Stories of the Supernatural and Paranormal | Marlene Pardo
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my friend who had be on her show
couple weeks ago Marlene Pardo Marlene
how you doing welcome to the true
sneaker podcast my friend it's my
pleasure but it was my pleasure to have
you as a guest in my place we tried to
do this several months back I'm looking
at the I was looking through our emails
and it was like middle of last month
when we first came out last year when we
first connected and I was like wow it's
been so long and we tried to make it
happen but it was when the devil had
control of my internet sabotage which is
where just things will work out no
matter how hard your video trying to
work and I'm talking from scheduling all
the way to electronics yep I know what
you mean yeah being doing this stuff for
this long you find out that uh you're at
the mercy of all types of other energies
but they're so funny too cuz like we'll
put that out there cuz you wanted to
talk about well I want to talk about the
paranormal and all these stories and
things that you've experienced and
people you've interviewed and but you
wanted to talk about the psychology
behind it too and the mind and hypnosis
and things like that which are all
linked together and just speaking of
this like things not working out the
juju Todd with it because I just
remember even last week having some
talks with some friends they're trying
to and I go through this all the time
like building in a certain direction
trying to make something happen and
nothing's working like they're running
in the blockages nobody's responding so
they look to the divine well maybe God
doesn't want me doing this maybe this
isn't what I'm supposed to be doing just
because it hasn't taken off yet you know
and we kind of like tie that to the
divine telling us know God said no
because you got seven views on your
podcast you know what I'm saying like
that kind of thing
and I think that there's two aspects to
that what you're talking about and I
think everybody's experienced it
personally for you your people and I
think there's two things I look at the
psychological aspect and I study your
subconscious a lot sometimes people
sabotage themselves who their
subconscious and a lot of weird ways
it's not an arrant and they'll be asking
themselves that same question you said
man I'm trying so hard and this is not
happening it's not working or they do
something that kind of Doom's them to
fail and it's either believe it or not
they're afraid of being successful
because then their comfort zone is where
they're at and if they succeed even a
little bit that unknown area that is
very scary to the human human being
subconscious their logical mind tells me
hey I want to succeed I want to go
forward but subconsciously they don't
you're afraid of what comes with it
especially success they sabotage
themselves just a psychological aspect
as far as what we do to ourselves this
per se has nothing spiritual or mystical
to it the flip side of it is is that one
of the things that you have experienced
personally inspire and you went down the
right road if you want to say angels
guide you doors open for you
doors open for you you it's the opposite
of what you're describing the obstacles
are not there you meet the right person
we get the right phone call and I'm
gonna throw something in sometimes
people want certain things and it's
gotta be that thing that they be
imagined or they prayed for it's gotta
be that that way and they don't leave
room or whether it's their expectations
or the price for something better but
sometimes we lock ourselves into this
mindset that's gotta be that way or that
outcome and maybe there's something
catching you and you gotta let go a
little bit how's that you gotta make me
ask for something pray for something but
did you know let's step back and let
maybe something else that might be the
better step in because you're limiting
so I mean there's a lot of angles
that scenario I know right do you think
I mean you tied in self sabotage that's
a big one you know of like wanting it so
bad but then we get it you know we're
scared it's a new environment and then
we just burn bridges and self-sabotage
for because it feels different
it's we're not comfortable there it's a
new territory and relationships get
severed and stuff too with it because it
brings about all these different ideas
and but it's it almost seems like - it's
like all of the stuff stems from just a
shift in consciousness you know of like
is God for me or is God against me is
you know all the angels here to help me
or are the demons out to get me right
this whole shifting consciousness shift
your perspective and what you bring in
to your reality right it's just shifting
you know changing the way that you look
at things and then the things that you
look at change right and it's much
easier let's say myself I'm not saying
that sometimes there is interference or
spiritual turbulence that comes from
that and I'm not saying no but sometimes
it's much easier to lay the blame on
that yeah versus thing I did so
consciously subconsciously sometimes not
obviously by the way most of the time
it's not exactly like what you said if I
start going in the direction of being
success your believe it or not your
subconscious mind will anticipate or
know like you said and the relationships
and it doesn't even necessarily have to
be a significant other than friendships
it could be even the place you work and
your subconscious extrapolates and those
if you get successful or you start going
it that you know all these things around
you will have to be fade away your you
might even have to consciously make the
decision to sever the authority and that
scares most people yeah I mean there is
gonna be a shifting there is gonna be a
changing right I mean you know most
people say that you change right when
you start a new job you know things
change circumstances and situations
change like the wind sometimes and
people are used to consistency we want
the same thing I could see that in my
own life of wanting something to be
constant right we need stability and
stuff it's ever-changing so stepping
into those new seasons and the
transitions can be hard especially when
people already have you in a box and
they already have you figured out they
know your schedule you know but when you
change whether it's getting a new job or
stepping into you know becoming
successful or whatever it is they say oh
what you changed and it's not that
you've changed for the bad but in their
eyes you have you know what I'm saying
because you're not meeting their needs
like you used to you're stepping out of
that that mold and maybe you don't have
as much time as you used to
that's a big one for me like I used to
stay on the phone with with friends for
like eight hours nine hours while I was
a truck driver I have my earpiece and I
talked to him all day and now I'm lucky
if I talk to him once a week you know
what I'm saying and they're like hey man
you changed now your big time it's like
no like if I'm talking to you that means
I'm not creating where I'm not working
now because it's changed up now now I
just can't passively talk so people
would look at all you don't have time
for us anymore you know in those kind of
situations people that I want to see
success but what I mean success it could
be anything it doesn't have to be
celebrity status a lot of times success
whatever escapes them because they get
held back by that conversation you had
their friends say and I don't want to
say that they do it purposely
with that I care hold you back yeah
changing you know what you just said oh
now you're your big time like you're too
good for us that kind of deal some
people are really are scared of falling
into being that person and they they
never let go they again it's also easier
to say blame it on that you know I don't
want to be thought of as the guy that
ate you know forgot where you came from
yeah yeah definitely
comes with that I definitely had the
experience in on many levels in and then
you have the exam yourself am i changing
am i becoming the douchebag exactly what
you want to change for the good you want
to change for the good you want to make
sure that you you know you're doing that
you know yes there are we change
sometimes change comes in like I think
of like a few by four and then there's
other times that it's gradual you know
but I think that we went problems when
we really hold on and we dig in our
heels and it's like I'm sure you've had
that experience that's when you start a
new job feel really uncomfortable you
don't know anybody who don't know your
boss and you're like man I want to go
home and go to sleep sometimes that's
good because that uncomfortableness
means you're pushing out your horizons
that's fine don't worry okay you might
feel even anxious don't worry your
anxieties that a peak and then you're
gonna come down and then you know what a
month later two months later three
months later depending on what you do
it's like it's all good you're okay
yeah people that anxiety or that I don't
know anybody and where they saying and I
don't know what I'm doing they can't
they just just cannot handle it it's
like write it out and it's like
everything not let the job a lot of
things when you're doing something you
and you're like man I don't know what
I'm doing is this and you're like maybe
I should just stop and sometimes it's
you yourself not wanting to deal with
that uncomfortable thing called change
yeah you know so I mean there's a lot of
things behind it and again and then
there's another aspect which you
mentioned which is when there's
something pardon the pun coming out of
left field which does is it interfering
with your best laid plans or in your
best efforts towards something yeah and
uh I you know the anxiety the the
butterflies in the stomach that's good
because like eventually it's gonna go
away you know what I'm saying I remember
when I was working on the job and we'd
have guys come down from corporate and
then so everybody's on their best
behavior the way we work want to make
sure we do we're doing everything by the
books and loading our trucks was what we
were doing
sorting parts and stuff in and everybody
was like when the guy from corporate
there was a level of respect you know
and shaking their hand and being real
professional and stuff like that
everybody was just walking a fine line
and I was too and I'm shaking her and
hey how's it going I'm there you know
and and then the the guy had to ride
with me from corporate he rode with me
and I was with him for like 14 hours one
day and we get in the truck and he's
just he's late lets loose he's telling
dirty jokes and yeah and I'm like oh
he's I heard you could speed up some and
I'm like calling and nervous cuz they're
like judging your driving and then and
he's like a regular guy we get back to
the office and then the next day he
comes in and he's like hey what's up
true seeker he's calling me my rap name
and everybody else is still like walking
on eggshells around this guy but I'm
like man this is the this guy puts his
pants on one leg at a time so it killed
that weird facade that I had around this
person that everybody else is still
scared because of this position or
notoriety or whatever so that was really
weird you know and it was that happens
that happens a lot with with jobs and
people and stuff you know when stuff's a
new and scary you know but some people
that got comfortable istic they think
they can't take it some people feel like
anxious and and it's like don't worry
being tight is that kind of killing you
it's not and they'll gradually go away
maybe a little by little every day you
know and then they'll come a point where
it we can't even remember that you feel
comfortable same thing is when you start
school you know when you're a kid and
all those things but a lot of people and
I'm talking about when you start trying
to go forward in any field of life
whatever it might be that they don't
want to deal that would that change that
uncomfortableness
and I want to say a lot of people you
know when they get it was a really old
you know and your only regrets they look
back and evil why didn't I do that you
know when you're old and you realize
some of the things that you thought
really matter don't matter you know my
girls oh well you know what you look at
things that at that moment you thought
were huge monumental I can make you know
the risks seem so
huge that you back down from it and when
you're old you look back and you go why
didn't I just try it
you know why didn't I just do it that
regret kind of thing and by this I mean
you know calculator brisk I'm gonna say
don't be stupid either but after what I
calls though the execute you know a lot
of you a plan a research you know and
big measure and you know they do and
then they never execute I hate that bar
biggest enemy ask creatives it's obvious
enemies to see an execution execution
okay
there's so many then you talk yourself
out of it and you gotta feel good
because no that was really the times not
writer you know I figured out are you I
read this blog that sense is really
negative if they'll put off and they
never do the e word there's a point and
this is I think more faith comes then
you got its to it you gotta jump you
gotta like say okay worst-case scenario
okay well I'm gonna do it because I'm
gonna bang that I did my homework and
it's just the point that I can't plan or
research anymore or wait for the perfect
time you know that the fort your time is
not you know that excuse that people
have the timing is not good you know
what there's times that you've got to do
it and dude wait call the key word
execute and because otherwise again you
will always have excuses well you know
what once upon a time I thought of doing
that but she's all wasn't a good time or
whatever and that's all you got at the
end of your life excuses but I think
that kind of cheats us we cheat
ourselves out of the human experience we
do that
yeah stepping out of the comfort zone
you know and there's a quote I read on
on Facebook today I think it was it says
uh pretty much said a ship is safe on
the shore but it wasn't created to be
there it was created to the sail you
know but it's safe as long as it as long
as you stay here you're good as long as
I stay at this job that I've been at for
in years 15 years I'm good I'm good but
it's not what I was created for I was
created for much more I was created to
sing I was created to create an album
write a book start a podcast you know go
to another job and just try it put in
that application you know but it's scary
we don't execute on we have all these
ideas and I think that when you when
you're plagued by those ideas you gotta
you have to step out there's a slight
begging you to step out rights to if you
want to say it's God or the universe or
whatever it's like beckoning you to
Haiti come on man the waters right but I
know you're scared but get through it
you know well you know you hear a lot of
people historically speaking I've been
successful and then you know the
autobiography of and you still say you
know they had all these you know
failures or if your creator stuff that
wasn't good but we look at it like
overall because we have the the
availability of seeing that person's
life in totality at the end they're
worse but that day to day do you know
how that person might have felt when
they had those things that just didn't
turn out better and it's like yeah but
we want we want somebody to hold our
Hennessy what if I guarantee at the end
of everything everything will be okay
how would you handle it if you if right
now I would say whatever it is that
you're gonna try to do whatever it is I
guarantee you in the end everything will
work out you'll be success people be
like on over themselves like okay you
know do it because it's again that's
here of failure or of overcoming it and
trying again and and again I want to say
it's that thing that and I'm gonna say
nowadays you know because we have so
much access to people people think that
that spotlight of failure will forever
be on you at the end of the day people
don't remember
so you flub something it didn't work out
right it was kind of bad okay and I'm
talking here from the creator if you're
creating something that's what that
spotlight is not going to be on you
forever and ever
it doesn't matter fact most people are
so into their thing that that's
momentary the only one that's like
carrying on your oh my god until here
you last yourself with it
is you you know it's like yeah yeah you
saw Aaron Aaron stuff I've seen people
do that on social media and I've tried
not to maybe some of it slips I'll just
because I'm so open but I've seen people
like give their trolls in their accusers
a platform and they will introduce their
community and they're following their
fan base to stuff that nobody knows
about but these couple trolls are in
boxing them or making videos that
nobody's seen and then they'll start
talking about it and share and say hey
look what they did and now we're all
looking into it because you gave because
like you said you're the only one that's
to you this is all men they're trying to
get me you know and all these people are
plotting out on me and it's really like
to people but in your mind that's like
oh man it's all of these people who are
trying to end you and then you give them
a platform and now everybody knows about
it part of me a part of me kind of feels
like I've seen some people do it and
it's almost like they just want the
attention like they're like they want to
share it maybe it's a pity party maybe
it's a war with me
you know maybe hey I'm under attack guys
looks help me or something right when
people share it out because I know
people they're known for like share it
like when somebody sends them a mean
message or makes fun of them they'll
screenshot it and that's their Instagram
post so it kind of like welcomes that
and they're known for you know showing
off these mean comments and stuff that
they get right versus like I like to
silence them I like to say hey you're
not gonna hijack my platform and burst
your screen shot hey everybody look what
they said to me every now and then you
know I just let people know that it's
out there but some of it is like you
know we're giving them a voice and
allowing them to take credit for if you
ignore somebody when somebody says
something to get you to believe it or
not for these people there's nothing
worse than being ignored
I'm not even gonna debate with your
money
that's worse because once you react gain
control they made you react and then of
course if you do is just described which
is defend yourself or point them out
look what they did look what they said
they're in there whether they realize
they're not without control they've
gotten to you they've reached the wall
or sure where as if you can or them it's
like yeah all right people like that in
like this and eventually they clean away
and they move on to someone else yeah
that they can that will react defend
themselves basically see them point
they're invisible and that's what you do
in those cases and I hate to say it in
our world where that happens a lot with
the trolls that's exactly what you do
yeah they are that's what they want
they're trying to get you to respond and
and I've seen people and I've done it
I've done it to other people like back
in the day just joking like saying cuz
you know the mean comment is gonna get
them to jump or to lash out and even
though they were joking about it you
know and uh oh I didn't really mean that
I really love what you got going on with
that well why would you say that and
people have told me I said that because
I knew that you would respond
oh so you had to you know punch below
the belt to get me to respond you know
and they just want a reaction so yeah
you feeding you know don't feed the
trolls you know saying don't give them
the attention that they seek make them
build their own platform and all that
kind of stuff somebody that's gonna
start going out there to their audience
and saying yeah what this person said
all sudden this person was unknown okay
it's a bunch of eyes on them and they're
like yeah that's what I wanted all along
yeah oh and I mean basically ha and I'd
say how many celebrities nowadays you
know that are famous because of
notoriety that's it that's their only
talent they're notorious if you look at
their talents they're really don't have
any per se okay they're just notorious
and usually how they got there was they
of the latter oh saying outrageous
things to people that had some type of
recognition audience whatever and then
you know they just climbed the ladder
out and it's like what you want to do
but you're not going on my back yeah
there's a lot of there's a bit it's
getting bigger and bigger now especially
on YouTube and stuff the reaction videos
where you don't have to create comment
you just do content you just do
commentary on someone else's work
critiquing the work making fun of the
work being impressed by the work now you
have to be an entertainer and get the
people laughing or get them involved say
little witty witty stuff but as far as
like you you're getting big off of doing
commentary on other people's music or
current events or whatever which is
really really strange and even in the
Christian realm there's a bunch of that
too I call them people have like a
exposing ministry where they say
so-and-so expose and so their whole
platform is pointing out what you're
doing wrong versus them creating
something beautiful that didn't exist
original that all they can do is
piggyback off of what you've done but
they're become a popular like people who
people tune in they love just because
the person has a personality or they're
funny or or maybe they you know other
people resonate with the cause who a
bunch of people who are against what
you're doing it's catching on now and
there's a lot of people with these days
I mean millions of subscribers just to
produce to create their you doing a
heavy lifting and they're the ones that
are getting the views or whatever the
case might be whatever yes and that's
unfortunate who that is but and we go in
here to the psychology of there's a
point where you realize I cannot control
these people you can't you know people
sometimes get really frustrated anxious
because let's say you've got some ways
attacking you or doing something you
can't you know unless let's say they're
using your material for example but if
you know there's something where if
they're critiquing it
blah blah blah fair right fair use
whatever but there comes a point
where you can not control everybody and
people are frustrated and there's a
point you gotta let go pray wait hope
for the best and say you know what I
know eventually we're gonna go down in
flames whatever and let them get them
burn out because you can not control
everybody you can't and that goes you
know whether it's what you described or
even in our personal lives you can't
control everybody and my effect really
in reality only when you get control is
yourself and maybe your children when
they're small outside of that that's it
that's it and once we get to that
realization that you know because
sometimes when we do that we can control
it makes us feel safer more grounded
stops the anxiety and when things are
out of control and people are doing the
same things and you're like what is this
you know let it go once you let go of
that responsibility goals ah wow that's
a weight off my shoulders and and again
you know like everything you have to
calculate how much of an impact this
person is really truly there's a lot and
that's one thing I have to say
especially nowadays things are very
fleeting attention is very fleeting when
it comes to things like that like you
said now they're gonna use but a year
from now they can nobody would even
remember their name yeah but in that
moment they're like wow it's very
fleeting you know that kind of thing it
comes quick and easy and it disappears
just the same way yeah for sure um talk
a little bit about your podcast I mean
how many podcasts do you have I want to
say because I have like a series of
podcasts I have a supernatural for Miami
those particles which is where I
interview people I've got over 500 of
that I also do a podcast another podcast
series which is a supernatural story
time and there I read people's stories
or the experiences they've had with a
supernatural paranormal I've been
receiving emails since like the early
2000s of people that would send me
emails and I kept them and and then
there's a nice shape diary which is Irie
Cass these are like classic those
stories adventure stories some of the
new ones maybe some Stephen King short
stories you know for people that you
know this is your free audio book thing
that's just me I got like that going on
yeah I interview a lot of people because
after since I've been doing that through
the paranormal work for so long I know a
lot of people a lot of people that I
knew that were doing it don't do that
anymore and I tell everybody most people
don't realize that in this for
difference of pointing you for an out
okay
especially when you run across
experiences with dark hauntings
malevolence things of that nature
I think there's something that your soul
says you need to step away in other
words you're how good how long you can
do that without imperiling yourself it's
this desert there's an expiration date
on that and I do a lot of consulting I
get a lot of phone calls from groups
people that know me across the United
States that were asking about certain
things and but that's but I very rarely
do I do an investigation
number one I'm really busy number two
because I want to say like especially
now with the advent of the paranormal
reality shows you get a lot of people
that it's like when you're doing an
investigation like okay you guys all you
got is a lot of good imagination yes
great
and then you come across stuff where
people are really and sometimes it's a
legitimate haunting and then there's
other things that are very dark I have
found a lot of stuff where yeah there's
something in the house trip I've been
having problems that's attached to them
and like I say to you know when I was
doing the therapy and alternative side I
dealt with a spiritual attachment okay
and this is something that follows you
around in other words doesn't matter
where you live you've been a wonderful
problem okay
I mean I've seen that and that dialogue
with spirits that are attached to people
sometimes are human spirits and
sometimes they're not okay
so like I said there comes a point where
you
just step back at a little bit from it
because how can I say and I'm gonna give
you an example I tell everybody most
hardcore investigators I knew that I was
gonna get a case or that a case was
legitimate because before I even went on
the investigation I would have things
happen or see things around where I
lived as a matter of fact and I tell
everybody I used to have my other
property my office used to be like a
detached garage and I had built it like
little offices and on the side I used to
have you know those uh those frosted
glass on the on the window and I just
have a little alleyway like where I used
to put my trash cans instruction but
nobody would normally be there it would
just live out in my backyard that's why
I would work from this was quiet and you
don't know how many times I would see a
shadow slipping back and forth somebody
walking back there and when I would a
lot of times I would say there's a few
only window I had that I was like I'm
gonna get a case or so I got in a case I
know okay there's something up there
because if you think that spiritual
turbulence or whether it's an
intelligent a haunting or whatever's
going on it's gonna want you to get
there I got news for you it doesn't it
comes to check you out and interfere
depending on what's going on or ask for
help by the way sometimes you
legitimately have a human soul that was
trapped that needed to be hostile or
needed to be helped okay and they're
making they they don't wait for you to
show up now some saying most people that
are truly have done paranormal work it
doesn't really start when you drive up
to where you're going if they come to
see you and there comes a point you know
when he which is reelection why I just
I'm just doing the podcast and into
really people because there I've been
doing it for so long that I said I need
to just step back from this because as a
matter of fact when I was doing the
hypnotherapy I used to have people come
to that office which was at my house
and after a while and then I'm using
this other property where I'm at now and
I what I'm singing now it used to be my
office as well
and I used to bring my clients here yeah
come on point I said this is not smart
I'm gonna stop this and I'm not talking
about safe here than physical you know
safety I did it because it was beating
over to my personal life and you have to
have really strong boundaries because a
lot of people despite what they see on
these paranormal reality shows like oh
that's much fun you don't use mere
places and there's up not all the time
but there's an inherent and spiritual
danger involved during this work anybody
will underestimate that yeah
can can fascination with that stuff and
can that open up doors especially not
knowing what you're doing to like
demonic possession and things like that
hauntings coming back with you like you
go even go to a place and come back and
now the thing is attached or other
things that are similar it's attached
because you're an open vessel yes like
attracts like in the metaphysical realm
you like attracts like okay if you're an
angry person okay if you're a sad person
let's say you're a normal person but
you're going through something in your
life you might be really sad maybe here
a little bit depressed I'm very careful
about using what you test because I you
can be sad this would be depressed okay
people we don't want to go from 0 to 60
you know we're human beings you know be
sad you know and it doesn't mean
depression as a clinical depression but
let's say something going on in your
personal life we'd be really sad for
it's not like an overnight sadness
you've been sized a loss of a job a
relationship your side if you're feeling
with it sometimes it opens you up when
you go list out an investigation or
someplace will you become the target
your defenses are down
even on a spiritual level or you're an
angry person you know so yes it's a
license light and you can that you were
saying that you could have an attachment
from that ok there's different levels
from attachment
you know whether its influence of
oppression and fest Asian obsession to
outright possession okay normally if
you're okay if something tries to
influence you they might hang around and
you might get like a weird let's say you
come back from all these places for a
couple of days you think it's stuff that
that's like that's not like like she's
really weird means sometimes you're
riffing stuff like what but then you
dismiss it and then it goes away or
you'll say something why did I say that
that's for bad or live and then it goes
away because depending on your lifestyle
your spiritual how you are spiritually
and by this I'm not saying in any
direction I'm just saying that it goes
away because it just cannot get in that
attachment it doesn't is not able to
surpass what it is but if you're not
there that you could get a very very
horrible attachment especially something
when you have a spirit that's not in the
presence of the nikon okay let's let's
go with the human spirit
that's spirit is normally angry
frustrated the worst human
characteristics are there either because
there are the presence of divine or they
would that kind of human being to begin
with okay and that's where you get a lot
of people if people think it's really
demonic you can have an attachment or
really bad person that was just a bad
human being
nothing per se as far as they're not a
human but and then I've had attachments
that people start after a while assuming
the characteristics and doing things
that really has to do they attachment or
the interference from hurts fear oh yeah
it's a it's it's a very it's a very
slippery slope and like you said the
fascination with that that right there
is your first then you have to like pull
yourself back and not okay and that's
the thing that I tell anybody
some people think of your fascination
with a paranormal like okay what they
see in the movies yeah weird stuff
furniture flies through here that's not
the way it works sometimes it will
unravel your life little by
okay it might even take weeks months
years I've seen that the point of origin
was a spiritual attachment where
somebody has an okay life like a sudden
it starts sliding god forbid you're on
the precipice I'm not doing that well it
will push you over and sometimes you
know how it works I tell anybody
it's your little voice that little push
to push you over the edge
- I don't have to be that major you know
like that football possession you know
your head spins around no no no all you
need is to do the one horrible thing
that you get that voice or that little
moment of madness for lack of a better
word if you do it
the thought takes that's all it takes
and I was downhill from there of course
that's when you see people that they
fall and engineered oppression focus
this isolation so on and so forth so
people can blame it on mental illness
and by the way one thing you can have
things some people say Oh either it's
spiritual attachments or it's a mental
illness no you have a behavior disorder
and this thing is making you a hundred
times worse then you would be without
that interference so I mean there's that
fascination you have to be really really
careful because I want to say that it's
been numb not want to say I mean I know
it's finally you think of a haunted
house or these people they're legends
roofie but you can be really careful
because people don't realize it
sometimes you you get more than what you
bargained for what are some of the most
convincing or intriguing stories that
you've read testimonies that you've got
experiences that you know to be true
whether they're your own or whether
you've read them from other people like
I have both I have my own experiences
you know I know other people's stuff but
what is some other like the what are
some of the meat and potatoes of whether
it's aliens demon spirits angels that
came through and just your stories in
them
you know I'm saying when winning when
the veil is standing they cross over to
the side what are some of the most
intriguing experience not you've heard
of young guy I think originally for him
to stop smoking he was up smoking in hey
by the way this guy had his life
together in a great job he was maybe
mid-twenties he was doing good his job
everything in his life and he came to me
and he asked me you know stop smoking
which by the way a lot of the people
that eventually did alternative hypnosis
with me started coming in so regular
stuff weight control that's a stressful
thing going on so one time he calls me
up and he says look I need to see me
about something
sure what is it and he says look I have
this problem where I don't usually drink
when I go out with on the weekends with
my Franks I have a couple of drinks i
black out and I start doing stuff crazy
stuff he has I wrecked stuff I've I've
run across highways my friends are
starting to get scared of going out with
me because and I guess and I can't
remember it he says they're telling me
yeah you did this and you did that and
it's just and I can't remember it and he
says it doesn't take that much alcohol
and I'm usually not a drinker it sounds
like somebody that was having blackouts
because hey you're drinking so much that
you're having blackouts and of course
you don't remember here's my friends are
like man we're going out with you is
like he says he had wrecked places I
said okay well it knows there's
something going on whatever just telling
me that he felt stuff like him since he
was 12 or 13 so what's really plenty of
usually I would I used to have another
hypnotherapist number with me and that
day she couldn't be there but says I
already knew him from before I said sure
come on over all right well I put him
under and guess what he had a demonic
attachment and this thing starts
making his body go talking to me in a
voice that was not his okay and by the
way when you put somebody there hypnosis
and everything and you this is not like
somebody off the street that I had no
idea who they were and you can tell
there's certain things that you could
tell and thankfully it was a low-grade
demonic attachment which meant it wasn't
that really intelligent was just really
malevolence and and basically this was
it turns out that this thing was
interfering that satellite come because
he was working in the field of illegally
for to stop human trafficking you call
the distinguished trying to sabotage
what he was doing in his regular work
yeah okay because at some point I was
like okay how do how does this happening
this is and then because believe it or
not there comes a point that they will
talk to you they do correspond back to
you and and now and now before you I
when I do this work I call on angelic
help okay I do call me tell excel at
protection and they're there and they're
gonna leave one way or the other
voluntarily are they gonna be taken out
you know it's like this is not like oh
you don't want to go because of course
you're not gonna want to go but I've
seen transformation and I was like that
of people with attachments and the
reason why I pointed that out is that
again people think that when you have a
demonic attachment you're acting weird
okay all the time you know like you got
to stand on your head like that
sometimes people can be acting kind of
normal or from the outside look like
have a normal life going on and then
stuff like this will happen and
basically what that thing was trying to
do was at some point that he would do
something so outrageous and but end up
getting arrested and then be real what
he was doing because he was at that
point he was working some attorneys that
would legally work in to stop human
trafficking and he was thinking to
himself he was studying eventually to
become an attorney specializing in that
type in that area
which is by the way here it's a very
intense type of work it is alright and
that's a whole thing as far as you want
to talk about demonic activity human
trafficking Jennifer there's the
hallmark of it that whole thing is
whatever yeah hey kids are cages and
stuff oh I mean just everything it's
because you have to understand one thing
is a smuggling and the other thing is a
trafficking to different things you can
use something to traffic somebody that
have been smuggled they get traffic in
the United States you know the child
prostitution
okay taken from one city trafficking
basically is taking them from one point
A to point B for the purposes of
whatever it is okay whether sometimes
it's prostitution
sometimes it's believe it I could even
be middle labor doesn't you know it
doesn't necessarily just have to be from
a sexual aspect so he was into that and
this is what this thing was doing and
luckily like I said I got it
well they I have seen just to kick it
out and it was but this thing this he
became a different person I used to have
like a one of those easy chairs you know
the ones that you pull your feet back up
that's where I was working my spy inside
and this he started to like his body
went like in ways that can I was
thinking of oh my god learning you know
all the things about to have your other
here out for you you know but it was
like one of these music when you're
there you got a handle it you can't back
down and part of it comes from having
enough belief in faith that you're
protected from a spiritual or angelic
realm okay as to really in other words
this is when you really really know if
you believe truly believe in your heart
what you say you know as far as being
protected or believing in angels or
calling for the protection of whatever
it is that divine God however you
whatever is that that's in your universe
that you feel protects you this is when
you really find out do you believe or do
you go oh no no no no no yeah and I tell
ya a lot of my cases were people that
would say there's a lot of times they
would end up
especially earlier when you know psychic
you know paranormal investigation is not
so popular people basically come to you
like you're my last hope
a lot of times I had gone to clergy or
anybody from the church if they have
even people that weren't Church but we
know what end up in the church asking
for help yeah for sure
we had a lot of people say look they
kind of told me that I was crazy I
didn't believe you
I said no they believe you no no they
don't believe yes they do really like
what do you mean I go they believe me
they're scared of it you're scared of it
they you come to them with marriage
problems with a kid that's a rule II
with some type of crisis they'll help
you they'll help you this they
understand you very well nine times out
of ten because when you work with people
that say whether you're a priest or some
fleur G you work with people you kind of
figure out who's the ones them not well
too tight when somebody walks in there
you know this person the legit that
describes them with a really scared or
you know you y'all that you telling the
truth but what are you gonna tell us I
believe you but I'm scared I'm scared of
helping you and this person turn around
say but wait a minute you're supposed to
be the leader of this church or this
congregation how can you be scared so
the alternative is to panic a little bit
dismissive or making a change a change
or that you know you're imagining it or
that yeah oh yeah they believe it all
those things I don't really happy a lot
of times like I said I would want to
cause those people that were at the
ropes end because who they thought was
going to help them because of this by
the way this is a spiritual crush okay
if you think they have some type of
infestation in your house whether it's a
regular human spirit a haunting a
residual something that's just you know
on a move it's normal for you to go seek
help from somebody that deals in the
spiritual you know that you don't go to
your therapist and go by the way I think
how it goes I hear these weird sounds or
somebody breathing on me when I would
sleep and you
is gonna go okay well let me pick out
let me take out my little prescription
I think if you could take this pill you
know that's not who you go to from your
oh yeah
and yeah that's a matter of fact that's
when I wrote one of my books
supernatural safety paranormal DIY and
in there you know I give a lot of ideas
and instructions on what to do for
people because people listen up you keep
them in power couple of instances where
a whole bunch will be the cavalry know
you need help on this but there's a lot
of stuff that people give away their
power to easily and they don't defend
themselves on a spiritual level inside
their home for themselves places where
they distrust you people these are the
hospitals to big crowds gotta be real
careful what could jump on you
I've had people when you ask me cases
you know when people you know sometimes
you try to figure out what's the point
of origin
what's your triggering event what does
it start happening for you you know and
you know you know I get people who think
well you know and it was like you know
well it was you know what you know what
I went to my friend's funeral there was
a mass of people and there was a lot of
people and what else you know and then
you backtrack something they picked up
and like I said it's slowly intrumental
okay and then you know it carries on I
mean there's a lot of different ways but
the fascination are absolutely
that's like come on down yeah sure I
want to talk to you I'm going to give
you an invitation that's another thing a
lot of these entities especially if they
are non-human especially they're not
they're waiting for an invitation people
don't realize an invitation is not like
us you know RSVP an invitation to the
exactly nice little set I'm fascinated
with you I want to communicate with you
I know you're really scared and it's
something you hear scratching under your
bed and you're like oh you know I would
do this no more it's like today yeah so
yeah I remember when I was in my dark
night in Dillon all type of crazy
witchcraft and opening my - spirits
which we talked about on your podcast I
called a bunch of charges like every
Church in the in the in the yellow pages
in my area and I called like 15 one of
them called me back out of 15 churches I
left voicemails I think it was like on a
Saturday left the voicemails and one of
those churches called me back they
believed you they believed as a matter
of fact 100% it wasn't a question of so
hard it's too hard too much work No
dangerous dangerous spiritually you're
like I'm that Peter power panseok's
or you might be pretending to do
spiritually okay but you're not even
though you might be many other
congregations the last thing you want is
to come up against something like that
so yeah I bet you a good majority on
your all people enjoy some comments in
the chat here I a lot of people want to
know what what all animals you got we're
getting some about the animals so right
now let's say we had a couple comments
they're saying here they say okay a
parrot
roosters birds and and there's a debate
if there's some monkeys in there or
chips I've got parents a lot of
different parrots
I've got 10 dogs which is probably the
month you heard or the dog - yeah yeah
and I've got a lot of chickens and
roosters I got free-range ones I don't
call them I don't kill them I just use
them for eggs as a matter of fact that's
what I supply most of my areas
agricultural people that want eggs from
for the
we hands or their much more color they
got an incubator
I saw the eggs from my chickens but I
got a free-range and I've hand raced
most of them so most of them just you
know my roosters and you know and
everything they're always wandering
right I don't have cooped up you know
they come in boosters yeah you can't
control animals and Adam said like a
Adam star seed Bay he's in the common he
said Wow all the animals stopped talking
when she stopped talking to the point
that I can only record my podcasts like
especially the other ones when I marry
at night because everybody quites down
oh and I want to tell you you know what
they weren't listening to the monkey
think it's a guinea hen yeah it's really
funny because at night you know most
people no birds will start your roots to
make quiet down am I oh my cave roost
and everything well when I they hear me
talking from a little mic it'll be 11
o'clock at night and I'll have my
roosters start rolling it it's like you
guys they hear my voice and they'll
start throwing unit which nighttime and
it's like I can't believe this
so yeah they they kind of like that
they're kind of they know my voice I
think mostly it's because I feed them
yeah I know they have some but yeah I'm
the food source on the lady with the yes
the hand that feeds and another question
here Christie wants to know the power of
meditation where does meditation come
into play with spiritual practice and
connecting with the divine and you know
having it definitely comes into play
with the psyche and with consciousness
right kind of getting a game plan and
quieting things down but for you where
does meditation come into play and your
studies on that meditation and I'm going
to tell you something especially
nowadays where you get so attached to
computer or being in front of a screen
or the TV and what I mean meditation
doesn't have to be that you get into
your lowest position and go from shell I
think that there's a time that we need
on a daily basis that
we empty our mind out that we just
sometimes it's just a thing what's going
on in my life just like no music by the
way that's very hard it's very hard most
people you know and I know it sometimes
when I do it I said poison I'm thinking
okay I'm here
but then I start like a mental you gotta
give yourself a few minutes that's doing
that and just empty your mind down and
meditate and whatever it is and if you
put out and receive okay matter of fact
a lot of inspiration when you do that is
when you hear it and I think we all are
human so you need that okay whether you
depending where you're at go outside go
someplace you know leave this phone
behind you know no no music will not be
and just let your mind wander and think
about stuff and process things and you
know and a lot of not so much what you
think what what you feel people confuse
these things what you feel might be
totally different than what you're
thinking okay and basically feel what
you're going to feel not fight it or and
then let some thoughts come forward and
just just like empty your mind out
listen type of meditation depending
everybody is different practice
meditation it's not when you have got to
have that moment apart and you until you
get into it you will fight it because
you're always I hate to say we
multitasking all the time it's like I'm
doing this and I'm already thinking what
I want to do next that type of man and
believe it or not that spiritually gives
you like um it's almost like an
all-knowing thing they just you know you
know that saying to thine own self your
true
nobody and I mean nobody getting your
parents will know you know you know your
stuff okay nobody nobody like yourself
and it's those moments where you start
learning about you the good of the bad
the ugly
whatever the implement all the
perfection of imperfection
can you acknowledge it and by the way
this is the time also when you start
learning self talk to yourself don't
talk to yourself the way some people
talk to themselves in other words you
can't yourself
that inner dialogue whether it's not
meditation you may be something stupid
that day instead of like it's like man I
made a mistake I should shoot again and
I mean you know nobody has to learn it
and that what I'm saying is meditation
could take a lot of forms and even if
you do it for a short amount of time 10
minutes depending on what you by the
time you die you need to do that I think
absolutely you need to do that and
basically you're become an Aussie it's a
practice of spiritual self preservation
control your weight yes yeah I think
it's really powerful too for all of
those reasons and those are the best
ones I like to do like you said just
just getting every thought out of your
mind and anything that comes in just
getting it out and focusing on nothing
just being sitting in silence at true
silence mental silence right you know
just the Scriptures talk about like how
powerful it is to sit in silence but you
know if we're not clear in our mind
we're not truly sitting in silence are
we because we got all these other things
on our mind that we want to do where
we're gonna eat tonight
what are we doing next weekend you know
and all these things come into play and
you got to work on silencing the mind so
sitting in silences yes so powerful yep
a lot of the good ones a lot of the ones
you should focus on because the creators
we have so many ideas as it is but when
you go there it's like okay which ones
are what's the ones you're taking shower
when you're kind of subconscious yep no
like man wait a minute what did I think
wait you know you have a problem or an
ID
I wasn't it like hits us wait wait a
minute why didn't I think of that yeah
you know it's when you empty out your
mind from that constant you know and
whether we do it you know like I tell
everybody you know like you know you
remember like a circular saw it's always
going
some people never turn off the circular
saw it's always me
turn it off yeah yep all right and let
whatever is gonna slip out slip in
without think about it you're all set it
you're right
shower for me it's like you don't say
cutting grass or jogging or something
cuz you're in somewhere that you can't
really escape like you have to you have
to do it whether you're taking the
shower like you know it's something that
your body knows how to do in your mind
doesn't have to be there kind of thing
I'm saying and then that's when it
happens a lot of time for a lot of
people they talk about using the
restroom sitting on the toilet because
all these inspirational things come to
them when they're not playing on their
cell phone I've heard like a lot of
Christian worship leaders right
beautiful worship songs and they say
well [Â __Â ] writers I was sitting on the
toilet and these words just came to me
you know when I wasn't preoccupied with
something else you know and they write
it down when they wake up in the middle
of the night sometimes even yeah and
they'll go and it's like like that 400
light bulb goes off in your head yeah
when I was writing the book I made it a
point to get up at like 4:30 every
morning and I'd step outside for a
minute
make me a cup of coffee kind of stargaze
stars were still out and then I'd sit
down and start writing but I'm just I'm
not that far out like everybody's still
asleep the world is at least my areas
more quiet and still right now and I was
just right and and sometimes it would be
weird stuff but I would just be obedient
just to get it out of me you know what
I'm saying like I'm not like I don't
know if this fits but since it's coming
to me
I'm putting it in
you know what sometimes ideas come from
and later on you figure out what in
other words it's like does that make
sense at the moment you get it or like
and then later on it does cuz again this
is the thing you know sometimes it's
fine it's really weird and it talks to
you in symbols okay if I say the word
trashcan you don't teach you the word
trashcan you see a trashcan you're mine
that's how your mind works that's how we
talk to you in symbols depending on what
the symbol means to you only you okay so
sometimes you'll get these ideas and the
symbology sometimes you get literally
what is there really and I hate to say
sometimes it's subconscious mind does it
it's been trying to get your attention
and you're not paying attention so
sometimes it shows that you know a lot
of weird weird dreams you know we have a
really weird week that you're like what
is that or who's that person I've never
seen that person in my dream
that's your subconscious trying to
communicate something to you that you
just not either recognizing on a on a
conscious level and that's why sometimes
it is important to know things and you
get the further side later on it makes
sense yeah the dreams can be weird
especially when they're places and
people that you only know in the dreams
like a town that you frequent in your
dream and you're you're starting to
learn the scenery and school that you
like a lot of times I'll go to school
like I'll be back in school again and
and this is a school that exists
somewhere there's like layouts to the
hallway but it's not it's weird you know
these people in these friends and these
things only exist in the dream state
pretty crazy I know I've never been I
want to go like I want I got like I feel
like I know these people and you wake up
kind of sad sometimes like damn I miss
my friends you know I wish they were
real we were so close you know what I'm
gonna I'm gonna talk about spiritually
and I was surprised sometimes
I missed what's currently going on with
your who should be seeing about school
points the creation of hopeless and
healthy lineup
oh my god are they crazy do they know
what they're really I mean people
understand really what a talk what is
okay you know it's basically a Tibetans
there's a thought one that you create
out of any tense you know and you
animate I think it's a point where it
becomes self-conscious and I'm seeing
that he's out there doing it I'm like
that's so dangerous because he takes up
a lot of times what you think is a
platform it's not your top one you know
and hear this do something there's a
lady who's her name her name is
Alexandra no it's like that she was a
turn-of-the-century she she snuck into
the Forbidden City in Tibet she did a
lot of studies in the mysticism and she
herself said she she tried and she
created a little monk out of her thought
forms and she says that eventually other
people started to see him around her
camp and she would dress a man and she
would she was going into Tibet and all
that to the point and she was very adept
at which was she started to undo him
because he speaks thirty some malicious
okay and other people started to be able
to see him you know when she wasn't
around so and I've learned you know I
had some people not everybody used to
know what a TOEFL was and now I'm seeing
that there's out there sites of selling
telling especially young teenagers how
to create a Tulpa because they're always
talked about it in my persona video I'm
not sure if I put it in my book or not I
know I was I felt like I deleted the
section that was I can't remember though
so but I talked about him in my in my
video that I did called persona talking
about channeling and creating entities
and things like that that we do I think
tattling is a form of that stuff as well
like creating these entities or you
getting in a persona the scapegoat
factor hey it wasn't me it was the one
arm demand you know and my imaginary
friend or the devil told me to do it
like no no he didn't want you blaming
the
you wanted to do that you know what I'm
saying like having a scapegoat I talked
a lot about I just had a psychology
behind the mind and how it works we're
dealing with these different types of
entities because they only exist to you
you know you go to the you know if you
was to call the doctor again while
having spiritual problems and tell them
you're seeing these spirits the doctors
not gonna believe you only you believe
you you know because to them they don't
exist so you know it's something that
you have to fight and you have to deal
with these demons that you've crowded
now can you imagine what you purposely
created basically there's you know I'm
talking about the total where basically
you think you're three animating giving
a thought form that you create a certain
characteristics and you made it a
certain way and supposedly at some point
it becomes self-aware and it's not on
your control anyway and you know I've
heard of people do it you know
especially if you're young and stupid
uh-uh it's like I'm not lonely anymore
and it's like I'm telling you right here
like you know what your friends need to
be made of flesh and blood
sorry you know what I'm saying
introverts don't make friends easily and
if they have friends maybe you don't
have a couple that's okay that's fine
but your friends need to be made of
Russian life I don't know if I talked
about this on your podcasts or not but
as I look back at my life as a teenager
I was alone a lot an overactive
imagination but a lot of my time I was
alone I had friends but there was a lot
of time spent alone and and now that I
look back on it some of the different
rituals occult rituals that I did trying
to make pacts were with demons was
simply because I was alone and I wanted
a friend literally like I was a teenager
and I'm trying to contact entities out
of the Satanic Bible just because I
wanted a friend isn't that crazy
yes you know what loneliness fear
rejection age those things by deep deep
yeah yeah hey will relate later what
we're a little bit older and life shakes
is about a little bit you realize that
was not stupid
but when you're that age it is and think
about it something that you conjure few
thing is always gonna be in your porn
let's face it so it's much easier than
making a friend that might betray you or
just some people they just you're just
dying it just they don't feel like being
around a bunch of people and then like
you said to become a little bit isolated
and next thing you know but they still
hunger for somebody that will dialogue
with them in a policy what you're
describing you know you know and I think
it's weird when it gets dangerous when
we get into demons and lower level
entities and stuff but part of the
reason I'm so infatuated was with the
Bible and God and my Christian faith is
the fact that some of these things that
were mentioning like it says that God
becomes that for you like for the UM for
the fatherless for that person who's
never had a father that to stay or
consistent mail a man figure like the
God says I will be a father unto you I'm
never gonna use I'll never leave you and
I'll never forsake you like and we see
women who have been through like
abandonment issues and yeah and multiple
divorces and now they're like you know
what I'm married to God why cuz he'll
never leave he'll never forsake you he's
like I'll be a friend to you he says
I'll be a friend that sticks closer to
than a brother and for me when I found
that kind of stuff out and it really
became real to me as when all that
lower-level stuff fell away and God
became my best friend you know and it
was a positive figure in my life verses
like these deceptive lower level things
that I was dealing with when I found the
beauty and the divine of the all which
is God as a father as a friend as a you
know whatever you knew him to be type
deal do you understand what I'm saying
it's I want I want you to be I want to
be a good friend not because you're
feeling lonely do you see what I'm
saying I should not be taking the place
of means I want you to live life as a
human being
yeah that's definitely no you're
absolutely right there's some of those
people where God is my friend and I
don't need any friends you know that
okay so yeah okay so your your with you
know what your this is so if you had a
friend and Christ I mean it's like they
don't hae that some some people believe
that and therefore some people like
that's the case now that I have friends
again I don't need God yeah
no it shouldn't be the reason God you
know divine whatever does it need you to
come to them out of fear of either or a
reward or punishment whatever the case
might be
kiss me as you really believe in it
suits your heart but it shouldn't take
the place of interactions with other
human beings because we are alive to
engage in life and run the risks of
being disappointed heart may be mistakes
you know we're gonna do that all the way
to the moment we die you know if you
want to be anesthetic and you know go to
the mountain and they're gonna rock
that's different but we are making
engage in life that's making choices I'm
being tested and saying and I really
last time I did that big workout that is
what we are supposed to be doing not
running away from living life and a lot
of people sometimes they substitute like
you said uh Christ might be my friend
that's great wants you to have real
friends now that you need to pick and
choose your friends absolutely yeah you
know but not to turn away from not
living life you're right there's a lot
of people to do that
there's a time maybe there's a time
maybe it's like to like get healing from
those areas when everyone's betrayed you
and you all you're only attracting
people who want to use you right this
needs to be a time where you step away
and you don't kind of examine it I think
that a lot of a lot of us have that time
where we kind of go through that
refining process or whatever and we have
to re-examine it but it is to to get
back in it
it's
to step away and I'm with you though
everything you're saying about the human
experience and knowing how you know how
we are divine but we're still human at
the same time and we're meant to go
through betrayal and her because it's
like how do you respond how do you come
back and it's like the whole world
whether it's literal people or the
spirit realm they're wanting to see how
you're gonna respond to rejection oh wow
they conquered rejection wow they
responded with love you know and that's
the it's a it's a it's beautiful and I
don't think we should be escaping all
the time right there should be there
definitely should be down time and
places that we go where we feel safe you
know what I'm saying but but we have to
get back in the game for sure find
yourself in a situation and you stop
yourself and you go wait a minute no no
no hold on and you learn a lesson in but
but some people their friend being faced
with that scenario again okay it's like
did you learn the lesson did you realize
that maybe the prior actions what it led
to
so you pull back and yeah absolutely
especially like what you described and
there's people that are trying to get
away from your friends or hanging out
with or places they've been to and they
what I call the fallow times that's when
you yeah you need to pick up your stuff
you know pick up your toys go home and
like you said cut off and just be with
yourself no no there's nothing wrong
with that
as long as you don't stay there though
so good it's like I feel safe I took
you've got to stay here and not talk to
anybody not interact with people and
cocoon myself and isolate myself that
take you there though it's like it's
like the whole all men are dogs type
deal just a min that you've been hanging
out get back in the game all men are
dogs there's someone out there for you
you know somebody's gonna treat you
right you know yeah we anyone you
sometimes you do need that downtime
because we all as human beings we seek
what we call a pattern of repetition we
want to fix that especially with those
relationships so I like Carentan stuff
we want to fix it and then we try to put
in stand-ins that are gonna behave like
that person originally did and that's
when you get people say I don't know why
a relationship it's because you are
repeating yourself and sometimes we need
time to figure that out about our psyche
and as a matter of fact that's a let's
say romantic relationship it's like you
know what for the next six months the
person that attracts you is not the
person for you it's a person that
doesn't attract you that probably would
be the best person for you so sometimes
you do need that Valentine to figure
that out and what I call self
preservation some preservation is not
only your physical beings like you know
you don't want anything to happen to you
there's such a thing as emotional and
spiritual soft reservations and it's
very important and there's people I hate
to say it sometimes have a death wish
you know when it comes to either their
physical life or their emotional life
where they they do things because really
what they're hungry for is to escape
life you know talking about that a lot
you know it's scary we can see it in
other people but we do it too like so
there has to be some healthy form of it
but I definitely know those people who
are always trying to ascend or leave
their body or spiritual practice is
their escapism but I think there are
there's healthy things but but we got to
be human we have to be we have to feel
it know what no what rejection feels
like know what being stabbed in the back
feels like know what pulling that knife
out of your back feels feels like know
what scar tissue feels like right know
what love feels like so there's a
healthy balance there and I think we
shouldn't embrace embrace both you know
the light and the dark and and in this
human experience because it's both but I
definitely see groups of people where
you know it's really an emphasis on
escaping you they don't call it that
they call it something else but you know
what I think I think addiction falls
into that but there's healthy addictions
and addictions that are killing you
right but anything that kind of helps
you not deal with reality right stop
soothing okay
people that sell soon with drugs I know
because heroin cocaine right we
associate and whatever at some point you
use it and all of a sudden I mean we
could get into you know with reward
centers in your brain and we're talking
something chemical but you know there's
such a thing as process addictions your
people gambling stuff like that and
basically you train in your brain
centers like you get a shot of endorphin
every time you do that but basically
what it boils down to you know those are
just symptoms but causes it soothes you
and soothing how can I tell you let's
say you've had a really rough day you
know especially for women how they say
I'll just go shopping you know when the
going gets tough the tough go shopping
that's okay you go for two three four
hours who's shopping and you distract
yourself from a big problem or something
that rough day yes okay that's fine you
distract yourself or you don't see
movies
the problem is when that's all you do
overtime and in things that are really
destructive okay and like I said earlier
anxiety you're gonna feel anxiety and
you're going to go you know like you're
fit you know the roller-coaster art goes
up a mountain you know that it goes up
and you're like I can't take this I hate
it mm-hmm none of peak but then it's
gonna come down it's not gonna kill you
but some people are very scared of that
anxiety as it melts up depending also on
your emotional makeup yeah not and
believe it or not once you go that you
desensitize yourself to the point where
when you get anxious and your hearts
beating and you feel real uncomfortable
you already start you know I know this
is gonna pounce in other words you
handle it once you go through that
experience enough times and you don't
need that self just you know that
distraction but yeah distraction in and
of itself is good it kind of lets your
head cool off a bit your notions even
sleeping on it you know that thing about
sleep on it yeah yeah the same thing you
sleep on it
distract yourself you just shift you
don't telescope on something maybe a
problem that's this big you see it this
big because you're like oh my god yeah
everything's
yeah the trawls whatever sometimes you
need to pull back and distract yourself
with something else let it go and then
when you look at again
it's a problem but not as bad as I
thought or you know what I thought of a
solution or you know you pull back your
perspective changes distraction is good
as long as you don't spend all your time
being distracted and then life just goes
by you well you would be distracted Mira
what do people think with let's say a
lot of stuff that we got the internet or
on the TVs or on the video games yeah
you know you're not living life yeah
yeah
do you watch Netflix at all yeah did you
see I don't f with cats no I have I
haven't seen it okay
watch it watch it it's good really ya
know if you could talk about it but it's
about it's about as a guy named Luca
manyara I don't know if you've heard
that name but he watch okay just watch
it yeah I wanted I don't know if we
could talk about it or not so yeah we're
talking about Thomas you know the mind
in the brain and how everything works
and so definitely psychology but it
plays a huge role in narcissism and
things like that which is what that's
about so definitely check that out
right and you know what believe it or
not everybody thinks of narcissism this
list of narcissism is a deep self-hatred
if you think of it the other way around
you know you think of the narcissus is
the person that's always like it's all
about me and I love me and me me me me
the best clothes the best thing and you
know everybody that's around them like
using them you know in other words if
you're not doing something for me get
out of here we are not the roots of the
narcissus is a deep deep self-hatred to
the point that they need constant
admiration or adulation it's the
opposite in other words from what it
looks like you know there's a lot of
narcissus that you'll see they're like
they look great you know wearing the
best clothing surrounded by the best
people you know I had to say a lot of
people in the entertainment industry are
narcissists and then when their life
derails and you're like what happened to
that person because really not the core
they rated themselves they eat it
themselves a lot a lot even though on
the exterior and looked like something
totally different
my friend a cult priests to see she
wants to know if you're talking about
Russell Brand lol what she's from
Russell Brand but also she a call
priestess wants to know your new zodiac
what's your astrological sound Libra
with an ascendant in Sagittarius and a
moon in cancer awesome so I really look
like a Sagittarius but all Libra my son
is a Libra and believe it or not my
astrological chart I really I don't have
that much sleeper in me so I for those
people you know if you're interested
ology you know most people know that you
know you're much more than what your Sun
Sign is as far as looks and emotional
makeup and things like that and believe
it or not I use astrology more from an
economics basis then for personal use
you know my personal uses for my
economic as far as trends and the
worldwide economy and banking that's
really what my interest is in astrology
but of course I had my chart done so
yeah so call priestesses thank you true
side I adored this lady I want to get
you on my friend I'll call precess I
need to get you back on here especially
all the notoriety you just got with
Jesse on Jesse's blog that would be
awesome well I really enjoyed it
you got your podcast your website I've
got five books out three are not are
nonfiction I just put out two two
starting in December these are
supernatural fantasies they're they're
out there it's what's called the water
between the worlds with one of the civil
chronicles I put out a novella all the
Diabolique which is a civil Nobel and
I'm working right now as a matter of
fact on my third one I'm like you know
which I'm trying to get out for the end
of March which is in that simple
universe which is a lot of esoteric
mysticism the supernatural as a matter
of fact the the the title and I'm
working as a path to purgatory I mean a
lot of the metaphysical spiritual
aspects all combined
and the other pinions between good and
evil how sometimes they overlap and the
reason why I say that is what we think
of as good and evil sometimes is grazed
in between where you know that's alien
grace they are they what are they are
they biomechanical that we need to go
down that road for my lab my lab there
was a there was something that I touched
on in the book just briefly just because
it's an interesting theory when it comes
to the greys is that because a lot of
people think that all aliens are demons
but there's this theory that those were
suits that the alien grades were these
suits that were made and in that suits
that were created for demons to inhabit
in control and give life to so these
demons that have these kind of meat
suits that they've somebody or something
has created for them whether it's the
government or aliens or whatever the
case you know you see some drawings of
some gray some of them are scary then
you see the other grades which are
really creating with the big eyes oh
that's so sweet it all depends because
of course you know that we do have as
human beings like we go for the baby
look the big eyes a small mouth huh that
for us makes us feel good we don't feel
threatened by it
in a way I'm trying to buy it I know if
I saw a great be like why wake up in the
middle of the night mewling what is that
in the corner of the room and it moves a
little bit [Â __Â ] do something to do
with the you know just a humanoid figure
that that I just kind of you know
without any features without any hair I
know I think it's Joe Rogan and some
other people talk about what like what
if they're Tom travelers what if they're
us from the future with we don't we
don't need muscle anymore because we're
not moving boxes we're not like we have
technology and machines do all of our
work we don't need you know maybe if
we're living in space there's the
different density
and I hadn't heard of that we're you
know having to see those aliens where
everything is cerebral we've got the big
heads and of course the rest of the body
is really minute not muscular and I'd be
like I hate think that we're gonna end
up with my parents you know because your
mind is it's all in your brain it's all
in your head
well it's either that or the opposite
which is from Wally
you know the cartoon Wally move out it
came out which are these really obese
people who were just moving yeah and
technology and eating slam and junk food
all the time and not moving you know so
it's one of the other it's the you know
and what we'll talk about that feeding
thing among people that eat guilt about
when you're eating when you're eating
he'll like you know how people eat
they're not supposed to and they're
ingesting guilt and a lot of it has to
do how it translates into what your body
actually does with the food when you
were you know I'm sure you feel
thickness now people talk about when
they put certain things which are
feeling when you're cooking is what
people that eat the food feel like in
other words a passed on here yeah yeah
thing same concept as in when you're
eating stuff good stuff yeah we getting
a we getting the the chat riled up with
his alien thought they were talking
about Aleister Crowley and lamb and our
L AM lamb which is interesting I mean
that that whole thing I mean because
that's what he drew right I mean but
it's just a humanoid this is just a
humanoid being is you know absolutely he
was in touch with something now what it
was you know you have to go by what
works intentions and his intentions of
course where he was trying to grab on to
something that was you know obviously
not divine okay but and I've seen that
that long that how much of it and you
know what without being there which none
of us were how much of this was really
did happen versus what he wrote was like
HP Lovecraft to like when I was doing
all the Satanism stuff and and Wicca and
olives I was just trying to make pacts
with entities the most scariest one
it scared the hell out of me was the
Necronomicon and that was one that he
admittedly just kind of made up and made
all these entities up but we were just
talking about tapas though creating him
creating them and you know I talked
about Lucifer the fact that like in far
from a biblical reference Lucifer is not
a not the devil or it's a title it means
Light Bearer but I got friends who were
like yeah but we've given him that title
and and now we've created Lucifer and we
any responds and answers to that name
and you know so these ideas that embody
the essence of an individual that we
created you know when it comes to HP
Lovecraft something that didn't exist
but I was scared to death to do those
rituals I wouldn't do them there was all
these other vibes
which were basically hated human beings
and when he you know of course and then
you know he had those town are calm and
the Necronomicon and the aza red which
is the arabian magician who had was the
source of the Necronomicon all those
things like you know basically the end
was the end of human beings the
enslavement of human beings or you know
you know that there was part of his
story of you know that's you know
Vermont setting where you had people
that were basically amphibians you know
family was a piteous a lot you have to
give it to him back that he he was
really thinking outside of the box
although he was way out who else did
that the whole the founder of the the
church so it is it the uh which one God
come on the alien Church the Scientology
oh yeah l ron Hubbard did it it made of
religion and you know he was but I heard
that he was also doing doom on at the
very beginning this was what he was
establishing and even he was working
with somebody that went on later to do
develop rocket science and then of
course and he was also doing work with
dark practices
this was at the very beginning and I
think at some point especially if you
study humans you realize I got a
sugarcoat this people are not gonna go
for this you know I'm you know voting
demons I gotta make it like I'm saving
their souls stuff you know he had a
whole bunch of books like he was just
like a inet it was that big one that
first one that really took off yeah yeah
and the 58 if you if you read let's say
if you read the blurb about dyeing eggs
that's a really interesting idea which
is a power of your mind
it's great the concept obviously there's
something to it to get all these people
following it like you know but boils
down to this ball control because some
of its based on the work of Freud it
says in Eastern philosophy which that's
a thumbs up for me you know one thing is
when you learn to control yourself
another thing is when I want to control
you and basically that's what ends up
with a lot of the police and Scientology
is that you surrender control on
yourself and I have a problem personally
speaking surrendering control myself to
another human being the divine is
different you other another you maybe
I'm Apollo hierarchies
okay hit maybe you call it distrust but
when somebody wants that total surrender
especially especially in a spiritual
level of your spiritual beliefs I think
that there's a lot of danger in fact one
thing is to participate in a group and
another thing is when you're asked to
surrender all your control you know even
when you might even against yourself
against your own self-preservation and
from what I understand Scientology
eventually that's where the leads even
though at the beginning a lot of these
things that sounds great you know some
of the principles of it when you start
getting into it they sound like no man
learning yourself and you know your mind
is the source of a lot of your problems
and controlling your thoughts and all
that it's like yeah that that sounds
possible
but then it goes downhill from there as
far as I'm concerned certain other
police stuff has to come out of a
creative mind or an overactive
imagination right I mean Joseph Joseph
Smith you know and address a hundred you
know because a lot of people say
especially nowadays that a lot is it
just people are spiritual honey I think
we're always being spiritual hungry okay
and and I think that they are really
smart enough to figure out there's a
slew of people running out there that
want somebody to say come here it's
going to be okay I'm gonna tell you what
to do
and by the way since I'm telling you
what you do I'm taking away
responsibility are you making a mistake
because believe it or not that's what it
boils up to people being afraid of being
responsible for their actions and if you
hand it over to a reader guess what
you've just released you shall be off
the hook
you're being told what to do where to go
what to do comment I'm not responsible
you know responsibility it takes a lot
of courage someone in the chat says that
some of Crowley's work says the Crowley
has it not can't confirm or deny this
but it says some of Crowley's work goes
into sexual interactions with children
and killing them to create energy now
that's black magic I don't know I've
never I've never read that I know you've
heard a lot of and everything sex magic
something a lot of the most powerful
magic in society in South Florida I know
I seen it it's a sack bloodletting I
mean it's almost like it's almost like
an expose of the damn government in like
some of the higher realms of Masonic
orders and things right I mean starting
to hear about now with Epstein and all
this kind of stuff well that's a lot of
you know a lot of people think of you
know ceremonies where you have
bloodletting especially human penis by
the way I'm sorry we're important that
important
we're in everybody thinks of the
tradition on altar some dark place and
everybody's wearing a hood but what if
the actual bloodletting is a larger
sphere yeah it's a tank driving through
a small village in in my yes exactly
it seems like it's taken down a building
in New York to building listen to offer
to gods to get power I'm sure you think
well it was a disaster was a tragedy but
what if I'm a metaphysical level we're
not talking here our physical on a
metaphysical level it was done for a
certain reason
yeah okay and that's what they're saying
sometimes you have to look beyond well I
believe that a hundred percent and then
they want to ask me who am i voting for
after I was like writ read all these
books and done the knowledge that who
you vote inform like man you'll get on
my facebook you know what I wish and I
know I'm being very because that's the
same with Wars you know when you look at
the history of human beings that was you
know we never get it you know what I'm
saying
we don't I don't know if it's something
in our nature or if it was a question of
service on a time where you either
defended yourself or you attacked and
you know after and enter yours but I
mean I can take it where sometimes
people do stuff on a personal level but
that wholesale slaughter of human beings
that to me is on a spiritual level I
think one of the most offensive things
that can happen okay because a lot of
times that people that are killed are
our innocence and what I mean innocence
I don't mean that you're not even a
soldier per se you know that will you go
in there that you know you're engaged in
battle you just happen to be as along
please it's a long time the agony the
suffering what goes on with that and
that's one of the things that I wish
that would happen at some point and I
don't know if it's in our nature we can
ever slightly basically disengage that
from our nature where we were that
doesn't happen
I don't have to that that's I think
that's the that's the test of humanity
so I eat you know how we talk about the
journey in the tests that we're taking
individually and it's about love and
responding with peace and overcoming and
things like that humanity is taking that
same test as a collective and I think
that the more that we do it individually
it changes the the collective eventually
now what's going to happen how many
years it takes a lot longer for the
masses of people to wake up but I do see
like that all of us have to choose love
and and we're looked at and we're judged
upon like nations and things like that
by the the collective of the people with
what song is what fragrance is rising up
from that people whatever you know what
are their beliefs what God do they
worship what what are they doing and so
I really do believe that there's us as a
people will maybe have our place amongst
the stars once we reach this level of
Ascension and choosing love and it's
bound to happen or we're gonna destroy
ourselves one or the other when you have
one source water one way or the other is
your it's a metaphysical reason
something happens not another which is
not for conquest it's not for this or
that material stuff is nonsense I think
what we're doing that are you know these
nations are going warm we're backing and
what if that's it looks like that
but really what it is it's not a
metaphysical level they miss spilling
blood yeah 100%
I believe it you know very very very
dark magic or well you start you start
looking into some of these people who
are leaders and you find out that
they're all related
and they're all in these weird secret
orders you got a temple built the deaf
scene had a temple that he flew leaders
out to trompin all the leaders that you
know people is demonic man people think
that they're just like us they might
they might not even be human as far as
what we're yeah you know bacon
different taking me totally did we yeah
that's like but then you think okay
these are people that have so much money
so much well so much everything that you
know and let's say if it came to sexual
gratification you could have any
girlfriend whatever she yeah why are you
needing to go to this island in the
middle of the Atlantic of the Caribbean
unless the setting is important you're
not you understand what I'm saying so
yeah I think that people are getting a
little bit of an idea of flavor what was
really going on and I hate to say that
but if you think I've seen it was the
only one that was procuring no no I
think I think it goes back to uh it goes
back to the Garden of Eden in the Bible
it was where you believe that was
literal or an analogy is that people God
says hey eat from this tree
don't touch that tree not that one you
can't have that one and which tree do we
want the one that we can't have and so
these people who have reached these high
places of authority and power and money
and they can have anything that they
want what's the one thing that you can't
have and that's the one thing that they
want children I hate I think you have to
be co-opted even from a very young this
is what kills you in other words that I
don't not going to give the person the
out of being so well as they're so jaded
like we were saying hey what else is
love there has to be because something
feeds your soul when you go to the point
of either of using a child sexually
molestation bloodletting cetera there's
something that we create your soul
essence was corrupted very early on in
life and then so effective probably
helped you get as wealthy as you did by
the way you should probably ran people
over like on the way up know that I
think exactly you have to clutch people
out that's capitalism like you've
already you've already you're already in
bed you can't get up there unless you've
went up the ladder of a sudden of course
this is the persona you present to the
world you're very successful or whatever
but that corruption was with you long
before you got up there as matter fact
that's
yeah by seeing it now I I have
gatekeepers there's gatekeepers I gonna
make sure you wit them hold on he's not
with us no you can't yet to be welcomed
into the gentlemen's clubs you got to
come to our parties I don't want to be
mean but there's people in in the chat
talking about how you know Trump never
went to Epstein's Island Trump party
down with Epstein that was his homey
like that way they got tons of pictures
together with at parties and you know
how many writers singers perform your
celebrity artists if you went out on the
page of the people that were powers you
your stuff never got teams
no you wouldn't promoted if you went out
on the right page with them
you know what I'm saying or they once
you made it you would've looked around
so what in the world is this you know
and people I think a lot of creators
were never got a chance or a break
especially now you know what things that
you can do your own thing but you know
what's a lot of time where they keep it
maybe we didn't let's bring you in just
say use your stuff never got seen
whatever it was I think that a lot of
people the creator's never will
recognize their work we don't recognize
because they just wouldn't have been up
for what was happening they they got
denied it's like now your slips not good
but why because it's not really the
problem with what you were creating is
who you were that would have been on
Weinstein have you seen them how you see
them hopping into port I haven't seen
anything recent well they've shown me
going you know those lily walkers you
know old people use you know when they
can't walk he's using one of these
walkers to go at the port and you look
at him you all my god it's like this guy
was you know a preying on you know
beautiful starlets you know peaceful you
know people not to try to make a
Hollywood image you know nuns pretend
like he's this old guy I'm hobbling
about it
yeah he coached and worked with actors
these people are actors and there's some
of the best riders on the planet
they write movie scripts and and and
things that pull us in and there's
something that they've done that we've
talked about or you know with these
shows like The Walking Dead Breaking Bad
is they take these people they take
these villains and they let them do all
these vile despicable things they've
killed women and children they've right
people they've done all these despicable
things but then they have this arc in
their storyline where they have a
come-to-jesus moment and now we're
rooting for the person that we wanted to
die negan from the walking dead
I loved his character but people but
there's a lot of people who were like
they still can't get over that he killed
their favorite characters in the show
and come all the vile stuff that he did
but the writers have a way of making us
root for the bad guy you know cuz we see
that we see their humanity and stuff in
the same people who write these stories
and stuff in deep Hollywood and like
they they're writing what we see on TV
with all the politics and elections and
hey I need you to come in here and look
pheeba I need you to take this cane this
cane needs to be this color by the way
you know and all of this kind of stuff
it's a place psychological stuff that we
don't even know we're watching it like
it with it's reality TV and there's no
such thing
reality TV is scripted so you think this
is not real but this that's real
redemption is a great story what people
if you want to call the villain that
someone where rather they get it and
they they redeemed themselves a
Redemption it almost sounds like we said
when the the villain ends up being the
hero without being redemption it's like
okay that happened you know because he
gets the best out of everything he
survives how you want to call it yeah
I've seen that in storylines in
Hollywood I love it we all love it it's
something on the inside of most of us
that love it but there's those other
people they know don't believe him he's
not reformed and a lot of times they
still come back to bite you on the ass
yes they come back we always rooting for
him and then his true colors still came
out at the end he killed your favorite
character or whatever it is you know
it's like and all those other people
have told you he was evil I told you
that's the kiss please he has told you
he was still wicked you know too much so
we're we kind of think that that's
reality and like you know realities
which you're living yeah it's like
watching an actor get up there and
receive an award and give you this
speech like they're playing a character
in a persona that is accepting a reward
Joe Rogan he's in Hollywood I listened
to his stuff sometimes but he he's like
I can't he's the actors are creepy man
because you cuz they they just know how
to boom hey this is who I am today this
is a role that I'm in and he's like and
like as far as the narcissism behind it
and we're watching these people on TV
and they're not like us man and and I
mentioned Joe Rogan let me and I throw
this out there a couple times Joe
Rogan's uh he's a bro he's a UFC
commentary he's one of us but every now
and then when you listen they say stuff
that's like oh wow they tell you how
they really feel about the working-class
about the people on the low-level tiers
of the pyramid and they'll make little
jokes and they'll say stuff about the
guys changing oil at Jiffy Lube and
they'll make weird jokes as I hold on
it's sapping out even though you're a
bro and you're you do you're you're like
a billionaire bro like you're you know
but you're one of us but it's not the
case and every now and then they let
that stuff slip and I catch it and I'm
like that's man I can't believe you said
that you know and it came out maybe not
everybody catches it but I caught it man
he's one of the common people I mean you
know what maybe even Trump kind of he's
you know Trump is not them he's one of
us you know there's that narrative of
people where you know you identify even
if it's not where they're at now but
their background you know what it came
from
yes he's self-made he didn't you know
and right right nobody gave him a
platform he created it you know
sometimes people
yeah and I've heard that and you know
it's very let's face it I'm gonna go
with the actors what you do for a living
you're an entertainer you pretend to be
other people
you know sometimes weak and I hate to
say it but sometimes people with
celebrities they think they walk on
water it's like just an it that's just
an entertainer you know sometimes they
don't at all in your universe you know
the normal things to all of us think of
it like when you say I gotta go change
the oil in my car hey I got to do this I
got people do that Porter what do you
think yes they for better for worse
which by the way we should be thinking
about is how I live my life my life my
reality okay and not try to imitate them
there's so much because let's face it
it's not gonna work but we always look
at it as like oh how many times have you
seen these celebrities that look like
they've got it made your beautiful
beautiful house a lot of money the car
celebrity and all of a sudden they
commit suicide or their life just oh man
it just implodes and you're like what or
you find out these harmless things what
I thought this person has perfect life
because that was with Hollywood or their
handlers where he's when she was allowed
to see yeah yeah yeah yeah so believe it
or not I'm gonna say being average is
usually the key you know you have the
best chance to be happy but here's who I
want to be happy for consensus like
which is right to food I do you think
that's what fills the human soul being
average is your best shot
and by this I don't mean not to strive
absolutely I think you should strive and
one thing I'm talking about when we're
talking about Huffer upper upper echelon
let's say a pyramid like I said the food
chain in society it might look like man
I'd be thrilled if I was there probably
not you know probably not yeah you pick
up on stuff every now and then and they
let it out and they like they forget
it's almost like they forget that people
are watching and I talked about like um
what says uh what does her niece and
rubella you know in the penis facial
that she she gets and uh Alan my gosh
okay I talk about this all the time but
it's just an example she was on Ellen
and Ellen was trying to outer maybe they
talk about this public humiliation that
is about something that the elites have
to go through as well but um so she was
on Ellen and Ellen was like hey tell us
how you look so young cuz she's like fit
to some years old and she looks like
she's 23 and they're like oh well I just
take good care of myself she's like yeah
I know there's a product you use what is
it and she was laughing like well it's a
facial cream
what kind well it's uh you know what's
it made out of
and she was like trying to out her
because she knew what it was and she's
like well it's skin it's made out of a
skin Sandra Bullock uses the fort
blended up for skins from Korean babies
that is made into a paste that that
helps her skin to look young vibrant and
beautiful and they were just like
laughing about it I was a hold on this
is a normal man this is a normal and
laughing about it and this is kind of
people were talking about you know that
has a flavor of baptism in a way I hate
to say it you know whether you want to
look at as a life force that you might
think well maybe we're just looking at
the components I'm like what's in it
organically chemically but if we look at
from a metaphysical there's a flavor of
vampirism you know might be has to
collect those things or I get it in a
tube if we go into that you know the
actual blood you know suckers you can
tell it's just finished watching the
strength the series i benched on that
for anybody that ever saw that you know
but anyway the come on you mean you're
so wealthy that you
probably get any facial cream out there
Oh God come on like just technically I'm
sorry I want the one that works and it
just so happens to be the one that
matches those blood injections under the
skin just okay I'm all good with trying
to look young and pretty and whatever
you're an entertainer but where do you
draw the line with just you're getting
old hello it happens Shelly and the chat
says Angelina Jolie uses placenta on her
face but yeah there's this snippets all
over the internet on just at just type
of Sandra Bullock facial cream I mean
like they a lot of them have have
covered it like it was a thing but it's
accepted its laughed about and like we
were saying how much of this is like
what you said that Ellen was trying to
out her or maybe they're not it like
okay this would be great for the show
yeah they thought it was funny yeah it
was like funny I want you to play really
reticent like you know we talked about
it and then I'm gonna keep asking you
that scripted that that's scripted you
can't you don't just go in there and
just hey we're gonna wing it no you got
publicists who are in the corner like a
lot of time even on Joe Rogan they'll
look at the publicists in here nope
we're not we're not talking about it
we're like a real conversation you
should better make up do you wanna
address us or not in the same way like
all that stuff scripted I get I get
emails from publicist all the time and
and I got papers here you have to ask
him these questions
I'm not asking those questions I'll try
to weave some of them in if they're good
and and and what happens a lot of times
as I'll ask them naturally anyway
because they you know with their book
and the things that they're promoting
but it's like this you have to like send
these people questions and we think it's
organic and it's like not this is all
scripted it's like come on that's what I
want to talk to you about you telling me
not to mention this conversation Oh
Sandra you look so young yeah I use
penis cream you know it worse is up well
oh you know this cream really
but what is it you know so he was like
what what is it what is it you know what
it's all entertainment entertainment not
real life and and I hate to say because
of the celebrity status you pointed out
it's like except of course she's a
celebrity so she uses pre-made Oh baby's
foreskin that's really gross it's like
yeah I think there's a price to pay for
all of that stuff too whether it's the
divine coming to collect at the end you
know God or whatever you know entities
that you've made pacts with that hey we
gave you power we gave you Fame now it's
time to pay up so there's this thing of
like wanting to live forever with the
elite because they don't want to pay the
piper like everybody's got a given
account so I believe that they believe
that they know that you know that that's
that's one of the differences where
people again people trying to live
forever and carbon no I've heard of I
don't never watch the joke because
that's exactly the theme that your
consciousness is basically down to a
sliver and you you're inserted and if
you have money you get a new body like a
new skin suit because your consciousness
like a little disc basically as long as
that body that you using has no head
trauma or to the neck basically and if
you're wealthy and you know basically
you you hear immortal because you just
get transferred on into the next pockets
are very interesting I mean it's sci-fi
no concept behind it is along the lines
of what you're describing when you're
looking at some of these celebrities
that they talk about being Tom travelers
as far as like in every century there's
like an identical pictures of a famous
person that was yes coming from wealthy
families that we have their pictures and
they look like they've it's the same
person there's a bunch of them there's
like they every every Reese what's the
other guy played in the knowing the big
one he's kind of like a knockoff actor
now because he plays in so much stuff
somebody help me out in the chat here
you guys know what I'm talking about
he's the main one to go to whenever
you're thinking about the time-traveller
actors another chat will help me out
maybe let me just type it in the knowing
movie cast what is his name
Nicolas Cage oh okay Nicolas Cage Wow
yeah that's the that's the convincing
one for me is the Nicolas Cage one
there's all these old pictures of him
there's a bunch of them with the
celebrities it's interesting and it's an
interesting theory whether it's real or
not I will tell you that I mean a lot of
a lot of these celebrities we have they
look like some of these Emperor's and
maybe they're even just from the same
bloodline maybe it's not they're not
eternal maybe they are from the same
bloodline like hey we got in you know
there's a book called the 13 bloodlines
that talk about the Illuminati and the
ones who rules who run the world or rule
the world whatever you want to say but
there was a little girl who did that uh
that science project and showed you how
all the presidents and all the a-list
celebrities were like distant relatives
a separation like that yeah yeah well I
don't know how when you talk about those
pacts you've heard of a 27 club right
all those celebrities that have died
whether 27 oh and there's a bunch of oh
and it's almost along the same lines
that they made a pact of Fame yeah so I
mean that makes sense with all the all
the time now man in other words the 27
is like you you use chain of fame and
the celebrity and because you afford to
die when you're 27 you never grow old
that's way too young but yeah I think
it's a thing now in most of these are
big people are weird Jimi Hendrix Kurt
Cobain Janis Joplin Jim Morrison Amy
Winehouse I'm pretty sure the list just
keeps going on and on
yes that guy that job was on um
Oh God that he was in the last Star Trek
movies uh was his name that he played
check off you know the remakes of the
new Star Trek movies the name escapes me
okay yeah I know any time out yeah yeah
I can't really remember his name he got
burned over by his own Jeep yeah really
weird some some of them are suicide some
of them are here guests and part of the
thought behind that is that you don't
real old since you died when you're 27
you're always remembered as in
beautiful-looking whatever that's
definitely true though
with like whether it's a conspiracy or
not as far as like they're making a pact
with the government or the devil or
whoever
oh it's more like a metaphysical pact
kind of like a deal like you get that
fame and fortune and some of them by the
way are trying out like you know once
you make the deals then you want to
really put it in the music how old was
Tupac how old was Tupac when he died 25
but I mean I mean that's the thing
though is dying at the height of your
career that's what you remembered as I
mean we wouldn't be having this
conversation about the you know the
legends if you will because we didn't
get to see them you know fall we didn't
get to see the stars fall we've seen
them die at the height of their after
their fame whether we're talking about
two pots Tupac is a legend we didn't get
to see him get caught up in fads and and
some of these are realms of hip-hop
music that came and only was stayed for
three years and now it's laughable that
it was a thing like I feel like what if
he would have got up got into some ad or
did some of these songs with these
people and a good thing for me is is the
group Bone Thugs and harmony which
they've continued putting out music over
the years and there's a lot of music
that at this point it's not good anymore
but they're continuing to put it out
because they were legends are living
legends and they don't get the respect
that they their peers got but all their
peers are dead we're talking about to
pop Biggie Smalls eazy-e they're going
to be remembered
maybe my no they're kind of bitter that
their name is a mention in my song you
didn't get we didn't get to see you far
like we got to see Michael Jackson
follow though right he was trying to
like come back but we got to see him we
got to see Bill Cosby fall you know yes
still alive but we got to see him fall
it's not good our Kelly we seen him fall
we're seeing all these stars fall you
know what they want is he is he
especially if they grow older Zaid
sometime a legacy a body of work okay
and some of them are smarter they kind
of pull back and they fade like a if
that's it I don't want to be out there
the public eye anymore because I'm not
that person I was and I'm work behind
what Marilyn Monroe everybody thinks
Marilyn Monroe she died when she was 36
all the you see any image of Marilyn
Monroe's when she was beautiful if she
wouldn't have died and he would have
seen her age do you think she would be
as famous as she was as she is now know
any of them I mean Bob Marley Kurt
Cobain these people that are mentioned
on this 27 club like there's so many of
them because we didn't get to see him
fall yes no now that immortalized at the
top of their success Tupac again man you
know there's a certain seduction about
that that's not good
some people think oh yeah you know what
I'll be famous and he's like you know
what that was the creepy thing Kobe said
Kobe Bryant with you know I'm not I
don't I know we're talking about some
theories and stuff but I'm not real big
on conspiracy
I'm not I'm not big on people spouting
facts these are theories they try to
look at these conspiracy theories as
their facts and this these are just
theories so I'm cool with that but um
Kobe he was telling people he wanted to
die young you want it he didn't wanna
you know he wanted to be remembered at
the height of his his game and what he
brought to the table he and he was
conscious of this he told Tracy McGrady
that and I had tried some McGrady spoke
about it in an interview so I mean like
that and it sounds very hard say like Oh
in theory is
romanticize for lack of a better word we
got young well-known famous until you
get then you realize I want to live
thought it was a great idea to died
young and famous I'd rather you know
that guy hurt Douglas just passed away I
like a widow it was 104 you know what
yeah he was old and he feeds a
background at the end of the day I'd
rather live my life yeah peach have my
body work you know popular stuff but you
know what the spotlight then notoriety
the fame it's not even about the money
that becomes people become addicted to
see having some type of recognition yeah
being forgotten I mean that's the
biggest being forgotten
you know nobody knowing who you are I
mean I was talking with a friend the
other day about you know heaven in hell
you know and there's there's a sect of
Christianity that kind of like the
Jehovah's Witnesses and some of those
guys seventh-day adventists that believe
in annihilation that when you die you
cease to exist in Esther the fear of
death is you don't do not even conscious
that you're aware that you're here or
gone and or that you ever exist it and
so for me I'm like burning in hell may
be a better option because you you still
exist you know what I'm saying and it's
not that total oblivion or annihilation
you know let's say for somebody that
this is how they make a lot of people
think of these people and said well they
became wealthy because of whatever they
did whether they were an actor
entertainers but there's a lot of it
that there's a lot of these people that
they keep going that you go man how much
money do you need it's not about the
money anymore it's because they need
some type of adulation recognition that
they still matter okay and they refuse
to and and some of them that's why it's
sometimes they look at they romanticize
these people that were famous that died
really young or some piece of tragically
and unhappily oh that you know and it's
like oh yeah I'd rather live to be an
old age thanks you know even if you know
my star shines and then it got eclipses
which by the way is usually what happens
with celebrities it's like I'll deal
with it you know but as for some people
like those 27 club basically what
they're saying is that they may have
packed
they may
some type of deal whether your starts
gonna shine bright and then it's gonna
go out yeah yeah and it's like you know
I've been I'm really big into the Bible
you know that but into the UM send a
metaphysical aspects of it the the
allegory what does it represent and
jesus's life representing humanity or
even representing our life and you know
in Revelation talking about these
different things that we go through and
then the stars falling right again the
stars falling and how its likened to you
know our stars and our idols that fall
from the heavens and are cast out and
and cease to exist you know you could
definitely see the parallels there with
the Stars being cast at the fallen
angels even you know being cast out of
the heavens of Hollywood or notoriety
and fame you know what really comes down
to is what fuels your being from the
beginning and getting back to what we
were saying with this thing with what's
your face with the penis is that we also
have in our society of fear becoming
hold which is the it happens to all
living things by the way yes you know oh
I mean don't get me wrong I don't think
like you know if you can aging
gracefully well you know what the and
then there's a line of thought that says
people sometimes act their age because
society dictates hey when you're that
age this is how you look and this how
you behave you know I get that
don't become old before your time either
but at the same time there's people that
become fanatics eyes that they don't
want the clock to go forward for them at
all you know it's like what it's not
like any of us want to I mean that's the
biggest scary thing but it's like what
are you gonna do when you find out you
know like when you start going and we
see these these pious people or even in
the Christian realm getting so much
plastic surgery done today they're
starting to look weird they look weird
and it's like hold on you guys are
supposed to be a symbol of virtue and
and beauty and aging and being graceful
women but you guys are getting all this
work and you're in the your pastors
wives and ministers and leader we new
Hollywood does that but when you guys
are competing with Hollywood it's like
hold on
is the same y'all [Â __Â ] up from the same
cloth oh my goodness it's so crazy where
did you get such puffy lips like that
yeah and I hate to say that cuz I mean I
got friends who are doing it and their
religious leaders and they're getting a
lot of work done but for me it's like
you know we want to hold on to some type
of like humanity or you know the state
of just natural the natural order of
life and and things in you know all of
us like [Â __Â ] my own aside might my
hair's grain here on the side should I
dye it part of me wants to dye it
the other half is like now let it go
ahead and come out do his thing you know
raise out of my beard and put on the
facade a lot of people think I'm a lot
younger than I am you know and so it's
like hey do I be young and hip you know
and be a rapper and you know all of
these things that these these personas
that you have to have rules that come
with them oh you can't do that and that
you know you know some cream I
understand that I get that you know
that's fine yeah problem comes when
you're want to escape the reality that
you're a human being that's gonna age no
matter how much and then that's when you
start when people do these certain area
looking like fan you know you stopping
you're not human you know you got stuff
on your face like you pull that thing
anymore tighter you know and you know
like but then you know now I could see
Hollywood man but it's the weird thing
when it happens in in the church because
you cuz it they're on a different level
for me but but really it's like there's
a reason that these people are like mega
pastors and they have deals and all the
book deals and it's not free you know
what I'm saying so they're there with
all of these different movements and
these religious leaders are world
leaders were talking about Hitler and
Trump and all these guys they've always
had the church behind them
they've always had their
spokesman in the religious right Trump
has choppers like it's been interesting
as a Christian watching Trump get the
religious right around him and they're
trying to teach him Christianity there
he doesn't know how to hold the Bible
which way to hold it they're teaching
him how to pray they're laying hands on
him he's looking at him funny like what
did you get your hand off of me dog I
don't let anybody touch it like this
they're teaching him Christianity and
it's been interesting to see and uh you
know but but the the church has always
been there with these leaders and you
know and it doesn't mean their
righteousness because you know this
thing supposedly stands just because
they have a Bible put it that way you
want to reach the masses that is the way
you reach the masses I hate to say it
especially now with television and you
know it's the before you have radio and
newspapers and you know of course that's
why but now the way the media works if
you want to reach the masses and when I
talk to masses we're talking worldwide
we're not even talking yeah locally
that's how you do it this is how you you
know first you have to be it's called
it's called media training to like as
media training you know you have to be
taught there's a lot of these new people
who become viral and they get an agent
they put them through media training
again telling them what to speak on
don't say this don't you ever say that
do this this is how Christians act you
know in the Trump case and uh it's just
been interesting I can see it man you
saying where was the jump off point
where this stopped being something
spiritual and it became a money-making
entertainment thing that's the problem
idea what we've run into where yeah
where the thing it becomes it's it's
transformed into something else and
unfortunately when when the people are
looking for some of these leaders for
spiritual guidance you know hope they're
it's like this is not the person you you
think is really gonna give you what you
should be believing in yeah you know
what and he will tie this in with going
back to what I said at the beginning
when the CEO the head high
from the company came down and everybody
was scared everybody he had a persona
you know and as a whole this guy and
then I I was able to meet him he was a
regular man but there's a spot on this
this reputation that preceded him and
we're responding to something that's not
real it wasn't real it was it was made
up it was marketed it was be on your
best behavior he's coming in here he
catch you doing something bad to fire
you and I met he's a regular guy and
there's no reason for me to fear or you
know have this weird reverence or
respect for this guy it's mine but yeah
we kind of get put into this in fear
this you know this person like he's
everybody's like a man dot your i's and
cross your T's and things like that cuz
you put up with stuff from those people
that you wouldn't put up from not with
from normal people it's not to you know
and I've seen stuff that things that
that overlooked because these people had
positions of power in the structure the
food chain of winning organization I
tell you something almost like what do
having one see where people knew what
was going on but they turned a blind eye
why because hey I'm not gonna cross I
don't want that person I don't know if
it's discernment or what but I remember
in the 80s and 90s like there was a
overwhelming number of plots in movies
and daytime drama where the I mean that
was the plot that the model was trying
to break out into Hollywood trying to be
an actress and they sent her in a room
with the old man the old he's that you
know the whole the guy who was a CEO the
executive the writer you need to see him
and then she comes out she wipes her
mouth and I said you got the role you
got the part
there was so many movies that came out
and people like where the word that this
come from
this was nothing new this was something
everybody knew about the casting couch
you know which was wanted that part does
that come from right casting couch there
you go yeah that's that
but that's from the very origins of one
Hollywood even I think before the
talkies when you know there was silent
film that that's really where you became
famous because before then it was only
radio and then you know the silent films
yeah that was like it was part and
parcel of you are gonna be a actress out
there you were gonna have to go to the
casting how to mark the Caesars you know
and all these other nations and in the
Kings what was they do before before
they would allow the young girls to
marry a peasant or a warrior what did
they have to do you had to come sleep
with the King first you lost your
virginity to the king then you were sent
that out there into the world what you
this stuff is ancient man to stuff is
not new which is he was infused them
let's say if he was the Lord over that
you know anybody you said the PIAT
peasant speaks them depending on what
age and it was known that you were going
to marry he the field your wedding night
he would go to them and of course I
don't always put the doubt if she ever
became pregnant whose child it was
remember that movie Braveheart right
with Mel Gibson yep no big going they
marry in secret mm-hmm he he did it
because you know if he became know they
were gonna marry that guy was gonna be
man for her to go and spend you know
give her virginity up to the Lord and
then of course again if she got pregnant
you know there would always be that fear
well whose child is it really so yeah
that goes back hundreds of years
salt steel and there's nothing new Under
the Sun literally this stuff just
repeats itself and their signs and
symbols that are begging you to look a
little bit closer and a little bit
deeper but we think it's new we think
this is all brand new just for us you
know everything you know and I know like
my bad humanity is doing I personally
don't think that if you look back at
history I think the value of human life
has risen we make a lot of mistakes and
there's still a lot of things we have to
fix but overall I think we have become a
lot lot better than we used to be we've
made a roofless I think so too I think
the collective the consciousness of the
people is shifting and so that's why
it's that's why
polarizing the leaders that's why this
stuff isn't this stuff that uh is we're
not we we know we're not gonna let it
fly we're not gonna let the the facial
cream fly no more the boycott boycott
that facial cream you're saying but it's
just a symbol right because people are
people are a rising tide rises all the
ships right and so I think that enough
people are waking up and choosing light
to choosing love meditating you know
seeking out spiritual practice doing the
inner work finding healing and just us
as a people it's contagious other people
begin to do it and so yeah there's
definitely hope for Humanity and it's
hope for us as individuals as well you
know to be a light in the midst of this
darkness I truly believe spite sometimes
we're fed a lot of stuff the halter our
consciousness I and I know that
sometimes we become molded to do bad
things
overall I do believe in the goodness of
humans I do and I think that over all
that and that that's gonna with the
doesn't look like it yeah you know I
don't I don't really go this route a lot
and talk about the elites and the
conspiracies and stuff but I'm
definitely well studied on it and it
changes the atmosphere a little bit at
ending or so like this you know we're
gonna talk about all of this evil agenda
and these demons and and you know they
and our leaders are involved with
ancient spirits and uh you know Sally
how do you end it on a good note
obviously we're talking about how to end
it with like there's hope for Humanity
right there spiritual practice there's
just so much that uh that's happening
that's good but uh how do you end it on
a good note there's this there's been
some episodes that at the end they were
going good we got to the end I'm like oh
man I'm I had to apologize to the
audience because we got so you know I
think very powerful and I think at the
end of the day it's a choice you make
and sometimes people think well what do
i matter you know if I'm good if I'm a
good person or try to do the right thing
what does that matter just that one
person I love billions yeah and I beg to
differ
I think that if you make that individual
choice we are all very powerful
in even within visuals making the right
choice then like you said overall the
outcome will be positive it's just that
it's not gonna it's a it's a daily thing
you know sometimes we need time to pass
you look backwards and say if my by me
doing the right thing
whether it's on a physical level or on a
consciousness level people I think the
outcome will be positive
that's why don't you keep a lot of
animals around you oh yeah cuz their
benevolent because they love you
those are my ends that are wagging busy
they start going into egg-laying right
now and hens when they gonna start
laying eggs yeah they might make a lot
of weird sounds and pretty soon they'll
be looking at me too I would go like we
want more food they're always hungry
my little dog is so animated he does all
that crap like I put a I put a video of
him on Instagram the other day he makes
these little noises and kind of
communicate and talk and learning and
stuff and it's just so interesting how
we communicate with with them in they're
just you know part of the family you
know yeah I know I think about me being
the food source but I know my animals
they're like yeah they they they're in
sync with me you said food in the dog
he's waking up on the cows he's so cute
I'm working my last book I dedicated to
the ten of them because they're my
writing forgetting so they'll sleep
under my feet and then I'll be something
to them and they'll look at me like
that's great that's beautiful love you
guys yeah it's funny like my little dog
a lot of times he'll come lay under my
feet and um I have a grounding pad
grounding mat and he was laying on it
right up under my feet and it's like
hanging out and here when I'm doing it
but if the mail lady comes and he'll
just start barking it really makes for
who's just really loud in this sensitive
mic so but yeah our animals are awesome
but hey go ahead and plug your website
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stuff in in the episode that we did
should be available soon right yes yes
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as soon as it comes out good stuff well
thanks so much my friend I really
enjoyed it I'll have to do it again join
the conversation my friend Marlene Pardo
ladies and gentlemen yes
her and her animals we're here hanging
out with this really good man we talked
about a lot of stuff I know I tried to
end it wrap it up right over an hour I
tried to wrap it up about an hour and 15
minutes and then we win another hour and
15 minutes on top of that mentioned the
alien greys and going talking about the
time travelers in the government and the
conspiracies and Trump and all that
stuff so again you know we've been
talking about Trump a lot lately it's
election season and you know I don't
want people to think I'm anti Trump so
maybe you know next time we start
talking about in justices in the
government and in using some using these
people as frames of references maybe I
should use Biden you know maybe say his
name a couple times just so people don't
think that I'm that I'm a respecter of
persons you know like I have a dog in
the fight because I don't pray in for
Trump praying for bite and hope they
repent you know just joking
thanks for about hanging out in the chat
man we've kept a lot of people for a
long time here this is what we've been
here to over two and a half hours now
almost shoutout to everybody in the chat
hanging out I've seen your questions
I've seen your comments and I tried to
work some of them in there too and some
really good conversation shout out to
all you guys
shout out to the couple people who are
watching on D life to that's a platform
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couple people I think love who was it
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everybody watching listening no matter
what platform you listening on shout out
to all of you guys you're awesome you
know one of the I was a part of the
Hebrew Israelites for a particular time
several years and one of the what really
stuck me is that they talked about the
Illuminati like when I was studying the
Illuminati and New World Order and all
these secret societies like they openly
talked about this stuff on the street
corners like they would set up and kind
of have Church on the street and it
would talk about George Bush being in
secret societies and all of this stuff
and they'd have diagrams and pretty much
all the stuff you see on You Tube videos
now on the exposed videos they did it on
a street corner and they literally had
this huge professional-looking diagrams
and a twin in a plane flying into the
Twin Towers and George Bush and I mean
they just had scriptures that kind of
correlate it with that stuff and I
really liked the fact that they were
calling this wickedness out in the
streets they were crying out for the in
justices of the people and letting
people know what was going on and so
that really drew me into that movement
and what they were about at the time
this was like in 2008 or so and but I
remember one thing that one of the
leaders used to say because we it was
really big on in justices and calling
out stuff that the government was doing
calling out stuff that you know 9/11 and
all of this kind of stuff which was big
at the time but one thing that thing
that they said it's like it was like a
reward is like man when you get to
heaven you're gonna be known as someone
who stood up against Babylon the Great
that you stood up against in justices
and you prophesied against this wicked
nation that was doing wickedness and
stuff like that like all of this stuff
that's going on that we're gonna be
rewarded for calling it out but for me
you know the whole conspiracy thing gets
to where like it exists and it in and
there's no end to it you guys know I
just put out a snippet talking about how
his conspiracy theories can mess you up
and because there's no end to it like
what if there was an end to it and
you've reached the end of the conspiracy
there's gonna be more and then there's
gonna be more and then when you prove it
you know and what are we live in
everything is true for them that belief
all of its real right and and going out
of your way to to put you know you lose
sleep over this stuff man it's scary it
really is but once you learned that look
man these people there's some wicked
people out there
I know it's hard when you find out that
your leaders or wicked or your pastors
you know sleeping around people that
you've looked up to and you've put on
this this pedestal and when that thing
comes crashing down man it's very hard
but there's no end to the in Justices
that these people do again they lie to
each other they lie to God what makes
you think that they won't lie to you and
I don't believe anything that that I see
through the television right and I don't
think we should but just to know have a
frame of reference for evil man have a
frame of reference for darkness you dare
darkness yeah but your own darkness men
have a frame of reference to know that
it's real that it exists it's not all
loving like that's why we choose love
and light it's because darkness exists
it's because the day is wicked that's
why we make a conscious decision to try
to uplift to try to inspire to try to
breed creativity you know what I'm
saying - pull greatness out of people
and prophesy love and light to people
like that's why we do it because the day
is dark and we know that these things
exist so we have to counter counteract
that stuff we have to counterbalance and
a good thing I believe is that it is
catching on that people are waking up
that people are choosing love whether
you're in religion or you're in Islam or
a Hindu or lack of or a witch it doesn't
matter like people know that we need we
need a change in a change is it religion
most of you have been around to a lot of
different religion you tried Buddhism
you try this try Christianity and none
of it worked but love works at the end
of the day and love
knows all those modalities and it
doesn't matter love is not a respecter
of persons right again the homeless
person doesn't care you know if you're
filming them when you give them a $10 an
ayah you gave it to them right it helped
and just having that frame of reference
and not being overwhelmed in like that's
all you're you're into and that's all
you're looking for and it's all you talk
about
you know this stuff sells for sure I
could you know we could you know do all
kind of shows about this and I would
catch on a lot quicker might get pulled
from YouTube but it would definitely it
would definitely get a lot more eyes to
it and and some people are waking up and
everybody's at different levels again I
was 2008 when I was looking this stuff
up man and really big into it so you
know there were several years that were
really weird years of just research and
documentaries and videos and zooming in
on handshakes and all that knowing these
people are not who they say they are but
once you know that man this up to you to
to bring the light in to bring to be the
light of the world you know and do your
own inner healing and get that stuff
healed too you know that your mind and
how powerful the mind is and you start
believing in seeing things that you
create because it was sold to you and
you don't even know it psyche through
psychology through Freud through people
who were scripting this stuff and they
know what to say they know what to wear
and I think I'm reiterating just a
podcast that I did the other day while I
talked about conspiracy theories and I
actually made a snippet on YouTube if
you haven't heard that but go check it
out anyway it choose choose love choose
light man be the light you're the only
Bible that some people will read right
you're the only form of God that they
will only see so you just got to be that
to people and and good overcomes evil at
the end of the day and you choose what
side you're gonna be on so you know if
that's right if that's ramblin is my
truth so it's not like I'm scared to
talk about it I won't talk about it we
talk about this stuff there's some
interesting theories but to say that I
never said any of that stuff's fact I
don't know what isn't it
I think that's the biggest slap in the
face in with the conspiracy crew is to
call a conspiracy something that you're
claiming is true but it's not true
Alex Jones did it with Sandy Hook and
got in a lot of trouble I got pulled on
eggs got lawsuits out the wazoo he's
finished they got him and it really
muddied the waters on the conspiracies
that were true they were really going on
so they would find some of the far-out
stuff that got people in trouble and
some of the stuff that everything is in
a conspiracy choose you and even if it
was choose your battles wisely choose
your battles wisely be careful I
wouldn't say happy birthday to to people
in our community to friends I don't know
if it's today for both of them but shout
out to Amanda Faris extraterrestrial
happy birthday to you and happy birthday
to Adam starseed Bay love you guys you
guys are awesome and thank you guys for
showing up doing what you're doing and
trying to counteract the darkness with
your light as well because you guys are
the light of the world
you're awesome thank y'all yeah so
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