Addiction, Religion and The 12 Steps | Marilyn L. Redmond

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In this episode of The TruthSeekah Podcast TruthSeekah speaks with Marilyn L. Redmond about overcoming addiction, religion and the 12-step program. Marilyn Redmond has had her share of ups and downs in life and lived through some pretty traumatic experiences. She is a survivor of intense spousal abuse where her husband tried to kill her on multiple occasions, this led her to substance and alcohol abuse to cope with these intense situations. At her wit’s end Marilyn found solace in the alcoholics Anonymous program and found beauty in the 12-step program as she begin to walk them out. Marilyn now focuses on the spiritual aspects of the steps and uses them to help others overcome their addictions.
At the end of the interview I share some of my personal stories dealing with family members who suffered from alcohol addiction and drug abuse. The story usually does not have a happy ending. Most people suffering from these addictions end up hurting the people they love and creating bad memories in the minds of those who truly care for them. It never ends well. Thankfully there are people who care enough to help people work through and overcome their addictions whether it be Alanon (AA and the 12 Step Program) or even churches that offer Celebrate Recovery Classes. I have personally seen many people restored after lifelong struggles with addiction. The curse must end with us, if not it will be passed down to the sons and daughters of future generations. Like father – like son is the old familiar narrative but the curse can be reversed and restoration is possible. Over the years I have seen many christians cringe at the thought of the 12 Step program. In their mind Jesus is the only answer (because it was their answer) and they scoff at the idea of 12 steps saying that it only takes one step and that’s towards Jesus. Many people are co dependent upon religion and they are able to lay their burdens down at the feet of Jesus and trade their burdens. The problem with being codependent is that they still cannot function outside of the church. many of those people fall right back into addiction if something goes wrong between them and their church. What is interesting about Alanon and the 12 Step program is that the steps seem practical. The steps seem the prepare the person consciously to walk in forgiveness and make amends with the people that they have wronged.

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Addiction Religion and The 12 Steps Marilyn L. Redmond
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bring on today's guest and I'm pretty
excited about this interview this is a
lady by the name of Maryland Redmond who
has had quite who has lived quite a life
and into a lot of different things into
spirituality
maybe mysticism dealt with religion
dealt with struggle and abuse and stuff
so we've been exploring some of the
things about trauma and people going and
having a rough childhood and a rough
life early on and it kind of sets them
up and marks them or this life of
spirituality and spiritual practice in
it births a hunger within them to bring
light into the world because they've
sensed the darkness they felt what it's
like to be bullied to be abused to be
addicted and so they had this Pat
burning passion within them to bring
light to the world and I think that's
your story so Marilyn welcome to the
podcast it's gonna be a good
conversation oh I'm so glad to be here
and thank you for asking me this is a
great honor I'm really gonna enjoy it
oh definitely like I said yes you have a
you've been around for a while you've
been doing this for a while now 30 been
doing this for 30 plus years as far as
in in in the circuits and stuff and you
spoke at some of the edgar cayce events
and things like that so you know I think
you're you know one of the pioneers to
people for for people like myself just
kind of opening up the door you've been
doing this for a very long time even
when it was maybe taboo for a lot of
people now it's widely accepted it's the
cool thing to do spirituality yoga and
things like that's awesome but you know
you've been doing this a long time just
just I guess we could start with what
were some of the early experiences for
you that kind of got you into
spirituality that made you ask the
bigger questions in life well I didn't
plan to go in this route but this is the
route that I know today we've all
written a script and this was the script
I had to live out I was born into
domestic violence and alcoholism and
mental illness and so my childhood was
very dysfunctional and abusive in many
ways and because alcohol is around in
the family I was set up for being
addicted to prescription drugs a doctor
gave me prescriptions and I got addicted
and I discovered in treatment that one
pill and one drink is six times the
effect so you know my life was going
downhill fast
at one point at the you know it starts
out when you're on a prescription or any
drug you have a honeymoon period where
you think things are really terrific and
this is the answer right yeah and of
course it turns against you at some
point and so that was the turning point
I've been in hell I know what that's
about today separation from the love of
the universe and it feels like he'll and
so when I was in treatment I was
introduced to twelve steps and I knew my
body told me I was dying and I knew from
the doctor's report I was in a hospital
setting for treatment and he did an exam
and said you're in the last stages about
to drink is to die so I have not had any
relapses or any problems with that I've
been able to stay because saying so to
speak through the last 33 years this
month I have 33 years of sobriety and I
have found through the 12 steps took me
out of religion the Joseph's encouraged
you to meditate in my church preached
against that and said you are supposed
to listen to that inner voice and that's
the voice of the devil
so that was a very big struggle for me
but I knew that this was the only way I
was going to live is if I followed the
trial steps and that's what it said to
do and I'm those days I was very
obedient - and I didn't ask questions so
if you told me to do it I'd just say how
high I just jumped and so I started
meditating and that brought me into
where I am today
things started unraveling and opening up
to me and the answer started coming of
what I needed to do and how my
experience could help others and that's
of course what I've been doing for the
last 33 years is helping others to see
that there isn't another better way in
life you don't have to go down to the
depths I did my husband tried to kill me
and I was trying suicide that's how bad
it was and that one night I know we can
get home alive he tried to kill him
several to understand I are my church
prayers always came out of the hymnal I
didn't have know how to do it from my
heart in those days I didn't even know
that's what was happening but
spontaneously I just said god I really
don't want to die and within minutes he
was off the road instead of driving like
a maniac because he was going to show me
he was in a rage and things started to
change from that point and within a few
days I was in treatment got the answers
to start to be on a spiritual path and
it took a while to understand the
difference between religion and
spirituality because I'd been raised a
very good Lutheran from the time I was
five years old and baptized so to make
that a switch was a challenge but today
instead of listening to my head
I listen to my heart and that's what I
try to share that's awesome amazing
story and it's funny you mentioned you
know working the 12 steps and working
the AAA program I've got some friends
who have went through the program and
it's helped them and when you look at
the history from Bill Wilson he actually
talks about getting a lot of those steps
from LSD encounters have you done any
research on that where it were some of
that stuff stem from I don't know about
issues with that I know that he went to
a lot of lectures by him at Fox in New
York he was a great friend of Edgar
Cayce who I'm also in the energy
lifetime member of the other Cayce
Association which is very spiritual and
I know that he also was part of the
Oxford group in Washington DC was with
those that were the first six steps and
then he expanded them so from the Oxford
group so I know about his spiritual
background but I didn't know about that
I know he I know he was into more than
just alcohol and whatever and I've also
been in other trail steps with Miss I
need it I needed everything you could
give me Helen on has helped me because I
was raised in alcoholism and ellinon for
the friends and families of alcoholics
and if somebody has a relative a husband
and wife you know I do a lot of answers
on Quora on the internet and people will
say well my dad you know I can't get him
to stop drinking or whatever well if you
have a dad or a spouse or when a
relative of a good friend go to al-anon
and you're gonna find out the answers of
how you can have a better life and you
don't change the other person but you
can come into a tolerance and an
appreciation and gratitude through you
know the situation's and see it from a
better point of light and that's what
the twelve steps have taught me is to
look for my heart instead of appearances
and that makes the difference let me ask
you this because this was always a
controversial thing because we talked
about coming out of the church there's a
lot of people listening who are coming
out of the church well they're not
coming out of the church they're
realizing that they are the church let's
put it that way right
yeah they're coming out of formulas
religion so when we talk about a a I
remember friends of mine who they tried
to you know pray the addictions away
from their kids their kids were
struggling with drugs and alcohol and
things like that and and they would you
know want to go to AAA but the parents
and people in the church was like no
don't go to AAA because it's not of God
there's the only way you need to kick
your addiction is go straight to God or
go straight to Jesus don't go to AAA
because it's this formula and stuff so
there was always a lot of pushback from
the religious community when it comes to
the the the 12 steps in a a they say you
don't need 12 steps you need one step we
need to hit your knees fine Christ it
delivered and and there was always
something that that kind of stood out to
me with the 12 steps was like they would
always say that once an alcoholic always
an alcoholic it's a disease and I'm
always gonna have this there and the the
Christian mindset was like okay you can
be delivered you don't have to be an
alcoholic anymore you could be set free
and that that can be gone where's the
connection there for you when it comes
like this is something that always
plagues me or this type of addiction
that will always be there versus I'm set
free I'm no longer tempted or is it
always still there some some ways
because they you know those people go on
and say you know I'm I'm alcoholic even
you know 20 30 years later they're still
identifying with I
I take one sip I'm done I'm done for you
know I'm going in all the way you know
well you've asked a very complicated
question but very good question you know
what I had to understand was it is
dis-ease if you're at dis-ease it can
grow into being a disease
so therefore alcoholism is according to
the American Medical Association a
disease because it leads to insanity or
death and if you don't have a
intervention which can be done in the 12
steps now the 12 steps are
definitely your connection being
regained in an appropriate way with God
they don't have any religious
affiliation so Jesus is not brought into
it you go straight into the love of God
rather a person a person so you're
looking to the love of the universe to
heal you and yes healing for an
alcoholic is no desire to drink even
though this disease is still going in
your body and that's the other part
people don't understand sometimes it's a
disease of body in mind so the genetic
element for me was in running in the
family so to pickup for me I was just a
sitting duck to pick up a drink was to
start the disease initiating it and
going on in my life because I was set up
genetically so genetically you can stop
drinking and it doesn't change your
being rational see a drug changes you
from being rational so you're a drug
person and you're not making good
choices so when you quit the drug and
you have a clean mind and you can come
from your heart with healthy choices
that are good for you and those people
around you you can act in a loving way
and that's called recovery and you allow
the love of the universe to flow through
you to those around you rather than your
fear anger the resentments guilt shame
all your negative energies people in the
Bible call those you know Jesus said
Satan get thee behind me and that's what
he was referring to as our lower energy
comes from our ego and if that's running
our life it just does make your life
hell so the steps take you out of
needing to be and I'm fearless today you
don't have to have fear in your life
it's an illusion and you don't have to
have resentment see fear is the lack of
faith and in my church they never talked
about faith you know so I found out that
if you plug the toaster into the
electrician electric wall plug it you
know you get electricity so meditation
and prayer plugs me into the electricity
of God so to speak I have that
connection today which I don't go
through somebody else like some churches
haven't you
ooh to get to God I go straight to God
in my prayers and talking and
communication and so when you do that
you have to let go of anything in the
way and that's your eagle and that's
what sends out the guilt shame and so
far then the steps show you how to
release that negative energy the
negative feelings so that you could
replace it with the love of grace alone
grace of God and when you're living in
that space you don't want to drink
because you feel you don't have to drink
to feel good you just are good you just
that's your experience is a good
experience and you don't drink to get it
you feel it naturally so if I you know
if I picked up a drink today
I might not drink alcoholic ly
immediately but it sets off it triggers
the disease to keep reenact and the
disease actually never stops moving
through your system and if you pick up
it picks up where you left off so for me
it would be to die because that's what's
left on my so to speak monitor so people
sometimes have a lot of relapses because
they haven't reached that stage of
alcoholism yet but the only way that
you're going to totally be free of this
disease is and I'm not going to test it
I'll tell you this Christ in person this
is really what I was happening for me in
the 12 steps I've discovered that you
can literally replace all your negative
energy with all the loving grace of God
and be in that mature place of growing
the past energies and replacing it with
the truth of the universe which is love
and you become a crusted being a Christ
and being just means you haven't moved
into unconditional love without judgment
criticism or condemnation and you are
now coming from true love for you know
love your neighbor as yourself
and so that's a cry stood being and we
all can move into that it's are we
willing to remove what we've been
hanging on to our old childish
immaturity and grow up so when you grow
up and become a mature person your
christ and you don't you don't need to
drink because you're out there helping
others
this the gratification of that is so
strong and joyful you know that's what I
always wanted anyway whist appeals I
wanted some joy in my life I wanted some
peace of mind you know and I have that
today and I don't have the feelings so I
can get a little down here and there but
you know and I've been just the last 24
hours there's been a real maze of
difficulties and I've been getting
through it just fine we handled it as
rationally as we could and finally found
some answers late last night to resolve
it it's an issue with this licensing of
a car I stole and the whole thing turned
into a real jumble to say the least and
this lady was so upset she was ready to
sue and we got that calm down but when
you have a rational mind you don't have
to handle your problems so they become
worse and you can handle them so they
resolve in a loving resolution and
that's what I help people with with my
counseling how can we look at this
situation reframe it so that you can see
it from a bigger picture of this was
part of a situation and what were the
lessons and how can we solve it in a
loving way for you and the people around
you and we can move out of these old
situations with spirituality and most of
the time and I'm not trying to put any
churches down because everybody's where
they're supposed to be in learning then
that's where they are you know when
they're ready to leave they'll me leave
the church but you know churches tell
you you know you're supposed to follow
our tenets but the tenets tend to be
man-made rules rather than as principles
of love and that to me is the difference
between a church and spirituality mm-hmm
that's beautiful um are you talking
about being able to you say feel the
love of the universe a lot of times
whenever someone's addicted to substance
whether it be alcohol or drugs there's a
euphoria that comes with it there's a
place of escape like I can leave my
current situation my family my bills
whatever it is I can leave this distress
that I'm in and go to this other world
almost like if I get high if I you know
if I get drunk enough that stuff
disappears but we know what substance it
always comes back and you never resolve
it but it's
always there so but it takes us to
another place and I think that you're
talking about feeling the love of the
universe I think that takes us to a
euphoric place of oneness with God and
knowing that would love and we're cared
for and everything's gonna be okay what
was the what what was the first time
that you felt that you forea and knowing
that everything's okay because I am one
with the Creator I'm one with God and I
can feel the love of the universe all
over my body and my mind my heart my
understanding feeling that love what was
the first time you felt that well that's
an interesting question for me I was
told in spirit to make a trip to
Australia to any a convention and I was
just newly divorced and in those days I
was emotionally three years old scared
spitless of being on my own
no family was supporting me in my
recovery and God says when this
opportunity came to go to Australia and
I says well I don't have any money and I
don't have the time and you know I'm not
about to go there all by myself so yes
what there was a group of 15 people
going in a travel group called sober
travel and I could join them so I would
be with like-minded people and people I
could you know enjoy the trip with so
then I says well I still don't have any
money how am I you know I can't go and I
ended up in a car accident and five car
collisions like an accordion and I
watched the Angels help everybody so no
one really got desperately hurts
that was the cars did but people didn't
and I came home and prayed I says what's
this about and they said well we want
you to take the insurance money from
your car and take for the trip expenses
to go to Australia so I said well okay I
guess I'm going to Australia so off I
went and part of the trip went to the
Great Barrier Reef that's part of the
excursion and when I was out at the
Great Barrier Reef snorkeling and I was
enjoying the
we're lighting up like fluorescent fish
when the Sun hits them the great big
clams this is in my first book the great
big clams opened up and into the coral
was moving with the current of the under
underwater current
and swinging and and all these different
corals were gorgeous colors and shapes
it was actually gorgeous and it was time
to go back on the boat and I didn't want
to leave because it was it felt like
heaven down there I mean it was
marvelous I'm swimming with the fish it
wasn't terrific and so I stood up to
take my snorkel off and it was like the
heavens opened up and said you do belong
you are part of this and I just felt
like I'm part of this whole picture and
it just from that point on I never felt
like I belonged I never felt like I fit
in anywhere is growing up in school and
church or anything and all of a sudden
God's telling me you belong in this
universe you're part of us and and it
was just such a tremendous message to me
I believe that's probably my first
experience like similar to what you're
explaining even the love of God feeling
the love of the universe especially I
mean that's so powerful especially when
people are part of these you know
religious organizations these churches
or whatever where it's just all about
you know you're doing this wrong you're
not doing this right don't do this don't
do that don't do this and if you do
God's not gonna accept you if you do
this God's not gonna love you
Marilyn if you meditate that's demonic
you know stay away from this kind of
stuff there's a lot of us who have who
have dealt with that we've heard that
and in the weird thing with a lot of
people especially like in the
evangelical movements is like we have an
encounter with God we have an encounter
with the love of the universe as you say
and then we go to church to try to
recreate that or try to try to cultivate
that relationship who is God what
happened to me you know and we get
plugged in and we you know let go of the
bondage of the world some people you
know kick alcoholism drugs or whatever
they put it down
they get in church and they pick up a
whole nother set of burdens and a yoke
that they can't carry you know religious
um religion puts like expectations on
you that they don't the people and
leaders don't even put upon themselves
these different rules and things and and
you know there's so much there when it
comes to accepting yourself and knowing
who God created you to be
and really the love of God some of them
you know not yet not obviously not all
churches are that way but some of that
stuff gets really coaching it's real you
feel bad when you leave church like you
don't feel good about yourself or good
about that God loves you no matter what
you've done there's there's an
everlasting father who cares for you
some of those churches you leave and you
feel like scum like you feel and you
didn't even do nothing but they make you
feel like this weight in this burden so
you kind of have to go back to these
leaders and stuff who and liberate you
from that and that's uh that's that's
witchcraft
that's manipulation to control our whole
society has been mind controlled in fact
that's what you just mentioned with one
of my big soap boxes is about medicine
they tell you what's wrong with you
instead of what's right with you and
they just perpetuate the illness by that
so if you don't focus on what you focus
on grows so when you're told that you're
and I hope I don't offend people but
when you're told you're a sinner that's
shaming people and you're making them
feel less than and so and then you say
well I have the answer weed it's all
mind control in my opinion it was for me
anyway
and I had to understand that guy was
created in the spirit of love and I
never was a bad person in fact in my one
of my meditations a few years ago the
message I received was a silent voice
and I do listen to it now said Marilyn
there's nothing wrong with you and there
never was you are a good person and that
was the most validating comment and my
parents never said they loved me or I
was a good person it was always if you
are busy and productive what's wrong
with you you are you know
I mean you got to get the work done and
that's most important and who you are
doesn't count and so the love of God is
love is a validation and churches that
don't have that loving essence it's kind
of sometimes they poke it in it's like
it's throwing the dog a bowl and they'll
throw in a nice little comment and then
the rest of its still back - what's
wrong with you and so that's how they
hook people that's how I got hooked in a
domestic violent marriage you know and
threw me a bone and I that was the
nicest thing that ever happened to me at
that point so I bought it and stayed in
there looking for more bones and of
course things got worse and worse so
we've been deceived in and as a school
teacher I was taught to love the child
and not the behavior and so I taught
from that point of view but most of the
time society says you're a bad person
can this is what's wrong with you and
you can't have any self-esteem when that
happens and if when you get self-esteem
and I'm going to release all the
negative energies to find the
self-esteem inside the love in my heart
could finally safely open up and she
fill me and share it with others and
then I don't have to buy into what
people tell me I know today's as being a
counselor that when people talk they're
projecting their discomfort onto me
I'm having a self-esteem today I can say
that's sad that they feel that way
that's not who I am anymore and I don't
have to buy their [Â __Â ] I don't have
to buy their comments just because
they're making them I can discern
they're they're uncomfortable with their
life but I don't have to take it on
that's exactly right I mean we've been
discussing that it's usually nothing to
have to do with you at all it's usually
nothing with you which it's you
represent something that they don't like
about themselves
exactly you're too free I'm not free I
can't be free I'm I'm in bondage but
she's free oh well look what she's not
really free she has this he's got that
she's doing this wrong she's doing this
wrong and people project because they're
upset that you're walking in the freedom
that they only can dream of at this
point you know but that's why we're
supposed to
spawn with compassion and respond with
love and see that person restored and we
can do that I think love wins at the end
of the day and uh it's not it's not not
personal nothing's personal in the Bible
it's beautiful it says that that our
battle is not with flesh and blood but
with powers and principalities and in
heavenly places so it's not that person
you know your enemy is not that person
your enemy is what that person's been
through and they're still holding on to
it that's what we have to deal with the
trauma and the things the pains and you
trigger that person cuz you're free and
they're still bound because they've been
told by a pastor or a family member that
they'll never amount to anything that
they'll never be anything and here you
are fulfilling your dreams here you are
walking their freedom and you trigger
that person it's freedom from the ego
edging God out is the ego and what I do
a lot of research I've met one person
called me a research journalist I do it
I've got ten books and on YouTube myself
and blog and whatever and what I
discovered is that the Bible was written
2,000 years ago four terms the people
understood at the time so today if you I
want to write a book about this one I
have a couple more books I want to write
my angel experiences and what the Bible
really says the Bible is really
explaining your energy and they used
terms people understood 2,000 years ago
they if you go back and check Tesla he
says if you want to understand life it's
all about energy vibration and frequency
and that's what the Bible's describing
is how can you change your energy into a
higher frequency and feel the love of
the universe which is that higher loving
vibration not doing in person
spiritually you do it through the love
of the universe rather than artificially
through drugs because in my case I got
addicted to him so with that the really
way to get that experience not
permanently and not in you know and I
realized anyway it's a superficial way
to feel high and I can feel high oh I
just had the other day
having dinner the other night besides
some really good things that hit well my
birthday was last Sunday and so we were
celebrating and I just was having such a
great time and I haven't had a drink for
33 years yummy I just feel so great
inside it just was disposing and and so
you know that's the love and people
called it God because they didn't
understand energy because it's invisible
and so they had to label it with
material three dimensional terms and
they don't understand that that's what
life is about is raising your that's
what Jesus came to say was the energy
needs to shift Satan get thee behind me
that's what he's talkin about
and of course the churches have made a
doctrine out of it in Creed's and
whatever and then telling you this is
how you do it this is how you don't and
then telling you you're wrong if you
don't follow their way but the point is
if I come from my heart I'll always be
right and I'll always be connected with
God and I be I am a good person and what
people do around me makes me today look
at myself and say am I still sending
that out so that's what's coming back
and so that's what I happens that's the
church telling me to change and then
they don't really tell you how the 12
the 12 steps tell you when I used to sit
in church and hear all this stuff in the
pulpit but it wasn't really how to do it
just you need to do it you know but they
don't say that my paradigm busters
revealed the real you book tells you how
step by step
detail by detail how do you get rid of
the Satan or the lowered answer negative
guilt shame fear you know jealousies
seven deadly sins how do you get rid of
those and replace it with the loving
grace of God so when you do that you've
moved into a higher consciousness and
that because of Christ consciousness and
churches don't really tell you but they
tell you you can't become Christ because
Jesus is the only one that's not true
we're all Christ had beings releasing
our human defects and when you address
your own defect and say God humbly
remove this and replace it with your
love and grace you move into a higher
consciousness and that's what we're all
trying to do is move into a higher
consciousness of unconditional love and
that's what the
here's the pieces about and we won't
have that negative energy demeaning us
and criticizing us and telling us what's
wrong as you mentioned going back to the
addiction you talked about early on that
there was this you were pretty much
already like a priek candidate when it
comes to alcoholism alcohol abuse and
things like that because of your
genealogy and because of your genes have
has that led you to study generational
curses at all okay a curse is only a
curse if you allow it to be a curse but
families buy into that and perpetuated
and dropped that belief system down
through the children and the children
learned from their parents and the
parents can't teach them what they don't
know so generationally one day literally
I stood in my family room and I
literally felt the anger of my family
from six generations go poop onto my
shoulders I'm the one that's supposed to
heal the anger of the family what I
found out about anger and I teach a
class every month about this is if
you're angry you're a little
five-year-old throwing a temper tantrum
because it didn't go your way somebody
didn't go they'll do it the way you
wanted them to do it and it didn't do it
the way you thought they should do it
life ain't going the way you planned it
and so you're a little kid throwing a
temper tantrum and you know what when I
accept everything is falling together
just like it needs to for where I need
to be and what I need to learn I don't
have to be angry today I don't have to
be my husband tried to kill me half a
dozen times when he died two years ago I
was in compassion because I had learned
to pray for him the woundedness he went
through in his childhood to play that
part so I could learn to come out of it
you know it really affected the people
that we think are the worst enemies are
our best teachers and how we can change
into a better person and they're there
to show us that instead of us condemned
them more and more as to say you know I
think in prayers meditation in an
altered state this works really well you
can't just say it in through the
and you have to move into a that's why I
might hypnotist and do regression work
you do it in an altered state that's now
C otherwise you're not living in the now
so when you do it in that state and I
thanked him for playing that part and
all of a sudden it was no longer an
issue I took responsibility for my part
of what I'm learning to heal we don't
have to see that these people around us
are teaching us to be better people and
I know today we all write scripts before
we come in and he came to me and while
he was still alive in spirit he wasn't
living in another state and he said you
know he says I didn't want to play that
part in your life but nobody else was we
come in in soul groups and nobody else
was stepping up to do that and he says I
loved you so much that I played I was in
domestic by a strangled rape you name it
okay and he was a sex act a psychopath
rageaholic and alcoholic of course so
that's how I met him he made me as
drinking buddy so you know we have to
come to a bigger picture of what's
really going on in the energies and it's
not the pp said don't take it personally
it's not the people it's the situations
that were healing and they are
generational and my family has for years
and years had these mindsets of being
victimized and mentally controlled and
so forth and I'm hopefully changing that
in my family man it's tough when so when
you uh when you have these type of
traumatic encounters you're open up or
spiritual experiences we've been talking
a lot lately about shadow beings and
seeing those dark entities those dark
figures and stuff people have had
encounters with those I know you've had
a lot of encounters with angels and I
want to talk to you about that
have you ever had any encounters with
the paranormal and and demons and things
like that
manifesting into this reality I am I
have done several exorcisms yes and it's
dark energy
you know attached to people and to
release it it takes the love of heavier
energy of love as the demon has to
neutralize the energy and for them to be
willing to release that I want exorcism
took over three hours because she kept
in but she can't such a poor boundaries
that she just kept letting them come
back in and come back in generally it
can take a couple hours then or less
some have actually left sooner and
angels are the higher energy that God he
might call them helpers coming into I
mean I've almost died 12 times and
angels have kept me alive and well I've
been off the cliff of the Grand Canyon I
went off the cliff at the between BAM
candy aspirin in Canada that those
national parks almost went off the cliff
on and going to see my great-grandson a
few years back and God pulled me out of
my body she put me over the cliff and
said see that you are going to be hurt
your spirit won't be in your body you
won't go down with the car so don't
worry if that happened you'll be okay
so angels have been there for me in so
many situations I see angels and I paint
their portraits if people are interested
in their portraits being painted they
can contact me at Maryland at Angelica's
gift PSICOM on my website or I have a
radio show love never fails and I'm on
the air which is the afternoon bold
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Eastern time and so I'm easily
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counseling off of Skype if it's our
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going to have a new client just Kim dry
which is nice
so you know if I've actually done
readings as far as a lady in Australia
contacted me
I did a reading so out of the country
even so through PayPal we can do these
things today is that wonderful mm-hmm
definitely I know we talked we're
talking about AIDS was talking about
demons and without having to see them
physically you know we definitely could
see the presence of the of the dark
energy of the demons and things like
that you can't see him physically story
I've told very often but I was traveling
to see my grandson's I lived in western
Washington south of the airport from
Seattle and I was traveling over several
mountains and heading towards Boise
Boise Idaho for Thanksgiving and when I
got to the top of one of the passes the
snow was coming and a trucker helped me
get the chains on my car and before I
hit panting in Oregon I had a flat tire
these were not the typical change they
were a new version they were
experimenting with and and of course the
one of the wires hit the tire and tossed
it to leak okay yeah I made a hole in
the tire so here I am on over this
freeway no house is flat ground it's
where they have a big rodeo I said you
know out in the wilds you might say
without any town houses or whatever and
I'm sitting on the side of the road of
the flat tire no this is before cell
phones whether they wouldn't have
probably been cellphone contacted where
I was was half an hour north of
propelled him and at those times on the
news there had been some attacks of
single women stranded on the freeway and
I'm here I am stranded and but this
little old truck comes putting down the
highway all of a sudden I went into this
piece because I was pretty anxious
what's going to happen to me sitting out
here on this freeway without you know no
way to get out get anywhere else and the
man stopped it was a little old
gentleman and he opened the window and
he says ma'am he says do you need help
and of course I didn't know who he was
from Adam but I said yes I need help so
he says
his comment was I need a second job he
was a retired gentleman but I so I can't
help you all the way but he says I can
get you to les schwab which is a local
tire place on the west coast I can get
you to talk
let's go they'll come out and fix your
tire and then you can get going again
you want me to take you in tulips
because my ice pick perked up yeah I'd
love to be able to get help so he took
me into Pendleton and the man at the
shop said the whole room was filled with
clients waiting to get their chain
chains on and snow tires on because the
snow was coming and the man I told him I
said I got to get across the Blue
Mountains before dark I had a nightmare
experience years earlier and I didn't
want to go through that one again and so
they looked in the room he says if you
don't tell anybody in the room I'm
taking you next in line right I've taken
you next and I'll get you back on the
road he says don't tell anybody but he
says I'll help ya so they came out got
my car fixed the tire and got me and
when I went but I was still at the
counter when I was talking to this
gentleman and I went to turn around to
thank the man for helping me and he was
gone I recognized later that was
probably my first experience seeing when
it's a physical being and I went to
thank you and he was gone my boyfriend
has had numerous experiences where
they've showing up in physical form and
I could tell you several of his stories
but yes I have seen them and I have
actually felt at one point I was an
angel in physical form for somebody that
needed help one day and I'm sitting
there in my car and she's talking to me
about what she needed to say and I'm
waiting you know with a tire problem my
flat tire went flat I ended up in this
lady's car waiting for the triple-a to
show up and I'm sitting there saying oh
I'm supposed to be here sitting and
listening to her she needed someone to
talk to you
apparently she'd been praying for
someone to hear her story and what she
needed to understand and and there I was
so I dawned on me all I'm there for her
so
we can be angels too yep that's that's
what the word angel means messenger
someone who's carrying of a message and
I think in the scriptures it calls Paul
a messenger but there's something I mean
there is that they're not just
messengers like this like they're
otherworldly at times you know what I'm
saying they're they're etheric light
beings from another realm and they're
not just because I think some people
were trying to say well you know angels
are just people angels are just people
they can be people but they also can be
etheric light beings as well you know
something that carries a message or a
spirit that carries a message like this
spirit is coming with a message of
feeling a vibration that's that's a
message to change the way a group of
people are feeling a city of people are
feeling like really you know it gets
pretty deep but to come and change it it
talks about in the Bible it's also about
like a spirit of confusion or the spirit
of joy the spirit of slumber spirit of
deep sleep and these spirits would go
back and forth with God and say hey let
us go down let me go down and be this
type of spirit and this other one they
would kind of petition God wanting to go
down and change the vibration of the
people and those book is all about we
can change we don't have to stay at the
level we are right now I created a
diagram and he's charged in my paradigm
Buster's book which is also in my newest
book finding reality beyond fear as the
stairs going up higher and higher into
higher vibrations in that's what the 12
steps teach us is how to move up those
stairs and we don't stay at one level we
have the choice to let that energy go
higher and higher and us so we can be
that Christ at or higher consciousness
person coming from the love
unconditional love of the universe and
so we're at stuck in one place we are we
don't have to be sort of sinners the
rest of our lives we get to be that's
what Jesus was on the cross and
crucified to show we can rise above our
ego and that's when he became you know
but he didn't die he came back and
show people I'm still here you know
people with actually he was around for a
lot longer than the Bible said after the
resurrection we resurrect from our lower
natures into this higher consciousness
and not that we're going to be well if
part of us is our whole consciousness if
you put it all together part of us is a
little bit of an angel
and we but we have to grow into it talk
about chakra energy and cord clearing
what what's what's cord clearing in
chakra energy well those are two really
good questions chakras are the energy
sources there's seven basic chakras that
there's lots more my boyfriend is pranic
healing and he's familiar with all of
them but there's the root chakra the
solar the navel chakra the solar plexus
the heart the throat the crown chakra
and then the third eye and those are the
energy interfacing with God's energy
from the universe and you have to clean
out those chakras so they function and
bring in I have a chart about this in
paradigm Buster's too and I teach it
every month in my class you have to
clean out those chakras so the love of
God or that energy from the universe can
come in and actually integrate into your
physical body that's your health and if
you're turned off from that energy of
love integrating in your system you're
going to get sick that's what the
sickness is about is they aren't
functioning and you've got to get them
opened up so they can allow all the
energy in and you can then be as healthy
as you can allow that energy to
interface with your whole body card
clearing is really important and that
has a lot to do with being codependent
we take on all this energy of everything
around us especially people if you're in
my case a woman who was totally clueless
and I latched on to my husband as a
barnacle because I'm three years old
well it turned out he was probably three
years old from his abuse and the two of
us are trying to be one per to two
children trying to be one for
you have to learn to roll up and
disconnect from that's what elements
about you detach you could stop the
corded connection to another person for
your survival and your self-esteem then
being okay because if they're okay
you're okay you know that's all this
codependent stuff and there is a 12-step
program called coda that helps you with
this too and you release those cards so
that you finally could be your own
individual self instead of being two
people hooked together at the hip
there used to be a book called the
Bobbsey Twins and that was my husband
with me we were hooked at the hip today
I have a boyfriend but he has he's a
whole individual I'm a whole mature
person and we come together as partners
rather than cleaning like a barnacle on
to somebody else
and we each have our own lives and then
we share but it's not that somebody
else's expanse
I call it win-win in my counseling how
can you work this out so you both get
what your needs are met and if you meet
your own needs say you don't need to be
a barnacle to somebody else and those
chords can be released and you can turn
into a mature person and you are no
longer that little kid hanging on to an
adult trying to make it or another
person not any older than you are trying
to make it in life you can grow up when
you do your cord clearing talking about
growing up talking about being stuck
it's very interesting you talk about
being 3 years old and it may seem you
know kind of far out for some people but
there's a lot of study out there that
debt shows that you're kind of stuck at
that age where the trauma happened to
you where something bad happened to you
and it's talking about a lot of experts
who study this they've said Donald Trump
seems to be stuck you know at a young
age as well from some trauma and still
having something to prove that he you
know can get some you know something
done or he can be somebody or whatever
the case is is an overachiever almost
you know and being stuck at that early
age so it kind of like never I've
actually grown up so that they can
ascend to the higher levels of
consciousness well I was an overachiever
I was valedictorian trying to get my
parents to give me some validation and
say what we're proud of you I just kept
getting a stinking well they one of
these days they're going to notice I do
really well and it became bility turning
not because I'm this - kid in the class
I studied the harshest because I was
trying to get recognition and they
weren't recognizing themselves because
they never grew up so they couldn't give
it to me and so I've learned god
recognizes and validates me today I had
a beautiful validation last night at a
meeting and you know this man stayed to
say you know what you said he says I'm
going to keep it in my heart forever he
was very impressed so today I don't look
to people for my validation but it comes
because I have something to share and
they recognize that and I'm very
grateful that people are listening and
hearing that there's better ways to live
our lives to be awesome go ahead and
talk a little bit about your your newest
book finding reality beyond fear I'm
very proud of it it's actually my story
growing through the stages the universe
has lost the universal laws and their
laws of love now when people read the
Bible and they say the Lord they're
really talking about the law of love
it's not really a person and so like the
12 steps we were that's what we were
talking about last night is the
principles of love and when you're
following those principles your life
improves because you're now focusing on
what works instead of what does it work
so my book is divided into four sections
finding grace and what we've been
talking about is releasing what doesn't
work on how I did that and the second
part is finding balance and there's
different little slogan as we call them
to help you find a balance in your life
when you've gotten some self-esteem and
you feel good about yourself then
there's little things like when to keep
it simple easy does it
this too shall pass when you have
situations that are coming up
helps you to handle those situations and
we call it finding balance the third
part of the book is finding sanity and
health and the more you open your heart
and release what doesn't work your
health will actually be restored because
that's what the problem was in the first
place medicine doesn't recognize that
and finding truth in the end is we can
actually as sin if you know about
alchemy we are the pot of gold we are
the genie in the bottle but when you
ascend into that higher consciousness
that's what the fourth chapters about
and we do actually become Christ in or
masters of our own life we can make the
choices that give us the results that
are loving solutions and that's you
master your emotions so you don't go
down the tubes with your old I'm a
terrible horrible up but you know I used
to think I was a terrible horrible awful
person and I was going to have to live
the rest of my life this way you know
God helped me you know but we don't have
to stay in that attitude anymore we can
change it and we can be the innocent
child which has no criticism judgment
condemnation and we can move out of that
place in our innocence that's the love
coming through us to others being
innocent like a child and so the fourth
part is about accomplishing that higher
level of consciousness and I find it I
think it's a bit that chart for going up
the vibrations that I mentioned is also
in that book so I have found a ways that
works for me and I surely help you know
people have told me it works for them
too so if someone were interested in
going to amazon.com my books are on
amazon.com all of my books all together
I have 10 books on there they all are
about moving into higher consciousness
one way or another I have also a book on
there called road to success and another
one called the real meaning of 2012
bringing heaven to earth and that's what
we're really just through releasing the
negative and merging in and we're all
doing this in one way or another what
what happened in 20 2012 you do you
believe something happened there
something shifted oh it was a huge hear
when Jesus came
in 2000 years ago there was a photon
bill and that was the Christ
consciousness energy and if you know
anything about astrology and so forth
I'm not a master of that at all but I
understand some basics about it and that
allowed his energy to bring in him into
a higher loving God type consciousness
and Chris people often see him as God
and the churches promote that well as
the universe is evolving and whatever
that energy was not sustainable on earth
and so we went into like the you know in
history we call it the darkness the dark
stages and so then we started coming out
in the Dark Ages historically well at
2012 the Photon Belt returned and the
Christ consciousness started being
beaming to earth again and that's the
energy around us and within us that we
can utilize and access today to bring
ourselves into that same place that
Jesus brought himself so the photon bill
makes it possible for us to be supported
in a living universe again and the
people that did it without that energy
was a real struggle they called those
the Masters and that's what a master was
they had overcome the planetary density
of energy into a higher consciousness
well today everybody can do it if they
choose to do the work I agree with you
2012 was phenomenal for me and reading
the chat here love a lot of people
talking about how powerful 2012 was for
them and something happened spiritually
definitely new levels for me in my
awakening in UFO angelic contact and uh
been beautiful so if you want to go
ahead and plug your website before we
get off here people can go directly to
your site you got a lot of information
on your website and you've you have been
well documented your endeavors there's a
lot of stuff on your website if you want
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conversation and we'll have to do it
again soon thank you so much my friend
thank you and have a wonderful day and
thanks to everybody out there I hope
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got out man I love it ball people good
stuff man um yeah good stuff
it was comment we were talking about
shadow beings I've been where I've been
weaving that into every other podcast
here since me and Danny did all shout
out to Danny he's in the chat right now
but it was a home sauce in the chat
mentioned uh talk to somebody who does
meth and they'll tell you all about
shadow beings you're right man that's
it's weird when it when it comes to a
meth in in the spirit realm you know I
had a friend of mine his dad cook meth
and I really think that when it comes to
what the Bible calls or Makia
sorcery uh Smith the mixing and creating
and like a witch's cauldron you know I
really think meth is which is culturing
I mean putting battery acid and comment
you know would you clean the bathtub
with all kind of crazy ingredients into
some kind of substance that you're gonna
put in your body that's deaf and it
changes your your brain chemistry the
way you think man and it makes you
sensitive to the other realms um a
friend of Mines dad at some point and
he's born again now um but at one point
he was cooking dope and he was just like
telling this his son which is a friend
of mine that he believed that meth was
meth could be like the real way that we
can talk to God by smoking meth and it's
all this crazy crazy talk
crazy people talking it's definitely not
a way to talk to God you're talking to
some you're talking to a God all right
with God's with the little G you know
when you're going around seeing shadow
entities hiding in the woods and people
in your closet and under the bed and
paranoid
staying up for days on on in you know
that's the that's the thing about it
it's like the opposite of true
spirituality when you think of crystal
meth is such a powerful drug and it's
destroying so many people's lives um you
know you're staying up for days on in
that is spiritual fasting a state
because you're not eating like meth
heads and crack heads they're not eating
they're going days without eating and
they're fasting sleep so therefore when
you stay up for height like when you
step for elongated periods of time you
become that much more sensitive to the
spirit realm and that veil it's thin
where you're supposed to be in the you
got people who stayed up stay up days on
end you know they talk about like
there's secret agents cops hiding in the
trees outside in the woods and the
Devils coming for them and all kind of
stuff man on these drugs that bad stuff
can happen so crystal meth as people
seeing shadow beans are being chased by
demons and crazy stuff going on on that
I had a friend of mine he's a whole
hippie man and he's born again now he
loves Jesus it's funny to hear him share
his stories about LSD and stuff back in
the day but he was uh he had a story man
that he was in his house tripping on
acid and he was freaking out and he had
these this little leprechaun demon
chasing him through his house
freaking out scared to death and he runs
in his runs in his bedroom and he slams
the door and other the troll the demons
trying to get in there to kill him he's
freaking out he goes to gets his shotgun
and handles wiggling the doors banging
and he's about to shoot through the door
but about that time he perhaps that open
opens the door and it was his dad his
dad was trying to get in and through the
door he almost shot through the door and
was gonna shot his dad you know so these
you have to be careful man with with
pharmakeia and with mixing chemicals and
concocting things you know we talk about
natural substance I talk to I'm a
proponent for psilocybin anything
natural that you can just pick up in the
woods and eat you know I'm saying that's
that's a whole nother story versus like
mixing let me take this lighter apart
and use some of the fluid let me get
this you know all this weird stuff and
make creating these crazy you know
you're insane you're a crazy person that
will mess you up don't do that you know
being hallucinations and stuff that
scary demonic stuff was talking about
alcohol addiction when I was a teenager
my mom was dating this guy's name was
Emmett and uh Emmett's passed on now I
wrote about him extensively in my book
and I'm a I think I'm Tay I'm thinking
about just taking a bunch of chapters
out of the book and just putting it on
line for people to read there's some
stuff that I shared that I don't want to
share anymore on there and because you
know some people were hurt when they
read it
because I put personal information in
there for other people who weren't
resolved or healed and I talked about
some things openly in my life and uh
wasn't good though my mom but I'm
thinking about taking some of the
chapters out and just putting it online
just so you can read and there's some
chapters while I talk about Emmett
Emmett was addicted to like all kind of
pills any any any pain pill he only had
one leg and he had like metal rods in
his back and talked about him
extensively in the book and there's some
crazy stories in there about me and
Emmett but one when it comes to
alcoholism the guy he picked me up from
I was in Alabama he was gonna take me
back to Louisiana where my mom was
staying so he comes to pick me up and
the dude had a gallon of vodka in his
truck and he was just sitting there
chugging it he's like telling me I can
have some and we got to drive two and a
half hours on the interstate
back to Louisiana and he's swerving all
in the road and freaking out and we're
on the interstate one point he pulls
over we go to the store and he I got him
to buy me a 40-ounce I think I was 13 at
the time
bought me a 40 ounce of Saint IDEs malt
liquor and uh I was drinking that but
another point he pulled over he wanted
me to drive he's like I can't drive I
need you to drive Derrick I mean I don't
know how to drive this was like a
standard you know stick shift
I can't drive that I need you to drive
is that what we're gonna pray make sure
we pray so we can make it back and he
grabs my hand he's praying with me he's
like god help us to get well we need to
be safely he's still chugging this
straight vodka man he's on pills and
stuff too and um he's like squeezing my
hands so hard man my hand was like
hurting so bad I was praying and and we
got back on the interstate he's trying
his best to keep it between the lanes
I'm scared to death scared for my life I
don't know what to do man we're driving
we pass up the exit that we're supposed
to get off at and then he goes on into
the median on the interstate and just
goes way down this hill
comes back up the other side and you
know it freaking out and so finally uh
we were getting close we were probably
we're probably 15 miles away and we got
pulled over he was going through a city
and I we got pulled over and the UH cops
came in there and arrested him and was
asking him about the the Saint odds
alcohol in the in the floorboard it's
like it did you buy that for the kid I
said not any mind
it's like no you're not drinking
straight liquor and st. IDEs and and
that guy alcohol man mess it messes
people up man if they can't they can't
overcome it and I've got countless
stories about Emmitt and my mom fighting
some of it's in the book if you got some
of you guys have read it but I'll I want
to post some of that online I'm gonna
post it on my website just a couple
excerpts and
about image no stories with a dealing
with alcohol and abuse and watching him
on my mama fight fistfights there was
one time and all this is in my book man
but uh it was one time that uh my friend
Michael was spending the night with me
over at our house and in me and my mom
were up fighting all night there just
don't one blows back-and-forth he only
had one leg he's hobbling around the
house my mom's got him pinned down and
Michael was spending the night with me
and he's in the living room on the
ground screaming for my friend Michael
help me Michael
hey bro gonna help a bro it's Collier
he's like ain't going in there does a
man go help that you know they're doing
that and uh and he comes you know five
minutes later he comes hobbling down the
hallway and uh sticks his head in the
door he's bleeding and stuff and he
looks at Michael say thanks a lot no I
help him and then uh I don't they did he
just kept fighting the man and um
nothing happened and my mom threw a
mason jar across the living room that's
one of the big jars that you would like
jelly and jam comes in she threw it
across her living room and hit him in
the head busted his head wide open and
uh he's sitting there bleeding now man
this is insane
you know I'm young teenager I seen all
the stuff he's bleeding out and uh my
mom goes outside cuz the laundry room
was outside she goes to the dryer to get
a towel wall to try to put it on his
head she goes outside when she does he
locks the door locks her out she tries
to come back in and the doors lock and
he's sitting on a bar stool just blood
all over him he's laughing he said are
they gonna get you for murder I'm gonna
die and they gonna get you for murder
mom's freaking us on my mom punch just
through the window of our front door and
unlocks it she's bleeding now so she
comes inside and uh holds on her head
illness hair to try to stop the bleeding
and stuff or whatever and um one of the
times went when I when I first walked in
and they were fighting he was laying on
the ground and my mom had his
it's fake leg in her hand and she was
trying to pull his leg off and uh he was
pulling it in it it was got stuck at the
end of his pants but he's laying on the
ground and it the leg is stuck at the
end of his pants leg and she's pulling
looked like his leg was like 6 foot tall
cuz she was just like had his leg up
trying to pull it off and he was like
wobbling around so it was just insane
but it was blood everywhere
it was handprints with blood on I think
the ambulance did come they treated him
there and he didn't go with them um it
was blood all over the carpet blood in
the kitchen and just blood everywhere
and so the next day my wife Aaron which
we were dating at the time it was her
first time coming over she was gonna
come pick me up
so she gets in the car she comes over
there to pick me up Michael up we're
gonna go to the mall or something she
comes walks to the door and there's like
bloody handprints all over the wall and
puddles of blood at the house and it's
her first time coming over to pick me up
what an introduction man I was just
insane I ride I go into more detail in
the book and stuff abut but uh I'll um
I'll post it on my website some of those
stories really interesting stuff that
I've been through but alcohol man you
don't have to live like that you're
talking about abuse and domestic
violence and stuff like that man get out
of those situations man you know I'm
saying like get out of those situations
anybody abusive and controlling and
you know I've seen you know and I
believe in the generational curses man I
believe that their energies transferred
down and the same type of fights that my
mom has done she's been fighting my
mom's been fighting her boyfriends ever
since I was born
fightin dude was making you know beating
them up and stuff is crazy and um you
know look at my sister man
my sister fights her boyfriends you know
I have friends so I can look at their
mom I didn't look at look at them you
know every time like it's weird now I
had this this vision when I look at
women I look at their mom I said okay
she's gonna be her mom when she grows up
like this woman and if you know their
mom they're just like younger versions
of their mom if you haven't dealt with
that those issues and the people I'm
talking about we're coming from broken
homes man
it's probably different if you're coming
from different lifestyle and
everything's good and you come from a
loving family and that's your that's
your curse right love you know it's not
a curse it's a blessing but um but it's
that's what you're born into and that's
what you're shown that's what you have
there so what's instilled within you to
to share man I remember you know just
all the stuff coming with with
generational curses man like all my
granddaddy my brother everybody like
I've been around situations where they
abused women like it was normal for me
to be a kid and see my granddaddy
backhand my grandmother see my brother
slap his girlfriend in front of company
in front of people
the girls crying you know I've been
situation they asking me to help him I'm
you know nine years old ten years old 11
I can't do now my brothers huge you know
and see my cousins and they all beat
their girlfriends and they were young
but like they were old men beating their
wives these dudes was like man they were
teenagers it was like anywhere from like
17 they're like 25 years old what I've
seen it happen you know beaten women and
I had to catch myself man you know what
I'm saying I had to I had to I had to
deal with those demons I was gonna be
following down that road
I remember you know doing things I
shouldn't have did and uh when I was in
that lifestyle when I was into
witchcraft and all of that crazy stuff
man I was going to go down that same
road and thank God that um that I broke
the curse that I reversed the curse and
got into Jesus and let him change my
heart and change my life I think that's
what we need to do man you can look at
your parents man whether they're
alcoholics or whether they're this
whether they're that whether they're
drug addicts look like they dude I was
talking about I'm not gonna name the
names cuz ya'll know these people but
the guy who whose dad was cooking meth
he cooked meth with his son they bonded
over cooking dope you know I'm saying it
in when the sons addicted to meth and
addicted to dope years later and the
dads healed and delivered now he's in
church he don't cook dope no more
he's wonders why a son can't do right
why you can't do right son why you
running around doing dope you taught me
this you taught me this stuff you you
brought me up in this that's a
generational curse in that that father
the son you know when you mixing
chemicals and there's chemical reactions
and stuff that uh they would have had a
situation where the the meth lab blew up
in the end he's seen his dad's hand go
flying off dad blew up blew off his hand
in front of the son cooking dope you
know and his dad to this day only has
one hand it's a reminder every day you
can lose your hand cooking dope man
isn't the son seen it happen he's a
little kid and that's all he knew that
was normal for them crazy man
I believe in generational curses I can
see them we can rid them take it to God
in prayer renounce it deal with the hurt
deal with the stress deal with the the
trauma nip it in the bud man cuz you're
gonna you know those who in essentially
comes down to those who don't learn from
the past are doomed to repeat it it's
just a cycle we talk about being on
default we talk about being on autopilot
same thing same thing it's all your on
autopilot you just doing what you know
to do you just pass down you don't even
know it
you think your original you think you're
unique you think you're an individual
you're spitting image of your father
fitting image of your father
that's why we've adopted into a new
family our father's good I have a good
good father now we're resembling this
father now we're taking on his character
traits the good stuff it's deep man I
hope this resonated with some of you
guys I really enjoyed this conversation
a lot of good nuggets in there a lot of
good stuff that you can apply to your
life and you know don't um don't think
it like I said I'll have to kind of give
the disclaimer sometimes or whatever but
don't think that just because I have a
guest on that I'm like with them and
everything that they believe I try to
try to find the gems I think everybody
has something that they can bring to the
table I think that a broken clock is
Right twice a day and everybody has
something that they can bring to the
table I don't think anybody knows it all
I don't think that anybody is walking in
100 percent truce or walking in you know
I don't think that anybody has it all
together especially when there's so much
there's so many more topics and stuff
that that interests me and there's like
not one preacher there's not one guru
there's not one musician or whatever who
holds who has done the homework has done
the studying and it's well-rounded
enough to be like your only teacher God
speaks to us too
everything in everyone God speaks to us
through everything and everyone nature
you know the donkey you know I'm saying
Balaam God speaking through the writing
on the wall he's speaking through the
donkey's in Scripture whatever if you're
listening God will speak to you he's
speaking to us through one another
oh but Dad I must say peace and Shalom
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