the the lion represents this with every
symbol you have to i think you have to
have the duality but probably even more
than just
you know duality is you know up and down
positive negative maybe it's
you know left and right as well um
because
you know in the scriptures when it talks
about uh a lion
you have jesus represents the lion the
conquering lion from the tribe of judah
and uh and you know uh from from narnia
you have aslan
which was just christ figure which was a
lion and
and uh the conquering lion and so but
then you got another you have scriptures
that talk about how
satan your adversary you know
creeps around like a roaring lion
seeking to whom he may devour
so for somebody who only knows that one
who only sees you know satan as a lion
that's trying to get me
you're going to see those dreams and
you're automatically going to interpret
it as something negative the same thing
with snakes
you know the snakes are or something
that is poisonous that's trying to bite
you
also snakes are synonymous with wisdom
the wisdom keepers i'm trying to give
you wisdom but you're running from this
wisdom so you really got to
interpret the fullness of the dream and
where you are in life too
and you got to teach those you got you
have to teach duality with the symbolism
yeah definitely it's good to write these
things out too when you're writing your
dreams out
just break it down like you said break
it down like okay there was this there
was a snake
and this happened and and just break
down each piece
like okay what does this represent to me
or my feelings in the dream
so what the object represents to me and
what were the feelings about it in the
dream
and the picture will paint itself for
you in front of you and you'll put
you'll put a picture together
and once you put this picture together
from your dream i like to take it
another step further
and take whatever that message is and
like consolidate it into like a one
one liner like a one word a few words
that's some sort of affirmation
positive quote mantra and put that
somewhere you're going to see it a few
times a day
because now we're taking not just
writing down our dreams in our journal
but it
does now we're taking that wisdom we're
learning and seeing it every day
and now we're applying it to our daily
life yeah that's where the change in
growth happens versus just writing it
down on that
and being being entertained by it it's
like be entertained by it but also
let's uh let's do this oh yeah that's
like there's a process of
again the shaman or whatever pulling
this thing out of your dream like
it's just an idea it's just something
that exists in the ethers
it's a possibility uh that of your
journey but
if you just leave it there it's gonna
stay there so do having these practices
of writing it down
of reminding yourself reminding yourself
is huge i'm big on that
um but actually these steps to pull it
out right
yeah yeah that's it now um what is what
is lucid dream because you mentioned
lucid dreaming and being lucid in a
dream what what is like going into a
dream with
um intention is it just for fun is it
uh to look for clues what like what
exactly is lucid dreaming
okay yeah yeah and i'll just say she
mentioned in
intention too so even just with regular
dreaming
you can set an intention to receive
information about a specific thing that
you want some information about
um and if you don't receive it the first
night you know just stick with that
intention and just just know you'll
receive the answer when when the time is
right for you
but that's an intention you can set an
intention to get song inspiration
like to get a new a new beat get some
lyrics
oh yeah i've done this myself me too
yeah okay
i wouldn't say that i set the intention
but i woke up with those
lyrics i'll say that and i had to get
them out of me because i knew they would
disappear you know
yeah that's it it's fun when that
happens too yeah paul mccartney
you know the song yesterday all my
troubles seemed so far away
that song the melody for that song came
to paul mccartney in a dream
and then the beatles all together
completed the song but they got the
start of it
um but yeah so then with lucid dreaming
lucid being
you you're aware that you're in a dream
so you're in your dream
and you're like hey i'm in a dream let
me fly
you know let me go visit this place uh
and also being lucid in life so
i find they both feed each other so as
you start to become
practice being more and more present in
your waking life
you're more likely to lose a dream and
as you practice lucid dreaming
you also start to become more lucid and
present in your waking life so with me
i've been doing a lot of mindfulness
practice for many years and
and just always coming back to being
present being present being present so
often i'm not any longer trying
techniques to get into a lucid dream but
what happens is
i'll just be aware enough often not
always
that i'll see something change you know
most recently i saw
a cup on the table change color when i
looked away and looked back
says hey that i thought okay am i just
i'm either tripping or
i'm in a dream and and i was in a dream
so then i became lucid because that
something was off awesome
you'll notice like that's it it's so
actually in the movie inception
they had what was called they called
them totems
a totem would be like any physical
object
there's a pen you know uh the leonardo
dicaprio's character dom cobbs in the
movie
he had a spinning top little thing you
spin yeah
and so the idea with this this is just
one of the things you can do to help
elusive dreaming
is you you pick an object it can be a
crystal
it could be a little crystal or a stone
or something you have a small you can
keep in your pocket
and something you can feel like i can
feel okay there's a little crease here i
know the weight of it
you know the texture of it so you know
what it's like and so a few times
throughout the day many times throughout
the day
put your hand in your pocket you feel
the object make note of those little
key characteristics of it now you've
done this so many times throughout your
day
not just in one day you just keep doing
this now in your dreams
you're likely to reach in your pocket
feel for that stone
either it's not going to be there or
it's going to feel different
it doesn't have to be a stone or a
crystal but it's just any object
that's how they use that in the movie
that makes sense
yeah if i articulate that all right yeah
okay and one of the there's as many
techniques and i don't go too long into
them but
just one basic one and that is um look
at the time so if you have a watch
most people have a phone the release so
if y'all
a few times throughout the day maybe
every like three hours roughly or so
three or four hours
look at the time intentionally look at
it make note
okay it's 11 11. look away look back
okay it's still the same time and in a
dream
when you look back it's going to change
the number's going to be floating it's
not even going to be your phone anymore
to be some other object
another thing you can say is just like
throughout the day is am i dreaming or
am i awake
and you can you know do one of your
reality checks you can
touch your object or look at the time
but yeah am i dreaming around my awake
the idea though is you need to do one of
these techniques
like to stick with one and do it day
after day after day
throughout the day and it takes some
dedication
but that will set the subconscious
mind to do it also in your dreams to
then
trigger you awake um let me see if i can
try to articulate this or explain the
theory yeah um you have
so all of these things we're talking
about these laws in the dream and things
that you do and you're
you're reminded that you're in a dream
and a lot of them are like deja vu's and
just weird things that happen
but then we're having like similar
experiences with our eyes open
in our day to day and many people
believe this to be a dream or this to be
a simulation i mean heck there's
theories that the dream world is
our real life and every night that we go
it's another life but in this
is the dream this is the test or
whatever um
so what about having some of those
exercises or
i mean synchronicities breadcrumbs all
of that stuff not in the dreams but
actually happening with our eyes open
like the the laws and i'd say the lines
kind of blur because you're
again the shaman you know so
uh easily goes back and forth fluidly
between the realms and so things bleed
over the synchronicities bleed over
the manifestation bleeds over the people
you haven't talked to and you think
about them and there they are like
all of these things the phone calls that
you can feel through psychic abilities
getting good at them and so
there's like the lines between the
spirit world which is the dream world in
a sense right it's
a way we can get there uh bleeding over
with our eyes open so
a lot of these rules apply the
synchronicities the matrix when you
look at the black cat that keeps
crossing that path every day
hold on something's up something's going
i'm
something is conscious of me whether
it's god the universe is trying to send
me
signals you know to let me know i'm in
this dream but i'm conscious or
something
you articulate that a little bit yeah
i'm glad you brought it i'm glad you
took the conversation there because
yeah so i created a course and and in
the end of the course after you learn
everything about dreams i have a final
course
called the waking dream in short
i just say everything that you've
learned about dreams you can now apply
to your waking life
just what you're saying yeah you know
symbolism and it's not to over
analyze things and look for signs it's
just to allow the signs to come to you
yeah but you start to see like you said
synchronicities you think of someone and
there they are
it's it's that those la line between the
dream world in this world
starts to fade and and now so me
personally how have you life just based
on my experiences
is like that it's it's basically it's
all here
we call it we call it dream world spirit
world physical world
it's all a big world in a sense
now there's different vibrations of
existence why
you know here the physical plane we're
at a certain frequency range so
we see and feel the physical things here
and then
sometimes higher dimensional beings and
crafts can
manifest themselves into this vibration
but it's it's all really
all here it's all just one big one big
party in existence
but you gotta just like different worlds
separated by frequency
even the dream world astral world
because there's levels to it you know
and there's different
you know i feel like there's different
places in it you know it's a different
place you go to
i i even i don't know if just because
you're lucid in a meditation or you're
like intentionally doing it but it
there's a different it's a different
place than just going to
to the dream world like of where you go
through like mindful meditation and
trying to receive or or or um
you know talk to god or angels or
whatever like when you meditate going in
that way versus like i'm just gonna go
to sleep and i
i talk to angels when i sleep i feel
like there's different realms or rooms
if you will
that we can access through breath work
meditation and sleeping
even though we are we're still it's
similar because it's slippery
and it's going in through the
imagination and the mind and
and that kind of thing you know would
you are they similar are they different
what's your experience with the you know
mindfulness yeah and
you know going in and encountering
beings and just going to sleep kind of
thing
yeah there's just just that many
different worlds i like you said many
different doors but yeah
many different doors many different
worlds and it's just like a tv set you
know if you
plug a tv in the wall right now put the
antennas up
turn the channels you're going to get
all kinds of movies flying all around us
right now literally
there's all these shows and broadcasts
so based on you turn a channel three
you're gonna see what exists on channel
three turn to channel nine you're gonna
see what exists in channel nine
those channels are actually frequencies
so
frequency that we exist in we see the
frequencies that are on this channel
and and then like you said through like
meditation breath work just
we can raise our frequency raise our
vibration in a sense
change the channel turn the knob up and
now we can perceive some other
other communication and the realms or
you can lower it
you can lower it too yes and i've done
that as well and
like you said you had those experiences
too and yeah i've definitely
encountered lower vibrational beings or
more lost souls but uh the intent wasn't
didn't feel good so yeah you can call
either either direction
yeah um man i remember um you know i
guess when i got into
lucid dreaming without knowing what it
was just being lucid
in a dream i'll say that was when uh
when i was a kid it was at an early age
just kind of trained in my
mind uh to to do this was like i was
obsessed with horror movies
i still like a good horror movie but i
was obsessed with them as a kid so much
so
when i turn the lights off i'm scared to
death you know i think they're under my
bed
my closet coming down the hallway you
know we did that for fun
just to feel alive and just intrigued by
that genre and um
but i was plagued with nightmares like
you know almost every night was
critters jason freddy neimans gremlins
all of them every night
um so i got to the point where it would
happen so much to like
if if one of those monsters which was
chasing me in a dream
they would grab me i'll try to get away
from them because if they can take me
somewhere and torture me and i got to
put up with it and see them and all that
kind of stuff
you're trying to run you're trying to
get away obviously that's natural
um but eventually i learned to to go
ahead and kill myself in a dream
and so i would do this uh a couple
different things i would i remember
running and diving headfirst into a rock
like if there was a rock they'd
they'd be chasing me and i would dive
into the rock and go ahead and kill
myself
so that when i died i wake up i pull
myself out to drink
and uh because if they got me and so it
was weird because in my mind they knew i
was trying to kill myself they're like
no let's
we want to keep you here so we can
torture you and scare you and um
i remember swimming to the bottom of
like a river and trying to drown myself
because i knew that when i when i
drowned myself in my dream that i would
wake up and be back in my body and the
dream would be over
and they would try to like pull me out
the water coming to get me this is like
this weird of like knowing that okay
this is a dream if you kill yourself
you'll wake up at an early age was
something very interesting to open the
door of lucid dreaming for me and not
even really know it
well that's a pretty wild wild wild
dreams man
that that itself is like content for a
good horror film
yeah yeah yeah yeah well i mean i guess
it is freddy though i mean that's
you know some of that bleeds over into
freddy and they like went into
to uh the dream state to fight freddie
you can only fight him in the dream
state
and and i don't know if you want to
comment on anything else on that
scenario but i want to take it
a step further with or for a question
but if you have anything on that that
lucid dream in yeah just that yeah i
mean if you're watching horror films
yeah
sometimes you might you know watch a
movie before you go to sleep dream of
that movie
it's it's not it's not always just
because of that sometimes it is
especially as a kid you're rushing
horror films you have those fears in
there because the brain doesn't register
in a spank
brain registers it as real even though
it's
so you're gonna do that but sometimes
you might have a dream like you watch
the episode of something and
that next day you have a dream similar
to it but it actually you realize if you
look at it
oh okay there's some information there
you know
what happened in the dream like you can
actually even look at those dreams don't
just like write them off
yeah like first take a look at them you
might get something out of it yeah i
mean
we talk about too like for that i mean
that was my childhood that was my fear
level um other kids who
have not watched those movies would have
maybe the same messages come through
their dreams
but their fear is maybe falling off
their bike in slow motion
it's gonna hurt you know when you have
these fears that are coming to you
for me because of what i'm entertaining
with my eyes open that stuff bleeds over
so my fear i wouldn't be scared of
falling off the bike i'd get back up and
keep going
but for somebody else who doesn't have
these levels of grotesque
entities that are trying to kill them
like you know that that that
doesn't even compute in their mind so
the same message with that fear
or abandonment or some something's
trying to attack me or i'm scared to get
hurt
will manifest in a different way in the
dream right
yeah that's it that's it we yeah we get
the imagery that is going to evoke those
feelings for us
um so i guess what else i wanted to ask
you too just talking about the horror
stuff and the bad dreams and stuff like
what have you heard or experienced about
because i remember i first heard this
from david wilcock and i did it and it
worked
but just like there was this um weird
reoccurring dream of
just me being in some kind of weird
building and this monster is trying to
get me and i open up the door and try to
get
through the door and shut the door so i
don't have to face it
and it's trying to get you and you run
you know and i heard him talk about like
if you stop and
face that thing that's trying to get you
that you have breakthrough and
and the nightmare will stop like if you
actually fight the monster
or not even fight it but just turn and
face it face your fears in the dream
state
that even in in your awakened reality
you'll have breakthrough if you face
your fears in the dream state
yeah yeah definitely and um i mean you
know
everyone's experience is so unique but
that is as a common thing to happen
and that's why uh some people like to
practice lucid dreaming
is to to be able to do that specifically
you know
having reoccurring nightmares well
practice lucid dreaming
and face those fears like it's not even
facing the fear it's just
it's not a fear look at it you face it
right that's it
you realize it doesn't have power over
you yeah yeah
and i i've done this before too i've
been running from something in my dream
mid running to come lucid turn around
stop yeah face it
yeah and it's and you know
it picked up concrete and fireballs and
threw them back at
you know like this big beast that was
like
trying to kill me yeah and yeah but yeah
yeah but just somehow subconsciously
somehow doing that it's like you just
leveled up your power your
self-empowerment yeah and so
that when you wake up yeah you've got
that
leveled up you've got your badge you
just earned in the game
uh that now gives you extra abilities
you know when something else comes up a
normal situation in life you might react
to a normal
in a different way or a way not ideal
you might react to it a little
differently
just just because you're just giving
yourself more power
yeah yeah facing a bully you know for
many people it's not a monster it's a
bully
that has been you know scaring you or
intimidating you your whole life or
and then you face them in your dreams
you know you find breakthrough and it
doesn't bother you when you wake when
you wake up anymore
um we got a question here from jay
marcus says what does it represent in a
dream to always be hiding or finding a
hiding place
yes so i mean it could be to keep it
short you could look at um
you know what what am i hiding from just
reflect on anything in life that you
might be hiding from
it might be something external it might
be something internal
but just like okay what am i hiding from
what am i hiding from
and if you don't know the answer don't
worry don't worry about not knowing
just put that inner inquiry just have
that inner inquiry
and just be open to that and reflect on
it from time to time and just having
that inner inquiry
will usually bring about some sort of
synchronicity that's going to
give you the information you need
awesome
great advice um we're talking about you
know seeing this stuff as a kid
and like you know thinking that it's
real and that's not real and then you
find out again no it is real like this
stuff is real
um i remember having a friend in like um
elementary school and i i lied to him
but i was like hey man they got this new
technology these headsets that
that you can wear and we can essentially
have the same dream
like i can go to sleep and you put this
headset on it will have the same dream
and we can communicate
and i was lying to him he's like oh
really man we need to get it
i was lying maybe i was hoping that that
was real
obviously i have a set of vr goggles if
we both wear the same goggles we're in
the dream world
of that somebody imagined and created
with pixels and
we can do whatever we can rob a bank we
can i mean
the possibilities are endless in vr chat
and some of this stuff it's insane
so essentially some of that's real there
with vr tapping into that
reality but have you heard of um
intentionally or people having the same
dream like hey
let's go to sleep and let's try to
lucidly
connect in the dream and and uh and see
if we can talk to each other and
communicate telepathically or whatever
in the dream state have you heard of any
of that
yeah there's actually been studies i
can't remember the year this was done
but there have been studies done
on lucid dreaming specifically where
they
have people pick a point
in the physical reality but in the dream
space there's somewhere that's actually
real
that exists that they can they're both
familiar with and in the dream space
they have the intention to go there
even people that don't know each other
in this in this group in this study
and that people have been able to show
up at the same place
and people even have a memory of seeing
each other they're like oh yeah you're
like blah blah blah
they were able to say what they were
doing in the dream and seeing each other
so you've had there's been a study done
on that myself personally i've had two
shared dreams
now it wasn't intentional but it
happened it happened with the roommate
once we were sharing a room
it happened with the girlfriend once
where we had the same dream
one time the roommate we both had a
spider-man dream in the same night we
didn't watch but it was nothing
we didn't watch spider-man nothing it
was just we both had different but
spider-man dreams
now with the girlfriend we had uh we
both had a dream
that the car broke down when we had to
go take the tank so we had the same
dream
take the red tank and go pick up gas for
the for the car
um so it does happen and you can
intentionally
yes do that often though one person will
remember the encounter and one
person won't that happens a lot bring it
up
yeah like even if you both sent the
intention like oh yeah we were there i
was doing this and the other person's
like oh i don't remember i don't i don't
remember that but it doesn't mean it
didn't happen for them it just
they just didn't bring it back now what
about this um
this feeling of going going
going having dreams and visiting
for me it was schools like i go to
different schools in different cities
and meeting kids and friends at the
school and uh
like and seeing them in other dreams
like hanging out with this group of
friends
at this different school almost like you
have friends on the other side that show
up in other dreams
i don't know if they're just figments of
your imagination or friends that you
really want and you create them or they
represent
your friends in your waking life that
you're going to school with and stuff
but i feel like
there's like almost like a world that
exists where you have friends in the
dream state there are cities that i
visited and i go back to those cities
back to those schools and it's like oh
i'm in this i'm in the same city again
i don't know what city it is but
everything looks familiar and
you know with age and going into the
dream state every night
you meet those people again those
friends hey true you know
true seeker what's up man and whether
you're going to school or going to the
mall or something there's like friends
that exist
on the other side what do you think that
represents what is that
yeah well a lot of times those those
seem more real a lot
more real verse they don't really seem
so like melty and
dreamlike you know they seem more just
like here we are just having a chat
you know and they're like we're saying
earlier there's many
planes like kind of a catch-all phrase
is the astral plane astral world
that's not one plane or one world that's
just like other dimensions
there's many and within that there are
worlds that you might visit regularly
and remember like oh yeah i've been to
the city many times i've been to that
park many times i've been to this lake
many times
in natural world i've seen the same
person multiple times
and these are real tangible places
within existence that we're going to
within the astral world
yeah and then you have those problems
too with the friends like you said when
when things are changing in your dreams
like i'm on this journey or riding in a
car with you know five friends
and down looking and then i look you
know and
30 minutes in and then they're changing
their different people it's like you
know you was
it was my brother a while ago now you're
some random dude you know and they're
right next to you and all this stuff's
like changing and
you know the roles are changing in your
dreams like i thought i was going on the
journey with with this guy now
you know hanging out hanging out with
these other people yeah that's how you
can tell is the difference sometimes
when you're like
in in in uh like an astral world for
example i mean it's
even the dream states can consider that
in asheville world as well
but but yes some certain genes are like
that things are changing all the time
other times they just seem more just
real like things aren't changing
people are the same you know you're
everything stays
as it is and uh those are just
they even just feel more real it's often
people tell me this like you know i had
this dream it just felt so real
it's like those are the dreams that you
might meet with a
loved one that's passed away for example
yeah
those often seem more real too um we got
another question here cody's asking uh
he said he has this dream
as a as a kid that uh he said the wrong
thing to somebody and get
shot and uh specifically it was uh
somebody who was preaching damnation in
in religion and he told him he was wrong
and then out of nowhere the guy shoots
him um
what does that mean i'll say i don't
know if you've ever heard this but
a lot of times i've heard that guns and
bullets represent
gossip and talking uh i don't know if
you've ever heard that but um what
would it would how would you interpret
that of coming against a religious
person
you correct them and they shoot you and
it was so weird that it
stuck out to him that i got killed from
you know got shot by this person
yeah i mean this is why the approach
that
for for dream interpretation of you know
finding what things represent to you
um so it can mean many things but what
i'll just go with one thing here and
that's
that's it you know one of many
possibilities is that it could be
that maybe there's some
if it's specifically a religious person
that
that maybe that maybe you have some fear
maybe you have thoughts or feelings that
are a little different a little outside
of the box
uh maybe you have fear of expressing it
maybe you have fear of
being rejected or fear of being attacked
for thinking different
speaking different again that's just one
of many possibilities but
you know for yourself who had that dream
you know just tune in to yourself and
just see okay
is is there something that i'm work i'm
do i worry about expressing anything am
i expressing myself fully
uh you just start to explore around that
area see what comes up
yeah for sure um speaking you're scared
to speak your truth because you'll get
killed or
you know whether it's not literally get
killed but you know get disowned or have
them talk about you again like hey stay
away from this guy he doesn't believe
what we believe anymore which is huge in
the
religious realms anyway yeah um got a
few minutes left man and so i wanted to
you know one of the things that that a
subject that's close to your heart too
is
ufology and ufos and aliens and those
kind of things what's your
what's your experiences what are your
thoughts on uh ufos and aliens maybe to
that
not just in the dream state of these
entities or beings that we communicate
with there but
maybe physical off-world entities that
travel in ufos or
beings that live outside of the space
that
we can see at night or something yeah
for me it connects right to dreams just
based on the way that it came to me so
i'll just share
a little synopsis of how this all came
into my lap the
et connection and so you know again
first movie i saw in the theater was
e.t i was two years old 1982.
uh so then fast forward when i was 10
i was visiting maine and i saw a ship
with a friend
and it was just a light orb way in the
atmosphere though but it was doing the
zigzag stuff just all kinds of maneuvers
to show that it wasn't just a satellite
on a one-line trajectory
saw that that was when i was 10. it
wasn't until fast forward
i was 34 that was 2014
uh in hawaii when myself and three other
friends get out of the car at night
at our house and big orb only about a
hundred feet up in the air
big glowing white orb some people said
it was like a ball of plasma
no sound at all you couldn't see any
form other than it was a contained ball
of light
flew right above our heads silent and
went into the distance i get chills when
i talk about it
that happened in 2014 but but actually
i skipped a step there in 2011
as when i started having my first et
dreams so i started so this is where it
started for me aside from
10 year old vision or 10 year old actual
sighting
in 2011 i started having dreams where i
was meeting with beings those ones that
felt more real like that type of dream
and it'd be being that was like it was a
great you know doing the intense
spiritual work though like the met
like a lot of meditating and getting up
early and those kind of things was that
when this stuff
i had uh it was it was after that
but i had done all that i had done all
that it was pretty pretty soon after
so yeah pretty fresh with that and uh
yeah so i mean with beings that were
in different forms that were not human
you know various beings i could describe
them
uh some look closer to human but
different bone structures and some
not human at all like a human gray
hybrid you know
amphibious beings with you know webbed
fingers and with from sirius
so i started seeing these beings in my
dreams and they were talking to me and
teaching me things and showing me things
i always had these recurring ships in my
dreams where they had
engraved what looked like some sort of
ancient greek writings the best
description i have for
being graves on the outside and the
inside you know they were showing me
this these what we called who we called
uh some of these gods like greek gods
and christian gods
they were teaching me like oh this
person oh they were just talking to like
their people like oh yeah this was
so-and-so and they came
they taught this and they brought this
and that it just looks like it's like
yeah it's just our homies they were just
doing this
and um so so these dreams stood out to
me
then in 2014 physical encounter no drugs
no alcohol
clear mind right right above us then
fast forward 2018
i i continued to have dreams and so they
kept showing up in my dreams and now
there's been a gap between 2014 and 18.
so in 2018 i was like yo star family i
started calling them star families yo
star family
like i know you're real you know i've
looked at all the ancient documentaries
ancient history it's all written in
stone you can't deny that
you know and and i've seen you in my
dreams and i've seen you in person
like i really need to see you again to
really anchor that in like how real you
are because
time goes by it doesn't matter how crazy
of an experience you had
the rest of the world around you is not
acknowledging these types of experiences
yeah it's easy to doubt yourself
and doubt what happened like oh i was i
just made that up maybe it was a dream
so then in 2018 i showed up five times
thank you mad chills right now five
times
all every single time with at least one
person there to experience and witness
it with me
uh four times at our house in hawaii the
ships orbited ships
yeah it's showing up as an orb no okay
so we say we say ships
do do you think that some of these could
have been like nuts and bolt ships or
or actual entities that look like fire
and light and plasma
yeah i know that that exists too there
could be beings manifested in the same
form
but for me they're ships okay and i just
i just know that because in the dreams i
just know
it's like a knowing okay and i had also
been seeing the ships like i mentioned
on the dreams
and being on ships so i knew that there
were some ships coming in contact
um and so but one of the times the house
i did see the structure
it's they it's almost like i don't know
if they turn it down turn down the light
i don't know how it works
yeah but i saw the structure and it was
it was just a disc
i can't i don't know if it was a circle
or a square or a triangle
because i saw one flat angle one one
side of it but it was very thin
what would it be like was it like a uh
cigar shape or the tic tac they call it
no it was actually more like you could
say
it was even a square i could see one
square edge but it could have been a
triangle one flat edge of a triangle who
knows
but i just saw one flat edge me and a
friend it was silent
it it had a white light but it was like
it was turned down it was like dim
it was completely silent and this was
this this occasion
about an hour prior i was like let me
try this out i saw the pleiades star
system
star cluster above me which made me
think of the palladians because they're
they're one of the ones that are have a
strong presence here on earth so i said
hey pleiadians i would love it if you
come by for a visit yeah
and an hour later that ship comes by
right above the tree line of the house
and by then this has already had to
happen multiple times
first time seeing the structure so
that's kind of a that's kind of how it
happened for me
it started they started showing up in my
dreams really heavily
making contact and then i started asking
for more contact like i wanted to see it
yeah to ground it as real
and now i know it's just as real
tangible as us here and our phones and
everything it's it's like the government
us government's acknowledged it
yeah yeah yeah i'm like i'm with you i
mean my
experiences were you know very similar
early on
getting into it and wanting it to be
real and then having
countless like you i mean i had too much
you know too many
experiences for it not to be i had one i
was trying to make contact in a
in a and i seen one and a sonic boom
happened
like it was like on the news or
something like i don't know but part of
me is like damn did i cause that like
did they
come in here and do do that like just
really loud boom and i seen the ship and
like it was heard for for like you know
40 miles or something at least
probably more and it was on the news and
um just so i remember seeing this in the
news
so many uh weird i've seen
split have you seen a fleet yet like
more like
most i've seen is two two is the most
i've seen
yeah what about during the day have you
seen them during the day
during the day so get a star map where
you can hold it up and look
and figure out where the platings are or
you know the uh uh orion i'm really
connected with both of those as well
and and and you know put your intention
on that during the day
as far as that that area send those
thoughts and let's not meditate
and uh it's dude i've seen them during
the day like you know what i'm saying
having having those night experiences
are
awesome as well because they're light
but it's kind of hard to figure out what
they look like but during the day like
you can see a lot more like shape and
structure and stuff and
i think in our minds too it's like well
it's easier to see them during
during the night not really many people
catch them during the day but
when you take that same intention that
you do at night during the day
you can have just as much as uh you know
beautiful insane encounters where you
can see more
maybe there was a a fleet there you just
couldn't see it you can only see the one
that was lit up and just because it was
at night you couldn't see it but
totally man yeah it's uh amazing it
changes your life man
yeah i've got a picture i can send send
to you
for sure i've tried to record them like
but it's like always spur of the moment
and like do you be in the moment
and do you communicate or let me get my
phone and take a picture of you you know
what i'm saying it's like that's it
i mean if we look at celebrities
celebrities even talk about that how
like
if they're at a concert and people are
like hey man i just want to get to know
you shake your hand and people like hey
let me get a selfie
and they get a selfie they just walk off
it's like and the celebrities are like
man i don't even want to
meet fans anymore because they just want
a picture i want to know your name
justin bieber's big on that
even with the paparazzi you let me put
the cameras down let's have a
conversation what's your name dude
you're like taking pictures up he's like
what are you
doing man like come on let's let's talk
let's build let's
and so i would you know i would feel
that they feel the same way
let's not talk we'll talk but let me get
a camera first so i can show everybody
you know what i'm saying
and and show everybody there is ways to
show everybody it's through
ce5 meditation diet you know all of
these things where you can actually have
your own encounter you know
yeah this happens to a lot of people
i've heard in a lot of stories like
where you know people have asked me too
because i only have one picture out of
all the encounters they're like
why didn't you shoot a video why didn't
you shoot it yeah it's like in the
moment
you don't you're just you just you're
just
taken by the moment the one time i got a
picture was
we were actually set up with a tripod me
and a friend taking astrophotography of
the milky way in hawaii
and she said star family i would love it
if you fly through the middle of the
milky way for one of her shots
yeah just these are well connected to it
too so she asked that
no you take the shot it's 30 second
exposure hit the button
with the naked eye though right yeah no
we probably would have seen this one but
we didn't
we were looking at a different part of
the sky when we got back and looked at
the pictures
we saw that we captured it come come
into frame turn
right through the middle of the milky
way as she had said and then out of
frame
i said but every other time though could
a video could have done it was close
and just you just don't go there the
same thing happened with me when i was
free diving with humpback whales i was
like
i was like i gotta turn my gopro on i'm
underwater and like that charmer group i
was like no
i just just took it in the middle it's
almost two like
i tell my dog i told my daughter about
this she was a teenager and
you know they got friend drama and stuff
i said you got to watch out now because
people try to like record your
conversations and stuff so they can show
other people
they're trying to get you to like gossip
about somebody and record it and show up
look i told you he was talking about you
like
you gotta be careful with people these
days and so set up hidden cameras so
again with our star family he's like hey
man i want to hang out and you're really
like secretly trying to record the
conversation to show people you know
it's like
it really is that kind of you know
relationship
at least it turns into that you know
versus like oh i just want to get you on
the camera so i can show people on the
internet that you're real
you know it's like hey if they want to
know that i'm real put it in your songs
tell them how to do it in the songs talk
about it on the podcast and if it's in
them to
encounter then they'll come out for a
ce5 they'll
meditate and try to contact us and and
know for themselves
you know video can be faked anyway most
of the you know it's hard to tell what
what's real
and what's fake when it comes to a lot
of this is how but you going out
having you know initiating contact
yourself through meditation
and they start telepathically
communicating with you literally hey
look over here here we are
where boom oh wow i see you like that
kind of stuff exactly how this happened
i need you to look up dude i had one i
was driving and when this stuff became
real to me i'm driving from my job like
12 hours a day and i'm looking up the
whole time while i'm driving just
through the country and
enjoy the planes of georgia and all that
and i'm just going
and i see a jet flying and
and they said uh so yeah that that they
told me
in my mind you know that jet is going
flying over here to to scare us and you
know make us leave and so i looked at
the jet and then i looked exactly where
the jet was heading
and it was a ufo during the day and it
just it let me see it it blinked at me
during the day
and it vanished and the jet was headed
directly towards it
it was like so i seen the jet first and
said yeah the jets heading over here to
scare us out look over here
looked over boom there it was blinked
during the day it's gone
you know james gilliland who's uh
somebody's work i really appreciate and
has the east city ranch and
teaches contact and communion and stuff
like that with
enlightened beings um he had he has a
story that just blew my mind
you know he says he was in in his home
meditating
and he was contacting the beings and i
think was the palladians and stuff and
he would have his open
visions and go in deep in meditation and
communicate with him and talk
talk with him and stuff he said his
sister comes home
and she parks her car and she runs
inside she says james james
there's a ufo directly above the house
so he's in
sitting in lotus posture on his bed
having this this uh
conversation with these beings and
they're hovering right
above the house as he's having this
conversation with them as the ships come
in
that's just amazing you know yeah yeah
it's awesome
yeah i mean we're becoming a galactic
civilization again
on earth and and just the the human mind
can be fragile so it's been a
process of increased sightings like the
mufon network for example
all the documented cases that have been
submitted to them have just been
on a rise for years like exponential
growth and number of sightings
and then again with the us government
announcing it in 2017 and again in 2020
and then uh i don't know if you heard
this one that the
israel is really um space chief
for 30 years it was like yeah there's
already mars on base
and there's they're in contact with et's
and you just
but of course they just write him off as
a quack but
yeah there's a um somebody mentions the
1994 um okay cody he says
have either of you heard about the fleet
of spaceships that showed up at an
elementary school in africa
they talked to over 60 kids telling them
they were
they were destroying the planet i think
it happened in the 60s or 70s
and somebody else says yeah it was 1994
in zimbabwe
that's that's amazing have you watched
that footage in those interviews with
those kids
yeah yeah because yeah the beans
actually get off the ship and come out
and communicate with them telepathically
and
all the kids drew pictures of it and
stuff like that oh yeah
yeah that was a cool one yeah because
these kids are still around well they're
adults now but
they're telling their stories yeah that
was a cool one yeah yeah
yeah truth to strength fiction man oh
yeah that's it
that's it it is and just just do our
best to
enjoy it and keep a positive mind yeah
we have to ascend to take our place
amongst the stars man that's just what
it is there's a there is a there's a
code of conduct there's a spirituality
that we're not welcome there right now
you know unless you do the
you know the inner work and uh in a sin
and overcome your
animalistic nature where you can
actually hold a conversation
and not try to film you know have hidden
cameras set up while you're talking like
you just want to make contact just so
that
because you want to make contact kind of
thing and you know weird thing
you know like i said at the beginning
like you know getting into like really
dark occultism and stuff and summoning
demons because i wanted to be friends
and that kind of thing and
kind of come full circle for me now you
know and like maybe i was doing it the
wrong way or trying to contact the wrong
entities but i've seen like back then it
was dark it was some dark stuff that i
opened up too but now everything's just
been so beautiful and
all and wonder and creativity and love
and peace and take care of your body and
take care of the planet and it's just
been all
just beautiful messages and and things
that come across through this kind of
um spiritual lifestyle and connection
with those those beings
guardian angels yeah and friends told me
the term divine entourage
yeah so it would be your your angels
your et's all the whole
the whole thing is like our we've got
this entree that's good in mind
i set that intention whatever you are
you know i'm open
so long as you ain't trying to hurt me
possess me and those kind of things
we close the door and all that and
everything is like from the heart up
you know what i'm saying so and that's
allowed me to have
so many beautiful experiences man that
that actually show up
and say there's a difference and we got
to be clear on this that you know we go
into the dream state and that kind of
thing and
and and you know communicate and and
those kind of things too but it's
different when they show up
with your eyes open and you can see them
in the ships and and
they actually come into our reality and
the angels can do that if they're like
they totally can
if they're communicating with you
telepathically and in the dream state
and
in the ethers they have enough power to
show up
i will say that i believe that our
government is at war with them
and just like that jet was going to try
to you know scare it out the sky or
whatever
their you know i think that if they if
they're physical ships they
you know they they run the risk of
getting shot down you know and uh
and things so we have i think we have to
be careful and
you know when the time's right they'll
they'll appear and say hello because
i don't think that the government really
wants the truth of what exactly they're
letting a little bit out here and there
um but the truth of what's really going
on and as far as that being said i
believe that they are the good guys
and we are the bad guys at least our
government and
people that are running the globe right
now yeah you know the
the beings i've been in contact with in
dreams and telepathically and awaken
life
it's it's only been good supportive
and most importantly self-empowering
information it's not
anything that's putting the power into
them yeah they're not like
yeah we're saying we're your gods we're
your creators a lot of people get scared
of that a lot of christians too
those you know they're trying to trick
you into worshiping them no they're not
they're trying to trick me into taking
care of my damn body you know what i'm
saying that's it
back to simplicity yeah yeah because
what i found is that
you know it was a time period when i was
really like wanted to see them
and i wouldn't see them my like was
coming from a place of like
almost as needing yeah and so
the more you relax around it and of
course release fear around it
the more likely to show up usually when
you're not expecting it sometimes
unless you do these ci5 like events of
course that's come with a strong
beautiful intention
but yeah if there's any kind of
neediness that's that's uh
disempowered yeah they won't show up
yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah there's a child like
wonder and expectancy that comes with it
it's almost like placebo like if you
want it it's there for you
but how bad and why do you want it comes
into play too
you know yeah that's it so man i enjoyed
this conversation bro we covered a lot
of good topics and
and i love the you know the dream stuff
is right up my alley the ufo alien stuff
creating the the reality that you want
for yourself that comes from
tapping into the dream state and you
have courses and a bunch of other cool
stuff
where you teach people how to do this go
ahead and give your website and
where people can follow your work app
yeah so website is soul dash dreamers
so soul dreamers within s dot com
you can just go there and you'll see a
link to the course or forward slash
activated dash dreamer
and then you have you have the dream
course which is
what yeah i just have the one course
right now uh
i'll probably i'm going to create some
audio some free
meditations and stuff to connect with
et's that's a work in progress but right
now i just have the course
on dreaming it's called the activated
dreamer it's a master class
um 10 modules then also a separate mini
course as part of that is on lucid
dreaming specifically
so it goes all into history of dreams
ancient cultures and dreams and how they
use dreams
um and uh like the egyptians for example
saw dreams
as the time as when our eyes are open is
when we're dreaming like we're saying
earlier
that's when our eyes are open so yeah
just go into all the history about
dreaming
power of dreams how to interpret them
and start
utilizing them for guidance every day
wow
good stuff man dude thanks for coming on
i really enjoyed our talk and uh we have
to do it again bro
thanks so much yeah i look forward to it
it's been a good time so thanks so much
thanks for everyone that listened to our
conversation for sure
any blessings bro blessings alone
tyrone brown ladies and gentlemen
good talk good talk good talk listen
this stuff is right up my alley i love
it especially the e.t talk
i love the uh the et talk i love it when
i say it doesn't matter for ct talk i
love it when the supernatural becomes
natural
when the the veil is then when
we go over there you know we we every
night when we sleep
um we try to make content contact we go
into
you know communicate and do all types of
of things in in the dream state and and
there's just
you run the risk of doing a lot of stuff
just activating the imagination and
creating that stuff in your mind
but i think the proof in the pudding is
when they show up
with your eyes open or you're able to
call in ships where you're able to make
contact and those kind of things
changes the game it becomes more than
just something in your head or your
imagination or
something you heard in a movie you're
actually initiating
contact with the angels and they really
exist
it's not even in your head heaven is not
someplace you go when
when you die heaven is really a place
that exists beyond the stars
and these beings travel back and forth
from heaven to earth carrying messages
and essences and a lot of other things
as well so to know that that we have a
relationship or we can have a
relationship with them
uh it's very interesting and uh you know
a lot of that stuff again in the movies
we find out like listen this stuff's
real
been told that it wasn't real
supernatural abilities
um you know the spirit world angels
demons all of that stuff everything that
you can imagine
is real if you can dream it if you can
believe it
you can receive it it can it can even if
it's just for you
even if you were by yourself and you're
the only one who's seen it only one who
who believes it it can show itself to
you
but i'm not just in the dream state
physical manifestations
we've forgotten we've forgotten how
connected we are with nature
with the entities with with the fairies
and and gnomes and those things like all
of that stuff is real and we've
forgotten it we've becoming
we've become so technical
technologically
uh dependent and uh and self-sufficient
and so that that symbiotic relationship
that our ancestors had
has been related really uh you know
released and
um forgotten so movies like that trigger
something deep down within your dna
trigger something deep down within your
dna
angel says can you talk about accessing
your akashic records
well um i feel like that's where you
know all of this stuff is stored all the
information and we get downloads and we
can
actively go in listen when you go in
through
the levels of meditation to go in and
receive information
from your higher self the version of you
that exists in the akashic records in
the heavens whatever you want to call
the names does
don't matter you don't have to get the
names right um
but you go in with that and you have to
get the intention right i'll say that
names don't mean anything it's the
intention but you go in to
receive higher information higher wisdom
that the angels are
keepers of you'll encounter angels in
that realm too but
there's inspiration there's creativity
for songs for movies for
ideas for humanity and whoever is
willing to do the inner work to go in
and receive them you'll
you'll get them you'll be trusted with
the information to bring it back
so you can go in intentionally through
lucid dreaming through breath work and
through meditation we do that
i do this on on sunday morning so we
just started this last sunday
part of the the mystic circle and so
it's one thing that we do we go in
through breath work but
we make sure that it's not just about
you know doing these exercises it's
literally about going in
so i leave those classes if you want to
be a part of it it's ten dollars a week
and i do it every sunday
nine a.m central but you get access to a
bunch more for that price too
other people are going to be leading
sessions and breath work and uh
conscious breathing conscious movements
prayer sessions
all kind of stuff that we're bringing to
the table all of our
events and webinars all that stuff
you'll get but
even if it was just for the sunday
morning breath work that i'm leading up
you want to be a part of that i'd love
to see you the mysticcircle.net you can
get access to last week's was really
good
and so tapping in through the initiation
through the breath work and through
the green light and connecting so it's
been amazing so if you're interested in
that
make sure that you you check it out so
the mysticcircle.net
with that i'ma say peace and shalom guys
i really enjoyed this conversation
reading the chat here you guys brought
some great points out
um man i did i think i did a five hour
stream
uh tuesday i did two and a half hours
with the guest well i did like almost
two and two hours or something like that
with the guests but it was
by myself i kept going two and a half
hours started
interacting and then the
stream messed up restarted my computer
came back for another
two and a half hours it's five hours of
streaming tuesday
there's some good stuff and i missed it
so i was able to interact with the chat
q
a and let you guys kind of ask questions
and direct the stream which is always
fun
always fun so with that i'm gonna say uh
peace and blessings man i hope to see
you sunday morning
and uh over there on our platform the
mystic circle the mysticcircle.net
um one more question here
julian says hey how does one know the
difference between
angels and other beings or are they one
in the same they're one and the same
for sure because the word angel only
means messenger
so to say that there was a type of being
called an angel
it's just a title so
again with understanding the messages
a demon can be an angel too because a
demon is a messenger
they carry messages and there's
there's you open yourself up to these
beings by the the type of activity and
the type of life that you live
on the earth if you're sinning if you're
lying if you're cheating
well there are beings that carry
messages and you open yourself up to
that vibrational frequency the lower
lower level stuff
if you're helping people doing arms
prayer meditation cleaning up your diet
all of that stuff there are other beings
that take notice and they'll be around
you and be on that frequency as well
and they carry messages too and so the
word angel just
simply means messenger so whether that's
a palladian that carries a message
whether it's
arcturians or fairies gnomes elves they
all have
they they're all encoded with with
messages and with
um they have roles they have things that
they do just like we do
so um hope that helps so don't don't
think we we have this weird notion of
thinking of angels and demons and
there's two beings there's angels and
there's demons
but even with that let's just go with
that idea then you have the seraphim you
have the
cherubim you have the the malakim you
have
the raphaim there's all these different
types of angels you have
like even if we're looking into like the
book of revelation you got the four
living creatures and
i mean there are so many different
entities um
and then demons you have beelzebub you
have
unclean spirits you have evil spirits
you have archons like there's so when
this hierarchy of
entities exists there's not just angels
and demons
we tend to say whether is it is this
good for me or is this bad it's just
positive or negative
and then so when we talk about angels
and demons most of us are thinking about
what is good and what is bad an angel is
good a demon is bad
that's not necessarily the case for sure
because there there's
lessons and things that demons are uh
loosed upon your life that are gonna
teach you
a lesson that only they can teach you
when you fall
pride cometh before fall when you get
prideful
you get tripped up and a spirit is
usually loosed
to be upon you paul talked about it he
had a thorn in his flesh
it says a messenger of satan that god
would not take away
god allowed that messenger of satan to
buffet him
to to buffer him to make him better
to keep him humble so we have to
make sure that we're doing the inner
work and make sure that we don't
submit ourselves to anything against
god's perfect will for our lives which
is to to be blessed to prosper to be
have a sound mind to be successful
to not lack in any any level whether
it's finances whether that's
mental stability whether that's your
spiritual life your relationships we're
supposed to be blessed and everything
and so
um making sure that we are
responsible with our time with our
energy with our efforts
to help people but not to start
you know stir up stuff to
live in the flesh which is your
animalistic egoic nature
to hurt people to lie cheat and still
make other people's
experiences on this earth harder when
you do
that you open up yourselves to those
lower level
entities so there's a there's a lot of
other ways but if you
James 4 7 in the bible is my one of my
first scriptures that i learned
i had to learn submit yourselves to god
therefore resist the devil
and he will flee make sure that you're
submitted to god in every area of your
life
don't let any judgment any ridicule any
backbiting all that stuff which is of
your lower nature
which is of your father the devil those
people who are into that and that stuff
rules them they gossip they slander they
want to see you bad misery loves company
make sure that's not you make sure
you're doing the inner work
and you're submitting your your desires
and your intentions and
everything before the throne of grace
and having
your old fleshly nature be
renewed and transformed by the renewing
of your mind as you're being transformed
into the image of christ
which is christ consciousness which is
responding with love
which is radical acceptance which is you
know
showing grace and love to those who
quite frankly don't deserve it
that's what it is and so and uh yeah you
find yourself in a really
cool place everything opens up to you
you're not a victim anymore
you're a victor with that i'ma say peace
and shalom i'm gonna teach you how to do
that at least how i do it
and uh share that with you so i got a
lot of stuff i'm working on
to teach us how to move and articulate
and flow around through this spiritual
existence that you are not just stuck in
this
you're not a meat puppet you are a
luminous being
you're a light being experiencing
life on earth 100
essence 100 spirit and soul and 100
human at this moment and there's rules
and laws of how
we engage with the spirit world and with
one another
and everything that we do has spiritual
implications
but with that being said i'ma say peace
and shalom hope to see you in the mystic
circle
been working hard on that the
mysticcircle.net go over there and check
it out sign up for a seven day free
trial
with adam and say peace and shalom we'll
do it again very soon peace peace
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