Zaydok the Godhop MC Interview | TruthSeekah Podcast
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Zadok what's going on my brother welcome
a peace King how you doing
I'm doing well man you on the road yes
sir I'm on the road with my beautiful
wife who helps me live my beautiful life
on our way south man leaving upstate New
York for the weekend ago giblet family
been locked in for three months up here
so we don't go south where they're a
little bit they're a little bit more
open yeah we opened up on the first some
of the restaurants sit in and I was in
there ASAP let's sit down enjoy my
Mexican food yeah oh yeah everything's
it's starting to balance out I feel I
mean who knows what's gonna happen in
the future but they're letting us get
some a sense of normality I guess right
here so it's very strange times for sure
very strange times that we're living in
man but uh you're trying to bring some
hope to the midst of midst of all of
this with all the confusion and chaos
and conspiracy theories and stuff like
that that's going on obviously we living
in uncertain times for sure but that's
always we've always been there just
people couldn't see it so for you like
I'm saying trying to navigate through
all of this stuff Kovan in that kind of
thing what has been like something
that's been on your forefront is it
trying to keep people focused on Christ
on and stay in the scriptures versus
watching all these documentaries and you
know the Antichrist and the end of the
world and we fixin to die and all that
kind of crazy stuff what's been your
main focus lately well my main focus
always is God's Word not God's Word
doesn't necessarily give us an everyday
blueprint of what's going to happen at
every moment but as we live our moments
the base foundation that we look from
that we think from and that we perceive
from is from the Word of God you know
the word of the prophets and the
apostles and so I take comfort in this
bro some stuff that is conspiracy for
people right now some stuff that is all
pay attention to what they do into the
food pay attention to these
immunizations and stuff where I come
from bro we was on this 20 years ago and
those who know me like that they know
you can go back and find proof of me
being on the Internet back in 2008-2009
talking about the necessity to control
more of your own food that you take in
if all you do is spend money on food
because you don't control resources then
when things happen the worry is Morsi
it's not that if anything happens that
the servants of God are impervious from
fear that we're impervious from worry
but we may have less fear and less worry
because as description says to so many
could fall at your right hand and your
left hand but the trouble won't come
near you but the worry still is in us
having a see what happens around us
because we're still worried for those
who we love so I'm not heavy into
conspiracies I'm just into obeying God
and letting the chips fall where they
may because these 40 years of my life
has gotten me to this point you feel me
I'm with you bro like uh you know seeing
it coming on it was funny because like
here on the podcast I've been like even
before like Cova was a thing and before
we got it like weeks eight maybe even
months leading up to it I found myself
talking a lot about how how we need to
stay away from conspiracies and these
endless questions and debates and stuff
like that and how they were unhealthy
how they keep us focused on fear and you
know the scripture tells us how how we
should think if there's anything pure
virtuous anything noble think on these
things versus what might be or what is
around the corner and it's usually
something evil or nasty so I found
myself before we got into this doing all
these videos for some reason and then
when it hit there's an explosion of
conspiracy videos and now everyone is an
expert and everyone's looking into like
you said stuff that we were preaching on
the street and teaching in 2008 coming
from the Hebrew Israelite movement and
things like that this was something that
they were big into back in the day 9/11
was big you know what I'm saying
teaching it on the streets and and all
of this the Illuminati they would teach
that kind of stuff so now people are
just now getting into some of this stuff
and so for me I kind of seen the
comments like I know where this leads
you know what I'm saying so I've been
able to kind of
Shepard people to keep their focus on
God keep their focus on Christ
staying in the scriptures - you know I'm
saying to keep your peace and to remain
in that the solace of God man so you
know I have a saying truth that this
so-called information age doesn't equal
the age of wisdom there's a lot of
information social media people people
now don't have to sit and have teachers
and don't have to sit and be challenged
I'm not saying they don't but what
social media in the end the web does it
causes people to Wikipedia and Google
everything and they just remember it and
regurgitate information and act as if
they understand in our well-schooled
and points in situations and that's not
the case and so while people call this
the age of information we have all of
this you know the Library of Congress is
trying to digitize every book in the
American arsenal that's fine but it
doesn't mean wisdom information doesn't
always equal understanding you can have
a lot of information and that's what
these conspiracy theories do there's an
interesting scripture where Solomon
talked about he said when you have a
great house and many servants don't walk
through your house trying to put your
ear to hear everything that's being said
because you being so nosy you might hear
your servant cursing you and then you're
hard to feel some kind of way because
you never know the effect you have on
people sometimes you might have to you
know you you might have to be harsh with
people you might have to do things a
certain way and if you just want to hear
every single thing I want to know
everything people say it you're gonna
wind up hearing something you really
don't want to hear and a lot of people
if they want to get into conspiracy
theories then I would say if you're
willing to do that and you can sit down
and watch site guys so you can go and
watch this that in the third you could
go to Gaia and watch all of these things
and why don't you sit and and come to
some Bible studies and sit for a couple
hours and fellowship and ask questions
about God's Word because you giving
everything a shot people want to give
everything to show
except the Word of God this demon uh
kind of been talking about that a little
bit too as far as uh you know you're not
supposed to hear that kind of talk you
know and it's you know in the scripture
this you know Solomon seeking wisdom is
ie be careful you know what I'm saying
because you're not supposed to hear that
gossip about you there's a reason they
don't tell you to your face there's a
reason and I've had this crazy thing
happened to where I've been on the phone
with people and then they hang up but
the phone doesn't hang up and as soon as
they think that they hung up they start
gossiping about me or that's true seeker
man he's shot out man he's Baba Baba and
I'm like oh Lord
like I wasn't supposed to hear that you
would have never said that to my face
but when you hear that gossip as a
reason in the scripture says it wisdom
because it messes with you you're not
supposed to hear that stuff that's right
and so I don't think we need to know
everything people becoming too
desensitized to too many things I don't
think I don't I'm not clicking every
clip of some fight some shooting you
know that this young man got
unfortunately he got killed by police in
Minneapolis a few days ago and I was
hurt by it because not only was he an
african-american like myself but he was
also armed a Christian he was there in
minute he was in Minneapolis for some
church training because he's known all
down from Florida and all that he was a
brother who always volunteered himself
at various community outreach events so
it hit home a little closer than usual
because of him being african-american
but grow I could not bring myself to
click the clip to watch him gasp him
embed for his life we don't need to see
everything we're becoming desensitized I
want to be appalled at death this
unnormal thing that we go through
because of sin I'm appalled at hurt and
you know at seeing young women in the
middle of the street fighting and
beating each other up I'm a Paul that's
seeing motorcycle gangs get in shootouts
and everyone get they phone out and
record it while they duck it I don't
want to see that bro and so I think that
even we have to be careful on what we
take into our eyes and into our eye
which lets stuff into our heart as much
as our mouth let's food into our gut you
know yeah
I've been talking about this too like
you know a lot of people will talk about
how like you know you're not supposed to
let your urine do your good works and be
seen in front of people right there's a
lot of videos of people feeding the
homeless and and and giving homeless
people money and giving large donations
that uh when they go out to eat and
stuff like that and they'll film it and
put it on the internet and people are
yeah you're not supposed to be filming
that that that's you know you're not
supposed to let your right hand know
what your left hand is doing but I'm
like I'm inspired when I see those
videos because I've seen so many videos
of hey pull your phone out there fixing
a fight hey pull your phone out this
guy's finished shoot this other guy in
the head or whatever foolishness they've
kind of made if there's challenges that
that the world has made that they beckon
other people to go and there was a knock
out challenge to go find a random go
find a random person and knock them out
and film it so I'm like if they're doing
all of this wickedness and making it
famous on camera let's go out let's make
it famous to bless somebody let's make
it famous to go out and do good deeds
and the scripture does say to let your
light shine before all men so that they
can see your good deeds and glorify your
father in heaven so I'm like let's look
for ways to go out and bless people and
make that popular cuz you know I'm
saying like if you helpin somebody that
person don't care whether you filming it
or not I have you help if you go up to a
homeless person to give them a thousand
dollars they don't care whether you got
your video camera out or not make that
stuff famous you know I'm saying make
righteousness famous make that cool
because it is yeah I understand both
sides of that argument and I guess at
the end of the day the intent in the
heart of the individual if you're doing
it to be seen of men yeah hopeful for
glory sake and it is what it is but if
you want someone to be encouraged now yo
people not seeing enough good and I
think this is something people should
see there who am I to judge you know
what I'm saying yeah yeah it kind of
works both ways for sure I think it's a
matter of the heart but I mean we're
kind of kind of doing that with with the
hip hop right like something that you
know people look at
as evil I mean they're still even people
like in like old school people in the
church who say you know God can't use
hip-hop and yet there's no such thing as
Christian hip-hop that's an oxymoron and
all of these kind of things and it's
like no God is alive and and and he's
using Christian hip-hop to go into
communities transform lives and to
present the gospel and in ways like that
so it's look what the enemy meant for
harm you know we can take it and in turn
use it for good and that's definitely
happened with Christian hip-hop and
music and things right I agree I agree
you and I are living proof it's not only
allowed us to come into platforms and
into arenas that we may not have usually
walked in but I also get therapy by it
knowing that every time I open my mouth
in my art form I'm giving glory to God
and I'm trying to uplift and encourage
my neighbor we come from a culture where
the dark yeah okay you hear me still
yeah I got you guys to go in okay cool
no I just my phone rung and I hate when
it does that sometimes it knocks me out
but um
rap music can be used apparently it's
not just that the artists who have
responsibility but the consumer as well
people are clamoring for duck to be
entertained by darker elements of man's
thought that is uh that is shared by his
mouth as Christ said in the fornication
and when you can listen to some rap
music what are you hear I was even
listenin to country music recently guy
talking about going to the bar meeting
some girl and they having a good time
that night then getting in his pickup
truck and they going to
the overwatch cliff somewhere and
they're gonna make out really that's
fornication so even though it may not
seem as brash to people that thing is
coming to a lot of music you know I
remember my mom and him used to say oh
that stuff y'all listening to that ain't
music all that nonsense and all that
violence this is music I'm like well who
was was Marvin Gaye talking about his
wife when he was saying and let's get it
on was Teddy Pendergrass talking about
his wife when he said turn out the
lights you know I forget the singer had
a song called I'm the cleanup man
meaning when men treat they women wrong
I'm the guy who come behind them and
have an affair what they wife and make
her feel good all of this is wicked
hip-hop just gets more - you know R&B
you know it will easily whether it's R&B
country pop you can sing a song that has
a great message how so long we'll turn
around and tell us we can't rap and give
good morality and good substance and
thought-provoking edifying of words and
concepts through the music you and I are
living through for that along with many
others you mentioned you know this is
different entertainment and stuff like
that so I know there was a time when I
took myself really seriously like as far
as my ministry because I knew the power
my mandate you know and what we're doing
with the music and things like that and
and I didn't want to use that that term
entertainer entertainment I wanted you
know I wanted to you know we it's so
much more but when you look at it the
power that Entertainment has over people
to influence and to sway the thoughts
and the perceptions and to release you
know notions and personas into the land
bro like entertainment is a powerful was
there ever a time or do you have like
what's your relationship with your music
your ministry being a form of
entertainment well I don't mind it
because the word entertainment
in space and hold their attention and
get them to focus on a point you want to
make that's what the movie does I want
you to cry because of this movie you
know this young girl was kidnapped and
she eventually got away from her
kidnapper and in the end she lived
something like that right it entertains
you meaning it brings you into the
narrative so that it can make the point
and it actually complain your emotion so
I don't get to choose who who sees what
I do as mere entertainment because once
I had a teacher who had this statement
and I use it all the time
shout-out to him he said if you make a
cake and put it on the table once people
get a slice they get to tell you how it
takes you you you it to you I made a
good cake and put it on the table some
people will take a slice and say yo this
is too rich this is way too sweet some
people will be like oh I don't like this
at all and to some people it tastes
great so on my new album that's actually
shameless plug I have a new project
dropping tomorrow on our digital
platforms called assault and you could
go anywhere and listen to it but if you
want to download it you could get it for
free at hog mob h OG mo be VanCamp
commie you could get the entire project
for free as a download arm in the intro
I say um you would you would be wasting
your time trying to tell me God ain't
real and he ain't merciful
I appreciate the folks who listened when
I let the verses go some of y'all are
edified some of you are entertained some
of y'all offended either way for me is
personal so people are going to choose
oh this is just some great music and
they just entertain but eventually it
will turn into edification and now it
becomes more of that for them so I'm not
looking to only entertain them but
anyone who would put music or fill out
under and would ignore the fact that
what
you're doing is you're putting it in the
realm of plateau of a presentation that
people would call entertainment then I
believe you'd be fooling yourself it is
more than that for me it is ministry for
me it's a service I'm hoping it will
edify the save and it will encourage the
loss to consider Christ but I know that
for a lot of people when they first get
it it's just gonna be like anything else
oh I like to beat this kid got skill oh
this is pretty good and then they start
to get they hear the message and through
time what was just mere entertainment
becomes actual important intake of
something good and so I just pray that
in the end if it does start out as
entertainment that it will end up as
editing yeah and I know you know I mean
you've got your own life that you can
look back you know what I'm saying the
own examples that you have and then
you've been doing it so long that the
testimonies that you get of lives that
have been impacted and changed because
of just simply music you know what I'm
saying it's the mess it's the message
that's in the music but um I remember
years ago we were in Christian a
hardcore singing doing hardcore metal
music and it's in in you know we would
go to all the shows and it was all the
big bands and in at the time all of the
big underground bands were Christian
bands and some of them weren't just like
all the way open with their message
there was just like it was weaved
throughout their music right and I
remember this one kid who would come to
every show and he'd go see all the big
bands and stuff like that he'd come see
our stuff and we'd hang out at shows and
I and I exchanged numbers with him and
one day he called me and everything just
clicked he's been going to all these
shows and buying the merch and listening
to all the albums and one day it clicked
that they were all singing about Christ
even though they were talking about
quite who Christ is to them their own
struggle metaphors of Christ I mean just
whatever just that their daily struggle
and then looking to a higher power God
and it clicked for him and he's like man
God has been pursuing me through this
music and I didn't even know and he gave
us a lot
to the Lord like you know I'm saying he
made a decision and it was there the
whole time through the music that was
that was so powerful man and so uh you
know say music is powerful entertainment
is powerful people want to look at it
like we're just because I think even in
the church around me Christian rap early
on we were just kind of call it on
sometimes to come entertain the children
you know something for the little kids
and stuff you know even let the look you
know we I think we write the music for
the D boys we write the music for the
drug dealers we you know all that kind
of stuff but then we get to the churches
and it's just a bunch of little you know
toddlers or you know kids in elementary
school and where we have these really
deep aggressive stories and stuff and
metaphors and wordplay and it's just
these little kids and stuff it's like
man we got a you know I've definitely
been through that in certain churches
right you know and outreaches and stuff
and uh but you got to understand that
the Internet and the power of music like
he goes out man and it does what it's
supposed to do you know yes right that's
right so you mentioned seven man how did
you hook up with hog mob oh you know
what's interesting back in 2014 2014
late 2014 no no no no I'm sorry back in
September of 2013 I went to this event
in New York City call it Kingdom Choice
Awards okay put on by uh our kingdom
time media shout out to my bro Marcus
hall these remember the narrator of that
platform and there's the and it still
happens every year it's one of the
dopest events that happens that just
gives glory unto God in it and gives us
a pat on the back to our fellow laborers
and the music rail videographers stuff
like that promoters and I went into this
eventing was inspired so when I came
back home me and some of my brothers got
together and before this uh this we we
formed a little platform called I see
you and you know and I see you is when
someone
in with heavy trauma to the body they
you know they get worked on by doctors
and then they get put in the intensive
care unit to save their life and so we
took the concept to put on events and
use the event to say yo the hearts of
men are hurting and just as you were
waxing poetic a minute ago about the
power of this thing we're doing
we know that through this art form
through live concerts and and having the
right host and bringing good artisan we
can encourage people in the church
because one thing that people forgive
bro is that that just because you come
unto Christ now I believe that Satan
fight comes at you harder he want to see
if you like wheat like Jesus told Peter
because he knows how good of the soldier
you were for him he wants you back so we
need to remember that all the gifts of
Christ are for the body and not just for
us to show those outside who we are in
the Lord but to make sure that we keep
the Brotherhood tight in the body tight
just as my hand is tight to my wrist in
my arm and so as we were started we
started doing these Christian hip-hop
events every three months
my guys sail out a corner whose part of
God over money shadow got over money say
Lockhart me this was late 2014 he said
hey bro I got a big homie of mine coming
out - coming out this summer which was
the summer of 2015
he's coming out this summer to do um two
weeks of touring on the East Coast he
asked us to hook him up with a couple of
people who solid out here he said you
wanted the only people I thought that I
can trust that you and bro would
probably get along so I said well who is
he he said his name is seventh row in
2014 I hadn't heard of seven he I said
well send me some leads he sent me some
links I checked there now I was like wow
this dude is pretty dope and I really
became impressed his music was good but
when I saw a clip of bro doing a
presentation of the gospel he's
preaching the gospel
in Australia and you know seven comes he
will he was formally out of gang culture
and so for someone to have that Street
urban look like him but when I heard him
preach the message of salvation I knew
that the Holy Spirit was dealing with
his brother
I told se la so you'll give me his
number
me and Sam got on the phone to make a
long story short we first time talking
on the phone we spoke for about three
hours and at the end the last 10 minutes
of that conversation we talked about him
me possibly bringing him to my city that
coming summer
that's how I met seven in the rest is
history
I didn't know when I met this guy that
we will wind up being brothers in love
in Christ and that he would about a year
and a half later asked me to consider
joining hogg mob ministries to use my
gifts and talents that he had perceived
I had after we have built the
relationship for almost two years but
it's been a great experience
that's awesome and I can attest man just
being on the phone with seven he's one
of the most down-to-earth yet still deep
spiritual rooted in the word dude you'll
ever meet that's that's how that goes if
that goes a long way of being
down-to-earth and still being one of the
brothers but yet still being deep cuz
usually you only get the deep far-out
spiritual you don't say in theological
people and they only want to stay in the
word and ba ba ba ba but he's he's uh
he's down to earth to like you know what
I'm saying so I'm you know I met seven
and I had some long conversations with
him as well and I can definitely attest
and then him preaching the gospel man
again with you I think I'm more of a fan
of poly of his preaching than its music
as well you know what I'm saying cuz
like just because there's a whole
different level he demands your
attention right you know we've been to
many of those and hey especially with
young people teenagers it's hard to keep
their attention short attention spans
and so yeah there's a bunch of clips of
him online
preaching which is pretty pretty amazing
um let's talk about this little bit too
we talked a little bit about it the
Hebrew Israelites I think you said you
kind of were like raised up in that as a
religion maybe as a religion and then as
a nationality a lot of people want to
point that out that it's that there's
two different things or they are the
same thing or whatever so I I ran with
the Hebrew Israelites for some time I
kept kosher and quit doing all the
so-called pagan holidays and those kind
of things and stuff for about eight
years or so and I recently come full
circle to where now I'm I can you know
go to Thanksgiving and Chris in certain
celebrate Christmas with the family and
instead of like staying at home and
fasting and not opening presents and all
that kind of stuff they try to give me a
present I'm trying to give it back to
them you know crazy crazy stuff took it
took it serious for sure anyway I'll
tell you a little bit about that but as
far as you you're concerned with your
involvement with the Hebrew Israelites
and just kind of just kind of talk a
little bit about your Genesis and then
where you are now with the whole thing
well for me at about the age of eighteen
by the time I was 18 I unfortunately
experienced about a good five or six
individuals I know personally as
teenagers being murdered in my
neighborhood guys I played football went
with the school wig getting murdered you
know found in a found in it we looking
for him ain't nobody seen him in two
weeks mama looking for him and wanted to
stop the violence organizations along
with the police eventually found his
dead body inside of an abandoned
building and and then we eventually know
who killed him another kid our age it
was so it was so much going on in the
black community with death poverty the
broken family I unfortunately am I come
from a home where you know in a
neighborhood I grew up in ten of my
friends I ran with from one Street out
of ten young men who knew their
biological fathers and one of them may
see his dad on the weekends and one
actually lives with his mom and dad for
a time us other eight
don't even have relationships with our
biological fathers as you grow up and
you act out and you commit your sin do
your little bit of good in life you
start to have questions because for me
it was like why is this happening with
my people why why is it that when I go
to other parts of the city where weather
you know where blacks and Hispanics
aren't in great numbers
why are them places more peaceful is it
that those people have better minds are
they just better mannered people and so
as I'm having these questions because of
what I'm seeing happen in my community
police beating dudes up and I seen this
stuff grow and the Word of God was
brought to my face and what was
interesting but when you go up to New
York State Pennsylvania New Jersey bro
you are exposed to so much doctrine this
is before the Internet age I'm talking
about mid 90s I was we in my community
5% the five percent nation are the
Nation of Islam the RBG which is the red
back black and green are paying
Africanist movements are Jehovah
Witnesses everywhere handing out
watchtowers and awaits just other
Christian denominations all of this is
being exposed to you in young men and
women are having discussions about
what's the truth it where we should go
forward in life if for some reason out
of all of that and in the late 90s the
five percent nation of gods and Earth's
had a big influence in hip-hop music let
alone in New York where it comes from
where I'm from and in this state and so
for some reason I got attached to a
small group of young men between the
ages of 18 and 20 who was like nah all
of that is garbage the Bible has God's
Word I couldn't confirm it or not but
because for some reason I wound up in
that circle of thinking we were 18 19
oh not going to no-one's Church we in
the Bible and it was in meet a friend of
mine gave me a Bible he had about 10 of
them at his house
I'm 18 he gave me my own Bible and I
went home and I would read the Bible
everyday as much as I could I it took me
about seven months to read from Genesis
chapter 1 to Revelation chapter 22 God
is my witness I read the entire Bible at
18 years old didn't understand a lot of
it but I retained a lot of memory
knowledge of people places events this
guy and a third bro it was no it was
that reading of the Bible that convinced
me in the possibility that many of us
who are called African Americans could
possibly be connected to the children of
Israel because of seeing that their
punishment from God fit almost to a tee
what was happening with the descendants
of those who were brought over here as
Chado went and you know in the colonial
days and so that was my introduction to
the concept and so on in the book of
Isaiah chapter 42 it says that at a
certain time one would surname himself
after Jacob and another with with its
hand he would can inscribe unto the Lord
that verse made me change my name to
Zadok Ben Israel my birth name is Joseph
but I chose the name Zadok because I
read that for three years I just hung
with a circle and we read Bible we
didn't go to no so-called Israelite
cancer nothing so I always tell people
it was the Bible itself that convinced
me of certain things in about three four
years and to it we hooked up with some
individuals who considered themselves
Israel too but they happen to be part of
a group like a little church that
preached this idea and we were like wow
so we weren't enamored we joined them we
were with them for about five years and
then we moved on so just going through
all of that I believe it's God who
brought me through this path and my
belief in Christ was just cemented by
what I already read in the Old Testament
by the time I got to the New Testament
Jesus wasn't some white man's religion
some there's no it just was a seamless
hey now I'm gonna reveal the things that
are in the prophets and so when it comes
to the commandments of God like I do
keep kosher diet
I keep the dietary law I don't eat them
I agree on certain things and that's
because now that I've been freed in
Christ and been justified from our
former sins I am free to practice God
commanded without condemnation of the
law just as others feel they are free to
not have to deal with certain
Commandments because of their armed
justification through Christ it is
through Christ Liberty that I can look
at the righteousness in his our
commitment in the commandments of God as
it says in the book of Revelation on
that he will give a reward to those who
keep the commandments of God and the
testimony of Jesus Christ so I'm a
full-out blown Christian Nazarene
Messianic whatever word people prefer to
use to describe someone believes that
Jesus the Christ is the rebuild
salvation and not only the Son of God
but the manifestation of God in the
flesh then that's what I am whatever
word is comfortable for people as long
as you identify me as belonging with ya
that's why I was gonna ask you to so you
know about just the term Christian like
do you feel comfortable with that you
know there's so many people who are so
deep that they'd you know even using the
name Jesus or being identified as a
Christian like that they're so deep that
they could they won't allow you know
those words to come out their mouth or
whatever you know yeah no I was just
saying that I was going down what's
gonna be my next question just ask you
about the Christian thing like dude
would you call yourself a Christian do
you identify with that term or even the
name Jesus because like a lot of
so deep that they won't even identify
with that term you know they could give
it they give it over to Western as
Christianity and just because they you
know what what we've had like all of
this stuff in this conception is
beautiful to get back to the roots of it
and I think that's what Hebrew roots
movement and Messianic Judaism and all
of these the Hebrew Israelites I think
they're even trying to do that they may
have it may not be doing it the best but
at least they're trying so you got to
give them some kudos for that and that's
something that's always been you know
say in my heart was to get to this stuff
in his conception before it was messed
up by the West before it was mixed with
everything you know and my heart is
still there so that's also man so uh
what are some of the things like in like
the Hebrew Israelites for whatever that
you would distance yourself from I mean
there's a lot of stuff in it versus just
thrown the baby out with the bathwater
like what are just some of the things
that you would you know I mean obviously
majority people want to hear that term
they think that white man is the devil
you know what I'm saying I mean there's
a good there's some good arguments for
that I'll say that for sure
but what is what is uh what what are
some of the things that you separate
yourself from when it comes to that
doctrine I know the same could be said
for a Christian what do you separate
yourself from when it comes to the term
Christian what does what do you separate
yourself from when it comes to being a
spiritual individual like any of that
stuff but just I guess specifically with
Hebrew is realized what are some of the
the dogmatic things that you're not a
part of well I will say this first
because you brought up a point as you
were getting into this are as you were
segue I'm a Christian and I'm and I'll
let it be known Jesus is acceptable that
term that word because I understand
where it comes from I'm not going to get
into a long but all that oh there was no
letter J yeah and or in color or Zeus
that doesn't come loose yeah it's so
much bad doctrine out here that all I
can say is that over the two decades
I've been saved I sit in a circle I
don't depend on my own thought and so
from our research and understanding that
we believe has been led by the Ruach of
God we are other conclude
that all of this is acceptable we will
not allow the term Christian verses
being called you don't see me I don't
call myself a Christian I just call
myself a follower of the way yeah okay
yeah there was no J in the English yes
it was a J now if we want to find out
why the character Jim
there was no distinct character letter J
from the letter I
but the J sound was always there all of
that is easy to prove but and so I just
wanted to let everyone know I am a
Christian Hebrew Israelite does not
describe my belief because if because if
you're Chinese and you don't believe in
God what do they call you an atheist
right so so if I claim Hebrew I'm
claiming it as an ethnic identity then
I'm the Hebrew and if I don't believe
God what am i an atheist so Hebrew
doesn't describe my belief in worldview
necessarily it describes an ethnic
identity unto myself so as far as me I'm
letting people know that now outside of
that for some people being a Jew or
being an Israelite as a religion so I'll
give you a comparative analysis dr.
Michael Brown a great Christian
apologist and a fellow believer um he is
a Jew by ethnicity but he identifies as
Christian in belief system yet Jerry
Seinfeld the comedian is a Jew by ethnic
identity but people don't use to to
identify him
religiously yeah because there's a such
thing as a secular Jew meaning I'm not
religious I'm not into all of that
I'm just Jew because I come from a
people group that claimed to be Jew but
then there are those who are said to be
Jew because they practice Torah or
rabbinical Judaism in the same way
people have to apply that to the Hebrew
Israelite construct so when it comes to
the religion that is called Hebrew
Israel ISM I am NOT one and I want
people to know there are some things
that if you go to Africa if you go to
other places in the world where people
identify as Hebrew Israelites the white
man being the devil stuff and all of
that that is not something you ever hear
talk that that comes out of a bad
doctrine that has its roots in New York
City beside of a particular group and
that particular group in the year 2000 a
prophecy didn't come to pass and that
group broke up over a 10-year period
they broke up into about ten or twelve
smaller groups all who all competed for
who had the truth all of them teach
basically the same thing but they all
broke up from being the one big group so
what has happened is in the age of the
internet from about 2010 to now yeah
those particular groups waged war on
each other through YouTube posting their
so-called street evangelism or on the
internet trying to show up each other
and in the process individuals from all
around the country started to become
enamored with that from final that anger
that almost in some ways in the
hierarchal type of attitude toward the
system and then of course with the anger
that is built up in a lot of young
impoverishment they started to identify
and put their troubles on the system and
not take responsibility for their own
evil equal and so that particular brand
guys standing on a corner with that say
that white Jesus image is the devil's
work and then they got a superhero
wrestler looking Marvel comic yeah God
like just painting something black
looking is better
white people are evil and they even call
white they call it they call Caucasian
brothers john esau if you hear any of
that understand that me and the circle
and the majority of Hebrew Israelites in
America don't agree with that doctrine
and for some of you who didn't find out
about these groups until you've seen
them on an internet back in 1997 me and
my brothers were debating with these
particular factions out of the Israelite
community the same way that summer for
Christians or even Pentecostal on
brethren we'll probably go back and
forth with a Klansmen who would call
themselves a Christian yet will preach
hate and separation of ethnic groups and
stuff like that
that's what something you mentioned
Klansmen I think that's a good segue for
me because when I got really deep into
the Hebrew Israelite stuff the Klansmen
stuff is what kind of brought me out of
it kind of it kind of brought me back to
a reality just just a little bit more
because I got really big into the
nationality I was doing my own research
about I wanted to know more about my
native american heritage used to live on
the the indian reservation and my mom's
side we go to the powwow every year and
you know all that but i didn't know much
about the heritage and so I started
looking it up and I remember the movie
Apocalypto came out and it's like even
that was more Mayan it was still just
kind of showing you some of the for sure
and yeah man I was good Psalms when I
was doing my research and looking up
stuff and and then finally I was I was
just watching some video on on YouTube
back in like 2006 or so and it was some
brothers on the street wearing all white
preaching and then they were talking
about the Illuminati and stuff like that
but then he's like he's preaching and he
says this goes out to you Israel Israel
is the dark-skinned oppressed people on
the earth and he's like he started
naming on me something and he said the
Native American Indian which is from the
tribe of GAD and I have been doing all
this research and stuff and when he said
that something's shifted in my spirit I
boom I felt the Holy Spirit so wha this
is deep sigh okay you I want to know
more so I started linking in with those
people who were in Philadelphia out
preaching on the street and I'm in
Alabama so I'm linking it with them over
the internet 2006/7 I'm already into
Messianic Judaism right by keeping the
law and eating kosher and all those kind
of things I got into that as a Christian
but then I linked in with those guys and
got really deep into their classes and
studying and we ended up paying those
like paying for flights for them guys to
come down and teach on the streets in
mobile I actually linked in with early
on it was the light and body of Christ
Church but eventually they had a split
and it became the gathering of Christ
church elder rákóczi are I'm not sure if
you know much about him but we had a few
run-ins unfortunately I loved his heart
but Ian had said he had a few false
prophecies oh yeah no no so that's when
I kind of woke up was like during the
whole time of like because I'm I went to
Atlanta preached on the streets with
them brothers brought you know flew him
down here and we had our own sect here
in Mobile and we'd go out on the streets
and I wearing all white you know doing
our thing and so really big on the
nationality side of it and and one thing
them brothers taught me how to study the
Scriptures man they really taught me how
to dissect that Bible dude and I and I
really appreciate that because I didn't
learn that in church they don't they
teach you one take one scripture and
what's it mean to you today which is
good too but they taught me how to tear
that Bible love man for sure but I got
really deep into that and there's a
bunch of long stories with it but they
started preaching we need to leave
Babylon there the message went from
repentance and you know it's pointing
out what the enemy is doing in Hollywood
and all this kind of stuff and the
illumine they would expose the
Illuminati which was all new to me at
the time but their message shifted from
that to we got to leave Babylon Babylon
is America and they'll show you what why
babylons America you know looking at the
the New World Order stuff and all the
satanic symbols in in Hollywood and
satanic symbols in and in the government
on our dollar and all the stuff and
showing you how this place is wicked and
God's coming back to destroy America so
we have to make sure we're out of the
country when he does that and so they
were reading of the epochal
in saying that there was one place where
we would be protected and Abraham's
bosom or something anyway we're the
children of Israel were protected in the
in the wilderness we have to go back
there and that's where Christ comes back
and God's people anyway
damn I wasn't resonated with that at all
you know they in that that became like
their main focus that we got to leave
America and all of our phone calls all
of their preaching and on the streets
was trying to get people telling hey
this place is fixing to go down in
flames
the bombs were fixing a drop and they
will go read in Revelations about the
stars falling and falling and saying
that the stars were bombs that were
being dropped on America and Babylon was
destroyed in our totally bad
interpretations of the scripture but
very sensational
oh man it's about me it's about us it's
about us it's fixing to happen and any
time you know people preach that it
really feels it makes you [Â __Â ] you up
you're in it and anyway I was into that
I started pulling back a little bit but
then I would go to work and I started
working in Mississippi with some people
and um I brought my Bible to work and we
were talking about the true Jews who was
the true Jews and and I was like yeah
them the people in the land right now
aren't the true Jews and I say yup
revelations 2 now revelations 3 and I
you know there are those who say the
other the children Israel but they are
the synagogue of Satan he's like yeah
you know what you're talking about
these are white guys and uh so I'm going
back and forth with them and like oh man
they might know who the true Jews are
and we've got to sit down to talk about
it I'm trying to show them how the
blacks or the Israelites and the Native
Americans and this kind of stuff and he
brought do brought his Bible to work and
he got from Genesis to Revelation all
the text highlighted to where the white
man is the Israelite and how God is
dealing righteously with the white
people from Genesis to Revelation and I
would debate them and we would argue on
the job and we wouldn't even do work we
go to work just a debate and argue with
these guys I know my stuff and they
would stump me on stuff and it was
stumping and I would go back and call
ricard and I would call brother rum and
I'll call these brothers in New York and
Phil in LA man this is what they told me
man
I don't know what to say and it would
stump them it would stump them because
they didn't know what to say like these
big teachers in the Israelite movement
were like man I think the Lord got to
work for you brother and it would give
me like half answers that didn't make
sense I'm like come on man like and I'll
go back but it really at the end of the
day made me think like man they got a
lot of stuff that if you're studying the
Bible with this in mind and this is your
worldview like it becomes real the way
that you're interpreting these
scriptures that you are the chosen
people bah bah bah bah at the end of the
day those other scriptures that says
stop arguing about genealogy a true Jew
was one inwardly the flesh profiteth
nothing there's like all of those
scriptures started making way more sense
when I was going back with all this
arguing in and trying to get to the
bottom of the truth so that content
those that going back and forth with the
they were in the clan there were Klu
Klux Klan members that I was working
with on a job and they called
card-carrying Klansmen and but yeah I
would out debate them guys till I was
red in the face by Bible any hands just
like you yeah both on the two extremes
of yeah yeah what Scripture is saying
yeah yeah Wow
it was just it was a spitting image of
the New York guys you know I'm saying
except when the black thing it was the
white thing you know all of this you
know we all go through our journey but
the Lord showed me and my brethren we
believe by our devotional Scripture is
if you're truly devoted to understanding
God's Word I think people commit they
can miss like you said the text clearly
says seek and ye shall find search out
for truth like ask for treasure that
means just because that we believe the
Bible is truth just because you open it
and read it don't mean that you've
searched it for understanding and it is
the Holy Spirit with a pure heart that
brings understanding in my opinion and
as I went through all of these phases of
life
I it was brought to the realization that
hey if you okay so let's just say you
could take a DNA testing 23andme
ancestry.com African ancestry
what if they sent you back a test saying
you're 1000% related to Abraham
literally by genetics does that make you
righteous does that mean that you've
repented does that mean that you've
accepted the atoning work of the Father
through the presentation in a revealing
of his son who we called Jesus the
Christ or in the Hebrew realms
some of us called referred to a master
yahushua or you how shy the messiah the
the answer is no and as Peter said in
Acts chapter 10 if he understood it now
with the power of the Holy Spirit that
God is no respecter of persons
yeah but in all nations those who work
righteousness are accepted with him
the spirit revealed that broke and I
understood yo man it don't matter what
ethnicity you believe you're from if
you're a son of Adam and you don't
repent and accept the father's salvation
through Christ then you'll just be a
Hebrew Israelite suffering the eternal
punishment just as a Russian or an Asian
or somebody from South America whatever
whatever ethnicity you want to name
whatever skin colour if you don't repent
and come unto the Father
I don't care where you from and as the
spirit revealed that we understood so
people get it twisted I don't run around
waste spending my time preaching about
being a Hebrew Israelite that's a
personal conviction to me I preached the
gospel yeah I don't baptize people into
being a Hebrew Israelite because I can't
hide that that's not the gospel let me
let me get your opinion on this man
because I've kind of like um
I spoke out a comment Adan on Facebook
and I usually don't
I usually don't comment on stuff that I
don't agree with but a friend of mine
posted this picture and it had a caption
on it
the picture was Kirk Franklin the
Christian gospel artists holding an
elderly Billy Graham's hands and kissing
his hands and and they took a picture of
that and somebody put a caption on it
and says this is what happens when you
look at your oppressors as the image of
God or whatever and then some friends
started commenting on it and that's a
whole lot man y'all out of line just
he's honoring that brother for his
service to to what he's done for the the
greatest evangelist to the greatest one
of the biggest preachers of the gospel
of our day and exactly I said I said
that's honor
they started mocking me and you know
this is an honor this is idolatry and I
was like man y'all out-of-pocket for
posting the y'all claim you claim Christ
and you posted this first of all it's
got some some racist stuff on it you
know as far as the caption but what he's
doing and I didn't understand like
Christians greeted each other with the
kiss in the scriptures they kissed each
other a lot of people believe it was on
the lips some say on the cheeks I'm
saying on the lips I've never took part
in a foot washing a Christian foot
washing but this past weekend somebody
wanted to wash my feet before they left
and even I've kind of standoffish to it
I like I was like sure man if that's
what it was and it was an honor thing
cuz I brought honor what you're
contributing what God is doing in your
life I'm a servant I'm a brother I'm
linked in with you and so when I seen
that picture it was beautiful and it for
people to say that it really rubbed me
the wrong way what would you say Curt
franking of Franklin a black man kissing
the hands of an elderly dying Billy
Graham before he passed and I'll tell
you what
Johnny Lucas put out a song recently
about Will Smith in and the emphasis was
give them that their flowers while
they're still alive honor them while
they're still here you gonna wait till
they die but like man he was a good guy
bro not honor these people why these
here man while he can appreciate it you
know what I'm saying what would you say
bro I would say the asinine stupidity of
humanity shows itself at the worst times
that's what I'd say
because if Martin Luther King never
would have been assassinated who stood
hand-in-hand with Billy Graham to give
an african-american the opportunity to
it Billy Graham was as instrumental in
the civil rights legislation passing as
Martin Luther King and most people don't
want to actually admit that but you
can't pull the wool over my eyes because
I'm a student of history I have to be if
Martin Luther King wouldn't have been
assassinated and right now Martin Luther
King probably been about his oldest
Billy Graham was when he passed away if
Kirk Franklin would have been hole in
the hands of Martin Luther King kissing
him while he was on his deathbed this
wouldn't even be a conversation and
that's all I got to say and that's what
hypocrisy and those people he honored
elder brother in the faith but see
people are proving how racist they are
and how presidents they are in their own
heart I don't care what the color of
that man hands was I can only show
affection in the flesh toward the spirit
that I perceived emanating out of a man
his skin color had nothing to do with it
and I'm telling you right now for all of
them people who made that comment if
Martin Luther King would have never been
assassinated and would've died in old
age like Billy Graham cuz what do you
think my luther king would have
continued to do he would continue to be
the most famous african-american
preacher and in the country and would
have been a part of almost anything that
we see leading up to this point the same
way people were seeing al Sharpton or
Jesse Jackson and if and if King was on
his deathbed how about what would they
have to say if Billy Graham was still
alive and Martin was passing before him
they both owed and Billy Graham come to
the bedside of his brother in Christ who
he stood with to help the
african-american collective
what if billy graham would have held
Martin's hands as Martin was dying and
him saying brother
we don't ran your race I love you and
I'll see you soon and he would have
kissed Martin Luther King's hands how
would they had caption that damn
hypocrites forgive me I got a little bit
upset no I did too I don't usually
comment on that stuff I usually just
kind of chalk it up and just kind of
keep keep a mental note of who posted it
you know what I'm saying to see what
kind of person you are but I commented
on it I said some things I shouldn't
have but it got me you know what I'm
saying
but maybe I should have maybe I cause
it's a satire bro it's a time for
everything
for sure times you got to say what you
got to say yeah um little stuff like
that they take jabs and here's something
else that's been in the news too
the lead singer from a Christian band
Hawk Nelson which these guys made a
little bit of noise in the mid-2000s
have not been relevant in a long time he
comes out and says he doesn't believe in
God anymore all of the big headlines
pick it up it's like they're looking for
a reason to blaspheme that noble name by
which you're called they're like this
guy hasn't been relevant in a long time
but he came out publicly said hey I
don't believe in God no more guys and
all the major news stations are running
with this person with this and it's
strange ain't it but that's just like
with what the enemy is doing looking for
reasons to blaspheme looking for reasons
to make fun of of Christianity of the
gospel right what it is we live in that
age and I believe that the hypocrisy of
the so-called body of Christ collective
in this country earns pushback and it
earns the enemies of righteousness
looking for an opportunity because
whether people want to admit it or not
just as David was told by the Prophet
Nate you by your by your wrongdoing you
gave the enemies of God an opportunity
to blaspheme the Christian collective
with its separation is denominational
bickering it's racial divide Martin
Luther King is quoted as saying that's
afternoon Sundays in America is the most
segregated time of the week because all
other believers in Christ separate to
their ethnic ethnically divided church
homes our hypocrisy our lack of love
okay if you believe the homosexual is
wrong for their lifestyle choice if you
believe some women and men are making a
wrong decision the wrong decision in
abortion okay if you believe that it's
one thing to point it out and say hey
man this ain't right
but you follow that up with but I love
you and if you need help yo yo come bill
that's never said so at the end of the
day all I can tell you is is that we as
believers are unfortunately a part of a
greater thing that gets frowned upon
because it tells the world
y'all wicked and then the world turns
around and sees all of your wickedness
and you look just like it so you look
fake to the world and so in the world
fine opportunities they'll stab you with
the little thorn like ah ha yeah I'm not
so perfect yeah I'm not so unblemished
how are you trying to portray yourselves
and that's unfortunate but it is what it
is that's true very true man speaking of
you know given the the roses while
they're still here I remember I'm just
where was the last week week before
Lecrae Tim Tebow and another minister
did a video I guess they went to see
Ravi Zacharias who wasn't doing very
well and and kind of say hey make sure
you guys let him know what his family
know while he's still here
he's not looking too good that uh you
know what what his ministry what his
efforts means to you and as soon as I
seen the video I made sure I posted one
hashtag Thank You Ravi and and he died
shortly after what did it was it was he
somebody that you maybe looked up to as
far as the way he handles the scriptures
and apologetics and stuff for me it
definitely was man I couldn't argue with
much I heard Ravi talk about over the
years
yes I had nothing but love for him I
called him Robby the Super Saiyan that's
among me and my brothers that was an
ongoing joke and not a joke at him but
we're just saying this was the man who
could be questioned in front of a
roomful of 20,000 in his and in his his
responses in his thought process second
to none and one thing he did was I
believed he caused a lot of brothers
especially in Ch H Michael appraised and
others and I seen conversations between
him and our brother Emanuel Lambert aka
the truth shout out the truth where them
coming out of heavily reformed
backgrounds and Ravi coming out of a
more charismatic Pentecostal background
it show that apologetics and theology no
certain denomination or persuasion of
Christianity has a monopoly on defending
the gospel and in their ability to
disseminate truth a lot of reformed
people didn't like Ravi because he
turned on the head some of the things
that they would try to claim in a
superiority and biblical interpretation
are narrative and I just loved the fact
that he defended his stance as well but
he loved and opened his hand to every
persuasion of belief if you claim to be
a believer in God he gave you the
benefit of the doubt and would sit down
with you and treat you as a brother and
I think that will forever miss
individuals like him as we find
ourselves just needing more examples
like that in society so shout out the
great brother and may his crown be given
him if the Lord fine can fit amen
well said Burwell said um talk a little
bit about the new album that drops
tomorrow for those who are listening to
this live on you on YouTube Facebook or
whatever you guys will be able to get
the new album tomorrow the new album is
is an entitled salt what's the
inspiration behind I know from a
Christian perspective I understand what
what salt means but what's
we got a lot of unbelievers listening to
what the what does even that title mean
for the album well shout out
first of all shout out this platform I
appreciate you having me on a day
brothers it's great to do this and to
all of those who are listening in who
may not consider yourselves of believers
in a particular God that me and my
brother served
are we still thank you for having the
heart to listen to our heart and
understand that we would do the same if
we were in your presence and you spoke
because at the end of the day the
morality of men in the efforts to
understand the purpose of life and do
and do what's right it's a universal
thing I just believe that you know for
some who come out of Hinduism Buddhism
they're you know that they're they're
looking for enlightenment they're trying
to reach nirvana and they're trying to
find out what is it that we do and I
believe that goes beyond the simple
meditation of man trying to quiet
himself the only thing that has been
able to quiet me is the Holy Spirit of
God and so it is that light of the world
that has given me and like in in my
conscience it causes me to walk as I
walk and it's the same for my brother
here so first of all just want to let
all of them who are listening know it is
never too late for you to say to God
show me who you are because whether you
know it or not you're actually calling
for him with your attempt at being
spiritual in some kind of way you're
trying to tap into the source in the
essence of life and we call and that
word is God meaning the power you're
looking to be tapped into that power I
believe we understand who that power is
this album is called salt it once again
it'll be available tomorrow Friday May
29th all all streamable platforms if you
want to actually download it for free go
to hog mob that's h OG m OB r dot
VanCamp calm for the free download the
inspiration behind the album is this
while we know all the various uses of
salt literally it's a preservative it's
a healing agent it rehydrates a body
that's depleted of its sources and it
also flavors thing that are just plain
to the taste on Christ told the church
the believers have salt among yourselves
and I want to encourage those who claim
to be of God while we point to the
outside world you know you it's
comfortable sitting from your perch
talking about how evil they are who are
they those who aren't us that's easy to
do but how often do you check in and tap
in and find the flaw in yourself it's
like looking at your TV you got
something in the mirror you don't try to
get it off you got a stain on your shirt
you'll try to change your shirt in that
same manner we are told that judgment
starts at God's house so now I'm
believers who are listening it and
believers understand this God doesn't
God doesn't say that his judgment starts
with those who don't know him he holds
to account more those who claim to know
him and this project is to paint at the
believer to encourage the believer in
love to truly love one another because
while you're in your flesh you still had
a propensity to hold a grudge to not
forgive just as much as anyone who would
claim to not know the Lord so that's
really what it is God said be sure that
you have salt within yourselves and
peace among yourselves as being brothers
and I want to remind so-called
Christians we better get it right among
ourselves so that the look so that the
world you know you're now enter with
this bro you know how when you were a
child you did something wrong but when
you were approached about why did you do
it
you were point to the other people who
did wrong as if well they was doing it
and so yo that's how the world is and
that's how Humanity is and if Christians
claim to be the true belief
Seavers then the world go look at you
and so when they look at us they better
see love they better see patience they
better see long-suffering and a better
see a genuine care and concern for one
another because that's the only thing
that will convince them that we might
possibly be hitting up on anything so
that's really the spirit of the album
salt hey man that's it man will I listen
to some of the songs that were on the
album already and I listen to radiate is
that the new video that you just dropped
this morning like six hours ago
something like that enjoyed it yeah it's
good Sam oh and again the artist you had
featured on there was dope to whose
Beach shout-out my rebel against the
world family he's our these are an
artist who was a part of the same circle
of artists I'm in from upstate New York
yeah so I always try to make sure I get
a couple of month homegrown fellow
laborers to get some shine too he said
he's definitely a serious about his walk
with the Lord that's my brother that's
what's up man that's what's up so again
they can go to the hog mob Bam Bam camp
to get it for free or it's gonna be
streaming Spotify iTunes where it DS or
wherever you listen to music is gonna be
right yes sir for sure man well brother
man I appreciate you coming on hanging
out with me man really enjoyed building
with you and again when we talked on the
phone yesterday for a minute I was like
well it's just I like to hold back
because I don't want it to be organic
you know just kind of getting to know
one another on camera and other people
being able to kind of sit in on that as
well man so it was good building with
with your brother like my number in I'm
a brother man anytime you need me you
want to just need somebody to talk to
roll some ideas off of I'm here bro so
lot my number in and it was good
building with you anytime you want to
come back on a bill bro I'm down to do
it so just hit me up no I appreciate it
truth and everything you said there at
the end
that's reciprocal bro lock me in and
we'll see what happens as I as I was
told by one dear brother and I'll never
forget it he said hey man it's right now
while we're alive there's over 7 billion
other people on this planet
so I don't take for granted who God lets
you actually meet and talk to don't take
that for granted so I don't take this
for granted though I appreciate your
time and your platform thank you
I enjoy the brother anything else before
we go man anything else you want to plug
any other subjects that we didn't want
to talk talk with did we didn't talk
about that you want to speak on I'm good
for time I just let me know
you know what I'll just say this we have
to remember that we die daily in Christ
and I and I want to say this to anyone
who's listening so that they can
understand what it is that you and I are
claiming we're claiming that all the
things that we've done all the
fornication all the lying all the kenai
all the wicked thoughts all the drug
addiction everything that we've been a
part of that we within ourselves without
anybody telling us we knew that a lot of
this wasn't good that's why when I went
to go mess with a woman I shouldn't be
messing with I did it under the cover of
darkness I don't want to be seen that
just the way I went about it let it be
no I don't want role that's how you know
what sin is man and this cuz that's
right I have had a difficult time all in
my life just being able to all my own
efforts get away from it maybe some
people believe they can stop some things
cold turkey shout out to them but I know
a lot of people who didn't get away from
their crack addition there are opioid
addiction their alcoholism until they
went to a particular group setting of
others who are fighting that struggle to
help them I found that in the body of
Christ and anyone who's listening man if
you are trying whatever you're trying
and you feel it's not working
i adjure you pray God go wherever you
have privacy and talk to God because I
tell people only one or two things is
happening there is truly a power that
hears you and been waiting for you to
ask or there is no God you're in a room
by yourself and you just talking to
yourself and you'll eventually realize
you look foolish but you won't be
embarrassed because what nobody around
to see it but you anyway I think he
always responds man I tell people I tell
them to do it with the scriptures like
they want to have a mystical experience
they want to know God listen ask him to
reveal himself to you pick up them
scriptures and start reading and if you
say that within you're really honest
that you want to come into an encounter
in a relationship 100% just like he did
you picking it up from Genesis to
Revelation he revealed his glory his
love to you and and in you as well not
to you but also in you Christ in me the
hope of glory man appreciate this this
conversation brother thanks for coming
on hanging out with me would definitely
do it again bro Shalom Shalom Grace and
peace Israel peace Israel is a dot
everybody go cop his new album stream it
amazing artists I've been listening to a
lot of his music this morning definitely
have heard his name throughout the years
and putting out good quality content
works with seven a lot seven it's
featured on a bunch of his stuff really
deep concepts that he brings to the
table in and describing and articulating
it with the wordplay and doing it for
good good message good cause man to just
spread the knowledge of Christ through
the earth what about what greater causes
there than that so shout out to that
brother
really good conversation I hope you guys
enjoyed it hope y'all enjoyed building
rum real good shout out to the chat man
reading this some of the chat here
Christy thank you for the donation my
friend you rock Janelle says she was
talking about the word Network and it's
interesting that you brought that up
because they've been trying to get me to
uh to get the podcast on the word
network and I've been thinking about it
but she says um let's see
she said she says the word network did
the same thing shaking my head I guess
talking about the race of stuff because
I said I type in chat I said tell me
more
she said the word net network showed
racism the
owners showed himself as a pimp 100% did
blackface and had black preachers around
him we still have to be mindful yeah and
I'm thinking I didn't know that see when
I was considering going joining the
network I didn't know who the owner was
the owner is Mike Murdock which is like
prosperity pimp 101 I remember years ago
you know he'd been on TV in a lot and my
sister she was searching you know it's
up late at night that's what people do
they search this money this money play
infomercials and they try to sell you
stuff in the middle of the night you buy
or stuff on Amazon in middle of the
night they're trying to sell you stuff
in the middle of the night so people to
search him and she goes through TBN and
Mike Murdoch's on there and he's like if
you give the blessing of Isaiah 58 $58
for 58 months God will unlock to you the
blessing of Isaiah 58 upon your life and
we listen to this that sounds so crazy
you know I'm saying like it sounds crazy
for us but a lot of Christians believe
it I know the people who discipled me
early on believe that like they signed
up you know $58 for 58 months
to unlock the blessing of fit Isaiah 58
like I know people who did that and they
truly believe that it works but uh you
know most of us look at that like man
some two and my sister who called me
she's like she's considering being a
Christian man she's looking for God
looking for truths and she finds this
Mike Murdock would you give would you
just give you last five dollars the Lord
will bless you over you know and just
these people begging for your money we
could you know people in it blew my mind
cos my sister who we wouldn't consider
herself really a Christian she could see
through it but the church folks would
eat it up
this kind of stuff and I found out that
Mike Murdock was the he's the owner of
the word Network and I do not like Mike
Murdock at all but they still email me
they still call me trying to get me to
sign up for that for their network and
put me in front of millions of people
and all that kind of stuff which
I don't even I don't think that they can
honestly I feel like they they cheap
their numbers Jin Lee says how do you
spell his name I think Christian hip hop
is radical same with Christ Punk heck
yeah I love Christian punks za why D
okay Zadok where's the duck za y if you
type in that in and type in the God hop
MC which is as YouTube and there's a
bunch of videos there again he's done a
bunch of stuff with seven as well Kristi
Johnson says I quit heroin and cocaine
cold turkey I had to be alone I made it
just me and God yep but you go by
yourself and then you get linked back in
with a community with the church you
know what I'm saying with with
like-minded people what happens if you
quit heroin kotor ki then you go back to
those same people doing heroin now with
that being said God usually cleans you
up and send you back to reach those
people you came from like Joseph Wright
does did that for me does that for so
many people but what if you was to go
back before you really even had a
foundation of studying of learning you
know you really do have to change your
scenery so that's what like linking in
with like-minded people we do it on the
School of the Mystics Thursday nights
you guys can join us tonight which I
remember when I gave my heart to the
Lord and came back to the Lord in 2000
we've tried to go hang out with the same
friends I went and picked this guy up
who I was hanging out with and drinking
and smoking with and stuff like that I
went and picked him up and he got in our
backseat and we just got born again we
wanted to tell him hey man I gave my
life to the Lord and he's like fidgeting
around and it's in his pants like what
you doing man in the back seat and he
pulls out a steak knife I can't trust
nobody Sbrocco I take you home dog like
you can't be having you hanging around
me and my girl like you can't trust
nobody you got knives and stuff hidden
on your person and hold on man so like I
remember we went back home when we pray
who said Lord we need Christian friends
in our life we need some people who love
the Lord in our lives right now more
than ever and we prayed and God opened
up that door and sent people in our
lives who were seeking Him and changed
our life back in 2000 so
for sure you definitely got to find
those people who you can resonate with
people who believed in you always say go
to where you're appreciated not just the
way you're tolerated you know I'm saying
find some people who just who love you
and and who are gonna walk through this
life together with you with your faults
with your glories with your shortcomings
with everything come as you are you know
what I'm saying so that's being a
believer in the body of Christ I really
do believe is about being transparent
and authenticity and so that's where
that's really contagious right now it's
really popular and I think that the
church or people I say Church people who
claim Christ definitely need to get on
that that transparency and authenticity
we're human bro at the end of the day
I'm a human I'm not infallible I'm not
right on everything but I do find out a
piece and just being open and honest and
not being a hypocrite you know what I'm
saying like just as me what you see is
what you get I'm not trying to you know
hide it and any time you think about
hiding it anytime you think about I
don't need to see that's when you need
to bring it to the forefront I think
that's where like trying to cover up
things and not being in the light as he
is in the light that's where the enemy
comes in that's where these thoughts of
the accuser accusation comes in because
you're trying to cover up who you really
are who God has called you to be so
being comfortable within your own skin
knowing that you know there's the two
natures that are alive within you and
and in some days you do good some days
you don't but God loves you regardless
whether you're having a bad day or you
just cussed your boss out wherever you
are
just know that God's love is for you all
you got to do is it's just get in his
presence you know close your eyes pray
take a deep breath in his love is there
it's never left you he'll never leave
you never forsake you and so that's why
I chose Christ or he chose me and that's
why I remain in him because I know his
love for me is radical it's contagious
and I don't have to do anything I get to
do stuff right I get to do a lot of cool
spiritual stuff and
that I like but I don't have to do
anything he's already done it for me so
understanding that man is uh is where
the pieces I'm not accepted I don't even
think that we accept a big if we repent
like I think that his love like while we
were yet sinners his love reached out to
us I think that uh that he he reconciles
all things unto himself at some point
but if you want to step into the kingdom
of heaven
especially now on the earth because it's
alive and we can have access now on
earth as it is in heaven you have to
repent like there's things that you need
to do to throw off your sins and walking
your destiny and be victorious in areas
of your life so trust me that but but I
don't do that to be accepted or loved by
God I do it because I am accepted in
love by God he gets us Grace and the
power to overcome sin and those things
because we're conscious of it so let
that be known that his love for you is
relentless man and there's nothing that
you have to do to earn it you've already
received it so let that empower you with
anything that you need to move forward
in the future to know that you're loved
by God for sure
yeah Brenda here in chat she says we
need to forgive ourselves yeah it's it's
one thing for God to forgive us right
we're forgiven
we're freed the cross has already
happened he loves us
you know it's like getting that flower
he loves me he loves me not he loves me
he loves me not
turn off the petals but with Christ with
God he loves me he loves me he loves me
he loves me he loves you man but you
need to learn to forgive yourself that's
a big one we beat ourselves up we get
into addictions and drinking and pill
addiction and stuff like that trying to
deal with the hurt in the wounds and you
know and it never ends well bring it to
him he'll give you the power to do it
he'll give you the grace to do it I hope
that you guys enjoyed that I really did
love building with that brother for the
first time that's my first time I talked
with him yesterday just kind of building
for a minute but the first time really
building with him
you know I do sevens website so I do hog
mob calm I'm actually the webmaster and
I designed it and all that kind of stuff
so we have a relationship there so make
sure you check out his album download it
for free support it make sure you do
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join us on school of the Mystics tonight
every Thursday night 7 p.m. central man
talk about our men's meeting I guess I'm
talk about it a little bit we had an
amazing time we only had a couple people
who were able to make it we had a we
were sold out as far as the the beds are
concerned but because of kovat 19 a lot
of people had to cancel and and they're
gonna just catch us on the next one so
we have fun I've got to meet some people
for the first time that I've been
building wit for a while
shout out to javi javi two times sorry
two tones who came down he drove and
from Georgia it's like seven eight hour
drive shout-out to Jeffrey moody he
drove seven hours seven and a half and
shoutout to Nico Morales who came and he
drove seven and a half hours and so we
had a great time getting together in the
wilderness walking through the woods and
connecting with each other and then
really waiting for the Sun to go down to
really tap into some some breath work
some intense prayer man it was really
good really good we got to go out
stargazing and seeing some some of the
angels the messengers the chariots of
the Most High and it was we've seen some
phenomenal stuff man that I haven't seen
in a long time that a lot of my music is
about a lot of this stuff and it's been
a while since I've been able to go out
in stargaze and it was right before the
new moon so we went out there and
connected with the father under the open
stars and he just loves to blow our
minds and allow us to see things and so
to be able to do that with brothers for
the first time we had some beautiful
experiences and encounters I just give
you one there was one we were asking
father fer to see a one of his
messengers the Seraphim traveling back
and forth from the night sky the angels
we asked for sightings man and so there
was one that was up pretty high it's
just like it looks like a little piece
of rice that's outside of the atmosphere
and and we're trying to talk to it
asking it to power up because you can
communicate with them they you
communicate with them telepathically
through your thoughts but we're
vocalizing hey can you can you can you
give us a boost can you give us a power
up and it was going across the night sky
all sorry it went out right when we
asked it can you give us a power up and
sound bright went out was I oh man come
on bro come on give us a power up and
all of sudden just out of nowhere looks
really bright like just right there
where it was and shine real but like wow
we were pushing each other I was just so
much joy that we released when we had
that and then it just started like kind
of like playing tag what I said would go
away and it would pop up somewhere else
like right there by it it would blink
and it would go out and move like
probably arms leaning too far you're
looking up at the sky is probably about
a fingers length away or so just in that
area they were popping up saying hello
we've seen a bunch of really cool stuff
that night and it's awesome because you
can go out there at times and not see
anything so for us to be able to go out
there and doing prayer doing meditation
connecting with the Father and
positioning ourselves spiritually to be
able to receive and be able to project
our energy and say hey we're not we're
not harmful we just want to say hello
and in my music you know what I'd say
visitation sparks revival like any type
of spiritual encounter that you have
there's an impartation that comes with
it and so for me it definitely it
changes everything
now I watched the ce-5 documentary last
night which is called Close Encounters
of the fifth kind people are all across
the world going out and doing this and
to hear their stories and to see some of
the footage that people are capturing of
these entities these angels these crafts
and things like that that they're seeing
it will change your life man to know
that heaven is for real
heaven is just not a place that you go
when you die there heaven exists outside
of the Earth's atmosphere past the
heavens past the sky outerspace as we
call it there's a boat of God and the
Angels travel back and forth from heaven
to earth and if you go out there long
enough and ask and train your eyes a lot
of times you can see him so it's just
such a blessing and it uh imparts me
something in your mana came back and
started writing some music messing
around and just trying to be inspired by
it and it was so much fun just
connecting with those brothers and
having them out there for the first time
to be able to see it so we had a blast
our miniature tree we're gonna do
another one it was totally different
than the last one you know they were
both different I've done two so far and
they both were different but both
beautiful and with the people that I
connected with and just even what we did
man so it was awesome and I'm gonna do a
third one here in a couple months most
likely so if anybody wants to get in on
that send me a email INBOX me we'll talk
about it and but I don't have all the
details yet so anyway keep that in your
mind if you want to connect with us we'd
definitely do another one so we had fun
I need to have those buzzers come on and
do a talk with with me and talk about
our experiences so that's what's up with
that I'm gonna say peace and Shalom guys
many blessings to you join us on the
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