UFOs, Aliens & The Occult  David Curtis
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UFO encounters and it got some really
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know those are my experiences my
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Cassidy and some other people who say
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without further ado David Curtis you
joining us from Australia is that right
brother no from England England the
accident right welcome to the show man
yeah so I guess after I did those
interviews with Kerry Cassidy I guess
you found out my work and seeing what I
do and I reached out to me wanting to be
a guest and showed me your material some
of the other interviews that you've done
and I kind of went in and we're just
skipping around throughout the
interviews because it's a lot of
material there and I went right to the
place I needed to go talking about the
white room and the UFO encounters and
things like that and I thought I have a
listen to the entirety of it but I
thought that it sounded mostly like
pleasant experiences that it was
something that maybe is welcomed versus
being something of negative or being
tormented or something like that if you
want to set that up kind of go into some
detail I'm interested to hear the whole
story man of some of these encounters
that you've had okay so I was born in
March the 1st 1945 at the end of the
World War two and I was living in Oxford
and I was brought up in a non-religious
house so things like good and evil God
soul Jesus they didn't mean anything to
me no so there was no interior tea you
know there was nothing inside and my
parents they just lived and they died
and that was it really you know they
weren't materialist they weren't
atheists they were just ordinary people
working ordinary jobs but they had no
interest in religion that was the
society they were brought up in so any
at the age of four I'm lying in bed and
I see some flickering lights by the
ceiling and I'm kind of fascinated by
them and I feel my body's expanding into
the room so it's getting bigger and
bigger and bigger I get a bit freaked
out and put my head under the pillow and
I see these entities running around so
that sounds like a typical abduction I
have no memory of an abduction but
something strange was going on with my
with myself and maybe that was the
beginnings of some kind of inner world
you know and in a world that was not in
my family and I never told my family and
I wasn't particularly frightened so I
didn't tell my parents about it so then
I move on to 15 III I joined my sister
who's married to an American in
Portsmouth New Hampshire so I go over
there I go to high school and he he's
just come out of the Air Force and he's
a lab technician in the local hospital
and he gets me a job in the Air Force
Base while I'm working in the Air Force
Base this is 1961 in the fall and right
when I'm working there the most
important UFO abduction cases being
investigated right at that moment in
that particular Air Force Base and it's
the Betty and Barney Hill abduction and
that and John fuller wrote a book called
the interrupted journey in about 1967 so
I'm at a place that's very strategic
it's the first major abduction in the
50s they called it contact II so like
George Adamski would say no he's a
contact here with Venus but since Betty
and Barney Hill it became abduction so
that was like I had this four-year-old
thing it's kind of like you tick another
box
it's like suddenly I'm right at the
center you know there's a maneuver like
on the chess board and I'm maneuvered to
go over to America I believe it's all
orchestrated I believe that it's a what
I call a meta programming by alien
intelligence which I have contact with
direct contact with and I didn't know
then of course but looking back I can
see that yeah I life I haven't been the
mover of my life I haven't been the kind
of ego center that's in control I'm just
kind of following I'm not following
orders in fact I feel very free iterated
person but I feel that somehow I'm kind
of receptive and adaptive and I've been
to India I've been all over I've lived
in about 50 different places right so
let me ask you this so is it this inward
is it this inward knowing like because
you said you don't feel forced it's like
you know in your heart of hearts that
there's this divine purpose that you're
here for there's as part of your journey
and if you submit to it amazing things
begin to happen your life begins to be
orchestrated by essentially the hand of
the divine or you can kind of step away
and say no no I'm not going to entertain
that I'm just going to do what I want to
do that's the type that's what you're
talking about correct yeah right I can
go into that well 15 my sister and
brother-in-law they go to California I
get kind of abandoned so I'm literally
on my own of 1516 and I'm with an
American family and then I get a job in
a summer camp and I literally have no
money and nowhere to go so I've got to
literally ask people to look after me so
I get picked up by this American family
and I'm taken to New York to
Poughkeepsie which is about 50 miles
north of New York City on the Hudson
River and I live with a family the man
is an IBM person he's a
and he's he's got many patents on on
computers and when I leave high school
he gets me a job on the Apollo rocket so
I'm doing them some basic work in
working on modules and microscopes on
the Apollo rocket and then I go to the
State University of New York at Stony
Brook Long Island near Manhattan and I'm
into classical music but there's a rock
concert and it involves a soft machine
and Jimi Hendrix Experience
so my first kind of like opening into
the rock scene and the hippie scene and
counterculture was Jimi Hendrix but as I
say I went to the concert and for
whatever reason I decided to drop out of
college and I wasn't part of the
counterculture I wasn't aware of hippies
only like Jimi Hendrix but I wasn't
aware of the counterculture and the the
guy that the young man that I was like
friends with in this IBM house he had
gone to Vietnam and he came back from
Vietnam
and he had a really good Corvette you
know super Corvette car and he said you
want to meet him if he Leary and I
didn't know about drugs or Timothy Leary
so he takes me out to this house Timothy
Leary is only living about 20 miles away
in in Mill Brook and I go out there we
drive into this big estate and there's
this big wooden house with psychedelics
painted all over the wood the house and
there's all these people freaked out
that they're just lying around quite
free and we have a conversation with
Timothy Leary but of course I don't know
anything about Timothy Leary so anyway
in the local paper it shows Leary and
some friends throwing flowers at the
policemen at the police station because
they used to raid raid the house all the
time no for like drugs sex rock and roll
that kind of thing so anyway I I'm in
I'm in Poughkeepsie I was married I left
my marriage I left the you
University I don't know anything about
UFOs spirituality or anything like that
and I get this room and I just had the
change of consciousness I don't know
where it came from it just like took
over and I describe it as walking around
the town and it was like a gothic is
very Edgar Allen Poe
very gothic very shadow world I like
going out in the evenings I like going
out before dawn in the early morning but
I wasn't aware of magic or anything like
that and things started to happen I
started to meet people I would never
have met if I wasn't in that stay so
doors so yes we're going to some kind of
pickup sorry
so doors were opening and I end up going
to new pole stay across the river across
the Hudson River and and I start mixing
with hippies and I get into that scene
the hippie scene and in a new pulse
about 10 or so years later David Wilcock
goes to new polls and the the the the
the place I was at before Stony Brook
University dan burisch and I think
Project Camelot interviewed dan burisch
and he plays a major part in my life not
not personally but what he revealed
about the looking glass yellow pew the
book to do with Orion and I get very
connected to a Ryan and I'm given a pew
in the vision so it links him with where
I was at the University with dan burisch
and then later with David Wilcock I meet
a friend in Oxford and he's the world's
he's now the world's scholar Ahn
jung-geun synchronicity so I've got
synchronicity coming in with David
Wilcock and the UFO at Stony Brook with
dan burisch so it's like setting the
scene if you will
so I'm living in new post and I come
back to England and I go off to to India
and I spend some time with the Lama
there in the Himalayas and I can kind of
quick forward to 1976 when I'm in Oxford
and I'm living in the house of Lawrence
of Arabia and above my window is a blue
plaque and they put blue plaques on
houses where very famous people live and
that was TE Lawrence Lawrence of Arabia
and that was 1976-77 well in that year a
very famous ufologist john emac who
wrote a book called abduction from
harvard university he wrote a definitive
book a biography of TE Lawrence Lawrence
of Arabia the very year I was in that
house and that's where I had my first
UFO experience what was that like your
first encounter Yeah right so I I'm I'm
in the darkroom I'm looking out of the
window in a dark room and I see this
light above some trees in the garden I
have no knowledge of UFOs I haven't seen
any movies on UFOs so I'm really I don't
even know it's a UFO it's just a light
in the sky so I'm sitting there in the
very deep stay and suddenly the ligh
penetrates through my left eye there's
no light there's no beam from the light
but I know the light goes right into my
left eye into my brain right into my
psyche and I I'm very I'm very surprised
I don't know what it is I'm very
interested and it moves to the right so
it's going from the left eye to the
right eye and I think you know I wonder
what's going on it's very deep
experience it's slightly troubling but
I'm not really that frightened
and then it goes back to thee it was
going to go back to the left eye and I
knew something radical was going to
happen to me so I kind of like got up
and drew the curtains and I felt like it
was trying to move me into a hypnotic
stay and maybe take over and just like
in my four-year-old experience although
I was expanding into the room I stopped
the process and put my head under the
pillow and even when I've taken
psychedelics I've never let go of my
body
I've never what you call had an
authentic out or the experience I've
seen to shut down the process and that's
always been the case whenever I've been
confronted with I don't know what it is
but I've had contact with a certain kind
of power it's not it's an invisible
power I'll go into that it's an
invisible power and I haven't given it a
name I don't know what it is I have
never given it a name and I linked it to
UFOs but this power is like coming into
the room and you don't want to connect
with that power you know it's there but
you don't want to know what it is you
don't want to because it really is power
itself if you wanna know it's it's like
if you take all the concepts of power
political power power of the ego power
of science power of technology even
power of UFOs if you take all of that
and put it into an essence and call it a
power that has no name in the gnostic
tradition they call it the unknown
father in tibetan was in buddhism they
call it the one mind in h and egypt they
called it fo for the one it's the one
it's the emptiness actually entered that
now I've actually been into the
emptiness but it's not the power itself
is a reflection of that power is not the
power beyond the body in the gray
it's not the power beyond the planet its
but it's the same power but it's like
the moon reflects wow that's exactly
what I was thinking as you're speaking
good because I've got a very important
information about the moon recently
revealed to me and about the about the
moon and the earth and the matrons
anyway so I'm in the room I have this
experience it penetrates into my
interior life is spanning my memory is
scanning my personality is it's it's
intrusive it's a very profound
experience but Mike the end result is I
don't feel it was bad yeah though is
very intrusive I don't feel like it
didn't it wasn't meant to make me feel
that I didn't want further experience
did it feel good was it euphoric at all
a lot of people talk about when having
those similar encounters or even though
they're strange other-worldly it's
euphoric you feel relaxed you feel like
you've had soma or something right like
did you feel that at all with it
intoxicating well not not the first
experience was him but I I can that's
7677 and as I say it links him with
Johnny Mack at Harvard well you see
Timothy Leary was at Harvard and Ram
Dass Richard he was a Harvard and they
both visited the larva that I visited in
the Himalayas near Tibet so you just lay
right behind him maybe right so if I go
forward to 1984 in Oxford and I call it
the powerhouse can I'll go into the
power I call it the power house you go
you go through the door and there are
two black pillows I it was owned by a
college in Oxford and this lady that
brentd out rooms and I had the gara I
had the garret with a big window at the
top on the roof and I looked over the
valley and the hills in
and I call it my powerhouse and there
were two black pillars but I had no
knowledge of occultism or magic I was
getting into that a little later with a
lot of people in the Golden Dawn and
Crowley but I didn't think anything of
it you go through the black pillars so
through my life I have the spontaneous
feeling to open up the curtains or look
out of the window just a spontaneous
feeling and I might contact UFOs so this
is my first contact my second contact
with UFOs so I opened up the curtains
and I just had this feeling to look to
my left there's a light look to my right
as a lie in the gray skies it's a gray
sky two lights I write this play about
two UFOs in dialogue and it's as if
they're the UFOs of thought forms having
telepathic conversation I'm so freaked
out by that manuscript I literally throw
it away I don't even get into it I'm so
freaked out by air and I liken it to
like if you're in the house with two
spies from mi5 or CIA and they're
talking about very important information
you don't want to know that no if they
know you've got him yeah it's important
powerful information and I thought I was
tuning into very powerful information
and maybe I was meant to do it but I
didn't feel I felt it was overpowering
you know like I was tapping into some
power that freaked me out just as it is
as a child then the next thing that
happens is that I'm sitting and it's in
the daytime I'm looking over the hills
and I feel this energy coming over the
hill I can't explain it's a sunny day
and it's just this energy that I call
power that's why I call it the power
house it's this power that has no
dimensions I can't tell you what it is I
just know it's this power
hmm
know what's happening I'm looking at the
hills and it comes over the hill I can
feel it coming over the hill getting
closer it's coming across the
countryside and I knew that when it
touches that house it would wipe me out
so again I'm having that feeling of
being taken over but this power I didn't
see anything I didn't have anything in
my mind but it it it's hard to explain
it's just this invisible presence what I
mean what do you feel like though it is
that the euphoria when it comes is it a
good thing or is it scary and good I
mean no it's like when I was a child
it's quite simple it's like you don't
want to do it if somebody says if
somebody says yeah motorbike I'm gonna
go no hundred miles an hour no no I'm
not gonna do that
magnify that it was kind of a it was
quite simple it's just like a choice you
know when I was I didn't have to do it
yeah so no you're offering is power
you're offering to take me on this trip
out of my body I'm sorry but I don't
want to go your land you know and I've
said I had UFOs within 10 feet of me so
I've had opportunity to connect but you
never you never had like the physical
like getting get on board or nothing
like that but you felt like you could
have right let's put it this way I think
there's a reason why I don't want to be
taken over it's to do with independence
is to do with freedom is to do with
maturing and getting integrity getting
my own foundation getting my own
strength
now throughout my life I've made contact
with a lot of famous people a lot of
powerful people gurus and pop stars and
all that I've made contact with I've had
a chance to be published by Oxford
University Press
at the highest level I've never accepted
any of that I was I could have been in
the number one video on the top level
television in this famous light pop
artists right this woman wanted me to be
her mad man in the whole video I didn't
do it so there's some level of power
there's some level of power that's not
only invisible from another planet from
another dimension but there's power in
the world it's invisible
you know you think of politicians and
you can think of very rich people very
the the Illuminati the movie makers my
friends the world Scoleri goes around
all around the world he's you know there
it's like a think tank I mean it's on a
very high level but you see I don't want
that what about for good though using it
for good you were meant in the
Illuminati I mean they just released a
video like two days ago of one of the
biggest pop stars in the world right now
a guy called the weekend somebody was
filming his set and on the screen behind
him it flashed the word Satan really
fast and they had a record it and they
freeze framed it and so it's like they
are getting power there's a power out
there you can use it to tap into it for
good or for bad but you have to kind of
pay homage to a god or Thoth or look at
you know do we look at the people who
who've kind of went before so if we're
talking about Crowley or these type of
people
but after and it could be definitely
used for bad I think that's the most
what we see going on the Illuminati and
things like that seats of power but I
think it could be used for good too like
if we follow that intuition that
spiritual guidance because in our link
that to this because a lot of what
you're talking about
sounds like the pranayama spirit that's
just permeating through all life the
Kundalini the Holy Spirit it sounds very
much like this in these encounters that
people have had with the awakening of
the Kundalini the baptism of the Holy
Spirit feels like this intense fire
there's
fear there but it's a good it it looks
over their life knows everything about
you loves you it's okay it cleans out
all the wrong and and set you on that
life journey and it sounds very similar
to that's why I have to bring this up
with the UFO experiences because if
we're to me the UFOs are the angels of
the holy books that's just the angels of
the creators um what would you say to
that
yeah well in Union in union psychology
you know we have a body there's a spirit
and there's the psyche right where we
dream and have visions and out of the
body in true psychedelics all of that
now that's not necessarily the
dimensions you know the spirits of
dimension the bodies of dimension but
the psyche what they call Maya the
illusory body they say it can be like a
size of a sesame seed just a seed
or it can expand to fill the universe by
the Atma and the and and Brahman than
the Atma so in a sense the psyche is not
is in the one sense nothing and
everything right so if in the psyche you
meet entities right you meet entities
now they could be UFO entities there can
be angelic they could be satanic and
I've met quite a priority I've met
hundreds of entities I've never spoken
to them or anything like that so I'm in
this powerhouse I wake up in the middle
of the night I'm looking at my body and
above my body is a a figure lying above
my body and it's the devil right so it's
Satan now in in the in in in Steiner
Rudolf Steiner anthroposophy he talks
about the guardian of the threshold I
see as the Kundalini right so it's
awakening of the Kundalini but it's at
Niki's has a dark force so they call
that carly the black goddess Carly but
it's lying above my body and I think
it's a beautiful-looking being right
it's a beautiful-looking being and so if
then I have another experience I'm lying
in bed I'm not awake I'm aware of myself
as a fetus I'm lying in the fetal
position and an a-hole appears in there
in the top of my head and my perception
goes out of the hole at the top of my
head and I see it I see like a sea of
infinity like blue and white waves going
off into infinity so I see that as the
the reptile in fact lizards and reptiles
have a third eye you can't see it's
atrophied it's there it's there in the
third eye so in the ancient world
everybody worshiped the dragon and and
that symbolizes the third eye but it
also symbolizes Draco the pole star in
Draco because that's your guide star so
when you travel by sea in the ancient
world everybody worshiped the dragon
because that was your guide in the
heavens so when you look you travel by
sea or you travel you're always looking
for the pole star in Draco now in in the
UFO community you know the reptilians
have got a bad press mm-hmm I've never
had that particular point of view now
the point is that when I go when I had
my first awakening in Poughkeepsie and I
dropped out of college and I fell I was
in this different kind of dimension in
the city different dimension the there
was a terrible aspect to that it was a
very very terrible aspect but as you say
it was also euphoric it was like double
edged it was like good and evil it was
like yangon
no so there was like a terrible thing
and yet at the same time it could switch
to something really euphoric really
ecstatic yeah so I've always had that
polarity in my set south where you know
I don't take sides I don't like to take
sides in politics I don't like to take
sides in the alien agenda and because
see Theory you know I like things to
happen to me good or bad I take the
rough and the smooth I don't kind of
like shy away from anything I've gone
very deep into things in myself and and
and I feel that's the fabric of the
psyche that that's like these entities
are really Maya and I'm afraid that a
lot of what people think about the UFO
and entities is really you might say
thought-forms
and they're they're both revealing
something to you and yet they're not to
be taken seriously they're not the
reality that they're not they're not
really to be confused with spirituality
spirituality is one thing that the
spirit Nirvana and whatever and and I
think that people are taking sides like
reptilians versus Nordea upset yo-yo
yeah that kind of thing but I I treat
the angelic I treat that kind of thing
as entities yeah who are who are
revealing they're bringing something to
you to reveal something to you and you
gotta weigh things up you've got a kind
of light weight way the good and the
evil you've got to like you know like
the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil you multiply and it says the tree
is to be desired to make you wise and
the serpent is your guy in the gnostic
tradition the serpent is your guide if
you look at the dow if you look at the
thou which is the way that is the dragon
path that is actually called the dragon
part because it's Draco is your guy in
lodestar your lodestar and in England we
call them ley lines okay I lived on the
ley line when I had my first UFO
experience in Oxford it was on the ley
line was on a dragging path so let me
ask you this when they're talking when
you're talking about being contacted by
the UFOs or you know getting that
intuition to go look out the window and
there they are
okay I've had very similar encounters
looking look up to the sky you
acknowledge that they're there they kind
of like wave at you and then they're
gone and then there's a download there's
a knowing there's an intrigue that's an
all and I think that promotes
spirituality for me I talked about a
little bit on carry show and probably
Camelot where creativity like that it
likes something within you and even the
God thing for me like there's some
people who the existence of aliens or
the are creators or these entities that
are out there that are good watching
over us or exist on other planes of
existence to them it kind of destroys
their faith in God but for me it makes
it more real it makes it tangible that
this isn't just a theory these aren't
you know these stories that were passed
down and God isn't so far away that we
can't interact with that realm but they
are watching over us there in outer
space they can come in and out of our
dimension there's so many layers to it
and so it builds my intriguing almost
gives credence to the beliefs that I
have about spirituality about God about
the ancient texts about the Bible those
type of things that all types kind of
fits in there but so when it comes to
being contacted and you said you've had
open contact for a long time that's one
thing that comes with these experiences
is open contact and you mentioned being
contacted but have you done the the work
on the other side where you go out in
what was there's a term called summoning
UFOs have you ever went out
and did did a ritual raise your hands
did a prayer whatever the case is in
contacted them and they have appeared to
you yeah well as I say that my first in
1976 in Oxford then I had my second
which was 1984 now if I go forward to
say 94 I'm living in the north of
England in Lancaster and I decide to go
out it's freezing cold in the winter I
go out and the consolation that's
closest to Britain that dominates the
sky is Orion right so I went out I
didn't know anything about Ryan at that
time so I look up into the sky and
there's Orion and just in the corner of
my eye I see something near the roof of
the house I look up Vanessa there's a
red all the size of a basketball so it's
a red or it's about ten feet away and
it's like a microphone like mesh you
know like a nightmare kind of thing and
it's just hovering there and it moves
very slowly second-by-second about 15
feet and it just disappears and I move I
moved from there for for a maybe a year
later I moved back to Oxford for a short
time to stay with my nephew he's just
finished University and artificial
intelligence so we've got a degree in
artificial intelligence he's got this
place in Oxford I spent some time there
with him and I decided to go out on the
porch so I go out on the porch and
there's this red orb again just this
sphere right in front of me and it's
just hovering there that's 200 miles
away from the formal one and then I
realized I'm being monitored right so
that's and that's connected to me
looking at Orion as well I was actually
spent time in the in a room just looking
at Orion happened snow worm that would
be that would be my fall
then then I move down south near London
where I'm living now and I decide to do
a UFO watch from my window so I open my
window and the Ryan's up in the sky just
above me and what happened in the
daytime my friend my friend who was T is
a professor of psychoanalysis and he's
as I say world scholar on Jung and
synchronicity he used he went to
Glastonbury which is very a cult Center
where the Ithorian legend is in when he
was at Oxford University took a couple
of years out and he got into Crowley and
he had the book Israel regardez
encyclopedia of the symbols of the
Golden Dawn that kind of thing so I
looked into the book I you know I I
looked into the book and I thought well
I look at a pentagram I just thought I'd
look at a pentagram and I thought well I
think I draw the pentagram outside the
window but when I had the thought to
draw the pentagram outside the window I
had never practiced anything magical
before and I don't know why I did that
I literally don't but when I get the
feeling to do something like that I just
do it so I go outside and I drew this
pentagram on the fluorine impasto I
think it was like a purple color so 9
o'clock at night I'm standing there and
just above me by the roof only about 20
feet away these five UFOs come over in
pentagram formation and they're they're
like very slow they're like hovering
just above my head and they're like five
disks and they were they they're the
most beautiful thing I've ever seen
there were golden golden orange so they
were like disks that were golden orange
and they seemed to be hovering just
above my head they didn't have any
dimension so it just like a kind of like
pure lie sir and they seemed to be
spinning and they just went in front of
me
and over the pine-trees and by the
military base so the military base plays
an important part in my life I had my
know I was in in my in imports in
Portsmouth New Hampshire that was a
military base to do with nuclear nuclear
warheads and now I'm I'm near a military
base here and the UFOs disappear near
there and it's on a hill so this is on a
hill so I move into the place I am now I
move from there to here and I'm sitting
11 o'clock at night and five UFOs appear
near the castle because when I'm looking
out now I can see the castle in my
window and these five UFOs appear in a
vertical formation they one two three
four five I look at them through my
binoculars and they look fairly solid
Meeny kind of red and then they
disappear one by one and then this
silver cylinder appears is big silver
cylinder and I look at the silver
cylinder and they could have gone into
the silver cylinder as a mothership but
I don't know and then I watch it go down
towards the ground
it goes down towards the ground then it
disappears where the military bases it
seems to go into the ground where the
military base is silver cylinder that
was my last experience in 2008 so you
know you gotta weigh these things up
you've got to like take all that aboard
yeah you know why they do you know you
think of what was the point of that you
know like I know about UFOs why wasn't
something more revealed if you know what
I mean you know why why that's why
because all of the encounters you've had
you've seen like you've had a lot I've
had a decent amount as well that changed
my life I mean
doing this show I'm pursuing this work
now because of these encounters and you
would think that you would have more
detail you would know the agenda you
would know the names that's why I always
always question a lot of the people who
go on shows and they claim to have it
all figured out like the information is
still slippery they're like I don't
think like people like you talk about
the war between the draconians and the
Palladian Zand the you know ryan council
of light are here to do this people seem
to have a lot of info infer as much
encounters that you've had and i've had
i would feel like and i guess i could
tell that you know you're telling the
truth some of these people i don't i
think there's a lot of people who are
just kind of making it up and they're
selling books and they're you know they
have an agenda there and it's hard to
trust them do you feel like that at all
- without being so without being without
calling names or trying to sound harsh
because maybe they do maybe they have
had that kind of contact but as much
contact as I've had I don't I can't just
take it and run with it you know well
you know in university I studied
philosophy and comparative religion and
I and I spent time in a Hmong Christian
monastery I met Lamas I met Krishnamurti
was a quite a famous guru I had very
important experiences with him honour
honour kind of transcendental level etc
now the point is that you know where's
the ground the thing I asked in in all
of this before not then where is the
ground is you know like you said the
Bible is it Buddhism well you see what
we call religion is like a hijack I see
religion is a hijack of Buddha and Jesus
for example Buddha and Jesus nobody
knows the background they appeared on
the scene they came out of nowhere on
the world scene on the world stage Jesus
the Buddha route 36 right they just
appear out of nowhere and they have a
small following of family friends it's
interesting both of them had family
friends and a few intimates right so
that was their first little circle with
family friends so there must have been
in the vicinity of their home now it's
interesting there's a very famous yogi
the most famous yogi of Tibetan Buddhism
is Milarepa and Milarepa his father died
and the uncle took over the property and
they just swindled the mother and the
son out of the property so the mother
sent him away to be trained as a as a
magician and he was trained as a
magician and he had the power to bring
hailstones he could create hailstones
and eat and he hailed he hailed the the
house where his uncle was living and it
just absolutely smashed it to pieces
I remember reading that because at that
very moment the hail came down in the
middle of the summer
it was wow man it just came right about
synchronicity man yes I would think so
min the Reaper what he did was he gave
up being a magician he came back to his
hometown he took up residence in a cave
and then he became enlightened he became
but like he became part of a Buddha a
part of the not the Buddha but he took
on the characteristics of the Buddha
so I'm saying there's a connection
between you know being grounded where
your home is it's quite literal you know
it's quite literal you're not with some
like Krishnamurti for example and a lot
of these gurus they create a sect live
in the middle of nowhere disconnected
from everything
and live in this fantasy world mm-hmm is
a fantasy world yeah it has no tangible
power definitely as it's just theories
grounded in knowledge is not grounded in
books is not grounded in study now all
my experiences are grounded in study I
studied everything going back to ancient
Egypt and I believe I've discovered the
kind of Egyptian template and it took 12
years between 2011 to 2003 to 2014 that
published 9 books right published 9
books and they contained all the
knowledge I gained out of my life on
this planet and I closed the book so I
no longer read book so I no longer take
in information I've closed the book and
now I'm learning to live I'm learning to
like live if you know what I mean but if
I lived in the medium of knowledge now
now I'm not saying I'm trying to be wise
but I'm learning to be wise yeah to what
well I think I kind of look at it I'm
very similar a situation where I don't I
don't do much reading either like people
send me all types of videos and they
want I've had some of some of Jordan
maxes some of Jordan Maxwell's people
offer to send me external hard drives
were like 4 terabytes of videos and
documentaries and information I don't
want it like I'm I'm I'm kind of like
you as far as like trying to and this is
where I put it
asking for wisdom on how to share the
knowledge that we've already studied how
can we bring this into practical
experience for ourselves and for people
to better the world around us and so as
far as like digging and reading and
studying and researchers now I'm all for
experience I love having a spiritual
encounter but um as far as like just
trying to dig to get to the bottom of it
I've seen so much as it is so it's like
asking for the wisdom on how to share
that
is that is that ring true well yeah go
into that now right the world around us
what we call society which I've never
been a part of I've never played the
game
I've never played the game I've never
played the mind game right or of
politicians or people that run
institutions all of that kind of stuff
you know we're we're at we're immersed
in language aren't we consciousness is
like language knowledge language with
language with cultural entities we're
human we're selves were a self that's
come into a body and what I call
consciousness is like a toolkit it's a
toolkit there's a reason why we have
this toolkit and you won't find that
reason in a book because the book itself
is the talk it's the toolkit so
everyone's got their language in the
family you've got your secret language
in the politics you've got you Subrosa
behind closed doors
you've got the secret language in the
Masons everybody's got their secret
language
right so the UFO they've all got their
little pockets of secret language right
what is the language what what is this
language of the human being now see what
I mean when moving outside of what we
think language is - what is language why
are we supposed to know we're here
you're here for 100 years now we've
basically lived to 100 years what are we
here for 7 billion people what on earth
are we doing here to go to the moon to
build an AI computer to paint pick the
Sistine Chapel to build the pyramids no
we're not here I don't think we're here
for that that's a symbol of what we're
here for
but what are we really here for that's
the wrapping what's inside the wrapping
that's what I'm trying to discover
that's why I'm trying to open
do you do you feel like this is some
type of testing ground what you see good
of of right and wrong and trying to
figure things out and almost like you
know the life of the life you live
determines the place that you spend
eternity if you want to call it that
well you see you can talk about the
planetary face and karma and character
and type so we're all types I'm an
artist I'm a poet I'm a philosopher I
can be all those types right that's the
entity reptilians are types Nordica
tight all these types fine they all in
body language and knowledge don't they
they're all sharing they want you to buy
into that knowledge buy into this
knowledge by this brand by this this
right and I'm saying that people have
that their concept of a secret language
people want to know think they've got
some real no real language they mean
what they say they're telling the truth
they really mean what they say but if
you don't have the truth how can you
speak the truth
what is the truth no so my my question
is I'm 73 the other day my gressil a bit
right question mark is at my age now
wisdom is true if wisdom is truth what
is that truth and who's going to reveal
it some entity or is there a Buddha and
Jesus you see who were Buddha where did
they come from what did they discover in
their cave in their temple in their
whatever and why did they come on alone
why were they alone when they came on
the world stage now they appear to be
alone and yet immediately the family is
there and the few people are there it's
very interesting kind of conundrum
because they're coming they're coming
out of nowhere which means something I
think it like Nirvana
you know Nirvana is supposed to be empty
and yet you have a diamond body you have
a diamond body you have the body of
wisdom the Dharmakaya and yes must be
empty and the Tibetan Buddhists say
nirvan there isn't the end you don't
just get enlightened and sit in no man's
land that's only the beginning you're
you're a free individual you've dropped
your calm where you drop your
conditioning you drop your whatever and
now you can be a free human being and
travel the dimensions that's what they
say whereas a lot of Buddhists say no
you get a let you know Zen Buddhism you
get Satori and that's the end of the
journey you've finished but in Tibetan
Buddhist and you're only beginning with
your body of wisdom it's not like you're
at the end and you pack everything in
you're only beginning the journey which
is eternity paradox between infinity we
live in an infinite universe and yet
we've got this concept of eternity the
circle the one the unknown God the
invisible God and that that power that I
talked about I did experience that I've
had I've experienced that I wrote it in
my book the one mind three months of
being in Satori emptiness Nirvana I have
experience in in after you've
experienced that you walk around with
the heightened sense of awareness right
for sometimes the things you see like
you say you felt like you was in a dream
state like the things were different you
looked at things they seemed different
your consciousness was shifted um I've
know people who they would vibrate their
bodies would they would get I think what
they call in in the Hindu tradition
kriyas for their body they would get
these jerks of energy throughout the day
in their body and I knew guys and
mid-conversation
which starts shaking you know from an
encounter that they had a week ago and
they're still vibrating off of that
frequency from that experience yeah well
that would be one of the seven
chakras you see but if you go out
through the hole in your head you go out
then you're in this emptiness I mean I
looked how when I had the experience of
the thousand petaled Lotus my perception
what they call consciousness
transference in the Tibetan in the
Secret Doctrine of the Tibetans and and
I looked how so I did see the Infinity I
did see see something and I came back in
but what but where I am now where I'm
sitting in this room now I had in 2015
had the three-month experience and I
used I kept a journal every day
a diary every day and although the world
around me was the same you know like
just sitting in this room looking
outside at the castle it wasn't the same
world but it wasn't the Gothic world it
wasn't the shadow world thing it wasn't
like the magical world it was a nut it
was like purity it was like a pure space
so that when I when I look at the room
now and the outside its lit up you know
the light and the sky is all all lit up
so you have light and space but this but
being in Satori of Nirvana it's not that
space it's not time and space it's
around it it's like it's like there's a
different dimension of space that isn't
bound to time and space yeah in it and
it doesn't have a limit so it's not like
limited by the trees or the sky or or
anything material and that's that that
would be the same as I experienced
before what I called the power you know
so before I wasn't ready for the power
but it get is given at me in small doses
it's not the power and like Buddha was
connected to the power yet it is an
expression of that power would you say
that it's not a symbol it's not in my
psyche it's not a lesser it's a less
Formula like the shekinah with the
Hebrews were called the Shekinah glory a
tangible presence but not the presence
itself almost just like beholding and a
piece of it like you said talking about
the reflection of the moon and seeing
that image which is the the light of the
Sun expressed through the moon and we
get we get that light and you walk with
that because many people say that if you
was to go directly to the supreme power
that you would surely die I mean we look
at the Ark of the Covenant which carried
the presence of God and if anybody
touched it who wasn't worthy
they would instantly die I mean and even
having that strong encounter from an
expression of the source was so profound
there's more right yeah
so you know the concept of the one in
the Egyptian model the concepts of the
one faith he's not in the universe he's
the grand architect of the Masons he's
the grand architect right so so he
doesn't really exist
as we call it in this universe he's not
he's not in existence and it's just a
principle called the one but you could
say the one is navarre no it's the one -
empty it's nothing because when you're
approaching it through knowledge or or
cultural science it really is nothing so
what's be what be before the Big Bang or
nothing but it's not nothing
yeah think compared to something it's
not a corollary of something the
scientists want something else don't
they they wonder kind of like the mind
of God you know the god gene what they
called the god gene particle but but you
see nirvan there isn't that kind of
nothing it's not that is here right now
then nothing is actually here right now
I'm talking to you and I'm very much in
my consciousness using language but I'm
also aware of that of the emptiness I
think that's where meditation comes in I
think that's where meditation comes in
that we are able to kind of shut
everything thing down and kind of go
back to that ass
to get a glimpse of it to kind of take
it with us to kind of remind us who we
are where we came from one thing I
wanted to talk to you about is the the
importance I think of stargazing you
said that when you were having some some
encounter stargazing gazing into Orion
and then things would happen people ask
me you know how do I have more
synchronicities how do I get on the
spiritual path I'm what do I do the
three things I tell them is begin
reading literature reading books that
are about people who have had encounters
like that or some of the information
that that's come before us I say read
spend time and meditation and in prayer
to kind of reflect on what you're
reading and and touch the divine kind of
get with that source energy and
stargazing I always tell them stargazing
for me that's just like that
communication I've spent our stargazing
and like you I've gazed into Orion and
seen starships and seen entities coming
in and out of Orion or just being
focused and then out of the peripheral
other beings will come into play and
begin to see all of this stuff just by
simply squatting down and gazing at the
Stars there's something to that
are you there David or did you lock up
you might have locked up okay okay so
what would you say is the power of
stargazing are we making connection when
we do that I mean that with the entities
who who dwell in that star system I mean
what's going on when we gaze into Orion
or we gaze into you know I'm saying the
Pleiades and we feel energy we feel
downloads I feel I've been I've gazed so
intently before I felt like I was being
sucked out of my body in it I had to
catch myself you know and it scared me
it really did know that there's a meadow
in Oxford and I used to go to this big
meadow and just lie down and I thought
I'd be taken out of my body which again
you know I've not have it's not happened
to me I think it's a matter of
orientation
you know if you're a spiritual person
they call that that in Gurdjieff's
term the guy called burr Jeff he calls
it the magnetic Center in it in alchemy
and you call it the lodestone it's a
magnetic stone and and as I say the pole
stars a magnetic star so you know it's
aligned to the Earth's axis it's a light
line there so this the the very first
pyramid the Step Pyramid which a lot of
my words based on I've had certain
things revealed to me but that's a line
to the pole star Draco so it's an
alignment it's like you're aligning like
the ley line the dragon path that thou
being in the DAO being synchronicity
what they call the law of
correspondences the sympathy of all
things it's being intimate you know it's
like feeling intimate you know if you go
for a walk and there's birds and trees
or you're or people you like it's an
intimacy I think that's a very important
spiritual quality is like intimacy being
receptive connecting yeah connected it
is it's vulnerable being vulnerable as
well because vulnerable you can you
think if you're open to people open to
well you can be hurt because you're
vulnerable and in a way no the terrible
aspect of the Godhead which is the
numinous the terrible aspect of the
Godhead you know even the evil aspect is
part of it is part of the drama you know
so I've never closed off you know I've
not dabbled or anything in magic in that
way but I'm saying that when you're
being intimate yes you can be a bit
afraid of course you've your instincts
you're afraid and you want a good
experience and now you've got a whole
kind of
cornucopia of reactions but if you've
got the right intention if you've got
the right intention and you're building
on something there's got to be something
there you've got to have confidence in
yourself that there's something there in
yourself you know there's going to be a
place as in there as a place you can go
to in yourself and that's what
meditation is this is a meditation it is
really a communion with the spirit so if
you're in communion with the spirit the
world opens itself to you mm-hmm that's
how I would describe it I've never taken
myself but that's of course if you if
you're stargazing I think there's a form
of meditation yeah yeah I'm saying if
you you know if you're an artist and you
go into the studio and there's a blank
canvas yeah that moment that's the
Nirvana that's the white room in the way
that's the white square and live on that
emptiness have you got the if you've got
the energy the courage of the confidence
to make a mark you know and like the
cave paintings they went in there didn't
they and they made the mark made they
scratch them made them are so I'm saying
that you know being open and what I
would call the act of creation know that
there are always acts of creation
synchronicities UFOs their acts of
creation they're coming out of actual
creation they're coming out of nothing
what we call nothing which the
scientists don't believe in but we know
we know it's real and once you've had
one experience then you've got a Avenue
once you've had one thing it's enough to
start it it's enough to get bit by the
bug you get bit the bug bites yeah but
once you've got it it's not gonna go
away no I don't think it ever does some
people turn it off you know people that
we get busy you know things happen
consciousness shift things change some I
don't I wish I did like I wish I still
had as many encounters as I used to it's
been a while since I've had a profound
UFO encounter and I was at a place where
I was having them daily like making
contact daily now it's like I'm
reflecting on what the hell was it like
what is it in a you know and trying to
talk to people and stuff and then the
information and knowledge from the
research and even from the meditation or
seeing the UFO is not it's not just
about seeing something I think people
see stuff all the time but communicating
with it connecting with it and getting
downloads of information and energy
that's a whole nother level that's a
whole nother thing that we're bringing
to the table and so it's not about
content continuing to have the
experience it's about dissecting it and
what does it mean to you I think it's uh
I think it's a disservice just to keep
wanting more I want another one I want
another experience I want to see
something else like you've been
privileged to see so much you have to do
something with the information I mean
there's people you know who like chase
after psychics and prophets and stuff
like that and I used to do that go to
services where you want someone to speak
over you a prophetic word about your
life and then the next week you want
somebody else to do and you're just
chasing this versus like or even with
the psychedelic experience you want all
of these psychedelic experiences but you
haven't done the work and and and the
information that has come through you
have to dissect it and apply it to your
life to go deeper that's what's working
for me I've had those encounters and I'm
trying to make the changes in the
adjustments to my life and when I do the
information that comes through has been
profound it's been life-changing about
like you said something whether you want
to call it God or the universe or the
ETS or whatever or if something is
watching over us it's communicating with
us and it has an agenda or path for us
like a life purpose to affect people to
bring about good to bring about change
and I've seen it in my own life and I
think it it's very tangible and it's
very beautiful
yeah all right so we're in the body
right we're born in a we're in a body we
don't have much memory of what happened
before so we're in the body and we're a
self so 7 billion people we're selves in
bodies right and we've got this toolkit
consciousness the Spirit doesn't connect
through consciousness the spirit
connects to you right so the spiritual
awakening is a communion one-to-one
communion almost self to self in in the
Buddhist says Hindu says the small South
with the big south itself to South
that's what I'm saying it never goes
away once that you communion once you've
reestablished connection with the source
inward dialogue yep whatever where have
you come from has it were into the body
you've reconnected and then
consciousness has to do something about
it right so you've got people that don't
have that contact with their self or
that with God or whatever you want to
call it and they live in consciousness
they live in the matrix they live in
what the Buddhist core conditioning Maya
so they're chasing their own tail
they're playing themselves they're not
playing an artificial robot the chess
you know they're playing the game
they're playing they're really playing
their own mind game they're playing
they're playing against themselves in
chests so we're all playing against
ourselves and I'm saying that the the
spiritual awakening that the south to
self the one to one isn't about
consciousness but we're here so we have
to you might say represent that
communion which is without knowledge
we've got to translate it into knowledge
so we have what you call genius so the
genius translates what he's no she's
inspired to say
or poetry or music this come out of
nowhere and they express it and and that
direct kind of expression that creative
expression is again like an act of
creation is coming out of nowhere and
what happens with the establishment the
authority the people that run the
society I I caught no it's called
cultural capital they don't love music
and love are they they they want the
product they want the brand to make more
money
hi Jam yeah the creative artist and they
have patrons right so you know the
vatican's the patron in the Renaissance
and then you've got like people you know
paying lip-service
well I've never bought into that at my
art nobody seemed very few people have
seen my art because I'm not gonna play
that game you know and like I'm on
Amazon I publish my books on Amazon I
put my pictures on Facebook and so forth
and so on and show a few friends but III
I'm not going to bow down to any
authority there's going to hijack the
meaning of my life you know the meaning
of my life is to be in contact with the
spiritual to be creative and to be
independent to be free and and I'm not
going to play that game
I'm not going to play against myself
because when we play against ourselves
you show yourself it's hard to get it
back we look at look at prints look at
his story man you know and I and since
there would happen to him and him
changing his name into a symbol because
they owned everything that he put out
and they had you know they they could
approve or disprove songs you know and
maybe the stuff he wanted to put out
they wouldn't release it there and
that's happened with a lot of people
having to change their message or even
selling their story to a network I mean
if we talking about ufology let's look
at the movie fire in the sky
you know what's his name he sold his
story and they totally misrepresented it
and it made it like a horror movie
essentially when it was something in the
end beautiful and he's working
he's working out there now doing the
circuits to kind of undo what that movie
has done you know yeah and they want to
change it so I talked to James Gilliland
too and he's one who uh who's out there
on the front lines of the the contact
the experience is in initiating contact
as well and and he's been approached to
sell his story but he won't because they
try to put the horror Bend on it that
genre set sells I mean there's you know
I went and seen a horror movie the other
day but it was good that was an awesome
message in it about psychic abilities I
seen the new insidious movie and took my
daughter to see it it is a horror
because this jump scares and stuff like
that but as far as they did a really
good job in that movie of tying in
receiving messages from the other world
of being a psychic and being down
trotted and abused by your parents and
laughed at but still seeking after that
so they're so that like there's people
now with that art and creativity they're
still tying these beautiful messages in
with the genre thing I think like
entertainment is so powerful I do music
about my art in my experiences I'm
taking these really delicate spiritual
encounters and putting them in a song
and trying to articulate it in a way
that it it sounds intriguing and in it
almost builds an altar or a monument of
these encounters that I've had and other
people you know well I'll talk about
reading in fact reading books and
information listening to music that
promotes this type of stuff a lot of
stuff so Pete other people who are
listening to my songs about my
encounters they're finding themselves
having these encounters with UFOs and
spirits and meditation and things like
that so something with the synchronicity
everything ties together you know once
you start giving your attention to it
you start noticing it in everything and
something's guiding you something's
leading you to everything you're doing
some people never realize that though
some people are just on that study mode
and they never come to this an inward
knowing that
it's about spirituality it's about
treating others well they just they want
knowledge they want to have the
information but there's no connection to
the spirit realm there at all for them
supernatural networking you got matrix
I've met I've never seen the mate I
don't watch films but yeah I've not seen
the matrix we know but you know the
cancer mm-hmm yeah obviously they talk
about the prison planet and AI is
something something is kind of it's
talking about Maya too you know the veil
of the unseen realm that or this realm
that we see is just a shadow and it's
just kind of not real you know it's the
world to come that's uh that's the real
world yeah I mean you know the things
that we see around us what we call
history and even the pyramids you know
again it's so it's a language I mean in
the end everything in consciousness is a
language and everything's coded what I
call the symbolic code but it's but and
in in the world when we go to university
and go to go to school and all of that
that's one kind of code there's a
propaganda and indoctrination and that
kind of conditioning and and so you you
got that level of programming which is
what we see on the television and what
the core society but there's a meta
programming like say the Bible you know
you've got a person Jesus and some
people going around in their local city
or town or something like that and then
you've got this secret code you've got
this meta programming this mythic
symbolic magical language kind of in
there and you know looking at it if you
just look at it like the Bible or any
other texts the Book of the Dead the
Egyptian Book of the Dead it's just a
riddle it's like the riddle of the
Sphinx I mean it's just a very very
come complicated very messy it's a very
messy language know when you read poetry
in a way it's it's not easy for the
conscious mind when you read poetry the
contract you've got a switch you've got
to go from the conscious mind which is
like ego base and controlling everything
you've got a let go you've got a kind of
goat fall into the poetry don't you you
fall into the music and and and you've
got to navigate so there is a kind of
secret code within yourself you can
navigate this dark night of the soul
this matrix and whatever you want to
call it and and I as I say it's it's
like mmm
my first memory my very first memory a
two years old
is looking at a red fire engine right so
my favorite toy is a wreck was a red
fire engine so my memory is just looking
at this red fire engine and somebody
something revealed that to me and I
interpret that as the chariot of fire so
the fire engine becomes the chariot of
fire the child to fire becomes the UFO
so at the age of four years now I have
this seeming abduction so I'm saying
that you know your life story is encoded
meta meta program with mythology and
symbol and magic and it's making the
connection you know it you could live
your whole life and not reflect on that
level but it's there it's actually there
you know the flowers in the garden or
maybe your father like my father used to
read detective books and cowboyed you
know that kind of American politician
you know um it could be anything that
contains this symbolic knowledge for you
mm-hmm and yet you could live your whole
life and not realize that
something in your front room when you
were a child or some person you met or
some place you went to there was
something telling you something but you
just didn't see it you just didn't like
listen yeah that's uh that's um that's
so true that's a fear and I think that's
that's what you always want people to
experience what you haven't experienced
an encounter you want everybody to know
what you know I mean just look at
vegetarians look at vegans you know
they've got the answer they found the
antidote and then they're gonna go
around and tell every about everyone and
proselytize and even with you know
Christians or any type of religion
you're gonna go out and say hey I have
the truth you need to know this what I
know and so essentially what we're doing
just just kind of having this
conversation sharing the stories for
many people that already rings true
they've already had that inward knowing
that self-reflection and for those who
haven't it's available we're just
letting them know that it's it's there
and this is sad that that people never
encounter that I mean I have family
members who you know who've had a hard
life you know I've had a hard life too
but just to see them still continue to
go on that path that destructive path
when the path of goodness is there to
like this self-realization learning from
your mistakes learning from the mistakes
of others all of it's there but some of
them will never experience that that's
sad to fathom it's sad to think of I do
believe in and happy endings I do
believe that that we could be happy and
inexperienced that and I want that for
everyone but David I appreciate you
coming on the show hanging out with me
bro do you want to share your links
where people can contact you I don't I
don't know if you have a website but
you've got a lot of interviews that
you've done you're also active on
Facebook and things like that if you
want to show you links out yeah I've got
a YouTube channel and you can get I
think I've got about nine nine play a
playlist of nine now on my youtube
channel I'm on Facebook and Amazon my
books are on Amazon and my in my
email is David SR Curtis at outlook.com
and no you can find me in those places
David I've enjoyed hanging out with your
brother well let's do it again soon if
we can man okay nice seeing you alright
thank you bro yeah see you bye bye bye
David Curtis ladies and gentlemen
awesome good stuff enjoyed that
conversation a lot um
when we're talking about that stuff man
just I think just talking about those
those experiences those encounters and
stuff like that I think that it's part
of what initiates that we're talking
about people who want to have those
encounters in their life we're talking
about how do you do it stargazing
there's something that's that's
connected there thank you guys for
hanging out with me I'm gonna try to get
to some of these questions here in the
chat room phone lines are open if
anybody wants to call and feel free to
use that technology that we have but
let's see so ray asked me a while ago I
did see that come by in the chat you
asked me if I've ever done Stephen
Greer's meditation I have it's a good
meditation we we used to do that ce-5
initiative meditation before going out
to stargaze and trying to make contact
we'd kind of get in that heightened
state state of awareness and I remember
doing it with a friend of mine out in
the field we were sitting in a vehicle
first and getting relaxed get into the
meditative state before we went into
that meditation and I know it was so
funny because you can tell like he was
reading and then you could tell that he
was turning the pages and so there was
just we would always laugh we'd hear him
breathing and then it was just so raw
and he's reading and you hear the pages
of his book that he's reading his
meditation out of it was just hilarious
but that's my memories of doing the ce-5
meditation from Steven Greer but we
definitely did do that Christy folks she
asked earlier she says she wants to be a
part of what we're doing with the School
of the Mystics but she isn't able to do
it on Thursday nights there's a lot of
people I've been getting this message a
lot a lot of people
support a lot of people who want to be a
part of what we're doing on Thursday
nights but they can't because of the job
or you know the family things going on
and when they have time to kind of get
away it's during work hours listening to
the podcast driving whatever the case is
so I wasn't going to record those
because they've been really candid and
stuff and personal but I'm gonna record
them and they're gonna be available for
the patrons so it'll be in the patrons
section essentially because we're doing
a course and if anybody comes in at any
time in the course maybe we have you
know five sessions under our belt you
can go back and listen to them they're
gonna be really short sessions that
we're doing with the teachings anywhere
short so we're gonna do the short
teaching of the course and then we're
gonna do the the Q&A and the the group
discussion that's in the book so it's
about starting the prophetic ministry
and a lot of its is basics for me
elementary stuff but I think it's good
to brush up on elementary stuff even for
me and there could be some things I have
I haven't learned because this is
somebody else's course there's a bunch
of them we could choose from but we're
gonna start here and see how it goes and
so it's gonna be something that we're
building with the community Thursday
nights at 7 p.m. with the School of the
Mystics so you'll be able to listen to
that at your own leisure so if you are a
patron you'll get access to that too so
I wanted to make sure I let that know
that it will be recorded now yeah man
I've had a pretty interesting week this
week guys I mentioned it at the end of
the last podcast man I um I I don't know
I don't know how much to just really go
in on this we've been talking about this
a lot lately I was on Kristy Lee show
last night we talked about it a little
bit but just to kind of keep keep you
guys up to speed like I did a contest
for a song I wrote a song submitted it
to this contest that Tariq Bibby put out
ended up winning first place it was a
theme song as about star seeds who feel
misplaced and who are going through a
rough time on the earth and then kind of
finding healing or finding their calling
in the end so I wrote this song it's
available on patreon as well you can
download it it's called scars and it's
about a girl it's about a guy going
through life and being an outcast being
rejected not fitting in at school those
type of things and you need talk about
pill addiction and stuff like that and
then the second verse is about a girl
kind of same experience not fitting in
at school being picked on made fun of
and things like that and then at the end
they find each other they run away
together and they find healing and it's
I sum it up in a song I did that song
put it out there for the contest I won
first place I won $1,000 praise God it
was awesome it came to a perfect time
right when I needed it for bills and act
that type of stuff so really a god thing
that I won I knew funny things I knew I
was gonna win like when I cuz I woke up
with those lyrics in my head like I got
the song from spirit 100% so I woke up
out of sleep and had these lyrics in my
head just the beginning of it to sit
down and do it and it just started
flowing one first place one guy um was
upset that I won because he submitted a
song the song was not good his singing
was off-key all of this stuff but he
insisted that he should have been the
winner and it got really weird this guy
was messaging me the guy who did the
contest Tariq had to block this guy
because he's talking about pressing
charges just crazy stuff this guy who
claims that he was supposed to be the
winner of the contest and the song was
bad I wanted to tell him that it was bad
I wanted to tell him that he should have
got somebody else to sing it because he
was off-key you know but I didn't I had
the message typed up and I was gonna
send it to him because he was like
accusing me accusing the contest of
being rigged and all kind of weird stuff
you know so that happened with the
contest and then on top of that a close
friend of mine went through some weird
psychosis he's been going through this
thing for a long time actually doing
really weird stuff on social media I
mean going live on Facebook and getting
naked like taking off his clothes and
saying America
stand before you as a naked man naked
before you naked before God I hold
nothing back and he'd get naked and put
the camera on his face where you
couldn't see it he's sitting there naked
on on live stream this dude he's on
drugs and stuff and it's a good friend
of mine man he's got a calling on his
life I've seen God use them he's
talented he plays all kind of
instruments he raps he sings he's
awesome man but he's just in a bad place
on some really hard drugs and involved
with some dark spirits man and anyway
this guy reached out to me after all
that stuff about getting naked and he
even made death threats to his baby mama
and his daughter on Facebook live he
said was gonna kill him give him back to
God crazy stuff he reached out to me in
uh and said congratulations on the song
you did good my brother I'm not even
gonna ask you for what you owe me half
of them half of the money it's like what
he said yep you owe me half of the money
that song was inspired by me and I
actually wrote that song and I gave you
the knowledge and all this took to write
that song and I was like I didn't even
entertain every minutes do shut out this
dude he's on some crazy stuff to come at
me sideways like that on something that
I created you know what I'm saying
that's just insane this stuff you go
through when your mind is on some of
these hard drugs and he just insisted
man he just kept on and on and then he
started blowing me up calling me calling
me calling me I wasn't answering because
I was busy at the moment you need to
answer right now your life is in
jeopardy
oh my god you know he was one of the
crazies coming out the woodwork bad
thing is I really believe in this guy
man I could see the potential in him
anyway I finally answered the phone and
said I'm watching a movie with my wife
what's up ba ba ba ba he just went off
on some crazy stuff and you owe me hit
$500 you want a thousand I want my money
like dude you're insane bro and I just
told him look you need to get off the
drugs you need to get clean I love you
bye and I just blocked him from all
social media blocked his phone number
all that stuff so then four he goes and
does this long Facebook rant on me and
tries to post it in the patreon on that
patient group but in my product on my
that I have true seekers friends on
Facebook and this long thing talking
about I'm a Judas and I stole from him
crazy crazy stuff and didn't started
going to all my friends just telling
them crazy stuff about me we gotta quit
following true seeker
he's using magic he's left God he's
following magic in and like he's going
to all my friends just having these
private discourses with them and a weird
thing is like a lot of people
entertained it you know and I think you
know and that's that's the weird thing
when it comes as psychology and
understanding why people are trying to
rationalize what's a drug addict you
know me too I've I put myself in the mix
why am i why was I trying to I see the I
see the potential in this guy like I see
you know he's awesome artists like
people would people pray and fast for
his talent like they long to write a
song they long to be able to play the
guitar be able to sing and rap and like
this guy he's got so much talent it's
oozing out of him but he's in a bad
place right now man so we're just gonna
pray for him I've been praying for him
but it got to the next level he started
sending me death threats he started
telling my friends that he was gonna
stop at nothing to to honor his
ancestors and kill me and his ancestors
will get glory out of out of my downfall
and just crazy craziness so um I reached
out to this lady
the mother of the girl he was
threatening cuz they they had a whole
deal on it as well
threatening to kill him and kill him
kill his daughter and so I reached out
the house I look if you guys had any uh
any luck going to the policeman with
this guy because it all my friends were
messaging me like dude you got to be
careful with this dude and he's crazy
right now he may show up at your house
bah bah bah bah bah bah this kind of
stuff so I hit the lady up she said he
was supposed to go to court yesterday he
never showed up
you know they got three warrants on him
you know she told me to call the cops
just so I can you know let him know
what's going on that it would help this
case cuz he's they got warrants on him
he didn't show up for court for
threatening these people and he got gun
charges and all kind of crazy stuff
anyway I didn't call
in just a few hours later she posted an
update oh she posted an update saying uh
he was locked up so they had this
picture of him you know all cracked out
and stuff in jail and it's like it's
insane
gotta be careful man this is real I'm
reading the the comments at the same
same thing man and so uh jared says man
you should prepare hey we got guns bro
we got guns trust me we're prepared
we're ready ready for whatever the weird
thing is like a lot of once you reach a
level of notoriety once you get a big
enough platform a lot of people come out
the woodwork but then then again you
know you got to see if you're catering
to these people if you're enabling these
people those type of things but it's not
just me I like we like to say cuz we
talk about spirituality we're open to so
much stuff and trust me I get those
messages from crazy people who listen to
the show and listen to my music and they
resonate with me and and this mean I
think I've even had somebody else say
that they felt like they wrote my lyrics
or something I don't you know I'm saying
like just crazy
I have people hit me up telling me that
the Illuminati and the Masons told them
that they were supposed to be my wife
and and marry me and I've had my friends
wives who have never met just friends on
online and their wife will secretly
message me that they want to be together
just crazy stuff that goes on and it
comes with the territory man and you
wonder things like okay what are you
doing true seeker that creates a a
breeding ground for these people why do
these people feel comfortable what
coming to you I see the potential in a
lot of people like even with with this
guy I see potential in him and I feel
like he's I hope that he gets cleaned up
and I i prophesy that over him that he
will man and I want that for him I think
everybody deserves to have a happy happy
ending man but I'm done with him you
can't threaten my life or my family and
then think you're gonna come back and
hang out and be friends I'm done with
them on that tip but um there's a line
that you can't call you
can't take back your words man you have
to be careful you can't undo it hey I
was just playing man I was in a bad spot
okay I forgive you but you got to stay
away you got to stay where you are you
can't yeah you can you can't be trusted
you know those sight and there's those
people sometimes you have to cut people
off sometimes you have to get people out
of your life man some people are
dangerous the spirit of jealousy men
have a lot of friends over the years who
have been jealous of my platform they
think that they deserve it they think
that they're more spiritual they think
that they have the right knowledge to
share with the masses of this platform
that I've built in they're jealous I
don't deserve the platform they do like
I've had people there and they do little
stuff like that guy as far as like
messaging all my friends and say hey
stay away from true seeker he's a fake
he's a false prophet he's leading people
astray like that type but like people
have inbox them I've had people do that
inbox all my friends and then call me
and have a conversation with me accusing
me and then I'm able to kind of shed
some light on whatever you no nonsense
they're entertaining in their head and I
win them over and you know what man I'm
sorry bro and they go back in the
message all the people again and they
apologize and say you know what I was
wrong about true seeker this this this
I've had that happen a bunch especially
with church people but um you know
creating a safe haven or for these
people to thrive in the spiritual
spirituality the New Age whatever you
wanna call it like there's a lot of
people who were out there you know but
guess what
I come from Christianity in the
Christian Church and guess what there's
a breeding ground for that too they're
in the prophetic movement sin and
suffering we so this is just like a
warning just hey everybody get up on
their game like we have to really be
walking in the spirit of discernment
with with what we're entertaining and
with people and we allow people to speak
into our lives and he that do reached
out to a lot of people he uh that was
weird
there's a whole the whole thing is just
weird in general that one person would
have that much power to go on there and
do that and stir up as much stuff as
they could and we have to be careful to
stuff we're entertaining and we're
letting these people we have to move in
this
period of discernment it was said a long
time ago that um the guy who led me to
the Lord years ago he went to church and
there was a guy who came and uh he asked
him to come to church so he came and
checked out the church and uh talking it
was like man you got and then he told
him he said look you guys claim to be
spiritual you guys are talking in
tongues praying and the Holy Spirit
healing people dancing in the church you
guys are just getting into the spirit of
God but you you can't even move in the
gift of discernment he said what are you
talking about he said you have
registered sex offenders in the church
and you're letting your kids run around
because it's a community almost effort
almost you're letting your kids run
around and your kids are sitting in the
laps of registered sex offenders and you
guys cannot even discern it you don't
even know that but you're so spiritual
you're so deep you're so connected with
God or hearing God or God told me this
you know these type of things but you
can't discern the pedophiles and sex of
registered sex offenders in your church
and in your kids are sitting in their
lap and they're sitting on your on their
knees and they're you know playing with
the kids in the church and so that
really punched him and hit hit hit hit
home with with him and he shared that
with me and it always ring true to me
because I've known stuff like that too
of this these people who go to church in
their accept it and you know that I've
seen trust me man like they've I've seen
so much there's a lot of delusional
people in churches too that's a lot of
them in the New Age movement there's a
lot of them in Islam look at what these
guys are doing these people are killing
itself over their religion and killing
other peoples and doing harm to other
people racist people people in the Ku
Klux Klan black Hebrew Israelites like
on every asset that aspect there's
extremists out there and it's about just
trying to find balance and trying to
find peace and harmony and and and be
that light unto the world
that's essentially what it's about but
in the midst of that we have to be
careful we have to use discernment pray
for discernment that's a spiritual gift
like in your spirit you can know that
hey this isn't right or God will tell
you stuff about people I mean that's
what we're going to be speaking on
on School of the Mystics tonight is how
to how to hear that voice of God in your
life for what people are going through
business decisions relationship
decisions like hearing God being able to
discern the spirits that are on other
people like you can do that that's part
of it it's very practical it's practice
isn't just theories and cool stuff of
what if it's real no this stuff is real
it's tangible and if it's not if you
can't apply it to your life if it cannot
help you or the people around you then I
really don't want to talk about it and
so there's some somewhat of a tangible
experience in each every one of these
interviews that I do I try to take
something from it I mean even this
discussion with with David Curtis today
it's like this guy's 73 years old and to
see where he is and to see his life's
past very similar to mine like those
experiences he's had and the conclusions
he's come to and it still seems like
he's just still seeking like now what is
the thing like what's the absolute I
think I found the absolute like I think
I think I know what it's about for me
it's it's simply knowing God and making
him known letting people know about this
this gospel that God loves you and he's
got a plan for you and you can encounter
God that you have a purpose for your
life and a plan for your life and in
that and through that there's so much
other stuff whatever your life calling
is to be whatever you desire to do with
your life all of that stuff is kind of
woven throughout that message but the
message is is an empowerment of the good
news man and so of a day you're not
alone right and so like that's that's my
end all like that's my agenda in the
midst of having these conversations with
people is to share my story and and see
how it relates and really get deep down
into the into the essence of the of the
mind of the psyche and and what people
are going through and people who need
help people like this guy who uh you
know sent me death threats and stuff
like that I try to put myself out there
you know I try to put myself and I had I
have discernment with them that's my
problem and not just me but most of the
people I run with in my circle is that
we have compassion for others
we we know that the churches have kicked
these guys out we know that they've been
booted from society and in their
outcasts but hey those are the people
that God uses man so we have a
compassion for them I mean because we've
been there we've been blacklisted and I
don't want to kick this guy while he's
down I've been there I've got the karma
to prove it
you know I've done that to people and
it's been done to me and I would not
wish that upon anyone that's why I try
to go above and beyond to extend my hand
but um but you bite me when I extend my
hand out there then we're done I can't
mess with you I can't like if I keep if
I got in and and to pick up a snake and
the snake bites me who's the blame me or
the snake especially if I go out there
and do it again keep getting bit by the
same snake no you got to use wisdom and
discernment man with all things the
scriptures is is deep on this and the
scripture talks about giving people over
to Satan let that sink in what does that
mean giving them over to Satan it's
really just pulling your hands back look
man it's you and God
you were Satan essentially like i'ma
have to give you over to what's what's
ailing you and let you let you deal with
that for a while see what happens and
see what you come to and God has a way
of worrying the hearts hearts of people
and and and setting up situations and
sending demons into your life and in
downfall and things to let you know that
he's the way like he's the only only
place you're gonna find serenity and
solace is in him this relationship with
God and and that that's what it's about
so with this brother I pray for him I
release him you know all that stuff and
I I believe that uh you know I want his
best days to be ahead of him I want him
to to get clean I want him to be happy I
want him to be in his kid's life and
things like that um I hate the fact that
everybody you know doesn't get the happy
ending which I was talking about I
believe in that I fight for that I I
make every I don't live for the moment I
try not to I try to I try to make every
decision with the future in mind all of
them a future of my daughter my wife my
friends my family even myself to kind of
set myself up of like planting something
today that come
in a manifestation like building the
life that we want the vision that we
have of ourselves when we go into
meditation and you get these visions of
yourself and what you want to do and why
you're here what is my purpose and then
you're so far removed from that purpose
that you see yourself in the astral
realms it's like okay what can I do to
achieve that what can I do to actually
tap into that and and in this thing's
practical things you can do to be
whatever you want whatever you call it
to be and aligning yourself with the
universe or with God you God works with
you he doesn't work against you he
doesn't you know it's not mad at you and
if we talk about the universe and God
that's a whole nother thing - I've been
just kind of contemplating you know some
people like to say God you go in new-age
circles they don't want you to say God
because I think you're being religious
but you know we talk about God in the
universe trying to use it
interchangeably but I don't think it's
the same thing I would think that God
created the universe that's two
different things and we talk about the
universe that's that's not something
that uh that loves you or something
that's tangible something that cares
about you God is personable like there's
a relationship with the loving God with
the spirit realm right so we're talking
about people getting offended or not
wanting to be you know not want to talk
about God or whatever the case is I've
been you know I've went through that
whole thing I go into a lot of New Age
broadcasting shows and they have me on
even within myself but um it is what it
is men it's about God and if you want to
call it the universe but I think the
universe God created you the universe
and uh you know I'm saying so there's a
difference there that's just a tangent
but uh some of these other questions
here in the chat room I see all it is
his interview is gonna be really soon
guys all it is we did a song together -
so make sure y'all check that out a ll I
T eyes II just type in all it is one
word on YouTube with true seeker and you
can check out the new song that we did
about a UFOs and the spirit realm some
awesome stuff we went into but um he
says here in the charity says I believe
we all have a
a he said I believe we all have a lie
detector built-in into our spirit we
just have to learn how to listen to it
yep we can we can sense things and like
I say we right so I think I think the
different people have different giftings
and different abilities and it talks
about this in a Bible and it talks about
the gift of the discernment and it says
that I know we want to say we because we
do like you do I do and you know people
who do but maybe some people don't maybe
some people have other giftings in
they're better at utilizing those gifts
and uh and for the body so we all come
together okay true seeker and all it is
you guys are good at discernment here's
somebody else who's good at speaking
here's somebody other who has a gift of
planning and bringing people together
all of these are gifts within the Bible
the gift of administration making things
happen - gift of healing the gift of
prophecy the gift of speaking in tongues
obviously I think we all can kind of tap
into all of those areas but we talked
about the body when we all come together
and all of us are good at these things
trust me when the the church in the book
of Acts this is what they did they were
all good at these different things they
came together and they function and they
changed the generation they changed
everybody they came in contact with it
was not like it was not like an agenda
driven thing of hey look at me some of
that came into play but they addressed
it and they they dealt with it and they
did it the best way that they knew how
but we're talking about spiritual
giftings we're talking about other some
people good at divination of tapping
into the spirit realm casting Lots and
these spiritual practice in this whole
artillery that they had man and when
they rolled together and they were on
one Accord you couldn't stop them and we
can we can still build like that we can
work with that
when we when we come together on one
Accord for so for one man of true Sego
or whoever show or a podcast or a
teacher you listen to who claims to have
it figured out and they want to be the
master teacher some people call
themselves the master teacher I've been
getting a lot of links from this guy out
there they call him he calls himself the
master teacher and I've I've known
many master teachers on YouTube but it's
about it's about a community man anytime
that one man is exalted anytime that
even like in a church setting when when
the pastor is the go-to guy well my
pastor said this my pastor is the man of
God over my life ba-ba-ba-ba-ba that's
demonic it's straight Daman and you can
learn from that person he could be a
shepherd but really essentially God the
Holy Spirit Jesus is the shepherd but it
said when we come together when we all
come together it's about a community
it's about the body of Christ it's about
the flower of life all of us being an
expression of God and when we come
together we formulate the body of Christ
on earth the body of love right the body
of what it says that you have two or
three if two or three gather in my name
there I am in the midst so as you come
together
you essentially formulate Jesus on the
earth you are the manifestations of the
sons of God that's what it's about it's
about coming together it's about walking
in the spirit of unity in the spirit of
love man
that's just what that's just I wanted to
kind of give you guys some insight on
what I've been going through this week
also to maybe I want to speak on this
too this is for the this is for the
father's out there and the mother's too
but there's something I've got this on
my wrist for you guys who can see this
on the video end but I've got a I've got
a pink tag on my wrist it says good air
something I want to encourage you guys
man this stuff is practical man there's
something that I do that I want to pass
down to you guys to do if you don't at
least one day a year I take my daughter
out to something I call it
daddy-daughter day and it's usually
check her out of school I'll let her go
for a couple hours and she doesn't know
it I have this day planned where I pick
her up we go ride go-karts we go have
lunch somewhere special and we go to the
movies or whatever the case is but I did
one yesterday so or the day before and
so I want to talk about that a little
bit I this I want to talk about the trip
to encourage you guys to do this whether
if you're a father if you're
spend a few dollars ain't gotta be you
do it for less than 100 bucks man just
to spend time I mean do it and even go
on a walk go on a nature hike
you know the in on just like a beautiful
day check him out of school go spend
time with just you and them now I'm not
not both parents just one you and so go
get your kid take him out yes
day before yesterday I took my daughter
I went got her we went got some lunch
had a good lunch then we went to this
place called get air which is a
trampoline spot and we went there and I
wanted to plan it I'm trying to plan it
out with the with a movie because there
was a movie I wanted to go see and take
her to the spot but we went there to
jump on these trampolines this
trampoline park and we were the only
people there I went there right when it
opens I mean how many kids are there at
noon you know on a Tuesday so we went to
the trampoline park and we don't we had
the whole place to ourselves man this
whole traveling it was 20 bucks I think
it was 20 bucks like 26 bucks for us to
do that we went there and spent an hour
and then we went and seen a movie and
then went and got ice cream or whatever
but it's just something like that that I
just encourage you guys man this stuff
is practical just you know tom is
precious time is of the essence as well
and I want to encourage you guys to do
that go check your kid out of school one
day man it don't take a lot of money if
I don't even if he ain't got no money
man you can go for a walk you can go to
the park and just get on the slide
whatever it is man but this stuff it's
practical man so I'm reading all it is
he says he says he says great idea I'll
do it with my five year old soon week he
says we got to get air in Michigan too
might have to try that much love truth
yeah do it when nobody's there to man so
it's not crowded and kids are just you
know knocking everybody down and all
that kind of stuff but it was fun just
to have the whole place to ourselves man
and I try to do it once a year every
year it's not planned she don't know it
it's a surprise she comes you know she's
in school comes on it's like here we're
going and I had everything prepared I
love I love surprises man I've been able
to surprise my wife and my daughter on
many different occasions and that I like
I just loved it I love surprises man
good surprises put it that way I've had
enough bad surprises of my life so it's
all about the good surprises and
making them laugh bringing smiles to to
people's faces in their face that's what
I do if I don't do anything else man as
a father I try to I try to you know be
light-hearted and make them laugh and
make them smile you know in a world out
there that can be can be hard and
cold-hearted at times I try to keep
things like even with you guys man I try
to bring something to the table that's
gonna encourage you guys it's gonna
better your life it's gonna you know I'm
saying make this walk a little bit
easier make it a little bit more
enjoyable I think we're supposed to
enjoy life I remember going through
spirituality as a Christian and as like
the gnostic traditions even they teach
that you're not supposed to enjoy life
that you're supposed to like be a
suffering servant or what even in like
like the five percenters they call the
poor righteous teachers like you know
and that was like I thought that's what
you had to be you couldn't enjoy life
you wasn't supposed to have money you
weren't supposed to have wealth or or be
happy and stuff but that's man that's
demonic man it's not of God man
everything is beautiful to enjoy
everything in life but to really reach
that spirituality where you can go out
and just sit in nature and be okay well
you can go and do that walk with your
family I walk through the forest in the
cool of the day and just enjoy it and
feel connected with everything there man
spirituality let you do that and to know
that you're one with all creation with
God the Holy Spirit which is there with
you with your breath as you were able to
breathe in out in nature maybe even we
went hiking I'm gonna I take my shoes
off and I go I go barefoot hiking with
the family and we just connecting with
the earth and the energy is getting
grounded putting our feet on the ground
like really connecting it don't cost
money like it's free to do a lot of this
stuff man and that's that's what it's
about man to be to live in the moment
cuz that's all you have you don't have
tomorrow you don't have yesterday
yesterday is gone but to be in the
moment like I always point out Eckhart
Tolle is a millionaire off of teaching
people how to live in the now moment and
how to find that power in the now moment
well that's why I talk about meditation
it's about focusing on the moment we go
into those realms we we get the vision
for ourselves in the now moment there is
no tomorrow we talk about going on being
set on autopilot and just living life
the mundane over and over and even with
my family like even though like I do
this stuff it can I can still get on
autopilot and my family can do it my
daughter goes to school comes home does
homework we get dinner we eat we spent
some time together I do a podcast
whatever and it can be monotonous you
get into the monotony of life so you got
to switch it up you got to grab any
shake things up even for yourself man
turn that autopilot switch off I did it
for years when I was working in weeks
would pass man
and I'm just like just going just living
just doing it and a lot of times it
would come to play because it would make
it worse because I'd have something I
was looking forward to a month out two
months out six weeks from now whether
it's Christmas you know you get close to
Christmas you're like man I can't wait
till Christmas or your birthday or you
going to a concert and you get on
autopilot because you want that event to
come quicker so you have to shake
yourself you have to get out of that
autopilot and don't let the moment pass
you by to be present in the moment and
make those memories men don't like make
those memory that's what it's about I
have to it's a stunt man that's a slump
slump to fall into I've gotten there and
it's you know mindfulness meditation all
of that helps to do that and just a walk
in gratitude start looking at your life
and just find the things in your life
that you can be thankful for for
starting with your breath take that deep
breath in
holy spirit' a lot of times I can take
that breath and I just feel the holy
spirit when I breathe it's the breath
it's the pneuma he says Jesus breathed
upon his disciples they received the
Holy Spirit we could tap into the breath
that's the life force without that
breath you don't exist
you're not animating this is the breath
that animates all life so it's as simple
as that being thankful for every little
thing that we have and just our limbs
our health our family our friends you
know whatever you have in your life that
you're thankful for man so to really sit
in all of that and then to even speak it
out express it we said we're not talking
about a theory we're talking about or
just a God who is distant we're talking
about this relationship with with the
Creator that uh longs for a relationship
with you that wants to hang out with you
that wants you to tell him or it your
your feelings or your fears and confess
your faults to him so he can take them
he takes all that man and that's what
it's about so Missy so yeah thank you I
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