Jordan Maxwell On UFOs, Aliens and The Historical Jesus And His Connection To Astrotheology
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Jordan Maxwell what's going on my
brother how are you well I think okay
for the moment
77 years old I just had a birthday a
couple days ago so but I'm doing pretty
good considering everything well good to
be back on the on the air with you happy
belated definitely oh thank you it's
good to see you good spirits you know
what every time we do a podcast you know
how about you know how to get the people
riled up man it's something about having
a controversial show which sometimes
just walking on eggshells but I found
out that controversy sells like that's
what the people want to hear what is it
about Jordan Maxwell that always brings
forth the controversy well I think it's
because I I have always always even as a
kid I've always gravitated toward the
secrets the dark stuff that nobody knows
and nobody wants to talk about and even
as a kid I would ask questions of adults
that made them very uncomfortable they
don't want to talk about these kind of
things and in even my mother used to say
well those are not subjects that polite
people talk about polite company and I
said well then let's just assume I'm
impolite I want to know I'm questioning
the integrity of everything I want to
know what God is of what God isn't and
what the government is and where the
money comes from and who's running the
show and so I you know I started off on
the bottom and I kind of worked my way
down from there and so I've always been
controversial because that's the way I
think I mean III always look at the dark
side of everything I mean you see a
beautiful marriage taking place and all
the people are happy but I'm you know
I'm looking at the next 20 years let's
see what's gonna happen yeah and so and
so and then when you see a pretty girl
or a handsome young man
you know outwardly they're very handsome
a beautiful until you talk with them and
then you find out that there's nothing
upstairs at all I have no idea in the
world what they're doing and their life
is going to be a tragedy I could tell by
the way they're talking and things
they're saying I could tell they have no
idea what's going on in the world and so
I've always kind of tended to look at
the dark side of everything and now all
I can truthfully tell you after doing it
for some 58 years everything has a dark
side and and so you need to wake up and
discover the world you live in it's not
what you think it is and there's there's
a lot of good but far far more evil far
far more deception and there are good
people doing good things and I and I
appreciate that but there's a lot of a
lot of dark stuff going on in the world
today and I think the people waking up
to that fact you know it's not all which
is not like like George Carlin said
about the people who run the planet it
says a big club and you mean in it even
if you think you're smart you're not
you're not in it and so I have my own
viewpoints on on subjects but I have
discovered that in religion and
government and commerce and life in
general nothing is what you think it is
there's always another part of the story
you were told and and so that's true in
banking and commerce and business and
why you know why people get in trouble
in business is because they don't know
what they're doing they don't know what
the words mean they you know so that's
what I do or I try I purposely try to
not
and anyone because that's not my purpose
is to offend but what I want to do is to
catch people's attention yeah and and
and then once you've got their attention
explain to them how the world really
works and it doesn't work the way you
think it does there you find that you go
like Apostle Paul with the Apostle Paul
say have I become your enemy because I
tell you the truth exactly and and so I
believe that the New Testament story in
the Bible the story the basic story of
Jesus in the New Testament I believe
based on my work that I have all they've
been looking at it for 58 years but but
I'm sure they're I'm onto something I
believe the New Testament is a metaphor
I think it's a symbolic story and it's
well developed in symbolism and and and
if you don't understand the symbols and
what the different people and the
different places represent in the
symbology then you're never going to
really get the real story of the New
Testament you're going to take the New
Testament as history and if you take it
as history then you're really going to
be confused and that's exactly what's
happening today in Christianity all over
the earth is nothing but confusion the
eastern part of the world Eastern and
Greek and Russian Orthodox are do not
see things the same way the Roman
Catholic Church does the Protestants and
the Western world don't see the things
that the church does so there's all
kinds of confusion and chaos and so I'm
saying that the reason why this
confusion and chaos in religion in
government in commerce and everything
else in life is because you don't
understand the symbols you don't know
what's going on here so you are you know
not you but I'm talking to the world
you're like a a naive young man going in
to a Las Vegas casino and you sit down
at the table and and you get ready to
play the game and before you know it
you're out of the game they just took
everything you own you know you ran out
of money and they asked you to leave
yeah and you're thinking what happened I
just sat down I lost everything well
because you don't know how to play the
game didn't study the rules you don't
know what the rules of this game are so
that's why I get in trouble because I do
try and awake people and you know make
them aware of how much they don't know
the rules I think for the I think for
the young man sitting on at the table
you trying to tap them on the shoulder
say hey come read this manual before you
sit down at the big boys table go play
some slot machines or something like
that that's it down with these Devils
right here yeah and then we just sit
down with them here's what they gotta
say you gonna say this this and that but
that's not what they mean yeah you know
so so true the whole sleight of hand
even even with the car dealers and all
that stuff that that that whole analogy
is perfect Jordan maybe before we went
live I showed you my new shirt that I
had made yeah Hall - yep you know I'm
saying the man of mystery great teacher
you were talking a little bit about how
he left you some of his work and how you
miss him and how he was a great mentor
yeah it was a wonderful wonderful man I
myself just my opinion but I think he
was probably one of the greatest
teachers this world has ever known in
any era of time one of the great masters
of knowledge and wisdom and education
that's ever lived on this earth and I
mean going back into the gated Grecian
Empire the Grecian Roman Empire and all
the great minds of the philosophical
teachers of the world III know about so
much of that history I cannot
in my mind anyone who comes close to the
work of manly Parma Hall he was an
incredibly brilliant man and he never
promoted any particular religious belief
he never particularly never promoted any
particular philosophical or political
viewpoint at all
what Manley P Hall did was nothing short
of phenomenal
he taught everyone about every religion
and concept and philosophy in the whole
world as a master I don't care what it
is and from China to Japan to Africa to
any country in the world any nation any
race creed or color any belief system
any religion he was a master in all of
it
what an incredible and credible man he
was and he was a dear friend of mine
and I learned so much from him and I
learned humility from him because for
being such an incredible teacher he was
always very humble and very quiet and
very you know just a wonderful wonderful
teacher and I learned a lot from him the
world could learn a lot if they just
settle down and listen to the old man
you know there's this I don't know
there's hundreds of hours Bently p hong
on the web and talking and people could
just sit and listen to him and just be
amazed at the brilliance of this man's
mind and I know more about him than most
people I could tell you a lot about
mainly be hald that but anyway I just
always loved him I've always respected
everything he does and he's gone now but
his work is still with us and you didn't
see it on go on the web anybody
listening could go on the web to Manly
ma and ly p hall h al and go on to
youtube and just type in Manly p hall
and listen to him
you tell me if he's not the most
incredible that you ever heard I love
him because he like you said he doesn't
teach it like he's trying to teach
community or Buddhism and Daoism or
whatever but he simply acts as a
historian telling you what they all
believe in how they all kind of seem to
run together and essentially essentially
lets you choose I have a lot of people
that say Manley P Hall teaches this and
he teaches that either he doesn't vote
for any of it he presents it and say hey
this is what they believed how does that
apply to you right yeah I and he would
say and he would say if you want to talk
about Buddhism then understand it
correctly it's not that simple
and then he would go into two hours of
explaining all of the different kinds of
Buddhism and what each one taught and
each one believes and where it came from
and where they got their ideas from he's
not promoting it if you gotta believe
something well here rest of the story
you didn't know and so I'm just amazed
what he was able to do and especially I
was very much impressed with his astral
theology series his like about seven I
think it's seven 90-minute lectures he
did and he called it astral theology and
what it was as he explained where all of
the beliefs and Christianity and Judaism
have come from and the ancient and
prehistoric ancient world the the belief
systems that finally became known as
Judaism and Christianity where did those
ideas belief systems words in terms and
symbols come from where did it all
actually be yet going back to the very
beginning you know millenniums ago
thousands and thousands of years ago
where did religion start and where did
it come from and what a masterful job he
did without you
was startling to anybody who has an open
mind and remember your mind is like a
parachute don't work if it's done open
yeah but if you've got an open mind and
you really want to know go on the web to
Manley P Hall and look up astral
theology and it's like about seven or
eight hours where he explains the whole
of world religions where it comes from
what it all means so yeah he was a
wonderful man and I loved him greatly
and and yeah when he passed away he left
me his research journals it was a
priceless priceless a collection of all
of his work of his life he left to me
you said in any light on how he passed
I've read different things online that
he was taken out and that there was
different things done to him do you have
any knowledge on his final hours I
thought I did I thought I did because I
was told by people on the inside who
knew I know something about man if he
holds death and from what I gathered
about what the story is is two or three
of them out there each one's different
but the bottom line on all three stories
is a saying he was murdered he was
killed and and so but he was like I
don't know in his 90s I guess yeah is
still going beautiful brilliant mind
even at 90 years old he was dazzling the
audiences with his lectures because he
could talk about the ancient sumerians
the ancient Egyptians the Babylonians
the ancient Chinese dynasties what they
believed why they believed it and what
they taught and you know and just it was
just a magnificent teacher and I'm
delighted that all of his work is still
out there on on YouTube because people
don't know about him so I'm trying to
make a where go as listen to Manley P
hall you know you won't be amazed at
what you would discover
what's the oh it's the oldest Manley P
Hall book that you have I love
collecting his old his old work oh yeah
yeah I had I had his all-seeing eye book
I can't remember I've got so much of his
stuff and yeah yeah but it was all very
very fascinating and the one thing I
liked about him too is that on his
lectures and and and in his writings and
on his lectures he always started right
on the hour you know and his church or
his little group he'd always start right
on the hour and exactly 90 minutes to
the second he would end it and it would
be a perfectly beautiful lecture on some
subject some religions and philosophy
that he would start exactly on time and
exactly ninety minutes later he came to
the end and it was perfectly beautifully
presented and I've often wonder how in
the world because he put together a
beautiful flowing a mind trip on
education and have it in appropriately
perfectly right on time each time now
was he reading a lot of that stuff away
I'm just going off the top Wow this
going off the top of this many hours
upon hours the powers that out an hour
hundreds and hundreds of hours and I
used to go to a lectures all the time on
Sundays on Sundays he would have a you
know a big meeting like at a meeting
hall and he would come out his old man
and he would come out and they'd sit him
down and a big a big huge chair on the
stage and put the microphone up for him
and he's just an old man and there's no
notes there's nothing and he would sit
there and dazzle audiences with
brilliant stuff people have never heard
the kind of things that that he was
talking about he was explaining the
Bible of where it came from who wrote it
and the Quran who actually wrote it and
what it is actually saying not what you
thought it was they
and and the and the depth of insight
into philosophies of religions he was
magnificent
I can't say enough I think I think I
heard your timer go off I know you was
waiting on some food I don't know if
it's that time yeah that's one yeah it
could be though let me go check it I'll
be right back gotta take it for a minute
definitely manly P Hall I've dedicated
my music to his works the first couple
albums that I put out
manly P Hall was on the intro and as
well as in the credits and things like
that so it's an honor to talk to Jordan
Maxwell about manly P Hall because it's
manly P house work that inspired me to
create it and to do what I'm doing and
then Jordan Maxwell as well whenever I
was kind of having second thoughts about
the esoterics and disbelief systems but
it was through conversations with Jordan
Maxwell that encouraged me to keep
headed in this direction so it's just a
privilege to talk to Jordan about about
manly as well both of these guys are
just like heroes in our book you guys if
you guys don't know if you got some new
to my to Jordan's work Jordan is
essentially by my recognition and a lot
of other people's not his own he's
pretty much the Godfather of esoterics
as you know it now in America with
everybody who has podcast everybody
who's in the lecture of circuits they've
all are expounding upon the work of
Jordan Maxwell so it's just a pleasure
to have you here with me again well
thank you for that I appreciate that
yeah I I started doing the public
lectures back in 1959 that's 58 years
ago on religions on political movements
of the world and how the banks work and
how government works and and the whole
incredible social order that the human
race lives under we don't understand and
and I've been trying to wake people up
to all the darkness that's around the
world that we're not aware
when you start to find out how the world
really works and what America really is
huh I Dick Gregory used to say you
better find out what it really is
he was the truth oh yeah I mean he was
sensational
yeah and I was a very good friends with
dick we used to do shows together I was
on the stage with him and sometimes he
would introduce me sometimes I
introduced him and but we we've been on
panels together and I loved Dick Gregory
because he was so incredibly right on
target and everything but it was funny
with it yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it
that that's a big thing now because
there's people who they see the like the
spiritual leaders or the people who
present themselves as spiritual leaders
of our day even in the esoteric circuits
and how they're they're all poised and
they're all dressed really nice and
fancy and they're always spiritual but
then there's people who like to tell
jokes they like to laugh they like to
see a room of people laugh and they're
still spiritual and they're spiritual
leaders and gurus as well and people are
fighting within themselves to what how
much of themselves should they let the
audience see that they're just a normal
person just like them can you talk a
little bit about that yeah that is very
true that's I I have I have said so many
times on our interviews and lectures
I've done around the world I always try
and start off by saying that I am NOT
the world's foremost authority on
anything I'm smart enough to know how
much I don't know
and so I'm then an authority on anything
and I say I feel better to say that I'm
just an ordinary man pursuing
extraordinary knowledge I fascinated
with wisdom and knowledge and they
hidden the hidden story of the world we
live in wanted to ask you because with
2018 there's some some news that that I
you you have you've been working with
some people you work with
a TV talked a little bit about that I
know you have one interview that's out
was George Noory and you just got done
with a pretty big meeting with those
guys let's just talk a little bit about
that because they're like one of the
main sources of people who are putting
out alternative news and spirituality
and stuff like that and are they gonna
back you yes working together yeah yep
we're working together as a matter of
fact I'm doing my first show with them
on on Monday this coming Monday on the
8th I'm doing a half hour show on Gaia
and that will begin a whole series of
shows I'm going to be doing over the
over the next period and so I'm living
here now in Boulder Colorado and the
office is only about about six blocks
from me and so I'm very happy to be here
with them but I I need to say that I've
had my own radio show about seven times
in my life I used to do a morning talk
show for about three hours in Las Vegas
and then also I also have a late-night
talk show in Las Vegas also I used to do
a late-night talk show in Los Angeles on
like ABC affiliate and I was on KPFK and
many other stations so I've done a lot
of radio over the years and in stations
and I I've always got the same problem
I'm always getting shut off or shut down
and and people lose the they lose the
feed and I know what it is because I'm
talking about things that are the people
who own us and who control us and who
own us don't want me talking and I and I
know why they don't want people hearing
what I have to say but I'm not out
looking for trouble and not out trying
to harm or anyone or offend anyone but
it's so
the truth many times offends people and
it really offends government government
as government has an agenda and the
agenda is very simple and not hard to
understand they are in the position of
power to control and they damn well want
to stay there in control and they don't
want to hear anybody who's got the mind
to understand who they are and what they
are doing they don't want that person
talking anywhere period and so so many
good people that were very knowledgeable
and had important things to share with
with the world ended up dead
assassinated or the wheel fell out their
car and then the whole family would died
so assassinations and and those kind of
things happen to people who are on the
front line of trying to help their
fellow man understand what's going on
because the government's do not want you
knowing what they are doing
period and even more so is that true of
religion churches religions synagogues
the mosque all of these major religions
of the world are not interested in you
shooting your mouth off and telling
people what they're really doing they
don't they're not interested for you to
go out there and spoil their game
they've got a whole they got a whole
show they're putting on and if you
happen to know what's really going on
behind the scenes and you go out and
start talking about what the synagogue
is really doing not what you thought was
doing and what the church is actually up
to that you didn't know anything about
at all believe me that's when you are
starting to get on peoples nerves
because there's a story out there about
who owns us and who controls us
and where our country came from and
where we're going it is a very very
powerful and frightening story when you
know how big this operation of running
the world really is and when you start
to find out how this world really works
then you begin to get in trouble because
now you're talking about things you're
not supposed to know and you're not
supposed to talk about so I've been
talking about these things for years so
I just do the best I can we're trying to
help people to understand the world they
live in and so I get cut off quite a bit
on radio I've lost radio shows because
the the the station's just dropped B
immediately and I was told you're not
talking on our station about the stuff
you talk about no thank you
why not it's true every baby sure but
you're not going in and I got talk on
this station about it I want the
difference you can't handle the truth
right that's it that's it I want the
truth you can't handle the truth the
truth is about what you think it is
Oh anyway that's who I am that's what I
do and that's what I caused people who
get here this show I think I think I
think they know what they're getting
into with Jordan Maxwell now so if they
approached you hopefully they know what
they're getting into you're not gonna
pull a rabbit I'll have you know what
you see is what you get with Jordan
that's right you guys came to meet idea
all right that's that you know and so or
but I really appreciate their kindness
they've been extraordinarily kind and
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seen all my life as well people who you
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that stuff there's some questions here
about UFOs they asking like when's the
last time you saw a UFO people are
really blown away by your UFO stories
but I guess a little bit deeper is the
government just released some footage of
this a fighter pilot following a some
type of craft a UFO whatever it is
did you happen to see that footage that
no III haven't seen a lot of other stuff
it's been all over the news and it's
it's funny it's funny cuz they're like
okay we admit that we've secretly been
investigating them
you know the UFO phenomena well it's
about time it's about time yeah
I don't I don't I don't want to hear
their explanation though I don't I don't
think we can trust what they tell us
they are if they come out and say hey
they're a threat from you know from a
distant galaxy or another planet I'm not
gonna trust that I think disclosure is
happening I mean you've had tons of
encounters I have to by listening to
your work and you're talking about your
encounters I've went out under the stars
by myself meditate it and just tried to
make contact and I've had amazing
life-changing encounters with craft with
beings out there in the stars man that's
where disclosure is happening that's
right
as it's out there and eventually it
doesn't matter what government wants it
doesn't matter what government wishes
period whatever is out there is bigger
than your government and it will make
itself known when it chooses to and it
hasn't got nothing to do with you or me
somebody else is out there obviously
we've known that for a long time the the
Pharaohs of Egypt knew and all the
ancient cultures of the world talked
about and wrote about and and talked
about the extraterrestrial life-forms
that are out there and they're coming
here of that there is no doubt in my
mind no doubt in my mind that we are
being visited by alien life-forms from a
long time ago
and people want to say that okay well
what if it's just advanced government
technology what if it's back engineered
craft that you're seeing a lot of times
with these sightings comes telepathic
communication well they transmute a
thought back to you I strongly distilled
us here they've been watching over us
for a long time if they want it to
destroy us they were
have been done it they've been watching
over absolutely wrong man
and that's why I've even said today to
the people who visit me today that every
single culture that has ever existed on
this earth from Alaskans to Russians to
Chinese the Africans Asians every single
group and culture on the earth period
now and in the thousands of years in the
past it's very important to think about
this every culture in the world has the
talk and talked about the aliens the
gods who came here from another place
the gods the UFO the alien life-forms
and Christianity we call it God in the
Angels well where is God well God's out
there even a kid would tell you if you
ask him where is God well God's out
there well then that means if a God's
out there he's extraterrestrial he's not
from Alabama so he's out there and that
means he's an extraterrestrial do you
believe in angels in spirits and angels
yes well where are angels well they're
out there with God
oh there's other other living organisms
out there was God out there
yeah well if it's out there is
extraterrestrial so every religion on
the face of the earth every philosophy
has always talked about the gods the the
alien life-forms that are in the
universe that will come here we call
them aliens demons Devils angels sons of
God yeah and Anunnaki and go down the
line and all the ancient cultures
everybody knew about it except Americans
we don't know for nothing it has to hit
us in the face before we will admit it
but just keep in mind the reason white
government and churches do not admit the
obvious is because the whole system that
controls us on the earth is government
and religion holding hands as
it's the two hands that control the
human race on the earth government
religion and so these are one of those
hands want you button in and telling
people what's really going on because
now it's bad for business
yeah no they got to get rid of you
because you're waking people up yeah and
that that's why that's why the churches
have the backlash to when you start
speaking the truth in churches and
talking about doctrine and dogma and and
the truth about the scriptures and stuff
like that and and you're in that midst
of people trying to do it you're bad for
business I would do the same thing like
if like if you try if you tried to take
away from my livelihood that's what
you're doing you're taking away from
their livelihood when you do that that's
exactly right you got to get out of
there your threat they gotta get you
that's right because if you let him stay
here your name's gonna be all over town
and you're not gonna you're not gonna do
anything nobody's gonna hire you nobody
wants to work with you nobody wants to
have anything to do with you why cuz
everybody knows who you really are and
what you're really doing and so that's
just bad for business and that's the
name of the tomb was government is a
business that's why all churches are in
denominations
you know like twenties and fifties
hundreds yeah
churches are in denominations and
government is in business the whole
governmental system in the world today
is a business and and we could talk
about that for hours but it's a really
interesting story about how governments
govern their people and you know for
instance you think if you're in the u.s.
today you think you're in the United
States of America you're not in the
United States of America there is no
United States of America it does not
exist legally or lawfully on the earth
you are now living if you're in North
America and living below Canada you're
not in the United States of America
sorry go back into your homework America
is
no longer the 1776 Republic that was
founded back in 1776 that was done away
with officially in 1870 after the Civil
War the United States was a lot of
things but not United after the Civil
War we were not United what half the
country was killing the other half and
we made a lot of enemies both north and
south
and so we were a lot of things in 1870
but United was not one of them so what
are you going to do after the Civil War
because there's half the countries
killed the other half and we're not and
we don't have any friendly feelings of
between each other in the north and
south and there was a terrible bloody
war but now that the war is finally over
what are we going to do with the country
what was I going to do how we're going
to run the country because we're not
United and so it was decided that we
would that the people who had the money
the wealthy people who ran the place
they decided to instead of having a
country they would now make it into a
company a corporation like Sears like
Exxon and the oil companies and big
corporations United States today as a
company as a corporation it was
incorporated in Delaware so it's pretty
much a privately owned company or
corporation and so today if you are a US
citizen that does not mean that you're
from the United States of America
that's USA but you will not see us a to
many places anymore you'll see you asked
the u.s. did this in the US did that
look and find out that u.s. is a
privately owned company as a Municipal
Corporation and so it's owned by owners
so the United States is a corporation
and if you are working for the
corporation you're a citizen of the
United States
and but once you understand that that
that opens up a whole can of worms as to
other words in terms that we use because
at the United States today is one
corporation one company then if you come
into this country and into this land
without paperwork and then you are
illegal because you are coming into a
corporation that didn't hire you they
didn't hire you but we found you and the
Ford Ford Motor Company found you and
their warehouse one night and you don't
work for Ford so what are you doing here
if you don't work for for it so they put
you under arrest and so the idea is that
if you come into this what you think
it's a country it's not a country it's a
corporation and if you come in here and
start working and making money and you
are undocumented they don't know who you
are then they are going to the company
can put a mechanic's lien on you
mechanic's lien simply means if I paint
your house and you don't pay me I can
put a lien on the property and that
means that you have to pay me before you
could do anything because I put a lien
on your property well that's what
happens when the corporation called
United States finds out that you are
here from Mexico or from South America
and you haven't registered and they're
not making money off of you then they
put a lien on you that's called
mechanic's lien and so you become known
as an alien no it's not a lien they put
a lien on you and becomes a lien a a
lien and so it all has to do with
Commerce banking business the whole
world is a business mr. Beale
if you'll remember that in the movie
Network many many many years ago movie
network and the head of the network
was telling the newsman if you watched a
movie the whole world is a corporation a
company we do business around the world
as just business and has it got nothing
to do which will America be in the land
of the free and the home of the brave
because you ain't free or brave you got
a got a question here but take some of
these questions in the chat the phone
lines aren't up anymore since the
computer shut down but this is from a
friend of mine of Adam Starseed Bay it
says question from Maxwell do you have
any info or theories on why Antarctica
is such a hot spot for ETS in history
and article well first of all if there
has been if there has been a pole shift
and and from what I've heard from
scientists who have said yes we've had
pole shifts in the past maybe millions
of years ago but they have happened well
the pole shift simply means that if
you're living on the equator today as
it's hot and humid because that's the
equator but if the magnetic poles of the
earth change then north and south north
and southern North Pole and South Pole
are going to be humid they're going to
be jungles and the equator is going to
be freezing cold and because the whole
life of the earth has been changed
around so the heart becomes freezing
cold and what was freezing cold is
melted and becomes a jungle it's called
a pole ship well I'm saying if there was
a pole shift maybe as Zecharia Sitchin
and many other writers have talked about
that there were aliens actual other
world aliens who came here and they
obviously picked a warm spot on the
earth to land and so they probably had a
whole network of life-forms that were
here hundreds of millions of years ago
and then there was a pole shift now it's
freezing so may
what we talked about the Antarctica be a
freezing of solid frozen and North Pole
maybe it wasn't frozen you know two
million years ago five hundred thousand
years ago and maybe there were
life-forms here from other worlds and
maybe today if you go down there
government's not gonna let you go down
there and it's our international laws
you can't go down there let's say it'll
allow you to and so I'm thinking that
there is something going on down there
there has to do with other life-forms
that are on this earth and there's no
doubt in my mind that there is in fact
the life-forms on this earth which are
not from here that I am totally
convinced that what's your relationship
with caesarian because I know he speaks
highly of you and talks about how you
kind of prepped him up and kind of
trained him up and what he's doing now
yeah yeah Michael is a sweetheart
Michael's always been a very very kind
and very very supportive dear friend
Michael cesarean and he is absolutely
awesome he's a very brilliant mind very
very smart guy and he's done a lot of
research on the world we live in and and
and he used to come to my lectures many
years ago and afterwards he and I would
go out for lunch or dinner or whatever
and I've always admired him because he's
extraordinarily articulate spokesman for
the alternative viewpoint of the world
and so yeah I like Michael very much and
and he's very smart guy he talks about
like a lot of the into ancient paintings
and stuff we see the these different
serpents and he's et looking beings
walking around town in the ancient
artwork and that these these beings were
known by the people back in the day do
you know any anything about that yes if
you go back to the Bible in the book of
Genesis Genesis 1 and 2 it's really all
the way up to like Genesis 19 from
Genesis the first chapter to 19 chapter
is just filled with stuff talking about
the extra-terrestrial
who came here I remember talking was a
very famous a very well-known famous
rabbi in America many many years ago
knocking at the back in his 60s mid-60s
and he was saying that there there he
told me no place in the Bible especially
in the Old Testament no place does it
say God created man and there's no
scripture that says that so the church
teaches that God created us but no
that's not what the scripture says and
there's no places or that there that
says God created us at all and then I of
course asked about what what does it say
it christianity will show you in the
Genesis 1 the first chapter and it was
the godless Son and Holy Spirit created
every yeah yeah and then I don't know no
that's Jewish that's Old Testament there
ain't no father's like Holy Spirit and
the Jewish world oh you better go back
and do your homework on what that word
means and so but but the scripture says
and the Christians will tell you God
created man why where does it say that
and so I said that to the rabbi and I
said because in Genesis 1:28 God says
come let us make man in our image after
our likeness and then Christians will
say there it is right there God said
come let us make man the rabbi said no
no you're reading it wrong go back and
read the sentence correctly what is
being said is God said come let us who's
us
who's us if God says come let us would
you talk about us now God said come let
us make man in our image after our
likeness he's already here but let's
make him look like us
let's make him be like us so let's cross
our DNA
this creature we call the the
Neanderthal creature are the ancient
ancient hominids that we all know
existed as we see you know we see their
their their skeletal remains so we know
there was an ancient ancient creature
that looked like us a little bit and
walked on two feet but they weren't us
well that's what the Bible says God says
come let us whoever that is let us make
man in our image after our likeness
because he's already here but let's
change him and make him look like us and
so he did he created man and then later
on a couple a couple of chapters later
God said to whoever is us whoever the us
is God said now look what you have done
look what we have done we have created
man in our image and our likeness and
now he is able to do all kinds of things
now he's able to do mathematics and
science and there's nothing he can't do
there's nothing he can't do so now he's
become like us knowing good and evil now
he's become like us knowing what's
really going on so see what you've done
you've you taken this creature this
hominid creature this Neanderthal man
and woman and you have bred into them
our DNA and logo by little by little it
starts changing that creature until one
day we come into the world with lasers
and beautiful music and and rockets and
all kinds of incredible knowledge and
technology where did we get it we got it
from the gods the gods are and the Bible
is called the Elohim the gods who came
here and said let us make man like us
after after our likeness
so I'm saying today we humans look like
the guy
who created us that's exactly what the
Bible is saying most people I have no
idea in the world what those words
really mean in the Bible because they
don't do their outward yeah when you
when you let the scriptures interpret
themselves with themselves versus kind
of skipping ahead with the whole father
son Holy Spirit thing I did you know
they have to have a reasoning for
something like they have to have an
explanation and that's totally not who
that is talking there you find out like
I said Genesis 18 and 19 when the US
came down and a incepted with Abraham
and his wife and then the other two
angels went to a Sodom and Gomorrah to
judge the city these were the beings
that created us they and the people and
the people in Sodom and Gomorrah said
that they were good-looking men em en
not angels not demons no good-looking
handsome men and and when and when God
comes in - in the story in 18 Genesis 18
Abraham and Sarah are in their tent and
three men come walking up and Abraham
goes out and crawls on his falls down
and says what is my Lord saying to his
servant and and he said and the Lord
said take your shoes off the very ground
you're on is holy why cuz I'm here I'll
take your shoes off and remember who you
were in front of and then Abraham asked
him to stay for dinner
he's gonna fix him dinner and they said
no they don't have time you know I'm
fine and so then he insists him that
they stay for it for a quick sandwich or
something and so the they said thank God
still okay we'll make it quick and so
Sarah fixes dinner for them very quickly
and the scripture says in Genesis 18
that Abraham and Sarah said under the
tree with the three men and they all had
dinner together and then two men got up
and says after dinner well we have to go
we have to go but the but the one who
was a spokesman for the three
that his name was in all capital letters
lol Ord was in all capital letters which
means in Hebrew will tell you that that
was the God the God the main creator and
he had with him two angels or two
associates you know those two yeah well
those two associates went on into Sodom
and Gomorrah and the men of the town
said that they saw these two men and
they were very handsome good-looking men
what does that tell you if the guard
comes walking into the camp and all
three of them are men and they sit down
to have dinner with you and then the the
people in the other city they went to
said they were good-looking handsome men
it's telling you that whoever created us
we look like them now we didn't look
like them in the beginning but they came
here and said come let us make man in
our image after our likeness so what am
I saying
it's appearing that in the Bible the
heavens are filled with other life forms
and they look like us and if that's true
then maybe they are so smart we didn't
find them they found us we can't go
there because we're not smart enough but
they could come here and for us to say
all was too far they would never find us
it's too far out no no it's too far for
you cuz you have a brain that a head
it's not too far for someone who drives
a Maserati and it was a there's a damn
genius intellectually superior to you
and as a human and it's been around his
his life form has been around for five
million years he knows more about the
universe and you're ever gonna hope to
know and he knows how to find you he
knows how to find life in the universe
you don't but he does and then if he
wants to he can come here you can't go
there you can't even fly you know from
one place to another without trouble he
can come here from other worlds that are
far
far away hundreds of light-years away
why cuz he knows where you are he knows
how to find you yeah and he looks like
you and that's a scary process that's
what description tells us in now Hebrews
that I that you know to be courteous to
strangers because some of you have
entertained angels unaware didn't even
know it well where that's what the
Apostle Paul said the Apostle Paul said
be always be hospitable to all men for
some have entertained angels unaware
meaning always be careful when you're
talking to us someone talking to another
man because the gods who created us
created us to look like them and
therefore they could still be here on
the earth and they look like men yeah
well you made a mistake though guy you
were talking to yesterday it was not a
regular man you have no idea who he is
and where he's come from and so that's
why there are certain people today that
are extraordinarily gifted and can do
things we can't do and was white because
they're not from here they're not like
you you just happen to look like them in
your a body form and you look like them
they look like you but there's that's
the same you are not like them where
they've come from they are they present
themselves to you and you see them as
God or you better see them as God
because they are far superior to you
just like the people didn't indeed and
the ancient orient when when the Second
World War when America would fly in all
their big jets and all that big planes
with supplies and food and everything in
the islands and and and Malaysia and
those islands the US or setting up their
forts and the people had never seen
Americans they'd never have seen an
airplane or a jet those big bombers
they'd never seen that and so they
assumed that these strange creatures
that kind of look like us a little bit
but they come in our great spaceships
and come here what fooling okay no it's
just the Americans yeah yeah the
technology so far above their heads that
they think we're gods let them think
what they want so we feed them a little
cookies and bread and give them some
yeah we give them some trinkets and some
rings and jewelry and they just think
we'll Oh wonderful gods who have come
here from another world
well yeah well it's another world we
live in LA it's not like Borneo but then
you know you have on the other hand I
know it's kind of controversial some of
the other tribes who when they see a
white person they instinctually get
scared and so this is the devil
everywhere you go you're causing
confusion you're you're poisoning the
water you're polluting the air we can't
drink the water it's so there's these
other trials away in the woods where
they see a white person they think it's
Satan himself
yeah you know yeah and then if I'm
talking to a bus yeah I think you're
right is that interesting too close
right the cargo cargo closest is very
interesting and it's crazy that I think
there's a documentary out there I don't
know if it's tour if it's real is that
footage real or is that a remake I'm not
sure which one you're talking about but
there's been many documentaries talking
about this subject of the the gods that
created us our God that created us looks
exactly like us and so it says that and
the Genesis it says that God walked and
talked with Adam and the cool of the
evening well the word walked and talked
with is a word in Hebrew which means
that you hear footsteps on leaves and
branches so when you can hear something
footsteps on the leaves and branches you
know somebody is there and somebody is
behind you you may not be able to see
them but if you're hearing branches
breaking leaves smashing you know
somebody's in the wood
they're watching you and they're
following you so that's what the
scripture says that God walked and
talked with Adam and the cool of the
evening was why because Adam could hear
somebody is walking with us hello we
have a question here also quote I guess
it's a comment but it kind of leads to a
question it says this is Carolyn talking
let's say I think we have another person
joining you dare Jordan okay Leo are you
there
no yeah no I can see you okay cool maybe
you have to call in again oh I'm trying
to join somebody to the video chat but
so she says one teacher opened my mind
when she said angels are energies but
when they come in to visit physicality
they can look like anything they want to
I guess it kind of reminds me of when
you said that prayer when you knew that
there was something out there watching
over you but you said please don't come
to me in the middle of the night as a
little gray being right and they can
change their shape as I guess at will
and appear however they want right well
we we have that kind of technology
ourselves nowadays we were on the
cutting edge of technology we have
recorders digital recorders we can
record the voices it's absolutely
flawlessly your voice as your
personality in that voice but it's just
a digital recording and then we there's
science right now that can replace body
parts you know and so it looks just like
you but it's not you and so we don't
know what technology aliens have from
another world that they've come from say
a hundred thousand light years away in
another galaxy and another time-space
continuum and they come here we don't
know what they are like we don't know
what they can do but you have to assume
logical to assume that
they're smaller than you are I mean if
they found you you didn't find them and
they came here and they're smart enough
to get here and go home you're not so
why it's kind of a scary proposition
when you start thinking about what the
Bible was saying about God cuz we look
like him
Lee are you there I am hello hello hey
you got you on with Jordan brother nice
hi Jordan oh nice to hear from you the
last time we all got together with Derek
what are we doing now do we lose him now
do you have a question leo or I do can
you hear me yeah Oh perfect there you go
so Jordan um I've been I've been itching
to ask you this question for a while and
it's it's a pleasure to have you live
right now doing this thank you
but I've been doing some research into
the mazzaroth and I was telling Derek
Matt I really like free to ask him if he
could clarify what the difference was
between the mazzaroth and the masses a
lot because from what I'm hearing is
that there's there's an understanding
that the mazzaroth were those who
believed in the astronomy and the
mozilla were those who believed in
astrology and I'm just kind of trying to
bring this all together but from the
standing is there are those who believe
in astrology those who believe in
astronomy and they're there Christians
who believe in the narrative that the
Bible has an unraveling story in the
stars of the coming of Jesus Christ and
that's what this this all means we
looked at this we look to the stars for
signs of the times and the the coming of
the second Adam was was that sign the
sign that Jesus Christ was to become the
second Adam but then there are both well
let me let me
yes the word mazzaroth appears in the
Bible in the Old Testament and it
appears in the oldest book in the Bible
this thing go oldest book in the Bible
his job job is the oldest book in all
Bible researchers and authorities will
tell you that's the oldest book in the
Bible's joke and in job the 38th chapter
of job and number then 38 31 31 can you
say it again
30:38 31 can you bind the chains of the
sky
can you bring forth the mazzaroth yes
that's correct but what I was going to
say is that mazzaroth all Bible
commentaries all Bible dictionaries and
encyclopedias will tell you all of them
say the same thing it's the mazzaroth is
the zodiac and let me explain to you how
this connects to the the the bullet am I
trying to say the kingdom of God we hear
about the kingdom of God all the time
and those Christians are working toward
the kingdom of God well first of all you
need to understand what's being said
with that term kingdom of God we humans
on the earth put all life forms into
categories the fish are in schools geese
are in flocks cattle are in herds dogs
are impacts lions are in prized you know
and so and fish are in schools so we
humans put animals and creatures into a
into a family life and then we give them
the term there's either school or a
Packer oh whatever
well what kind of creatures on the earth
do we humans put into a kingdom what
kind of creatures do we humans say are
in a kingdom yes animals the vote the
blockade the 12 signs the 12 apostles
the animal kingdom I agree yeah but my
point is we humans say that animals are
in a kingdom okay
animals are in a kingdom and not birds
animals and the reason why I'm saying
that is because animals are in a kingdom
and we are told to pray to God our
Father in Heaven that's a whole idea too
that we need to talk about why is God a
father well it's because there's a
reason why we call God the Father but
but we say that we want God's kingdom to
come into his will to be done on the
earth as it is in heaven
so what you're saying is that the that
the kingdom is a kingdom of animals
where do you find animals you find them
in a zoo so this is where we get the
word zodiac our zodiac zeo it comes from
the word zoo look it up in a dictionary
a zoo is where you find animals and
there's animals in the zodiac and so the
kingdom in heaven is the zodiac as the
animal kingdom and the zoo or zodiac and
so what you are doing when you pray the
Our Father prayer you see our Father in
heaven hallowed be thy name let your
kingdom come and let your will be done
on the earth as it is in heaven
well of course his will is in heaven if
we are under a Pisces whether you like
it or not we're going to have a Piscean
age and whatever Pisces represents
that's what's going to happen whether
you like it or not and if we are we
happen to be living under Taurus and the
constellation of Taurus one of the 12
signs of the zodiac
therefore 2150 years the world is going
to be living like Taurus so if you want
to know what's going to happen for the
next 2150 years yeah
study
yeah that's what you're gonna live to it
all the help thinking Kings twenty-three
thousand 150 years so the good could you
shine light on what second second Kings
23 five means when he said that he came
to do away with the adulteress priests
appointed by the kings of Judah who
burned incense on the high places of the
towns of Judah on those around Jerusalem
and those who were incensed to bail to
the Sun the moon to the constellations
and to the man's a lot my original
question I was trying to get information
on what the difference between the
mazzaroth and them as a lot were I hope
if I were you if I were you I would go
through the Jewish encyclopedia and look
up the two words and see what they have
to say and then men they Palma Hall has
done a couple of lectures on that
subject of mezzo la semana será
Katherine yes this pattern is very
simple the Sun the SU end that comes up
every morning the Sun is the basis for
your life if there was no Sun you would
not be here to start with there would
not be an earth with plants and animals
and and and food and the earth would not
be here it would be solid ice miles and
miles thick so their whole idea is that
the Sun represents life to humans and to
the world of mankind into the world of
living things the Sun is the reason why
you're here and if the Sun does not come
up that's what we say Jesus is God's Son
because the word Jesus comes from a
Greek word Iesus IES owe us and then
from a es or us you can extrapolate from
that je s on us and then and then we
drop it in Latin - Jes us or even Yosh
Yosh a meaning
here in the highest I think calling him
when he came into Jerusalem hosanna in
the highest yeah Anna could you
Jordan could you expand well I haven't
finished yet let me finish
oh I esis becomes Jesus and Jesus is
God's Son while you ask yourself who
owns the Sun there's Africa on it does
Russia on it know who owns the Sun that
comes up every morning well obviously
you don't own it and nobody on the earth
owns the Sun so theoretically we could
say that God owns the Sun it's in heaven
so God's Sun is in heaven with the
father and so he has 12 helpers which
only he has 12 apostles God's Sun is the
light of the world the Bible says Jesus
is the light of the world
so therefore God's son is the light of
the world well of course the Sun is the
light of the world what lights our world
if it's not the Sun and so they've Jesus
is God's Son he has 12 followers that's
right
12 months of the year the 12 signs of
the zodiac and consequently the the
whole kingdom of God is astrology but
the church does not want you knowing
that because it's a cult the word are
cult in people's mind is devil and
demons and all the dark stuff know the
word occult is a Latin word meaning
hidden so if you put your hand in your
pocket by dictionary definition your
hand is now on a cult pan because it's
hidden it doesn't mean it's evil or bad
it just means anything but just hidden
well let me tell you the one thing
that's been hidden more than anything
else is the truth and like the movie
says you know I want the truth you can't
handle the truth the real truth is that
God we understand is in the Stars as in
the planets as in what we call astrology
it's a whole world of knowledge has
never been
properly given to the people to
understand but it's now finally coming
out there's now that making movies and
now there's people like what Gaia Gaia
is coming out with incredible spiritual
intellectual superior lectures and
teachings and now what am I trying to
say documentaries
there's oh like 8000 documentaries on
all the hidden wisdom of the world that
Gaia is now making available to the
people of the world with all the top
writers speakers teachers astronauts
scientists all the most important people
on the planet are now coming to Gaia and
doing lectures on all of their work and
so Gaia is making it possible for people
all over the world to come to one place
they hear the best of the best from
everybody and so that's what yeah my my
my link to my website is Jordan Maxwell
show Jordan Maxwell show com if you go
to Jordan Maxwell show you will see one
of the first thing you'll see is me on
Gaia and I'm inviting people come with
me - kaya come and join Gaia and and
it's only twenty dollars for three
months of eight thousand more than eight
thousand documentaries of all the
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six bucks a worm a month and so and then
I also have I also have a research
website on there you can also join that
- the two of them give you everything
guy has given you a thousand documents
all kinds of subjects say it again do
you plan to re to go over the topics you
used to cover like I used to I remember
you used to talk about the skulls
Calvary Golgotha and the temple the key
the temple of
Soloman and it would really be nice to
really hear you expand on how the
Calvary or Golgotha the cranium is just
one big story as in Plato's allegory of
the cave it's just men's enlightenment
coming out of darkness into the light
again of understanding and wisdom have
you ever had a chance to to revisit that
topic and do you plan to expand on it
yes as a matter of fact I've done videos
on that subject and I'm going to be
doing a lot more in the other than with
Gaia and you'll be able to see them if
you join Gaia you'll be able to watch
all of my videos along with the other
8000 videos they're already out there
and I'm just amazed at the different
people that they have been able to find
and get them to come here and do their
work and videotape everything they're
doing and it's all there for anybody so
there's a whole world of knowledge that
people are just not aware of and I if I
get started on any one subject it does
well it just so convoluted the world we
live in is so well connected behind the
scenes your laws your government your
banking your military we honestly think
this is all going I mean is it are we
are we heading towards some type of
transhumanism are we back to the stars
where do you feel where does Jordan
Maxwell feel we are going and I think
that we are going toward artificial
intelligence and that the human family
as we know our fellow humans on the
earth the people on the earth ultimately
we are going to be transformed into a
different kind of life-form on the earth
we're no longer going to have
grandmothers and great grandparents and
and and marriage and all the ways that
we look at life today and we understand
each other's life we all have fathers
and mothers and children and
grandchildren and we all have the
you know ideas about life and this is
what the human world is all about well
I'm telling you what is coming is that
we have we have higher intelligences on
this earth that see us as an experiment
and now they're preparing us to go into
a whole different kind of human
existence when no longer going to be
free to think and question anything
they're there connecting computers all
over the world are being connected with
your brain quantum is taking taking
they're taking tissue out of the brain
and connecting them to diodes and little
high technology and computers so that
the computer will eventually be thinking
like you and it could talk with you and
then eventually it will take over your
life so they don't have to pay you a
large sum of money to work for them the
computer will work as long as
electricity so I see the human family as
it is this today is slowly but surely
being totally destroyed off the earth
and preparation for a new kind of
civilization which is coming that has
nothing to do with anything you can
imagine it's referred to as the New
World Order and as coming because of the
Age of Aquarius and people say the Age
of Aquarius is going to be a wonderful
time when the world would be washed
clean and there'll be freedom liberty
and all kinds of wonderful things in the
Age of Aquarius well I Got News for you
you need to go back and look at the Age
of Aquarius and look at the symbols and
what the Age of Aquarius is all about
it's not going to be pretty it's going
to be a frightening time and you need to
understand that the coming age is going
to be absolutely frightening in relation
to what you call human we are going to
be totally transformed out of being
human exactly yeah it's an incredible
story of what Age of Aquarius really
actually means
and what is going to do to us I have to
go to a whole a whole episode just
dedicated to transhumanism and
technology and yeah yeah you know the
video gaming's and stuff halo right all
that stuff the oculus rift oh yeah the
gaming headsets and stuff I appreciate
you coming on hanging out with his
brother we'll do it again you know we
will do it in
yeah okay I appreciate it I'm definitely
looking forward to some of the old work
coming back out again with fresh video
fresh teaching want some of the old work
where you can actually go in and I just
talked about the mazzaroth but sit there
and break it down with scripture in
context because I know you do that oh so
I'm ready for the new stuff to come yeah
and that's what I'm doing I'm getting
ready to put a lot of new stuff out
there and I'm putting it on my Research
Society till and but there's only so
much my web man can do it was eight
hours and one day and so he's always
behind but but we're putting a lot of
information on my research society so
you need to join that also I'm a man
again I want to thank you join yeah
I appreciate you Jordan thank you so
much for coming on man good right yeah
we'll talk later bye Jordan Maxwell
ladies and gentlemen the man is a wealth
of knowledge just beautiful beautiful
insight truly cherish him yeah you think
you want to add that you wanted to kind
of touch on yeah I was really really
just wanting him to yeah I saw a comment
in there where they were trying to find
the verse second Kings 23 yeah I was I
was trying to find that when my computer
cut off man right right right so the
thing is that it's there's a translation
a discrepancy there right so if you
translate it in ancient I think it's an
ancient
Hebrew the term comes up as maz Allah
instead of starry instead of stars or
constellation right now what it what is
the description second Kings you said
second Kings 23 second Kings chapter 23
do you know diverse it's just 23 I
haven't pulled up right here 23 5 5
I don't see math a lot there is it after
that yeah if you look up planets under
translation it expands on it by saying
it's the signs of the zodiac the Mosel
off or them as a lot and the reason the
reason I'm bringing this up is and I was
hoping I can get some closure on this
but there's these two narratives right
okay
he's approaching it from this astro
theological narrative well okay where
the stars are in essence these celestial
divine bodies right and that's the astro
theological right the twelve apostels
constellations the houses jesus' the
rising and setting of the Sun shinin the
horizon as forest and you go on and on
and on with his knowledge that he shared
but then you have other people who think
well historically the Bible wants us to
interpret the Bible as signs and wonders
and signs of the time and you know
interpreting it as no calendar that's
our calendar that's what that's what God
put that stuff there for yeah to see the
energies and all the other stuff that's
going on so that you can prepare
everything when you're gonna plant like
literally when you're going to plant
right spiritually when you're starting
something by the new moons like
spiritually physically everything goes
by the moon and the Sun and the planets
and I mean that that's essentially the
story that that descriptions tell
indefinitely and I get what you're
saying is it is it uh is it a logic or
is it I don't think it is I don't think
it is and that's where I can have the
conversation with Jordan or Santos and
I'm intrigued by the asteroid the
asteroid theology because essentially it
is telling his story or a story of
Christ this is I mean the the Magi which
is the wise men who followed this the
Stars were the first to arrive at the
birth of Jesus they knew where he
gonna be born at the exact location by
following his story written of in the
stars so right yeah I mean all the
Hebrews everything was about the stars
like all the constellations and stuff
they're all mentioned of in a good way
as a calendar and I believe it I believe
is telling his story and there's other
there's other work there's other work
besides some of these guys in astral
theology that are teaching that you know
in a different context we before the
Gregorian calendar or even the Halil
calendar which is the Jewish calendar
right that they've enacted for so long
we used to read the times and the months
there's something called Aviv which was
the reading of the barley and that's how
a lot of that's how a lot of this was
deciphered back then is is and also by
the reading of the of this of the moon
so the Feast of Trumpets was deciphered
as the time when Jesus was born and
everything everything was according to
the FIFA right you just it's when you
shall blow the trumpet the moon the moon
slither above the barley I mean all of
these have these deep rich meanings that
a lot of people have been disconnected
to because I mean we dogmatically read
the Bible we only see it a certain light
but we don't read the historical context
so how do we really know what's going on
in the Bible they don't actually we're
disconnected from the historical
narrative you know and then we're being
we're being fed this astra theological
narrative which is beautiful [Â __Â ] shines
a lot of light on it but that's just one
angle there's something in July down the
middle bro and you know that with all
truths you know that with all
information that it's usually somewhere
right down the middle and that's why I
entertain both sides you know that's why
we'll talk about the astros the
astrological aspect of it and then we'll
talk about the historian historical
aspect or or of Jesus and in his life
and and the person that he was and
things like that and how it his story
relates to us and how he's telling our
story and it's it's
somewhere right down the middle man you
know I can't say that the Western Church
has it figured out then you can't say
that you know Jordan Maxwell has it all
figured out and I don't want to talk
down upon his work cuz it seems like I'm
doing that at the end of every show I'll
bring up some things but we talked about
this where it's like you can't really
completely discredit one work or the
other you really need to be able to
appreciate it holistically to put it all
together to understand the the history
and and the creation and and and our
where we've been and where we have we
are going as humans and I I appreciate
his work out there following them for so
long I just I just really hope that us
as true seekers we don't research so
much material and and get stuck in these
theories and concepts that it becomes
dogma we need to continually refreshing
spin to all these different perspectives
so that we don't get stuck in dogged by
the way a church does and I really and
that s in that sense I always want to be
learning I always want to be open to
everything it is the mark of a wise man
to entertain something as you know as
truth right I don't know completely
accepting it I am I was thinking the
other day you know and really like
honestly thinking like why it's my
podcast driving right now like why is my
inbox littered with messages of people's
lives who have been changed by listening
to these conversations your voice right
now leo like this conversation why are
people's lives being changed by us being
open about this stuff and I've come to
the realization I had a revelation from
it I felt like I was asking God I said
what is it and I felt like the Lord told
me there's a difference between the
Jordan maxwell's there's a difference
between and the Lord showed me Michael
Heizer
right there's a difference between me
and Michael Heizer and as far as on the
book smarts and applying the knowledge
and all that stuff he's got me under the
books right everybody's needed each part
of the but other bodies needed but what
sets what sets me apart from him and
what and and from Jordan Maxwell is that
we apply this stuff to our lives and
we're experiencing this stuff I think
this is part of our spirituality like
this is real for us this isn't a theory
when I said they're debating doctrine
we're like we're wanting to know so we
can go out under the stars and make
contact with God with the Holy Spirit we
want to know this deep stuff so that in
prayer we'll know how to pray we'll know
help them see results when we pray all
of this stuff is applied to our
spirituality and it's not just theory
for us anymore man and people people
resonate because I was even talking to
my partner a while ago about how I just
I feel off sometimes I feel so affected
by my things sometimes and I was telling
her what about this Mercury retrograde
what about on first we had this you know
this this this this partial eclipse you
know what about Venus that's in
retrograde you know there's this can't
just be a concept where it's like oh
it's in retrograde nothing's happening
there's definitely an effect that these
solar bodies have on our ball on our
auric and Merkava our energetic bodies
and we're feeling it and that's probably
why we're feeling the way we do
sometimes so I can't completely
discredit everything and and say no to
it I address I agree with you completely
you know we need to be able to not just
practice it in theory but we also need
to be able to walk the walk and not just
talk to talk and and I agree with you
Michael Heizer
and all these theorists a you know
they're putting into their theorizing
they're having a stop there I want you
to go out into nature I want to see you
being affected by the elements or the
stars I want to see you experiencing and
enacting what you know I don't just want
to hear you be a voice you know to these
theories I agree and that's why I
appreciate your work so much dirt is
because in everything you do you're not
just having a podcast you're not just
talking you're experiencing these things
you know when you talk about going out
into nature and trying psilocybin the
mother teachers you know the golden
teachers you know going out into the
Stars and signaling ETS with your laser
beams I mean there's there's got to be a
theory and there's got to be practice
yeah yep
and now and what we're doing is we're
trying to prove their theories man that
they're not doing I think Jordan did
years ago though at least his story says
you know say he did and those those
stories or what kind of won me over you
know building and you know what he went
out and it made contact and things you
know those story but we don't get much
of that maybe we will on gaya but I
watched the guy your presentation and
his first one that he did with George
Noory and it was good it's very similar
than what we just we just hopefully
hopefully there's a new vigor like a new
fervency for him to kind of get that old
material out that he can't promote
anymore many you guys know that he went
into a lawsuit we don't know the details
but someone else has the rights to his
work and can't promote his old work
anymore so he doesn't really you can't
really go in and into detail about it so
I think would gaya he's gonna begin to
do that but all of that stuff man it's a
connected the video I was really I was
talking about how like I really wanted
him to go over all of these concepts he
had gone over long ago I mean you're
talking about stuff like the twelve-
confessions the Sun the Moon the 12-step
program good and evil the Trivium I mean
all these the all these different topics
and concepts called the skull in
Golgotha
you know the mazzaroth missoula he
reached here II summarizes everything in
the way cuz he has already done
historically and I agree with you with
with what he did on Gaia
he's just reiterating everything he's
already said I really want things to be
refreshed rehashed and expanded on and
then interrelated in the interconnected
with everything that's going on
presently in our life you know with this
the thinning of the veil you know
everybody in this day and age even in
hip-hop culture is talking about you
know spirituality in consciousness and
the stars and spirituality and I really
want him what do you expect it's a it's
a generational gap you can't expect
someone to do everything this is what
the rains have been passed to you people
like you a connect it all into bringing
about and refresh it in a very
interesting right the way you're doing
so I can't expect him to do everything
but it would be nice to really hear him
start to refresh and rehash all his
theories and just just kind of have a
you know an update to it yeah that's
what uh that's what some people are
saying in the in the comments you know
that we're just picking up the torch
where he left off and kind of running
with it and bringing his work and he may
never transition over to that way it may
it may pick up with us you never know
man I hope I hope he does I hope we get
some more awesome work from Jordan you
know I think we will but um
but it is up to us and it's not about
just having a theory and and and just
sitting there talking about the Bible
see that's what Paul talked about in
Corinthians it talks about like how
these Pharisees and Sadducees would come
with it's just the elegant see and the
wisdom of words and they knew all the
right words and they're very well-spoken
and trained in the universities and all
that stuff but Paul said I come with
power and demonstration in the Holy
Ghost illustration that's not so so
we're not just like a charismatic church
in the south where that's all they are
is just Cara's mania and stuff that's
going on we kind of blend the two we try
to we try to balance the two with the
knowledge with the information with this
studying as well as the spirituality
that goes along with it so we'll know
how to act in the spirit realm how to
interact with the energies and and and
and we can prove it but then we do it
with you and your audience makes you
accountable for everything you say do it
an experience so when you're out and
about experiencing these things and
you're talking about them it's
interesting because your audience is not
just dead it's alive it's it's it's like
iron sharpens iron they're they're
refining you as you help them understand
concepts and it's in its it's not a
monologue in the sense that it goes one
way it's a dialogue it's it's dualistic
in the sense that you know what I love
about this podcast is that you go to
your audience and say what do you want
you guys think can we get questions you
guys can call in so I mean that's one of
the things I really want to emphasize to
every it's all 21 viewers that are
watching right now don't ever hesitate
to call in please call in leave
questions in the chat because in order
for the concept the dialogue to
continuing to be more rich in
understanding and to achieve more in the
moment we need good questions from you
guys it's not just a monologue it's not
just Derek telling you guys one thing
interact with him take the take charge
don't be afraid to call in yeah man it's
it's so funny that I've been you know
reading these messages in hearing what
people are saying and one thing that
people are saying and I understand like
this podcast is helping a lot of
unchurched believers like people who
have faith in God and then many even
call themselves believers they believe
in God they believe in Jesus but that
may stop there there's nothing else with
Christianity that resonates with them
but they have faith in Christ you know
what I'm saying a faith in a higher
power that they don't even care what you
call it
and well and so I understand that maybe
this podcast essentially it's- churched
is the church for people who don't go to
church it's because what the church is
supposed to be a community it's not
supposed to be something that you just
go and you watch a play when I quit
going to church is when I felt like I
was gonna watch a production and I and
they gave me an itinerary and I read it
okay the offerings coming next okay
there's gonna be a short skit okay next
is gonna be this and I was like man
we're just showing up to watch this
stuff and I was like man this isn't
organic this isn't living and breathing
of something that was supposed to be a
part of so I wanted to make sure that
what we're doing is something that's
driving and all the messages are saying
one thing stood out to say they love it
you know most people don't even like the
guests that I have they just like when
the guest leaves and then we get the
talk and and I get to kind of share some
final thoughts and stuff but from that
point and then when I go into prayer a
lot of people saying that they're really
touched by the prayers that I do at the
end of the show and so
I want to make sure that after every
show even a show that kind of gets wavy
and I had Jordan on some good stuff for
a while then it got kind of negative and
stuff so but even though I don't care
where the show goes I want to end it on
a note and I want to pray for people so
I'm gonna say a prayer and I'll let you
pray a blessing as well man whatever
you're feeling and I feel like that
whatever we are going through
even if we're dealing with some stuff I
think we can address that in prayer that
so that we can we can we can see what
other people are going through similar
things man so whatever you want to pray
for I'll let you do that too but I'll go
ahead and pray I've been getting a lot
of in boxes man for people struggling
it's 20 18 man it's time for us to face
this thing head-on it's time for us to
to live our dreams and and get the reach
down deep and grab those visions and
breathe life into them so we're gonna do
that and people who are struggling with
an addiction and depression and a lots
of things and there are some people out
there who say that they're struggling
with entities and demonic oppression
that they feel like they can never be
free from and I want to address that
we're gonna pray so whatever you're
feeling whatever it's going through your
head and you need some some you need
some help
we want to we want to ask the helper
which is the Holy Spirit for help and
I'm just gonna pray over you and we're
gonna end the show out I'll pray then
Leo you go ahead okay a bunch of people
even in the in the chat right now and uh
and all of you guys who are listening
all you guys who are watching this is
for you join with us I'm gonna say
father God I thank you for your presence
god I think the thing I'm thankful that
you let us see another year and that
you've blessed us and you've called us
for such a time as this God I'm asking
you right now just to move upon the
audience and everybody listening under
the sound of my voice just stir within
them God your spirit the quickening of
the Holy Spirit let them feel that
they're not alone that you loved them
and that you've called them for a
purpose and a reason God and you have
not forgotten about them you have not
given up on anyone
you have long-suffering God in this
women the scripture says that we're
going through tribulation and we're
going through through terror and all
kinds of stuff on the left and on the
right guy you said that you are near to
the broke
so I just speak to the brokenhearted
right now those who are who are
distraught I just pray for peace right
now it would be sent right now in Jesus
name I thank you for peace god I ask you
to move right now move upon them God
from the top of their head to the soles
and her feet break up anything that's
been stagnant all that stagnant water
get it out of there and you said they're
out of there our belly shall flow rivers
of living water god I thank you for that
right now
I claim it over my friends right now
rivers of living water newness of life
all the old out the window just to
release the old breathe in a new life
for us Holy Spirit we thank you for the
life that you animate all objects and
your dwelling with us in Jesus name I
thank you for peace power and
understanding spirit of confusion I bind
you right now you people are being
confused I don't know which way to go
they don't know which way is up down
left to right they don't know they try
to ask questions to people they see on
on the internet and friends and nobody
knows which direction to go
god I'm asking for you to send peace
right now in a place of confusion that
Babylonian spirit to be rebuked in Jesus
name
peace be still quiet stillness in the
storm Jesus mighty name Amen
and the father I asked for encouragement
I ask for endurance for for this
community
I asked us that you allow us to be of
like-mindedness the same attitude of
mind towards each other as Christ had my
assembly father that you allow us to
walk on this path towards you towards
enlightenment towards abundance and
encouragement I ask that you allow us to
live in the fruits of the spirit
humbleness human humility love towards
each other honest that 20:18 be just a
beautiful transformative year for
everyone that they get their lives in
order that they accomplished
goals they need father God that you give
them the strength to to find that light
and that encouragement in that new sense
of direction in them so that they have
the power to overcome whatever traps
mental traps whatever confusion whatever
roadblocks whatever ethereal chords are
holding them back that they break free
from these chains of stagnation that you
spark creativity in them that you awaken
that fire inside of them that Kundalini
that rises to their to the throne the
Holy See and their pineal gland that
their their eyes just open up with
clarity so that they can see clearly
what they need to do to transform the
world transform themselves and that you
just continually keep us grounded father
God because we know we're not grounded
we're so easily pushed over by anything
and that you are that you just
continually guide Derek father in his
work in his ministry in his studies and
it's true seeking his podcasts and that
father God that you you continue to pour
in these these supporters for him in his
mission
father God and also as father God about
this this whole civil war between uh
between brothers that you bring called
that's and unity because right now
father God it seems like this confusion
this vigilance is tearing apart the
community father guard that you open
their eyes to see that we're all
brothers we're all on the same journey
we're all facing the same enemy here and
and that enemy is ignorance the enemy is
darkness and we need to fill it with
light with your light father guard so
that we can see clearly so we can love
others instead of judging instead of
holding down and so we can break through
these shackles these fetters of
ignorance as Plato says we can escape
that cave of ignorance and enter into a
new light father God we thank you
Heavenly Father for everything you do
and we think you Derek and the community
and your heavenly name father blessings
awesome fairly oh thank you brother yeah
thank you for the blessings man whoo
good stuff man good stuff this is what
uh that's what people been waiting for
man
there's people who listen to this show
and they're waiting for that part we
gotta take a step further there's
something else that that's got to happen
there's something else that's got to
come I'm just trying to get some
materials together I don't know what it
is I'm feeling I don't know if it's a
school or or just an online fellowship
that we have to come together because
people have giftings people have talents
and abilities that they need to hone in
on they have questions that they want to
ask and not even in front of an audience
like they don't they don't want audience
I know I do private work and stuff like
that but I'm talking about as far as
community is concerned litleo so if the
Lord gives you anything man I'm feeling
some type of school of the Spirit
whether it's one night a week where we
come together and on sputum I don't even
know if it has to be broadcast live I
think it's just a personal training
thing that we need to do there's people
I talked to who are empaths who deal
with spirits on a daily basis and they
don't know how to interact with it it's
getting the best of them and we need we
need to address this stuff man you know
I agree and I feel like I agree with you
every every historically in these
podcasts and and working with you I've
noticed that there's so many gifted
smart people with so much rich knowledge
to share and you know it's kind of just
not being shared because you know
they're there they don't have a platform
for their voice they don't have before
the way you do and I and I really do
feel 2018 should be a platform a forum
to bring about the community to have
them share their opinions and you being
that what you being that person that
allows the community to speak out as
well you know equally like-mindedness
you know so as it says in what spirit
when mine in Christ and I hope that that
opens up and I think I will
definitely joining on that yes something
Carolyn Adams Starseed Bay Chris and
Nicole bars Kristy Lee Gann oh man we
have so many people who are leaders in
their own right and then they and some
of those people are stepping out testing
the waters and they're learning and it's
so awesome to see these chills right now
because Dan you know Donald's out there
and the jungles right now on some Island
looking like MIT in nature right now man
you're doing these podcasts 2018 an
amazing year and I'm feeling you're
gonna you're gonna you're gonna break
through some break through a lot there's
gonna be some beautiful things that are
about your your live we have we have to
we have to make a community where people
can test their gifts and see that that's
what I was raised up in we went to
meetings and home group meetings and
sessions where people could test their
gifts test out the prophetic giftings
and test out being able to hear the
voice of the holy spirit and and have
confidence to speak it out and people
being empathic you're able to pick up on
spirits and what's on people and around
people and not just to pick it up on it
just for it to be something cool but to
actually help them get through that
situation and what they're dealing with
yeah
so that's coming ladies and gentlemen I
want to thank everybody for hanging out
with us we always got something cool
here and to bring to the table and
interesting podcast tonight I'm gonna
have to piece this together cuz it was
done in like three parts I think and uh
I don't know how I know how to fix that
that mess up so I my pieces together see
what we can salvage and uh make sure you
guys support us we will be on here oh
yeah I got it announced this the stream
schedule is now on my website if you go
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go to the top there's the YouTube stream
schedule so as I get confirmations with
guests who are gonna be on here and even
if we do some other stuff
I'm putting the stream schedule on there
and it's usually either at 10:00 a.m.
central or 7:00 p.m. central those two
times I kind of go back and forth with
people's schedules so there's about five
or six shows that are up there I got
james gilliland coming back on that's
going to be good
but Brigitte Nielsen's coming on she
does a lot of stuff with Corey good and
star children and stuff like that so we
got some more interesting conversation
so so you don't miss an episode you guys
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cheese and Shalom and we will catch you
guys on the next broadcast peace
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