Brent Lee Regan | Why I’m Leaving Conspiracy Theories and You Should Too! | TruthSeekah Podcast

Brent Lee Regan "Why I'm Leaving Conspiracy Theories and You Should Too!"
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into today's discussion this is my
second podcast today the first one was
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but this is number two my friend today
brent
lee regan brent welcome to the true
secret podcast my friend how are you
my friend i'm i'm i'm the guy i'm doing
all right
all right that's good man um our
relationship
from from where i know you remember you
time
flies right it's been over the internet
when i got into
the conspiracy movement the truther
movement right
uh your name came up of uh looking up
music that talked about 911 that talked
about government
conspiracies and things that go bump in
the night right your music came
came up and i want to say 2010 or so
like it was
early on uh that i found your music and
um
added you on facebook earlier actually
earlier probably
time is weird for me man you know my
space
my space my space i knew it and that
album came out in 2008
and you have me on there then wow my
space
time is weird for me i can't lie it just
really is
2 000 a long time myspace right time
flies
found your music found your work and now
and things are jogging back i've
be probably even i'm sure that your
avatar was
9 11 truth or something like that at
some time right
and so we met uh through that that
stream and
i put out an album called the fall of
babylon that was
very similar the masons are coming for
you
they run everything be scared jesus will
destroy them one day you know all this
kind of stuff
and uh and there's a movement there's a
community uh
behind the truther community or the
conspiracy
community and you you were you know
drenched in that you had
t-shirts and merch and all that kind of
stuff and your music was in on it
and and i that's where we come from i've
always wanted to talk to you
i've always wanted to pick your brain
this is the first time we've really
talked we've kind of gone back and forth
on messenger but
um i wanted to have you on the show and
to pick your brain
and even so now because you're making a
lot of noise
in that community because you're
essentially
calling bs and saying listen i'm done
with the quote-unquote truther
movement and you're giving reasons why
you are debunking
conspiracy theories that you once
wholeheartedly believed
and we're going to talk about that why
you're doing this why do you think some
of these things are
fake uh which ones are real and just
where you're at
spiritually and as far as it comes in in
a truth or community man so
let's just go back before we get into
breaking down busting that stuff down
whatever
how did you fall in love with
conspiracies for me it was 911 that was
the first one what was it for you
yeah um yeah my exposure to all that
really it all begins basically
i used to have a have a program
basically and
we used to share each other's folders on
on the on computer you know
uh where we share like music producers
with chair
samples and things like that um and i
had
this one guy on there who interestingly
enough it ends up turning out to be um
henrik from red ice yes his brother
so i was that looking through his
folders
and there was a documentary folder and i
was like sweet i like documentaries
i like learning about stuff so i just i
just downloaded the lot
start watching it started clicking on
things the first thing i come across was
a jordan maxwell video
it's like called the new millennium or
something like that
and he was talking about the symbols on
the on the dollar bill
and i was like wow that looks that's
really interesting i was like
i used to see those symbols on the
dollar when i was a kid
i didn't know what they were and now
he's talking about masons oh that's
pretty interesting
my stepdad used to always talk about the
masons on base
because he was in the military um
so yeah i didn't really think that much
of it at first
clicking through saw a 911 video
911 in plain sight it was called
this is like back in 2003 maybe
uh so i just kind of start watching
stuff like that first of all i'm like
what's this because i've always been
into geopolitics i've always
been very interested in the way the
world works uh political structure
like i said my stepdad was in the
military so
you always had to be kind of aware of
geopolitics
because your stepdad could go to war you
know your base could get bombed
um so i was always interested into that
stuff so
it really came by accident
just me watching these videos
and eventually well i just was knee-deep
in everything
it took took a while but yeah
i'm here now yeah so what so you're
you're into all of this stuff now what
about the need to tell it what about
putting it in your music like where did
where does that tie in you getting into
to hip hop and music and
putting these themes within your music
uh
it's the same is because i've always
been interested in politics i always
liked
political uh political music really
that like you know music is an
expression of yourself
so if that's what i'm interested in
that's what i'm going to talk about
i used to talk about society and stuff
and i was in a metal band and we i used
to talk about that stuff all the time
that's just what i i was interested in
so
it was really it's just natural that was
the thing i was
i was interested in i'm going to go and
continue to put that in my music
and so that's what i talk about like
whatever you're learning whatever you're
studying that that comes in right
yeah yeah exactly it's an expression of
you isn't it
you know your your art is your
expression of you whatever you soak in
around the world you putting it out
in your art what what what part of the
world are you located in
i'm in bristol in the united kingdom
what were some of your um your
inspirations with hip-hop
like who like who were some of the
bigger names that that really lit a fire
within you two want to be doing it or to
listen to early on
oh man
i've been into hip-hop like pretty much
all my life i had this little
little red cassette when i was five
years old
that my stepdad gave to me and it was
like raps
top ten hits or something run dmc on
there
chantelle loads of amazing old school
stuff
you know and i just listened to hip-hop
my entire life and other all other types
of music
but in in that what what got me into
actually making hip-hop and rapping well
rapping first is biggie
biggie was was the big one
biggie smalls so you like you liked him
over tupac
oh yeah yeah i mean you know park's good
parkside i think that a problem but you
know people have their preferences
i just like the way that biggie builds
his structures
it like was a real slick and and wordy
and lots of big sentences you know
yeah and and park was very blunt and
right to
to the point i just liked that that's
true
that's true um did you ever get into
bone thugs
yeah yeah yeah yeah it was
when i was like 12 or 13 i think i heard
them first
was it uh
douglas rogers love of money
[Â __Â ] there's some old scary scary
scary songs
and i can't remember what it was yeah
that was the first time i heard him i
remember that
for sure all right so let's let's dive
in so you're a
um hip-hop artist conspiracy theorist
at the time um a lot of people don't
like that word
especially now there's documentaries
coming out now hey the government made
that word up to
debunk it and they call it a conspiracy
and and then they show it on television
they're putting it in the movies so that
you think that it's normal they want to
put it in front of you
and saw it yeah and it's really weird
when we talk about conspiracies because
there's there's so much of like
what are you talking about are you
talking about aliens are you talking
about the new world order
are you talking about like your your
phone spying on you
um oh it's so wide so many and so
we're going to get specific on on some
of them
that you believed but let's
instead of getting specific on some of
them you watch all these documentaries
which we all have
right and it kind of wow you start
looking in i remember letting a buddy
come over and i'm telling him about this
stuff
he's drinking beer in front of my
computer by himself
for like five hours just
after that he's die hard he's die hard
you know what i'm saying and he watched
those same documentaries there's music
playing
there's a voiceover there's convincing
jordan maxwell is wearing a suit and
he's speaking from a place of authority
young man you do not know you know and
it's convincing
it's convincing and uh and it can tell
you anything they want
they can make it up which a lot of
conspiracy theories are are made up i
think we can make up our own
and uh and they will start to catch fire
you know what i'm saying so
um we're gonna get into
what what did it for you to say hey man
this is
this is i'm i need to get out of this
um it wasn't just something that you
believed you're like
working to further these agendas
whatever they they were even if they
were created or 9 11.
what was it that that you know made you
have a change of heart i'll say that
well like i've always had certain issues
you know they're like you said because
the conspiracy or
conspiracy culture or the truth moving
whichever one
whichever term you want to use i kind of
use them interchangeably
they've got a lot of genres and there's
a lot of genres that i felt was on the
fringe
so we didn't have to worry about them
specifically like
uh shape-shifting reptilians
um it's the
the jewish people or any of that kind of
stuff i
rejected that outright and always
thought that was just ridiculous
but i always thought that was just a
fringe thing
you know so besides
the fringe stuff that i didn't agree
with and the things that started coming
out sorry
just like a little bit after 9 11 with
like holographic
planes and energy weapons and things
like that
i started kind of thinking i i don't
know about that
but i'll just push it to the side
because that's just
the very few people on the fringe saying
that kind of stuff
what really started to change for me was
sandy hook
when sandy hook happened
within like we we used to watch these
things happen you you and me both
we used to see an event and we'd be
online
and we'll talk about what we're seeing
and the whole community is picking apart
every single piece of news that's coming
out
every statement that's being made by the
police everything
and you know all the information starts
getting
formed there and what did it for me with
sandy hook was
there was this idea that everyone kept
going to that
it was a hoax and that it was crisis
actors
yeah and same people and they they're
they've got pictures of like this
one woman screaming at 17 different
uh disasters catastrophe yeah yeah
and and i come from an era where it's
like we had false flags
people died that was the point they'd
kill they you know
what we thought of what i used to
believe is they pulled off 911
and they murdered 3 000 people nearly
on that day to invoke this fear
out of us they didn't need to fake it
they actually did it
you know and so it was a false flag they
pretended it was someone else doing it
and then around sandy hook i mean some
shooters
some like other shooters like i guess
james holmes was a little bit like that
yeah
you know people were kind of acting like
he didn't do it but i wasn't really
questioning it that much but it was
sandy hook where they were
kept acting like it's not him um
and here's all the crisis actors and
then
boston marathon happened and that
they did exactly the same thing
and all these same pictures and look oh
it's people from sandy hook and this
isn't that and i just
started thinking why why does it need to
be a hoax
why aren't they just doing it normal
like actually killing people
why would they oh you're showing people
with fake
blowing off legs and yeah yeah like that
wouldn't just do it like like like
supposedly showing like people with
amputee
anything you can think of really it's
out there that's the weird thing
but showing people with like it looks
like they have a blown off leg but their
leg is really folded back
and they're sitting on their leg but it
looks like it's dismembered
and people are taking pictures and kind
of stuff like that
yeah that era like that's where the
memes started
that's where like towards you
with your community who are like wanting
like yeah give us
more fake stuff we got we got you kind
of thing
they really thought that they they
caught something i did and it just
wasn't
that stuff just wasn't adding up and now
then i was just thinking oh maybe it
must just be a false flag and these
people just got it wrong
and then now i look back at it and i see
i was making excuses for myself
i was trying to still make stuff fit for
me even if it blatantly doesn't look
right on the screen
i'm actually thinking oh well it must be
a false flag
because i've already thought this i've
already
i'm stuck in my ways i've watched
documentaries you haven't watched
yeah and um
so
what i mean what what
what was it so you're seeing all of this
stuff and people who are wanting it and
i'm in the same boat with you
right yeah my my conspiracy stuff i
think conspiracy because
some people again i mentioned aliens you
if those people say oh that's conspiracy
too like
you know so we mentioned conspiracy and
a lot of people gonna throw everything
into okay you guys believe in
religion religion's a conspiracy you
know whatever um
but we're talking about these false flag
attacks on the government or from the
government
um and you're seeing it you're into some
of them some of them there's
holes in it and then we see what
happened with alex jones
oh yeah right and uh and i'm not talking
about him being the platform but him
like
people are like looking to like
i said this on an episode and i try to
watch my language on here most of the
time
but with with the conspiracy thing like
if you are correct
and you found out that this was a hoax
and this never happened and nobody died
and you stood up for justice truth and
equality which most people think they're
doing
you guys are lying nobody died in sandy
hook
so much so to where they're saying um
someone's daughter who really died your
daughter didn't die
stop lying to people your daughter's not
dead
and like your daughter really died and
you've got mobs of people
and they're doing articles they're doing
interviews about your daughter who's
hiding
and you're in on it and you're a
grieving father
and there's this weird mob of the
internet who claims your kid is still
alive
um if you're if you're true now because
you're rolling the dice
if you're if it's true and your daughter
you know and these people
found a hole in the system they're a
hero
you're a hero hey man our government is
lying to us which trust
they're not telling us the truth some of
this
if you're not if you're wrong
you're one of the biggest scumbags
on the face of the planet uh when it
comes for for something that really
happening
and you're denying it and you're
accusing people i'll say this
i got a friend of mine he's probably
watching he was watching a while ago
they begged me they begged me to get
into stuff they begged me to talk about
transgenders they begged me to give like
these polarizing issues there's one
conspiracy theory right now
that i'm not into this stuff anymore but
they begged me to get into it what's
your take you need to talk about it it's
the government agenda
they and they got all these reasons why
one of the big ones is that
all of the women actresses
in hollywood are really men
yeah michelle obama is a man
sandra bullock is a man angelina jolie
uh taylor swift they're all men
transgenders you can see they're adam's
apple
you can see their bulge in their bikinis
and in their
and they believe it wholeheartedly and
in their mind
it is to that how the demonic hollywood
elite
wants to uh de-gender
men because men are created in the image
of god
so they want to de-gender them and take
their listen we got a lot of weird stuff
going on right now
but that one and them wanting me to talk
about it
and again i gotta watch what i say like
uh
the only way you can know that for sure
is if you've kind of like been in bed
with them like if you've
if you've they have to disclose it they
show you witness it
those are the two things aren't they
yeah because but they said well they
have disclosure because you can see that
adam's apple you can see the bulge you
can see
uh obama called michelle michael well
then this would probably make him very
angry as well
if if michelle obama was trans
then she's not used to be a man she is a
woman trans women
are women and i'm sure that will annoy
you not not you trust
truthfully but that might annoy some of
the people who seem to have a problem
with it
this is one of the things that i
actually used to reject way back when
because that trans agenda has been going
on for a long time
like it did start like you said with
lots of bad michelle obama pictures
like it's just it's just
you know i don't want
if i say something you know to anybody
please don't take it offensive
because i'm talking about myself i'm you
i was you i was all in
like i believed so much of this so
i just wanted you know i'm sorry but
that
thought is ridiculous and i'm not trying
to say you're ridiculous my friend
whoever
else is watching this it's just that
idea
is ridiculous you don't need to cross a
line
you know and that that that whole thing
really crosses the line
a lot of this abusive stuff that started
happening
i think it's okay i think it's okay to
question that stuff i think it's okay to
be like hey
absolutely weird pictures man hey uh
what's her name the lady who got killed
after she
said oh what's up joan rivers is on
camera
calling michelle obama a [Â __Â ]
and she she was on her last leg anyway
and she died right after she said that
she died after after santa so like
you've got all this evidence and i think
it's okay to be like
that's strange those pictures are
strange but once you start
verbally telling people the bible
speaks very very clearly about
bearing false witness against the
neighbor if you're true
you are a hero you are a worry a warrior
or
virtue and you are most honored among
the brethren
but if you're not you're in trouble
for bearing false witness and starting
conspiracy theories
and pushing rumors that scare people
that are fear porn
hysteria if you're not right
you got to be a thousand percent you
can't even be 100
like you have to know before you to come
on the internet
create blogs and podcasts and videos and
and all of this reaction stuff that gets
clicks
it gets clicks bro it gets clicks we
clicked on it
we clicked it we shared it yeah we
shared it
so why not what like like what's the
harm in it
it's fun like what it used to be
it used to be mate it used to be used to
be
fine let me just let's clarify one thing
as well
like you you brought it up a minute ago
about like the the wide
conspiracy theory community or whatever
and like
bring aliens into it or a bigfoot or any
of that type of stuff but
i don't bring any of that into it if
it's supernatural
if it's paranormal you know any of that
type of stuff
that's this is not what i'm talking
about when i'm talking
that's fun enjoy yourself that's what i
do
yeah i i love watching bigfoot videos
they're fun
all right this is all good that i don't
think
i don't call that the conspiracy theory
stuff because
you know big the bigfoot issue isn't
part of the truther movement
i you know i think the truth through
movements about politics
generally i and when i'm trying to say
come away from this i'm talking about
illuminati new world order global cabal
that is secretly controlling every
single aspect of our life
and then they also want global
domination but they already control
everything so what do you mean do you
want global that that thing
that's all i'm kind of talking about
so now i clarified that sorry what was
the question again
um nothing really i'm trying to um
oh you asked what was the harm yeah the
harm
the harm right back then
it wasn't harmful i don't i didn't i
didn't think that it was very harmful
but over the past few years things that
since pizzagate
things have gotten very harmful
some very dangerous they were seeing
people out
dangerous people got hold of these
theories
and they ran wild with it because some
of them were
that some of that them theories the
the letter group you know they
they their stuff is wild
and it it's caused a lot of harm people
are dying over this stuff people are
getting shot people getting murdered
people killing themselves because they
can't take the fact
that a new world order is coming yeah
like
we gotta worry about some people's
mental health i'm not saying everybody
just some people right but
i mean this is this is crazy and it's
not just like our
like you and me you know you know i
i believe you're a decent person you
know you've always been a very spiritual
person you're very
you follow jesus you like like me
um the stuff that i find
really dangerous right now is this far
right lean
to a lot of these conspiracy theories
things like white genocide
and stuff like that like some invaders
are coming
all of a sudden it's turned on the
people not actually the elite
that's very dangerous to me anders
brevik
you know the guy who blew up a building
in
sweden and then shot a bunch of children
at a summer camp believed in this stuff
he believed
that there was a white genocide and that
he was
killing all these children
because they would be the next
generation of socialists
and he was scared of cultural marxism
now these
that stuff's it's just dangerous man
it used to be fun bigfoot all that kind
of stuff but
the insurrection so many things recently
proves this stuff is dangerous
yeah it's when people saw acting on it
um again again
for me you know i'm saying and this is
about this the beginning is just the
slander
it's the name calling it's calling
people out of their name it's
it's uh you know saying you you're
bearing
false witness against your neighbor like
that's totally unethical and it's
it's really serious in in god's
god's eyes i believe so i i try not to
do it
even giving social commentary and
um making fun publicly which is huge
on youtube reaction videos
uh you're giving your thoughts you know
what i'm saying it's like
and then you start making up stuff so
there's a lot of that that stuff that
happens
um but i think it's serious but then
the next step is not just gossiping or
saying stuff it's when like
you're saying stuff enough and loud and
you're convincing enough and you're loud
enough
like alex jones to people start like
looking
for for these people who um
weren't killed and i think vice did a
really good piece on this
and it there's a vice documentary and at
the very beginning it follows a guy
who is harassing a a
a morning father who's one of their kids
died in
in one of these shootings and and the
person is harassing
you're lying your daughter's alive he's
like at his
house god is addressed because because
alex jones gave a lot of these people's
addresses
in the end so the truthers want to get
to the bottom of it and they go and they
harass
and they gang stalk and they hey you're
not really
your daughter's in there somewhere
hiding and your daughter's dead
yeah like what is the retribution for
that like in the spirit realm
it's not good no
that's that's that's the thing man like
look at the fruit that this a lot bears
from when we started like that was like
you know the seeds were planted over 100
years ago yeah
and we were kind of like you know the
tree kind of coming up but now this is
the
the leaves and the fruits coming out of
it and look at the fruit of it man the
fruit is
so no it is crazy it is another leg
it's bad fruits um everyone's a
conspiracy theorist right now
but the weather's right i mean look
what's going on
in in our world not our country not our
society but our world
like look what's going on and so like i
always joke it's like
grandmothers your grandmother is like an
expert conspiracy theorist now
a right-wing q anon supporter conspiracy
we're going to have three days of of
blackness they're turning the internet
off for three days they said this
two years ago a year ago everybody get
ready q anon just released it
all of these even the conservative
christians
with the jumped into trump train trump
became
like the biggest conspiracy polarizing
person
i i think some of it could have been
said i think they knew what they were
doing
i just watched the documentary i watched
the document on
on netflix and it was about this um
the senator somewhere where you are i
trust when i get the name
but he he went and he started polarizing
uh nazi punt rockers and stuff like that
and it was like this white pop white
empowerment thing kind of
everything that this dude was doing he
did
trump like did everything that this guy
was doing i wish i could find his name
it was a documentary that i started
watching on netflix
if you want if you really want to inbox
me i'll find it but
it was weird to watch it and be like oh
this is trump
like this is everything that this guy's
saying is he's got the people
rallying in the streets all the
skinheads paul
you know young angst white power which
is what we call the far right here in
america
like trump got all these people it's
like this isn't new
like there's some stuff like you can
rally people
people can be rallying but but but with
different causes
yeah it's it's a it's a popular talk was
a pop
a tool for politics you know it's
populism
that's really what it is like the
definition here of of populism a
political approach that strives to
appeal
to ordinary people who feel that their
concerns are disregarded by established
elite groups that's conspiracism to me
and and if you just use that whole you
get that crowd in with it
and just you know point the finger at
the elites trump had it
trump had a brilliant idea he is he's
not a politician
he's not like the rest of them
i i'm a great businessman and i can come
in and fix all the politics because all
of them are the same
vote for me because i'm completely
different and people did
on that message you know i don't think
people
i don't think like was it 70 something
million
about the first time for him like that
they're not
like all white supremacists or anything
they just they they feel like
yeah there's these people are elites
they don't speak for us
let's put someone else in and shake up
yeah yeah but it's always been done
though
you know even even the guy that i that i
watched he was a uh he was an actor
i mean with an actor like you got
somebody who's really good at playing a
character
even to make up a character i need you
to study this play this role this
this guy does it trump does it trump's
an actor he's got
he's in show business as well that's
where his heart is
um and then you have reagan who is an
actor you get these actors the people
somebody that the people will rally
behind
and vote for uh because they're
charismatic they can tell you what you
want to hear
and stuff like that you know oh you got
to be as a public speaker
be comfortable speaking in front of the
public and you're there
yeah um
now let's just let let's go into cause
um there's some stuff that i believe
and i've been a lot of the i still
believe 911 was an inside job
like i believe i i do believe in a
a global um government that that's
running things that's calling shots and
stuff like that
why why don't you and and uh
you know i have reasons i watch those
documentaries i've read the books you
know
it's you look at things and and it
shapes the way you think it shapes the
way you
you view what's happening right now with
the jab and
you know all of this stuff rightfully so
we're in weird times man
for sure definitely why why don't you
believe um
we'll talk about 9 11 but what um so you
just reneged everything like all you
don't believe in any of it some of you
still
believe in okay so what about it uh what
about like
what about a one world government a new
world order of like
there's a standard there's a vision that
we want to get
that we want to happen whether it's
technological whether it's with machines
whether it's
marking people with chips a shadow
government that are having meetings
and talking about plans to roll out
the vid you know what i'm saying plans
to roll out this the plans
i still i believe in that um what what
do you not you don't believe in in like
a global
conspiracy anymore what what what what
did it
for you hey look
once and i'm not here to debate i'm like
i think that whatever reality we choose
becomes real to us anyway you know what
i'm saying i i'm not here to debunk
anything today i'm not here to make
anyone
yeah i'm just looking for talking points
with you yeah i just yeah exactly i just
wanted
you know that's why i want to have this
conversation with you because it's a
conversation
you know like you'll ask me a question
and i'll answer it
but nah man i i feel like
like yeah i'm not debunking anything i'm
not bringing any facts all right i'm
just
just talking today but i will
i will be making some videos about this
stuff and i will be
i will be online soon all right promise
you that
but
this this conspiracy is far too grand
i kept trying to make things fit when it
just wasn't fitting anymore and if i
couldn't make
one piece of it i'd have to have an
extra person in and what's going on
today
is even bigger proof to me
that it'd be pretty damn hard to run the
world
to try and to try and do this world
government thing
like none of these people most of these
countries can't do
to do a thing correctly
everyone is messing with the imbeciles
and monkeys yes
and that this is the point this is like
part of the thing like i i do honestly
think a lot of the stuff that we
uncover as nefarious is incompetence
it's actually incompetence and
you know there's corruption on other
sides
like to to me if we can we could can we
just
i'll just quickly say about 911
for for instance like the question of
why couldn't the government stop it
i think that honestly is because of they
were incompetent at the time
those none of the agencies could speak
together i
completely agree with that
idea but i
you know i can't completely disprove
that it wasn't an inside job but i can i
can see
the incompetence but can but and
obviously because you came from that you
know why
people um believe it right i mean you
know
you know the reason multiple multiple
points i believe
you know i'm sure you know i could tell
you any reason i believe in you
and you know it and you and you believed
it at one point right
yeah for me the biggest thing about that
i think it's repeated stuff building
seven
is huge for me most people don't even
know about that it wasn't on the news
like you know they didn't they but they
know about it now
because we've all just we've all been
yapping about it for nearly 20 years
you know
back back in the day like yeah everyone
was like what's warsaw building seven
yeah so what so so let me just get your
opinion on
on most people think it caught on fire
and fell
yeah is that what happened
i can't prove otherwise but i do believe
that story that it came down from from
fire
do you but and you also like
it does look like a control demolition
you know that
all those buildings completely agree
because why else would i have believed
it in the first place exactly
i can't answer it i can't answer it but
i can't
none of us can and maybe it's the same
control demolition maybe the same this
the judgment's the same for me to say
that
you know that this happened you know a
hundred percent
and it didn't okay you know what i'm
saying
okay but one of the points that i'd like
to start making
in my in my videos coming forward is
if it is an inside job
you still can't prove intent you still
can't prove that it was
because they want to install a new world
order or because they want to do this
those sorts of things we can't actually
prove we have to let history prove that
this is where i just want people to come
away from theorizing too much
you know way up options cool no problem
but
let's not go too far into theory
because like
how we're going to get p how are we
going to make change if it's like
chasing shadows
could be completely wrong and a lot of
times
we have ended up being wrong
yeah and i think one of my biggest
reasons of not to even push
or promote or talk about much even
though i believe it like i really do
hold
a lot of conspiracy theory i do think
they're real but i won't speak on them
like
for many different reasons um the
biggest one
is that and people say oh you gave up
your power
there's nothing you can do about it what
are you going to do we're going to
overthrow brother
we're all going to come together we're
going to stop this like
no you're not you're not
so i was like if so whatever conspiracy
theories i believe
i try not to even speak on them
yeah because i can't change them and
they say well you give up
yes you can brother get back with the
truth of movement there's
we're you know we're building in numbers
now
we can overthrow the government
literally they tried to do it bro
and in america they tried to rush the
capitol dude
you know i was watching it live man and
i was in shock
i couldn't believe those were truthers
right i mean you would call those
truthers q anons like conspiracy
theories to the t
yeah yeah the cuban different look they
were just a different genre
of that truth movement yeah they were
like a little bit you know like if you
like uh
you're like soulful rap they were like
gangster rap you know it's like two
different they're just two different
two types of genre but there's still a
similar message
still a similar mindset is still about
new word order illuminati deep state
whatever you want to call it
the terms seem to change throughout the
years
in it but it's always the same sort of
thing
yeah i mean one of the reasons that i
did give up on this as well
was um uh the rfid chip and obviously if
me and you being in it as long as we
were like we had times and dates
and uh and yeah writing in government
writings of when this was going to be
implemented
i think it was like march 8th 2008 or
something
and everyone would build up to it it's
coming we had documents we had papers we
had
diagrams on how they would give it to
you and this was in 2008
mind you it was probably a little bit
earlier because it was a build up to
this date
that date comes and goes nothing happens
here we are now the same conspiracy
stuff that we were into
15 years ago they're coming back around
rightfully so like same new people are
finding those same documents and the
same things and they're
and it's brand new to them and for us
it's like come and gone yeah that didn't
pan out
yeah you know yeah and
this happened all the time like every
god i don't know how many times i heard
like that the
markets were going to crash in next
month or
there was going to be a nuclear war with
north korea
it's coming and all these different
things that it's gonna
it's gonna kick start world war three
and then that's when they'll take
complete domination and i i kept waiting
for it
but it's just not it's not happening
i just real yeah on
and like i said like you believe in it
that's i ain't got i don't think
any less of you uh you know you you like
you like me as a christian you know we
we don't believe in superiority over
other people
you know there's no sin greater there's
no no
person better than each other everyone
is
just a human you know so i don't really
think less or more of someone whether in
what they believe in that type of stuff
i just want
to put across that this stuff is
dangerous
and a friend of mine he's a good friend
he's commenting right now
yeah he says q anon is the only
organization that can take out the
actual
international deep state q anon has the
power
and q and i guess and his followers can
take out the deep state
what do you think about that i don't
think that they can
first of all human on isn't actually an
organization
you know it's like like saying the truth
movement is an organization
we're not it is it's like
christianity organization it's not an
organization
it's like just a loose-knit group of
people yeah
you're a cult
you're a self-imposed cult and i i truly
believe this
i was part of this
you know i i know this might be a bit
hyperbolic but it is actually what i
think
it's we we exhibit cultish behavior but
to your friend like i'm not sorry i'm
not trying to insult you
at all because someone else doesn't
think
because there's someone else here who
just posted a comment that says
and this is even conspiracy as well q
anon
is controlled opposition so it's a
counter
opposite of what my friend said that q
anon is real
but q and on was created by the
government
to throw you off to see who the
extremists may be
yeah you know i've heard i've i get that
i've had these comments as well
um
so the vid
do you think that's real yeah you think
it's a real real disease that
has taken over the entire planet it's a
real
you know it's a a real life form
actually going through and um
evolving adapting
and you know it's a it's a it's a
it's a deadlier flu it gives you a
pneumonia
no i i i believe in science you know
i don't i'm not someone that rejects
science
or what about fauci you know lying and
giving us half truths and trying to make
the
the people docile or give us a false
sense of hope or a false sense of fear
because i tell you like
at the very beginning i was scared yeah
i was scared to death dude i don't wear
a mask
like i only wear them when i have to um
and uh i haven't got it
praise god whatever that is um
but at the beginning i thought
i thought i was gonna die i thought
everyone was gonna die i thought that
masked mass um um
you know segments of the population were
the majority of us was going to die the
way that they were saying it in the news
yeah every day fear there's trucks
lining up
we can't there's no way we can bury
enough all the bodies that are going to
die from this
you can't go i was scared dude like and
i had i had to really hang on to my face
i had to really not listen to it i had
to really
pray and really get in close um
but that's not the case not the way and
people say well they're learning
they thought it was that way now it's a
little bit more hand it's manageable
they thought you we were you know and
for me it's like hold on that's
you know but we're like the question i'd
like to ask you is
are you was you scared because
of what the media was saying or was you
scared because of all the media that
you've consumed over the years
like have you watched like contagion and
all the zombie movies
and all different things like that that
you you know you're scared of it
no no because you're actually coming in
yeah because it it made it
it made it seem real yeah you know what
i'm saying it made
it made uh whatever the and i don't
think those movies really came into play
they could have somewhere in the back in
the background of your
you know psyche but the fact that
they're you know we we interrupt this
alert to tell you
do not hug your grandmother stay away
from your grandmother 14 days of
isolation
listen they shut down the world bro they
shut down the world
business we've lost businesses we i have
friends who died in the
in the hospitals by themselves
not friends family members that nobody
can go see them they
died alone um because of this
and uh like this it's terrible man it's
terrible
yeah but i don't think it i i don't
think it's what they said it was
you know as far it's at least at least
as
is definitely death a thousand percent
not as
deadly as they what i don't know what it
is
uh but it's not what they said it was
everyone knows that
go to any local bar room right now go to
any go to the beach do people are
i just got off i just got on five planes
you know like
um you know what i'm saying like
somebody oh it's because it's because
people are starting to get
vaccinated you know it's because of it
and i don't even want to talk about i
told you before we went
like i don't even want to talk about it
but it's just i guess we did but
you know it goes there because
conspiracy theories man we've got gotta
talk about the conspiracy
theories you know and and like
when it comes to this what's happening
right now
i don't care if you believe in it or not
it's that's that's
up to you but keep it to yourself and
let other people make up their minds
about it really because
this i do think i think is real
and i think vulnerable people
need to get vaccinated i'm not like
you know i'm not scared of the vaccine
i've had one shot
i'm ready for the next i should be
getting in the next couple of
weeks but something i also want to point
out is
i'm from england i don't have to deal
with
the terrible american media
like i know how how crazy and hyperbolic
and
sensational your your media can be
like ours isn't quite like that and
i get to see a lot of what goes on in
europe and what
goes on a lot in the rest of the world
you know so
like when it comes to like you you're
asking me about fauci i don't know what
fauci said day to day
i i didn't have to listen to him i had i
got to listen to chris whitty and
patrick valance in in england
and both of those guys seemed absolutely
cool
i tried i trust chris we totally 100
trust that man you know
and you guys probably don't even know
who he is but he
he i would assume he's our fouchy my
mind
with the conspiracy of uh a global elite
is that
they're they're replicas you ever watch
the simpsons and
because the simpsons got a lot of
conspiracy in it right but if you get
in the simpsons like when they go to the
next city over called
shelbyville there's like
someone who looks just like bart simpson
his name may be
art crimson right there's somebody who
looks just like homer
he works at a very similar job there's
like a doppelganger of these people
in my mind in in our are different
countries
like you have someone who is like
this person you have someone like that
so in my mind that there was somebody
who was like fouchy
if you guys weren't consuming faucets
are you listening to someone like him
yeah chris maybe that's wrong i don't
know maybe that's something that is 100
right
like like you know you had you had trump
and we've got boris
that that is basically the same person
with the worst haircut
boris so is that the guy who's in the
documentary
that i'm thinking of probably yeah who
this sounds like prime minister
boris johnson yeah
oh yeah they both both trump and uh
boris had the same companies working for
them like cambridge analytica and
people like that what's that on netflix
is it called hacked
trying to see it was really interesting
um
but i feel like it was it was something
that happened they were trying to find
out
someone who uh
was making bombs or whatever somebody
who did a bunch of
bombs and stuff um
but it was i thought it was the the nail
bomber
the nail block that you were talking
about yeah yeah
yeah yeah like far right into far-right
conspiracy theories about like
the trans agenda and all that type of
stuff as well way way way way back and
that was like in the 90s
that guy's from or late late 90s yeah
yeah and it was the uh like i said trump
for me watching it it was like a
spitting image of of trump the things
that they were saying
but everything is though you know it's
one thing that like i
um it's not a conspiracy theory i don't
think it's it's observation i've been in
cults right you've been in a cult
essentially
um i was in the hebrew israelites for
some time
maybe you got into some some of that i
know you knew me when i was into a lot
of that
but um black hebrew israelites
and they had a way to move a crowd they
knew things to scare you
and it was kind of like um order apk
it's chaos listen they're coming for you
but follow us because we have read the
scriptures and we know the way out and
that was literally their stuff
and their tactics things they said what
they look like
and then i left that for different
reasons and i started researching other
cults
like even like jim jones and like these
leaders were
saying the same things that these other
cult leaders
would say in mannerisms to win
people over to scare you but then to
offer you hope
in the same breath i mean i mean that's
what's in that's what the government's
doing that too
i'm gonna scare you but listen we gotta
hope there is a hope if you listen and
follow us
like you know you start recognizing
patterns
yeah these these cults i wouldn't even
say that they give you hope they they
literally scare you
and then empower you yeah at the same
time or
or save you and that's that's that's
exactly
you can't tell me that wasn't like alex
jones
and david ike and jordan maxwell and
william cooper
and fritz springmeier and all these
other people were basically the same
don't trust don't trust the mainstream
media they have an agenda
i'm going to tell you the truth it's
just
they are cult leaders and we just like
kind of
we jumped into it
and now there's this this cue guys like
a literally
an anonymous cult leader no one even
knows what he really who he really is
yeah or if it's a she or anything yeah
it is so strange dude it is so strange
um if anybody wants to to challenge or
ask a question because people are like
what about this what about that what
about the illuminati card game
what about this what about that if
anybody wants to ask a question i'm
posting the the zoom link in in the in
the comments and we're not debating
but if anybody has a a a question or
a comment that uh that myself or brent
should should look into
as proof or why we should follow q anon
or
while we should you know blatantly call
out
the transgender uh
people in society a movement i believe a
lot of stuff
you know what i'm saying i really do um
do i talk about it no
and that's that's the reason why because
i know the crazies
i know believe me i even right man i
even look at it like even like the
secret society secret societies are real
right masons are real like mystery
schools are real
there's there's rights and levels of
initiation because they
guard they guard information sacred
information
and i feel like even not that that stuff
is sacred because it's so
out there in a blatant but people take
it and run with it and they use it to
their own detriment
like i feel like what i felt like over
the years
like like almost like a graduation that
i i believe in
a devil i believe in evil that evil
exists
out there somewhere even if it's in uh
the lower realms of the consciousness of
the people
personified as this ugly thing i don't
know what it is but i know evil exists
and once you know that i quit i quit at
first i was like wow they did what
they they did what they blew up a
building they did
uh they hired a guy in las vegas to
shoot a bunch of people and it was
really
a cia operative shooting people like
like for me not that any of that's valid
but it's the idea of that listen evil
exists
and you can't you can't like
shock me anymore because i know that
there's a lot of evil stuff happening
even stuff that we haven't even
uncovered yet we get into the baby stuff
i'm reading comments people are talking
about the baby save the babies
the babies they're they're and it gets
crazy they're they're putting babies in
if you buy a um furniture from from
wayfair
wayfarer there's a baby in it i'm very
familiar and i'm like
and i told people i was like listen if
you believe this
let's pull our money let's let's
save these babies let's buy one
they're too much they kept coming up
with excuses it's they're too much money
no no let's listen if you think you if
you can save the life of a child
max your [Â __Â ] credit card out crowd
actually
is how much is a life worth to you not
13 000.
it's not listen how much is a life let's
all pull our money
let's buy this these welfare furnitures
that have babies hidden in them
and let's set them free and then we'll
know and then they they said well we
don't have enough money then then
someone said
well if we did buy it they'll get us for
trafficking because we bought one
we didn't know we just bought them we
just bought
is a constant move in the goal post
constant like
changing you're right uh these things to
make it right make your whole thing
fit and okay like just
you know for for example um
did you did you see about the recent uh
let me
say an american soccer player that
that collapsed at the euro cups and
within within minutes
the conspiracy theories are going around
about that he had and that he had
had the
the thing we'll call it we'll call it
jeff yeah yeah we'll call it jeff shall
we
uh he had that and that he had his jab
like uh three weeks ago or something
like that
and it went round and went round and
went around and basically that they were
everyone's acting like he's had a heart
attack because of this because of that
because
because of what's going on right now
it's the jab
at that they're not safe
a few hours later the inter milan
director
the the football sorry soccer club that
he plays for
released a statement saying from their
medical person
he's never had coveted and he's never
had
the jab he's like in europe
all of europe were waiting by age
to take it you know i'm sure in america
you you've got different
uh different procedures in different
states haven't you like different people
can get at different times but
in all of europe pretty much we're all
doing it in in age stages
and right now we're at the point where
it's like i think 30 year olds are
getting it
getting there first so anyway they came
out
said that he never had it i was arguing
or not arguing
talking with somebody on facebook the
other day about this
and i said look they were posting a meme
about it and i said look
this meme is incorrect oh yeah
she said yeah and she said how is it
incorrect
i gave her the information and she
basically just
acted like well
the football manager is in on it yeah
so now we got the inter milan football
manager
as part of the global grants conspiracy
just because it because i told her the
truth she didn't like the truth
she had to make something else fit move
the goal posts again
let's have someone else involved and it
just gets bigger and bigger and bigger
and bigger
and this is where to me it all fell
apart
um we live in a weird world man
i will say that we're rare people man
humans are strange so there's people uh
wanting to come in for the chat and
we're going to bring you guys here
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different places that you're
reading so uh for against
what if let's let's talk about it today
um again with the guy who who fell out
who got hurt like
um they tried to say the same same thing
with dmx
dmx a bludrant
drug abuser a hero to us all
but very much struggled an addict
very much struggled with uh with many
addictions
and uh and so he passes has a heart
attack essentially
od and um
and the conspiracy guys jumped on it
real quick
saying that henry just had his covert
shot
yeah everything and that's and that's to
do with the conspiracy it's all over the
place
nobody can die anymore that's one that's
one thing i that that got me too
like the same thing happened with pimp c
uh that from
the group ugk underground kings out of
texas sipping syrup and all that they're
known for sipping syrup they're known
for taking uppers and downers and mixing
them
guess how you have a heart attack take
an upper and
drank lean and snort coke see what
happens
yeah you're gonna have a heart attack so
pimp c dies
and immediately the government took him
out man
the government took him out because he
was trying to take the money out
and they find something noble that they
were doing i i'm sure
nipsy hustle started
you know i'm saying an entrepreneur
within his own community trying to bring
money to his hood trying to empower
people and i'm
sure they say that this guy who killed
him is everything
michael jackson i was watching i watched
it when
nipsy hustle was murdered i i got the
the notification about when it happened
and i'm watching all the live stuff and
it's just going
around straight away oh it's cause he
was talking out against the government
because he was trying to empower black
people
because he was trying to do this they'll
find like one lyric in his song where he
was like
stand up for the people and rise against
the government he might have said it one
time
and they're like see you said it he was
he was gonna have a meeting the week
after with the sheriff of
l.a yeah and they were gonna talk about
gang culture yeah yeah that was that's
what he was trying to do he's trying to
make like
life better for people in l.a like
that's what he was doing
it's not like everything's a conspiracy
but with with the
movement everything's a conspiracy
everything's connected and i
after like i'm 18 years after now
like after 15 years or so it just
it all started falling apart man i
couldn't keep any of it together
at least the connections i still believe
in corruption i still believe that
any kind of conspiracy that's going on
between people
is there to make money and to get a
little bit of power but
this glo i don't i can't
can't put a global network together man
it's just it's just not
to me i can't see it working
you mentioned that you know the memes
and stuff too that came out there was a
meme that my friends are sharing
and uh listen
and people are gonna laugh at me right
now i love
snopes snopes have
saved my ass yeah um
there was a meme that came out um
recently of a picture of like
an egyptian sticking this
long stick up someone's nose
and it was in it was from uh egypt it
was like cave art
looking art and then in the in the
comment while in the in the meme it says
this was a torture device
for slaves that misbehaved and then and
then
they would stick this tube up up their
nose
and it would bust the blood brain
barrier between the brain
and the nose so that you would be more
prone to disease
that you would get sick and that you
would eventually die so if
slaves who got out of line and misbehave
they want to keep you sick and docile
so you won't have strength to fight
against your government you won't have
strength to escape
i told my wife and my wife's like you
want your slaves strong
like you want them to be hard workers
you want them to be able to lift heavy
stuff
you don't want to like you know what i'm
saying so that's like logically it
didn't make sense i had to google it had
to go to snopes
and it says and if you look clo and it
looks like he's sticking up the nose
it was an eye procedure it was it was an
eye procedure
procedure it wasn't even going up the
nose it was going into the
eye and it was an i it was an ancient
egyptian eye proceed
procedure that would fix cataracts or
something and it was like oh my god
somebody screenshotted that
mate made up a weird narrative and now
everyone is sharing it yeah
another friend of mine good friend of
mine
used to call me out when i was a
conspiracy theorist back in 2008 9
10. you're just living in fear man you
just
i said no the government ma'am george
bush is this they used to call me out
used to make fun of me and
the devil stole your piece because i was
all in it he's sending me videos now
of of a dude that sounds like um
um bill gates given this
seminar on how we'll be able to do brain
scans
and tell who the people are who
uh like won't
take the chip or who are or no no who
are religious
because the religious people are the
ones who aren't gonna uh take the
vaccine or the chip for the most part
you know what i'm saying like the the
rfid if that comes out
and or even the vaccine the religious
people aren't doing it so there's a scan
that can tell how religious you are
and and you lack something so you're not
so you're not going to
so they're going to have to eliminate
those people because they're they're not
going to
and it's in their genes it's in their
children and all of that
he sent me this video and i'm watching i
was like wow
this is legit it's like a press
conference and
and uh bill gates is like talking about
this
and then i i just happened to go to
snopes
and it showed me the damn movie that it
came from
yeah i was just gonna say it was a movie
clip feels like it showed me the damn
movie i'm like man you know
get out of here with all this i'm
through with it dude i'm through with it
i'm through with it listen
we gotta uh we have somebody here on
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oh my oh no it's my niece's name okay
that's my knee um
i've been a fan of yours for a long time
man who me
me truly i guess since the
um topic is conspiracies
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i love your music man hey i love you man
um i'm i'm more i consider myself more
of a conspiracy realist
than as theorists because i've seen
enough to know that 911 was an inside
job
i mean you got you got to think like the
ultimate goal is it's not going to
happen in one phase
they'll do it over decades or whatever
it takes to achieve their goal
but um what's his name on george h bush
talked about the new world order on live
tv in congress i think
right in a lot of things so there's
there's a lot
more truth to a lot of i wouldn't to
conspiracy
that a lot of people would like to admit
like the tuskegee experiments
where they injected black people with
syphilis right
or you can get into any number of
conspiracies
mk ultra government mind control you
know what i'm saying
i don't say just accept anything at face
value do your own research
because there is like bat poop crazy
conspiracy theories you know what i'm
saying but there
is legitimate conspiracies
especially perpetrated by people in
powerful positions
like in the fbi and doj and all of them
they want us like i know like the far
right
like people like to focus on the far
right right but what
why why just focus on the far right
there's lunatics on the far left too
you know there's lunatics on fringes
a lot of things i don't know that's just
my take
yeah i'm with you i'm with you you know
what i'm saying brent
what would you say i and brent's saying
listen this study this stuff out don't
just believe anything and if you come to
a
conclusion that that you wholeheartedly
believe i think you need to be able to
prove it and
and there's a lot of stuff brent like he
just mentioned you know george bush
talking about a new world
order is what we need you know what what
do you think about that clip
uh well sorry what was his name taylor
yeah taylor yeah hey taylor very nice to
speak to you man
um
there isn't a single thing that you just
said that i didn't believe
i used to believe it all of those things
that you were just talking about
i used to think all of those things were
actually connected
now i don't not going to say that those
things didn't happen because yes they
did happen we do know but we know
all about tuskegee we know that people
weren't
weren't given treatment and were allowed
to die because of it
we know
we know plenty of conspiracies that have
happened
but if we want to talk about what you
just brought up true seeker
george h bush no it's george h w bush
isn't it
the dad he um mentioned a new world
order and he isn't one of any and the
only person ever mentioned the new world
order
because it was a very popular term back
then now
when i was when i was really deep into
this when i was very
very very involved
i heard this excuse about it and i
completely rejected it i thought oh
they're just making this up
but the truth that what i heard and it
is actually
the truth is what new world order
that term meant to those people
what to to to the whole world basically
what it actually meant and that
did mean the the world post
the cold war when there was no longer
a communism in the world anymore and
that it was
practically the entire world was run
through capitalism
that's what they were referring to as
the new world order
because it would be a brand new order of
the world there would only be one
superpower
now but i also think what it was in the
90s
i also think there's a more sinister
agenda to it
to it to eventually implement a one
world
governance type of situation that's what
china and a lot of
different world leaders are talking
about i mean it's not a conspiracy the
great reset for example they try to say
it's a conspiracy theory but you can
look it right up
you can look look it right up on the
world economic forum where they talk
about
all this stuff i'm not trying to say
like go harass
people like hurt people i just see
the conspiracy realities that are
actually happening that you can actually
look up that you can see i mean there's
documented conspiracies all throughout
all kinds of government's histories i
mainly focus on the united states
history because that's my country
but i know like probably the united
kingdom probably has its own
conspiracies you know like about the
queen and the royal family and a lot of
stuff
yeah there's there's plenty of plenty of
theories
and like i just want to get away from
the word conspiracy to be honest because
i think a lot of it is corruption
that that's where i'd like to really
focus my
my energies really getting away from
this weird
term of conspiracy theory and actually
expose the real corruption that's been
going on with
our with my country there's there's the
corruption runs deep
just like it does in america i i do
understand i do have
a bit of a background with american
politics like i said my stepdad was
military i i grew up around the us air
force
my entire life you know uh when i was 16
17 i came back to england and i started
and i was i live here in england now
so i am very i i'm really really
interested and really involved in
american politics but
just not everything um yeah but all i'd
say man is like i just really think a
lot of it boils down to corruption
it's corrupt individuals trying to
trying to get one over in each other but
i really i honestly don't think that a
lot of these people
these people are working together for
the same thing a lot of these people
absolutely
hate each other and want to do some of
them do i think
but i disagree with you on the premise
that they're not working together
because the elite are class conscious
why they divide the peasants
right on racial lines whatever it is
political lines gender lines they're
trying to divide us on every level
to me that would say it comes for you
the politicians will try and divide it's
divide and conquer isn't it but like um
look at epstein for example i mean
that's like a textbook
conspiracy right there how did he get
assassinated in a maximum
security prison with people watching him
right because he knew so much
stuff i mean there's a possibility he
might not even be dead i cannot confirm
that though i can't say that for his
matter back he could be dead
they could have took him out or he could
be alive they could have faked his death
okay who knows
i mean look at all that what i would say
about sorry what i would say about
this about the epstein thing and what
i'm trying to get at
really through this whole message which
i'm trying to say
is you can question that you can
question whether or not
he was killed or he committed suicide or
something happened
but you have to stop there you can't
then say oh it was done
because of this and it was this person
who done it all right if you can't prove
that stuff
you shouldn't be sharing that stuff well
the fact is you can look at all the
people connected to epstein like bill
gates who's also
invested in the world health
organization who also wants depopulation
i could get in
to far into this dude like there is
actually
okay knowing there's a cabal
but knowing there is a cabal it's not
does it make you a terrorist an
extremist that's why i think
you're you have a false premise no no no
i've said from the get-go
man i don't think i don't think
you are dangerous i think these ideas
are dangerous
i think when they're in the wrong hands
they're very dangerous
when they're in that when they were in
the hands of us maybe maybe it's a
little bit of fun
but i think you could be right it could
be dangerous
like to somebody who's mentally ill
could
try to go take out innocent people over
something like this but i don't think
most people are like that
you know i agree
most people aren't but the the movement
is
getting bigger and bigger and it keeps
getting bigger
yeah every time there is a world event
every time there's a
big trauma that we all go through
these conspiracies
get a brand new following they get a lot
bigger
every time and i know like the the usual
conspiracy theorists kind of
retort to that is because well
people are more awake than after it so
there's always going to be something
that
that people will say but we study we
look at the studies of history about
psychology
there are booms in society every time
something like this happens
but i i i really appreciate your your
lining of questioning
it's great thank you i know i know there
like there's conspiracies though that i
know to me our bs like
i know there's like i watch odd tv and i
love his content
but there's things i don't agree with
him on like flat earth flat earth
i don't agree with the fact that earth
did it for a lot of people
yeah that was that was like kind of a
nail in a coffin
i mean i think odd it's fun though
odd was the very last person i posted on
truth music directory
on the website i used to run like you
know where that is true speaker
but he was the very last person because
i was done with it
i was done with it after that well i
mean i'm not done with
looking into deeper truths and
conspiracies
and i do think there's an elitist ball
like the people who control the federal
reserve and world banks
and stuff like that i wouldn't
necessarily blame it on
an entire group of people because i
think there's other factors and other
people
involved too you know
what what would you say brent let me ask
you this brent so like
you know joe rogan i think joe rogan for
the most part now he's starting to
open up or whatever but he would say
stuff like you know it's just
evil people it's just it's just
evolution
kind of thing um what would you say to
stuff like
the uh whether it's like a a an agenda
for like the homosexual agenda
transgender agenda uh
mainstream music agenda like can these
things be easily explained
or is this or is this something like uh
um music that sells like the mainstream
like
i'm saying dumbing down obviously that
music will sell more than me talking
about opening your third eye
and those kind of things what do what do
you think about those kind of like
cultural what we're trying to and people
would say
uh a uh you know an agenda like that
like
the uh homosexual agenda or something
would be to
for depopulation they would also tie
that in with abortion
right we need to there's this you know
georgia guidestones
you know and trust me i've just been on
five airplanes
and there's so much land that that
nobody's on we was in the middle of no
we had to drive
hours and hours and hours and fly hours
to even see
another soul like you know what i'm
saying so
um that whole depopulation thing what
about all of that those kind of agendas
and stuff
yeah i mean like agenda 21 depopulation
all that kind of stuff i just don't none
of it's happened
none of it's happened it's it i just
don't see it it's not gonna happen
um the
stuff that you you mentioned like
culture
kind of things like that's such an old
conspiracy theory
that like that they're the the
degenerates they're trying to
they like influence all of music and
and arts and culture and and and
turn them all over to the other side or
like there's different spins on it
because you can go they want to turn
them to lefties or they want to turn
them to communists
or there's the christian version they
want to turn them into satanists they
want to turn they want to turn them away
from god
it's always the same sort of thing
i i i kind of it surprises me how many
of the
the bad conspiracy theory kind of stuff
like that
attacks people the people like
us you me your brother your sister your
mother your father your friends
your co-workers those are the people
that
we're gonna attack it feels like we
should be the ones like
if we work together we got the power we
can actually take
the politicians down because we can't
actually use
our vote we can actually do prac like
practice
get involved in local politics and
actually make sure that
my street my actual street out front it
gets cleaned
like you can actually get involved
we got a we got another person coming on
this is um
miss bliss might take her a second to
get her
mic and audio on um
you're with us miss bliss how are you
anissa
it says you're you're muted and you're
you're uh mike's
oh i'm just here to listen i had a
question but it can wait
no go ahead what's your question um
well i haven't really formulated it yet
i'm gonna keep listening okay you can
just
you can just unmute yourself yeah
there's a lot going on in my head right
now you guys are
my head's spinning well let me ask you a
question what is your your relationship
with um conspiracy theories and
um have they been has it been positive
has it been
uh intriguing has it been
scary uh have you had to quit thinking
about or watching certain
uh news channels or youtubers
and stuff yeah well i'm not i'm not a
fast right now
um you know my knee-jerk reaction was to
automatically just
send this to facebook um but the lord
has me on a fast right now and i'm he
just has some stuff to show me this
this week and uh yeah i haven't checked
out your channel in a while so
um i am still doing youtube but i'm not
doing my videos right now
um and just with everything going on in
our family life
and different polarization going on i
think i started talking about it in the
chat but
just whether you're a believer in a
pandemic or a pandemic or whatever
the case may be i'm not saying i know or
i have any idea what's going on these
days of all the craziness
but um there's just certain things that
the lord is speaking to me
uh pretty strongly about like for me he
just
didn't want me to take the vaccine you
know and i'm like the only one i know
who's you know not on it or whatever
um there's also me i refuse to take you
who me
um taylor could i can i jump in can i
say something quickly yeah yeah jump in
no i i totally i totally get where
you're coming from look but i don't
think it's that
god is bigger than than bill gates so
yeah
yeah yeah exactly if god's if god's
putting it on your heart
if god's putting on your heart that you
shouldn't take it then maybe there's a
reason that you shouldn't take it
there are there are risks involved in
taking any type of medication
yeah i can't deny that like that we all
we are
not afraid of it he didn't give me that
but if
if you're getting that message yeah i'd
listen to it whatever god tells me to do
i kind of get i could do go along with
it too
you know if you put it on my heart i
should do this yeah then i'm going to
try my hardest to do that if i don't
then
i don't but i i ain't got a problem with
that thank you bro
yeah that kind of gets into those things
where and probably we can definitely tie
that into conspiracy theories but it for
me it comes from the religious
understanding of
what god has put on my heart i've got to
put on your heart
you know of usually a uh you know it's
like a personal a personal
feeling a personal thing that i need to
do and i've seen it come along in the
years of
i need to quit listening to music like a
certain type of music
god wants god said don't listen to
christian rap because it's
of the flesh god says don't eat pork
anymore because the
jews don't eat pork you know in these
different truths that you uncover and
you really resonate with them
so much so that you say god told you um
and then we start forcing that on other
people
yeah and and uh and maybe even to tie
that in with the conspiracies it's like
you you're
you're you're tying um you're connecting
dots that you see that may not even
really be
there how many of us are are uh you know
guilty of that
and a lot of a lot of conspiracy
theories are like that
um connecting dots that aren't there and
we begin to see it
in in the real world in our reality you
know
only us we're the only ones that see it
yeah that's super it's gonna yeah i was
gonna say no
i was just trying to say something um
i was gonna say um if anything god has
shown me
like because i was in a really bad bad
place in 2020
like the news and i thought everybody
was gonna die and
like i thought i was gonna die honestly
because i did get sick
and a lot of stuff i think god saved my
life honestly
and i'm thankful to god every day for
that if anything god's showing me to
break free from
fear-based reality so you can focus on
conspiracies get really paranoid
because i've been watching conspiracies
for real and then the 2020 thing happens
that just like makes it worse
you know yeah and god the thing about it
is like god forbid let's just say that
they're
all real just everyone that you've ever
read or watched to say that they're all
real again what are you going to do
about it
and in our minds we're going to
overthrow the government and our minds
we're going to
you know show everybody that uh
michelle obama's a man well you're gonna
run up on stage
you know it's gonna change that's not
gonna happen yeah no i don't even
care exactly you're not gonna do
anything
and what it's doing it's for me and
people
think is this is you're putting your
head in the sand when i talk about god
in my podcast like i felt strong
before all of this happened before all
this happened
i went back and i have videos and i said
hey guys
and i pretty much did a snippet
or an episode of this what we're talking
about now hey
conspiracy theories are dangerous
be careful and i had no idea what was
coming but i knew that
hey be careful i have to look at what it
did to me what it's done to my friends
who are still
i got friends who are scared to death to
pay taxes
because they think that god is going to
judge them
with hellfire because their tax money
is going to fund abortions
so they're scared they're like in tears
and tax evasion and and not just that
tax
taxation is theft but that there they
are
they are funding abortions
and so god is going to punish them like
it gets it gets real deep it gets real
weird right
um yeah so early on
i was like i did a video stay away from
it it's dangerous
and the scripture says if there's
anything
pure if there's anything noble if there
be anything
of virtuous think about
these things and let's say that
even if all conspiracy theories are true
none of them are virtuous none of them
are positive
none of them will you know it actually
goes against what the scripture
says to to think about to fill your mind
with
and and to dwell upon and to meditate it
says to meditate upon my precepts
meditate upon my word
it's gonna help you it's gonna it's
gonna add to your life
it's gonna give you peace and listen the
world's going to hell
this place is a disaster but in the
midst of that
you can walk in peace you can walk in
wholeness you can walk in peace of mind
people are free
i say that because people are freaking
out it's not i'm not prophesying the
world going to hell
peop people are freaking out right now
how can you in the midst of this place
of people freaking out
maintain a perfect peace because you
should be freaking
out man nah i'm good bro
i i feel like um every day's a blessing
to me i should have been dead a long
time ago
every every breath of air is a i breathe
there's a blessing
thank you you change the way that you
look at things and then the things that
you look at
will change that's my philosophy it's
helped me
i was scared dude i wouldn't speak on it
i wouldn't watch the documentaries have
you seen it
i know they're out there i watched them
leading up to this me and brent and i'm
sure you too taylor have watched them in
2008
2006 like we know how scary they are
they're scary as hell they're like fear
selves there's a reason we like to go
watch horror movies and
go on roller coaster rides that scare
you oh my god
i survived they love this right we love
the thrill we want to feel alive man
it's part of the conspiracy stuff for
sure
go ahead one thing i know one thing i
believe in the divine protection of god
so anything the elite have planned i
think god
is protecting us against them and i know
what you're saying is true because
getting in the bible and like focusing
on god help me get out of that fear
that i was feeling and it like frayed me
yeah
i guess in a way yeah lord simple as the
lord is my shepherd i shall not want he
makes me lie down in green pastures
i i just love Psalm 23 and speaking it
over my life
and my family because this stuff can get
your head i
too uh was a conspiracy nut and back in
the day i used to
even um protest and since 9 11
i got really gung-ho crazy into it
um and the lord showed me i think it was
a about five years later into it
um slowly i started waking up to
to realizing i was getting into the i
don't want to use the word
anarchy because that's that that word
has been misused so
frequently but um because actually
anarchy is a good thing
there's a but it's a whole thing but
anyway what i was starting to go
next structure drive closer to was was
more of the um
anger based though side of so yes i
would say anarchy but
angry anarchy instead of peaceful
anarchy
where like what we're seeing now we are
above all of that
all this is under our feet because we're
cold buried
co-crucified with jesus so we
essentially have
jesus in our bellies living waters
flowing from us
constantly like that joy that bubbles up
that's not from us
that's nothing i did i didn't get like
even i would say even the example of
like say you're a drinker or smoker you
would understand the word hi
i get high on god by walking outside
like you don't have to do anything
and to me that was just so liberating
recently he's showing me it again
because i started getting scared for
people that do
take the vacs um because i watched a lot
of conspiracy
stuff about it you know and i
started letting myself believe it but as
soon as i started letting myself believe
it
and whether or not it's true or not i
don't think that's the point i'm trying
to make
jesus would always give me this piece of
like
yeah but don't you remember i'm above
all this like whatever they
if it is a conspiracy if this if they're
sticking toxic
stuff in there well you know what jesus
is more powerful than the enemy no doubt
right yeah
and also too with with us speaking of
about that
a lot of people have already taken it
and guess what
i don't know they can't they can't
untake it yeah
so anything that you do from here on out
to that person not
not to the person who hasn't taken it
but for the person who already
has taken it that's fear guilt shame and
condemnation
they can't untake it right so for you to
say
for you to say you're gonna die if you
take it and these
people have already taken it you're
putting guilt shame and condemnation on
those people for you to keep
it's like the whole doctrine the fear of
hell oh you're going to burn it up
it's the same darn thing we're doing it
all over deceptions
i try i try not to be little to make fun
of or poke
or or even talk about stuff that people
can't change
and that's why the government thing and
maybe i'm docile for that maybe my head
is in the sand
i don't think that i can god can change
it god yeah
all things are possible you know what
i'm saying but as far as me
and i'm going to do a podcast and tell
you all about the wilds of the
other you know but
but they think if you tell enough people
then the more people that know the more
people that wake up they can change
right
yeah i know there's it's a it's a iffy
i'm not sure what to do with it i just
let holy spirit
you know discern i don't at one point i
was thinking of like doing a channel and
exp letting people know about all this
stuff because i was but then i'm like no
way
yeah you know because then there's a lot
a lot of lies it's all mixed together
well even if there is truths in it and
and i know you and i know you're calling
and you're anointing yeah
like even if there is truths plural
there's a lot of truths in it there are
there's a lot of truths a lot of disinfo
a lot of a lot of opinion there's truths
plural
but you you're anointed to speak the
truth
and the truth is that of the kingdom of
heaven
that is now that is peace that is love
that is joy that is righteousness
that you that you speak on the truth and
and nothing
nothing can uh can take that away or
change
that truth and so you're forever blessed
on that uh brett's only got a few
minutes left with this
um man brent what do you want do you
want to talk about anything do you want
to
uh warn again uh what even this
conversation that we're having
you know people would say the same thing
about us even with religion how we're
finding this peace and religion a piece
of something that is imaginary
you can't prove it why would you even
like eve religion is a myth that you
believe and it's a conspiracy right
so the same kind of of doubt that
someone would have towards
a conspiracy theory that can't be proven
a religion that
hey we weren't there i wasn't there when
they hung hung him on the cross i wasn't
there when noah built the art you know
these kind of things what would you say
just to that whole conversation
when it comes to religion as well what i
would say is there's a difference
between
this this conspiracy that i've been
talking about
is mainly a political thing
and i think politics and religions to
say separate
part of religion should be your own
personal
journey my my religion is
should not be influencing anyone else
only through my acts
if i do good things what i really want
to do is i i you know
i followed jesus i follow yeshua i
i want to i'm gonna what i'm gonna be
working on is
the politics of jesus
what he would be doing today in the
world to change it
to change the world today what it is you
know that i want to really bring it back
to those red words in the bible
take every single other thing out i just
want
the words of jesus what about the old
testament
all of it this is not what
i'm talking about the politics
of jesus that's what i want to get into
and the words of jesus
are the words that are in red so we're
going to so that's that's
something i'm going to get into in my
channel like
tell me about your channel again and are
you a writer
it sounds like you're going to write
something am i right or not
am i totally off no i'll be doing videos
i'll be doing videos
okay um you do you're doing gaming right
now a little bit huh brent yeah yeah
yeah you know a bit of a hobby just
messing around
doing a bit of gaming i'm going to do
some gaming during the week and then i'm
going to
i want to get to the point where i'm
doing some like longer streams on the
weekend
bringing people in having chats about
this kind of stuff
let me i got something from you a long
time ago and i don't
know if this was was real or even if i
read it wrong but it was an old picture
when it when i got into ufology and it
was really an angel thing for me it was
the bible it was a lot of
just stars and angels that travel back
and forth in the sky and i would be
visited and i have
crazy experiences right and uh and i
seen a picture of you
and it looked like you were with a group
or something but everybody
was posing and you were like you were
looking up in the picture
and for some reason when i seen that i
was like oh man he knows what's up man
he's
he's one of us can you was that
do you even do you know what i'm talking
about bruh hold on
i think i know what you're talking about
there was a picture it's almost like a
band or
or something and and you were just like
looking off in the sky
and i was like and i and i think i might
have had done that in some pictures
after the fact or something
i was like yeah man brent brent knows
what's up dude he knows about the elo
and and you you followed you and stuff i
have a question
i've i've had kind of this theory since
i was like a teenager because i was
really interested in it
i have a theory that the elohim are like
ancient space-faring human beings
i'm open to that possibility i thought
it was an interesting concept because i
remember watching people talk about the
elohim
but it's like has multiple meanings like
it's plural
it could be like um not just humans too
i guess
i don't know i think it's pretty
interesting yeah that is an interesting
uh take and i've been thinking about
that a little bit lately too
but do you are you looking for the
picture friend are you on my face
no he's gone he's gone bro sorry i don't
get it but yeah what about that
i'm starting to rock and i and i'm like
staring up looking at it yeah yeah yeah
i'm dressed all in white
yeah got my crucifix out yeah yeah
was that did that have to do with was
looking for the angels or ufos or
anything
yeah like i'm not i'm not looking
for the things of this world material i
was looking up you know
nice i knew it was because i was like
yeah
i identified there yeah man we came from
the same sort of very you know we both
like i said we were friends on myspace
yeah
so sharing each other's music and all
that back then we we have definitely had
a similar kind of message we both kind
of uh
you know we were both christians but
both also
seeming like we had felt like we
we weren't christians but from the
community maybe because some of the
things that we might
we used to get into like i know you had
a you know struggle with listening to
the type of music that you listened to
or people would would
i know like some fans would be like oh
you shouldn't be doing like the heavy
metal
oh yeah silly silly stuff long times ago
like you're burning your cds your
library and stuff i remember all these
different things and i'm like
man the communities are so
purity testing all the time yeah well
and
i because i'm i'm not a literal
bible follower like you know this from
many years ago i don't
follow the bible literal words
i like like there wasn't a talking snake
like it was the nakash it was a shining
uh a shining being turned up you know it
was an angel it was a sarah as a
seraphim
yeah it could have been a demon it was
because the cache
look up on the channel the legends of
history it has a lot of
interesting videos on like angels and
biblical stories and stuff if you're
interested in that i think you might
find it interesting if you're
into like spirituality and religion have
you ever talked to them have you looked
into any have you seen any of michael
heiser
i've never heard of that guy michael i
love michael has a fantastic researcher
he is he will break down every single
word for you
and like he's the one who called out
zechariah sitchin and basically saying
dude
dude's lying sitchin is wrong.com yeah
it was his break first first yo i would
not listen to heiser i was like no
you can't you can't be right you're just
you're just trying to attack him
but i got really into uh
really into like reading about jesus he
i was reading every single thing i read
the quran because of him i read
absolutely anything that had
anything to mention him i was so
guided into that you know and and it led
me to
to learn about etymology and and the
roots of words and where they come from
and translations and i'm so
deep into that and i i gotta recommend
you check out heiser he'll he will
oh so much stuff yeah his big thing is
the divine counsel of the elohim which
here we are talking about
the the the elohim or the elo um for me
i i mean obviously the truth is
somewhere in the middle and i like to uh
i like to i like to uh i think the truth
is somewhere in the middle of heiser and
and sitchin somewhere obviously
there has to be some some truth to it
right even a broken caucus wrong it's
right twice a day
um but who they are slave race that kind
of thing i don't really
go with that anunnaki i actually say one
of my songs i follow being as high above
the anunnaki and when i mention that i
mentioned the elo
but yeah well brent dude let people know
where to go to your channel dude and to
uh to check out your work and your music
if you still
do you even still promote your music do
you have a different relationship
um with with your old stuff like because
i remember when i was going through it
listen i was like
none of my stuff about aliens and ufos
and kundalini like
don't listen to it it's demonic stay
away from it like i was ashamed of it
when i was going back and forth you know
nah to me
go and listen to my old stuff i'm happy
there's a learning curve
it was a learning curve i know like you
can be wrong sometimes you know
it's just admit it just carry on
but since i've fell out of the truth
movement and
kind of got away from the conspiracy
theories man i didn't have nothing else
to write about
i couldn't write i haven't i haven't
written i haven't written a bar for
years i just can't i can't
it wasn't until 13 days ago that i came
public and started talking about this
because i just was so scared i was so
scared of like
this massive decision that you're losing
friends dude
like people that so in it just like you
you know exactly
i call it scenes and so like uh somebody
broke this down i need to get into it i
don't know much about it but marcus
aurelius has like of some philosophy
stuff
and he talked about the diff the three
different levels of friends that you
have
and in the in the first level of friends
that you have is
is a friend because you got you guys
share a common interest
and they become your friends or your
acquaintances because we both love the
lost children of babylon
you know we both uh we both go to church
man we both go to church at calvary
chapel man we love the lord
okay well what happens when you stop
listening to the lost children of
babylon
what happens when not only do you stop
going to calvary chapel
but you're not a christian anymore
guess what happens to those friends i
got friends who were into the drug scene
they were uh taking ecstasy every friday
and saturday night
all kinds of friends loving friends i
love you bro
they would call each other even
throughout the week and playing parties
i used to be in a christian medal scene
and we'd do metal shows
throughout the week even on the weekends
we and i'd see those same kids at those
metal shows
and we'd hang out we talk about bands we
go get pizza afterwards
maybe we'd show up and play video games
at somebody's house but the moment you
stop
going to those shows we even called it a
scene
you got the the metal scene the drug
scene the church
scene the gay scene you go to the gay
bars hey i'm not gay anymore oh well
you're not not friends with us anymore
the moment that you
those aren't your real friends you guys
just share
a common interest so
uh the moment you change that you
deviate those people are gone
it's sad it hurts so bad uh because you
you may even have more invested
because you thought they were legit
friends these friends were friends of of
because they benefit off of you because
you fulfilled a need within them marcus
aurelius goes into
deeper detail about that but something
interesting
you know your truther as long as you're
talking about 911 and exposing the
illuminati
oh brent don't even believe in
illuminati no more man
he's he's they're calling you
brainwashed you are
an agent you know you all kind of thing
and this is how it happens man
i was i was gonna bring that up i was
gonna say like if you don't if you don't
think
if you think me saying it's like being
in a cult
is anything is that just a hyperbolic
statement please add me on facebook
and please go through my newsfeed for
the past 13 days
because some of the people i'm reading
them it's just
and and and i saw i'm sure that a lot of
those people came out of the woodwork
that you haven't talked to in a long
time
because anytime you deviate i haven't
been on there for for years
for very literal years 20 2017
really it's the last time that i know i
hadn't seen you on political
or conspiratorial everything from that
point
has been cute cats cute dogs
and beets that's literally all i posted
for years now
i think you're just trying to get away
from like negativity like negative
thoughts because
like you said a lot of conspiracy
theories are just negative
right yeah like bad things not good
things
yeah i'm just i'm just i'm just uh
concerned with the
with the dangerous ones with ones that
can cause harm in the world i wanna
anything but
anything can be dangerous anything
not everything can like at the end of
the day jesus
wants us to bring love into the world
but there's still those people who would
say jesus wants us to
to sell our cloak and buy a sword and
fight the new world order
you know that's there too right yeah
so you have the same do you mean do you
because i don't feel like you're even
saying that you're not a conspiracy
theorist
in the terms that there's so many it's
just like anarchists there's so many
different uh
variables for different names like what
is a conspiracy theorist like that is my
question
what how would you define a conspiracy
theorist
and what made you decide that you're not
one anymore
like i'm just curious is that like
well yeah i've kind of mentioned a few
times
i really am taught i'm really talking
about the illuminati
new world order deep state conspiracy
theory
of a global cabal that's the main thing
that i'm talking about that i
am trying to say it's not it's not
connected but there is
okay but no let him talk a few things i
want to hear what he said i
completely i completely agree i used to
believe the same i honestly used to
believe the same i'm not saying
you're wrong i'm saying i was wrong
i mean i can respect people's i can
respect people's different opinions even
if i disagree i'm not going to put you
down or say you're
a bad person or anything you know yeah
yeah
we could agree to disagree you know
absolutely
absolutely so you don't believe in
any like they're that you believe in
conspiracies
but not all of them yeah i don't believe
in the grand
the grand conspiracy illuminati yeah
that whole thing
completely once i still and this exact
same person
just without the tinfoil hat yeah right
just without the kookiness well that's
what messed you up you took the tinfoil
hat off and now you're being
hit with these radioactive waves you
just have to take i had to take it off i
had the jab didn't i
was kind of like 5g was making me go
crazy have you heard that not with the
they're not now this isn't to throw
shade or to make fun
but have you heard you know who carrie
cassidy is right
yeah i believe she had a project camelot
project camelot yeah and so i believe
that she uh
i believe she had a stroke and uh but
but
in her most of her faces is drooping and
stuff
uh she claimed she was hit with an
energy weapon because she was
releasing too much truth that the
government shot her with the laser
um and did that to her that sounds like
arrogance i mean i'm not trying to be
rude but i would think if the lord
told her that he probably wouldn't want
her to say that
to anyone if that is true like benefit
of the doubt like if that's true
well like what is where's the fruit
what's that gonna
you know what i mean like i'm not saying
it's not true
but yeah and i would just say
it's likely dangerous it's most likely
a stroke yeah that's all i'd say like
you can see what you want yeah like i
can't prove it i'm not the doctor
what do you think about them i'm pretty
you know i'm gonna say okay yeah that
that looks like a stroke
i i do have to go soon guys all right
brother brent man
thanks for coming on and uh anytime you
want to come on here bro
let me know let's collab let's do
whatever man um
i know you may not i know i know you may
not have any bars
or anything about conspiracy research
and all that but you do have a lot of
spiritual truth and a lot of life
experience that you have to bring to the
table man put put some of that stuff
to po poetry man be a psalmist get it
out there your music's amazing dude and
you you've waken up a lot of people
and um you have a voice you still have a
voice
yeah i tell you what there's a scripture
that that really helped me and this was
i guess sin or or really like coming to
the end of who i am but there's a
scripture in jeremiah that says that
um if you will will repent and
and and this is good in in utter worthy
and not worthless words i will use you
for my mouthpiece
utter worthy not worthless i mean this
is the whole
conversation we're having other worthy
words
what's more worthy than the letters in
red kudos to what you're doing bro thank
you so much for coming on and hanging
out man we'll have to do it again
yeah man uh just quickly uh youtube.com
brentlytv and twitter
you know at brentlytv so i've changed
all my things to that
add me on facebook if you want to chat
whatever i'm cool
but yeah we definitely do this again
thanks for coming on brother
love you yes shalom shalom much love
many blessings bye
blessings all right see that's the
beautiful thing is where
what i am seeing what i call christ or
or
god in is is the fact that people can
have different
difference of opinions uh whether there
be spiritual whether they be
religious or um whatever
sports like and you could still come
together
and have a conversation and uh but but
not everybody can because
even people who are really engulfed in
the conspiracy movement
he's done bren is now an enemy
brent's an enemy to these people now
that's terrible
though it is terrible i don't know if i
call it a movement though
because there's so many different facets
well i mean it would be the same way
with christianity though you know what
i'm saying the moment you
the moment you say you know what i
believe god is in everything
i don't think god is just in our our
denomination
or our religion then now you're an enemy
to those people
or the fact that that you were in a.a
alcoholics anonymous and you guys
had a tight-knit community and then you
said you know what i
i'm really okay with having a drink on
the weekend
like you know me and my wife cook out
and have steak and we
we drink wine and we enjoy each other we
laugh
and and i'm okay it doesn't rule me but
now
you're an enemy at least on friday
nights
when you cook steak and have wine you're
an enemy
right because and so that's what we need
to let go of these isms and schisms is
what bob marley called them
tool has a song about schisms it's in
the bible
the word schism is when you have a a um
um
uh a distinction and and really church
doctrine or
or something that uh separates us oh now
we can't be friends because you believe
that jesus was
born on saturday and i believe he was
born on sunday whatever you just
they don't stop and so i know there's
like great
i know there's like um you got me into
gnosticism and i didn't even realize it
at first
and i know there's a lot of christians
that would disagree with gnosticism
personally i know god exists that's why
i consider myself a mastic now do i know
everything or every aspect no
and i think one of the core of jesus
teachings
is that we're all human beings and
trying not to be too judgmental on
people because they're in like the same
position as you
if you know that's my take from it
that's what you got to do
show people you see you know but that
that's like
that's uh enlightenment you know to
treat people that how you want to be
treated or how you would like to be
treated
but some people hate themselves and some
people treat themselves badly and
they'll
they'll treat you badly as well they'll
talk
talk bad about you they will slander
your name because they don't even have a
good
they do it to themselves you know yeah
true uh hey
um what i was thinking just real quick
about gnosticism
um i i've been reading a little bit into
john crowder's stuff and um
i get i guess it's more of a question a
question between narcissism and dualism
i know there's a difference
but i feel like there's a connection
because
now i don't know you know exactly where
i'm going with this but
as an awesome i think my point is like
let me back up
we need to have a solid understanding
about certain words because
i feel like that's like what was it the
little prince who said this this isn't
biblical but
um it's only with the heart that one can
see rightly what is essential is
invisible to the eye right that's a
quote from the little prince i feel like
that's a big problem with
all christianity all christians and all
not just with
religion but with anything else so
gnosticism to me doesn't just mean
oh i know god exists because yeah i
would i would call i would have to call
myself agnostic
but to me i've always thought that and i
could be wrong so correct me from wrong
agnosticism from what i remember is um
not being tied down to um
firm believe of of karma like what is
right right and wrong
if i believed dualism then i wouldn't
believe jesus
because jesus already you know crucified
dualism on the cross per se you know i i
don't know if i'm articulating it right
what i'm trying to say but but
just that not to be agnostic is just um
yeah i don't like the word i guess i
just don't like the word because it
confuses people
and it could lead them to a wrong person
and agnostic
yeah yeah so help me out here
the word the word gnostic simply because
we you know we're like
definition people i'm a definition
person i love
the true meaning of words and and and
taking them back
so the true essence of what that word
means to be a gnostic
the definition simply means relating to
knowledge especially
esoteric and mystical knowledge guess
what i
am in love with esoteric and mystical
knowledge
jesus is in love with esoteric
that's not a bad thing it is only it is
like a picture in our minds about it
being about it
it's because once you get in
once you get into gnosticism
now so the word gnostic is a beautiful
term we
we would call ourselves gnostics but
getting into gnosticism
there's a lot of things that you have to
adhere to you'd have to agree with
the gnostic gospels for one you'd have
to take those as truth or as literal
and many and i don't i've got articles
written why i don't
believe the gnostic gospels even though
there's some beautiful things
in there i don't know i don't agree with
it all uh i don't think that
thomas wrote the book of thomas you know
i don't think mary magdalene wrote the
book of mary
you know what i'm saying so i agree i
believe do you believe some of it like
some of that
no i don't i believe that the majority
of what we know as gnosticism
is created to disprove and
undo christianity so much of it
is an enemy to the purity of our faith
our simple faith i'll say that um
and and it gets into weird a lot of
weird stuff
you you mentioned uh dualism the dualism
being that
uh the god of the old testament's a
different god than the god of the new
testament and that's a gnostic
tradition i don't agree that um
god is the devil because like some
gnostics believe that god is the devil
or at least the one that created this
physical reality i don't agree with that
because i don't think god is evil i
think i could use evil for his own
purposes yeah
my view and i try to teach it in my
books and my stuff is that
this you one god god is good god is all
he is
in everything of everything but there's
an order within that just say if you
have the
you know a sphere or the earth or
whatever or flat earth where
but there's an order there's there's
there's seasons there's signs
there's certa there's cycles um
and there's there's good and there's
bats pushing there's pool there's
positive and negative there's polarities
in everything
and and just because it's a polarity
doesn't mean it's evil
right just because when you fall down
you scrape your knee listen it hurts
it's not bad you learn how to walk up
rightly
you know just because when you touch
your hand to a fire fire is not bad
but when you touch that fire it hurts it
burns
man fire is demonic we're going to start
a sect
that that it extinguishes all fire the
sun is made of fire the sun
you get into weird stuff but
understanding
everything has an order a perfect order
that's the sovereignty of god
um and so and it's not and it is
straight out of dualism
god is one that's right hero israel
the lord is one so so
even even the dualism goes deeper for a
religious person because we would say
god is here
and he is not there god is not in that
no somewhere in it somewhere
between the silver linings you'll be
able to see
beauty you will be able to see even in
the darkness
you'll be able to see what we call god
and the sovereign creator of all things
that all things work
together for the good of those who love
him so anyway that's uh
you know just my my relationship with it
gnosis
gnosis even is is just it's dealing with
the mind it's knowledge through
experience
gnosis to to to study to have life
experience and then to learn listen
it's beautiful being agnostic is
beautiful but gnosticism gets a lot of
really weird stuff
hermaphrodites the original person was a
hermaphrodite and had both genitalias
like that's a gnostic tradition there's
so much
weird stuff that to say yes i'm agnostic
you're like yeah
but we even feel that way about
christians i was gonna say for me it's
like the same with christianity though
yeah me too and when i tell people i'm a
christian just because i believe in the
death
burial and resurrection of jesus christ
and um
and and maybe that's the only thing that
makes me a christian but uh
but i definitely uh i'm a devotee and a
follower
of the lord jesus christ and what he did
and who he was
and what he accomplished for for
humanity i think um mainly um
gnosticism is the rejection of the
orthodox teachings that they've tried
to like enforce upon us through
thousands of years centuries you know
what i'm saying
where like some of it could be lies that
they put in there themselves and they
try to take out the truth
that's what exactly what satanism is
satanism is just
a if you copied christianity and you
just made the opposite
yeah you know i want something original
i don't want something you made just to
counteract yeah
this stuff if you look at like religion
the original gnostics i think
they were a lot like orthodox christians
they
they just had some other ideals like
reincarnation that's
completely rejected within the orthodox
church and some other
beliefs but there's so many different
gnostic groups it's not like
one cohesive thing that you could say
it's just this
just like christianity yeah just like
christianity yeah
yeah no there's definitely some beauty
in in gnosticism for sure you may have
to search to find it there's some beauty
in there
in those books but you have to know with
everything
take everything with a grain of salt
hold on to the
hold on to the to to the beautiful stuff
the stuff that makes you
think not the stuff that confuses you
it's okay to be confused because that's
going to make you dig
deeper for the answers but but um
well i learned a lot from your book i
love it i'm still
into it like well if you if you read at
the beginning
that you know the intro to that book is
a response to gnosticism
that listen there's there's differences
so yeah i said i have um
i'm just going to say one more thing i
have some level of knowledge but i'm not
like 100 knowledgeable about everything
i think god's showing me some things but
i can't say i know everything
yeah right yeah me too just you just
have to take you just have to take that
that piece of the of the uh
of the beauty that he showed you and and
refine it and
get really good at it and and you know
sorry peace bro love your music man love
you bro
thanks for hanging out hanging out bro
love you too thank you it's so nice to
meet you
and i'm so glad we had this conversation
um i just feel like like i'm
i wanted to just tell you guys that i
feel really at peace
with um
i'm not remembering what i was gonna say
i'm in the garden
and i'm just feeling so much peace well
that's why you're at peace because
you're outside in the garden whenever
you guys come on and i'm like in the
house and i get
a little gloomy because of the
atmosphere
um because we deal with a lot of uh we
have a lot of family
stuff you know family and friends people
you know it's been a hard
hard year with the pandemic and people
and mental illness and
depression well that is mental and and
it just like lifts me up man like i
really like your show
i'll just like click it on and yeah not
in an obsessive way either it's like
you know used to be there where i'd
watch all this stuff all the time and i
you know the lord brought me out of that
because that's not good either
well yeah but well now you're creating
more so
you don't have to yeah now it's like i
got i'm feeling like the balance
and i'm just super grateful and i wanted
to share that with you
so but i don't know if this is live or
not yeah we're live
and we're going to go ahead we're going
to go ahead and thanks for hanging out i
hope you enjoy it and uh
all right good one bye all right my
friend
all right my friend here talk to you
soon
all right um oopsies
listen that's why we do it that's why we
do have the hard conversation hopefully
this
we said a lot of bad words on this uh
this
this uh episode that uh algorithms and
bots don't like and
whoever programmed those algorithms and
bots don't like
i mean that's again when we talk about
conspiracy theories that's a conspiracy
algorithms and bots don't like your
content so we're not going to show it to
people
you know and obviously we can keep going
with conspiracies and what is real oh
it's just that
you know there's there's people who are
really good at youtube and it's oh you
just got to make better content
it's nothing but it's not about the
algorithms you make good content youtube
shows it
well there's a certain things that they
don't show anybody that because you said
a bad word that you
you i mean there's this stuff that if
you curse in the first you know two
minutes of your of whatever you're doing
it shows it to less people or it gets
demonetized there's rules
at play um
i wouldn't call myself a conspiracy
theorist you know i i love
you know brent i believe in in a uh
one world government
that that's ruling and and that's having
meetings and a new world order for sure
they've been speaking about it what is
it how deep does it go
i think it's pretty deep and in that
regard
i'm definitely a conspiracy theorist as
far as the illuminati
now do i speak about it do i try to
expose them
not really um it's not gonna help nobody
you know i used to my goal is to try to
help people my goal is to try to help
people
maintain peace in the midst of
whatever's going on in your life and uh
and most of us are
having to deal with um a lot of you know
strange stuff
so um it's just what it's about find
your peace
i find my peace in christ i find my
peace in
in the scriptures and uh um
evil exists it existed in the scriptures
nothing spirit when
we talk about spiritual warfare spirits
don't die
people die the same spirits that were
fighting against moses
through pharaoh nebuchadnezzar
joshua joseph isaiah these people
jesus dealt with those same spirits
within the pharisees and the sadducees
it's a it's a spirit it's an essence
it's a mindset it's a persona
we'll call them demons right same kind
of
kind of theory they don't die they are
eternal essence is eternal energy is
eternal
good and bad and so we're still dealing
with that now so
to think that there was a conspiracy in
the land
back then and there were there were
ruling authorities
uh in the land in those days why would
they not be
now why would those same ruling people
you know not be here now and uh but
you definitely don't need to focus on
doom and gloom
again go back to the scriptures
whatsoever is pure
whatsoever is noble whatsoever is of
good report
think on these things and literally
weigh that with a conspiracy theory
anyone you want
think about the good stuff is it it's
not to bury your head in the sand and
act like it doesn't exist
but um if you're passionate about
something
pursue it for sure but if you're trying
to walk in peace and walk in love
um you gotta guard your thoughts you
gotta guard your mind
with that i'm gonna say peace and shalom
hope you guys enjoyed it
peace peace we'll do it again later
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