A Story of Miracles, Healing, and the Afterlife | Paige W Lee | TruthSeekah Podcast

A Story of Miracles, Healing, and the Afterlife | Paige W Lee | TruthSeekah Podcast
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lined up for you my guest has an amazing
story her name is Paige Lee Paige
welcome to the true seeka podcast my
friend how are you hi good morning thank
you so much I'm well how are you doing
Happy New Year thank you thank you I'm
I'm doing well too doing really good uh
wide eyy and and hopeful so yeah excited
about the future and the present at the
same time yes for sure yeah well thank
you for having me on I'm really very
grateful thank you for sure you have a
amazing story and uh the work work that
you're doing bringing to the table uh
dealing with grief and a lot more than
that but uh just want to get into your
story for those of uh those listening
who don't know who you are what you
bring to the table just kind of give us
an overview of your message okay great
if I talk too long you just reel me
in so um hello everybody um I am paig
Lee and I am um a mother and a wife and
and all of those things but mostly I'm
here today in my role as a mother uh my
son Brian who was my only birth child
was killed 12 years ago um 12 years ago
last September uh he was Brian was um a
brilliant child he really was like Deans
List and great athlete and um many uh
many nominations to West Point Military
Academy and other military academies and
uh so he attended some went to West
Point for a period of time and then
didn't like the military life so he
transferred to USC in Los Angeles and uh
Brian finished his degree in economics
there and then decided he wanted to
pursue a career in film of course at USC
a very prestigious film school and so he
uh accept he applied and was accepted
into the film school so he was one
semester away from receiving that second
bachelor degree um when he was walking
home one night uh late at night after
having a couple of beers with friends at
a bar and their apartment was just off
campus at USC which is in Downtown LA
and they didn't know the area very well
U because they had prior to that had
always lived on campus in the dorms so
anyhow they were walking home one night
and they took a wrong turn and that
wrong turn uh made them kind of
backtrack and in the process of trying
to to get on the right Street they
walked by um an apartment building and
the gate was open on the apartment
building a big rot Iron Gate and as the
boys were walking by Brian just kind of
grabbed the gate and slammed it shut so
who would think that that would be the
act that would end his life but it was
um a man came running out of the
apartment complex absolutely Furious and
uh you know who's slamming my gate and
um started a fight with Brian and um
they engaged in a fight uh Brian kind of
in defense mode um just you know hand
fight right fist fight uh whatever it is
never been in a fight myself and anyhow
so they ended that fight and Brian and
his friends walked away and the man ran
into his mother's apartment who lived
there came back out with a knife and
stab Brian and just one one fatal Stab
Wound so um he died um he kind of
collapsed and the ambulance arrived very
quickly uh but he died in the ambulance
and so that was 12 and a half years ago
he was 23 years young and um as I said
my only birth child so I had uh
miscarried and had a stillborn prior to
to this but he was my only living child
is how I describe it because he's the
only one that made it you know and I'm
so I'm so blessed to have had him for 23
years um but in the beginning you know
when it first happened I didn't feel
that Joy I didn't feel any gratitude for
having had him 23 years I was all about
my grief and how
profoundly um uprooted I was I mean I
was completely
broken so there's that and then there's
the miraculous part of my story which is
the healing and how three weeks before
Brian died I had a dream in which my
very beloved grandmother came to me and
said all I remembered was her saying
it's okay will be with us soon and uh
and I woke up and I thought oh my gosh
I'm going to die like I remembered the
dream vividly I knew I knew then that it
was a dream visit that it wasn't just a
dream because it was so real and I just
remembered sitting at her feet I could
picture her uh perfectly she was very
kind of angelic looking but still had
her her body and her face and her hair
as I remembered her um and she said you
know it's okay you'll be with us soon so
I thought I was going to die got all my
Affairs in order you know you know the
drill right you think you're going to
die and so I um I was engaged in all of
that when we got that phone call at 5:00
am in the morning that indeed it was
Brian who had died not me wow so um and
we didn't really know that at the first
phone call it it was later in the
morning but um anyhow so that dream
which you know became pretty prophetic
right and then three weeks that was
three weeks prior to his death and then
three weeks after he died
he called out to me and I heard him out
loud with my ears he called out mom and
I just jumped up and I had not been
sleeping and um I'm like oh my gosh
Brian like where are you where are you
where are you and from that moment on I
was off and running and it was that
moment that launched my spiritual
journey my Spiritual
Awakening um and it's just been quite a
ride so that's a summary of what
happened man wow yeah yeah such an
amazing story already I mean let me so
let me ask you a couple questions here
um when you heard him call out to you
where were you I was laying on my bed I
was not in bed it was um kind of midm
morning and uh I was waiting for my
husband to get done in the bathroom and
come out and I can't recall where we
were going but we were probably headed
somewhere or um doing something together
and I was waiting for him so I was
laying on my bed I was fully clothed and
um I just can I can see it like it was
yesterday even though it was 12 years
ago and whenever I hear Spirit or feel
Spirit or sense spirit it's always kind
of from the right side of my body and
that was how his voice his voice came
from the right side um and it was loud
yeah a little you said you said you were
waiting on him oh my husband I was
waiting on my husband to come out of the
other room yeah I was just kind of
laying there just waiting I wasn't
asleep okay wow yeah I wasn't waiting
Brian now what you know dealing with the
grief like cuz grief can man you know it
shifts you man like it you're like never
the same you know when you have an
experience and and you know definitely
with the loss of a child for sure it it
could it can mess with you and and you
know push you to Wit's End and uh and
obviously that's where you were uh did
it reshape your brain like did cuz like
to to actually be open to you know the
spirit world because people like at Rock
Bottom they have that transformation
something happens to shift them into a
spiritual awakening like how bad was it
for you it was very bad it was um I I it
was very bad I was um had started
drinking heavily you know a bottle of
wine every night I would I mean now
granted it was heavy heavy heavy grief
for a long time right but the three
weeks prior to hearing his voice were
just const an um tears and um heartache
I was completely broken and I would wrap
myself up in blankets I live in Idaho
and it was you know getting chilly and
you know late September I would wrap
myself up in blankets and sit on my
front porch and drink a bottle of wine
and blast the music from the funeral
which I had on tape and I would just
play it so like just like just being
lost in that and it was so heartbreaking
like when I look back on it now it was
so heartbreaking but it's part of the
process I mean it's part of the mourning
and that we have to go through that so
yes I was completely broken and it was
one of those sessions I'll call it I had
come inside because it was so cold and I
was sitting on my living room floor with
my wine with you know with all of that
and I just screamed and I pounded the
floor and I begged God to take me
instead bring him back bring him back I
call it I was to negotiate with God and
um and I'm not exaggerating I was
kicking and screaming the floor and um
you know probably half drunk I'm not a
big drinker but I was you know in those
days and um and I just begged God to
take me instead bring him back let him
live his life and take me instead and of
course God did not do that yeah um so I
I had always believed in God because I
grew up Presbyterian I had kind of an
you know I had an awareness of God I
believe that God existed um I believed
in heaven at the time I believed in hell
and um but that's it I I had no
relationship with God I had no
experience um you know with with the
Bible per se other than having read
other than owning a Bible and having
read pieces here and there um so yes the
whole entire experience from learning of
his death um to hearing him call out
loud to the to the healing and all of
the Miracles that have ensued since then
over the past 12 years have
completely not just rewired my brain
because that has happened too as you
become more um attuned to Spirit and
attuned to energy and kind of
consciously aware of what's happening
right I know that you understand that
your listeners do too um so that's all
happened but the I think even the most
miraculous thing is that I found my son
we do still have a relationship but more
than that I found my God and more
understanding of what that means to me
and I found myself I found my true self
in this process and that's that's the
gift in great grief which you can't see
it in the early days you can't believe
that there's ever going to be a gift
that's going to come out of your grief
um but there is and and those those were
the gifts that that that were that I
obtained um as a result
of not giving into the alcohol and not
giving into my scary thoughts and and
refusing to quit looking I call it
seeking which I love that's the name of
your podcast I I say it in my book
everywhere I became a seeker of all
things that I didn't understand and I
understood nothing so I had a lot of
work to do yeah yeah um so you know
you're laying on your bed and you hear
this voice yeah what happens when you
hear the voice and then two what's next
how do you engage it how do you move to
the next phase with that because a lot
of people have had those experiences
whether it's the voice of a loved one or
an angel or even the voice of God even
like you can hear it and just okay
whatever but then how do you engage it
like what's the next step there well for
me so I immediately jumped up you know
Mom just seriously so loud and I know
that he was just he was being loud
because he was trying to get through my
grief right I mean we all know that when
we're in heavy heavy grieving it is
difficult to hear and to feel spirit
because I think it's hard for them to
penetrate so many layers if you if you
know anything about energy work and the
layers of the body and how hard it must
be to get through all of those layers
right alcohol's numbing you and all that
kind of stuff too yeah so um you know
Mom and I jumped up and I first thing I
did was run to my bookcase and I'm like
you know because I'm like where are you
where are you and I I was listening and
I didn't hear anything else so I ran to
my I I knew three things right away when
that happened I intuitively knew that he
still lived you know that in some form
he wasn't gone I knew that I could still
have a relationship with him and I knew
that I could find him so that was just
kind of where my thoughts took me and I
immediately ran to my bookcase and I'm
scouring my shelves looking for anything
about the afterlife and there's nothing
because I had no I had no awareness I
you know I had no understanding of any
of that and um so I I went to Barnes &
Noble and I you know bought books and I
I I came home with a pile of books and
the first book I read was George
Anderson's lessons from the light uh
which is a wonderful book um where he
tells uh basically stories of the
connections that he's made for people
with their loved ones um on the other
side and I was just fascinated I I
couldn't get enough and you know from
there I read so many so many books and
they're all listed in the back of my
book as resources the books that helped
me the most um so I list out I call them
my healing toolbox and all of the books
I read and the teachers that helped me
along the way and um things like that so
the first and so then so so I'm I'm just
reading right that was where the journey
first took me was reading and trying to
like comprehend this this like what what
this is like he's okay so he died he's
in heaven I get that but I can still
communicate with him somebody can
communicate with him at that point I
didn't know that I could do it myself
and so about I'm gonna say about three
weeks everything was like in three week
Cycles about three weeks after that um
my husband and I went to the grocery
store and
I had not left my home really hardly at
all because I had panic attacks every
time I would leave
and uh we went to the grocery store and
there's this uh woman that I recognized
in the produce department and her son
and my son had been friends and her son
and our daughter had um my stepdaughter
our daughter um had uh dated so we knew
the family well and I did not want to
talk to her because one of the things
that you dreaded as a newly grieving
person when you venture out is
encountering people and how they look at
you with that sadness but it's kind of
that look of I'm so sorry for you but
I'm glad it wasn't me that's what I
imagined that I saw in everybody's eyes
and I just didn't want to face that but
this little voice you know the voice
right Derek that little voice said go
talk to her I said nope not no don't
want to talk to her go talk to her nope
nope nope so the third time the boy said
go talk to her and I'm like okay I said
it out loud people are like who is this
woman talking and um so I walked up to
her and I said hi Carol how are you and
she goes Paige hi how's how's Brian and
I just collapsed she didn't know she
didn't know that he had died and I'm
like how do how do you not know this you
live in Eagle Idaho a small community it
was all over the news for you know for
months and months but this was only like
six weeks after he died I mean it was
still all over the news anyhow she
didn't know and um she said well how can
I help and I said ah unless you happen
to know of a good psychic well you know
what's coming right she said well as a
matter of fact I do and I'm having a
group message Circle at my home in three
weeks three weeks again with the three
weeks and um would you like to come I
have two seats open and I'm like yes yes
yes so that is what my entire Journey
has been has been
Spirit to me I use the term Spirit God
my loved ones my Spirit guides you know
spirit I use that word
you know it's all encompassing right I
love the I love the feeling of spirit
right it just it is all encompassing and
warm um and inviting um anyhow so I went
to that message Circle and I was blown
away let me tell you absolutely blown
away and turns out he's the same guy who
lives in a neighboring community and I
had heard him on the radio years ago and
even recently prior to meeting her in
the grocery store had flashed on him you
know like hey there's that guy in NAA
you know but had never pursued the
thought and then here he is and um he
changed my world because he knew things
about the um the actual crime that were
never reported in the news he knew the
names of the two boys that were with
Brian that were never reported in the
news media um he just knew everything
and my grandfather had brought Brian
forward that night it was just it was
riveting and everything he said was
exactly right on and this is the first
time I'd ever even considered going to a
psychic and um and I didn't know if I
believed or didn't believe but I was
shaking like a leaf I was terrified and
um and he he changed my world I
immediately signed up for psychic
development classes with him and I
started those in January and then you
know I went to I did psychic development
you know one and two and then angels and
guides workshop and you know da da da
right so I just kept doing what was in
front of me to do I I saw the steps you
know I opportunities were laid at my
feet and I said yes and I always tell
people that's really the most important
thing is
to be present in the moment enough to
know that these are opportunities that
are being laid at your feet and if you
say yes just think of where you know
think of where they might go think of
what might H what might be waiting for
you but we have to be open enough to see
the opportunity and you know the
messages that are coming to us and then
it's our job to discern is it good for
me or right for me and then lastly to
say yes if if if it is and that
listening to that inner voice that led
me to Carol that led me to David that
led me to those classes that led me to a
year-long development circle with you
know like-minded Souls um all of and
that meeting one of the people in that
group led me to a conference in Sun
Valley Idaho with my friend
who which led me to a man um whose wife
was doing an annual Retreat for moms who
have children in spirit I mean that and
so I got accepted into that I mean
everything One Step led to another and I
just kept saying yes and my mind was
spinning and I was reeling and it was so
much information because I knew nothing
and I just was a sponge I just was
soaking it in and I couldn't get enough
to be honest with you and so along the
way of all that learning and all that
seeking that I was doing Brian was
popping in with signs and Little
Miracles here and there um some really
great just some really great stories
that I lay out in the book um but his
main thing was um sending me ladybugs
and he sent me ladybugs because I asked
him to send me a ladybug this kind of
random thing that happened one day and
um and I got my first ladybug that night
and um so
I'll pause and let you ask a question
but that's how that's how the whole it's
just been a ride I'm telling you it's
been an amazing incredible journey that
I'm so grateful for yeah and you're
talking about your own healing and
healing comes through many different
ways in that whether it's doing a
healing session with somebody but I
think that whole path is a piece of the
healing right of getting in what we
would call the energy the beauty God's
grace the presence of God and finding
healing
you know and uh and knowing that you're
not alone feeling like you know here's
my son you know and now he's gone and
now I'm alone I have people around me my
husband friends but I'm alone and then
the spiritual process is knowing hey
you're not alone that spirit Spirit
beings Angels God everything is you
you're a part of the all and for for you
know what that does for your self-esteem
for me when I became a Christian and had
entered this relationship with Jesus and
I never felt alone that was one of the
key things that I was always a lonely
depressed individual and from that
moment on sitting in my room living room
it was never just me from that moment on
I was always with a companion a friend
and it was God right that that right
there in of itself the just the healing
that comes from this this uh
spirituality right it's a peace it's a
peace that you know you allow that into
your heart and um yes that's so that's
so beautiful thanks for sharing that I
love that for you so you you say that uh
your son wanted to to to write this book
and you guys wrote this this new book
together what was that process like just
kind of stepping into that so the pro it
it was a little bit of a journey I'm not
gonna lie um it's it so years I I always
journaled right somebody at one point
said oh you should Journal everything
thing and so I did and I I was never a
journaler journaler before but I started
to journal and I particularly kept a
journal of what I called my Brian
Miracles so every sign every time he you
know every time every time anything
happened that was kind of Supernatural I
wrote it down um and I was glad I did by
the way because when the signs start
coming a little bit less you know those
signs of like the light flickering or
the music playing or the TV pausing in
midair you know no reason those types of
things um they they they seem to come
more frequently in the first year or two
and then they kind of slow down I think
some
cases um the receiver of the in of the
signs is not as needy of them perhaps
but I also think that those of us that
continue the journey we start to feel
and accept and experience our loved ones
in a in a much deeper way than receiving
the signs although the signs are amazing
and I do still ask Brian for a lady but
I'm like show me give me a ladybug
please anyhow so um so so I so I wrote
everything down and um because we're
always needy right I just had to it's
like I'm so needy I'm so needy of him
but um that's just that's the
relationship between a parent and a
child right we need their love and to
imagine I couldn't imagine and I know
I'm not answering your question and I
will but I couldn't
imagine a week without my son much less
a month or a year I mean really just I
couldn't even let my brain go there and
now it's been 12 years over 12 years and
I'm like what like how in the heck did
that happen and um I think but even
though it's been 12 years and I haven't
always been 100% on my journey I've
never stepped away I've always stayed on
path um in some way and always always my
goal is becoming closer to him and
becoming better connected to him and
expanding my awareness my Consciousness
and my relationship with God to allow me
to do those things so that's 100% who I
am and what I'm about so when I had the
I was actually in 2010 when I was at the
retreat in Sun Valley that the um the
woman who facilitated that Retreat said
because she channeled Brian and she said
you know you know you know you guys can
write a book or actually it was Brian
that said through her you know Mom we
can write a book if you want to and that
was in 2010 and Brian was a great writer
by the way he was really a very gifted
writer had won some awards you know
throughout his life in different little
writing contests that he'd entered and
um and I'm like yeah you know whatever I
you know I just can't focus I couldn't
read a book much less write one for
years and then over time because the
grief is you know you just can't
concentrate um when you have a deep
grief like that you're just like
everything changes and you just can't
concentrate on anything other than your
child and where are they um anyhow so
then um
I was I was interviewing a man uh kind
of a global interview um I opened a
Healing Center and as part of that I was
interviewing this man who was uh fairly
well known and I was interviewing him
about his book and I think that was when
it triggered to me um that I really
could write a book you know we really
could write a book so I sat down and
started to write it and it took it took
it took probably five years just from
beginning to end because I'm not retired
and um this is not my only job that I do
you know so I have other at the time I
was um I think I had retired from one
career and was just helping my husband
with his businesses but um we just
started piecing it together and it
wasn't
until um and and I really was doing it
by way of a Blog so I was just a Blog
here and a Blog there and then those
blogs became some of the chapters and
then I expanded on them I did that too
right yeah well because why not you know
why recreate the wheel it's already
there and so the book can I hold up the
book book go ahead M for those watching
the book is called choose to believe a
story of Miracles healing and the
afterlife and um there's a little
ladybug on this of stick in the sand
because you know the ladybug has been so
prominent in our journey um but I always
say that Brian Brian really did co-write
this book with me and um it became it
became it became a um uh I guess just
just a memoir in a way but really not
about Brian's life it's about the
healing and it's about exactly what
we're talking about and it's the steps
that we took along the journey one that
led to another and it gives tools on how
to
survive um the deepest of grief surges I
call them and ways um basically it's
everything that helped me on my journey
so that it might help you on yours and
um it was in 20 what are we in 2021 2019
I was like gotta finish the book gotta
finish the book it became urgent for me
to finish the book and I'm like okay so
I retired um and hired somebody to
replace me for the work I do at my
husband's businesses I had already given
up my real estate career by then and um
and and I stayed home for a year and I
wrote the and I worked furiously on the
book for about six months and then right
right when I announced on Facebook that
I was one chapter away I was stricken
with adhesive capsulitis and I could not
move my entire arm and shoulder more
than like an inch from my body without
incred I couldn't move it period and it
was incredible debilitating pain for
seven months so so much for that year
right I couldn't write I couldn't type I
couldn't I couldn't wash my hair I
couldn't hang anything in the closet and
so I didn't understand I was so close to
finishing why why why you know has this
happened to me and um so bring in more
healing bring in more releasing of pain
because the journey is so much about
releasing pain new layers of pain new
teachers new
healers and then finally in January I
had a procedure a surgical procedure
that fixed the you know the movement of
my arm and I was able to proceed so
what's interesting about that particular
particularly is
that made it so that the book could not
have been published in 2019 the book had
to be published in
2020 so uh which I find interesting
because I do a little bit of numerology
work and 2020 was a nine-year for me
which is the end of a cycle so now it
makes sense to me it's like oh I see why
I was publishing the book in 2020 end of
my nine-year cycle I'm now in a new onee
of a new nine-year cycle so I get the
opportunity to reinvent myself again so
so I I just I don't know why I told you
that I just find that really interesting
how that worked out and I was so
completely uh broken by the frozen
shoulder which is what that is um that
um I wasn't sure I would survive it but
I did and and you so you can only see
growth when you look back on your pain
right you can't see your growth when
you're in your pain so just like with
grief you know when you have some time
under your belt I always say although
time doesn't heal time does make the
pain softer and especially if we're
continuing to work on our healing
consciously every day and we consciously
create um who we are and who we want to
be and what we want our lives to be like
and um anyhow so it was the same way you
know looking back on the pain that I had
from the frozen shoulder yeah um man one
of the things that uh you know just
Rings true for me is what you said about
saying yes and not just doing it the
first time you know or saying you know
who's there who who is it you know that
kind of thing and hearing that voice and
saying yes to that but consciously and
continuously saying yes to the journey
saying yes to the process and you know
following the signs the synchronicities
that are led by God by spirit that uh
will bring you into your destiny what
you're supposed to be doing and and and
finding out what that is but in enjoying
the process all of it the healing the
undoing the butterfly coming out of the
the Cocoon you know and just that
transformation process if you have to
say yes many people say yes and then
they stop but just continuing to say yes
I'm I'm with that that rings so true for
me too and I think also um like in
regard to the timing of the book you
have to say yes and then you also have
to allow things to unfold which can be
very difficult to do that seven months
of not being able to move arm and not
being able to write where really I was I
was angry I was you know like it just
was a bad time but by allowing by
allowing that to by allowing that to be
what was because it was I couldn't
change it I couldn't do anything about
it other than seek whatever healing I
could seek but what I understood
eventually was that because the healing
of the frozen shoulder uncovered all
this new pain all the these new layers
of pain and grief that the book was
going to be a better
book right at the end of that because I
was going to have I had all kinds of new
awareness and new understanding and um
really much more in in touch with my
true self after that process and so the
book became a better book so that's all
by Design I had I had nothing to do with
it that's all by design of of God of my
higher power um to say h no not quite
ready yet not quite ready yet and sorry
but but this is what we're going to have
to do because that seems to be how um I
don't even want to say that out loud but
I seem to learn through pain yeah which
I think so many of us do right yeah yeah
you move from being a uh you know a
victim to a Victor even in your own
circumstances you know not complain and
you and you look at every situation
everything every distraction every
setback as a setup that slingshot you
into the place where you're supposed to
be so you're not in this place where
you're complaining and even it's a place
of gratitude it's a place of learning uh
even in traffic sitting in traffic where
you know usually I got to get there I'm
supposed to be there here I'm late I got
to sit in traffic there's a wreck up
there it's like there's different ways
that we look at that now like instead of
you know getting angry or okay there's a
reason that I'm I'm in this uh you know
traffic that um you know I'm supposed to
be a little bit late I'm supposed to see
something I'm supposed to avoid maybe
that wreck would have been me if I was
on exact you know those kind of
different ways that we look at things
versus being a victim to the traffic you
know or the circumstance we find out
listen that all things work together for
our good and uh and you know how can you
be a victim in that
situation that's right and it's we're
not always
perfect we're not always perfect in
traffic are we um but it's for me that's
a goal that's a goal is to never get
angry never get traffic angry again but
yeah you're absolutely right um so with
uh you know tapping in the spirit and
and receiving inspiration to to write
the book and moving forward um what are
some of the the different um testimonies
that you're getting from people I know
you have like you know when people buy
the book they can write reviews on
Amazon that's one thing you go back and
read the reviews and see how people um
are responding to the work but um
whether whether it's that or people
reaching out to you or even in person
like how is your work serving people
what are some of the testimonies that
you're hearing how this book is changing
lives oh you're so thank you for asking
that I don't think anybody's asked me
that um it's it's it's heartwarming and
it's um humbling I got to tell you
because the the feedback from people and
it's almost daily that I get a Facebook
message or you know messenger message or
an email through my website or however
people are finding me um and a lot of
times people I know I'll tell you an
interesting story in a minute um but
they're they're just so grateful they're
so grateful that the book is there they
absolutely 100% are resonating with it
because our grief Journeys are similar
it seems like there's so much similarity
but yet we each follow our own unique
path because you know our loved ones
were unique our loved ones are unique
the how they died is unique you know to
that situation um so not all the
circumstances are the same but there's
so much similarity that I I just felt
like when I wrote wrot the book that
somebody would be able to follow along
and be like Oh I'm going to I want to
check into that what what is she talking
about I can still have a relationship
with my child or my husband or my you
know my parent what is she talking about
and how can I find out more about that
or you know oh she experienced that too
so I'm not crazy that was another big
reason we wrote the book was you know to
let people know you're not crazy um this
is exactly you're right where you're
supposed to be um and you're following
you know the exact time that you're
supposed to follow on your journey but
here are some hints here are some ideas
and so people have really resonated with
that um they've been very kind um you
know they are
saying uh I think they just want more
information so it's really been
accumulating all of that and like well
what do people what do people want what
they want is to have a relationship with
their loved one who died that's really
what they want and so my book is this
pathway toward being able to get to
where they can do that um it's a pathway
that really is what it is and so the
response has been overwhelming and yeah
very little of it is actually on Amazon
um but uh but I get it daily and so it
always not always but it often comes in
places you don't expect also so my
ex-husband who has not been on this
spiritual journey Brian's father
um he you know he's followed his own
Journey he has his own on path and so we
have not um since since the funeral
really we haven't um conspired really
since the trial I should say which was
the summer following uh Brian's death
and uh we haven't communicated much so
he's not on the same Journey as I am he
doesn't really want to talk about any of
this and just the other day his cousin
who lives in Colorado wrote to me out of
the blue and said you know my gosh I
just got your book I'm only a third of
the way through it um a lot of people
write to me when they're just a third of
or a half of the way through it just to
pause and kind of talk to me about where
they're at in the process of reading the
book which is really cool um and he said
I just had to write and tell you that I
just am blown away and I believe so many
of these same things and keeping in mind
this is a very conservative family right
not you wouldn't have expected them to
believe the things that I believe and
turns out his granddaughter had been
killed two years ago in a horrific
horrific car accident and I had not even
known that and um so then he bought you
know he bought a book for his daughter
and for his his wife to help or for his
yeah it was his granddaughter so um to
help them too because my story resonated
with him so much so that was so touching
because I know the family he told me he
had been at Brian's funeral which I
don't remember because who remembers
that day you know I don't really
remember much of that day um anyhow that
was particularly touching and I think
when I hear when I hear from people who
um who were like me who who knew nothing
well really most of them don't most of
us don't know anything about this
journey we don't know anything about the
afterlife you know until until we're
kind of catapulted onto this journey by
something as devastating as the loss of
a great loved one I don't may like to
say lost because they're not lost but
the death of a great loved
one um have you um have you have you
watched stranger
things I have not watched stranger
things should I should I watch
there's a scene in the first I believe
it's the first season um and I have the
scene pulled up but um the uh lady Joyce
loses and she's played by one um one on
the rider but she loses her son um
pretty much gets he pretty much dies and
he's on the other side but he's trying
to communicate and he's doing little
things like flickering the lights and
stuff like that to communicate with this
mom and she's frantic everybody thinks
she's losing her mind and she's a
grieving mother who trying to find her
son and she doesn't believe that he's
dead and here he is communicating
through flickering the lights and stuff
like that and finally like going through
that grief and having that experience
brings her back to her sanity I wasn't
crazy see here's the proof and yes you
know I think I think the biggest proof
of it all and for you as well like that
your life is the the proof of of your
spirituality your belief system that is
manifested through being more
loving being more at peace and all of
these things and so uh for the naysayers
obviously like if you would have stayed
in that place of uh you know just
recklessness or whatever it was just a
part of the process that we all go
through in different ways like you you
use that as Alchemy you know you use
that to get to the next level and people
can see that and so now they come in a
choir and not just read your book but
want to ask questions because they are
you know they want what you got kind of
thing how did you make it through
because not everybody does you know you
just nailed it that's exactly that
really is they want what you have and um
so I'm committed to that I'm committed
to teaching that and to offering that um
um I love you'll have to tell me what
the episode is of of stranger things I
would love to watch it because I I I was
like people think I'm crazy and that was
one of the interesting things about
putting the book out was that I can't
hide anymore everybody knows now I
didn't keep anything out of this book
and um there is no more hiding so I
people um I I really felt like 2020 was
a year of authenticity when we were
being called to um really kind of
discover who we are I mean we were kind
of forced into that weren't we with
covid and kind of not being able to
socialize and not being able to follow
our normal routines most of us so I
really felt like for me uh 2020 was a
calling to be authentic and obviously
you know how do you not uh how do you
not do that when you're when you're
telling your life story and
Communications with the afterlife right
and a little bit of channeling and
things like that so um are you pulling
it up that's I can't watch short clip
maybe I won't get flagged but I'll let
you see it real quick
okay for
will are you
here oh my God good good good
good blink once for y
twice for no can you do that for me
sweetie can
you good boy good
boy maybe I need to
know are you
Al are you safe
uh I need to know where to find you and
where where are you can you can you tell
me where you are can
you please baby I need to find you tell
me what to do yeah it's pretty intense
you have to tell me how it
ends I'm gonna have to go get it yeah
yeah so he was so he wasn't dead he was
taken to the other side where you know
into the Afterlife I guess but he was
still alive and so there's like people
trying to get him and all that kind of
stuff so anyway definely up until that
point I was all like wo and then I'm
like
oh well because he was yeah he was there
in in body his body was like somewhere
else trapped but yeah yeah no it's
pretty emotional now we we just watched
um Soul last night have you seen that I
did watch it last week yes that was that
was pretty good too that was pretty good
pretty good yeah that was pretty good I
had an astral travel um uh experience
with Brian um once uh through meditation
most of my connection is through
meditation um although I do still feel
his energy and he sends me these he
sends me these physical hugs where I
receive him his energy through my
physical body which is
incredibly uh beautiful and intense and
I love them uh but one time in
meditation I I think I astral traveled
um to where to heaven for lack of a
better word and was received by Brian
and and all of my loved ones in spirit
because there are many and um they
wrapped me up in their love and
just it was almost painful I I I tell
the whole story in the book and I don't
want to I know you're probably almost
out of time with me but it was an
incredible EXP experience and it was so
intense the love that they were giving
me that it it was painful to my physical
body which I was still aware of um and
anyhow and then then right when I didn't
think I could handle the intensity of it
any longer they let me go and Brian took
me and was showing me how he flies and
it was it was an amazing experience yeah
yeah it's amazing you can feel it
physically what's that I said it was
it's that's amazing that you could feel
it
physically oh yes yeah like just yeah
pain in my belly I feel a lot in my
belly I feel like that's kind of a um I
mean I am raiki certified so I
understand the chakra system and all
that but um yeah it was kind of
interesting yeah that I felt it as
intensely as I did yeah yeah um when
you're in those those places man it's
like that's the real world you know that
I think that is the you know the place
that is eternal this place we're in
right now is temporary you know have you
asked traveled or had an experience oh
yeah yep many many many many and uh yeah
it's you you know and I say that we I
feel like you go to the place that we go
to when we die you know like this is
this is what and for and for me it
wasn't we're not we don't even look like
this anymore it's energy it's Essence
it's uh shapes and colors and and things
and you can maybe make out stuff but as
far as like thinking that it's just
going to look like this it's beautiful
it is energy you know and um I've been
there for sure and uh but you know
nothing nothing more beautiful I was
just gonna say there's just nothing more
beautiful you come back in it changes
you you know once you know no matter how
you got there no matter how you
experienced it and for me like just I
guess going back to that that movie Soul
like you come back into your Soul's
purpose like what am I doing here when
you have a breakthrough experience or
have that Spiritual Awakening and trust
me when you you know experience that
it's you know you're you're going to uh
be thrust into a spiritual awakening uh
even deeper than you already thought you
knew and so it changes everything and um
the Assurance of an afterlife too and
that's why I really like having these
conversations and um talking about even
the Paranormal you know the spiritual
and the Paranormal because it gives it
gives some some Credence to the
afterlife and what happens uh after our
our time here is done and so your story
and experiences man they they just I
love them I love them oh thank you I
love them too I'm so grateful I'm so
grateful that for whatever reason I was
chosen to well I believe in pre-birth
planning and all of those things which
we probably don't have time to get into
but I know that Brian and I planned this
life together I know that he uh that he
that he planned that it would be good
possibility that he would die young I've
almost lost him two other times and and
that as part of that plan it would
launch me on my journey and that we
would continue um that we we would
really launch into our great work right
what my teacher Sue fedick calls my
great work um which is helping other
people and so that's what we're doing
and it started with well it started with
opening The Healing Center so many years
ago which is no longer open um but has
kind of come to the publication of the
book and then now everything online so I
do a monthly um I just finished an
eight-week series of um helping people
um uh we call it a reconnection
meditation where they can um take the
steps uh learn the meditation I use
Mantra and we use automatic writing as a
way to connect to our loved one we just
finished an eight eight week over the
holidays uh weekly Gathering doing that
exercise and then um starting going
forward the fourth Monday of every month
we do a free I call it um spiritual
tools for grief healing and so there's
no cost for that people just have to
subscribe to my newsletter to get the
zoom link um and that's on my website at
pw.com it's p AIG G wle
e.com and uh each month we'll discuss
different tools and um spiritual
insights and whatever spirit says we're
going to talk about that's what we'll
talk about so um I'm excited to be able
to continue that because the uh
reconnection meditation was so well
received um by so many people and uh
look forward to continuing that kind of
sharing and uh and I do do grief
coaching as well so awesome well thank
you Paige for coming on and hanging out
um if people want to get a copy of the
book where's the best place to go
probably you know Amazon Barnes & Noble
any online book retailer um it is choose
to believe a story of Miracles healing
and the afterlife thank you awesome
thanks so much for hanging out with me
my friend we have to do it again thank
you yeah I love speaking with you thank
you you so much and have a great day you
too many blessings bye everybody yes bye
bye bye Paige Lee ladies and
gentlemen great talk spirit world Spirit
realm and how we interact with it how it
interacts with us how we are
entertaining angels
unaware and uh everybody has a story man
everybody has uh their e experiences and
um Everybody holds a piece of the puzzle
and so anybody who's dealing with grief
it can change you um you know what the
enemy meant for your harm God can in
turn use for your good and it's
beautiful to see that when a when a
spiritual awakening happens it's usually
after a what we'll call Dark Night of
the
Soul after you go through something very
traumatic that changes you it rewies
your brain again and makes you open to
receive um um you're looking for answers
be before you're you were preoccupied
with life you know you're preoccupied
with other stuff until you see how
finite this existence is you know you go
through something and many times many
many many times it is after the death of
a child that people have a spiritual
awakening or um they they're just at you
know the end of their rope and then they
have a breakthrough they they have a
revelation they have an encounter an
experience that changes them forever and
so um I know people and um who who have
had that I mean you know the bethl thing
it just recently where the little the
little girl died and they were you know
trying to raise the little girl from the
dead and it didn't it didn't work you
know and they got a lot of scrutiny and
even just the the faith or the belief
that it takes to to even announce that
uh as being a a c they did as a campaign
but I I know people who uh who have lost
children and and um they believe for a
miracle they believe for the child to
come back and they didn't
so um they changes
you changes you and we go through grief
and and Trauma and uh let it change you
for the better you know you go through
stuff I mean it's almost inevitable many
people you know take the easy route of
drug and alcohol um early on but even
that you know you find out that that's
not working and you shake that off and
you say what's next whatever it is if
you know people have caught you know
been their spouses were caught in an
affair boom drugs and alcohol rock
bottom and then okay this ain't working
shake it off time for an
Awakening what's next it's God it is the
all the movie stranger things I mean
again I've just seeing when she's
talking about hearing you know that
voice and then having the lights flicker
and all of that stuff and spirit
communicating with her and um her son it
reminded me of stranger things then I
watched the movie Soul last night again
if you haven't seen that it is
definitely about finding your Soul's
purpose and uh finding out why you're
here what is your Soul's purpose real
inspirational Disney did an amazing job
with that um really good stuff
explaining the afterlife and uh
incarnating here uh as uh different
beings really interesting stuff I think
she was getting some Flack from the
Christian Community but uh most Disney
movies do or you know so it is what it
is but I thought it was awesome we
watched it last night it's good stuff um
man like I said I've been uh been
working hard on on uh my studio and my
setup and uh we're we I think this is
the second podcast that I've done um
since being moved here second or third
and still waiting for stuff to come in
um upgrading my uh my room or my
equipment and all that kind of stuff
we're going to be doing a lot more the
Thursday night school of the mystics is
coming up excited for that we're
probably going to uh live stream those
and then everybody who is patrons will
be able to do like the second hour um of
just the patron hangout so I'll probably
do a first hour tapping in through
through prayer and meditation second
hour will be um uh just for Patron
Hangout Discord and and one-on-one stuff
so if you want to uh get in on that make
sure that you uh become a patron at any
any level so you'll get access to that
and get all the links and that kind of
stuff so if anybody has the uh the
patreon patreon links um uh and and the
zoom links to to join the live streams
and ask questions and all that kind of
stuff feel free uh I should send it out
every time but the zoom link is the same
uh for the most part so if anybody
wanted to jump on and ask questions
that's one of the things too that we've
opened up for um the patron listeners is
to be able to jump on here and ask
questions during the live stream so
that's one thing you get when you catch
it live um and ask questions and just
hang out so I always want to open that
up too I didn't send out the link but if
you're a patron just go to patreon
you'll see the link if you want to come
in and hang out for a few minutes before
the stream ends you you have the ability
to do that and ask questions with the
guest so um yeah I want to do some more
streams man some more live streams I
want to just do some some fun stuff too
you know uh I want to do some stuff with
like uh introducing um some of my
favorite music I know I think I talked
about it last stream but do a stream
where I'm
uh top 10 spiritual hip-hop songs top 10
that kind of stuff and really just hang
out and introduce you guys to some stuff
that inspired me I think that' be really
cool as well um if you're not following
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you know one one platform will show you
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um Gothic says nothing is showing on my
end well it was one that was said you
got to look at one of the ones for the
other one one of the other uh streams
that we did so it won't I didn't send
out nothing today but it's the same link
so it is the same link um let me do this
I W to and I'm just going to do this for
a second I'm not going to tell you guys
it's a surprise I've been working on a
song um we shot a video for it yesterday
uh finished mixing and mastering it
it'll be up on um Spotify soon and I'm
just going to show the cover and I'm
going to take it right off really quick
just give you guys a sneak Peet for
hanging out because I love you so if you
want to see it I'm not even going to
tell you what song it is if you can read
it the text is pretty small if you can
read it if you can't boom it's it's gone
uh tease it man tease it got got new
music coming out working on new music so
uh make sure that you are subscribe make
sure that you are a patron you'll be the
first to hear it when everything's done
I'm going to send the links out make it
public all that good stuff so uh make
sure you check it out um that's pretty
much it man just kind of filling you
guys in on the on the updates and
uh nothing much really looking forward
to Thursday another Podcast Thursday
night School of the mystics and uh I'm
still I'm still working my butt off
y'all still working my butt off as far
as like trying to create trying to do
what I do to uh to make a living support
my family and uh but we're still in the
middle of a moving process we're in our
new place but we have so much stuff at
the other place that we got to go back
and and uh and and get out of there so
that's a that's a we kind of took
everything we want and some stuff left
over but we got to go back and empty it
out that's just what it is
um lot of work lot of work so anyway I'm
working on a lot creating a lot so with
that I'm G say peace Shalom love you
guys uh Ally Gothic and and chrisy I had
an awesome stream last night I was in
and out of it while we were watching the
movie but it was good and I love you
guys so with that I'm going say peace
we'll do it again soon guys peace peace
shalom shalom
your higher than mine
so much higher than mine so much deeper
than M so much deeper than mine well
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