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Dream Interpretation | Layne Dalfen
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I'm gonna be speaking with Lainey
dolphin about dream interpretation
Lainey welcome to the show how are you
I'm good Derek thank you so much for
inviting me oh yeah so just a blessing
and a privilege to have you here I've
been writing I'm trying to write my
magnum opus about everything I know in
the spirit right
all of these encounters how angels
operate dreams visions and stuff like
that and I really just got done writing
some on the subject of dreams and dream
interpretation there's a lot of stuff in
the Bible that's really interesting when
it comes to god-given dreams to man and
communicating with mankind through
dreams visions and met the imagination
those type of things there's a scripture
I just kind of want to start off with
that always intrigued me especially when
it comes to dreams but it's a Job 33:16
and it says in a dream in a vision of
the night when deep sleep falleth upon
men in slum brings upon the bed it says
then he meaning God opening openeth the
ears of men and seal if their
instruction so every night when we go to
bed
something happens one of the things that
happens the Bible says is that God opens
up our ears so that we can hear and
understand from the dreams and visions
of the nighttime so there's a lot of
that stuff all throughout the Bible it's
very interesting to me and like I said
at the beginning every holy text and
tablet has to deal with this type of
stuff so I'm excited to explore this
with you a little bit today if you want
to start off it'd be a really good place
to start just kind of tell people who
you are and what you bring to the table
that'd be awesome I love what you just
said and it's similar not similar it's
the same philosophy that I have and so
this is what I'm here to say because I
have a people different people have
different perspectives about dreams and
I have many perspectives that
dreams but what I'm gonna talk about
today is my main perspective and that is
to and I take the mystery away and
that's what I'm gonna do here today for
you and so the dream at the first level
so I'm not going deep yet at the first
level the dream is about something that
either happened to you yesterday or
something that you thought about
yesterday and the dream is the
discussion that you're having with
yourself about a very specific current
issue that you are attempting to
problem-solve this week so I'm not going
deep yet about what else I like too I'm
a first things first kind of girl and I
like to and that's the reason why I
wrote two books because the first book
just tells you how to do it in like a
hundred pages or less and that includes
the pictures because I just want to
teach you how to decode why you had that
dream last night and the incredible news
I have for you which kind of goes so
nicely with the way you opened up the
show is that the solution to the issue
comes to you in your unconscious of
course before it gets to your conscious
and so if you only know what the heck
you're trying to say to yourself with
those pictures and metaphors and that's
what I teach you to uncover I teach you
how to uncover and deconstruct the
language of the pictures that's what I
do and once you tell me because I do it
through a series of questions
it's the dreamer who ends up telling me
what the dream is about and once you've
named the situation oh I'm not happy
with my job I want to break off with my
girlfriend once we find out what event
triggered that dream for you then we go
back in the dream and I teach people
what a solution looks like when it comes
in the form of a metaphor and if you
give me like about maybe
two minutes I could go right to the
depth so and then I'll give you a one
picture dream and it'll tell you so we
know for the rest of our discussion
exactly where I'm coming from okay I
just want me to do that okay so here's
what I would say and and it's the reason
why I do dream analysis and why I've
been doing it for 45 years this is the
reason I do it because when we are born
we are born whole we come into this
world with a plethora of possibility and
I like to call it potential excuse me I
am definitely coming down with something
me too y'all sent energy definitely I am
too it's crazy I gotta send it right
back to you and so we have the potential
to be selfish giving shy assertive a
hero we could be a chicken you know
those people that are always the ones
who are initiating I get together and
the people who are always on the
receiving end or maybe you are the
comedian in your family or maybe you
were more serious so we come in hole we
have every possibility and the people
that bring you up teach you that it's
better to be one way than another way
and so we become what Frederick Perls
called over-invested in certain aspects
of our personality and underinvested in
others and so you would have called your
underinvested sides your shadow and
Freud would have called your
over-exercise parts your habitual
responses to life situation and so he
would have called it repetition
compulsion and that's what we do it's
like we keep repeating the same boring
responses to waking life situations and
it's because there's so many parts of
ourselves that are under exercise so I'm
gonna give you a very quick and a
wonderful example it's like one of my
fav
it's is that if you're born into a home
with siblings you probably get the
message that it's not okay to be selfish
because you hear things like go share
your toys with your brother look after
your sister and your whole life
experience anyways is all about sharing
your parents attention and so your whole
being is about this thing about sharing
and so I'm conversely if you're brought
up as an only child
you really you don't have to share your
toys you don't have to share your
parents attention and you automatically
become more relaxed and comfortable with
doing things for yourself and what that
turns up looking like and I don't say
it's in all cases but in the majority of
cases what you'll find is you know those
people that just don't know how to say
no you don't know how to look after
themselves to the point where they're
always saying yes and those are people
that typically come from a home with
siblings and people who are okay about
looking after themselves more typically
come from a life experience a childhood
experience where there doesn't need to
be a lot of sharing so here's a man who
was dreaming it's a one picture dream
and I'm saying it also because I want
you to know that if you have trouble
with dream recall you don't have to
remember a story with a beginning a
middle and an end because that
expression one picture is worth a
thousand words is really true and so
here's a man dreaming that he's climbing
up a ladder and papers are everywhere
there's paper all over the place and the
higher he goes up the ladder the more
paper fills in and at the top of the
ladder is this man who was his college
roommate who has not seen in like 20
years
but using a symbols point of entry I'm
going to teach you several points of
entry today but using a symbols point of
entry I asked him to tell me very
quickly what are the first two or three
things that come to your mind about that
guy and this is what he said he said I'm
gonna say it exactly he said oh I
associate him as a selfish take care of
me first kind of guy that's how he
described him and the dream was about
the fact that the dreamer has work piled
all over his desk that's all the papers
in the dream and he uses a ladder
because you know climbing the corporate
ladder so he uses a metaphor of the
ladder to link him to link his
sophisticated unconscious and memory
base he's linking himself to using a
ladder to talk about his work and the
paper that he has all this work on his
desk and the incident that triggered the
dream was his friends the day before
asked him they were trying to make plans
to go see a movie and really the truth
is the dreamer doesn't want to go to a
movie but he doesn't have what it takes
to say no and so he dreams about this
some selfish take care of me kind of guy
roommate and that's who's encouraging
him up the ladder and so the what
happens is your ego or yourself you take
the part in the dream that you feel the
most comfortable with and you give out
all the other parts of yourself to
different people places and things even
animals and so this dreamer the the
roommate is the solution to the issue
the dreamer needs to access that
potential that he has to take care of
himself
and to say no I don't want to go to a
movie I want to stay I want to stay by
my desk and finish up my work so I can
feel relaxed and so because he
understood the analysis of the dream it
encouraged him he's not going to become
that selfish guy overnight I'm not here
to tell you that change is easy I am
here to tell you that change is possible
and the solutions to the issues appear
in the dream in the form of a metaphor
and it is your first opportunity when
they appear to
exercise these under exercised aspects
of your personality and what's the prize
that you get the first time you go to
the gym we all know if you're using a
muscle you haven't used before it really
hurts the next day and it hurts even
more two days later so the first time
that this guy picks up the phone to tell
his friends I'm not gonna go to a movie
it feels weird and uncomfortable and
strained because he's not used to
speaking up for himself but now he's
exercise that muscle one time and what
does that look like next time next time
it's a little easier and the time after
that it's a little easier and after 15
years of practicing saying no when it
fits you know because in my world I know
I'll just say this before I finish in my
world there's no good or bad there's no
right or wrong for me it's all about
appropriate and inappropriate what is
the appropriate response was this
dreamers situation that he brought
forward is it appropriate for him to go
to a movie or is it more appropriate for
him to pay attention to himself and this
way you become so powerful when you
exercise these different muscles people
stop imagining that you're always gonna
have that same reaction you surprised
people because you have a bag of tricks
what is the end goal for here though so
like it's almost like like you have a
destiny or something and you kind of
like that if we want to look at the
hero's journey or something we're like
you you have this destiny or whatever in
you you're like plagued by these
thoughts and these dreams and I
should've did this or I need to do this
next or whatever but what's going on
with that inward dialogue are we dealing
with are we dealing with the divine or
we're dealing with our own
song-and-dance the trash from today is
there a course that we want to be on or
that we're supposed to be on that would
the dreams are trying to push us back on
that path and
never an accident Derek because I've
been doing this for 45 years and I
promise you the unconscious mind is so
sophisticated it's not an accident and
it's definitely not random that he chose
that particular person to be at the top
of the ladder that's not random he
didn't see that guy for over 20 years
and so I call it your higher self some
people call it God but I can assure you
that your unconscious mind never lies to
you never it never lies to you and it
always delivers to you exactly what you
can handle I love that you said what's
the endgame I love that question because
I'll tell you what the endgame is in the
second my books are called have a great
dream by the way and my slightest have a
great dream calm and in the second half
a group have a great dream book I I say
I call it I don't even golf but I call
it playing a different game on the back
nine because for the first 40 years I
lived my life according to my parents
perception of Who I am
and what's the right behavior in the
world and in the sand playing a
different game on the back nine that's
me taking back all these parts of myself
that I'm not as comfortable with and
what is the end game the end game is
called maturity Carl Jung would have
called it individuation Freud called it
maturation because little by little you
want to be living your life as to who
you think you are who does your higher
self think you are and your unconscious
is delivering the message it's
unbelievable and I only want to do is
you more and more examples all that your
unconscious is doing is presenting you
with all of this potential every night
when you go to sleep so the a lot of
times the first half of our life were
like I think we're living by default I
kind of coined that that's what I call a
default we're just a product
the environment parents thoughts
whatever schooling I just walked into a
job interview and now I'm been here ten
years or whatever we're like on default
and then we kind of like try to take the
power back in in the dream state we're
like trying to right the wrongs of the
first half of our life like we're
talking about and then once we do that
then we're trying to right the wrongs in
the last week or the last day there's a
there's there's terminology in the Bible
they call it like the sanctification
process like we're trying to write all
these wrongs to become this new person
or the person that we desire for
ourselves and the higher self knows that
I agree with that terms watching us like
okay you're supposed to do this this is
what you're saying here to do almost
like a Avatar state where it's like okay
I know what you're supposed to do I know
the answers and I know how everything
turns out and we can connect with that
like I said some people call it God we
look at the higher self that may be
seated with the gods that's not an idea
but is that kind of what it is like
we're trying we're trying to get to
you've got a perfection of the dream
that is for us right absolutely you've
got the idea I just want to give you a
couple of examples because then you'll
get more and more familiar with it and
here I'm gonna use an action point of
entry because for the first dream I told
you it was more of a symbols about the
latter and about the roommates the
selfish roommate and this time I'm
talking more about an action point of
entry and this happens also in the
second book is called the picnic dream
and here's a woman who's dreaming that
she's at a picnic and when I asked her
what is the definition of a picnic if I
was a little girl and I don't know what
a picnic is how would you describe it
and I'm writing like a maniac while a
dreamer is talking because I don't want
my definition of a picnic or your
definition of a picnic I want to hear
what her associations are and that's why
you can't look it up in a book yeah
that's good that's gay I was looking at
a book here earlier I've used books in
the past to kind of give you ideas that
what this might represent and I know
that there's like two fold
on a lot of things they could not like
you know if it's a snake it could mean
gossip it can be mean slander it can
mean someone telling a tale it can mean
so many things and I was looking at a
book earlier that I was thinking about
taking a course on with my my group but
um they only looked at the negative
stuff like all of this stuff was only
negative when like the snake also
represents wisdom and knowledge and you
know and and and be a smart right and so
you have to figure out what it means for
that person just because doctors right
that's right and not you're so smart and
not only that what it means for that
person but how does it relate to
something this week that's going on like
I know a woman using a play on words and
puns point-of-entry because we use puns
and play on words constantly in our
waking life and also in our dreams and
she said there were snakes all over the
floor I couldn't put my foot down and I
said why who you're having trouble
putting your foot down with and it
turned out to be a story about her
husband this week though you want to
said mat was her using a pun or if you
say I was so embarrassed I thought I was
gonna die
if you talk like that the language that
you use then you might go to sleep
tonight and dream that you're dying and
it's not that you're dying is that
you're processing some situation that
happened yesterday in which you were
very embarrassed but I'm just gonna tell
you this woman's Association about a
picnic she said picnic is when you eat
outside of the house on a blimp she says
that there's a few ants around but
they're not really spoiling the picnic
and suddenly there's an escalation of
feelings which promotes for me a
feelings point of entry she wakes up
while there the small little ants have
changed instead into a horde of ants
that are everywhere ruining the picnic
and when the dreamer wakes up she wakes
up as she's trying to get the horde of
ants off her with her hands
this is the way she's getting rid of a
horde of ants pushing them away with her
hands and so before I tell you what the
dream was about I would ask you Derek do
you think that that's an effective
appropriate way for the dreamer to get
rid of a horde events can you get rid of
a horde events by pushing them away with
your hands not gonna solve the problem
that way though before we even know
what's the story behind the dream and
anything before we know the dream or
anything we already know that the dream
is showing us a reflection about and
responds to whatever the situation it's
not a competent response it isn't
because you cannot get rid of a horde of
ants with your hands and so I so we
already know that looking at the action
or the plot the action in the dream and
so the dream was about the fact that she
was having an affair she's getting her
sustenance outside of the house on a
blankets there you see the metaphor
happen and it's about the fact that
she's having an affair and the small
ants at the beginning that are not
ruining the enjoyment of the picnic are
his kids her kids her husband his wife
and the reason there's an escalation
that happens is because he was
transferred an hour and a half away from
home and so now if she wants to continue
the affair she has to drive an hour and
a half to get to where he now lives then
she has to spend probably another hour
and a half or two hours to be with him
and now she's got a drive an hour and a
half back to where she lives and get
there in time to pick up the children at
school so that's the escalation why
there's now a horde of ants that's out
of her control the situation has gotten
out of her control and what using what
Carl Jung called active imagination is
when you change the pictures even though
you're in waking life you're not inside
the dream doesn't matter because as
soon as you change the picture who are
in essence giving the dreamer another
idea it's what you said when you look up
in a book you get ideas and then you see
if you connect to them or not and what I
said is maybe you should get out the
raid because raid would get rid of a
horde events and so I'm making I'm
brainstorming literally that's what
brainstorming looks like when you're
doing real dream analysis respecting the
dreamer so about two days later I got a
phone call from her and she said to me I
got out the raid and I ended the affair
awesome it is man you talk about
brainstorming right using your intuition
so if you were I'm in so many places we
can go I got some requests for you but
so if you're having these dreams right
and in your brainstorming and in
somebody's listening to this who wants
to get into this field they want to help
people with with their dream you're
talking about brainstorming we talked
about using your intuition like you hear
these things in like intuitively you
already kind of know what those symbols
represent for the people so there's that
almost like a spiritual aspect to the
side of it is there more is it more
spiritual intuitive by tapping into the
meanings that way because you're also
mentioning a lot of psychology you're
mentioning of Freud Jung
so they go together the psychology in
the spirituality does it go together or
are we just trying to find spiritual
reasons to explain the psychology or
they do kind of help I'll answer your
question like this if I dream about my
dad my father like if I have to go away
on a business trip to speak which
happens all the time and I have four by
the way I'm 66 I have four lovely
daughters one of whom unfortunately
passed away a few years ago my eldest
daughter but
now what was I saying why did I go there
don't you hate when that happens
psychology in spirituality is gonna say
that my father when I have to go away
from the kids and the family that's what
I wanted to say and my sweet husband
when I have to get on a plane and go
away from my maternal side my who I may
dream about my mother because she
represents my maternal side when I dream
about my dad he represents them business
male side of my personality so I might
dream about him when I need to access
that part of myself because that's who
gets on the plane to go away from the
family on a business trip and it helps
encourage me to tap into my business
side but how do you and I know that my
dad is also not visiting me from the
other side and you will never convince
me that he isn't also simultaneously I
mean we are very sophisticated so what I
am doing is I personally in business I
am looking at dreams from a purely
psychological perspective I am using
Freud Jung addler and pearls those are
the four main fathers of psychology that
I am using but I so happen to be a
spiritual person and you you know many
times I bet you that it's also my father
visiting me because we are multitasking
I'm doing the spiritual thing at the
same time I'm doing the problem-solving
thing it's almost like III just like the
way it's like almost the science of it
and then the spirituality they kind of
they go hand in hand and they kind of
prove each other whether we want to say
you know God is opening my ear and
speaking to me God opening your ear
speaking to you is the site that you the
use of the psychology about your dream
and how our minds our brains our body is
formed the scripture says that we're
fearfully in wonderfully made every
single part about us so the whole even
the allegory and
symbolism in God opening my ear is how
my brains working to filter out you know
the problems that I've made for myself
in relationships and it happens to me
you know just like even I like how you
say even from you know that week or that
or the day before now what about the
childhood stuff does that come up too or
you are you we specifically and I'll
start by saying that all learning is
good to me all learning is good even if
so if you want to be surfaced like my
husband and he any so QT guy but he
doesn't want to go deep he wants to know
if he was flying on a cow last night
before he goes to work he wants to talk
to me about why the heck he was flying
on a cow he doesn't want to take it
further and see how that relates to his
early childhood relationship with his
mother yeah okay he doesn't want to do
that yeah but I'm gonna give you an
example I was brought up in a home and
this is a deeper example I was brought
up in a home by a European dad he was
from Romania and my mother well she was
born in Montreal which is where I'm from
her parents were European so in my mind
it's like I was brought up by European
parents period and I could not look at
my father who was a big sweetheart but
he had a big fat temper and I couldn't
look at him when I was six or seven and
he was yelling at me and say to him
excuse me I don't really like how you're
talking to me right now because that
would have been considered disrespectful
in the house I grew up in and I probably
would have landed up in my bedroom and
so I learned to become under invested in
speaking up and over invested in
shutting up and so me not speaking up
when somebody is insulting me or hurting
me I'm a my knee-jerk reaction so when I
was forty that was the time I was
studying dream analysis at the Alfred
Adler Institute with dr. Leo gold from
New York City and when I was four
is also the year my dad passed away and
I was also finding my voice that year
and it makes sense in a spiritual or
psychological way that the same year
that he passed away was the same year I
was exercising my voice and so one night
I had a big fight with an me well it was
Andy's big fight really not mine and he
liked my father very sweet kind-hearted
man who has a big fat stupid temper and
he opened up a big mouth to me and I
stood there not saying a word and when I
went to sleep I dreamt about an aunt of
mine who had already been dead for like
15 years but using the symbols I asked
myself what are the first two or three
things that come to my mind about that
woman and I could tell you the first
thing that came to my mind is what a big
mouth she had she was probably the most
assertive person I ever met in my life
and so the dream is creating a polarity
because in waking life the guy is
yelling at me and I'm saying absolutely
nothing to speak up for myself and which
is related to my childhood and what it
and I dream about the most assertive
person that I that's in my personal data
base like that's who I associate the
biggest myth because and that is 40
that's 26 years ago I said to Andy Andy
I it really hurt my feelings how you
raised your voice at me last night it
makes me think like I'm six or seven I'm
with my dad again and I really wish you
would do that anymore so that was the
first time that I did that because was
my response shaking in my boots like on
seven and he's my father is that
response appropriate to the current
situation no he was my equal and he is
still my equal and I don't have to stand
there and take it so now I've been
exercising that muscle for 26 years yeah
I could tell you that maybe about 15 20
years ago and he stopped yelling at me
he doesn't even raise his voice to me
ever
said something about that right he
understands that there's not this little
girl there anymore who was there when we
first got married what is it about
people like that and we deal with these
people all throughout life who with
whether this is a spiritual side and to
decide but a lot of times I feel like
people can sense that in you when they
meet you okay this guy is timid he's not
gonna say nothing if I take this from
his I take as much money I you know I'll
pay the NIC a paste-like even on the job
I'm gonna pay everybody else more than
him because he don't care he's just
grateful to be here like they they kind
of know you without even saying you
haven't said anything you don't even
know him but they can pick something
what is that and that is the reason you
I just can't I love when I talk to
somebody smart I'm sorry to say that but
it's just so true it's just I energizes
me to speak to somebody who's getting it
and you have you have landed right there
Derek exactly why I do dream analysis
because you build up your bag of I call
it a bag of tricks but really it's a bag
of responses because how boring would
life be if you're the same at 66 that
you were a 12 and we know people like
that and so what the dreams do is they
give you an opportunity from your higher
self from God from your better self they
give you they give it back to you all
the potential that allows you not to
respond necessarily immediately to
what's going on in your life it gives
you a chance to take it back and think
for a minute because I want to add by
the way your knee jerk response never
goes away so if somebody's very rude to
me my initial knee-jerk reaction is
still gonna be the same I'm still gonna
shut up now then I'm gonna get to think
about it if it's my bank manager then
maybe my knee-jerk reaction is is
appropriate but if it's Andy or one of
my kids I am NOT gonna stand
and and take it without speaking up for
myself and that's why you want to do
dream analysis right there that's why
you want to do it yeah um I'm like do we
need to change it though or or do we
just need to understand how you know
know thyself like know how you work know
how you operate know what type of
situations you work best in maybe try to
stay in those situations or do or should
we try to change it like I'm definitely
more passive I put up with a lot of
stuff until it blows up you know what
I'm saying some I'll hold my tongue a
lot unless it's something I'm really
passionate about and even then I'll
study learning and then just unload
about it like that good or is that a
character flaw or should I change it or
learn how to best use that to fit me in
my life right and you want to start
exercising that part of yourself that's
not speaking up often enough because
what you're talking about it reminds me
of when you have to well sorry to say it
but if you have to pee you can hold it
in hold it in hold it in yeah a certain
point you have to pee so hard you start
hurting and it's not even healthy to
hold it in for too long you can actually
hurt yourself and so that's what
actually that's what a nightmare is a
nightmare is when you've been holding in
your feelings holding them in holding
the man and then all of a sudden you get
this huge nightmare and two things
happen one is that physiologically
speaking we are self-regulating
organisms and so whatever it is that
you're under-reacting to in your waking
life the dream is gonna overreact make
you deal with it the overreaction is the
nightmare or the recurring or a
recurring dream you know the kind of
recurring dream where you say I had that
dream ten times in the last two weeks
not not a recurring dream that you have
over a lifetime and you have it like
short and so the the object for what
you're proposing about being the kind of
person who builds things up and then you
finally let it out your goal Oriol
should say if if I was you
and if that was my my situation I would
want to be practicing coming out more
often small smaller more often opposite
yes yeah because it's no balance right
it's the balance right
yeah and holding it in can get you a
heart attack or it can get you a host of
other things that happen to us
physically because our nerves are frayed
Wow I'm with you on it that's just
finding that perfect balance and like
that's what it is so I can play to my
strengths but the key is to find balance
to do both to kind of if that's if
that's happening or you know kind of
cater to the other side so that I'm more
balanced and I'm not just you know
lopsided all the time and I'm always
holding and I just let anything fly
because I don't want to offend people
and I don't speak my truth because I
don't want to offend this person you
know what I'm saying and yes the find
balance with that and find a little bit
of balance it's like since you're
sharing about yourself I'll tell you
also about me which comes from no fault
no fault that and I write about this in
the first book that I had two I have two
sisters who are so significantly older
than me I mean like one of them got
married when I was four and the other
one got married when I was six so I
often as a child felt not included
excluded because those two girls they
were friends the two sisters and what
are they gonna do with like a
four-year-old sister six-year-old sister
I'm not gonna be included in who they're
dating or what's going on in their life
like that though it's not a matter of
fault but because I'm a person who has a
button about being excluded I have for a
long time following Freud's theory of
repetition compulsion because we don't
like change as humans and we get
attracted to people who are gonna leave
us out like if you're a person who has
inclusion issues
I will automatically even though it's
not good for me be suddenly a
tracted two people who aren't gonna be
the one to call me and invite me out
it's more gonna be me as the initiator
and more them who's going to be the
receiver because we resist change so
much as humans that we actually veer
towards people that are going to give us
an opportunity to repeat the stuff that
makes us feel bad and so because I'm
aware of that
like you said you want to put yourself
in suit life situations where you can
more use your strengths so when I catch
towards the beginning of a relationship
that I have attracted myself to somebody
who's not gonna make me feel welcome and
included what I do now is I don't get
mad at myself oh my goodness I greet
that part of Lanie I greet her with a
smile and love because she's part of me
that little girl who got left out by the
sisters it wasn't cuz they want it to be
mean to me and so now I have to be kind
to myself and then I say is the I don't
want to try and change the other person
is that you can not change somebody else
forget it
you can not change somebody else but the
only power you have is over yourself to
change yourself so I can say to myself
is this who I want to hang around with
is this who I want for myself and the
answer's no Derek I don't want to
attract people in my life that make me
feel left out I don't want to do that
anymore so once you make that decision
it's so spiritual and miraculous how
suddenly the right kind of people start
appearing in your life as soon as you
feel you deserve something better Wow so
right it's so true story of my life
right now - it's about breaking the
negative patterns right we see these
patterns going over all these
preconceived notions that we have of
judgments and things like that and we've
accepted and then we kind of learn with
that because I even if I'm talking about
being passive and holding stuff in of
how to learn how to make that my
strengths like because I know like I
learned how to use it and kind of work
it into my day-to-day and be successful
with holding my voice at times because
sometimes you kind of need to so there's
times where being passive like that
helps and I guess I've tried to put
myself in more situations where I'm
always passive hey whatever it is versus
the other side but really what seeing
those patterns like that and like you
said going back your body your mind God
wants you to find balance in all things
and kind of break those habits or
patterns whether it's being that or what
would you say just to finish that yeah
if that was my dream I'll say it because
that's how you say it if it was my dream
and I was you that's what I'd be looking
at I'd be looking at trying to get
myself into situations where I cannot be
passive yeah I'd be looking for
situations where I'm exercising my voice
because then you have you put it in your
bag of tricks
and when life happens real life happens
I need to assert yourself if you'd have
that muscle ready for you yeah you got
to stand for something or you fall for
anything right that's it like at the end
of the day it's it's it's it's so that
you're you're making those good
decisions and you know maybe this is
sensitive because this can be like
detrimental but drug addiction you know
people like there's people who'd is just
gonna stay away from it nope can't be
around it somebody comes in they were
once addicted marijuana or alcohol
somebody brings it in they run they
leave right that used to be me I was a
teenager I got in over my head on own
drugs and things like that I didn't want
to be around it couldn't smell it
brought up bad memories took me back to
that place but there comes a time where
like you know what I don't care what
you're doing I'm at peace in every
situation
just because you bring that doesn't mean
that I have to do it or like stoop down
to your level because there's those
people who come into your life and they
have that that polar energy they you
know I'm saying they bring something to
the table and whether it's peer pressure
or I want to
that thing we're talking about and I got
seven people who want to fit in and want
to be with this person and so they all
kind of flock to that but it's really
knowing yourself and not being you know
I've people who have pass up
opportunities and even me flying I've
talked about this I don't I was um
Kosta phobic as a kid my brother used to
lock me in chess and put me in drawers
like where your sock drawer
he put me in the sock drawer and closed
it and we're just laying in there and
can't get out and I can't be in small
vehicles I can't I don't want scared to
death to fly uh it's in it's coming over
like I've passed up opportunities to go
minister and to go do music and things
and speaking engagements because they
wanted to fly me out and it's right
messing with me so to be able to know
myself and say look I can see that this
is a character flaw it's now the
psychological thing is now messing with
me in my reality you know yeah it's over
that somehow through the dreams right
through making decisions right yeah and
it also has to do with how you see how
you perceive yourself it's your your
your whole perception of yourself and
how do we get over to the other side and
it's like the first time it reminds me
of cuz I used to be a chain-smoker
and so it reminds me of the first day
that I went without a cigarette that was
the first brick on the other side of the
wall about my identity because my
identity was a smoker and I knew myself
that way from the time I was 16 years
old and so now to see myself as a
nonsmoker or you seeing yourself as a
person who's afraid to be in a confined
space the first time you get on a plane
just for a short ride right like even a
one-hour flight somewhere you know the
first time you do that you've put one
brick on the other side of the wall of
your identity and the second time you do
it you've got another brick and what do
you discover you discover that like for
me when I quit smoking it was like wow
I'm like
still breathing I'm still here I'm still
alive yeah and I'm still Laney yeah I
still have my identity and I actually
went 24 hours without a cigarette and
then you go you know 48 hours and then
so each time you get on a plane you're
you've given yourself you've exercised
that muscle and the more you exercise
the muscle the more it becomes a part of
your new identity because you're kind of
reshape the way your brain works the way
that you react and respond to trauma
we're like victims by default right I'm
a victim before that happened to me so I
have to find this way to retrain my
brain and really the only way is to kind
of go with Dan for one but to actually
step out and do it in small doses right
very very behavioural so I'm very
psychological well behavioral ISM is
also psychology but I just mean I look
at deeper psychology when it comes to
the part about uncovering why you had
that dream last night decoding it I'm
using there I'm using the father's of
psychology but as for the solutions to
the issue I become very behavioural
because I I do believe in working out in
the gym and X that concept of exercising
those muscles and getting more
comfortable with more responses to life
situations and you want to you want to
have that not only because of how people
look at you or what they expect from you
because of what you've shown them about
yourself it's not only the surprise
element of having a different response
than what people expect it's also that I
mean I'm a my first husband passed away
when he was 38 Andy and I are children
like my kids there's a 20-year spread
between my kids they go from 45 all the
way down to 25 and so we have a blended
family because our youngest daughter was
is Andy and my child so I have that
experience I had cancer so I had that
experience so there's so many different
experiences that life throws you and you
want to equip yourself with a host of
different responses and reactions to
life situations you don't want to just
have the same like you know an Andy had
cancer also we had cancer together very
competitive couple what do you mean you
have colon cancer like seven weeks later
I was diagnosed with colon too bad for
you I'm yeah you know it's like yeah
weird but I just mean that when he was
sick I needed to be the style of
personality that knew how to open up my
mouth with doctors in the hospital and
get what I wanted to get from my husband
yes so that wouldn't have been good for
me to be that silent person who holds
everything in your even know like the
information I just told me this and
that's how I like it would be a passive
it's totally playing off in my
relationship with my wife she's gonna
get to the bottom of it find it out I'm
just like yeah they just said you know
this you ask questions not really this
is what they said you know take I just
take what they said that's what he told
me and kind of you know right but if God
forbid she would get sick you would need
to play the role yeah she plays yeah
because when you're the one that sick
you typically you you can't really be
the person who's sick can't always be
dependent on because they're dealing
with the psychology of what the heck is
happening to them and you need somebody
who's gonna know not be afraid to ask
the questions and assert themselves when
you're BF that's good let me ask you
this so we're talking about dreams right
we're talking about the symbols the
signs about the day before the week
before maybe childhood if that's the
case sometimes is this every dream is
every every dream so the weird dreams of
everything because like you kind of wake
up you like now that was just that was
just cheese that was the cheese I before
I went to bed or the pizza but the dream
that I had the night before that was
definitely God speaking to me but it you
think it's every dream
we have is all telling that in Word
dialogue that story is coming out
because we're not dealing with it right
we're kind of suppressing it so it comes
out right exactly and it is about the
first level this week and when you go
deeper into the dream and you're wanting
to know about your response to today's
situation where does that come from and
how can I change it that's when you
would go back into the that's when you
would look back into the past like a
woman who's being chased by a rhinoceros
that's the whole dream she was actually
a podcaster like yourself and she told
me a dream just a couple of weeks ago
that she's being chased by a rhinoceros
and it's this pressure this unbelievable
pressure that she puts on herself and so
she needs and she's connected to the
person who's the victim
running away where she needs two more
connect to the rhinoceros part of
herself the powerful part of herself
that instead of being chased the part of
herself that knows how to take on the
heavy and run with it yeah run well yeah
that's good too so what about so we say
in every dream right what about the
people cuz I hear this a lot I don't
drink
I just don't dream do you don't dream
when you don't remember your dreams or
theirs you think everybody kind of has
to deal with that every night nobody's
exempt
no because dreaming is just thinking
that's all dreaming is I'm taking the
whole fantasy and mystery away
imagination but you're dreaming in a
language and the language is the
language of metaphor and that's what I
teach my people how to understand what
our the rhinoceros is for you or the
woman who's an unbelievable
procrastinator and she's dreaming that
she's sitting in a chair and the chair
starts on fire and so it's literally
pushing her out of the seat because
she's procrastinating and she needs a I
was gonna say a freaking fire it's like
something to literally get her up and
out of
up and out of the chair and so yes at
the first level the dream is the
discussion that you're you're having
with yourself okay so if you want to
remember your a dream I'll tell you the
one thing that's the most important is
the intention intention is everything
if you leave pen and paper beside the
bed and you decide that you want to have
a dream don't judge it and take the
judgments away and you don't need to
have a story that has a beginning a
middle and an end and we know that by
the fire and the woman's seat to get her
to stop procrastinating or the woman
being chased by a rhinoceros or the guy
climbing up the ladder you don't need a
big long dream it's gonna tell you what
you need to know and so that's one way
to do it and don't get off the bed reach
for the pen the minute you open your
eyes and start writing or another thing
you can do which is amazing is sit in
the chair and take your watch off and
look at the hands
look at the face of the watch and now
close your eyes and imagine the watch in
your mind's eye or you can then look
around the room and look at all the
paintings and furniture and the phone
and everything around you in the room
and now close your eyes and walk around
the room in your mind's eye and see how
you do so this business of opening your
eyes closing your eyes opening closing
that's the experience of waking up from
a dream sometimes I'll say to myself
where was I just now where was I and
sometimes that helps me get back into
the dreams yeah sometimes you want to
give back like sometimes you're lucky
enough to go right back in or then some
well it's bad when that's a nightmare
though right you like these people are
chasing you and you wake up like thank
God I woke up shake it off go back to
sleep and they're still chasing you like
that's crazy right doesn't happen to me
but it proves that you're that the
Dreaming is just thinking because it's
like you picked it
where you left off and the reason why a
dreamer knows when on they're having a
discussion with me the reason why a
dreamer knows that they've hit on the
truth is because they get this what some
people call it an AHA because you inside
you know that you've you've caught your
dream and the reason why you know is
because you were just discussing it with
yourself when you were sleeping that's
why you know cuz it's you were just
there talking to yourself about it I
have so many firing off and I'm
resonating with this so you let me know
when you need to go because I got a I
got a handful oh I got a handful more
questions here for you if you're good so
I come out of so many places I want to
go with these questions let's go here
dealing with that those symbolisms right
and what it means to us that's how these
stories are made the lion to which in a
wardrobe like Lord of the Rings maybe
every movie every story the hero's
journey that comes out it has to come
from from somewhere first these people
represent things in people's lives or
whatever the case is right so like
Taylor James Taylor says that when he's
having trouble with lyrics to a song he
just likes to pop off for an afternoon
nap because he's hoping that something's
gonna come to him which it did I mean
fire and rain is from a dream and so
Paul McCartney also mother Mary comes to
me yes words of wisdom let it be that
came to him in a dream a dream or LS the
air but a same thing almost right my
goodness I'm kind of getting overwhelmed
with these questions here cuz I'm just
trying to get ahead of myself but with
wit there's like a world within a world
like these people you know the monsters
the weird people that show up your your
your neighbor from 20 years ago like
that's really not your neighbor
you know I'm saying like that's that
neighbor represents the fun you had when
you was a child or you need to get back
to that he's like hey man let's go play
you're like oh I gotta get to work by
the way just like you said that that
you're dreaming about someone who's from
your past your childhood when you were
and you associate that person with
having a good time and you've been
working way too hard that you're
connected to that I call it a database
by the way because every single memory
an association that you have ever had
since you're born is there in your
filing cabinet if you're over 50 I call
it a filing cabinet and if you're under
I call it a database and what happens is
when you go to sleep tonight you're
unconscious the database it's going to
open up and all and all the associations
that you have that help you say to
yourself something that's about this
week something that you're trying to
problem-solve all those people will show
up like in your database by the way you
I heard you say that you're married hmm
so in your database every single woman
or girl that you ever dated in your
whole life they are all in the same
filing cabinet they're in the same file
with your wife and when something
happens with your wife this week you are
going to choose one of those girls but
you're not it's not random you're gonna
choose somebody who made you feel the
same way that your wife is making you
feel this week that could show up as a
stranger right sexual intercourse with
strangers and some people don't so a but
but but but even that could represent
your wife right maybe you represent a
lot of things definitely like what you
know like I like to say I here's a woman
aiming that she had unbelievable sex
great was the metaphor for the fact that
she doesn't like boating or boats at all
and her husband went out and bought a
boat and she had just spent the weekend
on the boat and got the biggest surprise
because she
loved it so there she was doing
something that she never imagined
herself doing in a million years and yet
she's having like a great time so she
used sex to say that to herself
sometimes people come to me with a
sexual sexual dream and it's because
they haven't had sex in so long that
they actually forget what it feels like
and for me it's like take that feeling
and run with it
that's know you were horny and you
forgot what it feels like to be horny so
you want to take that feeling of the
dream and run with it take care of
yourself master yourself um we spoke a
little bit of a while ago kind of about
meditation do you think that meditation
is like a way that we can induce the
dream state or engine induced a trance
state and I like to go back to the Bible
in scriptures like it speaks a lot about
the visions in the trance state and
inducing trance States and receiving
visions or whatever about about yourself
or about decisions that you need to make
so you think meditation is like a good
practice and that's kind of we're doing
the same thing in meditation that we do
when we dream we are we are doing the
same thing it's the same it's because
you don't although I'm just thinking
that I guess I still feel like I have
some control I could sort of step into
meditation where you can't really unless
you become lucid you can't really step
into the dream yeah but I don't think
that the images and ideas that come to
us I do not think they're random I think
I'm always trying to push like the
thoughts of the life I'm going into
meditation I'm trying to go deep and I
have to push out you know these thoughts
that come through and they are things
that we need to do in a waking state I
start thinking about the dishes or
thinking about the laundry and the I and
I have to kind of get past that to go
deep like those are those are still
things that we need to do to find
balance you gotta so I like to kind of I
like to kind of like get all that stuff
out the way let me go ahead and do this
if you can sometimes you can get all
that stuff out the way so when it's time
to go in it's a lot easier and the
things that are coming
or is like the next level like it's
almost like the same difficult or
they're trying to be a better person we
deal with the little bitty stuff so that
we can get down to the meat and potatoes
childhood wounds and things like that
there's a lot of people who help deal
with childhood trauma but once we deal
with that then what we can go deeper and
deeper to unlock and unfold the
mysteries of our destiny and things as
well right absolutely absolutely
it's beautiful there's a couple people
wanting to know about certain types of
Dreams
but but before I go into that and I mean
let me just tell you about this we're
not when I was a kid I was over in
fatted with horror movies still AM I had
to kind of get over it kind of come back
to it a little bit just to like it but I
was like I watched so many horror movies
that when I turn the lights out like
dreaming was scary and I said no not the
dreams for the most part but getting
turning all the lights out and going to
bed and that it was just creepy is there
something gonna come in my room
something under the bed something in the
closet and then a lot of times I would
go to sleep and I would meet those
figures that I watched on the movies and
they would plagued me throughout my
childhood I got so used to dealing with
these monsters and Freddy and Jason and
stuff and gremlins they would chase me
in my dreams and so maybe this is a
two-part thing for you let's let's a lot
of times it would chase me and I'd run
in slow motion a lot of people they're
running fast as they can but they're not
going anywhere let's let's look at that
and then let's look at the fact that I
got so used to doing this that I knew
that I was in a dream and I was lucid as
a kid and I would say okay I need to
kill myself because if I don't Jason's
gonna get me they're gonna chop me up or
torture me I'm have to look at him so I
got to the point where I would run and
dive headfirst into a rock and I wake
myself up out the dream I'd see an ocean
or lake and I dive to the bottom of the
lake and tried to wake drown myself so
that I would wake up and make these
Jason and these guys would try to pull
me out the water's walk they would try
to prevent me from killing myself so I
didn't have to face the trauma and I'm
just right no I'm explaining it as
what it means in my life it's all
revelation as I'm saying it so it's
crazy who are you cuz I've been running
run running from trauma running from the
scary things in my my childhood Wow yes
and you were dealing with it and also
you were giving yourself a rehearsal
about getting away from it or how to
deal with it you give yourself a
rehearsal because you know that
expression been there done that
yeah that's what you were doing you're
giving it yourself in the dreams and
then you when it happens in waking life
you've been already doing that it's like
been there done that you remind me of
when I was oh then oh no I'm gonna I'm
reminded of something better about a
woman who's having rejection dreams
rejection rejection and it's just like
overtaking her and really it's because
in an intuitive way she knows that her
boyfriend is ending that relationship
she knows it's coming to an end and so
what is she doing she's giving herself
these horrible dreams even though she
hasn't acknowledged it in her conscious
or unconscious or higher self or
intuition or whatever you want to call
it or God she knows something's about to
happen and she is completely blind to it
during the day but then the event
actually happens and and she's been
practicing being rejected like three
months already and so it's like been
there done that she's actually exercised
that that she's been rehearsing and so
she's copes better you desensitize
that's the word I want you desensitize
yourself in the dreams so when the life
situation happens that you were probably
anticipating you are actually better
equipped to handle it yeah that's good
and it gives you an empathy I've been
here before I feel for people I feel for
people who were dealing with trauma like
I genuinely do or the things I've come
out of the things I've dealt with I have
a genuine
empathy to help them get through their
stuff right right let me ask you this
about the dream too because like when
I'm having those dreams about monsters
and it just plagued me literally it was
scary my my whole childhood it was a big
part of it but now that I'm older and
I've dealt with the things I've been
running from I've dealt with my fears
fear of dying fear of whatever the case
is that those those traumas represent
once you deal with them
the nightmares stopped yeah I can still
I can still enjoy a good horror movie a
good thriller and not have to fight them
when I go to sleep cuz I've dealt with
that trauma
let me so there's that too if you want
and I get the answers respond to it in
the dream state and in the waking state
it's the same way but what about
fighting those monsters I've heard this
David Walker talks about this a lot and
I've done it we have a reoccurring
nightmare and you're running from the
shadow being the monster whatever it is
and instead of running and then waking
up you stop and you face it in the dream
state and then something happens in
reality what's that about right and that
is about that is exactly an example of
the rehearsal that I'm talking about
that the dreams give you a safe place to
rehearse Kurwenal dreaming about my aunt
who has such a big mouth and I don't
didn't have at that time in my life I
didn't have my voice her appearance is
the beginning of the rehearsal and then
I'll dream about somebody else or maybe
I'd have a dream that and it would have
to be a dream that's really bad because
like maybe I dream that I'm watching
somebody get raped as I would choose a
situation under which circumstance I
would not stay quiet and sometime then
you wake up screaming and it's part of
the rehearsal about speaking up a little
bit but you'll create a scenario in the
dream yeah that forces you to scream
because it's giving you that it's giving
you there were her
or or you have those dreams all these
questions are piggybacking because I'm
and I'm getting away from other question
but you have a dream the way that's
happening and you can't scream you open
your mouth and there's no voice that's
excellent and when I hear a dream like
that when you use that point of entry
that there's no sound coming out that's
the point of entry you go for then I
would ask the dreamer what do you think
is going on in your life this week what
situation is happening where either you
are not speaking up about something so
you feel like you have no voice or is it
that you are speaking and you're really
not feeling a heard hmm feeling like
there's no sound coming out it may as
well be no sound because nobody's
listening to me or the woman who's
dreaming that she can't hear she loses
her hearing and she loses her hearing
because there's stuff going on that she
doesn't want to know about he doesn't
want to hear about it so she's turning
her ears off not on top of that so we
have that where you have no voice in
your dream and someone getting back to
some of those questions people having
wanting to know about sleep paralysis
you have no voice in your dream
some people transition out of the dream
maybe it's psychological maybe your body
is still in though it's still your body
is still asleep but your mind is awake
or your eyes are open and you have sleep
paralysis right you wake up you feel
like there's entities or beings in the
room or laying on top of you and you
can't talk you try to speak innate
something's got your throat no Gajic
experience that happens sometimes and if
it's close to the time you're waking up
it it only lasts for a couple of seconds
actually it's like if you know that it's
going away in a couple of seconds so it
doesn't it's not like a reason to panic
about it
I love when I actually love it and and
it is if I am so scared of spiders I
hate them hate them hate them but - but
it's very normal to see a spider when
you wake up and you're having that kind
of hypnagogic experience you know what
do I do because now I know that it's not
staying there I'll lie in bed and look
at it and say it
here in about ten seconds engage it a
little bit see that's the weird thing
because like we understand like if your
body wakes up and it's still asleep you
have sleep paralysis you have I mean
there's so many names for this but the
weird thing in my studies I've had this
happen to me as a kid and it kind of
shaped me to do what I'm doing now but
the weird thing is maybe it's because
it's embodied with the fear and you're
still asleep so there's your fear that
you can't move and you can't speak so
your mind produces an image oh that is
fearful because you wake up and I'll
have like gremlins on my chest or little
beings walk in the room and the the
whole thing that changes this thing that
makes you think something's there is the
fact that there's usually a monster you
know the old hag syndrome a lady or old
witch screaming in your face or in
Gray's watching you is it just because
you wake up and you're in fear so your
minds like first fear object oh you're
scared of you're scared of pets so
there's a black cat you know is that how
it works
yeah it kind of does work like that and
I want I don't want to leave that
question without saying to you that all
those gremlins that are on you that's
the part of yourself that does what
gremlins do and it's coming up on your
chest because it wants to get closer to
you it's like when you dream that you're
sleeping with someone you want to ask
yourself what are the first two or three
things that come to my mind about that
person's personality because it's not
random that that you're in bed with that
person because you want to be
understanding what part of your
personality is getting closer to you and
you want to pick the part of the dream
that's the most uncomfortable the part
you're most afraid of or the part you're
running away from or the part you're
just plain uncomfortable with and you
want to get closer to that personality
trait because that's probably what and
who you need this week
all of its kind of playing together
because there's I mean there would be
people who would say okay well you're
just trying to explain the way that I
was visited by
or I was visited by gremlins or demons
right and so you're trying to tell me
that it's explained away by in my mind
but I guess we have to go back to the
other side it's like why'd one why do
you want to be what's inside of you
wants you to be visited by aliens or
demons and then two if you really were
then why did they choose you why did
they come so it all does still well
however you perceive that you have to
figure out why in it and there's a lot
of character traits as well and I'm
finding this by doing all these
interviews even what people who were
into the healing arts most of them were
into they were abused they didn't have a
mom and dad around there was stability
that they found in spirituality or in
God or in the church right from not
having a sword it represented that
balance like I didn't have a dad I come
to Christ and I've given it to the
church and God becomes my dad it
balances it works right and the way that
you can test out what your theory of
what you're talking about is if you use
what the point of the entry if you use
dreams as the point of entry and you
follow the method that I have if you
follow that method once you've attached
the dream to the current issue because
it will attach itself to a current issue
and once you've done that then you can
look at all these other aspects that
you're suggesting might also be going on
then it suddenly makes sense suddenly it
makes sense why these certain things are
happening like I just was talking to a
woman not long ago who's dreaming that
she's so excited that she hasn't a new
puppy and she has the puppy on a table
in front of her she's in a chair at a
table and she's got the puppy on the
desk
and she's so happy and all of a sudden
the puppy who's everywhere all over the
table all over her and my question to
her was what would be your solution in
waking life
take the story of the dream out into
your waking life and tell me what would
you do in your waking
if that happened she said well the first
thing I would do is get it off the table
that's the first thing I do I would take
the puppy off the table and then I'd
clean it up and clean myself up and that
was about the fact that she landed a
brand new job that she was so excited
about and she couldn't wait to get there
so excited and after she was on the job
for about ten days she found out that
her job her boss is an abusive sob he
was pooing all over her literally right
and that and so what is the dreamers
response what's her solution when I
asked her she said take it off the table
and that's what she did she with the job
so with that something she had that
dream while she was going through that
or was that like a precognitive dream so
it was while she was going through it
yeah it was after he was so abusive and
then that night she had that puppy dream
and it helped her quit the job she quit
the job okay I want to ask you and the
way she found it was by the feelings
what happened recently that you were so
excited about that suddenly turned into
a pile of crap what happened in your
life and as soon as I asked her that she
got it um ask you about precognitive
dreams and prophetic dreams here in a
second but I want to address this one
thing that I kind of touched on we
didn't go back to but running in slow
motion in the dream when there you're
being chased when you need to get out of
there you know you have a dream and
there's a little monster next to you
you're trying to run as fast as you can
you're like walking on the air and the
question to the dreamer is what you want
to ask yourself is what's going on in
your life that you're trying to get away
from that either is the dream there this
is always in the form of a question
it's like jeopardy is the dreamer right
are you having trouble running away from
something is the dream they're telling
you that you should not be running away
that this is the situation where you
better just stay still and the dream is
giving you a rehearsal to staying
still or is it something that you do
want to be running away from and
somebody's got a hold on you and so
you're having difficulty getting away
but that you know maybe you want to turn
that running away into levitation or
flying suddenly lifting yourself off you
know it depends on what's the situation
and that's what I do well that's the
dreamer isn't over her Sulphur staying
still is something you're trying to
avoid or is it that you should be trying
to get away from something and the dream
is there to grab your attention and get
you noticing that you should get that
egg out and away mm-hmm Wow
I know for me I know for me as I'm
running from my fears and running from
trying to run from them and I can't and
need to face them trying to run right I
don't really have those dreams anymore
but as a kid that was a common thing
that's very normal that you would have
those dreams like that as a kid because
older and have more nightmares why do
they have more nightmares they have more
nightmares because you don't have the
control when you're a kid you can't say
okay I don't like what's happening here
I'm leaving I'm going around the block
I'll be back in a couple of hours
because you can't get into the car you
can't leave the house up you're stuck by
your teachers by your parents and that's
why the feelings need to go somewhere
it's what I was talking about before
about me that you you can't hold it in
and so nightmares are very very healthy
that's why I call it all have a great
dream you know have a great dream let's
go ahead and plug the book again because
while there's people listening we'll
plug it at the end as well but go ahead
let people people are asking about your
books again just while they're here so
they're both called have a great dream
the first book is called book one the
overview and I kind of wrote that for
sort of for my 25 year old who said to
me mommy can't you tell people how to do
it and not in 350 pages but like in a
hundred page could you just tell me why
I had that dream and so that's why I
wrote book one the overview cuz it's a
hundred pages that Matt includes
pictures
and you get to find out why you had that
dream last night and the second book is
called have a great dream a deeper
discussion and if you want to talk more
about what you and I are talking about
today then you would want to buy the
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have a couple more questions here for
maybe one or two more questions okay
show coming up great I do too
what's that hurry so these are good
though when it comes to I come out of
Christianity in the Christian Church
right there's just you know and I'm
gonna probably explain this by setting
the question up but there's an over over
zealous infatuation with the end of the
world with Christ coming back just
destroying the wicked cleaning this
thing up you know birthing new life and
so people have these dreams about the
world ending and all of these things and
they try to they try to they think that
they're prophetic like God gave me a
dream that he's coming back to destroy
the world further study usually shows
you that it's not the end of the world
but the end of your world and something
going on within this dream state again
the explanation is why do you want the
world to be destroyed well because the
world is a nasty place because my boss
is an [Â __Â ] you know what I'm saying
why do you want this thing to be
whitewashed and start over
so people have these dreams and that's
the interpretation of it but what about
the literal in the prophetic dreams I
had a literal dream that this has
happened this dream is not symbolic I
mean I get met with this platform I get
messages true sick I had a dream you're
gonna die I had a dream you were this I
had a dream you were that I even me I
understand that I represent different
things to different people I represent
liberation I represent exploration I
represent living your dreams I represent
whatever I mean to that person if
somebody has a real lousy job and they
can't stand being there and they don't
like it's not so much that the job is
lousy
it's that they don't like their work
they hate their work and so there you
are
Derek a guy who's doing work that he
loves and the dreamer dreams that you
died and that's because that dreamer
might be saying that the part of himself
or the part of herself that doesn't feel
they'll ever be able to get away from
their their their job that they don't
like doing a dream that you died because
you represent the part of themself that
could have a job that they'd like to do
the positively you don't want to step in
there and do it they'll dream that
you're dying but all and I'll finish
this show with telling you how I see
synchronicity and yes as I say that and
you already know this about me that I am
looking at dreams from a problem-solving
perspective and so while I'm doing that
I also think that there are other things
going on because we're only using like
10% of our brain or something there's so
much more going on but I think that we
are simultaneously there's things
happening simultaneously and I'm gonna
give you an example this woman in this
is all the way back to 1997 that this
woman came to me and she said she was
dreaming about the talk family the name
of the family is called talk and I think
they spell it T Ock but she dreamt about
them and she knows the talk family she
wasn't even friends with those kids at
camp because she was so much older than
them but when she went to camp there
were two brothers from the talk family
that went to the same camp as she did
and it and she dreamt that the talk
family was in a hotel looking for
shelter and the dream turned out to be
about the fact that that same camp from
so many years ago is the same place
where she met her boyfriend
and so the link because it's so frickin
sophistic got a big sometimes
blow you away when you start to see the
images that you choose and how precise
they are so the the talk family links
her to the boyfriend and she's there
looking for shelter and of course if
you're allowed to say something to
somebody really what you want to say and
they're not gonna reject you and they're
not gonna break off with you then you're
you're you've you're in shelter you've
got you're in a safe place and so she's
looking to be able to talk in a safe
place that's what the dream was about
and it helped her link to the boyfriend
and she went to the boyfriend and talked
to him so she didn't pick some other
family she picked the talk family she
needed to talk and so then about two
weeks later in 1997 the ice storm
happened in upstate New York and also
Montreal like lower Quebec and upstate
New York and we lost power for over a
month and during that period of time
this dreamer had to move out of her
house because it was it was longer than
three weeks that she had no lights and
no electricity and so she went to this
hotel in Montreal this is after the
dream she went to this hotel in Montreal
to try and find a room and she ran into
the talk family who she hadn't seen in
like 20 years so she ran into these
people looking for shelter just like in
the dream so what I like to say is that
because of what I do I say that we are
problem-solving in our dreams and we are
using memories from the past the present
and sometimes from the future in order
to problem-solve something that's
happening today Wow I love it
no little dreams no right they're not
really literal I mean even Freud said
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar hey I
appreciate you coming on I just want to
ask you really quick have you seen the
Netflix new series that just came out
maniac no watch it
like if I if I translate anything to you
watch it we just started watching it but
it's it's about everything that we're
talking about in this conversation Jonah
Hill and I Emma Stone it just came out
on Netflix it'll blow you away it's
about dreams and regression and
symbolism it's a beautiful you will love
it definitely check that out maniac on
Netflix Lainey I appreciate you coming
on I thoroughly enjoyed this this
episode I'm gonna plug your book I'm
gonna plug your website everything will
be in the description so hopefully we'll
send some people your way hopefully some
people are as touched by this episode as
I was thanks again before you turn off
that I did change not the title but the
subtitles of the book and so the best
way to get the book is to go to have a
great dream calm because then I connect
you to the right link on Amazon to get
you to the right place
and if someone's having their own dreams
and these reoccurring things and they
try to get to the bottom of it they
can't obviously you kind of teach the
people to do that for themselves you
could do a private appoint you you can
book a private session I'm actually
speaking in New York City on October
28th I'm doing a full-day workshop at
the open Center for those people that
are listening that live around the New
York area you could come and join me on
Halloween week heck yeah
good stuff Thank You Laney for coming on
I appreciate you thank you dare do it
again
okay all right bye-bye right Laney
dolphin ladies and gentlemen I loved it
I think I was getting deliverance at
revelation the whole time the interview
was going on man oh my goodness I really
enjoyed this one I can feel it I hope
y'all can feel it I really do oh man
answering so many questions and and I'm
China I'm trying to be observant of the
chat and I see people in here and I got
my brother Chris Baris he's all we're
talking about psychology man and you
just see how it mixes with spirituality
and these psychological terms that
explain our spirituality I think both
are needed you know what I'm saying and
I think they go together we're talking
about a dream many people think that
this life is a simulation
and that this literally is a dream
within a dream
so everything that comes into your life
we're like decoding our dreams that we
have in the dream state but in our
waking State maybe we're playing out the
dream that who's having the higher self
our self is having a dream or someone la
bro-bro what's going on what do i do man
okay the next step is this
it's crazy y'all when you when you
really break it down but man I agreed
with everything man it's beautiful and
just like I said it doesn't like some
people some people would get upset
because you feel like the psychology
takes away the spirituality
I think the psychology and the science
is reiterating the same things that
we're saying in a scientific method a
different wording I think about they're
both right again like if you understood
how I'm trying to formulate these
questions like you wake up in the middle
of the night and there's aliens in your
room this is the stress set you have an
angelic encounter you wake up your
guardian angel is there with you in your
room right you're in all your and wonder
whether it's in your dream whether you
had the dream about that
why do you in this life not everybody we
talk about this not everybody sees
guardian angels not everyone sees aliens
not everyone sees fairies but what is in
you that you want to and you draw you
drew that experience to yourself what is
what does that represent to you on a
deeper level the angelic encounter your
guardian angel is it the fact that you
know for many of us like we feel
vulnerable we can't speak up for
ourselves we can't protect ourselves so
we have this angel that appears to
reassure us that we're gonna be okay
because I have warring angels that fight
with me
like what encounter like why did you
need that encounter like everything that
happens in our life it doesn't happen
just for some weird reason biblically
like there was there was encounters like
that in the Bible and I don't think they
had encounters for the hell of it and a
lot of people are just trying to have
encounters for the hell of it no no no
no no no no bad baby don't do that
encounters for the hell of it yeah it
like it's deep it's beautiful mystical
wonder all creativity so much comes out
of those encounters but why did it
happen it did not happen for the hell of
it like we see in the scriptures were
that that story happened and Elijah was
praying with the young man who was
scared to death right there was an army
coming after them they've scared to
death he said look don't be afraid man
there's more forest than our against us
in the gods like nah man we were through
were through his that look let me pray
for you he prayed for the the young man
the eyes of his understanding were open
and he was able to see chariots all
within the mountains Chariots of Fire it
says UFOs starships whatever you
interpret that to be micawber's is what
the the Hebrew breaks it down to but
he's seen them all in a mountain and
then he it reassured him like okay yeah
we got this we got this it's almost like
those those battles where there's like I
know it's happened in like a lot of it
happens in a lot of action movies and
Marvel and stuff where like somebody's
running into battle and everybody looks
at me say uh all the enemies turn and
run and it's just one guy running
running in the battle and he gets his
confidence because everybody turns and
runs but he doesn't know that there's a
big army behind him so you know what I'm
saying and then it turns around and they
just run in the battle with the army and
that person thinks that there that you
know that that whole armies running from
him right it's just this confidence
boost and and having these dreams and
these things happen in these situations
happen for a reason not by the hell of
it not by chance like nothing none of
that happened by chance those yeah they
pay attention to the detail even in the
dream state pay attention to the detail
in the store
in the Bible in the allegory in these
beautifully careful carefully crafted
stories that reveal your deeper inner
essence and the way you're created and
and what they represented who Noah is to
you and who King David is to you and who
is your Goliath is your Goliath your
boss does your boss boss laugh at you
that do people that does your um does
your professor laugh and scoff at your
faith you're a Christian oh we're gonna
change that right we're gonna chill you
a Christian we're gonna change that
that's so Elementary and in this this
professor your boss whoever represents
Goliath to you they're mocking you
laughing at you and it seems like
there's no way that you can overthrow
them or outwit them outsmart this person
so these people represent things within
our lives just like in the Bible the
allegory the stories where did those
stories come from they came from God
okay where do use your dreams come from
where your dreams come from the you know
the trash from the day some people
believe now that all comes from God God
is in all and through all it is all God
your mind
God your heartbeat God your breath God
your situations and circumstances God
get the picture it is our one and it's
beautifully connected intricate every
part is intricate telling the story all
we need it all to coexist we need it all
to function man I'm lost within the
mystery and found within simplicity is
is the deep esoteric breakdown of life
of a basic dream I just dreamed that I
was being chased by dogs on the very
outskirts or esoteric or exoteric and in
esoteric is what do they mean let's go
deeper who are these dogs what kind of
dogs were they German German pitbulls or
whatever or German whatever German
shepherds
what does that represent German Shepherd
well my husband's German Oh
his family's German and they don't want
us to be together Oh Lord Jesus there
you go right and this is how this stuff
plays out or it doesn't it doesn't all
mean one thing that's the whole thing
she was talk about the dream books and I
literally before we even did this
episode I was looking at course material
to go through with the group on Thursday
nights and one was about dream
interpretation I read through it and he
had already had like four pages of
symbolism and what they mean in majority
of it I know that it doesn't mean that
it doesn't mean that to me or even like
if you use an allegory in the Bible like
it doesn't even and this was a Christian
book so I was like yeah I can so trying
to figure out what it means
being chased by a pack of German
Shepherds you know let's just what does
it mean to you the Bible says that the
Lord is my shepherd I shall not want the
Lord is the Lord's love is furious it's
aggressive
he'll chase you down like come on man
what does it mean to you does it mean
everything oh it mean to the individual
to me it could be it mean something else
but to you it represents this every
symbol every sign every dream and then
it plays over into our encounters and
our experiences why we need these
experiences while we want these
experiences why do you want to see
fairies did you lose your own wonder
like to really get to the why if we're
gonna do the inward work and we're
talking about a cinch ascension there
are things that you're carrying on these
certain lower level frequencies that you
can't carry to the place that you're
going you have to deal with it you have
to pass the test in the dream and in the
awakened state and the big thing for me
was like okay I'm passing all these
things in the dream and in my waking
State let me pass these tests in my
dream statement when I'm tempted or
whatever the case is I'm like I'm trying
to pass these tests
maybe it's because I'm you know overly
thinking about that everything is a test
that everything
it's scripted by the grand architect you
know what I'm saying the the one who
created everything everything is created
there are ways to work through and to
manage and to deal with everything that
that we're facing in life so I'm trying
to figure out what it means and so I'm
trying to like I'll pass the test in the
physical let me try to pass these tests
in the dream state whatever it may be
whether it is sexual temptation or
whatever the case is like I'm not trying
to have them I'm not trying to have
those dreams I don't want to have those
dreams like why do they come and she
played she explained a lot of that stuff
really good a lot of it is the stuff
that we're entertaining in what those
symbolisms mean to you and we're talking
about - I discussed this in a lot of
detail is that and the Bible says that
the Spirit of the Prophet is subject to
the Prophet so you're gonna have to have
somebody who really understands the out
man look most of the stuff we were
talking about today I've I've been
getting to the bottom of myself I don't
do a lot of I don't read a lot of books
I don't I need to read Freud and I need
to read a lot of these guys I know some
of their quotes and stuff but I really
want to read this stuff because this was
the first time that have really had a
deep and you guys can tell this was a
genuine conversation man I really was
elated but it's tough coming out because
I've been studying this stuff from a
biblical perspective without commentary
just reading the Bible getting the
understanding from the dream stay in the
Bible that's the biggest dream manual
ever like there's so much from from
Genesis to Revelation the dream state
visions revelation trance state all of
it is all in there
and so this was the first time I really
had got to pick somebody's brain who you
know went to school for this and and
does this so it was so awesome I love
this I love what I do man I just man
it's genuine and it doesn't happen all
the time with every guest you guys know
that like I have some of those guests on
that I had a guest off for 30 minutes on
my guy I want to go longer I want to
find common ground with an eyebrow
I appreciate you we'll see you on the
next one you know and it's over but some
of them I'm like how long can you stay
let's go deeper you know the last one I
did with Tate like most
my older podcasts were two to three
hours back in the day and maybe because
I'm doing so much more and I'm producing
more verses one per week and I have a
lot of other stuff that I'm creating I
don't know why they got like shorter but
it helps when you have somebody that you
resonate with like how you supposed to
have a three-hour conversation where
people that you don't even want to talk
to
personality-wise whatever the case is
but this is one you're probably gonna
have to take notes on and we listen to I
know I'm gonna listen to them I don't
like I said I don't I don't like to
listen to myself back on the podcast but
I like to listen to myself when the
spirit is speaking when the spirits
leading me in the spirit speaking
through me I go back and listen to them
and and I'll get ministered to and
deliverance and revelation from the
things that I'm saying
I got sometimes I tap in and I hit that
vein man and you know that it's the
spirit and I'll go back and listen to
some of those and be like that's good
man like wow and I'm just ministering to
myself so I like to listen to that when
the spirits there so when an episode
like this is definitely moving and
there's a bunt there's a bunch of them
though so that's the good thing right
but some of them are just like you know
it's just an interview whatever the case
is you don't connect as I encouraged her
to go and and I don't want to give it
all away but as I encouraged her to go
and watch the Netflix show maniac that
just came out trust me it's hard to
follow at first it's hard to understand
and I don't want to give too much of it
away but when you're talking about
allegory and you're talking about going
within the dream state to interpret
what's going on or cope with what's
going on in the waking life that's what
that show was about it's phenomenal it's
insane
didn't even know about it I've seen I
got a YouTube ad the other day and
YouTube ads showed the trailer and I was
like what the heck I'm gonna watch that
Jonah Hill oh I don't know how much
weight Jonah Hill lost dude he's he had
to lose 200 pounds man Jonah Hill was
big especially like in a wolf of
wallstreet let me Google this right
quick
how much
wait did Jonah Hill lose Jonah Hill
shows off weight loss
this seems Wow oh my goodness oh this
for that you guys are watching on a on
YouTube I'll just show this here I think
it should be nope that's not it that's
not it
where is this here this okay so there's
a a picture of Jonah Hill and he I think
he's even smaller than this in the show
he's lost even more weight but he's he's
a lot smaller than this actually you
could see his chin man chin line and
everything dude lost a lot of weight and
he's a phenomenal actor he's been in a
lot of major roles but he's in this one
and he's killing it to make sure y'all
watch that if you guys are into some
deep stuff and you know watch that it's
a really really good good show but it's
it's Jonah Hill and Emma Stone the
redhead chick played on was that uh
she's playing on a lot of stuff but uh
Scarlet Letter was what I'm thinking of
all that stuff she played on a bunch so
good show make sure y'all go watch it I
do recommend that and if you don't like
it blame me but you're gonna have to
watch several episodes to really get
into it because it's one of those things
that like each episode like you have the
next episode is gonna explain the
previous one so you'll watch the episode
you and I want held it out watch and
then you watch the next episode it's
like mind blown Wow
that's what that was oh wow it's one of
those make sure y'all watch that stuff
man such a good such a good episode man
um talking about shamanism right I
always talk about being able to go into
the dream state pull stuff out and bring
it into your your life into your reality
in it I don't know this is how my mind
works now but even it was hard for me to
tell her my dreams even as a kid that
I've even overcome a lot of them through
life but as I'm telling her the dream
I'm interpreting it my
self I'm like oh I was running from my
fears running from my trauma what are
your fears there's a fear of Chucky and
stuff yeah I'm scared of that but the
deeper fear is like you know dad left
its mom gonna leave to like when I'm
left at home alone with my brother is he
gonna lock me in the in the chest again
like I'll just phears man and so when
you go to sleep you just process all
that fear and it just comes out and you
have to deal with it he had to get over
and I'll tell you like those dreams did
stop as I did the you know the childhood
healing stuff I went to deliverance
ministry and stuff came out hard to like
it was I would say you know there were
demons attached to it but what are the
demons right I say there's demons
attached to it the Bible talks about
demons being in thought forms and ideas
that are bad for you that kind of get in
and sink in that stuff affects the way
you react these bad perceptions that you
have their demonic strongholds the Bible
says if someone is going if you're gonna
plunder someone's house and rob somebody
says at first you must bind the
strongman and in the Bible that
strongman represents these certain types
of thought forms and thought patterns
demonic patterns that go against your
your higher good and go against your
greater good and you've got to bind them
you got to deal with them you got to
cast them out cast down every thought
and every imagination and and you may
have to get over some some stuff some
judgments and for in forgiveness
unforgiveness right running and fighting
with unforgiveness in your life that's
crazy to try to get to the bottom of
that good stuff so I'm since we're
talking about dreams I'm gonna go ahead
and go into it just a little bit deeper
with some things I had here so we got to
out we got the allegory right you said
no it's not a Liguori it's literal the
Bible is literal the Bhagavad Gita is
literal you know we have to look at the
allegory of these stories like
where does the allegory come from we
look at like I said The Lion the Witch
in a wardrobe Star Wars Lord of the
Rings The Matrix it's all allegory but
we want we want them to exist deep
within they exist right they'd all exist
it's all taking place within us like I
said Joseph Campbell referred to it as
the hero's journey and the power of myth
the power not the it's the power of
myths not the explanation of your faith
myth no you're looking at it wrong its
power in those stories man unlock the
power of those stories connect with the
divine through those stories what does
it mean what do they mean to you because
if ya literally like what does it mean
to you know it's not about what it means
to you it's about the literal meaning
there's nobody on this planet who's
gonna agree with everything in your
religion in your Bible that book is too
big it is subject to interpretation
because we're gonna read the same story
and we're gonna get something different
from it and we're gonna be it's gonna be
right for that person at the right time
that's what the Bible calls the logo
swear to God the Word of God is the logo
says what for what you need for you at
that moment like what did it mean to you
for that reason at that moment you know
two years from now you might read those
same stories and you'll see deeper
things that change the whole story but
if you look back at where you were when
you read it the first time it doesn't
change that it meant that for you and it
helped you and it served you those
thoughts and those ideas the logos
that's what the Word of God is to
sustain you from day to day
the manna from heaven only get what you
need for today don't try to take more
don't try to take less get what you need
for this day give us this day our daily
bread and give us I'll give me tomorrow
no Lord give us today the bread that we
need for the week no give me today what
I need to sustain me and to conquer this
day
and the goat go through those cycles man
24-hour period go through those cycles
with the phases of the Moon with the
cycle of the Sun the stars like a we're
all it's all about that there's stories
as allegories as all telling the stories
of seasons and cycles I mentioned man I
mentioned what's his name um Star Wars
George Lucas admitted and talks openly
about his influence from Joseph Campbell
setting up the hero's journey sounds a
lot like Jesus's journey to death the
resurrection the rebirth accepting your
fate you know Lord if it's possible take
this cup from me questioning your fate
if it's possible to take this cup from
me but if this is the only way I'll do
it like all that plays out in those
movies and IKEA always told myself is
like man while we keep seeing the same
script in every movie while we can't
come up with something new why is it
always the same the villain comes in
there comes with a problem you know some
we're spending the majority of the movie
trying to write that problem like every
the majority of movies are like that
it's like man while we can't think of
nothing new there's nothing new Under
the Sun like it's all been done you know
they tried there is other movies and
stuff but the most of them it's like
problem solving skills in the way that
we like to conflict and resolution and
order AB K order out of chaos we like to
chaos and then we like to fix it we like
to see how it turns out that's like
every movie man all of this all of it
the villain comes in and takes the or
the villain comes in and tries to take
the Infinity stones or whatever they are
and then you find the whole movie you're
trying to get them back and and it all
comes from the hero's journey and it's a
beautiful story explains it um it kind
of you know fits in personís fit in
there a little bit like what you think
about yourself how your your mindset is
how you gonna embrace the day actually
talked about like giving you courage to
face the day through
a dream state and stuff I remember when
I used to play basketball a lot back
when I was younger I would embody
different basketball characters in my
mind as I played so I had I had like
people that I liked
Tim Hardaway back in the I was younger
he was one of my favorites in that and
he had a certain style of playing
someone who's gonna drive to the rim
maybe shake you up and try to hit a a
reverse layup
right he wasn't dunking he's just
driving in layups on you I loved his
style of playing and I would embody that
right and it would help me in my in my
waking state and something happening in
my mind affected the way that my output
I would and then there would be other
players I'm gonna play like Shawn Kemp
today I'm gonna play in the post I'm
taller than a lot of these guys out here
I'm gonna play in the post and I'm gonna
be getting rebound Dennis Rodman I'm
getting every rebound this whole game
I'm getting rebounds and I'm jumping
over like I mean I'm a play with older
people who are like two foot taller than
me and I'm snagging rebounds boxing a
mouse because it's in my mind I can
easily go back to Tim Hardaway said I'm
gonna bring it to the outside
i'ma shake this big tall dude up Drive
bomb and try to lay up and I could do
that too but it's like this persona that
you're living out because of a decision
you made in your mind so Tim Hardaway
represents the style of playing Shawn
Kemp represents this Dennis Rodman
represented that and then I kind of play
based off of those personas me embodying
that it's good stuff it sounds silly
like we're just being open but hey it is
it crawling says how tall is truth six
one I'll disappoint you I'm pretty sure
I'm not that on that I'm sure but I'm
not in that sword anyway back to the
allegory they're real bro people get mad
and I've been doing some writing on this
about the allegory and the power of it
and then the defense mechanism is
because you're almost like saying that
they think you're saying that their
religion is a lie they think that you're
saying that what they haven't believed
and have given their heart
their life and their deaths their
eternal salvation to believe this
certain doctrine or whatever and they
feel they get a defensive and think that
you're saying it's a lie and I say you
telling me that I'm I'm following a lie
nobody likes to be told that so what is
it it's the allegory it's the meaning
apply the meaning the boy who cried wolf
that really happened bro there was a boy
who really cried wolf and then when the
wolf came nobody came to help because
they had already started coming so but
that's based on the true story bro
doesn't it make it it makes it real
though if it was explained to you it's
like a legend
you have urban legends it's a legend a
man is the dude right he's always cried
wolf man and he got him be careful dude
you're gonna end up like that guy it
really happened and so it make this like
you're watching a scary movie I love
these scary movies you're watching a
scary movie and it's like based on a
true story it changes everything
it changes based on a true story I
thought this was fake bro the Blair
Witch Project based on a true story
it's really Aryan it wasn't right at the
end you find out it wasn't actors and
all that kind of stuff but when it came
out that that show was phenomenal and a
movie was phenomenal and changed the way
that from that point out of like
cinematography where you could go out
and do the first-person thing so many
movies came out after that first person
they got the camera on themselves oh my
god Cloverfield right and that came out
years after but Cloverfield then we have
all the Paranormal Activity type movies
that tell you that hey this was this was
the true story oh this person's shooting
this firsthand this is cell phone
footage this is real you know what I'm
saying even before that I kind of like
to give homage to the two McPherson
footage the McPherson footage was
something that came out when I'm talking
about these so call was a true story let
me see the type in it right here
then McPherson footage I think it's not
it but there were it was an incident
incident in Lake County the McPherson
footage this stuff was it came out on
the W be back in like maybe 97 1998
January 18th right after my birthday
1998 watch that stuff that's that's
where they got the idea for what's it
called uh just blowing my mind now but
um the Blair Witch but this was like the
same type of deal but with aliens right
this is all these people at this
birthday party they got out they
literally have a home recording camera
one of the big ones back in the day you
have when your shoulders got I think
they have one of those in there filming
them at a birthday party power goes out
all the stuffs happening they go outside
they see aliens on the roof and Oh Lord
is illness and it they were responded to
it really bad cheesy acting but it they
sold it when it aired on The WB like it
was real and me and my mom watching
horror movies scared to death of aliens
as a kid I'm watching that guy eating
laying in the back you know right now
but um me watching that as a kid and
then you see the disclaimer based on
real real events this is a true story
you're like oh Lord then it goes into
we're thinking about like what's the
other alien movie a fire in the sky
based on a true story the story of
Travis Walton these aliens these demonic
looking beings I show up and pick you up
and kidnap you and beat you up
and it changes the way that you perceive
it cuz you're like this is real this
really happened bro that doesn't come
even though like somebody says the
fourth kind alley I refuse to watch that
alley I refuse to watch it that's what
when the fourth con came out when I was
doing having a lot of et contact right
a lot of angelic contact and that was
kind of like something that would
discourage you from from doing that
these abductions and all kind of crazy
possession type deal so that came out
when I was half
my encounters like nope not watching it
still haven't watched it to this day but
all that stuff it shapes the way and
even that they tried to say that was a
true story and we even have real footage
and I think they did like side-by-side
footage of like Milla Jovovich is
character amazing actor actress by the
way she played that role and then like
supposedly some real footage of the real
person going through like wouldn't seem
to be deliverance and all the crit in it
just something like that would reaffirm
the fact from a Christian standpoint
that uh it's demons bro see they're
demonically possessed because they watch
that movie and they base their
understanding of perception of aliens
and demons off of this movie which was
said to be real which in the end
admittedly is all made up but you your
your level of belief and you let your
guard down as thinking it's just
allegory or or if or a story you
probably not thinking allegory at the
moment but you let you go down to
believe it and so the funny thing is
like I'm watching gremlins and watching
critters and all of this stuff and there
was no there-there even was no no
disclaimer that is real like we knew we
didn't know because I thought they were
real they look real that's my problem
with horror movies now is the fact that
these horror movie these monsters they
don't look real they're CGI like it
doesn't even look real but you can have
a little puppet run by this and the
corner of the the dresser and the movie
cat's eye you know look that they live
real it's real they literally would
dress you know people they would make a
full-size suit and they would make a
full-size set that would look like a you
know a toy block Lego you know I'm
saying the dresser they would have these
real life-sized looking dressers and
stuff and they would film it up a real
person in the suit running by the corner
of the dresser and then they would put
it on on film and then they'd show it
next to a puppet and all that stuff and
you're like wow that's like that's real
looking I don't know why they don't do
that anymore I hate the fact that
they've got it gotten away from
the puppet stuff maybe it was the death
of Jim Henson because he was responsible
for a lot of that stuff right maybe with
his deaths marked the end of that era
but they don't shoot a horror movies
like that anymore now you see a CGI
monster walk into the room or CGI wood
and it says not convincing but for me
something man those little puppets and
there's Facebook groups stuff that I
follow rubber little monsters is a
really cool Facebook group that's
dedicated to like showing all of the
like how they're made and some of the
really ones you even forgot about some
of those things are super creepy like
when you have something like in the
flesh there versus something that's just
CGI and like you could tell man so
that's one of my things with with horror
movies because I still love them and I'm
kind of I've gotten over the fear and I
think one of the reasons I like it I
have liked horror movie t-shirts and
stuff and I collect some of that stuff I
got some horror movies back here let me
just grab this give me two seconds for
those of you watching for those of you
who are listening I'll explain to you
what they are hold on one second all
right so here is some horror movies that
I found the other day or a couple weeks
ago on a VHS in an old building but
these are some of the best ones man this
is the one of the originals of the
collector's edition of the Night of the
Living Dead and this is really cool VHS
collecting collector stuff that's really
cool right to have Dawn of the Dead by
uh this is George Romano
George Romero it looks like there's a
signature on this maybe it's it's an
anniversary edition edition of the Dawn
of the Dead those zombie movies right it
looks like it's signed I'm pretty sure
that's just printed on here I need to
find out though he's no longer with us
that you's a great man George Romero um
and then here is one of the best man I
gotta let my daughter watch this one
soon the creep show creep show VHS of
the creep show man really good stuff -
oh the old throwback stuff where they
used puppets or painted people up to be
these I think you know maybe that's one
of the reasons why the Walking Dead's
doing so so good or has done so good and
you know it was physically something
there those zombies got more intricate
as the seasons went on and they look man
there's some crazy makeup and artists
who are affiliated with that show that
can bring that to the table but for a
part of me you would say like garbage in
garbage out right if you're and that
that exists I think like what it what is
fear is only gonna represent to you what
you let in okay so to me
fear represented Chucky fear represented
gremlins and critters and those little
disgusting little monsters for others
the fear that represents itself to you
and you in a dream could be something
totally different it's the point it's
it's the the PIO are it's the point of
reference what represents fear to you in
your dream and while you're dealing with
fear whether it's from the movie or
whatever or from usually like we're
talking about it's not literally
sousou-sama's not has nothing to do with
the movie but they represent characters
they represent personifications of fear
what what does that fear represent to
you so your fear may be riding a bike
like you know I'm saying so a little kid
who has not watched the creep show or
not watch gremlins and stuff they're
they're not probably not gonna have
dreams of being chased by gremlins and
critters they may have a dream that they
keep there's a bike you got a clowns
right some people scared of clowns it's
whatever they see like dogs if you don't
have like these little monsters to kind
of go back to the point of reference
you're gonna be scared of a dog and the
dog keeps chasing you and a dog is
showing up and a dog for me it was I
think is intensified because I had these
little grotesque looking monsters but it
is still it's still fear no matter what
it is well no matter what it looks like
it's the the feeling that you fear like
you can feel you're gonna feel the same
way by that dog if that's your pee or or
you're looking at this guy from creep
show like
you're still gonna feel that fear maybe
it's intense to me it would be I would
think it's more intense to see a gremlin
trust me I was scared to death that
night and I think they had something to
do with it but you're gonna you gonna
feel that fear and you're gonna know
what it feels like and you know getting
the courage that was just something
beautiful she brought to the table is
that you kind of process those feelings
and you know what it feels like so when
you go through that transition in in the
waking State State it's not as hard and
you don't freak out and you don't like
mess your brain up in the way your brain
functions by having all of this stress
and stuff and like for me I I do that
empathy in in life and I do that
gratitude in life because I came from
nothing like I showed if you go on my
Instagram you go on any of my social
media you'll see where I came from I
started out in a shack in the bayou
like in the shacks on a shack in the in
the swamps of New Orleans Louisiana like
right on the outskirts in the Bayou
Bayou gosh as a picture of it I went
back to visit it it was deep it looks
like a shed like it's crazy I went back
to visit I come from that so and then I
look back at my life and there's you
know things were I feel like I should
have died man the experiences that I've
had and guns pulled on me and smoking
and ingesting things that probably
should have killed me you know I'm
saying so every day that I have in this
life I'm here I'm saying I have that
breath the breath is still there okay
attitude of gratitude and honor I give
things let's go let's move forward whoa
like what's next I don't have to like
I've dealt with the trauma I've dealt
with that stuff and I embrace it I'm
thankful for it so I'm thankful I made
peace with those demons that existed I
made peace with those gremlins right
essentially you would think garbage in
garbage out why would you entertain
those things you're supposed to renew
your mind yeah it's been renewed I have
now I'm approaching these things with
the renewed mind now I'm able to watch a
horror movie with the renewed mind not a
little kid hidden in fear being bullied
and beat up by his older brother and
didn't having to deal with bullies as
and all of this stuff right you know man
just so much guys I'm having a I'm
having revelation it's like crazy on
this show I hope you guys are too but I
look at like my over infatuation with
gangster movies gangster movies black
culture urban culture like music you
know what I'm saying like that
personification I was over I loved it
man I'm a little kid walking around that
I remember my brother just like be quiet
what are you doing I'm walking around
the house singing songs at like 8 years
old 9 years old about weighing dope I
don't know what it means I just I know
the lyrics right I'm walking around I'm
just saying that out lies I'm a mama
here's you man she gonna take our CDs
like oh and I'm like oh you know trying
to process that but then I grew up
watching those those movies and it began
to became the personification for me of
watching boys in the hood watching
menace to society I will watch menace to
society over and over and over and over
somebody said Goodfellas and it's like I
tell myself I learn how to fight by
watching you know some of those movies
so by watching uh you learn you learn
from the things that you you watch man
and uh and it places but you have to ask
well why do you like it like what does
that for most people like it's gonna
it's gonna fulfill a need man it gets
into a lot of weird stuff about what
you're dealing with why you hooked on
dope like why are you smoking dope why
do you why do you shoot shoot up while
you're shooting heroin while you smoking
crack why do you smoke weed everyday'
why do you need to escape or why or me
even on that side why I don't do it cuz
it represents and I understand what it
represents to me and what it what I
needed was my crutch and those things so
you look at everything
it gets crazy you look at everything man
and say why am i drawn to this why am i
drawn to video games escapism but then
again I love art I love I'm competitive
why are you
relative you're just trying to
overanalyze everything that's all you
doing is over analyzing it you need to
you're trying to get to the next levels
you trying to say stuck on the video
games you'll never get nothing
accomplished you were trying to say
stuck on there you trying to say stuck
on gangster movies no I've talked about
why the hell I'm drawn to horror movies
well I'm drawn to gangster movies why
does it hot why did it you know maybe I
learned lingo I learned how to talk
while listening to rap music I learn how
to talk listening to gangster movies how
to fight and then it comes out and I'm a
rapper right and all that stuff kind of
plays out in it even before we went
laughs she's like I just love your voice
like it helps me when I rap right but
sometimes when I'm breaking down some
intellectual material it you may take me
less seriously but so I've kind of even
with that kind of found a way to balance
the two that I don't have to always be
super serious even though we're
discussing very serious subjects I can
be the lighter side to it
the Vinnie Eastwood of spirituality
occultism the Bible right going through
it all so why do I entertain these
movies God delivered me from a lot of
that stuff I had to be delivered by
working through it you don't just get
pulled out of it you got to work through
it stuff would be stuck all on you you
got to wash yourself and the waters of
Lake Minnetonka you got to do it why man
this is just crazy acai one of those
movies man why and somebody's commenting
here Christie folks it's like talking
about brother Wayne who the hell is
brother Wayne where did brother Wayne
come from he brother Wayne exists right
brother Wayne is like the epitome of the
Southern Baptist Convention and this
this character that I've created who was
like I know it all
you know preacher who is like the
epitome of all the internet people
exposing people so it's just persona
that I created that comes out through
that but he wouldn't have that persona I
wouldn't have it created that if there
wasn't a need for it I wouldn't have
created if it wasn't an outlet
and there was a lot of stuff that comes
with that and it's kind of diminishing a
little bit but essentially all of these
things come from somewhere and you
create them in and he they serve you
they serve you and you got to cut out
the stuff that doesn't serve you cut out
the stuff that doesn't serve you snack
oh um again let me try to finish this
wide why do I still watch horror movies
well I've made peace with that right
I've made peace with with my demons
essentially whether the horror movies
horror movies wasn't my demons I might
show my daughter some of this stuff and
she laughs and this is not doesn't have
that mmm that it had for me or for my
generation a lot of kids laugh at they
laugh at our music it's not good you
know it's just it's the ways of
perception I left out my mom's music but
now that I'm older I love that music I
love anything from there I literally
love almost anything from the 80s and
90s
it's the nostalgia is the time machine
that takes me back anything any place it
you know Cyndi Lauper I mean I used to
ride on my truck work truck I turn it up
turn it up man and it just brings you
back right it brings you back not and I
hated it when I was a kid man I don't
want to hear that I'm in the gangster
rap man you don't want to hear that when
you're I didn't want to hear but now I
enjoy all of it it takes me back and it
helps me see things differently because
I'm older well when I was in it you
can't see it you can't see the forest
from the trees and you can't smell you
know what I'm saying
you can't really deal with it but I've
made peace with my demons and every I'm
trying to because y'all feel like you
don't make peace with them they gonna
get you ever seen a movie drag me to
hell if I own of y'all seen that way
they gonna try to drag you to hell man
literally bitterness rage Envy why are
you envious get something for yourself
and I'll guarantee you stop envying
other people talking about the dreams
you've given up on your dreams well go
recapture the dream it's you can do that
you can recapture the dream I've done
lots of episodes on recapturing the
dream I've done it for myself and I've
give
up on my dream and spent hours and
crying and things like that when it
comes to dealing with my dream thinking
that it's lost forever and it's a pipe
dream and I'm following something that
there's no possible way that this can
work
and I've recaptured it there's been key
players and people in my life who have
encouraged me to do that there was books
that I've read that were stories of
allegory that play it out my story even
in the Bible and stuff like that so man
this stuff is it it's all theory it's
all beautiful crazy articulate dream
state stuff until you have the power to
bring it into your reality have the pot
somebody says write their home sauce
what our brother he's saying as above so
below he's talking about the movie I did
see that movie too but literally as
above so below as below in your mind so
it embodies in your life as above in the
ethers in the heavens we're talking
about this so-called character or
characters angels demons higher-self God
that exists above you but also within
you and on the earth as it is in heaven
as above so below and so to be able to
manifest that stuff in the reality and
not just be a victim but to be a
Victoire not to be someone who's just on
default but someone who's making choices
and you know what you want like that
process from just existing - hey let me
shake this thing let me mold is staying
them to brief some breath into this
thing that's the hero's journey how long
it takes you to get from here to here
then from here to here the Israelites
going wandering through the wilderness I
have no idea where the hell they're
going they're just wandering until they
kind of get vision someone with them
gets vision and it took them like you
know hundreds of years of slavery and
the Sun years of wandering that it could
have like I think somebody did the the
math on it with Google Maps and uh you
know that the map app on the phone and
it was like a six-day walk like a
six-day journey took him like 40 years
wandering aimlessly and that's how we
are we wander aimlessly 30 years 20
years she's talking about 40 in below
right whatever it is age that you're
waking up hopefully the younger the
better you can deal with your stuff
there's a lot of more people who are
waking up at a younger age and they're
becoming way more conscious we talked
about it this week
at the at the concert in the festival
that we did but quote in Christie Lee
but Christie leaves working with people
who were stepping into their destiny at
70 years old 60 years old who were just
now dealing with the stuff that happened
to them when they were seven you're 60
and you're now dealing with something
that happened to you when you were seven
I mean it's deep people don't waste your
life right deal with dues of work
nobody's gonna do it for you no one can
do it for you you have to do your own
inward work you have to do your own
inward work the allegory the boy who
cried wolf like you have to learn a
lesson what does that mean what did what
did what does all of this mean to you
not to me
I'll articulate what it means to me you
articulate what it means to you we'll
try to get to the bottom of it find
common ground find the beauty in the
blueprint but it might mean something
else to you and that's okay that's the
weird thing religion doctrine and dogma
and sectarianism will have you believe
and teach you that because we see
different things we're not the same or
we can't be friends or we can't build
together or whatever the case is you
know I like everything but this I like
are you stuff but that I don't like what
you say oh that's fine I don't care
it don't serve you I don't like your
podcast me 17000 other podcast you could
choose from I don't like your music I
like it all but this tune it out does
that make me a bad person like what does
it why don't you like it and that's
we're getting deeper again why don't you
like it like why don't you like it well
I don't like it because this I have
things I don't like and I don't like
them for reasons not because I'm biased
and judgmental but because I've dealt
with certain things
I hate depression I hate there's a lot I
hate bullies like I hate people who
stuff people in chests you know I'm
saying like you hate you you have you
have a prejudice for a reason you've
dealt with some
situations so it makes you angry why why
are you reacting so that's what you got
to kind of get up get off onto like why
are you reacting why is that person
causing you to react
I had this conversation like yesterday
or the day before with a friend who
talked about I got friends who keep
losing jobs I got friends who bounced
around from job to job and it is insane
seven jobs in six months like crazy
stuff that's weird what's happening
something's up and this person is not
really good he's in customer service and
they've reached a point where it's just
not good you don't know how to talk to
people it just quit scaring he just
starts telling people how he really
feels and belittling people and cutting
them down and keeps getting let go from
job to job to job like how are you
responding to people ma'am why are you
doing that like you have to play to
you're strange like you got to learn not
to do that or learn what it is I don't
like this stepping out of me like I was
on I was on the job years ago one of my
first jobs I worked for the city here in
a little town called Satsuma Alabama and
I worked there and my boss they were a
bunch of good old boys I'm coming off of
you know gangster rap and just getting
in church and trying to better myself
and all that but I come out of this my
eyes talk differently I some from New
Orleans and I'm living in Alabama they
don't even like the way I talk
they tell me to repeat myself they can't
understand me all kind of little funny
redneck little jabs they would take at
me right and I was on that job and it
was just dealing with those type of
people but then the boss would always
talk to me like I was a kid and
essentially I was I was 17 when I
started working there and I really
learned to grow up on that job too and
but I had to relationship with the boss
I was getting in trouble a lot like we
had inmates and we were doing stuff and
it was just it was crazy lots of lessons
lots of memories too there at that job
but um the boss would always talk down
to me and then some of the employees
would talk down to me as well like I'm a
kid you know and I'll talk to you like
you're stupid and I was there I think I
was there five years and then so I I
ended up leaving that job once I kind of
went
to the next level got my CDL started
driving another truck or whatever but I
told myself that I'm not going to it was
kind of they're a little bit like I'm
not going to put myself in that same
situation and and let people talk to me
like that like I'm not gonna let my but
my next boss is not gonna stoop down
over me and are you stupid all this kind
of stuff or whatever they did talking to
me like a kid so I told myself that went
to this new job and like the first a
second day there there's this little
older white lady who's the owner yelling
at one of the truck drivers which was a
bigger black guy and and she's just
cutting him down cussing him are you
effing stupid you don't know how to do
your job yeah and she's just laying into
him right and so coming from this past
job I told myself was gonna do that and
I seen her picture okay that's what it
looks like I have to prevent myself from
letting that happen I have to let this
lady know if I do something that she
don't like which I did she cannot talk
to me like that this he just taken it
yes ma'am she's like yes stupid yeah
this is crazy this little lady so this
is their relationship when he gets out
of line he does something wrong it's
okay for her to Vince
she might be venting on whatever you
know the company took a loss her husband
says something out the way to her last
night
why are you responding to this man like
that let's deal with her in her
childhood wounds right why you why do
you feel like it's okay to talk to
anybody like that and if you you do like
why do you feel like it's okay why would
you let her talk where do you stand so
moving forward I made that scene from
talk to me like that hello I'm a
grown-ass man I put my you put your
pants on one leg at a time like me you
don't wake up and just jump into your
pants you a person you can claim
yourself you just just like me you're
nothing to talk to me like that so I
took that with me I was early on and it
that was my graduation point not being a
push around not being a push over even
you know being passive sometimes it's
about holding your tongue maybe that's
what that guy was going through but I
had told myself I wasn't gonna
let anybody just talk to me any kind of
way and so you have to everybody's
experience is this different man and you
get to the bottom of it and I really you
know I appreciate every single part
every single role that we've played and
we'll be able to look back at it and you
know thank God for the demons I really
do
I do at this point you know I don't
really you get I think you get to a
place where you thank God when you're
going through them you make peace with
your demons when you're going through
and you welcome them a mouse seen y'all
before okay this is it okay that's what
y'all doing okay
I get you I've dealt with job before you
deal with people like that I've comes
with the prejudice thing that comes with
the preconceived notions sometimes it's
healthy like there are prejudice for a
reason people do this these type of
people usually do that be careful don't
walk down a dark alleyway and
at night by yourself if you a woman like
there's there's things that exists
before reasons like in word there's
wisdom in it you know it so it's like I
just don't judge anybody know there's
prejudice and stuff and wisdom for a
reason because you've done it before and
the more experience you had with the
more dreams you had like she was talking
about you're able to kind of learn from
it apply it and move on and go to the
next level the next chapter in your life
so you like having dreams about
nightmares or something happened to you
when you were seven deal with it get
over it literally with grace but get
over it
talking about dreams man I've had I
wanted to ask her about this or interest
somebody asked me I think it was a Kris
garner who's uh
wanted me to ask her about being naked
in public being naked in public and I
think that um I really don't even think
that you even have to ask her
I think you just see what it cuz you cuz
she's gonna ask you like why I asked her
because she's gonna ask you I she's
gonna make you kind of go within and see
what it means right what it means to
show up and not be prepared right I mean
that's me like I didn't really have a
lot of naked dreams I had I had these
weird dreams that I would go to school
with no shoes on
like I wouldn't be naked in school I
wouldn't have no shoes I played them I
ain't got no shoes or I'm walking around
barefoot you know and everything
where's your shoe they're buddies like
calling it out you know what does that
mean not being prepared or not be for me
you know fear of not being able to play
sports
wow we're just gonna go deep we're just
gonna do it not being able to play
sports I mean it represents like my mom
not being able to like I made the
basketball team but my mom had to work
in the evenings and couldn't take me to
to practice so I couldn't be on the
basketball team we live too far away so
I have dreams about going to school
without my shoes which means I couldn't
participate in sports crazy stuff guys
what does it mean to you it might mean
something mean different to somebody
else and they can't it probably does
have multiple meanings as well but what
does it mean to you I started being able
to interpret dreams man I caught myself
obviously trying to interpret my own
dreams like why am I having dreams of
tornadoes and some of these things kind
of stand out why am I having dreams of
tornadoes why am I having dreams of
snakes like those are reoccurring things
earthquakes you know and those are those
things may kind of stand out that they
represent you know things like that you
know in it in it I'm telling you even
tornadoes what does it mean to you does
it mean destruction
is everything about to be twisted and
turned around for you you know is there
a new beginning coming it's a
devastation coming or it doesn't all
have to be negative that was one thing
with that book I was looking at it was
all negative stuff what's the positive
outcomes of it that means something
negative what's the positive outcome a
stain what does the tornado mean to me
positive how can that be positive for me
one way for me would be a tornado coming
into your life would see ascension
Elijah I think I knock - I'm not I can't
remember right off but uh I know Elijah
he was caught up in a whirlwind he
ascended left this place in a whirlwind
he ascends it to the next dimension
another level of density a new frequency
does is that what it represents in your
dream - you make the best of it why not
let's look for the good in all we've
been there well we looked for the bad
and everything that doesn't really work
out good you start you become a hermit
you just become a know-it-all you become
someone who is judgemental and not fun
to be around you're sitting there
judging everything even before its
appointed time um but yeah I begin to be
able to interpret my own dreams and then
I would be able to interpret my wife's
dreams and it was just like the Lord
just speaking to me because I'll be
laying in bed and we'd wake up and I'd
still be half asleep so I'm kind of
still in the dream state and my wife
said oh my god I just had this dream I
was being chased by a wolf you know it's
always it's being chased by something
right I'm being chased by this and then
this comes up and then I seen so-and-so
from church and then this person you
know and it and as she's telling me I'm
already getting the interpretation right
she's saying there's a wolf okay and
then like the Lord would speak to me
that's your finances in your job
situation and the wolf bit me and ran
okay it took a piece of her cause pain
it caused harm our situation is causing
or has caused or is going to call it's
my wife harm you know I'm saying and be
able to say and this person came of this
person just represents they go to my
church so it represents my church family
and then that person represents this you
know and it's not but you try to be
literal with it you were like man look I
got to be careful because if we go
camping I might get bit by a wolf like
that dream was surreal guys there was
something to that dream if we go camping
I'm watching out for wolves I'm just
saying
wolves if there's a tornado warning I'm
gonna be prepared like and you want to
think it's literal like you're literally
looking for to win the lottery I had a I
had a overwhelming dream that I won the
lottery and won millions of dollars and
I thought it was literal I we took a
couple trips and I went to the slot
machine a couple years ago they loved me
and his dreams was real
I'm just gonna put his money in there
just to say I did it and so I do it and
we we literally stopped went in I put my
money in it pulled it no it wasn't a
millionaire walked out I'm just because
the dream was so surreal right cuz I
look I'm already won the damn lottery
godliness with contentment is great gain
here we you know we want to have money
one way to do the things our hearts
desire but we literally have that if
that's what you want you seek for it the
Lord said if you delight yourself in me
I will give you the desires of your
heart so we think that money fulfills us
but the Lord said the light in me and
I'll give it to you don't worry about
this person giving it to you don't worry
about landing the big interview and that
blowing up your podcasts don't worry
about landing that or don't worry about
this feature or getting a retweet from
so-and-so you know cuz your heart kind
of gets pulled away in those things in
the creative process and ideas you're
like how can I make it but just get with
the dreamer of dreams and the one who
makes the dreams the one who gives them
the one who opens up your ear in the
middle of the night and gives you wisdom
and tells you about it the Bible says
that it was the Lord that does it all
anyway so get with that person get with
that entity that God that deity get with
that first and I'll find out look I
don't need to go and win the lottery
it'd be beautiful great we'd do it it
would take this to many levels right so
many levels but um I've already won the
lottery I've already pulled that handle
well in what way
well in the way that first of all I just
told you that is an attitude of
gratitude that I'm breathing y'all still
breathing we breathing its air what they
say in school we used to draw a line and
say cross that line and if that person
crossed the line we're gonna fight if
you cross that line we're gonna fight
cross that line it will say look ain't
nothing between us but air and
opportunity bro just get it an
opportunity that's all it is air an
opportunity there's breath as long as
you still have breath as long as you're
still breathing right now you have
something to be thankful for something
if you got if the world's falling apart
every other place is falling apart
finances and in relationships and and
thoughts are running wild and all of
these things going against you like you
still have breath you're here you're
listening to this you're still here man
we can make something happen
we can do it air an opportunity breath
you have something to be thankful for so
I won the lottery with that I'm still
breathing because it could trust me I
know people who aren't they cannot claim
themselves on the earth anymore they're
not breathing anymore I'm thankful I'm
still here they didn't kill me they
tried to kill me
you didn't do it the Lord had other
plans I'm still here I'm thankful for
that
that's the little things let's move on
out you got your breath my heart hearts
beating if that thing stops it's over
it's so rap I'll see y'all later if that
heart stops I'm true it's still
breathing I'm still beating I'm still
breathing it's a good song by head PE
College still I think it's called uh
what's to call it still standing I think
it's called still standing but talks
about that I'm still here I might be
bleeding but I'm still breathing I'd be
hurt might be wounded but I'm still here
guess what you got time to do what's
your body naturally gonna do it's
naturally gonna heal it's gonna heal
itself like Wolverine right I'm
Wolverine you cut me I'm gonna heal
eventually let me get over it I got my
heart I got my breath I got two hands
I got a jacked-up finger it hinders me a
little bit I have a job to show y'all a
daughter watching on camera I do have a
jacked up finger it's normal to me
though it's kind of like some kind of
character if you look at it like what
the hell is wrong with your finger son
if y'all could see it is like it's this
finger here the ring finger it's kind of
jacked up I would Jack that finger it
hinders me playing guitar a little bit I
play bass better and bigger strings but
um
that hinders me I got two hands a table
fell on it when I was a toddler
somebody was babysitting me and they
were careless and somebody knocked over
a marble slab that was like a table top
and it fell on my finger busted it wide
open I was an infant and they said I
could be they could either pick the
finger off or have a messed-up looking
finger they fixed it sewed it up
probably low-cost and I was back in the
80s and I got a finger so in a way it's
still functional it's just weird-looking
it missed a meal but I'm thankful I'm
thankful they didn't cut it off too
right
that's think that's thankful and he just
move out man breaths Hart hands feet
wiggle your toes humanity I'm still here
you just move out like some of the
exoteric things some of the things on
the outside I got a house I got a job
might not be the best job but it's a job
there's people who would kill for your
job right now the job that you're
complaining about the job that you were
ready to be released from don't grow
weary in well-doing because there's
people who would love to be in that
situation your relationship with your
wife your relationship with your husband
maybe rocky may be going through some
things but there's somebody who would
love to step in your your shoes I'd love
to be there love to have your husband
I'd love to have your wife be thankful
work on it well the grass is greener on
the other side no pull your thoughts
back in the grass is greener where you
water it was asking if that was a Mason
ring who said that crawling sir says is
that a Mason ring no now this isn't a
Mason ring it's an amazing ring
innocence is gonna leave me to tell a
story if you can see on camera if you're
listening you can't see so I'll explain
it this is ring the focus is to focus if
you can tell that's the crown of thorns
on my wedding ring he says he's just
kidding well now you're gonna hear the
story crawling you did it it's dirty I
need to wash it
but um it's the crown-of-thorns man this
is my wedding ring and so this is
something that represents a lot of stuff
right it represents represents Christ
and I also represent there's a scripture
that says a three stranded cord is not
easily broken and and that's always
represented for us in marriage me my
wife and in God Jesus right so when we
got married like we didn't have anything
I was working at McDonald's my wife had
a low-paying job she was serving tables
and didn't have a lot of money barely
could pay the rent right and we prayed
you know if God was gonna you know lead
us to get married and we wanted to do
that that that we would just pay for the
ring you know rings I think were 300
bucks and gave us a deal we knew the guy
there who worked there the jeweler 300
bucks so then my dad was a sacrifice I
was big so we you know saved the money
up and bought our rings bought our
wedding rings and represents Christ man
the crown of thorns so anyway family
came together and helped prepare and and
friends and church families all the time
we had a really nice wedding and that
was back in 2001 so little babies babies
getting married 2001 then I was 17 17 I
think yeah 17 got married wife was 18
good stuff Christie folks says Erin is
the best so yeah being him my wife being
able to tell me her dreams and I was
able to interpret it and I just start
taking it further practicing it
repetition reduces resistance it's like
a muscle you get better at it look at me
flexing like yeah I'm pretty good I'm
good at this dream thing I'm good at
this wrapping thing we start out you're
not so good I'll give you y'all hear my
early rap stuff it's out there but if
you're here the early rap stuff it's
silly I'm haunted by this sometimes but
I'm thankful I'm not horny
I like this some people were still
around since those days very few but
there is some people are still around
um it's beautiful so it but it all
represents on represents alchemy I can
show people that hey this why started
just like I can talk about the ring hey
that's why I started I can show y'all
the picture of the Shack in Bayou gosh
Louisiana it looks like a shed hey
that's why I started I'm not there
anymore I can show you a bitter insecure
potty mouth like negative person I would
rob you like I would love to break in
your house back in it I would rob my
friends back in the day I rarely robbed
strangers it was usually my friends cuz
I knew what you had I knew what your mom
had a new way your video games were like
we're going in your house when you leave
that's I'm not that person anymore
I can show you that person and where
that person was headed where I was ended
ended up mentally for one thing show you
a person into a stupid weird occultism
and all kind of stuff like that so I can
show you that I came from that I have
that to show you don't you're not gonna
be able to know where you're headed
unless you know where you came from
understand understand where you came
from to understand where you're going
that's part of it I've had some some
dreams that dad have a system II they
were prophetic right they they did they
helped me like I had dreams about stuff
that was gonna happen but it included me
and in some way or I do believe in
prophetic dreams right I but but they
are drenched in symbolism now I don't
think that there there are literal I
don't think that you're gonna have a
dream that this happened I had a dream
and I'll probably explain this before
but I had a dream and I don't know if
I'll give all the details but I had a
dream that um the church I was going to
at the time that there I had a dream
that I was at that church and there was
a black dude wearing all black had a
black top-hat had black glasses black
trench coat and he had a gun it was a
futuristic gun had lights on it lighting
up and and uh it was from the future and
he was shooting
proximity mines on the wall he's just
walking around keep walking my - I knew
who's getting ready to blow it up
he's shooting these mines all over the
wall hooking to it
he blows up the church and then a lot of
those people and at the church ran for
cover and they ran to another church
right down the road it was a bigger
Church and and it's like something's up
I can't forget it I can't forget to
dream it keeps coming up I can't get out
of my head okay Lord what is it I saw
praying I ended up going to the youth
pastor at the time I was seven I was 17
I went to the youth pastor they're like
I think that's the devil we're just
gonna pray against it I felt like it was
God so we prayed against it Lord take
these dreams away you know all this
kinda stuff I was like I felt like
unfulfilled like I think we missed the
point I think it was something more to
that dream so I ended up bringing it to
my prophetic circle that I was a part of
on Thursday nights and who believed in
this stuff and they had books and they
worked in dream interpretation and still
believed in it I brought the dream to
them and they wrote it down we talked
about the symbolism what does it mean to
you okay who what is a black man okay
well maybe all black represents evil
black represents wickedness or whatever
and that's what it represented to me the
gun the gun and in bullets and shooting
usually represents God gossip and
slander painted that picture that there
was evil gossip and slant slander the
gun was futuristic so it would come
later it was something that was to come
I don't know what the bombs were exactly
but they were strategically placed in
strategic things that would happen the
church blew up and and the people ran to
another church and quite literally the
church had something happen through
gossip and slander
they had a fallout they had a blow-up
and then people literally went to the
other church and it was a lot of people
overwhelming amount of people to pass
the left and people went started going
to the other church and I really feel
like prophetically like if I was to meet
with the past
if I was to talk with an elder or
somebody that we can one pray against it
you pray about everything pray against
it or deal with the confrontation okay
listen address it hey is some slander we
got to get to the bottom of some things
some people are you know prophetically
release it okay there's some people here
you're thinking about leaving people
have spoken evil against you people
don't believe in you I want to tell you
you're at the right spot God has a plan
for you here
and you that's how the church works
biblically there's not no one-man show
like hey how you doing I'm the pastor
I'm the pastor to preach you to teach
you to prophet the evangelists and the
Apostle like I'm all of it in one how're
you doing no that's not the church the
church is a body of people who come
together and within that body there are
different members there are different
functions there's people who are better
at other things than other people are
some people are better at getting those
dreams some people are better at fasting
and going to the woods and coming back
with the vision other people can help
you unpack that vision other people can
help facilitate that vision once the
people can have the vision unpack it
somebody can make it plain and write it
down and bring people together and see
how we can execute this vision bring it
into reality and as a team of people
that exist to do that it's no it's no
one-man show run from those people run
from that leader who claims to be the
leader your teacher I'm your teacher you
listen to me now the Holy Spirit is your
teacher that's his name that's his name
the Holy Spirit his name is teacher he
will lead you teach you guide you into
all truth I'm not gonna lead you into
nothing that's the Holy Spirit I can
talk about these things so I'm blue in
the face which I do and which I have but
until the Holy Spirit reveals it to you
you're not gonna get any of it you might
just like you to have your ears tickled
or whatever it is
but it's the Holy Spirit that reveals an
idea and a concept to you I thoroughly
believe that different levels you can in
and we graduate from God uses teachers
God uses me God uses weirdos and whoever
you
pastor and the people you don't like
anymore like God used him while you were
there
you needed them you needed that for that
season for that reason God needed it you
needed it and God used it just like God
using this podcast now for you I don't
know how long I'll be with you you're
here now you're learning you're applying
you're doing the research things are
happening you know that's how it is it's
a body of believers a body of Christ
that we all come together Christian or
not I don't I don't think that that's a
it's that that that wording that
terminology that phrasing is definitely
a Christian thing I've told you my
infatuation with the flower of life and
what that means about the body and we're
all interconnected in lock s in like a
silicon I am you you were me I am
another you you were another me
everything that you're everything that
you're doing to me you're really doing
to yourself everything that you see in
me is the apparition of something that
you don't like within yourself we're
dealing with that so we address that so
it may sound Christian it may sound
Christian ease you can apply that but
it's I think this stuff is universal for
anything to be true it's got to be
universal
it's got to be universal it has it
doesn't give a damn about your
terminology and your phrasing and the
way that you articulated in the names
you put on it it's universal it's it's
universal if it's a principle now if you
want to brand it and you want to call it
this you know in this exists with
everything we talk about the spiritual
gifts in the Bible I'm telling you you
can break down those spiritual gifts in
the Bible a lot better than listening to
prophetic teachers you can break down
that stuff by simply learning what ESP
is extrasensory perception clairvoyance
clairaudience klara sentience or you can
use your senses to discern spirits
that's how you're gonna have to do it
and you could do it a lot better so to
say that anyone has the market or has
the corner on that they're lying nobody
owns nothing
at all we're just expressions of that
we're just grateful grateful that we get
to experience it that we get to feel a
little bit of it like we want to feel
something and and through it we feel
like we own it we feel like we belong
which we do but nobody owns it I don't
own anything when I die this stuff is
gone like I don't know I don't even
physically own anything I don't even own
my body my body is not mine but my body
belongs to the most high in his power in
Christ I'm crucified but Christ that it
is no longer I that live but Christ that
liveth in me there's power in that
there's truth in that I don't own this
he owns it he gave it to me he'll take
it away
bless him hey that's the end of this
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